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It's simple, she's not attracted to you as a mate. But that shouldn't make you feel bad about yourself in any way. I'm sure there are other women that would be attracted to you if she said you were attractive. Just go on more dates. Also kool & kind personality is a GREAT quality to have in a partner, but not always something that gets a woman excited on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:31 AM
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Thanks for sharing this - interesting to see these stats. It's hard to get a true sense without seeing the actual profiles but the women are unsurprisingly more selective. What if all the unsuccessful men stopped using the app so it was only the top 5% on tinder. Would women use it even more? Or less?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:02 AM
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Simply no. Get off reddit, go outside, and talk to some real humans please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:02 AM
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Pretty much. But let's stop using 'nice' because that's such a bland term. "That's nice" is the last compliment anyone wants to hear. So no, women do not want nice guys. Nice guys are boring and should be reserved for women who have given up on dating. 'Oh I just want a nice guy' That's what a woman says after a bad date. Women want kind, thoughtful, caring men that won't go on talking about how kind, thoughtful, and caring they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:54 AM
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Just speaking from personal experience, I'm in decent shape but I've always felt I could be stronger and fitter looking. Whenever I've mentioned to someone I'm dating that I want to train more to, they've always said "Why? You're already strong. Please don't get too muscly." I think men are way too hard on themselves. Women really don't care beyond a decently fit body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:42 AM
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Look, you're missing the main point. I'm saying you don't have to exercise at a gym for more than 1hr a week for women to find you physically attractive. You can build enough muscle in that 1hr for the majority of women to think you are fit and sexy. For long-term health, you should lead an active life-style. You won't be thinking about the minutes exercised if you do this. Weight is mostly about diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:27 AM
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It totally depends on the type of workout you do. If you're doing low-rep strength training or calisthenics, it's totally enough. Go hard for 20 min. with rest days and watch your diet. You'll get the rest of the exercise through leading an active lifestyle. All the necessary cardio can through normal activities like commuting by bike, hiking on weekends, having an active hobby/sport etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:16 AM
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Fit means active body, in shape, able to do sports, relatively small gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:55 AM
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What are you talking about. I just looked up the mayo clinic recommendation: "75 minutes of vigorous aerobic activity a week"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 01:52 AM
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You should not be eating out every meal, drinking more than 6 beers a week, snacking on chips, coke, cookies, and other sugary foods every day. Don't eat a bunch of empty calories. Get normal food that you cook at home, vegetables, protein, healthy fats, and whole grain carbs. You can make cheap delicious meals like this. Aside from that, it really doesn't take more than about 20 min exercise 3 days a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:52 PM
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I guess it depends what the exercise is. Just jogging around the block for an hour won't necessarily cut it. You need to work up a sweat. Do something strenuous. And of course have the proper diet. If you don't have an physical impairment and are less than 50yo, that should do the trick for the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:13 PM
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Every woman I know prefers fit/active but not ridiculously muscular guys. That means exercising for 1hr a week and eating a normal diet. Pizza, beer, chips are all fine in moderation. They also are happy with a guy that has some financial sense and is planning for the future. More pay is great but anything over a $100k is a perk and not a dealmaker. I don't know where you're getting these ridiculous standards from. I'm assuming other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:28 AM
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of course you would. It's a dumb trope that assumes all sorts of things about a woman, and man that would date that woman. The only time it would be acceptable is if the woman said it about herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:24 PM
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So if rich, famous, influential, attractive, beautiful wife and kids, with many women fans around the world doesn't make you automatically an alpha (or chad). What the hell is an alpha then? A mindset? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 10:16 PM
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The apps will change but OLD will become less random and safer. Apps will let women report problem men and reputation will become more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 07:30 PM
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So the QB talking about his glory days is the male equivalent of alpha widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:16 PM
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lol, great description. Sex sounds great but not really fun long-term. Reminds me of a girl I dated back in the day. A 23 yo dirty blonde with wavy hair, green eyes and a little gap in her front teeth. Really cute. About 5'3", on the slimmer side but had enormous boobs. Guys would stare every time we went out. We had a full height window by the bed that overlooked the ocean and everyday we'd lie there naked and fuck while watching the sunset. It was the kind of sex that you start missing while y…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:08 PM
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true, a lot of great sex is context and you can have great and lousy sex with the same person. It's probably more about the handful of amazing sex where everything was perfect that we recall years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 05:48 PM
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I see a lot of comments that I'd consider misogynistic here on PPD, but rarely anything that's misandrist. I'm not even sure I'd know how to classify anything as misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:37 AM
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I'm not familiar with the specifics of these celebrities, but wouldn't Will Smith also be considered an alpha man? If so, she's not an alpha widow is she? People miss their exs for all sorts of reasons. Not how that relates to this term alpha widow.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 08:22 AM
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That doesn't seem like a very common attitude from my experience. It seems like woman will more often lament that they used to be young and beautiful and now they're not, but seem to settle in to their new identity quite comfortably. So does the same thing happen with a college QB that gets fat with dead-end job?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:33 AM
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Never heard this term before. What about for men that have been with a really hot woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 06:19 AM
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I remember seeing a poll of about 100 women in a Japanese magazine from the 90s and most women had between 1-10 partners, except 1 had over 300.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:33 AM
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So 8 people in 5 years. How much of the 5 years were you in an exclusive relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 03:19 AM
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actually that average was including relationships. If someone's single the whole time by choice, it's probably much higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:33 AM
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There's a sentiment from some guys that women are too promiscuous. But how many partners are we talking here? My sense is that many women might go through a wild phase and hook up with a bunch of guys, but it usually peters out anywhere between a couple of months to a couple of years. Maybe something like 10 to 20 guys during this period. But then it might go way down to 1 or 2 a year. So the average is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:32 AM
