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Rejection, exploitation, humiliation Imagine if you couldn't retreat back to being approached only. Imagine if it was required by you to just fend off those feelings every time, without building any resentment against the group that's handling it to you and keep trying until you succeed with your confidence somehow remaining intact all this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 07:15 AM
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They are called perverts and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:53 AM
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I envy the fact men don’t settle Apex fallacy. The top ones are indeed do whatever they want. The rest just take the women they can get, not necessarily the ones they want. ​ Men will move on quickly. Not true. A simple search will show you that most studies suggest the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:48 AM
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I envy that they’re stronger in general I guess If that helps, think that this fact backfires in some situations. Men go to war, men do hard physical labour and the majority of the dangerous jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 08:37 AM
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I see your point. However, if TRP has negative effects, what's the healthy alternative for young men who struggle in dating and want some guidance? Tell me the healthy equivalent of TRP, a set of ideas, guidelines and morals that work and are solely focused on men and their reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 05:45 PM
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Most men, if they really try to work on themselves can be passable lovers with whom a woman can have a good time and orgasm Is this really something they can really try to work on themselves? Don't they need a woman with they can practice, see what works and learn? It needs more than one person to do sex. Selfish people aside, the harder is for men to get sex, the harder is for them to become better at doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:13 PM
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Lack of communication because of pride. Both of men and women do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 09:03 PM
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but bc his ego got pumped up, i'm not goign around boosting people's ego ever again. That was what I was talking about. You only tried it once and you immediately started hating initiating and approaching first. And since you are a woman you are having the safe option of coping out of it without reducing your dating prospects by much. But how about do it 10 more times and see how you feel? Wouldn't you start becoming frustrated? You are not a robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:42 AM
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It is not entitlement to your bodies per se. Frequent rejection causes desperation which in turn leads to resentment and poor behavior. Desperation and unwise actions/behavior go hand to hand in many other situations, not only in dating. Guys who can handle rejection gracefully usually have some "wins" here and there. Wouldn't be better if women would be willing to share the burden of approaching and rejection and not leaving all that to men? That way women would also feel more sympathetic to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 10:40 AM
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Tough shit Yeah, there is the problem. People by nature do not do "tough" things if there is an easy alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:30 AM
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Promote socialisation irl. Revive the neighbourhood/village communities, so that people would socialise irl with the people that are physically nearby. And what if your village/community is full of people you don't vibe? Online socialization gives you access to magnitudes more people than those of your neighborhood, and also since socialization now is a sellable service (sharing travelling experiences, dancing moves, opinions in exchange of money donations or # of subscriptions), why would anybo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 07:16 AM
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to cutoff the friend immediately You cannot cut off a friend like that, if she is a real friend and you truly love her as a person as well. There's no easy solution to this kind of situation unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:31 PM
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But you can also develop romantic feelings after becoming a friend. It's very normal to end up seeing a person you love and trust as a romantic candidate eventually even if you didn't in the beginning of the friendship. It's not all about ulterior sexual motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 06:52 AM
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Do you genuinely like that girl if you are "spinning platers" with others at the same time? I believe that when you really like someone, she is the only person in your mind at that time and all the others feel unattractive to you even if they are objectively not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:42 AM
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Imagine talking about women like you're exchanging batteries on your remote controller. That's modern dating market. Sames goes for the men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 07:34 AM
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I need her permission first. Not gonna lie, she has very high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 12:50 PM
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To be fair, no one should adopt a cat or a dog for the sole reason of becoming more attractive to the opposite sex. A pet needs care, attention and time, which is sounds rather counter-productive when you are looking for a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:15 AM
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Doesn't work. 😕 Source: Me, a cat owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:03 AM
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That's a perfect list.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 07:23 AM
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I make an excellent carbonara!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/22 06:21 PM
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This is true. The problem is that this phenomenon is rarely tagged as a "negative", as something women (and men) have to look and reflect upon and it's well protected behind terms like "not settling" and "preferences".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 01:04 PM
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Thanks OP. You too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:53 AM
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I suppose yes, did not hear that exact word though. Was about 13-14 years old and asked a girl to dance with me in a party. She only spent a second replying "eww" to me before returning to her conversation with her friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:29 PM
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I kiiiinda get your point. Or at least what you are trying to convey. White Pill could also be the one person who, even though fully aknowledges that the red pill (or even the black pill) provide way more accurate insight about the modern dating scene than the blue pill, they still believe there is no point in participating in this game and let themselves be consumed in that highly transactional aspect of dating since is fundamentaly toxic. So they decide to follow the more romantic, kind and ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 09:01 AM
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To give priority to the things that really matter. To be fair, to be nice, to be compassionate, to be selfless but also stand up for herself. She should never ever let anybody take advantage of her. I'll teach her to be independent. I'll teach her to think out of the box, I'll teach her to always question the things she is learning, even what I am teaching her. She can do whatever she wants with her freedom, but I'll try to teach her to think first and then act. I'll try to teach her fundamental…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:23 AM
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While this is accurate, you have to see that ruling was mostly a matter of class rather than gender/sex. A specific group of men had held all the power for all the history, Kings, Royalty, Popes, Bishops, Presidents and Businessmen. The vast majority of men throughout the history had zero say in how the world was and is running. They were used as slaves and soldiers like women were used primarily as birthing machines and assets. It didn't make any difference for them the fact that they were rule…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 05:48 PM
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I never wanted to say yes because I didn't know if I'd miss out on someone better Damn. It's so disheartening to hear such a clear admission of that. 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:55 PM
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Not every man, but at least they can give a real one to the ones they choose. You need time to know someone, and if you are obsessively look out for negatives you are going to find them, because men are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 05:00 PM
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I don't agree that men can give better advice to women than their women counterparts. Some things you just need to have lived through them yourself to completely understand them. However I believe that men and women should sometimes watch coaching videos targeted to the opposite sex. It could help them to practice some self- reflection, understand the major problems and struggles the other side faces and then use that information to help themselves to become better in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:59 PM
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I'd say the majority would go for rejected over personality rather than looks. You?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 03:28 PM
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We need the same thread for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 12:10 PM
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I see your point. However I don't think this behavior is pathetic, actually I find it quite normal. By definition it is very hard to become a top-tier man or a top-tier anything otherwise everyone would just do that. So the notion that only top-tier men deserve the majority of women's genuine attention and romantic affection, and in any different scenario the woman "has settled" is obviously something that doesn't sound right. Most of us are average and that fact is never going to change. Some i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 10:07 AM
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Even if “mediocre women” felt entitled to “top tier men”, why do you care so much who women are attracted to? Come on. Because it directly affects their dating prospects too. We all live in the same planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:19 AM
