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True story. Was making great money back in the late 90s. Girlfriend's sister lived 90 minutes away in vacation town. We'd visit once and awhile. She suggested we buy our own place there. I did. She started to spend more time at vacation house. Decided to quit her job. Then pretty much moved into the vacation house. Suggested i commute 3 hours a day. I said no thanks, but she decided for her mental well being to stay full time at vacation house. Took up dressage. (Horse jumping.) I begged her to …
/r/TheRedPill23/06/17 10:13 PM
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I have done it, for years. It just was always painful.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 07:47 PM
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I have never been a morning person unless you define morning as 9 am. I've tried to get up and be productive but I eventually fall back on sleeping in. Good luck if you can do this.
/r/TheRedPill27/12/16 09:03 AM
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1) Female centric culture. 2) Fatherless families, diminished status of fathers. 3) General rejection of ancient truths regarding gender, the moral life, beauty, love, etc.
/r/TheRedPill05/10/16 06:26 AM
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"This is my final crossroad I've come to the realisation that things will probably only get harder." No. It's gets easier. As you get older you will gain in value relative to your female peers. You will also gain confidence, experience, and assets. The most important thing to remember is that you are an appreciating asset and they are depreciating. Never forget this. I was you 30 years ago.
/r/TheRedPill24/01/16 08:45 AM
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This attitude is much less prevalent outside the USA.
/r/TheRedPill03/11/15 08:46 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking. You have your whole life ahead of you. I didn't figure this out until I was in my late 30s.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 03:27 PM
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Elam is a rageoholic. He has attempted to put together a movement where is the leader but he runs into one problem- his inability to check his hair trigger temper. There is a long list of good people he has alienated. (And some bad ones.) He either loves you or hates you. No middle ground.
/r/TheRedPill27/10/15 05:50 AM
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Google eternal ingenue. She falls hard but eventually gets crazy. The more love you show the worse it gets. Keep her emotionally at arms length is best. She will bitch and moan but she really loves the drama. Supply drama and she will be yours until you tire of her. And you will.
/r/TheRedPill20/08/15 06:56 AM
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Payoff your debt. Then start putting money in the stock market. Just $400/mo. will turn into $500,000 in 30 years. Learn the power of compound interest. Google compound interest calculator.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/15 09:12 PM
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Exactly, still when i take my kid there next week I am looking forward to it.
/r/TheRedPill09/02/15 01:51 AM
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I think Elam, to a certain extent, is in this for himself. I am FB friends with him and all he does is play FB games all evening.
/r/MGTOW14/02/14 07:29 PM
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For some "leaders" it isn't about the movement and spreading the message. It is about personal aggrandizement.
/r/MGTOW11/02/14 04:42 PM
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And turned on them.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 07:35 AM
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Orwell was a liberal. He despised totalitarianism. The Left is rooted in the Marxist belief in the historical dialectic. Feminism is taking that concept to relations between the sexes. You want to keep going, GBFM.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:34 AM
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Feminism today is a female supremacist movement. I dated a girl whose mother was a member of NOW back in the 70s. She said she quit when the lesbians took over. That should clue you in to what direction they have taken and why they have no interest in gender equality issues that might help men.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:41 PM
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Two things I noticed about this post. 1) The poster connects feminism with Marxism. I wholeheartedly agree but it might bother some at AVfM who I think, incorrectly, don't believe the MRM is a right vs. left issue. 2) This Tumbler page seems to belong to Big Red aka harborliiights who asks, "is this even legal?" She must be Canadian because in the U.S. this is definitely legal. And hilarious. Alinsky Rule #5.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:36 PM
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There are some terrible things AVfM does- mainly Paul Elam*. But there are a lot of good people associated with it. *I think Elam is a rageoholic. They would be better off without him.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:31 PM
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Exactly, good advertising should give enough information to the consumer that they know what your talking about but also cause them to want to seek out more. Putting Big Red on there yelling STFU also stirs the emotion of fairness because most don't think it is fair to silence your political opposition.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:28 PM
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It's hard to take y'all seriously when you see big brother everywhere. We waited 50 years for the Venona papers to prove that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy. No need to be circumspect when exposing leftist tactics designed to change society. That's why rape doesn't mean rape anymore.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:23 PM
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Thanks for explaining that to me. I guess it also explains why this subreddit wants to take the forum off Reddit.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:19 PM
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I figured out what happened. Your comment was put up at /againstmensrights and they came over and voted you down. Feminists are creepy, sneaky, trolls.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 04:14 AM
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Well, only the upper classes can afford the cost of unsubsidized, unpooled healthcare, and only the middle and upper classes can afford insurance. So it would appear that the price for choice is classism. Bit steep for me. Gov't subsidy of health care, especially for the elderly, drives up costs. So does making HC payments through the insurance company bureaucracy. If Obama wanted single-payer, he would have talked about it. He didn't. It's not even like he fought for it and lost. It just never …
/r/MensRights29/09/13 04:03 AM
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Excuse my ignorance but what is a SRS sock puppet?
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:57 AM
