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So would terminating the human population of the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:25 PM

No. Compulsorily sterilisation is one hell of a thing to be advocating for. I'm astonished with you tbh. Also I don't know what you mean by "you guys". You don't know anything about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:59 PM

Sorry does artificial insemination have a 100% success rate? And is it the preference method of conception for women or men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:28 PM

The reversal success rate is really bad after five years since the surgery. A vasectomy is not a temporary contraception. Please stop spreading misinformation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:06 AM

The reversal success rate is really bad after five years since the surgery. A vasectomy is not a temporary contraception. Please stop spreading misinformation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:06 AM

This seems like it would be true for at least some women. Both are seen as proxies for "manliness". But only one is outwardly visible. If they knew short guys can be hung, they might be less likely to pursue height. If you told a sample of women that short guys were more likely to be hung, I'm sure you'd observe an increased interest in short guys within thar sample of women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:54 AM
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It is degrading and dehumanising. You're incredibly based.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:15 AM
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Yeah I don't see you doing any man hating. You just seem proud of your relationship, if you motives for sharing it aren't the nicest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:18 PM
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But... you're also in here "posting threads". Well commenting really.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:44 PM
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You sound like how much sexual attention you give your husband is a huge measure of the success of your relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:58 AM
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But bro... chad =/= good sex and orgasms Good sex and orgasms =/= chad Plenty of needs know how to Slay. Bare. Puss.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 10:33 PM
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Just let him be happy dude wtf?
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:11 PM

Yeah not always the case, but I wasn't really talking about violence. When I made that comment I was thinking more about the men who pay for onlyfans models probably aren't the men who hate on onlyfans models.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 09:44 AM
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Do you think there's a incongruency between this response to a man being open with his emotions in a mature manner. And the general concensus amongst women that it is very attractive when men are open with their emotions in a mature manner?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 09:43 AM
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What is your good faith genuine account as to why they put him last after they saw him cry?
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 08:45 AM