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You are describing exactly how a healthy relationship should be. This is not a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:37 AM
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Every human is responsible for their own mental well being and for dealing with their own trauma. This is not exactly how a society works. There is self-responsibility sure, but society as a construct also has a responsibility to help those groups by providing help and trying to tackle the causes of those kinds of trauma. This is the fundamental reason why we formed societies, to help each other. One of the biggest problems men face nowadays, is that despite women's problems tend to become socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:45 AM
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I believe you complete ignore or underestimating the "waiting" years and their toll that they have in a "bb" man. What will be the mindset of such a man? What if he is not that experienced in interacting with women? What if he is not a robot and has built resentment all those years he was facing only rejection from women? What if he is sexually inexperienced by the time a woman wants to commit with him, while she is way more experienced? Will she "teach him" at his 30s? What if he suddenly wants…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:13 AM
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You are misinterpreting it. Quantity of requirements is a different dimension to how high are the standards in a specific requirement. It's indeed 50% for women but their standards at this specific part of the equation may still be higher. In the following overly simplistic example: men have 100% looks as their only requirement, women have more requirements (50% looks, 25% personality, 25% wealth) and in the common one with men (looks in this case), they also have higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:04 AM
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That was a very good piece of advice. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:42 PM
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Just a way to remember to take my medication while I'm reading this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:54 AM
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I would be surprised at first, but then I would really appreciate it. It takes a lot of courage to face rejection, something I suspect most women are not used to, at least in the initiating phases of dating. But I'm afraid I am in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:16 AM
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I respect your opinion but I disagree. I don't believe that women can be accurately portrayed as that stereotyped entity with such limited conversational capacity. That goes against what I have experienced in my life so far. The women you've described is probably a small subgroup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:27 PM
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I don't believe you can really control being attracted to someone or catch romantic feelings, unfortunately. However you can control your actions and don't pursue it as you said. It is not something you can blame a side, yourself or the friend of course. It can just happen and usually it is a very unfortunate situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:44 PM
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Unless one day you catch feelings for one of them. If it isn't reciprocated then it's a real emotional torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:25 PM
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I see your point. I just wanted you to know that a man can lie about that thing not because he wants to deceive his partner per se, but because he doesn't want to embarrass himself and make himself vulnerable to jokes and ridicule.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:20 AM
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Yes. And women from men too. Most couples have sex relatively early in the relationship, they don't wait for years. Trust needs time to build, and for having sex especially, as a man you have the burden to be sex-ready at any time, you can't afford to refuse sex because "you do not feel ready/you don't trust her enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:14 AM
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Literally the purported reason for lying is to increase your chance of having sex w her. I'd say the primary reason is not to get embarrassed, ridiculed, hurt and have your confidence completely wiped out, especially after some age. It's that hard to believe that men are people?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:36 AM
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This forum is similar to political debate shows/panels where both sides are more interested in "Gotcha" moments than actually finding common ground. The whole world seems to operate like that though. Everyone cares only about validation and being "correct", and not about actually solving the issues even if that means you have to dedicate some time about issues of a social group you don't belong to, no matter how unsignificant you may think they are. "You are not entitled to...", "It's your probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:40 AM
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Cheating affects both men and women. It can be very devastating to women too. About the physical aspect, a difference may be that when a man cheats, the blame goes 100% to him, he is the asshole, a liar and a pig like many men, the sex that -as our culture's constantly reminding us- cheats. On the contrary, when a woman cheats, rather than putting the blame on her completely as they should, men tend to also doubt themselves and have thoughts that their women simply found someone better. They bel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:24 AM
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Because this is a competition and we discuss about "who has it worse".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:48 PM
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Yes, like child circumcision. I don't understand this kind of reply, since boys having parts of them mutilated when they are babies, there is no problem in regulating womens' bodies too rather than, I don't know, ban boy's circumcision until they can decide for themselves, allow abortions and in general having people be the ones who decide about their own bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:34 PM
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Yeah, I mean why would anybody be upset about having others make decisions about their own bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:27 PM
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hit the gym How is this low "maintenance"? Men must watch both their diet and go to the gym vs women who must watch their diet only. Are you currently going to the gym 5 days per week? Do you think it is easy to start? This is like saying "change your lifestyle". Also, what if your hair started falling? What nice haircut you would get then? There is a reason why you see many more beautiful women than handsome men. Women have way more and -most importantly- instantly applicable ways to enhance th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 01:05 PM
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Because, without blaming women -which, let's be honest, is not rare in many posts here- it reveals a core reality in boys and men's lives that affects their psyche, defines their existence and explains many things about their behavior and motives. If there was a post here a woman should read (in good faith) to understand something important about men and their lives, that would be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 12:35 PM
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Men seen as disposable in modern society (perhaps the best post on the subreddit) https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/mgjzt0/are\_men\_inherently\_seen\_as\_disposable\_by\_society/ That was an excellent post.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 05:55 AM
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Its not about not showing emotions to women, its about showing that you don't need their help to deal with them. Partners are supposed to help each other. It's not shame to admit you need help sometimes. You can't have a plan for everything and everyone needs help at some point. If you ask for her help and she somehow loses attraction for you then she isn't worth it. She is in just for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:28 AM
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I am so hoping to become a dad one day, with my own babies. But in case I would marry a single mom, yes I would definitely try to act as a father to her children, especially if they were young. I know and believe that in general it's better for children to grow with 2 parents than one, so it would be the best for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 08:13 AM
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Thanks for clarifying. I apologize, I totally misunderstood what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:13 AM
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and have very little to offer in terms of, well, anything really Could I ask how can you be so sure about that? Sure, their method of approaching is certainly not right, but how are you so sure that they have zero value as partners? Few people are really worthless at anything and for many, it is their desperation that does hide their positive traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:01 AM
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Or we could make changes on how we raise our boys and focus on men mental's health problems and support for once? On a side note, it will always be dumbfounding how easily you just say "give'em guns". On this side of the ocean only specially trained people legally own and use guns, so applying your solution here would require every woman to have to follow a training program, kinda like the mandatory military service some european countries still have.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 07:26 AM
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I know that you are saying all of these stuff in good faith but it's not enough to just have ambitions and will to improve yourself. Much depend on what are those ambitions and things you are trying to improve. For example, can I replace "strength training" with "solving 1500-piece puzzles", because that's what I feel is to be my best self? Or my purpose could be to build an application that helps disabled people. That's my goal. Will a woman find me while I'm busy focusing on these things? Be h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 09:11 PM
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How can a guy make women feel sexual? There's no straight answer for that. There's no technique or guidelines or anything that can help you. You simply do or do not. Source: Me, the type-1 guy, who needs time to get comfortable but there's never enough time for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 05:41 PM
