Bosefus1417 Archive

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1	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? Did you just completely ignore what I said? Are you not reading the source at all? read the fuckin thing, it specifically says 6% of men are obese, and 12% of women. 12 is twice the amount of 6. Literally look at figure 3, or just control + F and type "severe" and find the word. It's not that hard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/25 08:52 PM
5	Why Men’s Rights Often Don’t Get Taken Seriously Just gonna drop this copy/paste that I made a while ago. There's lots more I could add today, but this is enough for now. *Society is more biased towards women. Women display an ingroup bias towards other women, and men also display an outgroup bias towards women. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect) Men are much less likely to attend, or graduate from college than women, at a discrepancy similar to when title IX was implemented for women. Despite this, there is a far great…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/25 02:05 AM
1	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time 50% of marriages end in divorce, 80% initiated by women And the largest reason for that is... money!!! You're not doing woman many favors by citing that. I swear, some of you just live your entire lives based off of vibes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/25 12:54 AM
1	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? Bro scroll down and read the link, I literally told you figure 3. They got a nice ass graph for you with the ages and everything, 6% and 12%. Did you literally just ignore what I said or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/25 12:52 AM
1	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db508.htm Women aged 20-39 are 5% more likely to be obese than men, and 2x as likely to be severely obese as men. Under figure 3.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 09:18 PM
2	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? Okay?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 09:16 PM
1	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? I didn't say obese, I said severely obese. I specifically said severely obese, and separated out a second clause for normal obesity to show I was differentiating between the two (Which by the way, as your numbers mentioned, is still more prevalent in women). https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db508.htm And no, she wasn't attractive when she was obese. I'm sorry, but that's just not attractive, and there's a reason everyone referred to her as the ugly Kardashian. I can't point to a man …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 09:14 PM
1	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time "That evidence won't stop me because I can't read!" What a ridiculous post. I know many married woman who are extremely happy, I guess my own experience cancels out yours since only personal anecdotes matter and not data, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 09:07 PM
2	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? Severely obese is not the same as overweight. I don't think most people mind a little bit of chubbiness, but good lord there's a point where it's too much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 09:06 PM
15	If women like different men, why are there so many men not liked by anyone? Women from the ages of 19-39 are 2x as likely to be severely obese compared to men, and are still more obese on average. Time to look in the mirror, you guys are just the same as us guys, we just don't lie to ourselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/25 10:46 PM
1	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? Exactly. It amazes me to see the mindset of some here in response to me have been "Who cares? Maybe humans need to die out." Or "Who cares? My family will live in a western refugee camp". Utter insanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/25 10:45 PM
3	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? I'm not sure, and no, I'm not advocating for welfare girlfriends or anything like that. Obviously certain things like the economy are relevant, but I think it's probably something that will have to be a cultural shift in people. People seem more focused on blind hedonism, and quick dopamine fixes instead of something meaningful and fulfilling. The problem is that ends up being a very hollow, unsatisfying, unfulfilling life, and I'm afraid people are going to realize this only when it's too late.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/25 12:27 AM
3	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time Beautiful post, sounds like you too have a great relationship. Made me a little teary eyed because I'm not sure I have very good chances of finding that these days. That's my entire point, it just feels like people are getting more and more self-serving and hedonistic with little thought about the other person in their life. If I am blessed enough to find something like that, I'm afraid that this trend of purely superficial relationships and standards are going to result in other people never fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/25 12:23 AM
3	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time No it is not. I'm not sure why people keep saying this about people in the medieval times, but people married for the same reasons we do today as they did in medieval times. Partially economic, but most do/did not get married to someone that they did not also love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/25 12:16 AM
2	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time Why would they not? We should not equate happiness with fulfillment. The greatest things in life are often some of the hardest things you can do. Go ask the vast majority of parents if being a parent is difficult. Almost all of them will say yes. Then, go ask them if they regret it. Almost all of them will say no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 09:07 PM
9	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time Yes actually, this was the study that I was talking about. Paul Dolan who this article cites was misreading the statistics, and has since retracted his statement. There was a category in the study that said "Spouse absent", and he took this to mean that they asked the question of whether or not they're happy once when both spouses were present, and once when the spouses were alone, and the "spouse absent" category had lower rates of happiness. However, this was not what that category meant. What…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 08:59 PM
4	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time This whole subreddit is riddled with posts of guys constantly making assumptions based on social media and complain about this stuff. So the majority of your points dont work if you actually use it for the rest of the posts. I'm sure there's a lot of people who do this on every side, I'm not disagreeing. I don't even think anecdotes are bad all the time, but they should also reflect what the statistics show if we're going to use them as evidence of an average experience. A good guy is someone th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 08:51 PM
4	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time There is a big portion of men that arent even wiping their asses after shitting because they think its gay. This is exactly the problem I have with so much people today. No, men aren't just serial non ass-wipers. You're just getting things off of social media that people are blowing out of proportion because they saw a couple instances in a world of billions of people of people being gross, and then extrapolating that to be some huge worldwide epidemic. This is ridiculous, and you should stop us…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 02:49 PM
3	The reason women claim they have a worse dating life is cause they dated a HVM even if for a short time Statistics show otherwise single, child-free women are actually the happiest group compared to married women. I am quite sure that statistic was literally based off of a guy misinterpreting what the statistic said, and that it's actually married women that are happiest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 02:38 PM
1	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s I never said that the person with a higher salary is the one in charge in an equal relationship I said that a captain having the highest salary is proof that he's ranked higher than anyone else I mean you can see why these two statements are contradictory, right? This really just seems like you're trying to shift goalposts to suit your argument. If the man makes a higher salary than the woman, she still has "financial dependence" on him, at least to some extent. They are not equal providers, one…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 02:33 PM
1	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? Why can't we solve them? We can, by having a higher birth rate. I would rather see my family slowly dieing out in a refuge for "western civilizations", than to have them live through having 5 children each. First of all, no one advocated that they have to have 5 children each. Second, that is immensely sad that you'd rather them die out living a hollow life in suffering than to create something new and to build a better future for the rest of humanity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 02:22 PM
1	What advice do you give to the younger generation of your gender when it comes to dating the opposite gender Find someone that has similar values, goals, and interests to you and be devoted to them and expect the same back towards yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 02:20 AM
1	Threatening that you aren't going to marry isn't as scary as you think to women Obviously they shop more if they're working less, because they have the time to do it. Men are the primary breadwinners in 55% of relationships, and even in "egalitarian" relationships, the man still tends to make more money and work longer hours than the woman. They're just sharing their money with each other because it makes sense to do so when you have a family, and it makes sense for the woman who is at home more often to do the shopping because, well, she's not at work. Men are the ones giv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 02:06 AM
1	Why do so many modern TV shows and movies include anti-male themes? Why is it socially acceptable for today’s media to portray men so negatively? Lmfao all I gotta do is throw you in a CSGO or COD lobby and you'll start crying about how mean people were to you online lol. I don't even want to hear it. Same group of people posting themselves crying on Tiktok 24/7 because of an ad about jeans or whatever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 01:50 AM
1	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? Yeah maybe somewhere there or in between 2-3 if I had to guess. Whatever the rate is that we don't have far more old people than young people while still being able to care for children is overall what I would want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 01:44 AM
1	Women support patriarchy Yup that's exactly about what I expected, lmao. Don't worry, I'd do it too if I were as incapable of articulating myself as you've been.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 01:07 AM
3	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? I'm just not sure how this equates to a low birth rate being good. It seems like the actual conclusion is that you should not have an extremely high birth rate, but a low birth rate is also very bad, and a steady one that can allow for people to still properly care for their children without getting overburdened is ideal. I don't think I can point to a specific stage, but I'm sure something along the lines of what I mentioned is ideal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 01:05 AM
1	What have been negative outcomes for society from feminism in your eyes? Why is it that whenever you guys speak about women doing more housework you absolutely fail to mention that men still work more outside the home? No shit you guys do more housework if you guys are working less hours. That, and you guys completely fail to mention that the studies that do this are almost entirely self reported, and give almost no information about what "housework" actually even entails. You could say laundry is a 2 hour process if you wanted even though you only actually engage wi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 01:01 AM
2	What have been negative outcomes for society from feminism in your eyes? Feminism by definition is the equality of men and women… No it is not. How many attempts do you see from feminists to equalize the grading bias against men in schools, advocate for more male-specific scholarships in college, advocate for more men in the HEAL's fields, to change the definition of rape to accomodate men that are raped by women, to establish more domestic violence shelters for men, and so on? It is interested in furthering women's interests only. It has absolutely nothing to do wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 12:59 AM
1	What have been negative outcomes for society from feminism in your eyes? Dude is it seriously that hard for you to condemn the louder, more radical voices from feminism? It really isn't that hard for me to say that people like Tate are morons, and that they're actively making things worse and have caused some men to behave more transactionally in relationships (And outright disdain for men in many situations). Is it seriously hard for you to do this, or do you just think that feminists have never done something like this before to men? Take some accountability for on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 12:56 AM
0	What have been negative outcomes for society from feminism in your eyes? Feminism isn't the equivalent of "providing food", that is an insane analogy to make. It's led to discrimination against men in the education system in the way that men are graded, they're punished longer for the same offense, and receive far less sex-specific scholarships despite the large gap in college enrollment between men and women (We gave women title IX when the same disparity existed, by the way). It's led to far worse mental health care for men. It is mandatory in many of the classes t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 12:52 AM
0	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? Do you mind articulating the age structure in Somalia and why it doesn't work?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 12:38 AM
1	Women support patriarchy I literally stated your claim to you, verbatim, as you wrote it multiple times. No, there isn't anything productive to discuss if you're just going to go in circles and consistently ignore your own words, or fail to adequately explain what you mean when you use them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/25 12:36 AM
3	What have been negative outcomes for society from feminism in your eyes? For real. It would be nice to see these people actually call out those feminists that give them a bad name, but I can guarantee (As you said) they're just using that to weasel their way out of taking accountability. It really isn't hard for me to say Tate and those similar are toxic and destructive towards men, and it's not that hard for me to call out men who are mole people in their basements doing nothing yelling in the internet. I do all of those quite a few times while still staunchly suppo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 11:41 PM
8	What would your contribution look like to efforts to raise the birthrates ? I mean I certainly have problems with a low birthrate. Is this really that hard for you to see? Can you not perceive the problems of a society that has more old people than it does young? That means much later retirement ages because we need more in the workforce because there's not enough young people to be able to carry the load or else we have scarcity, hospitals that are severely understaffed and overburdened because there's a ton of old people and not enough newer young people to care for t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 11:36 PM
1	Women support patriarchy Your initial concern was that you don't trust men to be good househusbands because you've had negative experiences with people in your life that had a similar situation happen and they did not fulfill their end of the bargain. Your current concern is that I'm misinterpreting your words, and that you're saying that you personally mistrusting men to be househusbands does not mean that it's a fact of life that men can't be househusbands. My problem is that I believe your mistrust is fundamentally t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 11:30 PM
1	Women support patriarchy You're not. You're literally just saying "This isn't one inch, it's 2.5cm!". Again, my entire point is that if you say you don't trust men to be a househusband, you're saying that men can't be trusted to be househusbands. I do not know why this is so hard to understand. If I said "I don't trust a woman to be president", that would be the same as me saying "women can't be trusted to be president". The reason those are the same is because the basis for my mistrust in someone is the fact that they'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 10:05 PM
0	Do you resent being "at the mercy of your employer?" Or serving a "corporate overlord?" Nothing I said was about "traditional relationships." My entire post is specifically about working a job. Something that is frequently portrayed as awful when women do it, but heroic and fulfilling when men do it. Men "keep society running" after all. My post is specifically about isolating a discussion around this concept. About why these differences would make sense, and why being beholden to the person who is beholden to the "corporate overlord" is supposed to be the better position. The enti…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 09:20 PM
