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When will women understand that men are biologically driven to want sex. Cool, you guys should have sex with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:51 PM
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One was "he was trying to neg me so I stopped messaging him" LMAO, man emotionally abuses woman, woman loses interest. Men could just, not emotionally abuse women. That's always an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:56 PM
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Any man who sees sex as a physical only/transactional activity rather than an expression of love and commitment is incompatible with me. Instant no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:29 PM
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No chance, it'd play on their mind constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:34 AM
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Being a whore and having no dignity or self respect is 'sexually successful' to these guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 02:34 AM
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He's a conservative christian but he's got a sexual history and that isn't looked on too well in these circles as you can imagine. He also wants a woman who is unvaccinated and wants to have a lot of children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 06:41 AM
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Is he still trying to contact you? Idk i blocked him. I hope he learned his lesson and behaves differently in future relationships. He's still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:43 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:59 PM
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Also this is strange logic. You're implying that unless a person is flawless they deserve to be emotionally abused with red pill tactics, who the fuck would put up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:25 PM
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I never said I was a flawless person. I literally detailed in a previous post that he was frustrated that I lived far away and wanted me to move closer to him faster. He attempted to use 'dread game' to motivate me to move faster and it completely backfired. When I eventually did move closer to him, he saw on my social media and started messaging me asking to meet up because he still had feelings for me and wanted to stick with our original plan. I blocked him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:15 PM
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He got to not marry you. That was his victory. He's the one who wanted marriage, I didn't. I was willing to go through with it because how much I loved him. And I know that because you admitted it. Men don’t perform “red pill tactics” when they’re getting what they want. "Give me what I want or I'll start abusing you" is certainly an interesting strategy. And what exactly did he want that I wasn't "giving" to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:00 PM
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Still, some women want a provider man so she can have kids and focus on being a mom without dealing with the financial side Not many at all. Women much prefer dating men their own age with a good personality and decent looks vs an older one with more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:41 PM
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The majority of women in the modern world aren't dating for wealth and don't care that much about how much their partner makes. But obviously, men on here don't like hearing that so they sperg out when women say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 12:36 PM
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Nothing would change, I'd just want a man with a personality similar to mine with values that align with mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:37 PM
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LMAOOOOOOOOO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:33 PM
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How is she a grifter? She doesn't beg for followers for money like Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:59 AM
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Because then you can whore around as you please?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:50 AM
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Nice strawman you created. Men hate this POS because she treats men like objects, like ATMs and then dumps them when she has extracted enough money out of them. When? Literally when did she do this? Do you even know anything about her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:49 AM
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Why not just stay single then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:05 AM
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It's insane how many men hate this woman because she makes them feel inadequate when she talks about dating men with money. SHE has her own money, she never needed him for that. What are you even trying to say here? That women deserve to be cheated on unless they date broke men? She should abort the kid and never speak to him again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:05 AM
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I was already working on moving closer to him but he got impatient and literally destroyed everything. I wanted to marry and have children with this man, now he's dead to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:17 PM
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I resonate a lot with this. It's insane how much your dating pool as a woman massively decreases if you just refuse to date a promiscous or formerly promiscuous man. Most "religious" men become religious in their late 20s after a hoe phase earlier on and are ASTONISHED to learn that chaste women don't want to date formerly slutty men who "found god" just as their hairline started to recede.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 07:06 PM
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Well words are cheap and his actions showed the opposite Which actions are you referring to? You don't date other people and demand no contact if you want to marry someone. He found the distance frustrating and hoped that making me jealous would cause me to 'get a move on' (It didn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:11 PM
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No, we decided to wait until I moved closer to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:09 PM
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Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:09 PM
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Yeah it's not really referring to back and forth joking, but rather a deliberate attempt to undermine self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:45 AM
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honestly it kinda sounds like he fell out of love with you. Yeah sorry but that's not what happened at all. He was talking about how much he wanted to marry me after this.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:48 AM
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He told me he loved me and wanted to marry me, I would expect someone to not go on a date with someone else after saying that yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:18 AM
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I can't believe they think that works
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:16 AM
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Yes pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:14 AM
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He was finding the distance hard, so I agreed to not talking until I moved closer to him. This was after we told each other we loved each other and were talking about marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 09:13 AM
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it's so funny because who the fuck gets more interested after being insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:08 PM
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You don't know anything about me, him or the relationship. This man was talking about marrying me. As for him "Needing" to use red pill tactics, he went from me loving him and wanting to marry him to blocking him everywhere. He's now single and alone. So, what exactly did he get from this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:07 PM
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A red-pilled man told me that he was able to secure a girlfriend he'll marry soon by using the tricks they recommended. Yikes does she have BPD? Self esteem issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:04 PM
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and what was he trying to accomplish with that? Make me move closer to him faster? Trp only recommends that type of stuff for guys that aren't getting laid, are getting disrespected It's literally the worst advice I've ever heard, ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:00 PM
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No because this is the most extreme example of black and white thinking I've ever seen and makes no sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:59 PM
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Dread game/Cold shoulder/Being distant on purpose Also tried to make me jealous by going on a date with another girl when we were taking some time apart
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:46 PM
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He was waiting for me to move closer to where he lived. If you were not together at the moment why would him dating other girl be a problem? If he wants to date other girls fine, but then I'm not interested anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 10:46 PM
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He copied an Andrew Tate video, so I'd class it as part of manosphere bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:49 PM
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Dread game/Cold shoulder/Being distant on purpose Also tried to make me jealous by going on a date with another girl when we were taking some time apart
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:46 PM
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Dread game/Cold shoulder/Being distant on purpose Also tried to make me jealous by going on a date with another girl when we were taking some time apart
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:46 PM
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Dread game/Cold shoulder/Being distant on purpose Also tried to make me jealous by going on a date with another girl when we were taking some time apart
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:45 PM
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Thank you for the kind words. I'm actually doing much better now that I'm focusing on other things instead <3 Sad but I think the manosphere is going to destroy a huge % of relationships in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:06 PM
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That's pretty much what happened yeah. He thinks I'm sour because his manipulation tactic worked rather than disgusted me, it's almost insane how strongly he's tried to avoid admitting he fucked up big time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:53 PM
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What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:42 PM
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Nope, he insisted that the tactic 'worked on his exes' and incorrectly assumed that it 'worked on me too' I'm not sure how me telling him that I lost interest and massively resent him now fits into his worldview but hey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:38 PM
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You can rest assured that any woman who struggles with dating is a hot mess of terrible decision making. Not necessarily, you don't have to have extreme trauma or mental illness to be treated badly by a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:34 PM
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Was in love with a man who I'd never had such strong feelings for in my life, had the most incredible connection with him and insane chemistry and attraction. I fully intended to marry and have kids with him (even though i hate the idea of marriage) I would've been happy to stay home with the kids too. He tried to use some 'red pill tactics' on me and I lost most of the attraction almost overnight. If a relationship as strong and good as that can be destroyed by an ideology that 60% of men now i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:32 PM
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I don't want to so no. The last 2 people that asked got rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:01 PM
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It isn't "unpaid" labour, you're literally being paid to do it. By the man. That's what marriage is. If both couples work (a fairly common dynamic), both get home at 6pm, the wife immediately starts cooking the food and doing the laundry and the husband sits down in front of the TV, where's the payment for that? Yeah, they lose the man's income. Meaning the man contributed more, financially, throughout the marriage. Not how it works. You really do live in upside-down world, don't you? No, I live…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:52 AM
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Well the very institution is based on the past view that women are property to be given away to men. Women are pressured to change their names, men aren't. Women are cheated on more, they're the victims of violence more, they do more unpaid labour. Women's life expectancy goes down by 2 years when married, mens increases by 2 years. When divorcing, women lose more income, often live in poverty for years. In places without no fault divorce, they have to remain separated for years before they can …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 08:28 AM
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Good, marriage is cringe and outdated, no upsides for women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:51 AM
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Agreed, marriage has zero benefits for women and no sane woman would get married.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/25 01:03 PM
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Yes.
/r/ExRedPill23/05/25 06:34 AM
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I'm not with him anymore. He tried to use a "manosphere" tactic on me and lost me.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/25 04:20 PM
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No amount of brainwashing or online propaganda could make me see the man I love like that.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/25 04:06 PM
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I will never understand how people like you can do this to someone you claim to supposedly love. Honestly, any adoption of red pill behaviour or beliefs should be an instant divorce.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/25 04:01 PM
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I said over 21. I'd be dating down by quite a few years even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 05:34 PM
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You completely ignored the point I was making. I wasn't getting emotional at all, are you that incapable of reading tone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 09:00 AM
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It's literally just facts, stop getting so emotional. I don't care if they asked for it or not, these people are advocating to strip my rights away, to take away my choices about my life and health and body, am I supposed to be loving and understanding in response? If I flip this around, I could make the argument that men like him should be chained to a wall in a mental asylum since he wants me to be the 'property' of my father.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:30 PM
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Implying that unattractive people are better people is literally an example of the just world fallacy, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:45 PM
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If you want a hot guy over a reliable one, Where does this dichotomy of hot guy vs reliable guy come from? Ugly men aren't these incredibly perfect people that you make them out to be. Hoemath is autistic, in his late 30s and has been out of work for 5+ years. He earns a living by calling women whores on the internet. Are you seriously trying to argue that he is a better choice than a handsome, social guy in his mid 20s with a normal job? The truth is, ugly men are often bad people too. They're …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:22 PM
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Hoemath is autistic, like a huge percentage of 'redpill' followers. Women aren't choosing them and they're getting increasingly desperate, this is nothing more than a desperate daydream of a sad lonely man who will die single, childless alone and unloved.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:14 PM
