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No. I mean in terms of effort, men are below average. Many men as live in boyfriends don't do 50% chores. Men flat out refuse to give or remember birthdays , etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:49 AM
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The average man is below the average women in terms of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:00 AM
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You pay because you want to spend time with her romantically not solely to have sex. If you don't get Amy joybput of being around attractive women, then don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 10:32 PM
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Most women don't have options. Most men are not looking for a relationship-just sex. Any sex they want they don't care if you actually enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:59 AM
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Do straight men fuck men? Are you guys seduced by gay men's "game."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:16 AM
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Are you manslaining to a heterosexual woman that we fuck women. Do you straight men have sex with men? Do you hear yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:43 AM
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We heterosexual women don't have sex or go on dates with women/lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:26 AM
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What are these "results" that lesbians are pulling from heterosexual women? We are not attracted to them or any woman. Us feeling comfortable with a woman talking to us, is not "game."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:21 PM
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Lesbian/bi women have no "game" towards heterosexual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 06:34 PM
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Unless straight women sleeps with any old man, she isn't truly straight? If straight men don't want to sleep with ugly women, he must be gay huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 07:53 PM
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And? The point is that marriage has value hence gay men and women fought for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:10 PM
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It was both. And no wills rarely invalidate and invalidated marriages in the usa.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:50 AM
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If marriage has no purpose, there would be no real drive to fight for gay marriage is the point. There are tangible benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:15 PM
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Those things are hard to have without marriage and are costly. And many gay people found it didn’t have the same legal force. Gay couples had wills that were legally invalidated. Marriage over rides contracts. Hence, the gay marriage fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:14 PM
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Tell this to gay people who fought hard for legal marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:31 PM
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I disagree. There are women who are demisexual and that strategy works. I think however most women aren't demisexual. There is not one approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 06:51 PM
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I was responding to "drunk on ramen"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:11 PM
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I responded to someone who said women go after the most physically attractive man as if that is a gender norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:57 PM
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Wanting to be with someone who is physically attractive is not a gender norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 08:49 PM
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Women are happier bring single than in a crappy relationship. All things equal people are happier if in a romantic relationship provided respected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:15 PM
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No. Not for me. I don't have a crush on my friends. I just like them as people. I think this is how men feel since they only see women in a romantic context. I see my friends like siblings. Romance means romantic and exotic feelings. It means longing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 07:43 PM
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Yes, those women are bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 06:02 AM
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Asexual and bisexual women who prefer women are not heteosexual. Heteosexual women are born heterosexual. It is not due the expectation. Women finding a far smaller percentage of men attractive does not mean they are into women on any level.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 04:08 AM
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Why? Given how lesbianism is far less taboo, why don't we see more women dating and having sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:39 AM
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The vast majority of women want to have sex and romance with men. Just not the majority of men. Heterosexual women have no romantic/sexual interest in women. Not even one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 02:27 AM
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The false assumption that most people are straight does not mean the label of only into men in of itself is patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:15 AM
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Women are stereotyped as being sexually fluid, and women having sex with women is erotised by men. Yet most women want nothing to do with other women sexually or romantically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:54 PM
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Do you think men are mostly bi or gay due to this "heteronormativity."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:51 PM
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Not all women being heterosexual doesn't mean the label heterosexual is not working. It means women who are bisexual or ledbian should identify with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:47 PM
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What is patriarchal about saying most women are heterosexual. Most women are only to men. The label is not patriarchal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:27 PM
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This article is false and is gross erasure. Most women are not physically or sexually attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:10 PM
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No it is because it is easier to spread stis to women. And men are lore likely to be asymptomatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 02:49 AM
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What do you mean, not expecting to be "entertained"?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 11:27 PM
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You can be vulnerable without being whiny, a victim, and neurotic. The latter is unattractive to many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:06 AM
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How is lolicon comparable to tall rich men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:06 PM
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Huh? Women want sex too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 05:42 PM
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We literally have data on paraphilias and sex crimes to disprove this. Give it a rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:07 AM
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And you are choosing to not initiate with many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 02:16 AM
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Why do you assume the average women doesn't have and seek male partners who like being around her or are affectionate? Wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:20 AM
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Or maybe men should not give money to women they are not dating and don't give her the girlfriend experience? And it is not a woman's job to procure other women for them. So men go out of their way to introduce men they think a female friend might like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:12 PM
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Many men's contempt for women. Men only wanting sex and not any deeper is another reason. Also, higher standards beyond looks. I don't think men are more attracted. Many men admit being opened to having sex with women they think are ugly or they have a low opinion of.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:18 PM
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I don't think it is disgusting. I think it is disgusting when they claim she only befriended him for attention. Because in their minds no one would befriend someone they aren't attracted to unless it was for nefarious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:57 PM
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How not. If you are a woman and men never approach you how is that not rejection?
/r/ExRedPill26/11/21 06:13 PM
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Not that you feel attraction, but you will like them more than a woman who doesn't reciprocate.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/21 06:45 PM
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Hit on whoever you want (if they are a legal adult), just back off if she seems uncomfortable or says no.
/r/ExRedPill23/11/21 06:40 PM
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I think you should be acquaintances with women you are attracted to. But becoming a friend for a long time and hiding your intentions is what bothers women. It comes across as calculated and it makes you look at every past interaction as some type of game on his end. Also the very male assumption that if a woman likes you as a friend that she must also have underling feelings. That is not how female sexuality works. We befriend men easily that we think are ugly or aren't our type. We generally d…
/r/ExRedPill23/11/21 04:53 PM
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Why the assumption that childless men are not getting sex. A lot of men don't want children but are sexually active. Socially men are less obsessed with being a dad compared to women wanting to be a mom.
/r/ExRedPill17/11/21 03:36 AM
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Men even those that aren't redpill seem to think: women live life on easy "mode" as if men hitting on us means we don't have life responsibilities or problems(apparently we don't have to work, never are assaulted, harassed, discriminated against). Because getting fucked or the ability of being fucked by men you don't even want is an ultimate privilege That women are sleeping with the same circle of men The general resentment and hatred of good looking women With a lot of white men, the delusion …
/r/ExRedPill13/11/21 11:09 PM
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Women have it easier in terms of getting one night stands, but outside of that no. Believe it or not while it might suck or hurt to go up to someone and be rejected, some women even average looking women rarely have men approach them to begin with. It is both rejection.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/21 08:33 PM
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Yes I fell down the rabbit hole about 6 years ago. It has permanently ruined my opinion of men. Because even men who aren't necessarily redpill will make excuses or admit to believing parts of it.
/r/ExRedPill13/11/21 08:24 PM
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I don't know why you haven't dumped him.
/r/ExRedPill11/11/21 08:29 PM
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I am a woman, and I think men peak in their early 30s. They are still young, but they have a more mature outlook and have more money. But the thing is for some women in their early or mid 20s, they simply prefer men their own age. Not all women are worried about serious things like being "established." I think redpill/manosphere are screwing their followers by pretending women under 30 prefer middle aged men.
/r/ExRedPill01/11/21 11:21 PM
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No, women will often times wait to have sex with men they don't want to run away. Not just "betas" who are "safe."
/r/ExRedPill31/10/21 02:50 AM
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They also are contradicting themselves since these men and men like them love to talk about women being miserable cat ladies without men, but here he is saying men kill without access to women.
/r/ExRedPill13/10/21 04:54 PM
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I mean do you fear for your life. Lol.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 08:25 AM
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Why do you think women are dangerous.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/21 08:17 AM
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Tradesmen make a lot of money in the US too, but they still are seen as dumb. Uninonized bus drivers and truck drives in the US make six figure incomes.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/21 03:27 AM
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I always found it funny when men say things like women in their 20s are lucky because everyone wants to fuck them. And I am thinking why should a 20 something girl be happy that a 55 year old wants to fuck her?? The men who say this are operating under a scarcity mindset, but when you start suggesting specific women you will realize they have age requirements, race requirements, weight requirements, etc.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/21 11:54 PM
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This is it. Women come into friendships with men mostly genuinely wanting a friendship, but a lot of straight men are not. So yes orbiters exist, but not because women are deliberately creating or looking for them.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/21 02:02 AM
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Some women do, but it is important to understand the redpill conflates "women" with above "average looking women." The average woman doesn't have male friends falling over them. Also even if a woman has orbiters it doesn't mean she is even aware. A lot of men think hovering around a female friend will eventually lead her to falling in love with him. Some of these women just think they have a male friend.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/21 01:55 AM
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We used to call it henpecked or "whipped" but simp has morphed to any man who doesn't hate women and men who show respect and romantic gestures to women they date or want to date.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/21 01:22 AM
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It depends on how he does it. Does he reveal too much too soon-- did we just meet. Is he overly whiny about it?? Does he bring it up too much. I think I want men to be vulnerable with me, but at a certain point it becomes walling in pity.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/21 03:35 AM
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My point is these men claim to just want young pretty women, and that a woman's personality doesn't matter, but clearly it does.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 10:22 PM
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Kevin Samuels is obviously "negging" black woman because his whole agenda is to get black women and women in general to date less wealthy and attractive men.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 01:23 AM
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Black women get fewer responses in relation to other races of women, but in no way do black women get few responses. That is an important distinction. I am average looking black woman and I get more responses and likes from non black men.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 01:22 AM
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What percentage of black men say this though? I mean god, most black men in real life even when they have "options"( who are clearly not being forced to be with black women) are going for black women. The men who hate or find black women ugly tend to be more on the self loathing and misogynistic side.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 01:19 AM
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You are entitled to your opinion, but I would say most black women just don't date interracially because we aren't physically attracted or culturally attracted to other races of men. and when we are we simply don't socialize with those groups for it to happen. It is not because we don't get hit on them. I don't know many black women who haven't been hit on arab, white, latino men. Even east asian men have hit on me.
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 01:17 AM
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When black women complain about our dating problems it is that a lot of black men don't make enough money or don't want to commit. We are not complaining about not being seen as "desirable" by white or other men. Black women are not like Asian women, we don't put a lot of value in dating white men and we generally don't see them as "aspirational" or anything like that. Those who do date interracially simply don't think we are "dating up" because most prefer same race dating and ultimately a blac…
