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| 1 | What Attracts Women: Looks, Money, StatusIt is to any self-assured man in tune with his masculinity. The issue with the OP is that he's clearly harbored resentment toward women over inability to play the "game" he speaks of. I don't think playing the "game" is inherently bad if you treat it as it is, a code of conduct to train yourself to be masculine. Respond to texts less frequently, for instance, trains him to be focused on tasks at hand rather than rush whimsically between things. "Spinning plates" reaffirms that there are options … | /r/RedPillWomen | 26/12/16 04:06 AM |
| 1 | He dumped meProbably outside the scope of this post but I've got to agree. Prompting systematic apoptosis to muffle a symptom most likely caused by a hormone imbalance is silly. | /r/RedPillWomen | 14/12/16 02:24 AM |
| 1 | What is a woman's purpose post-wall?For sure. Graceful aging is a very attractive trait, indicative of confidence and self-assurance | /r/RedPillWomen | 28/11/16 10:54 PM |
| 2 | What is a woman's purpose post-wall?This. I'm in my late 20's and I already find myself more annoyed than attracted to your average 22 year old girl. Sure, the youth is attractive, but I can't even fathom what we'd talk about at dinner or that'd she would have any real perspective on life outside her bubble. And that's not to knock people in their young 20's; I was the same way | /r/RedPillWomen | 28/11/16 12:47 PM |
| 1 | I'm seriously starting to believe women are better off dating men that are a little "out of their league" physically..Margot is a hard 9 with 10-potential based on personal preference. The jump up to 10 requires an especial level of subjectivity. I think Margot is belligerently sexy but I'd still go 9. Natalie Portman would be a 10 for me. | /r/RedPillWomen | 26/11/16 01:52 PM |
| 3 | I'm seriously starting to believe women are better off dating men that are a little "out of their league" physically..This one's easy. The two guys "below" you were letting their insecurities show, the latter using jealousy tactics to try to raise your perceived him image of him closer to you. The former was trying to lower your self-perceived image closer to him by sending out criticisms. It's a low-value male move. The only way a guy can date a girl at par or above him physically is through extreme confidence and emotional stoicism, maintaining a self-assured playfulness. Any sign of beta won't be well tolera… | /r/RedPillWomen | 26/11/16 01:47 PM |
| 1 | I'm a lazy undereducated trust fund baby....how can I become a RPW ?So true about the relationships finding us when we're not looking for it. I think it has to do with a carefree, satisfied indifference that comes with contentment with one's own life. In that state we exude confidence and stability, which is attractive. If you can't be happy alone, you can't be in a happy relationship | /r/RedPillWomen | 25/11/16 12:33 AM |
| 2 | How to loosen up a bit?Passion is contagious and a universally attractive trait for anyone to have. We associate playfulness, creativity, focused passion and energy as signs of youth and overall well-being. Passions make for great conversations and engagement. I don't know that there's anything higher on my list of attractive traits | /r/RedPillWomen | 25/11/16 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Pushing accidental beta orbiter back into friendshipNot a whole lot else you can do really. Sounds like you care for the guy, so there's probably an opportunity to help him, though you're obviously not obligated to. He needs to be able to tune in when a girl is or is not interested in him romantically so he can focus those efforts economically. While persistence can pay off, it has to be calculated and rationed. He's wasting his time and energy pursuing you. You're probably doing him a favor telling him straight up you're not interested romantica… | /r/RedPillWomen | 23/11/16 06:18 PM |
| 3 | F24 Friendzoned again, don't understand what I did wrong.Being positive and present is always attractive, regardless of gender. | /r/RedPillWomen | 11/11/16 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Why do they sleep all the time?Hm I'll look into that. I've noticed benefit from simply disengaging 30-60 min before I hit the hay. | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/16 10:51 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have disengaged from society or plan to do so?Yeah I mean I won't lie, I'm a lucky SOB for that one. The rest I bought myself. Saved up 1300 when I was 17 to buy my SG, so I know how much more rewarding those are. Got a kit on the way huh? Jam much? | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/16 10:50 AM |
| 1 | How many of you have disengaged from society or plan to do so?Haha. My uncle gifted it to me. Dude is like 70, loaded, buys guitars and doesn't really play them, so he decided to let me pick one... was a no-brainer | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/16 01:57 AM |
