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Kind of similar to MLK he was a great man who kept the same message for about 12 years. He never waivered no matter what was going on. When he could've made a change to the message and adapted but decided against it. Someone hasn't read up on their african american history. While his central philosophy remained approximate, it did change, when presented with newer circumstances, and as he explored the requirements for african american emancipation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 10:59 PM
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Naw, a good man doesn't need to change for anyone or do things for anyone. He follows the rules and does what is needed and isn't harming anyone. A good man is capable and is willing to change. Men who lack adaptivity, and lack the ability to learn, inevitably become bad men when the world changes around them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 11:48 PM
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being a good person in general means helping others. Man or woman. If you see an opportunity to help people, and are a good person: you help them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 01:06 AM
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Being a good man means being intellectually proficient, adaptive, and being able to take intiative while also being able to healthily regulatory. It means taking the initiative to do good for others. Just like what it means to be good for ANY person in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 12:33 AM
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being incapable of change due to hubris and rigidity is not the sign of a good man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:58 AM
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no. Fuck no. Thats some stupid logic built by misperceptions on what being a nice person means and confirmation bias when they fail because the women see through the act
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 02:57 AM
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"anti-men" lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:20 AM
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its not worth it to chase. Idk. I don't like being the one trying to please the other person to get a sliver of a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:19 AM
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Never understood why men have vaginal envy, when the cost of having a vagina is so high, plus the female orgasm doesn't seems to be described as a tickling sensation . Not just that, but it takes extremely long to actually orgasm, and if clitoral pleasure anything like rubbing the male version of the clit (the penile head) then that shit must be mad uncomfortable too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:58 AM
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next news today: the sky is blue, the grass is green, and Trump hasn't released the Epstein files News at 8
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:57 AM
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gen-z men tend to be shameless. Just because they don't talk to women in public doesn;t mean they aren't brazen. The internet has given a lot of gen-z men stupid ideas of how to act in public. Like you have men actively making pedo jokes out in the open these days (shit you not this happened yesterday), and not caring at all that they are in a public space
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 07:49 AM
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No. Modern men have become EXTREMLY immature, impulsive, lacking in public conduct, and are extremely brazen, and misogynistic around women, and in general in public. Their fathers were more mature, and have better public etiquette (though etiquette back then didn't matter since women NEEDED men back in the day)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:51 AM
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its not that women desire a surplus. its the fact that modern men at the moment are a net negative. Women don't crave the patriarchy. They crave maturity and adeptness. Something this current generation is notorious for lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:51 AM
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Sexual intimacy is not just about pleasure it is deeply tied to self-worth, confidence, and emotional stability. So maybe we should fix THIS and try to deconstruct it so that men don't rely on sexual intimacy for self-worth, and don't need women to live a happy life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:52 AM
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So basically: men are so dangerous...they are threats even to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:05 AM
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I love arguing. Thats why i play devils advocate. On what subjects do i play devils advocate for and which ones am i being legitimate on? You'll never know...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 12:53 AM
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I don't need to know your position in life to know that you can take initiative for yourself, diagnose why you live a pathetic life, and try and turn that shit around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:25 AM
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the cops are notoriously bad at protecting victims lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:55 AM
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men's value is not around the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:31 AM
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Now what can this dude pull? He can better his social skills for one, and he can go to the gym if he is fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:29 AM
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then stop acting pathetic and wallowing in your self pitty and do something to fix yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:27 AM
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answer: don't give any man a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 04:32 AM
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Yes but many women do desire hookups from time-to-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:39 AM
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Nah they still love dark triad man, whatever age they are, they love a man who never submits to anyone. i didn't just pull this out of thin air buddy Nah they do hold it, you probably dont interact with young people. I am 17. try again lmao. Anti social and emotional maturity goes out the mud when you have one of those 3 traits, those are not a issue to attract women If you are anti-social, you don't even approach those women, and fail at every turn to attract them without hurting both parties i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:32 AM
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Dark triad traits are only desired among very very young women (fresh out of high school, fresh into college young), but as they mature they start to shed off said desire due to them seeing how toxic these traits are. most young men dating don't hold any of the same traits especially physically due to women being able to pick and choose more, and thus allowing them to express personal preference in looks Yes there is one consistent trait i see among young men: being anti-social, and lacking emot…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:43 PM
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Sure, some men desire meaningless sex, but not all the time, nor as a default. Desires and wants change all the time. Just like how a woman can at seek out a hook-up, while later desiring a LTR Most men will usually find the idea of being seen as boyfriend material or husband material as gratifying, not insulting. Most do at the end of the day just want intimacy wherever that can be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:32 PM
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Different men want different things. Separate men say separate things. The men saying they only want sex, and that they can't survive without it, are different from the men who find the idea that "men only want sex" as untrue and condescending
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:24 PM
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so let me get this straight: You are using COMEDY TROPES as your base of evidence? Be deadass right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:19 PM
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except the 80/20 rule falls flat on it's ass when it comes to dating. if only the top 20% of men are dating and fucking, then we'd see some patterns among those men for why they are selected, and most men would be single. But most men are in relationships, and the men you see in relationships are too diverse to have any pattern beyond them being men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:17 PM
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using men from a subreddit full of redpills, and blackpills as your pool of evidence is wild work
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:08 PM
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Different men say different things though, and want different things right? We aren't collectivistic in opinion. Honestly don't pay attention to guys who think they can speak objectively for all men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:07 PM
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Its different from man to man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:03 PM
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The fact that men don't want to be perceived and bf/husband material I swear to god this idea just spawned out of nowhere in the past 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:02 PM
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objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:39 AM
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Men and women are not the same. We are not interchangeable. Biological women don’t gain denser bones, larger hearts and greater grip strength because a culture wants them to have it. We are talking about tendencies here, not biology. Ofc they don't but this is inconsequential considering we have tools and other innovations that render these biological limitations for women irrelevant. we are interchangeable in the modern day in terms of professions, and roles in society between homemaker & bread…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:03 PM
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biology trumps social construction Biology is merely the building blocks that social construction utilizes when creating a societal system and pattern You're not socially constructing risk taking tendencies out of someone. Actually yes. yes it absolutely is socialized. Risk-taking tendencies in people, especially boys are often socialized through cultural norms that associate masculinity with bravery, independence, and dominance. From a young age, boys are encouraged through media, peer interact…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 03:47 PM
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Thus, biology may influence tendencies, but social instruction, cultural norms, and situational context are far more decisive in shaping actual behavior. Humans are not merely biological organisms; we are meaning-makers embedded in complex social systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:35 PM
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Yeah, except individuals gain different skillsets and can attain skillsets regardless of their sex. Them being called societal roles isn't really important since that concept is also a social idea. That's why they differ so much from culture to culture
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:15 PM
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it does. How you are raised and the social environment it takes place in influences your preferences. When you primarily see that type of dynamic in people you come to expect that at an early age. That expectation soon becomes a preference, which influences your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:52 PM
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biology has nothing to do with a sociological subject such as gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:49 PM
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hard to date someone whose only there for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:47 PM
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Nobody is concerned about men not marrying. This is just about relationships in general
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:46 PM
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women aren't the ones producing those dummy. Its men in charge who are producing an curating it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:45 PM
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Modern women approach dating in a way that would make a eugenicist blush, all this talk of “eggs are precious, sperm is cheap” <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:43 PM
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Dating is a relationship for romantic purposes. Mating is just courtship and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:36 PM
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dating. not mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:00 AM
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<image> step away from the keyboard and get off the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:59 AM
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men being horny all the time is a myth ngl. Its a sign of lack of self control and impulsivity
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:53 AM
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Only at age 30 i realized girls liked me since age 13, it's just that I thought they were making fun of me and rejected them. Now it's my worst trauma. Sounds like a problem specific to you. My parents also advocated for minors not to have sexual experience. The result is no grandchildren. False causation fallacy. Because no matter the looks (women like me first on dating apps), a woman is unlikely to have non-transactional sex with a traumatized autist. Again: sounds like a problem specific to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 12:05 AM
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I have. If you think women are hypercomplex compared to men, it just shows how much you don't understand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 11:55 PM
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I'm not going into the dating sphere at such a turbulent and unstable stage in my life. I will be focusing completly on my major, and see after freshmen year, if i have room for a dating life during such endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 11:53 PM
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This is just the way men are, we like simple things Nope. Us men are just as complex as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:06 AM
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Idk if it can taste that good bro
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:04 AM
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I don't have siblings, and all my cousins are 30 and i'm 17 (my parents adopted me)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:59 AM
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Wtf are you advocating for? Minors to get into relationships that have more chances to turn toxic during that period of life (adolecence) MINORS TO HAVE SEXUAL EXPERIENCE???
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:57 AM
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you sweet summer child
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:33 PM
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The father often only cared about status of the individual. So if the man was an abusive shitstain (which they often were) it wouldn't matter. Fathers honestly didn't care that much about their daughters as much as they cared about the status that would come with shipping their daughter off with the best they can get for familial affiliations. If the father couldn't find a noble man, he'd just do anything he could to ship his daughter out as thats how fathers viewed their daughters back then. pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:29 PM
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slut shaming is at an all time high bro, wtf are you on?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:54 PM
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When women were seen as property and had no say in marriage. Which was (sadly) relatively recent comparing how long its been since we ended it vs how long we have done it. across many societies tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:52 PM
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Modern day Women are encouraged to be sexually active and slutshaming isn’t considered okay anymore Obviously has only been on reddit when it comes to social media uses it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:40 PM
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There should be a 5 year age gap legal limit past the age of 18
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:39 PM
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Except the Nice Guy is WRONG lmao. They don't go for the popular jocks. Have you seen the average boyfriend these days? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:38 PM
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most people sadly take issue with female sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:37 PM
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bro saying margo robby looks in her 40s is clear indication you haven't seen real women who are 30 in years
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:34 PM
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Not really. Most men just had to ask the father his hand and boom, the daughter was shipped his way. In all honesty can we just admit the status quo sucks balls and try and change it rather than being "it is what it is"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:33 PM
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no? Wtf type question? Both my fathers (i have 2 platonic co-guardians) are black.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:22 PM
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"You're the man, you're supposed to lead/approach/etc." Only trad twitter bluecheck plants are saying this. But if society is going to come down on men for trying to box women into their gender roles, it needs to do the same for women who try to pressure men into playing male gender roles. It literally has. Unless you live in a conservative country like, HYPER conservatives, you won't find these women irl, and only on vocal social media netizens Its primarily men saying "you need to lead or she'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:23 AM
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never have dated. I'm still in high school and am waiting until my sophomore year of college to consider whether i want to date in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:59 AM
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sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:04 AM
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I think we should just execute men who are abusers. Idc if its her fault that she chose him, keep other men from being this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:38 AM
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don't use evie mag next time bro. That shits literal tradpill propaganda funded. they don't even source well. don't trust 'em
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:32 AM
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Yeah: passed on through generations, and generations of control over the standards. but ofc these standards changed over time. Its not like they stayed the exact same. We have now outgrown them and realized how flawed they were. This is simply societal evolution. sexual relations with minors was once common and a standard. Do you think that we should have kept it because it was around for a while and thus "must have been around for a reason"?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:24 PM
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its merely a form of oppression. When you have standards, laws, and stigma against a group of people attaining a job, or position in life, it should not be surprising that they didn't go outside of there expected role, since they saw no other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:38 PM
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They were both forced and socialized to stick to a role. They were not allowed other options in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:03 PM
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They weren't though since it was multiple women in fields not part of their own residence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:54 PM
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We are ment to do what fulfills human bein That has changes from person to person. People don't have an objective purpose In no way is 100 years of feminism congruent with any evolutionary change. Maybe because its not evolutionary but social. I mean the fact so many people are disproving your statement about how these traditional patterns are natural kinda disprove your point. You confuse social patterns with evolution We are literally still cavemen Using your logic then we are naturally egalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:51 PM
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Why does tradition matter? We are meant to evolve forward. not stay stagnant in the obsolete past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:22 AM
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what do you mean by "untouchable" exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:21 AM
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I fucking hate trads. wtf are you on? They lack spines, lack work ethic, lack ambition and lack accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:55 AM
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oppression is a thing you know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:53 AM
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women in west Africa worked crop fields in their societies until Europeans came and enslaved everyone to work crop feilds
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:52 AM
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why can men have a high n count but not women? are women just supposed to be asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:49 AM
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because feminism gave women the idea that they had a choice rather than being forced to imbody gender stereotypes and roles
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:47 AM
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god forbid we men ask other men of our ideas and opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:45 AM
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So the women at the height of their desirability to men are attracted to dark triad traits? Finding women who aren't matured yet attractive is a choice ig. Problem is that these young men will have to lose these triad traits if they are to get into long term relationships, especially if they want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:39 AM
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except there is actual expert sociological analysis of this issue. This isn't a "boogie man" or "conspiracy theory" Boys often get socialized to measure their worth by their success with women. That combined with male social intimacy being shunned in the context of platonic friendships amongst other men, and you get men seeing romance as the only path towards fulfilling their social intimacy needs Meanwhile women often get socialized to see only one path for themselves: marriage or long term rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:29 AM
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<image> Open your eyes silly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:39 AM
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You fail to refute my counter argument yet again. Not a women, nor did i say women were perfect. But claiming a majority of women are attracted to abusive traits is wrong and is largely false unless you are dating barely legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:37 AM
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holy incel incarnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:28 AM
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Study is largely flawed. The average age of women in that study was 19.4 Meanwhile its well known that women lose this attraction to these traits as they mature The rest of your comment is just "nuh uh" so I can't argue with that. Another word for: i can't refute your arguments so i'll try to refuse discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:24 AM
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"Remember your words next time you're gonna rawdog the douche you met at the local sports bar." were your exact words. Its YOU with the fetish since nobody brought any of this up in the conversation you were having but YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:02 AM
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Except it IS the patriarchy that conditions this codependency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:38 PM
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Have you opened a women's magazine or been to a nail salon before? Men are the ones who publish and curate that content for women. "Bad Boy" is viewed as largely positive and "Nice guy" is viewed as largely negative. Women like good men. "nice guy" refers to men who are not actually genuinely good people but put on the facade to use their "kind" acts as leverage for demands and control. Good men are ACTUALLY good people for the sake of decency and not personal gain. And bad boys are not viewed p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:35 PM
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why are you fantasizing about women you only know from online getting piped? You're gross bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:37 PM
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Not conventionally attractive doesn't mean not attractive. Sure, it won't apply to all women in the known universe, but it's not crazy to say that most women are attracted to men with dark triad traits Women are not attracted to men with "dark triad" traits. Dude they hate those things. Just because they like confidence doesn't mean they like a man who is full of himself. Hence why women want men with humility. Just because they like a man who takes initiative doesn't mean they like men who are …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:36 PM
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This is because many men view sex as an act of conquest and dominance over their partner, finding gratification and validation in this dynamic. This perspective leads some to perceive sex as something done to women rather than a mutual act. Consequently, men may prefer real sexual experiences with a female partner, as it aligns with their idea of sexual conquest. This also explains why male sex toys are often designed to closely resemble women's body parts, aiming to replicate the experience of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:14 PM
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Women who are single typically live longer, and are more physically healthy. But all those women pretending to be happier while being single are simply coping. Just like the "men going their own way". They simply have a big ego and cannot admit that they failed to keep a relationship and are now single. Not everyone seeks out a relationship and not everyone is codependent like you. Many women especially, are more than fine being single. Many are single by choice. If they wanted a partner they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:05 PM
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yeah. you get that same effect from masturbation dummy. Its not about the method of ejaculation or sexual activity. Its about the sexual activity, masturbation or intercourse; doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:27 AM
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Yeah, but if you have your best friend and you love them, wouldn't you want to bridge the gap and become more than friends? And masturbation isn't as fun as doing it with a partner. Dawg, i love my homies but not in that way bro😭
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:16 AM
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why do you believe its a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:02 AM
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we don't need sex for our health. just pleasure to keep the prostate cancer away
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:01 AM
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masturbation for men can be more satisfying since our hand grip can be tighter than a woman's coochie
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:00 AM
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they are necessary to us only because we get socialized to see these as the highest form of validation. Once you deprogram this stuff and realize how limiting this point of view is, you realize romance ain't special nor is it essential
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:59 AM
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Its not essential lmao. If it was, women wouldn't benefit so greatly from NOT being in them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:52 AM
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its not just a you thing. Its perfectly normal especially among the young generation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:48 AM
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It's like arguing why good food is enjoyable. Good food is enjoyable because it’s well-prepared and is a balanced mix of nutrients and flavors. Taste receptors detect chemical signals from food and relay them to the brain, which often responds with feelings of satisfaction; especially when the food is nutritious or familiar. Our preferences form early in life, with familiar flavors becoming comforting over time. A well-coordinated blend of taste profiles enhances satisfaction and enjoyment. Have…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:46 AM
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many of those people they are referring to desire reforms and changes that reak of entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:22 AM
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such as???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:13 AM
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A lot of men act as if the problem of them being lonely is on society. As such that connotes that society needs to change to fix said problem
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:04 AM
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Except they misdiagnose the problem. It isn't not getting love or sex. its their inability to tolerate periods of celibacy. A problem they need to fix themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:01 AM
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most men aren't even straight. they just are gynosexual. They are attracted to women looking people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:16 AM
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Not really. I mean, shout out to gramps or whatever but you don't need elders after you turn 25. At that point you should be living on your own, or at the very least, should be able to. IDK what you'd need them for tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:32 AM
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If you still need your parents by the time you're 30, your parents failed you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 12:30 AM
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Ok, but they'll be out of the house and adults by the time your 60, so whats the deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:04 PM
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You will literally not be around for most of the kid's life because you will be dead or have health issues How old are we talking here bro? Unless you die at 50-60 you should be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:52 PM
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My sex partners are mostly 15-20years younger and there is also no abuse happening. "Our products are 100% not hurting the environment" -oil company
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:07 AM
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never said they didn't. we are talking about women in this case rn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:58 PM
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Yes, I agree, but that's a problem men need to fix for each other. Idk about that one. This is a problem that effects anyone who has men in their life they care about. Can i ask what you would have men who genuinely yearn for relationships for the sake of romance rather than just making up for lack of intimacy in life over all? any solution besides men becoming more desirable is a solution that advocates for stripping women's autonomy. Sorry about the confusion I think there should be some work …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:30 AM
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A woman shouldn't be stripped of her rights for having a valid concerns around a real problem that can cause dangerous consequences. Men dating that young can often be predatory and use their age difference as leverage for abusive actions and behavior, forcing the younger woman to merely take it due to inexperience in life and thus lack of boundaries Stop acting like these issues are at all the same degree. One is a problem that can effect women in life scarring ways. The other is merely an inco…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:15 AM
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this is unequal suffering. One is real, dangerous, abuse. The other can easily be fixed by decentering relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:05 AM
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Sure, but i mean, a lot of men look to relationships due to lack of real intimacy in their life as a result of gender norms. And though we are fighting these norms, they won't be completely dead until at least 5 generations. In that meantime: what will you have men do? "make men more desirable" to fix the "problem" of undesirable men being single is advocating for women's autonomy being stripped. How is men making themselves more desirable to women, an infringement on women's autonomy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 05:02 AM
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This is a non-problem in comparison to the originally addressed issue. One has to do with literal abuse being risked. The other has to do with men not getting dates (which is perfectly natural and is not a requirement in life). Stop comparing an issue around safety with a problem that can be fixed with social reform around expectations and pressures on men to get dates
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:57 AM
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Its who they are attracted to . Why should the society care if 2 adults are in consexual relationships. Because it can lead to a dangerous scenario. A dangerous amount of women recount abusive relationships they were in early on as a result of the power imbalance that comes with age gap relationship. Society should be wary of relationships like these, and should ward girls off of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:36 AM
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30 year olds dating 20 year olds IS a problem in my opinion due to the age gap providing a large imbalance in life experience; thus opening more severe opportunities for abuse since women at this stage still aren't (usually) set in their bounderies, and are easier to mold. Personally if i turned 30, i wouldn't date anyone younger than 3 years. And thats PUSHING IT. Just feels wrong at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:13 AM
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yes. and men also benefit the more than women when successfully getting a date
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:30 AM
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being 5'7" will be a disadvantage. Its not. Tbh its too varied from person to person to make such a blatant statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 01:21 AM
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but some women DO. Thats my point. Many women do desire a relationship, and the only thing "stopping" them are poor options falling in their lap. We are not past the era where women desire some form of romantic intimacy in life. Despite how you live, a large portion of women are trying to navigate the dating world, and it would be far more efficient to just approach men if you are seeking a successful relationship rather than choose from a limited selection that luck and circumstances provide wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 12:57 AM