Maybe the men "benefiting from their services" aren't the same men who have the hatred and disdain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 07:25 AM
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But you don't use your words when you want things. He has to do all the work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:46 AM
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So "I never initiated I leave it all to him"? Do you think he might feel more attractive and desired if you initiated every now and then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 09:15 AM
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...would be a child's response yes. Anything else?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 08:21 PM
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Honestly... I know she started it. And I know she only started it because she thought he'd never hit her back... But. Proportionality is important. She deserved a slap. For sure. But she didn't deserve to be slapped to the floor like that. It could easily have been life changing injuries for her if she hit her head on the way down. He didn't need to defend himself from a violent attacker. He needed to give her a "NO, stay away or you're going to get hurt" sort of response. Which could totally ha…
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 05:40 PM
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Is that the sort of energy you have for strangers in general? Or do you think men have more to prove to you than women do before you see them as decent people?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 05:53 PM
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Trash take. Never ever concede your hard earned money from a sex worker.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 04:11 PM
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We don't care who's making laws or writing TV shows when we're interacting with humans in our day to day. Although TV writers have been roughly 50/50 men/women for at least the last 15 years which is just how far back the article I saw went. It's just a Google search away. So women are the ones writing what we see on TV just as much as men are. Oh and in the uk where I live >35% of the most senior cabinet ministers are women. So women have an enormous say in law and politics. In our day to day l…
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:19 PM
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We both do it man. I've experienced it personally from both men and women in the real world.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:11 PM
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Do you think the likes she got for that comment were because she was sticking it to an admitted sex trafficker or because of the language she used to do it? Did she face substantial backlash for the body shaming language she used?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 07:10 PM
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This is the problem with "toxic masculinity" it makes men the problem rather than the expectations of men. And that was revealed beautifully in your writing. The whole point of gender expectations is that everyone plays a role to some extent. You know that both men and women play a part in perpetuating unrealistic gender expectations but you hyper focus on men's involvement in it because it suits your ideology. If you want to help as much as you claim to, removing accountability from 50% of the …
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 06:56 PM
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You're wasting your time with these guys. They're so online that they think this stuff is normal. I've never heard anyone irl say any of these things and I doubt op has either. He cited a twitter post as proof that it happens irl ffs.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 06:53 PM
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Do you think they have any more credence in their position than you do in yours?
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 03:37 PM
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Dude she's beautiful. She just doesn't look like an Instagram filter.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 11:58 AM
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If a demographic that makes up: 50% of the population 95% of work place deaths 85% of homelessness Would you describe that demographic as "super privileged"?
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 04:11 PM
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That's only true if you assume that all "not guilty" verdicts are not false accusations. Which of course feminists do. Tipping the scales in their favour.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 04:09 PM
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Right. So women prefer bigger. And guys with little dicks are beyond fucked. Especially if word gets out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:11 AM
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And you like that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/23 05:10 AM
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Isn't that just an appeal to extremes to avoid engaging with the meat (teehee) of the issue? Why is it so difficult to get women to admit that they prefer bigger than average?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:20 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:59 PM
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And you were addressing me right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 12:04 PM
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These women =/= all women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 04:59 AM
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So if you were presented with this bizarre scenario where you had to choose if your guy was gonna be bigger or smaller (excluding micro/macro penises) it'd literally be a coin toss for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:40 PM
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It was a cunty thing to do. But she was young. I've explained to her that it was wrong. People change.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:21 PM
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Maybe they know its wrong and don't like to admit it. Or maybe it's something that just comes out in them in those irl situations that they're thinking minds can intercept before putting on a public forum where they'll be somewhat held accountable for it. I can't prove to you that those things happened. But they did/do. It makes me really fucking uncomfortable and I hate it. I don't like that these things have happened. The first one in particular. She was sat right next to her bf. She held her …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:14 PM
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Your dodge tells me all I need to know. Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:10 PM
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OK. My ex didn't tell all her colleagues that I've got a big dick. Her colleague didn't ask me all about the size of my dick in front of her bf and her colleagues at a works party. My gf didn't tell all of her friends at a party all about my dick size. My family don't reference it on a regular basis because my ex wife leaked the "news" to them. My gf doesn't tell me about the time she laughed in a guys face when she saw his small dick during a hookup. Tinder dates/hookups haven't explicitly ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:07 PM
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So you don't think OTHER PEOPLE will ridicule a guy or feel some kind of way about him if they find out he has a small dick? Or in large social settings. How do you think it effects a guys chances of finding a date in that large social setting if word gets out that A: he has a small dick or B: he has a big dick? Who will be positively effected by that and who will be negatively effected by that? A/B. This is exclusively about other people's perceptions of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:02 PM
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It's best not to get too doomer pilled about it. Sure there's a clear prevailing preference. But there's a clear prevailing preference for all sorts of things. The people who don't conform to those preferences are just as happily in relationships as those who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:55 PM
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It's honestly outrageous how these women will act one way enmasse irl and then talk the complete opposite online when they're challenged on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:52 PM
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That's always the response "if they know how to use it" In order to placate and gaslight men y'all will compare a fictitious hung imbecile against a cassanova with a smaller dick and say "well the smaller guy was WAY better". Well duh. How about all other things equal? What then? In before "which ever one I have the best connection with". Two guys. One is smaller, one is bigger. Which one are you taking home? Fuck it. Say its the same guy but you can decide if he's bigger or smaller. You really …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:51 PM
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Because I have a big dick, I've seen how outrageous it makes y'all act and I get sick of the gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:45 PM
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So a man with a big penis isn't immune to the sort of social ridicule that is in all sorts of media we consume daily that could absolutely ruin a smaller guys mood for the rest of the day? Because YOU are not thinking about his penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:44 PM
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Yeah I got your number. But sure. Women hate men with bigger dicks. Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:43 PM
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None of his points had anything to do with a sexual partner. You only addressed a sexual partner and acted like you'd disproved his point. Hence "did you miss the point on purpose".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:42 PM
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Why's that? Because its actually big and that makes you feel content and happy? Either way you're proving his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:41 PM
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"Dealing with". Partner has a small dick and you're resentful about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:38 PM
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If its found out that its true in a social circle, all of a sudden the women act differently around him. I've observed this myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:37 PM
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Did you miss the entire point on purpose?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:36 PM
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Honestly I bet there are absolutely hobby spaces that are intimidating to join as a woman when it's a majority men space. I get you there. Do you think it might be hobby specific? The list of hobbies that are male dominated vs female dominated is likely one to one. For example. Do you think a rifle club would be more or less hostile towards women than a pole class would be to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:31 PM
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Well it's up for you to choose something for you to talk about... how about a hobby or something? How would your leisure time doing something you love be improved for you if you were a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:09 PM
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I... don't know how to say it any more simply. I can describe it in the abstract if you like? You said "I could do X easier and with less pushback." I'm saying "cool, what's X?" If there's something specific that I'm not communicating well let me know :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:34 PM
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Well, you said that if you were a man you'd enjoy doing thing you do now even more because it would be easier to do them and you'd get less pushback. I suppose I'm asking for an example of something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:41 AM
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I got down voted to oblivion for saying that I'm very much a sub 9 who is happily engaged to a woman who is happy to be engaged to me. This was in response to a post here saying that women are only happy/only really want 9s and 10s. It seems to me that doomer pilled/black pilled folks generally are the majority of active users here.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 09:32 AM
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What proportion of a group do you think is required to partake in an action such that statements like "X do Y" is permissible without any "some" qualifier?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 08:56 AM
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Can you name something that you like to do now, but you feel like you'd get less pushack doing as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 07:02 AM
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As a "sub 9" who is happily engaged to a woman who is happily engaged to me... I gotta say no.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 08:26 AM

