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A million feminists shit themselves when they saw Trump won the White female vote. This is nothing.
/r/MensRights18/11/16 10:33 PM
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That's a little too abstract for my taste. We don't need to follow feminists down the everything is feminsm rabbit hole.
/r/MensRights18/11/16 10:32 PM
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Why is this on Men's Rights?
/r/MensRights18/11/16 10:30 PM
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I see a Ann Coulter fan...
/r/MensRights14/11/16 01:19 PM
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You'd think people in a " X Identity" - rights group would realize their involved in some kind of social justice activism.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 05:14 AM
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Yes it is when you hear what comes out Trumps mouth. Even his own party members had to condemn his racist, and sexist bull crap. Be honest the dude acts like a 10 year old.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 05:11 AM
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Enough of the hyper partisan B.S. Right wingers destroy things with the relentless hate mongering and ideological purity crusades just like Feminists. We aren't here for "the right" we are here for "men and boys". Get your priorities together. Hillary wasn't a MRA nor was Trump. MRA's need to be above the partisan politics when neither party has a platform for men.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 05:09 AM
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The right is a traditionalist party. It's not hard to find evidence in their leaders words if not policies like the Republican Florida Governor repeatedly vetoing alimony reform. They love protecting family values often by getting tough on men. The most draconian child support collection policies come from the right.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 05:06 AM
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Men's Rights like other identity driven social justice movements is as much about raising awareness of a groups issues as it is seeking legal protections. Individual rights isn't going to raise awareness about male sexual assault victimization, suicide, boys falling behind in school, or a host of other issues.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 05:00 AM
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Milo got on the hate train of the far right. He pimped anti-feminism for fame and profit then turned into Ann Coulter.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 04:57 AM
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Even his wife calls him stridently anti Jewish and he's a white nationalists. If you want Men's Rights permanently defined as a hate movement then having Bannon lead the charge would get you there. I don't think fighting for half humanity should be partisan or headed up by ethno-nationalist.
/r/MensRights14/11/16 04:55 AM
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Bush got 9% of African American vote in 2000 and 11% in 2004. The blame the white men narrative is about feminists trying to reestablish dominance after triggering a giant election losing backlash. Don't let them do it. The white female vote went for Trump. There should be no gender bashing.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 10:55 PM
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These comments present a great opportunity to call out misandry since a majority of white women also voted for Trump. Feminists stay trying to ignore or excuse that fact so keep shoving it in their faces for the next 4 years. Don't forget to remind feminists they can't possibly speak for all women when half voted against them. They simply aren't diverse enough to be the voice of half humanity.
/r/MensRights10/11/16 10:48 PM
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No. I only wish he were a black woman, so that he would be immune from all criticism. It doesn't work that way. If you challenge these idealogues they'll tear you down no matter who you are be it Staci Dash, Raven Simone, or a host of others who ran afoul of the standing PC narrative on identity. The gay card got him some leaway on gender but that's about it. He has gone well beyond gender to contentious posture on fat shaming, black activism and being stridently islamophobic.
/r/MensRights30/10/16 04:18 AM
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Milo hurts himself by hating on Muslims and Black Lives Matter. The case against feminism is solid but the alt right focus on hate mongering is not. If he had begun his media rounds focusing on alt right topics he wouldn't have invited on so many television programs. Taking on feminism is the goose that laid his golden egg, he diluted that success chasing the far right. The problem for the MRM is he uses our talking points on feminism then engages in outright bigotry against other identity group…
/r/MensRights30/10/16 04:06 AM
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It's going down like a black liberal at a Trump rally which kind of proves the point.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 08:13 PM
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Spare me the victim act. Race matters when you have white nationalist constantly prowling for any cause they can hijack like feminist using intersectionality to make to claim dominion over every cause in sight. It went from white rights to Trump will stop, progressives, SJWs and BLM. Notice none of that is men's rights? The old liars game where you feign outrage like you don't know whats going on won't work on me or with the wider public. Michelle real crime is being black, liberal, and popular.…
/r/MensRights29/10/16 08:11 PM
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So I looked up the bill and found this: The bill "punishes employers for retaliating against workers who share wage information, puts the justification burden on employers as to why someone is paid less and allows workers to sue for punitive damages of wage discrimination. That's where I got that idea from. From the criticisms I don't see much reason to oppose it unless some evidence it's harmful is presented. I know the wage gap propaganda is thick but the bill itself seems innocuous. I for one…
/r/MensRights29/10/16 04:36 PM
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I would agree that black people need to be better. I can give you a list of areas of improvement if you'd like that are often suggested by black people trying to achieve that end. Black empowerment activist talks about this constantly. MRA's would be male empowerment activists to the extent we seek to encourage men and boys to fight for their interests. We hope males would show males more compassion. That's asking males to be better and it's okay. There is a point where critique becomes a hatefu…
/r/MensRights29/10/16 04:11 PM
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Yes Men's Rights is social justice like women's rights, gay rights, and countless other causes where you fight for the rights of some identity group being denied them. Social justice has a long tradition. Jesus was interested in social justice. The catholic church has some of the largest social justice institutions in the world. MR needs people who aren't so consumed by hating others they can't get anything done or end up sabotaging their causes with useless hate mongering. That's what happened …
/r/MensRights29/10/16 03:59 PM
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Wow that's so stupid I don't know where to begin. General parenting advice like love your kids isn't arrogant in the least. I keep seeing people call Obama's arrogant and it sounds like "uppity negro know your place" to me. I hate to go there but the level of irrational hatred leads me there. FYI: You don't broaden the cause by alienating people with a baseless attack on a very popular person. The Michelle issue is an opportunity for MRAs to consider everyone, not just males. This is a great way…
/r/MensRights29/10/16 03:48 PM
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I'm not angry. You are right I didn't know what bill you were talking about and assumed it was another. After reading the summary I don't see anything shocking here or cause to fear. Are you some sort of egomaniac running around telling other people what to think, what to care for ? Are you kidding me? Do you realize Men's Rights Advocacy by nature must do this? The only ego concern I have is fighting for a cause that ends up being the racist alt-right white nationalist front it's opponents make…
/r/MensRights29/10/16 03:37 PM
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You need to check yourself. If others come here and see a bunch of white guys lashing out at the black first lady over pettiness it makes MRA's look bad and racist. I see people here constantly trying to check SJW's for their dick moves and hear you are doing the same crap from a different angle. We have a ton of serious Men's issues. Trying to get on Michelle for saying men can help girls by being attentive loving fathers is freaking stupid. I'm not here to impress the hate mongers looking to f…
/r/MensRights29/10/16 03:23 PM
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In none of your commentary did you deal with the issue of police shooting people at a extraordinary rate. You are just mad these black activist raise race issue in addressing police violence. History matters and like it or not police harassing black people for being black does too. More importantly the race angle was the only way to get the media to care. Dead men don't make much news. Nobody marching for white guys shot, not even white nationalist who would rather hate BLM despite reforms they …
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:49 PM
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Paycheck fairness doesn't hurt men. Two men can have a unjustified pay gap but not know unless they're told what other guy is getting. Using women as props? There are "women for trump" behind him at rallies. Am I to hear lessons on female objectification from you? Let's not be so petty when we have more real issues than we can swing at.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:37 PM
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This is hardly misandry. You need to raise bar for outrage to something worthy or end up being ignored like feminists for crying wolf.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:24 PM
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A irrational hater detected...
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:22 PM
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I don't know why this is a MRA issue. Can't stand Hillary but that's politics. Regarding her fame she is first lady of USA and you hating on her only makes you and our cause look bad. Her acheivements aren't important because she's not running the country. Promoting good causes is enough and she does that plenty. Haters gonna hate but why be one? Get mad about somoething real.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:19 PM
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Most men couldn't pull a women that amazing. I like her more than Barak, she is a women's activist but not a man hater. Barak is more hostile to men than she is, it seems he has some issues from his dad taking off. Michelle's doesn't have his daddy issues. She had a great father and mother in a loving stable family.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:11 PM
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Right wing hatred of the left wing isn't men's rights. Spare us conspiracy theories and your politics. People on the right need to check themselves because you tend to destroy legit causes like feminists who treat everything as a idealogical bludgeon to beat disssenters into submission. Men need to be better. Men need to care equally for men and boys. Am I now the voice of evil? Please check yourself.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:05 PM
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That ain't got a damn thing to do with Men's Rights. Saying men need to be better at being dad's is hardly offensive. It's generic parenting advice not some idealogy laden diatribe like your comment. The hate I see is coming from those injecting their electoral politics into this forum instead of focusing on the cause of men and boys.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 02:00 PM
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This article sounds like a feminist going full throttle on petty bullshit. There is nothing here to get outraged about. The line about women not being abused by men being rare was about it. It's sad to see MRAs go down the path of feminists to petty thought policing. I know the real issue with Michelle for most here is her being on the left.
/r/MensRights29/10/16 01:54 PM
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White racism is why you're making a issue out of BLM in MRA forum despite it being a cause defending men from state violence.
/r/MensRights21/10/16 03:24 PM
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Anecdotes about activists... How about the issues? How about the dead men? How about 94% shot by police being men? You are looking to be mad because they're black and I'm tired of it. This isn't even the forum for that but you had to make it about that. You wonder why BLM was racially driven? This crap right here. Men's rights can learn a lot from real activists who organize and get things done.
/r/MensRights21/10/16 03:22 PM
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This is men's rights and BLM is actually fighting for men. You hate because it's black and nothing else. I know there are radical in their movement just like ours but to single them out as " the problem" when they're the highest profile group fighting for male people is seriously screwed up. The white fear of non whites has always been disproportionate. You have a full blown white nationalist uprising afoot but black men wanting police to shoot them less often is the real crisis. Cut the B.S.
/r/MensRights21/10/16 03:14 PM
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Black feminists formed a media lynch mob against a man acquitted in a court of law of raping a white women 17 years ago. How ironic considering the history of black men getting lynched for raping white women. I think the divide it creates within the black community is more likely than not to harm the credibility of feminists pushing gender war at a time when black men are filling the prisons and morgues. BlackLivesMatter was started by black feminists but at no point did we see broad acknowledge…
/r/MensRights10/10/16 10:10 AM
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Right here at 21 seconds
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:48 AM
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But all that said, BLM is not about fixing police brutality. Yes it is, and the fact some under that banner do dumb shit doesn't change that. Now BLM seriously seems like a supremacist movement. If you get your perspective from white nationalist then yes. Again there are some idiots but the bulk of the cause is focused on police brutality. The SJW regressive left types will coopt anything to draw attention and power to themselves. They undermine social justice activism as a whole and will implod…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:44 AM
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BLM is lying about pretty much everything No you been absorbing too much propaganda from your group think hive mind. Other than having incidents on video the statistics back them up end to end from USA having an insane amount of police shootings to record low rates of police being shot. This trail of violence you speak of doesn't exist. FYI: riots weren't BLM, they predate BLM from LA riots to the "Long hot summer" (look it up). These black race riots have been happening for a long time in USA a…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:39 AM
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In fact, it's harder for me to get a job or get in to college because I'm not a protected class. If there were no protected classes it wouldn't be any easier. In fact being male entitles you to a degree of affirmative action that goes on under the table. They don't talk about it but it's been going on for a while. Universities don't want massively lopsided gender ratios. These protected classes might have an easier shot at certain jobs but only where they are unlikely to have a shot at all. That…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:26 AM
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cool
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:12 AM
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Eligible white males who apply to a college vs eligible <group> that who apply to college. When this is done it is clear that a very high number of white males who are eligible are under represented. What kind of B.S attempt at statistical manipulation is this? This crap is what feminists do when they want to bend truth to fit their narrative. You think real MRA's are unfamiliar with these games after reading dozens of studies erasing male victimization and what not? You are playing yourself. Yo…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:12 AM
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Men's rights has nothing to do with expanding compassion. It has to do with protecting men's rights. ALL MEN'S RIGHTS. Are you new to Men's Rights? Have you read or at least listened to Warren Farrell AKA father of the Men's Rights movement? I don't think you have and I you might want do that before thinking you know what you're talking about. Not every men's issue is reducible to "rights". People can simply choose not to give a damn about suffering men without violating their rights which has s…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:58 AM
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It's shallow to think only feminists get in the way of Men's Rights. It was men after all who put these anti-male policies in place at the behest of women's groups. Trump race baited by claiming Mexicans were raping women because he knew what emotional buttons to press. Republicans wouldn't let women into the draft. Republican Governer Rick Scott vetoed bipartisan Alimony reform. It's not simple as being against feminists.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:44 AM
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Always be recording. This is the advice MRA's give men dealing with their abusive partners. It's about all you can do. Of course the next step is to show someone who can really help what they've been doing to you. I don't suggest fighting back. Play the victim, but be a victim with evidence of their abuse.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:41 AM
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Did you pout and wring your hands when Gamergate did the same thing as Trump is doing now? That's a good point.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:37 AM
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That's shallow. A traditionalist is little better than a feminist when it comes to showing compassion for men.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:32 AM
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The dude is a salesman that's it. Stop expecting hope and change from a self serving hustler. I notice people keep projecting onto him whatever they want. He on the other hand will take any position to win even contradicting himself one sentence to the next. Men's Rights won't get a savior. Men will have to step up just like women did to make people listen.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:31 AM
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No he suggested women's health.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:28 AM
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You late to the game. Diversity calls began when white males where the only ones holding these roles. If you want to call that anti white male then fine, but you'd be supporting anti everyone else. MRA's had a uphill battle convincing people they weren't a bunch of entitled white men trying turn the clock back. People like you aren't helping. Too busy chasing petty victimhood like feminists. Too much about your hurt fee fees not enough about demonstrable systemic gender oppression which real MRA…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:21 AM
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No you just don't understand statistics.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:03 AM
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Except Asians, they left Asians out the little chart. They are at 59.8%.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:01 AM
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Man you are bad at math. Let's say there were 100 white men and 10 black men. There were 40 white men in school and 3 black men. The calculation is: 40/100100=40% for whites. 3/10100=30% for blacks. Since whites were at 38.3% and blacks 33.9% a larger proportion of white males are enrolled. Relative group size is irrelevant since each group is represented in the statistic as a proportion of it's total population. That means they're comparable as is, no need to screw with the math.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 06:00 AM
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No you never proved it. You kept misreading fairly simple statistics, which is really bad for a MRA's who have to read the original studies to find what the media left out. The statistics stated clearly that white males had more of their 18 to 24 population in college than blacks or Hispanics. You think because there are more white males a percentage of group in school would vary. No it does not. That's because to get that percentage of group you calculate using the total populations of that gro…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 05:50 AM
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Those statistics for "School%" are per capita statistics. The percentage of population are irrelevant since it's already telling you what percentage of 18-24 of a given race are in school. White males are most represented in school of the 3 racial groups. The end. One more time. (Number of race group in School divided Total number of race group (age 18-24) in country X 100) The result already takes relative populations into account which is why it's on a chart for us to these compare groups.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 05:40 AM
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Just going to save some time now and put you on ignore. Seriously dude? You are just like the damn RadFems like dude said. Men's Rights was happy without your kind. Facts matter and your link wasn't even for the United States. Males are a minority in higher education relative to females in much of the developed world. That's a Men's Rights issue. The argument you are supposed to make is for United States, with it's racial demographics. You can't swap countries dude. Seriously you white rights SJ…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 05:22 AM
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Women aren't underrepresented in law school. They make up half the students.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 05:00 AM
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Minorities still don't have the power. You'd have to be talking about whites being racist against white people. Here's a new goal post. If you can't demonstrate 'oppression' then you shouldn't be whining about it. Even with no affirmative action and the same grades the white person still wouldn't have a better chance of getting in. The only reason they give a pass to minorities is because very few even have a shot. It's may be the difference between having one in the class and zero. You want to …
/r/MensRights27/05/16 04:59 AM
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Yes it's racism like only wanting to focus on problems that impact white men no matter how small so long as they can be blamed on some non white group. I see this racism all the time from white rights types who'll happily ignore hell fury from feminists to hyper focus on why poor minorities are the real problem. You'll see stats telling you 1% of employees at Google are black then fight like hell to get rid of any program google has in place to get more in. This white nationalist crap has been g…
/r/MensRights27/05/16 04:56 AM
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I wouldn't say that. ESL students with the right background are known to wipe the floor with native born Americans. Affirmative action programs being banned in California higher education led to Asians becoming the most likely to be admitted.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 04:48 AM
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What does that have to do with gender of feminism? Blacks attacking whites isn't some kind of social crisis oppressing masses of white people last I checked. On the other hand we see women going on the war path against men leading to oppressive policies with broad impact targeting that gender. There is a reason "white rights" folks is seen as a bunch of racist even by Men's Rights. The evidence never supported their irrational fear of subjugation by non whites.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 04:44 AM
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Same scores so bad example. It's deciding on identity representation instead of a coin toss which makes little difference to majority group applicants who have very few underrepresented minorities to compete with. Put it this way, you might end up with 1 or 2 of these minorities in a class of 50. Crying oppression because those 1 or 2 seats could have gone to people in the majority group is freaking petty.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 04:41 AM
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Appalling behavior by the protesters but Milo has been courting the Alt-Right lately and that's not cool. It's hard to paint him as a innocent victim of the repressive left when he wants white nationalist/supremacist to be his fan club right down to calling fellow conservatives"cucks" for voicing dissent. If he keeps courting the extreme right, he'll have no moral high ground over the extreme left.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 03:52 AM
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That's crazy. It's a freaking concert and that should be illegal.
/r/MensRights06/05/16 06:25 PM
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BLM is about police brutality. Getting shot at the same rate as whites doesn't solve the problem when they too are being shot too often by police. Claiming blacks are after supremacy goes back to Malcom X and the Civil Rights movement. The white nationalist don't have a lot of new ideas. Now they borrow victimhood narratives from the other groups claiming to be oppressed by whites. America has done all this before and after it's all said and done we end up back where we started...white guilt.
/r/MensRights06/05/16 06:10 PM
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I know, for a fact, that as a straight white male, i am the most officially discriminated against demographic in North America....its actually legal to discriminate against me based on sex and skin colour. The fact is you can't provide any statistical evidence to establish systemic oppression having any meaningful impact while MRA's have no problem doing this with men in general relative to women. The same is true for racial justice activism but let me help you out. Poor whites are worse off tha…
/r/MensRights06/05/16 06:04 PM
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You think that's a Kafkatrap? Imposing segregation as a system of oppression actually happened. You prefer segregation so that makes you the agent of oppression not some bystander sharing your identity being wrongly blamed for it. No there isn't away out of directly and personally intending to marginalize certain races of people in your life. Do I hate white people? I deal with jack asses like you and stick around so I guess not.
/r/MensRights06/05/16 05:33 PM
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This is not about the fucking left right shit. You want to hate other races of people and sugar coat it. It doesn't matter what the media spin is on this. I'm talking about the stated objectives of alt-right. Please cut the shit and stop trying to spin this or play sides against each other. As bad as SJW's are the Alt-Right is worse. FYI(1) "GamerGate (seriously) and MRA's" are groups who constructively changed the dialogue dogma driven regressive SJW's rejection of classical liberalism wouldn't…
/r/MensRights06/05/16 05:27 PM
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Not wanting to associate with people of other races.is treating them with contempt. How stupid do you think people are? Your blatant racism not only makes you look like an ass but it taints anyone associated with you. Men's Rights doesn't need that shit. White men don't need that shit. If you haven't noticed people like you effectively legitimize the case against white males made by SJW's thus making asses out of those standing up for decent white men who have no interest in the hate driven idea…
/r/MensRights06/05/16 02:48 PM
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You didn't read the article or at least not carefully enough. They said they didn't know if Milo was racist but the alt right certainly is. Either way this article seems a little off topic for men's rights but it shows us the danger of turning a legit fight with feminism into space for white nationalism. We see too much of that going on and even cool gay guys like Milo can be redefined slick haired devils in no time. The alt-right isn't something to toy with, they're an outright racist white nat…
/r/MensRights06/05/16 02:36 PM
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You should have engaged. Walking out is kinda of punk considering they gonna be mad at you anyway. Better to tell them why you mad.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 12:44 PM
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That's arguing definitions and you don't want to waste your time with that. Far easier to agree on the terms and argue the substance. There is a gap in incomes so talk about why that gap exists. During that conversation you can raise the difference of pay and earnings but don't make that your argument.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 12:43 PM
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You are exactly right. Calling pay gap bullshit is falling into a trap where you have to argue against reality. Far better to question the cause of the gap. I find people who go all "Trump" on everything aren't ready for nuanced arguments but they need to learn if the wish to be effective educating people and changing minds.
/r/MensRights26/04/16 12:40 PM
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Once again this doesn't have anything to do with men's rights. Tell me what gender issue stems from cultural appropriation? Please stop derailing what the cause is about so you can lash out at black people even if they are pushing similarly contrived ideological B.S. This sub isn't about that B.S, unless it's gender B.S.
/r/MensRights22/04/16 02:57 AM
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/r/mensrights is not freaking #GamerGate or /r/Kotokuinaction. Can you please stop archiving every damn thing.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:19 AM
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Do you want to empower free speech opponents with the broadest sense knowing damn well feminists are out front right now pushing narratives to shut down our forums and censor the web against misogyny as interpreted by radical feminists? Do you remember what happened with GamerGate? Even a little?
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:09 AM
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Did a feminists do this? If so you have a point otherwise you don't. You are grasping at straws to make this a gender issue, because I don't see anything but black, SJW and gay as identities in that title. The loss of focus is dangerous mission creep.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:08 AM
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We are dealing with feminists not SJW's in general. Get out of the GamerGate mode and recognize Men's Rights operates on a more narrow scope. Taking down social justice is not why Men's Rights exists. It's fundamentally about expanding the envelope to include men.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:04 AM
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If there is no feminists or gender considerations in the article we should leave it alone. There are other forums for that. Doing otherwise gives the impression we are out to attack LGBT and racial minorities by trying to make opposition to their activism into a Men's Rights issue.
/r/MensRights21/04/16 06:01 AM
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I'm not here to shield shady black activist but when it's got nothing to to do with feminists or gender activism it shouldn't be here. It's bad enough ya'll got all stupid attacking Black Lives Matter as if they weren't the only people on mass in the streets trying to protect men from state violence. Are there bad activist? Absolutely but what's more troubling is white resentment of blacks in general being pushed as the platform of men's rights and I know that's not what it's about. Get your act…
/r/MensRights21/04/16 05:56 AM
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I don't doubt white men are the target, but they also make up the bulk of of people on Reddit. Even in liberal online forums are mostly white. The liberal publications bashing white males like Buzzfeed and Cracked are mostly white males. If you are on Fox or MSNBC most of the pundit time is allocated to white males. You have mostly whites going after whites to gain moral authority over everyone. Identity politics has been hijacked and identity itself has been weaponized without regard to the ide…
/r/MensRights21/04/16 05:51 AM
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The right wing mentality where you twist everything into a war on liberals is just as dysfunctional. When there is evidence the other side is right the spin machine starts just like it does on the left. Look beyond the ideological posturing and confront the corrupting influences. Feminists insists we have blind faith in sexual violence accusers. It doesn't matter if you are on the left or right. Men's rights are human rights like being judged innocent until proven guilty. If you want to wage war…
/r/MensRights20/04/16 04:12 AM
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This has nothing to do with Men's Rights. This is not /r/anti-SJW , it's not POL, it's not r/whiterights, it's not /r/tumblrinaction. This is /r/Mensrights where we talk about gender issues remember? Why are you now coming after race, and LGBT activist? It's not like the gender issues were even mentioned in the articles. By the way /r/mensrights supports gay rights and racial equality along with equal rights for women and men. This whole Men's Rights thing is very much tied up in social justice …
/r/MensRights20/04/16 04:05 AM
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No it's not a terrorist act. You are using the same bullshit tactics as feminists trying to claim some anonymous hate tweet is a threat on par with ISIS. Tweets aren't violence. If you push that kind of reasoning you're enabling all sorts of abuse and overreaction leading to mass censorship online especially against forums like this one. Don't be stupid.
/r/MensRights20/04/16 03:55 AM
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Why is this even posted here? What does this have to do with men's rights or gender issues? If you want to go to r/whiterights go right ahead but turning a sub about gender issues into forum to vent your black activist is seriously fucked up. I've seen this pattern on the right way too many times where some gender issue is raised but all the backlash becomes about race. I won't defend the activist, clearly their actions are terrible but it has absolutely nothing to do with men's rights. Moderato…
/r/MensRights20/04/16 03:52 AM
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Hands up don't shoot wasn't just Mike Brown. You focus on one guy shot that wasn't on video while there are dozens on video being shot unarmed. You are a fool if Mike supposed to take down the cause with so many victims I can't even count. Just look it up on youtube and you'll find dozens of various races being gunned down unarmed. Wake up to the real problem. It's not thugs getting away with being shot to death by police.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:34 PM
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I'm not avoiding the issue. I carefully explained why this got coverage while you pretend they can't find 'whites as the victim' groups saying extreme things when it's simply not considered news worthy. The goal is to get clicks, nobody cares about those they see as racist saying racist things. If BLM says they hate white people then people will listen. If some white nationalist types say they hate Mexicans nobody cares.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:32 PM
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But when Malik Zulu Shabazz of the NBPP (which has nothing to do with the original Black Panthers, they are just a splinter NOI faction) calls Michelle Malkin a prostitute for questioning the narrative of false accuser Crystal Mangum, that's fine. Oh, and they support the genocide of Afrikaaners in South Africa, because nothing is more conducive to moving past apartheid. The NBPP is not a hill you should seek to die on. The fact the NBPP isn't influential or popular is cause enough to dismiss th…
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:29 PM
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You'll see. The Alt-Right is on the war path.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:18 PM
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Alt-right are the ultimate trolls. That's why you keep trying to bring that crap to Men's Rights as if being a white nationalist front would be good for the cause. You and your clique are being too selfish for your own good. If your cause can stand then start your own movement. Stop trying to hijack Men's Rights. It's not like I come here and only push black issues or hate on white dudes when they bring up their issues. Men's Rights needs to be about all men regardless of nationality or race. Th…
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:18 PM
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White Genocide tweets are all over the place but the press doesn't pay much attention to white nationalist or the alt-right. The press wants controversy and clicks, it's all about man bites dog if you know what I mean. Nobody cares if a white nationalist is being racist but a BLM activist saying something outrageous can get lots of clicks.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:14 PM
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At some point you have to take off your rose tinted glasses and realize that it isn't stereotyping to admit that race has a corrolation with criminal activities. Race, class, and gender correlates with criminal activities. I should not have to remind a Men's Rights activist how foolish it is to embrace identity stereotyping as an approach to criminality while feminist justify misandry by recognizing men are the overwhelming perpetrators of violent crime. We can't just call every victim an angel …
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:10 PM
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No they don't. Police misconduct is a separate issue. The street thugs going around shooting people aren't on the public payroll.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:08 PM
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They have reasons to be angry but blaming white people in general or men is not the way to go. That perspective is dysfunctional and hateful. Social justice activist need to be role models for justice and just thought not emotionally driven rage machines justifying hateful intent with a otherwise just cause. We should expect them to be better than those who oppose them not that we can afford to ignore legitimate demands for justice because activist behave like jerks.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:07 PM
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/white difference is only 5-7x, small by comparison. Reminder that BLM calls their history webpage a HerStory page. Police kill unarmed men 19 times more than unarmed women. The black/white difference is only 5-7x, small by comparison. BLM isn't the black feminist who started it. It's similar to GamerGate in organization, basically a hashtag with no top down leadership. Citing the smaller racial difference than gender difference is utterly meaningless considering it's never been framed as a issu…
/r/MensRights10/04/16 06:03 PM
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You are absolutely right. Just like with Men's Rights the only time the media cares if we can show how women are affected by men's suffering. The only time the media cares about people dying at the hands of police is if it can be tied to racism. This is the sensational, drama fueled media climate activist find themselves in and it's make the most of it or perish in obscurity. We've seen that happen to MRA's and it took Father's Rights pulling crazy stunts to get on the tube.
/r/MensRights10/04/16 05:57 PM
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This is the problem with right wing hate logic. They'll preach the constitution day and night then throw it out soon as they find some identity group they find threatening. Michael Brown could be a career criminal for all we know and he'd still have human rights. That's how it's supposed to work. The man's body laid in the streets for 4 hours then he was put in the back of a SUV instead of a ambulance when they were done. That treatment of a human being sets off a community uprising because othe…
/r/MensRights10/04/16 05:52 PM
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Give me a freaking break. Scared of the negro threat talk is outdated white suprimacist propaganda from even before the civil war. It was a excuse for slavery, jim crow, and whatnow cops shooting men? Stop it.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 05:18 AM
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The white people you know sound ignorant as hell. Police shooting dead a 1000 men a year isn't a joke and they're the only ones who've managed to make it a national issue. Black feminists did a lot to support the cause. They are organized and I don't think Mens Rights is in any position to call a group getting things done for men stupid even if you don't like their tactics.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 05:15 AM
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I agree except for the claim women weren't oppressed as a over protected class whose social status made them vulnerable to abuse like children without CPS. Men did suffer gender roles that took their lives with greater regularity. We could say men suffered more, but I won't deny women were denied the chance to be equals. It was the law.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:58 AM
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Okay her tweet sucked but it's not a movement. Let's not forget they protest when men are killed to keep more from being killed. We can whine about angry tweets but we weren't putting our ass on the line for weeks to get justice for some man.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:49 AM
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It's a tweet not a movement. She can be judged on her own.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:33 AM
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You white nationalist types go around hijacking causes just like feminists leaving a trail of over the top rhetoric fed by blinding rage at the other. You aren't helping anyone with this crap. Hate for hate sake and you know what that did to feminism.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:30 AM
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People like you don't need to be in Mens Rights because you use negative stereotypes of men to marginalize male victimization just like feminists. My guess is your motive is racial rather than gender but the bigotry is all the same. People are pushing compassion for men not more contempt due to bull crap narratives from some biased media source. BLM ain't perfect but at least they stood up for men being killed without cause. That's pretty damn rare these days.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:26 AM
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Black lives matter is one of the most effective men's issue focused groups out there right now. MRA's should at least support their mission despite the over heated rhetoric from proponents in the media. Like with feminism the most sensational thing leads, then again most of those put on TV are the feminists coopting yet another cause. The organized do the organizing.
/r/MensRights07/04/16 04:20 AM
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White nationalism on the rise. You never saw hate crime suggested for some raging white feminist. They want r/mensrights to be r/whiterights. Evidence does not support their narrative of systemic white victimhood imposed by minorities but they don't care.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:20 PM
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More alt right identarian white nationalist rhetoric. You want to turn men's rights into a race war battlefield and in the process discredit the efforts of countless decent egalitarian people concerned with oppression of all peoples. Yes blacks face oppression, no you don't care. Much of what you see blacl people protesting are mensrights issues. The cause is hurt by your kind not helped.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:16 PM
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White people start complaining about "cultural appropriation" when you see a black person exhibiting literacy or having a job. That's so racist and ignorant. Literacy even for whites came with compulsory education which is a fairly recent development. Having jobs for people brought against their will to do slave labor is particularly insulting. I don't care about the PC side of this. It's the ignorance like this young black women who didn't know Europeans dreaded their hair thousands of years ag…
/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:12 PM
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I'm suprised you haven't called for a lynching. What's wrong the white robes in the cleaners? Watch the language.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:06 PM
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That's a serious issue. The state should be required to use due diligence to locate and communicate father before adoption put him on a list and expect him to check it. Worse yet birth mother can claim ignorance of father's identity without consequences.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 05:03 PM
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It's not phony and even Trump has been forced to admit it happened. Now he's claiming he was threatened with her pen, that's some weak lying feminists style B.S when they get caught being the aggressor. Find a better hero for real.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 04:56 PM
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The videos show contact and if you haven't seen the over view from security camera then you should. This is not a false accusation. There are witnesses, video and audio immediately following the event which matches the video. Please keep the cesspool that is Trumpism out MensRights, that man stands for nothing and nobody but himself which isn't much better than onflience selling Hillary but at least she can control herself and think before she speaks. We would not defend MRA who man handled a fe…
/r/MensRights31/03/16 04:54 PM
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White nationalist never stop trying to hijack men's rights. Trump is the only politician who I call a mysoginist because he has some deep issue with women. The Megan Kelly thing is a fine example of that. Will he punk out on debating Hillary too? Twice he skipped Megan Kelly moderated debates...TWICE! Megan Kelly by the way covered Amherst false rape case more than anyone on TV. I'll take one of her over ten of him as far as this cause is concerned.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 04:44 PM
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The only difference is it takes place in women's shelter. Men have access from the broader needle exchange program. This isn't worth getting mad about.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 04:33 PM
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Why pick a fight with your teacher? Why not? Feminists do it all the time. Men have to stop living in fear. Once upon a time women faced uphill odds getting equal respect. They stood up despite the cost. Men have to do the same.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 04:59 AM
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You aren't helping anyone with crap advice like that. Not enough conscious men stand up but plenty want to whine when feminists are the only voices in the room.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 04:57 AM
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If you apply feminist stated principals like "equality" you can undermine mainstream views and get the result you want. Men's Rights fights for equality so if you point out sexism against men you break with gender feminist but not all of them. I suggest you do the book "The Myth of Male Power" by Warren Farrell. It pretty much does the analysis for you and he was on the board of NOW so they can't claim he isn't familiar with the feminists perspective.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 04:56 AM
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I don't vote, but thanks for asking before drawing that hasty conclusion, buddy. If you advocate someone it's good as a vote So sayeth the guy off a month hiatus running behind other people complaining about Donald Trump. Nothing to say about male suicide, nothing to say about false accusations, nothing to say about alimony reform, but when Trump's name comes up, here you are. I came to defend Megan Kelly for raising those issues. If you've been in Men's Rights for awhile then you'd know how big…
/r/MensRights20/03/16 03:42 PM
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Thank god I'm not the only one who noticed that. These Trump guys don't care about a damn thing but spinning bogus narratives to protect their savior criticism.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 03:01 AM
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Trump said something foul and sexist. That wasn't called for and if you are going to stoop to that level r/theredpill is right over there. We'd be on Hillary in a minute if she accused a man of thinking with his dick or something. That's not fair game. Misandry of Misogyny, is a problem.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:58 AM
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Is this about being Trump fanboys or are you going to take a dump on the women who brought the Amherst false rape case to the mainstream? Seriously I'm sick of people bringing their petty politics to this forum. I'm on the left but I won't bash Megan Kelly a far right propaganda pusher with a history of race-baiting white voters here, because what matters here is Men's Rights not Trump Rights, or Bernie Rights.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:55 AM
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She'd be vastly more likely to put on a show refuting the wage gap if she hasn't done so already.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:53 AM
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I agree with Megan Kelly and so far she's the only one to take the campus rape false accusations seriously. She's done a number of pieces on it and yes Bill should have defended her like Ailes did. It's their freaking team, forget chivalry. I don't even like her (outside MRM) because she made her name hyping fear of the New Black Panthers, but for this cause, the MRA cause she's one of the few people who might take our issues mainstream so lets not count her out.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:52 AM
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People are complaining about Trump encouraging violence and he did that. There are millions of violent acts taking place in America each day, we aren't blaming candidates or parties for them but we will if a candidate says you punch someone in the face at your rally and a supporter punches someone in the face. You need to have enough maturity not to sugar coat that kind of behavior because our craptastic American politics are still better than that. Don't sink to his level and don't lie to cover…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 02:38 AM
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ITS CALLED A FEMINIST
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:05 AM
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We are talking about feminists not progressives. You right wingers keep getting side tracked by idealogy as if the right has taken up the cause of men's rights aside from Milo, but in that case I can point to the rare liberal doing the same. Cruz rejects draft for women along with Hillary. Drop the idealogical blinders.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:02 AM
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Trumps words don't need twisting and it's not just SJW's who have a problem with him. We don't need Trumps cry bully B.S anymore than we do feminists crying about nasty comments after writing a article trashing half humanity. Hate mongers on left or right have some backlash coming their way. A few protestors on a crowd of thousands doesn't make him a victim. If anything he exploits them just like a feminists would to boost his own profile despite having vastly more power to get his message out t…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:59 AM
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We can't give up on either. Demanding equal compassion for men and boys is the point and abandoning grown men doesn't get us there.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:34 PM
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It's going to be that way. Feminist had the same problem when they really fought for "equal" rights. Right now that establishment is seeking to silence men's activist doing the same by painting them as enemies of women and in the process acting as oppressors. You see them accusing MRA's of coopting social justice language but in this instance the shoe fits, the oppressed group fighting for their rights are men and the oppressors wrongly using that language to protect a unjust status quo are femi…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:33 PM
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It's really sexist because it dismisses men as victims. According to the poster men can only be "perpetrators" or "bystanders". That's so wrong.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 05:21 PM
1

Ask her how much she is getting paid to speak at your campus and whether or not she'd be willing to openly debate those who disagree with her views in the future.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 07:23 PM
1

The NY Post did that not MRA's.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 03:33 PM
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Yes but it does present a counter narrative to feminists who disparage men for being masculine. Respect for masculinity is in and of itself valuable even if women do so out of a self serving desire to be protected by men. I respect that many men like that role even though it should not be forced upon them.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 03:32 PM
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Feminists are leftist but leftist are not necessarily feminists. They are trying to hijack the left just like they did with social justice. There is plenty of push back. Just look at a liberal site like DailyKos and you'll see it's not a haven for crazy feminists crap. Feminists as a very active vocal minority can make waves especially in a controversy hungry media seeking divisive issues to garner page clicks but in the liberal base you won't see vast numbers of supporters for their extremist a…
/r/MensRights29/01/16 03:30 PM
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I don't like abandoning the mission of men's rights to go pick on refugee men. It is fair to point out the double standards used by feminists but not to assert that these men should be stereotyped as rapist. We don't want that fate for men in general. They guilty ought be judged for their crimes but not any male tangentially related to them.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 03:25 PM
1

That was a big mistake. I suggest you finish it since the video was rejecting that approach to advocate for masculine virtues in men.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 01:14 AM
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No it wouldn't. The colonial arrogance of presuming those poor desperate people over there are savages.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:59 AM
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You didn't listen to her speech when she brought up male suicide and how feminism needs to do better on men's issues. HeforShe was from the powers that be ,she's not running the show but it's still her mouth and she used it to change the narrative at a critical moment.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:57 AM
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I support women and men need their support as well.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:55 AM
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So now you're an advocate for rape culture and demonizing so long as they are white western men right? You didn't take the red pill and you don't see the next mans struggle as your own. Their are awful cultures but assuming a whole race or nationality are rapist in waiting is bull crap. They're men just like you who love and care for women and among them are a few who would sooner hurt one. White men won't be vindicated by returning to racism to deflect the ire of white women.
