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Work is exhausting especially if you’re in the kind of competitive, cutthroat environment that a job that pays 200k+ guarantees. Plus, if I’m married to a man who works extra hard so I don’t have to go to work, I’d be very appreciative and loving honestly and I’m not the kind of person who loses that appreciation easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:27 PM
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I mean even people who don’t like video games can appreciate all those work that goes into making one. The art/graphics, character writing, music, game mechanics and so much more. Personally I enjoy video games and wouldn’t find it unattractive. The rest depends on the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 12:37 AM
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The first one. I appreciate the honesty and much prefer they don’t try anything when they don’t like me that way. Plus that means they like my personality and that’s pretty nice. Being put in the friend zone would suck regardless of gender but it’s at least nice to have the guy like spending time with you even if he doesn’t return your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 06:33 PM
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Lol I did this once as a part 2 of a good first date on weekend when neither of us was working. There was a good movie out and it was right next to us so 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:59 PM
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What’s wrong with going to a classic diner and picking up a bite for a date? It’s a relatively inexpensive and maybe quick date depending on how busy the place is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:55 PM
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This works if you’re ok with a contemporary relationship, but if you want a woman who’s ‘traditional’ in some sort of way (virgin/low bc, housewife, is ok with the man leading, etc.) you’re going to have to take the risks a traditional man would including approaching, pursuing and paying for dates. Editing to say, this is coming from someone who’s been on plenty of cafe dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:51 PM
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Dating is tough and women are prepared for it to not work out more often than it actually does. Often when a guy gets into a LTR it’s usually a calculated decision picking his definition of perfect, so he feels blindsided when he realizes that’s not the case and the woman he liked is a normal human like everyone else. Happens to both genders though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 06:38 PM
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Location is everything in this discussion. My location has a large population of highly intelligent and motivated people because it has a cluster of large schools and businesses. This means people will be more focused on these things than getting into relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:44 PM
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I’m surrounded by good women and most aren’t single. A good chunk found their boyfriend/now husband in high school or college and the ones who didn’t wanted to be in a relationship yet (focusing on getting a BA, masters or PHD not hooking up like guys here think) or were fine remaining single for long periods of time while they were searching for a good man. It’s not easy but it’s not as dire as guys here make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 07:41 PM
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I did this when I was much younger. Part of me both wanted and didn’t want a relationship out of insecurity. So I would set my standards high and panic when they were actually met. It was not a fun time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:19 AM
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I sometimes dream of my old pets and wake up sad because I miss them. I think it’s just an inherent things for some people to get very attached to those they care about a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:41 PM
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No, but I know I’m capable of remaining in love for years even through major difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:09 AM
9

Not in my experience. I’ve experienced people still holding their late spouse close to their heart as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:06 PM
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No, because even though I know not to believe what’s on the surface with other people’s relationships, I know the kind of love I’m capable of, and it would be conceited to believe I’m unique in such a strong positive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:58 PM
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My father doesn’t get very involved in my dating life. He said he trusts me to make the right decision for myself and know what I want and that he’ll simply be there if anything goes wrong. I don’t involve others in my dating life, parent or otherwise, and would prefer someone who does the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:55 PM
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Maybe now I get why mothers are biased towards their sons when they get in relationship. Let’s me know ahead of time to stay far away from their son lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 08:44 PM
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I knew a woman who did everything for her boyfriend including cooking and cleaning for him proudly but he treated her like shit, actively flirting in public and he left her for a woman he took out to expensive restaurants, bought expensive stuff for and married. Honestly it was the stuff of nightmares. Definitely makes you a little anxious to date when you see it go down in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 01:57 AM
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Find a woman who’s good at taking accountability for her actions and mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 01:05 AM
2

Tax breaks depending on country and state, sure fine whatever. The tax breaks aren’t just “whatever”, they are huge! They’ve been significantly reduced year by year but that doesn’t change the fact that it could mean thousands more in your pocket (and more for high income households). The downside to marriage is that your household income might end up being too high to qualify for certain government benefits. If those benefits are important to you then getting married might not be in your best i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:20 AM
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I don’t care either way but the younger guy has to be ready to get married. Otherwise it’s going to be the older guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:01 AM
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The only way you can get an idea of how much of a priority you are to someone is by proximity. You have to spend a considerable amount of time with and around them. But there’s no way of really knowing if you’re someone’s first choice. You can only guess based on how they behave with you and if they want to spend time around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:43 PM
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Those who blend in are forgotten about or fall into the background of our memories while those who stand out whether in a good or bad way resurface.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 07:06 PM