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Sure, but many women do desire a male partner. Waiting around for one that is of quality is just inefficient You don't have control over the options that get provided. All you can do is say yes and no. Its like limiting yourself to one store . The offers may change, but ultimately you have no control of what is in stock not all mail is spam, and its easier to get mail that's not spam, by searching for it, rather than waiting around for things to change. I get that YOU may not be open to dating, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 11:21 PM
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when i say how they cope, i mean turning into hyper misogynists online and acting like pos around women and projecting their problems onto everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:09 AM
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I know. 🤦🏿‍♂️ Thats my point. Simply waiting for a man to come is far less efficient since you have no control of what falls into your lap. At least when you approach, you are more aware of what you are getting into and can find what you are looking for. In short: you have more agency, and more control of the options, since you yourself are the one exploring for options giving a larger scope of potential. You decide the options you have instead of just chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:48 PM
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It's hard being a man, our value isn't inherent to us. You either have to become very good looking (lots of gym time), very socially savvy/flirty/confident/charming (which is difficult to work on, very abstract) or very wealthy (self explanatory on how difficult it is) to leave a mark on the world around you. this mindset right here is a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:10 AM
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idk how one can combat this without taking peoples freewill away
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:07 AM
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its not about insecurities. its about how they cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:04 AM
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it is. what its not concerned about is your sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:03 AM
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breaking news: grass is green, biggie was fat, and stalin was a communist
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:00 AM
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we don't need nationalism. ukrain needs globalism and the help of others. Not nationalism which would only close itself off to help
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:45 PM
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ya'll keep discouraging women from doing that though. Isn't it ya'll who discourage women from having careers?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:25 PM
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women are happy with being providers. Many like working and aspire for careers. In fact many are choosing work and career ambitions over traditional paths of motherhood. literally a majority of houses are double income rn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:23 PM
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Its not about making their lives easier. Its about maintaining their rights and removing the problems that cause a surplus of hardship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:20 PM
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maybe just abandon the nationalism and religion, and redefine family values beyond the traditional sense
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:17 PM
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liberal women don't enjoy abortions either. But they do support the right to get one since its her body
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:16 PM
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It is true that having female friends will lead to more dating success. What they do not say is that women mostly want to be friends with guys they want to fuck or would fuck if the guy was "her type" Source: crack fueled pipe dreams
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:14 PM
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I mean sure but many women who do desire to have a partner in their life think its better to just wait for that mystery box
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 03:11 PM
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lmao, you fail to realize people show their true selves when they are more or less anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:13 AM
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what does this have to do with me? why should i care
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:11 AM
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If most men aren't sutable partners, shouldn't you take initiative a seek out the ones that are, rather than waiting for an ACTUAL mystery box to fall in your lap when you want a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:08 AM
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why can't you plan the date though if you want it so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:05 AM
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if your too emotionally weak to take initiative within a relationship: then i prolly dont want you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:03 AM
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yeah: those relationships are both rare and looked down upon. nice try though
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:07 AM
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companionship and comradery. Maybe sex. And a dog
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:27 AM
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half of mgtow is just men exiting the dating market to "punish women", with a "look what you made me do! You forced me to do this. Be ashamed and feel bad for me" type attitude
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:21 AM
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4b movement has nothing to do with not being able to get men. Far from it. Its more about wanting to remove influence of men in women's lives. Do your research next time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:19 AM
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It doesn't matter bro. he'll only get the ones desperate enough to want him. But even then, they won't consider a real relationship and instead just sex and small talk, unless he is sociable, and enjoyable to be around/look at
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:17 AM
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not necessarily. Managers still need to be good company and appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:12 AM
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You know fuck all and are gullible as shit bro. God you old heads are so easy to deceive i feel sorry for some of ya'll. Then again: you are a crypto bro, so gullibility runs in your dna
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:06 AM
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Logic and objective reality override this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:03 AM
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dude, legitimatly speaking you need to grow up. Ts is based off of a statistic from a dating app from like 7 years ago. Go outside and interact rather than thinking you know how women think and work. The fucking hubris off you boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:36 PM
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Status means fuck all though
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:49 AM
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holy pathological syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:46 AM
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why should we care what women think. Why should i bend backwards for women who clearly hate emotionally healthy men? Stop trying to appease people who hate men like that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:42 AM
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i thought that was emotional intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:40 AM
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Ok wtf does emotional maturity mean bro? Does it just mean emotional control or sumn?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:17 AM
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I'm not a woman. I have no problem with male only society. I do however have a problem with an authoritarian facist regime spearheaded by blackpilled failures. (btw: women do want to coexist with men. They just don't want to coexist with YOU🫵🏿)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:32 PM
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Yeah, except those women who voted trump are typically older. They are of no concern to you. One can easily look at how gen-z women are rolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:29 PM
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lmao, it isn't a blind spot. I know women can be mean. Difference is: women who hate men hate out of disdain and look down upon them Men on the other hand seek control
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:27 PM
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lmao, women who aren't decent towards men, have disdain towards men and want nothing to do with them, men who arent decent towards women have disdain towards women and seek to control them, to make them in their eyes, less dislikable for them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:39 PM
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Dude its improved nutrition you idiot. They grew during what is literally called the dutch golden age. This is the Netherlands we are talking about. naturally speaking, food wasn't very good in nutrition before extreme trade, and extreme agriculture Nothing about height since MEN LITERALLY CHOSE THE WOMEN. (usually the fathers chose if their daughter would marry). Not sexual selection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:38 PM
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She isn't though. A lot of the MGTOW try acting like they can guilt trip women into begging for them back. Its a weird power fantasy but common among those type of people
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:32 PM
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dude they were tall when they arrived dummy. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:26 PM
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it fucking can. what he did was write an info dump and told the ai, to make it more coherent. And it very much can. dude, grok literally can do this in cinch. keep up old man
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:24 PM
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Because those women are not very common for one. And because ultimately, women have a FAR LESS greater influence on men than their fellow male peers and neutrals
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:19 PM
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do you live under a rock? grok literally exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:15 PM
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Lmao, except we literally can look at how distrustful the public is of women's accounts of men not being decent and playing devils advocate. It literally IS men not being decent, because half the time, this indecency becomes visible in the form of CRIME such as sexual assault, murder out of deranged entitlement, and rape, which are all things men excel heavily at across the board for both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:32 AM
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Except what harm is being caused by women towards men when women are not decent people? yeah, female abusers and enablers should be focused on as well, but i'm talking about decency as in lack of entitlement, and not inhabiting behavior that bridges the gap between being an asshole, and an offender. Not sex offenders and criminals. When a woman isn't a decent person towards men, she stays tf away from men most of the time. When a man isn't a decent person toward women, he often becomes a threat …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:28 AM
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When women talk about sexual liberation/freedom and say to stop slut shaming. What are the women participating treating those men as? People usually. They aren't doing it in some weird competitive way unless they are bonnie blue or whatever her name is
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 12:02 AM
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Ok? but its primarily when men are not being decent that people get hurt and are at risk. So one step at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:58 PM
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If women are marketing themselves as sexual objects, then I don't see whats wrong with men treating them like sexual objects Thing is, one is doing it of their own accord under their own control. The other is subjecting others to that treatment. How is that different to women using their looks to their advantage to seduce men? Difference is that passport bros go to places to manipulate women using their wealth and the lesser situation, taking advantage of the other's misfortune. Meanwhile the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 11:57 PM
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i promise you that feminism is simply wanting men to be decent. Its not asking them to be feminine lmao. Its asking them to not be an entitled dick who hurts others around him
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:10 PM
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Feminism is preached mainstream, celebrated in media, academia, and policy. Men who discuss masculinity or how to navigate feminist society (e.g., Tate)? Attacked, deplatformed, or jailed Tate doesn't discuss masculinity or how to navigate in a feminist society. He promotes a toxic and dangerous standard that promotes the dehumanization of women, and promotes the idea that women are merely livestock to be claimed in sexual conquests. Men who seek partners abroad who are both more affordable and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:07 PM
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Women are championed for casual sex, OnlyFans, or "exploring their sexuality" (empowerment). Men who learn game, spin plates, or refuse to commit? Shamed as predators or losers. Women still get shamed for onlyfans lmao. Not just that, but women still get ridiculed for have as much sex as men You can explore your sexuality as a man. The thing is about men who "learn game" or "spin plates" or "refuse to commit" is that they often see women as a tool for their exploration, and treat them as just an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:07 PM
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how the hell could an industrial nightmare authoritarian state grow into a "good place" You literally have the thought police running around your dystopia
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 06:40 PM
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LMAO You must be new. Uh: its ONLY MEN calling other men "Gay" for doing anything banal or feminine. You don't understand the current generation😭 Its bad out here. Can't even put on lotion without them going "ay, you kinda zesty bro"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:38 PM
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more out of personal values than censoring because of fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:10 AM
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ok. So you're just sexist for the hell of it? gross. Being bigoted just because is not the strat
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:49 AM
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ok, but i mean...why are you sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 04:21 AM
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lmao, dude, women aren't looking for dependency rn. thats the last thing they want. You assume blackpillers and incels have money. Lmao. I'd give it 3 days before a subreddit pops up where they make memes about the dumb shit that will inevitably happen in the hell hole
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:47 AM
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i mean all we gotta do is bomb the living shit outta you guys with drones.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:39 AM
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i'm talking about the sexism part
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:36 AM
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why tf would women whine about not being in an Orwellian city state run by the testosterone CCP bro??? Honestly women would be laughing at this shit and using it as proof for "see?!? Men evil!" type arguments bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:36 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:25 AM
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lmao, won't be yours either after we crush the government and reinstate humanitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:22 AM
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Whats the matter? Not man enough to face public ridicule and judgment for your regular emotions? p*ssy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 03:17 AM
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i'd be against its existence for its multitudes of human rights abuses it will inevitably commit to maintain its regime
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:26 AM
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LMAO The feminist shitthole would be better than this authoritarian nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:22 AM
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Dude you asked if people would want to live in it. I'm telling you that this place sounds like absolute hell on earth for any person who is anti-Orwellian nightmare. It sounds like it holds a very toxic and hateful culture full of resentful men. You literally said that people could be sent to LABOR CAMPS in some cases if they display "gynocentric ideas". And since its a government full of blackpilled incels, that definition basically means seeing women as people deserving of rights
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:26 AM
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Dude its a nation state full of misogynists and incels, and you get persecuted for your beleifs and values, all while they closely monitor your allegiance to their ideology of hatred of women. Come up with nation with a culture that DOESN'T hate on half the population of earth, and isn't the CCP government
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:15 AM
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And no, this is will not be an incel version of North Korea. Sound's like it to me💀 dude you need to understand most men on this sub don't fuck with blackpillers. I'd live in an all male society nation state that is facilitated by the idea of fraternal strength, comradery, and respect for all on this earth. Not this dystopia you'd get if Suzy McKee Charnas made Orwellian fiction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 12:11 AM
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You paint men as either "6'2 rich athletic Chads" or "balding, broke, awkward Steves from IT," and argue that women only find emotional vulnerability appealing in the former. Here’s the thing: attraction isn’t universal. What clicks for one person-height, money, emotional depth-might not for someone else. Plenty of women value vulnerability on its own because it shows authenticity and builds trust, not because it’s some bonus perk tacked onto a “Chad.” By boxing everyone into these rigid categor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:58 PM
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funny how you can't make a single rebuttle against my specific arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 10:35 PM
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If these syndromes became counter productive to reproduction, natural selection would select a genetic profile that makes these traits less and less likely, but instead, they've been consistent enough over time for us to know it's been around as long as we can remember Persistence in a population does not imply adaptive benefit. Traits persist because: Neutral drift; since traits without strong selection pressures can persist neutrally. Balanced trade-offs; where a trait may have both positive a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:26 PM
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The “80%” figure is misleading. Twin and adoption studies estimate personality heritability at around 30-60%, not 80%, with the remainder due to unique experiences and gene–environment interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:08 PM
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If women actually preferred XYZ traits, they'd be selected for and men would be like that already. Evolutionary preferences don’t instantly shape populations. Human evolution is slow and mediated by social and cultural changes, not just biology. Traits advantageous in one era can lose value in another. What’s attractive today isn’t fixed. Social norms, media influence, gender roles shape mating behavior in ways genes cannot directly follow Additionally, real-world conditions like monogamy, socia…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:57 PM
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Sterotyplical masculinity is enforced largly by MEN. Men who reject or critique traditional masculinity, by staying home with children or displaying emotion, are derided primarily by other men (“soy boy,” “effeminate”). these labels almost never originate with women. Even "virgin" being used as an insult is primarily used by men and originated from men, not women. It became popular in the sexual revolution, and after seeing how much it bruised men's egos, women started to use it when wanting to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:25 PM
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4B happened over fear of social injustice great point Women aren't afraid of not owing property, just mocking them in conversation.. idk what you are trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:02 PM
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Men prioritized women's safety over their self and you call it misogyny. There is truly no limit to female entitlement. Men didn't prioritize women's safty when they made the draft lmao. They prioritized the safty of their own political asses. its the politicians who made the draft (who were men), NOT the public. You don't get to tell women to be grateful for being underestimated. men don't have to prioritize women's safety. We just need to prioritize keeping ourselves from harming others (which…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 07:38 AM
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Women were not required to join because they were thought to be incapable of serving by men at the time of the drafting's establishment. This is a case of misogyny, not at all about women being prioritized South Korea has one of the largest gender pay gaps in the OECD, and women consistently face severe workplace discrimination, lack of career progress after childbirth, and a high burden of unpaid labor One in three women has suffered gender-based violence, and digital sex crimes often go unpuni…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 05:54 AM
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The 4B movement originated in South Korea, where women face high rates of violence and intense pressure to marry, serve their husbands, and still participate in the grueling East Asian work culture alongside men. It spread to Western countries as women sought to improve their lives by decentering men and rejecting traditional gender expectations. MGTOW started as a group of men who were basically men who were often divorced or older, and no longer felt it was necessary in life to commit to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:38 AM
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4b happened out of anger and FEAR over injustice mgtow happened as a "fuck you" to the post-4th wave feminist west
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:29 AM
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thats the western standard. ever heard of cultural standards? Like dude, Korean culture pretty much kill this narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:24 AM
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lmao conservatism right now is lib-right. which is not traditionalist at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:20 AM
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marriage was an expectation or a long time but the nuclear family set an extreme standard that was HYPER present in the public. Now its influence is waning. Its was one of the few things keeping the standard of "every man gets a wife" alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:12 AM
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dude wtf? thats a slur for one, and sure i guess. As long as they are attractive, and are nice to be around, i'll get a [ahem] meat missile
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:58 AM
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you're going to have to realize most of this sub are millennials and early gen-z. They project the world they grew up with upon the modern generation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 12:54 AM
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when did i say men don't have issues
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:25 PM
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Majority of MRA identify with the movement. MRA doesn't care about male rights because they barely talk about the problems of men's rights (which i'll be very honest: i can't find rights we as men are lacking, so much as i can see social problems and issues within the male community) without those rights being either brought up in discussions around women's civil problems, or without them mentioning feminism as a cause of one the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:26 AM
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everybody who does support equality is anti-feminist. feminists literally is pro-men's issues. the problem is, that you guys in the MRA seem to only bring up men's issues in conversations around WOMEN'S PROBLEMS. THATs the problem feminism has with mra. It treats oppression like its a competition
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:04 AM
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HOLY FUCKING ILLITERATE MRA is a MOVEMENT. NOT the entire fucking soical cause of men's issues. There are plenty of other social movements around men's issues that aren't mra. MRA is a movement that is anti-feminist. They only care about feminists which is why these people whine about feminism more than the actual issues men go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:55 AM
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who its founded by, and what they actually do is very different. the subreddit has been around for a while, so its far dethatched from its root founder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:53 AM
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I already answered your questions: Except thats not what they mean when they say "violence against women" . violence against women is a phrase used to describe a specific kind of violence, whether its domestic or not. Most feminists who are informed on the model are aware of the problems of it, and don't use it to ascribe ALL abuse but instead abuse directed towards women Yes you absolutely can, but often times, when people bring this up, they use it as an argument against feminism as a whole, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:51 AM
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mra IS right wing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:43 PM
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mra influencers often are the ones saying feminism was a mistake or some other bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:01 AM
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If its men in general then the same statement applies: men need to decenter women and dating, and center their mental health and wellbeing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:48 AM
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actually women tend to be the biggest enjoyers of cuck porn, where they are the woman the man is losing. common cheating fantasy ig
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:43 AM
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um...so you understand that the male loneliness pandemic has much to do with the lack of PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS right? Nothing to do with romance, all to do with friends past the age of 20. The incels just made up the romance part and you idiots took the bait. the whole debacle started in late 2021 when a study found that the amount of meaningful friendships among men older than 20 had decreased by 20% since 2000.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:41 AM
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ahh i see thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:36 AM
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that shit came out pre-4th wave lmao. This was when 3rd-wave feminism was kinda losing steam and was stale You make the point that men can be victims of domestic violence today, and you'll get an overwhelming reply of "yes men can become victims of it". When it comes to the fathers issue, most feminists will agree that he father should get custody of the kid if both parties consent to the idea. if not that, then the father should be able to have shared custody. I'm talking about the NEW men's li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:22 AM
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Can you go into a feminist space and say that it's wrong to use the phrase "Violence Against Women" to refer to all domestic violence (like with VAWA)? Except thats not what they mean when they say "violence against women" . violence against women is a phrase used to describe a specific kind of violence, whether its domestic or not. Can you go into a feminist space and say that feminists were wrong for supporting the Duluth Model and MRAs were right to oppose it? Most feminists who are informed …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:14 AM
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sum it up. i can't pay for medium
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:47 PM
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So basically, you only risk your mental health for the chance with a girl? Maybe you need to learn how to decenter women and dating, and center YOUR OWN HEALTH. You're mental health should matter more to you than your dating success
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:47 PM
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this is why you should stop caring about if people see you as a man. You know your as much of a man as anyone else. How they see you is on them. You've trapped yourself in a box based on obsession with status, rather than your actual mental health. You shouldn't be doing this because women, you should be doing this for yourself. how women look at you doesn't matter. your mental health does, and dethatching the string that connects how women see you with how content you are with your masculinity …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:16 PM
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??? explain
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:08 PM
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the expectation of independency and self-reliance is the foundation of the problem here bro
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:03 PM
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Be more vulnerable. Be more emotional. Be more in touch with your feminine side They say be more vulnerable, because it is because of men's obsession with being invulnerable, that makes them far more likely to be depressed and stressed since they don't want to confront the problem they have which keeps them from fixing it. Its because of this obsession with not wanting to be vulnerable that men are far less likely to seek help in ANY situation, including personal problems therapists don't say "b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:54 PM
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therapy isn't gendered lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:46 PM
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i never did, but given how much rape goes unreported globally, and how many women globally get forced into positions that cause them to get raped due to patriarchal power imbalance, its a safe bet that its WAY THE HELL WORSE for women than men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:37 AM
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because women too underreport.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:23 AM
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yeah but we focus a lot on black men more than black women in these cases. not excluding completely out of focus, but there is more effort to keep the black male population from being victimized
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:09 AM
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i mean sure...but like...one issue is much more prevalent which is why it gets more focus
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:46 AM
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Yeah. they do. higher status women can often afford a lot more to look physically attractive for men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:44 AM
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holy shit its literal science😭
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:19 PM
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You can say this in feminist spaces lmao, But often this topic is used under posts/conversations around women's struggles by the MRA and they consistently blame women for struggles primarily perpetuated by other men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:57 PM
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MRA was a product of differences in the ACTUAL men's rights movement of the 70s "men's liberation movement" where there was a split between a faction of them who blamed social systems and feminism for struggles of men, and the faction that blamed social systems, and saw feminism as an ally. THe movement fell apart and resurfaced in the 2000s as the mra
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:55 PM
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women's dating struggles align more with: "i don't know if he wants me because he likes me, or because he just is physically attracted"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:47 PM
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It means that women inherently -biologically- are significantly more inclined to certain personality traits Except they aren't lmao. You're evidence is only patterns that have been influenced by centuries of social norms being enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:39 PM
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Sure at the moment, but thats not inherent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:36 PM
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because men have been socialized to see it as a primary measure of self-worth in the public's eye
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:19 PM
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Not really. This is social practice and dynamic. not evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:18 PM
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naw man, keep that pseudo intellectual away bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:53 AM
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If this is actually the case (which i do beleive somewhat) men should start decentering dating and romance. I think its extremly damaging to center something that requires you to prove yourself to a group of people just to get it. I think we need to change the status quo about only women being the selectors
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 06:52 AM
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you must not know how niave young women are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:30 AM
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hot take: it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:27 AM
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Its not young guys. its millinials. middle aged men. Young guys are into older more mature looking women right now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:23 AM
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Ellis island invention ... explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:54 AM
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And I do think it's important for kids to have their dad's name. interesting. why tho???