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If it's essentially just masturbation, there really isn't much point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:57 AM
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I'm sorry but if women are basically getting themselves off, why even bother having the man in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:11 AM
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The majority of male virgins aren't disciplined and value sex. They're desperate not to be anymore, hardly what I'm looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 12:10 AM
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Yes, yes it is. Quick glance of that thread only confirms this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 11:50 PM
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Yes they very much are, especially ones who share my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 10:41 PM
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It stops the misappropriation of wealth and allows you to joint file your taxes. 'Misappropriation of wealth' how exactly? Alimony exists for a reason, despite being rarely awarded nowadays. Explain to me how what I said is incorrect. It's not rocket science to see a dynamic in which one demographic is desperate and the other is profiting from it. There's a reason why hypergamy is a word social scientists use. Women don't profit from marriage, you're just talking shit. Substantiate your claim in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 09:03 AM
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They lose 2 years life expectancy, have less leisure time, higher stress. Then if they divorce, they end up poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:49 AM
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It on average, extends life expectancy, makes you happier, and gives you tax breaks. This is a video, not stats. If anything, marriage is actually beneficial and would likely have no problems if it came pre-installed with a prenup and alimony didn't exist. How would this be in any way beneficial? Prenup and alimony being more of a problem for men than women because of hypergamy that is. You've got manosphere brain rot. Other than that, the stains are pretty evenly set. Nope, they're against wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:39 AM
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No, the law as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:56 AM
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But, it's actually not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:14 AM
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There are literally zero benefits. Plus we lose 2 years of life expectancy, have higher levels of stress, have less leisure time, often have to give up our last name.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:09 AM
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I hope you tell your daughters the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:07 PM
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?????
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:03 PM
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I feel the same way towards marriage as a woman. Completely and utter scam, I'm glad it's dying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:00 PM
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I mean statistically that just isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:29 PM
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What are you saying? That tons of men over 21 are virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:22 PM
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No, I meant there are hardly any virgin men left over that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:13 PM
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I wish but that's extremely rare over age 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:13 PM
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Age: between 22-30 Height: No preference Income: No preference Looks: Average+ looking Values: Caring, kind, loves children, animals, the environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 01:10 AM
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I literally did. My ex was 3 months older than me, he was around 6ft 1, he makes average salary, I thought he looked good and he had the same values as me (but broke 2 of the above list)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:55 AM
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No obesity/severe underweight Slept with less than 5 people Doesn't watch porn No severe mental illness/neurodivergence Doesn't watch Manosphere content/Andrew Tate My ex was 3 months older than me, he was around 6ft 1, he makes average salary, I thought he looked good and he had the same values as me (but broke 2 of the above list)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:52 AM
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Last ex hurt me a lot and made me lose interest in dating/relationships. Plus almost no men meet my very basic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:43 AM
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I gave up on marriage and kids so now it's mainly about wealth building and community forging (I'm late 20s)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 12:36 AM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:51 PM
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Or he lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:55 AM
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If she doesn't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:25 AM
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Where's your source that they do, you're the one making the claim!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:49 AM
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Most of them don't though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 04:37 AM
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It probably does, and if you disagree, I don't know if there's anything to discuss here. My grandmother got married at 19, she was an extremely religious and a virgin at her wedding. She had 3 kids with her husband before age 25 and stayed home to be a housewife. She got cheated on and ended up a single mother at 26. You can do everything 'by the book' and still end up a single mother. I will gladly show you the next time I see a woman say they only date providers, leaders, and/or protectors, or…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:29 AM
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Being a single mother doesn't mean she isn't traditional, her husband could've passed away or cheated and left. 'Head of household, Protector' I've never heard a woman list these things as requirements from men in my life. Usually this is the kind of stuff that men say. If I heard a woman say this, I'd assume she was mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:20 AM
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Imagine a promiscuous woman saying she bagged a traditional man Yeah that'd be pretty gross. You’re the that incel dude here, stop being weird Hahaha, it's so funny how off the mark you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:06 AM
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but she demands a man who's a provider, head of household, protector, male gender role stereotype. Well that depends if he's had a lot of casual sex, has tattoos or is loud/outspoken too. Is that hypocritical to you in the same way a guy who has lots of sex is a hypocrite for wanting a low body count woman? This is literally the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:05 AM
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Does she deserve the massively increased risk of cancer?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 01:01 AM
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On the other side of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:59 AM
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Doesn't mean she knows
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:58 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:57 AM
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What makes you think you deserve a low N count partner after what you've done?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:51 AM
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Women have been using sex to get what In response to having their power stripped away, this is somehow comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:42 AM
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men are naturally going to try to get around women's "radar" this is so sick
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:07 AM
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The overwhelming majority of women get hit on or advanced on by the majority of the male population once they start hitting puberty. GO OUTSIDE.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:08 AM
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Ha. Thats what they tell you I lived with them so I'm not sure how they could've 'hid' that. Besides they are often the ones who brought up the topic first before I did. Given how easily they became aroused too, I highly doubt it. Obviously men have learned to say to the pretty woman they want to bone that they don't watch porn, they know what women want to hear. None of them 'boned' me but okay, sure. I make it clear to the men that I date that these are dealbreakers and I will leave a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:13 AM
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The only one of those that wouldn't cover the majority of 22 year old men is "doesn't watch porn" Nope, 60% of men watch manosphere content now so that rules more than half of them out. Which is a challange you will have to confront with EVERY man, I've actually not struggled to find men who don't watch porn, the others have been a major issue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:29 AM
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A quick Google search seems to indicate that no less than 67% of adult men under 50 watch pornography (up to 79%) in any capacity. It looks like more than that in my country. By definition, that alone makes your standards high I disagree, a 'high standard' would imply it's unreasonable or difficult for most people to achieve. Not being a coomer is completely within a mans control. because you've already eliminated anywhere from 2/3 to 80% of men based on one criterion alone, and then they have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:42 PM
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Because pornography shrinks grey matter in the brain, is a superstimulus that destroys attention span and relationship happiness and shows poor self control. Plus I'd want to be with someone who shares my views of sex as being special and reserved for people who love each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:37 PM
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No obesity/severe underweight Slept with less than 5 people Doesn't watch porn No severe mental illness/neurodivergence Doesn't watch Manosphere content/Andrew Tate No I don't think they're too high, I think they're ridiculously, almost comically low.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:30 PM
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Funny because I don't care about money and I dumped my last partner (who was pretty wealthy) because of he tried to use a 'manosphere' tactic on me and I lost interest. But okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 01:53 PM
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Not necessarily, I just think 95% are undatable due to my criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 06:20 AM
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From my own personal experience and criteria, 90-95% of men are undateable. If I had the same standards for men that I have for myself, it would be like 99.9%
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 08:48 PM
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Nope, it's like missing a key sense. Unable to understand social dynamics, nuance, body language, tone of voice, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:57 PM
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Women literally suck at dating. Men are carrying out species on their back More women have children than men. It’s takes an extroverted charming successful men to push life forward. Women are passive recipients but like to act like they aren’t out of sheer pride.? Or just a normal man who gets to know a woman and then they get together? Y’all bump your heads until a decent guys stumbles upon YOU. Y’all suck at dating tho. Always have. It’s why a lot of men who aren’t deserving will always have w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:09 PM
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Just telling it like it is 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:55 PM
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And? The point still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:37 PM
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This poster hasn't mentioned it specifically but look through the subreddit to see the number of posts that mention this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:32 PM
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Sure it doesn't. Must just be a coincidence that a huge % of posts on this sub are autistic men complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:00 PM
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You act like you are better than us, you aren't Given that I actually take responsibility and don't try to deflect my feelings with very immature black and white thinking, I'd say that I am yeah. especially if you think autism is a bad thing I don't think a developmental disability that seems to breed both entitlement and resentment towards the opposite sex is a good thing, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:47 PM
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???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:08 PM
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Women don't think like this. YOU think women think like this, hence my point. Also 'Top 10%' will be subjective to every woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:02 PM
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I'm claiming that there are tradeoffs on the relationships women choose, and if women are right about very few men being worthy of relationships, then there are very few women who will get lucky. But then you made a comment about women not dating their "looksmatch" It's clear you think what 'men are worthy of relationships' are like. Why attack the messenger? I may or may not be autistic, but does that make my argument any more valid/invalid? Most posts like this are just autistic men rambling n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:54 PM
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"Either choose men on your looks match, or face the fact that "it's your turn, not your man". It's a tradeoff... just as a job. You can choose a less-than-ideal job or be unemployed. Very few people end up working and earning enough on what they love."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:41 PM
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I swear every post on this sub is just the same socially awkward/autistic men screeching about women being shallow and destined to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:35 PM
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Your thinking is black and white No it isn't, that's called sarcasm. I deliberately exaggerated in order to draw attention to how ridiculous OP's line of thinking was. because you're taking his argument -Women insist on how attractive A, B, C traits are, but priotitize others in their actions- with a very binary "NOT EVERY GOOD LOOKING PERSON IS EVIL That isn't what gaslighting means. It's also making a bizarre assumption that these things are immutable traits. A person might be generally kind b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:57 AM
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But yours is the black and white. How exactly is mine black/white? OP has a point and you're trying to gaslight him. How? A lot of women insist that the most important thing is kindness and respect. But they act in a way that shows that their litmus test is looks. OP didn't say anything about looks, he mentioned 3 specific traits: tall , funny and good in bed. 2/3 of these traits can be changed/improved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:14 AM
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I've had therapy, that's WHY I can recognise black/white thinking and distorted thinking lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:44 AM
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Such a retarded way of seeing things. Men can be kind, considerate and romantic and ALSO be assholes sometimes. People aren't a collection of 'black/white' antagonistic traits. Seriously get therapy, I'm so sick of people like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:32 AM