| 2 | How many of you have disengaged from society or plan to do so?I mean: any notable models, vintage? I play quite a bit. I'm in my late 20s so my collection isn't terribly impressive: 89 start, American special tele, Sg standard, es175, and a 1949 LG2 | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/16 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do they sleep all the time?Exercise and a clean meal about three hours before bed, screens off about three minutes before bed, teaspoon of raw honey slightly before, consistent bed time all worked for me. | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/16 12:59 AM |
| 2 | How many of you have disengaged from society or plan to do so?What kinda guitars ya got? | /r/MGTOW | 01/11/16 12:52 AM |
| 0 | Caving in...I learned about MGTOW roughly two hours ago and have spent that limited time bouncing between various sites dedicated to the topic, trying to fully understand its tenants. The one that eludes me the most is perfectly embodied in your post. I don't understand the point of not having good women around as long as it's convenient and mutually respectful. Sex is great and there are plenty of girls who can uphold conversation and shared interests. I've been what I would now consider MGTOW unknowingly … | /r/MGTOW | 31/10/16 11:39 PM |
| 3 | How to screen for childfree men?Flare says you're mid-20s, bud | /r/RedPillWomen | 25/10/16 11:15 PM |
| 1 | How to react when he cancelsYou've done more than your share of setting up plans. I would say to fall back and let him demonstrate his interest in you. I seriously question whether or not you two are "exclusive", as guys typically don't blow off girls their exclusive with (at least not in healthy relationships). He should still be pursuing and earning your affection. Dial it back and let him do that. If he doesn't, there's your answer | /r/RedPillWomen | 25/10/16 11:11 PM |
| 1 | Some observations about black women from a black womanIn my experience it's the same things that initially attract me to black women that end up causing me to not pursue them seriously: outgoing, somewhat brash, transparent, honest, testy. I'd say black girls make up at most 10% of the demo in the part of my city I hang in but compose like 50% of the instances I've been cold-approached at the bar. In that environment I'm stimulated, even flattered, by the advances and find it invariably leads to a good time. Afterwards, with a more relationship-foc… | /r/RedPillWomen | 17/10/16 04:41 PM |
| 1 | How to prevent thyself from becoming a "Plate"?This is the truth. There's not many things that turn a guy off faster than being chased by a girl. Whether it's biological or social conditioning, we want to be the pursuers. We want to feel like we're competing and earning the affection of a girl we're attracted to. Once my attraction is beginning to subside, being pestered and cornered by a girl causes what attraction remains to totally dissolve. The only thing that works is for the girl to pull off and let the guy again become the pursuer. If… | /r/RedPillWomen | 30/09/16 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Newbie here. What do you think of trying to get my ex back?Sounds like you're on the path to a better you, regardless of whether you and him get together. That's what it's all about at the end of the day. Best luck | /r/RedPillWomen | 16/09/16 09:38 PM |
| 14 | Newbie here. What do you think of trying to get my ex back?Do you have a sense of how receptive he would be to getting back with you? Have you talked to him about it? (sorry if I missed these details, I skimmed your post). The party idea seems over the top and inescapably awkward. If he's not trying to get back together it's astronomically awkward. I say keep any sort of in-person interactions between just you two. Did you say how long it's been since you broke up? If it hasn't been long, he's probably not had time to refresh his life and potential inte… | /r/RedPillWomen | 16/09/16 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Tips for first time daters?Laugh it off and be cute. The guy will honestly probably be attracted to your inexperience and maybe even be flattered by his relative special circumstance being on a date with you | /r/RedPillWomen | 16/09/16 04:35 AM |
| 2 | Tips for first time daters?Just know you'll most likely date many people before you find "the one", so do your best not to treat any person you do date as anything special. Sounds callus, but it's true. With that in mind, treat every date as an opportunity to have fun, get to know someone, get to know yourself. Go in without expectations and just aim to enjoy yourself. It'll help you before, during, and after the date. One more thing I'll add: as a guy, I can say an awkward, inexperienced isn't the end of the world. Guys … | /r/RedPillWomen | 15/09/16 11:36 PM |