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 01:14 AM
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Most black women in the US only prefer to date black men, so being seen as the "bottom" of the totem poll by white, Asian, or other non black men doesn't bother most black women. The redpills obsession with black women lack of desirability is a defense mechanism. It burns them that a group they think should be desperate still is indifferent to them. Sort of how they hate fat women, but still expect thoe fat women to want or feel grateful towards them Ops post is transparent. Lol. This topic does…
/r/ExRedPill25/09/21 12:33 AM
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I also noticed they seem preoccupied with women who are popular which is weird since they claim men only care about looks. Like, there are unpopular and introverted women who are beautiful and I sense they don't really want them. A woman who is "about town" is clearly a status symbol for them.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 10:00 PM
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Most men are not even pretending to be looking for long term relationships and that typically is where men get sex. A lot of men who are virgins are not necessarily being rejected for relationships-- they are being rejected for hook-ups. What I mean is that men in the past would get in relationships in exchange for sex, but some men would rather go "monk" than do that. Plus you have dating advice that tells men they are "simps" for planning and paying for dates. So a lot of women who would date …
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 09:35 PM
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Some women do like having guys around they have no desire for for ego purposes. But a lot of times it is the men who are misreading women. Women are open to being friends with men they have no sexual interest in, whereas men are more likely to not bother befriending women they aren't attracted to on some level. So what ends up happening is these men "orbit" the women assuming the women will eventually throw them a bone-- because in his mind "why would she befriend me unless she on some level wan…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 09:02 PM
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It is arrogant for any sex to think they are the "prize". But in context I think redpillers want women to make the first move and to do what we used to call "courting." I think regardless of feminism this is not going to work, so yes men are the ones who on some level at least in the beginning of a relationship act as if women are the prize. A lot of redpillers shoot themselves in the foot because they think initial gestures-- planning and paying for dates makes you a "simp" or "beta" which iron…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 07:55 PM
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But women have to be physically attractive too. LOL.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 07:49 PM
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This might be sexist, but generally women are the ones who "sell themselves." Women will do a sexy pose or wear something tight and revealing to elicit a physical reaction. While women like good looking men, if a men is primping it comes across as effeminate. There is a reason as a society we kind of make fun of straight men who are gym nuts/bodybuilders posing in front of the mirror while we are okay women exhibiting this attention seeking behavior. Most homophobic jokes or tropes about gay men…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 07:36 PM
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If you are overly interested women/me might think you don't have that many options. Which in turn makes me wonder why. Are you weird, are you creepy. Is there a flaw about you that I haven't seen. I think if you come across as clingy overly interested a woman might say I am an average woman, why is he "over reacting." I wouldn't engage in "push and pull" but I would try to play it cool and not come across as desperate.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 07:29 PM
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Topless photos of men to me as a women screams he is just looking for hookups, is narcissistic, and is effeminate. I think if you add a shirtless photo it should be one of a couple clothed photos to offset it. But if it is the only photo or one of only two or three...
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 07:21 PM
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Yeah their delusion there is this one guy without a name who is sleeping with all/most women is a cope and exaggeration. Even good looking men don't have immediate sex access to women. They have to play the game too-- go on real dates, talk about themselves, get the women comfortable, give the impression of wanting a relationship etc.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 06:56 PM
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Yes. That is the problem. These men want women to just have sex with them with no effort and without any respect. For them to just snap their fingers and women to come running for sex. A lot of these men could get sex but it would require a couple of coffee dates and a promise for a relationship or at least some emotional disclosure3 before she felt comfortable having sex.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 06:52 PM
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I am saving this post to use. You broke it down.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/21 06:39 PM
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Ok, did I say all.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/21 03:47 PM
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Most men prefer big boobs, but not many men think a flat chested woman they are dating is their second option. Women are capable of finding less conventional beauty in men like men.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/21 03:26 PM
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I see FDS tell women to not accept BDSM from men, don't accept negging from men, don't except netflix and chill(a great way to be roofied and date raped) from men. Most of it is reactive to manosphere tips on manipulating men. The only toxic thing I see is them calling men "scrotes. "
/r/ExRedPill16/09/21 08:51 PM
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I can't believe people are lying and stretching themselves to pretend FDS is as bigoted as redpill/manosphere garbage. Telling women to vet men before sleeping with them and making men make an effort is not abusive to men. I do think they tend to be too conservative, but they antipathy is towards men who manipulate women, not men in general. Women protecting themselves is not misandry.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/21 08:17 PM
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They need to understand not everyone uses tinder and those that do don't necessarily sleep with every connect.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/21 01:02 AM
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If you want to get self loathing and insecure women then yes some of their tips can work, but why do you want those women to begin with??
/r/ExRedPill01/09/21 10:04 PM
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Sometimes it is not about the other guy being "hot" (or being a "bad boy") but him just having more immediate chemistry and/or he isn't as pushy. Don't think because she makes you wait one month that means she doesn't like you as much as the guy she had sex with two weeks in. Think of it this way, as a man you treat women differently and invest in them differently. For some women you will make more effort planning dates and with other women you are lazy. That hurts women's feelings and makes the…
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 11:51 AM
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Why do you think women who don't have one night stands are "good girls." Do you think if you were able to have a one night stand that you would be a "bad boy."
/r/ExRedPill08/08/21 11:33 AM
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I agree. And it comes in waves, because about 10 years ago at the beginning of social media there was a lot of black women bashing and it only subsided because of some bans and the increase in police brutality coverage. But it is coming back which is sad.
/r/ExRedPill05/08/21 02:06 AM
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I am not sure if you are trolling. But most of the redpill channels that talk about black women are from other black men. Naturally they would talk about black women since that is who they are around a lot. Those that aren't black are going to be naturally racist since hard core sexist tend to be racist. The way to stop this is to to get these men banned from social media. On a personal level you need to start laying down the law with black male family, "friends", co workers who vocalize negativ…
/r/ExRedPill04/08/21 03:27 AM
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Meaning you either make a lot of money or are at the top of your career or both.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 09:19 PM
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They mean women only going after men who have reached a level of success financially and career wise.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 07:47 PM
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They mean career and financial success.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 07:47 PM
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Why should women be attracted to men who aren't successful. People want people who are attractive in the present. Men don't want to be with fat women who might lose weight in 6 months.
/r/ExRedPill25/07/21 07:40 PM
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He won't even define wealthy. He says 6 figures, but most of his followers don't have that much money. If you aren't wealthy or good looking you need to accept that you will not have above average looking women-- especially if you hold so much resentment towards them.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/21 07:16 PM
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I was lurking on a black male forum and someone asked what qualifies Kevin Samuel's to give advice. All the posters got angry and said he doesn't need qualifications. Yet I am sure if a woman who was divorced twice, single, and was over 40 was giving advice on what men need to do, people wouldn't take her seriously. I am a black women, and I have to say the black mansophere/redpill makes no sense. Expectations are low for black men in the USA so they can be a "catch"(to black american women) by …
/r/ExRedPill19/07/21 01:50 AM
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I am a black woman.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/21 09:44 PM
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Eh, Well I am black american and not flattered by your comment. Either way redpill rhetoric doesn't necessarily reflect black american woman's dating prospects so I am not sure about the underrated thing. Either way most black american woman prefer to date other black men-- attention from other races is not valued or considered flattering.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/21 07:22 PM
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There has been a bizarre self loathing anti black woman sentiment on social media since the start of social media. A lot of these black manosphere guys just combined it with the redpill movement. White/non black manospheres are just racist and white nationalist as is the case with most sexist. There is an overlap of sexism and white nationalism. I guess what is just weird is you have black american men online spouting white nationalist talking points as if they aren't black too.
/r/ExRedPill12/07/21 06:57 PM
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We can and should.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/21 09:42 PM
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There are two youtubers who review his videos critically. One is called black manosphere watch. He has said some really scary stuff.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/21 01:06 PM
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He literally has a new video saying men should smack women on the bottom for misbehaving. Months ago he told women they shouldn't bother leaving a man who hits her because once she hits the wall she will not be able to get another man.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/21 01:06 PM
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Kevin Samuels explicitly tells men to beat women and for women to stay with men who hit them-- but I wouldn't say most redpill/manosphere "leaders" are nearly as explicit. Kevin Samuels is at the extreme end and his content is highly racially charged and anti black woman.
/r/ExRedPill09/07/21 02:43 AM
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Most people are not social butterflies with great looks nor a complete loser with ugly looks. Most people are in the middle. The binary outlook just dumbs everything down.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/21 03:13 PM
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A lot of men want sex outside of relationships and many become bitter and fall for the manosphere. Men can get sex if they pursue women in a more serious manner. Most women don't want one night stands.
/r/ExRedPill17/06/21 03:09 PM
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A lot of it is that they feel men have less power since men are socially expected to pursue and make the first move. They think this gives women an upper-hand. The fact that men also buy sex or look at naked women more than the reverse make some men feel like men have less sexual power.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/21 01:34 AM
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FDS can't be compared to redpill or MGTOW. They are not nearly as toxic, although there are problems with that movement. FDS mostly is about getting women to weed out men who aren't looking for a serious relationship, men who want to make no effort, and men who are misogynistic. The problem with FDS is they take things too far and start expecting men to jump through hoops and to take dating too seriously.
/r/ExRedPill28/05/21 12:38 AM
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It is not though. There is not a significant differences between women who give birth at 35 and 25. It is exaggerated.
/r/ExRedPill22/05/21 02:37 AM
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I know men's sperm quality goes down, but physically men can impregnate women even in old age. After awhile women have no eggs. I do agree people exaggerate the age at which women can't. My mother had me at 39 and my sibling at 40 and they were natural births. Women have been having children past 35 for years, and I cringe at it being called "geriatric pregnancy."
/r/ExRedPill21/05/21 01:50 AM
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Most redpillers don't want to be fathers or have conventional lives, so there fertility obsession is just a way of putting women down. Women are not fertile for life like men, so it is one way they can feel better than women.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/21 08:59 PM
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I said most. Most average looking women are not chasing after rich men or "chads." This is a myth that red-pillers say. They exaggerate how many women are going after the top 20% of men.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/21 12:37 AM
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Women do have higher standards then men (we don't just get with guys because they are nice and good looking like men) but that is not the same thing as women wanting or perusing men out of their league which is what hypergamy is.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/21 12:28 AM
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Most women do consider wealth as part of men's value, but in no way are most women chasing or desiring men who make significantly more than them. Women more or less want men who make the same range.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/21 12:02 AM
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I notice MRAs/mgtows do this with assuming most women in their 20s (a woman's peak in their minds) go through the "cock carousal." It is projection because if THEY were a straight women they would like to do that. But most women don't want to have sex with male strangers, have orgies, or have casual sex. Most prefer to get with a few attractive men in semi long term relationships.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/21 11:59 PM
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They believe that because they only focus on women out of their league who are more likely to practice hypergamy.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/21 05:32 PM
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Yes women can't afford to get with a man just because he is nice and handsome. That doesn't benefit women or any children she might have. Men have to have qualities that will make them a good husband and father. That includes job, stable mine, and certain levels of competence. Women shouldn't be made fun of or hated for this. It is for the protection of her theoretical children.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/21 08:37 PM
1