1	Women support patriarchy Don't you think I know more about what my beliefs are than you do? Why do you get to tell me that I'm wrong about what I think my beliefs are? Because you literally just told me like three comments ago? Notice how you worded it like that? If you were being honest, you would have worded it "I have no reason to trust that she will actually be a breadwinner." Which is the sex-swap of my actual words. What are you even talking about? You didn't mention a specific person, you said a man. That is a ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 09:13 PM
–	Gender Wars : Revenge of the Simps As you said, marriage rates are decreasing and people aren't getting into long term relationships as much. This is what I was saying in the first paragraph as well. Marriage might be getting less transactional, but it doesn't seem like normal relationships are (If people are getting into them at all).	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 09:11 PM
3	Modern feminism is female supremacy, feminists don't actually want equality We just gonna pretend like feminists haven't been going on about incels for the past few years now?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 07:30 PM
6	Gender Wars : Revenge of the Simps What I expect will happen is people will end up in more and more shallow (transactional) relationships, and people will grow to resent the opposite gender more and more. People may get into relationships, but it's going to be for the entirely wrong reasons and they're going to end up crashing and burning. The actual "mechanics of the game" is to find a person that shares similar values/interests/goals as you do and marry that person; not to behave transactionally yourself. That's just cutting of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 07:27 PM
2	Women support patriarchy What are you talking about? I'm just saying that you hold the belief in your mind that men cannot be trusted to be homemakers, I didn't say it "was physically impossible for them to do so just because you said so". I am saying that you are holding a cognitive bias in your mind due to anecdotal experiences and it's clouding your judgment of the average person and their intentions/motives/work ethic. If a man said "A woman cannot be trusted to be the breadwinner", I would say the exact same thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 07:24 PM
0	Do you resent being "at the mercy of your employer?" Or serving a "corporate overlord?" I wouldn't necessarily say I resent it in the same way I wouldn't say I resent having to do chores every day. It's just a fact of life that I need to do. I don't think most people are fortunate enough to find both a job they absolutely love, that also pays the money they need though. It's not the job itself that I find empowering, but as you mentioned, the job is what enables me to provide for those that I care about. In a similar vein, a woman being a homemaker may also give a similar feeling o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 07:21 PM
1	Women support patriarchy Saying "I don't trust a man to do it" is the same as "Men can't be trusted to do it".	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 07:10 PM
2	Women support patriarchy That is the same exact sentence phrased slightly different.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 06:44 PM
0	Women support patriarchy I would love to support a househusband, but I have no reason to trust that he will actually be a househusband. I mean this is pretty fucking close to that, but if we want to be pedantic we can change "can't be househusbands" to "men can't be trusted to be househusbands".	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 06:15 PM
1	Women support patriarchy What are you even talking about? Your entire post was about complaining that men can't be househusbands because they don't do as much housework while they're also working and the woman is taking less hours (You literally acknowledge this in your comment that women work less in the first sentence). These aren't house husbands, they're workers that you also complain aren't househusbands simultaneously. No, your personal anecdote about your dad doesn't have anything to do with what most people do, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 06:08 PM
2	Why are men putting less effort in pursuing women than before? https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db508.htm "The prevalence of severe obesity in men (6.7%) was lower than in women (12.1%) overall and for each age group. Among men, the prevalence was highest in those ages 40–59. Among women, the prevalence was higher in those ages 20–39 and 40–59 than in those age 60 and older." "The prevalence of severe obesity in adults was 9.4% and was higher in women than men for each age group." Non-severe obesity was mostly even, but still leaned towards wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 06:02 PM
2	Women support patriarchy This is just a huge misunderstanding of statistics. Young childless women DO outearn young childless men already. It's only when they have children that this dynamic changes, because the woman stays home to support the children, and the man begins taking on more hours, higher stress jobs, etc so he can get more pay to provide. Obviously they're not going to do as much house work or childcare when he's working.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 05:50 PM
-2	Women support patriarchy Why are you expecting 50/50 work in the house/care when you're working less? No shit you're going to do the bulk of that work if your husband is out spending the time working instead while you just work part time/stay at home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 05:48 PM
2	Why are men putting less effort in pursuing women than before? Most guys don't put efforts into grooming and fitness the way most young women do, is a different thing bro! Women are twice as likely to be obese as men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 05:37 PM
1	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s You literally brought up having less salary as a reason for people being less equal. This is actually insane how you're just willfully changing what you said to suit your argument. "Why does the captain of a ship have more salary," This is so disingenuous of you. You're clearly not interested in an honest conversation, you're changing words around and constantly shifting goalposts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 05:03 PM
1	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s They are just 2 adults without predefined roles. They are both providers, they both take care of the house and the children. You literally just gave them predefined roles in the sentence right after. People can be unequal in the actions and the things that they do while still having equal value as human beings. I mean you can seriously get extremely granular with this. If a husband makes 80k a year and his wife makes 60k a year, are they equal? By no means, the husband makes more income than her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 02:09 PM
1	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s I'm gonna ask you again for the third time, what is your definition of equal? I've asked you for it 3 times and you still haven't answered it. Be specific.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 01:39 AM
1	It’s not dating apps or feminism that have raised women’s standards—it’s the removal of pressure This is why I had in parentheses and full caps lock "(WITH SOMEONE WITH SHARED VALUES/INTERESTS/GOALS/ETC)". People who get divorced often do not have those things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 01:38 AM
8	It’s not dating apps or feminism that have raised women’s standards—it’s the removal of pressure Men have always been able to be as judgmental and harsh to women as they want, the only difference is we're more equal now so women are dishing it back more. There's also the society-wide shift towards being as rude and condescending as possible online. No we cannot, lmfao. I am not sure how this idea that men can be "more judgmental" to women ever came to your mind. This is just flat out not even close to true. We are far more protective of women than we've ever been of men. Even in the way we …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 10:28 PM
8	It’s not dating apps or feminism that have raised women’s standards—it’s the removal of pressure Dating sucks because no one is actually dating for marriage everyone is dating for sex. This to me is the biggest problem with dating today. People are too damn hedonistic and it's leading to unfulfilling lives for everybody. I don't know why. People who get married (WITH SOMEONE WITH SHARED VALUES/INTERESTS/GOALS/ETC) report the highest rates of happiness, money, and so on. I'm not sure if it's just that people are afraid to commit, feel like marriage is going to be "the end of their fun", that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 10:24 PM
1	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s So you are saying all women in the redpill sub, and all the women who are authors who wrote several books about this dynamic are all wrong? You are also saying that all the guys here saying that they want a "submissive wife" are also wrong? Yes. I think it's more likely that you have it wrong or you are somehow trying to do some mental gymnastics to avoid saying that trad relationships aren't equal, because honestly it looks very bad. But as long as women are fine with this dynamic, it's their l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 10:19 PM
2	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s yep	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 10:11 PM
2	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s So why do RP women talk about "the captain of the ship"? Because a lot of red pillers are completely transactional and aren't interested in a traditional relationship at all. They believe their wives should be devoted to them. In a traditional relationship, at least in my belief, both husband and wife should be devoted to one another. Why does the captain of a ship have more salary, more responsibilities, more power. More responsibilities are a burden, not a perk. Saying that a captain is as imp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 01:18 AM
1	We need to stop comparing sex with money, these are not great trade offs to begin with. You literally just called them a bangmaid. In what way is that not degrading?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/25 01:12 AM
2	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s The majority of the household spending is usually to chores. Bc in most relationships women are usually responsible for the majority of chores including grocery shopping- which is the biggest contribution to this statistics. That's kind of my point. It's not like the guy somehow holds power over the women when she has control over the spending. It's actually perfectly in line with a traditional relationship for the woman to be the spender. Single women and single men spend relatively the same. O…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 10:23 PM
5	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s Would you say a trad relationship is about equality? In a sense, it's equal. Not in the sense that two people are doing the exact same things in the exact same proportion, but in the sense that they're both putting all of their effort into the relationship and the family. For the man, that may be making certain decisions, working, protecting, and so on. For the woman, that may mean doing the housework, primary childcare, budgeting, and so on. Separate things that you can't really quantify and co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 10:18 PM
1	We need to stop comparing sex with money, these are not great trade offs to begin with. The hell are you talking about? Most of my sisters are stay at home, and so was my mother, and those were choices they made, doesn't make them "bang maids". I'm not even sure what that means, and it's extremely insulting to actual stay at home mothers. Why are you denigrating women's choices?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 10:09 PM
5	Gen Z men's life choices are the primary reason they're much more single than gen Z women; gen z women are finding equitable partners outside of heteronorms That Pew poll was a huge outlier, most other polls gave a much more even depiction from what I understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 01:56 AM
5	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s Woman are responsible for about 70-80% of household spending. Men may earn the money, but women are the ones who spend it. Not only that, they also get half of the money in a divorce anyways, so it's not like they're forced or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/25 01:51 AM
26	Women frame their own toxic behaviors as harmless while condemning men’s Why did you solely focus on him saying "tall" instead of "richer" and "protective", which are far more important points? If wanting your wife to do all the chores makes her a "bangmaid" then wanting your man to provide all the money makes him a slave, which I would hope you agree is also dehumanizing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/25 10:17 PM
1	Wow, older women really are full of baggage That's what I'm saying, I'm saying that the guy you're quoting randomly brought it up when the OP of the post never said anything about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/25 06:43 PM
4	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships I mean I'm sure there's a degree as you mentioned, and there's always individual situations that we can find where women are okay with this happening, but I'm speaking on average. It's also not exactly common that someone gets decapitated on the job. I'd bet if it was the exact same job with the exact same dangers prior to the person being decapitated, many women would not be nearly as open to the man taking a pay cut.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 09:14 PM
1	Wow, older women really are full of baggage I don't see where anyone brought up specifically how older women behave in sex or something. Some people just find older women attractive for whatever reason. Nothing wrong with that, I don't think this is something that's similar to race. Age gives a person more maturity and life experience and such, and some people like that. They may also find older women more physically attractive too; don't see why that would be wrong either. I think my biggest issue was the instant assumption from you and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 09:12 PM
6	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships I didn't say that there weren't any poor guys in relationships. I said the reason men tend to take higher stress and more dangerous jobs is because they need more money to provide for their families, and women tend to want guys that make at least the same, and usually more, money than them. Imagine a guy that's making 80-90k/year in a hard working job asks his wife if he can take a lower stress job that makes 30-40k a year. This isn't something that's going to fly in many relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 09:06 PM
7	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships And they will probably make less money on the "safe job" and thus have lower chances of a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 08:32 PM
3	Wow, older women really are full of baggage I mean I don't think it's "fetishization" or something for someone to have a type of person that they like. That's a little bit extreme. Almost all of us have our own preferences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 08:29 PM
6	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships Ask the men who work dangerous jobs why they do it. I can almost guarantee they'll answer "Higher pay" each time. And when you ask why they desire higher pay instead of a lower paying job that's less dangerous, they'll probably answer "Gotta keep a roof over my family's head and food on the table". They work higher stress jobs and more dangerous jobs because it's a necessity to provide for our families.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 08:28 PM
32	Men are the Workhorses of Modern Relationships How many women want a stay at home guy? Not sure why you're acting as if this is something that men even have an option with. Most women will not date a man unless he makes the same or more money than him, and usually it's more. We even see this sentiment consistently on this sub. It's not that men actively disdain being a stay at home parent (Of course, many don't want to do that), it's that it's not even on their radar as an option because they know the odds of that happening are extremely sli…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 08:26 PM
1	Women using antidepressants more often than men doesn't mean they secretly want to be tradwives. Unfortunately, that's not something that I'm able to do given that I have to keep a roof over my head and provide for my family. I just vote for the people who don't actively hate men. Seems to be quite effective and has made a lot of noise for us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 01:42 PM
1	Women using antidepressants more often than men doesn't mean they secretly want to be tradwives. Because women are the ones who go. And they probably go more because it's more tailored towards women. I understand that this was something built up in the past where women primarily went to therapy, but we live in a completely different time and it's time that we start exploring more means of therapy for men. I'm not sure why we're treating men today as if they're the same as they were in the 50s or something. Clearly men need a better form of therapy today, because what exists currently isn't …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/25 01:43 AM
