BlueAndYellowTowels Archive

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2	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) Ok, so. A semi-reasonable response that doesn’t resort to personal attacks. The human mind is complex thing and we need to be wary of the impact of conditioning and culture on people. Things like implicit bias, exist and are well documented. So, let’s begin with where men are. I agree with you. Progress has left men behind. Men have had a place and role in society and society altogether has decided that men are no longer needed in the capacities they used to be. However, that decision has been… …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/12/25 04:55 PM
0	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) “Is that patriarchal society in the room with you right now?” Every, single, time. The moment people don’t want to address ideas they pivot… they pivot to anecdotal experience, they pivot to “oh, I know! You don’t know!”, No True Scotsman rhetoric. They refuse to address the core idea. Instead you refuse to address even the idea of a patriarchal society. They result to insults. Being left is more than digging chicks with body hair. Just sayin’	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 09:03 PM
1	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) “Is that patriarchal society in the room with you right now?” Every, single, time. The moment people don’t want to address ideas they pivot… they pivot to anecdotal experience, they pivot to “oh, I know! You don’t know!”, No True Scotsman rhetoric. They refuse to address the core idea. Instead you refuse to address even the idea of a patriarchal society. They result to insults. Being left is more than digging chicks with body hair. Just sayin’	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 09:02 PM
0	Patriarchy and men's liberation is a lie, and why you shouldn't be a feminist. From the article, the divide is largely along education. From the OP article in the summary. “Almost one in three people from the top social grade ABC1 - those in managerial, administrative and professional occupations - called themselves a feminist in a 2018 poll. This compared with one in five from grades C2DE, which include manual workers, state pensioners, casual workers, and the unemployed. But those from lower income backgrounds are just as likely to support equal rights. Eight out of 10 p…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 07:29 PM
0	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) It’s strange that you have “left-wing male advocate” as a flair… because you’re literally saying the same exact things as the Right. This idea that manosphere only tells men how to manage dating is, verifiably false and you’re arguing in bad faith if you think so. You either, carve out specific definitions of what the manosphere is or you re-interpret their rhetoric to only be about dating or you just pretend it doesn’t exist. This idea that the manosphere doesn’t tell men that the world is bett…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 07:05 PM
2	Women, like men, show an aversion to potential partners with “high body counts”. This isn’t gendered, it’s a human response and also, conditioned by a culture that is highly sexualized. But, broadly, no one wants a high body count because there is a risk of disease. At a bare minimum, that’s a consideration. Then, you have what a high body count implies and usually different cultures /individuals interpret different things out of this: - Non-committal - Maybe has a problem with addiction to sex - Someone who only gains connection through sex There’s a lot of… concerns around…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 05:56 PM
-1	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) Those are byproducts of system itself. Those are not evidence of the alienation (however, the numbers would likely get worse because of alienation). Those are just, side effects of a patriarchal society. Spree Shooters… were quite rare in the US before 2000. Where we saw significant changes in Western culture around gender equality and also, a pushback around the male, white world view. We’re still at the start of this process. But yeah… those issues are all tied, to varying degrees, around the …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 05:49 PM
-1	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) Same one. See, people do this thing where they selectively quote statistics and don’t address the point or idea being presented: men are alienated and the root of their alienation is the disconnect between what they were told and what is apparent. Which yes, then leads to homelessness, imprisonment, workplace deaths, addiction and suicide. Correct.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 04:23 PM
1	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) Right. Tell me again… are all men 25 years old? Do older men not try to influence younger men? The Mansosphere tells men what again? Are you legitimately telling me you think because you think it hasn’t been a thing for 25 years that automatically that means it’s just no longer true for all men all at once? Are all men in the West FROM the West. Did all school instantly change how they taught boys? Did Western culture as a whole abandon the narrative? Yeah, that idea seems like it’s from a galax…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 04:03 PM
