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A gate has to be opened by one party and walked through by another? Yes. Men can desire both. I can want to walk through the sex gate while simultaneously wanting her to walk through my relationship gate. You did not understand what I just told you. You should be alone forever for typing like that. Sick neg breh. /r/thebluepill The Blue Pill is not a hate cult. Equating TBP to TRP in that context is borderline retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 08:00 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 02:02 AM
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Nothing happens unless both partners want it to happen. Men more often desire both either ONS or LTRs, therefore, they're not the gatekeeper of either. As woman are far more content to be alone forever if none of her options are to her liking than men are. Women do not have underground Reddit hate cults with Matrix names. Men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 12:09 AM
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Oh, I missread his context. In any event, I'll agree that stats claim the average partner count is closer to 4, but I personally don't know any 25'ish yr old women with only 4 partners. One woman I know's partner count just that I know of is 4, but Im aware she tends to keep her sex life fairly private, and she has done a number of partners in private, so it's higher than that surely, and all the other women I know's partner counts range from something more like 10-40, so I don't know how much t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:41 PM
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Men are the gatekeepers of absolutely nothing, unless you happen to live in a nuclear family and his job keeps the lights on, while the woman housekeeps. The idea of men being the gatekeepers of commitment comes from the idea that women desire LTRs, but it ignores entirely that most men are thirsty for romantic validation, and that an LTR is just as much work to achieve as a ONS. If a man can't get a ONS, he likely can't get an LTR either, and vice versa. Therefore, men gatekeep nothing. A worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:30 PM
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Why shouldn't I lie exclusively?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:19 PM
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Men don't give or get validation and attention with the express notion of giving nothing in return (generally). Women can't go around sleeping with every man they meet in the first fucking hour in the hopes he's going to LTR her now can they? Of course they can. What would ever make you think they couldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:17 PM
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That's not relevant. A woman can have 100 suitors and only pick 10... ...which is what TRP teaches... ...which is what pretty much everyone agrees with...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:12 PM
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Of course, they are capable of saying it. It's perfectly clear. They want to continue spending time with you but without any pressure to have sex. That's not what they're saying. They're saying "let's be friends first", which communicates she thinks the guy's a puttz. People didn't magically create the "third date" trope. Sexual liberation caused it and women themselves are mostly to blame because unless your nipples taste like chocolate milk and you're a sick split screen partner for Call of Du…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:10 PM
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That would depend entirely on your outlook on life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 11:06 PM
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Ok, I get what you mean, but AM is a biological strategy. It doesn't really make sense to use it the way you've used it, but I get what you meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 03:25 AM
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If only women were physically capable of saying what they mean, this whole mess wouldn't exist in the first place for you to so graciously clear up [Phew :/]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:53 AM
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I didn't. YOu said "Assortive mating is a thing which exists for many of us." insinuating it doesn't exist for others. It either exists or doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:51 AM
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I would agree that I absolutely did grow up being taught the idea that people who prefer the company or sexual attention of others purely for superficial reasons above that of their character or moral worth was shameful. Liking someone only because they had a wicked car was and I'd argue is still considered fairly shallow, and people who are shallow are generally considered worse people of low character. PemBayLiss may have been speaking hyperbolicly but his point beneath his vitriol is, in my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:27 AM
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Assortative mating is a thing that exists. It either is in effect or it isn't in effect. The context of your reply doesn't make sense. [assortative mating isn't a thing for some people but not others; that's not how it works]
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:11 AM
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So you analyzed 100 threads, and every comment within each individual thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/16 03:59 AM
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Your post has a flaw in that it ignores the content of a thread's related comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 10:59 PM
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What kind of combat mode?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/16 03:45 AM
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Not having to get married to get sex is only of value for men who have the power of choice to A) attract women for casual sex and B) pick women of their choosing for commitment, both of which are not qualities most men share in common. It's not about incels, you're right, incels would never succeed anyway. It's about math and satisfaction. All men getting, say, 3 or 4 options and marrying one is better for all men than a swath of men having 0-1 options and a couple guys having 50. Attractive men…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:55 PM
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You do not represent men. You getting your dick wet does not represent the wants or needs of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:20 PM
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You're not really making an argument, you're more just ignoring another person's paradigm because it's inconvenient to your own. Revenge is a pretty basic human emotion. Mating is people's primary goal in life. Tell someone indirectly or directly that they are too unattractive to have their affections reciprocated and bad things are generally going to happen. As for the other 3 points, you'd have to make an actual argument instead of just feeling at me that they're not logically sound. Everythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 03:15 PM
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No. I'm saying it comes from the fact that women are a source of pain and suffering and people suffering typically seek to control the source of their suffering. If you have a splinter in your foot, you pull it out. It also has a lot to do with revenge. Women fucked them so they wanna fuck over women. It's not about one person's needs superceding another's, it's that women lost their "right" to be treated with altruistic respect when they treated said TRP man like shit, so why would this TRP man…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 02:50 PM
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My personal theory is that women have a strong tendency to compartmentalize their emotions or feelings towards a particular issue than men. Where men might view the plight(s) of people doing worse than themselves in any given field to be this, that, or the other thing generally, and may have a fairly static opinion on it, women seem to be able to express sympathy for, say a homeless person, but at the same time, has no issue viewing an incel, or a fat female colleague as sub-human.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 02:43 PM
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TheRedPill is a help group (and hate cult) for men primarily who did not receive masculinity conditioning when younger and now fail horribly with women, ie. otherwise known as incels (to be honest, most of them would fail anyway; women's standards would just increase, so it's neither here nor there, but I'm trying to be complete in my thinking) Whilst some of them do become successful, and I have no doubt TRP works for some of these men, the question is pretty silly in the context of the dynamic…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/16 02:21 PM
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Fucking 1's and 2's is not "getting someone else".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 06:48 AM
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I have no idea what you're going on about. Then use your brain and figure it out. First of all, consent certainly is an issue. If I want something, whether or not someone is allowed to say no has no bearing on whether or not I'm going to upset at whichever answer I didn't want, especially if it implicates I'm a lower value person than them, so no, it doesn't. Second of all, if somebody isn't into you (regardless of sex/gender), you can always find somebody else. No, you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:59 PM
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If you're hungry, food is a commodity. If you're hungry for human affection, access to sexuality and romance is a commodity. Whether or not someone has the ability to consent is not the issue. What is relevant is someone is in possession of something you want (sex, romance, affection, validation, love) and doesn't want to give it to you under the presumption you're unworthy of it. This very naturally causes male and female directives/paradigms in live to be mutually animositous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:14 PM
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If You're hungry, and someone else has a delicious steak dinner ready and you'd like to have some, and they tell you you're a disgusting loser who doesn't deserve a cut of their steak, this dynamic is unlikely to produce a cooperative interactive environment for both individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:35 PM
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...What...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:32 PM
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"80/20" does not mean 80% of men never get laid, it means 80% of men don't have the power of choice the other 20 do, if at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:24 PM
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Intellectual honesty doesn't rely on omnipotence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 06:10 PM
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Women sexing, women dating, and women LTR'ing are 3 different things. If a man can't do 1, he can't do any. That's not the case for a woman. A 4 woman can score an 8 man if the stars align. That doesn't happen to men. I personally don't believe women settle ever. If Pem said that, that's his own personal belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 04:59 AM
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...Then your premise is fundamentally dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 04:44 AM
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Most of what you're saying is self righteous and that's pretty on paper, but you can't say blanket statements about who takes responsibility for their lives. Someone posting to bluepill could just as easily be cheating on their SO, failing classes, blaming their siblings for X, y, z problems in their life, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:32 PM