| 1 | The great myth of male-female friendship.I'm honestly pretty good at that. On the first date I'm always taking mental notes of things she enjoys that I can incorporate for later dates (i.e. She likes horses, so I take her to the race track). I'm realistic about chemistry too. If it's not there I don't labor at dating that particular girl. I think it's mainly a function of dating girl off apps who are also dating a few diff people (same thing I do), me provoking deep and expansive convo that should be unraveled over months not weeks, an… | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/09/16 09:56 PM |
| 1 | The great myth of male-female friendship.Thoughtful response - thanks. That's pretty congruent with what I've heard and read elsewhere almost universally. It's likely a function of age too. I'm in my late 20s now and what worked in college and the bar scene isn't going to be as attractive with long term dating. With high frequency dating like on apps I likely need to dial it down | /r/RedPillWomen | 09/09/16 02:13 AM |
| 2 | The great myth of male-female friendship.I'm still working out the right middle ground between being mysterious and total no filter when it comes to the early stages of dating. My natural tendency is to go no filter: talk about sex, past relationships, politics, any possible topic that seems interesting given the arc of a conversation. It's worked a majority of the time I'd say, and by "worked" I mean I end up seeing the girl again and often having sex relatively early. It does seem though they the interest between us tapers off rather… | /r/RedPillWomen | 08/09/16 11:04 PM |
| 1 | High SMV guys and N-counts. What is your ideal #?I'm sure it does varies person to person. Anecdotally speaking, I'd say there's been maybe three girls out of ~40 I've been with that were real loose the first time. Otherwise by the third time if at all. There's been a girl down for anal the first time and there's been more than a couple girls who would have slapped me over a thumb in the ass. | /r/RedPillWomen | 08/09/16 03:23 AM |
| 1 | High SMV guys and N-counts. What is your ideal #?Not necessarily. Just because a man isn't highly interested in dating doesn't mean he isn't highly interested in pleasing his lover. There's a certain mental arousal and satisfaction that comes from giving reciprocated orgasms, totally agnostic to relationship status. I'd argue the more girls a man experiences, the better he'll be in bed, as he'll encounter new techniques and kinks for the next one. He won't put the pussy on a pedestal. Doesn't mean he doesn't adore and appreciate it, he'll just… | /r/RedPillWomen | 05/09/16 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Captain is obsessed with heavily tattooed women, not sure how to react when he sends me their photos.If it bothers you, tell him. As the girl in the relationship you're allowed far more leniency on being open about your insecurities. Just don't change you. I've got quite a few tattoos. A girl I was seeing loved them and would comment on them and point out girls who had tattoos to gauge my reaction. Long story short she ended up getting a low quality tattoo on her forearm, realized she didn't like it, realized she was going to have to hide it from her conservative dad forever, etc etc. | /r/RedPillWomen | 29/08/16 08:21 PM |
| 6 | Dealing with Boyfriend's mom?All you can really do is tell him how you feel and see if he can create more situations where it's just you two. You're going to have to see her occasionally as long as you're dating him; she's not going anywhere and is not going to change as a person. | /r/RedPillWomen | 29/08/16 02:55 AM |
| 2 | I'm in need of encouragement and I don't know where else to turnNot sure what else to tell ya, Kimmie. You have more power than you're aware of, the most important type of power: power over yourself, your thoughts, your feelings. I hope that you'll take time to see what you're capable of and to strengthen it. | /r/RedPillWomen | 28/08/16 12:08 AM |
| 3 | Need advice on finding strong guys in a weak worldThis post is why I find this sub so fascinating and refreshing. The answer is simple: shit tests. A guy who is self-assured and confident, whether they're a natural or just experienced, will typically pass most if not all of them. I'm imagining my friend who is just awful with girls and rarely gets past the second date with them unless they're batshit crazy. If a girl cancels or postpones a date, he's flung into a manic state rather than showing indifference. She gives him a playful jab about hi… | /r/RedPillWomen | 28/08/16 12:02 AM |
| 4 | I'm in need of encouragement and I don't know where else to turnFrankly your biggest issue is that you're totally and utterly consumed by self-pity, this idea that the world is just shitting on you over and over. You haven't mentioned one single positive thing about your life, and I guarantee there are plenty of them to observe if you choose to. Think about how many people in this world are afflicted with crippling deformities, inability to feed themselves, or how about those who've died prematurely. How much of a gift is it be alive, to be able to experienc… | /r/RedPillWomen | 27/08/16 05:17 PM |