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Ah yes, because tall funny men who are good in bed are automatically psychopaths, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:39 AM
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Hard disagree. I can find plenty of men that I find attractive at first glance. But after asking them questions, the attraction very quickly dies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:17 AM
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Nope, I'm not :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:38 PM
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In a nutshell when it comes to dating If you have 5 basic standards for men as a woman: No obesity/severe underweight Slept with less than 5 people Doesn't watch porn No severe mental illness/neurodivergence Doesn't watch Manosphere content/Andrew Tate 90%+ Men fail at these first hurdles. Yet men are online screeching that women only want to date 7ft billionaires with enormous penises when the average man is a fat, coombrained, mentally ill slut and that is what we don't want.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:27 PM
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What does that have to do with literally anything? Do you normally veer off topic like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:25 PM
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Lacking emotional intelligence or social skills does not make you hyper logical, this is a cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:19 AM
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I'm not saying it can't happen, but it isn't deep stuff typically Why are you trying to contradict what men in my country look like? Okay, but that doesn't seem "blue billed" of you So? I don't know what 'pills' mean, I just had to pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:18 AM
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There are two types of virgin men 'I'm a virgin because I value sex and only want to have it within marriage/with someone I love' I'm autistic and no woman wants me I'd love to be with 1, I'd avoid 2 like the plague.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:17 AM
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You are literally just smarter than everyone and see how garbage it all is. Biggest autistic cope ever lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:20 AM
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For the wrinkles, at age 30? Most men in my country have wrinkles by about 25-26. Being fat is controllable mostly, but what will you do about balding? I'd expect him to get a hair transplant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:17 AM
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age horribly in what way? Getting fat? Balding, out of shape, bad skin with lots of wrinkles. And what would happen if you are in a long term relationship? Will you quit it after some years? No but I would expect the guy to look after his health and body and looks so he didn't age horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:59 PM
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I'm 27 Range 22-29 Men in my country age horribly and most men my age look 10 years older than they are. I like men who are close to me in age generally, I wouldn't go more than a few years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:55 AM
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That's stupid and clearly not true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 11:05 AM
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She literally asked why men seem to need another man to tell them to not do this. I never made any claim about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:07 PM
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usually what ends up happening is a guy has to accept things like his girl getting fat/nagging him You gave zero evidence for this at all, just made a vague statement. You also didn't address any of the points I raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:01 PM
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Well that's the truth and the studies prove it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:29 PM
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Bitch I never said that once
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 04:14 PM
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Because women are told from a young age that our value is relative to men and our relationship status. There is a ton of scaremongering about 'dying alone with cats' and 'missing the boat' when it comes to 'getting' commitment from a man. There is a huge amount of social validation for women if you check that box and get married, but then when the reality sets in and it's nothing like the fairytale that been sold to them, they jump ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 02:11 PM
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I mean its nice when women decide to do that but thats crazy if you actually think men seriously date and marry women based on them needing to do these things. And yet that is what happens. Mens roles are required for it to be possible to get anywhere with most women to begin with. What do you mean by that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:02 PM
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Yes mothers work full time, but most mothers are also the primary care giver. Meaning generally speaking after the woman becomes a mother, she can't work evenings/weekends or spend long hours away, because someone has to be at home with the kids (her). If the kid is sick, she'll be the one off to take care of it. It's not really possible to do ALL of the housework and childcare and still work a demanding full time job, so she'll have to cut down her hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:57 PM
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It is though because women still do the majority of it in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:33 PM
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The feminist movement is wanting a reasonable division of labour in the home? How fucking horrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:08 PM
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And men don’t think relationships are worth it because of all of the emotional and relationship obligations that come from being in a relationship with a woman. Which obligations are you referring to? It’s too much because they think you constantly change it in a way that only benefits them. What do you mean by this? There’s also the idea of women cheating on them or not choosing them first because they were unattractive. Men cheat more than women do. Or sending out mixed signals to only be told…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 07:00 PM
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And you also proved my point as well as far men thinking women aren’t worth being in a relationship anymore with your long drawn out comment and thinking the women’s view is the only correct way. Women don't think relationships are worth it because when you actually measure things that you get out of relationships (Intimacy, companionship, splitting labour) men tend to get much more than women. Me pointing this out is making men not want to be in relationships? I did read your post and I interpr…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:49 PM
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Right and the stats clearly show this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:36 PM
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Did you actually read anything I wrote? No. Did you actually respond to any individual point? No. Did you provide any counter evidence to anything I said? No. You posted a short, snarky strawman about me claiming that men are 100% at fault when I literally never said anything like this. Congratulations, you proved my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:35 PM
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In heterosexual relationships, women almost ALWAYS do more and men almost always benefit from relationships more than women. In a typical relationship in the West, the man and woman both have a job, but she still does the bulk of the cooking/cleaning/childcare/eldercare/admin/etc. Men have more leisure time in relationships than women, around 2 hours a week depending on the country. Sexually, men tend to be satisfied more than women, some women don't orgasm at all with their partners. Women tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:20 PM
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In heterosexual relationships, women almost ALWAYS do more and men almost always benefit from relationships more than women. In a typical relationship in the West, the man and woman both have a job, but she still does the bulk of the cooking/cleaning/childcare/eldercare/admin/etc. Men have more leisure time in relationships than women, around 2 hours a week depending on the country. Sexually, men tend to be satisfied more than women, some women don't orgasm at all with their partners. Women tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:19 PM
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In heterosexual relationships, women almost ALWAYS do more and men almost always benefit from relationships more than women. In a typical relationship in the West, the man and woman both have a job, but she still does the bulk of the cooking/cleaning/childcare/eldercare/admin/etc. Men have more leisure time in relationships than women, around 2 hours a week depending on the country. Sexually, men tend to be satisfied more than women, some women don't orgasm at all with their partners. Women tend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:19 PM
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Most women still do the majority of the household labour, try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:18 PM
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Only one side is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:17 PM
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No, you'd be expected to do all the cooking and cleaning and household work meaning you'd be able to work fewer hours and take promotion hits at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:17 PM
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The 'logical sex' who need a mentally unstable Canadian 'psychologist' to tell them to exercise regularly and not live in filth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:16 PM
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No, most of them are autistic losers with zero friends with massive amounts of entitlement and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:14 PM
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There is absolutely nothing for women to gain from marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 06:12 PM
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The autism is getting tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:22 PM
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No, you're just weird as fuck and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:42 PM
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This man was religious and waiting until marriage, you don't have a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:38 PM
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Nah, I ain't doing that shit again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:38 PM
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Dread gaming in general is a horrible idea regardless of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:37 PM
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This is a ridiculous take, you were planning a wedding with someone at 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:36 PM
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He was, I was dead set on marrying this guy and I have literally no interest or desire for marriage generally. I definitely won't be going through that again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:36 PM
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Hard no, triggering feelings of abandonment in another person in the hopes of exercising control is a terrible idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:34 PM
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More like desperation really
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:53 PM
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Why would i want to date an old man over a man my own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:07 PM
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I don't get why you can't just accept that young women don't find old men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:52 PM
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Exactly, there's no proof you're with this woman. Literally none.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:48 PM
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Also in this latest picture : https://wwd.com/pop-culture/celebrity-news/matt-bomer-brioni-tuxedo-golden-globes-2024-1236113532/ You can see his greying beard and wrinkles around the eyes. Sign of his age, not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:46 PM
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Yep, both too old for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:43 PM
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I didn't find him attractive because he was so much older than me. My point is I think you are attaching other reasons for being creeped out to age. It was 100% his age, I found is so creepy that he was flirting with me. Have you ever been disgusted by a guy your own age? Yes and their age wasn't the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:39 PM
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Do you have any actual proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:36 PM
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But I dont think its because theyre older Nope, it's because they're older. Most young women are attracted to me. LOL this is such a larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:35 PM
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Because like obesity and bad hygiene, old age is also unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:32 PM
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Most women don't find older men attractive and feel insulted by the entitlement of being hit on by one. It feels extremely inappropriate like being hit on by your dads friend. I got hit on by a 29 year old at 19, I was disgusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:29 PM
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What race/nationality are you and what race/nationality is your girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:23 PM
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Are you autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 10:18 AM
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(including wildly over-pegged child support), then you're not even close A lot of men don't even pay the child support they're ordered to pay. My buddy got divorced a few years ago. He supported his wife as she went to school for years. She left him for a literal heroin addict and now he has to pay her huge sums of money, probably forever, because he "supported her". So, she leeched off of him for years and therefore gets to continue to leech off of him. It is completely backwards. If she had bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 11:19 AM
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He is autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:33 AM
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It literally describes it in detail on the red pill subreddit page.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:28 PM
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Your comments are amongst the best example of why the red pill is right I’ve ever seen. Hate women and see them as inferior = Fine, no problem. Point out that autism is one reason why men are lonely = Wah wah, ableism!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:41 PM
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Red pill see women as inferior? Yes, very much so. I thought I saw more than a few women bearing the red pill flair on this very sub. So? That literally proves nothing. By the way, I know you’re trying to get me mad. Won’t work. LOL, I'm really not actually, I just pointed out the trend of 'red pill' autistic men who cry whenever they feel a community they belong to is being attacked. At least, try and present some arguments that are not personal attacks. I've made no points that were personal a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:10 PM
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Why? You think that makes you superior? I find it ironic that you label yourself with an ideology that sees an entire group (women in this case) as inferior and all out proclaims that manipulating them is fair game. But the moment you feel your own community is being singled out and attacked it's cries of 'ableism'. Have you considered kicking a man when he’s down as a pastime? That seems to be right up your alley. The disgusting ideology that you subscribe to has caused untold amounts of damage…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:54 PM