-1	Women using antidepressants more often than men doesn't mean they secretly want to be tradwives. It's probably because therapy is tailored primarily towards women and not men. About 70% of psychologists are women, for instance. When women suggest that men go to therapy, it probably gets laughed at because it's not as effective for men, and it can be frustrating to see women treat men as if they're just broken women, and that if they just did all the things that women do they'd be fine. Men and women are different, and need different things. Men tend to need more instrumental support, for in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 09:36 PM
5	Being lusted over by people who hate you is worse than not being sexually desired It depends on the degree, of course. Naturally, I think it's worse if someone is raped/trafficked than if someone is just lonely (Though I don't believe there's a need for comparison - there's a world where we seek to eliminate both), but if you're just saying a 50-60 year old woman is going to shout at me that she likes my ass, or I randomly get my ass grabbed (Yes, these have all happened), then I'd take that than being lonely. I'm a grown adult, it's not the end of the world to me if these th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 09:17 PM
1	Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ? Yeah could just be different areas or a million other reasons, I'm also not immune to bias myself given the people I'm surrounded with by this. Thanks this was actually a productive conversation I think and it's nice to find common ground with someone even if we don't agree on everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 09:12 PM
4	Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ? Not that this always happens, but this is absolutely common enough to get people to stop doing it, and I wish more women were willing to call out this type of behavior. It's possible that I'm biased, but nearly every women that I know that isn't 40+ years old has told me they've either manipulated someone for free drinks with no intention of actually interacting with them, or completely yelling at a person that comes up to them for just saying hello. I literally mean you can just go up to them, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 07:55 PM
6	Woman-loving-woman relationships do not have more intimate partner violence than straight relationships They are. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17395835/ It's about an even split between men and women on who abuses their partners. Most DV situations are reciprocal meaning both parties abuse each other, but in nonreciprocal situations where there was only one abuser, the woman was the perpetrator 70% of the time. Yes, this means the common stereotype of a battered wife doing nothing and having her husband beat her is actually the other way around, painting a far different picture than we usually …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 05:40 PM
2	The overturning of Roe v Wade should have made women (particularly American women) more empathetic towards their male counterparts, not less Medically necessary abortions hapoen 80% of the time. No they do not. I am not sure where people come up with this, but ~95% of abortions are elective, and the rest are cases of rape, incest, and medical necessity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 05:34 PM
3	The overturning of Roe v Wade should have made women (particularly American women) more empathetic towards their male counterparts, not less And women shouldn't let guys nut inside them that they don't want to have a child with? Are you seriously failing to see the point that they're making with you or something? Maybe you're against both "paper abortions" and actual abortions and I'm just misunderstanding you though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 05:32 PM
7	Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ? I think this is where the primary disconnect is. It's not that many of these men are just assholes that need to work on their personality (Naturally, there are people like this, not saying these people don't exist). It's more that there's literally 0 chance of contact at all, or at least 0 chance of even demonstrating that you are kind with a decent personality. On a dating app? Most men are instantly swiped left, there's no chance to look at their personality unless you consider someone's bio a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/25 05:28 PM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? That’s a completely different environment from a family friend trying to ask out your sister and getting roasted. To clarify, this was not a family friend, it was my sister's friend. I didn't even know the guy. You’re not obligated to do anything. If that’s not your style or you’re too poor…don’t do that. It's not about "being too poor" like you're saying here. I don't want to be with someone who's criteria for being with me is my money. I'm not sure how you got "being too poor" from what I said…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 08:50 PM
1	Women cant complain when men dont care for them Lmfao no way you seriously just said this. You know a similar thing happens with women too where they can get aroused while they're being raped too, right? That doesn't mean they enjoy it. It's the same with men. What a ridiculous comment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 08:45 PM
1	My Theory of Attraction: Why Behavior Matters for 90% of Men How does one "practice being kind" in your view? I'm asking because it seems like you have this idea that it's something you need to work on like going to the gym, and that you have to set aside time to do it or something. For me, I've become kinder and it really hasn't been something I've needed to set aside. For one, you can begin to think about things you're grateful about. If someone lets me over, it's not that hard for me to just take a moment to acknowledge that was a kind thing a person d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 07:19 PM
3	Why do you say the redpill is misogynistic? I'm not a blue piller or anything, but I can answer the 80/20 thing. It's literally just a numbers game. There's actually a similar ratio of men to women on the dating apps, so of course when women only make up 20% of the dating apps, they're more likely to get with the top 20% of guys since they're their only options. Don't get me wrong, I think social media has done a ton of harm to people's perceptions, and people increasingly need someone more attractive and in line with what they saw on soc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 07:12 PM
1	My Theory of Attraction: Why Behavior Matters for 90% of Men 24 hours a day is a LOT of time. I'm not even really sure what "effort" you need to put into being kind anyways, and making improvements in your life tends to snowball the same way bad decisions snowball in the opposite direction. Using myself as an example, waking up and making sure I made my bed and cleaned my room made me feel less stressed, which made me feel more motivated to workout, which made me feel more motivated to eat healthy, which made me feel more tired at night so I got good slee…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 07:07 PM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? There is a slight risk of that, sure. Hence why you buy a round outright the first time and then see if they reciprocate or if they’re just milking you for drinks. I don't think anyone should feel obligated to buy anyone drinks at all, nor should it be expected. Either you're attracted to the person for who they are, or you're not. I wouldn't want to be with a person who's influenced by whether or not someone spent money on them. Frankly, the lack of success in not approaching automatically make…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 02:36 PM
2	Alimony make sense in many cases and should not become obsolete and permanent alimony makes sense as well To me, it just depends on who's at fault. Women cheats, or decides she wants to divorce because she "fell out of love"? You don't get alimony, you broke the contract of marriage between your husband. If the man cheats and he wanted a stay at home wife? You're at fault, and you broke the contract of marriage. You and your wife agreed that you'd work while she stayed at home, forgoing her work prospects and removing her ability to gain experience for potentially years of her life. She deserves ali…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 12:35 PM
2	My Theory of Attraction: Why Behavior Matters for 90% of Men Can't you just... do both? Is it really mutually exclusive to be a kind, good hearted person while also taking steps to make yourself more attractive? In fact, I'd argue the two often go hand in hand. And wouldn't you rather be with the woman who wants a kind good hearted person instead of the one who solely focuses on the most superficial aspects of someone? I feel like you're just setting yourself up for failure in the future. I also want a good woman, and I don't think that's something that's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 11:17 AM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? There are no woman who disagree with the most hateful bigoted women against men. Literally none. I mean that's one hell of an assumption. I myself know many women who are nothing like that. Hell, there's literally women out there that champion men's rights and care deeply about men's issues. My literal mother is nothing like those people. There are women who are preaching here that hookups are bad and upon further questioning turns out they were also doing hookups with hot men. We're on a subred…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 11:09 AM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? Aside from the obvious cost of buying some random person drinks, this is not something that necessarily aligns with reality. First off, almost every woman in my life (Sisters, friends, etc) has said that they will literally feign interest at a man at the bar like that for free drinks with no intention of getting to know the person. Many women in my life have also said that if a guy simply comes up to them and says hello (And yes, I specifically asked about the method in which the guy approaches)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 11:04 AM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? Do any of these women strike you as the kind that you'd like to date? If not, I don't think you should be taking their advice and preferences. No, as a guy (And very anti-feminist and all that) myself, I do not think it is wrong for a women to want a guy who takes some basic care of himself and looks moderately attractive. As the other person said, go to the gym, brush your teeth/shower, don't have extreme psychological issues, and dress yourself nicely. I'm sure you don't want a woman who refus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 10:59 AM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? I have a question because I've seen a few of your comments and I haven't seen the answer. Why should someone date you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 10:55 AM
–	What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances? Honestly maybe it's just me, but I'd much prefer people tell me what's actually going on, and if I was ugly, to just give me advice on what I need to do. I've often found things like "Drop 20 lbs, get a better haircut, buy clothes that fit you, shave your neckbeard, use some lotion" etc are much easier to follow and a lot easier to quantify than just "be nice to people". I actually think that someone's ugliness is much more actionable (Or at least it's much easier to diagnose why they're ugly an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/25 10:34 AM
3	We need to stop comparing sex with money, these are not great trade offs to begin with. I'm all for paying for the date. I'm pretty traditional, and I'd absolutely love to be chivalrous and do all that. Just not with people that show absolutely no reciprocity or gratitude. I'll ask this again for the millionth time on this subreddit (And I still haven't gotten an answer). You have all of these expectations for a man to be a protector, provider, and so on. Now what are you providing for us? I have plenty of duties towards my woman as a man, and society seems to agree that I should h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/25 05:46 PM
2	People angry at the term “Emotional Labor” have never cared for people. Hey no problem man lmao it be like that sometimes I do that shit too I just start typing and I can't help but keep going	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/25 12:21 AM
5	People angry at the term “Emotional Labor” have never cared for people. Right, it's not like we as men have never had to listen to our women's insecurities, issues with their parents, stressful days, or anything like that! We all know that women are NEVER sensitive in relationships and are just perfect at controlling and managing their emotions compared to men! It's definitely men that cry more in front of their partners than the women! Seriously? Which leads me to my next problem, because everyone until apparently 5 seconds ago knew that men were typically more sto…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/25 12:20 AM
5	People angry at the term “Emotional Labor” have never cared for people. Men earn more than women? Money is the most important thing in the world. This one always gets to me lol, because childless young women actually make more than men, and it's when they have children that women begin to make less money because obvious reasons (Pregnancy, breastfeeding, may quit their jobs to provide childcare, etc). That's also about the time that men begin to make a lot more money. It's not because they're just living the dream finding an amazing job that they love, it's often a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/25 12:10 AM
3	A theory on why some men are sexist - because they need women See this is the stuff on the other end that you also lose me on. Yes, a lot of women today can be entitled and obnoxious and transactional. No, we cannot make generalizations about entire groups of people. Plenty of women genuinely want to be in a relationship with someone because they love them, and not because they want to use it as a "power play". These are cognitive biases that a number of both sexes seem to display towards the other sex that is causing them harm. When you make generalizatio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/25 12:05 AM
4	A theory on why some men are sexist - because they need women The problem is a lot of these issues impact our lives outside of imply dating or being with a man. There seems to be a growing level of random violence towards women. Maybe the media is just focusing on it more. Maybe it is growing. But as someone who is happily single, I am very concerned about that. This is absolutely media sensationalism, especially with things like Tiktok (And Reddit). Violence towards women (And violence in general) has been trending down for decades now. What I suspect is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/25 04:15 PM
1	A theory on why some men are sexist - because they need women I didn't say this was every woman on this subreddit. I specifically said "all of the women on here who say they're "done with dating, and are decentering men from their lives"	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/25 04:05 PM
5	A theory on why some men are sexist - because they need women I entirely agree, the difference between what I'm saying and what you're saying (Unless I'm not understanding you correctly) is that I'm saying this type of behavior is present in women too. Even the women that are sexist/misandrist/etc on this subreddit often have a very similar experience where they didn't get the relationship that they wanted, whether that be flat out rejection, a guy playing games with them, or a guy not meeting their standards, and subsequently became sexist because of that…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/25 01:07 PM
7	A theory on why some men are sexist - because they need women Love to see that men wanting intimacy and romance with women is somehow seen as a bad thing now (No, wanting romance and intimacy is not the same as wanting a bangmaid or a therapist or whatever you guys like to say). And you're right, no women has EVER wanted romance and intimacy with a man in her life! Definitely not like we're on a sub where women consistently complain about not being able to get their perfect relationship or anything like that! Women definitely aren't the primary posters on …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/25 10:42 AM
1	Accountability and Men I need you to understand that the vast majority of people do not hang out with or are involved in situations where people are doing this. In fact, if we are hanging out with people, especially women, the chances of a guy going up to them and harassing them are much lower just due to our presence, so we won't even deal with the situations you're talking about. but if you are with your friends and you spot a guy being creepy then do something. at least call the police. most of the time, men don’t …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/25 10:35 AM
1	Accountability and Men Then what would you like for me to do? Again, I do not support or socialize with any person that I know is a rapist. I completely disavow them, and support laws to lock them up for a very long time. I am not sure what else that it is you want me to do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 11:44 PM
1	Don't give up: Mature women appreciate kind men yep so true I cooked with that comment	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 11:37 PM
3	Don't give up: Mature women appreciate kind men Yup, this is my mindset. I want someone who shares my values/goals/interests (To some extent at least) and wants to be as devoted to me as I will with her. This is the true meaning of "choose better" to me. It doesn't mean to find someone who's 6 ft tall or a perfect thigh gap or whatever other superficial BS is out there. I am who I am at the end of the day. I'm not going to change myself just because there's some entitled women out there on social media who think I should serve them at every w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 11:27 PM