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:52 AM
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depends on what type of feminism. Liberal feminism: sure. Radical feminism: more complicated since its about dissection of how a patriarchal society and environment influence decisions of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:51 AM
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I built from scratch God i hate what religion and spiritualism has done to the actual concept of gestation. No, the mother doesn't build the child they simply provide the essential environment, nutrients, hormonal signals, and immune protection. The child's body develops through largely autonomous processes like cellular division and differentiation, guided by its own genetic blueprint—but all of this is critically dependent on the maternal environment. Thats it. I'm so sick of this "humans crea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:47 AM
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No. Considering the fact that they still dump assholes no matter how hot these men are. Sure, you need to be at least conventionally attractive for them to approach you, but if you approach them first with a good personality(and better yet, you both know each other well, thus allowing for the mere-exposure effect to initiate) she'll take into account personality and compatibility heavily
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:47 PM
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Heterosexual men don't give a shit about another dude's meat. Your right. But thats not what the concept is saying. Its the fact that these men care way more about THEIR OWN penile size than the women they think care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:34 PM
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Evolution doesn't work that way dumbass. You are ascribing preferences to biology when preferences are developed, which is why there are so many deviations since there are so many environments. Thats why masculinity is not a universally objective concept per-culture. Let me ask you: what "natural biological urges" are men struggling to be met?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:19 PM
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No. I want her to have a fucking life. A woman who is obsessed with their man 24/7 is a fucking loser with no hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:27 AM
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"nobody would do type this unless they were trying to impress a girl" Grow up and stop projecting how shallow you are
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:22 AM
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What's the ideal structure? How about: you choose what lifestyle you want to live. People aren't clones who fit into one norm. That's just stupid, and forcing conformity leads the the eventual collapse of that norm since inevitably there will be a large group of people saying "fuck that". YOU need norms. YOU need structure. Don't project that onto everyone else. We are human and thus are dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:19 AM
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study sociology and read some history. its not biology at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:16 AM
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lmao, they were jerking it prior bro. they never stopped the habit. Maybe he should do better in arousing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:11 AM
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you undervalue yourself and others by thinking people's physical value decreases with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:34 PM
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truth hurts but it remains real lmao. This isn't some pathology. Women are told to be caregivers and nurturers while boys are socialized to see women as subordinates to be dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:32 PM
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Nice pipe dream but no. At the rate at which men are going, women are going to shift WAY farther left and anti-traditional as men continue to push traditionalism upon them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:27 PM
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they didn't choose trump because they were sexless. They voted on him because they wanted something different and trump was more noticeably different and bolder than kamala
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:58 PM
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wishful thinking considering less women go to church (which breaks a norm thats been established for decades)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:56 PM
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30s. Your freinds are risking it ngl. May not be personally mature enough nor experienced in life in general to maintain such a commitment for the rest of their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:54 PM
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Lmao, nope. Those civilizations have already been infected by the seed of western ideals. It'll get to them eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:53 PM
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we've never raised men to be loving husbands who meet the needs of their female partners. We've only raised women to be loving wives who meet the needs of their male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:51 PM
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Getting taken care of by minimum wage immigrants and not kids and grandkids sounds like an actual nightmare Gives me kinda a thrill imo. I most likely didn't waist a quarter of my life raising someone and instead realized my OWN ambitions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:45 PM
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it kinda is though...? intoxicating someone to have sex with you is illegal and manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 05:22 PM
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thank god. You must have been a nightmare when you were on the market. Just keep from spreading your pussy drying philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:46 AM
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thank god. You must have been a nightmare when you were on the market. Just keep from spreading your pussy drying philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 04:46 AM
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why are you suggesting getting women drunk? Thats predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:36 AM
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tends to be though. Millinials and early gen-z don't gaf about social boundaries for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:32 AM
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I'm 26, you just gotta get them drunk and they'll start breaking that rule. do i really need to explain how joking about this shit paints you as a reprehensible human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:27 AM
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you're a gross sack of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:24 AM
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No. I'm part of late gen-z, so the rule among other gen-z is "don't interact with me and i won't interact with you" Aka: we don't give much attention to each other in the first place, wanted or unwanted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:15 AM
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take your pills honey
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:51 AM
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"why can't i get date"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:09 AM
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chatgpt'd but ultimatly can't understand who they are until we chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:04 AM
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"I take pleasure serving you" is still just as bad as "use me daddy"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:43 AM
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Why is it so hard for you to accept that women on average are moderately more submissive as men? Does this conflict with your feminist ideology? Because this is not inherent, nor biological, but is sociological
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:48 AM
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there isn't a submissive gene dummy. thats fucking psycology and you know it. These preferences are born out of environments one grows up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:46 AM
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I do believe in evolution lmao. I just know that evolution has nothing to do with this. This is sociology and psychology. Again, most women aren't considering children when they are going out on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:21 PM
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Testosterone is a horomone. Not a piece of dna, and it doesn't determine women's preferences toward courting or being the one courted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:20 PM
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if that were the case, then it would be consistant, but preferences overtime have changed with culture, showing that evolution has nothing to do with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:19 PM
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Women need to be more careful in selecting their partners so that they have someone to support them throughout pregnancy when they are more vulnerable. Not every relationship results in reproduction, and women don't have reproduction on their mind when selecting a date lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:17 PM
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Women are free to approach men. They are encouraged by men to do so. Its been a long standard to see women who approach as either "desperate" or "w#*res". Though this reaction is slowly going away with the newer generation, there is still a stigma. Who shames women for approaching first? Other women. Actually this rhetoric comes from both women and men. Not just women. Why would they do that if it's so forced? Because they have internalized a status quo. Just like how men shame by other men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:14 PM
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It is. Again: you generation: sure. But gen-z especially those who are younger don't care about if you approach, and honestly PREFER to be approached
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:47 PM
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Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism Yes. THOSE TRAITS SHOW UP BECAUSE OF SOCIALIZATION. Those socialized traits occur due to environment and societal indirect impressions upon kids during the traits are part of gender roles. which are taught.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:46 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:31 AM
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ocean traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:36 AM
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Femininity and masculinity are social constructs we use to catigorize traites we ascribe in our culture towards each gender. This is why what is masculine and what is feminine differ from culture to culture. I mean, to us, we consider the korean idea of masculinity hyper feminine. this is NOT objective, nor is it a good way of measuring behavior. they aren't how people learn. Its how people interpret themselves or more simply, it is the INTERNALIZATION of what people both expect and see in someb…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:26 AM
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It is a myth lmao again: maybe in your generation but most guys would GLADLY be chased by women. Its more validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:21 AM
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i'm not playing devils advocate here. i'm being sincere: nah. Women are not the sole prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:50 PM
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In fact a lot of men are turned off by women approaching them first. Yeah uh, thats an overblown myth. Maybe amongst those who are of the older generation who get turned off by deviations from the expected traditional way, but most men of this generation particularly do not give 3 fucks about being approached as long as they show genuine interest. You can easily see this by looking at the "r/steenboks" subreddit and searching "do boy want to be approached", and all the replies are almost unanimo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:49 PM
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no. its because men are told it is the standard and thus to be accepted and validated as "normal" they follow the standard. meanwhile women are told through media, cultural imagery, and verbally that they must attract men. Neither side is presented with the opposite option, or at least without there being a clear bias. Thus women don't try to initiate and as a result: force men's hand, since men are already told they are the ones who approach. Considering the fact that men can simply jerk it to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:45 PM
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Its normal because of expectations. In media and imagery we consistently see men approach. Then we get outright told that one day we too will approach a woman and court her by our parents. then we internalize expectation that boys are initiator and " girls are recipients and reciprocators". Since we as boys growing up don't really have a guide to tell us how to be boys we take these expectations in an attempt to act like the "norm". Thus we become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Many men break this …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:35 PM
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18-29
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:28 PM
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nah
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:27 PM
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this is NOT biology. this is sociology. Men's preferences in terms of courting would be recipients if we grew up with the same conditioning women go through. Its merely the expectation and lack of women who initiate that force men's hand. this is why men get nervous about approaching. If it was biological, men wouldn't be so timid about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:27 PM
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Men initiate because of biology. Lmao, no we certainly do not. We do it because we've been told we have to, and because of the cultural expectations. Not because its in our blood to do so. if it was in our dna, we'd be doing it far more and with less hesitance and fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:24 PM
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Actually this is a very good question that very much is asked within both feminist & menslib circles. THe sociological aspect of this needs to be studied since cultural influences DO cause internalization and thus predetermination of preference. its not overthinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:22 PM
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we aren't eggs or sperm. We are the result of both and thus have both options at our disposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:19 PM
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they are lmao. Feminists have been going DECADES on end about how we need to remove the stigma of women as initiators in GENERAL CONTEXTS. We live in a culture where women are seen as passive and submissive in the "natural norm". So many feminists push for more active women who practice their agency more, while trying to remove the "submissive" angle that has been slapped on them for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:17 PM
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because pre-established societal systems and notions are often stronger in influence than individual deviations from the narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:13 PM
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evolution did not develop preferences. this is social and developmental.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:12 PM
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Internalization of the cultural idea that women are reciprocators and men are initiators
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:11 PM
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Animal kingdom is irrelevant here. There is no gene or piece of dna telling women to wait and attract partners. This is often forced preference as a result of being shamed for initiating
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:09 PM
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Some women also like perusing, and the op most likely thinks it should be normalized for women to consider both choices of persuing or attracting. But the problem is women who pursue get labeled as "Sluts" for trying to initiate and are seen as desperate, as if they are a puppy desperate to be adopted by a potential owner.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:07 PM
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he's one of those type of men. the "i only date those who just entered college" type.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:02 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:01 PM
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45% haven't been in a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:59 PM
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need for validation. More "positive" attention=more validation and (in their minds) higher self-worth Basically one of the biggest examples of patriarchal indoctrination and male centrism
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:57 PM
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Men and women are not the same, but are the same in the actions and choices we make. If a man chooses to have sex, and a woman chooses to have sex, then both should have the same reaction from the public. The differences is immaterial here, since both risk major consequences and thus both should be held to the same standard. Pick and choose: is sex detrimental, or beneficial to one's social status
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 11:40 PM
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so maybe men should be modest too if women must. But ofc i never hear that from your side. In fact your side is centered around teaching men how to get as much sex as possible. If men are able to indulge in their desires for sex without being shunned and looked at with disgust by society, so should women be able to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 10:19 PM
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not as severe as potential forced pregnancy. Not as common either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:30 AM
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if she doesn't get pregnant by the time you come around, why does it matter though? Unless men decide to give up sexual tendencies women should be allowed to be as promiscuous as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:02 AM
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"we let you" Uh...you know i'm a dude right? You can read my flair, dummy. Newsflash: women won't sacrifice their ambitions in life, just so they can get a man. They'll just find men who actually have stable self esteem, and aren't so weak that the idea of the women earning more makes them feel lower in value. Those types of men will be pushed aside lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 12:27 AM
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Except they don't. Its men who beat down other men for being outcompeted by a woman in...well: anything. This is a problem MEN need to solve and need to fix about themselves, and the male culture we create.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 07:02 PM
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Usually women use these insults against men that either antagonize them, or men who they believe are in general just not good people and thus in their minds, deserve disrespect Rarely do i see this spontaneously popping up as an initiating interaction, nor do i see them really using this technique just for the fuck of it because they just like pushing men down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:58 PM
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usually its to bite back at an already established conflict. Rarely do i see a woman do this without being antagonized
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 06:49 PM
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Her ambitions...? Dude idk how to tell you this but this is the 21rst century. We are straying away from the narrative that men's value is based off wealth. What's causing these divorces is often the husband (who usually works as well) not pulling his weight at home. Usually when he gets home after a long day, he takes his suit and tie off and waits for dinner to be ready. After dinner, he does some of the dishes then he unwinds. When she gets home after a long day, she has to immediately cook d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:57 AM
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lmfao. Except these models have differing traits. Idk what generation you came from but the pool for what is considered "attractive" by men has expanded in my generation. Women don't pursue because: 1: They aren't even normally looking for dates in the first place. Thats why they don't like being approached. Even by buff burly men at the gym 2: They are (just like men) afraid of rejection as it turns out. Thing is: they can afford to be stagnant and remain scared of rejection. 3: women simply ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:45 AM
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maybe the fact that they are undesirable is why they are virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:38 AM
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yeah, because most women who arne't in careers RELY on the man and thus CAN'T AFFORD TO DIVORCE, even if they want to and/or should.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:32 AM
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idk if you're being serious or sarcastic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:31 AM
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Imo it does. I mean: she actually works. That makes her more attractive simply off the fact that she has dedication
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:30 AM
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Lmfao. Some women have different preferences. just like men. Attraction and attractiveness is never objective
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:28 AM
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they do. they got the "virgin" insult from boys from the sexual revolution who were basing each other's value off of how many women they'd fucked. If you hadn't had sex, you were considered a loser and a child by other men. Soon it just became "ha ha you've never experienced the pleasure of sex before! you must suck at being a fuckboy!" And women saw how this effected other men's self-esteem. So they used it as well. Ofc they bare responsibility for using it and employing it. But they don't use …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:27 AM
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Except its actually because MEN use it. And since its effective: women use it as well. They don't care about the connotations. They just care about the idea that it brings you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:16 AM
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Women's money shouldn't dramatically increase her mate value that it gives her access to men she would not have had access to without the money. Tbh i think women with more money (earned from a job and not daddy's money) should be considered more valueble since it shows they work hard and have done a lot to get to such a high income
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:55 AM
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its not inherently being "the man" to be a provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:51 AM
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Yeah. Ofc. Thats why we have plotonic relationships and parents. men don't need women and women don't need men. We just need people in general regardless of what sex those people are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:45 AM
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bro ya'll gotta stop with this bio-coded bullshit. women have different developments in their life that lead to different desires when it comes to men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:37 AM
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Women don't gaf if you're a virgin. They care if you're a good boyfriend and are a fun experience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:31 AM
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In this day in age with our technology and simple availability physical training, i think women CAN replace men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:30 AM
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lmfao. This is socialization. Not inherent objective reality. Men can and should live independent of women sex and romance. Tbh, men need to become less co-dependent on women and need to stop overvaluing relationships with women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:25 AM
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nah. You don't need specifically men and women to have fun. Stop this pseudo spiritual bs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:19 AM
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Lmfao. No we definintly don't. This is socialized co-dependency. We don't need each other. People just need people. Thats it. Doesn't matter the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:17 AM
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Men don't want men because of socialization that make men perceive each other as unsuitable for emotional intimacy. This is sociology. Not objective nor inherent reality
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:15 AM
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no. we most defininitly do not. THe lonleyness pandemic is a result of men not having close and meaningful FREINDS. Thats what the study that sparked this whole topic of "male loneliness pandemic" recorded. "Men being in meaningful relationships dropped by 20% since 2000"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:09 AM
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and what about the man? hm? Maybe you should also maintain your virginity until marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:49 AM
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I'm looking for a woman who takes initiative, has a life outside of being a girlfriend and actually has the balls to stand up for herself. I can't respect anyone who doesn't. Also someone who doesn't want kids. I hate kids. And i'm 17 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:30 PM
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courtship has always been asymmetrical lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:28 PM
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wtf does "vetted" mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:28 PM
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porn in general should be considered an ick. stop tolerating gooners
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 05:09 AM
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You should split the check on a first date. If both parties provided the idea for the date. If one party requested it and the other party said "fine", the party who asked out the other party should pay, since they chose the venue and date. Why would the person who simply accepted have to pay lmao? Women don’t ask men out, like almost never. So that means men would always have to pay for it. Too bad ig. doesn't change the scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:14 AM
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because he asked her out. "would you like to pay for my date that I am asking you out on and that you are actively risking life on"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:54 AM
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Idc much about how active they are on social media. I do care more about how active they are in real life, and how proactive of a person they are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:51 PM
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nice pathologization
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:42 PM
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for mental health. Not for better development of skills and other things like building emotional intelligence and building the skills i stated. And even then exercise doesn't FIX the problem. it only eases symptoms. Its not going to help you solve the problem. You'll still be depressed. You'll just have lesser symptoms. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/depression-and-exercise/art-20046495
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:38 PM
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dude you develope these things by actually confronting it head on. Therapy helps that. You can experience all you want, but that won't create actual development. Also: Notice how it says MEDICATION and not THERAPY.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:10 AM
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still won't help with the issues i talked about. list studies though?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:42 AM
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dude tf?? The male loneliness pandemic is real and isn't solely effecting misogynists on twitter. It effects the common man. this is about men post 20s who lack fulfilling and MEANINGFUL friendships. THATS IT. Nothing to do with dating or women in particular. Just companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:21 AM
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that won't fix young men's problems. Only hide them. Young men objectively speaking these days need to develop more in terms of personality and character and emotional intelligence. therapy helps this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 01:04 AM
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men die earlier due to lack of care of health and nutrition. Women are more prone to autoimmune disorders and heart disease(the biggest killer of people in the U.S rn for some reason) Also: more more female fetuses die during pregnancy which is why more boys are born than girls typically
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:57 AM
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If we don't work for them, they are at complete mercy of us. They have nothing to hold against us now. We control the market still, so we control the value of what they sell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:38 AM
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Elites don't dictate much in a culture of individualism. If they make their own slaves how would that effect the rest of us in any meaninful way? This just makes room for us to make a democratic social economy without them getting in the way. they'll be fighting each other, and not the public. THEY become irrelivant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:22 AM
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Actually no. The y chomosome is an evolution. it is clear this is the case when you see how much of an advantage it has given men through history over women. Besides, male humans and human females have always existed in tandem. The og male and female were not humans but non-complex life billions of years ago. Human men are not defective. This is just how human men evolved naturally and continue to evolve while our female counterparts get left behind evolutionarily speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:29 AM
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Not exactly. Men at a species level are far more important due to the fact that men drive the mutation process that allows evolution. Not just that, but (and i understand this is a talking point thats been made cringe by incels but) we are approaching a stage in progression where we are conceptualizing artificial gestation already. I don't think you want to make women's value based on anything that has to do with biology, since that will inevitably become replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:23 AM
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holy shit this is sad as fuck bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 12:09 AM
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love will remain dude. Just less people will have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:54 AM
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you'd find men attractive. thats what htey mean by "become gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:50 AM
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any double standard
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:44 AM
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Yes. many men (especially ones in their teens and early 20s) are using ai as a replacement for relationships. Will most likely become extremely common overtime with younger generations of boys
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:31 AM
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buy these super realistic baby dolls either Wait...huh? explain this to me bc i ain't never heard of this before
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:25 AM
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are those your 3 wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 02:19 AM
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Aren't children part of the reason why tension builds in marriages before the divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:51 AM
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god forbid women want to become scientists and be ambitious and do anything thats not being a domestic slave