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I definitely agree with this. I think the 'red pill/manosphere' in many ways started as a way for neurodivergent/mentally ill men or men with personality disorders that make it difficult to get into and sustain relationships to try and understand and navigate social situations since many of them lack or have a severely limited 'social compass'. With dating apps and social media and younger people becoming more and more isolated, a lot of normal men then get drawn into it and since the advice the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:36 PM
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From your post history: 'So now I have to deal with my mother’s guilt over my diagnosis' Spotted the autist and you're a 'red pill man' lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:29 PM
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Yeah because we knew each other for years before that. Manipulation tactics can kill even the most intense feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:26 PM
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It works until it doesn't. Triggering abandonment anxiety doesn't work, it destroys the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:10 PM
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If that’s the love of your life why not suggest therapy? Because I feel massive anger and resentment now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:09 PM
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No, no it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:05 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 02:58 PM
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And? He's much less likely to have a successful relationship than a neurotypical person.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 08:19 AM
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Autistic boys/men can date or even have LTRs "69% of high functioning autistic adolescents want relationships, but almost none succeed" https://incels.wiki/w/Asperger%27s_syndrome#69%_of_high_functioning_autistic_adolescents_want_relationships,_but_almost_none_succeed Also autistic men by and large aren’t misogynists. That’s a harmful stereotype. 'Incels 30 times more likely to be autistic, study finds' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/14/incels-more-likely-to-be-autistic-involuntary-cel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 08:18 AM
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Nah, hopefully my son won't be autistic and I won't raise him to be a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 05:12 PM
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They do? Dating opportunities decrease for both sexes with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:08 PM
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Younger men are also more valuable then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:03 PM
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The most simple and consistent stone of TRP is self improvement. What comes after that changes from person to person. Half of the red pill subreddit is a guide on how to emotionally abuse women. That doesn't change the fact that self-improving yourself to increase your dating market value is inherently a Red Pill belief, not a Blue Pill one. Most non autistic people don't refer to advice as 'pills' Okay..? I don't remember saying that women aren't attracted to any men? I'm saying this isn't how …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:09 AM
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Well that's one way to say that you don't know what Red Pill is. Ah yes, there's nothing even remotely hateful about an ideology that says women are 'the most responsible teenager in the house' and promotes use of 'dread game'. If basic self improvement was all it was, what is even the need to call it 'the red pill' in the first place. Also the 3rd point still stands whether you like it or not. A woman will likely categorize a man the first time they meet. If you're deemed unattractive from the …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:58 AM
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Your first two points ARE TRP No they aren't, that's just basic self improvement advice without all the abuse and manipulation. 3 is just a one way ticket to the friend zone Nope, the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:36 AM
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Do healthy self improvement (Both physical and mental) Build real life connections with real people, stay offline as much as possible Treat women like normal people, befriend them and naturally build connections that lead to a relationship That's literally it Or continue pursuing TRP and turn more and more women against men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 06:23 PM
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We can say they have bad personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:43 AM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:40 AM
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Ok, are you going to say that about any other group with immutable characteristics? Sure, but this post is about autistic men. but let's call it what it is, just nasty. Why is it nasty?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:40 AM
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Exactly? What's the point of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:37 AM
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So? Women are allowed to dislike autistic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:06 PM
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Isn't it obvious that is what they'll be doing since most alimony receipients are former homemakers?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:00 PM
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(93% of whom are women) Less than 10% of divorcees actually receive alimony and even then a substantial percentage of men don't even pay, so it's not a large number at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:50 PM
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Yes. still applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:51 PM
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It's an abusive, hateful male supremacist ideology that promotes every form of toxic behaviour imaginable?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:46 PM
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That sounds horrific, do you mind if I asked what happened?
/r/ExRedPill15/03/25 07:34 AM
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There’s nothing inherently wrong with people who lack social intuition trying to break it down in a logical, robotic way. But it doesn't work, autists have the highest divorce rates vs any other mental disorder. If that’s the way they learn, then that’s what they should be doing. They should just stick to other people with their condition. The problem arises when people with no life experience feel the need to chime in and keep repeating the same ham-fisted mantras that drown out the nuanced dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:08 PM
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“repetitive and boring” and they both just stop putting in effort and receiving effort back. Pretty sure that's due to how female sexuality tends to work, not because of women in general. On the flipside, gay men struggle with monogamy and rates of STDs in gay relationships are astronomical. Also lack of communication, immature communication, This claim is pretty baseless. higher rates of domestic violence That stat is misquoted, lesbians actually have the lowest rates of IPV. I’m just trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:09 PM
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You realise that doesn't contradict what I said at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:45 AM
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they have lots of problems, many times more than gay relationships straight couples You can't even specify which 'problems' you mean... but they are manipulative and it’s not fun to be in a relationship with them Men are more likely to be abusive in relationships than women and men are more likely to have personality disorders like NPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:24 AM
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Women 1000% and it's not even close. I really wish that wasn't the case though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:07 AM
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I don't think I've seen it as often on the women side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:04 PM
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Yeah that's definitely true but i think a huge % of the posters here will be autistic as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:23 PM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:20 PM
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From what I've seen, neurodivergence is MASSIVELY overrepresented in all these spheres. Most normal men go through life, have breakups, make mistakes in relationships and learn from them and eventually settle down with one woman. But if you're neurodivergent, especially autistic, you're missing a key 'social script' to follow and so these men tend to form echo chambers where they vent their frustrations at their lack of success with women. The bizarre robotic way in which some of the posts on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:24 PM
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You wouldn't go for a man who's singularly obsessed with you from the get go. Yeah I would? It's hot when men like you and find you attractive. Men are the ones who seem to like competing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 02:46 PM
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Again, just because you aren't having sex it doesn't mean there's literally nothing there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:38 AM
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He didn't want sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:34 AM
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No they don't work. What's a more 'artful' way to ignore someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:21 AM
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The intrigue / uncertainty in regards to whether he likes you or not or how much he likes you creates more emotions A fear of getting dumped kills romance and commitment Perceived risk of a romantic relationship ending influences the intensity of love and commitment. Can the fear of a relationship ending actually lessen love and cause a break-up? If yes, how does it happen? These were the questions that Simona Sciara and Giuseppe Pantaleo of the Vita-Salute San Raffaele University in Italy set o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:32 PM
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Ah yes a 'text relationship' even though we saw each other every 3 weeks and spent holidays together. Sure buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:46 PM
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If this guy falling under influence of a grifter who the blue pill arbitrarily declared the poster boy for the red pill was enough for her to lose all feelings for him, maybe he was never "the love of her life". Distance destroys attraction and so does manipulation. Or maybe yes, they would have been raising kids now if not for the pesky men and their false destructive ideas. Well yes, things were going well prior to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:45 PM
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as evidence that pulling away to increase someone's efforts doesn't work. Define 'work' what exactly are you trying to achieve? You self admit that it does though. At least for a while. I DON'T. God you still aren't getting it are you? It doesn't do anything positive at all. Emulating that ' distance for acceptable reasons' temporarily to attract attention allows you to then do what you wish with that attention. This is lying and textbook manipulation, what are you going to do? Claim a relative …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:37 PM
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I understand where you're coming from but i don't agree. I know this person very well, his trying to implement RP tactics was more desperation and insecurity than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:54 PM
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You still aren't getting it are you? People can become distant for a variety of reasons. Personal life stress, depression, etc. It's absolutely normal in those that the other person will seek reassurance in those that nothing is actually wrong with the relationship. That isn't building attraction or advancing a relationship at all. I became distant with friends when my grandmother died because I was grieving and understandably people began to reach out to see if I was okay. That doesn't mean me …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:53 PM
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No it didn't work. It didn't make me feel good, it didn't make me feel more attracted. It made me feel like the relationship was under some kind of negative pressure, it made me sad and anxious. Those emotions don't build relationships, they destroy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 02:43 PM
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THIS. This is exactly it, men love the chase and find it thrilling so they project that onto women and assume that we will feel the same way. Women like and get turned on feeling desired, so distance makes us lose interest. Then the men get confused that it didn't work. It's so tiring honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:57 PM
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Desperation/Low self esteem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:50 PM
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Just yesterday some woman Yeah, I'm the 'some woman' you're talking about and it didn't work on me at all. It caused intense resentment and anger and ended the relationship completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:48 PM
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This 1000%, if a guy isn't totally into me and is considering other options, then he can go for them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:46 PM
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then it heavily implies that he has options and could realize them if he wants to And why on earth would triggering a fear of abandonment create or build attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:45 PM
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Men trying to make women 'chase' doesn't work if the woman is mentally healthy. See my post, this exact shit happened and made me lose interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:42 PM
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but it sounded like you expected to be able to put the relationship on a pause and resume it whenever you felt like it. Based on what? He then learned that if you were truly passionate about him, you wouldn't have done all that bs and would have moved in and married ASAP. Move across the country where I don't have a job and just... live on the street? You LITERALLY put your job as a higher priority than your relationship with him, and then you act shocked when he re-evaluates the relationship? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 10:11 AM
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This bizarre nonsensical rambling has literally nothing to do with the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:24 AM
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Why did you move to the city of the man you called "the love of your life" with whom you had discussed (and seemed to have been anticipating) having a relationship, nay, a life with upon doing so, and why did it happen after your second, much less intense reaction to his "lets stop talking" bit? My job contract finished, I was planning on moving there anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:28 AM
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How am I contradicting myself in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:26 AM
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If he told the sewer have gold would you swim on it? So ... you think he just lied for no reason? Weird op, isn't you both supposed to be flong time friends? How does this contradict what I said? Irrelevant So when it comes to determining if someone is interested, we can't take planning an future together as a marker of interest? As opposed to what then?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 08:24 AM
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No it didn't, it left me feeling upset and uncertain which destroyed the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:30 PM
1