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But the fact is that there is a systemic social bias against men... That social bias is the way men have been treated for millennia. But all that has changed. Mainly technological changes have made it possible for women to be free of the need for men. So they fought to get rid of the social and political structures that limited female freedom. No one has done this for men. That's the purpose of the MRM. I think we agree on this. The problem I have with the emphasis on male dispossibility or a sy…
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:56 AM
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I don't get why someone pointing out that male feminists are not the friends of MRAs gets voted down. Maybe the feminists really have taken over here.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:41 AM
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Yes, yes it does make you a mangina. Are you trying to say that vaginas are bad? Only when they are on men.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:40 AM
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Excellent point, you must be a lawyer.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:33 AM
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If you have something intelligent to say please say it. Otherwise you are just another kid with a keyboard being a punk.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:31 AM
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It works but there are trade offs. You give up choice in return for lower costs. That is not something to ignore. I just wish Obama would be honest about where he wants to go. I think they have always wanted single payer and they view Obamacare as just a stepping stone.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:29 AM
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You're right, if a job necessitates a gender then they can discriminate. But I don't think that is true in this case.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:27 AM
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It is about changing language to change the way we think. Banning some words, changing the meaning others all for the purpose of controlling what people think. And this is just more proof that feminists are leftists/totalitarians.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 03:26 AM
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Do them a favor and tell them that is illegal. Good chance they are from a part of the world where gender discrimination in hiring is allowed.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:54 PM
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Anybody else notice there are a lot of feminist trolls on this subreddit?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:45 PM
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And yet, another feminist troll.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:44 PM
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Another feminist troll.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:40 PM
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Ok, enlighten me, tell me why it is an ignorant allusion. Oh wait, you're a troll.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:39 PM
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Do why want to go down the path feminism has chosen? Do we want to play the victim even when we don't feel that we are victims or put others in that role? I don't want he MRM to be feminism for men. There are many injustices that men are experiencing but there is no overarching societal conspiracy to subjugate men like the patriarchy. If we try and sell our movement as another set of victims we will fail because most people don't see men as victims. I doubt we can ever convince even a sizable mi…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:57 AM
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I would print up a sheet of paper that said, "Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia." And tack it to that board. Also, replace Diversity with Newspeak.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:39 AM
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Do we really want equality with women? Think about it. Women don't work as hard as men in dangerous jobs. They don't put in the same hours over a lifetime. Men are compensating for this by cutting the amount of effort they put into their jobs but shouldn't the employer be able to pay a worker what they think is appropriate for their business? Legislated equality is destroying this country.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:23 AM
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I think you're right, this is the road to single payer. And you are a fool if you think this will produce better health care in the U.S.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:18 AM
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Ironic. The age group of young men who put Obama in the White House will see its rates jump more than any other group. Oh well. The people have spoken and they must be punished. ~ Ed Koch
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:14 AM
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so then you would be for a single payer system? where the government could work on the behalf of the people to drive costs down then? No I would not. Gov't drives down costs by rationing care. I am not for rationing care. so it sounds like you are arguing for a bigger government. The problem you outlined is a result of small government, not big government. It is small government that allows costs to be between insurer and hospital. If government could, like in most modern government, they can ne…
/r/MensRights26/09/13 05:15 AM
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Some of Bill Burr's podcasts make me think that he is an MRA.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 04:13 PM
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I made this point in reply to another comment but I think it bears repeating. Men should be for small, unobtrusive government because when government gets big we pay the bill. We cannot simply go our own way and ignore politics or assume that men's rights is only a narrow set of principles. HC, taxes, war, gov't spending, etc. are all men's rights issues when we are forced by the coercive power of the state to pay or give our lives to support women.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 04:11 PM
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The vast majority of health care (HC) services are non-emergency. Emergency services and large, catastrophic illness, which are the highest drivers of HC costs, are insurable so either private insurance or public insurance for the poor would cover it. The problem we have with HC is not an access problem, it is a price problem. And what is driving up prices is the fact that we use health insurance to pay for routine care. (All that does is add a level of bureaucracy to HC and separates the consum…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 04:10 PM
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This is why men cannot simple tune out the world. The feminists are picking our pockets to fund their welfare state.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 03:59 PM
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I agree with you but maybe not for the reason you have in mind. I think men gravitate towards libertarianism and we believe in moving society towards more freedom. Censorship runs counter to that idea. In my mind, I don't have any problem with what feminism accomplished, up until the 70s it was fairly reasonable. I fight for men's rights because I want men to be as free as women, so while the current wave of feminists fight for female superiority we just want to remove the vestiges of the old sy…