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:49 AM
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men are becoming more introverted these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:48 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:46 AM
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emotional support?????!!!??!!??! 🤣 Dawg you you might as well get a female friend for that shit. On average men do horrible for that. ask the average woman whose been in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:45 AM
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ok...and? what does that have to do with marriage? More people will become DINCs That won't make marriage collapse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:39 AM
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you understand the more a society advances, the more naturally progressive it gets right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:35 AM
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ggs chat😭
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:32 AM
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Dude just outted himself💀 not even the batman could get this opinion outta me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:26 AM
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thats not evolution. Thats just operating in a societal system
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:09 AM
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they were symboles of fertiliy and motherhood. meaning this was the ideal body type desired by men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:51 AM
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yes actually they were extremly fetishized. Look up venus figurines. They were actually WAY fatter than the average overweight woman we have today
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:48 AM
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lmoa 1: no most women aren't. 2: so you admit its the redpill promoting violence against women. good to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:50 AM
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bro stfu dawg. We can tell you're a skinny man-child in your basement. you literally are on VR Porn subreddits because you get no play. The redpill clearly isn't helping you <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:45 AM
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Tate very much is the redpill. His philosphy seems to be a foundation for a lot of the rhetoric you see on redpill forums. Stop projecting at this point. Trying to act like redpill men: the men tying to fuck as many women as possible even if it take coercion, aren't rapey is top ten unfunny jokes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:39 AM
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Yeah...but saying that women saying no actually means yes, and saying that real men assert physical dominance on other women, and that sometimes beating your wife is a good thing, is promotion of violence, sweet-cheeks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:34 AM
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ohhhh billy badass over here. um, fun fact: the guy that popularized redpilism for the masses is a sex trafficker. also: most of the redpill men tend to be unsuccessful in most context. Why do you think most redpill men you see are unmarried? They'll end up like a large portion of men: unmarried and lonely by 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:31 AM
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you realize a LOT of people are tolerant of it right? it doesn't matter how socially intelligent the person is. if its indistinguishable from human interaction, it won't matter lmao. besides, ai is at a steep progress curve. if its not good enough now, it WILL be by 2027
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:23 AM
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humans don't have souls. lmao. thats a cultural construct if an ai interaction is indistinguishable from a human one then i think that's sufficient if most people accept it as a norm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:14 AM
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Wouldn’t you feel bad about that tho like you’re wasting someone else’s time essentially. i mean...ig. personally i've never been in a relationship since i'm 17, but i can see why a guy would lie jus so he could get into a serious (and thus usually fulfilling) relationship. why do you expect him to want a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:09 AM
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you understand that ya'll are the ones promoting sexual violence right? like don't let the nuance be lost on you bro
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 04:00 AM
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redpill men are liteally the ones being locked up for sex trafficking and are the ones saying "when she says no, she means yes"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:59 AM
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ai and human interaction are already bluring rn. Ai's past the turing test already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:58 AM
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because most men feel pressure to get married, and men in serious relationships are far less likely to desire marriage than a woman. So the only way to really attract a woman and have a deeper relationship without directly getting married is to lead them on as they see no other choice. Women who want long-term meaningful relationships and AREN'T seeking a marriage as a result are rare af. (also: why is marriage such a top priority for you?)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:50 AM
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men used to like fat women because it meant they were well fed and thus were of high status. This has nothing to do with evolution. this is socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:44 AM
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Its because of socialization and overvaluing of romance due to said socialization
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:02 AM
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Instead of making accusatory claims of conspiracy, maybe you could use some critical thinking and research on the subject
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 02:42 AM
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I mean, the women would have probably become like british feminists and forced the men to give it to them through violent acts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:13 AM
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get over it dude💀
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:05 AM
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makes you happy. But some of us have other ways beyond sex to get happy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 02:03 AM
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Its younger generations too. I'm part of young gen-z. tbh, the men enjoy it more than the girls
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:57 AM
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or...maybe most men lack standards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/25 01:55 AM
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No. I mean trying to tell them that they are being oppressed or that the west has fallen because of feminism, or that men have become weakened by the liberal agenda against men. Trying to appeal to toxic male power fantasies. The left identifies men as part of an “oppressor class.” In this framework, our societal system assigns men to positions of structural power and influence, while women—who do not share that built-in advantage—are therefore more likely to have power exerted over them. This d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:51 PM
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Why does that matter to you? its sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:48 AM
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how about you live where you want to live REGARDLESS of women. Nobody is stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:37 AM
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Because the right targets men dummy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:33 AM
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We as a society enforce a structured socialization off of standards based on (at least SOME) forms of logic. These ancestral men did not live in societies where a standard could be constructed. They were not socialized. They instead just adapted to the moment out of need for survival. That's why hunter gatherer societies of ancestral times tended to be more egalitarian since they couldn't really establish much of a system of hierarchy with such consistent change
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 11:22 PM
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or...maybe we get to the actual bottom of the problem, and instead of having men act like they are armor for women, we remove the threat thats causing women to need said armor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:00 AM
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So...he's just a selfish fucktard? Aight, i catch your drift man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:23 AM
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its not a feature to runaway from your emotions. You should channel you emotions not hide them, or live in denial of them, or flat out disregard them them. (btw, ancestral males wre not this fantasized version you claim they were. They were unruley and uncontrolled due to lack of enforced socialization)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 12:22 AM
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A slick and swift male intellectualism movement pushed by the mainstream in reaction, like the women-in-stem movement, but most likely successful
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:56 PM
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Dude, i'm not talking about dating lmao. Hell, i'm not even planning to get into the dating landscape until i'm in sophmore year of college(possibly...maybe later than that) I'm just talking about general treatment. I mean, boys get taught that women must always be respected, and that courtisey is near mandatory when around women. So why can't it be vise versa
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:18 PM
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I'm not. Ya'll deadass don't understand what timing the girls in high school be on.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:56 AM
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Dude, they don't. If they did, ya'll wouldn't be so damn manipulative and egotistical as FUCK. Maybe those things are a social ETHOS. but i don't beleive anyone is deadass telling their kids directly this. If they are, ya'll are ignoring it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:05 AM
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Hi. member of the very late side of gen-z: they don't teach this shit at ALL.😭
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:50 AM
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And that should be changed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:20 PM
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Exactly. They typically are WAY smarter when it comes to partner selection
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:14 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:12 PM
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I don't WANT to be a fucking king
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:41 AM
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No normal career woman is saying that. Shit, for most career women, men are the last things on their mind
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:08 AM
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Women aren't getting careers to get men. they are getting careers so they won't have to rely on men for money IMO its extremely important for your partner to have a career. Shows they can pull their weight. And their paygrade shows how much they are dedicated and willing to dedicate to things they care about. I think men should care more about if the women they chase have a job, and how much money they make
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:53 AM
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money won't get you shit. You have to work on personality outright, and personal complexity. Women aren't looking for men to get money anymore, they can already provide for themselves without having strings attached Women aren't looking for men to gain more status. High status is highly accessible thanks to social media. Women are looking for men to have a good experience. If you can provide her with a great experience and can make that obvious, then you're set for success. But to do that, you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:52 AM
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Intellectual activity is often seen as less masculine as physical activity and thus less valuable. Thats why boys are failing at school rn. Because the values they have misalign with the values needed to successfully learn
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:57 AM
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Intellectual activity is often seen as less masculine as physical activity and thus less valuable. Thats why boys are failing at school rn. Because the values they have misalign with the values needed to successfully learn
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:57 AM
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great. So now you have to provide for yourself, AND each other? Like when was the last time you saw a relationship where one person wasn't demanding the other person provide something for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:46 AM
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2 people living together need to provide for each other. Sounds like more need than a person who is single and just needs to provide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:58 AM
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Come back to me in 10 years when you're divorced because of the unseen problems with your husband (or wife. You never know)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:56 AM
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Yes they exist biologically different in chemistry and evolutionary "purpose" yes they can be positive in a 50/50 way. It is due to women's more patient and conflict averse nature that they live longer lives. Dude, going only masculine gets you killed
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:53 AM
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Right. But killing traites like nurturing traits, emotional adeptness, self care, and other traits you'd deem "effeminate" is killing portions of a person's life adeptness and life skills. Many men don't know how to cook because its effeminate, and don't participate in intellectualism because they see it as antithetical to the physicality that masculinity emphasizes, and thus deduce it is feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:46 AM
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Effeminate traites and masculine traites can both be positive for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:42 AM
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any limitation on positive traits are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:36 AM
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Men on average oversimplify their life and their possible routs in life Healthy humans shouldn't kill a NATURAL part of themselves. Men shouldn't be averse to things like self-care, emotional intellegence, intellectualism, and other traits simply because they are considered "feminine". There is a reason why women are more versatile, more emotionally mature and adept to life in general compared to men. Why do you think single women fare better than single men? There is also a reason why women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:35 AM
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Not really. Most close freinds are close because of their minimalized availability, which allowed the bond to be that strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 02:21 AM
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Masculinity literally requires you to kill a part of yourself and limit the complexity you can have. You can be ambitious and take calculated risks without being regimented in masculinity, Masculinity DOES NOT encourage risk taking. It just encourages unrestricted impulsivity. In actuality it is masculinity that keep men from making fulfilling friendship's (which require both platonic intimacy and vulnerability; things antithetical to masculinity) and discourages any form of selfcare, trading it…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:24 AM
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Holy shit man...dude you can debate a person whose a teenager. goddamn, yall be acting like this is something sexual or summ This is just an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:06 AM
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I don't men do because (if you actually read my comment) men are socialized to exclusively depend on romance for any form of intimacy outside of family. So they naturally think that romance is the only way for them to have a satisfying relationship with a person. Under social norms men are averse to showing vulnerability outside of family and romantic partners. For that reason, any form of satisfying company they can have outside of romance and family is immediately cut off, and they are funnele…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:05 AM
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Bro😭 Ain't no way you actually brought up a point you couldn't back
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:57 AM
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dying alone What do you think close friends are for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:53 AM
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Marriage is a risk with overall net negatives for both parties. (Masculinity isn't something that men should inherently value btw. Centering that in your life is the easiest way to limit your life satisfaction )
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:51 AM
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Yeah... That fucking sucks balls. Why tf do men always have to assume the chief executive role in every relationship, and have to sacrifice his hobbies? Fear of marriage is not a sign of cowardness. Its a sign of preference and tbh, a sign of intelligence. No person with a brain iq higher than room temp would take up an offer like that with that much of a net-negative
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:49 AM
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Healthier than single men Because most men don't adopt healthy lifestyles. The woman usually brings her healthier lifestyle (more nutritious cooking, schedualling appointments etc.) with her into the marriange. This isn't more healthy. The single life men inhabit at the moment is simply less healthy than it should be. That "should be", can be seen in marriages. Wealthier than single men Duel income, and family benifits will do that More emotionally supported Because men fail to find emotional su…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:41 AM
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grass is green
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:24 AM
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I already did. didn't find anything. Which is why i'm going to ask you AGAIN: example?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:24 AM
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example?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:00 AM
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dude NOBODY on the left is saying "keep your legs closed h0*" Why do you think the left is pro-abortion rights
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:44 PM
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High fertility does not equate to social or economic advancement. In many low‑income countries, high birth rates are a direct response to high infant mortality: families have more children to ensure that some survive into adulthood. At the same time, these children—and their parents—often lack the access, resources, and social influence needed to “craft a legacy” through economic, political, or cultural achievements, precisely because widespread poverty and underdevelopment limit opportunities f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 11:33 PM
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feminism won't die lmao. its taken root in most other countries and is growing in places like the regions most likely to have population booms. Same with liberalism and progressivism. Humanity naturally wants to move forward Who woulda thunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 04:25 AM
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loneliness doesn't need to be solved with romance. Just company and connection. Friendship does that in spades and lasts longer
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:10 AM
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Homelessness and food insecurity. Read my fucking lips next time. We don't have enough resources to support that many people. ironically the third world countries usually have the highest birth rates. Almost like high birthrate indicates a less advanced civilization without planned birth. We don't need a population boom. We need to stabalize it. the countires who will have the biggest population boom by 2050 are currently 2nd and 3rd world countries. they will be in crisis by that time. We in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:39 AM
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"by choice" and its bc of an absent father, or divorce due to the father being a burden on her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:36 AM
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You care more about how datable they are than anything else. Yeah...wonder why women don't wanna have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:33 AM
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No. its not seen as disdainful. It is however seen as a huge risk and a sacrifice, bc thats what motherhood has always been. More women are learning just what they are ACTUALLY getting into dispite the propaganda of cultural narratives that tell them that having kids will change your life in a way that will make you feel like 1 billion dollars. They are realizing: kids are hard work, and often times break things in a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:31 AM
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As a member of the late section of the current generation (gen-z): let me hold your hand when i tell you: Most of the girls hate kids, and would have heart attacks if they had to have one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:27 AM
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They don't "live like men". They just live naturally. Women are not naturally nurturers. Those roles are socialized into them at early ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:24 AM
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dude, ther world will have 11 billion people by the end of this century and we have yet to fix homelessness and food insecurity in FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES we do not need more people on this planet when we fail to take care of the ones already on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:22 AM
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"should have thought before spreading your legs". Dawg, the left is not the one saying this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:18 AM
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WTF man. He doesn't reserve a right to her body. He never did. This is the most ethically bankrupt argument i've seen on this subreddit. Legally required to give a man sex. Thats just disgusting dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 01:11 AM
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it shouldn't matter that its men on men. Injustice is injustice. They are human beings first, men second
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:33 PM
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Yeah: because they don't try to make them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:23 PM
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Get some friends and move on. If y'all just did that instead of making it your life mission to scare all the women away with your entitlement and misogyny ya'll would have lost your v cards a while ago
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 12:17 AM
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She doesn't owe him sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:53 PM
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lonelyness=/=sexless gets some freinds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:46 PM
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Not getting sex isn't a male issue. The male community has far bigger issues at hand like education and suicide. Sex doesn't matter in life
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:41 PM
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basic human decency
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:39 PM
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The imbalance is that women get approached by individuals who aren't good for relationships more. Again: why are you asking this like its a gotcha?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:00 PM
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ok? Never said they weren't either. Why are you bringing this point up like its a counterargument
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:09 PM
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Because they usually aren't as good as they think they are. That, and many don't put effort into attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:04 PM
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Women aren't laser left swiping. Women get approached a lot by multitudes of men who are not good for relationships. they have to filter those people out
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 05:03 PM
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No. I'm saying stop centering that stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:24 PM
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good. then stop overvaluing romance. It won't make you happier. Just disappointed. This overvaluation and co-dependence is keeping you from enjoying the good life you have I'd suggest therapy to solve that co-dependency. Most men are socialized into this trapped mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:23 AM
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ok and? You should still have those life skills no matter WHAT
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:19 AM
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I know the problem. You don't adopt life skills that would make your life easy enough for you to not rely on the presence of a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:16 AM
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life skills matter in general outside of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:12 AM
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life skills matter in general outside of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:12 AM
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Jesus christ. You don't need sex or romantic intimacy. Ya'll act like sex and romantic intimacy is like water.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:10 AM
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do you do anything that isn't for a date? Being a good person should be a no given no matter if you get rewarded or not. Men need that in general. Being a person of good quality is a good thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:07 AM
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"if it won't get me a date i won't do it" I think i know your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:02 AM
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"if it won't get me a date i won't do it" I think i know your problem
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:02 AM
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she's supposed to wait. If he can, why can't she?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:48 AM
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this is a false narrative ya'll gotta stop bro💀 the 20% 80% shit is the most bs thing that is based on app metrics. And only 38% of women use those apps anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:46 AM
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ok? We know. Stop trying to to act like most people support it, and stop dodging the fact that you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:35 PM
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young women have become way more liberal actually. so no. Even if they are red, they are usually still anti-traditionalism, and are just there for the economic policy. Not the cultural/social policies
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:33 PM
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52% voted for harris 46% voted trump. most of the voters for trump were aging women from the farmland.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:29 PM
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still disgusting though legal=/=good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:07 AM
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Many people have natures that are loving, gentle, and kind. They don't need to be "pressured" into it. Empathy is a skill, not a given. Decades of developmental psychology show that while infants exhibit rudimentary forms of social interest, fully‑fledged empathy and altruism require learning—through parental modeling, social norms, and reinforcement. If kindness were purely innate, we’d see uniformly prosocial behavior across all cultures and individuals, but we don’t. The human brain is wired …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:08 AM
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fun fact: only 38% of women in the u.s use dating apps. And the u.s is the biggest consumer of dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:54 PM
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that instability usually comes from the dude. Many men interpret career women as competative simply off the basis that they care just as much about their profession as the man in the relationship. As such, he becomes more confrontational, and often times more rowdey. Women don't shame. Society on the otherhand, often does, as it contrasts from the masculine centric nuclear dynamic society forced on itself for years
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:51 PM
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Dude, most women are disgusted by the idea of a sugar daddy. Unless its an early millinial, they WILL NOT fuck with them. Especially with the current generation's (rightful) aversion of age gaps
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:48 PM
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I mean...if anything, its more common to have the man leverage them being a breadwinner as a tactic of manipulation. Most of these examples often times come down to how the man interprets the economic power imbalance. Most women will not shame a dude for earning less. she'd probably be just as manipulative without the economic advantage. She's just using another avenue to manipute. A women earning more is not a red flag. Tbh its a green, as it shows she is none reliant and has a life outside of …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:18 PM
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because most women aren't for sugar daddies lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 10:12 PM
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it is actually. Ofc don't be BROKE. but if you show responsibility and activness in life, then that'll take you places. You aren't trying to attract. This isn't like fishing contrary to what many say. its a job application
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:16 AM
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I didn't say financially responsible. Just responsible in general in all areas. again: jobs and wealth are *A* sign of activeness in life, and responsibility. If those women aren't pleased at that point, its not your fault, nor your obligation to please them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 04:02 AM
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bro unless you live in the hood idk what 7th grader is hitting 6ft. If you're under 5'8" you still have high chances. Unless you are around the 5'3" and bellow range, its all ball. But if you are within that range, women of the smaller stature (5'5" and bellow) won't care unless you're bellow 4'6". Then you're pool gets much more limited. Continue on and your options get shorter and less The only off limits for all girls in general no matter what Hight is like...3-2'9", you can make it Shorter m…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:58 AM
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Ok? that isn't a factor in my desicion. My opinions form from observation. Not because i want to support someone. I won't hold my opinion just because the another demographic benefits. What women do on this sub will not influence how i objectively see her point as right and yours as wrong. I'm not a ride or die buffoon. My thoughts and opinions are my own. Its not a double standard, since the standard doesn't even exist. Men are not socially obligated to defend or look the other way for men, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:50 AM
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is said A-C-T-I-V-N-E-S-S Like ACT.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:37 AM
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women and men are not the same in biology, but can be prone to universal traites