Did you miss the part where the interest died and never came back?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:39 PM
1

Ah yeah, so you really want to cultivate a relationship with someone who isn't mentally well. Sounds like a great idea, what could possibly go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 06:31 PM
2

What's there to be mean about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:56 PM
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You guys went on a couple dates but with no relationship We knew each other in person for years, spent every day for years talking to each other. Even when long distance, we were meeting up every 3 weeks, we spent entire weekends together. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:12 PM
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Waiting for actual thing lol. Sex, He doesn't believe in sex before marriage. kissing , physical affection.. you actually BEING there, since 10 minutes in person conversation means more than 10 months talking over phone. I went to visit him every 2-3 weeks. He didn't have anything to ruin lol, you were long distance platonic friends, and he wants a girlfriend No we weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:01 PM
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Yeah that is what I think lol. He was tired of waiting (rightfully so) Tired of waiting for what? and started dating new girl, as he should, as that was I would advise any friend to do in similar situation. He went on one date with a girl, then ended it. not using new girl to somehow hook OP back He didn't he ruined things with me for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:50 PM
2

You were not in a relationship, you were friends No, we were in a relationship. if no sex is happening then you aren't in a relationship full stop. He doesn't believe in sex before marriage, so we can't have a relationship until marriage? Lmao the stuff you guys believe honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:03 PM
1