/r/MensRights25/09/13 03:38 PM
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I don't know why the hell you got voted down for this.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 12:04 AM
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Is Petit a woman?
/r/MensRights22/09/13 07:52 AM
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Johnny used the term Hate Speech. This is nothing more than attempting to limit language to control the way we think. Hate Speech = Newspeak.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 07:41 AM
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This post is a good example of how there are many issues facing men beyond custody, rape laws, etc. Taxes, income, economic growth are all men's issues.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 06:56 AM
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Your Ex was right. I think most men would chose the woman without scars, big arms, and man hands even with the 50k/year salary.
/r/MensRights22/09/13 06:53 AM
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You need to pick a side when it is time to vote.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 04:50 PM
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BTW, CNN is just removing comments left and right from this story.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:14 PM
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From the article: Todd Foster, Welden's defense attorney, told reporters that the stakes of going to trial were too high. "The possibility of a mandatory life sentence, no discretion to the judge, obviously is a big factor," Foster said. "Obviously it's tragic all around from every angle, and I think that's recognized." I can't blame him for not wanting to face life in prison but you would think they could have found one MRA for jury nullification. Would anyone here NOT give a man a pass on a ch…
/r/MensRights10/09/13 04:02 PM
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Brilliant post, OP. A thousand men can be denied visitation but when a celebrity speaks out on the issue people pay attention. People will ignore an issue until someone they trust speaks about it. We are just getting started as a movement but we should not be discouraged about our progress. Things can change very rapidly.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 11:36 PM
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Yup, I got that wrong. Part of the beauty is forcing them to live up to their own rules. If their rule is my body, my choice then we should quote that back to them when they say a man should pay child support for a kid he didn't want. (Assuming they weren't married.)
/r/MensRights07/09/13 05:49 AM
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That's great. We need their politicians to follow through. Honestly, I am optimistic because we are right and, as your anecdote shows, the word is getting out.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 05:44 AM
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Feminists never see female privilege.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 06:52 PM
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I understand your pain, but why do you feel that she should provide you financial support? Because if one parent is spending more time with the child the other should compensate for the expense and missed working opportunity. Most MRAs think this is fair. However, unlike the current system we think custody should be 50/50 unless both parents agree to a different arrangement. Also, child support should take into account unemployment/lost work. Your screw all child support position has no support …
/r/MensRights06/09/13 06:00 PM
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I understand your position but it isn't realistic. I am a MRA, I fight for men's rights. But I also believe kids need to be taken care of. I think what is getting in the way of this discussion is that you are arguing from a position of what is moral and we are arguing from a position of what is politically tenable. Our position is that custody should be 50/50 so neither side pays child support unless they decide to give the other more time with the child. Then the side with less time should pay …
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:54 PM
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Both parents are obligated to support the child. The standard should be 50/50 shared custody so neither pays but when one abandons the kid the other shouldn't suffer. We don't protest child support because we don't think kids need support. We protest the 85% of the time women get custody, unreasonable amounts ordered by courts, and failure to take changes in job circumstances.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 08:29 AM
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It was cooked meat that mattered.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 08:21 AM
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I got in trouble suggesting revealing private information before on this forum so I don't want to push it. Let me just say your honor is much greater than hers because i am quite sure she would not hesitate a second to destroy your credibility is it advanced her cause.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 07:28 AM
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Conservatism = rigid gender roles = male responsibility/burden As a conservative/libertarian, I must admit you are right about many white knighting old timers who have been married for 30+ years and have very little knowledge about family courts and other concerns of MRAs. The thing is these people can be reached. They are starting to come around to the MRM point of view because men are the backbone of the conservative movement and men getting screwed over in divorce is pretty common. Think of i…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:59 AM
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She entirely disregarded every study I linked(I doubt she read them) by saying they were conservative. "Data, analysis, conclusions etc. can all be either liberal or conservative and I choose the liberal side."(paraphrasing). Please tell me that you have this on email! If you do, this is pure gold. Consider sending it to Christina Hoff Sommers, Warren Farrell, or some other important MRM supporter.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:26 AM
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Wow that was stupid.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:04 AM
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Get a bag of oranges.
/r/MensRights23/08/13 05:25 AM
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I married a Russian woman and while I did not get many comments to my face there were a few comments relayed back to me. The vast majority of men were supportive. The women tried concern trolling me. "You can't let her go out by herself." "You shouldn't trust her." One woman at her work said that we would never last because I was too old for her and that is why she left her husband. (I am 16 years older than her.) My wife is beautiful, but she has a really great personality. She makes friends ve…
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:17 AM
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No, you have a woman who isn't a bitch fetish.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 05:09 AM
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MintClassic, is this your comment: "White, male, hetero privilege is a thing?"