| 3 | Curious about becoming RPW after you've been with your guy for a whileFrom a guy's perspective: we're flattered and impressed by a girl who approaches/initiates, whether on a dating app, at a bar, or anything in between. We're just built to chase, to be thrilled by having the girl agree to let us take them out, to let us come home with them, etc. With experience we become accustomed to throwing ourselves out there and sometimes we win, sometimes we lose. When a girl initiates we know we have a "good lead", an increased likelihood of "winning", so it's an attractiv… | /r/RedPillWomen | 26/08/16 10:30 PM |
| 21 | What do you wish you had known before you ever started dating? Advice for a high school freshman.Judge people by their actions, not their words. In-person is better than phone, phone is better than text. Know when the ball is no longer in your court and be willing to walk away if the person doesn't "pass it back", so to speak. Treat your time and a precious commodity and make others earn it. Stay busy with hobbies, school, work, family, and other things that will outlast virtually every relationship you'll ever be in | /r/RedPillWomen | 26/08/16 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Meal MondaysAny advice on how you beat that would be well-received here. I literally googled "tired after eating" less than 30 minutes ago. I have a salad with grilled chicken and - this is probably the kicker- some store bought salad dressing with soy oil, sugar, and who knows what else. Am | /r/RedPillWomen | 24/08/16 06:43 PM |
| 1 | Can We Both ‘Marry Up’?Way before the empirical evidence Jimmy Soul spelled this out in the song "If you want to be happy". An ugly wife will cook your meals on time, take care of you, not make you feel small. It's presented in a jocular fashion but sure is wise if not a bit blunt | /r/RedPillWomen | 23/08/16 08:47 PM |
| 4 | Sean Connery, aka James Bond, swallowed TRP in 1965He's just totally unresponsive emotionally, which is totally dominant. "I don't care if you want the last word, have it" "I don't want to you to play golf with me and I won't invade your golf game" "I have an opinion and I won't apologize for it" | /r/TheRedPill | 16/09/15 01:41 AM |
| 1 | Should I just ask her if she's interested?Yep. Interest is shown, not stated. | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 06:31 PM |
| 4 | If a girl rainchecks, it's on her to reschedule correct?Yes. Always. If a girl wants to be with you, she'll make time. If she bails, it's one of two things: 1. legit excuse, 2. she's not interested. Under either circumstance, it's her job to make the raincheck happen. Your replies to her flaking should be friendly but indifferent. "Bummer, some other time". If she legit is interested, she'll offer an alternative time. If she's not interested, you've saved yourself time. | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:25 AM |
| 2 | Newly single after long relationship unsure about myselfAgreed. Keep it light. You're the friendly, charismatic dude. Be interesting and the rest will follow suit. | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:23 AM |
| 2 | How to approach girls in group of 2 or more ... example of ice breakers ? Anything to get attention?This should have more upvotes. Your ability to interact with a group, including the less attractive friends, is an attractive trait. Girls want the guy who can be the hub of attention. Be the interesting guy that charms everyone. Why wouldn't a girl want to hang off the arm of the charmer? | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:22 AM |
| 1 | How to approach girls in group of 2 or more ... example of ice breakers ? Anything to get attention?Truth. Furthermore, when you approach a group of girls, there's going to be some less desirable ones, but you need to entertain them all. You need to be a guy that makes all people interested. That's the guy that girls want. | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:19 AM |
| 1 | So apparently just not giving a f*ck is sexy.Yep. Many guys have one object: get a girl to like them. That's not attractive. Girls are attracted to men who have a job, take care of themselves (physical, fashion, mental, etc.). Willingness to put a girl directly to the top of your priority list will just disgust them. Ever had a girl go immediately head over heels for you? It's unattractive. A girl should complement your life, not be your life. When you genuinely establish that mindset, you're a better man for yourself, and you're a better … | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:17 AM |
| 1 | Does my plan come across as creepy?That's good man. I wasn't trying to be an ass. I'm just saying, again, that you got to get yourself figured out before you can have a girl be into you. I've been the guy too into a girl, despondent over her, feeling like shit. It does no good. When you love yourself, others will love you. Good luck on your journey, bro. Youll make it. | /r/seduction | 12/06/15 04:13 AM |