Yes we did....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:17 PM
1

....and how does this relate to what he did?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:50 PM
1

and hadn't had sex with you yet. He didn't want to have sex with me before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:43 PM
1

he was the backup simp you planned to settle down with if you couldn't land the chad you wanted. Literally on what earth is this true? He was never a backup option, I only wanted him. Sex is very important to men. Men are sexually driven. You were text buddies, he was friendzoned. He didn't lose anything. He doesn't want to have sex before marriage, we're from a religious community. Try again. As for the "manosphere" stuff. It's not significant. You could just talk to him about it. I did talk to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:41 PM
2

Nope, he did everything right for years, we grew closer and closer until I wanted to marry and spend my life with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:03 PM
2

He cried in front of me twice, I didn't lose interest. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:02 PM
1

No, women tend to lose interest when you do shit like this. Most women don't like being manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:57 PM
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Sex is a part of it but you guys weren't even together in person, this was never much of a relationship. So in other words, two people casually sleeping together who don't know each other and aren't planning for the future are in a relationship, but me and my best friend and partner weren't? Cool. You thought you wanted to marry him and have kids, after he was orbiting for years, and also whilst you were actively choosing other commitments to being with him in person. 'Choosing other commitments…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:56 PM
1

No I didn't, I wouldn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:46 PM
1

Again, go back and actually READ the post. I lost interest because of his distance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:20 PM
1

Best friend for years and yet has to go out of his way to reach out to you. When did he have to go out of his way to reach me? What are you talking about? Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:13 PM
2

Because, as a rule, people tend to behave according to rational self-interest. And yet, I don't feel the same way anymore despite him being an objectively good option. Yet you lost attraction when he tried to play games with you (and rightly so). Yes? So this disproves the point you were making.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:12 PM
1

We were literally best friends for years and spoke every day, I don't think you've bothered to actually read the post...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:10 PM
2

Where is your proof that emotional abuse actually works?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:06 PM
1

Ah yeah, expecting him to not dread game me is proof that i only loved him for what he could 'provide'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:06 PM
1

'Friend who she wasn't that close with' I was literally planning my wedding to this man, did you even read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:05 PM
2

It would work on a mentally ill person, but a mentally healthy person? No chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:04 PM
1

Sorry to hear, would you mind if I ask what actually happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:03 PM
2

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:01 PM
2

Because if he was your best option it would have been worth fixing things. Why do you act like people are black and white robots that act like this? I'm currently single, not dating and not particularly interested in dating. This guy was pretty wealthy, handsome, tall, same background as me. I could've married and had kids with this guy and given up working, just relaxed at home with a couple kids. If you honestly believe that I don't know what to tell you. You didn't because he wasn't the best …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:50 AM
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Don't be ridiculous. How is that ridiculous? And yet you didn't. And we both know why. Because he cried in front of me over a year ago? That's actually what you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:27 AM
1