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Change my mind Experience. Imagine if you finally sort your life by the time you are 30 (finally a great job or a couple of phds) but you don't have any experience in any form of intimate relationship. Does that sound okay to you? Even the bad relationships have many things to teach you about how relationships work, what problems may arise and about the challenges of being with another person and having his/her needs next to yours. You forget that getting into a relationship is a way of maturing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 07:38 AM
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is supposed to be a side effect of when men are doing something right in their life I the reverse valid? Does that mean that if you are not getting women's attention, you are not doing something right in your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:04 AM
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They are bad because I am really struggling to convince women to date and the few dates I'd managed to have didn't end up in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 02:25 PM
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Then yes. My experiences in dating are bad enough that I would be willing to take that risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 04:28 PM
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Probably yes, granted I was still going to live in a western society which is- supposedly?- trying to tackle those things. The chances are that the sum of this transaction would be positive for me. Something that it is going to make a good impact in my daily life is worth of the risk of something that is probably not going to happen, or at least the worst of it is not going to happen. Think it like you are trading not having a car with actually having the car with the increase of risk of dying i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 07:49 PM
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Wouldn't by that time be too late since they would be disqualify themselves because of inexperience? How many times you have hard women say "I don't wanna be his teacher" or something similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 11:43 AM
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OP: It's now men's turn to have their worth only be their looks. Also OP: Men should step up their jobs. Other than looks, women are looking for men that can provide very high financially. Can we at least wear makeup, jewellery and generally instantly applicable things to enhance our looks other than going to the gym every day?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 12:17 PM
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I do believe you when you say it wasn't special. (Mind that many people tend to eventually appreciate even these moments when they get older). More importantly, as you said you learned, so those experiences were part of what made you the person you are today. They are. That means that missing these moments, not experiencing anything, having no previous experience to guide you the next time, may halt your growth as a person. And as you grow older, you have less and less time and energy to make up…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:12 PM
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It didn't work out good for me. I was so focused on studying that no guidelines were given to my proper socialization with my peers and especially the opposite sex ones. I didn't know what to do and how to act with women. I became a shy person and this is completely harmful especially if you are a man, since women aren't the ones who make the first step. I'm still struggling with dating, thankfully not that much but precious time was lost. I never got to live the love, the flirt and the relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:11 AM
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Nothing. They assumed life will find a way that finding a partner would come naturally to me, like all the "others", without me trying much. They were more focused on me getting good grades and education.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 10:58 AM
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I believe the OP's point is the fact that if your mind didn't constantly remind you that you have that text to reply, it is an indication that you don't care (romantically) much about the sender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:31 AM
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I'll just say that in some species, males literally risk their lives to mate. Many male mammals compete against other ones in brutal fights for a chance in reproduction. In some insects, intercourse may lead to death and cannibalization by the female. That would just tell how strong is this force, the sexual drive. So yes, biological reason's surely play a big role. However (and thankfully), the vast majority of the men can control it albeit some find it a bit harder than some others since it ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 04:21 PM
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Of course it is. How can it not be?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 09:48 AM
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Because it's the only thing the individual can do. But happiness also depends from things that a person may not control.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:04 PM
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I believe that in real life, where there is always the *danger* of having to interact back, most women would not want "unwanted attention" aka attention from men who are physically unattractive to them. On social media, not only a woman sits safely behind a screen without having to interact in person but attention quantifies to numbers (likes, followers, donations etc) and thus is mainly always welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:56 AM
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Only* on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:40 AM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:24 PM
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Can't you just pause it and come back to it at a more appropriate time? It's like people get so engrossed in make believe that they forget about reality. To be fair online games cannot always get paused. Imagine if in a lobby of 20 players, anyone of them could pause the game anytime he wanted. And about the second point, immersion is indeed one of the factors a good game can excel in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:47 PM
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For the majority of women who hate it is simply because it's a very common addiction in men. For some fellas, gaming is literally their only hobby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 02:23 PM
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There were more society "norms" that women have rebel against and sometimes succesfully overturn but curiously enough they appear to not try to do the same in this situation at all. I believe that is not because of the years of social conditioning or anything else but simply because they like the way it is since it is not unfair for them, it is unfair for men. Women do not approach men because it requires much effort and there's is always the danger of getting rejected. It is that simple. Anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 09:48 AM
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"Less success" is a bit different than "repeated failure". Men like the ones OP described tend to the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:17 PM
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Because they misinterpret it. It's actually emotional connection AND physical attractiveness. "AND" as the boolean operator as it needs both requirements for something to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 03:12 PM
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This. The answer is that simple indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 09:01 AM
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The overwhelming majority of the oppressors (and their victims) throughout the history are long dead. So you can stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 02:20 PM
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whether you're a nerdy virgin or sleeps around all the time in college. You are an outlier. You happened to be lucky enough to have friends that were outgoing and brought you to social events enhancing your ability to meet people. Usually nerds have nerd friends and way less chance to find "their people".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 08:38 AM
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Bottling up feelings does that since there are not many "acceptable" or available outlets for men to express them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 09:44 AM
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Because it's very punishing (socially) when you are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 06:18 AM
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I'd say that the most obvious privilege is that you are able to get help way easier if you are a woman. People trusting you way easier definitely helps. If you are a man you are indoctrinated to believe that you should find a solution on your own. Your value depends on that. One more is that is acceptable for a woman to choose to avoid confrontation and danger in extreme situations (granted she is able to have a say which is not always the case). Men are almost always labeled as "cowards" if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 05:09 PM
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Yes, you'd laugh at him with something he is insecure about. Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 08:05 AM
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Men have to realise that women are people too. Both of those who undervalue, underestimate and mistreat a female person and those who believe that are angelic creates and put them in a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:14 AM
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I would like most women to stop believing that men's lives are like women's lives without any of the problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:00 AM
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Yeah it’s your responsibility… why should any woman waste time on a dude who can’t please her, bitches about it and finds ways to rationalize his failure in his head as being her fault? Wasting time? Dude you are portraying women like they are completely insensitive and selfish beings, who consider men as pleasure inducing machines that they can discard like a dissatisfied consumer if they don't "perform" well. Yes, there are women who think like that and like the men who care only about themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:32 PM
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What if he is/was unable to get any dates? What if he was rejected by potential partners not once but in a constant basis? How would you manage that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:37 AM
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Interesting. Can you think what would you teach your son about women if you had one? I assume some things would be the same, but what would be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 07:30 AM
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For most people there's a fine line between aiming for something small and having no long-term goals. Wanting to live a stable and quiet life with my low-cost hobbies (even if it's gaming, coloring figurines or assembling puzzles) can interpreted as having no ambitions by some other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:55 AM
