BlameBillyVan Archive

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5	Because men who don't conform to male stereotypes is why we need feminism Men and women are judged based on how well they're performing their assigned gender role. For women, it does tend to be more about biology: women are expected to be beautiful and fertile. They get asked about when they're going to get married (prove you're attractive to men) and when they're going to have children (fulfill your role as a woman). They get harassed about this sort of thing all the time until they get married and have kids and then everyone tests them on their mothering and homemak…	/r/MensRights	25/06/14 05:05 PM
16	Because men who don't conform to male stereotypes is why we need feminism I appreciate the cooperative spirit of the cartoon, but: Nope! I agree that men are shamed for failing to conform to a gender stereotype, but men are not shamed for being 'like women'. They are shamed for failing to live up to their assigned gender role. Women are not expected to be physically strong; consequently, they are exempted from demanding physical labor. When a man acts weak, he's 'shirking his duties'. The insult is basically: "Who do you think you are? A woman? If you were a woman, yo…	/r/MensRights	25/06/14 07:42 AM
1	Creating a complete rebuttal of feminism Honored, PA. Steal away.	/r/MensRights	25/06/14 01:23 AM
3	Creating a complete rebuttal of feminism I think it's funny that you assume I don't know what patriarchy is. Maybe you should learn to think critically instead of making wild assumptions. (Oh wait, feminist. Never mind.) Patriarchy 'theory' takes the sociological concept of patriarchy and then makes an additional enormous ideological leap into realms of unilateral oppression. It's no wonder people debate it. Slavery is also a sociological concept, but if you create a theory, call it Slavery Theory, and then use it to justify the oppres…	/r/MensRights	24/06/14 03:10 PM
2	Creating a complete rebuttal of feminism Sorry, I'm not buying what you're selling. Feminism, as one of the dominant ideologies of contemporary society, contributes to systematic injustice and social inequality through the demonization of men. I somehow doubt Intersectional feminists are going to call themselves out on it, however. They can either acknowledge feminism's contributions to systematic injustice and social inequality and abandon feminism (ie. drop the speculative theology masquerading as social science and restrict themselv…	/r/MensRights	24/06/14 06:19 AM
3	Creating a complete rebuttal of feminism This whole discussion pitting 'the patriarchy' against 'the matriarchy' is meaningless. There is much more historical evidence that the social organization of men and women was jointly constructed by both men and women for the benefit of both men and women than there is that it was constructed by men exclusively for their own benefit at the expense of women. Patriarchy 'theory' is ivory tower sexism. It's devoid of intellectual merit. Feminists have to prove that 'the patriarchy' is a better des…	/r/MensRights	23/06/14 05:44 AM
4	Ever feel like men's rights has opened your eyes and mind a little too much and you'd like to go back? I avoid looking at women whenever possible and often cross the street to avoid unintentionally giving a woman the impression that I might be following them. I also avoid initiating conversations with women I don't know. I learned this from feminists decades ago, before I'd ever heard of the MRM. MGTOWs didn't dream up this behavior; it's exactly the kind of behavior feminists have been struggling to impose on men for decades. When I was a feminist, I did this out of respect because I genuinely l…	/r/MensRights	22/06/14 07:20 PM
4	Ever feel like men's rights has opened your eyes and mind a little too much and you'd like to go back? Kind of like feminists being narcissistic sociopaths for believing that men fuck them over just for being women.	/r/MensRights	22/06/14 06:29 PM
5	Feminism Hurts Women Too Most MRAs are egalitarians that support equal rights and responsibilities for men and women. Men's rights and women's rights do go hand in hand, and consequently MRAs and WRAs can work together no problem. I love and respect the women in my life and treat them as equals. The problem with feminism is that it isn't just about women's rights; it comes with a parasitic ideology attached to it called patriarchy 'theory' that manufactures and actively reinforces a gender hierarchy that requires contin…	/r/MensRights	19/06/14 06:09 AM
5	Missing from feminism is any acknowledgement of the huge instinct men have to love and protect women. Calling love and compassion toward women benevolent sexism is a good way to socialize men not to feel love and compassion toward women.	/r/MensRights	19/06/14 01:35 AM
15	Somaly Mam, feminist anti-slavery activist, has been found to be lying about her own past as a sex slave (never happened), and misuses the children in her care. Going to have to disagree. We don't praise people selling snake-oil because they claim to be curing diseases. Hire someone to pretend to be sick, give them your fake cure, watch the miraculous cure take effect, profit. When people complain, just say: "But he really, really wanted to cure people! That should be the focus!" This woman sounds like a con artist. Con artists always pretend to be something they're not, and gullible fools will continue to believe them in spite of the evidence to the co…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 03:30 PM