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They have much more than men do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:24 PM
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Many people isn't most people. Most people do very little physical activity, and if they do, it was back in high school or college.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:17 PM
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Most women do next to nothing hard, only cosmetic (as do men) and manage to do it fine. No one is doing hours of cardio. Barely 30% of the US population even attends a gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 04:04 AM
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I disagree whole heartedly. Even fat women have a niche of men who fetishize larger women, and BBW's.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:41 AM
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There's no such thing as a female unrealistic standard. Most women who are idolized are simply thin. Most women do perfectly fine in the SMV without being these women. On the other hand, men not only have higher standards to achieve by virtue of women being able to "sell" their sexuality for whatever buying price they wish these days, but more of them, like physical fitness, mental fitness, masculinity, education, career, etc. All anyone asks of women is to look ok in a bodycon dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:17 AM
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I... don't get it...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:12 AM
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In a forum, people can post whatever they please. If your participate in a community that pretty obviously is going to naturally trend towards a high incel population, it's not their job to amend their desired topics of conversation; it's yours to either leave, or add something of value other people want to talk about instead. If people don't like it, they should post questions themselves about whatever topic they find more interesting. If you cannot handle a Reddit forum in which people ask que…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:10 AM
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First, 80% of men did not have mediocre sex lives as evidenced by the average partners in the last year and lifetime sexual partners statistics. This statistic itself states that 56% of women have between 3 and 14 partners and 51% of men have between 3 and 14 partners which clearly demonstrates average women are more often sharing average men than average men are attracting women. Hypergamy confirmed. It does not state the quality of the sexual partner in relation, nor does it state whether the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:57 PM
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So putting aside that /u/Gavinok has already pointed out all of the major logical errors you've made in your post, I'm basically just going to reiterate briefly for the sake of not hiding behind someone else. http://cdn.okcimg.com/blog/your_looks_and_inbox/Female-Messaging-Curve.png In your first image, you admit in your write up that it demonstrates women have a higher standard of attraction, which means it logically follows that more women are having sex with fewer men, which supports TRP's th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 08:06 AM
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I disagree as from my life experience, 80/20 is pretty accurate to real life male/female sexual dynamics I've witnessed pretty much everywhere. Even at my current workplace which is divided pretty evenly 20/20'ish male to female, 1 male has had some kind of romantic encounter with 9 of the women and the next male has only had 2, and the rest of the males are at 0 (not for lack of trying), but I imagine you will hand-wave this away, so I'm curious if you agree that in general more men fail to att…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 12:39 AM
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Then sure, we're in agreement on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 03:25 AM
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But if one of them takes advantage of the other it's rape. For example if one of them passes out and the other decides to have sex with them it's rape, but it would also be rape if both were drunk or if only the rapist was drunk. If you pass out drunk and a drunk chick shoves a beer bottle up your ass it's rape and she's the rapist. It's just that cases like this happen way way less often while desperate guys that prey on drunk chicks can be observed in every night club and at every larger party…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:59 PM
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In the same way women claim they don't love assholes; they love masculine behavior and the two just tend to come as a package, men don't love bitchiness, it's a detriment; the two just tend to come as a package.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 09:41 PM
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You have a pretentious attitude. It's annoying. This can go on all day, for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 12:46 AM
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...ok? Again, I don't see why you're emotionally invested in hating him just because he doesn't take your advice... That's on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 07:19 PM
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TRP says you don't care about that though, so...not really living up to the stereotype here...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 05:41 AM
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You must be a complicated hooker if you have surcharges for kissing #TRPConfirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 05:40 AM
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Yea, I'm pretty funny sometimes. This the part where we make out now?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 01:35 AM
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Then do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:51 PM
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It has been demonstrated before in actual studies tgat platonic relationships are rare. Colbert spoke about one on his show. This is not surprising or new...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:50 PM
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Shine bright like a di-MOND.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:44 PM
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And what leads you to that conclusion, princess?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:43 PM
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This is the longest post I have ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:35 PM
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I don't see how that a) is a valuable use of your time other than feeding a transparent desire to make yourself feel better about yourself or b) alpha behavior. If I really didn't respect someone, I cut then out of my life or let them do their own thing and I do my thing and that's about the end of it. This is like the male version of the "self hating feminist". Women might be a miserable group of entitled do-nothings, but at least they have solidarity as a group; they have studies about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:31 PM
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What good does that anyone? That's like hating poor people for being poor; really says more about you than it does about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:56 PM
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The wall is only ever true if a given person is at their theoretical maximum smv in their youth. Lots of hot people spent their youth overweight and unliked. Lauren Drain was a fat author and decided to be a fitness module at 32. She's like 10x hotter in her mid thirties than she ever was in her teens and twenties. Lots of men also don't reach their smv height until later in life. Not to mention lots of women who were hot at 20 are still going to be comparatively hotter at 40 than average and ug…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:47 PM
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"Women only want what other women want"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:56 PM
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If you're going after men who can have anything they want, some jamook telling you you're a 10/10 doesn't mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:31 PM
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No, you don't. I skimmed you're profile because you're comments are extremely bluepill and I was curious. From the information you've given about yourself, you seem high smv, which means you live in a bubble and most of your life experience doesn't translate to "most people". You're not qualified to make these statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:30 PM
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And you are bitter and mean-spirited. What's wrong with having sex? What's wrong with riding the cock carousel? Have you ever even had sex? It feels fucking amazing. You don't even sound like a nice guy, mate. This is like a rich person asking a poor person why they're upset you have millions and they're working at McDonalds. It's kind of a silly premise to ask pretentious questions like that from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:20 PM
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That "the wall" makes no sense in reality and only works on paper. That making sweeping generalizations of people more often than not comes across as faux intellectual and is usually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:15 PM
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Saying being a virgin male is ok is like saying money doesn't lead to happiness. It's a silly, feel-good platitude that is the opposite of realistic. When I was a virgin, I told a handful of women as such because they asked. I'd tell them I didn't wanna talk about it and they urged me for my N count and to trust them it wouldn't matter. When I told them it was 0, you could visually measure the moment attraction and respect died on their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:08 PM
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You'd have to demonstrate how SlutHate is an ideology instead of just a thing that a lot of RedPill types also happen to be on. TRP is a thing; it's an attempt at an underground men's movement. I don't believe SlutHate claims to be anything other than a conglomeration of people who hate sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:43 AM
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Sluthate is a hate cult. TRP is a self help hate cult that espouses specific socio-sexual/socio-economic views and how to navigate the world because of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 10:59 PM
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Competition for who? Misogynists? People who hate women have enough hate to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 08:15 PM
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Whilst I think short men can make up for it fairly easily vs other issues men face, saying height doesn't matter is blatantly unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 08:13 PM
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You're confusing TRP which is a subreddit for a specific models stance on what should be done about several beliefs they feel theyve uncovered and sluthate which is just a sight for hating on women. I don't believe these are similar sites with similar goals or similar premises.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 07:48 PM
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This is a mega stupid question.... "Is water really as wet as we think it is? More at 11..."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/16 04:41 PM
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That might be true for you, but are you really trying to say you're a typical archetype of the modern woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 06:30 PM