No, why would there be. A lot of red pill/mgtow is based on the idea that women are worthless after 30 and women are only their looks. Lesbians like straight women want age appropriate partners and aren't nearly as obsessed about looks or having a "trophy."
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 09:56 PM
1

Most women aren't picky, men just have zero standards outside of "be pretty" and "be nice to me."
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 09:53 PM
1

The men who say this endorse men sleeping around and not settling-- so can't this be said about them. That "he is no yours, its just your turn."
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 09:52 PM
3

Any woman who does online dating sees men lie about their age. Men who are clearly middle aged pretending to be in their late 20s or early 30s. They wouldn't lie if they truly felt young women loved older men. It is a cope.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 05:33 PM
1

Most women want guys a couple years older than them at most. The age group that they obsess about --- early 20s women are less interested in age gaps because at that age they don't care about stability. As I got older (late 20s), I became open to the idea of being with a guy over 10 years older. But in my early 20s the idea was gross or not on my radar. When you are in your early 20s as a woman ironically when we are a hot commodity you don't care about an old mans "stability" or "wealth"-- you …
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 05:28 PM
1

I find that a lot of black men don't want to seriously date, but will go on these dating websites. It isn't even about misogyny, but they don't want to go on real dates unless it is hanging out at his place or yours.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 04:42 PM
1

It is pedophilia in the sense if the age of consent was lower they would jump at it and call young adult women too old. They are only with women in their early 20s because they can't legally get with 14 year olds.
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 04:15 PM
12

Are you kidding??
/r/ExRedPill21/03/21 04:04 PM
-3

No because men refuse to put in the work and create more organizations to fight it. No one gave a crap about men beating their wives until feminist started creating domestic violence shelters and protesting. Do you know the concept of a domestic violence shelter didn't exist until the 60s.
/r/MensRights20/03/21 03:00 AM
1

But saying person of color points that they are NOT white men. I don't like the terms person of color or woman of color mainly because it pretends that other minorities have dealt with the same issues as black Americans. It is time to retire in most contexts.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 11:34 PM
1

True. But that is because people don't view men as men-- but just people. Men are the default.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 11:10 PM
1

Black men are seen as more violent than black women-- partly because they are. This might be partly the reason why they have trouble in school. Either way in the case of underachievement a lot of the problem is middle class black boys feel the need to pretend they are ghetto(look at the number of rappers who actually grew up middle class in 2 parent households) and end up self sabotaging. Anything ranging from committing petty crimes, not doing school work, getting into fights, doing drugs, etc.…
/r/MensRights07/03/21 10:59 PM
1

Or maybe it is because they don't have negative stereotypes and don't deal with significant employment discrimnation?
/r/MensRights07/03/21 10:52 PM
1

Black women do better than men of any race, even if they are not preferred at the same rates as other races of women in the US. We don't need your pity.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 10:22 PM
2

When people think of black people or people in general they think of men. Men are unmarked-- women are marked. Men are viewed as the default. Black men in general are more represented in the media. The token "black" in stock photos, commercials, etc is an unambiguous black man. Black women are replaced by mixed/light skinned women or are not shown at all.
/r/MensRights07/03/21 10:20 PM
1

It is because Kamala identifies as a "Woman of color" and "mixed" Barack Obama was also mixed but identified as just black and he explained why. Also Obama looked more stereotypically black and Kamala looks more mixed(her "black" father is lightskined, whereas Obamas dad was dark skinned straight from Kenya).
/r/MensRights07/03/21 10:17 PM
18

Even low value men have leverage over the average woman when it comes to serious commitment.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/20 05:29 AM
1

They want women with few partners but I actually think most would be opposed to a virgin since she doesn't have much experience and might be overly attached.
/r/RedPillWomen25/12/19 02:01 AM
5

And this is why one night stands and hook ups don't benefit women. Women need to have a long conversation before having sex to lay down the rules.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy28/11/19 06:29 PM
4

In spite of having thicker skin I don't think men actually age better. People just are not visually attuned to critiquing men's looks so their aging is less noticeable.
/r/RedPillWomen22/10/19 02:52 AM
1

You can run a criminal background check without social media. There are websites that do it for a low price.
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy07/10/19 04:18 PM
1

Most men are rarely denied access to their children. The courts generally only deny father custody if the dude is abusive or if he doesn't file for custody to begin with-- most men just go for weekend/limited custody. Regardless bachelors regardless of how much success they might have are useless sexually and romantically to women. Men fantasies of being a bachelor juggling a bunch of women and avoiding commitment is not relevant to women.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 11:00 PM
2

There is no such thing as a "high quality" MGTOW/bachelor dude. Mens value from a straight women's perspective is his providership and commitment to a woman and his offspring. A handsome billionaire who refuses to marry is inferior to a regular income ugly dude who desires marriage and fatherhood. Being a bachelor, male slut, and player is honestly a male fantasy. And after a certain age it is pathetic to women and honestly even some men.
/r/RedPillWomen23/07/19 01:15 AM
1

You don't notice the physical changes of someone when you see them everyday. I hadn't seen my mother in months, but when I did I noticed how old she is. I think in a way you tend to see your boyfriend/husband as the same young man you first met mentally.
/r/RedPillWomen29/03/19 05:20 AM
2

Women give birth to babies with heads that are almost always bigger than any penis. Once again a womans vagina and vulva only get bigger with age or giving birth.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/01/19 10:24 PM
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Age and pregnancy --not penises make a womans vagina and vulva hang/get bigger.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/19 06:46 AM
1

Bezos was making low six figures when he met his soon to be ex wife. She also came from a wealthy family and went to an Ivy league school, so she was his equal. Therefore he had no reason to believe he would lose much if they divorced. He wouldn't become a millionaire until 4 years into the marriage. Since women do most of the cooking, cleaning, child rearing, etc in a couple married men get their needs met. Also contrary to common wisdom it is easier to get sex within a relationship than being …
/r/MGTOW25/01/19 10:27 PM
1

This is all true. But honestly white men are more opposed to dating a white woman who has dated black men, than white woman who are opposed to white men having dated black women. What does that tell you?? That white men are far more obsessed about race and entitled than white women. In addition East Asian and south Asian men feel more entitled and obsessed with having sex with white women compared to south Asian women. The point is I think both sexes feel entitled equally.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 02:40 AM
2

Should single dads stay single?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/01/19 12:08 AM
1

But that doesn't really prove anything. Because while women might not be attracted to a mans looks, women look at other things anyways. Meaning even if a woman ratted a man being below average in looks, she can still be attracted to him sexually due to other factors.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/01/19 10:38 PM
1

How is that any different than ugly, old, and or fat women are viewed by men?? ​
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/01/19 04:25 AM
3