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Bodily autonomy is a basic human right and is unnegotiatable. To be honest, it's tricky and right now I have no something specific in mind. But just because you and I can't think of anything right now, doesn't mean that we shouldn't have that conversation. I'm thinking that it doesn't have to be a "sexual" advantage, but it has to be something to balance the advantage of the woman in this situation. Usually if group A has something group B wants, accommodate Group B to develop something group A …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:00 PM
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Women's sexual leverage advantage is real. Since we are living in societies we are forming rules and regulations to restrict -as much as we can- group advantages over other groups. For example we have defined that if someone stronger than you, overpowers you and steals your money, this is a crime. He can't do it because he simply can do it. It is unfair and we have made a social rule against it to counter it. We have also dictated that people with much money pay more for taxes for the same servi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 10:45 AM
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Never settle but also have realistic expectations. A mature person can do both.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 07:08 PM
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Do you still feel as horny? Believe it or not, many would prefer it over being totally invisible and not having sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:15 PM
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Very unfortunate use of "literally".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:45 AM
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You mean that 0,01% of men started the fighting and killing. And yet, you do not see any problem with the rest of 99,99% of men dragged to war as you do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 08:20 AM
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Dude have you started balding? That's a real reason to worry, not the first-world problem equivalent of whether a haircut is okay or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:42 AM
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or seriously worry about my hair If you are man, you are the sex that should seriously worry about your hair. Also, a woman's body is pregnancy is changed and that's 100% normal, there is a natural reason why do those changes happen and it's to accommodate birth. Just because it doesn't abide with the beauty standards of a slim and perfect figure doesn't mean it's "damaged".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:07 AM
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Knows how to fight and protect Martial arts? Military training?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 09:12 PM
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Thank you very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:46 PM
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I have a friendship with a great woman who I love very much. Unfortunately, I grew intimate feelings for her but I am trying to fight them back. It has affected me positively, she is one of the reasons I can clearly see and understand the challenges of being a woman nowadays. What I like in this friendship comparing to my male friends one, is that she geniunely asks me the "how are you?" It feels comfortable to discuss with her about our mental state, general mood and health.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 12:45 PM
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Isn't there any chance she would find boring the places where a man feels confident and comfortable? For example most people feel that way in their own home. Or what if someone would get her to a stadium to watch a soccer match? Or in a cinema?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:50 AM
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Yeah, but if we limit assets to genes and procreation, a woman who doesn't want to have children is automatically less valuable to one (with similar set of skills, looks etc) who wants to have children or already has. This is what you imply. Also the fact that perceiving a pregnant woman having "damaged" her body is problematic. The body changes in pregnancy and this is something normal, it's not damage. You are damaging your body when you are smoking or drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 08:09 AM
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True. However, it's way easier to be content when this is a choice rather than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 08:13 AM
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Men can start balding even at age 17-18 though. It's not about age as much as is genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 09:24 AM
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Boyfriend material = he's decent looking and has the qualities I would prefer to have in a long term partner because he does not, in fact, suck as a human being Or he is "not decent looking". Isn't boyfriend/husband material a matter of personality? How good, affectionate, empathetic and lovable person he is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:52 AM
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But I value my personal safety from being sexually assaulted, raped or murdered more than the feelings of strange men. I can understand that. Really. And you are not sexist, not at all. But imagine hearing that "Despite that, being brave and just is more important than your safety" and welcome to the life of men who are expected to live that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:14 AM
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So exactly.... What did you want us to police? You could police other women in social circumstances when they berate and dismiss men's problems or when they completely shut down any chance of discussing them under the guise of "it's patriarchy so it's men's fault anyway". You could police women when they automatically assume a man is dangerous under the pretense of "better safe than sorry" which is the same mindset that causes other discriminative behaviors like islamophobia or prejudice against…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:50 AM
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I am not trying to argue with you. I was trying to bring some insight to what men could really fear (according to my opinion at least). In such a case, men's fears are usually be discarded by "boohoo he can't get sex" or "it's your fault" comments but in reality there are many underlying problems behind this. In the end this is what many men fear; devaluation, stigma of being dangerous/creep and social isolation. As there some thing men cannot understand about women's life, there are things that…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:10 AM
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Men are scared.. That they won't get sex? That they'll be isolated from the society and live a slow death as outcasts, in loneliness and complete devaluation as a person that the absence of sex and partners can bring to them. It's way deeper than just "can't get his dick wet".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:50 AM
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Yes. They did. No, they didn't do it out of hate for women or some sexist reason as you imply. I remind you that if there were no laws at all and we were like animals aka "only the stronger prevails", women would need to be literally slaves to the stronger males to survive. ​ And yet there were laws, created by men, specifically designed to keep women chained to men The laws were specifically designed to keep the society running in terms of the 1% of the people who were holding the power at any …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:03 AM
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I don't know how to tell him... "Yaaas King never settle".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:56 AM
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Are you agreeing with my comment or trying to do the usual male self victimizing act? Neither. Have you ever noticed that a safe way to insult a man is to make a joke about his masculinity? I'm trying to tell you that the fear of losing your masculinity is not about losing the extraordinary benefits it provides per se but rather the complete devaluation as a person that this could bring. As it is now, value and masculinity are way more connected for men than is feminity for women. I am not telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:52 PM
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Masculinity has more benefits than femininity so men have every reason to fear losing it. It has way more negative consequences for men if they lose it/don't have it and that's why men have every reason to fear in such a case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 07:30 AM
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I know I’d rather be alone. That's the thing with loneliness. The more time you are staying alone, the more you crave companionship even if it's temporary like the situation you described. And at least you are getting some living experience in the second situation, some lessons to be learnt. Being always alone is practically being like a ghost.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:43 AM
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That. Fat percentage is a more useful metric than weight in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:36 AM
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Welcome to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 10:20 AM
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Making sure he feels safe with me and can use me as a sounding board for his thoughts and feelings. Always being there for him when he needs me and encouraging him to take care of himself According to many wise sages in the forums here, you should not do that because you are not "his therapist" or "his mom". According to me, you are an awesome partner. I hope he is doing the same thing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 05:47 PM
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Yeah, in general, mental stable people do not put their health in danger deliberately just because other people pay for them. It's not a "hell yeah I get it for free from suckers who pay for me" situation. It's about their health we are talking about. Would you rather be poor and have free healthcare or one who has money but have to pay for the healthcare of others? If you choose the second option do you really feel like the "loser" one? We are having discussions about how we can live in the civ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 06:34 PM
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You aren't being attacked. If my post made you feel that way, I apologise. Nonetheless, I hope we'll hear the orginal replier's opinion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:46 PM
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For women, there's more than just the physical appearance. Doesn't "more than just the physical appearance" mean that a good physical appearance is not enough at its own and women usually check other things too, not that it doesn't play any role? Anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:30 PM