0	The mainstream left-wing acts like feminism is beyond criticism Maybe? Doesn’t mean we have to accept that. Right? There are women who refuse children. There are men who expect women to have children. Why would the inverse be impossible? There are men who refuse to be seen strictly as providers and protectors. There are women who expect men to be providers and protectors. Just because the expectations exist. Just because old conservative world views exist, it doesn’t mean we should capitulate to them. This isn’t complicated. Don’t be with those women. That’s…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 03:44 PM
-5	The mainstream left-wing acts like feminism is beyond criticism It’s not a lie. You just choose it to be.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 03:40 PM
-3	Thoughts on the whole warzone between men and women (Especially the "When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression" sentiment) I completely buy into the “When you’re privileged, equality feels like oppression.”. I have one very clear and concise example that demonstrates that, in fact, it’s true. It’s completely true. Mass / Spree Shooters Predominantly white. Predominantly men. Why? Because white men feel the most extreme alienation. Why? Because they were conditioned to believe they were the masters of their universe and could do and be anything. Why? Because the institutions surrounding them told them this. Why? Beca…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 02:34 PM
-9	The mainstream left-wing acts like feminism is beyond criticism Feminism falls under Egalitarianism. Feminism is about equality. The reason why the left has a knee jerk reaction to the critique of feminism, is that it is a critique of equality. Reminder, feminism’s goal has always been equality between women and men. That’s it. It’s not about suppressing manhood. It’s not about hating men. It’s not about feminizing men. The vast majority of the time, the definition of feminism is obfuscated and abstracted to create a straw man to attack equality. That’s why …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 01:59 PM
1	“If women are behind on a metric, it’s recorded as inequality. If men are behind, it’s recorded as parity. You read that correctly: The index is explicitly designed so that men cannot be seen as disadvantaged, no matter how far behind they fall.” That’s because men are never disadvantaged in this system. Until the system collapses, men should be treated as advantaged. Always.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 01:50 PM
1	Scott Galloway on the masculinity crisis: ‘I worry we are evolving a new breed of asexual, asocial males’ \| Men I’ve began to see him here and there while being online. He was doing the rounds on a bunch of podcasts and news outlets. So I sat down and listened to him. I’m gonna be fair here, he’s talking about it. That, for a lot of people, for a lot of people in this space is a good thing. The conversation is never a bad thing. That said the substance of the conversation is one that, for me, doesn’t hold up the scrutiny. He’s Diet Coke Red Pill, in my opinion. His adherence to capitalism’s adversarial fr…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/12/25 01:45 PM
-2	Men who dismiss the Misandry of women as laughable are part of the problem. No, I’m not worried about the Duluth Model. It’s reasonable. Hermasmann vs Seyer was a fascinating read. Justice was served in that case. She had committed statutory rape at the criminal level, which was bargained down in a plea deal. However, in the civil case, it has harder to prove that Shane Seyer wasn’t consenting. Since they engaged in sex several times, consensually. All that said, the court’s responsibility is to the child. No one else. It’s in the child’s interest that support be paid. …	/r/MensRights	28/11/25 03:52 AM
2	Bureaugamy: women replacing men with government. For example, a Canadian example here. From 2020. The breakdowns look a lot more like I would expect. It bears out the complexity of the conversation. Because it actually accounts for families.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:33 PM
1	Bureaugamy: women replacing men with government. Well, they don’t? As the paper itself admits, the numbers they have don’t account for families and if that’s the logic, then you probably feel like old people steal from young people? Since old people are a net negative and young people aren’t. Correct? Also, women don’t spend as much as men, so why should they pay the same in taxes? That’s like saying poor people should pay as much tax as rich people. To the dollar, not the percentage. That’s… not how that works.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:22 PM
2	Bureaugamy: women replacing men with government. Figure 3, women make half as much as men The also includes women not in the market (mothers and homemakers) which accounts for a lot of the gap Figure 7, men have far more disposable income as a result Figure 8, items are nuanced when looking at per capita. So, for one. Up until 20-24 age range they pay the same. There’s a divergence at 25-29. Probably due to children and marriage. Figure 9, women spend less than men. Figure 8 was based on indirect taxes. So naturally, if you spend / have less y…	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 02:58 PM
1	What Changes Should Occur for Marriage to be Appealing? I don’t know. I think more carrot, less stick. Meaning, I don’t think we should be dictating if people are compatible. I think instead, we should be setting them up for success. Something like a “good faith dividend”. I would probably put together a set of course on communication, keeping home and financial management. These course would never be mandatory but… if completed the couple, once married will enjoy a large tax rebate or a cash dividend for going through the process. I would make it a …	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 01:10 PM