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:54 AM
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Projection comes from both sides of the aisle complete with competing victim narratives like war on women versus war on Christians. Take on feminists but I'm sick of that focus being diluted so those on the right can circle jerk like their side isn't enabling half this crap with get tough on men politics. Did we not just read about a right wing governor tweeting the names of men who owe back child support? How many poor fathers have they incarcerated with get tough policies? Blame to go all arou…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:49 AM
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Do you want liberals here to go in on conservatives because it's too easy. Men's Rights isn't your liberal bashing corner. The lack of attention to these issues comes from both sides of the aisle like your boy Rick Scott putting the veto on bipartisan alimony reform. Next you need to stop conflating liberal with feminists. They are not one and the same with significant bscklash against identity politics in the Bermie Sanders camp trying to take on major class issues affecting all identies. We ca…
/r/MensRights28/01/16 12:44 AM
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This isn't school, it's a information sharing platform for a movement concerned with Men's Issues. When people request info it's pretty dumb to be dick about it.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 10:03 PM
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People come here for help. Plenty of people here have tons of sources or have done hundreds of hours of research. Sharing that with the public is kind of the reason why people new links every freaking day.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 10:02 PM
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I think you can broach racial disparities along gender lines by focusing on the gap between white, black and Hispanic women. The fact white women face a mere 1% lifetime risk of incarceration while white men face a rate similar to black women (around 6%) would help to illustrate a counter narrative of white female privilege being the apparent across demographics subjected to criminal justice. It's worth mentioning the racial disparities in criminal justice to avoid the appearance of agenda pushi…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 09:59 PM
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There is no implicit consent when the party is unconscious unless they have a established a rapport where waking up to sexual contact is accepted within the relationship. This too can be established implicitly, when neither party rejects it when it's done. That's a pretty common thing so we shouldn't dismiss it. That said if a person was unconscious and no rapport has been established then there'd be cause to fear the lack of consent. FYI: The best "rape" prevention method found in studies is ed…
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:45 AM
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What you describe isn't realistic or desirable for most people. That's not how they want to go about engaging in sexual contact so who are you to get in the way of their preferences? Implicit consent is a functional standard with a safe word to revoke consent just like with BDSM.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:33 AM
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Sex without consent is rape but sex without stated consent is not automatically rape. Implicit consent is apart of our everyday life in civil society. For example if a napkin dispenser or toilet is within a restaurant it's presumed customers can make use of those facilities without special permission. In the same way two lovers sharing a bed make touch one another without first requesting explicit consent every time they do so. If we asked what they'd prefer it wouldn't be what this poster sugge…
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:30 AM
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Protecting peoples rights to autonomy includes acknowledging their right to consent to sex in the manner of their choosing. Not everyone operates by the "yes means yes" mantra being imposed on them by feminists thinkers. More often than not consent is confirmed implicitly instead of explicitly. That tendency must be acknowledged by the law or most human sexual activities will be categorized as rape. What is not being denied by those in this forum is the ability of people to say no to things they…
/r/MensRights05/01/16 03:13 AM
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Why is this racist crap being posted here? I know 'Muslim' isn't a race but the xenophobia against non white men is an obvious theme here. Next we'll see the epidemic of black men raping white women or some other nonsense. This r/whiterights bullshit has no business being posted on r/mensrights.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 05:07 PM
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Getting suspended for saying you don't think black women are "hot" is freaking ridiculous. Again we see heterosexual male sexual preference is subject to control by the self appointed feminist authority. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a similar response to 'fat shaming' the way things are going. Free speech needs defending. Stating some person or some group doesn't sexually turn them on isn't hate speech.
/r/MensRights21/12/15 03:23 PM
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Why are you going after the shows presenter? Again I get the feeling it's more about him being black than anything else. The piece was mainly an attack on pick up artist. The real MRA's got a pretty fair shake aside from his ignorantly questioning the reasons for their anger in a show that presented few serious men's issues. It's no surprise he could readily expose MGTOW's for sending him all those racist comments but he didn't make the show about that. I'm not about to champion the dreaded 'saf…
/r/MensRights21/12/15 03:00 PM
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I'd be alienated by a bunch of white guys as a black guy but I don't feel entitled to sharing common cause with those who get my unflinching support or people I never disagree with. MRA's also have to embrace diversity of thought or we'll start acting like feminists purging dissent to build a hive mind. Some will rock the boat with extreme ideas while others will prefer incremental change. You need one to get things and the other to expand the overton window.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:12 PM
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The Guru is Warren Farrel but he's to0 moderate for them to readily demonize. Those writing the anti-MRA articles prefer someone they can portray as a vile misogynist.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:05 PM
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Don't be silly. If it were not for AVFM people wouldn't acknowledge the existence of a Manosphere.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:01 PM
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The same thing goes on with movements like Black Lives Matter, women's rights, and civil rights. Some pot stirrers are needed while others argue with nuance. Fear of the radicals creates room for moderates to get things done. It's Malcom X opposite MLK. It's those fighting for women's vote alongside the suffragettes. It's the r/RedPill and the r/mensrights. It's not pretty but it works, while giving a space to explore new possibilities without being overly concerned about offending the powers th…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:00 PM
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That doesn't work because context can be very important. Abandoning nuance for simplistic and extreme reductions is the path that lead social justice activists to extremism. Realistically there is such a thing as tolerable bigotry, usually when you are protecting one class from a hostile dominant one. The point that needs to be argued is whether or not a given class needs special protection. If you don't win that argument then shouting bigot every time you see a double standard will accomplish n…
/r/MensRights17/12/15 06:42 PM
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You do realize They are talking about police killing citizens? These are public sector employees not random criminals. When people step up to tell officials in the government they can't murder American citizens without consequence that's a good thing. It would be nice if Americans never killed each other but I think we can see why it's more important those who enforce the law not be so damn trigger happy.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 06:33 PM
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Because black activists are the ones trying to raise awareness while right wing pundits pandering to white voters make excuses for police who shoot unarmed (black) citizens. The police brutality issue needn't be approached from a racial perspective but doing so garners more attention and mobilizes an established activist infrastructure. Men's rights could have taken up the cause but it didn't so do #MaleLivesMatter?
/r/MensRights17/12/15 06:29 PM
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At least they are paying attention.
/r/MensRights17/12/15 06:23 PM
1

When it appears that you're not allowing others to compete for opportunities then it's a problem. This is why we react negatively to exclusionary policies that marginalize men in need like the lack of Domestic violence programs or shelters for male victims. This of course is based on the fact evidence suggest the need is there since the victims exist. In the case of sports we don't see a systemic effort to exclude nor are athletes themselves aren't average. Basketball players are very tall, and …
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:46 AM
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Because pushing for diversity doesn't make you racist or sexist unless you take some extremist view of those definitions that would make even raising the issue of racism or sexism, an act of racism or sexism.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:34 AM
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Why? Are white males not good enough for her? Are non whites and women not good enough for that company? How do you think we got down this road? Assuming only white men were suitable candidates was once dominant view attitude within the culture. Diversity initiatives came about to challenge that. If their was only black females and a white male CEO said the same thing there would be outrage Prove it. I don't think you can and I don't think you can make a case for white males being statistically …
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:33 AM
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I admit to being presumptuous about race when confronting a racial backlash but let me not pretend that only whites are capable of antipathy towards Black Americans. Even Blacks themselves can have these tendencies. When that one person is hired because of their race or sex, yeah. That's called racism and sexism, and it's the exact sort of thing you're trying to argue for AND against. Yes, but where would that put efforts to get more men in Elementary education or more males attaining degrees to…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:27 AM
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Black people can be racist. Women can be sexist. Wanting diversity in general does not make you that. Do you understand? It's not very complicated. I only assume I'll dealing with some kind of white backlash because her comments were too tame to raise eyebrows unless you're primed to overreact, even for MRA's. It wasn't even gender exclusive or focused. Her idea of diversity was simply any identity other than white males being included in the upper management or sales team. Who else would be pri…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:14 AM
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I'm not trolling, I'm standing up for the moral high ground you seem to care nothing about. The ability to see through bullshit is based on solid evidence not our whims. That's what keeps Men's Rights based amid a shit storm of endless controversy and counter cultural narratives. Periodically I see a lot (far right) people spouting off base white rights screeds instead of dealing with men's issues where the evidence is solidly on their side. This nonsense come in waves. The first time I saw it w…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:13 AM
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You the one pulling the "oh-woe-is-me bullshit" without evidence. If MRA's consisted of men like you then everything the media has been saying about MRA's would appear valid. You can careless and that's why you should be repudiated at least. A caricature straight out of Michael Kimmel's "Angry White Men" isn't what the movement needs.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 10:02 AM
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Grow up.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 09:52 AM
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Yes BLACK MRA. That's the diversity thing you see, when you know they exist then you notice that it's not a white male rights movement. The REAL MRA in my opinion would be those promoting awareness of Men's Issues from a evidence based perspective not a bunch of out of touch angry white guys mindlessly lashing out at women and minorities because they listened to too much Michael Savage. "When white people can't get jobs for no other reason than the color of their skin, and none of you idiots hav…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 09:50 AM
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One of the first rules when engaging with the Regressive Left is to hold them accountable to their own standards. Right there I already know I'm dealing with some right wing idealogue instead of a genuine Mens Rights Activists. I just finished reading a article about alimony reform going through the Florida legislator again because Republican Rick Scott vetoed the last bill. This is not some partisan fight where taking down the left or right assures victory. More importantly the slavish adherenc…
/r/MensRights16/12/15 08:55 AM
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Maybe you need to stop calling people 'bitch' especially women when people are trying to label you misogynist thus undermining the wider cause we fight for. Grow up.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:43 PM
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No she wasn't. The goal was to have diversity outside of white men alone. That means if a Asian man was there she wouldn't be complaining.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:42 PM
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Apparently wanting any diversity in white male exclusive faces is racism and sexism to you and you wonder why people rally behind the feminists and SJW's.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:41 PM
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It's not even accurate. She said women or minorities. That does not necessitate they had to be women of color. It doesn't sound great, it sounds like a ethnic slur against female minorities in a forum that's already accused of being a racist hub of angry sexist white men. This isn't /pol, it's not r/redpill, it's Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:38 PM
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She wants them to try and hire other kinds of people instead of only white males. At no point were white males locked out the process, a process they already dominate hands down. This is the very low end of pushing diversity when there are no other groups represented. It's different when you have 10 or 15% women and demand 50% representation. You are pushing this corny butt hurt bullshit that sounds just as extreme as a SJW insisting all white men to be kept out the hiring process. Going from on…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:36 PM
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So you want only 'white dicks', see the problem? Disrespect is disrespect.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:30 PM
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Everyone is racist and sexist but white men opposing diversity initiatives right? See your own extremism. It's your attitude that make the quota pushers seem necessary when even adding one non white male to a team is too much.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:29 PM
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You think when white men lashing out like this over a black female CEO saying something we've heard a 1000 times from white CEO's male and female that race is no longer an issue? Time to get real about who is trying to strong arm who into silence. It's one thing to call out some over the top SJW stuff but this is far from controversial. Wanting some diversity where there is NONE isn't worthy of push back. This isn't a quota for 50% women but a expectation that there'd be some women or minorities…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:26 PM
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Yeah I am saying that. For real this is why people associate MRA's with a bunch of white nationalists white men who think their oppressed because women and minorities can compete for their jobs. This movement isn't the white man's backlash against the colored and female hordes out to take their jobs, it's about finding balance in the gender debate so that we may address true injustices against men not bullshit narrative about white men being locked out the job market when this lady is telling yo…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:21 PM
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I hear you.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:18 PM
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Nobody needs to be fired. What she was suggested was that you might want to add someone to the team that wasn't a white male. If she's asserting that white males hold a monopoly on this particular employment opportunity then it's fucking absurd to claim white males are in fact the victims. You should let her assertion stand instead of acting all butt hurt because she expects the other 70% of America to be represented somewhere at the top of that company. The whole narrative would change if there…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 02:18 PM
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This is that white supremacy thing right where blacks have to kiss white ass so ya'll can feel powerful? No we're not doing that and those SJW types for all their vices end up looking like heroes everytime racist whites try to pull this crap. Please drop the racial entitlement for men's rights and your own good.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 11:24 AM
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Yeah... run the black lady out her job for wanting diversity like that's so radical. White male CEO say same thing all the time and it's cool. Do you see your own racial backlash? Ellen Pao had a point when she mentioned this effect. I'd like to think the real MRA's have more self awareness.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 11:19 AM
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Yes there are cultural differences but a lot of this has historic roots brought about by segregation and white supremacy being the dominant culture. Only racial minorities immigrants from non white suprimacist regions seem to escape it's cumulative impact.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 11:15 AM
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White supremacy is kind of a thing, a historically destructive thing that we are still overcoming today.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 11:11 AM
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White men are simply harder working, ambitious and just have it more together than anyone else So you are saying that you're a white suprimacist? Get it together dude, dare I say it's 2015 like a feminists... The white rights types remain a problem because they aren't deriving their perspectives from the evidence but rather resorting to the same reflexive bigotry and fear mongering as prior generations of white nationalist. You want to prove oppression or disadvantage then show it in the stats, …
/r/MensRights15/12/15 11:09 AM
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Hate is a strong word. Hate perhaps the perspectives being advanced and some bad actors more interested in consolidateling power than doing what's right by humanity.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:48 AM
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You sound pathetic playing victim when someone says only white men had these jobs. If they're effectively hated in a meaningful sense that wouldn't be the case. What.you're looking at is resentment of one narrow demographic being represented at a meeting with many suppliers. Sure they could be in Iowa or Vermont but half the people are still women. I'd expect some tokens at the least but when only white guys get promoted it looks suspect even to those sympathetic to the MRA cause.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:46 AM
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It was both being that all the reps were white men. Expecting some kind of diversity isn't crazy talk.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:41 AM
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Because it wasn't a big deal. This is some gutter trash from the fear the brown people section of the internet. I been involved with Mens Rights long enough to know what gets the true supporters riled up and it's not this. This is Trump supporter click bait, not MRA.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:40 AM
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This nasty underbelly shows up when they are forced to deal with race. If she wasn't a black women you wouldn't see all this outrage.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:37 AM
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No request for quotas made so it behooves you to stop making shit up.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:36 AM
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HR tends to be female dominated and a study I read about says handsome men have a better shot than pretty women in these circumstances.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:35 AM
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How much racism is against this women with comments like "colored vaginas" being upvoted?
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:34 AM
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This isn't about some SJW nonsense. This isn't some 20 year old gender studies major whining about things they know nothing about but a CEO whose been running major corporation. Unless you think Walmart isn't about their money I suggest you check yourself and quit lashing because a "colored vagina" as so many of you put it has a high profile job instead of a white man. It's looking like that and that makes us all look like fools for associating with you.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:33 AM
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Keep up that bullshit and see how fast MRA is reduced to a Trump supporter. Yoi already crossed the line thinking Mens Rights is a place to start disrespecting women and calling them bitches. The red pill is only a link away, take that bullshit elsewhere. Beyond that the racial antipathy is palpable. It's obvious her color and gender is your real issue as if merit had nothing to do with her being CEO. The MRA can't afford to be yet another playground for angry bigots terrified the brown ones or …
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:28 AM
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NOTHING OF THE SORT WAS STATED OR IMPLIED! I see hysterical over reaction like this peaks when black women are involved. No you guys aren't abovw the B.S. Complaining like white men are locked out the game when they were everyone at the meeting except for her. Get it together. There are good battles and others that will expose you as the nasty stereotype feminists try to make of you.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:22 AM
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She noticed there were no people of color or women. Not even the usual splattering of Asians. This colored vaginas nonsense is disgusting Trump style demagoguery. The lack of women was a after thought. A room full of only white males isn't diverse especially when we're talking about many different company reps coming together. She didn't complain about them being the majority, she complained because it was all of them.
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:18 AM
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Right now men's rights activists are raising the alarm about our under performing boys and drawing attention to the massive gap in degree attainment on higher education. This merit only attitude will insure boys are pushed to the side like minorities were not so long ago so be careful what you wish for. As is collefe admissions are already employing under the table affirmative action to enroll more boys so the gender ratio is even more dramatically favoring women. Diversity has some value and be…
/r/MensRights15/12/15 10:10 AM
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Neither the right nor the left takes men's issues seriously. As a MRA you should have figured that out already. There is not a single candidate in either party with a men's agenda. Let that soak in and realize the traditionalist right and progressive left will not be reliable allies until MRA's effectively challenge the mainstream narrative on gender.
/r/MensRights10/12/15 10:45 PM
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MRA's need to know there is only a small statistical difference between men and women on the abortion issue.
/r/MensRights07/12/15 12:40 AM
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This is the kind of mass censorship the people need to fear. When political content is banned from social media like Reddit we need to collectively rise up and resist regardless of our political affiliations. If Pao were still running things that's exactly what would happen but the white guy isn't inspiring the anti censorship army. Shocked I'm saying this but Pao may have had a point. It's also possible that momentum was lost. Either way I see those in power completing their plans to marginaliz…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 11:16 PM
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These women are fighting FOR MEN! Please don't react to theae things like a feminists. The men are dead and their wives and sisters are fighting to get them justice. I respect that. This film celebrates six women who have honoured the men they lost there by fighting, for longer than any of them could have anticipated, for justice, accountability and re-entry into the mine’s drift to retrieve the bodies of their loved ones. As we meet each of them we learn about their husbands, partners, brothers…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 10:39 AM
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Still not a MRM issue. They might be duped into embracing feminists theory but their cause isn't centered on gender nor a anti-male perspective. Sadly it does represent the subversive feminists idealogy has infiltrated racial justice just as legit causes gain traction. These priveleged kids who declare themselves the chief victims of oppression will probably play themselves out in a fairly short time once the ridicule goes mainstream. I just hope they don't take the legit activist down with them…
/r/MensRights13/11/15 12:07 AM
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Personally I like the ad campaign. It's not misandric and it puts a complex issue in simple terms. What hasn't been tacked is the issue of two drunks drinking tea or if you can consent to tea while drunk. That isn't so easy but it makes up the majority of these gray area situations. You won't be labeled a rapist for offering drunk people tea or allowing them to consume it.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 10:01 PM
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Calling the calling out of racism racist is plain stupid. I dind it amazing that those trying to condemn feminists suddenly defend them when white feminists get cslled on their privelege despite calling out white feminists for raising petty issues which reveal their privilege. Discussion of race isn't racism. If you're not making a case for actual oppression or systemic disadvantages then shut the hell up. Let the facts do the talking not some bullshit victim complex. We've had enough of that fr…
/r/MensRights21/08/15 06:24 AM
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It's sad that major men's issues like this don't get much traction in the Men's Rights circles.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:38 PM
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You'd be embracing the feminists narrative not challenging it.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:37 PM
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It needs to be addressed but increased male propensity for criminality and violence is comparable to their propensity to pursue high risk high reward life paths. If we take on the position incarceration rates must be the same then we can say the same for CEO leadership and such where we accept men are more likely to pursue these top roles than women.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:36 PM
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I'm not a feminists that assumes all gender differences are socialized. I don't think that's where you are coming from but it kinda sounds like it.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:33 PM
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That's might makes right logic and when the shoe is on the other foot you'd be begging for compassion from those who hold the power to make your life hell. The 'superior system' was to mitigate the power of the powerful to prevent exploitation and that's why we work hard to create a fairer society we can be proud of. Even kids figure this stuff out on the playground. Lord of the flies isn't an ideal human society.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:21 PM
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It is rather pathetic to see white social justice activist complain about white supremacy primarily for the purposes of expanding their dominance over the social justice conversation. White feminists claiming the racial narrative to give credence to their own inflated sense of victimhood has been a problem that went unchallenged for far too long. For those hostile to all aspects of identity politics this kind of comparative analysis between the challenges of race(class) versus gender might fly o…
/r/MensRights13/08/15 11:16 PM
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Calling this a racist article is the 'white rights' canard. Stick to fact based arguments or you'll sound dim witted as this WaPo writer insinuating PUA HATE was some kind of a men's rights group. Men's Right has no problem proving systemic anti male bias or the it's disastrous consequences. Whites can't pull that off with race and look like racist for even trying. Let truth be your guide not blind rage at identity politics.
/r/MensRights28/07/15 10:49 PM
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Race is clearly the bigger issue not that the gender disparity isn't worthy of discussion.
/r/MensRights26/07/15 05:20 PM
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Black folks don't have the numbers or power to go it alone. Black men end up relying on men's rights the same way black women depended om feminists. In much the same way we see both being biases towards upper class concerns due to the relative economic advantages of those dominating the conversation leaving the more likely to be poor minorities without effective representation.
/r/MensRights22/07/15 03:14 PM
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If you are using Trump as an example for 'being a man', you're a freaking idiot. It's like using a demagogic feminists as a model for women. He's a egocentric raging bigot. His self aggrandizement and narcissism is far from manly. A man in the traditional sense let's his actions speaks. The self promoting crap was associated with hustlers and other men of poor character. Other than that he's obviously a bigot who plays on other's xenophobic and or racist impulses to bring himself fame and attent…
/r/MensRights13/07/15 03:22 PM
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He should have called the police to remove her. Him losing his job is on him and I understand why the chain felt he didn't handle the situation properly. Physically dragging ex employees out the establishment is not his job nor would it be a women's if she had to remove a man of his size.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 05:44 PM
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Sounds like Red Pill logic. Screw the aspects compassion men's rights and berate men as losers for having a emotional response like love for a women. Why bother complaining about feminists when this is how Men's Activists treat men.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 05:40 PM
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The lack of compassion for men constitutes a "Men's Rights" issue and clearly too many men have failed to heed the words of Warren Farrel. Try listening to his lectures or reading his book before undermining the very cause he and so many others are fighting for. Calling people stupid for falling in love is inhumane. The guy needed compassion and he shouldn't have to kill himself before we notice that like so many other young men in our societies.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 05:39 PM
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I feel sorry for a young man caught up in waves of emotion he couldn't deal with the same way I would a young women. u/SillyMod recently posted an account of a young man dealing with a mentally unstable women that was his close friend who was taken for a ride by a clearly manipulative individual. Promoting compassion for men is the cause, learn to respect that.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 05:35 PM
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You should because compassion or men is what men's rights is about. If you want to be a smug ass try feminism, they seem to like that mentality but drop it soon as a female victim comes along that plays into their narrative. The boy wasn't treated right by that girl and the fact he was a sucker for love only makes him human. She has every right to reject him but that should have been made clear before he flew to china. He could have sobbed himself to sleep at home.
/r/MensRights09/07/15 05:33 PM
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He shot 6 black women and 3 black men. Elliot stabbed his nerdy male sexless roommates to death for a death toll of 4 men and 2 women after leaving a manifesto about being sexless driving him to murder. He is not like Elliot. This was a white supremacist that hated black people and intended to start a race war. A White feminists trying to coopt a racial terror attack to reframe as white women being victims of sexism is disgusting.
/r/MensRights22/06/15 05:49 PM
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I don't recall people presuming the Boston Bombers were just crazy people. This was a intentional act of racial terrorism motivated by hate. I blame his ideology not his brain chemistry.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 10:12 PM
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Women's choices of partner and when they choose to get pregnant matter more than anything else. Kathryn Edin had done some great research on it and blaming men alone is dead wrong.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 10:07 PM
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I don't 20% isn't all that shocking when 80% do not. Few people are aware of the long string of high profile rape cases that have been debunked. Most coverage was focused on hyping the accusations and relatively little on the collapse of those stories with the UVA case being a rare exception. The few who follow these issues closely have a different perspective.
/r/MensRights17/06/15 02:41 AM
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All of them. Women and men have mutual interest in promoting fairness. What's gone on is demagoguery from dialogues who redefine unfair arrangements as fair. The mainstream narrative is the problem not the people.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 11:33 PM
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Did they speak? Were voters deterred? Do you have actual complainants who avoided voting due to intimidation? We see far more egregious efforts to deter voters coming from right wing governors cutting voting options, locations, and hours. The right promoting an irrational fear of black people needs to stop. It's just as bad as what feminists have been doing with men for decades.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 11:30 PM
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No it wasn't all about race.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:12 PM
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Yes the majority of white people were to blame for Jim Crow since they were the only ones who could vote. That was not a small group of white people with power. The culture of America itself was deeply racist and constructed to advantage whites over all others. Even among whites there was racism to privilege certain white ethnic groups. It's good that white culture evolved and if it did not then Jim Crow wouldn't have ended. What you need to understand is that racial groups on the margins depend…
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:12 PM
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Of course women hold power. They make up half the managers in USA. The most powerful people delegate their power to less powerful people and a far greater proportion of them are women than are represented in those at the very top.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:06 PM
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" Call me racist all you want. It doesn't mean shit."
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:05 PM
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If you want to claim discrimination in a meaningful way you ought demonstrate it causing said group to be disadvantaged, otherwise it sounds like a lot of whine.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:04 PM
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Being scared of black people standing in a corner doesn't count as voter intimidation.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:02 PM
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I'm liberal. The lack of liberals would spell doom for the MRM because those on the right tend to suck at identity politics and messaging. The language of social justice must be applied more broadly than it has been under feminists domination. Liberals are the people who do that best.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 02:00 PM
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You are a freaking idiot. I consider stupidity like this to be black propaganda with the intent of sabotaging the cause you claim you are fighting for. I see the right wing/ feminists extremist mentality all over your comments. There is a complete lack of respect for pluralism, democracy or the possibility you might be wrong and ought be challenged. Women aren't the problem. Men aren't the problem. Bad ideas going unchallenged is the problem and adding more to the heap with a mechanisms to preve…
/r/MensRights10/06/15 01:53 PM
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Give me a break with the hating women nonsense. Women get far more respect from MRAs than they do in the general population or men from feminists. The egalitarian issue I see are the inability to take minoritiy men's issues seriously. You have a large movement to reform criminal justice with our 93.3% male prison population but it's a back burner issue for the men's movement along with police using excessive force that sent people to the streets in the tens of thousands around the country. Were …
/r/MensRights29/05/15 01:16 PM
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The list goes on. Ninety-four percent of the 850 defendants observed by PROP were people of color, according to the report. Plenty more of the accounts take place above ground. That's the big take away for me and I'm sure it's over 90% male. The targeting of men and minorities by police is a real issue. They're the low hanging fruit for cops on ticket or arrest quotas.
/r/MensRights29/05/15 01:07 PM
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Calling people white trash is straight up classist and the hypocrits using social justice for their catty elitist bullshit need to be exposed and purged. Narcissist like this lady are a prime example of why the cause of the underprivileged shouldn't be left to pretentious snobs at fancy schools who prefer to bully instead of build bridges thus making life even harder for the truly marginalized.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:11 PM
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The white Feminist war on white men was always chuck full of hypocrisy. Their own privelege in the society came from white men's efforts to privelege White's above all others, an effort that white women played a significant role in sustaining. We can see old photos of white women smiling at lynchings and spitting on black students being integrated into white schools. Today we have Megan Kelly on fox who could pass for a white nationalist with her race baiting obsession with the New Black Panther…
/r/MensRights17/05/15 07:39 PM
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He got shot in the hand like one would do to avoid getting shot by an officer who drew their gun. You don't have evidence, just a narrative you prefer. Meanwhile I can simply pick up the various shootings on video and make an ass out of you. Call me racist all you want. It doesn't mean shit. People like you became irrelevant after Walter Scott. Not even Fox News wants to play your game anymore because they are tired of looking racist and stupid.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 09:12 PM
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The MRM needs to get behind the movement to fight police brutality since it's men white and black getting beat up or killed by law enforcement in alarming numbers. They tend to leave it alone because it's seen as a black issue instead of the first time we've seen a social justice movement to protect men fight it's way into the mainstream in a long time. It's ridiculous how often I find myself explaining why another (black) man's life matters in a Men's Rights movement. I make sure I take out tim…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 09:08 PM
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No racism isn't racism. Racism requires power to do real harm if not you are left to thought policing for it's own sake. We have seen how far SJW's have taken that logic. This is not that junction point where universal humanism with common standards replaces all identity politics. Maybe down the road but not now. While we work our way there telling the minorities and powerless they can't talk about identity based attacks waged against them by a dominant identity groups would simply empower the d…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 09:02 PM
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Amen to that.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:57 PM
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Saudis didn't abolish slavery until the 1980's.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:57 PM
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Yes it's bad but if there is no exception for minorities or those who lack power to speak out against groups who dominate and abuse them we'll leave the door open for far more injustice. We have to find a balance and I think it's in discerning the legitimacy of the claims being made. In the case of this particular minority she has more power than those she's claiming are oppressing her and is abusing it. She's no victim and her generalizations are self serving and malicious. We have the same thi…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:55 PM
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If it's so simple then how do you suppose blacks could discuss Jim Crow in the 1960's without speaking ill of white people? When you have a legit oppressor group actively engaged in oppression you have to talk about them. That's not the case for this professor who's whining about students with less power than she has with less proclivity toward racism than any group of white students in American history. That's nothing special since white feminists have been doing the exact same thing for years …
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:53 PM
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Not even close. Jews were a minority that could easily be overpowered. What's going on with the white men fearing persecution for being white is the sort of thing Nazis did to drive nationalistic fervor for brutal acts against minorities.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:44 PM
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That sounds like a white supremacists analysis of history.You speak as if these other civilizations contributed little or nothing when it was there knowledge that took Europe out the dark ages. From Arabic numbers to the mathematics that built the pyramids we see a Europe that benefited from the intellectual contributions of many societies. The last few hundred years of technological evolution have been breathtaking but so has the destruction that came along with it. The colored people of the wo…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:42 PM
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Do you really want to talk about the founding of America? It's not going to make white men look good.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:38 PM
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We are going to need ladies help and they are going to need ours. The gender wars need to go so we can cooperate without using shame and and social aggression to intimidate one another.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:37 PM
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It's a classic right wing white race baiting article. They don't care about misandry and the MRA's here trying to make it a race thing don't either. She's under attack for being a black women repeating the same white feminists rhetoric we've heard for years. I find the whole thing suspect.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:36 PM
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The 1% is a minority but they aren't a disadvantaged minority.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:32 PM
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The prejudice + power rules work out just fine so long as you have evidence of discrimination by those with power. If they are powerless you end up wasting your time whining about pettiness just like feminists thinking any man that annoys them some how is an oppressor.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:32 PM
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No it doesn't. You seem to think people care about the plight of white men. They do not and the fact I do is astounding amid the racial animus against black and black men in particular that's stinking up the MRM. Masses of people finally stood up to defend black men from police abuse and MRA's are missing in action. Another opportunity lost over petty racial biases.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:30 PM
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Meanwhile she's being targeted because she's a black women and we have thousands of instances of white men and women saying the same stuff over many years. It's not racist until black people do it? How convenient.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:28 PM
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Yes, ethnic minorities can be racist against whites. Where they wield the power to do so. If you try to argue this point amid a emerging Civil Rights movement taking on race issue we've overlooked for decades you'll find yourself more marginalized than you already are. The explicit targeting of white males is coming from whites. Minorities take up these positions for the same reason whites do. It's a good way to social climb in white dominated social justice circles. Outside of that the issue wi…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:27 PM
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As the MRM grows it's important that those who know the original values try to maintain them or people will start acting just like feminists. The goal was to end the gender war not just start another front.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:19 PM
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I'm get where he's coming from and he has a good point. Once AVFM started censoring dissent they lost the moral high ground. As a SJW style movement trying to bully people into submission the MRA cannot survive. It's moral authority through evidenced based arguments and inclusive open debate are all it has going for it. The other nonsense is doing the work of it's opposition for it. I think in coming years feminism will evolve and if by that time the MRM hasn't matured it will be left behind.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:17 PM
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Of course she can be racist. Being a minority was never an exclusion since most racial, tribal, sectarian, and ethnic power disputes on earth are between non white peoples. Go ask the Tamils of Sri Lanka if non whites can be racist.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:11 PM
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If you can operate within the power standard then you ought to do so. If you can't then you probably have nothing to complain about but some powerless person who dislikes you for a stupid reason. Whining about offense for it's own sake is something we should have had enough of by now. Let's talk about what's taking a wrecking ball to peoples lives.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:09 PM
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There is nothing wrong with prejudice + power. If you have a problem with that then you are probably mad about someone who didn't have power which means you were wasting your time. When make a big deal out of a reasonable standard that serves to protect people from abuse of power rather than offense you become too much like the SJW's you fight. Men suffer injustice and abuse at the institutional and public policy level. There is no problem arguing that today's misandry is backed by power and mos…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 08:06 PM
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That's how MRAs should think considering they are the ones kept out the conversation because powerful people don't want them to be heard. I'm seeing the MRM forget it's principles and it's sad. Just give these right wing MRAs some power and we'll have SJW 2.0 in a week.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:47 PM
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The evil white men put them on boats like sardines and tossed the many dead who couldn't survive months of living hell into the ocean. Who needs to give a fuck about your pettiness when your trying to erase the horror of slavery. Yes it happened around the world but those places didn't call themselves the land of the free.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:43 PM
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Add on the fact she's being singled out because she's a black women. We know how common this rhetoric is so no need to play dumb. If she needs to be fired then so does every gender studies department across the nation.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:40 PM
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Now MRAs are calling for professors to be fired over their political views? It's amazing how fast they learned to behave and think like SJWs once right wing press stepped up to media lynch a black women for ideas popularized propagated by white feminists. I got plenty to say about White America and we can start with the irrational fear of racial minorities being sold as a solution to America's problems. As if these attacks on white men were about race and not misandy. This is men's rights where …
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:23 PM
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He reached for a firearm like those two black men committed suicide by gun while cuffed in the backs of police cars last year. You pick the version of the story that justifies extra judicial killings of blacks by default. That's the racism people are marching to protest. It should not have to happen on video for you to get the damn point.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:30 PM
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If a white dude said these things you wouldn't even be complaining so cut the crap. You are extra mad because it's a black women and it's corny.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:28 PM
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He did not dream of an America where white racist were calling black people racist so whites could control conversation on racism.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:26 PM
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No he'd see you guys singling her out and realize your racism is a more serious problem. Like a Men's Rights movement that studiously avoids a massive uprising on behalf of black men. The hypocrisy is going to end you. Learn from your ancestors.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:15 PM
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Right kind of prejudice. If you want to talk racism you'll have to prove whites are being denied opportunities in such a way that their demographic becomes disadvantaged. Using an example where 90% of jobs go to whites and some program reduces that to 85% by intentionally selecting some non whites isn't a compelling argument. You want to claim victimhood? Prove it. The MRM is evidenced based not white pride based. You don't have a argument other than hurt feelings putting you firmly in SJW terri…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:14 PM
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Tumblr SJW's look a lot smarter than the white rights crowd invading men's rights. They share the same propensity for media manufactured victimhood be it from the left or right. I imagine next war it will be the Christians and why the rich are oppressed by poor people on welfare. If you want to make the case for white oppression you have to prove it. You can't, you just whine, so shut up.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:01 PM
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Why doesn't the black community stop sucking at holding members of their community accountable? Who says they aren't held accountable for their life choices? You expect black people to devote the bulk of their public efforts to castigating one another rather than addressing the institutions currently persecuting them on an unprecedented level. I don't think you understand how deep the injustice goes and I can't blame you since it hasn't benefited from mass media coverage much like other men's is…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 02:54 PM
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Rallying to the support of thieves turned assailants has nothing to do with civil rights, regardless of their race. No rights were violated, except perhaps the rights of Darren Wilson. Innocent until proven guilty. Rights to due process. Being accused of a crime is not a death sentence. Basic enough for you? Darren Wilson worked for the state and was accosting young men for walking in the street before he had probable cause. Gamergate handles itself against white attackers constantly. In fact, t…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:47 PM
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Feminists are just about the only people in our society who don't attack black masculinity. You were saying?