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Hot and cringe, in the age of the internet no less? They should accept a life of shame that they’ve brought upon themselves! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:24 AM
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What you’re noticing is that a lot of promiscuous women actively try to hide it since they have experience with being treated badly for it while your average women might just wear whatever she thinks is comfortable and makes her look good without much thought put in. It’s also easier to remember these cases because they break expectations. It’s going to be more difficult to remember the women who follow expectations unless they’re very hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 02:08 AM
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I think the point is don’t bother women who are running errands, or working/studying. Search for that in an environment that facilitates that sort of thing. Women who are interested will be found there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:14 PM
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Sure why not? It sets the tone for the future of your relationship so either side should do this if that’s what they want and they know each other well. Somebody has to get the ball rolling and it doesn’t really matter who. If you’re waiting for someone who will beg you to be with you 1) you’re setting yourself up for disappointment or 2) you’re setting yourself up for a very toxic relationship. Any average person wouldn’t beg the source of their feelings, they’d simply discuss it with them and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:09 PM
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No it’s just that using sex to get what you want is very depressing. I’d rather use my brain to get what I want and leave sex to be something I take part in when I marry the love of my life aka when I’m most comfortable. I’m too romantic to treat sex as a means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:34 PM
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I think growing up and learning that men have similar fears around dating made me ease up a bit. Still cautious but a little more inclined to open up. Also learning about why men want what they do. Didn’t make sense to me as a kid/college student. There was a lot I just didn’t understand which lead to more anxiety around dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:54 PM
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Ah, private schools are well known for kicking out students who start any problems so people keep to themselves and probably just slander other students behind their backs. I had a cousin who went to private school, from what I was told it’s just a different kind of toxic environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:01 AM
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Burning sexual desire is more of an involuntary reaction than an actual action. It’s not always acted on and there’s usually a good reason for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:27 PM
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https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/time-series/demo/families-and-households/ms-2.pdf Just going to leave this here. From our census the average age for first marriage in 2023 is 28F and 30M. Most people don’t complete college that late.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:32 PM
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This whole discussion is weird. Japan has a lot of people for its size. It’s going to take a while for them to start feeling anything from a couple people checking out or putting off marriage until much later in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 06:20 PM
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So who’s paying for the roof over their head and video games? I’ve also resigned myself to the single life and just play video games on my free time but I still need to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 05:20 PM
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It’s a lack of compromise on both sides. People are raised to be selfish leading to expectations that are unreasonable for any average everyday human. We’re all a part of the problem including myself. There’s nothing wrong without individualism but it’s gone too far in that direction in my opinion. People don’t care about others’ wellbeing and that bleeds into the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:49 PM
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People get ASPD and NPD mixed up a lot. ASPD means someone has low levels of empathy and exhibits it differently not that they completely lack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:36 PM
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People can still marry someone who’s from the same background and was raised with the same values, expectations, etc. but if they fall in love with someone who was raised very differently they just have to adapt and learn to understand where they’re coming from. It’s also about understanding that the way you view things may not apply to the person since they were raised differently. Syrian women are a good example of such a big difference in values because they’re from a culture where they save …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:44 PM
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I always found this to be a bad take. Men can have standards for what they accept for their monogamous relationships just like women do. Plus personally I prefer a guy who holds those standards that because that’s more in line with how I live, so we’d be more compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:59 PM
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I was raised this way except for the walking alone at night but that’s behavior that can get you hurt in a variety of ways not related to men. The reality is that if you’re prone to being afraid of everything, any exposure to danger will do the job even if it’s just stuff you see online or briefly hear about. It doesn’t help that we hear stories about women getting hurt and nobody helping them, effectively telling us that if you fuck up you’re on your own. In this kind of environment I’m even le…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 12:33 AM
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Because the supposed benefits are not worth giving up contemporary benefits for. Reminds me of a certain person who cried that Islam requires him to quit drinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:52 PM
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If left to “nature” our population will completely collapse when we consume all the available resources the planet has to offer like many species before us.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:05 AM
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Stats don’t give you the full picture of a location. My city for example has a lot of crime but it’s still a pretty safe place to live in and visit: It’s pretty rude to cancel at the last moment and imply that the place your friend is pretty familiar with is bad because of these stats. Remember that a lot of crime in that location is related to international laws intersecting and that these stats simply reflect the crimes that have been registered. My advice is to apologize for being rude and ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:39 AM
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Finding an excuse to always go where he is. If a woman just happens to show up where you are all the time even briefly, it’s probably a sign. This depends on the environment you’re in though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:44 PM