-2	Bureaugamy: women replacing men with government. Traditional Women tend to have this belief system. But, in more progressive areas (cities) it’s a little more nuanced. Every woman I’ve dated split the bill. I’ve offered to pay, I have no issue doing that. But they exist. But, when dating, I filtered for that. It was important to me that my partner be a lefty. So, it’s something I sought after. In my opinion, if the women you date want you to pay, your standards are too low and you’re settling. You don’t need to if you don’t want to.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:46 AM
2	what are the purpose and role of the average male in modern society? That’s funny. Because I’m far Left and I think men should define their own purpose and do what makes them happy. I think every man should define his own purpose. Absolutely.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:40 AM
1	what are the purpose and role of the average male in modern society? Actually, it is.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:38 AM
1	what are the purpose and role of the average male in modern society? This.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:36 AM
2	what are the purpose and role of the average male in modern society? It’s honestly something MRAs should learn from Feminism. Women decided they wanted to be something different, and they accomplished it. Men should do the same. Instead they keep insist on women going back and that’s not happening, ever and also, we don’t want that. That’s messed up.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:34 AM
2	what are the purpose and role of the average male in modern society? That’s the beauty of freedom. You choose. Our society doesn’t force men to do anything. No one forces us into marriage. No one forces into work. No one forces us to date. No one forces us to have sex with anyone. We are free to choose our destiny. You pick your purpose. I picked my purpose, anyone can pick theirs.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:31 AM
-12	Men who dismiss the Misandry of women as laughable are part of the problem. I dismiss it. Women didn’t impose tariffs on my country. They didn’t suggest annexation of my country (Canadian here). They didn’t vote at the same intensity men did for the current US administration. They don’t own the company I work for grinding me through 12-16 hour days. I’m not worried about misandry. It’s a non-issue from my perspective.	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:17 AM
3	What Changes Should Occur for Marriage to be Appealing? I am a married man. What would make marriage more appealing? It shouldn’t be. Marriage is hard. Marriage is a commitment. It should be very high risk and extremely difficult to break away from. It should punitive. Because once things get going… kids for example. The marriage has to be maintained. I am not saying we should force people into marriage. I am also not saying we should force people to stay in marriages. But, if the narrative is “marriage sucks, it’s not appealing”, good. GOOD. The peo…	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 03:03 AM
-2	Bureaugamy: women replacing men with government. I do. It’s not always the case and often, you can avoid women like this is these values aren’t aligned with your own. Men who get taken by women like this are lazy. You gotta vet your dates and if you don’t, you should have known better. Women are better at vetting their dates. This is why they have strict standards. They’re trying to tilt things towards their preferences, which is their right. …and it’s also your right as a man to look for partners you think are best for you, no matter how unre…	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 02:52 AM
0	Bureaugamy: women replacing men with government. Assuming women prefer the state. And? Great, then men don’t have to worry about women settling for them. Clearly their only concerns are money. Taxes are more… complex than you’re implying. Here an example of the breakdown. It can be sliced in so many ways. You can say men pay more. You can say families pay more. You can say older people pay more. You can argue the young take from the old. Let’s be real here, it’s a nothing statement to say “Men pay more and women are taking from men.” That’s fr…	/r/MensRights	26/11/25 02:47 AM
1	We should not call men lonely, or talk about the male loneliness epidemic You do you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 07:13 AM
1	What do you see as "Men's Issues" From my world view “Men’s Issues” aren’t real. This notion that somehow we are at the butt end of a system is wild to me. The system was built for us, by us to enrich and protect us. To keep us patriarchal and competitive. For us to always be competing against one another because that’s what props up the system. Men have no issues. Their hardships tend to measure in lowest terms when you place them in aggregate in the grand scheme. Men, overwhelmingly make up serial killers, spree shooters, terr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 06:20 AM
–	What does the blue pill get right and what wrong? I agree with this. Definitely. I am Anti-Red Pill way more than Blue Pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 06:10 AM