6	Accountability and Men Then what the hell am I supposed to do? Randomly accuse my friends of raping or harassing someone? How do you know the people YOU hang around with aren't rapists or sexual harassers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 06:13 PM
5	Accountability and Men "It's patriarchy when society likes women more!!!"	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 06:13 PM
3	Accountability and Men I hope you understand that men are also more biased, except towards women. Going by your logic, that would also mean that men call out other men on their shitty behavior. That would also mean that women are LESS likely to call out shitty women on their behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 03:18 PM
4	Accountability and Men Tf do you want us to do? Understand that most of us don't hang around serial rapists and harrassers. In fact, if you ever see something online about a rapist, people will be quite detailed about what they'd like to see done to them. I support locking up rapists and abusers for very long times and I don't want to see them get out of jail in 2 months for good behavior. I don't hang around rapists and sexual harrassers or abusers or anything like that. What the hell are we supposed to even do? Shou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 03:16 PM
4	Women are the ones red pilling men, not the manosphere Know what's crazy? Similar figures exist in reverse, but for men and yet we all like to pretend that doesn't happen. I also find it a little disingenuous to use worldwide statistics that include places like Afghanistan and such given that most of us live in western countries. Most of us entirely agree that it's terrible to live as a woman in places like that where women can be raped and get arrested for it (Just as men can be abused in America and be arrested for it due to the Duluth model by th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/25 03:10 PM
1	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? I dont. I mean it's enough for leadership in the UK to make policy off of it based on a fictional documentary (Adolescence). Gotten sick of women expecting equality? Yeah. They would do. They dont like it. Your brainwashing is clear despite your objection. It's not equality. I'm not even sure who would do the brainwashing to me, I don't even follow any red pill types or anything like that. You're not looking hard enough then.' 92% of sex-specific scholarships are received by women You seem very …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 09:42 PM
1	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? No. But if it was, why would that bother you? Because these things end up affecting all of our minds and influences people's behavior and public policy. The majority of tax dollars go to women despite men being the highest tax payers. They get far more support for their issues than men ever have. Therapists are literally trained on courses where they have to subscribe to feminist theory like toxic masculinity and male privilege and are expected to apply those guidelines to their patients (Seriou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 05:37 PM
1	You're not an "average" guy if you struggle in dating I agree as a guy that it definitely seems like a one way street today, not much argument from me there, though that does seem to be changing. I do find men changing to be somewhat understandable though, even if it's unhealthy in the long run. I'm not sure why people expect men to "give give give" as you said while receiving nothing in return. Obviously that's just going to make men become more selfish since they're only doing the same as women seem to do to them. I do not view this as a healthy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 05:02 PM
2	Do you ever feel bad seeing how some people talk about struggling guys or even incls? Most people don't use the word incel either nor do they know what it is (Though it is becoming increasingly common). We're all terminally online here and we're using word that most people don't know in public but that we've all come to use. If you would prefer me to type out "women that have prior issues with certain men and have thus become bitter towards all men" that's fine but I'd prefer to use the term that most people here know and use. Not only that, I was responding to a person that spec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 04:50 PM
1	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? I dont recognise any of that You don't think that feminism is exceedingly prevalent in academia, politics, and media today? I think youve spent too much time allowing yourself to be spoon fed anti women propaganda. The opposite, actually. I spent my entire life being told how evil I am for just being a man, and how much I'm supposed to give to women. This did not come from me seeing anti-women propoganda, my reaction to all of this is a response to being waterboarded with all of this negativity …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 04:47 PM
5	You're not an "average" guy if you struggle in dating Do people honestly think the attitude of the average person towards relationships is seen in some sort of transactional sense where people are only looking at the tangible aspects of what they get out of a relationship? Of course on some level these can be connected, but there's often far more that goes on when two people become attracted and romantic/in love with one another. My problem with many on this subreddit is that relationships are viewed so transactionally and that that's clouding peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 02:28 PM
4	"Women were forced to be with terrible men back in the day"- Then what about today? Dude this is the most annoying thing that I've seen online. I am so exhausted by people using these terms in the complete wrong way. It ends up portraying something that is probably a minor situation into something far more disasterous, and yet also changes the perception of those words to something much less extreme than what they should actually entail. Something like gaslighting or narcissism is FAR more extreme than most people believe. If you go look up actual examples of this stuff and the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 02:24 PM
5	There is no such thing as an "invalid" or "shallow" reason not to date someone, every single dating preference is valid. There will ALWAYS be someone better than the person you are in a relationship with, there are too many people in the world for that not to be the case. There is probably someone that's more attractive, more chemistry, with a vision of life that's more aligned. That is not what makes somebody your soulmate. It is the life that you both, being flawed human beings with imperfections, have created together that makes someone your "perfect person". Tolkien words this much more beautifully than I have…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 02:14 PM
10	There is no such thing as an "invalid" or "shallow" reason not to date someone, every single dating preference is valid. Exactly. I really do not understand why people are choosing the worst possible standards for a date. Someone's height or income or cup size or eye color does not make them a good person to be in a relationship with. I think it's fine to want someone that's attractive, but no need to be overly picky. People really need to start looking for people with similar values, goals, and interests instead. I'm not sure why something arbitrary like some random innate characteristic about the other person is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 02:07 PM
1	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? My relationship is based on equal values. I earn more, by a lot. I expect equal housework and childcare. They are not my job. We support each other emotionally. So yeah, thats what women should offer. An equal partnership. See this I can get behind. If both parties want to actually reciprocate in what they're giving to one another, both emotionally, monetarily, their time spent with each other, and so on, I have zero problem with that. There just seems to be this very common attitude amongst a g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 02:01 PM
6	Do you ever feel bad seeing how some people talk about struggling guys or even incls? For real, they point to one or two major incidents that have happened in the past decade that are universally condemned by everyone to act as if it's some worldwide epidemic. We literally have places like the UK making fictional documentaries like Adolescence, and then using something that they literally made up as evidence that there's some large problem, and create policies based off of it. It's insane.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 01:51 PM
4	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? That was common maybe 20-30 years ago, but that is NOT something that is nearly as common today. Men who even ask for a relationship like that are attacked, and told that they "just want a bangmaid" or something along those lines. The whole bit of the past decade or two was for women to "be a strong independent woman who doesn't need a man", and that message has been loudly shared through almost every single major institution. We've seen nothing similar for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/25 01:48 PM
3	How can men be desirable to women under late-stage capitalism? I don't think most people have a problem with that. I think it's absolutely fine that women want things from men. The problem is this doesn't seem reciprocal and I still have yet to get an answer from women on what they bring to the man. I've been told time and time again by everyone in my life, academia, politicians, media, and so on what I should be giving to women. I should provide (Meaning make more money than them), protect (Be willing to put my life or body on the line if danger comes), sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 10:34 PM
12	Women lose attraction to their partners due to familiarity faster than men to theirs due to aging. Both are more suited for monogamy imo. I don't think most women are happy being one of many and I don't think most men are happy about one guy having all of the women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 10:24 PM
10	Do you ever feel bad seeing how some people talk about struggling guys or even incls? Everybody's a victim of something. I try to extend this to many femcels that have similar issues (though admittedly it can be hard). If none of us want to show love to somebody (Not literal love, just in terms of loving your fellow human being) that doesn't deserve it, I'm not sure where we go from here. It's not as if these people just stop existing, they still do, and constantly shunning them only makes things worse. That makes things worse for all of us. Most incels (Men and women) that I'm a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 10:18 PM
1	do you think marriages where one partner is away for work often are more successful? Maybe I'm wrong on this as someone who's unmarried, but if I had to guess, people who view the success of their marriage based on their feelings are doomed to have an unhappy marriage. Again, could be wrong and I've never married, but I have been in long term relationships before and feelings don't last, they come and go, and you'll probably never have the honeymoon phase with all of the butterflies again. I think marriage is something that is much deeper between two people, and you love them re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 10:15 PM
3	There are more genuine blindside divorces than many women want to admit Again, I don’t know OP but why are you acting like men (and people in general) don’t use work as a way to avoid things in their life? First of all that's a heavy assumption about OP, but let's say you're right and he is using work as a way to avoid his wife. Why then is the blame put onto OP instead of his wife, who is MUCH more likely to be the problem in the relationship given that she cheated? If he is so stressed out by his wife that he'd prefer to work than be with her (Which as far as we k…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 10:30 AM
4	There are more genuine blindside divorces than many women want to admit it sounds like you prioritized work over her and ended up losing your marriage. Or she prioritized other men and an orgasm over her husband and destroyed their marriage? On what planet are we all of a sudden defending someone that's cheating? Dude was working 8 hours a day at least making all of the money, also did half the housework and childcare, while she sat on her ass hardly doing anything? Hint: 8 hours a day (Not even including commute nor the job being more stressful than housework) + ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/25 12:04 AM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Equality for women It says nothing about making sure men have equality with women You literally did	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 09:58 PM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Because you literally said that if women have more rights than men they should not try to seek equal rights. If women have more, they are not equal. I am not sure why this is so hard for you to understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 09:46 PM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Then if women have more rights then men they are not equal to men. I do not know how else I can say this. That is not equality, stop using that word and say you're only interested in your own gain. Stop using the word equality when you clearly do not mean it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 08:17 PM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Equal to what?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 07:02 PM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Then feminism isn't about equality for men and women, it's about superior rights for women. At least you're being honest about it now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/25 01:15 PM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Then if women begin to have more rights than men have, what should feminists do?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 10:29 PM
2	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Then what does "equality" mean? By what standard are you comparing women's rights to? What are they supposed to be equal too?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 04:48 PM
3	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind And if women have 12 rights and men have 10, what should feminists be doing to ensure equality between men and women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 04:47 PM
1	Do you agree with feminist leader Jessica Valenti that it is obscene to talk about young men falling behind when women have restricted access to abortion? I do agree that the reason is generally financial, as you said, men would usually end up being a principal than a teacher. The problem lies in the other part you mentioned, and I'm not sure there is any solution to this in the near future. Men choose their jobs based on the pay it makes. Why? It's because about 70% of society says it's very important for a man to be a provider, whereas about 30% of society says it's important for women to be a provider. This to me is one of the most unacknowledg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 04:22 PM
–	Have you been to therapy before? How did it go? I didn't say it was a "woman thing". I am saying that it's not something that works as well for men as it does women. For sure, sometimes (And for SOME GUYS) that might be what they need, but we tend to favor more instrumental support. This is saying nothing about how you just flat out ignored the bias against men and boys in therapy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 03:46 PM
-1	Do you agree with feminist leader Jessica Valenti that it is obscene to talk about young men falling behind when women have restricted access to abortion? Anyone else that sees this seriously needs to acknowledge that this guy did not read any of his articles, or just lacks reading comprehension or something. The one about Sweden was the worst offender where it literally just proves my point and says nothing in support of his. It literally just talks about how men are falling behind in education compared to women, nothing about colleges being "biased towards men" as he insinuates. It's literally the complete opposite. I believe this guy ChatGPT'd …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 03:44 PM
1	Do you agree with feminist leader Jessica Valenti that it is obscene to talk about young men falling behind when women have restricted access to abortion? Do you know where the attitude that men can't be raped comes from? The attitude that thinks a young man exploited or coerced into sex is actually lucky comes from? And what philosophy/movement points it out and pushed back against it? Actually yes, I do know where it comes from. It comes from feminist Mary P. Koss, a very influential public figure who has influenced laws and policies, and is one of the most cited sources in feminist literature. She was the one responsible for rape being defined …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 03:25 PM
3	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind I'm literally using your definition. If feminism means equality to women, and women being equal to men means having the same rights/etc as men, if women then receive MORE rights/privileges/etc than men then they by definition are not equal, and if feminism means women and men are equal (As you have defined it), then feminism should support men's rights so that they can be equal. It's a really simple logic trail.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 03:18 PM
6	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Did you literally just ignore everything that I said? If you are equal to men, then that means you have the same rights/privileges/responsibilities/etc as men. Do you disagree?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 12:02 PM