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There are some posts on PPD where the number of partners being debated and the numbers seem unrealistic. Probably worth bumping it up by a couple times if we're talking about younger city folk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:23 AM
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So split the difference, say 1 per month. That's 12 a year. If you're single for about 4 years between 18 and 40, you'll be around 50 partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:08 AM
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So what would you say is average partners per year during dating? men and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:04 AM
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This is a summary for the majority of men and women dating in cities. If someone has a successful relationship that lasts 5 years then the average goes down. But then they usually make up for it by going a little wild when they become single again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 02:00 AM
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So that less than 10 number is low. Most people that are normally dating have higher numbers of partners then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:58 AM
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Yeah, I shouldn't say 50 is low. But it's also not high. Let's assume a one year exclusive relationship, followed by a few months of not dating, then a couple of hookups (~2) and a few very short relationships (3 to 4) before meeting someone you want to date seriously. Let's assume 2 to 3 years for this pattern. That's about 2.8 relationships a year. We're still talking over 50 partners by your 40s, assuming you're never married.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:48 AM
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Or there are a lot of people with 1 partner that bring down the average?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:35 AM
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Yeah, do you think that's real? It just seems far too low for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:34 AM
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Is it just me that thinks having 50 sexual partners by your 40's is normal? Let's assume 1 sexual partner every 3 months on average. And assuming 20 years. That's already 80. I'm sure there are people with fewer but many with more than that. Where am I going wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:28 AM
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We're in the growing pains period with a lot of controversy. But I think things will calm down and more straight people will start to identify as mostly straight and date trans people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 01:20 AM
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I imagine it would be a mixed reaction and take some getting used to. And just as any major social change that happened overnight, there would be strong reactions across the board. But on the whole, I think woman would be happier once the dust settled. It would take sexual pressure off and the constant compliments would be replaced by real interactions. I think women would be less incentivized to performance, eg less makeup and other overt sexual displays.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 10:15 PM
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No, but I also don't want to become a boxer and get my face bashed in. I don't want to become a barista and wake up early. I don't want to do most jobs because there's some form of sacrifice. How about this: let's advocate for a basic income and make prostitution legal. Only those that would enjoy the monetary benefits would participate, and it wouldn't be to survive. As it currently stands, I don't see why prostitution is any worse than a handful of other perfectly legal jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:35 PM
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'many people' does not objective make.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 07:22 AM
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But there is no ideal face. Take all the proportions and ratios you want, you're not going to find some formula of the most beautiful face. Looking at different beauty standards across cultures, race, and history will show you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 06:08 AM
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No, that's not what objective means. Many people can have similar subjective views that create trends. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 04:04 AM
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Really? What is objective about ranking then?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 03:14 AM
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Weight, within reason, sure. But job, why not? The person's job says a lot more about the life you'll lead together, their interests, ambitions, etc. It's what we spend a third of the day doing usually. Being with a doctor will be dramatically different than being with a fisherman, all other things being equal. So I don't think that's superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:38 AM
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Thia is a generalization but the higher the man's wealth, the less the amount of money his wife makes matters. Instead, they look for things like a high-class woman of culture with a great family name. These connections will help him achieve even more success. Don't discount how important these things are, especially at the highest levels of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:33 AM
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No, photofeeler is based on surveys from other users, all real people, go look at the site, you can take the survey yourself. They used to have a blog where they tested a bunch of photos from the same guy showing the spread. It was a 5 point spread out of a scale of 10. The entire point of the site is that attractiveness is subjective. In terms of order of value, I don't think it matters, IRL or online profiles. They won't be the same across a 100 people. Now, I'm not saying it's random, of cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 12:19 AM
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No, you're wrong. Look at photofeeler or any one these attractive ranking websites. The same person can be a 9 in one photo and a 4 in another depending on lighting, haircut, setting, outfit. Ask a 100 people to rank 10 people in order of value (money, looks, status) I'll guarantee you they won't all be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:56 PM
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Your use of objective is wrong. making more money=objective physically attractive=totally subjective and context dependant higher status=only objective within clear hierarchies, which society is not
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 11:37 PM
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Oh yeah? So where can I find this objective ranking of all people? Do you know what number you are on this ranking?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:29 PM
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This is all so subjective though! Some person's 1 is another person's 10. We don't pair up to find an equal based on some form of objective ranking. We look for people that make our life better and eventually can't imagine living without. The ideal situation is one where both people feel like they got a catch. On the other hand, if both people feel they could have done better, they're not a good match.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 08:21 PM
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Everyone has different reasons for matching, but the best real life analog for 'matching' would be like being out at a bar and two people notice each other and make eye contact. You're now invited to talk to one another. And that's it! There's no guarantee that you'll actually like each other or want to have a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:40 PM
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Sure, that's why I wrote boring and unattractive. And regarding ending things, everyone has the right to end a relationship, no matter what the reason. However, some reasons are more justifiable than others. If a woman wasn't into someone because of their height alone, it's understandable that people would consider her superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 07:33 PM
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chemistry=attraction. It's just an nice way of saying they find you boring and unattractive. But it also includes the way the guy makes her feel. I don't see why it would be odd that someone would find no chemistry on a first date, or the first 10 min. She might even think he's objectively attractive but not fun to talk to and be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/21 05:58 PM
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I'm thinking most woman would prefer a reliable finance sense and a decent salary over reckless with money and rich, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 11:04 PM