I sort of agree, but for different reasons. To me a friend --best or otherwise is a strictly asexual relationship. I don't like when people refer to love interest as friends. The love you have for your parents, sibling, friends, and romantic partner are all important but different. I don't see the point in using a word to describe more than one thing.
/r/RedPillWomen13/01/19 10:14 PM
2

The cheating scandal will break tomorrow. He cheated with a news anchor.
/r/MGTOW10/01/19 12:04 AM
0

The problem is you think that most men aren't douche bags. I am not saying this to be flippant or sexist, but this idea that only bad boys/thugs behave a certain way is false. Many nice guys are pedophiles, abusers, lazy, and sexist. Many of the behavior is brushed aside because it seems minor in the beginning but grows over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 04:55 AM
2

People don't show their crazy until marriage many times. You can't predict everything.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/01/19 12:27 AM
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What about divorced women who filed for divorce because their ex husband beat or cheated on them?? Not all single mothers had their children outside of wedlock-- especially women outside the black community.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/12/18 07:50 AM
7

Well you BIL is almost a decade older than your husband so you can't expect them both to be on the same level.
/r/RedPillWomen15/12/18 03:47 AM
1

Why didn't he just put her on an allowance??
/r/MGTOW12/12/18 02:47 AM
3

Why didn't the nerdy/nice black guys date outside of their race before the money?? Why wait after?? They are proving the opposite point.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/18 06:58 AM
1

And men think women want a passive guy who supplicates and is nice, when women are indifferent at best. Acting normal without all the sniveling is what most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:29 AM
1

I would Not using friendship as a dating strategy. I would build rapport and sexual tension with female acquaintances in order to get laid find a girlfriend I would lift weights and dress slightly above average. Not to well dressed as you might come across as metro sexual. I would study hard to get into a high income job-- finance or STEM(but wouldn't act like the typical STEM nerd) I would try/practice to act extroverted and forward I would avoid being friends with men who weren't successful wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 03:19 AM
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Why don't men understand women enjoy the physical pleasures of sex and don't need an emotional connection each time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 08:14 AM
1

No, it makes fun of men who use friendship as a dating strategy. Building rapport and cold approaching female acquaintances (not close friends) is the best way to get with women. Women don't pursue friendships with men in order to date them. Male friend 8/10 to a woman means a neutral at best or asexual man to her.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/12/18 07:49 AM
1

Women who shame men for not wanting fat women are ridiculous just like you concern trolling over women not wanting to get with a "safe" ugly poor man. Here is the thing, you men can't complain about your wives/girlfriends not wanting to have sex with you or respecting you when you are demanding women to go against their basic sex drive and preferences. Just like women can't bitch about men wanting young women. Life is too short to complain about built in preferences. Also most women know they wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 06:05 AM
2

Yes!! Thank you for calling men out for what they claim women do. Women and men want the opposite of what men want. Nice, humble, kind, supplication, indecisiveness are FEMININE characteristics. This doesn't mean women want mean or disrespectful men. Partners shouldn't mirror each other on supplication or submissiveness or passivity (that is what men men when they say "nice"). Women want independent men who are respectful but have strong boundaries and a strong self of sense outside of women. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:12 AM
1

Being humble, nice, and not an asshole are not exclusive to ugly or poor men though. Honestly it is better to be dumped and pumped by a good looking high status man than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:04 AM
1

So?? Good looking young women also have more options. But at the end of day that is what makes a woman attractive so that is what men are going to pursue. Why would a woman get with a ugly poor man?? That is like a guy getting with a fat woman because she has fewer options and has a "good personality" Sounds pointless unless you are okay with settling. I also find the concern trolling over women going for attractive men to be odd. Everyone knows those with options are harder to get, but it is wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:03 AM
1

Is this is a real question/statement. What other than looks, money, or status would a woman need a man for. This is like saying or asking why men like young good looking women. Duh. What other reason would you get romantically with someone??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 05:00 AM
2

Who cares about power. Some women are willing to look for potential rather than a guy who already has the career than be with an old dude. Men die younger to begin with so getting with a guy double your age will make you an early widow. Also physical attractiveness is more important to women under 30 as a preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:41 AM
1

I mean emotion in terms of talking about your problems. Men seem upset at men who do this more than women. Women would view it as a normal conversation among friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:30 AM
2

Once a woman has the children she desires and can not longer have children she will be more open to younger men. Women at that point don't want to remarry or at least are in no hurry since they are past their reproductive phase and now can just have fun. Honestly if I ever divorce I wouldn't bother with older men unless he was very good looking or if I wanted to remarry. If you just want flings you might as well do it with a man who is more physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:29 AM
1

And the shaming happens by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:22 AM
3

Exactly. Men especially the men that are part of the manosphere grossly estimate how much access to quality men the average woman has. Just because men have low bars for sex, doesn't mean they have low bars for real relationships. Part of the problem too is most men think as long as a man isn't psycho he must be a "nice guy." They also have a delusion that all women are promiscuous party girls who passed up on quality men. Most women in their early 20s are not living that life. They ignore that …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 04:06 AM
2

There is a middle ground between promiscuous women and women who have more than two partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 01:50 AM
4

I normally would say she is an asshole, but the ring is huge and ugly. Even men can see it is ugly.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/11/18 10:27 AM
1

Your husband is disrespectful and doesn't respect women.
/r/RedPillWomen27/11/18 09:53 AM
2

A lot of black men have internal racial issues with their blackness and lash out at black women and girls. I am surprised you are lighter skinned. Normally they target darker skinned black women.
/r/RedPillWomen15/10/18 07:41 AM
2

Yes you choose not to apply to a crappy job. Men don't pursue every women. Ugly women, fat women, old women are not getting chosen. When you don't approach or think of approaching a woman because you aren't physically attracted to them-- you are choosing.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 09:50 PM
2

You must not be black. Having a big shapely butt is a plus in the black community.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/10/18 09:41 PM
1

There are classes on deportment. One below is good. ​ http://beaumontetiquette.com/online-courses/
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/18 11:48 PM
1

Neither sex ask do they want to fuck. Women also subconsciously see a man as handsome or not.
/r/RedPillWomen28/09/18 11:44 PM
1

Hilarious that none of the white Redpillers want to take this on.
/r/TheRedPill13/09/18 01:07 AM
1

Good post, a man that actually gets it.
/r/seduction11/09/18 05:44 AM
1

It is not weird not to be treated like a child. Don't fix someones problem period.
/r/TheRedPill11/09/18 04:48 AM
1

Referring to women as "princesses" is a great way to repulse women. Women are regular people--- even if they are beautiful. I don't know why there is this paternalistic impulse in so many men, but you will do better with women when you don't put them on a pedestal. Bad boys in most cases aren't bad nor abusive. They just treat women in a more indifferent way. Supplication is not masculine --- it is submissive, and most women don't want submissive men. ​ Aside from looks, status, and money, women…
/r/seduction11/09/18 04:44 AM
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Not taking a lucrative job that will help you retire early and or travel just because you don't get laid or plan on getting married is pathetic. That attitude is probably the source of your problems.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 01:12 PM
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No that isn't true. You are projecting. Women feel it is ready to have children and don't want it by men who are impulsive and financially unstable. Everyone should date people who are just for fun and marry people they are still attracted to but who are more down to earth and stable. The reason many women don't want to date "nice guys" is because they move to fast and want love when women just want fun. Don't act like a husband to a girlfriend.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 09:32 AM
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It already happens to women. Why are we pretending a lot of guys aren't chasing after causal sex with hot women, but when it is time to marry they get with average looking women with few sexual partners??
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 09:14 AM
1

I think most of the men on the show were average looking. The only woman who got good looking men was Samantha. But the recurring male characters save Smith Jared or whatever his name was were average looking. Look at who Miranda and Charlotte married.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 04:26 AM
1

Like I said white women and asian women and others are less likely to have a shapely butt regardless of having a small or big butt. Black women are more liekly to have a bubble butt even when small. A bubble butt is mostly heart or pear shaped. And LOL at you thinking black men end up with mostly white blondes although kim kardashian and her aesthetic is the preferred aesthetic for black men that date white women. The blond fetish is a white man obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/18 02:20 PM
1

I never said such thing. And your personal experience seems like fantasy or you live in a very specific community where white women are preferred, because nationwide statistics say otherwise. Why would black women care that other men don't want black women was my question??
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 12:35 AM
1

Bitter over what?? It seems you want to upset me that hispanic men and others don't want black women although black women don't find them attractive in general anyways. How do you want me to feel?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 11:04 PM
1

The real definition of hypergamy is going for men with more status and wealth. To men on the redpill/mra circuit it means social skills and looks. Or hell having any standard other than a penis and a smile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:34 AM
1

There can't be a small subset of sluts since mens demand for sex is too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:32 AM
4

Fat people don't hate ice cream though. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 05:30 AM
6

I understand this. But I don't understand the hostility towards these women outside of the context of a long term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:31 AM
3

It is not about what I care about. I am asking how do you reconcile being upset that there aren't any women to commit to that AREN'T sluts but you create sluts by sleeping with said women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:10 AM
4

Men wouldn't like that though. Men want one night stands with hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 04:01 AM
5

Hate and disrespect are the same thing given the context. There is a viseral yuck feeling towards promiscuous women. And prostitutes are killed by their johns and randos all the time because they are viewed as base.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:58 AM
0

It is his responsibility in the sense men now have a smaller pool of eligible long term female partners. Redpill can't complain about modern women being too slutty and un loyal, blah blah and at the same time increasing womens body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:56 AM
1