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:40 PM
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"Why do black people need to be given a stage to speak for themselves? I am speaking to you on the internet where everyone has a voice. " How has that worked out for the MRM or GamerGate? Access to mass media outlets is crucial and it has to be granted by those who control them. I need you guys to stop sucking at social justice and I need you to recognize that's what you're doing.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:15 PM
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400+ comments now for a generic attack on white men like we've seen a 1000 times before simply because the lady is black. It's too late to play dumb. The mob has spoken and it appears to have an irrational fear of black people.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:03 PM
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Go ahead and talk about my hate. It's about to be a problem if ya'll keep reviving this white supremacist mentality. I see hundreds of comments over the 'black threat' because one black women said something about white men that hundreds of white men and women have been saying in mass media. White male bashing went mainstream a while ago but this lady makes it on to fox news. I can see color.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:01 PM
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The legacy of white supremacy is staring us in the face along with it's modern incarnations. MRA's should know the statistics and make evidenced based arguments. You mentioned Baltimore: "We traced the experience of nearly 800 children in Baltimore for more than 25 years, from the time they entered first grade in the fall of 1982 in 20 Baltimore public schools to well into their third decade. Half their families were low income, according to school records, and the typical low-income parent hadn…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 11:00 AM
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Then you don't rally to the defense of Civil Liberties or Constitutional rights which is pretty important for Men's Rights. You want to be the meanest jack ass around but that's not how you help vulnerable men, be they mentally ill or those on the wrong side of the law. Let's consider that mentally ill black man gunned down seconds after the police showed up just for holding a screw driver or the white man gunned down by 3 officers in New Mexico who was shot with bean bags and attacked by a dog …
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:38 AM
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You are one of those? Classic SJW style deflection and I expect it from the far right since their a lot like the far left.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:18 AM
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I'm called the racist while you dog pile on the one black women you see complaining about white men despite white feminists doing this for decades with it becoming mainstream online over the last 10 years. I'm not surprised that you again choose to raise your white rights flag right on top of men's rights as if declaring the white majority oppressed by whites who've become self conscientious of their statistically privileged status relative to minorities. Challenging the gender paradigm advanced…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 11:54 PM
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Actually women and racial minorities were effectively banned from those pursuits to protect white male power. That's our history and we ought not run from it. On the gender front a lots changed but racially we're dealing with people starting from much further behind since they don't already share the same families.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:40 PM
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The far right is as hard headed as hardcore SJW's. They do mindless outrage not logic.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:38 PM
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Blacks have been fighting this shit for several hundred years and they still have to convince white America extra judicial killings of black men by state officials is a problem. I don't complaining about getting shot dead is a petty issue. This stuff is on video. It's not a question of what happened, it's if you give a damn about the life of the person shot which happens to be male 95% of the time. Where was Men's Rights on this? Crickets... Everybody can see what you're about. Then you decide i…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:35 PM
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Look at the down votes I get at Men's Rights for raising black issues. White supremacy hasn't gone anywhere. You sugar coat your bullshit by claiming 'reverse racism' or some other crap excuse. Men's Rights is quickly turning into a massive failure because white guys would rather hate on black guys than ride the wave of people standing up for a Men's issues by actually taking to the streets. Go ahead and whine your asses off. Nobody is going to care about such flaming hypocrites who were unpopul…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:33 PM
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Is that community fighting for men's rights or is it just looking for a wedge issue to bash liberals with? I tried recruiting Right wingers to the cause but all they weren't trying to help anybody. All they wanted to do was hate liberals by spouting cheesy talking points like politicians. Men's rights values standing up for men and boys. That's the point not right wing 'values' which have contributed to their problems along with liberal 'values'.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:26 PM
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All the issues you mentioned are old. There is nothing new going on. Women's Liberation feminsm is a half century old making the new breed of radicals reactionaries repeating the outdated rhetoric of their grand mothers. Political attacks on Gay Rights and Abortion are old as fundamentalist(now Evangelical) Christians involvement in our politics. The critique of White America dates back to the first time one could do so without being lynched by White Americans. What's new is an opportunity to ch…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:21 PM
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If you want to mouth off like a teenager throwing a tantrum there are plenty of places to do that. What's next calling them whores? White women have been bashing white men in the mainstream media for a really long time so it's pretty damn obvious your problem is the women being black. Just google 'white male feminism' and you'll get thousands of articles and blogs by white men and women saying the same damn things. Post one of them and you won't see 200 comments. That's a race thing.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:56 PM
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No they do that at debates during the Republican Presidential Primaries or perhaps you'd prefer Barak Obama lecturing black men on Fathers Day. Now admit some of this criticism is fair but I'm more interested in challenging the claim it doesn't exist. Reagan ran on the 'welfare queen' demagoguery. Welfare reform didn't end right wing race baiting by claiming blacks and Hispanics are driving up white peoples taxes with their dependency. Never mind we're talking about single digit percentages of f…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:52 PM
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Entitled people can be an issue across the races and sexes but singling out black males is asking to be mocked. They are likely the most beleaguered demographic in America. Native American men provide some competition but there are 6 time as many black men in the country.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:41 PM
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Do you have a high school level education in history? If not I suspect that's the problem. It's not an indictment of white people so much as white power at the nation state level and it's impact on colored peoples in the past few hundred years. From that we still retain a defacto culture of white supremacy and Euro-centrism. When you learn to actually debate like a grown up instead of using corny SJW evasion tactics you might be able to handle a serious conversation about ideas you may or may no…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:37 PM
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Feel free to move to a country that's beyond reproach.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:33 PM
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You are also skipping the main point of Jehu bringing that up. He was pointing to it as a ramification and proof of black guys also being cocky and entitled and catered to. The point was to highlight that not only white males should be characterized that way. For you to misportray that Males in general should not be characterized that way simply for being male. You are shooting your foot off with these arguments. It's like a lot of you never debated a feminists. Don't concede the point, especial…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:51 PM
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I'm aware of divide and conquer tactics but that is also the legacy of racism in America. White guys should be clever enough to notice who wields the power in this society. White self loathing is a mechanism of white social climbing. It's not impressing minorities who are busy wondering why these supposed white saviors studiously avoid giving them a platform to speak for themselves. This black lady is a feminists which means she puts gender first not issues of race or class. She aligns with a wh…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:49 PM
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It's just racism and the 'race card' is feminists exploiting the cause of racial justice to make their gender arguments. That's much should be obvious but instead we white men going into victim mode as if whiteness just became a leading indicator of social oppression. It's easy to scapegoat white men because they statistically are in a good position. The same is true for white women who form families with white men. If you stick to fighting misandry you have a solid case but claims of racism aga…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:44 PM
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My accusations are spot on and you can tack on your apparent immaturity. This is Men's Rights not Red Pill but you can care less about being misogynistic because you think you're ass is going to get kissed. Giving a damn matters and clearly you don't.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:40 PM
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Pinhead, what are you an ORiely junkie or a Ditto head? Right wing group think is lame as SJW's proclaiming phony victimhood from Ivory Towers. You want everyone to pity your asses because you think they aren't being kissed enough. Let's talk about the people who really are getting shat on be it the white or black men gunned down by police or those sitting in prison because they are too poor to pay child support. You won't stand up for them. You would rather hate by calling one a moocher who fee…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:29 PM
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We can look at some of the faces on our money and find those who ordered the killing of the innocent or kept fellow humans as slaves. The moral high horse of American exceptionalism is built on selective outrage. This country has an ugly history and has caused the deaths of millions.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:20 PM
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First time I seen that word used here and it's because it's a black women. Ya'll hate extra for the black ones and I see that now and it's a big part of why people don't want to take you seriously. The racial hatred of blacks by whites seems endemic in America. That's why people call it out in the first place. This thread proves the 'toxic' point. Have a white female professor say the same thing and 'bitch' will never be written.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:16 PM
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You know other races in America have long been familiar with that feeling. Welcome to the club. I see a bunch of white guys losing their heads because a black female said what a crap load of white women have been saying for years.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:14 PM
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You suck at defending white men because you really about finding excuses to hate others. I mean seriously she wants 'hand outs'? All blacks want welfare right? I see way too much of this from the conservatives who discover Men's Rights. Not everything is an excuse to run your war against the poor propaganda from the Right wing elite. They don't care about tax liability of welfare, it's the crushing of the classes beneath them who threaten their power. If they have their way you'll see another 30…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:08 PM
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White girls have been saying the same thing on far larger platforms for a long time but white MRA's finally discover a black one and lose their mind. Ya'll are not looking good and without minority support the charges of bigger angry white men will stick. You can't prove the racial oppression of whites but you can prove misandry. It's your fear of other races driving you to focus on 'white pride'.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:06 PM
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So much of this sounds like fear of black men as sexual competitors which is what anti racist have theorized as the motive for white male animus towards black males. I'm never talking about white men being with black women. I do not care even if they only want to date white guys. You guys look real suspect when you infuse complaints like this at a Men's Rights forum. Too threatened by competition between men to stand up for men. Not good.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:02 PM
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Attacking black masculinity has been done but feminism isn't nearly as popular at Historically Black Universities as it is in white dominated liberal schools. I guess the 5 to 1 female to male ratios make black male dominance theories sound ridiculous.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:54 PM
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Did you contest it?
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:51 PM
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Robert McNamara has him beat by a long shot.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:51 PM
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Statistics show males are a problem population. If you use that sort of logic feminists win and men get demonized so don't. We have way too many people here who couldn't win a debate with feminists to save their lives. They spent generations trying to define men as a problem population and you hand it to them on a platter to degrade another race of men. That's pretty dumb especially when you're trying to not look like a racist.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:49 PM
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Blacks have been dealing with white hostility and apathy for hundreds of years. The ones interested in reducing the issue to white men are white women seeking power by establishing themselves in the role of societies victims. That role does little for blacks since White America doesn't like them anyway while white women are White America's favorite people. What's obvious is white people are running the show on both sides and People of Color are pawns. The PoC distinction speaks to the countless …
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:46 PM
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You should be exploring male vulnerability because that's what's missing in their narrative. They could easily assert that white men denied all other groups access to powerful roles. The actual work of building America was done on the backs of the poor and disenfranchised. Many of those people were also white men. Try talking about them and their struggles instead of beating your chest.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:38 PM
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Sub par right wing propaganda of idiots. Are roads charity? Do you wish to buy police or fire protection individually? You can push a principal like rejecting welfare but the general welfare is pretty expansive. Modern nations must provide for it or they will fall far behind their competitors. Free public school for example. Up your game and remember this is MEN'S RIGHTS not LIBERALS SUCK.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:33 PM
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How did we get to the ACA? Seems like Men's Rights is being trolled by right wing trolls who don't know when to quite. Why don't you bother some other people who aren't focused on the welfare of men and boys around the world because those issues aren't being taken up by either of the major parties. The political right in particular loves getting tough on men which is why being 5 days late on child support in Republican dominated South Carolina leads to an arrest warrant. Be you liberal or conser…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:30 PM
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Class warfare is real and it's waged by the rich against the poor, but rarely the reverse.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:27 PM
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When seriously examined the 'big lie' is we can do without competing ideas and should follow lock step either political party. Those trying to eliminate the right or left are extremist who lost the plot.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:27 PM
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In reality we can look at the demographics of the parties and see which is more hostile to racial minorities. The issue of minority rights goes right back to the writing of the constitution by genocidal colonizing slavers preaching liberty, freedom, and equality.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:25 PM
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The liberal elite is overwhelmingly white. Those attacking masculinity are overwhelmingly white and if whiteness was the actual issue feminist would be busy attacking themselves and not just men. What we've seen is a scheme to secure white female votes advanced by the 'liberal elite'. White men and women abandoned the left leaving women of color to make up the vast gender gap between the parties in national elections. You sit here threatening a white backlash like it wasn't already the foundatio…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 12:23 PM
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Medved said that police kill more whites than blacks. In absolute terms, that is accurate. However, the statement ignores that there are more than five times more whites than blacks in America. When comparing death rates, blacks are about three times more likely than whites to die in a confrontation with police. Medved’s statement leaves out significant information that would change someone’s understanding of the topic. We rate his claim Half True. The "rate" depends on population proportions so…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 09:34 PM
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Right on. SJW's are upper class frauds playing victim like a certain CEO claiming she's oppressed while benefiting from tremendous power and social privilege.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 09:21 PM
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So you are going to lash out at black people for supposed racism against whites? I tend to look at people like you as those suffering victim envy. You see victimhood has power and start coming up with phony crap like SJW's. That needs to stop. Men have legit issues, we don't need white people faking oppression by claiming to be victims of racism at their own hands or singling out the occasional minority with something to say about the social cultural institutions of White America. We have a hist…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 09:19 PM
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SJW's come in all flavors? I disagree because the reason we have serious problems with them is the fact they are privileged people claiming to be under privileged. We had generations of ethical social justice before privileged white kids at Harvard and Cornell decided to coopt these movements. We see the same pattern with whites claiming white oppression and racism against whites emerging from whites complaining about whiteness since no other demographic has the power to solidify a media narrati…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 09:16 PM
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Racism against white people isn't a issue for good reason. For one it's primarily whites complaining about whites to look good for other whites. Second whites have a damn hard time proving ill effects. There is no legitimate claim to victimhood and you really need that unless your goal is to blow smoke up peoples asses. The white rights types keep trying to hijack men's rights. If and when they do kiss your credibility good bye not that you have much to begin with. The case for misandy is strong…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 07:16 AM
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Have you even considered the class barriers? Races don't share class and families like sexes so you can't approach the same way you do gender. It's akin to comparing opportunities for a child born to a top 3% home to the bottom 3%. Political correctness is a distraction from the real issues and many of those pushing it fail to recognize how that agenda favors those with socioeconomic advantages. Thw underclasses have been left out by those in the upper classes who fond power in victimhood.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 07:06 AM
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SJW's are predominantly white and concerned advancing themselves by claiming to support other identities or presenting themselves as oppressed. The racisn is a bunch of MRA's thinking blacks are there problem. If you don't know the stats or facts on race issues then leave it alone. You are speaking from a place of ignorance if you think there aren't any problematic racial disparities that blow the pants off the gender variety.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:56 AM
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WTF? I see white women going after white men like this year after year but the outrage goes over the top when it's a black women saying the same damn thing. Check yourself.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:47 AM
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No he didn't have a reason to grab a gun. You're writing a movie plot not thinking like a guy who just stole some cheap ass Cigerelos. Put those together and you get the string of events that most eyewitnesses and all the forensic evidence agree happened. No it doesn't. The fact Brown came into contact with the gun and was shot in the hand suggest someone pushing a gun away from their body not grabbing it from the holster of a officer seated in a police car within moments of being stopped. And h…
/r/MensRights02/05/15 08:48 AM
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It would be more likely that the white dominated establishment is content waging a covert race war through oppressive public policy not unlike the Jim Crow laws brutally enforced to keep blacks in their place. How did America become the leading incarcerator on the planet? In the twenty-five years since the passage of the Anti-Drug Abuse Act, the United States penal population rose from around 300,000 to more than two million. Between 1986 and 1991, African-American women's incarceration in state…
/r/MensRights02/05/15 08:33 AM
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It should be known that your theory of events is a bogus police narrative just like so many other cases. What are the odds some random guy would reach into police officers car to grab their gun? We heard this talk before and right now you should see the flaws in the process after so many incidents caught on video have discredited this kind of spin. The case had almost nothing to do with men's rights, except that Officer Wilson very narrowly escaped becoming another man killed on the job. Michael…
/r/MensRights02/05/15 08:16 AM
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That's too bad but you're not the first to have a problem seeing past confirmation biases.
/r/MensRights02/05/15 08:13 AM
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Don't be a dumb ass. Feminism stole it's template for activism from the civil rights movement of blackS who didn't have prosperous white men supporting their families. Race and gender aren't the same. You can't debunk racial oppression like you can with gender. Reading the statistics make that s all too apparent not to mention white hostility towards blacks demonstrated at the institutional level while women and white women in particular are America's favorite victims no matter how much priveleg…
/r/MensRights01/05/15 08:38 PM
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You must take civilian complaints seriously to protect the public from abuse of power. If it turns out people are lying about abuse there should be consequences.
/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:46 AM
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Cloud computing isn't a new idea. Get with the times.
/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:44 AM
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Are you fucking kidding me? The issue here is protecting the image of law enforcement and not the public? Men's Rights is looking a lot more like what feminists say about it by downplaying major men's rights issues like police brutality. There was no reason for that comment to be down voted 41 times despite the hyperbole. This movement is becoming a self parody of angry white men and that needs to stop. It's bad enough ot has to fight from behind without short sighted racial biases eating away a…
/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:42 AM
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A black man would be wondering why men's rights has no stories on black men being brutalized by police while people riot in the streets over these issues. Men's rights needs to get their act together because the neglect of major issues primarily impacting poor men of color are too obvious to ignore.
/r/MensRights29/04/15 01:36 AM
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The link isn't working.
/r/MensRights24/04/15 11:46 AM
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Seriously? Low voter turn out tends to empower the corrupt.
/r/MensRights22/04/15 03:15 PM
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The infographic underestimated male victimization in many areas. For example a John Jay study concluded juvenile males are half of the underage people sex trafficked in NYC. For rape victimization we see the usual disregard for forced to penetrtrate.
/r/MensRights22/04/15 02:52 PM
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You have a point but I doubt the other side had much to add considering the circumstances.
/r/MensRights21/04/15 04:06 PM
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We'd run out of companies to support and boycott the few means of voicing dissent. Need I bring up Ellen Pao and reddit?
/r/MensRights21/04/15 04:04 PM
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Real journalism, just the facts. Such a rarity to see zero editorializing.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 01:35 AM
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Maybe you need to brush up on this struggle against oppression stuff. Agitation is required and systemic efforts to deny dissident voices a platform must be resisted if justice is to be achieved. You don't quit twitter, you expose the institutional bias and use that to advance the wider cause.
/r/MensRights17/04/15 03:02 AM
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Interesting - you don't feel this would be similar to feminism's appropriation of e.g. race struggles to lend their own movement more legitimacy? No, I'm a flaming hypocrite. Seriously, I don't expect the MRM to fight racism. These are men's issues and the fact they have a race angle shouldn't make them any less relevant to Men's Rights. Appropriation is a huge problem but I don't see any of these issues where other races aren't also being impacted by the same systemic issues even if most of the…
/r/MensRights12/04/15 04:17 PM
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I just found this report on how the child support system hurts poor black men (really poor men in general). Instead of helping families generate assets, child support policies and practices may have the adverse effect of plunging the most economically fragile fathers and their families deeper into poverty. The thing about race framing is that it's usually the only way to get the mainstream to notice poor people. An accusation of classism doesn't carry the stigma of racism. We shouldn't hesitate …
/r/MensRights12/04/15 04:11 PM
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I believe that's because we need to approach it as a men's rights issue and not a black men's rights issue or an Asian men's rights issue, or what have you. I agree. We don't need the MRM to fight racism, we need it to fight for men. It's failing to fight for men on these issues and that's the problem.
/r/MensRights12/04/15 03:40 PM
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I don't want the MRM talking about racism. I want them talking about MEN! Black men happen to be men. If we have some systemic issue of police getting away with unnecessarily killing men and being trigger happy in general then the MRM should be out front demanding reform. The white people problem comes into play when white people decide something framed as a black issues isn't worth talking about. When people rattle off the short list of MRM issues rarely do we hear mass incarceration or police …
/r/MensRights12/04/15 03:38 PM
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You'd figure amid all this race talk a story like this would get more coverage than Anita Sarkeesian's hate tweets but that's wishful thinking. They should have been sentenced as Adult Black Males ala the Onion. The racism problem is serious. We have one of the biggest men's issues in the mainstream surrounding black males but the MRM seems to put forth a half hearted effort towards leveraging it for that very reason. It's kind of weird there is a large public movement trying to protect men from…
/r/MensRights11/04/15 10:44 AM
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Good luck. I hope you have followed the other efforts to do so on Canada and I suggest you study deeply before going forward because. In regards to the MRM's usual approach to establishing it's relevance I'd deviate by focusing more on a minority issue like Mass Incarceration and Criminal Justice that overlap with existing activist efforts. Of course there are plenty of other serious male issues but putting that one out front will deflect a lot of criticism. Along with that you'll need a broad r…
/r/MensRights08/04/15 03:10 PM
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Please don't concede the existence of 'rape culture' simply because rape exists somewhere in a society. In this instance the criminals were engaged in home invasion and theft along with being gang rapist. Their criminal culture isn't indicative of the broader mainstream.
/r/MensRights08/04/15 02:43 PM
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The power struggle. Feminists have accumulated tremendous power to define perception of the the culture and society. They aren't keen on letting it go or sharing so all competing perspectives find themselves battling an ideological monopoly rather than competing openly in the market of ideas.
/r/MensRights04/04/15 02:07 PM
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Having masculinity defined as men doing whatever they can to please women isn't much of an improvement. Men should be able to define themselves just as women do rather than having their traits labeled 'toxic' to shame men into complying with feminists gender policing. If we embrace toxic masculinity we ought do the same with toxic femininity. There are no shortage of prominent examples of women claiming victimhood as a source of power in a society that's hyper sensitive to females claiming they'…
/r/MensRights04/04/15 01:55 PM
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Feminists dominate the mainstream media and declared MRA's to be haters of women along with countless others who dared to challenge their narrative. I think we need to recognize the power dynamics here instead of judging MRA's and Feminists as equals. One has institutional dominance from academia to the popular press wile the other doesn't have a single columnist in any major paper nor University course. In order for us to make progress we need to have a balanced discussion where feminists can't…
/r/MensRights04/04/15 01:50 PM
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Are you now arguing for segregation ... again? An impoverished ghetto is full of people in similar circumstances yet crime is high. Your theory isn't working and can be tested. Crime becomes lower when you mix the population rather than throw all the poor people in a neighborhood cut off from the social and economic resources of the upper classes like good schools and job opportunities.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 03:52 AM
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There is a serious problem with those who take to defending shooters of unarmed black men as if that was making life safe for America's citizens. Trayvon was a clear cut case of injustice since walking home from the store ought not get you shot by a vigilante stalking you in the night. If by some legal loophole the shooter can get off it doesn't make it any less wrong. In Ferguson a unarmed man was shot with inconclusive evidence of police wrong doing. Neither case undermines the larger issue of…
/r/MensRights01/04/15 03:47 AM
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And frankly, the statistics show that there is a problem, which is that these ethnic minorities do not integrate to the Finnish society properly, as in they do not seem to acknowledge and respect the social norms and laws in what should be their new home. This is what was said of just about every immigrant group in America at one point or another. Using scary stats to provoke xenophobia is a tried and tested tactic. Black on white crime stats in America are being used against blacks who's ancest…
/r/MensRights01/04/15 03:38 AM
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Do you realize white nationalist in America are pushing the same angle? I don't find the statistics all that stunning much like the college rape hysteria. Judging men or a race by statistics revealing the crimes of a timy percentage of their population is wrong. You are trying to uae tactics against these Swedish minoritiy men that MRAs have long discredited. See the attacks on athletes and frata in the campus rape controversy that even RAINN has condemned. It is pretty racist to go after ethnic…
/r/MensRights29/03/15 06:01 PM
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Don't be fooled. Only a priveleged few truly benefit from oppressed status. We see it being exploited by the elite to garner more privilege in their already priveleged circles. If we look to the underclasses who can't even get sick days or a living wage this pretentious oppression game looks like a farce.
/r/MensRights29/03/15 05:51 PM
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Found this on XX with 0 up votes 5 hours later. It doesn't quite fit the western feminists narrative.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 02:58 PM
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Look at the source(Traditionalist Christians). That's to be expected.
/r/MensRights27/03/15 02:22 PM
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Come on people. I know this stuff makes us mad and we lash out sometimes (I've done it a lot) but this article is clearly supportive of our position at least in part. But men are not entirely to blame for the steep decline in marriage, Crouse pointed out. “A lot of women fear marriage. While feminism is a spent force, the ultimate consequences of that philosophy is a whole generation of women who don’t want any man to tell them what to do, and don’t really understand the give and take that is ne…
/r/MensRights27/03/15 01:08 PM
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Clinic bombings and assassinations are pretty damn extreme. I'm not knocking the pro life moral stance but these weren't one off incidents. I don't blame the whole movement or anything like that but it's relevant when someone is doing it to pro-choice because of their violent extremist. Yes I'm a liberal and proud of it but I think for myself and I assume you do as well.
/r/MensRights26/03/15 05:16 PM
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This isn't Men's Rights also pro-life activist have a long history of serious violence such as bombings and assassinations. You don't have a situation one sided violence against a peaceful opposition. The far greater violence came from the pro life side who feels their opponents support the murder of children.
/r/MensRights25/03/15 02:51 PM
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RAINN Report to the White House on Campus Rape: Perpetrators of Campus Sexual Assault: What We Know In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to not lose sight of a simple fact: Rape is caused not by cultural factors but by the conscious decisions, of a small percentage of the community, to comm…
/r/MensRights23/03/15 12:54 AM
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Race isn't like gender but feminists borrow from the deconstruction of race dynamic to .make their case. The key difference is the race operatea more like class meaning the various groups are far less likely to form families together or socialize. Men and women on the other hand emerge from the same homes and muat form families for humanity to survive. Race rivalry may lead to genocide but gender rivalry does not. Anxieties about racial profiling are justified because it leads to police harassin…
/r/MensRights21/03/15 12:42 PM
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The way your sister treated is inexcusable. If she calls you nasty names then I suggest you respond in kind and remind her she'll be seeing you every damn day so she ought not dare treat you like some random dude on the street. Demand respect and you'll get it because that kind of abusive 'mean girl' social aggression has no business going on between siblings. On the facts presented you can improve your argument. Don't rely on prison rape. The fact is men's sexual assault in studies like the CDC…
/r/MensRights18/03/15 03:14 AM
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This white feminists trying to remain relevant is creating quite the 'social justice' train wreck because their is simply no way to keep up with the level of entitlement white feminists bring to the table. It grows in proportion to peoples willingness to care for them unlike with other groups which rapidly become complacent once major issues of discrimination are addressed. Men and women is they have a special relationship. That's not true between Gay and Straight, or between racial groups. Thes…
/r/MensRights17/03/15 04:39 PM
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The MRA is white dominated just like feminism. Black men are in the same position of relying on whites to take up issues even if it's not centered on their specific identity since they are the dominant group in society. Once we begin the discussion on men's issues it creates opportunity to begin a more compassionate discourse on men which is essential to tackling issues negatively impacting black men along with the rest. Nearly all spaces in mainstream society are white dominated.
/r/MensRights16/03/15 10:14 AM
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Turning diversity into an issue of genitalia and sexuality instead of diverse ideas and backgrounds was feminists doing. When consume media created by women or men from the same background we have a hard time telling them apart because the subtle variation in life experiences due to gender are trumped by the shared experiences existing within the same communities. Writers for the most part write about other peoples lives, thoughts, and feelings based on the behavior of the people around them far…
/r/MensRights16/03/15 10:06 AM
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Naturally the campaign will be pushed by white women who grew up in the same homes as white men they're condemning for not being diverse. Having a vagina doesn't change the fundamentals of your background in places where gender roles have broken down. It would make more sense if it were a campaign to see those from non western nations be more widely read.
/r/MensRights15/03/15 03:01 AM
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Remember Earl Silverman: Man who ran Canada’s only shelter dedicated solely to male victims of domestic abuse dies in apparent suicide
/r/MensRights12/03/15 02:56 PM
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I'm black and statistically speaking black men are in crisis. I also find my self empathizing with white men who are singled out overwhelmingly by white feminists trying to dominate them through social aggression. This doesn't serve the interest of racial justice and in fact drives a backlash against it as all social justice is called into question when a privileged group of radicals use the cause to social climb in elite circles. These are my current feelings but originally I was upset that the…
/r/MensRights04/03/15 07:37 PM
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I got it from human rights watch. I should have cited it. I see some sources putting it at 6 times but it's a lot. The break down of the family theory doesn't work as an explanation for the incarceration gap nor do crime rates.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 09:19 PM
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Yeah you can do that and I don't know who said you couldn't. Egalitarians are natural allies of MRA's in their approach to gender. Media feminists end up attacking to protect their influence.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 09:15 PM
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You know darn well you don't have to be a feminists to be on the left. The charlatans in academia don't rule he roost. People on the left and right are capable of thinking for themselves. They aren't mere slaves to elite ideologues telling them how to think.
/r/MensRights27/02/15 09:11 PM
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You have to read very carefully especially with Elam. You can't just take a quote like that out of context. For example begging for rape could mean she's drunk but asking for sex which many would assume to be rape even if she's begging for it. That's why you can't skip the rest and quote mine to your hearts content unless you want to intentionally misrepresent what's being said.
/r/MensRights26/02/15 06:59 AM
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Paul is fine and you need to get used to people saying the same sorts of things about women we do about bad men. The protect women like they're some kind of endangered species approach is about biology not equality. Men become overly protective of women in many cultures and the west isn't an exception. Some women may even feel entitled to special treatment but it's not equality. You need to read what he writes carefully. Short of jury nullification what I've read wasn't a problem. That idea didn…
/r/MensRights26/02/15 06:57 AM
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AND there are more Black men in prison than all other races and sexes combined. Blacks make up 40% of the prison population so that's not accurate. Black males are 9.6(edit) times more likely to be incarcerated than white men. So I don't think what you're saying is technically correct even if you mean to point out a legitimately massive disparity. IMO mass incarceration needs to be the leading men's rights and civil rights issue in America.
/r/MensRights25/02/15 02:04 PM
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Tired of white people thinking minorities are something they put in their back pocket for when it's time to defend feminism from the any mob that can't stand the over privileged self serving ivy league frauds hijacking social justice. As if the problems of every other identity group came down to protecting delusional women's activists who dread the day when other identities will attract equal sympathy for their concerns. The hegemony of what has become the white feminist women's power movement t…
/r/MensRights23/02/15 08:28 PM
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Google 'made to penetrate', 'domestic violence symmetry' and read what you find. Sexual and domestic violence create the foundation for feminist's 'gender based violence' cultural narrative and it's in their interest to not allow men to be featured prominently as victims. MRA's are in a fight to raise recognition of male vulnerability along with the presumption women won't use accusations of abuse by men as just another means of relational aggression. Women using these alternatives to physical v…
/r/MensRights20/02/15 02:27 PM
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Reject your gender or sex being vilified at any opportunity. If gender bashing is their approach to equality reject the gender existentialism. Groups ought not be defined by some fringe and neither sex is full of terrible people prone to do terrible things. That said I suggest you raise the 'Made to Penetrate' versus 'rape' issue and more importantly why it isn't being discussed. If they did their job well you won't have much to complain about but if not agitate for a more egalitarian approach. …
/r/MensRights20/02/15 05:40 AM
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As a MRA I agree with your stance. The last thing I want is a flood of MRA's who don't care for the movement claiming to be one while saying things that conflict with it's egalitarian approach to sex relations. This ultimately is a battle for pluralism in the gender dialogue and you needn't have faction to to have an opinion on our society and culture.