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:33 AM
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Well no. Male sexuality is just as indulgent as female sexuality. Male sexuality isn't noble, and neither is female sexuality Lmao, take that pink pill tag off and just say you are a redpilled woman, No women are not nurturing loving, beautiful and gentle. thats the societal PRESSURE put on women. Those are not what women natuarally are. Women are human, and just like all human's, they are prone to temptation and self-desire. they are prone to hate. They are prone to be callous. And thats ok. We…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:33 AM
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Ofc, but they aren't looking for a guy with jobs and resources specifically. Just responsibility and activeness. Jobs and money can be A sign of that, but they rarely take it to the extreme when they seek out the signs of the aforementioned qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:27 AM
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lmao they won't care. Unless you so small you get outcompeted in hight by 7th graders, they won't care. They WILL care if you are overcompensating for what you see as a shortcoming, which many do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:24 AM
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yeah...you forget most women are progressive. Most hate traditionalism due to how limiting it can be and how strict it is. Women of the my generation (late gen-z) see it as an afront to individualism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:16 AM
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Women like the feeling of being taken care of, it doesn't matter if they can take care of themselves. Used to. Now its kinda patronizing in todays context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:08 AM
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Not ironic at all. God forbid a guy critique other men. We're a demographic, not a sports team stop this whataboutism. Besides, they already acknowledge the faults within their community dude. Some actually wrongfully critique each other (like Lilith being the professional rage baiter she is) How fragile does your moral integrity have to be to that you don't stand for whats correct/right in a situation because people part of the same demographic didn't defend your people? but practicecontrol2179…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:07 AM
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there is no honor in watching porn. thats why you shouldn't do it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:59 AM
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Common sense? The main reason why women looked for a partner in the past was because it was the only way to access resources. Now they can get resources. They looked for a partner to gain access to status. Online social media is a grand equalizer now. ANYONE can gain status. And when everyone has access to status, its no longer the romantically attractive novelty. That just leaves them with one thing to romanticize: the romance itself. since the late 90s-2000s we have seen an uptick in emphasis …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:53 AM
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i'm just going to play it here: I mean...its not like female sexuality is any honorable either. It doesn't have leading, love, or being strong as a part of it. Most of it from what one can see is just indulgence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:40 AM
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One has honor, because objectively speaking, loving leading and being strong is more honorable than beating your dick every night to porn
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:39 AM
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dude....women deadass dgaf about resources in the 2nd quarter of the 21rst century. They can already earn their resources. Women are primarily looking for someone because they want a companion. Status means nothing in this day and age, because we are living in a "idgaf" era. The most conversational, responsible, sociable, socially adept and funniest guys get the most girls. Unless you look below mid, these are the only things you need. You can have the most insane resources, and be the president…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:36 AM
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to me, i think men do enough of it for both genders💀 men have shamed it so much, you'd thing gold diggers and prostitutes were the most common types of women. Those types of people only get seen on twitter and instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:36 AM
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You think those men were abusive when they approached her? You think they abused her during there dating and faience stage? These abusers often hide behind a faulty mask that comes off once they've secured their victim
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:35 AM
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Who gaf? They are shallow charlatans, who seek relationships for ulterior motives
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 03:03 AM
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there is. bc most women are lowkey cautious when around men. Many subconsciously see men as potential threats and a large risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 02:07 AM
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a lot of women only gain attraction from those who they are familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:54 AM
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most of these guys problems are so self inflicted. half of them just give up before they even approach the start
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:53 AM
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as if most men aren't even dumber when it comes to trying to interpret women,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:51 AM
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have you asked them out...or are you just waiting for one to approach you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:49 AM
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Most girls aren't focused on sex dummy. Do you understand female socialization?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:43 AM
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All you guys care about is the getting, and never the maintaining. being attractive does diddly squat if you lack the relationship skills and personal development required to keep the flame alive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:40 AM
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well those men can remove themselves from the dating pool, and the gene pool tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:38 AM
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you don't see results because you don't TRY. You have to realize, most women don't have dating on their mind. You have to simultaneously convince these women to be open to date, and exclusively date you when you approach
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 01:34 AM
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Actually its worse. Most guys don't get taught anything, and due to the cultural climate, treat most women like dogshit. and unfortunately women of my generation are used to that treatment. Like literal dogshit with the most blatant sexual harassment, and creep and actual pervert behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:23 PM
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i don't have to be a man to know, people 5 years older going for people that young are gross and should be locked up. Doesn't matter if its legal, its still a sign they are attracted to youth. thats a red flag right there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:28 AM
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bro, lemme tell you: pretty much no woman wants to be approached. only people in this world who want to be approached are men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:23 AM
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Dude I can't do jackshit yet. I haven't even graduated yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:51 AM
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yeah...most people are like angry new yorkers these days. so...is it LSD?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:49 AM
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tf did i do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:48 AM
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you don't. you just live life. ain't hard. if one of them has the balls to approach you consider. (wanna explain to me wtf a single event is?)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:48 AM
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yeah, bc people back then were desperate for relationships and thought they were the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Thank god for social media revealing: most of us don't fuck with one another
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:34 AM
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What experience are you talking about? Acid trips?💀
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:31 AM
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oh hell no, i know the angry teen population is heigh up there
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:30 AM
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bc she don't know you like that dawg.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:29 AM
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Dating apps is....a hell hole to say the least. Friend matching you gotta be top 10 ways to fail ngl. Single events...(tf is that?) its not the 2010s anymore. Hobby groups died in 2022.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:27 AM
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legal ≠ not creepy. a 30 year old trying to get a girl whose still in college is always going to be creepy no matter what. He most likely would go for ages lower if the law didn't make it illegal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 01:23 AM
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No. still creepy. Legal≠mature/matured developmentally and anatomically
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:06 AM
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my bad dawg. They don't teach us this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:04 AM
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ya'll keep proving to me TRP are the true missandrists
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:54 PM
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Its not testosterone. Its just lack of emotional intelligence as a result of male socialization, and the lack of emotional guidence that leads to underdeveloped emotional awareness and overtolerated outbursts (often seen as "natural male aggression") This all makes men more impulsive and undisciplined. male socialization in a sense is like an undercooked version of female socialization, with an added emphasis on physicality and more punishing consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:49 PM
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we have hormonal cycles?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:42 PM
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Most young men aren't having chivalry taught as a requirement in the treatment of women catch up old man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:42 PM
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no not really. Women during the day tend to exhibit a wider scope of emotions than men. Mainly bc most men are in a default state of apathy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:39 PM
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high school friends being availible or maintained after more than 2 years are rare. The younger generation treats life like they are an angry new yorker. College is no different church...? huh? dude i'm not religious but even if i was, i'm not treating a person differently than i would any other stranger just because they are from my church. My first question would be "Why were you eyeing me when we're supposed to be atoning for our sins. Freind groups are far more tribalistic gender-wise, and e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:27 PM
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Only 34% of women use dating apps...in the U.S. The primary consumer of said dating apps. Those don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:19 PM
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"i saw it on youtube" is not the gotcha you think it is dawg. Most people are doing their thing. An unplanned encounter from a rando is an unwanted interaction. Ya'll forget most people (at least in the west and westernized east, are angry New Yorkers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:18 PM
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But there’s nothing nefarious or malicious about seeing a cute girl in a coffee shop and asking her what she’s drinking or saying you like her shirt or whatever How is this approaching a woman? But if you’re 35 and genuinely meet a 23 year old — that in and of itself is not creepy. 0-0 Dude, if a 35 year old finds attraction to a woman born when he was 12...yes. it will always be creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:12 PM
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he's eastern european. they didn't get in that shit. They did enslave the slavs (which is where we get "slave" from btw)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:07 PM
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cold approaching=objectively unasked and unwanted
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:04 PM
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Stagflation like...the 70s?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 11:01 PM
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Men are the one's who make male sexuality sound disgusting. Men keep talking about sex with women like its something that is done to women. Men keep saying men prefer younger women. Men are the ones who consume gross sex fantasies from porn sites, and project those fantasies in the bedroom. Men repeatedly show that they see women only in an objectifying way. And then men treat the prior traits as normal for men Can you really blame them for having contempt for male sexuality? (btw idk why you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:57 PM
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didn't know "$" was one of the genes in women gen-z women especially do not give 3 fucks about status or money. Legitimatly speaking, they know well enough to realize, the rich and high of status, have highest potential to be jackassess
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:50 PM
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We live in a time where women enjoy all the economic...rights 82cents for every 1 dollar in terms of wage huh? social...rights 💀🤣dude...a-are you blind or sumn?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:47 PM
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well thats not gross...WTF man💀 Women in their 30s are still fertile. If you're masculinity requires the women to be hyper feminine, and submissive, then you are too fragile ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:42 PM
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No person irl is actually following the 666 model. Legitimately speaking. Thats only stuff you see on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:36 PM
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kinda is ngl. 25 yo knows way more about the world than a 20 year old who ony 2 years ago graduated from high school
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:31 PM
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I'd stick to younger, not because they were "easier to manipulate", but because there was a greater likelihood they were still single. Lmao you could just look at their finger or strike a conversation, and sneakily get that info out of them indirectly. Don't target younger. Shit IS creepy. Just keep looking
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:27 PM
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💀 Lets just get this outta the way: most people are not going to respond well to someone unprompted requesting them of something that's situationally irrelevant to the setting. Like would YOU reply to some guy who approached you in the super market. Ya'll overestimate how socially awkward and unasked approaching people is. Most women aren't even in the market, and have to be convinced to enter the market and exclusively choose the person convincing her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:24 PM
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the internet radicalizes people through content algorythms hungry to get as much content that will make you click on them. And whaddyuknow...most of it is made to make you pissed
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:19 PM
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most abusers hide behind the "good men" outward appearance, then switch on it once they've caught an unsuspecting victime
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:12 PM
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rejection ≠ it will never work
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:54 PM
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Men in power aren't passing discriminatory laws against men for women's benefit. men just tend to be the collateral for their decision
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:38 PM
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Its not though. its for those men's personal benefit. Not women's Usually fgm is done by the request of either the father, or the husband
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:50 PM
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Women fucking hate fuck boys. Stop acting like the world is a celebrity tabloid. Most women aren't looking for playboys. They never have. In fact, they never look period. Men must encourage the woman to enter the dating market, and persuade them to choose them once they've entered, at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:11 PM
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Because that FGM is primarily done for the benefit of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 07:04 PM
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your right, i made a mistake. porn is just contempt for the human body.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:50 PM
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attack those movements then. not the people who these movements are overreacting and outright whining about. the men making it a problem is are only problems
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:20 PM
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But it is an issue that should be talked about and fixed somehow. Only you can fix your problems. this is an individual problem that individual men have. Just because they want something doesn't mean they need it, or reserve the right to have access to it. Those two factors only refer to human rights and humane treatment. Not subjective desire
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:18 PM
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I understand your black pilled so this may not penetrate your thick skull, but that ability is not inherent. Anyone can have the skills necessary to attract a person. You just need to exploit the things you have, and add to the traites you got, while removing the detrimental variable qualities you got
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:14 PM
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"chads" don't exist. Ya'll would literally call any guy who got a girlfriend a "chad".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:11 PM
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yep. they keep misdiagnosing it as a system the world has set up against them as an individual. They don't even understand how its primarily men who discriminate against men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:10 PM
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Red pillers will complain about some sexist double-standard around relationships (like women rarely initiating) Lmao thats not sexism. Thats women's choice not to initiate. You don't have to initiate either. You still act like people being approached is a right that people must have access to or else its not fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:09 PM
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There is an issue in the western 2020s world, where a lot of men are struggling to find relationships. thats their problem. not womens's. making it women's problem just makes women less inclined to wanna care. Aging populations and birth rate decline is a legitimate issue we are projected to have 11 billion people on earth we'll have to feed by 2100. declining birth rates are a blessing in disguise tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:05 PM
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most guys don't express they are having a bad time
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:57 PM
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I already explained how your example doesn't show how its not harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:36 AM
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Seeing someone as an object to own, hurts relationships. It strips away emotional bond. Objectification=dehumanization and devaluation of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:29 AM
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don't think objectification is inherently bad. Don't all healthy monogamous relationships require some level of mutual objectification? no. thats usually why relationships fail. If you strip someone down to material value there is no human bond Do you think it'd be better if she said "whatever, he can do whatever he wants, it's not like I own him". The former arguably indicates that they have a healthier, stabler relationship with more passion. She wants him because she see's him as her property…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:53 AM
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all porn is a sign of contempt for the female body. Its objectifying and one of the only objective sins in this universe that both atheists and religious fanatics should agree on should be condemned
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:36 AM
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thats a good thing btw. more societal output to human advancement
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:29 AM
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Just because you've never been or will be loved doesn't mean the rest of us can't. stop projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:28 AM
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reciprocation of affection
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:26 AM
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"it" as in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:18 AM
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WOW...ITS ALMOST LIKE A FEW PEOPLE CAN'T CHANGE A SOCIATAL AND SOCIALLY INGRAINED PROBLEM. Dude we are trying to address it Shit like socialized men's issues don't go into the mainstream, and when they do the part of the advocacy who misdiagnose it, takes the advocacy hostage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:14 AM
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female friendships are WAY different from male relationships. We don't get the affirmation, or attention unless its in a depression/suicide situation in freindships
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:58 AM
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because men's social status is more influenced by women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:55 AM
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whenever women do that, they get called wh()r3s and sl#ts Is it really a wonder why women do this? Female sexuality is still reviled by the masses. So most don't mention it lest they get singled out and crucified
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:55 AM
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dude, have you seen TRP on this sub. half of them are one pill away from blackpill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:52 AM
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they...often can be ngl. Those types of guys typically have no middle. Its either secure good guy, or jackass who exploits their physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:50 AM
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TRP has a 9/11 every time this comes up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:49 AM
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I don't think men's portrayals of women typically dehumanizes women in any way, it just focuses on women being overtly sexual, which doesn't make them non-human. When you strip a character/person down to their sex appeal, and make that their defining trait, you have removed their humanity, since thier character no longer is defined by their actions, but rather by how people externally see them. They simply become empty vessels for sick men. This also misses the acceptability of say, women lustin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:21 AM
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dude, men REVERE these men as "alpha" men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:53 PM
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Because it happens to them a lot, and men tend to show attraction to them indirectly; so much so, that women often feel like thats all these men see in them: a pretty human that can be conquered for sexual gain Not an individual with hopes, dreams, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:52 PM
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women's sexuality is seen as fucking underwear. people revile it to the extreme for no reason The problem with male gaze type content is that it straight up dehumanizes women to the extreme, and makes them out as merely tools or dolls for men's desire
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:44 PM
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eww
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:24 PM
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natural. coaches make you replicate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 05:02 AM
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Ok women these days don't give a flying FUCK about money from men, since we live in a 50/50 era, and most women can get money themselves. If they aren't interested in good men, then you are dodging a bullet. Women who like "bad boys" have some sort of trauma 68% of the time, 20% of the time are insufferable, and 12% are insane. being a nice guy (and being genuine about it) is the best way to filter out the minority of women under 45 who actually like jackasses
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:46 AM
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lmao, nice joke
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:38 AM
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whats ppb??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:37 AM
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D: ew
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:29 AM
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except YOU are the reason why you are poor in this case. Personality, and traits of self-improvement are the currency of the dating market. YOU have to change. The world isn't going to shift for one measly wimp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:26 AM
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women hate bad boys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:22 AM
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most "biological behaviors" are socialized most women don't like older men anymore Its foolish and archaic to want to have kids in the modern era
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:21 AM
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Women's actions align with their OWN ACTIONS. The problem is that, unlike men, women tend to exhibit a wider range of personality traits, as they are generally allowed to express both masculine and feminine qualities, resulting in greater complexity and diversity in their personalities, thus making for a wider and less consistent average in terms of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:16 PM
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ok? and? doesn't change the fact that ya'll are making wrongful assumptions that are keeping young men who are listening, single. "But they did it" doesn't change the fact that its stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:10 PM
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No it hasn't. dude, women have changed. Ya'll give limp dick energy. And this is coming from a guy. Ya'll come off as over compensating for a personal failure
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 11:05 PM
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dude i'm not made to fight and die. I'm made to create and wonder
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:46 AM
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the redpill hasn't worked since the 90s lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:36 AM
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"Oh WoE iS mE" stop pathologizing lmao. the problem is YOU🫵🏿. Only YOU can fix it. Don't expect the world to change just to make you happy. Idk how to tell you this, but the idea that women are looking for chads, is a gen-x myth. Most women aren't even looking. Men just fall in their lap, and they usually decide. If you legitimately are chasing women into abusive/asshole men, you are begging to get a girl consumed by trauma. And most girls don't fuck with tryhards or unnaturals. Even if you do b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:32 AM
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they usually don't but not in terms of dating advise. Most of these women are spot on when it comes to most women. They just aren't representative, because most women aren't ideological in any fashion beyond having an aversion to conservatives
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:57 AM
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women don't look for chads. The average couple will be a guy thats mid, and a woman whose above average. Meanwhile the guys on minimum wage. Only reason why she like him is because he can make her laugh. Women are looking for companions. They don't care about protectors anymore. Everytime they see a person prop themselves up as a "protector" its sends them off, bc guess what? to them its cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:55 AM
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Most women aren't having sex with "fuck boys" . Most don't just give there bodies and usually will not even let the person in their house if they aren't kind. Its not that hard to get a girlfreind. Literal nerds built like toothpicks who are broke are able to pull. Every type of guy has been able to get a woman. Ya'll just give up easier than most. Finding a girl takes trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 12:50 AM
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Not like asking men about women is any better considering how clouded most men are by women. Most men's actions show a clear sign they don't understand how women work anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:39 PM
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Women's words usually do align with their actions. Problem is, you confuse the words of one woman, with the actions of another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:36 PM
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except you rarely do. ya'll love pathologizing women, while requiring other men to tell how women "work" (even though they are as clueless as you on the subject)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 11:35 PM
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Why is this something we need to debate about? should be considered common sense. Not sure whose going to counter this, but despite my tag, it ain't going to be me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 02:25 AM
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what argument are you putting forth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:55 PM
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ok. so why tf are you trying to court her? She's way too young for you. Fucking creep
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:18 AM
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you were literally waiting for her. If society allowed you to date 15-17 year olds, you would have done it by now. Aren't you 30 or something? You're gross dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:14 AM
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yes. actually legitimatly yes. Be more calculated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:55 AM
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They usually don't say they are happy though. Being single for most women is a walk in the park since they got platonically intimate friends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:42 AM
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dude why are you chasing 18 yos?????????? FBI
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:39 AM
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dude they ALL LOOKED THE SAME. They looked like clones with the same hairstyle same clothes (per economic class) same everything. bland af
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:40 AM
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women have less libido on average
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:55 PM
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highlights? sure
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:51 PM
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which part do you want me to read dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:45 PM
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WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION???????????
