Bluer_than_Red Archive

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1	Do you think this is a healthy, positive outlook for a kid? Why does he believe in these things? Elliot Rodger in the making.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/16 08:53 PM
2	Q4W: would you have sex with a hot guy that you disliked? Yeeep. It may come as a shock but we don't have to like the guy to find him hot. Hot is hot and it's a million time better than screwing a guy we're not attracted to (although yes; ideally we like the guy himself plus he is hot which also does happen).	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/16 08:36 PM
0	So, a bunch of skinny geeks get photoshopped in Buzzfeed's video for "Body Positive" week. Do you agree with the video's message? Actually, the vast majority of men do have the genetic potential to be attractive to women. k	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/16 07:48 PM
3	So, a bunch of skinny geeks get photoshopped in Buzzfeed's video for "Body Positive" week. Do you agree with the video's message? I mean, as long as these men don't feel entitled to being found attractive by women and as long as we don't try to shame women for not finding them attractive, I see no problems. Unrealistic body expectations also affect men. For one, the vast majority of men don't have the genetic to be sexually attractive to women. So telling them that if they just pump enough iron they'll be eventually attractive to women is not only a complete lie, it doesn't work like that AND it create a sense of entitleme…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/16 07:32 PM
2	Q4RP: Are MGTOW men usually men who women don't want anyway? Yep, it's basically a bunch of genetically undesirable males who decided they're going to "punish" women by depriving them of their company. Best punishment ever imo. In that sense I'm very much pro-MGTOW because it's reproductively beneficial for women. That being said, every video I've seen on youtube of MGTOWs are of unattractive (or plain, at best) men. You can just say 'unattractive'. Unattractive or plain sounds redundant :p	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/16 06:58 AM
6	Do women dress revealingly in order to attract sexual attention from males? We do but not in the way men imagine. We do it for the gorgeous guy we saw once (or maybe we haven't seen him yet). It's not about you, Champ. Move along.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/16 10:57 AM
-2	Would written, notarized contracts for consent solve all these grey areas around rape? That's not what I or anyone who's not a straw-feminist boogey(wo)man ever said. We're saying once there is trial that we actually listen and not expect them to be perfect victims (i.e: "But she dated him/had sex with him before, he couldn't have raped her" etc).	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/16 11:55 AM
0	Would written, notarized contracts for consent solve all these grey areas around rape? Yeah, great idea, that'll solve most problems /s How about we simply put rapists in prison and when victims come foward we don't simply go all Jian Gomeshi trial on them? That'll be a good start (and a more realistic way to deal with the issue than the feminist parody you're putting out there).	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/16 10:02 PM
0	The awkward moment when TRPillers and Anita Sarkeesian are saying the same thing. Male entitlement really is endemic in our society and I definitely agree Hollywood at least play some part in that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/16 11:33 AM
2	Vulnerability is the most attractive feature of a person If a man is genuinely alpha: strong, masculine, tall, assertive etc shows -in some specific circumstances (not all the frigging time), vulnerability can be attractive, it shows he's human (we're not attracted to emotionless terminators either). But coming from the average creepy,slimy mutazoids that comprised a majority of the male demographic; no...just no. It just makes their slimy creepyness that much more slimy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/16 10:57 AM
1	To BP: How do you explain the rich male preference to marry >20 years younger females during second marriages? Correlation does not equal causation. The link you posted made no mention if they tried to isolate all variables to find what actually cause the increase in orgasms. So as it is, it's just a correlation. We know however there's a good correlation between height and how much money a guy makes. Could be actually caused by her partner's increase in physical masculinity (you know, the things that actually makes women orgasms when they're with a man). But wealthy alone? I doubt any women in the histo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 09:07 AM
1	how common is for women to be attracted to weak/shy men? Maybe the problem is the way you appear to others and the way you present yourself; it's possible you're less attractive than you think if you actually get laughed at (something that's pretty rare to see).	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 08:19 AM
1	how common is for women to be attracted to weak/shy men? Weak is pretty unattractive by definition. However, shy and weak is not the same thing. Though all things being equal I tend to prefer more assertive and confident men, sometimes shyness can be endearing and attractive if the guy is really good looking.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 08:11 AM