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His physical appearance? I mean that's the first thing that should come to your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:21 PM
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There's something creepy with keeping ex's nudes. If they were photos of a good trip in a foreign country or something else like a good t-shirt that she had once given you as a gift, I guess most women would not have a big problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:52 PM
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Perhaps sex with him? You don't need him to have money because you have your own. That's closer to the male thinking but it kinda makes some sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:42 PM
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Pregnancy is not an excuse to be lazy though. Women when they are pregnant they can get lazy too and gain way more weight than they should have normally had.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:35 PM
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Why is it hypocritical to want something that is different from yourself? Sometimes, it depends whether you are the person who is benefited or you are the one who is making the compromise. I mean let's switch the question: "Is it hypocritical when a fit person wants a partner that is not fit?" to "Is it hypocritical when a non-fit person wants a partner who is fit?" or "Is it hypocritical when a non-rich person wants a partner who is rich?". Someone could argue that they are hyprocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 08:23 AM
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Never. I hate cheaters, men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:03 PM
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A lot of people have been sold a mindset by society that they need a partner to be happy but it simply isn't true There is a logical misstep here, I hope you see it: The fact that they have been sold a certain mindset doesn't mean that it's the sole and only reason why they want a partner. Many people need a partner (or their family) because that is genuinely what they want , regardless if society endorses it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:12 AM
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You do not need a partner in life to be happy. You just don't. Who? You? Me? Bob? Something that makes you happy doesn't mean that will make someone else happy. And the opposite. If I don't need one thing to be happy, it doesn't mean that's the case for everyone else. Some people need a partner in life or children to feel complete, content and happy. They are different. It's not that hard to grasp, come on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:46 AM
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Personally, I workout and lift to have an attractive body. Exercises in gym are based on repetition (along with progressive weight) and that makes them extremely boring. I would rather read a book, play cards, basketball or a tabletop or a video game rather than going to the gym but I discipline myself to do it purely to look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 08:56 AM
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Then I'm sorry that you have been so unlucky and you have met only the worst kind of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:58 PM
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That is simply not true. I'm sorry you believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:52 PM
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Yes, I do, I am a man and I'm saying that you are selectively choosing the worst of them to sabotage the discussion. It's ridiculous to suggest that the average man believes or describes having sex as something bad, insulting or derogatory to women. Neither do the majority of women I hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 12:49 PM
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you have dudes who want to stick their dicks inside of you I really like when most people describe sex from men's point of view they deliberately becoming raw and rude to showcase it in a bad light. If you had written "It just means you have men who want to have sex with you" which is the phrase you should have used, it would seem too normal and not bad at all, but you know that the power of your argument lies solely on deliberately describing as a bad thing and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 07:42 AM
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As a big dude (6'2-6'3, 230 and relatively fit) I've literally never once done something for the purposes of being "dominant". I just kinda chill and go about my business. That's a privilege and most of the times people are blind to it when they have it. I am 6'1 but if I was 5'6 or 5'7, I wouldn't "just go about my business" without encountering instances in my dating -or even career- life where my height would be a disadvantage or hiderance in being perceived as dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 07:56 AM
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Yes, I do (34M). I'd love to have had family by now but unfortunately I couldn't find a person that would like to do that with me. It may be anecdotal and not at all the norm, but I have never ever met a person that has regretted having kids so far. It really feels like the natural course of life, at least to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 04:51 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. If you want a truly meaningful relationship you have to eventually focus on that person and trust that he/she will do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 06:58 AM
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i mean it is a solution ? what exactly is it that makes Western women bad? Not "bad" but they have higher standards and they prefer to stay single rather than settling, which is pretty reasonable. Women abroad, especially from eastern cultures, have way lower standards. Marrying an american man could very well lead her (and her future children) to a better life, something you can't say that for the american women who by the way find the majority of the local men undesirable. So a guy, even if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 06:47 PM
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Usually the rule, not the exception. We are all mindlessly using cars to get us to our destination fast despite the obvious threat of dying or getting injured in a car accident.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:24 AM
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I'm just saying that rejection isn't as bad as immature incels make it seem Continuous rejection is bad. It adds up and it affects your confidence, your mood, your productivity and your life. It could lead you to depression. Everyone who's living in a human body should be able to understand the toll of repeated failure. Moreover, concerning dating, if you are a young man, it makes you very vulnerable to dangerous manosphere ideologies because they "are the ones who understand your pain". Invalid…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 02:23 PM
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If I want to be completely honest, I'm doing only because I want to look good. I know there are other benefits too (health, etc) and I know that some people genuinely enjoy it but I personally find the gym extremely boring for my mind. I just can't go an hour without my brain engaging with something unless I discipline myself. (Plus, since the only hours I can go is late at night and that affects my sleep).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 10:55 AM
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Good/normal women are not put off by a man showing "weakness" I would agree that good/normal women do not give up on their man when he shows weakness but "being put off" is rather involuntary. There's a chance she may put off by him but she will not show it because she rationally concludes this is not the right thing to feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 09:30 AM
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Stop being attracted to looks. Be attracted to someone for their personality first. Looks are the first thing you see. You can't be attracted by someone's personality first.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 08:59 AM
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But no one can evict you from your own house because you own it. I also don't live in the USA but don't you guys sign contracts when you rent an apartment? In my country as long as you pay the rent, the owner cannot just evict you if the agreed contract period of time has not ended. There aren't laws that protect the renters in USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 12:26 PM
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Lmao. Niiiice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 04:18 PM
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If anything, the majority of men have no excuse for not being exceptional now, when they did in the past (field slave example) so I ask: Why are the vast majority of men born into developed, first world countries in the 20th and 21st century still not exceptional? Still not innovators. Still not leaders. Still not exceptionally ambitious. Still not above average in intellect or drive or will? Because while the biggest minds are building a particle collider in cern you need also hands to carry eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 07:49 AM
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Come on. Who's sexier than us engineers? (funny answers only)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 10:14 PM
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A chance? Sure, as long as you have the time and you remember that the other person is a person with feelings and not an npc, why not. I can understand the other people opinions about wasting time but frankly you can't live under the fear of "wasting my time" all the time. Try new things, you never know how it could go and most importantly you never know what you can learn. Personally, there's not a single thing I've tried and haven't learn something from it, even if it didn't work in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:02 AM
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i never do it because it’s scary and if i’d get rejected it would hurt my feelings too much for me to take the risk. Thank you for being honest. You don't know how many excuses I have heard from women regarding this issue, saying everything than simply admitting the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:30 AM
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Low. High libido causes greater problems overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 05:25 PM
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Marriages are business contracts. It’s wise to make sure you’re protected in case the marriage collapses I honestly believe that if you view marriages like that, it's simply better to never marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 11:27 AM