1	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind I'm sure you'd keep the same energy if society dictated that women should stay at home with the kids, do all of the household chores, keep their husband's belly full, give him sex when he wants, and so on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 12:01 PM
4	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind From my experience, people only ever bring up the "personal choice/personal responsibility" argument when they want to avoid discussing the societal effects of the issue at hand. For real man. We've heard feminists for so long complain about how "Society pressures them in to traditional gender roles that they don't want and that needs to change", but the second things start going into their favor they all of a sudden completely change and act as if it doesn't matter. I think these people just ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 12:00 PM
9	Feminist modern society has given women the freedom to choose non traditional paths, yet still expect men to uphold traditional roles while also compensating for the roles women left behind Feminism is for equality for women Clues in the name. No idea why you find that difficult to understand No, the clue is literally in your first sentence in the word "equal". If you are for equality for women, then you would by the literal definition be for equality for men, because if women are equal to men, it means they have no more and no less rights than men. If women have MORE rights than men, then they are not equal by definition, and so by the nature of your sentence you are not equal to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:57 AM
2	Have you been to therapy before? How did it go? Women tell guys to go to therapy because therapy works for women and then they'll assume it works for men. We're different, we're not broken women and we don't benefit from the same things you guys do. To be clear, I think there are certain types of therapists that are absolutely beneficial to men, but there is an extreme lack of care for men in therapy. For one, the vast majorities of psychologists are women, and secondly, it assumes (As I mentioned earlier) that men operate the same way women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:54 AM
2	Have you been to therapy before? How did it go? I mean this is anything in life. I think therapy today has an extreme amount of problems ESPECIALLY with boys (Seriously, the APA guidelines for boys are disgusting to me), but if you don't believe something will work out it usually doesn't. This happens with relationships too, hobbies, new experiences, and so on. We can see this at a mass scale too. If someone's favorite youtuber tells them a game or a movie is dogshit, the person watching is probably going to think the movie or game is dogshit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:49 AM
2	Have you been to therapy before? How did it go? The only thing keeping me from being vulnerable around women is...all the times I was vulnerable around women. Same with me. I have never had a problem being vulnerable around other guys, never had any bad experiences that I can think of, and I've told them some pretty dark shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:47 AM
11	Do you agree with feminist leader Jessica Valenti that it is obscene to talk about young men falling behind when women have restricted access to abortion? Okay first and foremost, men do not have bodily autonomy after all. If a guy gets raped, there is no "abortion access" at all whereas nearly every (Actually it might be every single state) has provisions for rape/incest. Men are still on the hook for child support, this actually applies to young boys too. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer) It's also not true that boys are falling behind in school because "they're just worse at it idk lol". We're graded lower than women for the s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:45 AM
1	If men benefitted women's lives then men wouldn't struggle in dating Three, actually. One my brother, the other my brother in law. I cooked for myself, cleaned, did my own laundry, went to the store, and so on, believe it or not. None of us ever had any problems. The sister that my brother in law is married to on the other hand did not work at all, almost never did laundry, and never cooked. Guy is in the military and comes home and works for 8 hours (At minimum, sometimes more), has to come home and do laundry, deal with his dogs, cook, etc. It's still like this…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/25 11:26 AM
3	“Who are you to tell others how they feel” because people with victim complexes lie. There should be gatekeeping. Homegirl you just responded to me in 2 minutes just like I'm doing to you lmao tf else we on this subreddit for. Sitting their refreshing your webpage every 5 minutes on your phone acting like you aren't the same as all of us is something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/25 05:24 PM
7	“Who are you to tell others how they feel” because people with victim complexes lie. There should be gatekeeping. Dude you're literally the exact same way as the rest of us, you spend as much time whining on this sub as anyone else, you're not levitating above everyone else lmao. We're all here to bitch and whine about something none of us have any control over and we all can probably be doing things much more productive, but we're here anyways. At least I can accept that about myself. You're already in the playpen too, you just haven't accepted it yet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/25 05:19 PM
1	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category And those actions are derided from the person's internal thoughts. I'm not sure why you're divorcing the two subjects from each other. Do your internal thoughts have influence on your actions? I'm not assuming anybody's internal thoughts, you can literally just ask them what they are. Yes, sometimes people can lie. I don’t know why you’re pretending you have any kind of special insight into knowing a persons intentions that are not determined by exactly the thing I evaluated. You just pretend yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/25 04:41 PM
10	Women cant complain when men dont care for them Will it help if I draw a picture in crayons to make it simpler for you to understand? I know reading is a little hard but that's okay.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 05:17 PM
9	Women cant complain when men dont care for them That's a teeny tiny minority, and they get actively dogpiled by the rest of feminists the moment they acknowledge men need help too, so we're still a looomg ways away from feminism being anywhere near the equality they claim to have. Yeah I completely agree. I mostly say it because there seems to be a slight trend from people in power. We finally got our own APA guidelines for instance whereas before we had none, so at least that's something right? That's what I thought until I read them and it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 05:15 PM
1	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category Let's say two people hit someone with a car. One of them does it accidentally, the other intentionally. The action is the exact same. Do you judge both of those people equally as murderers? I don't project anyone's "inner thoughts", the person I'm having a conversation with does because they say what their inner thoughts are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 05:11 PM
18	Women cant complain when men dont care for them Really? And what about women voting against male interests? Women receive far more in taxpayer funding than men despite men paying much more Women receive more funding for health issues like cancer despite men dying 5 years younger, and more often of cancer There is literally language in many states and statistics like the CDC that do not allow men to be raped by women because of feminists like Mary Koss that didn't want to make women look as bad (If a guy is forced to penetrate a woman, it's no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 05:07 PM
20	Women cant complain when men dont care for them Yup. For the past couple of decades, the common talking point was "Men are privileged and aren't suffering and women are underprivileged and are suffering, so men need to help us dismantle the patriarchy!!!" Now, they finally acknowledge that men are suffering (Some do at least), and the talking point is "Yeah men are suffering and lonely, but it's because of the patriarchy so men need to help us dismantle the patriarchy!!!" which in practice just means that we need to get more scholarships for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 04:48 PM
1	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category I didn't say I can read anyone's mind. Not sure where you got that from. I mean if you want to say that your thoughts have no influence on your actions I'm not sure what else to say to that. Do you believe it is fundamentally impossible to change someone's mind or something?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/25 04:40 PM
0	The hate on passport bros just proves that alot of women just dont want some men to be happy I could swear I read a study that took place somewhere in Europe (Can't remember where) that literally said that legalizing prostitution increased rates of sex trafficking because it created a larger demand, and it gave sex traffickers a legal means to conduct their operations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 07:58 PM
–	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category I also don’t care much about people’s internal thought behind their actions. This to me is a mistake. While you can have a similar action, it's important to understand the person's internal thoughts because their thoughts are what dictates their actions. If you change their internal thoughts, you change the action. This is what so much of therapy is based on too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 07:53 PM
2	If men benefitted women's lives then men wouldn't struggle in dating That doesn't reflect statistics (Most people who get married stay married, the "50% get divorced" stat is heavily misleading), nor does it mean that they themselves are also going to get divorced or have a child out of wedlock. It's not as if this is something out of our control. We can find a partner that has common goals/values/etc, and we can be smart about our behavior (Don't have a bunch of casual sex, take birth control, wear a condom, and so on). That doesn't mean the chance is 0, but it …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 07:50 PM
12	If men benefitted women's lives then men wouldn't struggle in dating I think this is an example of some women not working through their cognitive biases (That get HEAVILY amplified by social media), and then reflecting their prior bad experiences or stories they saw on social media (Someone here on this thread literally mentioned stories on social media as a reason) onto any guy that they see, and then they blame men for this. There's just an utter lack of accountability to work through your own biases from these types of women. I think men can have the same cogn…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 04:18 PM
7	Despite its history, women are the major winners of polygamy and average men are the losers. It might be statistically that married men tend to make more money so they end up paying more in taxes, and it's usually the marriage that both enables and forces them to make more money (They have to make more money to provide as their wife has children and has to take off of work, but they also may have more time to work since the wife might be taking care of the household duties). I don't actually know though, this is just me guessing but it seems to make sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 04:08 PM
–	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category And a lot of men will likely assume you were hooking up with random guys anyways, regardless of whether it’s true. . Yeah I think people just get a ton of cognitive biases either from their own behaviors, previous negative experiences, and usually way too much social media that amplifies these types of distortions in our minds. Well, it takes both sides doing that, and mutual deescalation is hard. I stayed out of hookup culture, and men generally avoided me to chase after other women who out out…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 03:47 PM
–	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category A car crash is actually a perfect analogy. If you're someone who constantly weaves in and out of traffic and goes 30MPH over the speed limit, you're much more likely to crash than someone who's properly signaling, going the flow of traffic, constantly scans for danger, and so on. The divorce statistics have a similar problem where averages also factor in the psychopaths doing 100mph on a 25 along with someone who's being cautious and aware. You yourself do not have to have a 30-40% chance of div…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 03:43 PM
1	Introverted men are boring to most women (even introverted women) Edit: Sorry didn't realize this was so long lol, this is just something I enjoy talking about and I go a little overboard sometimes. Unfortunately we're always going to have assholes in our lives that literally do not care, but I think that's just something we have to deal with in this day and age. Those aren't the type of people we'd want to be in relationships though (At least I don't), so at least they'll get weeded out if they're just outright being selfish and only wanting to talk about the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 03:38 PM
–	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category I don't think most people engage in casual sex, but that's the people that they're talking about and clearly there's enough for both men and women to be upset by it. There are lots of women out there that will have casual sex with guys that they have no intention of being in a relationship with, but they will wait with a guy that they see as relationship material because they want to make sure he's not just with her for sex. I don't think this is most women or anything like that, but I do think …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/25 03:25 PM
3	Do women even want to meet men? You can't raise a family on a single income. 90% of men do not make the amount of money needed for a woman to be a stay at home mom. They only way to raise a family is for the women to work and often times women are making the same or even more as the men, while also having to take on a shit ton of unpaid labor. I agree that most people can't raise a family on a single income, but it is not true that women are making the same amount as men, nor are they doing more labor than them. About 55% of r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 04:32 PM
6	Do women even want to meet men? Women are certainly not expected to work, at least not nearly to the same degree as men are. Most guys are perfectly fine with their woman having a 30,000/year job or something part time. 70% of adults said it's important for a man to be able to provide, whereas 30% say it's important for women to provide. How often are women asked to take a high stress software engineer job that makes more money, or a construction job with tons of overtime? Not very often. I almost NEVER see anybody telling wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 04:11 PM
6	Do women even want to meet men? This is very true. The fact that there's a "big push to be happily single" implies that they're unhappy being single, otherwise you wouldn't need a big push. It seems like both men and women (Not all, there's always exceptions that genuinely are happy) that say they're happy single have actually just given up on relationships, which is separate from being happy alone. A happy relationship is looked at as something that's unattainable to these people, so why bother, instead of something that's re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 04:03 PM
4	Introverted men are boring to most women (even introverted women) I would say authentic is a better word than polarizing, and also to actually have an idea of your thoughts on things. Polarizing at the very least means you're being authentic and know who you are and what you believe (Which is more attractive), but telling people to explicitly be more polarizing can just lead to people being polarizing for it's own sake instead of them genuinely having the beliefs they have. So many people these days are on social media so much and their entire worldview is bas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 04:00 PM
2	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category I'm perfectly fine with you having those standards. I'd also ask what you yourself bring to the table though. What makes you an asset and not a liability? I'm not asking to be rude either I'm genuinely curious because I usually don't hear anyone saying that women need to be "an asset" in a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 03:53 PM
2	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category The 50% statistic is actually wrong, and factors in serial divorcers (People who get divorced once often do it third/fourth/fifth times inflating the stats), the actual stat is somewhere around 30-40% of first time marriages. Additionally, just because that's what the average is does not mean that you in your marriage have a 30-40% chance of getting divorce. You can immensely improve those odds by getting with someone that has similar goals and values to you, and by making sure you each nurture …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 03:51 PM
5	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category Tbh I think almost all of these problems can be traced back to hookup culture. I know as a guy I'd definitely feel bad if a woman was hooking up with a bunch of random guys, but arbitrarily didn't want to have sex with me because I was seen as "relationship material" instead of "hookup material". Definitely makes you feel worse than the other people. I also hear from women that they absolutely despise being used for sex with someone afraid to commit. If people were willing to wait for sex until …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 03:49 PM