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:36 PM
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hell no they weren't. They beat their wives and didn't care about marital gr*pe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:32 PM
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why are you so inclined to look🤨
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:13 AM
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Denying men the same services is oppression, you don't get to say it's not because men are big meanies. Three separate incidents from the past several years: Nobody is denying men anything. Men can still make these services but fail to. Ah here it is, those men's shelters closing and a lack of government services for men and men's issues is ok, because women historically had it worse!! What a surprising notion, the feminist gets everything she wants and then denies men everything lol. God bless …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:07 AM
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Where is the evidence that mra's are particularly against the right to abortion. Show me when they protested abortion rights? I think you and i know majority of MRA activity is online. And their opinions of abortion often times cross the conservative "but i should have a say bc i'm the father" bs. This is just projection.Again show me when mra's have been against women's advocacy.Mra's are not opposed to addressing women's issues.What they are against is trivializing men's issues and demonizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:46 AM
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Mra's are the only ones who are actually progressive when it comes to men.Which is why the face so much backlash and why it is much harder for them to make progress.Their challenging the ingrained biases that people have towards men and women.Feminist aren't doing that, their exploiting our ingrained biases,which is why they have become massively influential in such a short time period. Feminist advocates have long framed paid paternity leave as essential to redistributing care work and dismantl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:46 AM
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They also consistently portray men as agentic perpetrators and women as passive victims. This is often the case though (though women are rarely just passive) but men are the cause of majority of women's oppression, and majority of the misogyny they experience from day to day life. Whether you like that portrayal of women's oppression doesn't really matter when its the truth. Feminist discourage people from showing compassion to male victims,and men's issues in general.. its no longer 2015 dude, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:46 AM
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They may claim to want men to be free from traditional masculinity, and many of the negative aspects of it like not being able to express their emotions.Yet they fight to perpetuate traditional masculinity. They are at the forefront of fighting against traditional masculinity. In fact every time they do, MRA keep claiming they are demonizing ALL masculinity and try to shut them down. They tried to shutdown a speech were Warren farell was talking about male suicide. Yeah....bc its fucking Warren …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:45 AM
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I can spell. can people not make mistakes??? Again: stop distracting from the point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:14 AM
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I can spell. can people not make mistakes??? Again: stop distracting from the point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 04:14 AM
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Dude, many of the issues MRA pretends to oppose are ones originally talked about by feminism, like men's pressure to lack emotion, and other man bubble negatives.. I'm talking about MRA being against women's rights to abortion, MRA being against any form of women's advocacy, MRA trying to claim women aren't oppressed, etc. If you want effective and actual societal analysis id suggest the Men's Liberation Movement, as they actually DO THINGS independent of the feminist movement and actually want …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:56 AM
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Did you go to college? Not yet. Gotta graduate HS first. still in junior rn. Dude, make an argument instead of being tedious over a simple spelling mistake. It just makes you look impulsive and honestly immature at best. And at worst you sound like you want to change the subject from an argument you can't win
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:33 AM
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Media promoted father figures can be dogshit. things are changing but vast majority only show the father as this breadwinning dumbass whose only brawn, no brains, and lacks any emotional intelligence but gets pardoned for that because "thats natural in men". We ARE seeing a shift towards more flexible fathers, who actually want to raise thier child instead of throwing it to the mother, and actually display the full healthy range of human emotions beyond "boys will be boys" type behavior, and emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:22 AM
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is this satire?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:03 AM
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Nazis hated women. tf are you talking 'bout, boy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:01 AM
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Yes to all of that, but a lot of them do not push back where their gender benefits them like in child custody cases-...even little things like paying for dates, which even in the world of equality, a lot still expect men to do. child custody cases and often go to women's side, simply because the man is usually the reason why the divorce is happening, and often lacks parenting experience. Paying for dates is a gender norm that feminism has already addressed. maybe going for that job in child care…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 01:01 AM
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A lot of MRA efforts are simply there to combat any progress feminism makes. Mras were a reaction to feminism often failing at simple societal analysis to make excuses why feminism is somehow bad for men, despite men benefitting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:51 AM
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academic success requires extreme personal development in personal feilds that make you a better person, and ultimately help with upward economic mobility. Academic success usually gets up and prime for intellectual success in intellectual persuits. Something men desperately need to improve on these days
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:48 AM
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"insane amount of money" is fucking wild
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:44 AM
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Men do, hence the support for ideas like the "paper abortion" and mandatory paternity tests Safe spaces for survivors of domestic or sexual violence exist because ** women experience these crimes at dramatically higher rates**. According to the WHO, about 1 in 3 women worldwide has been physically or sexually abused by an intimate partner. Creating dedicated resources for the disproportionately affected group is corrective equity, not oppression. And feminist advocacy that results in the prevent…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:43 AM
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No. This is maybe the least confrontational generation of boys ever. This is probably one of the MOST confrontational. Like, the amounts of "fuck you going to do about it" type interactions is at another level now. Do you really think this is a new attitude? How old are you It wasn't as publicly endorsed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:42 PM
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feminism is liberating women. thats fixing society not destroying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:35 PM
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feminism is about women's rights and social liberation. Maybe men should make our own movement (that isn't overrun by mra shitheads) to promote equality in favor of men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:04 AM
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its NOT in your genes bro Believe me when i say: socialization fucks around society so much, we've become accustomed to calling it a biological norm
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 12:00 AM
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Change it? Easy: Feminism was illogical at the start. It was about women’s equal rights, which is a contradiction. You can’t demand equality while emphasizing difference This is a false equivalence. Equality in rights does not mean sameness in every aspect of identity. The feminist movement has always acknowledged biological and social differences between men and women—but the demand was for equal access to opportunities, representation, legal protection, and autonomy. You can acknowledge gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:57 PM
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If you replaced men with "male socialization" & women with "female socialization" I'd agree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:53 PM
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anti-intellectualism is a social issue. NOT political by any measure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:42 PM
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Dude, most men don't want their value to be based on their looks. Thats not only shallow, but is a poor way to determine one's value to society. Its also dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:38 PM
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I also did have a selfish motive, which is boosting my own ego as a part of 8+ inches club. Unless i see visual proof i'm not beleiving this bs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:16 PM
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how about compatibility and how nice it is to be with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:13 PM
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💀
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:12 PM
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"players" end up single and alone by 50
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:05 PM
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More credible coming from a woman than whatever bullshit he was saying
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:04 PM
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We just want to be seen as a sexual object. "We?" Did you misspell Wii? As in Nintendo Wii? Bc I know you didn't jus project that onto the rest of us like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:00 PM
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which is why we gotta make masculinity more flexible and less dependent on the state of women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:51 PM
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because the current form is dragging men down and keeping them from valuing intellectualism. We could fix this gap in academic performance easily, by making masculinity focus more on intellectual pursuits more than the physical, so that boys excell in academics rather than fail outright. We are slowly entering an intellectual centered world, and are inching away from a physically based society. Men must adapt of they will suffer in this new paradise
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:41 PM
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They are though. The maximum competitivity and anti-intellectualism, as well and aversion to refinement and self-driven improvement is detrimental to boys, which is why gen-z is so undercooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:30 PM
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No. We already have changed the form of masculunity before and it remained masculinity. Did you read the post??? during the 80s we fostered another form of masculinity that dominated the mainstream, and that misaligned with what has ALWAYS been required and what was once met by the previous form of masculinity. The current form of masculinity we have leads to lack of academic success due to its anti-intellectualism, and lack of discipline and refinement and any self-driven development and humili…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:29 PM
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It is. because those ideals misalign with A LOT of what society is now. This neo-masculinity is harming boys in places beyond the classroom If we are to fix this, we must improve these ideals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:13 PM
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The masculine ideal is what makes us men Wrong. The only thing that makes you a man, is your dick and balls. Thats all that is required of you to be a man. Manhood in a form of humanity. Not a performance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:09 PM
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What men lost is what makes them naturally satisfied, which is being strong physically, having high testosterone, being dominant in their lives. Which you consider bad traits, because you want a feminized world, where men and women act the same, like women.' Dude, men have not lost strong physicality. I'd actually say its increased with the fact that we have WAY more fights and physical delinquency in schools idk how you lose high testosterone unless its age but ok We live in a post modern socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:07 PM
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The education system is targeted towards a very small minority of people, mainly women who are in their early 20s No...the education system never targetted women, and at its foundations has not changed since 1948. Men specifically can't sit down for 8 hours everyday, from 6 to 25 years old Then how come they were able to in the past? Forcing them to do so, created a generation of obedient soy boys that shit bricks when talking to a woman. This generation is the most unruly and delinquent group w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:01 PM
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Yeah, but the masculine ideal we spawned post 70s, misaligns with the required traites to succeed in the classroom setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:45 PM
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READ WHAT I TYPED I didn't say we have to abandon masculinity. But the CURRENT FORM THAT SPAWNED DURING THE 80S misaligns with what has ALWAYS been needed to succeed and what men ONCE did align with: cooperation, and intellectualism as well as REFINEMENT
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:44 PM
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I'm not talking about college. And boys have SIGNIFICANTLY lower gpa on average than girls in k-12 education. Ofc, its not the school's fault. its the current form of masculinity misaligning with the values needed to succeed in schools
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:41 PM
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They play. They fight. They find their spot in the hierarchy through physicality. We are beyond most animals, because we are a society, we have a more complex forms of socialization and are FAR more self aware of this. Also we should NOT be fostering hierarchies among individuals. This is how we form male insecurity and obssession Today, children who behave like children, specially boys that behave like boys, are punished, suspended, zero-tolerance policied. if acting like boys means disobedienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:38 PM
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dude, its primarily the men who play and promote these dick waving contests not women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:04 PM
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why do men prefer bigger tits? isn't that shit painful???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:34 AM
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why participat or perpetuate these dumb games of hierarchy? They are so primitive and sound like something a stone age society would be obsessed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:30 AM
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dude, US MEN created those terms☠️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:15 AM
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hot take: we shouldn't satisfy sick freaks desires to sleep with barely legal looking women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:28 AM
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Men attracted to said adults are attracted to those adults due to their resemblance to younger people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:25 AM
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or maybe we should shun men from being creeps, and publicly humiliate those who indulge in those actions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:10 AM
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yeah. and look how satisfied those men who sleep around are.🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:43 AM
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they say it because IT IS. would YOU date an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:43 AM
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you're so wrong. 😭 Dude, most women crave their men being nice and decent people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:42 AM
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yes there is. We call those men potential p3dos and they are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:40 AM
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this is objectively false. Men have been statistically and scientifically proven to be way more hierarchal, and women have been proven to be more egalitarian. internet is free yk
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 07:43 AM
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How about you just don't solicit women or do porn at all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:37 PM
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Those tv shows often present younger women as more attractive yes. But uh...i don't think it can be objective. its more subjective. Unfortunatly, our subjective viewpoints are often manipulated by our environment at an early age
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:08 PM
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we can. And are. But you have a stake in this too. Fighting for change requires both sides
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:14 AM
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yet redpills solicit women and prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:42 AM
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Its not being put on women. It just effects you a lot. You get a lot of toxic and dangerous men out of boys who have to activly search for role models, and often find them in the recesses of the internet. You're looking at an anti-Tate. Idk, little thing called patriarchal blinding and often times boys just seeing the word "patriarchy" and thinking its a sign that they are about to get shitted on or "put in their place" or something of the sort
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:32 AM
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ok so why are women so bad for boys? maybe we can change the culture so that boys don't have an aversion to things typically female led. Maybe we can make the culture change so that boys get something out of a female teacher rather than pushing aside good educators for people who wouldn't give a shit about the children if they were payed less
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:21 AM
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uh...well it kinda does become women's problems when those boys become toxic and look for role models in andrew tate
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:15 AM
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we don;t have limited resources when we can allocate money away from dumbass projects and focus on the youth
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 02:12 AM
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we should be paying teachers IN GENERAL better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:35 AM
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Thats like saying a sociologist who focuses primarily on men, has an "aganda"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 11:20 PM
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unless you think this sub represents feminists in any way, i suggest you just sit this one out before you REALLY say something foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:23 AM
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Yeah, but military doesn't make you smarter. just makes you more obedient
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 02:21 AM
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"latley" ? boy they've ALWAYS been finge right wingers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:55 AM
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dude, YA'LL point more attention towards the miniscule misandry than the waves of reform being pushed by women to help men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:51 AM
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most "terfs" are just "te" without the "rf" They aren't radical feminists and don't study any of it usually. they just think terf means they hate transgendered ppl and thats it. No. REAL terfs read the literature at least
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:45 AM
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no. radfems want societal change for female liberation Libfems are just general egalitarians in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:43 AM
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radfems fucking hate islam, tf are you talking about? you are thinking of libfems not radfems
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:42 AM
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Most terfs aren't radfems. They are mostly fake and think "radfem" means hates men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:41 AM
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college helps your social development though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:32 AM
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yeah, but being smarter is just a good quality to have. College also helps develope you more and round out your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:31 AM
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"agenda"💀 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:25 AM
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Read my lips: C U L T U R E Cultures have big influence on standards such as these
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:15 AM
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bc infants obviously aren't influenced by the gendered environment they live in. But even if this was biological: why do we see so many women attracted to non-protective and mid sized men? Why do a majority of women not give a fuck about how tall you are? Why do women avoid traditional relationships where they are subjugated? Why do women see traditional displays of masculinity as desperate and a turn off?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:13 AM
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So your telling me that boomers and gen-x are attracted to skinny women because its logical? Its cultural. When you push those and present a trait as valuable and as something you should be attracted to, to boys and girls still developing, that will impact their preferences in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:00 AM
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just going to drop this here for ya since you don't believe me https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14407833211017672 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5679422/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:29 PM
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actually lesbians tend to be the happies sexuality overall statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:56 AM
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those traites are often the norm bc culturally those are what are pushed as valuable There is a reason its different around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:52 AM
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Men and women are not hardwired beyond environmentally developed sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:48 AM
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exactly! And tbh, they aren't wrong. escalation propensity is the reason men commit the most homicides and are the biggest victims of homicides
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:47 AM
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No. equality is possible. And female empowerment is already happening. More women are choosing their lives and careers over being stuck with someone else Misandry barely exists compared to misogyny which is a bigger problem
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:44 AM
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in almost every culture the men controle the bank account and it is HIS money she has to ask for when she wants to buy. China is no exception
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:29 AM
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yeah, bc south korean women are mostly SINGLE. They hate their men bc a huge portion of the male population is just incels from hell and back
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:25 AM
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yeah. in early stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:24 AM
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its fair and unfair. Its fair bc you should only get what you pay for. but unfair bc culturally she is forced into financial reliance using his bank account
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:04 AM
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Those men do not speak for the majority and fail to control their urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:54 AM
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we should change it. No human's self worth should be a slave to another's opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:14 AM
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Not every man is giving money to cam girls
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:10 AM
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No. YOU are a slave to your sex drive. Don't project onto US
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:09 AM
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No they aren't lol. I've seen women who are 8s who go out with the most broke nerds ever. They just care about kindness bc its so uncommon in modern men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:58 AM
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men are statistically physically hypergamous if you wanna go there
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:57 AM
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you're not funny. get out of here if you can't add anything
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:51 AM
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Sure, but chasing after someone who has such a limited threshold for what they find attractive and are so strict they won't date someone who doesn't meet that limited standard is chasing an already guaranteed unfulfilling relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:20 PM
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There’s nothing shallow about women wanting to date an attractive man and not wanting to date someone they find ugly Its about them having a limited threshold for what they find attractive and having a broader threshold for what they find as a turn off. However, having money will give you access to circles where there’re way more attractive women and lead to more interaction with them. You shouldn't be seeking to gain money to enter circles that wouldn't accept you because of you lack of money. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 04:16 PM
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maybe you shouldn't insult yourself by settling for shallow women and should avoid dating all together if that how you feel, instead of hurting yourself with the with the women in "reality" (despite women rarely having this expectation)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:56 PM
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Then why do your prophets keep saying that educated women are to be avoided?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:51 PM
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you're not funny. Nor are you helping
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:50 PM
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this👆🏿
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:17 PM
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No. you are a faliure if you have a kid and haven't helped progress society beyond making another supply consumer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:38 PM
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We need to get past the idea that choosing based on looks is shallow. In fact its the deepest thing that you can do. Its quit literally the most shallow as you a choosing not on personality, which has a far stronger impact on the relationship and the strength of said relationship. Its shallow to choose someone with a nice personality that you get along with, That could potentially be giving ugly genes to your kids. who said you were choosing ugly people? And who said they have the intention of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 09:27 PM
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Yeah except not all "non-westerns" are muslim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 05:11 AM
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actually false. Stop being lazy and start realizing you're chasing the wrong people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:54 AM
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problem is that men are physically hypergamous in our society and it shows. Its not natural but it is socialized and that can be just as bad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:19 AM
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who are you to judge them as "backwards" You lack nuance
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:20 AM
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No they shouldn't. They should add to the current dating culture in some way. Immagrants should contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:19 AM
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Then leave. This is a community for open discussions from different perspectives
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:16 AM
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you need to realize that if you want to decentralize women, it can't be for the sake of getting women. It has to be for your own benefits. You can't decenter women if you have women as the cause for your decentering
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:00 AM
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Or maybe grow up and take initiative.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:51 AM
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because the father is needed for the development of kids. But fathers barely contribute to parenting. The mother does 80-95% of the parenting leading to an imbalance in life models needed for the kid to look up to and have consistent access to. Without the father their present and consistantly helping and being there at home with the kid on a consistan basis, the kid's going to be incomplete. And that happens to a majority of kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:37 AM
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ofc, men need to decentalize women so to not be co-dependent on women. But if they want to get a woman once they decentralize, they need to actually approach with trial and error
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:34 AM
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What we call feminism started in the 1950s with the advent of the 2nd wave of feminism that focused on, yes, deconstructing and abolishing gender roles for women as this was the oppressive time of the house wife, where women were socially conditioned to make one option for their life: domestic slavery It was around this time that feminism got called "feminism". Suffrage was legal liberation. Feminism is social.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:30 AM
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except those are what women have said. I'm just regurgitating them. Feminism is FEMALE liberation. What you describe is egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:27 AM
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not every human being. Many women prefer to live with no strings attached. men should learn to appreciate this lifestyle too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:55 AM
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No. They just don't like it when these "trad wives" bring back pressures for other women to conform to weakness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:50 AM
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feminism is about women's legal, and social liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:49 AM
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they need to try. They usually just don't because they are too busy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:47 AM
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no. Male freindships only don't work because they lack the intimate element female & female frendships have. Fix that and you're good as gold when it comes to interaction satisfaction and won't need romance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:34 AM
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these aren't subconciuos. its socialized. When you encourage boys to see their fellow males as competitors : you get unfriendly men towards other men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 04:30 AM
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breast feeding isn't needed. Bottle works fine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:10 AM
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unless you want underdeveloped kids: fuck NO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:06 AM
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WHY would you ALLOW the an age gap like that????😟 Is that not creepy af???