/r/MensRights20/02/15 04:44 AM
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What does this have to do with helping men? It seems like you are trying to demonize them.
/r/MensRights18/02/15 01:45 PM
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This is what I'm talking about. MRA's are fair minded and evidenced based for the most part and I have no problem working alongside white men on men's issues because of this. If it came down to a debate about race versus gender they'd be able to draw fair conclusions from the evidence which is abundant. The disparities from two sexes sharing homes, families, communities, and schools appear minor to groups who are socially isolated from each other be it a social, cultural, race or class divide. T…
/r/MensRights15/02/15 07:42 PM
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The switched at birth episodes on campus rape part 1 and 2
/r/MensRights14/02/15 04:28 PM
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The decline of feminsm but not the demise. Science and reason did not bring about the demise of religion or superstition. Feminists live in a confirmation bias bubble. It's practically required to keep up their illusions in the face of reality. Even other women will dispute their points of view so they have isolate themselves in social circles where disagreement with their views is unlikely. This article for example will be dismissed because of the source with the same tired arguments we've hear…
/r/MensRights14/02/15 03:29 PM
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You aren't going to win this 'identity politics' argument and even trying makes you look like a hypocrite gone troll. It doesn't get much more patently obvious, cut and dry, black and white... than this. MRM is not identity politics, it's just that men are the ones lacking in equal protection under the law. Gone troll... If you really do believe that it's because you're lying to yourself. Tweak your ideological stance and understand identity politics is a necessary evil in a world full of them. …
/r/MensRights14/02/15 03:22 PM
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For real... I mean the movement was started by upper class white women in Seneca Falls. The women's liberation movement was middle class white women escaping a role where men supported them from cradle to grave with the imposed social obligation of giving them the best quality of life possible who then had the audacity to compare themselves to slaves or chattel. It must have been the first time the supposed 'slave' had a role the 'slave master' envied so much they would work decades putting away…
/r/MensRights14/02/15 03:07 PM
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White women were active participants in, proponents of and key beneficiaries of the system of slavery in the US as well as in the colonial empires and arguably continue to be beneficiaries of imperialism and exploitation. The cheap clothes we buy, the petrol we fill our cars with, the diamonds we covet – they are all tied into the feminist struggle because, to paraphrase bell hooks, if feminism seeks to make women equal to men, then it is impossible because western society does not view all men …
/r/MensRights14/02/15 02:17 PM
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Can you not see what sub you are in? That's not what it's called. The Men Rights Movement a.k.a the Men's Human Rights Movement is male focused hence an inherently identity centered as a movement just like Women's activism, Black activism, Hispanic activism, Gay activism and the like. The second it becomes identity driven, I'm out. I'd be kicking myself for investing so much effort debating you but feminists are so supportive these days a good fight is hard to come by. This wasn't one of those b…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 06:17 PM
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Yeah I got nothing but rage left at this point because I spent too much time defending white men as a black man to put up with this shit here. I've taken on SJW's but this ain't video games, it's not atheism, it's not comic books, it's a freaking human rights movement. Do you not understand that you can't decry identity politics as a whole from the inside of a identity driven movement? Shall I call you sexist for participating in Men's Rights? Are you even a MRA? Why do you see gender? You must …
/r/MensRights13/02/15 06:05 PM
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And the idea that false rape accusations somehow magically avoid black men is too baffling to understand. False rape accusations were a serious problem for black people long before Men's Rights or Feminism came into the picture there was the 'White Knights' of the Klu Klux Klan. Protecting white women from the black savages was major justification for their existence as portrayed in 'Birth of a Nation'. Notice the irony with the 'white knights'? We have these BJS arrest stats showing historicall…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 01:37 PM
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That's fine I'll be that racist by whatever definition you choose because I'm on the side with mountains of empirical evidence on race and gender. Your working logic is black people are racist because I resent them calling me a racist. There is nothing to back that up. Black president? Well let's look at the flood of white hostility that man's been subjected too. He was resoundingly opposed by the white majority in both sexes. If we look back further at the emergence of the racial political divi…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 11:17 AM
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We're at about half of Republicans declaring the problem is blacks are racist while they vote for the 90% white party pushing voter ID to purge poor minorities from the voting rolls who often don't have ID. America became the number one incarceration on earth but some how that decades old issue has yet to go mainstream, while most of those filling those jails are black and brown. When the white majority uses on claims of 'racism' to suppress minorities drawing attention to serious issues affecti…
/r/MensRights13/02/15 05:04 AM
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because he never addressed the MRM taking on minorities' problems, which would be mission creep, and a highjack of the MRM's objectives. So you choose to ignore their issues? That would be moronic. Their issues ought to be included even if that issue doesn't effect white men as much as it does the minority. Right now the MRM is looking a lot worse than feminism because won't recognize the men in it's midst with crushing issues like Mass Incarceration but they'll talk about false rape allegations…
/r/MensRights12/02/15 06:41 PM
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Second, mass incarceration is not just a black man issue. Men will receive six times the sentences for the same crime as women. Racial differences barely show in that scale. No it's not there. We should see the words MASS INCARCERATION like they actually read about it, because that's the label for the problem in the mainstream. It's a deeply racial issue because of the proportions of the respective populations. You're plainly ignorant when it comes to these minority issues which has been a probl…
/r/MensRights12/02/15 06:01 PM
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Now the ADL is on the defining the culture through feminism bandwagon which clearly has nothing to do with fighting antisemitism. Let me see them push feminist lectures in the Yeshiva or force them on the Haridi first. If we are going to talk about sexism impacting males you better be pointing out how feminism spent decades marginalizing male victims of sexual and domestic violence or get out my face. This fake social justice crap from the academic elites pushing half baked social theories isn't…
/r/MensRights12/02/15 05:54 PM
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I said: "Let's at least accept that people in general tend to be self serving and white men were no exception." So I don't have to qualify which whites since the assertion was a commentary on human nature. We are orientated towards fighting for our own kind which extends to sex, to family, to community, to race, etc... Self sacrifice for the group happens in all these context.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 03:58 PM
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You need to look at the BJS arrest data that reveals black men were vastly disproportionately being arrested for these crimes for decades along with being lynched on the basis of these accusations. The use of the criminal justice system as a tool of oppression is nothing new. Putting innocents in jail is a very serious matter especially for those who are most likely to be railroaded by the courts who tend to be poor men of color. The decline in the forcible rape arrest rate was not similar acros…
/r/MensRights11/02/15 03:53 PM
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We're oriented to fighting for others. Ha ha.... Are you seriously talking about white men with a historic perspective? Let's at least accept that people in general tend to be self serving and white men were no exception. Selfless sacrifices on behalf of the family are made by both sexes but the white family was a interest group that put it's own above the others because these families collectively had the power to do so.
/r/MensRights11/02/15 03:03 PM
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I have no idea why you think white people take black peoples problems seriously. Go to our men's rights faq on this sub and you won't see black men's issues like mass incarnation listed. Throughout Ferguson and #BlackLivesMatter we saw little attention from white dominated men's rights despite it being a clear men's issue. Men's rights is no better than feminsts when it comes to empath that crosses the racial line. The fact white men think they get less attention from society than racial minorit…
/r/MensRights11/02/15 01:54 PM
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I respect your courage. The #Meninist thing is gaining momentum along with the ignorant backlash. I'm wondering if it would help if you kept a men's & boys issue fact sheet in your back pocket so they can understand the kind of activism you're involved in by wearing that shit. Male issues are very serious and if seeing how pervasive they are should humble your critics.
/r/MensRights06/02/15 05:33 PM
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We shouldn't have these children of privilege regardless of their race or gender acting as the voice of oppression. People who know soul crushing hardship exists and they should be elevated to speak not some spoiled brats who want to coopt their voices for their own ends. I have a particular problem with the prosperous whites doing this because there are so many. It's a horde of moralizing self righteous snobs who think reading about XYZ group made them experts on their plight and they're entitl…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 02:40 PM
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I try not to become an intolerant extremist. Pluralism has become a big deal to me after GG. I know you can be a perfectly decent person who treats men with respect and holds women accountable for their actions while being a feminists. I also know most of that ideology is rooted in misandry and systematic negative stereotyping of males that also insulates women from any responsibility for their missteps in life. Feminism is too big to fail in many respects so I hope the good ones can turn it aro…
/r/MensRights28/01/15 02:33 PM
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That user is a real nut job. He keeps saying he keeps saying he wants to stab women which is strangely enough favorited by several other women. I find the trolling they engage in to be worse than outright hate groups I see online. It might be time for MRA's to make a distinction between feminists and rabid anti-male trolls who only exist to hate, but how many are the feminists who defended #KillAllMen?
/r/MensRights26/01/15 04:16 PM
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The infographic is correct but to give you some context over 32,000 men die each year of suicide. They are 80% of the victims. That's nearly 3 times the number of women who die due to intimate partner murder. If we look at homicide statistics where men are over 75% of the 15,000 victims or 11,250. In other words more men are murdered each year than all the women killed due to intimate partner homicide in 11 years. Far more dramatic is the fact that nearly half of all homicides in America are are…
/r/MensRights26/01/15 02:32 PM
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Anti-white rhetoric from white women who conveniently exempted themselves from the power of whiteness. There is an issue of prejudice plus power but white women are socially quite powerful. That power is increased by the fact it's easy to get men to unite behind protecting women so even male power becomes an extension of their own. This racism you speak of is not coming from outside groups marginalizing whites, it's other whites seeking power over whites by calling them out for being white.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 07:01 AM
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I believe some feminists confuse being an MHRA with being an anti-feminist. They usually are and there is nothing wrong with that considering how hostile they are to addressing men's issues. Some mass shooter from decades ago doesn't define anti-feminism. They look for excuses to marginalize dissent so they don't look like powerful bullies shutting up any who'd undermine their claim to moral authority.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 06:40 AM
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Feminism allows men to be feminine in demeanor but abhors treating men as victims or equally vulnerable which is a quality we attach to the feminine role. For example it doesn't tolerate men going on about their negative feelings especially if they come about due to the conduct of women. There is some serious privilege protecting going on that won't allow men to be like women if it requires feminists provide men equal compassion.
/r/MensRights26/01/15 06:33 AM
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Don't conflate 'women' with 'feminists' if you want to keep grounded. It was used to lay all the problems affecting black women at black men's feet. Who taught you to do that? Often it's mothers which is one good reason it's good to have fathers in the home. No more tolerance of ghetto attitudes. Those aren't limited to women or black people. 2015, black men will have their voices heard. There is Very Smart Brothas and there is Tommy Sotomayor (not a nice guy). I suppose Steve Harvey is somewher…
/r/MensRights26/01/15 04:51 AM
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This is great news.
/r/MensRights13/01/15 10:25 PM
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I agree but he the post itself was a problem. Keeping a white dominated movement with some right wing leaning elements from becoming a haven for racists takes a little effort. There are white nationalist who relish in our take downs of SJW's and feminists. They see an opportunity to coopt these movements for their own ends much like feminists did with other social justice movements. I love that this is a free speech zone that's tolerant of dissent and keeps banning to a minimum. That said we're …
/r/MensRights09/01/15 07:36 PM
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Thank you guys for standing up to the racists. It really means a lot to the PoC MRA's out there defending the white guys from people who think it's cool to ignore their issues and use them as scapegoats. We're all in this together along with the ladies who really stepped up to look out out for the fellas.
/r/MensRights09/01/15 07:30 PM
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"The 2010 Census showed that the U.S. population on April 1, 2010, was 308.7 million. Out of the total population, 223.6 million people, or 72 percent, identified as White alone (see Table 1).12, 13 In addition, 7.5 million people, or 2 percent, reported White in combination with one or more other races." Washington Post: The new Congress is 80 percent white, 80 percent male and 92 percent Christian That's not a surprise, given that the country itself is overwhelmingly Christian. The group that …
/r/MensRights08/01/15 06:52 AM
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The issue is one of 'concern' and he employs the very fallacy he's accusing the straw man of making to draw a target around is new preconditions. Ironically by making the condition a work place with equal number of men and women it makes women's presence a prerequisite for concern thus proving the straw man's point. Another example would be claiming men work dangerous jobs as if that danger could not be due to our lack of concern for their workplace safety. He accuses the straw man of drawing th…
/r/MensRights08/01/15 06:26 AM
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There is no pandemic. I've grown weary of the hyperbolic language from SJW's applied to every circumstance. A single killing becomes genocide. A harsh word becomes violence. I hope MRA's strive to uphold their intellectual integrity in a sea of lies and distortions. I'm not too fond of the racial angle on this one. We know this stuff happens to males of all races and singling out white women when women of all races do these things to men seems pointless. Other than that you didn't come with any …
/r/MensRights30/12/14 05:44 PM
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I still can't believe GG brought about the end of 4chan. It's not what it was nor will it ever be again since the Social Justice hipster alliance has subsumed it's owner. Love live 8chan, down with half chan.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 06:47 PM
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There is #MeninistTwitter. If you want to find a feminists to argue with just reply to those tweets bashing it. You get some smart ones too so be ready for serious engagement. Ignorance often is the problem especially with male feminists who signed up to be women's champion which I'm sure is very gratifying. The female MRA's got #WomenAgainstFeminism going headed up by 'Judy Bitch' Janet Bloomfield. Janet's old account banned from twitter. That broke my heart because she produces the biting anti…
/r/MensRights20/12/14 06:44 PM
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Sharia doesn't make you a radical, it makes you a fundamentalist. That's the difference between a Puritan and a Crusader.
/r/MensRights20/12/14 06:24 PM
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It's men's issues like this that get overlooked. Imagine if they had women on the team, their would be international outcry. Chopping off heads to keep the other soldiers in line is out of Sun Tzu's time. That's over 2500 years ago. This isn't right.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 07:10 PM
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I prefer to call these privileged princesses 'opponents'. They accomplished nothing but establishing pop feminism as a legit which will make it easier to deride. The only real victim of gender oppression they could find was a girl from another nation still mired in civil war.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 07:07 PM
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Men's rights needs to step up on poor men of color issues. Considering what's going on in the streets the response on MRA forums has been dismal. People are watching and that includes men of color who wonder if this movement is for them. Not everyone will step up because they see the big picture, or the common cause of men. I understand why white men have issues with championing those who seem to get support they do not but recognize the reason these men make 'good victims' is because they get t…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 02:07 PM
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This is about giving a damn about men's negative experiences due to their gender. Yes we should care and yes we should raise the gender alarm because of the tremendous gender bias in the criminal justice system. Need I remind you of the 60% sentencing gap by gender? This stuff isn't a fringe issue and if Men's Rights can't pick up and run with issues that dominate the headlines because their reluctant to champion the cause of black men in a movement dominated by white men then we're living up to…
/r/MensRights19/12/14 02:01 PM
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What more would you have said about it? Hopefully not what feministing pulled a 'men are the problem' in response to the #BlackLivesMatter movement despite it being about rejecting the threat narrative society has attached to these men. I wouldn't mind if they gave men the full treatment as gender victims but mention means they're not ignoring the issue. I was pleased to see the progress.
/r/MensRights19/12/14 01:58 PM
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Manipulation throughout? Exactly what kind when you have men and boys testifying about their experiences with the police? Don't confuse race and class with gender. There are large disparities once you start comparing separate communities of people with different socioeconomic status. That's what social justice should be preoccupied with not these nonsensical gender wars. This ain't about "feelz" this is what police do and it terrorizes the men in these communities. It's crazy when you're afraid …
/r/MensRights19/12/14 01:54 PM
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Eric Garner still makes me cry every time I think about it. It's not just the indifference towards black lives but the utter indifference towards male lives MRA's deal with everyday. I hope we embrace this moment and carry it forward. We don't deserve to be treated like this.
/r/MensRights10/12/14 07:00 PM
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No it doesn't make senses. Men and women are born of men and women. They are one people who cannot exist without the other. They share families, homes, communities, and resources often without expectation of anything in return except love and companionship. This is not the relationship between races. The poverty rate black versus white is 20 points apart while it's only 3 points men versus women. The sexes share a social class. Races are so segregated they end up in entirely different communitie…
/r/MensRights09/12/14 11:27 PM
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Washington Post needs to be looking in the damn mirror considering their hit pieces on #GamerGate practically built purely on the emotional invective of the writer. It seems ethics go out the window when they have to tell a feminists they can't do something.
/r/MensRights06/12/14 10:50 PM
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You don't have to erase the race issue to see the wider issue of compassion for men. I have to stand up for white men and I mean WHITE as in a attack on their race all the time. I don't like the victim envy mentality. There is no reward in being the more likely target of police brutality because people don't expect others to care much about happens to you.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 10:52 PM
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You know the corners office called it a contributing factor to his death. The man is dead. Stop making B.S excuses for police who kill innocent people. This is men's rights and you can't even squeeze any compassion out for a dead man because he 'resisted'. That's an excuse police use to deflect responsibility for excessive force leaving people vulnerable to their abuse. How many more videos do we have to see of pregnant women thrown on their 6 month bellies? Enough is enough.
/r/MensRights04/12/14 03:42 PM
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It makes me cry. Even when I walk away and come back to it. It really bothers me. You think years of reading awful news about injustices against men would make me numb but this isn't the same. I'm not even sure who I cry for. Black people or justice. Did I always live on a society so cruel and didn't know it? Are we that far gone? The truth hurts.
/r/MensRights03/12/14 11:22 PM
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I'm trying not to be like feminists hiding from dissent. I found a decent rebuttal here.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 11:35 PM
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It sounds innocent enough and that's the problem. I'm sure they want it to be promoted as a unquestionable source of moral guidance and shown in schools around the world. I fear most people won't see anything wrong with it.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 09:31 PM
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It's not like it goes away when you ignore it.
/r/MensRights02/12/14 09:27 PM
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Twitter is a platform used by dissidents around the world fighting oppressive governments and having some feminists activist being empowered to ban political dissent is a serious breach of ethics in my opinion. Yes they have every right to do as they please but we have every right to oppose their actions using any constitutional means at our disposal.
/r/MensRights18/11/14 12:49 PM
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"Let us imagine for one instant what we could do if we could cultivate a strong and confident group of young women and men across the world committed to defending equality and having the tools to do so? A group of people ready to listen to the concerns of the other gender and to campaign together, modelling the kind of partnership between women and men that is predicated by equality?" Who are they to guide us on equality when they intentionally treat men as some lesser who must abide by the wish…
/r/MensRights14/11/14 10:49 AM
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When you're on the side that starts talking like a movie villain you might want to reexamine your stance. The eliminationist rhetoric of "destroy completely" is going the way of extremism. Free thought isn't something an ideology should fear lest it require oppression of it to thrive.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 10:38 PM
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Men's Rights doesn't need to waste time condemning the contemptible. That's an old sly trick to get everyone to pity the middle class distressed white feminist whose some how been made unhappy by those terrible men who just Hate Women. It's first was the Men's Rights Activist and now it's the GamerGate supporter. Theirs always a scapegoat, a enemy of the day to be purged for speaking heresy. The 'GamerGate Controversy' article had the words sexism(11 to 4) and misogyny (20 to 0) mentioned far mo…
/r/MensRights18/10/14 12:16 AM
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This is connected to an entire web of influence. They were on CNN and MSNBC. They got the front page story on the NY Times. GamerGate is up against some real power.
/r/MensRights17/10/14 11:53 PM
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The problem here is an old one that's simply gotten worse. Men raised to feel sympathy for the opposite sex and not their own. They are playing out the stoic role rather than recognizing their own vulnerability. Since male vulnerability is socially derided they would rather see the misandry they face as a issue of misogyny. This is just one of many ways that the current feminists narrative runs on sexism and the traditionalism of classic patriarchy. One word addresses this better than any other …
/r/MensRights16/10/14 01:03 PM
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There is no fundamental reason Feminists and MRA's have to be enemies. Yeah there is...MISANDRY. Mainstream feminism depends on it to sustain their control over men. If they had to be nice to men there would be no stick to go with the carrot. They would not be able to bully their enemies by labeling large groups of men misogynist. Someone might even expect them to treat men as individuals who needn't prove they don't hate women continuously to avoid the wrath of feminist. The focus on criticizin…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 01:57 AM
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Man I miss these simple arguments. I'm [deliberately] NOT accounting for the "man-hate" in feminism, because I believe this is harshly misrepresentative of feminists. Yes your feminism is built on man hate from it's radical ideological birth during women's liberation. Feminists represent feminism in the mainstream so you really can't blame a third party for misrepresenting them. They write their own articles, produce their own television, publish their own books and generally dominate the mainst…
/r/MensRights05/10/14 01:47 AM
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Feminism exploits the hell out of the patriarchy and that's how you kill this argument. You needn't abandon patriarchy as a concept but rather implicate it's role in reinforcing the very benevolent sexism feminist have long benefited from which they reinforce rather than fight.
/r/MensRights02/10/14 08:53 PM
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Considering the entire debate in the mainstream hinges on male gamers being misogynist while being inundated for years with misandry from gaming journalist I think it's always been a relevant Men's Rights issue. Men's Rights taking a step back to avoid carrying our baggage into their fight was a good thing but we should still keep up with an unprecedented uprising against type of activist journalist who were fairly successful in making Men's Rights a pariah in the mainstream. In fact if the issu…
/r/MensRights26/09/14 04:36 PM
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By telling them how privileged they truly are compared to their supposed oppressor. It well for women, but the men defending them have already accepted that male suffering just doesn't matter because it's unmanly to care about them.
/r/MensRights25/09/14 03:17 PM
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Those Facebook comments really took her B.S to task. They are heartening to read and I'm happy the PEOPLE aren't sold on this crap. The sexism and misandry coming out of feminsm are completely out of sync with the times. These people want the power to dictate to men what their identity should be. They want to assign new gender roles rather than letting people define themselves. It's moral authoritarianism like that of religious fundamentalist and they'll continue exploiting peoples sympathy for …
/r/MensRights25/09/14 12:09 PM
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In the history of humanity, spouse-beating is a particularly odious tradition—one often employed by men looking to exert power over women. Just as lynching in America is not a phenomenon wholly confined to black people, spouse-beatings are not wholly confined to women. Ta Neshi Cole is such a damn feminist sell out. How dare he conflate domestic violence with racial terrorism. Blacks and whites couldn't even share a toilet let alone a family home. Blacks were on the fringes of white society bein…
/r/MensRights23/09/14 11:05 PM
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It took way too many years for stuff like this to hit the mainstream. I'm happy it's finally happening but it should be front page in the NY Times.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 05:57 PM
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These old men talking down to young men need to STFU and finally step up to clean up the mess they created by allowing women's activist to dominate the discourse without challenge. They teach people to hate monger against males and reward them for doing so. This oppressive mess has gone on for far to long.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 05:46 PM
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Gamergate is way ahead of you on that. They boycott mostly gaming sites but the SJW arm of Cracked has earned their scorn along with Buzzfeed and Gawker Media. The gaming media is particularly egregious in practically going to war with male gamers by labeling them 'toxic' or declaring their identity & community 'dead'. In reality the gaming community is diverse and global and these journalist showed themselves to be shallow bigots. That would be the case if any of these SJW's in the media had to…
/r/MensRights23/09/14 05:44 PM
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A.K.A men they don't want making passes.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 05:40 PM
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You get the feeling? Man are they ever inundated with that brain washed phony social justice group think. It's awful and I'm sad the left will have to spend some years cleaning it's own house because these over privileged radicals have become an authoritarian nightmare.
/r/MensRights23/09/14 05:39 PM
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You should have seen their article on Men's Rights. It's not rational, it's feminist.
/r/MensRights21/09/14 09:42 PM
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I'd like MRA's to get on these hashtags and represent. We know a lot of this most people don't. Men's Rights like feminism touches on a lot of things. If not for tolerance for misandry within the culture #GamerGate would never have become the scandal it is. They use accusations of misogyny as a shield and I don't think there are people better than MRA's at challenging that. This is the same reason we have for so long earned the scorn of feminist.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 05:51 PM
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Since the journalist implicated said: "Unfortunately, in the wake of initial attacks on game developer Zoe Quinn, I wrote one message to the group in which I said several things that I soon came to regret. In private conversation, we've all had the experience of throwing out ideas, only to realize after further thought that they weren't appropriate or productive—and life moves on. "
/r/MensRights18/09/14 05:51 PM
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Damn...
/r/MensRights18/09/14 03:02 PM
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We should call then Censors or Thought Police if this is how they are going to act.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 03:01 PM
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Thanks for the correction.
/r/MensRights18/09/14 03:00 PM
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Yes it is at \v\ but I doubt it elsewhere.
/r/MensRights17/09/14 09:48 PM
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She's not even a conservative. More centrist left leaning.
/r/MensRights17/09/14 09:47 PM
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The \v\ channel now deletes any GamerGate threads. A reddiit user got shadow banned for asking Julian Assange about gamergate in a AMA. Wikileaks sent out a tweet about it shortly after. It's crazy but they're still trending strong on twitter. I saw a man break down in tears today thanking the movement. He works in the industry and was just happy to be vindicated. I'd they bully their readers like this imagine how oppressive life the inside their circle must be.
/r/MensRights17/09/14 09:46 PM
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Are you supporting #GamerGate? You should be.
/r/MensRights17/09/14 04:35 PM
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A classic piece of MRA literature - Misandry bubble domesticviolenceresearch.org Thirty Years of Denying the Evidence on Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence: Implications for Prevention and Treatment The rape of men: the darkest secret of war CDC: “Being made to penetrate isn’t rape” When Men Are Raped - Slate Prof. Starr's research shows large unexplained gender disparities in federal criminal cases [College Students’ Sexual Assault Experiences at SUNY Geneseo: Results from an Anonymous, Campus…
/r/MensRights17/09/14 04:33 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MxqSwzFy5w CH takes critics down quick and easy but the likes of Rebecca Watson is pure damsel with nothing to go on fallacious claims of rampant sexism in skeptic community. If they can't see through it they need to stop calling themselves skeptics.
/r/MensRights16/09/14 08:13 PM
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Sounds like some variation on the Duluth Model.
/r/MensRights10/09/14 05:50 AM
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I don't think it is controversial. People just ignore it.
/r/MensRights09/09/14 02:32 PM
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Her stance on feminism purely theoretical and any number of people can spew unproven social theories. The thing about feminism is how effectively it appeals to certain women's desire to be a special victim of the world who is entitled to special care. To some extent I think it's about their desire to be loved by and thus have leverage over those around them. The sad part is men have to turn against their instincts to be sympathetic towards women long enough to notice they are being played and do…
/r/MensRights09/09/14 02:31 PM
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He attacked Men's Rights which was uncalled for: " If someone writes a post about social justice issues or records a feminist YouTube video, you can simply ignore it—the way I ignore the Men’s Rights movement."
/r/MensRights05/09/14 08:11 PM
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Amazingly he managed to avoid discussing attacks were specifically on young white males spawning another hashtag #NotYourShield where diverse gamers lambasted the press for using people of color and women in that capacity. This is looking like a win against misandric feminism but this piece was written by a man who'd fit in that category having written "A Letter to A Young Male Gamer" a week earlier. No wonder he didn't specify it was men under attack. I think he's seen the writing on the wall a…
/r/MensRights04/09/14 07:06 PM
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You know this sub is a parade of human tragedy.
/r/MensRights04/09/14 12:30 AM
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I've followed the right for a while and I'm more sympathetic to their 'family values' position than I was in the past. They approached the issue terribly but I see much of that was out of frustration. You don't want the religious right leading the charge with 'god told me so', which doesn't go over well in secular circles. It's best if we all accept people aren't stupid. When masses of people buy into an idea there is some truth to that perspective that can be qualifies as logical from where the…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 02:53 PM
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Attacking Wright was a racist move. He was indeed a radical black man angry at America and White supremacy but a black man of his age has plenty to be mad about. He's lived what people of my generation read in history books and absence of righteous anger from more of them is what should surprise us. I for one am sick of the black elite self censoring to avoid offending whites. I find myself doing that far too much here. The fact is the Civil Rights movement wound down despite even though the iss…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 02:47 PM
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The people in the media have sided with feminists so much that if the let the MRM counter argument take off they'll end up losing face. We have a lot of journalist and opinion makers with a vested interest in protecting the status quo and it's on the MRM to expose these people so they really don't have a choice. Many have already chosen the path of willful ignorance which is more like active deception. The remainder truly are ignorant and by educating people as we have been doing we drive more t…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 02:10 PM
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Of course I was just answering I question in my head regarding the proportion relative to the gender. It's surprisingly consistent. The gender issue of why men are filling our prisons is a really big question that hasn't been discussed in the mainstream. I think it can be one of those intractable winning issues like the wage gap was for feminism. We can call it the Incarceration Gap, and like with wages it has a racial component. We have a lovely sentencing disparity to go with it and like the w…
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:56 PM
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Jamaica.ave NYC goes viral. There are a lot of shoplifters on that strip and some shops even ban strollers.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:50 PM
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I wouldn't dismiss the race issue outright but it's on us to highlight the gender dimension.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:43 PM
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Black women are 6.5x more likely to be incarcerated than white women and black men are 6 times more likely to be incarcerated than white men.
/r/MensRights30/08/14 01:41 PM
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I can't hand hold for the racist but oh so much. At some point they have to get it together and realize a men's issue is a men's issue even if it's a black men's issue. I have no problem accepting issues that only or primarily affect white men but if they are so caught up in white supremacy they filter out all the colored peoples issues that means we need to call them on it at the least. Half those shot by the police are white but we shouldn't be dependent on the inclusion of white men to make i…
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:06 AM
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That was my first sentence.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 03:01 AM
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This link to the opposition. Have fun.
/r/MensRights29/08/14 02:18 AM
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In public leftists would bang on about racist whitey, but in private they would celebrate his death. What? You should recognize the magic of MLK was not scaring whitey like the more radical Civil Rights Activist. Don't try and port race issues into this gender mess created by white women seeking redress from white men who leveraged their relatively higher social position to coopt the agendas of other groups. This does not mean that 'leftist' is interchangeable with feminists, or SJW. The gender …
/r/MensRights29/08/14 02:16 AM
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We should all be able to voice our opinions and debate the issues freely. Removing the constraints the SJW approach places on us all would certainly open up possibilities. I for one have confidence that unfair prejudice is better challenged through dialogue rather than forcing those with biases into silence through censorship.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 07:47 PM
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A distinction should be made between social justice and the SJW authoritarians seeking to control every person on earth with their rigid ideological interpretation of equality that requires such an approach to be effective. Men's Rights is after all a social justice cause. We can't very well demand the state act to help men while condemning any effort to help various identity groups in the society. Of course some are less attached to the idea of the state intervening on any groups behalf but the…
/r/MensRights28/08/14 07:40 PM
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What's obvious in all this arguing is a blended approach works best and that requires constant debate over what should be an issue and which approach would work best. We can't escape complexity but we can champion approaches that seem right to us. Trying not to be deceived by others or fall victim to personal biases is an obligation we all have. Let's remember not to get too full of ourselves. No one side or person has all the answers.
/r/MensRights28/08/14 04:31 AM
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I'd rather focus on substance than nitpick over sources. People post crap form WND.com here which IMO is racist as hell.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:09 PM
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. So why aren't more men creating men-only scholarships? Is that a rhetorical question because that would go over about as well as Whites only scholarships. We're living in a feminist dominated western society that won't even allow for the discussion of the gender gap in higher education negatively impacting males. This is still a fringe issue most people have never heard of. I showed you the disparate in scholarships to show how heavily focus on women is preferred to that of any other class of …
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:04 PM
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Because women are not facing ANY structural barriers while the poor (most often Black & Hispanic) are. Women from the same background as the men in STEM who grew up in the same homes and went to the same school but simply due to lack of personal interest chose some other field of study are not oppressed victims needing millions of dollars in assistance to get them in STEM. The same case can be made for men in Health or Education. I can see value in getting men into elementary education because w…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 04:02 PM
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When you get shot in the back of a police car with handcuffs on I think it transcends race. It's one of those circumstances so freakish we ought presume guilt on the part of the officers and if they could get away with that then who is safe from their abuse? It's a men's rights issue even if TYT treated regarded it as a race issue. If police can shoot men while handcuffed in the back of police cars then that's a problem. The fact the men are black is incidental considering half of those killed b…
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:54 PM
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TYT isn't a legit boogeyman. They struggle to be fair to men which is more than I can say for the rest of the media.
/r/MensRights27/08/14 03:34 PM
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Patriarchy's definition is mutable because as it changes from overt declarations of male right to authority over the home, family and society to the cultural legacy of assigned gender roles as we transition to gender equality. I'm not one of those there is no 'patriarchy' people especially since I find the concept so useful in pointing out feminist hypocrisy. I'm of the opinion they have been exploiting patriarchy or as others have put it 'gynocentric patriarchy'. I also feel the need to use ter…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 09:27 PM
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The second shooting case
/r/MensRights26/08/14 07:23 PM
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You really nailed it and it's one of the best rebuttals I've seen to this gaming issue.
/r/MensRights26/08/14 05:34 PM
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Instead, we should up the game. Let's try to get all underrepresented minorities involved in the field. That's sounds great but the reality is those with privilege will use it to keep attention on themselves. In this case that will likely mean the army of White & Asian feminists activist positioned throughout the media and institutions will make a coordinated effort to keep resources going to women like them. For example with college scholarships 80% are geared towards women and a mere 6% for et…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 10:20 AM
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In that case programs could target low income schools and avoid race. No genetic lottery required. The point is we should be trying to close the digital divide on the lower end of the income spectrum instead of talking women into career paths the don't want likely have better options they would prefer. Having women in equal numbers in every field doesn't do anything special. I'm not even especially interested in any particular group but if we're going to throw resource at something we might as w…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 10:00 AM
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The money is going into recruiting women which could be going to expand other excluded groups who are far less represented like those down the economic ladder. What we're getting is a privilege feeding the privileged form of social justice which isn't social justice at all. The promise of diversity isn't going from white men to his sister or Asian men to his sister. It's opening the society to people from diverse backgrounds not the one born with a different genitals who otherwise shared homes a…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 05:01 AM
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Over there women compete hard for jobs because they need the money. We don't know poverty in our midst like they do. Their societies don't come with elaborate social welfare programs. It's far more competitive and assuming it's because women are respected more is absurd. These cultures have far more sexism and hold tight to traditional gender roles in a way we do not. Do you realize Iran of all places turns out a higher percentage of women in STEM than any nation on earth? Don't tell me it's bec…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:46 AM
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Why would you give women extra financial aide? If women choose that path they do. You can even encourage them but bribing them is downright unfair. It would make more sense to give all CS majors aide if our goal was to get more workers in that field. Having them be women isn't necessary. In the case of poor minorities I might see such an effort as anti poverty but even then you're already dealing with the privileged classes among them if you're not seeking out those in poor communities. In that …
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:41 AM
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It's male dominated because women choose other fields. Men shouldn't be made to feel guilty about that anymore than whites ought feel guilty about their domination of winter sports. Diversity is not every person from every background making the exact same choices at the same rate or we'd likely see no real difference between these groups. There are various times when diversity is actually needed to solve a problem created by the lack of it but in field like industrial automation I don't see what…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:37 AM
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I think the push exists because privileged white women see means of manipulating their white men into doing things they want and have exploited it. These mind games never end and it has nothing to do with sexism. This is about women with a false sense of entitlement making demand of men who they know are naturally sympathetic towards them and using equality as a pretext for moral authority. In this fast moving field I don't see equivalent efforts to get far less represented Black and Hispanic mi…
/r/MensRights26/08/14 04:27 AM
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I found it on /r/feminism and it began pretty good because he did something that could be seen as gender neutral by placing blame on children emerging coming into adulthood late in life on helicopter parents but then pivoted to all sorts of random theories that wouldn't stand up to even a basic challenge. He associated men desiring spontaneity in 'hook-ups' with gender inequality without bothering to look at the same patterns in homosexual relationships.