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I don’t care what other people think, however I would really hope my family don’t hate him. I’d want him to be comfortable going to family functions and gatherings.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:38 PM
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It’s because women have been expected to be stupid and childlike by default until recently. Even now many people expect women to have hobbies involving makeup and fashion, getting a boyfriend and being obsessed with babies instead of being academically inclined, business leaders and trailblazers in STEM fields.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 06:02 AM
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Personally I don’t care to get into a relationship with a guy who doesn’t focus on me and would rather take my energy elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:40 PM
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Men don’t marry women below their league or decades older most of the time so no this is not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:17 AM
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That can backfire if you want a LTR with a woman though. Because if she can see that you’re doing this, there’s no reason why she wouldn’t do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:09 AM
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True, California legalized it a long time ago but it’s really taken off after the pandemic. I guess it helps people ease their anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:14 AM
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Yup the guys who are meh about you aren’t the ones I want so if having a reasonable amount of caution is enough to drive them away, oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:32 PM
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No most guys understand women have to look out for their wellbeing. That’s just survival instinct. That doesn’t mean it’s ok to be rude though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:25 PM
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Casual sex is less common than people think, it’s just more prevalent in certain environments. If you go to bars/clubs every weekend, use drugs, etc. you’re more likely to see it or take part if you’re an attractive guy. That doesn’t say anything about the general population though because stuff like alcohol and drug use are on the decline among millennials and gen z.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:46 PM
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If men saw women’s true selves, I think they’d see just how accurate the depiction of the angel and devil on each shoulder is. Women aren’t these simple creatures that behave in this predictable manner. We all have our own reasons for our behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 01:56 AM
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It’s alright, it’s natural to wonder why that happens. It’s mind boggling!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:16 AM
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No but they are more susceptible to making bad decisions. Every time I’ve made a decision under the idea that I “absolutely have to” it never works out great.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:12 AM
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Sometimes attractive people make unpredictable decisions because they’re operating under some conditions the outside world is unaware of. There’s probably a reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 12:10 AM
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They probably think they can’t do better whether it’s accurate or not. Maybe they’re bad people too, maybe they’re traumatized, maybe they’ve just had no luck and feel they need to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:03 PM
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Single people already get taxed more than married couples. That’s not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:16 AM
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I don’t know that dating issues affects men’s mental health more than women’s mental health, I think women are just better at covering it up. If asked I don’t bring up the loneliness and instead mention the COL, inability to afford your own home, etc. But the loneliness from a lack of dating is a big contributor to the decline. It’s tough to treat mental health issues when you have something weighing you down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:47 AM
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I don’t think guys have thought much about this. Back in day and still to this day in many parts of the world you had to convince her father and family as a whole that you’re marriage material for their daughter before you even got the chance to talk to her. And these families would expect you to have a prestigious, high paying job if their daughter gets a lot of attention. It only got easier for guys after marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:31 AM
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It doesn’t make much of a difference. I’ve never even kissed a guy and guys still try to get casual sex from me and whine about it when it predictably doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:49 AM
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I don’t make it my job to judge other women’s personal life choices but it’s one I would discourage if asked about it. It’s that simple. I don’t really have a reason to push my personal views on my friends, it would just make it more difficult to get along with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 02:00 AM
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I would guess there’s a reason behind not wanting to get married such as bad experiences in dating or having severe anxiety but being child free is just an inherent thing for many people. Not everyone has the desire to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:25 PM
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No you’re just more likely to remember someone if their behavior stands out. Most men I meet are just normal guys or some variation of normal but the ones that shitty or extra nice are the ones that stick around in your memory. When I was younger I would get in the mode of thinking guys are shitty when I see too many examples, but eventually you realize most just don’t garner that kind of publicity to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:21 PM
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Well guys make it unnecessary stressful when they don’t make it clear how they view you so we have to play it safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 07:09 PM
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Talk to women more and get to know them better. Be realistic about your expectations and lower your standards if they’re not getting results.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:21 AM
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That’s a good question. I don’t mind him asking in public but keeping it more quiet and quick and if possible out of the way is ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:00 AM
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Chubby with muscle is the best!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:58 AM
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I’m very self conscious and anxious about how I come across in public so a guy brining that up in a more private setting gives me room to be myself more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:56 PM