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Τhat men like to take the lead Some men do, most of them don't like it. Approaching someone first is the hard thing to do, the one with the risk of rejection, so most of the people (men and women) would both prefer to get approached. It is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 08:55 AM
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Fair enough! XD
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 08:06 AM
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It doesn't suck that much, come on. If you were short and unfit, chances are you would attract not introverted and quiet women but nobody.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:52 AM
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I agree gaming sucks, but I have met maybe three women in 40 years that had interesting hobbies. Most women have cookie cutter interests and hive mind opinions. (Personal opinion) I believe that there are two main kinds of gaming. The massive multiplayer ones where you pitted against other players and kill them/respawn and rinse & repeat which is a complete waste of time. But there are some single-player games that are true masterpieces, tell great stories, portray lovely characters and convey e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:23 AM
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This. The amount of ridiculous excuses they make up to not admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 08:33 PM
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It didn't expose anything. We are constantly having discussions about what men have to do to be attractive to women (and never the opposite) and safety and financial stability is mentioned multiple times as one of them. Is it it so strange that men who are not attractive in any other way many times despite their best efforts, will try -in their desperation- to attract women based on those qualities? Edited the last part because why bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:42 AM
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So what do you suggest for guys who are not naturally good with women. Die alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 05:17 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/21 04:25 PM
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I am very bad. First, nobody taught me how to "game". Second, I'm an overly analytical person who wants to know the rules beforehand and I want them to be clear, especially when it's a "game". I can deal with situations based on reason, not emotion. Third, I'm very self aware. In the middle of chatting with a woman that I just approached, my brain sometimes goes:"Dude, you are currently putting up a performance like this is an theater act or something. And she's going to give you some sort of ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 09:21 AM
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People prefer texting for some reason, mostly because its more convenient and they can do other things while communicating. It's also because you can take your time to think your replies. You can't just pause for 5 minutes in the middle of a phone conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/21 08:56 AM
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Yes. It's harder to find a boyfriend/girlfriend if you are ugly than if you were not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 06:25 PM
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So, wouldn't a more valid post/question to a women be "What are some things you believe a man can do to be attractive to most women even if that doesn't include you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:51 AM
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I don't say you'd be happy to see him fail, I'm surprised that you appear so unwilling to help your hypothetical son. A couple of interactions in a forum and you decided that he has to get it over himself rather than giving him help by taking him to therapy. It really sounds like you would have given up on him in that scenario. The problem is not only what boys are being taught, but sometimes what they do not. In your example, yes, they probably have been taught to be nice to women, but we would…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/21 12:08 AM
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Men have unbelievable confidence Yeah, men are not hivemind. There are many men who literally forget how to speak in front of a beautiful woman. There are men who are shy and don't approach women or they try to become friends first. It's amazing how invisible that kind of men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 03:25 PM
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Based on my experiences here, I honestly don’t believe the red pill is something you can just talk someone out of. You would decide about your son's future based on an online forum? Based on what some random jerks have written here? You don't mean that. And what if that "phase" ends too late and he ends up alone and miserable? "Serves him right?" No sane parent would say that. Seriously, it's all "teach your sons to be decent, respect women, do that etc" but when the time to put it in practice c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:00 PM
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(14-18 ) Pray it’s just a phase and it will naturally resolve itself Doing nothing = being a shitty parent. You are his mother/father and he's your boy, the one who was saying how much he was loving you back when he was a small kid. It's your duty to help him. Get him to therapy asap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:44 PM
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be pleasant to be around, make the guy feel desired and appreciated Let me ask you, don't you have the same expectations in a guy too? You don't want to feel desired and appreciated by him ? You don't want him to be a pleasant person? Seriously, if you are pleasant to be around and make your partner feel good automatically means you are his/her servant and you forfeit your wishes and you never argue? What kind of mindset is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 08:43 AM
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All the contributing factors (pesticides, porn, microplastics) affect women to so not sure it would contribute to people being less attractive? Well if we believe the various research, things like microplastic release estrogenic chemicals and reduce testosterone, so this affects the men way more than women for the obvious reasons. Porn is also prevalent in guys rather than women. About feminism, yeah I don't believe it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:16 PM
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What that has to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 02:28 PM
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Christiano Ronaldo. Joking aside, money can buy you hygiene, access to health care, multiple options to upgrade your appearance and consequently your attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 01:10 PM
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Man, paragraphs, please. Also, could you provide the link of the thread you made about male social behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 10:56 AM
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Erhmm aren't there social platforms (onlyfans, tik-tok, instagram etc) an industry where women make money from men who objectify them? Haven't seen any uproar, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 08:08 AM
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The bigger question here is why are men so incompetent a woman would rather use Like almost everything else, you need practice to become good at something. There's no easy way to "practice" sex. It's not like there are academies and schools about sex that have both theory and practice. Only through real life experience, which means you are going to suck in the beginning. Why women expect men to be naturally competent in sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 08:08 AM
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There is a single question that each woman should ask and give herself an honest answer: "Are men an enemy?" Do not specify which men, men in general as in "Men are oppressing women" or "men are reaping benefits". Are men an enemy? Yes or no? If the answer is no, there is no reason to not accept or at least be open to the fact that men face unique problems too and need help or at least the ability to hold a healthy discussion focused on them without making it a competition of who is having it wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 01:29 PM
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And holy shit. I get it. A little fire is being lit under y’alls asses and it burns. Shit sucks rn. But shit has almost always sucked for women. There’s a REASON we’re complaining No, you don't get that part. Do you know how would you get it? If every time you were complaining about something the answer would be "yeah but women in Saudi Arabia have it worse." and the discussion would end with the majority of the world around you believing that, yeah, that was a decisive argument, you can stop co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/21 08:02 AM
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Don't be a pessimist. Within about the next 300 million years from now, earth will be completely inhospitable to high life forms like humans, so I suppose there will be true equality in the dating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 02:47 PM
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weird shaped heads and faces Okay, let's say I understand the part about fat and poorly groomed, but this? What kind of weirdly shaped heads and faces that are that common but different to let's say the average women, are you encountering?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/21 08:06 AM
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Imo the most sound advice it would be to be picky and try to find exactly the person she wants but at the same time she should be prepared mentally for the possibility to stay single for the rest of her life if her search doesn't bring results. She should not settle. For her sake, and for the nice man who she is going to settle with, she must not do such a thing. After some years of marriage/living together, she'll realize the toll of being with a man she was never attracted to. It would be a co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:02 PM
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Thanks for sharing this link. Reading the comments below the article is a bit depressive but enlightening nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:57 AM
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I don't understand that argument. A woman's value lies on her womb? So if a woman does not give birth is she a lower value person that a woman who did?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 10:32 PM
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most men care more about the women in their lives than unrelated men. And women care about their men in their lives. It's easy for people to forget this if they spend most of their day reading TRP, FDS and other echo-chamber forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 09:21 AM
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They require so much calculation, so much weighing of every word and gesture, that they sound as though they'd drain the pleasure right out of success. ++ Absolutely right. It makes you feel like you are a prisoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 01:32 PM