| 6 | So apparently just not giving a f*ck is sexy.If she's hooking up with you already, she's probably down to hang. Just think of a fun date and see if she's free. If she declines, it's no big deal. Keep it light. Talking about emotionally charged things isn't light. | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 03:48 AM |
| 1 | Does my plan come across as creepy?If your head is full of doubts with a simple conversation, imagine the doubts racing through your mind when you're orchestrating some elaborate Ocean's 11 ruse such as this. You need to fix yourself before you even attempt to get a woman, if you want any success. | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 02:22 AM |
| 2 | Does my plan come across as creepy?yes, that's creepy. I have a hard time imagining a guy getting into a girls apartment by those means and then being some sort of Casanova. Probably wouldn't work anyways. Logistically, it's so far-fetched. You live at your parents. Not trying to be a dick, but: her having her own apartment with you living at home would be a tough one to explain without coming off as a dweeb. Should you somehow, by some divine intervention from the gods, pull that off. You risk creating a weird situation at a 4 (… | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Getting out of an LTR, I'm not in the college scene anymore, most of my friends left the area, I'm lonely but not sure where to start.Honestly, I've never been able to just go out by myself, but that's a fault of my own. Don't you have any acquaintances, co-workers, etc. to meet people? I got my undergrad in a small town as well, but I got the hell out once I was done. | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 02:10 AM |
| 3 | How important was losing your virginity to you? How did it finally come about, and how did you feel before and after?It's not even just experience having sex itself (though that's invaluable), it's knowing how to handle the morning after, it's knowing how to gauge your alcohol intake to perform at your best ability, it's knowing how to follow-up if you land a number and wouldn't mind going on a date/grooming a FWB. Virgins fuck all that up. | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 02:03 AM |
| 1 | How important was losing your virginity to you? How did it finally come about, and how did you feel before and after?throw his v card out the window What does that even mean? Your virginity means nothing. Having sex is awesome, even with someone who's not super attractive. You're not a different person when you have sex for the first time. If anything, you should be trying to get laid a few times so you don't look incompetent when you get in bed with someone you are super attracted to. Otherwise you're going to wind up with bed with someone you're too into, where you'll proceed to pedestal them, maybe not even… | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 01:57 AM |
| 1 | My Golden Seduction RulesAll those are good rules, though nothings particularly ground-breaking. Being confident, willing to walk away, indifferent, etc. is one of the greatest powers a dude can have. And yeah, being entertaining (in a non-clownish way) is obviously attractive. If someone has any intent of bringing you around people in their network, they're considering how you'd interact with said people. | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 01:51 AM |
| 2 | My problem with girls: I'm too picky myself.I will say, as a dude in his mid/late 20's, I do have some regrets about being incredibly picky until around age 23. Missed out on some potentially good times. If you're only willing to settle for 10's, you're probably not going to have a lot of luck. Girls your age aren't going head-over-heels for a guy who makes them laugh, at least not that alone. If nothing else, be willing to entertain these girls, get comfortable with your game. Being able to socialize with all people is an incredibly valu… | /r/seduction | 11/06/15 01:46 AM |
| 57 | So apparently just not giving a f*ck is sexy.you just altered your focus to what you give a fuck about It really is that simple. Whether it be going out on the weekend to have fun, managing the fragility of the first couple dates with a girl you dig, or a long term relationship, you really have to not be overly invested. For going out, it's all about not having expectations. You can't think "I gotta meet girls, I gotta take one home". That mindset just sets you up to be invested in your interactions with girls. That's not to say you won't … | /r/seduction | 10/06/15 10:28 PM |
| 1 | How can one remain awesome for a longer time?It's like dating apps, you have to escalate to a date within the first convo or you fall off the map. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 11:24 PM |