My premise is based on talking points made by black men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:41 AM
4

But you are not being honest. Men don't respect sluts at all. They are subject to violence and ridicule even if they don't seek to trade up for commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:39 AM
1

It makes complete sense. When asked why do so many black men act violent, black men will say black women love thugs. When asked why more black men don't study science or do nerdy things they say it is because black women don't like it. I think ruining your life for sex seems silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 03:30 AM
1

This world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 02:59 AM
2

Really?? Do a Google image of attractive men vs attractive women. The men vary in age, complexion, appearance, etc. The women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 02:23 AM
6

LOL. But she doesn't love you. She just wants your penis for orgasm. Similar to men who will "lower" themselves and have sex with an ugly and/or fat woman. There is no private "love" or even lust. She is still disgusted by your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 12:22 AM
2

Alpha of course. Because sex with an attractive person will always be better. In the same way a man will enjoy sex more if the woman is beautiful than ugly even if the sex is identical or even inferior.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 11:35 PM
1

But most men are average. Most people are average by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 11:28 PM
1

You missed the point. Someone said women want alphas who can't fuck over betas that can because sex "is mental for women" That is false. Women will go with an alpha because he is already attractive so mediocre sex is the price to pay in being with an alpha. It has nothing to do with "mental" stimulation. Just like a hot chick is already hot so mediocre sex is the price you pay over good sex with an ugly chick. Alpha males are not just "popular"(although it is a factor). They generally are more m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:54 PM
1

Those people are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:41 PM
2

So you agree men will get with good looking women who can't provide good sex??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:34 PM
3

You don't know what you are talking about. LOL at saying when care less about physical pleasure. No wonder you men in this thread can't get laid. It is not about not wanting physical pleasure. It is similar to a guy preferring to have sex with a hot chick who just lays there over an ugly girl who can ride a penis and suck a penis well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:29 PM
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Same with men. A man will enjoy sex with a hot chick who just lays there over an ugly chick who can give good head. It has nothing to do with sex being "mental."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:25 PM
3

That is not a good goal in life since most men can't achieve that. Not even good looking guys. Most women don't want men for pure sex. You will only get that from gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 10:22 PM
1

What city do you live in?? Marriage and dating statistics say otherwise when it comes to black men. Even rich black men mostly get with black women even though they have the option to go for other women. I think there is a confirmation bias. I noticed with a lot of white/asian/hispanic men is they take more notice of black men who date out of their race and ignore the millions that don't. I think it confirms their own prefrences so they exaggerate how common it is. I also think a lot of them are…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 09:26 PM
2

Men who are chubby chasers will hide their attraction. Men who prefer red heads and brunettes will feign some interest in blonds when talking about women they like. Men who prefer smaller breast still are aware of what other guys like-- which are big breast.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 09:22 PM
1

I still don't see the whole butt shape thing more common among black women. But besides it is hard to tell anyways since weight effects the shape of butts(and there are disparities in obesity). You would have to compare women of similar BMIs to get an accurate assessment. I do find it hilarious that you think a round ass is more common among white women, when everyone knows bubble butts are more common in black women, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 09:18 PM
1

You can't make better choices in mates if all men are substandard. The best black women can do is just use proper birth control to avoid having children with those men. I personally would rather go to the sperm bank if there are no husband material to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 09:12 PM
1

Not by black men. But I am not sure why black women should care since black women don't find asian or white men attractive anyways. So it ends up working.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 09:11 PM
1

Given this board hates women over 25 I don't see how mens love is deep or unconditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/18 12:13 AM
1

HAAS are mostly white women and they want to date men of their own race.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:58 PM
1

I didn't say there is a prejudice that was someone else. Their is a cultural bias in white dominated societies. Regardless I am not saying anyone is obligated to prefer their own race. What I was saying is that white worship is not objective but cultural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:56 PM
1

It is not racism but it is not objective is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:27 PM
1

Single motherhood is NOT a matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:10 PM
1

No most are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:09 PM
1

Hell the source is now. Even with western media most black people prefer their own. Look at the number of rich black men and women who still marry other black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 11:00 PM
1

What happens if most men in your community are deadbeats though?? Women want children so they will have to settle with deadbeats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:53 PM
1

I did and I don't see what that has to do with interracial relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:34 PM
1

Decline in what??
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:07 PM
1

You missed the point. I am saying races prefer their own race. Chinese people are naturally pale so of course they prefer pale skin. It has nothing to do with wanting white people. Dark skinned people prefer their own pre colonlism/western media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:06 PM
1

I can't change your opinion so I won't bother. But round hips, and a square jaw are masculine traits. So is being hairy which is more common in white men and white women. What is a square but anyways?? Black men that date outside of their race tend to objectify mixed women or women that look like Kim Kardashian-- not Kate Upton. LOL. Look at the women rich/famous black men date when they date /marry outside of their race. There are few blonds. Mostly jet black exotic looking women. Not cornfed b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:04 PM
2

But most women don't say this. That is the issue. It is mostly men barking at women that women don't care about looks. It is mostly nice guys ignorantly telling women what women should or do want. It is odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:33 AM
7