There are a few genuine misogynists. But most criqiue of feminism isn't about women gaining agency and self determination. It's about the more callous aspects of feminism and how mainstream its misandry has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:49 AM

Do you think there's any hypocrisy with a lot of these feminists who would describe themselves as "body positive" when it comes to how they approach women's bodies vs men's bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:47 AM

I don't think women have it easier across the board. I think it's just easy for men to see that women do not face the problems that they face. The truth is women face a different set of problems than men do. I don't think either has it "easier" in total. Its tough for us all. Unless you're wealthy. Then it doesn't matter how many intersectional oppression points you have, you're mega privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:59 PM
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Have you ever heard about "putting the cart before the horse"? You should let the evidence lead you. The evidence shows that women think most men are unattractive and that men think most women are attractive. It shows that women are only interested in the top percentage of men, and thar men are way more diverse in their preferences. This might not suit your own personal ideology, but that's the thing with data. It doesn't really care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 02:36 PM
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How do you know 50% would be equality level? Do you know that the pool of potential candidates for these positions is 50/50? Maybe fewer women want to go into these jobs.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:07 AM

Yeah, I don't disagree. But that says nothing about the sex of the victim, which is more often than not, a man. Which is why I'm saying it's really silly to say that this is a woman's issue and ken can walk around care free at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 09:02 PM

Couldn't they both be as bad as eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:31 PM
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I don't expect my woman to look like the women in porn, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 05:33 PM

I don't mean the comments here. I mean the rhetoric in general. That's why I gave the common trope of feminists fantasising about being a man so they can walk around care free at night etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 01:08 PM
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Why is it presented as something only women understand? "If I were a man for a day I'd walk around at night with my headphones in". Every stat shows that it's men who are WAY more likely to br attacked in the street. Why do they have to lie with their rhetoric? They've been corrected over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 06:47 AM
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Thanks. Maybe we're all failures then haha. Or maybe some of these gender expectations are bs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:19 PM
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Honestly mate this is really disappointing, this is so incredibly bad faith. If you've got time, read my comment again and reply to that instead of whatever ended up in you mind after glancing at my comment with your eyes half shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:06 PM
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Cool. That's good to hear. So, I'm an expectant father. My fiancée and I are having a little girl soon. The expectation on me is that she (my fiancèe) should be able to stay at home and look after our little girl IF SHE CHOOSES TO DO SO. But I don't earn enough money for that. I work full time, I do what I can and I work really damn hard. So every time we talk about day care, parents baby sitting so my fiancèe can go to work etc... every time it's a stab through my heart because I should be bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:04 PM
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Cool. That's good to hear. So, I'm an expectant father. My fiancée and I are having a little girl soon. The expectation on me is that she (my fiancèe) should be able to stay at home and look after our little girl IF SHE CHOOSES TO DO SO. But I don't earn enough money for that. I work full time, I do what I can and I work really damn hard. So every time we talk about day care, parents baby sitting so my fiancèe can go to work etc... every time it's a stab through my heart because I should be bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 03:04 PM
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Are you open to hearing a different perspective and maybe having you mind changed on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:14 PM
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Are you open to hearing a different perspective on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 12:02 PM
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She's on nofap so it's highly likely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:22 AM
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I'm not sure what your answer is. Do you believe that men have a low set of expectations? And what does that entail for you? Does that mean they're easily achieved/conformed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:48 AM
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Yeah I've seen that trope. It's kind of encouraging guys to use rejection as a spring board into positive growth. It shouldn't be used to be nasty to the woman who rejected him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:37 AM
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Do you genuinely believe that men have a low set of expectations or are you just trying to trigger people? Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:22 AM
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I've never heard songs promoting revenge porn. Could be something I just don't hear in my bubble though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:52 AM
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Do you really think that's all a man's love is? It's WAY more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:37 AM
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You have a preference because of what you've been exposed to in your cultural bubble. I'm not trying to change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:44 AM
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Well whore is just a word we use to describe someone who satisfies a bunch of relevant criteria. Which this lady does. It's not a normative statement, its a matter of fact. Most OF creators make about $150/month. Afair that's the average earnings. And you have to sell every last shred of dignitity to get it. Spreading your cheeks to show strange men your holes isn't exactly something to be proud of, nor is it something most women aspire to. Thankfully. Contributing to your community in a meaning…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:43 AM
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I'm glad your happy. Just please, work on your attitude towards male genital mutilation. Especially forcibly done to infants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:41 AM
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That's why I was asking for advice. But I didn't get any. I've just got to do my best I suppose. I'd love it if she went into some sort of trade. Something that really contributes to society. If she ended up like the person I first replied to I'd legitimately just kill myself because I couldn't deal with that amount of heart wrenching disappointment. That'd be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:40 AM