2	Any men here who are attracted to masculine women? Any women here who are attracted to feminine men? Yes or no, and why? Some men can pull off the less masculine look and still be relatively hot (Brad Pitt when he was young) though I tend to go for the classical rugged, highly physically masculinized look. But if we're talking Michael Cera level of non masculinity: Heck no. No frigging way lol At that point I'd rather go for a woman (and I'm pretty much hetero exclusively).	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 08:02 AM
2	how would you describe an average looking guy (5-6/10)? Funny thing is I used Michael Cera as an example of the prototypical plain or average man before here. But yeah he's a good example of the average man. The average man is decidedly unattractive. As in, no matter how pleasing or nice in terms of personality he could never provoke desire or lust. Average is simply not synonymous with desirable. Men should just accept this and move on, honestly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/16 07:53 AM
1	Discussing SMV as I understand it. The idea of a woman and her children being entirely dependent on a single male is modern, influence by agriculture and Abrahamic religion. This. Monogamy is fairly modern in relation to human's history and was basically invented as a way to control's women body and reproduction. It benefited men who were not desirable enough to mate (i.e: most men) and who only had access to rape as a way to reproduce. Before the advent of Abrahamic religions the whole clan/group contributed to the rearing of th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/16 11:57 AM
4	CMV: You cannot just arbitrarily set your own SMV. If a male 5 can't get a female 2, he is not a 5. 100% right OP. You're only as attractive as how others (or in the case of straight men: women) judge you. If most women judge you to be undesirable then, hey, guess what? You're undesirable! It's also one of the reason why there are so much more unattractive or undesirable men out there than there are women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/16 11:35 AM
2	Is nature really so cruel? Yep. As much of a nice guy (not even "tm" but genuine nice guy) he is or as much as he is a good provider, that's not gonna do much good if the guy has crappy or meh genetics. Conversely, the good looking convict still transmit his superior genes -his being a convict is something more social, i.e: not genetic. As far as reproduction goes from a women's pov it's strictly about raw genetic qualities since, by definition, that's the only thing that's passed on. Hell, that's the whole point of donor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/16 08:11 AM
1	Is nature really so cruel? If we assign "nature" with a kind-of identity, is she being so unfair? That's the point though: nature doesn't have an identity. Evolutionary speaking, as a male, if you're not sexually attractive to women or if you don't pass your genes then you're a failure. We mostly have gotten rid of natural selection so sexual selection is the name of the game. If someone objects to this it says a lot more about them than anything else; they are others ways to succeed as an individual (Tesla, Newton etc al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/16 07:43 AM
1	Women of PPD, how do you feel about sharing restrooms with transgender women? I've no issues with it. They're women; why should they be forced to use the men's bathroom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/16 07:29 AM
2	CMV: Female celibacy is entirely different than being a male incel, and should never be compared to male incels. Certainly, most women can easily find a sex partner. However since there's a much smaller number of sexually attractive men than there are women, the situation is not that different: Women have just as much trouble finding a sexually desirable, highly fuckable genetically superior alpha as men have trouble finding any female sexual partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/04/16 06:49 AM
3	Blue Pill, do you agree with the idea that muscular men have more partners over time than average men? Naturally tall and well built men? Sure. Men who are not naturally highly fuckable (i.e average and below men) and who just put on some muscle through training? No. For one the guy's genetic is still sub optimal (i.e: his offspring won't be any less ugly) and it doesn't make him hotter ultimately. There's a huge difference between "good built" and body builder level of yuckness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/16 08:09 AM
1	Doesn't the existence of modern society override some of the arguments about evolution and human nature? No, not really. Modern weapons have rendered high physical strength all but useless, yet women are still attracted to tall men with broad shoulders, good musculature, chiseled jawline and who are athletic because those traits indicate high level of physical dominance over other men (and also act as a deterrent to physical escalation as genetically inferior men would be less willing getting their ass beaten by a superior individual). Again, in modern times that stuff can't compete with firearms b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/16 07:58 AM
3	Discussing SMV as I understand it. As was described in the podcast, as men generally pursue women, women have the choice in mate. They can pick between highly genetically desirable (high SMV) males or lower genetically desirable males + resources. Yep. The common repeated wisdom that women put less importance in looks only apply to long term relationships, not short term. For sex the only thing that determines if I get off is the guy's fuckability. Give me a tall, chiseled guy with gorgeous blue eyes/dark hair and superior geneti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/16 07:46 AM