The same can be said of men. I don't get how this is a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:25 AM
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LOL. Black people don't have smaller cheekbones, it is the opposite. Square jaw is masculine and a round jaw is feminine. You are making stuff up. Black women don't have square butts(white women do and that is masculine). Most black men that date white women go for white women with darker features and jet black hair-- not blond!! You are grasping for straws which makes me think you don't even believe what you are writing. Wide waist/obesity is a cultural issue and not genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:24 AM
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Yes men are getting or trying to get with women that are better looking and significantly younger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:06 AM
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Exactly. It is like women being upset that men like younger women. Let it go. There is nothing wrong with wanting a man who is wealthy and accomplished. Hell I would say it is less superficial to go for that since at least the person worked for it as opposed to looks which is genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:03 AM
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There are stats however on educational and income disparities and most high profile men don't marry women who work as cashiers at popeyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:02 AM
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Assortative mating is not hypergamy. People simply gravitate towards people who have the same lifestyle and goals. For the record rich men who could have anyone they want also get with women who are at least highly educated and accomplished.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 10:00 AM
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A lot of flamboyant men are extroverted and charismatic things women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:53 AM
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No there are not if you aren't attracted to other men. Most women except for asian women prefer their own. Plus the racial dynamics in the US are toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:47 AM
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No, most people don't want to date outside their race. Plus many white men are racist and voted for Trump. Why the hell would black women date white men enmass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:45 AM
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What does robust mean? White people have square jaws and more prominent brow bones all features that are masculine. White women are also more hairy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:41 AM
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What are these masculine features?? White women tend to be more hairy and have more boxy faces. In contrast black women and black men have rounder jaws and less hairy. Black women also tend to have wider hips and rounder butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:39 AM
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Snow white is a European fairy tale. Of course Europeans would prop up their own beauty. LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:34 AM
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Because Chinese people are naturally pale. Not because of white people who have a weird pinkish undertone in their skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:33 AM
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Black women don't look like men and don't have "higher testosterone."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:29 AM
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No, it is because black women find white and asian men unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:28 AM
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Most black women don't find other men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:27 AM
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It seems men are more obsessed with forcing altruism on womens sexual choices. I can't tell you how many times women would be discussing the looks of a guy and some man jumped in and lectured us that women don't care about looks. Whenever women talk about looks or something more "superficial" men jump in and either ask why does it matter or lectures us that women care more about personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:21 AM
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Women do want nice guys. But our definition of nice guys is different than men. Men confuse nice guy with supplicating and passive aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 09:18 AM
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Someone who was actually white said black men are advanced in MRA principles and unfortunately they are correct. Ironically this is why the black community is is shambles. Women don't have to prove ourselves, it is men that should court and compete for women by being providers and making effort. This is how it exist in stable communities. You really have black men bragging about basic stuff like not having a felony or a regular job. The standards have hit rock bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:29 AM
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Also most women are more realistic when it comes to assessing our level than men. Most women don't bother chasing millionaires, athletes, CEOs. Most women just want a guy with a stable job. Men who think money and career stability don't matter are abusive and just losers. And yes in the black community(I am black so I can say this) this is a sore point with a lot of black men since they can't or simply don't think they need to make an effort to be a provider. Even if you are into equality/modern…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:01 AM
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Your post reminds me of the black community. Black women are called gold diggers for wanting the most basic things,(even saying you want a guy with a full time job will get you the label of being an evil black bitch) yet if we get with a poor guy and he ups and leaves and become single mothers we are blamed for not "choosing better."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 05:33 AM
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WIC is directed to women because women are stuck raising babies, not because women are privileged. Being stuck raising children is not a privilege and makes you financially dependent on a man or the government(which is measly and benefits are cut all the time).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:54 AM
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Courtship rituals is because women have more to lose. Honestly I don't know why men think sex should be easy. It is just selfish. Women are at a physical disadvantage. And women are ultimately blamed if she gets with a loser, deadbeat husband/father. So women shouldn't settle. Men have less to lose if they get with a substandard woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:45 AM
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Why do men say this when men are the same. It doesn't take long to notice if someone is hot, ugly, annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:34 AM
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The men who say that reduce life to getting laid. Anyone with awareness can see most writers, scientist, judges, legislatures, presidents/prime ministers, directors, artist are men or are areas that are male dominated. Most things are directed to men(save advertising due to women buying more) unless specified to women. Hell we have the term "chick flick" or womens literature precisely because men are treated as the default otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:30 AM
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Most British women and women in general are brunettes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:54 PM
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Younger and young are two different things. It is not not normal to see the huge age gaps as the media loves to depict.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 09:53 PM
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Women have nothing to prove. Men have lower standards so there isn't much selling to be had. However women have higher standards and men are more of a danger to women. The purpose of men "courting" women is that he has to prove he isn't dangerous and that he is a leader. How would a woman vet for providers and leaders if the man can't/doesn't want to approach her???
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:58 AM
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Unconfident men come across as indecisive and often have body language of being unsure which is a turn off to women and also signals a poor leader and provider. Confidence doesn't mean being bossy or cocky though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:42 AM
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How does it benefit women to give a man a chance that she isn't attracted to?? Sure attraction can grow but it seems like a waste of time when you can just go after men you are immediately attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:36 AM
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The men here are mentally stunted and are still fixated on teenagers so anyone not in undergrad is old to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:29 AM
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What is the point in marrying someone for being young when she will eventually be "old" in a couple of years. As long as a woman LOOKS young what difference does her age matter?? Aside from looks men are obsessed with younger women because they want to feel superior to someone or want someone who is easily impressed(ie. less demanding). Not all men have these weird insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:23 AM
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Harry is 6th in line for the throne so he doesn't really have to have any children for political purposes. You don't even know if he wants a kid. Not all men want children. He might prefer just one if at all. Also Having children in your mid to late 30's happens all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 02:11 AM
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No he couldn't. A man of his stature was expected to marry a woman his age or a couple of years younger. He would look stupid dating a college aged woman. Not to mention rich/high value men still go for women a couple years younger. They aren't cruising college campuses for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:40 AM
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Why blonde??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:35 AM
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But feminist generally are not the ones asking for this. They have found feminist tend to want men the same age and less power imbalances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:11 AM
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this is true but greatly exaggerated since although older men want younger women, very few middle aged men can even get women in their early 30's. Women in their 20s and early thirties that are willing to date middle aged men- save rich/famous men are outliers. So the power of middle aged men is greatly exaggerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 01:08 AM
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It is a revenge fantasy. Many/most men get off on believing the women who reject them will also be rejected sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/18 12:48 AM
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I can't say but most work. The ones that don't work seem to be in finance/wall street.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/18 05:01 AM
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Thinking of tech billionaires in particular many of them have real jobs. Most in STEM.
/r/TheRedPill05/05/18 12:39 AM
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Are you sure about that. Many of them work mostly non profits in fact.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/18 06:25 PM
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He is the common denominator. Other billionaires who also presumably attract gold diggers don't have his problems. You will notice is that other tech billionaires in particular date more regular women and don't have this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:23 AM
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His first wife was with him before paypal. He didn't turn weird and controlling until the money came. Read her article. He was emotionally abusive even telling her to stop talking about their own first son dying. He is nuts. Now his second wife should have stayed away and is a gold digger. But at the end of the day Elon Musk women issues is his own doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:36 PM
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Men do too. If men wouldn't be friends with you then it is safe to say women don't want to date you either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 02:31 AM
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Socially awkward women exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 02:14 AM
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He is well known for being weird and an awful person. Also his wife wrote a long article about their life. He was emotionally abusive. She could be lying but she was detailed. Why is it hard to believe a "genius" billionaire who is odd looking is not a catch??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 02:04 AM
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Sex is work. Especially when it is with someone you are not attracted to.
/r/MensRights14/02/18 11:47 PM
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You date a friend of a friend. Not your actual female friend. Essentially you use your friends to meet other attractive people. Men get "friend-zoned" because they go after female friends rather than acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:34 AM
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Just because a persons malevolence is genuine doesn't make it acceptable, nor should people have to pity them or give them a pass is what I am saying. I also disagree that society makes them that way. Quite the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:00 AM
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Grown men do know better. Being a nice guy can be forgivable when you are a minor, but when you are an adult it is not. Why are men not accountable for their actions and beliefs?? Why baby and make excuses for illogical behavior? As far as your last sentence, I will say that just because no man says that out loud doesn't mean he doesn't believe it at some conscious level. After all basic screen shots do show nice guys saying such things after being rejected. How can you dismiss all those social …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:06 AM
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Nice guys deliberately ignore when women say they want a tall guy or an athletic guy or a masculine guy and they fixate on when they say they want a guy who is caring. They have no one but themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:41 AM
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I don't buy that they were taught this. Most men aren't nice guys after all. This is an ideology that nice guys create for themselves. Everyone knows women want charismatic, rich/high status, and good looking men. It is not rocket science. The ideal man is plastered all over TV, movies, and society. People need to stop blaming society, single mothers, or feminism for this thought process "nice guys" have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 11:45 PM
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Women hate "nice guys" for the same reason celebrities hate fans. No one wants to interact on below a surface level with a groupie/fan. Supplication for a relationship is just vomit inducing. Treat women in a more even handed/indifferent way and you don't even have to be good looking.
/r/MGTOW21/07/17 11:10 AM
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The real problem is that people ARE nice to nice guys. They just don't reciprocate with sex or romance which is not an equal exchange for nice/polite behavior. That is what is funny. Most women are "nice" back to nice guys. But is is not in the form of a kiss, sex, or date.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 08:53 AM
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Women in general don't approach men unless they are a celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 07:39 AM
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Your post is gold. One thing people don't talk about enough is that nice guys reveal how nasty they are by disparaging all men by calling them bad boys or even abusive. Claiming a woman is being abused by her boyfriend when she is not is very gross and is defamation. I really wish women with nice guy friends called them out. Accusing someone of beating or emotionally abusing is serious business. But this lie is something that comes easily with nice guys. They call men thugs or bad boys with no p…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 07:11 AM
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But you weren't saying just you. You were saying "society." It is just unattractive men who live in an echo chamber. Similar to fat women that convince themselves that men don't care about weight. The general culture knows otherwise. The idea that women only care about kindness is something that men push because they know they either don't have the money, charisma, or looks. There is no mystery. There is no "society lying."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/17 02:01 PM