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Guys not being able to get laid is a 'you" problem. Not a societal one. A societal problem is a large group of "you" problems. That's exactly what OP ponders. What is the threshold after which this becomes a societal problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 09:22 AM
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What type are you? I'm having a hard time thinking of any type of woman who would have zero options with men. Unless it's something extreme, i.e you are a convicted murderer or unless you are simply not heterosexual. Edit: clarification in options needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 10:24 AM
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Isn't there any point in telling your grandson and the young boys in your family "don't be like your grandfather"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/21 08:41 AM
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I give up. I'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:45 PM
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Was that a threat for violence against women? If you don't get what you want, you will make your frustration our problem via violence? Is that what you said? Holy moly. That post didn't declare the intentions of the writer or any specific man's (wtf), it's stating that in the most extreme of situations of course there are men who would cause violence to women for reasons like these, thus making it womens' "problem" too. That's the argument to your original post, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:30 PM
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You've completely missed (or ignored) my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:20 PM
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Well, one could argue that since women live in the same world with these men, and men want to have sex with women more or less, their frustration (especially in its most extreme of its form) may affect women too. Tua res agitur, paries cum proximus ardet. Edit: typo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 03:02 PM
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Yeah, that sounds like a completely healthy and normal situation. That would imply that both the *fucking doer* (lol) man and the woman would be completely okay to exploit those people; which would be a shitty attitude but what do you know, it seems that we have already established in this forum that using people is not a bad thing. ​ /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:04 PM
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I'm talking about a main character mostly and it's a personal opinion. Make her have flaws. Do not afraid to show her fail, look goofy, look dirty etc. Do not afraid to show her getting help from other characters males or females. Do not show her that she is awesome if she hasn't really earned it throughout the story. Focus on her personal skills, qualities, her growth and not on her gender (yes, try to do it even if it's a story that it mainly has to do with discrimination against women. The st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 09:35 AM
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Yes, I can definitely see that. My point was that love should not be taken for granted. It's not something that anyone can easily find and give.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 12:34 PM
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At the end of the day, bringing love and affection is bare minimum You would be surprised how hard is to find love nowadays. I mean real love, not that one "I love you because everything is going fine". Especially since big part of the dating has become business where two people meet through a platform where attributes and "certifications" are being listed for the buyer to select from. Most people are like "how I can benefit from this relationship". They are focusing on what they can take not wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:34 AM
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Keep working and improving He is locked on "keep working and surviving" right now. That's a cycle you cannot easily break.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:21 AM
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It's subjective but there are dominant patterns in men's and women's preferences and opinions about looks. For example I suspect that for women, a man's height, his face features, whether he has fit body or not, perhaps if he has hair or not are factors that appear very often when you gonna check each individual's take of what makes a man physical attractive. Same goes for men's take in women too. Looks are subjective but you should not be surprised that peoples' preferences overlap way more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:20 PM
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She also edged him out a bit on doing my hair when I was little; if my mom wasn't available he could get it eventually but it took a lot more time and bobby pins. There's this type of dad and there is the one who would suggest giving you a buzzcut to efficiently deal with this issue. XD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:45 AM
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You need to be chill cause it's a quality that you'd like to describe you at those moments. You can also calmly point out that it is not funny. No matter what you do she sounds like a jerk that believes stupid gender-natured "jokes" makes her empowered. Some women believe that belittling men can do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:16 PM
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I would rather not date a woman who's hearing day after day reasons why most men suck. It's not whether they are right or wrong but the fact that many of them appear to be so much into that philosophy -many of them may have valid reasons I can understand that- that I don't feel that a woman like them will ever really love me. Once you have learnt to resent a certain party, it's usually very difficult to knock it off. This is my personal preference, no offense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 06:48 PM
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This simple thing. No matter how right you think you (and the philosophy you're following) are, growing so bitter and resentful against the gender you are trying to date with is like shoting yourself in your foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 09:39 AM
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Lots of reasons. Children, fear of retaliation, social stigma, financial inability to go somewhere else or even pay the lawyers for the divorce etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 05:02 PM
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Holy crap man, I don't know what to day. I'd say that at least you have heard some "good stories" about that time but I guess most of them are bad. Be well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:29 AM
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If these traits are what define him, how would he be now, in a period with relative peace (most of the time)? I'm geniously asking because I suspect that some people have traits that can make them excel in extreme situations but are quite useless in real life. In WW2 there are examples of simple teachers showing strength and courage and went on becoming war heroes but if that war never happened, their status would have not elevated, they would have stayed "average" (in quotes).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:50 AM
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Got what you are saying. So sex, despite the fact that is something both sexes enjoy, is a hard or not so hard-earned reward for a man and practically a negotiation/trading asset for the woman. You understand -I imagine- why men would like to point out this obvious form of inequity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:03 PM
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About sex, isn't the group consists of (mostly) pairs of 2 individuals? Even if they overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:45 PM
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thats not how it works. ... sex is still something women give and men get This is what is not working. It's impossible to get sex without giving sex, man or woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 09:41 PM
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Many times men here listen to opinions and views that completely contradict the reality they live in. It's really hard to believe that an ideal man for any woman would be someone who has no options and thereupon no value. It doesn't make much sense. I didn't want to offend you personally by the way, I'm sorry if I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:56 PM
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my ideal guy would be a guy who no other woman cares for There's is no shortage of that kind of men. However, I suspect you don't really mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:14 PM
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Unfortunately, it isn't fixable. Hair transplants are expensive, not for everyone (you can be rejected if you are below a certain age or the rest of your hair on other areas are not thick enough to harvest follicles), they are not always successful and there's a limit of how many correction surgeries you can do due to the limitation factor of available hair follicles. In addition, mpb meds have some nasty side effects like high blood pressure and heart problems or erectile dysfunction. Adding th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:03 AM
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Men tend to be natural leaders and their attitude gets really shitty, like vindictive or aggressive or passive aggressive, when a woman tries to lead them. That's a stereotype. There are men who are natural leaders, there are men who are not and there are men who have not any problem with a woman leading. They don't "tend" to do what you said. ​ Plus they usually don't have problems going for what they really want, so if they aren't going for it I tend to trust that they have their reasons. Men …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:36 AM
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I believe it but not exactly the same way. Maybe 10 percent of men are right for me, but they are definitely not the same 10 percent as for my best friend. I do certainly believe that but I suspect that yours and your friend's 10 percent may overlap more than you think. Every woman/man has their own preferences but if you see the large picture there are dominant patterns of traits that are desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:41 AM
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You are right, this is exactly the reason. But I like how we have now normalised the belief that most men suck, most women upgrade their partners' life and in general the average man is unadequate for the average woman. Sometimes I wonder if the women who believe this, have ever questioned this rationale: "if so many men are like this, maybe we got something wrong? So many men are not right, it can't be."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:45 AM