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It wouldn't be disastrous because it rarely happens. This is a more likely scenario: Top 10% of men date multiple women, 5 seems like too much so let's say 3 or so serious relationships. Next 60% of men date more or less 1 woman at a time. Many of the women dating a top 10% man will want more and be willing to date multiple men, including these average men. Bottom 30% of men will need to go above and beyond to keep a woman. They'll either offer more than just commitment or be alone and just pay …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:48 PM
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But if he's autistic, I'm assuming he has trouble connecting certain ideas. Did you try to work around his autism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:10 PM
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I wouldn't frame your examples as mind games. They are perfectly reasonable ways to meet your needs. Consider a relationship as an agreement to share aspects of life together. It starts with a date, a simple conversation. Over time we choose to share more of those aspects: home life, schedule, dreams, social circle. If some aspect of the relationship isn't working, you can keep discussing it until you agree on how you share it, or you can choose to be independent. If the other aspects still work…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 06:07 PM
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Some women do have unrealistic standards, but they are the ones that suffer, leading a life of constant disappointment. They are the minority though. If it was common, they wouldn't be making tv shows about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:56 PM
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Weaker women are left out of plenty of things because strength is a necessity. Many extreme sports and solo travel aren't accessible to women because of their vulnerability. And what are all these aspects of life that genetically inferior men are left out of? Don't they have the same freedoms as anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:51 PM
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That should be an option, if they want. But that's not what happens, monogamy/exclusivity is the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:43 PM
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there's a lower limit though. Men have to be good enough to have a net benefit on a woman's life or it's not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 05:41 PM
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Of course
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 07:29 AM
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How big is your social circle? If you're a small group of guys and only hang around each other, it really doesn't matter how great you are as guys, you're not going to be meeting women unless you go out and try something else. Do you have friends who are women that think you're great and would be glad to introduce you to their girlfriends? They can be relatives or neighborhood acquaintances. To this end, OLD is a great tool because you're going to get exposed to new groups that you wouldn't othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:59 AM
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Were past men all that great really? I think women's standards have increased because they don't need to rely on men for their livelihood. But that's for the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:43 AM
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So doesn't that make it a reasonable request? That the guy you date makes at least 6 figures?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:31 AM
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My initial comment was to niceguynumber4 saying that men will contribute less if they don't have to raise a family, and that was the reason for traditional nuclear families with dad as breadwinner being better for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:27 AM
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I agree with you that the man not being attractive does not make the relationship miserable. From my experience, woman are very open about how their husbands physically look if they are kind, taking care of the family and emotionally connected to them. Those studies of the nuclear families don't account for the number of failed marriages. If we consider half of marriages ending in divorce then the traditional marriage has a bad record.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:21 AM
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But we've had communities of 20k people for a long time. And why would the dynamics be different for a smaller village of a few hundred people? Aren't you still competing against the same number of men because there are more woman to date? So roughly 4 to 5 other men? Regarding the quality, assuming a random distribution, there would be the same proportion of high-quality men in the small community as there would be in the online world. Even when the image based social media is altered to make p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 04:07 AM
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so it's a problem with our economic system and it's distribution, not that men have less motivation to work if they aren't supporting a family. Shouldn't men be incentivized to contribute to society based on their own personal desires, and also be able to choose to work less, not be forced to work because they have a family to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:38 AM
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but aren't we taking about what the man wants? do men want young women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:34 AM
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Everyone wants to be with someone better, that's just human nature. But the tricky part is, no one knows what that is. One person's judgement of better is different from another. They say a blessed marriage is where both people felt like they married up. Shouldn't we aspire to have relationships where both people feel lucky?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 03:32 AM
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That's a good explanation. In that case, it's pretty clear that lower-value men need to do better. A woman of their same attractiveness match won't want to settle down with a disgruntled and resentful man no matter what the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:57 AM
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But isn't the solution here to decrease costs and increase wages, irrespective of gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:35 AM
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So if all the men in the world were suddenly handsome, fit, kind, generous, good-humored, and wealthy, do you think women would still only date the top 20% of these men? You don't think they would be happy to date any one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:33 AM
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Well, I'm not sure that everyone deserves a partner, or that one-to-one pairing is the best. When we look back to times where marriage was required for survival, we see women required to stay in abusive relationships, we see frustrated men and women tolerating one another. Don't you think a world where you can leave an unhappy marriage or not get into one, unless it made your life better, is a better world?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:29 AM
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So in your previous comment that men cheat on their wife with uglier women, what percentage of the men in an older generation would cheat on their wives? From the stories I've heard, cheating on their wives seemed pretty common.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:25 AM
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Yeah, I agree that marriage vows shouldn't be taken lightly. We should change the vows to reflect our modern times, including divorce rates. And every marriage should have some form of prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:22 AM
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I thought the idea is young is better. If early 20's is the best, wouldn't 27 be relatively less. Sure an attractive woman can still get a man, but doesn't she have fewer men that would be interested in dating her?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:20 AM
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Well if that's how they feel then more power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:14 AM
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So your ideal would be something like 5% you're willing to date about 40% of women? That doesn't seem too impossible. It also seems to be pretty similar rates to what women ideals seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:11 AM