8	In online debate, women insist "Husband Material" always encompasses "Hookup Material", but in real life it's a distinct category You want to valued for your bodies? Weird. Women want to be valued as best friends. They like the sex part too I guess. Women absolutely want to be valued for their bodies too, lol. It's just not said as much because guys already do this for the most part. Go look at many women that have gotten rejected for sex from her husband or boyfriend/etc. It isn't pretty. Often times the guy will just be called gay or they will go ape shit wondering what is wrong with them or their partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 03:44 PM
1	Many men’s dating problems come from expecting women to act like men. Why are you seeking my personal approval for what you want that is “societally accepted”? I don’t even understand what you’re asking me to “agree with”—Iike are you asking if it’s ok if you want a woman who is submissive? I really do not care about your personal preferences as long as you don’t like commit a crime. You can want what you want. You listed a whole bunch of requirements for men— does it bother you that I did not go for a man that fulfilled all of those? God forbid I be curious about…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/25 02:53 PM
1	Do You Think Women Are Lying About Their Safety Concerns? Know what I respect that	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 09:41 PM
1	Do You Think Women Are Lying About Their Safety Concerns? You think other cultures have a higher tolerance for rape. Would you rather be in front of 20 random guys in America or 20 random guys in Afghanistan?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 01:36 PM
1	Do You Think Women Are Lying About Their Safety Concerns? I didn't see him say anything of the sort, what he said was that women tend to vote for policies like bringing over immigrants from countries that have a much higher cultural acceptance for rape. I don't think it's deniable that many places in the Middle East are MUCH more accepting of SA and rape. You can disagree with him on this, but I don't see where he said that "white men never rape". He didn't even bring up race at all until you mentioned it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 01:20 PM
1	Women can't be victims of the male gaze, and also don't care about male validation at same time. Then that is not a patriarchy. We literally live in a society where people vote for who they want (At least in the US and most western countries), and women make up the majority of voters. There are many women in power too who also benefit, which clearly means that it benefits "a small group of people" and not just "a small group of men" which means this is not a patriarchy. I swear, people throw out this buzz word with absolutely no definition except what they want it to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 01:14 PM
2	Do You Think Women Are Lying About Their Safety Concerns? they were white and white men like you excused them You literally haven't even met this guy. Why are you blaming him for something he never said or did?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 01:10 PM
3	Many men’s dating problems come from expecting women to act like men. Can you name me at least a couple of societally expected standards that women have in a relationships that you agree with? Again, I've already listed the standards we have for men. What about women?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/25 12:53 PM
2	Many men’s dating problems come from expecting women to act like men. I don't. I still don't like selfishness in society even if I can choose not to interact with those people and I don't think it makes anyone better, nor do I think we should simply act as if these things are okay. It would be nice if people talked about this anywhere close to the level that they talk about "loser men and incels", but again reciprocity is too high of a demand for people these days I guess.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/25 02:57 PM
22	Many men’s dating problems come from expecting women to act like men. Okay but even if you jump through all of those hoops as a guy, what are you getting for it? This is a question that I've been asking lately and I have yet to get an answer. The most I get is something extremely vague like "She's gonna be interested and put effort into you!!" without any idea of what that means. Meanwhile as men we get a laundry list of things we have to do. Be emotionally intelligent, make the same if not more money than them (Usually more in most relationships), protect them, p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 09:05 PM
2	lusting after a body =/= unconditional love I'm assuming you meant "no longer find attractive"? Old people do this all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 08:49 PM
2	We don't really need more third places, we just need to treat each other better. Oh absolutely I spoil my niece and nephew lol. My niece always tries to play my piano (She's 3) and she literally slams down the keys and starts shaking like she's playing in a church lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 08:46 PM
1	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2023/02/02/the-who-where-and-why-of-online-dating-in-the-u-s/ 28 % of straight men (And 13% of women) were searching for casual sex on dating apps. Slightly higher than the 1/5th, but there's multiple different sources that I've seen on this and I also used this same link in a separate conversation so I'm using it here. It hovers from 20%-30% from most of the sources I've seen. Do you have any research yourself that shows the majority of people (men or women)…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 02:10 PM
0	Despite claiming that women have better friendships women are as lonly as men What does "Choosing better" mean to you? What are your standards, and please be specific and not vague.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 11:43 AM
11	We don't really need more third places, we just need to treat each other better. An important aspect of the loneliness epidemic that doesn't get talked about much is that friends start to hang out less and less with each other because they start to get married and have kids, which eats up a lot of your free time. If you're the last one in your social circle to stay single then yeah of course you will feel left out. Families are the most natural way to feel like you're a part of a community, not friendships. For real man. People assume it's just due to a lack of effort or som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/25 11:40 AM
3	Modern hookup culture makes women jaded and have unrealistic expectations of men She told me to tell this to you so I'm doing it because it amuses me. Can't we just say that both parties should change their behaviors? Women complaining that the guy just used them for sex should instead look for someone with similar values and wait to have sex. Men should not pump and dump women either. Really this can all be summed up by hook up culture and casual sex being terribly destructive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/25 05:10 PM
3	Modern hookup culture makes women jaded and have unrealistic expectations of men Okay I will actually	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/25 05:10 PM
9	Modern hookup culture makes women jaded and have unrealistic expectations of men Can't we just say that both parties should change their behaviors? Women complaining that the guy just used them for sex should instead look for someone with similar values and wait to have sex. Men should not pump and dump women either. Really this can all be summed up by hook up culture and casual sex being terribly destructive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/25 01:56 AM
1	Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocrites I didn't "start it," I responded to specific things you said bit-by-bit. You are the one who centered your comment around yourself, and then you get pissy when I address how your opinions are meaningless to anyone who isn't you Hey I'm not pissy wtf I was laughing when I was typing it :( I can't help myself sometimes. How am I supposed to respond to a comment entirely about you without addressing the fact that all of those things are just about you? Then why are you even on here to begin with if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 10:23 PM
0	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? Women are getting more lonely compared to prior times, it's just that men are more lonely. I don't think it has a lot to do with relationships, it's actually about even between men and women (The oft cited Pew statistic that says otherwise was an outlier and no other survey showed the same results). My biggest problem with male loneliness is that there's a ton of men's spaces that have just been killed out (All of a sudden the Boy Scouts is no longer the boy scouts and yet we still have a girl s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 10:21 PM
–	Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocrites Hey you started it don't be surprised that I gave you back the same energy. Sassing at me like somebody's auntie and expecting someone not to give you back the same. I don't actually think you need therapy I just said that shit because it made me laugh. The gist of my reply is that "You don't have to care about my opinions, just don't complain about how bad men are on social media when you have superficial standards".	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 10:09 PM
2	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? So you made that shit the fuck up. That goes hard tbh I respect it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 10:04 PM
–	Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocrites Lmao I knew that shit would strike a nerve had to do it to em. So how's your day been? I had some spaghetti. I always like to talk to people that start raging at me about random shit because it's funny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 09:55 PM
5	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? Dude this literally has nothing to do with what we mentioned. I hardly even want that shit in my browser history. You didn't even move the goalposts, you just switched to a different sport entirely. Again, show me the statistic that most girls are having casual sex. Don't change the subject, show me where you got your information from or just say you were wrong. It is fine to be wrong about something. I am probably the most anti-feminist/etc etc person on this subreddit (just look at my post his…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 09:52 PM
–	Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocrites Okay first of all why are you coming at me with all this attitude when I was perfectly reasonable when I was talking to you? This is too much emotional labor for me to handle and you should be taking up your issues with a therapist instead of myself. Work on your emotional intelligence instead of trauma dumping on random people. I've absolutely seen it argued that female consent shouldn't matter, and it's quite bold of you to presume no one has ever advocated anything of the sort You can always …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 09:49 PM
7	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? Surely you'd be able to show me where you got this statistic from, right? And surely it would be an actual study and not just "your own experiences", or something you saw on social media, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 07:14 PM
0	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? The problem is that our own experiences are very prone to bias. My understanding is that (At least on dating apps), only 1/5th of people are looking for hookups, and the vast majority of people do not have more than a couple of sexual partners in their entire lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 07:13 PM
1	Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocrites Additionally, the respect of bodily autonomy and the need to consent to sex and relationships isn't something that unilaterally benefits women like some men here act like. I assure you, you also benefit from being able to live your life without taking unwanted cock or munching menopausal coochie in the name of "socialist values." You also have "advantages" by not having to pair up with people you don't want to I have no idea why y'all pretend like bodily autonomy only benefits women, it's really…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 07:08 PM
6	How important is romantic love as part of human livelihood? I think it's worth mentioning that this doesn't mean they're happier unmarried, they're just happier than being in a perceived bad relationship (I use the word perceived because I think a lot of people are far to quick to get divorced instead of work through their problems but I digress). My understanding is that people are still overall happiest when they're in a good marriage. I don't think it's a good thing to tell people being single is better than marriage, we should instead encourage peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 06:59 PM
8	Why do men here cry about Casual sex? Most people do not have casual sex. I think this idea is just one of those things that social media amplifies so heavily that it seems like it's more common than it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/25 06:56 PM
1	Men are seen and treated as the 'Prize' Great, so what are the guys supposed to provide to the relationship, and what do you provide to the relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/25 11:04 PM
1	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity But we don't know the reason the patient commits domestic violence. They're rushing to an assumption that men abusing women = internal beliefs about masculinity when we just do not know the reason for it. There could be so much different reasons that it happens. They could have been abused themselves as a child, they may have never been taught how to properly control themselves, it could be anything and instantly assuming that it's because of "traditional masculinity" reeks of propaganda not bas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 05:56 PM
7	Why are you in this sub ? And what make you stay there ? Same tbh. The honesty from people is actually refreshing and kind of hilarious at some times. At the very least I feel like I won't be banned for voicing my opinions. I was talking to a woman who randomly described that she was a narcissist and it was fucking hilarious and we ended up talking about random shit in medieval times being cool for no reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 01:51 AM
5	“Women should take accountability more” until it inconveniences men. Well you'd think "choosing better" would entail finding a person with similar values, goals, and ambitions and someone on a similar journey but instead for some reason you guys took "choosing better" to mean find a guy with 6 pack 6 feet tall and 6 figures. Seriously I'm not sure how you guys decided to go for the most superficial traits instead of things that matter. I myself have 0 problem at all if a woman wants to wait for sex (I would too), wants a guy that actually has a plan for life, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 01:47 AM
2	“Women should take accountability more” until it inconveniences men. So true. Also love the name btw W character	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 01:42 AM
1	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity I don’t think you understand how intrinsic violence is to masculinity. Who were the hunters of old times? Who plays the most physical sports? Who runs the MMA, WWE, and other boxing organizations? What do boys do with their friends? What demographic accounts for 95% of domestic abuse cases? Lol it's time for you to double check those stats big dawg. It's actually about 50/50 between men and women for cases of domestic violence. Most domestic violence relationships are reciprocal (Both people abu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 01:36 AM
1	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity Can you give me a page/line citation from the APA guidelines for where it says "boys struggling today means that women are hurting"? You put that in quotation marks in your original comment. Idc what that YouTube video says, I suspect you bring her up because the APA guidelines don't say that... and neither does she in the quotes you provided. No, it's because she put it in the video. I also said that I don't expect you to watch it so I'm not blaming you for that, but I didn't come up with this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 01:02 AM
0	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity What do you think traditional masculinity is then? Holding the door for your madam and bringing her roses on her birthday after coming back from war? Chivalry would be one of them, yes. Along with principles of duty, self-sacrifice, higher propensity to take risks, higher levels of competitiveness, and so on. You can't just sit here and say that "masculinity is every trait that I think is bad". It is absolutely wild to say that anti-femininity is traditional masculinity. That is insane and I'm n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/25 12:41 AM
2	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity I gotta do everything for you good lord you want me to hold your dick while you pee too? Let me go to the comment literally one post above this one and copy/paste it for you. The other commenter didn't even say he believed what I did. I'll just ctrl-c ctrl-v as you mentioned since I shouldn't have assumed better of you. https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf Right here. I actually watched a youtube series by a registered psychologist, I don't expect anyone to watch an …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 12:44 AM