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"Anger phase" isn't really a phase at all, and it's more of a misunderstanding of pretty basic, like, highschool level psychology. Their are two types of guys...guys who read RedPill and realize TRP is their salvation, and guys who read TRP and realize RP is their doom. Vocal incels are usually the latter group. It's not a phase, it's simply a logical consequence of an increase in unfortunate knowledge. It's really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 08:19 PM
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Your premise is fundamentally flawed because you're comparing, say, 5/10 women calling themselves incels because they don't put effort into their wardrobe, or wear make up, or do their hair, etc, not being able to get the 7 and 8's that she wants, to a 3 male who's an infinite away from being an alpha physically, educationally, career-wise, socially, etc not being able to get even another 3. These are not the same standards of living, no matter how hard women want to believe they are. The only w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 07:54 PM
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They're victims of disgust when they force their unwanted sexuality on other people. Lol, look at you go...z snaps But they're not victims of hate. No one has violently targeted incels or denied them of their constitutional rights. A victim is a victim. Unfortunately for you, you don't get to declare someone a victim of a mentality by others and then dictate how much they're allowed to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 10:37 PM
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If 80% of the male population who aren't apex males died suddenly tomorrow I don't think women would mind. That's not the same as actively wishing them death.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 07:29 PM
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You can't on one hand claim they're just trying to enjoy a victim complex and on the other hand freely admit that they're a victim of your disgust and annoyance and maintain any intellectual honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 07:27 PM
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A woman is only touching your wiener if they are hot for you. You cannot trick someone into the sack. If they fuck you, they wanted to fuck you and felt you were attractive. This is the same argument people used to use against PUAs and stuff claiming their tricks were "tricking women into bed!". It's nonsensical. The only way you could legitimately trick someone into sex and/or a relationship would be your example, plus getting into an LTR by lying to her about things like kids or whether you wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 06:07 AM
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...you're not bonding, though. You're just fucking people that you hate. No not necessarily. You proposed the question "Do you enjoy being a jerk?" to which to answer was either yes, or no. If the answer was no, you asked what these people are doing with their lives. If being a jerk is the best way to achieve sexual intimacy with another person, that's what people are going to have to do. It doesn't mean you hate them. Some RedPill's may hate women, but they usually hate women because women have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 06:01 AM
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I understood what you were saying perfectly fine... Someone said getting laid isn't as important as getting laid, I said it is to people who can't get laid, you made a comment suggesting asexuals would disagree with my general statement, and I pointed out that asexuals make up an almost statistically irrelvant portion of the western population. It seems more like you just couldn't think of something better to say so you pretended I don't understand what "you've never spoken to an asexual" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 05:48 AM
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Asexuals make up 1.5% of the US population...What are you even saying dude...?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:38 AM
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You can't trick someone into sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 09:24 PM
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Not to people who don't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 09:19 PM
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No, I think blaming it on obesity is actually oddly forgiving and incredibly benevolent towards women from TRP'ers. The modern SMP is nothing more than a totally expected consequence of a free female darwinian sexuality. This would have happened whether all men were chads or lardbodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 05:52 PM
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It's pretty common knowledge that it's been demonstrated nice guys do, in fact, finish last. Googling it brings up quite a lot of hits. I used to have a study that demonstrated women prefer jerks more handily than these two, but I've appeared to have lost it, but here's two... Women prefer narcissistic, machiavellian men over (Nice Guys)<sup>tm Women find responsive, attentive, and considerate men less attractive than men who don't invest emotionally Because if the answer is yes...your problems …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 04:33 PM
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It's 2016, you're not allowed to assume that anymore... tsk tsk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 02:16 PM
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That's not really true. It's a matter of perspective. Women would much prefer an abusive asshole to a nice guy (this has actually been studied) and most of the time, the abusive asshole is attractive enough in concrete ways that allows him to be an abusive asshole and still succeed in the first place. Nice guys generally don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 02:00 PM
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Personality does not = being nice. Nobody has ever said this. I don't know why men think this is what women mean when they say they're drawn to personality. I've already addressed this in my last reply, you've just repeated yourself for nothing, but I'll make a second point because it just came to me and because it's important for anyone reading because I don't imagine you're likely to understand it or have any interest in exploring different or more realistic world views: The idea that personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 11:45 PM
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If the advantage women have in employment is getting more entry level positions as a pretty girl over unattractive men , that's not really some giant advantage is it? Pretty people will always have advantages in those arenas. That's a pretty massive advantage. On what planet is that not an major advantage, especially considering the average man is less attractive than the average woman and most women consider men at least 1 or 2 SMV points lower than they actually rank in reality vs other men? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 11:25 PM
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Women only made up 29% of the labour force in 1950 USA Some generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 10:03 PM
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That poor, valiant, suckered bastard. Vagina is a hell of a drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:43 PM
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Poor Jimmy from IT. Always get's the shaft. He has so much love to give, you monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:34 PM
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Right this is all theory to you and not based on reality. Who's reality? Yours? You spent 3hrs debating us that being a woman didn't help you at all and then changed your mind that being a woman helps you get entry level jobs, which is a huge advantage over men. Most of us don't have the luxury of just using men to get what we want in life. Or even if we do, we choose not to. I thinks it's better to look at reality rather than hypothetically. Ok, so let's unwrap this statement. "Most of us don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:33 PM
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Actually, I kind of am. I'm generally repulsed by the personalities of neckbeard types and gamers. I (generally speaking) hate the personality type that attaches to engineers and 'nerds' of many varieties. And, of/c being in a male dominated environment all the time means most physicists et al are really bad at relating to women and tend to be unintentionally sexist. Personality doesn't mean how nice you are. It means how well you embody the personality traits that the woman in question finds at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:17 PM
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How else are you going to write off large portions of the population because of minor physical imperfections which you're no better than? How are you going to sexually select for the chadliest of chads without your eyes? Then you'll be relegated to feeling around for the 6 pack abs, and you'll never be able to help him with his mirror selfies, and that's just not romantic. This is America god dammit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:07 PM
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You'll find the world is full of exceptions my child.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 09:01 PM
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If it requires no life skills, or education whatsoever, it's not a job, it's a "job". Most shit tier jobs require you to at least have graduated 10th grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 08:57 PM
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I'm not actually suggesting literally every woman in the west turn to stripping...I'm saying in theory, women do not require jobs to get by. In fact, a jobless woman could seduce her way into wealth and come out better than if she had gotten an education and an appropriate job herself. Many women already do this...hook up with pro athletes, celebrities, rich men, etc. That being said, if 50% of the human population stopped working high(er) end jobs, the market would be forced to compensate. We h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 07:37 AM
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Ok, here's my real issue with women who claim this (aka lie)... When women say this, they are usually only ever choosing between a very attractive man, and a man who's still very attractive but not as attractive as guy A, but has a superior personality.... I do not doubt that given two relatively, "in the same general dating league" men, that one's personality can win over a guy at the higher end of the league, but they are almost certainly within the same league... You aren't picking the neckbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 07:34 AM
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That's unfortunate. You need your eyes for all sorts of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 07:30 AM
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If you're asking whether or not women need real jobs, I'd say no, not generally. Stripping makes more than most entry level jobs, and at worst, you can just seduce your way into wealth just fine; find a hapless Nice Guy with a good job... solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:31 AM
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Trust me, Zeus loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:13 AM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:10 AM
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Can you point me towards these female hooman creatures you claim to behave in this fashion? The thousand or so I've met in my 28yrs of life most certainly do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 03:53 AM
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On what planet?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 03:47 AM
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No doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 03:37 AM
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Lolol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 02:42 AM