6	Why is the market for straight, fat/curvy men essentially non-existent compared to the market for curvy/thick women? First off there's a difference between "teddy bear" fat (which some women are attracted to) because these men still retain some degrees of masculinity, and men who have moobs, have hips etc pretty much universally repulsive to women as they phenotype resemble that of a woman (some even begin to lactate...) So what you're asking basically why do men are attracted to the female form (although with a significant excess of weight in today's world) versus a male that looks like a female. Also, men wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 11:22 PM
1	If women are hypergamous and men are loyal, why are infidelity rates at best equal between the sexes? Yeah, women being the victims of stoning because of infidelity or getting kill by jealous males is indeed terrible. Then again, when men like George Sodini or Elliot Rodgers go on rampages because "muh pee-pee's fees fees" I would have to say males are definitely the most dramatic and emotional sex. Men are more dangerous, violent than women. There's no question there and every women knows that. We have to be more careful, no way around it. I think both sex have their own disadvantages: men have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 04:56 AM
1	CMV: It's very difficult for short men to be in a mutually loving relationship where both parties love each other for themselves. The past is more than a foreign country – it’s a fantasy realm that doesn’t exist and have no bearing on the current state of affairs. The past literally explains why "the current state of affairs" are the way they are. I think anyone believing otherwise is bordering on insanity or delusion. To go back to the OP why do you think short or unattractive men are so bitter usually while good looking men are rarely so...could it be because of their...PAST experience maybe??? People who have had (past)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 04:33 AM
4	CMV: It's very difficult for short men to be in a mutually loving relationship where both parties love each other for themselves. Again...why? It's an insane way of thinking. Just because most men have no sexual value doesn't mean they don't have any value in other domains. Seriously, "kill off all but sexually attractive males"? Yeah, billions of people killed sound like a great idea /s Seriously, wtf.. Again, this is an example of toxic masculinity: men only see women as sexual objects so they project this to themselves so when they learn/realize that they have no sexual value to women they go "welp, better kill off 99% …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 03:52 AM
3	CMV: It's very difficult for short men to be in a mutually loving relationship where both parties love each other for themselves. And how do you propose an older woman just stay young/fertile? I think it's a silly analogy, really. But I know men often try to use it as a poor attempt at making themselves feel better when learning that they're not sexually attractive: "Oh yeah well, uhhh you'll get old!". sure, and so will you. Difference is all women have been young at one point. Few men however have actually provoked actual, sexual attraction at any point in their lives (not to mention many men keep believing they actually…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 03:41 AM
2	CMV: It's very difficult for short men to be in a mutually loving relationship where both parties love each other for themselves. Why..? Is being short so difficult that you have to make yourself believe in something that's blatantly false? Men and society in general would benefit greatly from dropping the toxic male entitlement that men have vis-a-vis sex/access to women. Not only would it benefit us, but it would also benefit men greatly. I can't imagine what it's like to be sexually frustrated 24/7 and angry because "damn those women for applying their sexual agencies, having preferences and actually wanting orgasms".	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 03:14 AM
2	CMV: It's very difficult for short men to be in a mutually loving relationship where both parties love each other for themselves. And ugly women are not relationship attractive to men Well sure, by definition someone who's considered ugly is not attractive, that goes for women too. It's just that there are considerably more ugly (sexually unattractive) men than there are sexually unattractive women. A woman basically just has to be not horribly deformed, still young/fertile and possibly not morbidly obese in order to be able to attract. Men however are far less often attractive to women. I'd say there are 1-2~% of males th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 03:02 AM
2	If women are hypergamous and men are loyal, why are infidelity rates at best equal between the sexes? Women cheat because of the imposition of monogamy. Simple as that. If she wants to have any chances at getting her rocks off or orgasming at all during sex she needs that phenotypically hot (tall chiseled features, high dimorphism, high degree of facial masculinization etc) guy. So to answer your question men probably cheat more on average...because men don't risk getting killed by the opposite sex when get caught unlike us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 02:29 AM