What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:55 AM
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He changed his mind clearly. No he didn't, he's still asking to date with a goal of marriage. And when women do it suddenly dread gaming is called "asserting boundaries/being respected" No, it's abusive if anyone does it. Reality of things is he doesn't think you're that much worth it and that you don't pull your own weight, either for good reasons or because he somehow convinced himself of it. No, he thought this stupid tactic would work and it backfired massively. He stupid. He's religious aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:44 AM
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it is demonstrating to them what they aren't appreciating adequately and at risk of losing if they aren't taking the relationship seriously. More cringe, women like feeling desired and this makes us feel undesired, hence the turn off. Had he not been insecure and engaged in unattractive behavior prior to attempting to "dread" you, You think him crying was 'secretly' the turn off otherwise the 'dread' would've worked? Dread only works if the guy is seen as the best option and your guy made sure h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:33 AM
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I'm just pointing out you guys were never even in a real relationship Because we never had sex? Are you kidding me? so maybe manosphere tactics don't work, but being a simp sure as hell doesn't either. Funny because in the first half of the post he was acting much more like a 'simp' and I literally wanted to marry and have kids with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:26 AM
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Yes, and he'd be miserable. HE WAS THE ONE PUSHING FOR MARRIAGE. Why is that a good thing? Do you think he'd be happy in the long run? If he ruined it with stupid tactics maybe he didn't want that and he felt that you weren't pulling your own weight I think if he'd not pulled this then yes, we could've been happy. Only you think it's about manipulation and abuse. That's literally what dread gaming is, triggering feelings of abandonment in the hopes of getting a response. The reality is you were …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:25 AM
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Dread game wouldn't work regardless, it's absolute bullshit cringe. OP. I hope it isn't lost on you that this all happened after he cried in front of you, too. What does that have to do with literally anything that I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:22 AM
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Nothing would. So the best move is to quit it. If he hadn't dread gamed me, we would've been planning our wedding. Again, I can't attest that any of this is actual "manosphere tactics". I just want to point out that break up was maybe the best strategy. Literally how? None of this had to happen. Don't come to a debate sub to complain about your life. If at least you were open to debate your situation, but no, you're clearly ego posting. Manipulating and abusing people won't make you happy in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:15 AM
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Here you are on reddit still posting about your ex that you haven't gotten over. Well of course not, I'm devastated that the relationship was destroyed because I really loved this person. Yep. Clearly they don't work If it 'worked' why wouldn't I go ahead and marry the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:14 AM
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manosphere tactics is for men to have better relationships, yours was not good to him, so it destroyed it, which is a good thing for him. This wouldn't improve the relationship in any other circumstances. Also it's a 'good thing' but he's trying to reestablish contact? You should look for relationships that fulfill your incentives. As a young man your incentives aren't only sex, but sex is a high priority. He doesn't believe in sex before marriage so no. Because some people are idiots and can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:02 AM
1

By pointing out the problem and what caused the relationship to end?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:47 AM
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What mistakes? And it's not like i haven't done my own self improvement, you just want to try and turn this around on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:45 AM
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I don't mean that as a personal attack, but if the "tactics didn't work and destroyed my relationship", maybe it worked because your relationship wasn't being good to him. How does that make any sense? The way you describe yourself and your relationship does sound a lot like you're a mediocre sexual partner. Edit: And from what I can read from your other comments, you guys weren't even having sex AKA this wasn't even a relationship and you were a lot of emotional effort for him. So unless you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:43 AM
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TRP does not recommend marriage as it makes it much harder to simply walk away. Well he's religious, he doesn't think like that. Who said he loved you anymore than his own freedom Why's he still trying then? Lmfao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:39 AM
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Or are you naive enough to think he hasn't been into you this entire time? While he was with someone else? You can plan you future, if it doesn't become reality there isn't really that much of a benefit to it. And that's his fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 09:37 AM
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Unless you plan on marrying multiple 'women' then what's the point? Destroying your relationship with someone you love to maintain power or something, yeah great win.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:42 AM
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Who said the point of the manosphere was to keep one relationship (without sex) going According to the subreddit, it's to be used to get essentially whatever you want with women, either sex or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 08:24 AM
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It's a bit late for that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:50 AM
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No, I've lost interest now. As I detailed extensively in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:46 AM
5

Well my ex was nothing like that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:41 AM
4

Did you actually read the study at the bottom half of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:40 AM
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These men are so sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:39 AM
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My IRL best friend of several years and I develop feelings for each other and because I was temporarily living away in another city for work, it's the equivalent of some online child relationship? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:18 AM
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He told me the distance between us was hurting him and wanted me to hurry and move faster, of course you make more effort when the person you love tells you that you're hurting them? But then it got too much and the interest is gone now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:13 AM
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He didn't want to even talk to you when you were long distance We were long distance for 12 months. We weren't speaking for 2/12 of those months. and he was seeing other people. He went on one date with one girl and then ended it. Telling you he that he loved you meant jack shit. I'm guessing him introducing me to all his family and friends and me spending christmas at his parents house when he'd never introduced his gf to his family before also meant jack shit? My guess is that he was never ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:12 AM
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You were never truly dating. Wow, didn't know meeting all his family his friends, spending Christmas with his family, planning our future wedding, kissing for hours and hours on end wasn't ACTUALLY a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:09 AM
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That distance took a toll on your relationship Completely destroyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:07 AM
0

You were friends Er no, we were a bit more than that. Never even had sex. And? Long distance relationships shouldn't be a thing. Well now we live in the same city, but it's all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:00 AM
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Everyone only wants what they don't have. No, just no. This is avoidant attachment and it's extremely unhealthy. Do you know when I wanted him? When I actually had him and he was warm and loving.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:57 AM
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> He wasn't interested > Told me he loved me > Invited me to meet all his family and friends, was the first girl he ever took to meet his parents over Christmas > Still talks about dating to 'work towards marriage' til present day > But he's not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:53 AM
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As the singular event? Yup, I'm not attracted to men acting distant. It's a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:48 AM
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His saying it to you definitely contributed to your losing interest Nope, him doing it made me lose interest. Too late now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:24 AM
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Look lady, I'm a former fuckboy. I've hurt girls with cold behavior before *Barf* how do you think this shit is anything to be proud of? Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:23 AM
1

The real question is whether that was actually him or whether he was putting up a front trying to get into your pants? LMAO, he's an extremely conservative christian, so erm, no. Would a truly intelligent person do something abusive to the person the care about? Would they follow relationship advice from a man from the street, a person they don't even know, who doesn't even know them? That's idiotic behavior. Yeah I think he really screwed up with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:13 AM
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I am sorry to hear of your experience OP. Based on your post and comments, it seems like you really did care for him and wanted to be with him for a long time before all of that happened. It's true, I really am sad and wish this hadn't happened. One question I do have: Was it a long distance relationship until you were able to move to his city? Yes but we did see each other every few weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:10 AM
1

He really was amazing until he started using these tactics. Thank you for your kind words <3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:00 AM
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Well I mean, after what he did I won't really be sticking around to find out..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:53 PM
9