7	The proper response to "PATRIARCHY!" I agree. The NAFALT 'argument' is irrelevant. If the core axioms don't stand up to criticism, it doesn't matter how much you quibble over the details. Feminists are drawing conclusions from faulty premises. Take 'Rape Culture'. If you believe in The Patriarchy, then Rape Culture seems like a foregone conclusion: if women are actually oppressed (ie. treated like a slave class) then there seems to be little reason to prohibit that kind of behavior. Unfortunately, it's hard to reconcile this theory…	/r/MensRights	10/07/13 05:04 AM
10	The proper response to "PATRIARCHY!" Patriarchy theory is the geocentrism of gender studies. Superficially, if you look at the way society is structured and has been structured throughout history -- and you don't really know much about history or evolution -- it seems to make a certain kind of sense. The moment you actually begin to study the relationships between men and women in an evolutionary sense, studying different cultures and time periods in relation to the environments in which they evolved, the model breaks down. It's ju…	/r/MensRights	09/07/13 05:36 PM
3	Hateful feminist moderator of /r/CreepyPMs /u/NoseFetish linked to this site while ago. Thought I'd share There may be some truth to a biological explanation for this, but I wouldn't read too much into it. I think you can explain a lot of it through numbers: every time you bring a new man into a child's life, there's a chance that he's going to be a bad apple, whether that's violent, neglectful, etc. If you're still married to the father, there's only one man; if you have ten partners after that, you've basically given your child ten more chances to get a bad father. Even getting remarried once doub…	/r/MensRights	05/07/13 02:00 AM
13	Not obtaining consent? Illegal. Obtaining consent? Also illegal. Fembots: Criminalized because they encourage men to treat women like objects. Dildos: An expression of healthy female sexuality. Yes, your simulated dismembered male genitalia collection is much less offensive. At least my fembot has a face, dammit. You'd think the feminists would be all over mass-producing fembots. They'd be like decoys for sex offenders. Keep that misogynistic trash off the streets, I say. End rape culture by encouraging voluntary house arrest: put a fembot in every home!	/r/MensRights	04/07/13 02:17 PM
3	10 Reasons Why We Still Need Feminism I like the last one, because it means there will always be a need for feminism. The rest are just filler.	/r/MensRights	04/07/13 01:52 AM
1	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires I feel like we're going in circles. Humans did not evolve as individuals, they evolved as groups, so focusing on the costs/benefits of individual males is going to skew your interpretations. A human male has always had to consider the reactions of other members of a group when pursuing sex, which means there are always dominance hierarchies to contend with when it comes to distributing one's genes. A strategy like: "inseminate every female I come into contact with" isn't a good strategy if it ge…	/r/MensRights	02/07/13 05:38 AM
1	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires Of course they can, all they need to do is work as much or less than women. And I think you will find this to be a very inefficient strategy. If the most effective survival strategy is for both parties to work as hard as they can to ensure the survival of their offspring, and if men, for the reasons I listed, are capable of producing more value through their labor, then families in which the male engages in more labor than the female will out-compete families with a strict tit for tat relationsh…	/r/MensRights	01/07/13 08:49 PM
2	Reddit WorstOf- OP submits meme praising his wife, has his character and dedication to his family almost unanimously attacked and questioned by redditors as OP is forced to be away from his family to provide monetarily for them. Because he'd be a deadbeat.	/r/MensRights	01/07/13 08:01 PM
5	"Sick of being treated like the enemy, guys are dropping out of society" Response: "Patriarchy hurts men too." Also, something about us imposing gender roles on ourselves. I'm pretty sure they all have a binder filled with canned responses, like telemarketers.	/r/MensRights	01/07/13 05:55 AM
54	why it's mean to turn your wife down for sex: "See, women take it personally." Well, this is certainly going to create problems for feminism. It's going to be hard to keep women convinced that all men are violent sex offenders when their boyfriends can't get it up. I'm also tempted to coin a new expression: when a woman asks her man to stop playing videogames to attend to her sexual needs it should henceforth be known as the Call of Duty. Just close your eyes and think of England, lads. And finally: "In prison you just have to close your eyes and take it. Here you have to …	/r/MensRights	01/07/13 05:22 AM
1	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires of all three, the men prove to be the best investment for yielding fruits of labor. But two men investing in each other won't produce any children. I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Men, on average, can't help but produce more value through labor than women. Men are stronger, have more working days available, and don't have to carry children around with them. The fact than men produce more is an accident of biology, not an indication of moral superiority. Whether men and women are eq…	/r/MensRights	01/07/13 03:41 AM