/r/MensRights25/08/14 04:55 AM
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The problem is police aren't making the effort to shoot less people because the people failed to make an issue out of it. IMO police should not be committing over 5% of homicides. In 2013 Seattle police committed 1/3 of homicides. In Ferguson police committed the only homicide all year in killing Mike Brown. That city has very average crime stats despite it's poverty so police being on edge seems out of place. I think we should be making less excuses for dropping the ball. At the least shooting …
/r/MensRights25/08/14 04:12 AM
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I'm getting tired of correcting your ignorance and stupidity. You need to learn the basics of anti racism and sexism if you want to engage in this sort of dialogue. You have no idea how to deal with issues of oppression and discrimination. Just pulling stupid shit out your ass isn't going to cut it. Hispanics have a much stronger case about police killing and assaulting them. I gave you stats for California not the nation and the case against police shooting people is based on a desire to see le…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 04:10 AM
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I will when you stop blaming whites for all your problems. You make it pretty easy to place blame on white by demonstrating the narrative of hostile racist whites imposing policies meant to oppress or harm minorities they fear for which there is overwhelming evidence throughout American history. I can move beyond that perspective and onto more neutral ground of a common human struggle for a fairer society but racist like you make that choice impractical. It forces me and others back into challen…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 03:41 AM
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You just showed me that Hispanics, not blacks, are the main victims of police homicide shootings. So what? Would you stop putting yourself up on some pedestal that shouldn't exist? Being in the group with high rates of victimization that get ignored by a hostile majority is not a pedestal one seeks. You seek to confront these issues despite the majority groups indifference to your peoples suffering. It's nonsense like this which leads SJW to believe everyone needs an exhaustive education in oppr…
/r/MensRights25/08/14 02:54 AM
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And when I responded, apologizing for potentially upsetting her (I meant this in earnest), I also explained my feeling behind it and provided evidence. I think that was a mistake. You should tell them they ought to care about your feelings considering apology only reinforces their false entitlement. These oppressive women don't deserve our respect and they don't speak for most women. They like the male chauvinist of the past try and lift their self esteem at others expense. Don't take any crap f…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 05:30 PM
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Make that Angry white male shit. Ha ha!
/r/MensRights24/08/14 04:45 PM
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I watched I don't have a good reason why you should do the same. Curiosity? It's not even good opposition research since he packages some tired cliches about male entitlement around the flimsiest of evidence. He got his speaking fee I suppose.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 04:45 PM
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Statistics on Intimate Partner Murder not included in the article.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 04:40 PM
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I'd hope we're spending as much time elevating male victimization as they do attacking these stats. The study being used has male numbers and if you don't know them read the damn study.
/r/MensRights24/08/14 04:33 PM
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When you're race starts rioting? We had race riots in our history and Ferguson is not one. At no point do we forfeit our rights by having people of your race do something illegal. It's as simple as that. You want to generalize and execute the scared white policing the blacks thing as if it's not the same mentality as the segregationist sicking the dogs on blacks. They brought dogs to Ferguson. "The problem is that blacks have FAR more advantages than white people in a lot of aspects (hell the un…
/r/MensRights24/08/14 04:10 PM
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FYI: "California 183 total (102 fatal)". These are just shootings by police for 2011. It's easy to see we'd arrive at well over 1000 shootings/killings by police over 10 years. It's telling when police shootings approach the rate of domestic violence homicide which was 147 for 2011. For that same year there were 1794 homicides. Police shootings made up around 6% of that figure. Also interesting is the racial break down: 16.2% White, 48.5% Hispanic, 30.1% Black. Nationwide a black man is shot by …
/r/MensRights24/08/14 04:01 PM
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The situation is far from clear and I know you haven't engaged in this debate because that ambiguous definitions for street harassment are a huge problem. I don't see how you go from 'not black and white' to 'crystal clear'. That's kind of the same thing.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 10:10 PM
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Another punitive policy hammering poor fathers. They destroy lives without giving it a second thought because saying you're "getting tough" sounds good.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 10:02 PM
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MoC issues are still Men's Issues.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:07 PM
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FYI: White males and black females have roughly the same rate of incarnation.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:06 PM
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From politifact link Our ruling In response to the Zimmerman case, social media repeated this claim: "In the 513 days between Trayvon dying, and today’s verdict, 11,106 African-Americans have been murdered by other African-Americans." Some who are citing this statistic are using it to portray race as an overemphasized point in the Zimmerman trial. We’re not evaluating that opinion; we’re fact-checking the math based on the available data. The number sounds extremely precise, but it's actually so…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 04:01 PM
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You know what's counterproductive? Racist people assuming it's the responsibility of blacks to disprove the stereotypes. They get to be human an individuals like everyone else without getting approval from white supremacists. I find this kind of bigotry remarkably hypocritical from a Men's Rights activist busy fighting negative stereotyping of men but fail to see the blatantly racist expectation that other races of people to invalidate the fear mongering being used against them. Civil unrest com…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:51 PM
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WHY? We have more killings by police than all other Western Nations combined. Assuming it's justified is why the issue isn't being dealt with properly. Justified in this sense simply means the officer had an excuse. It does not mean it was the only way to resolve the situation and that's what we need to look at. We spend millions and years just to put a person to death after conviction. Why let cops run around shooting people who make them nervous. We ought demand better policing or we'll end up…
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:42 PM
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The gaps in race and gender in sentencing are calculated with consideration of peoples criminal history and the severity of the crime. The gaps remain. The crack-cocaine sentencing gap for example creates systemic racial bias giving lower sentences the form of the drug wealthier people are more likely to consume. Even without considering laws biased to favor the wealthy we still find a racial bias of about 15-20% which seems minor compared to the 60% gap due to gender bias.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:26 PM
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You fail to realize these are the same sort of arguments feminist are making against men. Yes men do engage in more crime but we don't expect police interaction to end in their death. We do find crime is greater in poorer populations and even greater among those living in poor communities. We see high crime rates among the poor minority populations including Hispanics and Native Americans. It's more than just a black issue. Better to say it's a poor man's issue.
/r/MensRights22/08/14 03:04 PM
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You know better. If Google was all we needed then raising awareness about issues not covered by mainstream media wouldn't be necessary.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:49 PM
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It is a feminism MRM issue and if you haven't been around long enough to see how big this fight has been then I suggest you Google "Rebecca Watson" and "Anita Sarkisean". There is drama for days and Men's Rights have been firmly against the influence of these manipulative individuals hiding behind feminsm while making damsel in distress plays to increase their own power & wealth. These women make names by attacking men collectively and vilifying them anyway they can. They've done it to great suc…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:46 PM
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You need to stop embracing oppression as a norm and stand up to it. That's what it is when powerful people organize to silence the less powerful especially when it's to conceal corrupt practices by the powerful. In this case the powerful faction defending itself is the same one that attacks men without end to score page hits. We should be on the side of those opposing their abuse of power.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:42 PM
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We're dealing with a climate of heavy handed censorship and Men's Rights should be one place where it can be challenged. It's certainly a men's issue when a feminist who's attacked men to make a name for herself is not being exposed as a hypocrite but feminist media power is keeping that information from being shared. Taking down this kind of corruption is a vital interest of Men's Rights who are being demonized by the very same people doing the censoring. How many more gaming forums must men be…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:37 PM
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The "War On Drugs" is a something Men's Rights should be standing against considering the number of men's lives destroyed by it. It's been waged by those imposing their morality over what we put in our own bodies. Enough is enough.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:27 PM
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These corrupt people in social justice have turned it into a self serving enterprise to excuse their own megalomania. They are not entitled to total control over everyone in the society. We are in fact allowed to think for ourselves and disagree. Even in the fight against actual oppression that sort of thing is required. It's how the oppressed people of whatever group manage to oppose the dominant ones. These fools would have us believe they can claim oppression and thus curtail any critique lev…
/r/MensRights20/08/14 05:25 PM
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" A woman should be able to engage in sexual relations with her peers and not be publicly smeared for it." Astounding hypocrisy from the motherboard article considering men have been savaged for doing the exact same thing usually followed with claims of sexual harassment. I do wonder how people are even supposed to do this when so much as a sexual advance towards a coworker or person in the industry is considered a firing offense.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 03:00 PM
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We need to train cops to shoot fewer people. I'm amazed we're so cowed by these authority figures that's the last thing on so many peoples minds. It starts with holding them accountable when they screw up instead of making excuses for them.
/r/MensRights20/08/14 04:37 AM
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No you weren't banned. That message would say you are not allowed to comment on the post.
/r/MensRights19/08/14 06:06 PM
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Yes but not at the expense of continuing to address the larger sociological factors. Those organizations are only useful in getting whites to focus on these issues with exception to the black panthers whom are not really worthy of recognition except to scare whites about the non threat of black nationalism taking off again which would in turn give credence to whites pursuing such a path. The crisis facing poor blacks is more useful in highlightingredients bad social policy. Getting blacks to tak…
/r/MensRights16/08/14 10:22 PM
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I don't approve. This ass can't see past his own ego and although valid points are mixed with the make whites conservatives feel good rhetoric the fact remains we're dealing with a people apart not an integrated population 150 years after slavery. This is unlike the gender situation we're a lot more comfortable with debating. Life choices matter but your options are class dependent and the further narrowed by social connections. Such social networks were so significant in a 25 year study of poor…
/r/MensRights16/08/14 09:12 PM
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This is what feminist oppression looks like. Purge all dissent, subjugate the men, and prioritize the satisfaction of women above all others.
/r/MensRights16/08/14 01:43 PM
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I commented on this issue earlier and I was basically calling out the White MRA's who are so anxious about these issues that we end up avoiding them. We did the SJW 's suck thing a lot and it's hard for some to grasp there are legitimate perspectives from the SJW that do apply when we're talking about race even if they stopped making sense on gender. Still I've learned enough about the right/libertarian side to see where we have a great deal of common ground. I think we need to take a stand agai…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 03:58 PM
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Great analysis and thanks for the link. I wish we had more people like you to lead this conversation.
/r/MensRights15/08/14 02:41 PM
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The degree to which there was rioting has been a settled with so much media on the ground with MSNBC hosting a show on location. Clearly it was the police that were the greatest source of fear and danger Thursday night. Al Jazeera had to run a away from the live shot. The police intentionally shot a tear gas canister directly at their position then put their camera facing down. That's crazy! Those people have been under the thumb of a god awful police department that was so extreme they unprovok…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 02:39 PM
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As a movement I hope we could stand in solidarity with so many others against blatant injustice. We do stand for men and we know it's men who are getting gunned down. Feminist manage this leap and I think Men's Rights shouldn't be so conflicted about it. Protecting men from police brutality should be apart of our platform. The fact they are black doesn't have to be the issue but we must be able to deal with the race issue or isolate ourselves from blacks men who need a place outside feminism fro…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 12:33 AM
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Thanks for letting me know because I didn't know deadspin was Gawker. I think we're getting left out a important conversation but what angle is Men's Rights versus a lot of other stuff mixes together is hard to work out.
/r/MensRights15/08/14 12:27 AM
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Go ahead and call out the assholes but simply making a pass doesn't qualify. If you followed the street harassment debate you'd know many won't even tolerate a person making a pass at another. The issue isn't as simple as feminist present it on the surface because the asexuals and lesbians might lean towards zero tolerance for male advances of any kind. Even the straight women might just find men making passes annoying but they are the vocal minority attracted to these debates not the majority o…
/r/MensRights15/08/14 12:25 AM
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I forget who's butt we have to kiss to keep this alliance going that makes talking about race and sexuality so toxic but I think it's the right wingers or something. Maybe it's just regular white dudes who feel nobody ever cares about them elsewhere who want a movement where they are the special ones. I don't really know but it's getting annoying because it makes us all look stupid. Feminist have been doing it for years and we have to step up our game if we want to be relevant. We shouldn't be s…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 08:07 PM
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I tried posting something earlier and it vanished. It was a strongly racial perspective on the situation but we should be big enough to talk about it anyway. We're so far behind feminist here and in other areas and acting like we're the new kids on the block who haven't had a chance to get up to speed isn't going to work for long. Their talking to us now. We need to do better than with the big picture of what equality looks like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wt8yEGacIs#t=14 Can't rely on Men…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:56 PM
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Too many white people here and they get bitter when we're not talking about white men. That's the truth but it gets spun lots of ways. White feminist do the same damn thing on black issues but they at least learned giving a little lip service goes a long way and that's really all MRA's have to give anyway. I hope people wake up and the white men here who think their some marginalized group recognize talking about race or sexuality matters from time to time won't steal the shine from straight whi…
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:48 PM
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mi·sog·y·ny məˈsäjənē/Submit noun dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women. "she felt she was struggling against thinly disguised misogyny" What the hell does that list have to do with that? It's more likely they combined list for sociopaths and narcissistic personality disorders with a few hand picked elements associated with physically violent people.
/r/MensRights14/08/14 07:34 PM
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Why is this post still here? Oh it's been 8 minutes...
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:42 PM
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It's not pointless. If you know how to work the social justice angles you can trigger some serious self reflection.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:19 PM
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I think we need to let women work out their own business and this slut shaming has long been a tool they used to keep their men from wandering as much as men used it to insure paternity. This casual experiment will run it's course as it had in the past. What's important is that men don't go back to imposing the social norms on women or we'll end up right back where we started. We can teach our daughters to be the best women they can be which should include not submitting to every sexual compulsi…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 10:17 PM
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The problem here is you can't get past taking the most extreme example of a behavior and using it as the norm. That's not constructive. Imagine saying people shouldn't drive because you saw a wreckless driver get in a accident. We should not be susceptible to the that kind of silliness. The relevant question is do we need movements to regulate every behavior by men women find annoying and I don't think we do. People self regulate for the most part and even if some falter we should not react by c…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 05:10 PM
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Another police shooting of a unarmed black man happened laying on his stomach happened yesterday in LA: “They laid him out and for whatever reason, they shot him in the back, knowing mentally, he has complications. Every officer in this area, from the Newton Division, knows that — that this child has mental problems,” the man said.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 04:44 PM
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Where a T-Shirt saying: "I don't talk to women because feminist told me not to!"
/r/MensRights13/08/14 12:18 PM
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That does not please most women. Living as feminist tell men to live does not please most women. We need freedom just like women not a tyrannical puppet master who can't stop manipulating men plaint men.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 12:17 PM
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YES!
/r/MensRights13/08/14 12:15 PM
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Making up their mind collectively makes mind games that much harder to play individually but of course there is not conspiracy on the part of most women. Feminist manipulate men. It's that simple.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 12:12 PM
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Women feel entitled to comment on men and men on women. We talk about each other all the damn time. This is apart of our close relationship as sexes that literally produce one another by getting together, doing the nasty, and pumping out little humans. We have to stop falling for this hyper sensitive B.S because it's not how normal women think. You must speak to actual women who aren't in feminist circles and they'll get you back down to earth. I understand that there are a lot of assholes in th…
/r/MensRights13/08/14 12:11 PM
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Here's a section of the CDC NISVS 2010 i came across showing stats on LGBT: For women: - Lesbian – 43.8% - Bisexual – 61.1% - Heterosexual – 35.0% For men: - Gay – 26.0% - Bisexual – 37.3% - Heterosexual – 29.0% •The lifetime prevalence of severe physical violence by an intimate partner (e.g., hit with fist or something hard, slammed against something, or beaten) was: For women: - Lesbian – 29.4% - Bisexual – 49.3% - Heterosexual – 23.6% For men: - Gay – 16.4% - Bisexual – numbers too small to r…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 10:15 PM
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These are not easy things to find. The Hindu Times couldn't even find a good study on rape of women in India which made me feel better because I also tried and failed. Here is a excellent study on Child physical and sexual abuse in India. Interestingly boys reported higher rates of sexual abuse than girls. Here is a great documentary on the sexual abuse homeless of boys in Pakistan. It was posted here with the claim '90% of homeless boys in Pakistan have been sexually abused" which seems entirel…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 04:42 PM
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I love how you're completely avoiding the fact that one of the catcallers decided to physically assault someone for telling them they should stop. I'm not avoiding it. It is a fact of life that some people are TERRIBLE PEOPLE! They don't go away because we bitch about it. That's the shallow nonsense we see being peddled by feminists along with the casual assertion we have to feign outrage every time we hear of someone behaving badly to prove our commitment to sympathy for women's feelings. I'm n…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 03:17 PM
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You really have no idea what you're talking about. The 'feelings of women' aren't some sacred cow we must worship especially when it's a minority of women who complain without end to get attention. The fact some random person in our free nation decides to seek the attention of women they find attractive is not some social crisis we need to purge. The MRA's who I see playing white knight on the issue are those who think they are morally superior to the men who flirt with random women. They are no…
/r/MensRights12/08/14 03:13 PM
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It wasn't that bad. The MRM has suffered far worse than hokey music.
/r/MensRights12/08/14 02:07 PM
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White knight or no white knight those other guys were cunts. That goes without saying but the patriahal traditions of defending a women's honor imply men would have to risk violent confrontation to meet that end. There are feminst suggesting men take that risk today because men ought police other men. This is very relavent to those who actually engage in those debates and it provides the evidence they need to counter demands men do this.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 06:24 AM
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thanks
/r/MensRights10/08/14 06:20 AM
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thanks
/r/MensRights10/08/14 06:20 AM
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No one is entitled to talk to people in ways that will make them uncomfortable, regardless of gender. In that case we're not entitled to disagree wiht feminst because it makes them feel unconfortable. THINK MAN THINK! You threw yourself right into the hypersensitivity trap we've been fighting to get out of. It would be nice if more of you guys actually engaged feminst and discussed these issues with them so you'd have some idea why this stuff is getting posted. I assumed people did but I see so …
/r/MensRights10/08/14 06:18 AM
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You need to realize street harassment can be all sexual advances, compliments, and so little as looking at women. If you think nobody should have to put up with that then go right ahead then I'd say people would fight for the freedom to chat up people who their sexually interseted in. We have sexual harrasment at work, at school, and before you know it asking a girl to dance at a bar will be called sexual harassment. We need to draw a line somewhere so we can be the sexual animals we are instead…
/r/MensRights10/08/14 06:14 AM
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There are multiple campaings going right now regarding street harssment suggesting men stand up for women. This explains succintely why that's a bad idea when it's far easier for the women to ingore the advances or for other women to intevene because they face far lower risk of being attacked.
/r/MensRights10/08/14 06:07 AM
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LOL! I shouldn't laugh at a man down but I took some licks employing 'bystander intervention' to save a random dude getting stomped on a street corner. You can say it worked but I don't blame him for not hanging around. P.S. Blame the liquid courage.
/r/MensRights09/08/14 08:31 PM
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EXACTLY! Men were doing this as a opening line. Before that men were saying some pretty crude things hence Queen Latifa's "who you calling a bitch" in UNITY. Feminist are actually attacking the courteous substitute to "Damn shorty that's a phat ass". Yes dudes used to say shit like that and they stopped on their own because it turned women off. That's how things work out naturally so I'm pretty hostile to the whole campaigns to micro manage relations between the sexes like anti-'friend zone' and…
/r/MensRights07/08/14 11:20 PM
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http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/2013/08/nosmile/ http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/08/01/tatyana-fazlalizadeh-s-street-art-project-stop-telling-women-to-smile.html http://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/06/memoirs-of-an-un-smiling-woman/277063/ It's pretty big in terms of media coverage and push but small in impact because it's a B.S issue most women don't care about. Feminist have been trying to get street harassment off the ground for decades and we all know their more…
/r/MensRights07/08/14 11:15 PM
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I jumped to that conclusion when you have a bunch of white women running the streets of whats presented as a black neighborhood and being harassed by the terrible 'black man'. The creator was black and I see lots of black social justice warriors bending over backwards to get in with the white feminist social justice establishment by pulling stunts like this. Actually addressing black peoples issues won't due. It has to be a white women's problem.
/r/MensRights07/08/14 11:11 PM
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I disagree. Gender issues from the feminist perspective gain more attention because women in the elite push them with the support of elite men who desire their approval. Of course it's most popular in prosperous nations where people can afford to focus on minutea. If you're in a nation like South Africa in the midst of apartheid the central issue won't be gender.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 10:27 PM
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Men did historically oppress women. We can argue about how oppressive it was or even if men too were oppressed by the imposed roles but it most certainly happened.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 06:43 PM
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This liberal bashing is out of pocket. Consider the authoritarian "War on Drugs" from Nixson or get tough on crime Republicans imposing mandatory minimums and three strikes. The people in the business of governing are known to seek control over others. On what basis is one authoritarian and the other not? One seeks to allow abortion and the other to ban it. One protects the rights of gun owners and the other attacks them. Both sides seek to control over different things.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 06:34 PM
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Both consider the historic oppressors to be the root of all problems and seek their removal. Both are examples of the worst kind of authoritarianism: forcing your views and your morality on a population, demonising certain groups and using them as scapegoats (men, white people), and often using violent means to attain your ends. WTF? That oppressive shit in the past actually happened and you write it off as if it were just an excuse to bitch. Other than that you're conflating race and gender lik…
/r/MensRights03/08/14 06:28 PM
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Feminist have been opposing MRA's from the outset so you can lecture them instead of the marginalized group fighting to be heard above feminist's oppressive campaigns of male vilification.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 06:12 PM
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The #WomenAgainstFeminism trend is a HUGE DEAL and if you can't see that it's your problem not ours. The only way we'll get a fair shot at addressing men's issues is if we discredit those saying they aren't worthy of equal attention.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 06:09 PM
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Feminist didn't have to fight very hard to get what they wanted. Most men desire to please women by nature. The racial revolutionaries are famous because they had to face down a hostile oppressor who would use tremendous violence to suppress them and had little to no concern for their welfare. It's not the same as standing up to one's father, husband or brother.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 05:15 PM
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Excuse me if anything was politically incorrect or offensive. This is just based off of stuff I've heard or not heard. You did a great job! Black people aren't spending a great deal of time complaining about racism for many reasons. First of all it pisses off white people. That's why it took so long for Civil Rights Movement to emerge from the shadows. Blacks were terrified of whites who had very little sympathy for them while holding a great deal of power over them. Ultimately it was people get…
/r/MensRights03/08/14 05:13 PM
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Since she kept grabbing your sick after you told her to stop it would qualify as sexual battery. "In the United States, criminal battery, or simply battery, is the use of force against another, resulting in harmful, offensive or sexual contact" - Wikipedia
/r/MensRights02/08/14 04:23 PM
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You know MRA's are fighting actual efforts to oppress men legally? This isn't whining bitter stuff, this is your son has half the chance of getting a degree compared to your daughter stuff.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 01:42 PM
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I'd say 95% of people have no idea what MRA is so don't worry about the label in the real world. Out here on the internet it's different especially in circles that discuss gender issues. These people should have already educated themselves on the various positions and advocates. MRA's are apart of the mix and our impact is being felt because our well reasoned evidence based arguments are more powerful than anything they've seen in a long time at a time when people are primed to jump ship because…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 01:39 PM
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Damn...all that over circumcision?
/r/MensRights29/07/14 01:30 PM
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I personally don't know anyone around me I can offend by taking about MRA positions on issues.
/r/MensRights29/07/14 01:28 PM
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They are annoyed by my obsession with it but I've gotten nothing but support for our positions. In fact I'm often more moderate than most I engage with when it comes to opposing feminist positions because they may lean more traditionalist than me. I'm around a lot of black people which means social conservatives blend seamlessly with the liberals because they are nearly all supporting the Left at the end of the day. Who doesn't know someone who's been falsely accused, a guy with custody issues, …
/r/MensRights29/07/14 01:17 PM
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This generation of black academics are sell outs. How dare they get on television to downplay the need for black fathers knowing the crisis facing their community? They'd rather pander to the feminist establishment that gets them on television than actually do the righteous work of looking out for their struggling people. Britteny Cooper is busy attacking the My brothers Keeper initiative for not including black girls despite the 70% to 30% gender ratio in degree attainment favoring women before…
/r/MensRights29/07/14 03:17 AM
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No they'd be talking about a undocumented women can get a visa by claiming domestic abuse which could provide an incentive to make false claims against men.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 12:44 AM
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I much prefer gynocentric patriarchy. The statistics are on our side but the truth has been systematically suppressed for decades.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 02:51 PM
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From the comments: Zimbabwe is one of the 10 out of 18 countries (for which USAID has figures) where more of the CIRCUMCISED men have HIV than the non-circumcised. A study in Uganda suggested that circumcising men INcreases the risk to women, who are at much greater risk. So how can circumcising more men help?
/r/MensRights22/07/14 06:12 AM
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[Ground-breaking research shows that boys lower their sights if they think their work is going to be marked by a woman because they believe their results will be worse. It also shows their suspicions are correct – female teachers did, on average, award lower marks to boys than unidentified external examiners. Male teachers, by contrast, awarded them higher marks than external examiners.](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/female-teachers-accused-of-giving-boys-lower-marks…
/r/MensRights20/07/14 07:51 PM
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There is a old school hip hop group "De La Soul" that has some powerful male positive music interspersed throughout their history. There is one track "Trying People" I'm particularly fond of. It's on their AOI: Bionix album. I would suggest you check out their albums starting from the latest going backwards. The poignant tracks are trickled throughout.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 02:30 PM
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The public welfare (roads, flood control, infrastructure) which may include social services for the poor (free public schools, homeless shelters, subsidized housing & food).
/r/MensRights19/07/14 04:18 AM
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Both the left and right need to check each other and I think that's why both of them exist.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 04:16 AM
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Black liberal who believes in social justice but hates what's been done to it by privileged liberals manufacturing a narrative on oppression of petty B.S.
/r/MensRights19/07/14 04:16 AM
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Nice to hear a man's testimony on being sexually harassed so severely and persistently. I'm sure that will come in handy one day. A matter of fact it would be great if you write a post on it. I think it's a important story worth sharing.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:28 AM
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I've found some feminist are always willing to take these things as far as they can go because they enjoy wielding that kind of power. I wouldn't underestimate them and the only reason I think street harassment movements keep falling apart is most women don't care enough to support them rather than feminist giving up. There was a thread on XoJane where I argued the hell out of this issue. They couldn't form a consensus on what it was because the Lesbians want no male attention while hetero women…
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:22 AM
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You don't seem to understand when you take stances like that any annoyance a man causes a women becomes a social crisis. Don't start sliding down the slippery slope over petty stuff. Lip smacking and saying your sexy isn't some massive offense that all women must be protected from. They aren't delicate flowers.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:19 AM
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So the next thing is any man who tries to chat up a women in the supermarket get's banned? She's crazy enough to push that sort of thing.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:16 AM
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Yeah I notified her that her article wasn't helping her cause. She dated the guy who was the ring leader of boys who would harass women on the street. She declares she was fond of white men giving her this attention but hostile to black men doing the same while being black and some how these selected anecdotes supposed to make us sympathetic toward her opposition to street harassment.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:14 AM
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It is a stretch. Not having a father doesn't make you not like the police. You can have a father and still have good cause not like the police. You can be a black person in a low crime white community and still have good cause to not like the police like my friend from Connecticut and yes he had a father in the home but that didn't stop police from pulling him over all the damn time.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:09 AM
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Addressing issues affecting men period or even attempting to treat them fairly is something I see on the Young Turks that's lacking in the mainstream.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 04:05 AM
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The sad thing is it's easier to get men to show up to support "My Little Pony" than Men's Rights. The Brownies are far more active and I think that's saying something. http://bronycon.org/ http://video.foxnews.com/v/1386280447001/male-my-little-pony-fans-unite-at-annual-conference/#sp=show-clips
/r/MensRights18/07/14 12:30 AM
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MRA's don't engage in a lot of activism but raising awareness is the purpose of the sub and if there should be a complaint it's whether we're wasting that opportunity.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 12:26 AM
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The whole internet/world isn't anonymous so you can't build a value system based on that assumption.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:15 PM
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No it does not. (on good days)
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:13 PM
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/r/theredpill was a much more suitable place for this post. Men's Rights isn't the place for men who let their envy of women's sexual power becomes a source of resentment. We also see this from feminist who get jealous of men who can walk around with their shirts off without getting unwanted sexual attention. A lot of people need to grow up and Tits or GTFO is some seriously childish bullshit.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 06:09 PM
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It's got nothing to do with their relationship to the police. The innocent and criminal both have come to resent their presence because they often harass people for no good reason. Let's talk about the importance of fathers but don't be so foolish as to connect resentment of occupation style policing with daddy being gone. Daddy is also living in fear of police harassment. I got plenty of stories and they are from black fathers who have fathers.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:15 PM
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Now we have the white power brigade here to put the Negroes in their place. Oh no don't go questioning those trying to hate on black people, we can't have blacks standing up for themselves. The white man gotta keep em on their knees begging for approval from disgusting bigots looking for excuses to hate them. Anti black, black people are common enough. They get in with whites by trashing blacks and I get that. It's not unlike the male feminist but you fail to see that because you're anxious to j…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:10 PM
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There was no damn truth. It was an opinion that was more stupid than offensive if anything.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:05 PM
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You don't even have correlation and causation here. You don't have a poll or study suggesting feelings about the police are linked to relationships between sons and fathers. That report put forth a fact free opinion and a silly one at that.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:05 PM
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Young men with and without fathers in their lives have issues with the police.
/r/MensRights17/07/14 04:03 PM
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Police are like occupation forces in urban black communities. They are often the only white people you'll see on a average day and their presence makes people very uncomfortable. They are there to watch you like a hawk on the off chance you do anything illegal. In areas being gentrified police presence can be overwhelming. I've seen places like Harlem saturated for miles with police covering every line of sight. No matter where you were on the street you were always being watched. It what creepy…
/r/MensRights17/07/14 03:56 PM
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I don't think any children should have been prosecuted for consensual exploration of their sexuality with other young children.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 03:57 PM
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Street harassment is so subjective that allowing such a campaign to mainstream would be a nightmare for both sexes freely interacting with each other. Take sexual harassment from the workplace and make it a universal condition where every unwanted advance is criminalized and that's the sort of risk we're dealing with. There isn't a epidemic of harassment that's crushing women's souls. Talk to real women who aren't feminist because they don't think this is a major issue. That's been the only thin…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 03:40 PM
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He never followed her. It was crude and rude but hardly significant and no serious lines were crossed. A few weeks ago I was strolling through the aisles of a local Wal-Mart when I heard a man behind me mumbling. At first I thought he was on the phone or talking to himself, but as he approached me I could hear “mmmm girl” and “I like that,” between drooling noises and licking his lips, as if my body was some kind of meal his eyes had the right to feast upon. Once I realized he was gawking at me …
/r/MensRights16/07/14 03:37 PM
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I wouldn't post that here. Seriously it's not helping.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 02:48 PM
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16-Year-Old Sentenced to 1-15 Yrs in Maximum Security Prison Equal Pay Is Insulting To Women Says FEMALE Fox News Host Jedediah Bila Stunning American Prison Population Statistics
/r/MensRights16/07/14 01:56 PM
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Feminism appears in developed stable countries where women seek the safe comfortable high status roles men have in such societies. When men's roles are undesirable you won't see women clamoring to take them up.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 12:47 PM
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We're fighting for recognition of men's sacrifices not necessarily to put women in harms way.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 12:44 PM
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While the fact of over representation of men in positions of policy making doesn't necessarily imply protection of Men's Rights, it does seem to make a prima facie case for the idea that if anything, Men's Rights are held higher than the rights of women. Are you high? The body of evidence that is the society we live in clearly demonstrates that the cause of Men's Rights is widely UNPOPULAR! On top of that only a tiny number of people who frequently engage in the gender dialog online even know it…
/r/MensRights16/07/14 12:26 PM
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I don't like gender shaming or blaming. Feminist have ruined my tolerance for that. Let's get back to blaming people and drop the sexism.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 05:35 AM
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Once again we see the privileged feminist establishment defending their privilege of undeserved moral authority over all matters relating to gender and equality.
/r/MensRights14/07/14 03:40 PM
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I think that's silly. In fact I tend to avoid imgur links.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 04:42 PM
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TYT has come out on the side of Men's Rights issue wise many times so I won't take the posting of this feminist pandering idiot seriously. There are a lot of phony liberals out there who playing the feminist cheerleader is their sworn duty no matter how outrageous their demands or expectations. In the media these liberals follow the crowd instead of relying on original thinking because it's safe. They don't stand for anything except advancing their own status and careers.
/r/MensRights13/07/14 03:02 PM
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I'll take the disadvantaged minority side but in no particular order: *1. Mass incarceration *2. Social Services that encourage fathers in the home *3. The gender gap in higher education (larger for minorities) *4. Minorities in tech/stem (regardless of gender both are least represented) *5. Male on Male violence (impacts them more than any group) *6. Issues of K-12 boys in schools (lowest graduation rates highest suspension rates) *7. Issues of child support enforcement (poor men get hit hardes…
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:58 AM
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What we should be asking is why they are doing nothing for the poor or minorities. Feminism has become a tool of privileged women to direct resources back to themselves.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:18 AM
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I see they've improved their section on female on male abuse so the have my support.