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The average 5 woman wakes up from her bed she got at Ikea which Bobby, her totally just-friends friend Tyler picked up and drove home for her. She walks to the bathroom, takes a shower and laments the 2 lbs she gained on her 120lb frame despite the 1hr co-ed volleyball she participates in once a week, and applies the effortless beauty she bought off a shelf. 6. She dresses herself in something flattering (6.5) and readies herself for the day. She catches the bus, but oops, forgot her bus pass. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 02:24 AM
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Not really...If you walk like a chad, and talk like a chad, you're a chad... You don't have to fuck a truck load of women to be chad. It's enough that women sploog their panties over you, imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 01:46 AM
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I remember in 9th grade math once (which I failed because our teacher was exactly as you say - a math graduate who was seemingly comfortable memorizing random formulas without knowing what their purpose is) got very angry at this kid who kept asking "why?" And asking for help. "Just do it! THIS IS JUST HOW IT'S DONE!!" Oh Mrs.Martino... sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 10:02 PM
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There are Chad's who have never had sex because their religious and what not... It's not about the sex, it's about the validating. Women do not voluntarily offer their time to the Incel or lower beta, therefore the Incel feels, rightly, worthless. Correcting the issue would require all women not to sexually select for apex males, chads and douchebros which is never going to happen as long as women have a randian free market sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:41 PM
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The British have been studying the impact of gender in the institution of modern education systems in West for some time with strong evidence that the system is unfairly angled towards advancing girls and stunting boys. Putting aside the fact that generally speaking a lot of young boys are medicated or wrongfully diagnosed with ADD for illiciting boy'like behavior, Googling "education system" and "boys" brings up study after study of the disadvantages to being male...and strangely even some femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 08:31 PM
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TRP, as much as I agree with it's assessment of many aspects of our changing SMP and human sexuality, is nothing more than a hate cult. It has no need of role models, and most of the guys who actually need the self improvement aspects aren't going to use arrogant chodes on the internet as their role models.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 11:03 PM
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In what universe was TRP designed for happy, successful guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 09:35 PM
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Being negged should not be fun, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 09:11 PM
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No it doesn't. Having self respect is not synonymous with being immune to rejection, or being affected by being compared to others. Even if it was, self respect is only as deep as one's ability to validate it. Maybe if you're a 11/10, you have unshakable confidence in your supreme, unyielding worth, and maybe that's you, but the rest of us are human and care what others think of us even if we're generally attractive...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:43 PM
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LMAO. Your entire argument is based on such terrible logic...pua came up with neg, pua didn't disappear. Neg is still being used correctly in its appropriate spheres and yet TRP also claims a million feminists using feminsim to mean nothing other than gender equality by law is total bullshit too, so not only are you ignorant and wrong, but your argument creates a slippery slope of wrongness that ripples through the entire manosohere. But you're a cutie. Like a yappy little puppy. I wanna carry y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:35 PM
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No seduction technique works if she thinks you're a loser... duuuurrrrr. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:24 PM
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Really riding that edge, hunh brah?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 08:08 AM
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...Again..."not having a good time" does not mean she crying to her mother on her iPhone in front of you... Usually girls just get quiet and their friend talks to you instead while she turns into a ball of insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 07:58 AM
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You and the rest of your subreddit have the right to be wrong. Negging has been established for the past 40 years as not that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 02:47 AM
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I think you got confused in your snark... you said aren't. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 02:46 AM
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Most women are going to call you out if they sense there is any honesty to your comment. If she is laughing, chances are better she doesn't take you seriously than that she is waffling. I've stated in another comment already that it's possible she was negged if she's laughing nervously or in an obvious attempt to cover up her discomfort, but most women's ego's are strong enough that they don't give a fuck about comments made in a tease. Most women will assume they have your approval unless it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 11:25 PM
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Where as your source is a dudeBro on the internet...? "fag" has several definitions that are still in use, such as british slang for a cigarette. It was a bundle of sticks, and then it was also a derogatory word for a gay person. The word was appropriated and changed. This is not a case of appropriating a word...this is simply a group using the word incorrectly whilst believing their definition is the intended definition, which it is not. PS. I agreed with Neill Strauss; his definition supports …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 11:16 PM
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Self reflection doesn't require emotional hysterics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 11:09 PM
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You don't understand what a neg is: Me thinks it's you who isn't understanding what a neg is... To clarify: Negging is simply a form of teasing/flirting... A neg isn’t an insult. A neg, rather, is merely the kind of comment that someone who was interested in her wouldn’t make, based on the ever so rampant, women are wonderful effect... Negs don’t even have to be “negative” – what they’re really doing is negating your own interest. For example, another classic: “You and I would not get along, we’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:29 PM
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Are you of the belief that a woman's only recourse to not partaking in banter is crying...? lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 10:09 PM
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...What? How is 4Chan posters relationships with other males on shitty 4Chan at all relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:43 PM
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If she's laughing, you have not deflated her ego. At best, you've demonstrated some value in that you're willing to say fake mean things to her, but that is not a neg. How is your version supposed to be effective? What is the chain of events that leads from you genuinely insulting her to getting in her pants? After the comment is delivered, the idea is that she waffles as to whether you meant it to be insulting or not, as it's ambiguous, but at the same time, not a desirable comment to be hearin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:41 PM
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It's success is dependant on the personality of the woman. I've seen women get negged and react badly, and i've seen women get negged and fall madly in love/"like" to the point of being creepy. Some people say it only works if you established already that you are higher value than she is, others say the fact you're willing to say that to a woman is what establishes you as higher value. Try it and see what works for you I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:33 PM
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I think some of the time negs aren't even planned out to be like that, they are just genuine thoughts People with no filter neg people naturally. This would have a similar effect. I know someone who negs people naturally just because he doesn't really care about how people perceive him in return. "I don't normally find myself attracted to black girls, but I like you" isn't a neg, you're right. That would be a validating comment coming from a place of dominance. This should always be how you give…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:25 PM
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Where did you get that idea from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:23 PM
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...I don't believe you are correct, but assuming you are, then RedPill is wrong... I don't have a problem with RP being wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 05:23 PM
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Your argument defeats itself. I think it's self evident that most men are not strong, confident, alphas, therefore, if the average man is a weak meta, who only has access to shit women, the average woman is by definition a shit woman, validating TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 01:01 AM
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No. I don't know where this idea comes from, but people seem to have difficulty understanding what the purpose of a neg actually is. If you're using "neg" in the manner PUA originally coined it, a neg is a statement or comment aimed at a woman, with the goal of undermining her self worth. It's invention was created for 2 reasons, 1) PUA's realized women are more easily seduced if they are insecure and view you as a source of validation and 2) women's self worth/egos are almost always too high an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 12:54 AM
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Ok, let's start over. You're saying TRP claims sexual relations between men and women is a zero sum game, meaning if a person of one gender is successful, person(s) of the other gender are unsuccessful, or perhaps more accurately, their directive is being hindered. You suggest in your OP that this is impossible because nature cannot create an animal whom behaves uncoorperatively with itself. My argument is that TRP is correct that sexual relations between the genders is now zero-sum, and my supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/16 12:48 AM
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RSD Tyler is not an unattractive man at all. I don't know why people use him as an example of ugly men overcoming. He's at least a genetic 5, who dresses nicely, grooms nicely, and isn't overweight. Of course he's going to do fine for himself considering he's studied game for like, 20 yrs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 11:23 PM
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I don't know what RedPill you've been reading, but most of RedPill is insistent the only thing women want is THIS
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 11:05 PM
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Oki doki, I think we're passed having a constructive conversation. Till next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 10:57 PM