Many american women have a blind spot in this area because of cultural indoctrination. Just know 90% of the rest of the western world thinks you're a monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:37 AM

Then you're a gross human being who's got a fair bit of work to do on yourself. Genital mutilation should not be a requirement. Foreskin is part of the natural state of the male body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 11:33 AM
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Yeah it's a good question. I think it comes down to me knowing that what we're doing is not respectable. It's frivolous, dangerous, hedonistic. It's a mutual thing too. I wouldn't expect her to want to introduce me to her parents. As an example. This one girl messaged me through the seediest app imaginable and basically asked me if I could come over and fuck her. And that's exactly what happened. I don't respect women who do things like that. And I'm operating on the understanding that she doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:54 AM
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Why would you prefer it if his genitals were mutilated?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:15 AM
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We can love different things/people in different ways and for different reasons. I love ketchup for burgers, I hate ketchup for ice cream. That's not a contradiction. I can love sluts for casual sex between relationships. But I don't respect them as people I'd want to spend any amount of serious time with.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:51 AM
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Like I said, he won't say it to your face because he doesn't want to lose what he still has with you. What father wants their little girl to become a whore? And it should go without saying, but often times... the most lucrative things tend to be the least respectable or ethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:37 AM
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I don't care who my daughter has relations with as long as she's informed, safe and happy. But being an actual whore is a different thing entirely. And I can guarantee your father is absolutely appalled by how you've turned out in this regard. Of course he wouldn't tell you to your face, he doesn't want to lose you. But he didn't raise you all those years with the hopes that one day you'd be pining for sexual attention from men on reddit as your choice of "job" You could have been anything. All …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 08:50 AM
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Anythings possible when you twist things to your perspective I suppose. On what you said, we'd need 53 consecutive female prime ministers over the next 200 years for you to he satisfied that this is no longer a patriachy. Which is obviously obsurd. Condition 1: Do men rule society? No Condition 2: Are women excluded from power? No Neither condition has been met. We do not live in a patriachy.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 06:29 AM
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Patriachy generally means a society ruled by men where women are largely excluded from power. Which is absolutely not the society we live in today. The uk cabinet has about 40% of the most senior positions in the country currently occupied by women. Two of our last three prime ministers have been women. If you think we still live in a patriachy in the west, you're a conspiracy theorist. For this to be a patriachy, the conditions "women are largely excluded from power" and "men rule society" have…
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:40 AM
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Patriachy generally means a society ruled by men where women are largely excluded from power. Which is absolutely not the society we live in today. The uk cabinet has about 40% of the most senior positions in the country currently occupied by women. Two of our last three prime ministers have been women. If you think we still live in a patriachy in the west, you're a conspiracy theorist.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 05:36 AM
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Why would you think for two seconds that the mother of my child would want our daughter growing up to need men to masturbate to her online in order to survive? Why would a mother want thar any more than a father would?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:19 AM
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"YoUrE sO wEiRd". That's all you people have when its pointed out how gross your lifestyle is. It didn't go unnoticed that you haven't addresses anything I've said. As a father, I'm very concerned about my daughters well being and self respect. Part of that is her not becoming a whore. Obviously I know that's very unlikely, we're good parents, she's going to have her father in her life etc... but it can happen. So I was wondering why it did happen to you. What trauma triggered this behaviour, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:18 AM
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"Misogynist is when not whore" then. Cool. Women's rights are based. Whoreology is cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:09 PM
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What? By being raised by a good man and a good woman and encouraged to do a career that contributes meaningfully to her community? Yeah, sounds terrible. "Bad is when not whore."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 02:53 PM
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As long as he's got a "serious daddy doggy style massive dick" though right? They're the only men you're interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:59 PM
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The only way women are celibate is by choice. If you wanna get laid, you could get laid within an hour. It might be shit but you could get sex. You are not involuntarily celibate.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 06:36 PM