–	What does the blue pill get right and what wrong? “Be yourself” is the right advice. Because it’s the path of least resistance. When you are always yourself, then you don’t have to lie or spend energy maintaining a facade. What we get wrong? Some people, are objectionable and when they are themselves they drive people away. We fail to understand that some people are just shitty and like being shitty. We fail to see that some people want to be with other people but also don’t want to change. Like, that shit just… I don’t even know what the fuck …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 06:08 AM
1	I don't understand the obsession with the Just World Fallacy on this sub I don’t think Blue Pillers Think the “world is fair and people get what they deserve”. Which is what the Just World Fallacy is. I know this because it’s self evident that the world isn’t just and it’s also self evident that immoral people prosper. I know I don’t think that shit… anyways… I do agree that being nice isn’t good enough. It’s sort of like wheels on a car. It’s not a car without wheels, for sure. No one is going to buy a car without wheels. But no one buys a car FOR the wheels. They u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:56 AM
1	CMV: Dating apps work perfectly fine and the way they should; there is no actual way to improve them. Personally, I always viewed Dating Apps as “an option”. So yeah, it’s an option and honestly it doesn’t matter if it works or not, there are other ways to meet women. I met my wife through a dating app. But I was out meeting people pretty regularly. Either out with friends, meetups or a night course on some subject at my local college. There’s always opportunities. The apps are one way to meet people and, in my opinion, how they work is irrelevant. You try them, and then try something else, and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:38 AM
2	Men should decenter women too They can both decenter. I have been in many a social situations, rarely does the topic of virginity come up and deny an opportunity. You’re gonna need to extrapolate that out a little bit because most people don’t know a damned thing about other people proclivities just by looking at them. Please, work out the social situation where being a “permavirgin” denies them an opportunity, socially. Because as a dude who hires people for work, asking about their virginity is definitely not on the “appro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:24 AM
1	Men should decenter women too This assumes Incels are the responsibility of women or anyone else. They are not anyone’s responsibility. They need a long hard look in the mirror and a whole lot of distance between them and civilization. Because that’s a “them” problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:11 AM
0	Men should decenter women too No one is responsible for Incels. They can tend their own garden.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:09 AM
14	Men should decenter women too This is why men will never decenter women. Because women are always a net gain for men. The inverse is rarely true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:06 AM
3	Men should decenter women too Not her problem. Incels should fix their own shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 05:05 AM
1	Men should decenter women too If men stopped placing women at the centre of everything, life would likely be a lot easier. The problem here is blaming women for everything. When you “decenter” women, you then have to ask yourself the hard questions. You have to figure your own life out for yourself and, honestly, that’s the best approach. Women decenter men because men have proven themselves to be more hindrance than help… the reality here, and it’s why men will NEVER decenter women is this: when it comes to male and female …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 04:58 AM
1	We should not call men lonely, or talk about the male loneliness epidemic This is just… a lie? 18% of perpetrators are women. 48% of all victims are women. Here. From the FBI. In short: men hurt everyone, equally. To quote: “Men are more likely to committing violent crimes, while the share of victims is roughly equally divided between the sexes”	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 04:11 AM
2	We should not call men lonely, or talk about the male loneliness epidemic Shhhhh… the precious man is feeling… don’t come at him with all these facts and logic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 04:06 AM
0	We should not call men lonely, or talk about the male loneliness epidemic See, that’s your problem… you use shit like “vivacity” in every day speech… no shit you’re gonna have trouble making friends. The main thing most people forget about friendship is that it’s about the audience, not the performer. That means you need to meet them where they are… not the other way around. Eventually you can come to a place where it’s back and forth but in the early stages you gotta relate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/25 04:03 AM
-5	Why does this sub need to prove that they dont hate women when feminist subs never do vice versa? Those aren’t tags. They’re flairs.	/r/MensRights	10/12/24 09:43 AM
-8	Why does this sub need to prove that they dont hate women when feminist subs never do vice versa? This is a solid example. It’s a post saying what “Feminism is” and like, for a Men’s Rights subreddit it’s really bizarre that you’re trying to state what Feminism is. Like, you don’t really get to define what is valid or not… This is why some of the pushback exists. Women see posts like that and are like “Yeah, I know exactly what you’re about.”. It comes off as condescending and petty. …and consider the audience? A post telling the audience what Feminism really is, in a subreddit that really i…	/r/MensRights	10/12/24 08:08 AM