/r/MensRights15/07/13 06:04 AM
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BTW how is Muad'Dib doin'? Thanks, I just blew grape soda out of my nose.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:19 AM
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What you're talking about is one component in a larger agenda of destroying the idea of nation states and "old money" families regaining their former power. Do you think it's a coincidence that things like the education systems globally have been being slowly eroded and destroyed over the past 50 years? Or that the same people who founded the environmental movement were either backers of the Nazis or Nazi party members themselves? Or that the wealth of the nation in terms of prosperity, standard…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:01 AM
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What if she gets pregnant by one of her lovers? Then he has a real problem.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 05:00 AM
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Reagan wasn't a genius. He just believed strongly in what he thought was right. What is better, being smart and wrong or dumb and right?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:56 AM
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The question is why people in the developed world feel this need to label themselves as one thing and choose to live by how other people define said thing. Or they think of themselves as liberal/conservative and approach every issue by asking how does my side see this. Still, language is important because it simplifies our understanding. Sometimes it over simplifies but getting rid of political descriptions won't make life any easier.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 04:54 AM
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I have never liked Tyson. I don't know why. Anyway, this quote, if true, is kinda dumb. Words help us define ideas. Labeling someone a feminist gives us a rather good idea of what they are striving for. I once had a young pup try and convince me that this new idea called participatory economics, parecon for short, was this great new way to organize society. So I read the tract and what i found was communitarian society organized around councils which decided how goods, services, and jobs were di…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 01:01 AM
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Oh you will. Bwahahahahaa. YOU WILL.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:54 AM
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In short Yes, please try and make it a little bit shorter. You're ideas are all over the place. Eugenics? Is limiting payments for children born out of wedlock eugenics? To be clear, the weak I am talking about are single mothers and the policies I am against are anything which pays women to have kids without fathers. (The idea that the gov't has subverted the role of father.) I don't think we disagree about this but you somehow have gotten the idea that I am against helping men who have been hu…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:53 AM
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OT. Women are so poisoned in the US that they treat men like animals. Well that isn't the case in most of the world. Leave the US, and the Anglosphere, if you want to find a mate. In eastern Europe you will find many beautiful women who are feminine. You can flirt with them without being pepper-sprayed. It is tough to be in college and give up on women. Just bide your time and save your money. Life is great once you sample the treats that exist outside of our feminazi oppressed country.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 05:11 AM
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We are.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 05:00 AM
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What % of the total of single mothers do you think your examples represent? Here is what i think, and you are going to think this is hyperbole, but the western world is dying. Our culture is corrupt, creating perverse incentives for awful behavior. And it is out of concern for the weak that so much of our horrible public policy is allowed to continue. It's destroying the foundation of our society, the family, but we are so concerned with protecting everyone that we miss the big picture which is …
/r/MensRights06/07/13 04:59 AM
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You don't have to micromanage. You just have to stop rewarding the behavior. After welfare reform passed in the US in 1996 the number of second children dropped because the payments made to single mothers dropped. But if you reward single mothers guess what happens?
/r/MensRights04/07/13 09:40 PM
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Let me be clear. No sex = no abortion. If you want to limit the number of abortions then raise the cost of sex outside of marriage. I bet you were against welfare reform. Right?
/r/MensRights04/07/13 06:10 PM
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And does it work well? It works for the feminists. Look at their tactics and look at what they have accomplished and what they control. They are able to get people and organizations to bend to their will because they ruthlessly use their power. I'm sorry but your "let's play nice" strategy is completely useless.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 06:04 PM
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Men will respect someone with whom they disagree. Women want to destroy those with whom they disagree.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:17 AM
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Women who do not support the rights of men are the good Germans. Time to bomb Dresden.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:08 AM
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I would love to see less abortions. I think it is an awful practice. What traditionalists don't get is that the decision to have an abortion rests entirely with a woman so the way to get them to have fewer abortions is to raise the cost of out of wedlock sex. Right now we are paying women to be single mothers. If we stopped doing that there would be fewer single mothers.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 12:05 AM
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Women who say they aren't feminists but who support most aspects of feminism do so because of the feminine imperative. That is, the belief that it is right and natural for men to sacrifice for women. IOW, they are the good Germans who did nothing.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 11:58 PM
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The whole justification for the existence of men's rights is the equality principle. If we let that depend on political bargaining, the moral base of the movement vanishes. Didn't feminism start out as being about equality? Don't some of them still make that argument even though it is demonstrably a lie? The moral base of any political movement is to get its policies enacted. Nobody gives a rat's ass if you hold to some principle if you get nothing done. Besides, i am not talking about violence.…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 11:55 PM
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You are criticizing Feminists for supporting reproductive rights for one gender but not the other... and yet you are doing the same thing. No, I am not. I am offering a choice, your support for our support. You want to give them something for nothing. And non-feminists who don't support male reproductive rights are just as bad.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 11:48 PM