"Like the rest of us". I was referring to the jobs that most people have providing goods and services in out communities. Did you really think I was saying that "the rest of us" are all in the military?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 11:01 AM

That could he really really fucking terrible. I don't know that she was coerced or what that coercion looked like. If I don't lug ladders and tools around site all day I'll starve to death and end up homeless. I'm coerced into breaking my body and no one gives a fuck. It's just business as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:40 AM

So you're not willing or not able to substantiate your claims. At least the feminists provide the data they're misinterpreting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:36 AM

I asked you for evidence for your claim and you come back to me with a youtube grifter who just says "wamen bad" thing. Anything else? You said you had terabytes of information. Can you give me one thing that backs up the claim I asked you about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:42 AM

I think the word that conveys your inteneded meaning would have been "indefensible". Who says the person looking after the home is being ordered to do so? In many traditional families the domestic duties included total control of the finances. Traditionally it would be common for a wife to tell her husband that he needed to pick up some over time to cover a certain bill or for kids clothes or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:04 AM

Where are the terabytes of evidence supporting your claim that current society sees men as bad unless they have a 12 inch dick? How on earth would "society" even know if a man does or does not have that before they treat him as good or bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:02 AM

How married to these beliefs are you? You don't have to he a feminist OR black pilled. Most people are happily in the middle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:45 AM

You OK bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:36 AM

"Cooking and cleaning aren't useful". Redditor who eats noodles and lives in filth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:35 AM

Equality. If you eat your cake it's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:34 AM

To deserve my empathy, yes. And it's the same for anyone else on the planet. You have a threshold of respectability for empathy. But it doesn't just depend on their respectability. It depends on what they're going through. If its something really terrible of course I'd have empathy with her. And if she was a more respectable person I'd have empathy with her for less. Its the same for you. You just have different conceptions of what is and isn't respectable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:40 AM

So don't be a ho then. No one is forcing them. Just do a job that contributes something meaningful to your community like the rest of us and be happy about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:49 AM