1	CMV: TRP is bad for the gene pool and evolution You're advocating taking people with traits you find undesirable out of the gene pool. Hitler would be proud of you You're actually comparing female sexual selection to the holocaust?...Dude. Females have always selected reproductively or genetically fitter males. This was probably true when there were dinosaurs around. The fact that you're comparing it to the worse systemic genocidal regime ever says more about your insecurities or deficiencies as a male/mate than anything really...	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/16 01:24 AM
2	Why do women (especially feminists) demand men lower their standards but refuse to lower theirs. Yep. That's the way it worked before the advent of patriarchy. Monogamy is a social construct to control's women reproduction so that low desirability males have a shot at reproduction. Females being choosy = healthier, better looking offspring. (Attractive) males being selected/not being very choosy = maximizing reproductive success. tl;dr Both sexes have very different strategies when it comes to quality/quantity because of differences in reproductive investment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/16 01:32 PM
1	How much does height actually matter to women? I know, right? Fucking women, how dare they go after the men that attract them (or for TRP crowd) give their offspring the best chances? Fucking bunch of sluts...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/16 05:48 AM
1	The Impossibility of Incels Their teeth doesn't magically grow straight nor do their nose suddenly gets smaller, though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/16 02:07 AM
2	The Impossibility of Incels You are right that I am defective, but it an't because of any social disorder. I'm defective because I do not have Alpha looks, You're projecting a lot. True, most men are not attractive to women in a sexual sense (which doesn't mean they can't find someone nor does it mean they will be forever virgin plenty of sexually unattractive men manage to find someone and mate, else there would be a lot less unattractive people) but I think it's silly to compare yourself to a defective home appliance bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/16 12:55 AM
1	The Impossibility of Incels add to that a slim build and a lack of superior facial aesthetics like Tom Cruise Errr, seen Tom Cruise in his earlier films? Guy is not only short but really not "facially attractive (big nose, weak chin, crooked teeth). His supposed good looks all come from surgery.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/16 12:41 AM
1	There's really no way to approach women without it being creepy. This	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/16 01:36 AM
1	There's really no way to approach women without it being creepy. Honestly, the whole confident thing is overstated. Sure all things being equal it's great but coming off someone creepy or unattractive it just makes it harder for you to get rid of them you know? I'd rather approach a cute, shy guy than be approached by a creepy confident one. Note that being creepy is not in itself caused by unattractiveness but by someone's failure to recognize that the person they approach is not interested (not being able to read non verbal clues and signs of disinterest) A…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/16 01:27 AM
1	There's really no way to approach women without it being creepy. yup We've had that happened a few times my friends and I and it's creepy as hell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/16 01:17 AM
2	Is a Bluepiller defined more by being against RP theory factually, or by being anti-RP/judgment of women perceived as misogynistic? Whow...looks like I missed this from a month ago However, occasionally you get a blue who is fully in favour of evolutionary psychology, but against TRP. Yup. Simply because you're against misogyny (i.e: TRP) doesn't mean you have to reject all evolutionary explanations for difference between men and women. It was interesting that this user believed that "average" women were in fact not average Here I use average in quotes because while there are obviously plenty of average women in a statistica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/16 08:20 AM
1	Is calling someone gay/queer in order to mock them homophobic? You could literally argue this about anything. "You fucking kike money grubbing thief" and say "it's not antisemitism "it's about effectively hitting people where it hurts". Er, no: Telling a random short weird looking guy that he's an ugly mutant shrimp loser is about hitting him where it hurts. The difference and what you don't seem to understand is that in the unattractive random creep scenario the speech is directed at ONE individual while in the homophobic one the speech is directed at the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 11:50 PM
1	CMV: Society Doesn't Determine Beauty Standards for Women Cultural beauty standards have changed a lot throughout centuries, especially when applied to women. Standards applied to men/what women find physically attractive is less culturally determined and more biologically hard-coded into us. As you mentioned, we have obese women on the cover of publications that pretty much sells the idea of sexuality attractive women but we don't see short, weak-chinned, bug eyes (or obese for that matter) actors on the cover of women's romance novel (or just how the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 05:28 AM
2	Is calling someone gay/queer in order to mock them homophobic? If it were just calling random creeps or losers outside 'ugly' then I would agree: it works because it gets under the loser's head; it clashes with their self image aggrandizing (else it wouldn't have any effects). But when we're talking about things like homophobia and groups that have been systematically persecuted sometimes systematically killed for what they are (Jews, homosexuals) then no, it isn't the same thing as it comes from a place of systematic hatred.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 04:39 AM