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It would be great to be able to get a strength based job. I already build muscle without even trying, now I imagine if I was a guy with that kind of natural build. As a woman all it does is make people think you’re masculine. So yeah, having a guy’s strength would be a game changer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 09:29 AM
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That would make the most sense. Stats (and common sense) show that casual sex is not a great source of pleasure for women, but there are still a lot of women taking part so clearly I’m missing something here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:38 AM
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I was never under that impression anyway. I’ve been bullied and helped by both boys and girls all the same just in very different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:10 AM
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Privately and quietly. I’m not too fond of public displays.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:06 AM
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There was a large portion of my life where I was questioning whether I was asexual. Once I had fallen for someone, that removed all doubt. I think some women just need someone to spark those desires instead of automatically having them. That’s not to say I never felt anything before but it was rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:49 AM
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Makes sense, it’s very noticeable that societies where the majority of people are happy and have something to look forward to do better than ones with people operating like robots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:12 PM
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This is out of anxiety and safety precautions of not knowing you well enough, not believing we’re too attractive for you. I don’t think I’m particularly attractive but I care for my and get anxious about whether things will work out for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:47 PM
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The point is holding out on perfection just means you will stay alone for much longer. The more time you spend waiting for someone better to come along the less quality options you’ll have because by a certain point most quality people will have settled down with someone and the chances a quality person will ever be on the dating market again are pretty slim. But if you’re attractive and are able to still get women you like then I don’t necessarily blame you for waiting on a quality option if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:25 PM
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Just because you’ve been able to get in a relationship with attractive women before doesn’t mean that’s going to continue being a pattern throughout your life. Sometimes it really is just luck. Goes the other way around too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:51 PM
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I didn’t realize this was such a touchy subject for a lot of guys. Wanting to cuddle after is gay now?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:37 PM
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The first 4 mainly, the rest are a bonus with children because a bonus for later on. I want something/someone nice to look forward to everyday and the first 4 cover it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:52 AM
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This is really paranoid. I’ve never even considered reporting a man for simply approaching, hell I’ve never even reported even if they were making me a little uncomfortable. I live in a congested location so I don’t want to get law enforcement involved unless I feel like I’m in danger. Most of us know how to handle a difficult situation like grown adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:36 PM
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The photos are just to freeze your happiest moments for a lifetime. The responsibilities are going to be there regardless of you get married or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:36 PM
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The benefit is primarily for raising kids well. It’s important to have someone watching over the kids constantly to make sure they’re not getting themselves into trouble and doing things they shouldn’t. At a young age, it’s really easy for kids to get roped into a bad lifestyle and there’s plenty of kids and adults who will try and lead them on the wrong path. I’d want to make sure my future kids lead better and healthier lives than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:31 AM
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Yes but I prefer a guy who will be a provider once we’re married so it’s a way for him to indicate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:58 AM
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I don’t think you could really turn around a relationship with a woman who’s not a good person, considerate or has your interests at heart or just doesn’t desire sex anymore, but for the average woman I think being a good husband, continuing to be what she loved originally and putting effort into taking care of yourself goes a long way. For kids, taking a lot of the burdens off your wife really helps because kids are just a big source of stress and exhaustion. I know that my future husband helpi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:24 PM
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If you need a new table, there’s no shortage of them on Reddit it seems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:20 AM
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It depends on each woman. My future husband will be entitled to sex when he wants baring obvious circumstances like pain and sickness. My sexuality is very reactive so he’d just have to get me in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:18 PM
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Alternative relationships are weird. Maybe he’s one of those crazy dudes who thinks he can get one sided monogamy from her end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:07 PM
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Everything about his life trajectory was predictable. He could always date a boring average woman with good morals but that’s not fun for him, so he can stay single since that seems to be in his best interest. He should stop aiming to prove his opposition wrong and just do what’s in his best interest regardless if it aligns or goes against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 10:01 PM
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The ChatBots are almost here. Abandon all hope, ye who enter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:54 PM
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I hate everything about casual sex culture and have never had any desire to partake but for those who enjoy it, it’s probably like eating candy. I lack any self control when comes to sweets because life is boring and stressful and it’s the only thing that makes you feel good. From what my old friend from high school described, it’s probably a lot like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:01 AM
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I think it has more to do with the fact that women want men who are providers and men need experience to make enough money to provide for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 08:28 PM
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