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When have we asked NOW to comment on reproductive rights for men? Most feminists ignore the issue.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:40 AM
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Good point. It is about reciprocity. We have to demand it because they aren't going to give it.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:37 AM
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Isn't that the big thing that differentiates us? MRA's support rights for BOTH genders. God I hope not. If we support their positions and they don't support ours then WE ARE SAPS.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:34 AM
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That is what we need to negotiate with the feminists. My argument is based on politics.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:30 AM
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...but I say we can support women's rights even if Feminists don't support ours. You can make a moral argument that it is the right thing to do. I am making a political argument that it is stupid to give something for nothing. And ultimately, that is what you are saying. "Here is my support, can I have yours? No. Ok." And the status quo prevails.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:28 AM
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MRAs are not trying to restrict women's reproductive rights although I suspect there is some overlap between the MRA and pro-life communities. Still, there are many pro-choice MRAs and that issue is not one of contention. All I would say is the pro-choice side would gain badly needed support if they made it pro-choice for men and women. And that until that happens MRAs shouldn't be reflexively pro-choice for political reasons, not moral reasons, purely political hardball.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:25 AM
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Nothing. if that is what you are arguing then we have no argument.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 05:22 AM
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Abortion rights are getting more restrictive across the country. Feminists need our help to prevent this. The price for our help is reproductive rights for men. Quid pro quo.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 11:34 PM
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There is no male equivalent to a woman's need for an abortion. A man doesn't face immediate death from pregnancy. He does face 18 years of labor supporting a child he did not want. We can determine the relative risks of 9 months of pregnancy vs. 20% of 18 years of labor if you want?
/r/MensRights02/07/13 10:12 PM
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Awww. That's to bad. Meanwhile many men pay child support for kids who are not even theirs. Men are thrown in jail because they can't find a job or afford court ordered child support. If you want our sympathy how about showing some empathy.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 09:35 PM
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It is leverage the MRM can use to exact support from feminists. The traditionalists want to stop abortion. They are succeeding. Feminists need our help. Our price is your support for male reproductive rights. (And yes this is a cynical hardball political approach. Just like when the feminists joined fundamentalist Christians to help pass IMBRA.)
/r/MensRights02/07/13 09:29 PM
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Only a Sith speaks in absolutes. This is how the big boys (and girls) play politics. Either join the fight or get out of the way.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 09:23 PM
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Huh? If the woman doesn't want the child then she gets an abortion, gives it to the father to raise, or gives it up for adoption. I don't understand what you are saying.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 09:21 PM
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There are two sides to a negotiation. The carrot and the stick. You are only offering carrots if you support their position but don't demand they support yours. If you are raising a child you have to offer rewards and punishment. Too much of either gets bad results. So far we are only offering to support their reproductive rights and they are taking that support and telling us to go &*( yourself when we ask for their support. This is how you play politics.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 09:19 PM
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Good. I can't believe I am getting down voted for pointing this out. To me, it's politics 101. But I am getting scolded for being immoral. Don't these guys know who we are fighting?
/r/MensRights02/07/13 12:48 AM
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It is using their hypocrisy as leverage against them and they do it all the time. The feminists use children as weapons against men. And you don't want to do wrong? Wake up cupcake, you either play politics hard or don't bother.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 12:44 AM
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Who's winning? They play hardball and you don't want to be as bad as them? Then you want to lose.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 12:41 AM
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And this isn't a war of men against women... equality can be had by both sides, so there's no reason to think "I don't care if women have rights if someone of them don't care about my rights". Shouldn't you be in favor of rights for everyone? I am in favor of reproductive rights for everyone. But most feminists either don't favor it for men or are unwilling to speak out in favor of reproductive rights for men. The only logical thing to do is to withdraw our support for your rights until you chan…
/r/MensRights01/07/13 11:42 PM
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I do support women's right to choose! Why does this have to be an either-or situation? Why do you support their rights when they refuse to support yours? Don't you want to win? This is all about politics. If you give them something for nothing then you get nothing.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 11:37 PM
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We should not support abortion rights for women until they support choice for men. It is purely a political move. They need us because public opinion is turning against abortion rights. Let's not give them something for nothing.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 11:34 PM
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I am going to sound like a broken record but the artificial uterus is coming and you are going to see a lot more men like this guy. Someday, men will be raising families with their fembots.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 06:37 AM
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At some point there will be an artificial uterus and it will much cheaper for men to bypass women for procreation. This will be a huge change for society much like antibiotics and the birth control pill freed women's sexuality. The artificial uterus will free men from women completely.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 06:24 AM
8