/r/MensRights11/07/14 06:09 AM
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The original Elam article and I shouldn't even have to bother. You had enough words in these quotes to employ Google like the rest of us instead of posting here. The Elam comment was a response to a Jezebel piece where they asked the editors if they had beaten their boyfriends and they did. These women boasted about violently attacking their boyfriends and Elam's response was a tongue in cheek reply suggesting men hit back full force. Of course the rest of the article made that clear but you fel…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 03:57 PM
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Did you go back and read all these things in context? If not suspend judgment until you do and or stay away from the quote mining B.S. You should know better than to trust feminist propaganda against Men's Rights. If you're that easily swayed your not ready for this. Compassion for men and boys is not negotiable. The hate group labeling that's been going on is exactly the kind of corrupt power we intend to check and if you're going to fold at a lousy video like this you aren't even worth our tim…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 03:54 PM
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You can look at it another way. Perhaps one day that person could also be properly educated in the problems of men and boys and take them as seriously as those of women and girls. Their is so many unexplored areas of study. We haven't even discussed men's rape by women as a country. I figure curiosity will get the best of some and they'll see the possibilities. Sadly I agree that's probably what this person will be doing and I'll bet they have a Tumblr account. Seriously how do you keep someone …
/r/MensRights10/07/14 03:13 AM
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Master’s preferred in Social work, Public Health, Women’s and Gender Studies This goes to show how deep feminist thought penetrates the social sciences. To some extent this is a good thing. They are strong advocates for diversity and such but the catch 22 is your stuck with a ideology that so deeply negative towards males (half of humanity) the possibility of it being equally compassionate towards all humanity becomes entirely implausible. Feminism should not be scrapped but it must be reformed.…
/r/MensRights10/07/14 03:01 AM
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Remember according to them the fewer the reports the bigger the problem. The more reports the bigger the problem. There is always going to be a HUGE PROBLEM!
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:44 PM
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I think telling adults to leave the kids alone is sound policy. I really don't care if the kids or adults in question 'want it'. The desire itself can exist along with all sorts of strange impulses to be found in a human minds but acting on them is out of the question. Here is an interesting article huffpo discussing pedophilia and queer theory.
/r/MensRights09/07/14 10:33 PM
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By god that women is self absorbed. So far 15 minutes in and she's still talking about herself. This solipsistic social justice is about people inventing forms phony oppressions so they can demand moral authority over others. It's self serving B.S.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 11:37 PM
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I'm more happy it gives us a chance to engage and educate.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:37 PM
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Critical theory needs criticism like every other theory. We are supposed to evolve these things not trap ourselves in ideological bubbles of group think enforced by vicious bullying of opponents. Personal responsibility is a valid consideration. We can't externalize all blame for everything and expect people to function like adults. Embracing complexity means we looking at more than just the negative influence we've chosen to scapegoat. It's not just guns, it's not just race, it's not just pover…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:30 PM
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ma·tri·ar·chy noun \ˈmā-trē-ˌär-kē\ : a family, group, or government controlled by a woman or a group of women : a social system in which family members are related to each other through their mothers I'm going with the family because these poor men don't stand a chance at controlling much else.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 04:18 PM
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Are yo fucking kidding me? You take a source posting under 'US Conservative" that links to a primary source that doesn't have the evidence their quoting and you think that's okay? That to me is engaging like a feminist running around with crazy biases without regard for the evidence. Why not quote me women owning 1% of the wealth on the world or some other dumb factoid. It's the same sort of crap. Try a primary source with credibility because I'm fed up with the far right thinking men's rights i…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:59 PM
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You left out the sarcasm tag.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:47 PM
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The counter culture movement was also a move against white supremacy. The established culture was saturated with racism and sexism which undermined traditional culture as a whole. A rebirth was needed but the form that took is certainly worth critiquing.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:32 PM
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For a long, long time it has been social planning to remove black men from the home. We have close to 400 years of women raising kids absent male figures. And, this is the result. Source for your bullshit? If they said social policies that made that outcome far more likely then they'd be correct. To say it was planned to would require some more evidence but I wouldn't put it past feminist or white supremacist to seek that outcome.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:30 PM
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We have close to 400 years of women raising kids absent male figures. And, this is the result. You are wrong about that. This breakdown of the black family was a recent development post slavery. http://beta.census.gov/hhes/socdemo/marriage/data/acs/ElliottetalPAA2012paper.pdf We find that the 1950s and 1960s were an anomaly for men and women given the high proportions married at young ages. Race differences are particularly interesting, as black women were more often married than white women pri…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:26 PM
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I'd disagree: In 2011, non-Hispanic Black women were most likely to be single heads of households with family members present (27.5 percent), while non-Hispanic Asian and non-Hispanic White women were least likely (7.5 and 9.4 percent, respectively). Further evidence Seventy-four percent of White, non-Hispanic, 59 percent of Hispanic, and 33 percent of Black children lived with two married parents in 2012. The black community is arguably the most matriarchal in America.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:23 PM
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This is exactly why the far right has nothing to contribute to this dialogue. Your to busy dehumanizing and hating like feminist. You basically make a argument against compassion for men which means you and your traditionalist disposable male bullshit are the problem.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:01 PM
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Most of them don't shoot people. I think you're going to have to get more specific to deal with the culture of violence which is certainly made worse by fatherless families but it's not the whole story.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:59 PM
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The smartest thing is to call you a white nationalist trying to hijack men's rights.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:58 PM
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Mostly black men but why does not matter? Better to say it's mostly the men around the men being shot.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:58 PM
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That would only be true if their assumptions about gang related homicide dominating murder statistics. Outside of gangs street violence and homicide still happen. We are supposed to be looking for ways to help men not find scapegoats among them.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:57 PM
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I didn't find that quote in your source but I did find another perspective elsewhere. http://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/measuring-the-extent-of-gang-problems The total number of gang homicides reported by respondents in the NYGS sample averaged more than 1,900 annually from 2007 to 2011. During the same time period, the FBI estimated, on average, more than 15,500 homicides across the United States (www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/…
/r/MensRights08/07/14 02:55 PM
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Poor men are often worse off than poor women. They are the people who fill our prisons.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:34 AM
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The Civil Rights Movement did help poor white southerners so you need to deal with that ignorance. Racial issues are addressed by confronting the struggles of the power a classes. That focus on the poor meant programs like Medicaid, TANF, Section 8, disability, which helped poor whites. Don't conflate race and gender. You can compare them and form analogies but you have to really be careful.
/r/MensRights04/07/14 04:32 AM
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Men's Rights is awareness focused because the biggest problem right now is people don't know men have issues of equal significance to those of women. It would be nice to have solutions and answers that help men in abusive relationships or custody battles with pathological liars dead set on keeping them from their kids but we've been busy telling people it is a problem so people would start to talk about what could be done. Perhaps this is a fault on our part or maybe we can blame those who show …
/r/MensRights04/07/14 03:25 AM
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Study http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cdev.12079/abstract Article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9862473/Boys-worse-at-school-due-to-stereotypes.html ""These studies suggest that negative academic stereotypes about boys are acquired in children's earliest years of primary education and have self-fulfilling consequences."
/r/MensRights30/06/14 02:03 AM
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The odds of a false allegation of rape are even lower than the already low 0.1% of students reporting these offenses so I wouldn't worry. If you are really that paranoid ABR (always be recording). Audio will due just fine but check the wire tap laws in the state to see whether or not the other party needs to be notified. If you must notify then do that.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:58 AM
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rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:49 AM
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I know all too well the racism of fine black men and women like yourself and don't buy your crocodile tears. So you decided to be a racist and have excuses to be racist? That's usually how it goes but your a bigot just the same. I have no issue with whites because their just people. As a demographic they can plausibly threaten my minority and have done so in the past. They might even create unfair systems without regard for their impact on that minority. That's the basis for questioning what whi…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:37 AM
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Disinfo agent? I'm unfamiliar with whatever corner of the internet you called out of but you're lucky you chose a free speech zone that doesn't censor to control the dialogue. Most of us are just responsible enough to control ourselves because we care deeply about addressing the issues being raised here. You clearly have ulterior motives and in a cause that brings men together of all races, sexualities and genders. We don't need or want your kind. Dissent is welcome, hate is not. Cultural Marxis…
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:27 AM
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Anyone else catch the hilarious "show your workings" exchange in the comments? Yeah I missed it thanks for pointing it out.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:11 AM
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Indeed looking at poor outcomes for others doesn't mean anything when your main concern is ignoring them so you can get more attention.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 02:09 AM
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Good post.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 01:39 AM
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Yes we're disproving it all the time by showing the true statistics. For example male gender dominance of women driving rape is proven false by the same rates of rape among gay men. The same narrative with domestic violence falls apart when you look at DV symmetry. These theories are just propaganda tools. It's conjecture without evidence to achieve political ends from people who cast themselves as experts after being taught how to spin reality through a elaborate system of excuses and justifica…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:46 PM
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We will be made to look bad no matter what because we take the side of men and a threat to the feminist narrative. IF this wasn't something you we had have deal with we wouldn't have trouble finding men to defend men. The intimidation by feminist is what keeps people silent for decades on end. We're calling their bluff and going in and their hitting back. They labeled AVFM a hate group before any of those articles you mention and after AFVM exposed RadFemHub which had a prominent female author c…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:39 PM
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I have to deal with the feminist who are attacking Elam so I know there is only one real bad one. I read that post when it came out originally and thought he'd lost it. There was no sarcasm plug or anything. It was a bad post, it should not have been made. It was not well received and you won't here anyone talking about 'nullification'.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:31 PM
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The prominent feminist who write the articles and what not are so chuck full of man hatred we can Google 'misogyny' and get a long list right out of mainstream publications. You might be new to this game but those who've read their articles know the deal. Do you even know what 'name the problem' means? That's misandry in a nutshell. There's a difference between "walking on pins and needles" and making sure that whatever messages we put out to the public are actually positive. Not stuff that will…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:29 PM
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The Republicans were the ones that pushed for civil rights and a significantly higher percentage of them voted for it than the Democrats Yes I know that which is why I mentioned it. The Dixiecrats decided to become Republicans so even if they were not initially sympathetic to racist they inherited them from the Democratic party. The fact is the Republican party got voters hostile to minorities. The Southern Strategy happened and it never really ended. Those that remained in the Democrats were th…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 10:21 PM
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You need to see this video: 90% of homeless boys in Pakistan are sexually abused.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 09:25 PM
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Male Studies is one of the most unappreciated great things out there ( not to be confused with Feminism's Men's Studies) So go to: http://www.malestudies.org/events.html Download and watch the "Foundation for Male Studies - The Science of the Male, NY Academy of Medicine" symposium videos with your mom. Since you're a biologist it should be right up your alley. More good stuff: http://www.malestudies.org/assets/forevery100girls.pdf
/r/MensRights23/06/14 08:40 PM
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Much better link breaking those UK numbers down. http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2014/06/11/can-we-finally-nail-down-those-male-victim-statistics/
/r/MensRights23/06/14 08:28 PM
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Blacks on the right act like Male feminist. They're carted out to tell whites how black people suck so whites can get their supremacy fix without looking racist. I respect right wing values but the politics on the right are loaded to the hilt with race baiting and dog whistles. You don't become a 90% white party in a 35% minority nation for no reason. The hostile climate around racial affirmative action that's small scale and fairly benign versus the indifference to gender affirmative action is …
/r/MensRights23/06/14 05:56 PM
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If information was presented that showed that the concept of 'patriarchy' does not exist, we could move on from that and feminists could stop using it, instead of perpetuating it - or move to the new movement. What makes you think feminist would listen to reason after intentionally ignoring male victims of sexual and domestic violence for decades to protect their power? You need to understand what kind of fight those who focus on men's issues are in. They face a powerful establishment immune to …
/r/MensRights23/06/14 05:29 PM
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The MRM is male focused in a culture where men's issues are generally ignored or downplayed by the society. You can be a 'egalitarian' but even then you'll have to acknowledge men have far more under addressed issues. Feminist don't like egalitarians which should tell you something but MRA's do. Men's Rights isn't a trap that ignores women's problems, it simply doesn't seek solutions based on the assumption men are culturally predisposed towards harming women. It sees both sexes as equally good …
/r/MensRights23/06/14 05:10 PM
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Black men are 7% of the population and commit 49% of homicides. Tell them that and explain their brand of bigotry is exactly like that of white supremacist. You don't use crime stats to vilify vast populations and doing so would have a disproportionate negative impact on minorities. Female chauvinism is just as toxic and ego driven as the male variety.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:28 PM
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Then give them crap on hating men. They are starting to get that message loud and clear because it went on unimpeded for decades on end. You focus on every tiny flaw we have instead of the huge ones on their side and why nobody seems concerned with the welfare of men. No many quote mined jewels they dig up it will never outweigh the enormity of the cause we are fighting for. Not many people are brave enough to take on feminism and even those of us behind a pseudonym have cause to be intimidated.…
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:13 PM
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That is the only article you can attack after how many? Get real.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:06 PM
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Warren Farell has been there th whole time and feminist protest him just the same. He was on the board of NOW for god sake. Learn something that MRA's figured out long ago. They intend to destroy your credibility no matter what you do so go on doing you. That's why Elam is irreverent as he is, in the same way early feminist were. The difference being is women are not in the protector provider role when it comes to men and culturally we have far less sympathy for men.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 04:05 PM
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You will never win trying to make feminist happy. Men have to show some courage and stand above their judgmental B.S. They talk about the splinter in our eye and ignore the log in theirs.
/r/MensRights23/06/14 06:41 AM
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Yeah that was a shallow comment and you're right to condemn it. Who am I to declare PUA are bad for men? It was arrogant and stupid. Good call checking me on it
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:30 PM
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Thanks for demonstrating the kind of racism black men and women have to put up with even if we spend our time advocating for and defending white men. This is classic right wing race baiting bigotry built on the ignorant assumptions they use to pull guilible white voters. I wish we didn't have to deal with it but we do. Here is some reading material for you. http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/economix/2012/02/13/who-benefits-from-the-safety-net/?_r=0& Always outnumbered and still ain't scared.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:21 PM
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/R/WhiteRights strikes again like clock work. You are the scourage of America let alone men's rights. White men suffer insult and degredation because people like you make them out to be monsters unworthy of respect or compassion. They distance themselves from you but you keep chasing beind to piss on their parade. Your evil isn't going to ruin the good we're trying to do here but it does show why it's so important to have more minorities in the movement. Men who deny compassion for men give our …
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:14 PM
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Sounds more like a way to dismiss the need to help them by describing kids being childish. Blame the parents is what you do when you're about ready to quit. It's not like we have a bunch of programs to change these outcomes for black men when as a nation we have not addressed low enrollment of men period.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 05:04 PM
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We're debating the socilogical definition of racism and sexism as established by those we are debating. The inherent inferiorit or superiority doesnt account for things like in group preference or cultural social bias. I think thats why they went deeper than this dictionary definition. I'll remind you feminism is defined as: the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 04:59 PM
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That depends on if you want to use the right word or not. He can be prejudiced with a racial bias but culturally thats not enforced as a norm. If anything people would be prone to show the white guy more sympathy. Thats the bias people call 'racism' and to to challenge that culture. Now if it were a young white women people would be even more sympathetic. We call that sexism male disposability. Imagine if feminist coopted our term for singular instances of women not getting sympathy. We'd be mad…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 04:36 PM
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They are complex ideas that are dumbed down to make lazy arguments. These terms were brought into wide use to counter wide spread cultural and systemic biases against large swaths of the population and not to settle personal grievances between individuals demonstrating a independently formed bias against individuals. Prejudice against a race or sex IS racism or sexism, no matter to what degree. The degree ABSOLUTELY matters. I'm fighting to stop feminst from conflating men's heterosexual interes…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 04:19 PM
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Excluding prejudice towards white people if it's not a systemic or cultural norm makes complete sense when white majoriities coopt 'racism' to protect white suprimacy which is what I see happening. White nationalist love screaming racist! I was watching one do it on huffpo live yesterday. There is a reason that distinction was made a long time ago. It's not that their can't be racism against whites or any race, it's about the context of it. On sexism you can make a legitiate case for including b…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 04:10 PM
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SYSTEMIC OPPRESSION! We aren't talking about petty prejudices that aren't systematically oppressive. The nuance is important except to those looking for some a source of phony victim status to protect themselves.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 04:03 PM
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Oppression reversed from one race to another? Is that what we're discussing at men's rights now? That would be /r/whiterights and no it's not some crisis in need of attention since the power of feminism is rooted in white feminst exploiting social justice as a vehicle to serve their ends. The power is still firmly with whites including in men's rights. Drop the reverse racism B.S.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 04:00 PM
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Another diversion to the white rights nonsense when we're talking about feminism. The WHITE FEAR nonsesne needs to go. It was white feminst who coopted racial arguments that made sense and applied them to gender where it does not. Now we have white fear trying to coopt mens rights issues to make it about white rights. This is what white suprimacy looks like and why minorities had to make the SJW case to protect themselves from it. It only became this absurd SJW case when it left the hands of civ…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 03:56 PM
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Well that assumes you don't ban them from the country.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 03:40 PM
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Their worked up because the latter definition appllies to men but they excludes them by discounting womens power despite their being 54% of the electorate.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 03:36 PM
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And blacks prejudiced towards blacks but you dont have a systemic issue on that alone. Whites are actually favored over blacks by blacks in Africa. Thats the legacy of white supremacy among other things. Social justice types eat weak shit like this up. Its strawman city. We are making a social justice case for men dont forget that. Leave the white rights routine out of it. If you must call out white women attacking their own brothers for being white while being white themselves. It's flipping th…
/r/MensRights22/06/14 03:06 PM
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One is a system of prejudice the other can be as little as a personal bias. Dont dumb it down or youll lose the argument. This is heavy stuff we have been working through for generations you cant blow off casually. Other than that we win the systemic prejudice argument so why strawman ourselves?
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:54 PM
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I'd leave minority versus majority arguments out of this so you dont fall right into the power argument. White oppressiom by a white majority is a different animal from two equal sexes. There could be a 1% minority getting protections which you would consider white oppression. Dont strawman yourself by taking MRA arguments to race because they dont work.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:49 PM
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Perhaps but we shoud be debating the finer points rather than dumbing down to make our positions that much easier to take down. These isms are supposed to be about systemic bias and we have mountains of evidence showing men as victims of this type. We can win with their defintions making our case even stronger. The arbritary male exclusion was invalid self serving bull crap.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:37 PM
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Saying stupid stuff like that straw mans MRA arguments like radfems do to feminist.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:35 PM
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I resent your feminst style hyperbole. The nation is not a 'system of oppression against men' but it does have oppressive policies and institutions that harm men. We have to move past this ubiqtous oppression nonsense and start employing some measured language to talk about discrimination. Going down the road you're on will have us all labeled as 'oppressed' all the damn time.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 02:30 PM
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Basically it's feminist posting pictures of the condescending face the make listening to men or some comical variant. You can flip it by referencing the stats on male victims and implying that's the face you get when you bring them up.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 10:12 PM
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Why are you posting this here? You're attacking feminist for ignoring the rape of women which is ridiculous. If you wanted to attack them for voting themselves special benefits then POST THE ARTICLE ON IT! There are tons of examples and I encourage you to seek them out. Posting story about Men gang raping a women in Pakistan really does nothing for the cause nor is it something being ignored by the media that loves talking about the rape of women in South East Asia. Try finding a story on the ra…
/r/MensRights21/06/14 07:31 PM
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Explaining how men can be raped by women is a challenge especially when dealing with a non believer. The stories of these men can be hard to find and the whole involuntary erection thing seems to stretch their imagination meanwhile women's involuntary lubrication isn't an questioned.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 07:28 PM
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I posted this already and got zero traction. I'm a little surprised to be honest. I'm sorry to hear that but I'm not surprised. Not nearly people here are competent Men's Issues Advocates and on this subject neither am I. I'm not well versed on defending it because we rarely have to. It's actually popular with the public and the feminist arguments against it are [weak appeals to traditionalism, and gender stereotypes, and vague ideas about the best interest of the child, that don't fit with toda…
/r/MensRights21/06/14 05:58 PM
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This is Men's Rights and compassion for men is a what we're about. If TRP makes a virgin guy feel like crap them maybe they don't have the compassion for men we do. They don't have to change but I think his point stands. It's not for every man but we should be.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 05:50 PM
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You sound like a feminist deflecting challenges from MRA's who complain about their abusive attacks on men's self esteems. That PUA stuff isn't good. Better we teach men not to seek self esteem and approval between women's legs.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 05:49 PM
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Realistically we're the awareness people. Shifting gears would make sense at some point but right now we should be focused on engaging and educating.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 07:41 AM
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I'll make it simple. You need to make a very powerful emotional argument where men are the victim and you express a degree of empathy for them which defy's expectations. They don't talk about rape using cold statistics, they make it personal. A rebuttal to feminism from men has to be from the heart of men where they open up and crossing that barrier is where we struggle. Warren Farrell did well to discuss men's pain but he wasn't trying to make you cry. You need to bring people to tears. Then yo…
/r/MensRights21/06/14 07:10 AM
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In fact feminist were only claiming to fight for men's issue marginalize men wanting their own movement. Holding feminist to their claims makes sense rhetorically but we don't seriously think they want to honor those promises.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 06:48 AM
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Pro tip: Most feminist don't know very much about which they speak.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 06:37 AM
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MRA's tend to know more about gender issues than feminist do just like black scholars knew more about history than white historians. Correcting the racial bias required a more detailed knowledge of history which filled in the blanks. Feminist were trained to be biased and MRA's needed to know more just to make their arguments.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 06:34 AM
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You backed off one of the few subs addressing men's issues because the massive establishment of those fighting for women's issues spanning hundreds of universities and thousands of institutions addressing wasn't good enough for ya? We can't eliminate feminism nor is that a practical goal. People are fighting for reform and challenging it completely is a reasonable approach when their consensus views are extremely anti male. Thinking the MRA is threat is existential threat to feminism is like whi…
/r/MensRights21/06/14 06:31 AM
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They were somewhat right about what we do, but failed to see the importance of what we do. Being a rare voice of dissent against a ideology and movement deeply hostile to men is vital. It's even more important than discussing men's issues only so we have to take some watered down posture on addressing them that feminist approve of. We are fighting for liberation from oppressive forces imposing constraints on all male activist.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 06:20 AM
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"Ridiculous as the core of feminism is to address the injustice toward women. You can not argue that there is no injustice towards women so you can't claim a rebuttal to feminism." What are you stupid? You think this was a rebuttal to gender equality? Feminism is a ideology a with theories on gender relations past and present. That can be challenged. You for seem to think you know what the "the core of feminism" is and we ought take your word for it. We can go out and start correcting injustice …
/r/MensRights21/06/14 06:14 AM
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The report claims: "Women and men are different. Equal treatment of men and women does not result in equal outcomes." Can we all say benevolent sexism, female privilege. Until we close the compassion gap we're not going to get men the help they need.
/r/MensRights21/06/14 01:50 AM
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America has 2.2 million prisoners and 7 million under some kind of correctional control (prison, parole, probation). America has 716 people in prison per 100,000 (worlds highest) to United Kingdoms 145 per 100,000.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 10:20 PM
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The way feminism coopted social justice was something else entirely. There approach was to take on the issues of every other 'oppressed' group and blame their problems on the patriarchy. All we are doing is issue awareness advocacy for all men. It's not a conflict of interest to blame men's problems or issues on a lack of compassion for men when they are being ignored because of a lack of compassion for men. When a feminist blames male suicide on 'patriarchy', 'male entitlement' , 'toxic masculi…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 09:02 PM
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Yes I think part of the discrepancy can be cultural, but chicken and egg is right. The culture was born of the circumstances which in turn create a culture. The circumstances happened first but now the cycle is going we have to balance addressing the issue between culture and circumstances. The biggest circumstance is our drug prohibition which drove the poor into violent criminal black market enterprise when it was booze we were banning. Addressing that policy rather than poverty would be a lot…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:55 PM
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Do you realize your apathetic approach to black men's issues looks exactly like a feminist talking about white men's issues. A white feminist wouldn't be dismissive on black men's issues because they realize value of not appearing indifferent towards the less fortunate in a social justice movement demanding compassion from other. You are too blinded by your desire to advance some conservative/libertarian bias to realize that compassion seeking and giving is what we do here. We don't write men of…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:47 PM
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'To end suicide, I would start not killing yourself.' Yeah it's like that.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:36 PM
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Men's issues are for this sub. They don't stop being men's issues because those men aren't white. That is not cool and it's too often the mindset of some punk ass dudes scared to death white men will end up competing for sympathy with the 'oppressed'. Wake up, you're already in that game and acting like an ass won't get you more love. We're trying to equalize compassion for all men, white males included. The reason people excused hating on white men in the first place was the presumption they do…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:35 PM
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I 'm saying did you look at the freaking chart? It's an issue and it really doesn't matter how they got there, they are filling up the damn prisons. If these men go off the rails, it's just like when a white kid blows his brains out. It's a damn problem.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:28 PM
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If you think giving a damn about men outside the majority with issues that disproportionately affect them is a problem then what the hell am I doing defending white men from white feminist as a black man? I have enough compassion for human beings to look beyond my self interest and I imagine most people involved in this movment share that tendency. I'm not at all interested in hearing the tired 'white men get no love' bullshit if you're going to piss on any expectation we address minority issues…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:26 PM
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I think it is entirely ignorant, self-serving Let me tell you about some self serving bull shit. You have white feminst women declare 70-75% of the entire nations population a oppressed victim class so they can gang up on the 25-30% that happens to be their own brothers, fathers, husbands and sons to advance a gender (white women) focused social justice agenda. IMO " It's against any fundamental human rights ethics" to do something like that. I'm not even white and I'd think you'd be the most tr…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 08:13 PM
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First that social 'theory' was stolen from race/class/sub culture arguments and misapplied to gender. The sexes share social and political power through their shared families. Even if the sexes take on different roles in the family and society they are still sharing resources. The gender supposition would have us believe the idea that men are conspiring against women for their self interest should be taken for granted. That contradicts what we see in nature and societies. Males and females are i…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:58 PM
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I don't see it either. Using 'male privilege' claims to marginalize serious men's issues is certainly hateful but the term is not.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:45 PM
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I don't even know what that means. Sorry...
/r/MensRights20/06/14 07:44 PM
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The can be tabulated when they get out. The main place we need to worry about men being sexually abused is in civil society. That's where most of it happens and most of their perpetrators are females. http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in_america_a_new_study_reveals_that_men_are_sexually_assaulted.html
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:36 PM
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Mass incarceration is a huge issue for Blacks and Hispanics which we don't see in enough of our publications. We are quickly heading the way of feminism in ignoring minority issues and like feminism it's going to cost us credibility and support. Feminist are at least a lot better at faking it but I can't blame the MHRM, because I don't even raise these issues. The point is we all need to hit some check boxes and appear inclusive. The effort to look at issues of men outside the mainstream will in…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:33 PM
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Animal Rights Children's Rights Women's Rights States Rights Parents Rights Fathers Rights BUT MEN'S RIGHTS IS A PROBLEM? People who lack awareness of men's issues might end up laughing at the name Men's Rights but we be on that Gandhi thing "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi You're not laughing now are you and feminist are fighting us with everything they got. Standing up for half of humanity should not be a popularity contest or…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:27 PM
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Welcome to the movement. /u/GirlWritesWhat also presents a lot of evolutionary psychology in her videos. Many people seem to scoff at this, again using it as a reason to immediately reject the argument. They reject evolutionary psychology because it also undermines the feminist position. Feminist can be downright anti science when it presents a problem for them. Consciously or not, Richardson augments this scientific authority. She encourages an analysis of the social dimensions of science, but …
/r/MensRights20/06/14 03:03 AM
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I'm Sorry.
/r/MensRights20/06/14 01:01 AM
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I think your question is disingenuous. Are you telling me that there was never a vast system of racial oppression or white supremacy in American history? Are you suggesting that whites never conspired to put their interest before those of racial minorities? If not then why are you asking that stupid question? I could throw stats on what we do with our social welfare dollars and how whites come out ahead but I won't bother. I'm pretty disgusted by the people who get jealous of the poor or program…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:47 AM
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Please stop calling race 'skin color'. It's ethic background and there are plenty of people with black and Hispanic backgrounds that are white skinned. The goal is reaching people from a heritage that lends itself to poverty. You'd want to break that cycle because it's poverty that traces back far into the past that affects whole communities. I'd be happy to see the same done for poor whites but practically speaking these blacks and Hispanics are an easy to target poor urban population. It makes…
/r/MensRights20/06/14 12:37 AM
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That's why it's good to care about racial minorities. We'd have a powerful issue right here but the whole 'white male' alliance would have a hard time grasping why we'd fight for black and brown men who we could make a case for when stuff like this goes down.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 11:00 PM
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There are 4 times as many scholarships for women than men but only 6% targeting minorities. The NerdScholar Scholarship Tool has 5,864 verified private scholarships. All scholarships are through private organizations that are not university affiliated. An analysis was performed on these scholarships and below are the main results: There are 4x as many scholarships for females as there are for males. Only 6% of private scholarships have ethnic restrictions, but access to these scholarships are re…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:58 PM
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Indeed, nothing for black or Hispanic men let alone poor white men. The blacks and Hispanics are the most underrepresented group in tech regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:53 PM
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The outrage comes from the fact that promoting poor Minorities in Tech will never have the appeal women so we end up with a cycle of those with the money and privilege giving it back to those who already have it. There was a hashtag #DiversityIsNot which addressed the issue but it wasn't going to gain traction in the white feminist establishment that controls the social justice and has grown accustomed to using it as their personal piggy bank.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:51 PM
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This is what I'm talking about when it comes to feminist grabbing up resources that could be going to help those in the underclasses to code and dumping them on privileged women with access to all the resources their brothers have. Of course this can be spun on a racial angle and that's practical for addressing the left. Feminist have taken over social justice and are using it as their personal self enhancement resource. The corruption is breathtaking.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 10:49 PM
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I rather liked the ad. I'm all for women's empowerment so long as they aren't tearing men down.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:07 PM
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Yeah it's Poe's law territory for sure.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 06:04 AM
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LOL! I am dying for them to use this poster on campuses. Those kids would be laughing their ass off. Now you need a designated bystander to stop rape? Break out the chastity belts and the salt peter. Drinking and screwing is now a crime.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 06:03 AM
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We could use a conversation on male identity in this country to really get the ball rolling but so long as feminist run the gender conversation it will be nothing but off putting male bashing. A real conversation from men who actually respect men and masculinity outside of it's service to women would be truly revolutionary. I think talking about men having compassion for each other would make a big difference in cultures of violence where the next man's life and welfare is held in low regard.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:13 AM
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So you need to step in so you can shit in black people? Not good enough that they've been fucked over by America for so many generations that they've been trapped in a quagmire of poverty but you have to spit on them for being down. You're an asshole. Not racist, just an asshole.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:09 AM
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The segregated thing is what you do when you know other approaches wouldn't hit the target groups. These minority populations are segregated already and if they weren't broader approach might work for them. Let's say we had initiatives for the poor but only poor whites were being targeted with resources. That's an example where focusing on a racial group makes sense. We still want boy focused initiatives so people have to think deeply about these segregated programs.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:55 AM
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70% from Associates to PhD but who's counting...