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I think you're confusing ideas which is what's confusing you. I'm not saying women know they're being too picky. I wholeheartedly agree women have next to no self-awareness whatsoever. What I'm saying is, I personally think women are aware the men they want have options. I do not think they are aware they are not competitive amongst those options. Therefore, when a 6 woman gets, let's say 20 solicitations for sexual relationships from 5's and 6's, I don't think she thinks she's being picky by re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 03:12 AM
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Though to your main point, I think women want, for a relationship, the douchebro that can be caring too. I mean, sure there's credit to the trope of "ill take the bad boy and change him!", but even through that trope, we can see she wants the hyper masculinity before she wants the support and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 03:03 AM
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Very easily. I think it's plainly obvious that someone is going to be generally happier in life if you give them a partner who's not hot, but supportive and has your back. That doesn't mean that's what women want. Women don't want "supporting and has your back" they want the douchebro with the chisseled chin and arms to die for who probably couldn't care less about her as a person specifically. Using this study, for that premise forgets that people don't know what they need. When the first iPhon…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 10:54 PM
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We'll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 11:09 PM
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Bullshit, I respect PLENTY of men I'd never fuck. I'm absolutely positive you don't respect them as men. Respecting someone as a human with a right to life and liberty is not the same thing as respecting someone as a capable woman, or a man. Apologizing real life to HS makes for a poor analogy. Only if you believe highschool isn't simply a microcommunity that pretty amazingly demonstrates people's true and latent nature. Sure, there are no jocks and cheerleaders in your office park, but the arch…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 09:51 PM
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It's not about pickyness. Women readily admit that the amount of sexual attention they get is meaningless because they don't want it. Go to /r/AskWomen and you see it all the time. I agree that women have no concept of the idea that they're usually shooting far outside their league, but that's a different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 09:34 PM
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Don't see how that's supposed to indicate they don't have low self-esteem. If anything, low inhibition seems to reinforce that notion. It doesn't need to. YOu're making an affirmative claim that strippers have low self esteem, it's up to you to back that up. That being said, an over-inflated ego is strong evidence they do not have low self esteem. High self confidence cannot occupy the same space as other, validated beliefs that support low opinions of oneself. Ie. you cannot believe you're a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:00 PM
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No, that's fine, but you were positing it as if every RP'er wants that. That's not something RP'ers demand; most RP'ers want a woman with a low N count, which is not the same as virginal brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 04:59 PM
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Strippers and other similar types are known for their chronic substance abuse. It's basically a hall-mark of Los self-esteem. Or they're young, hot women, with low inhibition doing what young, hot women with low inhibition do, ie. substance and alcohol abuse. What I'm trying to say is that the difficult times in life make us grow, but since women are given so much leniency and support in their lives, they never get to experience it.\ I agree, but you previously said women have it just as difficu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 04:58 PM
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No, a straw man is purposely interpreting someone's argument poorly so as to be easier to defeat. No one made an argument; I claimed this is what women often say. If you don't agree women say this, you're free to your opinion, but you must have joined the pillsphere, like, 45min ago because it's probably the #1 counter argument since I was in highschool...and I'm 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 06:14 AM
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That's what I figured, but that makes no sense; it's an extremely common female talking point in the pillsphere... And even if I was wrong, that isn't a straw-man...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 04:53 AM
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I can't tell if you are agreeing with me in a weird way or trying to attack me because you think I agree with their argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:23 AM
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... What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:04 AM
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Nothing, it's stupid, and one of the areas in which I disagree with TRP. What they should be saying is that the information is amoral, not the strategies they suggest. One could make the argument, if you're a moral subjectivist, that morals are subjective, but even so, you'd be forced to agree that most of society has fast and hard boundaries on what is generally considered "asshole", rude, or mean spirited behavior, and what it means to treat others badly. If you're operating outside those norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:17 PM
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I don't think anyone debates whether or not it's easier for one gender or the other to obtain casual sex. It's undisputably women that have the easiest access to sex. Women's argument tends more to be that casual sex is meaningless because they want relationships with with the 3.5 apex males in their city, and don't care about anyone else, so they have it just as hard, which I personally think is a borderline retarded argument, but never the less, that's the claim. As far as your actual post, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 11:14 PM
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Me believing your premise is faulty in the first place doesn't need to stop us having a conversation, but suit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:58 PM
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I did understand your point. I've used the same example to back up a similar argument in the past, and it was flawed when I did it too. The mantis isn't a bad example - he's a very good example. The mantis is the species whos' strategy seems clostest to zero-sum - and even then, it isn't. The mantis is a bad example because you are correct that if it were sentient, it would be natural for it to be eaten. There are, however, other examples in life of people's natural tendency to be undesirable, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:57 PM
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I don't see stripping or camwhoring as a particularly wise long term career option. If anything, this lowers their self-esteem immensely in the long run. How? I've never seen a pornstar, stripper, or camwhore who had poor self esteem, and I've actually known quite a few strippers. If anything, their self esteem is over-inflated. What I'm saying is that despite every advantage, women still are having it just as difficult in life... And you're basing this on...? Perhaps, it is because of these adv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:47 PM
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I'd say the biggest issue facing most people is a financial one. Women typically make less than men, which means they have even bigger problems than they do. Nah, women make more than men generally if you consider they offer less to the job like overtime, and work less hours and take more time off yet are paid the same wage. However, this is often alleviated via benevolent sexism (men buying women shit). Can't argue there. Still, the point stands. A lot of insecurity arises out of financial desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 07:31 PM
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You are so delusional it's not even funny. How can you honestly think that 50% of the population have no real problems. Other than universal unfortunateness like having shitty parents, or getting cancer or something, no, women have no real problems in life, at least none that aren't more alleviated than men's via benevolent sexism. Comparing women's issues to men's issues is like comparing your iPhone getting slower after the newest iOS update to child soldiers in Africa. Two completely differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:40 AM
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There was no loss of direction in this comment... In fact my reply is almost entirely reactionary to yours. If you feel the conversation is taking a tangent, steer it back on course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 02:34 AM
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If you are suggesting that women put work into keeping relationships active, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you. If you are suggesting women create relationships via the use of hte word "cultivate" (meaning to acquire, prepare, or promote) then no, that is a gross untruth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:38 AM
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First, how are you so certain things like common decency, loyalty, and respect won't be reciprocated? Because the people going to the redpill are there because they've lived 20'something years of it not being reciprocated?? Women don't generally respect men they don't respect AS men, ie. fuckworthy. The truth is you can't be certain that it will be reciprocated anymore than you can be certain that it won't be reciprocated. Put a cheerleader in a room with a computer dork, and I would bet money o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:20 AM
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Ok, well then you're going to find it a lot harder, but there are some guys out there who'd be fine with having little sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:00 AM
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And yet you will drown in a river of benevolent sexism. Having crappy parents sucks, but that's not fixable. Having no friends is fixable; figure out what about you disagreeable and fix it. Relationships are purely an extension of having no friends. If you have a vagina, are younger than 50, and aren't grossly overweight, you should have no problem picking pretty much any man you choose for companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:56 PM
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As a woman, you are in the extremely fortunate position to never lose in life, as long as you're pleasant to look at and have an agreeable attitude. If RP stresses you out and brings negativity into your life, unsubscribe, leave the subreddit(s) and go live your life instead and 9 times out of 10, you'll be perfectly fine. I really don't understand why any women at all are particularly interested in the pillsphere considering A) they usually do not agree with it, B) it causes them moral anguish,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:50 PM
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...wut
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:45 PM
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For the umpteenth time: if people who partook in said circle jerk sub were not of similar belief systems, they wouldn't be participating in your circlejerk sub. It's plainly obvious you all have identical beliefs and similar reservations about why RP is bad and/or inneffective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:44 PM
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No they don't. Women are offered relationships. That is not the same thing as cultivating a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:36 PM
