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Purge CMV!Braincellular/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:17 AM
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No because individual life satisfaction is irrelevant to biology/evolutionary success ("hypergamy doesn't care"). In purely evolutionary terms maybe it could be considered a win (assuming he's the real father) but it doesn't make either person happy because one or both partners ultimately had to settle or otherwise didn't get what they want. Our genes don't give a shit about how we feel, nobody seems to get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 06:31 PM
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From a biblical point of view It's actually a biblical quote: "You shall know the truth, and the truth will set you free" (John 8). It's just knowledge, it's still up to you to do something with it. You think it's about manipulating people, this isn't the case. good relationship happens when you want good things for the other person, without expecting anything in return Yeah, don't get confused. There's no guarantee of a good relationship or any relationship whatsoever, God doesn't guarantee it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 10:45 PM
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It’s not just the weirdos on PPD. Many conservatives seem to hold to the same belief, that men and women are “complementary” in a way that also somehow coincidentally means men are awesome and women are sopposed to be barely anything other than dumb servile sidekicks. Femininity is not seen as truly complementary in the sense of women being truly half of the contribution to humanity. Yeah, I don't really disagree. I'm not sure that's not exactly how conservatives would phrase it but yeah whateve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 08:18 PM
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What I mean is that, while men who say the sexes are complementary may be sexually attracted to femininity, and while they may personally enjoy the pleasure of “feminine energy”, they don’t actually view femininity as useful, practical, or beneficial in any way comparable to how they usually glorify masculinity. Yeah, this much might be true, especially around here. But it's mostly nonsense and those men are naive and invest too much ego into the BS about "men built civilization" meme (yeah men …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:51 PM
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To some extent, maybe but not exactly. I don't think all women have alpha widows. The alpha widow is usually when there's some guy who satisfied both sides of her hypergamous filter and she couldn't lock him down, or maybe when she fucked up and didn't realize there was some guy she let go who she shouldn't have because it turns out he was the best she could have done (although I'm not sure this one happens all that often, usually when you're out you're out for good and it's because you failed t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:20 PM
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Yeah, that might be true. I'm not gonna try and argue that men don't suck in real life, in fact many probably do, and I'm generally of the view that people suck on the whole. Granted, a lot of us are pretty jaded and bitter but so are a lot of women when it comes to men (and both sides are kind of right) and that carries over into a lot of the discussion about it. If a lot of men denigrate women it's because they've been burned by them and they play the blame game (and that's not to deny the rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 05:51 PM
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I don't believe humans know what their biological drives are. Males and females of various social species have various levels of interaction with one another. There is no way to define how men and women biologically are because we have no consistent marker to compare it to. Chimpanzees, bonobos, and gorillas all have complex and completely different social and sexual behaviors compared to each other and humans. All this may be true. But I would counter that we don't have to understand our biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:49 PM
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I second that this is an interesting perspective. And I think you're absolutely right about society being basically totally alienating (capitalist realism etc), and that a lot of men here (& women in a different way) basically are mad about losing out on their idealized version of traditional family life, hence also why so much of the red pill goes reactionary. "I believe people need a reason to stay complicit in a society that makes absolutely no sense" is a great way to put it. That said, it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 06:17 AM
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Yeah pretty much. It's too bad, and women will ultimately lose too, because the sexes are complimentary. Ultimately it will leave almost lonely, unhappy or fulfilled. Like, Sure, but these stunning, successful women didn’t want children anyways! ...this is cope, on their part. Sure they might be able to convince themselves they're happy for a while, take antidepressants etc. But without masculine energy something's missing, just like for men without women in their lives. See the recent Guardian …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 04:40 AM
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I'm not sure what the point of this question is. But the answer is you don't want that, even if you think you do (female solipsism strikes again). If I simped for you as hard as I did when I was whatever age it would probably cause you to lose attraction for me, just as it did to chicks then. So if I actually thought you were worth keeping around I would try not to do all the embarrassing stuff I did then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 12:00 AM
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But as far as how that's going to work out for them, multiple studies find that never-married women with no children have outcomes that are better than average, so I would say that's working out for them just fine. I've seen few things in my life more pathetic than a lonely middle-aged woman desperately trying to recapture her youth and the male attention that went with it, but if the statistics bear out as you say, well alright then. I'm sure all those women will be very comforted to hear that.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:05 AM
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I'll take fun libtard women over Q-ANON Karen thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:05 PM
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Okay, good for you, but so what? I'm not sure what your point is. As for you not wanting kids, again, that's you, that's not women in general, or men for that matter. You suggested that women marrying a man who isn't millionaire is too high a risk. How's that going to turn out for most of those women if that's the bar they need to clear? What should they do when that doesn't work out for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:01 PM
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And when they discover, as they surely will, that they can't all marry the millionaire guy, that those guys are used to people trying to play them for their money, or that the guy in question is a player who will use them and string them along because he can and because he knows exactly what they're worth (which is to say, zilch) ... what should they do then? Give up? Abandon all hope of ever having a family or a loving relationship because all those other men are too "high-risk"? Become bitter …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:38 PM
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Speak for yourself, quarantine is eternal. But seriously though, most of the vocal women posters I've seen here are FDS trash and are clearly very damaged people. I agree most women aren't like that. If there are guys here who actually think that they are representative of all women that makes me very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:11 PM
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That's not really evidence of anything, it could equally be due to poor decision making on the part of those women (assuming they were the ones who initiated the divorce, which they likely were about 75% of the time). Correlation doesn't equal causation, there could be any number of reasons why this is the case (maybe the article gives some causation but I couldn't see it its paywalled). Youth and eggs (or at least eggs) is part of the deal or was historically anyway. You marry to start a family…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:49 PM
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If only...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:06 PM