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So if these women are using it as a weapon because they know men are insecure, do they really care, or are they just trying to hurt the man? One solution would be to not be insecure about it. And don't woman get shamed for all sorts of things relative to their pussies, from camel toe, to the size of their clit, to hair, smell, labia size. So many more things. In reality most men don't really care about all these details. Probably just the same as women not caring too much about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:09 AM
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Sounds about right. Seems like men that are having issues dating should find more things to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 01:04 AM
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For the most part, that seems like a logical arrangement. Sex is a high-risk activity for women, if they're going to just hook-up, they should do it with men that are substantially more attractive. That's tempered by the availability of the really attractive men who have no time for them. Kind and attractive men will be the ideal hookup partner. Low-value men won't be able to just have sex. They'll need to offer more to be worth a woman's time and attention. They could do other acts of service t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:42 AM
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I agree with you that men shouldn't be judged by the size of their dick. But the big dick energy thing seems to be driven by men trying to out alpha one another. Also, isn't it more of a symbol/metaphor? Men don't display their dicks openly so no one actually knows what size each has.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/21 12:01 AM
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So would 10% of women be a ballpark? Would you consider yourself to be pretty selective in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:53 PM
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So they are meeting a guy that makes them happy every few months. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:51 PM
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Both men and women don't like being dumped. But I'd also add that leaving someone for looks alone is a superficial, whichever way it goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:50 PM
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so what's your position exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:20 PM
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But we're talking about dating, where one group wants to pair up with another through cooperation. It's not some sort of competition for dominance where women want to dominate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:18 PM
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Don't see why it's narcissism to aim for something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:14 PM
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Is this necessarily bad? If this really were the case and the highest value men are sharing a number of women, but the women are also able to earn a living and are free to leave the situation with minimal consequence, and the men were able to increase their value through effort, wouldn't this be a perfectly acceptable arrangement with maximum freedom for all parties?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:13 PM
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But you wouldn't want to date the woman with these unmanageable demands and condescending attitude anyways, right? So assuming they're out of the equation, what percentage of woman do you think qualify to meet your standards these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:05 PM
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Really? I don't see many body shaming posts directed at men. If there are, who is creating this? Are woman creating body shaming posts directed at men?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:02 PM
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But won't these women with unrealistic standards realize that they aren't meeting the guy they want and change their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 11:00 PM
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Except that it's usually the women that want commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:54 PM
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It's not that hypergamy is on the increase it's that the consequences for I've heard of me have been removed, at least perceivably so, in the short term, for the women that practice it. What were the consequences of hypergamy in the past? I don't believe there has been any woman that has reached the end of her life and thought to herself "wow, I really just wish I had more random dick..." Do men reach the end of their life and wish they had more random pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:51 PM
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So don't you think the savvy women would stop this trend, if it's not serving them anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:45 PM
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I don't think that worry is lost on most young women. If anything, they probably worry about this too much. We should collectively be telling our young that they don't have to settle into a situation that makes them miserable. That being "alone" is still filled with joy. That there are alternatives to a traditional marriage, that include friendship, companionship, dating. That we can have alternative models to raise kids aside from the nuclear family.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:43 PM
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But in your scenario, why does this dynamic suddenly get worse when we're able to potentially connect with millions of people online? There are only so many people a person can hookup with during a given period, let's say for the vast majority of people (excluding outliers), that's somewhere between 1 and 5 for a month. Why don't these same tendencies occur in previous smaller communities where the top 10 men end up with the top 50 women? What dynamics actually change when you scale up? And is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:40 PM
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So where does this eventually lead? Can you paint me a picture in 2050?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:25 PM
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Hmmm, I wonder what the commonality between those two relationships are...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:22 PM
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See my comment above. This dynamic is self-correcting.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:20 PM
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Sorry, I don't get your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:19 PM
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Let me ask you, is cheating on your spouse considered breaking your wedding vows? If so, should a wife divorce a husband who cheats on them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:17 PM
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First, I don't think it's women leaving men for more attractive alternatives. It's definitely the men leaving. Second, divorce is costly so a woman would have to leave a man for a substantially richer man to make any sense. This substantially richer man would clearly have other options, so the wife would have to worry about the richer man following through. It's not a decision that can be made lightly and has all sorts of risks. I would only think a truly desperate woman would choose this option…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:12 PM
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These trends don't just continue to get more extreme. They self-correct over time. If it's true that a significant portion of women proved to be untrustworthy, then the ones that were would be in higher demand. There would be incentives to prove that someone was trustworthy. The men that are blind to this and just assume that all women are untrustworthy would suffer being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 10:04 PM
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makes sense. You'd think desperate single men would date each other. It seems to happen in prison systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:57 PM
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There is a ceiling or threshold: is there a net benefit to dating this man? If the answer is yes, then she'll likely date that man. If the net benefit is high, then she will enthusiastically date that man. If the net benefit is extremely high, she may still choose to date that man at a cost to deepest values, e.g. she may tolerate being one among many women, even though that goes against her fundamental values.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:55 PM
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For dating, I think it's best to ask "would I rather be alone than be with this person?", if the answer is yes, then break-up. For a marriage, I think the bar should be raised, as it's meant to be a life-commitment, for better or for worse, but if someone's partner is being a total asshole/bitch, then yes, they should get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:47 PM