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No. Men/boys are told that money, status and/or swagger compensate for a lack of looks. Hence why ugly CEO's, athletes, and musicians can still seen as attractive. Men/boys and only men and boys -- not "society" convince themselves that supplicating/being nice compensates for a lack of looks. It is something only reinforced among men and maybe mothers who pity their unattractive sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 06:42 PM
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The contract isn't reinforced by society. No one butt nice guys say that doing someone favors leads to sex. I'm sorry people just don't. Look at male sex symbols/icons. James Bond, athletes, musicians, action heroes. They get women by being a leader, accomplished, socially adroit, and being physically attractive. Not because they pester women with unsolicited favors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 12:25 AM
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And women don't identify with beautiful women or models, but they realize that those are the women men want and follow accordingly. The nerd with the hot chick is overstated. It is more common in sitcoms, but most movies have good looking men "getting" the girl. You guys are proving our point. Nerds/ugly/awkward men know they are unattractive they just don't want to put any effort in changing as they think women should love them "for who they are." They only have themselves to blame. It is an en…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:47 PM
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I meant to post to the other poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 07:11 PM
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And men are willing to put up with a bitchy/bimbo who is hot. That doesn't mean men like bitchy/idiotic women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:39 PM
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Believing you entered into a (non existent) contract is the definition of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 05:02 PM
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Nice guys are not told that. They dream that up. Everyone knows that money, height(6 feet plus preferably), a six pack, and charisma/status attracts women. It is basically celebrated in the media and culture. Almost all men deemed attractive in the mainstream are athletes/musicians and other people who obviously fit the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:38 PM
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I disagree. While the nerd/nice guy with the hot girl happens, the vast majority of protagonist male characters in movies/TV shows are charismatic and or are physically attractive. Especially in action movies. Nerd characters are a minority in TV and film.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:34 PM
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Bull shit. All men know women like athletes, tall men, rich men, athletic/fit men, charismatic men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:25 PM
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I agree so much with this post. I noticed that a lot of nice guys feel that improving themselves is being "fake" or arrogant. Like any suggestion of going to the gym or being less passive aggressive is met with such resistance. Even though they expect their girlfriends to be fit (which includes going to the gym or doing some time of exercise) and not being socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/17 04:23 PM
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No, they are entitled. They are also hypocrites. Nice guys will not go out with a woman primarily because she is "nice" unless she is physically attractive or has a somewhat interesting personality. Yet they keep ramming down women's throat that being polite/kind/supplicating is ALL that matters or should be number one for women. This entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/17 01:04 PM
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This is why men who call themselves nice guys are silly. Nice is vague and meaningless. Nice just means pleasant, but women only want to date pleasant men they like.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/17 04:36 AM
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Isn't that true with men too. They want a woman that can cook-- but one that looks like a Victoria secrets model.
/r/TheRedPill05/01/17 03:51 AM
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What does that have to do with my response?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 01:27 AM
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No not at all. And just because a person is single now doesn't mean they need help in dating nor does it mean they aren't happy. I sometimes get crushes even when I am not looking. If someone rejects me it doesn't mean I don't have happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 01:02 AM
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Saying " leave me alone I am not attractive" seems proactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 11:44 PM
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Or maybe they can say stop, and he can respect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:56 PM
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Women don't understand this because that is not how they work. We don't develop feelings for a man just because we enjoy their company. And honestly if a woman is butt ugly, men also aren't going to develop feelings either no matter how long he spends with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:47 PM
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Lots of men have low self esteem. Most men never are approached, so they are just raised to believe they have to beg and coerce women for dates/sex. Also some men get off on chasing women. Hence why some men hate "easy" women or women who approach them. It seems masculine to them. Although such scenarios would make men's lives easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 08:36 PM
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I am not talking about those situations. I am talking about the men that aren't even hurt, but feel like their time was wasted on the friendship. Those are two different attitudes.
/r/MensRights28/12/16 07:29 AM
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They are passive aggressive abusers. It is psychologically damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:50 PM
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Because it is impossible. When someone asks you how can you date better, it means in relation to other women. If I don't find a man attractive, I still know other women can. So when a man asks that question I am going to give him a general answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:39 PM
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That is because you are already IN a romantic relationship. But if you have a friendship, your favors can't be exchanged with a kiss/sex/holding hands/snuggling.
/r/MensRights26/12/16 01:52 AM
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How so?? No one is obligated to be your friend, but someone walking away because you won't be their lover is weird and creepy. But honestly women who have friends like this shouldn't care as it is really a good riddance situation.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 07:59 PM
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You are not a terrible person if you develop feelings for your friend-- but you aren't a friend. A friend is a platonic relationship.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 07:25 PM
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The proper response to a mans niceness is for a woman to be nice to him--- not to date him. That is why people hate nice guys. Dating and having sex with someone is not equivalent to doing favors or listening to a womans problems. It is simply not an equal exchange.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 07:19 PM
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Nice guys aren't telling women anything. That is the problem. They just think women should know they want a relationship because they helped her with random favors.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 07:02 PM
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Men aren't "nice" to ugly women. So men who are nice to women do have an agenda.
/r/MensRights25/12/16 06:46 PM
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The whole concept of nice guy comes from men complaining that their favors and kindness hasn't materialized to romance. They claim they were used even if the women is kind with them, because to them the only reciprocation would becoming their girlfriend. It is not "fake" to flirt. I honestly can't sympathize with you or men that think this. This whole attitude is mind boggling. The point of flirting is to build tension. Lazy men would rather just sit back and hope simply being friends or acquain…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 02:23 PM
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Playing games would be mind games and playing hard to get. Flirting isn't "fake". It is about teasing, complimenting, and flattering. Learn how to seduce women through flirting is not "fake." Wanting a woman to fall in love with you because you opened doors, listened to them vent, or drive them to the airport is retarded. Don't blame women or the media if you don't know you have to build tension to get women interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 03:53 AM
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I don't see how flirting is being fake or "playing games." It is about being playful and building sexual tension. And women as a collective never said being good looking doesn't matter. I do know some women who don't care, but anyone who watches a romantic comedy and other things directed towards women knows that the leading man is always tall and good looking. Also there is a hypocrisy among men in terms of women changing their preferences as they get older. Many men when young will date stupid…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/16 01:46 AM
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But most women are realistic. It is not like the average women is looking for a millionaire or the most interesting man in the world. Nice guys are men who think all they have to do is supplicate and be polite in order for a woman to find them attractive. Honestly that isn't even enough in order to create friendship, so why do they think this will work for a romantic relationship? They ignore compatibility and being physically attractive. Those aren't high or unrealistic expectations. They refus…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 02:52 PM
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women should lower their standards because men have none?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 04:45 AM
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Good hearted people generally don't count the good things they do to throw it in their object of affections face when he/she rejects them. That is a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:12 PM
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Nice guys are really bitter and passive aggressive. They call men they don't know "jerks" and "assholes" just because he has a girl friend(god forbid she is good looking). They seem to divide all men into jerk vs nice guy although most men are neither. They seem quite judgmental. But the funny thing is they say this while stressing that they are nice guys. This is why people are uneasy with them. They are seemingly nice but there is something off about them. They supplicate for approval, and whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 07:02 PM
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How is hiding your erection oppression?? Should men just walk around with their pants down and erections out? WTF??
/r/TheRedPill06/12/16 05:36 PM
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No women find men they aren't attracted to as irrelevant. They are indifferent to most men. I don't see how they makes them replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 05:21 PM
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No. Good looking men are more laid back, but they aren't nice guys. Nice guy means supplicating for attention, which is passive aggressive. Nice guys tend to be self pitying which gives themselves a chip on the shoulder as they think their supplicating hasn't paid dividends. If you are good looking people come to you. You don't come to them. So good looking men or simply men that are socially intelligent just have a good aura. They don't beg for attention or peoples time.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 04:40 PM
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No. Women are attracted to men who are indifferent to them. That is not being an "asshole." Supplicating is offensive and clingy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:27 PM
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Offer means being interesting and engaging. It means making her aroused. Simply not being combative or drama filled doesn't make you a good mate. It is as though men think no matter how old, ugly, or boring they are women should like them BECAUSE they are nice. What is nice but just a regular decent person who is respectful?? It is a major expectation for all friends and family. Not a selling point. As far as women not offering something-- women aren't complaining about being a nice girl. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:24 PM
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No. They are passive aggressive abusers. I had a parent that was like this. They wouldn't beat me, but they would cut you down through indirect abusive language and actions. It is more dangerous than regular verbal and physical violence because it is harder to identify. But most people can feel the unease. Most men that call themselves "nice" are actually just passive aggressive. My child hood has scared me off those type of people regardless of type of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:18 PM
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It is misogynistic to not act like a servant to women (well only the hot ones right)?? This is the problem with men. Their definitions of everything is out of wack. Respecting women is treating them like any other person. You lose respect when you supplicate and act like she is a master.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:02 PM
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Yes, men want women to wait on them hand and foot and kiss their ass. Women are a bit more respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 04:00 PM
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Because men who aren't assertive and are passive aggressive call themselves "nice guys." If men stopped calling themselves nice guys when in fact they are just blank canvases that don't put any effort in approaching women directly, this phenomenon wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:59 PM
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Well sexist men tend to like having a slave as a girlfriend/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 03:52 PM
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OP, what is your definition or example of an "asshole" or someone who takes women "for granted." I noticed nice guys have a completely different take.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 03:43 PM
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Yes because the absence of supplication means abuse.
/r/MGTOW06/12/16 03:22 PM
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Believing that white women are at a special risk of scary brutish black men is delusional. I bet you and white men that think like that watch "cuckold" porn. It is all sexual fantasy.
/r/MGTOW24/11/16 12:16 AM
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They rape mostly black women. So white mens fear and delusion of black men wanting to rape "their" women is a fantasy and has little to do with race riots or racial discord.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 10:01 PM
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You are an idiot. Most interracial rape is done by black men on white women-- but most raped white women are raped by white men. Do you understand the difference.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 09:36 PM
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What stats?? Most raped white women are raped by white men. Most black men that rape will and do rape black women. It is creepy white men that seem to have a sexual fantasy of being "cuckhold" and therefore project this idea of black men going on raping rampages on white women.
/r/MGTOW23/11/16 05:32 AM
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Why is allegedly is quotes. Most of the rape accusations were spurious and mostly just racist white men wanting to riot against black men anyways. NO doubt real rape happened, but most of the riots started because of boiling tension that preceded the convenient rape accusation.
/r/MGTOW21/11/16 11:50 PM
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Yes. Men seem to have a lower threshold for being fuckable. This is why men who befriend women in hopes of them changing their feelings are wasting their time. If a woman doesn't find you attractive it is not going to really change just because time has gone by. There would have to be a substantial change in your personality, wealth, or body.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 02:48 PM
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Wanting nice guys has nothing to do with wanting chivalry.
/r/MGTOW05/10/16 04:06 AM
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Most women want muscular men. Me personally no, but most women do. Just look at famous men that women find attractive. As far as women liking poets and singers-- women generally don't want broke singers or poets. They want the men who are breaking album sales. Obviously not all women are alike, but generally women want muscular/fit men that make lots of money and are charismatic. Why do you think people hate/are annoyed by sycophants/brown nosers/teacher pets??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 10:39 PM