Cults encourage paranoia.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 04:43 AM
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It's a made up word. So is feminism.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 01:35 AM
1

Lawyers aren't free. If a woman has very little assets there is no point. Even if she does she can hide them. Oj Simpson had a civil judgment against him and they have collected very little because he sheltered his assets. I am not saying your intentions are wrong, just that money could be better spent trying for custody or some other avenue.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 09:32 AM
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Your links are very helpful. Just a minor quibble. A lot of men who come here have been involuntarily separated from their children by the state and by a former spouse who lied about them. You have to cut these men slack. Women rage against men but very few of them have been thrown in jail from a false allegation from a man. Unfortunately, it happens to men too often.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 09:28 AM
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Machiavelli and Sun Tzu get quoted a lot on this subreddit. But they had a lot to say about human nature and politics in particular. I try and follow the teachings of Jesus and Buddha in real life, that doesn't seem to be working in the wider world where millions of people live and vote.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 08:07 AM
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Thanks.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 08:07 AM
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Nope. Do you have a link for that?
/r/MensRights29/06/13 07:07 AM
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Personally, I could live with 1st trimester abortions. That being said, I want to win a political argument so conceding that argument by being pro-choice and then supporting pro-choice politicians takes away our ability to influence them. IOW, we want something--reproductive rights for men--they have something--reproductive rights for women. We should be willing to vote against their rights if they refuse to support ours. We have to be willing to play political hardball or we will lose.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 07:05 AM
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A lot of this depends on age. The older the feminist the more likely she knows better and that she supports the movement because she truly hates men.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 06:10 AM
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I swear this is true. In 1981, I had a woman use the $0.77 for every dollar a man makes used on me for the first time. Congratulations on being a man and admitting your mistake. Now be prepared to be punished for your honesty.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 06:07 AM
2