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Removing rigid classes allows women to interact with men who are who of their league. But class = league. You're just swapping out one hierarchy for another. So now we don't have strict social classes, we have loose social classes based on attractiveness, creativeness, popularity, wealth. And on the whole, these are all more accessible. We are not born into them, we create them ourselves. The desire to be with someone better is the same and self-correcting. The more you aim up, the more difficul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:43 PM
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If marriage is a choice, not a necessity in life, it should be a benefit to both parties. If one person feels otherwise, they should end the arrangement, ie upgrade. It seems to me like most divorces don't result from picking a better guy, but from choosing to be alone, rather than being stuck with a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:29 PM
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I agree. So then I would think a woman's standards would rise. She would only be interested in the men that are a net benefit to her already decent standard of life. This seems like an improvement imo. Sure, many men become undateable, but then shouldn't they try to improve and show their worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:25 PM
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Ah, I was assuming this was in the dating phase. Sure, if two people get married, I think they should honor their vows. But the solution to this isn't to make divorce more difficult, but to raise the bar on marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 09:20 PM
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Ah, so that's just a female trait. Is the actual practice increasing then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:49 PM
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What's a broken home? If we're talking divorce, shouldn't that mean we should be more careful about who we marry? I think the younger generation is more careful about marriage because of the high divorce rate among their parents. There are alternative structures to raising kids. What do you think about two best friends raising kids, and then each of them having their romantic partners on the side? As for the contribution to society, we have women working now so men have to put in half as much wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:48 PM
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Why is that a problem? So the woman doesn't need to marry. And if someone substantially better comes along, shouldn't she be with that person? Of course, if anyone is always thinking the grass is greener, then they will ultimately suffer. It's a self-correcting dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:43 PM
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Better not to lump all assholes together. A bad boy type can be an asshole but he has is redeemable. A rich entitled asshole is very different. Bitter and less redeemable.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:41 PM
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'put her in her place' - For that to be at all attractive to a woman, the things that the guy says or does have to ring true to her. If she has low self-esteem and meets a guy that reinforces that by being an asshole, BUT is also charming and wants her, then she is going to start trusting that guy. If she doesn't have low self-esteem, she's just going to think he's an asshole and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:38 PM
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These attractive men who are abusive assholes get laid, despite being an abusive asshole, because they are charming and can hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:34 PM
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These compound, so a man you would marry would be attractive, have a good personality, and have wealth and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:29 PM
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Assuming common decency: Attractiveness matters a lot for a guy you would hookup with. Personality matters a lot for a guy you would want to date. Wealth and Status matters a lot for a guy you would marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:28 PM
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Who are these ugly guys with money/education/status that can't attract a decent woman? Let's assume they have a pleasant personality. I can't imagine them not attracting a nice woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:22 PM
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makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:09 PM
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but do women really want to date more attractive guys? usually the woman likes to be the more physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 08:08 PM
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why do guys always talk about hypergamy in terms of physical attractiveness? Isn't it about social status? Sure looks play a part, but mostly education and talents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 07:01 PM
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I'd think pretty much the same. But I don't hear many women complaining about a man's sexual past. Most woman seem to think men can change and not hold him to some number. On the other hand, there are men that act like a woman is somehow ruined for life if she was once promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 04:37 AM
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a lot of men would be turned on by that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:43 AM
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didn't realize it was a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 03:23 AM
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Yes, let's assume it's voluntary. She just doesn't believe in casual sex anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:53 AM
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she can remember but her values have changed. she's basically a different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:45 AM
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Agree, but I'll go further. It's perfectly reasonable not to share details about your sexual with a partner. Just say you don't want to discuss details.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:42 AM
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Why shouldn't a woman aim high? We're talking about a husband here, the guy you're hoping to spend your life with and may be the father of you kids. Best to be single if he's not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:40 AM
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Hot Take: Five years of no sex and a woman is basically an innocent virgin. Doesn't matter how many guys she's been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:32 AM
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curious about which cities
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:29 AM
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There's a certain time period after a woman is basically innocent/wholesome again, no matter how many people she's been with in the past. I'd say it's roughly about 5 years. Not that everything is forgotten, but they are essentially a different person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:27 AM
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Hot take: Being a half decent normal dude in OLD will get you all the dates you ever want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:23 AM
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how do these guys with four baby momma's even get dates? Don't woman hear that and run a 100 mph in the other direction? Apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/21 01:19 AM
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Also worth mentioning that it's all timing. The ones that were into hooking up were recently into commitment and vice versa. I'd say only 1 out of 10 are relatively consistent, throughout all the dating stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:56 PM
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From my dating experience: 1 out of 20 were only interested in a hookup, nothing more. 1 out of 2 were willing to hookup, but also wanted more. 1 out of 10 were only willing to hookup with a promise of commitment 1 out of 5 said they would only hookup with commitment but ended up hooking up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:45 PM
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what about revenge porn? that seems like it's all men posting their gfs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:38 PM
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okay, well the relationship is over. both people should just move on. find a better match.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:09 PM