1	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires My point is not to state whether they did or didn't but rather to ask; How do you know this? My point is that it's not that important. I think it's enough to have a general sense of what kinds of activities people were engaged in. I don't need to know whether sheering sheep is worth more than grinding flour. it would appear that their labor has been greatly valued, as they have exchanged other things of great value for it, such as their home, labor, wages or safety... To me it seems likely that …	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 05:47 AM
1	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires with the exception of how time consuming something is, these things are not only difficult to measure, but are untrustworthy measurements, since, as far as I know, it is unclear what is even being measured It's unclear to me why these measurements have to be made at all. There's no way to measure the value of work beyond a crude sort of 'market forces' approach: the value is derived from the wages earned. An actor makes more than a ditch digger, but the value is derived from the scarcity of his …	/r/MensRights	30/06/13 01:37 AM
4	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires I think the worst part about this is that most of them don't seem to realize they're only working with half a toolbox. They think spinning a greased wheel is equivalent to rubber hitting the road. Endless, meaningless, self-indulgent rotations. Love "eating its own rhetorical tail", btw. Pure gold.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 10:45 PM
1	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires your posts give me reason to suspect that you are not motivated by a desire to honestly evaluate the evidence at hand, but rather, to satisfy some need to make the societal contributions of women equal to that of men I don't care one way or the other, that's just my opinion based on my experience and reading. If it turned out that women 'contributed less', how would that information be useful? Policies should be gender blind, so if, in fact, women don't work as hard as men, they won't be rewarde…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 07:42 PM
6	A study about FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION, and they ask why we are going it alone... Grapeban, I hope the 2% statistic is correct. I'd be even happier if it were 1% or 0%. But you'll have to forgive me if I'm a little less than charitable toward an ideology that systematically excuses women when they behave like assholes. My statement is just an extrapolation from what I've come to expect from feminists: excuse, deny, ignore.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 06:24 PM
3	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires I don't think having a long-term goal for society (utopia) is a good idea. I think it's better to discredit invalid theories (feminism), collect accurate data (no more loaded studies), and make the laws gender neutral. If we can eradicate purely ideological influences, the problems should eventually correct themselves. It's like learning to ride a bike: if you lean too far to one side or the other, you fall off. You need to keep making adjustments to keep your balance. A lot of these problems, I…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 04:59 PM
24	A study about FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION, and they ask why we are going it alone... Once feminists realize that they can't ignore the data refuting the 2% false rape allegation statistic they'll simply claim that women make false claims because patriarchy. They'll never accept responsibility for wrongdoing for so many women. They'll come up with a list of excuses justifying those claims until they can get that number back down to a reasonable number of 'bad apples' (ie. 2%). All those other claims will be justified for one reason or another.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 04:03 PM
2	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires Which is why it will someday be added to the latest edition of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:22 AM
2	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires Hard isn't, perhaps, the best term, but I believe they worked as diligently. The fact that one job isn't as physically demanding doesn't mean that it isn't as important and time-consuming, if you get my drift. It might be easier to pick berries than hunt bison, but that doesn't mean it doesn't need to be done. I have reservations about regarding male labor in the service of women throughout history as "oppression" for the same reasons I have reservations about regarding female deference to men a…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 05:10 AM
7	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires I think the relationship between women and men under patriarchy is easier to understand using the 'expert / non-expert' paradigm. Women, until recently, spent a great deal of their adult life pregnant, nursing, or rearing; they didn't have the freedom to engage in activities that took them too far from home and had to be constantly on the look-out for dangers to their children. As a consequence, it was up to the men to hunt, manage violent disputes with competing groups, build shelter, craft wea…	/r/MensRights	29/06/13 12:23 AM