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:51 AM
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The class issue is a big one but race put's a historical context on how that particular underclass was formed along with some social/cultural implications that may affect that demographic. For example if we were targeting Hispanics immigrants then ESL issues might be prominent. If it's poor urban black males then gun violence would be a serious issue. If it were white males then suicide prevention might be a bigger issues. The government specializes programs all the time but most of us don't not…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:51 AM
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The other thing missing from feminism is acknowledgment that labeling more than half the white majority population 'oppressed' by their identity effectively marginalizes the non white minorities. This makes social justice itself a self serving enterprise for whites rather than a vehicle for actual minorities to seek redress. Class issues are also marginalized by those who discount it's relevance so they needn't look at their own position of privilege. If upper class white women deems herself opp…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 11:20 PM
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Yes, but the wage gap is not about "white women" it's about all women, white, black, asian, etc. All women have a wage gap because they bear the children. We have 30% of mothers Staying at home versus 6% of fathers. That stuff has an impact. Women choosing certain types of jobs has an impact. Men do work more and make more then give their resources to women. This is inter sex cooperation not the mass oppression you need to fuel your bullshit narratives. So "fuck single women", that's your messag…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 10:44 PM
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I've presented to you tons of evidence that shows both non-women's choice wage gap, and explained how it's also important to teach women to make life choices less influenced by oppression. There is a 6-8% unexplained wage gap. YOU ARE NOT FUCKING OPPRESSED. This bullshit of white women making victims out of themselves in 2014 is just plain stupid. We don't here this shit from black people today, it's almost exclusively white women who stay trying to get over on white men who'll support them no m…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:59 PM
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That's why we're fighting feminism because so long as we have to fight them just to raise men's issues then we'll never have a serious and honest conversation on these issues as a society that views men in a positive light. The truth is we're up a against a massive white feminist establishment and we're going to have to call them out in particular to undermine their victim narrative. We can take them on gender but if we don't check their privilege they'll just be checking yours. Being white they…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:36 PM
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Not to mention, you're blaming "white women" when there are a great many black women who are feminists and are affected by both wage gaps. Black women tend to earn far less than other groups. The wage gap between black women and black men is the smallest of any group. Every race but Asians earns less than white women, white women are a privileged class at the same level as white men. They don't have to earn the money when white men are giving them theirs. That's dealing with class and privileged…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 10:31 AM
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I've been a member since 2008, so believe me when I say the relative absence of traditionalists on this forum is a recent development engineered by the mods. The traditionalist posture would sabotage the MRM and getting a bunch of ignorant right wingers with all their hang ups isn't much of a loss. I'd prefer the variety that can still engage the left without sounding like idiots spouting lame talking points out of Limbaugh land. I respect the right but their talking heads aren't much better tha…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 09:47 AM
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Well since Men's Rights has to fight for legitimacy general support for all rights movements doesn't address the attacks from women's rights seeking to take it away.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:48 AM
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You have a good point. I made the mistake of seeking feminist/women's approval in the MRM and that's a NO NO. We're human and can desire sex and talk about it just like women.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:47 AM
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It's a 90% white party, and that demographic reality will drive what approach they use to secure votes. The exceptions have to pander to that reality which usually means talking trash about minorities to get in good with the white base and they all have done that.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:44 AM
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You're right the MRM should tackle sex issues and has. I shouldn't lock myself into the cycle of seeking feminist approval.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:43 AM
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"Ok, so, wanna know what rape culture is? It's me feeling uneasy and put off walking on my own street in the middle of the day. Their uneasy feelings are not rooted in culture so much as their inability to deal with sexual advances from strangers. That's not a culture of rape, it's heterosexuality. No, these weren't physically aggressive, but their actions put me off, and on alert, as if me being outside is somehow unsafe or a way of saying, "Look at me!" WhiteGirlOppression. Anything that annoy…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:44 PM
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The policy was indifferent to the negative impact on boys and that apathy was intentional.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:31 PM
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Compassion for men and boys is always a men's rights issue. Boys tend to play with pretend guns more than girls, but that doesn't mean that the policy was designed to target them. Yes it does. Trust if this was a proclivity of girls we wouldn't see policies like this. You need to wake up to the deeply ingrained gender bias against males in our cultures. Most thefts are committed by men, but that doesn't mean anti-theft laws are designed to catch men. This isn't criminal behavior but thanks for t…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:29 PM
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Men's Rights Activist are supposed to be the people challenging these policies. Where is our platform? Where are the list of recommendations with research? I think we can put something together and spread it far and wide.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:26 PM
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So, yeah - I tend to agree with your thesis here. There does seem, for some boys, to be a natural proclivity for such play. The analytical rabbit hole could go pretty deep into gender role ideas, grooming boys to be good solders later in life, and a bunch of other implications. This isn't gender role conditioning it's nature. We should be challenging those who treat boys innocent war games as a threat. Evolutionary psychology is something we can look to for guidance and naturally feminist hate i…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:25 PM
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This isn't about gun control, it's about boy control.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:23 PM
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Boys are dealing with some real gender oppression in our schools today and that's what we should be calling it. The feminist anti male hostility is hitting the most vulnerable and it's men and women who won't stand up to it that are really letting the down.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 11:22 PM
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Thanks.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 07:04 PM
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White males are routinely, openly told their views and concerns don't matter, because he is white and male. MAINLY BY OTHER WHITE PEOPLE! Whites don't lack political or social power. The greatest source of white male marginalization is white women attacking them to expand their own power. The ones who push racial equality are mostly white liberals. The other populations lack the power or numbers to independently run influential agendas without substantial white support. That's reality. Whites do…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 06:30 PM
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You need to learn how to play the game. I am trying to make the case for white women's parity to white men to fend off attacks by white women on white men. You seem busy trying to defend whites which is foolishness. Minorities aren't threatening whites nor are they using social justice to marginalize them. That's what white feminist women have been doing. Get your priorities straight. I have no problem taking the stance I do because I know at he end of the day black people aren't interested in b…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 06:17 PM
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"feel empathy for male suffering..... And frankly we aren't morally justified in trying to make them care." Why is that? Anyways I disagree. I think we can demand equal compassion and human beings which should be a option open to all people. We are however morally justified in demanding that a government treat all of its citizens equally regardless of sex. And while popular opinion would be nice to have on our side it isn't strictly necessary in order to force legislative change. I agree with th…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 05:26 PM
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Really? I'd think you can expand on that theory because I see connections all over the place.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 05:14 PM
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We're against the idea of the friendzone as this big 'Boohooo woe is me I don't get to fuck my friend now I never want to talk to her again :(((((' because it's fucking stupid. People can do what the hell they want. They don't need external approval for these very personal choices. If you're in love with a friend and don't want to be friends when they reject you then that's your business. People are not that simple. We can't all fit in some feminist defined 'cool' box that revolves around how ef…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 05:11 PM
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You know these behaviors aren't necessarily gender specific. If we want to discourage slacking off I'd much prefer a non sexist approach. Women get spoiled by men trying to please and they can get over when men are available to be exploited but that's more of a challenge when it's mostly women around them. I don't doubt you had these problems with women but if we were to pursue the humanistic approach of dealing with human issues instead of gender issues we'd avoid the pitfalls of feminism which…
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:54 PM
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I had no plans for male subjugation. No you only hoped they would be better controlled to serve your ends. Their dissent would be moderated or eliminated to women voicing contempt for them in 'safe spaces' who'd then leave those spaces to share their contempt for men in the wider society. These gender wars have been on for a long time and the patterns are clear. Women's safe spaces would be secure if they weren't a launch point society wide attacks on men, masculinity, male identity, and abused …
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:47 PM
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Yes I do, and sorry that that I'm primed for rebuttal. That's usually what I'm doing.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:18 PM
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Feminist don't need help to be discredited. We'd be better off writing letters to or emails to change sites with misleading statistics about men than wasting time on such nonsense.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 04:16 PM
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I don't think we can police women's individual behaviors from a men's movement. If people want to check women behaving badly then more power to them but we can't push them down that road without indulging in the same sort of gender control narratives feminist use on men. Stick to the policy driven issues.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:34 PM
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Do you know nothing else about men's issues?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:32 PM
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Father's Rights , Awareness for Male victims of sexual and domestic violence, Mass Incarceration (America)
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:31 PM
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For a start, the MRM is against the concept of the friendzone. Because...it's stupid. What? We aren't against the friend zone nor should that have ever been a social justice/gender equality issue. This whole fight came from immature young women who didn't want to deal with male feelings who felt entitled to shame any man who made them feel the least bit guilty including a friend that became romantically attached. if you were only interested in them because you wanted to get with them, you're not…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:29 PM
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The title has nothing to do with the post and this self absorbed women asserting that men caring for themselves and other men has put a damper on her plans for male subjugation. She won't be happy unless men are subservient doting slaves pandering to her every whim. Her approval is supposed to be the reward in itself because she really is that entitled. Other than that we have yet another damsel in distress playing up her vulnerability to gain control over men who she expects to care about her e…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 07:16 PM
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Women were never the problem. It was women being taught that men see them as the enemy when most men have no problem making sacrifices for women. The thing is, men are entitled to some expectation of reciprocity and being hated on mass by a large gender focused movement isn't okay.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 06:33 PM
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You can't get much support from people conditioned to be indifferent toward male suffering. We have to deal with that aspect just like other groups had to demand empathy to get their needs met.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 06:29 PM
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This is one of the things that perturbs me about MRAs. Going far beyond laws and discrimination and into socializing the whole world. MRAs are not socializing the world beyond demanding equal compassion for men and boys with all that entails. The rest was that man's opinion and we are allowed to have them.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 06:28 PM
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I see myself as a gender abolitionist in the sense that I think forced gender roles hurt girls and boys. Gender roles themselves are often just norms rather than rigid roles genders are forced into. Forcing a end to gender identity would require oppression to implement. This is not something people want to do and you're trying to force it on them because some small minority might prefer it. I'd much rather we respect peoples freedom. If you don't want to abide by a gender role you're free to dev…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 06:24 PM
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The "I'm scared" routine is sickening when feminist do it and just as bad when it's a man. Are you going to tell us about 10% of M&M's being poison next? Get serious, we have been condemning those who subject men to the 'fear' treatment and now you're doing it because 'radfems are scary'. Well so are rapist. Do you get the point?
/r/MensRights16/06/14 05:55 PM
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Society doesn't care about men. White men are only singled out for certain kinds of attacks because white feminist use shaming as a path to greater power over their own men. We also see other races of men targeted usually by their own women.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:20 AM
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You know white men and women are in the same group. Just sayin... the french or English aren't a all male countries.
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:17 AM
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The whole thing is rather sad and the ultimate blame lays at the feet of identity politics and cutural marxism. You're seriously oversimplifying and I don't think you know what you're talking about. Identity politics are real because various groups had to fight for their rights. Men are one of those groups because as feminist fight for greater control over men, men must put forth a defense against the loss of freedom and rights. Black men and women have been demonized regularly in western societ…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:16 AM
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There is a political power that is anti-white. Exactly how much political power is that in a white majority country? These feminist aren't stupid. They go after whiteness so they can shut down dissent among white men against their gender agenda and it works like a charm. Racial minorities have a pro minority agenda not a anti white one. They want greater influence and representation for their communities not just their gender or race. This usually overlaps with a greater focus on the issues of p…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 04:07 AM
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White feminist are the ones behind the white male bashing because men under that kind of attack are far easier for them to control. For them it's been pretty damn effective a strategy and all the backlash tends to fall on racial minorities instead of the white women pushing it. I'd say that the tactic is abusive towards minorities for that reason who aren't lashing out at whites with anywhere near the frequency of white liberals attacking white men. Now notice I said 'whites' for minorities beca…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:58 AM
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The entitlement in these women that drives them to use misandry to stamp out compassion for men is astounding.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 09:30 PM
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I think the right is defined in more exclusive terms these days as a Conservative white christian party. When we aren't appealing to that demographic we end up under the left's big tent by default even if we're not accepted their either.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:47 PM
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The egalitarians need Men's Rights to make men's issues apart of the discussion the way feminist did with women's issues. These various identity groups need specialist advocates who can identify overlooked problems affecting their specific groups. The egalitarians will at least then be informed about what they ought to be fighting for in order to make the world fairer for all.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:41 PM
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Both have plenty of power, but I find the down votes on your comment excessive. The left does wield far greater power in social justice and controls the narrative on social oppression. The right's spin on that is closer to 'white conservative christian oppression' which is more about expecting our tolerance toward their intolerant ideas toward other groups. Not surprisingly Men's Rights is being framed this way because a right wing 'rights' straw man is far easier to take down.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:37 PM
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"The price of sex"? Do you know how much time people have to spend convincing others the MRM has nothing to do with being sexually frustrated men? Just saying...
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:29 PM
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That's funny and you have a point. The right is not consumed with being angry at men in general as a way of coercing them into sacrificing on behalf of women/children but it will shame those who fail to do so.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:27 PM
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I'm a liberal but I attack the left as a liberal for it's deficiencies. This for me isn't about being a anti left partition because I'm not. Support on the right isn't forth coming and their politics isn't too friendly to the brand of identity politics isn't suited towards defending anyone other than conservative christian people. Critiquing both for their short comings when it comes to helping men and boys seems inevitable.
/r/MensRights14/06/14 04:24 PM
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You might be right, we could be white knight sexist who pander to women.../s
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:00 AM
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Viewed from another perspective, women are using the fact that that men care about them to talk to men they care about about issues important to them. It's not all some twisted mind control game. Men and women can actually have relationships you know. The relationship is abusive and one sided. One berates the other and says awful things about them and demands they act to fix them even if the personally were not the cause. These tactics are a mind games we commonly see in abusive relationships. O…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:59 AM
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Regarding gender roles: No, it isn't. That's you and other liberal MRA's, not the MRM stance as a whole. We are anti traditionalist hence not promoting gender roles. We can't have a MRM going up against feminist and be promoting rigid gender roles. That would actually make us the reactionaries they accuse us to be. I don't think you appreciate how important that liberal stance is. Regarding wage gap: Are you sure you are an MRA? Because not a single MRM issue appears here, it's all feminist talk…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:28 AM
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Weird I thought I said something very similar but I agree. We'll try to keep our personal out our political.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:00 AM
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i am saying that it is stupid to compare who has the bigger struggle when we need to be working for equality for everyone. It would be stupid not to do this and I find those saying this are quite often white women who'd rather not see their general complaints about life sidelined while we focus on serious issues affecting others that could be addressed or need more attention. The 'all oppression is equal' argument is one that privileged people would make since it advantages them. This is an argu…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:58 AM
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again, not a feminist...a realist. legal disadvantages occur for many different types of people, including minorities, homosexuals, and women. There isn't a powerful lobby addressing those affecting men so that's where we are likely to see a lot of unresolved issues that are not getting attention. We can barely keep up with all the men's legal issues that cross our plate and none are getting mainstream attention. i mean to say that you cant know fully and truly know someone elses struggle until …
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:50 AM
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im literally just saying that all people face discriminations and its really obnoxious to assume otherwise. Then w but you just assumed i was a raging feminist SIMPLY because im a woman. No I assumed it because you fed us their one sided narrative that and put forth some false narrative of some massive conspiracy of men being out to get women along with negative generalizations about our gender. i think the bigger issue here is why is everyone fighting each other when we should be more focused o…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 04:39 AM
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More entitlement. You don't care for us but we must care for you. We're narrow minded if we don't care about you, but your indifference to our needs or issues is something we should just accept. please familiarize yourself with the womens law project, and a variety of similar groups. and yeah, i can say you dont know what its like. cause unless you suddenly grow female genatalia, you dont know what its like. Your such a dumbass because you act like you're the only one who got a vagina when they …
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:48 AM
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The equal rights act would probably do more for men than women so yes it's a serious question and you don't seem to have any serious answers. You don't default to the bull crap feminist have been peddling over the years that we disprove everyday with actual evidence rather than the conjecture and group think you're applying.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:09 AM
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but thefact of the matter is is that its exponentially more common for a womens allegation of rape to be denied because she was wearing a revealing outfit If that's a fact then name ONE SINGLE INSTANCE where this happened. The rest of your assumptions are just that. Weak cases happen and effectively whining that it's unfair that we don't simply take everyone's word for it when the make an accusation is not proof of oppression. The real oppression of the accused would take place if we scrapped du…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:08 AM
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That's irrelevant, the problem is the tactic being used is nothing more than bigotry.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 10:05 PM
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Black men have to live with the reality that their demographic is 7% of the population and commit around 40% of all murders. What these feminist are doing is the very sort of bigotry blacks fought to stamp out during the civil rights movement. Their giving cover for white supremacist who use the exact same tactics against minorities.
/r/MensRights12/06/14 09:50 PM
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You sounds like you are around a lot of white liberals who are completely full of themselves. You won't find tat problem in minority communities because they aren't hostile to caring about men, they get it.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:21 PM
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Feminist are controlling men through mind games. The play on men's desire to gain approval from women who they naturally like and wish to impress. This isn't sexism, it's just reality. I can't count how many times feminist employed the approval of women, their sex, or their rejection as a tool to coerce my agreement in conversation. It's going on constantly. Even attacks on MRA's presuppose they are lonely men who lack women. And that women are only crying children, as if women aren't allowed to…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:20 PM
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I'll go through your points but keep in mind we don't do any of this for the racial wage gap. It's ignored because white women dominate the dialogue and their issues come first. Feminism has marginalized the Civil Rights movement and replaced it with a self serving narrative that makes white women the greatest victim because they have vastly more power to control the narrative. No, but there's a ton of scientific evidence of discrimination: Now I'm not one for dismissing things due to the sex of…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 11:06 PM
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I disagree. I think his words will have resonance, especially in giving voice to the 'vindictive' tendencies of feminist. People think they are the man haters, remember that.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:50 PM
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The MRA stance is against rigid gender roles just like feminists but we don't enforce dissolution of existing roles by way of social engineering. Freedom of choice is the standard. That serves as the backbone of our wage gap positions, gap in representation in STEM, Tech, Politics and so forth. We have to address these things to deal with the issues because they are interrelated. We're challenging some widely accepted approaches to gender equality that are ideological. A non ideological approach…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:49 PM
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Stop to consider for a moment that most of the so-called misogyny on Red Pill is actually a very realistic impression of attitudes women bear towards men I don't doubt that but it's no not about gender equality. The men need to vent and talk truth to one another about their experiences. The problem is feminism combines it's venting generalization about the opposites sex with actual recommendations for public policy which leads to sexist policies. It's mainstreamed that venting into a form of pri…
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:42 PM
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I understand men need a place to vent, a safe space of sorts. That's what it is IMO but I wouldn't call it a equality conversation anymore than feminist getting together to talk smack about men.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:37 PM
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It wasn't the quotes that were the problem but the feminists trying to destroy the movement to protect their own status and position in the establishment. Feminist say misandric things all the time, but there aren't a bunch of men in the media holding their feet to the fire for it.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:36 PM
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Shall I say go back to /r/theredpill ? You are being a gender bashing asshole. We don't do the gender hate thing or the negative sexist generalizations either. That's what we're fighting against HERE.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:33 PM
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You're being such a hater.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 09:32 PM
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Spineless men got us into this mess and their not the sort who'll get us out. I'll take 10 Elams over another swiveling coward offering appeasement to those who'd associate you with a mass murderer just to shut down discussion of men's issues.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 04:42 AM
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He's a anti feminist, I don't think he'd like our stance on gender roles.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:22 PM
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He's a anti feminist, being a MRA is more than that.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:21 PM
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I don't think we need to be so picky. You act like there are a huge number of people willing to criticize feminism. He's not some vile misogynistic man; he's the Pope.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 11:11 PM
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Well that went over like a ton of bricks which is fine. I saw this a while ago and only posted out of spite toward the video's supporters. I thought ignoring it was the right thing to do and I guess I should have stuck with that mindset.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 01:51 PM
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The tyranny of feminism relies on unthinking popular support. The ideology itself is heavily dependent on sexism so when they act to insure that kind of dogmatic support for sexist ideas it becomes a matter of gender oppression. For men it's a anchor into a traditional role where they aren't entitled to compassion and their primary duty is to satisfy the needs of women. Men's Rights is stuck trying to break both men and women out of this pattern but I think most people outside this wonky gender …
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:34 AM
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Sorry I was just riled up by the feminist trolls you were responding to. I'll try to be less of an asshole. Don't worry about being banned, I don't even know how you get banned to be honest.
/r/MensRights10/06/14 03:13 AM
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How much does that kid freaking eat?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:04 PM
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From Today site: "73 percent of dads say “a real man knows how to express emotional support to his children.” 33 percent of dads struggle to balance work and family life, compared to 26 percent of moms 51 percent of dads say it’s possible to “have it all,” compared with 54 percent of moms. 21 percent of dads say they often feel criticized for not doing childcare tasks the way their wife does 31 percent of stay at home Dads say “my children would respect me more if I worked outside the home”; 19 …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:53 PM
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I hope you know that's not how you use the statistics. Not being under correctional supervision doesn't mean you're not violent. Being under correctional supervision does not mean you are violent. You'll have to dig deeper to make sense of this stuff.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 10:44 PM
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It was a great rebuttal and sadly I know nothing of about those courts. I read about it at AVFM a long time ago but it has't come up debating feminists not that I made an issue out of ex-parte courts.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:58 PM
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You tried and I really respect you for doing that. That's doing a lot more than most and hopefully we'll eventually come up with simple compelling arguments that help men like you make your case without an accompanying list of citations. I learned something the feminist mentality that transposes to groups of women in a superior power position taking up a us versus them approach to dealing with men. What they say about you is mostly them projecting. Feminist talk of men trying to control women wh…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:47 PM
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I'm so sick the smug white SJW shit and no you don't have to be white to be on smug white SJW shit, you just have to be self absorbed enough to think moral superiority can be found in using social justice as a tool of oppression against any who does not submit to your dogmatic world view. Minorities know intrinsically they are utterly dependent on good will they can't force through bullying and abuse which they are far more likely to be targets of. An appeal to the conscious of the dominant grou…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:31 PM
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I mentioned MEN treating MEN like shit and you came up with a way to make that a problem caused by feminists. More like a preexisting problem exploited by feminist. We already had a culture where men were predisposed towards being more sympathetic to female victims. Feminism took that and made it mandatory by being hostile towards any focus on men. I read a piece by Britanny Cooper on Salon where she complained about Obama's "My Brother's Keeper Initiative" because she wanted black girls to get …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:07 PM
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I suggest you read my reply to darth_hotdog's post. I went into great detail.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:28 PM
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Men have been treating men like shit for millenia Your absolutely right, but that didn't become apart of social justice until feminism decided men were officially unworthy of equal compassion because they're 'privileged' people who oppress women. Before we could advocate for poor men and women equally but now if you demand focus on homeless men (they are most of them) then you're a misogynist trying to take resources from oppressed women. Before we focused on violence against people, but now it …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 03:17 PM
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I see the fight ending with egalitarians rising after feminist gender theories lose their credibility like so many other junk science ideas. There will still be advocates for gender issues but we won't tolerate them bashing the opposite sex to make their case.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:58 PM
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It's detrimental to your cause, it creates an "us VS them" mentality which makes people defensive. On ideological terms it is us versus them. They don't want to show men equal compassion and we do. That's not reconciled by changing labels. They actively campaign against caring about men's feelings while demanding ever more focus on women's. We're not compromising nor should we be expected to. The only acceptable is real equality without the B.S.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:53 PM
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The haters are feminists and people who fear them. Let's not pretend this is about some legitimate grievance. If you advocate for men and boys you are a problem for taking attention away from girls. The only ones allowed to advocate for men and boys must first accept 'male privilege' under feminist tyranny. We refuse to be subjugated so there is a conflict between the oppressed and the far more powerful feminist oppressor.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:51 PM
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People hate because trying to make some feminist white women smile is more important than the welfare of men and boys. I say white because WoC know in white majority countries know calling their men 'privileged' isn't going to go over so well. I challenge you to find the feminist club at a HBCU (historically black college university). Men don't deserve to be subjugated by entitled women playing damsel games to get attention they don't deserve.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:47 PM
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They were anarchist which is not the same as advocating for the real gender issues facing half of humanity which are being actively suppressed as valid by a dominant established ideology that deems them unworthy of equal compassion because they've decided that entire sex has gotten enough. Yes, this is one of those things you get outraged about.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:40 PM
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Actually, the discussion of how the "patriarchy" hurts men is quite common, for those unaware, the feminist definition of "patriarchy" simply refers to old-fashioned gender stereotypes. That's the same B.S lip service white feminist give black men & women while ignoring their issues but nonetheless insisting all black men & women all be feminist because they're 'intersectional'. IMO only intersection I see is the one where all social justice revolves around some white feminist agenda to control …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:36 PM
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You need to educate yourself. Men are not 10% of rape victims (much closer to half) and you clearly haven't read the FAQ. Maybe we need a rule. Don't attempt to debate feminist until you read the FAQ because then others have to clean up the mess of ignorance you leave behind. Here is your reading list and it's the same for the feminist. http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/papering-over-inconvenient-crime/ http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/04/male_rape_in…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:28 PM
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Intoxicated Rape: If a person drinks too much and passes out and someone else proceeds to have sex with that person, a rape has occurred…that is, if the person who passed out was female. You F***ing idiot. Can you even read? Did you not notice this is a setup to show a double standard? "You cannot have sex with someone who is passed out." No shit sherlock but you missed this part: "that is, if the person who passed out was female." Opposition like you is worthless. Make a real effort and you mig…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 02:21 PM
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Men's problems will only be solved by a group that fights to undo those old-fashioned stereotypes about men working themselves to death and having no emotional outlets That nails it? Are so drunk on group think that you think B.S like that resonates? You come to Men's Rights to tell them they don't care about men's feelings? Are you freaking serious? You have no idea what we're about but you are in at /r/mensrights. You've read nothing, learned nothing, and are utterly useless even as a opponent…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:59 PM
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The problems feminists complain about that affect women are also almost all valid. Women ARE paid less for the same work, women are discriminated against in hiring and education, women are severly underepresented in government, business management, and entertainment media. Women are victims of rape, violence, extremely common harassment, and sexist jokes, and women live in a society that considers them emotional caregivers, and nothing more. Let me explain to you how those issues are B.S or gend…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:50 PM
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Anti feminist ranting is why you know what Men's Rights is fool. We're taking on the very people who convinced the mainstream men's issues don't matter. That's real freaking important and if just talking men's issues was what you wanted to do then go right over to a feminist forum and raise them. Let's see how that works out for you.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:25 PM
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It is innately sexist but not like feminism. We are advocating for men and boys not against women and girls as feminist have done. The only thing sexist about the MRM is it doesn't advocate for both sexes equally. This of course is necessary in a culture that doesn't even see the point in advocating for men and boys.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:23 PM
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I wish it were that simple. Many are ignorant, people incapable of thinking for themselves, cowards who support the issue but not those fighting for them, elitist who set arbitrarily high standards for advocacy work without consideration for resources and support required to make that happen, and a host of other characters who are waiting for us to prove men's issues ought be taken seriously.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:21 PM
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Fighting the perspective which created the injustice is just as important as fighting the injustice itself. I you haven't notices we're in a serious fight with feminism for legitimacy and survival. I'd far rather go back to the good old days of posting men's issues and discussing them but the most sensible thing we can do now is take on our ideological opponents who can care less about the issues which I'm sure will rise in priority when things cool down.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:18 PM
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What is this shit?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:14 PM
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The messed up thing is sexual violence other than rape is a broad category that goes way beyond forced sex. Lumping forced sex in there was inexcusable and without a doubt ideologically motivated as is the rape definition itself not meaning 'forced sex'. That part of the study covers gay, bi, and hetero men. Some of the gay and bi numbers were too small to sample so we're still better off looking at studies targeting that specific group for details. What is apparent is bisexual men and women are…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 01:02 PM
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Well I say sexually victimized because that's what was being studied. If some lady grabbed another ladies boob she'd be counted as a victim. Of course women are raped but to count them all they'd have to use 'forced to penetrate' for when women are forced to give oral sex to another. Here is a good link discussing some real experiences women have had: http://www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/Do-Women-Rape-Women-In-Prison-V/2137281
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:56 PM
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I have never seen AVfM do the same. Have you? AVFM was going to war with feminist and providing ammunition and inspiration to the troops was more important than soft spoken pleas for compassion. That book has been around for a long time and we can see the returns it delivered were nothing compared to AVFM's firebrand rhetoric. If reality or statistics alone did the trick we wouldn't need a a MRM.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:53 PM
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The dark alley myth is running strong in feminist circles just look at #YesAllWomen and implying that their irrational fear of rape anywhere, anytime is proof of 'male privilege'.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:50 PM
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Clinton is one of the biggest example of feminist hypocrisy but nothing in my mind trumps the massive cover up of male victims of sexual and domestic violence that persists to this day.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:48 PM
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They have no choice but to be anti feminist because feminist are anti male at their core. They've created and entire dialectic on how to blame men for all that's wrong in the world. That's not okay and it's not the path to equality. Feminism is little more than institutionalized misandry at this point.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:39 PM
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I read all those articles as they emerged and all along it was expected to be quote mined. I don't think they thought progress would come this fast and they were buttoned down for the long haul. Biting satire and commentary fueled the site and that was all the MRM really had then. It's who the media went to for explanations of what we're doing because they had the page hits. Maybe we should call it the Jezebel or Feministing paradox. Being edgy attracts attention but it also makes you look like …
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:35 PM
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AVFM goes after feminism not women. That's the key difference. We need a attack dog focused on 'deconstructing' a movement who's anti male rhetoric has molded the culture over generations. Keep in mind what feminist claim to be doing is 'deconstructing' the patriarchy which they use to justify doing all sorts of crazy things like 'slut walks' and promoting 'rape culture'. We aren't going there. The two movements balance each other and from there egalitarians can claim the moral high ground. That…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:15 PM
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I was talking about the way feminist attack society when they are really going after men who in their eyes made it that way. I should have made that more clear.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:10 PM
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I am thinking about things from a outsider perspective. I struggle to explain men's rights to people because it's so freaking complicated. Media training teaches you how to chop it up into thought sized bites so people can get you and empathize with your cause without exhaustive study of the issues. You can get people to just take your word for it but the trick is demonstrating you know things they don't first and then using that credibility to give weight to your other assertions. Those cable t…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:07 PM
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What did we say to Steve Harvey when he did...Nuthin.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:56 AM
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"Yet I am responsible, and it seems the world agrees with her. " You are being exploited and abused and the abusers don't regard your feelings as worthy of consideration because we have too many silent men sitting on the sidelines trying to 'suck it up' instead of demanding justice for men & boys. Men's Rights shouldn't be a small niche movement of a few brave people willing to take on the feminist establishment. The vast number of men who've been victimized by the system and are still being exp…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:52 AM
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Why not become an activist and fight for justice? Isn't that what we do?
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:38 AM
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Validation of our worth from those around from those around us is essential to our survival. As a baby if we were not considered worth feeding we'd starve. Because this man's society doesn't deem him worth protecting he's used and abused by it. If men deny these things it leaves all men in the same vulnerable position they have in. They ought embrace their anger demand better of the society they live in. The closed mouth doesn't get fed, or in this case protected from exploitation by the outspok…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 11:37 AM
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When are we going to say "I have weakness in me, but I'm still a man god damn it! And I deserve to be treated like one!" You are supposed to say I have weakness but I'm still a human being. You want to pivot back to a gender neutral stance because asking to be 'treated like a man' means not allowing you to have weakness in the culture. We're asking for people to see past our gender and focus on our common humanity.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 05:06 AM
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Are fight is with feminism. The alternative is society and by that extension women. Which would you choose? I choose feminism because we've had enough gender bashing for 10 generations and we can deal with society by addressing feminism's distorted picture of it.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:50 AM
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The problem is we're up against a vast conspiracy. Let's not pretend that's not what we're seeing here. You don't cover up sexual and DV victimization on half of humanity for decades without one.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:49 AM
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I agree, I've always been behind them. People afraid of controversy aren't taking recognizing what we're up against. If petty stuff can bring us down we don't stand a chance. We have to fight like our rights depend on it and they do. Pandering to those who wish to destroy the movement isn't a practical option.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:48 AM
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Well it wasn't a total disaster. Were the female MRA's busy or something? These guys need some serious media training. I guess everyone needs practice to get good but some are naturals. Dean is not a natural. He tried to info dump but that stuff flies over peoples heads. If not for that sympathetic male host he would have been finished.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:44 AM
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Start with compassion for men and boys and work your way backwards. We are right on the issues needing attention and feminism is wrong for having ignored them. That's the start point.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:32 AM
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Like, it could be taken to be an explanation of why PUA-style approaches scare the shit out of some women, or it could be taken as saying that men should be treated as guilty until proven innocent. Or it could be that you only know how to shift blame on to men when things go wrong. I plan to post in /r/feminism about working with MRA for common goals (there's a lot more in common between the reasonable people in those groups than the radicals would have you believe), but I have some replies to s…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:29 AM
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You mean bitter and twisted like feminist? These people are perfectly entitled to their anger and being spoken down to by the ones attempting to oppress them isn't going to lesson that. You've run you're anti male compassion pogroms one time too many and we're not backing down. We care about men, we think they deserve kindness and respect so you're going to have to accept a environment where the backlash against your sexist rhetoric is going to become increasingly strong. We don't need you to ru…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:27 AM
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You've redefined the issues as getting feminist approval instead of appealing to people or raising awareness about important issues. That's the arrogant crap we're sick of from you establishment people who think you own the conversation on gender. We don't like how you act and we think many of your ideas suck. That's reality along with the fact you can't keep doing what you've been doing and treat men fairly at the same time. If you go around trying to purge your enemies like some ruthless dicta…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 04:22 AM
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We have entire publications dedicated to male bashing on a regular basis. This isn't anecdotal, its you pretending the sky isn't blue because you saw it at sunset and it happened to be orange at the time.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:28 AM
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Feminism as a institution functions like a monolith with a group of mainstream theories and perspectives that serve as a rational for activist acting independently and within groups. That perspective is overwhelming male negative. It will attack anyone who advances a male positive perspective and call it misogyny. It will attack anyone who attacks feminism for it's male bashing & misandry and call it misogyny. There is no compromising on the hatred of men within it. Your movement is deeply hatef…
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:26 AM
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Male voices in feminism are not equal thus it can't manage equality for both sexes. It's that simple. Since the perspective is male negative and female positive it's also inherently sexist. These are not racial politics, they are gender politics in a democracy with slightly more women than men. Your movement won't tolerate male advocacy unless it exist to point out the flaws in men. That's not a equality movement.
/r/MensRights09/06/14 12:16 AM
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RAINN He's not Hiding in the Bushes More than 50% of all rape/sexual assault incidents were reported by victims to have occured within 1 mile of their home or at their home.2 4 in 10 take place at the victim's home. 2 in 10 take place at the home of a friend, neighbor, or relative. 1 in 12 take place in a parking garage. Since we're talking about a certain age group these general numbers aren't great plus their kind of old.(1997) The other problem is their reported rapes which tend to lean more …
/r/MensRights08/06/14 07:33 PM
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Context matters more than the outfit. Notice the 'dark alley' part? Some things you don't do in the dark alley but you an do them elsewhere like a bank. Don't where the super sexy outfit to the sleaze ball party and expect the sleaze balls to keep their hands to themselves. They might be fun to hang with because they aren't slaves to social conventions but the price for that freedom is a degree of unpredictability. So no I would not blame the dress.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 07:18 PM
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Well a good MRA knows his statistics better than feminists since that's how we go about correcting peoples misconceptions about these subjects. Women are rarely raped by strangers (10-15%) and your son is at comparable risk to your daughter for some serious sexual victimization(www.1in6.org). The milder forms will probably threaten her more not only because they are more frequent but how the sexes are taught to respond to them. He's taught to brush off being groped by the opposite sex while we'd…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 07:09 PM
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What you mean is you can't keep it up like a feminist. They've been running on rage against half of humanity for a half century. I think we can be sufficiently enraged at the injustice caused by their hateful attitudes to hold a little fire in our belly. Even if all you wanted was love and peace (as many do) you have cause to be angry at those who insist on conflict without end as a means of maintaining power. The warlords will be the last to lay down their arms. Without them they are nothing.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 06:58 PM
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I'm not here to be the voice against moderation but your perspective is so punk they'd roll over you like a dead cat. Warren Farrell has been who here the whole damn time and they did him dirty. They also maligned the crap out of Erin Prizzey despite opening the first women's domestic violence shelter in the WORLD. These ladies ain't playing dude. I don't think you know what a fight is but you are in one. There is no middle ground they an accept and preserve their power or influence. It's us or …
/r/MensRights08/06/14 06:53 PM
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If we're still asking these women's activist for permission to speak our mind we've already lost. We must be ruled by our own moral compass and not by the corrupt bastards who spent decades hiding male victims to protect a false narrative. Even if they do scheme to hold on to public sympathies we who are informed are completely justified in being damn angry about it. This is a moral fight at the end of the day and the cute innocent looking one might have an advantage in the public eye but us str…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 06:36 PM
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/r/MensRights08/06/14 06:13 PM
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I guess the right phrasing would be 'sexually victimized' but yes.