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well then it's not working for him anymore. probably best to create a situation where sleeping around isn't considered cheating. maybe bring a third into the bedroom, or give him a cheat day every six months. It's up to both of them to make the relationship worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:06 PM
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totally! they should both work towards having the other fall in love with them. it's just that the main initial hurdle for men is sex and the main hurdle for women is commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:50 PM
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Agree, not a good fit for you. So a better fit would be a guy that doesn't have casual sex. Likely only a few partners in his life and likes to take things slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:43 PM
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if a woman is into this guy and wants a relationship, she should do everything she can to have him fall in love. without lying or manipulating. She should do it by enticing him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:40 PM
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sure, men should actively entertain or be with multiple women. he should only be exclusive if he's a 100% on board and excited about doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:38 PM
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well, the guy I'm describing really wants one, he just isn't feeling it enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:32 PM
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so this guy is not a good fit for you. But let's say he has many qualities that make him an attractive partner. the woman should show him that a committed life with her is better than having three other sex buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:31 PM
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It's a luxury to have options. So definitely, have options if you can. The best is when both people have plenty of options but still choose to be with one another. It makes the relationship even more special knowing that you're together because you choose to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:24 PM
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Why is this even questioned? If she's an attractive women, she has her pick. When she was younger, she was into hot athletes, as she gets older her tastes change and she wants to be with the doctor. The doctor gets to finally be with a hot woman, even if he's only aight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:21 PM
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No, he doesn't have a right to know about her past. She can choose to not answer but is not obligated to. Sure, the guy can end the relationship. But he's ending it because of his own insecurities and he'll be better off confronting those insecurities rather than just running away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:18 PM
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Beta ex needs to move on!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:13 PM
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Hot Take: A man can desire a committed LTR while sleeping around with multiple women. He's just not feeling it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:12 PM
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So it's not about just diseases. you do care that he's playing around with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:07 PM
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Yeah, that sucks. I bet it's hard. But what else is there to do, aside trying your best to improve?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:05 PM
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That quote shouldn't be used as justification for being a dick. If you are lumping war and love together, and think anything goes as long as you get what you want, then you deserve woman who think the same. You should leave the rest of us to date with compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 10:02 PM
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So ask yourself, why are families more judgey. it's because they are related and want that person to do better for everyone's sake. My comment is not what your neice deserves relative to a random 'crackwhore', (they both deserve compassion). My comment is that 'judgement' may not improve the situation for her, and if it doesn't, as her uncle, you should shut you mouth, keep your judgment to yourself, and actually do something that will help her. If judging her helps, then by all means, use it as…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:56 PM
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If it's just about stds then is it okay to play around without risk of getting something. Petting, kissing, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:48 PM
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who cares! you broke up!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:46 PM
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He should put himself out there his whole life. It's never too late to form a connection. It's not really a matter of deserve or not deserve to be alone. It's just a matter of finding the right fit. That involves being open-minded and adapting to our changing situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:39 PM
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I'd categorize that approach as 'tough love', and yes, if she responds by stopping bad behavior because she's worried about your view of her, then that's great. but she could just start to feel ashamed, do more crack, and hide it from you. in which case you need to try something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:37 PM
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well, it goes back to the comment. does the woman know these are embellishments? if so then that's fine. for example, if you were to say on a date "Allow me to flatter you and please don't put too much weight on what I say because my main goal is to make you feel comfortable." Or to take some creative license to make a story seem more interesting, sure, no problem. But you shouldn't outright lie about important facts about your history and life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:33 PM
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start with friends
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:27 PM
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as an uncle, don't you want to help her, not just cast judgement? I'm glad you got snipped..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:25 PM
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I'm not suggesting that. If a guy keeps being good and puts himself out there, he won't be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:22 PM
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good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:20 PM
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what does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:19 PM
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Hot take: Handjobs are friendly and can be platonic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:28 PM
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Underwear with a brand or tag on it. Yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:27 PM
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jeans and flip flops are cool if you roll up the jeans a few
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:26 PM
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For the men wondering if their feelings or treatment towards women are justified, ask yourself if you would be okay with another guy feeling that way towards your mom or daughter. If the answer is no, then you're in the wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:25 PM
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There would be a transition period, which could last decades, but if the technology was good then more men would start to use the sex robots and the stigma would go away. The biggest pushback in the beginning would be from women, as their sexual value would diminish. But eventually it will be better for everyone. Woman would have their own AI companions that satisfied their emotional/sexual needs. Many would choose not to interact with men at all, instead choosing to spend time with their girlfr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:21 PM
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so maybe something like the 'unlovables' The other 90% of men and women should feel some compassion for the bottom 10% incels and unlockables and support them finding happiness. hopefully with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:02 PM
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Here's your answer: Let's say a man is horny. The majority of time he'll take care of it himself by masturbating. If he has access to porn, he'll likely watch it (involving the woman porn actress). Some might desire more of a personal take and go on Onlyfans, paying a woman for her time and service. (Woman proactively create a page to solicit customers) Even fewer are willing to pay more for actual sex. Or all sorts of weird kink play (totally legal btw). Some guys will want a more regular thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:49 PM