| 1 | I understand my inner game and want to approach girls now. Best way to start and ramp it up?Complimenting her looks works good if you're clever about it. I remember I was on a first date with this chick and she told me her older sister was a model, and I said "so good looks run in the family, huh". She smirked and had to break eye-contact. Pretty girls know they're pretty. They've been told it their entire lives. Saying "you're cute" wouldn't make much of an impression, unless she was actually not cute, therefore not used to hearing that. I think telling a girl you like her style, or s… | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 10:27 PM |
| 2 | How do you beat the "out of my league" feeling?It's so easy after the first couple dates to only pick out the positive qualities in the person (not to mention most people are good about hiding their negative qualities early). It can be easy to extrapolate those positive qualities to create an image of them as perfect (which is patently untrue), especially if they're good-looking. Then self-doubt can creep in, which leads to sending stupid texts, missing escalation windows, etc., etc. All of a sudden the person who was into you is catching we… | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 10:19 PM |
| 5 | How do you beat the "out of my league" feeling?I needed this advice a few weeks ago. Once you put a girl on a pedestal, it's game over. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 10:16 PM |
| 2 | How to be confident when kissing?Confidence. Recognizing the right moment for escalation. Your gut will tell you, it's your mind that can override your gut and make you do stupid things. I just blew it with a chick who was super into me by missing multiple windows and then forcing a kiss when dropping her off, which was just overly calculated and predictable time to do it. Normally wouldn't make those mistakes, but she was such a babe it made me lose my game. Feels bad, man. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 10:14 PM |
| 1 | What is the psychology behind being mean, brutally honest, and indecent to women and them wanting to be with me?Right. You have to be fun, light-hearted, and confident to poke at a girl you dig. It's part of my nature to mess with people in a playful way. The handful of times I dated girls who were so good-looking that it threw my game off, playful teasing was one of the things I ended up failing to deliver while out with them. With girls I'm into, but not overwhelmed by their looks, the playful teasing comes naturally and creates good vibes. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 11:52 AM |
| 1 | clean shaven or beard for first impression with the ladies?Just look at yourself objectively, I suppose. Or you could just asks girl friend what she thinks. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 03:04 AM |
| 2 | clean shaven or beard for first impression with the ladies?You're not crazy. Facial hair is as much a representation of yourself as your haircut, clothes, mannerisms. Whether you look better with or without depends. I look infinitely better with a short beard. So much so that a girl I hooked up with looked at my ID (clean-shaven) and straight up told me she wouldn't have went home with me without a beard. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 02:56 AM |
| 2 | What to do if taking her back to your house is not an option?Just went on a few dates with a girl who was living at her parents, because she traveled for months at a time for work. Made the logistics pretty difficult, especially because she didn't have a car, so I was having to go pick her up for dates. Also meant that I had to bring her home at the end of each date. Had a good time out with her, but physical escalation wasn't occurring at the necessary tempo and things fizzled as a result. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 02:47 AM |
| 2 | This sub has helped me so much. F-closed on a second date after the first didn't go well months ago.Out of curiosity: Why was the first date a failure? How'd you handle the situation? Clearly you left enough of an impression to have her thinking about you so much later in time. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 02:39 AM |
| 11 | What is the psychology behind being mean, brutally honest, and indecent to women and them wanting to be with me?I think it's about teasing, not straight up disrespecting them. It's as much tone, mannerisms, and overall delivery as it is the words that are coming out of your mouth. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Girls losing interest/fizzling out - getting feedbackYeah. Gotta see the signs she's losing interest and disappear on her. Only chance of re-stimulating something that's fizzling. It's a long shot, but either they come looking for you or they don't which saves you both time and energy. | /r/seduction | 09/06/15 02:33 AM |
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