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Your claim was that unattractive people (women as I understood it) had fewer partners because they "latched onto" whoever they could get. I am saying that the study you referenced doesn't support that theory. No, my claim was that unattractive people had fewer options therefore they end up taking what they can get. "Unattractive people have fewer options because they latched onto one person" is a very different argument. Except it's not supported by your study, is it? If it's the one I think you…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:17 PM
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In most species of mantis, the male puts up a cursory fight to check the female's fitness level, then throws himself into her jaws. It is willing, because it increases the chances of his genes surviving & propogating. Being eaten is a win. Ok, fair enough, Mantis was a bad example, nevertheless, I'm sure if the mantis were sentient, it would prefer to not be eaten in the same fashion most women prefer not to give natural births. In any event, you understood my point. I think you're misunderstand…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:08 PM
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Usually not. TRP is at the end of the day, snake oil, as in, it's unlikely the men who really need it will ever get to point of transcending their original flaws, but it's better than nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 11:11 PM
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So what are we doing? Referencing statistics only when they are convenient? I'm not even asking for a new study. Your claimed studies that show partners increasing at an inverse rate to a woman's attractiveness doesn't show that they dip back down to low numbers once we get to a certain level of unattractiveness, do they? Tut, tut. Inconsistency is so beta! The original statement you challenged was "unattractive people have less options and get with whoever takes them". It is unreasonable for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:53 PM
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I don't know if you're on a phone or something, but the missing grammar makes it very hard to follow what you're saying. I don't think TRPs are after a docile, subservient person; they simply want someone who respects their masculinity. There are women who are my superiors at work who will ask me what to do about work and/or life problems not because they're docile, but because they're women. Women prefer to be led than lead. Dude mislabeling on pornhub isn't shocking I went on pornhub for some …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:32 PM
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"Middle grounds are hard and it's easier to get what I want by being abusive" sounds like a shit way to approach any relationship or any problem. And yes, that's me making a moral argument. I don't have issues with moral arguments. However this argument reasserts a premise that my write up already touched on; why choose the hard path out of altruism for people who were not, and most certainly will not reciprocate when you have the easy path which offers punishment to those same people for their …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:08 PM
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as i understand it TRP isnt about taking away sexual power from women but actually about learning how to best serve the all-mighty powerful lord, ie woman, to get into her pants. Because TRP serves woman the thing she wants most - an attractive alpha. TRP tells men to literally disregard everything they are and become someone else so that they appeal to women. How is that taking sexual power from women? That would be the equivolent argument of saying the crack dealer is at the mercy of the crack…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:04 PM
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This is really ironic because it seems you are desperate to fit this story into your preconceived narrative. Not really. The fact that I personally believe women's words mean nothing is not even really relevant. Your argument(s) are attempting to have people believe a woman saying something in, let's say January, and that woman woman doing something in, let's say, November, had not been affected by other factors within those 10 months whatsoever. Which is a horrible argument. It sounds great on …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:00 PM
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By all means, explain to me how someone with poor common sense, wordly knowledge, or the ability to navigate every day life can also be deemed intelligent because they're good at school by any other metric than strict definition. Im genuinely curious how you rationalize this belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 09:31 PM
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What she did was break up with 2 guys. We have 0 context on the interaction and you're assuming there was no other qualifying factors involved, and that she woke up one day and peaced out with no warning. Do you think these guys showed her pics of who they wanna look like on tuesday, and they were The Rock by thursday? Don't be an idiot. No one does this. Your entire argument is a square pipe dream you desperately want to fit into the round hole because it sounds really "case closed" on paper. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 11:27 PM
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Back atcha champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 11:00 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4mohoh/have_you_ever_known_a_guy_who_was_rejected_in/d3xb5d6
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 10:59 PM
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Genuinely interesting post. I take issue with quite a lot of it though. You've written a lot "expose" of your view, if you will, but a lot of your views beg greater questions. In order to stop being a victim, you have to victimize women. TRP quickly devolves into teaching men to be abusers and also teaches that being an abuser is the best possible thing you can do. They say safe bet is that life is zero sum. If someone wins with you, you must be losing. In order for you to win, she must lose. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 10:50 PM
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but the opinion that she voiced, not liking ripped guys, is what led to the decline in attraction We don't know that. her words and actions were consistent, Only if you take on face value what she said, which we can't. and i see no lack of self-awareness. Only if you take on face value what she said, which we can't. Look, if she says "I don't find that attractive" and he looks like that and then she breaks up with him, we cannot formally assume it's purely because he changed his body, which is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 10:08 PM
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Being a virgin bride is not the same thing as being a 1 n-count wife Demonstrate this. You have statistical proof of this? Who would ever conduct proof of this? Don't be unreasonable for the sake of being unreasonable. It's common sense that unattractive people with no options are naturally going to shack up and keep the one option that comes along. Again, not talking virgin brides. I am talking basic girl game. An average girl present herself well, finds a nice boy and forms an emotional attach…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 09:59 PM
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Book smarts means very little. The smartest book smart woman I've yet met (who was also a very attractive asian girl) was a bumbling idiot and probably the stupidest person I've ever come across in life, in actual life. Go to any nursing or pre-med university program and it's a sea of bleach blonde hair and fake tanner. But I'll read the study after my dinner in the interest of fairness and intellectual honesty. Edit: good genes in looks also do not necessitate good genes in intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 09:41 PM
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The funny thing is that in both cases they would show her pictures of men from fittness magazines saying that was their aim and she would say over and over again 'I find that too much/not attractive' and they would outright say that they didn't believe her. They shouldn't have. Never listen to what a woman says, only what she does. They really couldn't have figured she'd break up with them. People do badly with change, any change, and she could hvae just as easily had sex with them one night and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 07:40 PM
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Good looking people are, generally, stupid. Stereotypes exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 07:36 PM
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No. I have known a lot of the opposite actually; guys getting really beefcake and in turn seeing a steep increase in female attention. I've had a female friend claim she thought a massive body builder guy at work was disgusting, but he never went for her so I can't honestly say whether she would have fucked him anyway if he had game.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 07:29 PM
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I'm not sure why you think holding onto your virginity for husband material while feverishly cataloguing sex acts from cheesy online erotica you will partake in with said husband is reserved for super hot chicks? Because statistics say so. The only women who do not partake in sex before marriage are either the highly devout religious minority, the very unattractive who latch on to whatever one option they have, or the otherworldly attractive who have enough leverage and social power to never par…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 07:15 PM
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I never said they wouldn't want attention I said they would catch on to abusive shit and red flags faster then an inexperienced one would most 22 years have no experience. I would say a 22 yr old woman has tons of experience, she just either doesn't care, or hasn't actually hit a point in her life in which self-reflection is necessary. This conversation started because you suggest that the only reason TRP is effective is because immature women reward it. If you agree TRP works, we are in agreeme…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 06:51 PM
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This concept is the basis for a lot of other Red Pill conclusions. The thing is, it doesn't make any logical sense. If relationships were a zero-sum game, they wouldn't have evolved. Your premise defeats itself from the get-go as many animals have zero-sum sexuality and flourish, like, say a Mantis who impregnates a female and is murdered and consumed. The woman wins and the man (obviously) loses. We have evolved to walk away from situations where we lose more than we gain No we haven't; we have…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 05:22 PM
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Controlling and verbally dismissive? You'll get nexted instantly by a girl with a dad who sends her flowers on Valentine's Day and a shot gun promised to be used on any man who disrespects her. Because that is so common? Lol that sounds like the plot of slapstick romcom. The girls who treasure monogamy and day dream about the day they get to have crazy sex with their husband who is the only man they've had sex with are holding out for someone better. I think ive kind if come to a realization tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 04:43 PM
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Exactly you guys don't want women who have had experience because they're more likely to catch onto to shit You're misattributed pure incompatibility in favour of the belief women are simply too smart. This is not the case. An older woman would love the attention the 22yr olds are getting. The whole trope of older women being jealous of younger women who they have to compete with is a socio-sexual trope for a reason. TRP seems to enjoy BDSM I've seen plenty of posts on chocking and dominance in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 04:12 PM