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and I doubt tinder would complain of they received $1 from each person for every match. The incentives would be aligned for good matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:29 PM
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One example would be the pleasure houses of Edo Japan, where girls would train and compete to be Geishas. the modern equivalent might be high-class escorts. Everyone would benefit from men having more options for professional and qualified escorts. I agree with you that we should get rid of degrading, trafficking, low-quality, unsafe, prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:27 PM
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OLD is probably best. There should be dating apps or reddit pages for undesirables to mingle. The Incels should focus on making the gorls feel validated through compliments, affirmations, listening. The gorls should focus on sexually satisfying the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:22 PM
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No one is dragging anyone! I'm only talking about circumstances that women are enthusiastically volunteering. And why limit help to their own gender? We don't do that for anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:17 PM
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I'm asking about the equivalent bottom 10%, based on the woman's desire. I'm assuming we agree that a woman's primary desire from a man is not sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:13 PM
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So let's break this down: The man shouldn't pass on the responsibility, they should be able to ask for help. Every woman has the right to refuse, but not all will. No one should victimize another with violence or drugs. Why don't we agree to let consenting adults do what they want and search for ways to fight violence and drugging.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:07 PM
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so then why don't the incels provide validation to these unloved gorls, and the unloved gorls provide sex to the incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:58 PM
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so these unloved gorls are the counterpart to incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:54 PM
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let's not use sex as the measure for women. what is the thing women want, and who are the least successful 10% of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:53 PM
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So if women desire validation, with the most validated being the sexy accomplished women of the world, who are the bottom 10%, most invalidated women, and what do they call themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:48 PM
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Not only that. The idea of actually talking to people on this sub irl gives me the creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:43 PM
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so what's the equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:41 PM
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okay, but are these self-identifying terms? For example, is a self-proclaimed feminist thinking that's she's in the bottom 10%. Or does a undesirable woman identify as a landwhale?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:41 PM
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So do these foreveralone/femcels and incels realize that they are each other's counterpart?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:38 PM
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Well, let's call it desire instead. What's the most common desire for women in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:36 PM
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those seem like decent options for a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:32 PM
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Totally agree, women should be encouraged to masturbate and feel in control over their own sexuality. It seems like this changes a lot over the last two decades with vibrators being pretty common, even among teen girls. Of course, it's impossible to know, but my feeling is that boys are horny on a whole different level. For example, take whatever sexual urge women have and multiply it by 10X. And I don't think we educate boys on how to deal with this difficulty. Just masturbating is not enough. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:30 PM
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gotcha! thanks! is this a term that they use to describe themselves? are there femcel groups for women to share their grievances?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:14 PM
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If men are driven by sex and the most unsuccessful 10% are referred to as incels - What are women driven by and what are the most unsuccessful 10% called?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:10 PM
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I think this story from RBG is a good example of fairness and equality. Even though a lot of men will mistaken it as some desire for supremacy. "When asked how many of the nine judges on the US Supreme Court should be female — and at what point there would be enough women on the bench, Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a simple answer: "When there are nine."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:04 PM
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isn't this a 'neg'. Guys write whole books on negging.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:46 PM
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what's so bad about preselection? it's efficient. it's like not wanting to eat at an empty restaurant; the food is probably bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:36 PM
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I'm also a feminist though. lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:28 PM
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Men need to expand their ideas of satisfying sex. It's not all about penis-in-vagina. Include other forms of sex and intimacy. This fixation on PIV is booooooring.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:27 PM
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Here's an easy way to solve the whole online dating issue of men swiping on every woman: Make both people pay $1 for every match! it would make everyone more selective. $1 is cheap for a match you're actually interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:20 PM
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Actually, it's not that simple. Man: I'd like to have a certain job done by a qualified individual and am willing to pay. Any takers? Woman: Yes, I'd be happy to help. Here are my qualifications. You: Leave women alone!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:15 PM
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what's the true product? just the flesh and bones of a person? is their hair included? do their clothes, hairstyle, or general appearance matter? are their mannerisms part of the "product"? isn't it all part of attraction? consider makeup another layer, my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:11 PM
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Let me guess, you're a glass half empty kind of person... One person's problem is another person's opportunity. Of course I'm not implying that woman should be forced to play this role. They would volunteer, or even more, compete to provide the best service. And would be fairly compensated through fame and fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 05:03 PM
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don't get caught up on the word duty. it doesn't mean there isn't love or enjoyment necessarily. consider the foot massage as a comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:56 PM
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agree, but I also want to add that the women who love sucking dick, love it because of what it does for their guy. I'd compare BJ's to giving a massage. If the woman really wanted/needed a foot massage. And got immense pleasure from it. Plenty of guys would gladly do that job to please their woman. it seems like a sweet thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:52 PM
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your definition of "wanting it" seems limiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:46 PM
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consider it fancy packaging
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:29 PM