Did... did you just compare someone who got laid and became a millionaire to a soldier with ptsd? Absolute. Quintessential. Reddit moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:36 AM
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Not everyone who disagrees with you is a dishonest bad actor.
/r/AllPillDebate11/10/23 09:22 PM
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Man it's like no one wants to read what I'm actually posting today... I'm not saying anything about how common it is or isn't. All I'm doing is trying to explain the behaviour when it DOES happen. However rare that may or may not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:05 PM
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I think I explained why it isn't a contradiction right? It's explaining the behaviour. Not implying that the behaviour is dominant/the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:13 PM
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Isn't that just describing the behaviour, not explaining the behaviour? Why do they find them hot? If you ask me why people prefer to eat burgers and I tell you that it's because they prefer to eat burgers... I've not really explained anything have I.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 04:03 PM
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OK, thanks for clarifying. What's your hypothesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:57 PM
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You seem to be under the false impression that I'm a feminist 😅 So, I don't think I'm saying that casual sex mostly involves kind gentlemen who respect women's boundaries and understand women's feelings. I think I'm saying that women WHO DO select sexual partners from the pool of the previous hookups of their peers, do so for these reasons I listed above. I'm just explaining that behaviour of fucking the guys her friends have hooked up with. Not saying anything about how often thay happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:54 PM
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Both are fooling themselves. Women care WAY more about personality and chemistry than redpillers want to admit. But women also care way more about height, status, wealth, physique and fucking dick size than bluepillers want to admit. It's been a while since I brushed up on my feminist lexicon; isn't their a word for that type of feminist mind set that pretends that women are benevolent angels who never do any wrong? That's kinda the energy I get from bluepill. But redpill has a butt tonne of "wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:51 PM
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Damn. "Women aren't concerned about the likelihood of the guy they hook up with raping them" is a BLISTERINGLY hot take bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:44 PM
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This seems true. But probably only for casual sex. And the reason for that is most likely to do with safety. If a woman hooks up with a random guy, she has no idea how he treated his last five hook ups. However if a guy has hooked up casually with five of her friends. She'll likely know a whole bunch of information about him. "Is he respectful? Is he kind? Is he gonna fucking rape me? Is he going to make some minimal effort to make it pleasurable for me?" That sort of thing. None of that is guar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:48 PM
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AF/BB is only something that is only believed by insecure men who want to blame everyone else for the fact that they're utterly intolerable to be around. Women do not want to be miserable with and unattractive to their life long partner. Women do not want to get pregnant by/fuck some 6'4 loser. This is some deranged red pill cuck fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:44 PM
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White Knights vs Pick Me's. In my experience the white knights are more ferocious and bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 05:42 AM
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I personally value love more than sex. But I'm a big ol' softy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:48 PM

Can I hit you up next time I see a feminist saying something deranged about men? I can't imagine it'd take too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:54 PM

I don't know why you think that I don't want equality. Of course I want equality. If you'd like to talk further some time feel free to dm me. I feel like we could have a good chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:19 AM
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I think there's a difference between pleasantries and genuine components. Men have been conditioned to think that compliments to women are the same was pleasantries. Or rather than pleasantries appropriate for women can be compliments For example if a guy sees a male colleague he might say "morning John, nice weather today!". But if he sees a female colleague he might say "morning Jane, is that a new cardigan? Looks nice!". Both have the same meaning FROM him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:42 AM

I'm not mistaken about what feminism means. I take feminism as a collective of ideas by feminists. I look at what they say and what they do. You go by a dictionary definition. Not by their actual descriptions of the world and real life policy prescriptions the suggest and implement. It's the feminism motte and bailey. They get called out for the blatant misandry in the duluth model of abuse.... They retreat to "feminism is just the pursuit of gender equality from the advocating of women's rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:24 AM

It was many years ago. Obviously I'm not over it, but it doesn't hurt me quite so much anymore. The point is, it's absurd to make generalisations like that. Women aren't rapists because my rapist was a woman. Men aren't mad at feminism because they can't beat their wives anymore because a vanishingly small pool of monsters feel that way. Things are nuanced. Only a sith deals in absolutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:30 AM

My ex wife raped me. Women are rapists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:54 AM

I stopped reading once you insinuated that men are mad at feminism because they lost the right to beat their wives. And you were doubtful of me being good faith...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:02 AM

Weird. I'm pretty sure I suggested you take it up with feminists who ARE saying those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:55 AM

I'd love to talk to you more if that's OK. I'd love it if what you're describing is what feminism is. Because its more or less what I am. But I'm just seen too much to believe it right now. I have questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:09 AM

Then take it up with feminists not me. They're the reason I have these perceptions of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:06 AM

I briefly explain why this is the case in the rest of that comment. Like how it constructs a narrative of women being worse off than men by hyperfocusing on areas in which women are worse off and not really going to far into the rest of the picture. Maybe we both know what we're talking about, we just disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:04 AM