2	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires Whenever the subject of patriarchy, violence, and warfare comes up, I'm often reminded of the first couple seasons of The Walking Dead. That show does have kick-ass women, but by and large, the men are expected to do the dangerous tasks because they're bigger and stronger and they have more experience with violence. They're the ones that make decisions about where to move the group, how and when to go for supplies, what to do with people who compromise the group, etc. But is their behavior 'oppr…	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 06:52 PM
3	Karen Straughan: When female privilege backfires Because logic is a tool of the patriarchy and it's used to oppress women.	/r/MensRights	28/06/13 06:15 PM
2	"Men fix their anxieties and their depression and everything with women. A woman fixes it with trying to either jump into work, or they will focus on their children, go to a therapist or they'll try to get it together." I had no idea I was so co-dependent. I really hope people don't take this kind of nonsense seriously. It's idiotic.	/r/MensRights	26/06/13 01:55 PM
3	What Will We Concede To Feminism? Bias depends a lot on the demographics of the readership. Fantasy is fairly evenly split between male and female readers, so Margaret isn't really at a disadvantage. Try building a career in romance under a male pen name, though. Good luck. Personally, I can understand Rowling taking a gender-neutral name, primarily because the series is about a boy's rite of passage. In this case, the subject influences her choice, even though, as a woman, she wouldn't really suffer from a bias in children's li…	/r/MensRights	26/06/13 02:02 AM
1	The hypocrisy of "rape culture" and "slut shaming." Feminists run into all sorts of problems with their constructs because none of them are very well thought-out. 'Objectification', as it's used by most feminists, is just male sexual desire shaming. There's nothing deep about it. They don't like that men are attracted to certain physical features presented in certain ways much the same way that men don't like to be reminded that women like men to look and behave a certain way. Putting a naked woman on a screen does not promote 'rape culture' (wha…	/r/MensRights	24/06/13 05:15 AM
6	Talking to a feminist friend, she said she thinks that MRAs are a hate group and likened them to the KKK Some feminists openly promote castration and male genocide and most tacitly support male genital mutilation. Curiously, they're not considered a hate movement. If the SPLC were not biased, feminism would also be considered a hate movement. Claims like "Warren Farell advocates for child sexual assault" are so egregiously untrue that it doesn't deserve to be repudiated. You might as well say he eats babies. Many of the founders of feminism, on which all modern feminist theory is based, were far mo…	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 11:48 PM
8	Talking to a feminist friend, she said she thinks that MRAs are a hate group and likened them to the KKK non-profit does not mean unbiased ad hominems and character assassination are not arguments anti-feminism isn't hate any more than anti-racism is hate; the internet is full of asshats, and there aren't any more commenting in MR threads than there are in feminist threads particularly amusing, since all feminists do is complain about male privilege and male violence; oh, and feminists are particularly fond of circlefingering about 'old white dudes' atheists reject the devil, that doesn't make them…	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 09:24 PM
3	Men better not dare to define Womanhood - but of course everyone and their mother should define Manhood Well, you can't expect feminism to liberate men all at once. They'll get around to the money issues as soon as they've liberated men from their traditional roles in positions of patriarchal authority and fatherhood. Just be patient guys.	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 05:46 AM
6	some perverted men =/= all men are perverted This statement: "For everyone saying not only men are perverts, women don't search for this kind of shit, and it's much much much more rare that they do" is factually false. Ebook erotica is now a huge industry. More women buy erotic stories than men. (Estimates range from about 70% to 90% of all erotica is purchased by women.) Erotic stories are every bit as perverted as porn, which you can verify for yourself by browsing Amazon.	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 05:29 AM
-10	Men better not dare to define Womanhood - but of course everyone and their mother should define Manhood This is incorrect. Feminists want to liberate men from their traditional roles. Government agencies will step in to fill the void. Governments can be run by feminists. Where do you see men in this equation?	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 04:54 AM
-2	Men better not dare to define Womanhood - but of course everyone and their mother should define Manhood Her theory has been discredited by recent feminists who have already proven that children don't need fathers.	/r/MensRights	23/06/13 04:39 AM