1	CMV: Our gene pool has been polluted for a long time and it's only natural that a lot of men be incel. In addition to things like an healthy immune system I'll add to this: any genes that produce traits that is considered unattractive by a large portion of the population. Yes, it may be circular but a lot of stuff in evolution is circular: Females want to mate with a male that will produce offspring which will be viewed as sexually attractive later on when it's their turn to attract a mate. So let's say you have a trait that's viewed as sexually unattractive (so organisms/people who possess this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 03:29 AM
1	CMV: In the SMV women can run into problems and disadvantages of their own, but men overall have it worse chicks are lousy at accurately gauging height, they might say they prefer 6 and over, but couldn’t tell the difference between 5’8 and 6’1 if their life depended on it. Err...no, just...no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 02:46 AM
1	Discussion: Recently discovered r/femalehate is a thing. Well, err, yeah. Misogyny is a thing and I think it predates reddit, too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 02:37 AM
2	What are the indicators that a male is attractive (High SMV) to the general female population? Physical and beyond? Sexual dimorphism (height - minimal height of 6 feet, deep set eyes, broad shoulders, rugged strong jaw etc) is a big factor. Absence of deformities, regular or "average" features. Body symmetry. Basically traits that screams "good genes" and high degree of fuckability. Also a sexually attractive smell; hotter/high degree of fuckability men just smell better to women, particularly if those women are ovulating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 02:26 AM
2	Q4Women: Do you sympathy towards Omega men who kill themselves? And don't call him 'Shirley'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 02:10 AM
1	Q4Women: Do you sympathy towards Omega men who kill themselves? I feel sympathy for anyone that has genuinely been victim of systemic oppression or those who have had (through no fault of their own) have been the victim of bad misfortune. I don't feel much sympathy for entitled Omega men who whine about their shitty genetics and how unfuckable they are. It's like dude: fucking and being seen as fuckable is not a right. But weirdly enough, it's always guys who put on murdering, violent tantrums a-la Elliot Rodgers when they are rejected as reproductively unfi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 02:07 AM
2	For men, better to go for 9s and 10s, or stick in the 5-7 range? Well ask yourself: imagine you were an high SMV male and some morbidly obese and/or deformed and/or possibly inbred woman approached you, how would you react? Would you say: "Oh wow! She may not be the most pretty girl around but she looks confident and probably has a great personality." or just "Hm, that was weird..." and continue on your merry way? I realize that men possibly have more trouble with empathy compared to women, but try to see here from her perspective: You're more attracted to se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/16 01:55 AM
1	How much do looks matter when attracted women? People mate assortively. This. Seriously: if you haven't figured or observed this by the time you're 20 then you have bigger problem than not finding someone and incidentally; it might explains why that person hasn't managed to find someone. Find someone's you're compatible with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/16 04:50 AM
1	How much do looks matter when attracted women? I remember seeing a study that shown that women actually put MORE importance into looks...but only for short term flings at least (can't find the study in question unfortunately) however if you look at say, how tinder works (guys just swipe right on auto pilot) it seem to support this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/16 04:45 AM
4	CMV: Men should be sexually selective, just like women. Treat your penis like a Yves Saint Laurent jacket. Or in other words, going "MGTOW" (lol). Yeah, the thing is: no women really care if you start being more selective and stuff because no remotely attractive women is interested in you in the first place. Sorry OP...	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/16 02:42 AM
1	I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this. Do you always refer to the scriptures to contradict feminism? Christianity is backward as far as women's rights are concerned. No shit. To be fair, there's nothing wrong with desiring women or women's company. The problem is when you start believing that you are owed a woman simply for desiring them. That's the issue. I'm not a religious person but I don't think this is necessarily incompatible with religious texts. You could ask your local pastor maybe they could offer more insight on such inte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/16 02:51 AM
1	I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this. Fuck off. Apparently, your God has made women more selective and men more desperate for women than women are desperate for men. Take it up with Him if you have a problem with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/02/16 02:47 AM