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Right, calling out out bigotry isn't hate speech. What bluepillers do is not calling out bigotry. Ita hate speech. If you want to call out bigotry, make a subreddit devoted to people willing to invest the time and effort to debunk the redpill and discuss in good faith why it's misguided, hateful, and dangerous. Sitting around your drum circle taking turns peelings strips off the incels, forever alones and just about anyone who isn't a a sexually successful, >24 woman is hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 03:14 PM
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The reason why so many girls are into from the TRP perspective is because they act in ways that attract girls like that examples not going after older women since they're more likely to catch onto it from experience sexually experienced women they're also more likely to catch onto it as well. That makes sense to me...that doesn't seem malevolent. Why would you expect a man to go after a woman significantly older than himself? Why would you expect him to go after a women in which his powers of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 03:10 PM
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You've said nothing if value in this paragraph. All you've told me in response is a vague suggestion that women don't like men who self improve which sounds more like an attempt to insult people for no reason than an honest attempt at a constructive dialogue. I would counter argue women as a collective dont give two shits how or when you became attractive as long as you're atractive. The idea that women are magically immune to the throws of attractive men because they had a dad, a degree, and ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 03:04 PM
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Why would emotional abuse be a bad thing if women show a strong preference for it over other types of male Archetypes? Or perhaps value other qualities above and beyond the scope of emotional abuse emotional abusive men tend to have and other men do not. What you need to do to get dates depend son what you like This is a nebulous statement. Can you make an actual position from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 02:25 PM
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Women absolutely love redpillers...biology doesn't care about the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 02:19 PM
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Writig Hatespeech aimed at hateful people is hate speech....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 02:06 PM
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So, youre telling me if you took TRP, removed all allusions to women being children, but kept everything else, TRP would be AOK with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 02:04 PM
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The mods deleting my comment without my permission is now proof I "cannot take the heat"? That doesn't even make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 09:37 PM
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I would never delete that comment... a mod removed it.. duuurr
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:39 PM
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And dude, if you've felt someone's dick, you don't need visual confirmation to know it's small. Feeling is enough to get an accurate gauge on what it's like. Making his argument requires ignoring so many qualifying factors that this conversation is no longer worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:35 PM
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That's really more of a criticism of the ineffectiveness of her argument and her general thought process than a personal attack. If it was a personal attack it would not have any qualifiers...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:33 PM
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No, people just has shit reading-comprehension, lol. Him being a dick is not relevant at all because she was going to break up with him for BOTH reasons anyway. /u/xorchids specifically says multiple times in this thread she was going to ditch him regardless... https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4mdtj3/question_to_all_women_shaming_small_penis_men/d3v7xel So no, it's not even remotely relevant. In fact, I'd posit if he had a great dick she'd probably be far less likely to leave h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:20 PM
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No one said you weren't allowed to have preferences, I said what you did with and about it was not the behavior of someone of class.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:15 PM
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This is a paragraphs worth of straw man. Please read my argument properly before responding... It was never claimed the guy had a microdick, it was never claimed size doesn't matter, and it was never claimed breaking up with someone for a preference was bad on it's face.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:12 PM
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We do not know he had a small dick; she suspects he had a small dick because she wasn't impressed his feeling him up over his pants... This is not "classy" behavior. An argument could be made that having strong preferences for penis size isn't classy either, but that's a whole nother argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:06 PM
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That was not a personal attack. Please read properly before throwing your mod weiner around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 08:03 PM
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"I don't see anything wrong with robbing a bank so long as the police don't catch me..." is a retarded maxim to live by. That's like 5yr old logic, girl. Putting aside the fact that you're attempting to defend the concept of hurting people's feelings purely because you can and want to, equating something unchangeable like penis size is not the same as body size, which is changeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 12:57 AM
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The average human male penis. Malnourishment doesn't change your penis size and even if it did, it's being averaged against black men from the same areas who also have the largest penis'.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 12:54 AM
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Nothing Xorchids said was a reflection of her behaviour or treatment of others Yes there was. She specifically stated she broke up with someone because she suspected their penis was small without having ever seen it. I would most certainly not deem a woman of "class" someone who breaks up with people for suspicions of their body parts... the notion on it's face is obnoxious, the same way I would not consider a man who breaks up with a woman because he suspects he won't like her nipples a man of …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:58 PM
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sounds like she was being considerate, perhaps to a higher degree than he deserved since he sounds like he was unkind Him being a dick wasn't really relevant. i don't think there's any definition of class or classy that involves never breaking up with someone or turning them down for anything. Was never a position which was claimed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:55 PM
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don't think it's a worse thing to joke about then being fat. Then you'd be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:50 PM
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The average male penis size is 5.45". If your dick is 5", you're slightly smaller than the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 10:49 PM
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That's such a straw man I'm not even replying to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 09:10 PM
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To a degree, yes. Do you think being "classy" has nothing to do with your behavior, beliefs, and treatment of others....?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 08:42 PM
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She said she broke up with him for being a dick. "I would have broken up with him for his microdick" is secondary. Which is why I'd say it's not relevant. If it wasn't his attitude it was his penis size. She's being honest here in an anon discussion forum; she wasn't going around shitting on his name IRL. That should be commended because we need more for honest/real discussions. No she shouldnt. No one should be commended for saying they dont like small dicks. You don't get a gold star for havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 08:38 PM
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Then fuck away.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 11:16 PM
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Their logic not support their conclusion. I'll agree that the more attractive a woman is, the less sex she is having, but that does not mean she's locking commitment; it could just as easily be explained that she simply has a much smaller pool to choose from. A 6 has a lot more partners she can fuck and feel good about the next morning than an 8, and an 8 could still be having as much casual sex as she can relative to her SMV as the 6 is having... Ie. a 6 will be propositioned for sex 10 times i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 11:06 PM
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That's a bad dichotomy for a lot of reasons. Political Science Degrees don't have existential angst attached to them You aren't helping anyone by hanging around; that's what the teacher is for It's not a venue in which anyone is interested in hearing your opinions or knowledge because they trust their teacher more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 10:54 PM
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I'd have to disagree. Back in the days of PUA, guys like RSDTyler (TylerDurden) used to post to seduction and write reports. He was far more successful than any man probably posting on this subreddit at getting women, and he still wanted that feeling of male awe. I imagine there are quite a few RedPills who stick around because of #TeamMan sentiment regardless of their success, but in general, sure, I'm sure lots of them are omega males.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 10:53 PM
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One of the first things you learn as a man who actively puts thought into going after women is to ignore the feeling and acknowledgement that she finds you unattractive/a poor male specimen/or that you're unworthy of her. Yes, that is what a rejection means. No, do not dwell on it. You may find that there are perks from being agreeable after a rejection, like, having her suggest you to someone else, or having her change her mind when she sees you not acting desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 10:51 PM
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I think there is validity to the idea that women often don't try enough dating, or sex to know what they actually like, or find fulfilling. However, I also do believe a woman's N count matters, and a woman with a high(er) sexual partner count is a worse option for relationships, so it's a fine line. Don't just fuck around to fuck around IMO, but sure, open some horizons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 10:48 PM
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Well, according to wikipedia 2015 population statistics, the USA also has 300% more people, so a 20% increase in rape would not necessarily surprise me on paper. That being said, the whole 1 in 5 rapes on college campus thing has been debunked a million years ago, and even by Christina Hoff Summers herself on multiple occasions. It relies on second parties reinterpreting events to fit a narrative that the "victim" themselves didn't actually feel or consider. On top of that, sexual assault and ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:06 AM
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This is one of the reasons we have mods from all pill colors - to keep ourselves in check. That's a nice theory, but it doesn't work in practice. An inside group, regardless of their personal dispositions towards topics are more likely to acquiesce, cater, or be generally agreeable and side with their colleagues than they are with a random stranger posting a reddit post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 01:15 AM