You kept this orbitar around this long as a 'friend', then an online 'relationship' because you were prioritizing other things in life, he didn't get much there either. This 'orbitar' was my best friend for years and we were BOTH in relationships with other people. I literally started planning my future with this man until he pulled this redpill shit on me. Now it's all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:52 PM
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Are rooted in self improvement. In looking not at your past failures with emotion, but constructive criticism. To get better. Hence honing one’s process. If it really was just 'self improvement' tactics then no one would care, it's the emotional abuse I take issue with. Now your ex might not be this caliber of man. That’s fine too. He’ll either work it out for himself Well if he continues to 'dread game' women, this will only end one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:48 PM
1

seemingly insecure dude who doesn't know the first rule about fight club anyway. Whether you openly discuss them or not, this manipulative bullshit won't fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:45 PM
5

Well idk if it even will be a lesson
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:36 PM
3

'Has his shit together' what the fuck does that even mean and how does this relate to him 'homing in' his dread game tactics? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:35 PM
2

Honestly I have no idea really. I think at the moment, he's still trying to rekindle things with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:33 PM
6

then hone his process 'Hone his process' how This shit only works on mentally ill women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:29 PM
3

Out dating and flirting. Getter smoother at it He's incredibly social and charismatic, socialising has never been an issue for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:26 PM
1

"This dumbass blue pill simp, red pill Casanova wannabe, bitch-ass crying clown uncritically used some dumb shit he picked up from an Internet grifter and hurt my feelings, so red pill doesn't work!" This man was probably the best friend i've ever had and the most incredible person I ever met. He was incredibly intelligent, talented, funny, creative and extremely kind and loving. He was everything to me. But yes, emotionally abusive tactics ruin the best of relationships sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:22 PM
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You're missing the point. Healthy, mentally stable people don't respond to this. People who do respond to this kind of behavior have severe attachement issues/abandonment anxiety. I'm a pretty confident and mentally sound person and I don't appreciate stuff like this because it's shallow, manipulative and cruel. People who do respond to this aren't going to be in healthy relationships. They're going to be slashing your tires and blowing up your phone because you didn't text back in 11 minutes an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:15 PM
1

I was 'waiting by the phone' because that man was the best friend I ever had and a man i deeply loved and cared about. I didn't move cities 'for him' my contract ended so I was in a position to move to an area with better opportunities. It's easy to " move on" so long as he's chasing you. I think you missed this part right here: I'd respond right away if I did get a message… until I just didn't. Something changed and I just stopped caring. I literally moved on while he was still distant, because…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:09 PM
5

Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:02 PM
4

Read the post, clearly doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:00 PM
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Aren't you some incel shitposter? Why don't you just not date and leave women alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:58 PM
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I'm not interested in a relationship with him anymore, I'm not really interested in being his friend anymore. I'm moving on now. You implying I'm attracted to his being distant is insane given that's what tanked things in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:57 PM
9

Men are not loved unconditionally but rather by what they can provide. This is true for literally all humans, what point are you even trying to make here?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:55 PM
10

It affected my view of him yes. It made me feel close to him, we became closer friends and a week after he cried the second time, I told him I loved him. Normal humans like vulnerability and connection, crazy I know!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:51 PM
2

He shit himself when the chick who sat by the phone and worked hard to change her whole life around stopped keeping herself on the hook. Literally what on earth are you even talking about now?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:47 PM
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This guy was my best and closest friend for years, we shared every single good and bad moment with each other. He was there during the lowest points of my life, I was there for him when his dad passed away. We supported each other through break ups and gave each other dating advice (ironically lol). I knew all his secrets and he knew mine. When we were long distance, we were talking all day and night, seeing each other every 2-3 weeks for a few days at a time. The fact that you think that this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:46 PM
3

If you think this is AI then I'm genuinely horrified because I hand typed this entire thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:43 PM
4

Well 'simping' just seems to mean 'being extremely nice and affectionate' and as you can see from the first half of the post, it worked on me lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:40 PM
5

He's also cried in front of me in college when his dad died so if that was the thing you were hanging onto in order to 'prove' me wrong, sorry but you're way off. It's not that things 'didn't work out' his stupid red pill tactics destroyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:38 PM
21

About 10 months. Are you really still not giving up on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:26 PM
3

See my post.
/r/ExRedPill04/03/25 10:22 PM
2

Well if you look on the red pill subreddit, I'd say anything linked or promoted is manosphere content.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:17 PM
5

Again, still doesn't work. Cold/distant behavior signals lack of interest and will cause the other person to mirror and withdraw. It. Does. Not. Work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:16 PM
2

He didn't 'break it off' he was frustrated with the distance and asked if we could resume things after I moved because it was taking a while. Why is he still trying to contact me now then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:13 PM
21

Er, what? He cried in front of me and a week later I told him I loved him. We were planning our future together, talking every day, it was literally the happiest time. Things only went downhill and I lost interest after he became distant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:11 PM
5

Did you actually read the studies? It doesn't work and it's obvious why it wouldn't work. Even moreso for women than men because women like feeling loved and desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:06 PM
9

Clearly it did work on you. > I lost interest Please explain your reasoning. Problem is he lost interest and started actually chasing someone else. He went on one date, then ended it with her. His telling you it was some purposeful game is mostly if not all just a cover for the truth. It sounds better to say That isn't what happened, I confronted him and got him to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:03 PM
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Because the whole point was he used a 'tactic' that he learned from this manoswamp and it completely torpedoed our entire relationship. I seriously hope some men actually learn from this because it's too tragic to have all been for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:00 PM
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when you feel severely taken for granted. And why would that work exactly? If someone becomes distant to me it implies they're losing interest, so I begin to lose interest too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:55 PM
10

'Hit the gym and live healthy' is literally the backbone of every self help book/course/video imaginable. The manosphere literally promotes emotional abuse to get and keep relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:54 PM
7

He's from a religious community, as am I. We don't believe in sex before marriage so he's not going out 'getting laid' lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:53 PM
12

He's not my boyfriend now. Well I knew he watched him, but he said it was mostly because he found him 'funny'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:50 PM
4

He didn't 'ascend from the friend zone', I had no idea he had feelings for me until he told me (in person). I was miles away due to finishing a job contract, was I supposed to move to another city with no income or means of supporting myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:49 PM
12

Because there's really no overlap there at all is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:47 PM
-2

Yes, because we were both in relationships. It's not like we never ever saw each other aside from that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:45 PM
8

Losing all interest in a man practically guarantees a wedding proposal. Oh good god I hope not 🤮 Your boy learned about The Ick the hard way. Really wish it hadn't had to go this far tbh, it's so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:44 PM
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We spent years together in person in college but okay lmfao. We were only 'long distance' while my job contract finished, then I moved in under 12 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:41 PM
12

Well he claimed to have used 'dread game' on me and two other women so far, and it's failed every time. He just didn’t have enough experience. To implement tactics with enough tact, to successfully attain his desired outcome. How would 'experience' fix this? Is there a more 'skilful' way to ignore and be distant with someone? 😂 He’s on the path now. Ah yes, that explains why he's still texting me. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:37 PM
13

That's so nice to hear, I'm really glad :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:24 PM
1

A man who sleeps around is perceived as more experienced, a stud, masculine, someone who gets women etc. It's the opposite of how a virgin male is perceived. I don't perceive it that way at all lmao, it's insanely gross. A woman who settles down with a man who's slept around gets to be the "one", as she's the one he chose in the end. The 'one' at the end of a long line, who would be happy about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:35 PM
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