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You are not abnormal when you do not have options. Not everyone is incel and hates women when that's happening. This is the kind of thinking that makes men feel inadequate and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 08:14 AM
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The ratio is irrelevant, only a certain/small portion of the male population is desirable to a big portion of the woman population. Most women don't complain they can't find a man, they are expressing their frustration that they can't find the right man for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:56 AM
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Maybe he "had focused on other things than women like his job, career, fitness etc and he expected the right woman would eventually come (but alas)" which is a very prevalent advice for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:37 AM
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I really think body positivity for men should be ran by men It's not "manly" to run a body positivity movement. You should take the hit as "a man". It's actually a trap that men created and fell into ourselves. Any help from women would be appreciated but it's completely understandable if it doesn't come. Women have their own problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:30 PM
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Why did you make this personal? I didn't say there are not people like this, I'm talking about patterns. I'm saying that gentleness and roughness don't go together as often as they do. In my opinion, to become rough is to put yourself in situations you must not compromise and strain your ability to be gentle and polite. On the other hand, if a man is gentle by nature, there is a danger of learning to be overly avoidant of situations you have to step up and stand for yourself. Those are very comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 09:04 AM
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Gentle and rough. If you are aware of how boys usually mature and grow, those traits usually do not go together. If you had to chose only one of those two traits and reversed the other one, which would that be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:44 AM
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It is better to live with hard truths than to live a pleasant lie, right? Sometimes I have my doubt about this. In the last minute of your life, if you could check back, how happy your life were could matter the most, living in a lie or not. I don't know. But yes, I agree with anything else you said. I too suspect that most of the men, we are disposable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 11:22 AM
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There are meds against androgenetic alopecia though. Doesn't that contradict a bit the "baldness is not unhealthy" ? You don't take meds unless there is a problem with your health.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 08:37 PM
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Good conflict resolution skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 05:47 PM
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and tell him you're concerned for his future health and want him to make a change of lifestyle She didn't say she is concerned about his health, she clearly stated that his beer gut makes him unattractive and looks is not something she can compromise. Her concern is that he is lazy not unhealthy and what he is bringing to the table right now is not enough for her. It's about her, not him. She should better break it off. It would be better for both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:32 PM
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Perhaps both of you are correct. I see it as a catch-22 situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:25 AM
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Ah, I see. I am no American and I thought it was just a weird type of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:56 PM
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No country music. You monster. That's as unrealistic as an expectation can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:44 AM
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Who was bitten? I'm pretty sure the ones who had the authority to decide about the one-child policy and of course those parents who secretly got ridden of their baby girls did have a partner and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:56 PM
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Bad faith discussion. You are so bound to prove that we are technically "animals", completely ignoring the main point of the post that we have higher intelligence, self consciousness, morals and many other things that no other species have and we can take decisions and act in ways that are not always bound by biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:07 AM
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Unless we define the word animal differently, the correct word you are looking for is "living organism". We have the needs of a mammal but we are so much more than that. We have art, we have philosophy, political systems like democracy, hell we have tourist tours to space now, no other species wants to do something just for the thrill of it. We are not animals. The fact that we are striving to be more is a proof itself that we are not animals. Biology is not a universal excuse and in most cases …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:15 AM
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A lion is an animal. We are partly animals but not completely. We have self-conciousness, rational thinking and we live in society when we can create laws, customs, institutions that can balance things that are unfair by biology and nature. A simple example is that we have laws that are protecting the weak which is in contrast to the natural evolution where only the strong survives. So it's not that clear cut-and-dry "take it or leave it" situation and excuse everything because of nature. When i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 07:38 AM
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Also, we have to consider the order of what traits are visible and when. Most women want both as you said. They usually ending up taking the strong guy because strength and dominance are what they can check and confirm first. The traits of the "Good" aspect are only visible only after the first step. Let's say you want someone to be A and B. The first step is to filter out the ones who are not A and only afterwards check for B.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 02:00 PM
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Crazy thought: those two may be different groups of men? You know, with uhm... different people in each group?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:53 PM
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Disagree. In my opinion those are usually the excuses of a minority of women out of fear of sharing the burden of initiating and the possible rejection that may follow. Why would a normal man even consider a woman as a "prize"? Putting women on pedestal is a view that has caused many problems in the relationships of the two genders. Also, a man who would mistreat a woman because she initiated a relationship, eventually he is going to mistreat a woman who he had pursued. He would be an asshole re…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 03:06 PM
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They don't despise men and they don't unconditionally love men. There's a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:25 AM
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Underrated comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:24 PM
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comes from men who long for a society where women needed them rather than wanted them, and that society no longer exists I agree but I want to add to that something that I believe is crucial. Most men also see that many women -if not the most-, even though they are now independent (or close to that), they still want men who can provide for them. In a sense, these women "need" those men to -at best- upgrade/improve their standards of their living. And since now women are the ones who choose - the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 12:11 PM
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They would be leaked eventually. 100%. And it's not the same. When those data are out, it's over. It simply can't be mitigated. They are not passwords to be reseted, or accounts to be recreated, or group data for a marketing algorithm. It is dna, essentially your own essence, you can't change it. The "we still live with it" argument is the absolute discussion bomb. Going with your logic someone could say that we are "still living" with paternity fraud and other terrible things as well, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:36 PM
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No insurance companies with universal health care. That would result in no insurance companies at all probably. How would you tackle the discrimination that is bound to happen due to the access in everyone's dna profile? There would be classes of people with desirable traits and others that are not (i.e those who may have hereditary diseases etc). The latter would end up second-class citizens. For example how would you made sure that someone has not been rejected from a job because the company d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:59 AM
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there'd be a database of everyone's DNA, so it would be easier to find a real parent/other relatives/a possible donor and to find a criminal by their DNA. That would be a playground for the corporations and organisations like insurance companies to see who to hire or not, who to insure and on what terms depending on his/her dna and health profile. Hell, if it went public or getting leaked by hackers, this would also affect the dating scene. "Hey, I did a check on his/her dna records and I saw th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 10:46 AM
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I guess it's more time efficient to simply "pay" their way to a young and beautiful male rather than do all the required actions to naturally attract one. Edited: cause I didn't see that you clarified "hot and rich" not just rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 03:51 PM
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One more reason is that women usually face rejection less than men due to the dominant dynamic of "men approaching women". This may also be a reason why there are so many more bitter men like these than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 08:02 AM
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However, anyone CAN be a code monkey. Yeah, no, they can't. I am a software engineer and I deal with people that despite having chosen this profession, can't write a single line of code without any help. Every job has its hardships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:09 AM
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At the end of the day people do not want just love. There's a list of requirements and traits the partners must have and "love" can be further break down to other requirements such as having commitment, loyalty, provision, patience, effort etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 09:12 AM
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