You have a choice. Be principled or live as a cockroach.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 06:04 AM
2

Google Nikolai Yezhov. OP is him. All leftists make those who question 'disappear.'
/r/MensRights29/06/13 06:03 AM
2

It sucks to grow up and realize that most people are self-interested. Stop being reflexively pro-choice. Why do you support their rights when they don't give a fuck about yours?
/r/MensRights29/06/13 05:55 AM
1

She must be Episcopalian.
/r/MensRights29/06/13 04:26 AM
2

Good point. God help you if you have a kid with a feminist.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 09:34 PM
2

A woman I know put up a go grrrl post about how she didn't need men to protect her. Good luck with that sister.
/r/MensRights28/06/13 08:34 PM
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I think men are starting to wake up and cut out the white knighting. Good for the security guard.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 11:31 PM
3

Never pay more than you are required. The money will not go to your child. You need to get a modification of child support given the change in your income.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 01:05 AM
4

Go to the law section of reddit and ask about engagement rings. I am pretty sure that you could sue her to get it back. I would explain the situation to the jewelry store, they might have experience in this since I doubt this is the first time an engagement has broken up. Personally, I had the same thing happen to me and I just took it off her finger.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 07:09 AM
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You should be. Good job.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 07:05 AM
7

Stardusk has a youtube channel on which he talks about men's issues from a ghosting perspective. (I have just recently started watching his videos so if anyone has a better description it would be appreciated.) Stardusk believes in no or very little contact with women. Elam interviewed Stardusk 3 weeks ago in a very informative way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD5zvzYZaoc They seemed like they got along on most issues and agreed to disagree on some. Then Stardusk said he was slow down making …
/r/MensRights24/06/13 06:36 PM
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Paul's personality is the problem. If Paul left AVFM it would be a good thing for that site and for the MRM.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 06:30 PM
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This really isn't about what Stardusk said other than what he said was not an attack on Elam or AVFM in any way. This is about Elam being a rageoholic with poor impulse control. Paul Elam is a cancer on the MRM. The man is divisive and given to fits of rage beyond all proportion to the criticism he has received. Elam's personality is a detriment to the expansion of the MRM.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 06:28 PM
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Sorry, I don't have that and if it was at AVFM then I imagine it has disappeared.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:43 PM
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Yes, he does. But he doesn't take criticism very well. And that should tell you something about him as a person and as a potential leader. Just for fun I went back to see the beginning of this rift between Chapin and Elam just so I made sure that I had it right. I did. Go watch Chapin's video and read Elam's response. http://www.avoiceformen.com/featured/a-wandering-cauldron-of-complete-bullshit/ Chapin's criticism is that leftists were infiltrating AVFM and that it was way too obvious for Elam …
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:59 PM
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Just to be clear, what I find disturbing about Paul Elam is his officious attitude about the MRM. He has every right to control the content of his blog. But he doesn't have a right to tell men how the movement should be run or who should be the voices that represent the movement.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:48 PM
1