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:23 AM
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Women find younger men more attractive in the modern generation. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jan/27/both-men-and-women-prefer-younger-partners-study-finds
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:20 AM
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A study actually proved that women desire younger men over older men. And rightly so. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jan/27/both-men-and-women-prefer-younger-partners-study-finds https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2416984122
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:53 AM
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Dude...just....what the hell is this??? ever heard of socialized dependency? The 50s may be over, but the legacy of normalized female dependency is still here. women still retain the socialization into adulthood and beyond. And this causes codependency Stop acting like a libertarian for once Lilith, golly. This is reddit not twitter. Stop with the rage bate
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:23 AM
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When I say signs, I dont mean passive aggressive codewords. I mean the girlfriend/wife complains about the same thing over and over again, she gets ignored, and then the guy panicks when she has enough and decides to find a better guy that listens. Despite what this subreddit thinks, some guys are just hopeless and deserve to be alone. if you truly have a problem that you feel is jeopardizing your relationship and you care about said relationship, you have a fucking discussion. You don't just co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 12:09 AM
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Except you never mentioned her saying that stuff. A man can fix himself in many ways. Loneliness is not always a person's own fault. If you think that, i'm going to assume you are gen-x/millennial
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 06:00 AM
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except he didn't know the problem existed She should have actually said something rather than giving "clues". If you are having a problem in a relationship, you talk about it and say something directly rather than hiding from confrontation of the problem. Did you read the rest of my reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 05:42 AM
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tf is nsa?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:43 PM
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So yes, it is that there’s men who struggle to be attentive and don't give a fuck about their partner, Not the full picture. I think its that women have this fantasy about relationships being a constant exchange. Its often not, but the idea of it that is pushed onto girls due to female socialization giving them a much higher standard for how a relationship should operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 10:38 PM
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Nope, it just added demands on the checklist women hold men up to. and why is that a problem? We should hold women up to the same standards us men have as well. Have you ever heard a women even insinuate something like "watching you do the dishes gets me so wet" ??? This doesn't have to do with attraction, it has to do with whats most healthy couples Its always the same "more benefits without obligations" for women. Equality in dating means they still will need to do the obligations us men uphol…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:28 PM
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Thats why we need reform in men. Change the men, so women are safe to be included in military service
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:25 PM
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Ofc. No equality leads to a power imbalance, and someone is always going to be dissatisfied in those cases no matter what
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 03:24 PM
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You don't need to center women. If women in society are feminine, then masculinity is naturally present in men' So it is reliant on women being feminine? In that case then its doomed, as women are naturally choosing practical and more none-performative traits people deem "masculine" Where do you see masculinity as a slave to femininity? The two compliment each other. Once again it should be about decentralization of relationships, not women. Masculinity according to you, relies on the existence …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/25 12:47 AM
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he reads a manual on how to be productive in life an not be reliant on women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:35 PM
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“Build it and they will come”. That still centers women. You aren't "building" to improve yourself or help yourself. You are "building" to get women because you think thats what will help you despite reliance on women for validation only hurting you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:34 PM
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If we need to center women for masculinity to exist, then its time to get rid of the concept of masculinity or at the very least redefine it. This isn't saying that we need to abandon those behaviors, but if men have to become slaves to their obsessions with women, then maybe we should just get rid of the classification, as it is causing men to harm themselves by centering women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:27 PM
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Men often have the desire to be in a relationship due to them centering women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:22 PM
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self worth can come from feeling of fulfillment. And that can often come from independent efforts non-dependent on other people's validation of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:20 PM
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Yes. so why not get approval from freinds and peers?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:18 PM
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You shouldn't have getting a woman as a top priority though. You've made your decisions fully dependent on whether it would increase your dating prospects, rather than whether its ACTUALLY something that betters you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:16 PM
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You don't "give up". You simply don't make women your source of validation and purpose. you can still date, but that should never be your #1 priority, nor should it be where you put most of your effort
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:13 PM
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. Literal you have the black manosphere where black women are begging black men to come and lead again Not representative AT ALL of how women are thinking. That type of content doesn't actually show the ethos of modern women. They show and choose to show those women for a reason. Women literally voted a WHITE MAN to get men out of women spaces. Majority of women in the U.S voted for kamala. Women need men. If men don't hold to traditional roles women would be in big trouble. Women are not as cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 09:06 PM
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you guys are dependent on women. thats why you try so hard to obtain them because you rely on them and center them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:57 PM
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Not chasing women doesn't equal loneliness. You can have friends and support groups. The whole reason women are better equipped is because they have more freinds on average and are more open to being reliant on each other for these things. Men on the other hand suffer in loneliness because we have made validation and self-worth soley dependent on women. You'll notice that when men complain about never getting complemented in a while, the last time they were is always from a woman. Because men do…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 04:01 PM
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Desire to be desired isn't part of the human condition. Desire to be recognized and appreciated is. And once you learn to recognize yourself and appreciate yourself, while surrounding yourself with friends who recognize you and appreciate you, you'll feel fulfilled
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:43 PM
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women would be forced to pick up the slack, and would have to adapt. Humans adapt in general. They'd be just fine. Us men need to do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:40 PM
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ofc not. because they don't actually decenter women. All they talk about is women, and they "go there own way" out of spite, not genuine want to improve themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:34 PM
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Your actions dictate if you are forgotten, and the goodwill you bring determines your treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:26 PM
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Can you be more specific or provide an example of this? Also, I would rather be successful in the dating market than a moral person who is unsuccessful. men often sacrifice good character and ethics to get an advantage in the dating market. The fact that you think that having a girl is more important that being a good person is why we need to decenter romantic relationships, as its ruining men's moral integrity and making more shitty men. Yeah I just don't see any real-world examples of this in …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:34 AM
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-You can assertively search for a relationship while still having respectable standards and boundaries and avoiding toxic relationships. Of course, but that is not what the idea is. the idea is to focus on self and male comradery -You can search for and be in a relationship without your self-worth being based on being in a relationship. Further, the anxiety around the idea of being “dependent” on someone is irrational, it should be expected that people are to some extent “dependent” on their spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 11:46 PM
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-You can and should “work on yourself” at any time regardless of your relationship status. Further, the implication that you can only work on yourself when single is not only incorrect, it is harmful, because people should still be improving themselves while in relationships. There is also good evidence that men in relationships take better care of themselves in general. Men often sacrifice doing things that would benefit their character and personhood morally and objectively to get ahead in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 11:46 PM
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Nobody says its going to be easy. But if women can do it, why can't men? This isn't saying you should obstain from sex with women. It just means you shouldn't rely on them for intimate vulnerability or life fulfillment , nor mere company, or validation. Being reliant on women for these things puts you at a disadvantage as you have blocked off the primary population you can actually relate to and connect to at a stronger level. Even sexual reliance on women can be bad. Being able to sexually disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 10:53 PM
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then most gen-zers, (ESPECIALLY LATE GEN-Z) are insane. Most of us, do not gaf about birthrates as we already know that they are still going up, and are still high globally. Why should anyone waist a quarter of their lives when they could be spending it becoming something remarkable and making an actual impact on the world at large and making sure they aren't forgotten after 4 generations? Why would anyone trap themselves to such a stressful and time consuming life style?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:28 PM
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If i have a poor character, i know damn well i'll die lonely when i die
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:21 PM
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that doesn't matter. What matters is human character. If you are a misogynist, you will always be lower than any ugly man
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:09 PM
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Being an inhuman duchbag never will be better than being ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:01 PM
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Women willing to look past red flags are shallow. You shouldn't be seeking women with such shallow standards
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 04:41 AM
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ok? i'd rather be ugly and unattractive than a scumbag. ya'll got no morality
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:30 AM
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ok? doesn't mean you can't be the bigger person and not be a garbage human being out of moral obligation
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 03:26 AM
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because they don't realize they are getting into horrible relationships as the horrible parts of the partner never show their colors until they have scored
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:24 AM
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we can literally look at the oldest tales to see misogyny and the cult of domesticity. And look at recent ethoses among men where they still act like women are inferior patriarchy IS a thing, how the hell are you contesting this when you still have rape, femcide and dehumanization of women still
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:13 AM
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decisions are based off of desires. restraint on acting on said desires requires discipline
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:09 AM
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We don't need sexual fulfillment from women. we can find sexual fullfillment from m*st*rb*t*on (though even then, tbh, it'd be smarter to not be addicted to the idea of sex too) Men should rely on other men for understanding and emotional needs such as need for vulnerability etc. Also why should someone listen to you telling them not to want women. How does it make sense for a man to not want a woman? And do what? You've made women the center of your life i see. You don't need a woman for fulfil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:07 AM
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no its not. If you actually had character you'd realize that bigotry is horrible, and attractiveness is less important than a person being insufferable to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:55 AM
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problem is: most men don't do the "deeper level"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:10 AM
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the original conception of the idea and the thing that sparked the topic, was a statistic stating men over 20 with no freinds have increased by 20% since 2000. Never about pussy. Redpills and incels just spun the idea it was pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:09 AM
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Attractiveness can make up for misogynistic viewpoints I've never heard such a shallow viewpoint
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:04 AM
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Its simply telling men to stop making women the center of their self-worth. Its also telling men to stop overvaluing relationships with women, since men tend to act like having a girl makes like heaven. It doesn't. Men should only be reliant on each other imo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:59 PM
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nobody in the modern generation cares about birth rates. Having babies is overrated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:56 PM
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who gaf though?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:55 PM
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it can. its called discipline
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:52 PM
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dude, men have been trashing and degrading women since patriarchy was invented. Its only been for about 4 years that what you call "man hating" has been mainstream
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:44 PM
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bro are you dumb????