You just now: "It’s honestly kind of sad that simply because there is a movement to help women you now have the perspective that it should be about men. Why can’t the movement be about women? Not everything is about you?" Me three comments back: "I don't expect feminism to help men, it'd just be nice if it didn't harm us and lie about us and present false narratives." I don't think you're really listening to me dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:01 AM
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A lot of this stuff is what I've thought up of on my own. I've never gotten a good answer from a feminist about the "men are privileged over women" thing. For example, who decided that making up 90% of homelessness is not as bad as making up 85% of rape victims? How could you possibly quantify something like that? There's a long list of areas in which both men and women are disadvantaged/over/under represented. Feminism seems to hyperfocus on the ones that negatively effect women in order to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:11 PM
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I love women. And I fully support women's rights and many of the feminist issues too. Feminism is just far too biased and harmful to men for me to be one though. It tips the scales in women's favour and against men with too many things. The idea of men being more privileged than women only works if you ignore the areas in which men are worse off and women are better off. And that's exactly what feminism does. Because it isn't interested in helping men, it's interested in presenting a narrative, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:57 PM
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Do you think that'd be a popular take? Or an easy thing for me to say? "I can take up this space despite your fear of men because that up to you to deal with". Doesn't sound like something many feminists would tolerate a man saying to me. But I could be wrong. Personally I don't think that many women view men as defacto predators. I love women, they're lovely for the most part. But on feminism, I still think it's a problem for a good man who finds himself sharing space with women. That was me. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:20 PM
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Fair enough. Do what makes you happy!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:00 PM
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Have you ever been in a relationship? Let me tell you man one minute of that magic makes it all worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:57 PM
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Just unplug for a while if it's getting on top of you. Spend some time around real people. Be friendly to women at work and they'll be friendly back. Women are kinda like men really. Most nice, some assholes. But mostly lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:46 PM
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When you said that it isn't damaging to men and boys to be told thay they are viewed as defacto predators... did you make that up? It seems obviously true to me that it would be damaging. It has been damaging to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:44 PM
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I've done a few polls and ask threads asking women about the elevator thing. Most thought it'd be ridiculous to not get into the elevator because there's a lone woman in it. This isn't as simple as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:43 PM
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Thays kinda my point. That's why I'm not mgtow. Because I'm not a feminist. I reject the feminist narrative/rhetoric. I don't believe that most women view men as predators. BUT. ON FEMINISM, a good man ought to not be around women. It necessary follows.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:37 PM
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My point is that you don't have to be mgtow because the feminist rhetoric is false. Most women aren't scared of you just for existing however much feminism tries to push that narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:36 PM
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Thanks! You fixed it!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:34 PM
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I've granted all of that for the purposes of my argument. I hear you. What I'm saying is on this view you've just out forward, ought a good man distance himself from women so that they at least have to feel that way about one less man? What sort of man can happily take up space knowing how the human beings around him threatened by his being there? I'm not dismissing the trauma women have been through. I'm granting it as true. I'm granting it as true that they are fearful of men. My argument only…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:33 PM
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Just curious. Do you think you're adding anything to this conversation? Do you think I don't know the difference between existing and raping? Or do you maybe think that we disagree on your first sentence? You constructed your opinion as my opinion and fed my conclusion over the top of it. It's dishonest and not contributing anything useful here. I'm referring specifically to certain things, like sitting next to a man on public transport, maybe being in a lift alone with a man, walking past you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:06 PM
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Yeah maybe I shouldn't have used that word. It has too much baggage. I literally mean just don't being around women in general. Not subscribing to a mgtow ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:55 PM
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Yeah I agree. I've had debates with Muslims and said something similar. Their defense of veiling totally removes any agency or accountability from men for their actions towards women. It's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:45 PM
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Yeah I meant it in a literally sense. Not really talking about current mgtow men in particular. Just for any man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:23 PM
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I think different cultures can come to similar prescriptions from otherwise mutually exclusive ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:16 PM
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And are they right for treating men like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:07 PM
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This. I don't think feminists understand how damaging it is being repeatedly told that you're a dangerous monster just for being a man. They like to think about themselves as the side of "men should be more emotionally open". But they sure as fuck don't behave as though they care about men's emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:05 PM
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It could probably be explained as another extreme method to suppress promiscuity/sexuality. Like women covering up as to not garner a sexual/romantic response in the men around her. It may be that they give single men these curfews in order to limit contact between potential suitors outside of the social acceptable scenarios.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:03 PM