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Personality isn't a painstaking evaluation though- and it is disturbing you think that isn't a baseline for getting with someone. I agree the others are unfair as many women don't have ambition, status, or humor yet want it in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 10:07 PM
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But no one says JUST be nice. If men and boys are too slow to understand this I just don't know what to say. Men and boys need to stop blaming women/Hollywood/elders for things like this. For example we all know women like muscular guys but nice guys rarely talk about how they are trying to work on their body at the gym by lifting weights. Nice guys ignore all other characteristics and focus just on being "nice" and getting along with a woman. It doesn't make sense. Matter of fact they tend to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:43 PM
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Of course. But not being "nice" doesn't mean being an asshole. Most men are in the middle. The absence of niceness doesn't mean the presence of being a jerk or an "asshole." Being nice is unremarkable and irrelevant although men want it to be the only characteristic a woman chooses a man on because it is so easy to do and be. Which in turn would obligate women to find all men attractive. After all, most men are nice to attractive women. So clearly that can't really be a factor in how an attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 09:01 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 08:14 PM
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True. Nice guys definition of asshole just means a man that doesn't put women on a pedestal or dote on them. So called jerks just are more indifferent to women, which is attractive to women. Treating women as angels is considered to be "creepy" and patronizing. You can be kind without being a brown noser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 07:09 PM
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You are hamstering. Young women generally don't go after older men the same reason why men of all ages don't want older women. They are physically less attractive. Older men tend to bald, grey hair, have wrinkly skin, and are less likely to have a six pack. Even if they stay fit they will always look less sexy than a 25 year old man. Older men are also less impulsive so it means they don't have that bad boy edge that women seem to like. Aside from money and social status, most women only want me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 06:48 PM
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No, women go up in terms of income and career (which isn't even difficult since men make more than women on average). But for everything else I think women go within their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:40 PM
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Nice guys are complemented for being good listeners all the time by women. What the OP really means is nice guys and men aren't flirted with by women. If you are not attractive I don't see why anyone is obligated to flirt with you. And men will take innocent flirting as a sexual come on so I don't know why any woman would do so unless she seriously wants a relationship or sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:21 PM
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Everyone bitches about past lovers. Men also complain about past girlfriends although less publicly. Yet the narrative that men only choose the wrong girl is less prevalent. Nice guys are just jealous of men that get girlfriends and have to create a whole narrative that they are abusive or "jerks."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/16 02:04 PM
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I disagree with point 8. Physically attractiveness matters a lot. And there have been studies that have shown people are less scared of attractive people. A woman is going to be more relax at a good looking man approaching her than an ugly one regardless of how "confident" he is. But men shouldn't dwell on physical attractiveness as there isn't much you can do about that aside from grooming and lifting weights.
/r/seduction04/10/16 01:38 PM
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Those nice people are nice to men and ugly women. Nice guys are only nice to women they want to date.
/r/seduction04/10/16 01:34 PM
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You finally get it. Doing unsolicited favors and never just saying "I want you" is so passive aggressive and eye roll worthy. Better to be with an "asshole" who just is upfront and flirts. I think a lot of these nice guys confuse when women say they don't want a forward man. Saying you got a "nice ass or tits " is different than NEVER complimenting women physically.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 04:57 PM
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It is emotionally draining to be around someone who is acting servile to you. Women aren't against men that might do a favor here and there or will compliment them here or there. But when it is excessive, it comes across as pushy. Like your mother cleaning up your house and in all your business even when you tell them to stop int he most polite way in order to not hurt their feelings. Also it shows signs of a potential stalker. Imagine dating a girl and she is talking about marriage and children…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/16 04:48 PM
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I never said it was worse. What I am saying is that women get different types of intimidation. And they get it for saying different types of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 06:09 PM
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Men get death threats, but rarely do they get rape threats.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 11:06 AM
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Men don't get rape threats. Stop it. Rape threats tend to only happen once it is revealed the person behind the screen is female. Men don't generally say they are going to rape another man as it would seem gay--- and most straight men don't want that. Also men are getting attacked by other men-- not women(who can do less damage).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 01:38 AM
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Given many women don't even get married and therefore have to work or go to school, I think it is retarded that you think women don't have goals or seek to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 01:37 AM
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But women don't want to get laid. They want relationships with a few men. I think it is sad and funny that all of mens concept of an easy life is the ability to sleep with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 01:28 AM
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These men really think being interrupted all day by ugly men, stalkerish men, men old enough to be your grandfather is a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 01:26 AM
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Because men get older, fatter, uglier and lose their hair. So do women, but most people are only concerned about their needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/16 12:59 AM
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Men don't like needy girls either. It is a media trope of the psycho girl who is needy and tries to spend all her time with her boyfriend when the boyfriend just wants to hang out with his buddies. It is even creepy when this is done before one becomes boyfriend and girlfriend. Syncophants are annoying. You can be kind without being needy.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/16 02:38 AM
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The point is 28 year old women would be okay with dating/having sex with Clooney and Tom Cruise in spite of being in their 50s. You just proved my point that in terms of looks men don't have to all look alike. They can be old and still be considered attractive. So you lied when you said men aren't selective. You exclude 50 year old women-- even if they are pretty. Men don't notice their selective nature or the women they ignore. They don't count, yet they want the world to pay for the women that…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 06:17 PM
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Google good looking women and Google good looking men. There is more variety in skin color, facial features, age, and body shape among those considered to be good looking men. Not so with good looking women. Women generally don't want casual sex, so how are we "lucky" by being coerced/pressured into something that we don't want. And given women find a smaller percentage of men attractive in general, how are women privileged by having men hit on us?? It would be like saying a man is lucky because…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 05:44 PM
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Dealing with vast romantic/sexual rejections is part of being a straight male. If you don't like it, be gay. Just like women have to deal with men pushing themselves/sexualizing us 24/7(even lesbians, which is even worse for them). Look at it this way. Being rejected by women is not a big deal since it is just because women's sexuality is more selective. Whereas being rejected/never approached as a woman is a bigger deal, since men generally have lower standards. Most anger and frustration by me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 05:11 PM
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Women don't find most men attractive, but that doesn't mean they are not "worthy" of sex. They just need to find women that find them attractive (they are out there). Only 5% (made up number) of women will respond positively to an individual man. It is up to men to just approach and hit on several women to increase their chances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 04:56 PM
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Weedy means a person with a slim build. I don't like guys with a lot of muscle. Even though I can spot a conventionally attractive guy with a lot of muscles. Women are more selective, but not because we are holding out, but because we are more repulsed by certain things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/16 01:28 AM
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Just like the nerdy guys will do if the hot women shows interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:54 PM
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The onus is on the complainer to approach their object of affection. Since men generally are the ones looking and complaining about not getting sex, they need to approach. I agree however that women should approach. But the issue is most men are not considered attractive to women, so why should they approach men they aren't attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:37 PM
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I find that men are attracted to a wider set of "conventionally attractive" women, than women are attracted to "conventionally attractive" men. What I mean is if a woman likes weedy types (like me), she will only find weedy types that are conventionally attractive. She will bypass gym-rats even if he is conventionally attractive. For example, I can't find myself attracted to male models even though I know they are "conventionally attractive." Neither can I find men like Dwayne "the rock" Johnson…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 08:12 PM
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Women have better support networks to vent. Lots of men don't have crying sessions or get their friends to talk it out. These leads to a lot of bottling up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:45 PM
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Men are bigger than women and can easily beat and kill a woman. That is why women don't know how to react towards men's frustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:33 PM
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Are you a man? Because what you are saying is so far off the mark. Women don't operate like this. Maybe men do, but women don't find most men attractive even if they are conventionally attractive and have a good personality. It has nothing to do with being on the lookout for an upgrade. We don't get wet or fall in love with a man just because we enjoy his company and he isn't a troll. Your post really demonstrates how men and women are different. I learned so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:31 PM
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People villanize nice guys, but I don't see how people villanize single dads. Single dads normally don't have custody unless he was widowed. So there is nothing to praise, whereas most single moms are raising the children alone which is difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/16 07:20 PM
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Women mock nice guys because they are overbearing and in many cases transparent in their niceness. Being nice is a cherry on top of a sundae, but it is not the sundae. Women do want nice guys, but only if it comes with a physically attractive and masculine and interesting package.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 06:55 PM
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No, because being thin doesn't mean you have nice big boobs, shapely legs, and a pretty face. If being thin is all it takes for you to consider someone conventionally attractive, you have low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:57 AM
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But most women don't identity as feminist. Many women run away from that identification. Most women want to be thin and know that is what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:56 AM
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Men in this very thread said men and women don't have empathy for other men. These men are admitting that gender roles and sex determines who they are nice to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:45 AM
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To be honest, it is not even about being clueless. It is about not caring and projecting their wishful thinking. Like women might be upset that most men don't like fat women, but we understand that they don't. A women could point blank say I like tall men with broad shoulders, and a man will interrupt her and say women really care about personality. I was watching a youtube news channel and this very thing happened. You had a bunch of men-- all of whom were middle aged(one was fat) and quite ugl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:33 AM
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Maybe men have lower standards for attractiveness. Women find a smaller percentage of men physically attractive. As a women, I am always surprised at who gay men find "hot." You are right that there are more than just ugly and attractive people. I would say there are attractive men/women, average men/women, and ugly men/women. I think you will be happier if you realize getting as many women in bed is not that important. Stop using women as a mark of your self esteem as a human being. Women value…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 04:16 AM
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Aren't there two types of women. Ugly women and hot women?? Simply being thin doesn't mean you have a handsome face. Being thin is such a low bar for attractiveness to begin with. Most people in the 1950s were thin. Back then obesity was rare. But we wouldn't say most people back then were physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:47 AM
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Why shouldn't workers have labor rights?? You are really scaring me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:31 AM
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You definition of not caring about low value people means women not having sex with said person. That is insane. Women are more likely to be friends with men we aren't attracted to. Many men admit they would only be friends with a woman if there is an opportunity for romance and or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:30 AM
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That is a lie. Men only care about men. Men by your own admission only care about women if they provide sex and romantic services. Men are more likely to scoff at being solely friends with a women. Cause they think it is useless. Why be a friend with a women after all. Yuck. Women only exist for romance and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:28 AM
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And there is the issue. Rejected men think all men who get laid are jerks. They never have any proof. Just the fact that they get lots of women us enough. And judging by the casual sexism and violent undercurrent in comments by so called nice guys, these men are just as abusive as the men that get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:15 AM
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I don't understand. Men also want hot women. Men will choose a hot women with an annoying personality over an ugly and fat women with a great personality. The problem is men want women to choose men simply for being nice. Nice doesn't even really tell you much about that persons personality. Nice can range from being polite to being considerate. But no one is attracted to someone just for those qualities. Being funny, sexy, smart are more important to most people. I wouldn't even be friends with…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 03:13 AM
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