3	If a man is not having lots of sex, does that automatically make him a loser? Oh. Lol sorry. Then I guess also no. He can attracts women but he doesn't necessarily need them. If the question was basically a way to ask "does an attractive man who doesn't have tons of women orbiting him would turn you off" then the answer is definitely no. A good looking guy is still good looking imo even if he's not a womanizer. as for 2) Nor would I think that means there's something wrong with him or an underlying issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/16 08:38 AM
2	I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this. This. So much this. Women don't owe you anything. Least of all sexual and emotional fulfillment. TL;DR. Your pee-pee's fee-fees are your problem and yours alone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/16 07:17 AM
1	I think the saddest part of the Redpill vs Blue pill argument is that the Redpill is motivated by the fact that hetero men need female affection to feel normal, and the Bluepill mocks them for this. Yep. Toxic male entitlement in a nutshell.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/16 07:12 AM
3	If a man is not having lots of sex, does that automatically make him a loser? No, him not having sex does not automatically means he's a loser. Not every guy can or will be viewed as being attractive. Most men in human history didn't reproduced; it's only through marriage (recent patriarchal construct) that the ratio of men and women reproducing has been closer to one another. However, if he actually feels entitled to sex or if he is only attracted to models or if he as you say view himself as a "10" despite him being a 3 or 4 then yeah he's a loser.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/16 06:59 AM
1	Women; what do you find repulsive in men? Big nose, small frame/hands/chin, narrow shoulders; well uglozoids in a nutshell. Psychologically, men who are jealous and/or controlling.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/02/16 11:34 PM
3	CMV: The only thing that comprises "force" is a man using physical coercion or threat of same to compel a woman to do or not do something. Anything less than this is not "forcing a woman to do or not do things." Yeah. The idea that force or rape/sexual assault can only occur via literal physical force is pretty antiquated. Thankfully it's starting to change. Psychological abuse, threats, power differentials, intimidation etc can all constitute force.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/16 02:11 AM
2	Why idolize men who essentially pay for women's company? Wouldn't it make more sense to idolize men who get a lot of female attention WITHOUT being rich? Yep. It's basically a form of prostitution. Being rich doesn't make these men any less ugly/physically unattractive, it doesn't make the sex any less gross. I hope at the very least these women can get sex with an actual hot guy (so that you know, the sex is actually /enjoyable/) on the side. But unfortunately I bet these guys are possessive as fuck. They can't attract women by being who they are so they must control them. No wonder they see women as objects.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/16 01:59 AM
1	Is it possible to say something negative about women without being misogynist? Stop projecting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/16 01:52 AM
0	Is it possible to say something negative about women without being misogynist? "Feminist = KKK/White Supremacists" Yeah ok. This is why TRP can't be taken seriously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/16 02:24 AM
3	Is a man with a high n-count inherently attractive, merely by virtue of him being to get laid (usually) whenever he wants? Yeah, seem a bit more likely than this pre-selection pop evo pych stuff. I mean most women will have preferences that overlap a lot with each others (above average height, high level of facial masculinization, high sexual dimorphism etc). Those hot men will be preferred most of the time and they'll likely have a higher partner number i.e they're "pre-selected"...but that's not why they're prefered in the first place. Correlation is not the same as causation and all that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 12:58 PM
1	Is a man with a high n-count inherently attractive, merely by virtue of him being to get laid (usually) whenever he wants? No. Ron Jeremy is ugly as shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 12:52 PM
-1	Is it possible to say something negative about women without being misogynist? The term is thrown out more nowadays because people are more aware of misogyny. I'm sure in the past the term 'racism' wasn't thrown around as much, either. Basically, you want people to not call out misogynist behaviors or individuals. Also, it doesn't help that the "saying something negative about women" stuff is, most of the time, basically anti-feminist speech. I mean, you're free to say it but you're not free from the consequences or replies you will receive from said speech.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 12:35 PM
1	Q4All: Is the physical SMV counterpart to a skinn/slightly skinny fat early 20s dude an equally skinny fat girl or an overweight/obese one? That's what the name implies, yes. Blu"er" not 'blue'.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 10:38 AM
1	Most men on the manosphere equate being incel to not getting 6+ white women Because men have far lower standards when it comes to the minimal physical attractiveness level they require to be attracted to a woman. Online dating data, tinder etc shows that fairly consistently. Iow, the "average" woman is far more attractive to men than the average man is to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 10:27 AM