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That's true. But that narrative is actively pushed by feminists. If you challenge it as not true, if you dare say that the vast majority of men aren't predators then you're labelled as "part of the problem". Feminists try to convince women that men are dangerous predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:52 PM
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This is the motte and bailey that I experience with feminism quite a lot tbh. They're very confident throwing around "until its no men, it's all men" sort of rhetoric in more colloquial setting or where they're not likely to be challenged in a robust way. But in debate about the nature of feminism, they rarely defend these positions and often deny that anyone holds these positions at all. Its gaslighting. We've all seen it, we all know it. We've all read posts and comments and articles about how…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:49 PM
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That's sort of what I'm saying. What ought a man who doesn't want to make women feel uncomfortable do if he makes women uncomfortable by just existing near them? He can't not exist. But he can exist elsewhere I understand the compliment gap. I only referenced it in passing to show one of the different things that feminist account for with the idea that men are dangerous predators. It s not really an important part of what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:45 PM
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It'd be great if it were that simple. But feminism doesn't just say that men leering at women makes them uncomfortable. It teaches us that men are predatory monsters. Just for existing near we're already making women uncomfortable. It's not a behaviour that we're engaged in, it's just our existence. Not much we can do about that other than exist somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:32 PM
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GOTTEM
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:36 PM
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I gotta ask you man... why do you think it'd be awesome to move in that direction? 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:20 PM
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Women seem more bothered about past relationships than past sexual partners. My ex who slept around a lot before I met her made a huge deal about me having been married before (my one and only previous sexual partner too). I had one "body count". But because of the emotional significance of that one body, she was as insecure about it as a guy would br with his gf if she'd had a thousand "bodies".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:17 PM
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As a man who actually wants to get work done at work. Do not do this. In all seriousness though, I think it's just a fact of the matter that female breasts are a secondary sex characteristics that has a certain physiological reaction in the men around her. Yes some of it is societal, but we do live in that society. We're programmed a certain way. Can't just undo that in an instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:15 PM
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People thinking this is BS are not grass touching individuals who live in the real world. In my place of work, I see all sorts of people. Loads of different demographics from all ages and backgrounds. Across the board, the friendliest women are the older women. Young men are friendly enough, not as friendly as the older men. But younger women... they are cold, distant, awkward, rude, short with you, entitled... The cut off point seems to he somewhere between 26 and 32. Somewhere in this age rang…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:12 PM
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All of it makes so much more sense when you simply realise that they don't extend the same ethical consideration to men as they do to any other group. It explains all of their behaviour.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/09/23 06:45 AM
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It could be a type of appeal to popularity fallacy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/23 08:42 PM
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I meant if they're concerned that men will mop up the loans because they earn more, instead of putting protections in against men, why not put protections in against high earners?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/23 09:50 PM
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If they're concerned about men earning more than women... why not just do it based on earnings?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/23 07:20 PM
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Routine infant circumcision
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/23 09:32 AM
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Do you think by ONLY looking to women for aspects of masculinity you might be missing something? Would a mirror argument make any sense? Should women look to how men deprecate women for their understanding of femininity? Because that sounds kinda silly to me bro
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/23 05:38 PM
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I suppose masculinity sits on multiple axis doesnt it? A guy who's an excellent lay, but is also weedy and could easily be beaten up by any other man, isn't seen as masculine, as a tough guy who can defend himself very well and is only an average lay. Similarly, a rich self made businessman who is barely an average lay, is seen more masculine than a "loser" who knows his kama sutra front to back. It sucks I agree, but it's only part of the wider picture. It's not unique to sexual performance.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/23 06:10 PM
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Don't you WANT to do things for the sexual benefit of your sexual partner? If she sucks at foreplay, teach her how you like it. There are women out there who complain about dudes being bad at foreplay but they never speak up and teach the dude. Don't be like them. She's not a mind reader.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/23 04:16 PM
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If you're not both fully engaged in making it as amazing as it can be for the other person then its gonna be bad sex for at least one of you. Putting in the effort that you expect to get back is a great place to start. You should WANT your partner to have an amazing time having sex with you. That obviously goes for both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/23 03:03 PM
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A man must not cum too early, nor too late. He must cum precisely when SHE pleases - Gandalf the Chad. But fr, whilst it might seem bad. You've got to understand that for a lot of women, that just means it's over. A lot of men suck at foreplay and clit stim, so if she's already had wack foreplay, and he busts before she's getting to the good part, AND that means it's over... its understandable as to why that's gonna be frustrating for her. The ridicule obviously isn't cool, but at the same time,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/23 12:19 PM
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