1	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity Luckily for you and unluckily for me the thing I'm whining about does exist and if you literally just took half a second to type in "APA guidelines for boys" or just ask me for them like the other person did you'd have an answer instead of just assuming I made something up. You can check my other comment because I don't want to retype it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 12:33 AM
5	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf Right here. I actually watched a youtube series by a registered psychologist, I don't expect anyone to watch an hour or so long youtube series but if anyone else is curious I'll link her channel. She explains my position far better than I can. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8SMZeyXUw&list=PLAZ5VoWNKT3Mv9DQIUlXIp7ohmnu4wz44 One of the quotes is as follows, but there's absolutely tons of examples along the same lines: "Although t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/25 12:32 AM
3	Hot take for men struggling in dating: "Get better or get bitter". If you're bitter you don't really want it (or you are a bit cheap) and you should change your perspective What would you personally want? Not even trying to be antagonistic I'm curious what people have to say.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 03:15 PM
2	Hot take for men struggling in dating: "Get better or get bitter". If you're bitter you don't really want it (or you are a bit cheap) and you should change your perspective Two questions. What responsibilities do you think the man has in the relationship? What responsibilities do you think the woman has in the relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 02:11 PM
0	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity Ok. You just want to rant about things that have zero to do with the OP and how ridiculous it was, that's fine. You literally said that feminists have "no power over you" and that we're "angry with them for no reason". I'm responding to your post. Did you read the entire link you posted or just that one single quote without context? What is says makes a lot of sense for the mental health of men. Forcing men who don't fall naturally into the masculine box to pretend to be fucks a lot of men up. N…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 02:08 PM
-1	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity Are you seriously going to pretend that academia isn't utterly infested with feminism? The APA literally claims that "traditional masculinity" is harmful and destructive to men which just isn't true if you actually examine it. You cannot even be a student of psychology without subscribing to the same beliefs that they do, you will literally be failed if you do not believe these concepts. Here's the direct quote from the APA, as well as the guidelines. https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 10:46 AM
15	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity Probably the ones in academia like the APA where their guidelines to therapists for boys are literally just talking about how "Boys struggling today means that women are hurting" and about how evil traditional masculinity is and how we need to change that. We are not cared about because we're humans like women are, we're cared about insofar as it affects women, and that's what most of the "healthy masculinity" definitions seem to follow from what I've seen. Things like emotional stoicism, higher…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 10:35 AM
2	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves So men faced a small amount of resistance and then gave up? That's the fault of anyone else. That's just men giving up. Literally what are you talking about? I just said a woman got doxxed and threatened by a bunch of radical feminists and your first thought is "Hah, what a small amount of resistance". We HAVE been trying to ask for help for years. People didn't want to listen, so now we have Andrew Tate and everybody's shocked. I'm on a message board with hundreds of male teachers. And hundreds…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 10:19 AM
2	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves I've already answered in another comment about why men that want to be stay at home parents or lower income professions like teachers aren't statistically as desirable so I won't go into that here. Guess what? Men did try to start those programs. For instance, domestic violence at all levels of violence affects men and women at equal rates. Most domestic violence are reciprocal (Both parties fight), but in non reciprocal DV situations (Only one party is abusing the other) the offender was a woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 01:34 AM
2	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves I didn't once say that men weren't allowed to do that, I said that women want a guy with a similar or higher income than them (Usually higher), and so a male teacher won't have as much luck. That does not mean no male teacher will be in a relationship. I'm not sure how you conclude that from what I said. It just means that statistically they're less desirable since they make less money, which can explain why men don't go into fields like that as much. Seriously, what is it with people here on Re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/25 01:26 AM
4	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves Are you seriously comparing being a stay at home spouse or a part time job to a drug addict? Lmfao. Women are ALLOWED to do that if that's what they choose. Again, they are allowed to work a high paying job, a low paying job, be a stay at home parent, or work part time if they want. They can choose and none of those decisions are denigrated (Except apparently by you in equating them to being a drug addict). We frequently bring up the amount of work stay at home mothers do in society. It isn't "m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 07:22 PM
4	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity I have absolutely 0 problem with him crying. The day after his father died, I told him I'd ask him once what he'd like for me to do, and he told me that he'd bring it up on his own if he wanted to talk and that he just wanted the rest of his time to be normal as if it had never happened. This was during the funeral weeks later. He already had a ton of people crying with him and it was a little overwhelming for him to have 40 people coming up to him to do the same (Yes, it was around that number,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 07:10 PM
3	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity Oh I absolutely gave him a hug. It's just that since it was at the funeral, everyone else was already crying with him and I as his closest friend felt the need to cheer him up instead. I literally just gave him a hug, told him that someone had to cheer his dumbass up, and he just looked back at me and started laughing and at the very least was able to enjoy the companionship of his family and friends. He's not the type of guy that really likes that type of stuff and he expressed it to me. He jus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 07:02 PM
2	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves I don't think I ever said people weren't "allowed" to do it. I think it's very disingenuous though to deny the effect that society accepting something that you do, ESPECIALLY with something like romance which most people (Both men and women) heavily desire. Sure, it's possible for men to become teachers and many do, but when you're seen as a "loser man" for not making more than 40-50k it's not exactly a strong incentive for men to do it and it's heavily discouraging for men that do take lower pa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 05:25 PM
1	What is the point of dating or getting into a committed relationship with men? Porn has nothing to do with "wanting a better woman" or something like that. It's similar to any other addiction, like gaming or something. It's an easily accessible thing that gives us a fuck ton of dopamine all at once (I believe every part of your brain is activated during sex which porn simulates, so it makes sense why it's so addicting), while also suppressing negative emotions. One of the most common correlations with porn is meaninglessness in life. Nothing to do with "wanting different w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 05:22 PM
3	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves I haven't downvoted you at all. Once again, you're continously ignoring my point that we as a society have made it far more socially acceptable for women to be a part of the workforce and make differing life decisions that are or aren't in line with a traditionally feminine role. We quite literally denigrate men for pushing back against this. They have quite literally pushed back on men that don't approve of this change. You can't tell me you haven't seen the myriad of people saying that men who…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 05:10 PM
1	Hot take: (CMV) The "Healthy Masculinity" feminism pushes is more toxic than the toxic masculinity It's extremely annoying to see how feminism tends to utterly disregard many of the positive aspects of masculinity and only focus on the negatives. They will say that emotional stoicism is bad (Like in the APA guidelines, also note that true stoicism is not emotional suppression but I digress) categorically, but completely ignore there's many times where our emotions can hinder us from doing what needs to be done. When my best friends dad died who I was also close to, I wanted to start completel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 05:03 PM
6	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves This is not true. Most people in general, including women, want to be in relationships. It is literally one of the largest biological drivers we have for all of human history and even prior to that. Not only that, people are typically much happier and earn far more in marriages. This idea that women are just happier single in general isn't true. While there's certainly exceptions, it is not the rule that women don't care about relationships either. Again, I'll point out how heavy that society ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 04:52 PM
10	Women expect men to deconstruct male gender norms, but aren't willing to break away from normative femininity themselves I mean we've spent the past few decades lecturing men on how wanting a stay at home or traditional wife means you just want a "bang maid chained to the stove", and how we need to accept women at any size. We've consistently encouraged women to enter into the job market or follow whichever passion they have while we've not done the same for men at all. Are we ever going to see similar movements for a guy to be a stay at home dad, or a movement for women to start accepting guys with lower paying j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/25 04:41 PM
3	"Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple store Lmfao that's literally what you've been doing this whole time. That's why you're on here and every other dating subreddit settle down auntie. I’m in a relationship but go off sis. With who lmfao God?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/25 02:26 PM
–	"Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple store I don’t need to approach men. Right, that's why you're on this subreddit complaining about men. You don't have nearly as many options as you think you do and you're mad about it which is why you're here. You're not any better than the rest of us and it's time you accept that, sorry to break it to you "my dear" lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/25 02:21 PM
–	"Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple store Because we're tired of people slandering, abusing, and humiliating men and rejecting any criticism under the guise of "safety". It's toxic mean girl behavior and I don't really care anymore. We're done with the emotional manipulation and guilt tripping. While I'm sure there are legitimate posts on there, there are many that aren't, and even the legitimate posts (Accusations of cheating, SA, so on) are mostly unverified. When women in these groups are more concerned about the guys dick size or sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/25 02:18 PM
–	"Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple store You haven't seen the pictures of the women on there looking like a bunch of trolls? It actually made me have more faith in the dating scene seeing that because it tells me the only people interested in this weird man hating/gossipy behavior are overweight girls mad at the world that I wouldn't have dated anyways. Seems like attractive women don't care about this stuff nearly as much.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/25 02:12 PM
–	"Women are not a monolith" but the Tea App is #1 at the Apple store So are you in need of an active man because you need fathering or something? Really just sounds like you're absolutely terrified of the possibility of rejection and you're trying to cover it up by saying "you need a man who initiates". God forbid you have to put in any semblance of effort.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/25 02:10 PM
7	Men are not inherently bigger losers today than they were in previous generations, there’s just finite amount of opportunity and by definition more men will lose. It's insane to me how this is the case and yet we still give women the vast, vast majority of incentives/scholarships/etc for work and higher education. Very frustrating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/25 08:38 PM
1	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? okay	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 05:31 PM
1	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? Bro it is crazy to me that some people refuse to do this. They're the exact people to say "men aint shit they only use me for sex and dont want anything real" well no shit, you selected them solely based on their profile pictures instead of actually looking for someone that wants a long term relationship. I'm not saying people can't lie, but I am saying that your odds will be a lot better if you at the very least read their profiles and see what their values are first instead of arbitrarily goin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 05:30 PM
1	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? So? It doesn’t matter if you think women are illogical and dumb for not getting lusty when they see a picture of a dead carp on a string. Men aren't posting fish pictures to get you guys aroused it's just a picture of them enjoying themselves. It's like a girl holding up a sweater she crocheted and taking a picture with it. I don't personally crochet but I'm glad that she's got a hobby and enjoys what she's doing, I'm not gonna sit there pressed about it. And apparently quite a few women in apps…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 02:12 AM
3	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? I don't even really disagree with you but I think most people don't actually want superficial relationships and we simply work with the tools that we have. I don't think that means we have to devolve our thinking to what the owners of the apps want, but I think that's a losing battle to fight unfortunately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 11:20 PM
3	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? It’s a thing for some. I’m not claiming it’s the primary reason women aren’t digging your fish photos. Just that there are also downsides to dating people with some hobbies. More importantly, you’re not going to ever be able to argue women into thinking giant rubber galoshes and suspenders are super hot. They’re not. I mean you don't have to wear suspenders when you're fishing I don't think anyone's talking about someone having poor taste in dress. Not sure if this is just an analogy I'm missing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 11:18 PM
2	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? It doesn't really make sense though to randomly go off of people using generic photos as if the vast majority of people don't use generic photos (Hence why we refer to them as generic). Especially if you're a woman on a dating app you can be very selective. Go for the people who actually do have decent bios in my opinion. I think it's a reasonable ask to have something relevant about who you are and what you want on there instead of just superficially asking for "creative photos and hobbies". It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 10:58 PM
4	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? I agree that the apps are terrible but at the same time maybe part of the reason why the apps are terrible is that people are swiping based on completely superficial things instead of things that are actually important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 10:53 PM
3	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? I don't take fish pictures or even go fishing that much or anything, but this is just bizarre to me. Most people's pictures don't "stand out". They're just normal selfies of normal people doing normal things. Most people quite literally cannot stand out and deducing people's entire personalities and lives based off of their dating profile pictures is a terrible thing to do imo. There are far more important things to be concerned with than whether or not someone has unique hobbies. It would be li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 10:24 PM
3	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? Fishing is also one of those hobbies that often involves long trips away from their wife and kids so he can drink beer all day with dudes in an ice hut or whatever while she stays home alone with the kids. Fun. This isn't even true. I maybe go once every couple months, but I am literally just gone for a few hours. Not like people fishing are just staying on the ocean for weeks at a time, not sure where this comes from. It's also extremely bizarre for me to see so many posts here about how women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 10:20 PM