1	Most men on the manosphere equate being incel to not getting 6+ white women Omg this. It should be obvious. If you look like say, Michael Cera then no amount of dressing up or whatever will make you hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 10:16 AM
1	Most men on the manosphere equate being incel to not getting 6+ white women Heh :p A lot of guys seem to think they can somehow make themselves more attractive to woman in general. The reality is, provided you shower a day, aren't morbidly obese, have a job etc. Basic stuff iow, you're pretty much as attractive as you'll ever be :/ Sorry guys... You working out, "dressing better" (what does that even mean?) will not make you more attractive. If the woman doesn't like your face or you're too short for her taste or whatever turn her off from you then none of those things …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 10:10 AM
1	If not feminist dating advice, what do you think has contributed to the rise of so many socially awkward men? Well that would be physically unattractive guys. A socially shy or awkward guy can still be cute to us, provided he is physically attractive -although yes, probably really good looking guys don't tend to be socially awkward as often. Toxic masculinity has nothing to do with attractiveness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 08:44 AM
3	Q4women: would rather have children with a slightly below average husband or with a high quality sperm donor? Top quality donor obviously.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/16 08:36 AM
0	RPers, are there aspects of TRP you would like to see change? Feminists, are there aspects of feminism you'd like to see change? Feminism or any other movement to further the rights of historically oppressed groups will focus more on the rights of disadvantaged or disenfranchised individuals. If you have basic empathy you will care more for those that needs protection or are more vulnerable; those that are in immediate danger. If there's someone in a burning house you'll care and prioritize more the person stuck in the house than their neighbors two houses away. Well, golly. Like, no shit. That's like humanity 101.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/16 04:13 AM
0	If not feminist dating advice, what do you think has contributed to the rise of so many socially awkward men? This. All these things have always been there as long humans have been around. But like others things, they were much less reported. We're barely started to deconstruct toxic masculinity, we still have a long way to go.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/16 03:05 AM
1	Trp is created by men insecure about their penis size. It just seem catered to men insecure about their overall inadequacy in general and overall high levels of suckage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/16 02:02 AM
0	RPers, are there aspects of TRP you would like to see change? Feminists, are there aspects of feminism you'd like to see change? Feminists are not a monolithic entity. It's really not complicated. If you 1) believe in equal rights, especially for historically oppressed groups like women 2) Aren't a misogynist turd, then congrats: you're a feminist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/16 01:59 AM
2	Q4All: Is the physical SMV counterpart to a skinn/slightly skinny fat early 20s dude an equally skinny fat girl or an overweight/obese one? The "average" woman is inherently more attractive than the average (unattractive) man due to how we are as a species. The number of kids a male can have is (theoretically) only limited by the number of partners he can attract. So they go for quantity. Otoh, the number of children a woman can have is limited by the number of years she's fertile (well, in reality it's even less than that). So women tend to favor quality (i.e: hypergamy) From the hypergamy wiki article: "Eighty-five percent of the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/16 12:40 AM
3	For those who believe the government should ~do something~ to alleviate the woes of incels, would you be okay if they assigned unattractive women as (willing) sexual partners? "Incels" lol Won't somebody please think of the incel pee-pees' fee-fees. But yeah, legalize prostitution (make it safe for women above all else and prosecute the hell out of violent clients/johns).	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/16 11:25 PM
1	For those who believe the government should ~do something~ to alleviate the woes of incels, would you be okay if they assigned unattractive women as (willing) sexual partners? Yep. In our past I believe there was something like 1 in 17 men that actually reproduced. Monogamy (and its offshoot: marriage) is pretty recent historically and has been used to basically control women's reproduction/sexuality. It benefited reproductively unfit males (i.e: most males -giving them a shot at mating) but was reproductively deleterious for females. Stripping them of their choices/agency regarding their mating partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/16 11:13 PM
3	For those who believe the government should ~do something~ to alleviate the woes of incels, would you be okay if they assigned unattractive women as (willing) sexual partners? It's something I've also read often and it's somewhat puzzling. Like the human race is underpopulated or something. I mean, nobody cares about your genes, dude. Sheesh... But I think it speak of a larger problem of male entitlement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/16 11:03 PM