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I'm actually at the other extreme. I not only think it should be legal, but regulated and credentialed. Instead of prostitution, we should promote courtesans. They would be trained in male psychology and pleasure, as well as safe sex practices. Treatment could be prescribed by a doctor, and they would share notes with a psychologist. They would be a respected profession and women would also ask them for advice. Of course, there would be different levels of skills, professionalism, and cost. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 04:22 PM
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good framing. Also plenty of other enjoyable intimacies besides piv sex that would make someone want to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:55 PM
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You're exactly right. They aren't entitled to a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:51 PM
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she should leave you. punch a hole in the wall? what kind of agro dude are you?!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:47 PM
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Why don't you leave instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:42 PM
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yeah, why did this even happen? I'm assuming you said something like 'oh, you don't have a place to stay? Well you can come to my place. don't worry about it.' except when she doesn't sleep with you, you're going to flip out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:36 PM
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Yes, for better or worse, that's pretty much the world we live in. What exactly is your point? I agree with you that women judging attractiveness on height alone is superficial. Every woman should keep that in mind when demanding height certain height requirements. It's essentially the same as a guy demanding large boobs. If you're making the analogy that short men in the dating market are the equivalent to the poor, dumb, sick people of the world, well, they deserve our compassion and should be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 03:24 PM
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Yes, that's one way for a woman to limit getting hurt. But they shouldn't underestimate how far a man will go or how long he may wait if he thinks he may get sex. It may be weeks or months. So in the meantime she should find other ways to get her sexual desires fulfilled. She should develop a healthy masturbation practice. Or have other NSA sex-only partners that she can absolutely trust that won't get in the way of her dating. These can be her close guy or girl friends, and these relationships …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 09:25 AM
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Good point!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:56 AM
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But isn't porn consumption waaaaay up? Men are probably having some of the best spanking sessions in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:51 AM
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How far back are we going here? If we're talking about the timescales of human evolution, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of years. At that scale, I don't think it's really the women 'choosing' much of anything. My guess is that women were treated like property and children were a result of circumstance. Aggressive men and rape are probably a much bigger driver than woman's choice of a mate. If we're talking about recorded history, ideas of a caste system are present in many cultures a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:34 AM
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Yes, I watched the video you linked. All the graphs were presented as distributions. Short men were less preferred but there was no clear cut off where guys under a certain height were updateable. Again, stop focusing on height, instead improve the things you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:15 AM
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Here are the consequences for men: Men have more sexual drive, so they are initially more excited to meet. They will have more incentive to move things forward. They will put in the effort and maintain contact. They'll go to great lengths if they think sex is likely. If not, they'll either put in minimal effort or lash out in some way. If things move forward and they find the woman physically attractive (which isn't a high bar) they will want to get close and physical asap. The mentally weak men…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 08:05 AM
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Most women don't understand how horny young boys are. All the time. Pretty much from pre-teen to early 20s. And that it's very difficult to control. As a society, we need to establish safe and productive ways for boys to channel, explore, and understand these sexual feelings. This includes promoting masturbation and increasing their emotional IQ. They should be taught that their sexual urges are normal and valid, but it doesn't give them the right to have sex. They need to realize that their act…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:17 AM
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Okay, so short men have more competition and have to try harder to be attractive. Life isn't fair. My point still stands: everyone can improve their lot, so focus on the things that will make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 07:00 AM
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Sure, it would cut down on certain tensions regarding sex and gender. But I don't think dating would be any easier. There's plenty of issues around rejection, jealousy, comparison, judgement, etc. among gay men. I still hear my gay guy friends complaining about not finding a boyfriend or that some guy is a slut. If men were able to get certain sexual needs met by being fluid, we'd just find something new to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:44 AM
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This makes absolutely no sense. First, woman are acting on their own behalf when selecting a partner. Not for the betterment of humanity or womankind. Collectively, this makes certain men more attractive, but that dynamic is always changing. It's not predestined. What people are calling "chadness" today, may become a liability in the future dating as society evolves. Just look at all the different beauty standards across time and civilizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:26 AM
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Well, yeah... I'm assuming we're all residents of the first world, talking about western beauty standards and gender dynamics, here on reddit/purplepill. Let me ask you, why focus on height? It's one of the few things that we can't change through effort. Why not focus all the others things that we can, like improving your fashion, personality, physique, talent, wealth, wisdom, character, outlook, etc.? Sure, many woman say they want a tall man (which I admit is superficial). But there are plenty…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 06:13 AM
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With a good sense of humor, they would be getting laid all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 12:30 AM
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Demand respect? Nope...not going to happen. You don't get to demand a certain type of respect, beyond common courtesy. Instead, work on earning respect through being a better person. Anyone can improve their lot in life by trying harder. But you're right that we should have more compassion towards someone that's been ignored, bullied, or rejected their whole life. They need our love and support to heal and become better people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:45 PM
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No, you shouldn't assume anything in a relationship! You don't get to automatically decide sex is part of any deal! That being said, you're free to leave or ask someone to leave your apartment. You should give them the common courtesies when doing so, e.g. kicking them out in the middle of the night with no way to get home is a dick move. You can ask them to sleep on the couch, or you could move to the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:34 PM
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No one should ever be forced or pressured to have sex. So it's up to the man to create a mood and environment where the woman feels comfortable to play. That being said, even if she doesn't want to have sex, she should understand that her partner is horny and help him meet his physical needs without being overextended.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:30 PM
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They should openly discuss their physical desires/needs. There are many alternatives to penetrative sex. For example, they can touch, play, fantasize, etc. Involving another person could also be an option in the right circumstances. But the main goal should be to keep building a loving and trusting home for both partners and the children. Actions that go against this goal shouldn't be considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 11:24 PM
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