1	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? And yet you still spend the exact same amount of time as the rest of us on Reddit making posts complaining about men 24/7. Lmao stop acting like you're levitating above the rest of us. I don't even really fish but good lord some of you have the most bizarre standards. God forbid a dude has a hobby and enjoys it, he wouldn't be able to sit there managing your anger from doomscrolling reddit all day if he did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 10:16 PM
5	Why do women seem to dislike men who like fishing? It means he is not very creative with his photos. Fishing photos are very stereotypical. (Men's fishing photos = Women's Club Bathroom Mirror Selfie Photos) Who cares? Imagine refusing to date someone because they're "not creative with their photos". What are these bizarre standards? Aren't there way more important things like having similar values, goals, ambitions, and so on? It's these weird things that some people get so hung up on that has no bearing on how they'd be in a relationship that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/25 10:12 PM
1	When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic" It would probably be difficult for us, but I imagine they'd probably be somewhat hardened to it a bit. Anyway yeah it's crazy. We have archaeological evidence of things like combs from 5,000 years ago. Literally 5,000 years ago there was some woman combing her hair not much differently from the woman in that video. Always crazy to think about for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 09:21 PM
3	When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic" I would not say it was "not that far from modern life" for anyone in medieval times, but it was almost certainly mundane for the vast majority of people, both men and women. You have to remember that 1. Medieval peasants generally could not read or write, so we don't have a whole lot of recordings of them and 2. When people do write, it's often not about the mundane. This skews the way that we look back on history because the only real information we get is during "interesting" times, which ofte…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/25 12:42 AM
2	When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic" I mean, I’m pretty detached from human emotion and I lack a lot of empathy because I’m a narcissist.. alright theoretically I see what your saying but if I loved my daughter OBJECTIVELY I wouldn’t marry her off at all young age at all ever for any reason. I mean I'm not saying arranged marriages are good, but I am saying they're heavily misunderstood. Again, both daughter and son had the right to refuse the marriage if they wished. I'd have to imagine many would actually be completely fine with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/25 08:08 AM
3	When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic" This is not true. They absolutely wanted good lives for their daughters and they loved their children the same as we do. Do you think that we just started caring and loving our children within the past 100-200 years or so or something? In fact, marriages (Including arranged marriages!!!) required mutual consent in medieval times due to the church, as Christianity was obviously everything to them, which means the church also is. Now this was ignored by some, but the exception does not prove the r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/25 07:25 AM
5	When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic" No, they were not. This is an extremely common misconception about medieval people in general to be honest. They were mostly normal people. You weren't allowed to rape, steal, etc etc. There were certainly double standards in terms of the way laws were enforced (The nobility would not get as high of a punishment as the average peasant for instance), but they definitely did not brutalize people. They were just normal people same as us, living only in a different time. You have to remember the med…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/25 04:02 AM
1	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise Yeah that's great as long as it's equal I don't really have a problem with it, was moreso saying this because the OP had said this and I assumed you agreed with it, but it seems like you don't so all good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 10:20 PM
1	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful I'm not suggesting that, the statistics are, or at the very least they say that men are victims of sexual assault/rape almost as often as women are. As I said, we flat out do not get counted in many of these statistics if we're forced to penetrate someone. It was a shock to me too, believe me. Same with domestic abuse. It's actually far more common (About 70% more likely to be exact) for a women to be the sole abuser in a relationship, though most domestic abuse situations are reciprocal (both p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 10:19 PM
1	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful Are these the same figures from RAINN? I'm quite sure that it was there or somewhere similar that showed the sexual assault rate for men was only slightly less than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:14 PM
12	When men face any problems disproportionally, It's framed as being their own fault. Whereas with women, it's always "systemic" This is not true. I'm not sure where people get this idea about medieval people that everybody was just psychotic and misogynist and that peasants had terrible lives and whatnot. Great lives? Not really, they still lived hundreds of years ago. Peasant women were treated about the same as peasant men, just with more traditional gender roles. Women of nobility weren't "valuable for alliances and breeding". The monarchs and nobility still loved their daughters and wanted good lives for them, same a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 03:00 PM
2	I think men act and feel more entitled to romantic success than they realise I mean obviously you agree with randomly getting free meals. I'm absolutely shocked that you're doing things within your best interest. I don't think anyone should feel entitled to sex or anything like that, but is there any reciprocity at all (Not talking about sex, moreso talking about getting your own credit card out or something else) from the woman? You are not "the table", you are not privileging us by gracing us with your presence. We are both equal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/25 02:53 PM
2	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful Did you just flat out not read what I said? The reason the figure is so low for men is because these statistics do not allow men to be raped. If a girl forces a man to penetrate her, that does not count as rape, because rape is defined as something where the person must be penetrated. If you actually do count men as being forced to penetrate, this number changes, and it showed that the number is much higher than we believed, and within a 12 month period, the number was actually the same. I liter…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/25 05:18 PM
2	CMV: Western women choose to demonize masculinity due to past personal traumas with men I'm mostly being facetious because this is the exact same thing that you're doing, and now you're crying that I'm doing the same thing to you that you're doing to men. It's funny how you complain about how other people need to refer to their "real life experiences" instead of what they heard on the internet and then get mad the second someone does when it disagrees with you. We can go with actual evidence though instead of anecdotes since I find them meaningless, but I typically like to engage o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 09:39 PM
1	CMV: Western women choose to demonize masculinity due to past personal traumas with men Why are you denying men's lived experiences?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 09:22 PM
2	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful I mean the males bell's curve is more spread out. The smartest person on earth is probably a man the dumbest one is also probably one too. The problem is the dumb ones are more numerous. Most men are average though. I mean that's kind of the point as you said. Most men are average, meaning they might not be geniuses, but they're also not violent idiots. We cannot treat the average man based off of the dumbest idiots, nor should we treat them as the biggest geniuses. Treat each person as an indiv…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 09:13 PM
0	CMV: Western women choose to demonize masculinity due to past personal traumas with men Men have less work opportunities at those places because people assume that men are rapists/pedophiles/etc and that they shouldn't be working with children. This is a harmful stereotype about men that gives them less work opportunities. I don't see why it's so difficult for you to say this is wrong in both scenarios. It is wrong to stereotype women as bad drivers and deny them work opportunities, it is also wrong to stereotype men as rapists and deny them work opportunities. You do not have to d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 09:03 PM
1	CMV: Western women choose to demonize masculinity due to past personal traumas with men But no man is going to have less work opportunities because of those generalizations. Really? Like male teachers or daycare workers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:59 PM
-1	CMV: Western women choose to demonize masculinity due to past personal traumas with men Here, I've got one. Her name is Erin Pizzey. She set up many domestic violence shelters for women. When she found out that domestic violence against men is a huge problem as well, she then decided to do the same for men. She was attacked, doxxed, harrassed, and had multiple bomb threats against her by militant feminists for this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:56 PM
1	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful Two things : - Ratio. A minority of smart men invented those things. There are more dumb and violent than smart ones. Excuse me? There are far more men that have created air conditioners and homes and so on than were violent criminals. Far more men are invested in the betterment of society than not. The men who invented those things were not 'ecessarly nice to women. You can be a mysogynistic genius. So, we can pay for the services those dudes provide and not interact with them on an interperson…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:47 PM
2	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful While I did just use 30% as an example, convictions for violent crimes are not a reflection of the proportion of men that pose a threat to women. I mean you're using the 30% as an "example" to make a violent situation seem much more likely than it is when it's not even close. if the crimes are reported they are largely investigated by male police officers. They are not impartial. In fact where I live male police officers have been convicted of murder, kidnap and sexual assault of women. You're r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/25 08:40 PM
2	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful First of all dino chicken nuggets are goat tier, I know damn well you grub on them bitches too when you can't think of anything else to eat, but actually I made myself some nice roast chicken with a bunch of herbs, and some vegetables/potatos/etc. You're a normal wal mart american just like the rest of us and enjoy some dinosaur nuggets every now and then. Matter of fact I know you hungry what u gonna grub on later today for dinner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 08:22 PM
3	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful It's 3 paragraphs. Maybe I can get crayons for you next time and that would be easier to understand. God bless love you these conversations are hilarious to me I love seeing how unhinged some people get W conversation	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 08:16 PM
2	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful Yup that's about the response I expected. Everyone else can just look at this and see how unreasonable this person is being. Notice how she did not once acknowledge what I said, it's because she knows I'm right and that men have a done a ton for civilization that she happily indulges in. Also important to realize most women aren't like this. They don't hate men, they recognize that men have contributed a ton to society and value men, just as most men recognize the value that women provide to soc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 08:06 PM
1	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful Really? Your air conditioner wasn't invented by a man? Your house wasn't built by men? The entire technology that you're using to communicate with me and doomscroll 24/7 on Tiktok wasn't invented by men? The food that you're eating wasn't grown and produced by primarily men? How about the indoor lighting in your house, or electricity as a whole? Was that not invented by men? You have some serious reframing to do in your life when it comes to men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:57 PM
3	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful But it's not "30% of men". This is the problem that we have, the internet has cooked people's brains so much that they actively think it's anywhere even remotely close to that number. Only about 1% of men (In the US at least) have been convicted of a violent crime, the vast, vast majority of that violent crime is committed against other men, so it's even smaller for women. Women are responsible for the majority of infanticides. Imagine if I just refused to let women near my baby because of that?…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:53 PM
0	A genuine question for women who believe most men are misogynistic or harmful I really don't understand why some women tend to ignore all of the good that men do on here. Like great, I understand there's some evil men out there that do a lot of harm, but do you understand the massive amount of benefits that you have specifically because of men? We literally get to live in an air conditioned home, crying about the world problems from the comfort of our own home's in a nice bed with water that comes right to our house. If we're going to give men the "credit" of all the evil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:50 PM
1	Women would not make the decisions they want men to make if they were us And you choose high paying jobs because men are supposed to provide, at least that's what society says (Around 70% of US adults to be exact, only 30% said the same for women). It's a lot easier to say you'd rather be dad when you're under the assumption that you can pursuit your dream job. It's a much different thing when you're a guy working some high stress job, having to put OT in, and working your ass off at a job that you don't really like but you have to do because it puts food on the tabl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:39 PM
1	Why are modern woman so keen on "vetting" a man? Because "Choose better" for some reason now means "Choose a guy who makes a ton of money, is 6 foot tall, etc etc". It's just shallow things that people are looking for. Don't go for a guy who is an utter moron who does nothing but sit in their house all day, or a guy who is known to be a player, obviously. When men say "Choose better" they mean "Choose someone with similar values to you, has a plan for their lives, and has some ambitions and goals, and is kind and faithful". These are far more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/25 07:33 PM
2	The patriarchy isn't real How does that imply that there's a patriarchy? There's instances of discrimination against women, of course, and there's also instances of discrimination against men. It does not at all mean that we somehow live in a patriarchy, especially when we live in a democracy and women make up the majority of voters, at least in the US. I'm just going to copy/paste a comment I usually make on this because it's way too late at night for me to manually type it, so if something seems like it's random that's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/25 09:20 AM
6	Men are Love-Shy One of the "solutions" that's arguably the most effective that doesn't rely on other people's good graces is to have a vision for your life. Understandably, this is far easier said than done, but I think it's necessary (In every facet of life really, but also this one). A lot of young guys have absolutely zero vision or purpose for their life. The only "vision" they have is that which they see on the internet, which is a completely different person than they are, that is specifically curating th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/02/25 09:09 PM
1	Calling someone a creep if they don’t deserve it is bad all around There's exceptions, but I hope you understand we cannot read your mind. If as you mentioned you had your bachelorette sash and whatnot on, sure, I get it, but in your average circumstance, we're not clairvoyant. The whole reason behind a guy asking is because they don't know. I want to caveat again that I'm not speaking about people that can't take no for an answer, I'm not talking about someone who randomly comes up and gropes you, I'm not talking about the guy who came up to you at your party,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 06:42 AM
4	Calling someone a creep if they don’t deserve it is bad all around Being kind to others isn't low on the list, lol. I am not talking about people who actually are being creepy (Like touching, not listening after they're told no, etc), but if someone is just coming up to you and saying hello and asking for your number or something, it's not that hard to just say "No thank you" or something similar. If they don't accept that as an answer, sure, call them a creep, but there's absolutely no reason to be rude before someone's even given you a reason to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/25 06:31 AM