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Reddit is an autocracy, in which moderation teams have complete power, and the general user has pretty much none. It takes a person of significant character to run a pill subreddit and not be unfair, bias, and other such things. It would be unreasonable to assume the mods of /r/PurplePillDebate are above their feelings. That being said, your title was assuming RP is true, and was asking RP's an "insider's question" so I can see how they have justified removing your question, albeit in my persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 01:09 AM
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Who was asking you to feel bad for them? We were discussing whether it is hard or easy to fix incelism. It is objectively not easy. You getting a nose job doesn't really mean anything. Incelism isn't fixed with a nose job.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 03:21 AM
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In my time in this community, I have come to the realization that almost no one has any idea what they mean because the term(s) have been overly narrowed by systemizing oriented people mostly for the purposes of ingratiating themselves towards others they wish to impress, and then re-expanded by people who want to consider the terms generally for the purposes of conversation, and then pushed back again by systemizers who think the previous people are losers simply trying to benefit from redefini…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 02:56 AM
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why cant they lose weight eschew nerd interests take accutane and get plastic surgery? One, plastic surgery is quite the exaggeration of a suggestion and it's not a guarantee you'll look net positive. Lots of celebrities get plastic surgery and look significantly worse and they can certainly afford a better doctor than an incel can. It's also very expensive. Two, losing weight is an extreme lifestyle change that requires you to basically be a different human being, as well as being extremely ext…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/16 02:49 AM
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For context, I hate feminism and feminists, however, health is not "female culture". If you believe someone is paying you 77 cents for every 1 dollar someone else makes, that's a socio-political issue. BLM is trying to change white people because they believe whites are committing an injustice, same as feminists. The issue is not, as far as they are concerned, self imposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:54 PM
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concepts about the world dont track reality Such as? how me an incel who 1. got fit, 2. learned grooming, 3. eschewed SMV destroying interests for SMV enhancing ones 4. got plastic surgery, 5. took accutane and STILL couldn't get laid and i will call him an incel If they could do any of those things, they wouldn't be incel. Learning to groom is the only realistic thing you've listed, but most people know how to groom themselves. Incels aren't purely a band of 500lb'ers smelling of dorito dust wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:47 PM
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You've provided no proof or argument as to whether this world view is historically accurate, or if actual numbers aren't available, a sociological argument for it's likely occurrence. There's nothing to discuss. Being unmarried doesn't make you incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:12 PM
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It wouldn't change the SMP at all. Most of the clientelle of legal prostitution would be men of low value, which is great for them, but not what they want; to be voluntarily chosen amongst other options as a woman's(of acceptable quality's) personal choice. Chads don't require prostitutes, and betas may use prostitutes here and there, but it wouldn't actively change much. The key to the SMP is volition, not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:08 PM
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people (expecially men) start revolutions and violent conflicts as a competition between different groups to get resource and the two basic resources are food and sex. Well, right off the start, this is not accurate. Sure, if you cut people off from food, there will be conflict, but sex does not often cause revolution and people are more than capable of starting revolts for political beliefs, social beliefs, economic beliefs, amongst other things. you may think it's because of religious issues, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 06:04 PM
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Feminism isn't concerned with self improvement because they're a socio-political movement. That's kind of like asking why the BlackLivesMatter people aren't trying to cure cancer. Sure, you could ask why feminists don't think being healthy is important to... feminists (or humans), but they believe being a woman is the first and foremost factor in...anything, so, it isn't really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 05:53 PM
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You can't pay someone to love you. You can pay for sex. By not paying for sex incels are voluntarily celibate. OK incels who can't scrape a couple $100 together for an escort are truly incel You could, in theory, pay someone to be around you so often you'd hope they eventually come to love you, which is basically all low(er) SMV people are doing anyway. The word "involuntary" is precluded by the ability to pay. If someone was hungry, had 20$ and there was a food store , you couldn't say he was "…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 04:12 PM
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Celibate means a person is not partaking in sexual relations. You can pay someone to do anything for you, which means by that logic no one is in a state of lacking anything because the option to pay is always present (considering the price paid and it's affordability is being ignored).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 05:32 AM
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I don't think the concept of mansplaining has anything to do with some evolutionary bio-truth, I think it is purely a cause of annoyance for women to have their experiences reframed. Whether or not you think the experience itself requires reframing is a different argument, but I think the concept has only gained ground because women control the social narrative. If you attempting to coin "womansplaining", you'd be hard pressed. It's essentially a social bullying tactic to dismiss criticism of un…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 04:50 AM
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Prostitution is not equivalent to picking voluntary sexual partners. Incels want appreciation/respect, not bare sex. Your hand would suffice if all anyone wanted was to get off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 04:43 AM
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Then why would hating women be relevant at all? You're entire premise is loving women = success. By saying you can do asshole game whether you love or hate women implies your premise is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/16 04:42 AM
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Because it's not a logically coherent concept. You're spouting nebulous platitudes. Liking women has nothing to do with getting or not getting women. If you inspire attraction, you will get women. If anything, liking women more often leads to pedestalization which decreases sexual prospects. Disliking women more often leads to aloofness and other attractive "Chad" and "asshole game" traits that women love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 09:12 PM
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No you aren't. Unless youre husband was the only man you could have gotten because you had no other sexual prospect, you cannot be an Incel. Women, by definition can not be Incel except in strange cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 09:08 PM
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I've known him since grade 9...this was when we has in his twenties...nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 09:02 PM
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This is mostly bluepill, neo-feminist platitude bullshit in my opinion. Most of the womanizers I've known in my life have either despised women's or felt they asrent worth much as a collective. My jock Chad friend from high school actually went celibate for a year because he fucked so many girls the year before he felt women were so lame they could offer nothing but sex. The newest hire at my work is the first Chad I've met who genuinely enjoys and respects women to a greater degree than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 08:36 PM
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No, an Incel means they are involuntarily celibate, meaning they have no power of choice. An Incel can have had sex yesterday and still be Incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 08:06 PM
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I have no real idea what you're talking about. Gamma is a term only a few manosphere types use. As far as Reddit is concerned, there's alpha, beta, omega and some people disagree with who qualifies for each category.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 08:00 PM
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Most people manage to get laid at least once. That is not synonymous with the idea that you have a power of choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 06:46 PM
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The sexual liberation of women have profitted men more than women. How do you figure this? More men with nothing are certainly not profiting more than more men previously having something. I don't think women's partner counts are hurting women in terms of the SMP; I think more women are falling for the trap of believing they can seduce the next chad into commitment...no? Ok, he was a jerk...the next one...no? Ok, he was an asshole, the next one...etc. Ultimately chad is like cheesecake; it may g…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 07:21 AM
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I disagree. For example, I have never had romantic feelings for obese and unattractive women. Not having had romantic feelings for an obese woman doesn't mean you could not possibly form an emotional connection to one in another capacity, be it appreciation, or friendship. And also, you're right, I should have been more specific. "Value" is too vague. What I meant is that women can develop romantic feelings for beta males, even though they may not be extremely sexually attracted to them. Women l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 02:07 AM
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Women's sexual liberation is perhaps the single best thing to happen to Chad in a long time. It's perhaps the single worst thing to happen to beta bill in a long time. With the increased sexual liberation of women's sexuality, comes an increase in social Darwinism and a decrease of collectivist ideals. So, where previously women were shamed for being sluts, and encouraged to find a good man to settle down with (good being a stable, mentally healthy, care-giving and providing man), now, they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:27 AM
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Value is perhaps not a great word to be using because you can value almost anything for some reason or another. I'm sure women value beta males in some way, perhaps as emotional supports, or dependable betabux's, but as far as sexual gratification goes, no, women do not value beta males. Even women who profess to prefer beta males over alpha males for sexual relationships only tend to do so because they've deemed the negative aspects of alphas not a worthwhile trade off, but because they actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/16 01:15 AM
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