/r/MensRights08/06/14 06:10 PM
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A total of 6,964 men and 564 women participated in a survey administered using audio-CASI. Weighted estimates of prevalence were constructed by gender and facility size. Rates of sexual victimization varied significantly by gender, age, perpetrator, question wording, and facility. Rates of inmate-on-inmate sexual victimization in the previous 6 months were highest for female inmates (212 per 1,000), more than four times higher than male rates (43 per 1,000). Abusive sexual conduct was more likel…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 02:06 PM
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I found this section of the CDC NISVS 2010 I hadn't seen before in the references that breaks victimization down by sexual orientation. http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf Sex of Perpetrators among Male Victims More than three-quarters of gay men (78.6%) and about two-thirds of bisexual men (65.8%) who experienced sexual violence other than rape identified male perpetrators (data not shown). However, of heterosexual men who reported sexual violence other than rape, 28.…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 01:59 PM
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I would not burden all men with having to walk around like their scared of the world just so they can get compassion. We need to demand better of people and society in terms of how we allocate our sympathy. The whole construct privileges a certain type of person who exploit projected vulnerability as a source of power over others. If there were such a thing as 'toxic femininity' it would include that but I'm against employing such attacks on gender. I'd rather call it a toxic personality as seen…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 01:29 PM
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"I've had sex with guys just because they were being a pain and it was just less hassle than saying no constantly. I don't consider that rape." As have I with women, we can do something to sexually please a partner even if we don't want really want to. That's why I don't buy this 'enthusiastic' consent thing. I've reluctantly consented but chose to do so. That would not make her a rapist. I've said no and had the women continue to ask. We need to stop tolerating this sexist framing being used to…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 01:10 PM
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I appreciate your innocence but not your understanding of how feminism has maintained it's strangle hold on gender issues over the years. Male victimization especially by women has always been a threat to their narrative and they intentionally down play statistics revealing these things to protect the special victim status they covet. Feminist can't tolerate Men's Rights being a thing because it will demolish the narrative they've used for decades to funnel resources to women focused groups. The…
/r/MensRights08/06/14 12:35 PM
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We talk about male vulnerablity. There is a video you need to watch by the brilliant Allison Tienmen that covers the subject well and why we need to do what you are suggesting. Trigger warning: Chuck full of gender generalizations ha ha... Link
/r/MensRights08/06/14 01:33 AM
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It was a crap argument framed as a political hit piece on the opposing party. He could have done better to tie the left to straw feminist antics if that were his goal. For a rape hysteria argument you must tread softly and wield some heavy evidence. He got one part right but not the other.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 10:35 PM
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George Will took the wrong approach for the mainstream. This kind of sloppy work like that sets us back by straw manning the hell out of once solid arguments. He shouldn't combine talk of 'rape' and 'micro-aggressions' for starters. One is clearly not a micro-aggression. Second he should have focused on feminist rather than progressives but that would be asking too much courage from an establishment lap dog. That rapes story he quoted is one I read in full. The girl wasn't even sure it was rape …
/r/MensRights07/06/14 10:34 PM
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What?? You aren't immediately concerned with the plight of so-called minority groups? Conservative!!!!! The answer is yes, and a minority group what we get from counting how many people are in that group relative to the larger groups. It's not some kind of abstract concept that can only be understood by a dedicated SJW. So you can go co-opt some other movement to push your agenda, It is this groups agenda if men are concerned. Do you really think we'd rather take your side and exclude the issues…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 06:27 PM
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Men's rights is going to have take on the issues of all kinds of men just like feminism tried to with all kinds of women. That doesn't mean we have to go overboard pandering to these subsets of men but just as we deal in depressed men at risk of suicide or a man who lost access of the children due to the courts we'll also have to deal with a gay man facing discrimination for not being sufficiently masculine. We had a post about a boy being bullied for a my little pony bag where the school insist…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 06:20 PM
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Because you're one of those sexist control freaks like Manhood Academy, or Return of the Kings but pushing femininity instead of masculine traits. We don't have to tell people what basket of gender traits they must adopt in order to treat them decently.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:49 PM
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Men should be able to stay masculine and still get compassion as human beings. That's what we're trying to fix. This men are broken crap is what you were sold by feminist rather than how we treat men as a society which was the approach they used for women.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:47 PM
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We attack the bigots and A**holes calling men the devil. What do you thinks bigots did to racial minorities back in the day? Exactly what feminist have been doing to men for half a century. Systematic demonetization of a group to deny them compassion and make more acceptable their abuse. None of it has to be true, that's what propaganda is for.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:46 PM
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Calling it a 'construct' doesn't change a damn thing. I can call your personality 'shit' and say it's just a construct but that won't make you feel better. " There was a time when men were masculine and women were feminine. That didn't work." No it actually worked pretty darn good because it got us all the way here short of half of century. You are obviously a feminist doing the feminist indoctrination thing. I know your enamored by what may be new found insight but it's a lot of sexist garbage …
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:43 PM
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Okay now you are going all super feminist indoctrinated bullshit on us and I for one am not having it. In fact if you came in here bashing femininity the same way we'd tell you to head over to /r/TheRedPill. The gender bashing crap is the whole problem and it need to stop. Sure we can on occasion talk about patterns of behavior we associate with men and women but what your doing is declaring one sex defective through a indirect attack by focusing on a gender trait we associate with them. Masculi…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:40 PM
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We spend our time exploring male vulnerability so IMO we're pretty damn in touch with our femininity. We preach compassion for men and boys not stoicism beyond that required to continue our advocacy in the face of overwhelming opposition. We demand compassion for male victims including ourselves. We see kindness towards men as the way forward instead of the psychological and emotional abuse toward men that is modern feminist advocacy. "The conditioning of "masculine" is the problem itself" No th…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:35 PM
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The MRM does not bother defining masculinity it simply stands up for ALL MEN however the choose to be. They must be confusing Men's Rights with Manhood Academy or something. We don't define male identity or female identity. People can do whatever they want just don't be sexist for or against either.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:30 PM
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Just point to the overlap between majority and minority issues if you can't be bothered to know their issues. It's far less dismissive (offensive).
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:25 PM
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Equality focus creates different focuses for different demographics or we wouldn't bother with having a men's movement. THINK MAN THINK!
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:23 PM
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Quite the opposite. Inclusion of race gives the MRM needed cover not that it should be race centered. A little lip service along with attention to already major issues like Mass Incarceration will do the trick.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:22 PM
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Great response.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:19 PM
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The point is addressing minority men's issues rather than only the majorities issues. You fail there you make them feminist who are at least offering lip service. It might have helped if you knew what minority issues were but your too busy trying lash out at them for giving a damn about themselves.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:18 PM
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Must you be such an ass? 'Nobody owes men anything, Why should we be interested?' A feminist might say. Wake up dude you're in a social justice movement whether you like it or not. If your conservative disposition makes you opposed to such things then too bad.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:16 PM
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"Is creating racial (and sexual) equality something that is big on the agenda of this movement?" I'm a black MRA in part because of the corrupting influence feminist domination of social justice and how it's diverted resources and attention away from minorities and back the white women who now dominate the dialog. The entire construct of 'intersectionality' has been corrupted into a rationalization to justify pushing the issues of most significance to privleged white women like getting CEO jobs …
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:12 PM
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"Furthermore, making threats against the hotel and its employees would be counterproductive to our mission as people in the service industry are more likely to be Women of Color already facing significant violence due to the intersections of race and gender." Do we need anymore proof that these scum bags don't care about men? They've turned social justice into a system of selective hatred towards the designated 'out group' and I'm so sick of these asses poisoning young peoples minds with their c…
/r/MensRights07/06/14 03:56 PM
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MRA stuff is well received on ThoughtCatolog so give it a shot.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:05 AM
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Just use this study instead: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ It has the 70% female unidirectional perpetrator figure.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 04:02 AM
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LOL
/r/MensRights07/06/14 01:04 AM
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I'm such a bad anti feminist because I still never bothered to find out why they don't like being called female but I do know I don't care.
/r/MensRights07/06/14 01:03 AM
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IMO: Dr. Smith = Male Feminist (Get in to fit in variety)
/r/MensRights07/06/14 12:59 AM
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You don't seem to understand your oppressor is not interested in your charity; they are interested in your subjugation. They are offended by the fact men even have issues. The mere discussion of those things is a serious threat to their power. Between us and their radicals it's us or them. The moderate feminist who we occasionally hear from are already fine with their being a men's movement. The perpetually aggrieved hate the patriarchy (men) types ain't backing down until popular opinion turns …
/r/MensRights07/06/14 12:35 AM
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You've consumed the same propaganda everyone else has been exposed to but I'm sure you've never seen any of these 'oppressed' women. We live in the same homes, go to the same schools, we work at the same jobs. There is no oppressed women in the Western world. What we have are men and women with different problems who on average make some different life choices. Nobody is oppressed. That language is misused by ignorant young activist who will believe whoever gets to them first, and that's usually…
/r/MensRights06/06/14 07:06 PM
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The problem of male rape not being acknowledged is because we never had the national conversation on the subject. The myths are due to a failure on the part of feminist to address them like they did the rest. We don't have to address myths through a rape culture since we've done so in the past without resorting to that kind of fear mongering. The high risk behavior making you vulnerable to victimization is an issue we used to address without a second thought and now we think we can educate risk …
/r/MensRights06/06/14 02:13 AM
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I responded on that post and too will repeat what I said then. I'm a proper partisan primed for attack, rebuttal, and engaging the opposition using every rhetorical weapon at my disposal that falls short of hatred against innate groups within our society, while ideologies and such IMO are not entitled to protection. The peace makers will have to put up with hostilities until some sensible middle ground is reached where injustice is no longer the norm.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:30 PM
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He said nothing of the sort. He did not feel holding the door was oppression. He wasn't sold on that nonsense.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:32 AM
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The pervasive idea that men can't control themselves, can't help but rape a women in revealing clothing, is part of rape culture. Similarly, the idea that men can't be raped because they "always want it" is part of rape culture. That's not a pervasive idea. That's some B.S straw man feminist dreamed up like 'don't ask what she was wearing'. Saying the whole culture or much of it accepts that in the mainstream is plainly stupid and or intentionally deceptive. Women walk around half naked all the …
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:32 AM
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On principal false rape is a good fight assuming we have some end to end solution of fairness to address both real claims and false. We can't demand there be no means of addressing real claims because they are damn hard to prove. That's not fair to victims. It's easy to focus on the men's side alone (usually the accused) but that's being too much like feminist. Demanding due process is good. Going around saying we know how many rape claims are false when we don't and feminist don't isn't too goo…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:26 AM
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I think the court challenges from the falsely accused are what's going to undue the 'Dear Colleague' letter and it's got more mainstream coverage than a little bit. Our other issues like male's 'forced to penetrate' not being counted as rape victims has gotten shit coverage. There was that one Hanna Rosin article on slate in the years since the CDC NISVS 2010 got released. That's a winning issue with plenty of controversy but doesn't make us look like we're trying to protect rapist. We need some…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:23 AM
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You are right about that, but I needed to point out the short comings because we're leaving some critical bases uncovered that will come back to haunt us and putting too much focus on the very issues that serve as the basis for undermining the whole movement. This mainstreaming phase is tricky business. We'll miss the freedom if it goes well if not we can yell at the sky and tell it to stop raining like we're used to.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:17 AM
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I could have wrote that comment myself because I wrote one just like it. I meant talk outside /r/mensrights thats all.
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:15 AM
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Why are you waiting for approval on twitter? That's not how it works. You tweet, and you can reply to other tweets. Too much of the latter might get you suspended for a bit but you'll be able to resume shortly. That's because the system suspends people who've been blocked. Feminist will mass block to get you suspended but suspensions can be minutes long when you are being blocked for no reason. Don't go in apologetic, go swinging for the fences. We are the ones with the moral high ground and fac…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:10 AM
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Men's rights isn't labeled a hate group. The hate group is trying to label us a hate group. People get it, and I don't think MRA's here realize how much support there is for men's issues. The feminist attacking us is why we have gotten more attention than we would otherwise. Let them talk trash and it's on us to correct misconceptions by doing what we've been doing. Their scared for good reason because they know people are getting fed up with their antics. The old tricks aren't working like they…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:05 AM
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I was going in on that hashtag and the feminist position is weak. I encourage more of you to get involve on twitter to learn something about direct engagement and what it takes to debate feminist. Talking among ourselves is nice but it's not speaking truth to the ignorant relying on spoon fed propaganda. We have enough MRA's here at any given moment to shift the conversation on twitter. Each time they gather it's an opportunity for us to engage, correct misconception, also demand compassion for …
/r/MensRights05/06/14 05:03 AM
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I'm sorry but I don't subscribe to the petty issues feminist put forth as legitimate. This is what they took to when they ran out of serious issues and we don't have take them up when we have yet to delve into the vast array of serious men's like Mass Incarceration that have not been addressed. If we want to find some overlap with the liberal establishment we should be pushing the minority men's issues instead of the concerns of privileged white women with nothing else meatier on the table than …
/r/MensRights05/06/14 04:59 AM
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The impression men could get from this article is women are astoundingly narcissistic and self centered but that's why we blame feminist instead of casting this B.S as the opinion of women in general. Instead of 'misogyny kills' Amanda Hess should have wrote it insures job security for feminist propagandist posing as journalist who need cover for their blatant gender bias.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:07 PM
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Personally I think that list sucks. I was posting it on twitter until I actually read it. First it starts off focusing heavily on false rape when few men are accused of rape, fewer charged, and even fewer convicted. Your odds of being convicted of a false rape claim are exceedingly low but we hyper focus on that issue as if all the other struggles of men are minor in comparison. They are not. The piece devotes a hell of a lot of space to false rape and skims over the other issues. It's shit in m…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 12:41 PM
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Here is the thing about "mansplaining". First it's sexist, it does not deal with women's on condescending shit, and it's not at all necessary for us to micro manage interaction between the sexes so obnoxious women can bash men whenever they like for in anyway annoying them. Mansplaining is a made up thing like so many concepts from the gender world like 'rape culture'. The idea is that men can't be permitted to be who they are with women but must tone down their ways to fit norms as defined by w…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:55 AM
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A lot of the antipathy towards Men's Rights probably stems from how Men's Rights are presented in the media; No it's because it's called "Men's Rights". Nothing more need be said for them to be opposed to it. Feminist were always opposed to MRA's from back in the Warren Farrel NOW days. The source of optimism for us should be that people are fair and see men are having serious problems. That's why we get support in the comments on these MRA hit pieces from people who don't know much about us. We…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:52 AM
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I engage feminist daily so how is it I'm not going to have some ideas about them? Of course I don't engage them face to face and if I did they'd be wise not to pull the crap they do online. It's very different when you can't shut the other person up but they'd always be free to storm off once they lost the moral high ground. I'm clinging to nothing, I just deal with reality as it comes. I'd like nothing more than some mature resolution to these matters but it's not in their interest to be genuin…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:48 AM
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Maybe it's because they were raised during a time period where there actually was a lot of gender inequality, so they feel like they've got to fight to hold onto the rights they've achieved. No they did it to divide sexes that had prior to that been cooperating and turn them into adversaries as a means of forcing radical change. Men and women got along well, it wasn't a climate of hate and fear as some suggest. Women could do quite a lot but most didn't want to. There was sexism but there was al…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:42 AM
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A cursory glance at the history would have told you these things. I don't even know how you got these impressions because they are so detached from the actual story. Feminist are still lobbying for the ERA but you think they don't want it. We don't have to distort reality to make our case. The argument about feminist not wanting true equality is sound but frame that as a society where we have equal compassion for both sexes rather than favoring the victimization of one.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:38 AM
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Her name was Phyllis Schafly. She was a conservative lawyer who took down the ERA by telling women they would lose special privileges afforded to women if it has passed. She was correct and Men's Rights would have been better off it it passed. I still don't believe that feminists truly want equal rights nor an equal rights amendment where everything is equal under the law. I disagree. I don't think they understand it's implications but they certainly do want it.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:35 AM
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REALLY? What space was that because it sounds great. More likely is you so watered down the message you never ran up against their heavy bias or framed it in such way that you recognized your 'male privilege' which effectively eliminates the need for them to do anything about it.
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:21 AM
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Men aren't in this because it feels good and personally I find that view insulting. Men facing down a wall of hate against their sex is not equal to women joining the fray to whine about men much the way women always have because men's desire to seek their approval was always a source of power and influence. The reverse was true to some degree but that usually took the form of women's competition for status among themselves. The old saying "the women is always right" predates women's lib. Men ar…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 11:18 AM
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I'm a proper partisan who does see the MRA perspective as an improvement because I'm constantly running up against the idealogical road blocks of feminism the movement and the cultural feminism that permeates the mainstream. Feminism isnt ready for real equality. It's activists are consumed by resentment for men they've been developing rational for over decades. They are protecting a very real privilege with real power. It's the sort of power men's rights wish it had. They aren't going to willin…
/r/MensRights04/06/14 02:49 AM
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It's a bunch of white women as usual. I spent enough time there to know.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 11:52 PM
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The only thing that really matters is winning support on our issues. That's what we're here to do. Men's Rights isn't even organized like that. A place like CAFE has a big problem but they'll get past it if we win on the issues.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 11:51 PM
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Those people are feminist and the usual fence riders deriding both. I read the comments on all these articles and it was people outside the MRM defending MRA's. Few people seriously follow gender issues. Winning the mainstream happens on issues not the reputation of Men's Rights in feminist dominated gender circles.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 11:50 PM
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Yeah I checked out white lady tears a while ago and it's pretty specific to white women relating to black women. We can't all play the role of blacks relative to whites so it's not practical. I prefer #WhiteGirlOppression as my retort but white men understandably are reluctant to push back in kind just as we men in general reject employing all feminist tactics since their bigoted and hateful. I have no problem invoking race because I'm dead serious about my beef with white feminist dominating so…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:37 PM
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Are you a freaking idiot? Why would you say shit like that. I hope you delete your comment. This isn't play time.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:20 PM
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So we have indisputable proof of feminist making violent threats and what are we doing with it? Is this going up on facebook pages? Is it being spread on twitter? We need to get off this damn sub and do something people.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:19 PM
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I'm not worried about what we say or write here being discredited. It's that we're not writing everywhere else.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:17 PM
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Don't be scared. Bad press is attention and we can leverage that if we were actually doing stuff off reddit in numbers.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:16 PM
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AVFM made the MRM into a community and I'd like to see people backing it instead of acting like divisive asses undermining our most powerful platform. I see too much backbiting from people who attack AVFM and we'd be better off without those people. This sub doesn't have prominent voices they do.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:15 PM
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People are still citing the SPLC. If we like we could go after cracked and demand they recognize men's issues. We don't use our numbers for anything useful other than to talk to each other here. What about actually organizing a campaign against things? We still have all these subscribers and a very active sub but we don't do anything with it but talk.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:13 PM
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Nobody who actually deals in gender issues seriously.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:11 PM
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The issues man the issues. People need valid reasons to be against feminism but their misandry already has people hostile to them. They make their own bad image through action. Your memory is short. People are still ready to stand up for men and boys. The Men's Rights label is irrelevant but we should wear it proudly for what it really means. Men's actual rights.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:09 PM
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PUA and Redpillers are men being free people doing as they please. We don't support them but that's their business. The issues are what matters. Compassion for men and boys is what matters and the more complacent feminist become with their position of authority the more they abuse it. That's where we find opportunities to make a difference.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:05 PM
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We've been up against this stuff the whole time and it really doesn't matter. What matters is the slackers who sit on reddit getting out and engaging. We're still growing and will continue to grow because we have the facts on our side. Instead of cowering like so many other men we need to be the ones showing people feminist are a paper tiger.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:04 PM
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This isn't about Reddit, this is about the issues. People are with us on the issues and that's what matters. Educate anyway we can and we'll do just fine. Bad press is still good press because it drives people to ask questions they need should be asking. Try reading the comments instead of just the articles. We're doing fine with everyone except feminist who are scared of us for that very reason.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 09:01 PM
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We bring all men out of this oppressive place or we're not free. Feminist didn't go soft to get support, they went hard and they still are going hard. We don't get sympathy but we're always going to get more evidence we're right. Just randomly someone brought up sexual harassment and the first link I got showed men and women about equal in a study from the UK. Truth is on our side. They fight dirty for those reasons and we can keep hammering just like we have been. Before they knew what a MRA wa…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:52 PM
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Do you realize the climate we're dealing with right now. A fence riding peace that gives men like us breathing room is a blessing especially from a prominent gay liberal black man. In other words he's hard to label the way they do white men(which sucks).
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:48 PM
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One number, 30,000 men a year in America. Repeat that till their ears bleed because it needs to be heard. It's twice the total homicides each year in America
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:18 PM
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I'm engaging people outside of Reddit and we are way under represented on twitter. We can do some good work there winning people over and sharing information we've gathered over the years. It's no good if nobody sees it but us and redditors who know our arguments inside and out.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:13 PM
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Childish...somewhat but I hear being expected to shave one's legs is oppression so...
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:11 PM
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Yes derailing is the point when High School dress codes & men showing casual sexual interest in women are being equated with women's oppression. The #WhiteGirlOppression problem is one of women who don't have substantive issues be they white or not trying to coopt social justice to talk about their petty personal issues. #Solidarityisforwhitewomen raised that issue but in the context of wanting to continue to have WoC align with white feminist who quickly put them in check and pushed them back t…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:10 PM
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I think you missed the point. The interest is dependent on the power differential between the respective causes to put it in feminist terms. For example it's hard to build interest in things people don't know exists.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 01:05 PM
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Old man? Nah man I'm not old just older than a kid in high school. We fight the good fight here so air your grievances with those who allowed the issues of men and boys to be marginalized over the generations. Other than that "fuck you in the ass with a rusty garden trowel" is fucking unacceptable. How old are you?
/r/MensRights03/06/14 12:59 PM
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Check that entitlement stuff. I've literally never seen someone say that.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:45 AM
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You only know about girl problems and you have not been educated on men's issues. You're clearly from a background too privileged to get it at the ground level. If you were in the inner city you wouldn't be thinking like this at all.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:43 AM
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Being annoyed by petty life B.S is not oppressed. That's what happened when privileged people started looking for excuses to call themselves oppressed. Even men's rights is extremely reluctant to call men oppressed and even the things that happen to them. The term is misused by young people who have no idea what it was because their too young to have that kind of perspective on the history we came out of. You only know what we told you and we have not told you enough. People would laugh in your …
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:42 AM
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Those are petty problems and I suppose you deal with privileged people who lack serious things to talk about so they indulge their personal issues and call it oppression. That's what I mean when I said in a prior reply social justice is not supposed to be self centered. We're talking about society not who did what to us last week and how society must change to fix that. You also ignored the obvious like men shave their faces most get haircuts regularly, we have to brush our teeth and wash our bu…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:39 AM
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Don't do the self centered thing. For that anyone in social justice should be yelled at because it's not about you. The issues are bigger than all of us. I see way too much entitlement from you young people on matters far larger than your personal feelings or egoes. It's not up to others to make you do right, you see right and do it. Right action does not have to be wrapped in a bow for your pleasure.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:36 AM
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Feminism dismissing men's issues means we haven't discussed a gender gap in higher education going back 30 years. You are blaming male culture even when the issue can very well be matters affecting children. This kind of evasion isn't good for men or society. We could have been dealing with everyone equally by now but it serves feminist to keep their narrative alive because it diverts resources back to feminist. You raise money for them remember. If they had men's groups on equal footing you mig…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:34 AM
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Little too much entitlement. You should actually study the issues since you have been doing gender issues for a long time. There are plenty of sites out there if you need some ask for that instead. Men here have been putting up with a lot of hatred from feminist towards men and it bothers them. You see that same hate and join them in it. Kind of like a Klan guy asking about the problems of black people after a church was bombed by them but you'd home they might be a sympathetic one who could mak…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:30 AM
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You are heading a feminist club but there is no men's club in your school. The issues of men and boys don't get addressed because they have no gender lobby. You are here at men's rights because you don't even know what men's issues are. That's women having it better before getting into details. I just got through a thread where someone was explaining how teen boys get booted out domestic violence shelters but not teen girls. Women get shorter sentencing (60% greater for men). Women in your age g…
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:26 AM
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YesAllCats rocks.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:15 PM
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I tore into it just for the heck of it. It was so lousy it would be a better case FOR MRA's with all the blatant sexism, lack of compassion for men, and double standards.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 11:14 PM
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I was thinking about the hashtag #WhiteGirlOppression to deride #YesAllWomen and it's cousins #AllMenCan & #NotAllMen. The idea is we raise the petty issues put forth in the other thread and the general entitled privileged mindset in their oppression narrative. Suggesting for example we can make all women perfectly safe on the streets as if that were a reality for men. If you knock down the upper echelon of opportunistic manipulative jerks the rest won't give you too much trouble. They have real…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 11:18 PM
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Academic feminism already played it's part in creating what feminism is and they created a monster. If the good feminist are so good all they have to do is properly take up men's issues but they won't have any activist to promote them. Evidently these activists are the ones we all have a problem with and the only way to tame them is to discredit them until they remember what fairness and equality actually is. We have to do what it is that we do which is challenge feminism head on so more find th…
/r/MensRights31/05/14 12:06 AM
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Some of them are monsters, but most are just ignorant.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 12:01 AM
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Just had a long hard day of fighting the feminist scourge in twitter land where MRA's seem conspicuously scarce. Attacking feminist in general is what we supposed to do because they are trying to label us a terrorist organization and have launched an all out assault the likes of which I've never seen against something as tiny as Men's Rights. People attack Conservatives, and Liberals all the time and life goes on. For some reason feminist think their hot shit. I do not agree. These people are co…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 11:32 PM
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YesAllMen is a hashtag and it's sort the trending rebuttal to #YesAllWomen. The new Hashtag is #AllMenCan which is male feminist showing their masters undying devotion.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:55 AM
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How to suck up to the ladies like a proper feminist man tweets only: #AllMenCan stop interacting with women. no, fellas, you aren't gonna get laid that way, but you just might be happier overall #AllMenCan teach their sons to love and respect women; it's far better than having a shotgun ready for daughter's 1st date. Thx #AllMenCan wise up + understand that Solange wanted to ride the elevator alone #ElevatorGate #MenNeverListen #AllMenCan stand up and speak out against rape culture and misogyny.…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 02:14 AM
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I hear that.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 11:16 PM
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Trust me we're pretty damn offended all the time so asking for your every sensitivity to be coddled is pretty damn insensitive. Check the entitlement at the door please. Don't put us in the box of having to please you because you're a women. We'll treat you fairly and equally that's it.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 04:37 PM
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I can give you plenty of empirical proof but the question is why you don't know that already? Are you so blind to the pain feminists words cause men? Do you not see them waging war on those who advocate for men? This is from a review of piece titled: "ThirtyYears of Denying the Evidence on Gender Symmetry in PartnerViolence: Implications for Prevention and Treatment" "However, as will be shown later in this article, until recently, few have accepted this evidence, and some of those few will not …
/r/MensRights29/05/14 04:33 PM
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"How can you pretend to fight for equality of the sexes when you get so upset that women are voicing their own struggles? " You do realize these feminist are trying to brand us a terrorist organization for daring to discuss men's sexual and domestic violence victimization along with other men's issues? How can you know feminist and be so clueless as to why we'd be upset with #YesAllWomen fueling the next wave of male bashing that will undermine our efforts to draw equal or at the very least prop…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 04:18 PM
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You know what pisses me off. MRA's don't do shit on these hashtags and we get our butts kicked in these trends when we could be dumping information on the very ignorant people we are trying to reach. We should be mass producing catchy infographics so a google search for "Men's Rape Infographic" isn't a bunch a crap about men raping women. We have so little to work with. Even a search for infographics on this sub results in a pathetically small repository. We need those things to educate on twitt…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:14 PM
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Even the comments are tragic. Man hating is back in style not that it ever went out of style.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 12:17 PM
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"To be honest, while I do find decent posts in this sub a lot of the time, I am still terrified of the MRM as a whole because there are so many crazy radicals." No there aren't. You can say anything you like but the backlash we see against the MRM shows where the radicals really are. They won't even allow men to talk period unless those men swear allegiance to their ideology. This whole 'women is scared' tactic to manipulate men's sympathies is clearly something that has gotten out of control. I…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 08:12 AM
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I suggest you look at this huffington post article and see how strongly people opposed the mischarictieriztion of the MRA. I think enough people have some clue what we do and why we exist. Nearly every one is on board with dads not gettting a fair shake in family court and associate that with MRA activism We are fighting for half of humanity. We shouldn't stand for people rejecting the idea men should be treated with kindness and respect as well as women. We're traped in a abusive relationship w…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 10:24 PM
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"someone who cares about women and is interested in advancing their options in society" I love your definition of feminism because it's accurate and honest.
/r/MensRights28/05/14 05:18 AM
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I applaud this piece. It's honest and unifying. I could definitely work with someone like this. That said, the feminist establishment intend to crush all opposition so your well meaning comments simply puts you where we are; feminist or not. "But I do not see this discussion between women's and men's rights as antagonistic in any sense, and I am frankly appalled why the two don't work together more often." We didn't have a discussion, we are having a fight. I don't know what 'discussion' you wer…
/r/MensRights28/05/14 05:11 AM
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"The difference is that these women are speaking as marginalized members of society in anger about their oppressors. The men I quoted were speaking as oppressors against people who are already marginalized" This is where you start telling him the white women he's fighting for are privileged as hell and he'd have to prove otherwise to keep going. You can also tell him that white women are taking social justice resources away from the poor and minorities by exploiting their white privilege and whi…
/r/MensRights27/05/14 06:32 PM
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We need more infographics which are quite useful in twitter fights. I wish there were more MRA's on that platform because we can educate more people there than we do speaking to the choir. Correcting misconceptions is about getting knowledge out there and that's the only power we really have but it's also why they want us shut down.
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:31 AM
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Question for you - do you grind your teeth every time you hear "women and minorities" from these privilege princesses? Yes, a emphatic YES! Enablers? Like the KKK and the lynching campaign, or the modern-day rape hysteria? Enablers like men who insist men deserve to be treated badly because they are men. Feminist are right about men holding the power, but they control men to turn that power against men for some perceived benefit to women. These are the abuse enablers while the abuser in their sa…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 07:38 AM
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The conflating of race (civil rights) with gender has been a disaster. Ironically things are fairly quiet on the racial front but you'd think (white) women were just emancipated from slavery with the amount of crazed ranting we see from feminist and I'm not talking about women's liberation which might be a perspective of women in their 70's now. These activist have created a narrative purely from study and ideology with no basis in reality other than what they have been told. Their oppression is…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 06:50 AM
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Not only that, if they kick them out the activist energy will be drained from the movement. It's not a practical option for them to give up male bashing which seems to be the motive behind most of those who engage in their campaigns of male reeducation. Starting with premise 'Men are broken and women must fix them' is a very attractive to women who feel disempowered in their lives for whatever reason. Feminist are projecting their own desire to control the opposite sex while they accuse men of d…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 06:40 AM
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The fact women or even whites hold power doesn't make their choices automatically beneficial to the group they belong to. A can be white and pass affirmative action legislation for minorities, or they can be a minority and reject that legislation. These superficial identities do not completely define us. Historically it's apparent that women lobbying for women's issue had no problem getting the legislation they wanted past so long as it was popular with the voters who happened to be 54% female. …
/r/MensRights26/05/14 06:35 AM
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Feminist defend and promote the misandrist in their movement. I'm starting to think these feminist claiming good intentions are really just interested in pacifying the opposition. The virulent hate throughout the movement is all too apparent. This isn't wilful ignorance, it's refusal to acknowledge reality. They talk about not seeing one's 'privilege' but they don't see their own hate. We might have to go from simply educating to a literal fight for our dignity as human beings with people who vi…
/r/MensRights26/05/14 06:15 AM
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Trolling through hate is really hate mongering. It's the feminist version of a digital lynching burning a man in effigy.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 12:47 PM
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I been on #YesAllWomen defending the men, rebutting false claims, and reminding them we're still here. All we can do is educate because we don't have much power other than that. Meanwhile, the Jessica Valenti Guardian post was joke. I don't think people are as dumb as feminist think they are but it's going to turn a lot of people off from identifying as MRA as if most aren't already. We do unpopular things like care about men and boys. I'm not surprised.
/r/MensRights25/05/14 12:46 PM
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Aside from the great evil of the killer themselves I'm disgusted with how feminist have chosen to exploit the issue to promote 'rape culture' and their anti 'MRA' agenda. We need to stand up to a river of misinformation that will have lasting impact. Then again challenging misinformation and misperceptions is what we're all about. Those who don't have twitter should get one and push back on hashtag #UCSB and anywhere else we are being misrepresented. We can have the conversation with or without …
/r/MensRights24/05/14 11:10 PM
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I've been hoping for a long time that white men would wake up and turn this privilege check back on the white's issuing the challenge 95% of the time. There simply aren't enough minority activist making noise to have created this wave of 'calling out' that magically excludes the white women who share their brothers relative privilege. It's white feminists women who have long rigged social justice into a self serving endeavour which allows them to make political movements out of their personal is…
/r/MensRights24/05/14 02:42 PM
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It might be something worth complaining about but if a body type is not you own why does it matter if it's obtainable or not? Not everyone will look like everyone else. We have to deal with that individually even if we collectively discuss self acceptance. Realistic body image is what you see in the mirror.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:48 PM
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I am not talking about radical feminists, it's the run of the mill I need to bringing down the patriarchy kind. What do you think that #notallmen hashtag was about? That wasn't the radicals. This : http://www.msnbc.com/the-cycle/watch/toure-on-the-phrase-men-should-stop-using-260579395943 This is not radical feminism, it's the freaking mainstream and it would help if you stopped trying to defend those going to war with the very notion of giving a damn about men's feelings. The rest is for the be…
/r/MensRights22/05/14 06:46 PM
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We so aren't freaking there yet so quit looking for excuses to obsess over what women want and what they like. Men by nature care about women and love women. Feminist on the other hand take that tendency and turn it against men to get whatever they put on their wish list while demonizing men as much as possible to sustain a eternal guilt trip employing the vilest negative stereotyping they can get away with. Femspllian is for FEMINIST. Thats an ideology not a innate human group. 'What about the …
/r/MensRights22/05/14 05:13 PM
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I think you need to put this one under action opportunity. I'm sending an email now at [email protected] and I welcome others to do the same. This level of gender bias today on issues of sexual and domestic violence is not to be tolerated.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 08:19 PM
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You don't know feminist if you think we've stooped to their level. We love women and care deeply for them despite feminism. We don't use the physical or sexual abuse by women against men as an excuse for hating their gender. Demanding equal compassion along with simply giving a damn when awful things happen to men doesn't amount to submitting to a world view where we cease to care for our wives, mothers, sisters as so many feminist have do e or endorsed through statements denying the significanc…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 11:36 PM
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It looks about the same from the outside and has similar consequences. Feminist are still trying to force people to listen to their crap like it's 1979.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:56 PM
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If I'm reading what you wrote correctly the only reason MRA exists is to combat Feminism? Do you honestly think feminism is to blame for ALL equality problems for men? I blame feminism for using a male negative perspective which has emerged into pervasive institutional bias that undermines efforts to address all equality problems related to men. What are these problems? Well we have a huge gender gap in higher education favoring women but the entire focus in on getting more women in STEM or Tech…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:54 PM
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I finally found something buried under all these stories about the tidbit I put below this quote: Sex in Austraila's Prisons the Facts "Contrary to portrayals of jails as sexually rampant places, a survey by the University of New South Wales (UNSW) found only 7% of male prisoners had had sex with another prisoner, while for female prisoners the number was higher at around one-third. And when sex did happen it was overwhelmingly consensual. "Sexual coercion seems to be a disappearing phenomenon i…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 01:37 PM
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So true... She really put things into context for me as well.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 01:16 PM
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If you do one thing cover this article: You should also cover the "gender symmetry in domestic violence". Other than that do the usual 80% of suicides and homicide victims, 93% workplace deaths, 93.3% of our worlds largest 2.3 million person prison population (5% of world population, 25% of world's prisoners) google 'mass incarceration' for details. Of course you can cover women now getting 60% of bachelors and Masters degrees, and men making up most of the homeless and you can talk about this s…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:07 AM
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I think validating the turning of these personal issues of self esteem into legitimate social justice issues undermines the broader goal of de-escalating this gender warring nonsense. Women aren't hurt by sexualization they are intimidated by it because it raises the bar on expectations that they fear they can't meet. Of course men can have similar feelings but we should let the personal be personal instead of insisting the world hide the pretty people so we can feel better about ourselves. Neit…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 02:03 AM
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Wow that was freaking hilarious! Nice work.
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:46 AM
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The problem with the argument is the notion of gender privilege as white men and women share racial or majority privilege within the democracy which will automatically makes the most sought after voting block to the extent they vote as one. This also relates to gender since women also have a degree of majority privilege. The other assumed forms of demographic privilege don't correlate with rates of poverty because men and women within a race share their economic resources thus exist at roughly t…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 12:02 AM
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I'd like to see some responses in the comments but I don't chime in on B.S like this but there is a rape threat in there that I'm sure will be used to deflect all criticism on this article. On the other hand someone says the comments have been wiped so I'm sure there is a lot of hostility coming there way. I think we need to have a strong response to this one be it boycotts or whatever else. This article has crossed the line and those authors need to be fired.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 11:30 PM
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This would be a fine place for a gendered insult as a retort but it's not going to happen.
/r/MensRights19/05/14 11:28 PM
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