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:36 PM
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Women can and always have expressed their desires and men haven’t batted an eye lid. 6 figures, 6 feet, 6 pack etc. have always been women’s mantra. dude, people call women who have sexual desires "wh*res" and "Sl*ts. Meanwhile gooner culture literally is at its strongest, while porn culture/player culture persists. At every turn men’s standards are villainised by women. Age standards - villainised. Body type standard - villainised. Promiscuity standard - villainised. Men are saying women expire…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:12 AM
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saying that false assault allegations are as dangerous as rape is a wild take
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:16 AM
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there is a reason why you have a career and a goal to make an impact on society. why are you so sure a romantic relationship will be fulfilling? Why not just have friends? Why not occupy your life to becoming indelible in the history books? Women seem able to sustain themselves just fine without a partner. So why can't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 12:17 AM
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Yeah i know. But why not just focus on platonic relationship with freinds. You are over relaint on women to complete you. You can literally try and be someone who changes the world for god sakes yet you're worried about having someone to smooch :/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 12:13 AM
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stop being reliant on dating to fulfil your life. This is how you become an incel
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:00 AM
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? Dude, i never said evil was ok. I simply stated that misogyny is a bigger issue. Misandry from women comes from 2 camps: a. they hate men because of the observed behavior men present to them (majority of the time) b. They hate men because they need something to hate (minority of the time ) Misandrist women are very rare as society pretty much does its best to socialize women to have an unconditional liking to men, or at least higher tolerance for their fell behavior, than men's tolerance for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:32 AM
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Yes. But that doesn't mean by the time we end, we won't have made some indelible mark on the universe. Contributing to how we get to that point is at least a good goal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:52 PM
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??? Misandry isn't just hate. Its disdain, and doesn't have to be complete hatred of the group. This is like saying women cannot be misogynists. Men are misandrists as they expect the most low down behavior from their fellow male peers acting as if men aren't capable of being better. And often degrade each other to no end. Like I said, the proof can be even found by how we approach intercourse, as we act like women are dirtied by men having sex with them, which would indicate the dirtying factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:48 PM
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Yes. Everyone may be forgotten...but your impacts on society are what count. We don't remember the person who invented the wheel...but their impact (whether we take it for granted or not) had reverberations in history to this day. We would feel the impact if they never existed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:40 PM
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They don't. They legitimately don't. they may try to attract but they don't chase
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 03:34 PM
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they AREN'T looking though. If they were...they'd be chasing. Women ARE NOT CHASING. They take what comes into their lap, evaluate if its worth the risk, then choose or don't. They don;t go after these prince charmings. They know that prince charmings don't exist, and are often unattractive in personality A man of quality is determined by one thing: Character. As their character determines most of these factors, like respectfulness, self care, responsibility etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:43 AM
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??? This post in and of itself is just misandrist. do you not think i can have a legitimate opinion about my community, that may critique it, without it being a simping session? Is that all you see in men with opinions critiquing their community as a whole? Men ARE the biggest misandrists. Men set the lowest standards for their peers, often insinuating they can't do better. Men bully the shit out of each other more than any woman can. Men often automatically assume other men as competition rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 05:54 AM
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and if you don't think that social media isn't influencing culture and society especially for women, idk what to tell you bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:40 AM
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yeah...they try to be realistic. They aren't living in coo-coo land. The "higher quality men" (which is kinda insulting for you to refer to men by quality based off of what? wealth? Strength? body count? How shallow are you? And why are you trying to attract women if they are that shallow? Have standards on the character of women for christ sake dude) are like....2.4% of the human population. They are trying to attract the men at the normal level. Or just men in general. A lot of time its even t…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:30 AM
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because it means that their existance did something to society. It means that if they were to have never existed, we'd be living in an entirely different world. It means their life meant something to the progression of the future of humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:16 AM
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Its not just tik tok. Its most social media platforms outside of Instagram. That being the case, I think we need to get rid of that narrative, as it bases itself off of outdated life priorities that have long since been abandoned by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:08 AM
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You must be in a pretty shitty community if it made you back pro women arguments in literally every facet of life imaginable. If I was an alien learning about male homo sapiens from you, I would conclude they're the devil incarnate. Its not my community or else i wouldn't be seeing the same reoccurring behavior across men online from other places, and from the places i've visited on family vacations. I'm not making pro women arguments in every facet of life at all. No? Not out here thinking you'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:13 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:51 PM
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doesn't really change much unless the woman joins the man in the provider role, or the man takes the homemaker role
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:48 PM
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you forget most men of this generation (post 2000) don't really gaf about children too much as they know, raising a child is hell on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:39 PM
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most women aren't trying to attract the top men though. Most women recognize, most men that approach arent going to be the top of the top. So this is inconsequential
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:34 PM
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Most women aren't chasing chads. Its pretty clear when you look at the average young couple these days women really dgaf about that. They date nerds, jocks, workers, cooks, chubby dudes...it doesn't matter. They care more about what these people do in behavior than anything else. That being the case, most women aren't chasing chads. Or chasing period. They are being chased. And whoever ends up in their lap who they like, they are going to date. So yes, the average "joe schmo" is relevant here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:32 PM
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society is literally telling women "expire at 25"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:28 PM
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Misogyny kills more women and men. Misogyny is the reason we men have such a strict standard of masculinity and is why women have to stay inside at night lest they get r*ped. Misogyny is the reason men bully one another for not acting man enough, and is the reason women are getting disillusioned from men. Misogyny is the main reason why men are half developed compared to women. Misandry is men being jackassed and hating each other more, and women hating men in reaction to misogyny. The bad behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:24 PM
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Misandrist simp whiteknight....because i'm commenting on my OWN observations from the men in my community??? You keep acting like i'm some simp trying to get a girl. I could give fuck all about getting a girl. I care about having a community i can be proud of, and a community that is riddled by problems that we created, and that we can fix. I care very deeply about the male community, which is why I bring these things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:19 PM
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Sure, but the contributions and their impact still will live on. We don't know who invented the wheel. But we do know the impact of their contribution and are still effected by that contribution
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:15 PM
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WHO. SAID. THESE. MEN. WERE. EVIL?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:14 PM
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4b is a reaction to the whole shabange women go through with men on the daily MGTOW is a reaction to circumstantial expectations (so if they WERE in a relationship, what happens is basically why they "go their own way"). So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:10 PM
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Yeah...thats the problem. Men value these more than responsibility and self-sufficiency in women, and then call women they choose parasites because they are dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:05 PM
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dude, i've seen nerds, jocks, fatsoes, mids, and every other type of man with women. It doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:49 PM
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yeah, but your impacts can be easily erased. Sooner or later those people will die. And it will have been as if you never existed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:42 PM
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no. So that my existence isn't forgotten, or at least my impact on the world is not erased so that i might as well have never existed. being forgotten, and having your contributions mean nothing is the truest form of death imo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:40 PM
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"I cannot physically go to Africa" is a cop out. You can volunteer. You can get a job and donate. You can help the least fortunate people on your local area. Boy i WISH, but nah, i can't. Don't have the money. And i do help out people in my area as i do volunteer with my parents with some of the soup kitchens. On top of that, you know what also "enhances" men reputation? not trying to say most are evil. And I mean it. You are tiny and inconsequential, but if your message spread, that men are mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:36 PM
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I'm not saying that. But contributing to societies PROGRESS. AKA being an innovator. being a leader of change and advancement in some way
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:17 PM
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Damn...forgot abt that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:16 PM
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nah. If you're existance is forgotten, and your contributions are rendered unimpactful...your legacy is basically nothing. You might have well have never existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:15 PM
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Men's priorities should be in contributing to the scientific/technological/political/social/economic progress of society, and forming strong fraternal bonds with their male peers, not trying to chase women. Ultimately you're goal should always be to make an unerasable legacy so that your existence is not forgotten, or at the very least has an impact on society that would keep your existence from being unimpactful to the future and therefore having your life might as well have not existed And you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:34 AM
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Let's add one more: Why are you, OP, not holding yourself to a higher standard of decency? Why are you talking about calling out people that say not nice things" and you're not saving lives in Africa? Because i cannot physically go to africa. I can however call out stuff, which i will and have gladly done. Why are you picking the "decency" and "morals" that "make you look good, as opposed to the immature jerks" and not the decency that helps those in need? -Creating a higher standard of morals a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:42 AM
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So the reason men are nicer to women is because they want to attract them. So if men weren't attracted to women, would they treat them like shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:31 AM
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we as men cannot control women's behavior, but we can control our own, and should. The reason why men are so fractured compared to women, is because of the misandry we men commit. Fixing that should be priority number one in the matter of misandry (though misogyny at the moment does need to be at the front of the line of all issues in terms of male improvement) You can't end the storm while you're still stirring the clouds
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:02 AM
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No. literally surveys show the first thing they want is kindness. It makes perfect sense too. If you aren't kind to her, why would she choose you? She doesn't know you, she just see's you as an asshole and thus won't choose you. If you aren't kind on approach, she won't ever give you a chance. The height thing is a HUGE myth, and so is income. Its primarily kindness, maturity, then personal preferences in terms of physical attractiveness, which is why you see a lot more mid to ugly men, with bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:57 PM
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Its not hormones. Masculinity across cultures is very different. We consider masculine idols in South Korea feminine because masculinity in the west is different from that in the east. Its completely and utterly a scam. Or at least a form of categorization. Not a concrete thing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:52 PM
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Masculinity as a concept needs to exist so that these performances can be categorized as "masculine"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:48 PM
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I'm trying to say that more men are misandrists then women I'm trying to establish this so then men can start realizing this, and there can be some unity amongst men. male solidarity is rare, and only happens in relation to this "gender war". The male community can only improve if we have some unified understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:44 PM
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if you are a shitty person, you don't deserve to attract people period. best way to snip them from the market
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:36 PM
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most guys don't have "genetics" on their minds when doing this. So again: why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:20 PM
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because by doing so you let these people know they are unwelcome and untolerated and ALONE in their opinion. You isolate them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:16 PM
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women aren't doing that though. Women aren't hooking up with duchbags. Thats a highly common misconception. Even if that were the case, why does that determine your behavior? Can you not be a decent person independently?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:11 PM
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and why do men have to see each other as competition?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:09 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:09 PM
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So just for confirmation, its because men are shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:09 PM
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??? Dude as a guy myself, most of the misandry comes from men. Deadass. Men treat each other HORRIBLY
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:07 PM
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Men ARE judged by the content of their character though. Surveys show the thing women look for from men is kindness, something thats been waning in the past years with the rise of sex positivity movements going full on physical attraction adjacent leading to misconceptions of what women really want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 06:06 PM
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So men are basically selfish, uncaring fucks?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:35 AM
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your responsibility is to call these people out, and condemn their actions, to show at least YOU don't support it. If men as a collective did this, indecent men would be looked upon how the male community (unfairly) looks at gay men. With outright disgust and hatred
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:34 AM
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if that were the case women on average wouldn't be the ones making the most sacrifices in relationships to make the relationship work
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:32 AM
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nah. Men hate women way more than most women realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:30 AM
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yes most men ARE pushing other men and women down for their own personal gain. its almost ALWAYS been like this It IS our jobs. They don't listen to women. They listen to men. We have to get rid of them. If thats true then most men are misogynistic hands down, since how one acts online is often unfiltered, just showing how horrendous men are
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:29 AM
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Have you been online for the past 8 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:07 AM
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Men bully men the most. Why? What other than the fact that he is a man makes men bully other men more than women? Most men are misandrists. They act like men having sex with women make the woman impure as if the man himself is dirty. They treat men with automatic hostility and competition. compared to women who they show automatic disarmament They hate gay men more than lesbians showing its not the homosexual part they hate, its the homosexual MALE part. They bully men the most. They paint men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 02:02 AM
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we socialize men to see rape as such an unfathomable thing to do as cannibalism
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:57 AM
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they ARE avoidable. This just treats rape like its natural. Its NOT
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:54 AM
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misandry does exist imo. Some people either have disdain or hatred of men as a group. Men the most, but some women can be "misandrists". >Men being harmed is an effect but it’s not the cause This would be true in the first generation of patriarchy, but ultimately it is the harm the patriarchy does to men, that causes these men to continue it. Patriarchy is at its root, a clear reflection of male socialization. The masculinity hierarchy boys develop transfers to the patriarchal structure where th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:53 AM
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why do women have a limit on the amount of sex they can have yet men are tole the sky's the limit and they should go for gusto
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:26 AM
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When men are evil towards women, men in the discourse often ask "what was she wearing" pinning the blame on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:25 AM
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It is your responsibility to call it out. You have an obligation to let the world know these people do NOT represent us men. Especially since they seem so vocal and so willing to usurp the voice of the community acting as if they represent the community.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:24 AM
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Except most men certainly treat it as such. Most men treat it as if rape (and really any crime) is an unfortunate fact of humanity that one has to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:18 AM
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i said pure moral principals, not the task of keeping humanity alive or letting it run its biological course (which is morally ambiguous in and of itself) I mean, helping others, sacrifices in relationships, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:08 AM
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They more than hold themselves accountable. In fact women seem more in line to go against each other for the sake of men's feelings No, they just flat out say they are lying. Thats the problem. They don't "wait" they deny it ever happened and even when evidence is presented, they say its fabricated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 01:01 AM
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> And men HAVE become more decent... with every generation. Thats a flat out LIE. Men of this current generation are VIOLENTLY callous. to the point to which they are actually making memes and jokes about rape, and have created an online community simply called "groypers" who are the most disgusting vile people on the planet. And there barely WAS extreme feminism. Sure extreme responses, but those responses were reactions to men being HIGHLEY hateful towards anything that had to do with feminism…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:59 AM
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Women have always had humility and often to the point of self-degradation. Thats not the issue. You can look at any online discourse around a recent sexual assault/rape case and you'll see at least a few people saying the victim is lying, or that she should have done something rather than condemning the rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:55 AM
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Most men are not good men. I'm sorry, maybe in the west but even still, most men abuse the power we have. It kind of is our job to keep the randoms in check as they don't seem to listen to any other demographic other than men. Its our responsibility to call these men out when we see them online or irl. That's our job since they are in our demographic and are doing the most damage to our collective reputation, thus being OUR problem. Like dude, A SEX TRAFFIKER became one of the biggest voices of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:45 AM
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men as a gender have created a community that allows this to fester. We all have a part to play in contributing to a climate that tolerates this rape-culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:37 AM
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You're not real if you think thats worse than the guantlet of degradation boys and girls go through at the hands of other men and boys just so they conform.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:35 AM
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Sure, but its never been as bad as mens propensity to FUCK other animals. Again, men are in COMPARISON less pure than women. This isn't inherent though. This is very much social. If men were raised to be as prudish and reserved as women i think this problem would be fixed
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:33 AM
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Are you kidding me? Dude, the biggest bullies have by far on average have been other boys and men. Men bully the hell out of each other. Men are the primary ones that degrade one another
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 12:31 AM
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Women can be the most extreme misandrists, but men outnumber female misandrists in spades Most men are misandrists. They act like men having sex with women make the woman impure as if the man himself is dirty. They treat men with automatic hostility and competition. compared to women who they show automatic disarmament They hate gay men more than lesbians showing its not the homosexual part they hate, its the homosexual MALE part. They bully men the most. They paint men as naturally dangerous to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:51 PM
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Just look at any middle east country in which they claim that women shouldn't show hair because it "tempts men" as if men are naturally rapists. Just look at the responses men make when they hear about a woman being raped "what was she wearing?" "why did she go out at night?" "she tempted her" "why didn't she stay at home?"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:43 PM
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Most men think rape is inevitable. That's the big problem. They often go "women be careful out there and don't wear sexy clothing" rather than "men/boys, respect consent. no means no" in response to news of a woman being sexually assaulted or raped. They often act like rape is a crime that can never really be solved and that women should change, not men. Men show a higher degree of hostility towards each other than they do with women. And i can easily look at the point of how men act like women …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:39 PM
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I'm not concerned on feminists right now. I'm concerned on men. Men have been deemed as good people without having to provide for women. When i say collective reputation i'm talking also about those within our own ranks as men are now seeing this reputation as a loophole to do bad things. In our society a good reputation has a universal qualification amongst both sexes. One must be kind, intelligent, disciplined, independent, and honorable to have a good reputation. But so far, men have only rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:30 PM
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But why don't they put the better better good, over personal gain? Why can't men be better people like that? Women seem to be perfectly able to do the right thing (not saying they are perfect. the aren't. But compared to men, they seem more incentivized off of pure moral principals, rather than reward) so why can't men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:14 PM
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ok so again, why does it require a reward to do the right thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:06 PM
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yk...thats not an unfair notion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:55 PM
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I don't hate men. If i hated men, I'd be reveling in how dismal men are failing at dating and wouldn't post this, or any of my posts i made in the past 24 hours. I want things to get better for men as i myself being a guy am kinda tired of the struggles men have to go through, and the problems we men create for ourselves and our peers. Its gotten annoying and i want it to change so i can look at my community with more pride. But at the moment, i see a lot more shameful things, and people holding…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:54 PM
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Misandry and acts of misandry can be simple acts of contempt against someone because they are men. If in most of these situations the would be victim was female, at least half of them wouldn't have the same result. sure, but men are often more aggressive towards each other and more hostile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:35 PM
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It doesn't matter what women care about. This is just you letting women control how you base your decisions rather than independently making objectively moral choices. That just shows a lack of moral integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:32 PM
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rape is a product of male socialization. The socialization men go through as boys heightens impulsivity and risk taking behavior leading to them to only care about their sexual relief at the moment and see it as more valuable than the victim's consent; disregarding the consequences on the woman's wellbeing and the repercussions on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:29 PM
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how? These are just many of the observations *I* have noticed among my undisciplined male peers who make up a majority of my male peers period
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:23 PM
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Men should operate off of their own morals, but there are universal morals that benefit all people, such as being kind, showing respect, having empathy for others, upholding their peers to these standards, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:20 PM
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why don't we try and dispell self interest? Why not consideration for others?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:15 PM
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But why do YOU require reward? Do you not think being a decent person is a good thing. And if so...why aren't you making an effort into that? And why do these consequences in this context make the act a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:14 PM
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no? I'm genuinely being serious. Most of my female peers are pretty much disillusioned with this idea because of the baggage of toxicity, narcissism, and overconfidence that it comes with in the trope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:05 PM
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You may not be responsible for them and their actions but you are responsible for condemning them and othering them from men to indicate they do not speak for us
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:01 PM
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Being a bigger man means you uphold your morals and never stoop to meet the lower morals of other people. It means moral integrity. no. Genuine moral men. Of decency and maturity. Not just for the sake of image, but for the sake of being a good person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:22 PM
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Calling other men out who are indecent, crude, immature or assholes. Condemning the actions of men who do horrendous things showing unconditional courtesy to others Having the moral integrity to do these things even when you are "mocked and fucked over"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:19 PM
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because objectively speaking we do. We barely moderate much less regulate our community Are increasingly becoming antagonistic Are unempathetic towards most other people lack self responsibility lack maturity enable poor qualities such as egoism and narcissism to be heralded as positive traits allow the worst of the community to take a bulk of our output rarely condemn horrendous behavior amongst ourselves degrade our public image without even trying proudly uphold impulsivity deflect responsibi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:14 PM
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I'm not trying to appeal to women. I'm want the male community to improve, and this is just one of many things the male community needs to work on
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:58 PM
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You should require a reward or benefit to do the right thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:55 PM
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why do you require reward to do what is objectively right? It shouldn't take the promise of sexual and romantic gratification for you to be a decent person
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:54 PM
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"Wussification"...by calling out assholes in the male community who claim to speak for us? For being of strong moral integrity and standing to do the right thing even without reward? We've been doing the exact opposite that we proposed. And its not only causing women to be disillusioned with us, but its causing men to taint the image and reputation of men. Do you truly think being a wuss means doing and being the right thing? You don't get taken advantage inherently. Being masculine and being of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:52 PM
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its more than 5%. The base standard for men right now is one of immaturity and outright perversity and antagonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:45 PM
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i said in comparison. And women usually are as cruel, nor callous as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:44 PM
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automatic kindness is being kind by default, and being unconditional in kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:39 PM
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I'm not trying to appeal to nurotic women. I have no alterior motives outside of wanting the reputation men have amassed for a eons to change to something better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:24 PM
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true, but i'm concerning men right now, as it is men who are doing these things. If men have to be the bigger people, so be it, but being decent, and having stronger objective morals should be a requirement among all men of all ages. The only reason women are seen as pure, is because they are pure in comparison to their male counterparts, and men are (wrongly, but still truely) seen as the base standard of humanity under the societal hierarchy we live under, thus in comparison with the base stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:20 PM
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Men should be driven by morals. Not women and gratification. this just shows weak integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:07 PM
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not every opinion that holds objective virtue is a guy trying to get a woman dude. I'm not driven by desire to get a woman. I'm driven by a desire for the male community to get better
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:06 PM
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Men often times being narcissistic, the groyper community. Men being often inconsiderate. etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:05 PM
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why do you think a man talking about this automatically makes them a pick me? Do you not think this opinion can't manifest itself without motivation via gratification? I have no other motivation other than wishing to be able to be proud of my own community as a collective. But I really can't when half of ya'll hate being the better man in any situation and will exploit the idea of human malevolence. Men need to be more decent and morally higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:04 PM
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The image it projects onto men in general is what fuels the negative reputation men have amassed
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:56 PM
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it projects a poor image of men as a collective. And no. At least not in the younger generation which i am a part of, men do NOT hold themselves to a basic moral standard, often just indulging in impulsively jerk behavior, while not being called out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:50 PM
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A lot of men hold themselves at low moral standards, often lacking decency (such as humility, automatic kindness, respect, maturity etc) Think of the people like groypers on twitter, or men who are highly crude and don't gaf about how self-centered and uncaring they can come across. Often being unempathetic and projecting a poor image upon men. The "bigger man" seems to be waning and i see a rise in the "i just don't care what other people think" which is hurting us
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:47 PM
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Men often act like rape is an unfortunate truth often times thinking that male rapists are an unavoidable constant and that women should change accordingly, rather than treating rape as an unnatural behavior and not part of men's nature. And yes, i am indeed a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:07 PM
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because redpillers are way more vocal and its not even redpillers who do these things. Most men in general act like rape is just an unfixable truth in this world, and that it would be futile to fix the problem of men raping, and rather we have to make women change accordingly, instead of focusing efforts on getting men to not rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 04:00 PM
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i don't hate men. I made this post because i hate the state that the male community has been in and want it to get better. Men make other men miserable, and i'm tired of people saying otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:55 PM
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why don't we try and change the cause of them having to be wary of rapists? Why can't we attack the root of the problem instead of letting the problem fester and having women move accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:53 PM
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not exactly. The way men treat each other shouldn't be the base standard of how we treat one another
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:51 PM
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men never take responsibility. They always make excuses for why it happens. And majority of men are not protective. Thats just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 07:30 AM
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radical feminists are literally a minority of women, and even then, most of their rhetoric is in response to men being assholes and as i've said, acting like men are inherently malevolent and violent in nature as a way to deflect blame on men who do horrible things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:05 AM
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Men being discriminatorily evil towards women is misogyny. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:02 AM
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Misandry doesn't have to be actual hatred. Just like how misogynists often act misogynistic without knowing it and still like women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 06:00 AM
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Men often act like rap is an unfortunate truth often times thinking that male rapists are an unavoidable constant and that women should change accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 05:59 AM
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but do you think that feminism should target their message to men, since they are the group feminism is seeking reform in (as it is mostly men who are the cause of women's oppression)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:03 AM
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because its creepy and gross
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:27 AM
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