Bernard Chapin had a blog at MND and I was one of the co-bloggers. I can honestly say that I had never heard of Paul Elam until he started AVFM. Edit: I looked up Paul Elam at MND and found that he started writing for them in July 2009. By then Chapin's blog had gone defunct and I had moved on. So far from what I can tell, the Elam's involvement in the MRM began in 2009 because that is also when he started his Youtube channel, the Happy Misogynist.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:38 PM
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http://owningyourshit.blogspot.com/2013/06/okay-i-really-wasnt-interested-in-doing.html?showComment=1371518795485 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x10ordl_paul-elam-2013-jun-02-conversation-with-kristina-hansen_news#.UcCW6-fU9rM First link is GWW take on the firing of WoolyBumblebee from AVFM which takes place in the second link.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:22 PM
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Go listen to her video response to Elam and then decide if she is crazy. My vote is for crazy but not as crazy as her husband. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGHim9L5Fns
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:30 AM
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Linchpin? This movement started in the 90s. Do you remember Men's News Daily? AVFM has been around for a few years. Elam came along and was welcomed by a lot of MRA and now he wants to remake the movement as the MHRM. Please, that's just Elam proclaiming himself king.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 08:26 AM
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I hope that all MRA read this and come to the conclusion I did awhile ago. Paul Elam is no good for the MRM. I don't know if he is in this for self-aggrandizement, or lulz, or money but he has made a lot of stupid choices at AVFM and gone out of his way to alienate a lot of good people.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 07:57 AM
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Paul is a pragmatist and he's always wanted to grow the "movement" by being more inclusive and attracting gays, blacks and women. There is nothing wrong with wanting to grow the movement. Elam's big mistake was taking on people who looked at the MRM as a means to other ends. Some are leftists who want to minimize the conservative and/or libertarian influence on the movement. My problem with Elam is he was way to quick to come down on Bernand Chapin when Chapin disagreed with Esmay. Was it pride …
/r/MensRights18/06/13 07:50 AM
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Look at where this comes from. The Guardian is a very liberal paper in Britain. He had to bow to the feminists a little to get this printed. the fact that this is getting said in the heart of the feminist press is a big deal.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:29 AM
1

Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtUb_E1qUHA
/r/MensRights15/06/13 06:13 AM
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Then you just want to control the conversation by making some topics taboo. I subscribe to the South Park standard. It's either all or nothing. BTW, did you see Jim Norton debate Lindy West of Jezebel on this topic?
/r/MensRights15/06/13 06:12 AM
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How are we to know who is a rape victim and who isn't? How are we to know that what we are saying is offensive or not? How about we don't change the way we speak for the easily offended. So much easier that way.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 03:05 AM
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I'll look out for it.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 12:38 AM
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It looks like Paul Elam pulled the video of him firing WBB from youtube. Too bad, it was epic. I did manage to save a comment by GWW which is not relevant to the controversy but is so good it must be saved. If you removed every single state-granted artificial support women enjoy, from subsidized daycare to state-enforced workplace conduct rules to maternity leave...you'd better believe the majority of women would see traditionalism as their best option. If you removed a 911 system that can have…
/r/MensRights06/06/13 08:24 AM
2

Yeah, I was just trying to articulate my POV and I understand why you don't buy into the whole thing. I appreciate that you took it that way, also. Another way I look at it is the MRM is just a set of issues: father's rights, protection of young men against false rape accusations, etc. and you can pick what is most important to you. And it really doesn't matter how you come to supporting the MRM, just that you do. The only problem comes down to our bifurcated political system in which you have t…
/r/MensRights06/06/13 08:21 AM
2

It's the feminist version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I am stealing this. Seriously brilliant.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 07:22 AM
1

Bravo.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 07:19 AM
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You need to read Rules for Radicals. Alinsky was scum but he did know political street fighting. The feminists know this too and if you fight their ideas in the political arena and treat them as just misguided souls they will use your kindness against you and tear you apart. P.S. The vast majority of people are no fundamentally good. That is major flaw in your analysis.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 07:14 AM
2

I can't tell you how many times I have seen someone join the MRM and then try to take it over and shout down those who disagree. I first joined Nice Guys women mostly suck forum in 2003. Then I blogged for Men's News Daily. Later there were more websites and forums than I can remember. The people who are still around who deserve respect like Zenpriest or Bernard Chapin or GWW gained a following because they were about ideas. Disagree with them or not they put it out on the table. You treat them …
/r/MensRights06/06/13 07:02 AM
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This is a long, semi-complex explanation that I am going to try to simplify. I, as a conservative with libertarian sympathies, believe that Leftists core beliefs center around the ideas of Marx. He divided the world along class lines which meant there were oppressors and oppressed. Later during the 1930s Marxists expanded this idea to gender and race, the Frankfurt school, which was the beginning of cultural Marxism and identity politics. The New Left of the 1960s adopted these critiques and fem…
/r/MensRights06/06/13 06:46 AM
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Never accept one side of the story. I would love if OP would get his grandfather's side and post it here. I bet it would be illuminating.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 10:32 PM
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