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Yeah, more or less. What's super common, at least where I live, is that most dudes wife up the first or maybe the second woman who shows any interest in them whatsoever, at least once they've got themselves "established" in a career or whatever. And that's what those women are looking for (beta-bucks). Basically these dudes are so sex-starved they take what they can get. There are usually flaws that they don't like but they tolerate it because she's the only one giving him any intimacy and the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:53 PM
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Wouldn't that make a marriage a trap for men, not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:27 PM
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The irony is I literally didn't put sex on a pedestal though. That's not at all what I'm talking about here. It's not about sex itself, but if you have sex with her, retroactively she thinks well that guy must be worth it if I had sex with him, and so she gets attached. Whereas if he didn't its far easier for her to just find some reason to lose interest. The sex is really only a means to an end. If you really like the chick fuck her as soon as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:09 PM
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Yeah, kind of fair tbh. Any truly red-pill person probably isn't wasting a lot of their time here. In my defense, mostly I'm just bored and very unmotivated by the world I live in. So I write shit out on here sometimes as an outlet, or when I feel like there's something I can say. Or if I feel like trolling. Also where I live sucks and it was difficult to meet women, any women, even before Covid hit. FWIW I really don't blame women for anything I mostly blame where I live and the overall gernera…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:10 AM
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Is that a Magritte? It kinda looks like a Magritte.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:08 AM
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That's funny, the woman in question who was in my bed at the time would have disagreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 07:04 AM
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Yeah, funny thing about women's limits and boundaries, in my experience they aren't always the same from moment to moment regardless of context. I don't know, maybe yours are, which might explain a few things (personally I'd give up and kick you out of my bed).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:58 AM
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Struck a nerve with the other post did I? and he kept pushing it and saying it helps his back Lol, sounds like this dude just had bad game. Although apparently not bad enough for you to not keep him around way longer than you should have. Face it you've only yourself to blame for that. If you're a virgin, that's fine, a good guy who actually likes you and cares about you would hold back until you were ready (he'd tell you how much he wants you but he'd understand). But since you kept this idiot …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:52 AM
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No, not at all. You just keep trying to escalate things it until she does want it. I'm basically saying to dudes don't get complacent about it or she'll lose interest. Good God you femcel types are so committed to your hatred of men it makes you dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:27 AM
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Hey if I knew the answer to that I wouldn't be shitposting on here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:11 AM
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No rape involved. I'm saying just slide into home plate ASAP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:08 AM
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Average quiet girls are boring though, why would I commit? And who ends up as a 30-years-old virgin? A girls you supposedly would love to meet. Sweet, domestic, kind and shy. Sometimes average, sometimes pretty, sometimes even beautiful. Not obese. Not entitled. Not ones with huge standards. Yeah no way that's a thing that exists. And if it does its only because they never leave the house and no man ever gets a chance to even meet or interact with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:56 AM
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lol amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:49 AM
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Yeah I made that it didn't bother me clear enough, she was nervous something to do with ex-bf cheating on her multiple times so I was sympathetic, I'm not exactly sure I got the logic but whatever. We were certainly grinding pretty hard though, it was pretty damn passionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:45 AM
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experience is the best teacher
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:38 AM
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Yeah I fucked that one up big time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:34 AM
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She was on her period unfortunately. Would have liked too, but I'm not sure even I'm up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:33 AM
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Pressuring is the wrong word. No one likes to be pressured into anything. I'd say it's more like pushing for it, in a sexually excited passionate kind of way. Also, and more importantly. I'm saying if you want them to get attached to you you'd better get the deed done quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:32 AM
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I think you just have to get to the point where you it makes sense that you can take your dick out. Once it's out there it'll be like, well, may as well do something with it now. I had her almost naked with only panties, and only myself in my boxers. I shoulda just pulled off my boxers honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:27 AM
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insert always has been meme here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:24 AM
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Too bad she'll grow up to be a Karen
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:08 AM
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I suppose my point is, considering a lot of us make the same mistakes over and over despite the fact that we should know better, it's easy to say just don't fixate on it but actually not fixating is something else. I recently went through this myself (caught a case of oneitis), it still happens to me and I consider myself fairly red-pill aware but I still completely lost control of the situation. Like, it totally snuck up on me. What's kind of getting me through it this time is red-pilling mysel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 05:16 AM
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Wow thanks I'm cured /s What an asinine comment. As though somehow this is something you're just supposed to "get over." No, the red pill is a bitter pill, you don't just swallow it and move on, unless you're just a total psychopath. If it was so easy there wouldn't be all this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 01:43 AM
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Oh for sure. Helps to realize that, holy shit, you can in fact actually attract and get with women, even if they don't always stick around. Abundance mentality and all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:10 PM
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In the moment, not really. In the long term maybe you get perspective on the situation. The point is if you're pining over some oneitis it's not something you can just turn off because you're vaguely Red-Pill aware and you objectively know she isn't "the one" because you know that's an absurd concept. It's more that it gets easier over time, the more women you get with the more you get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:56 PM
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Both sides suck for different reasons. Being the stable provider husband type is all fine and wonderful until one day it isn't. Say she divorces you and takes away your kids leaving you wondering what the hell you went wrong, or even stops having sex with you (which often happens), or you see your single friends having a good time with hotter women and you're stuck grinding away with the wife you've got. In that case it might be a question of ignorance is bliss. Being the fuckboy type starts to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 07:43 PM
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I don't know if I'd go so far as to claim its totally become a cult yet. But oh yes, there are grifters a plenty, and you always have to watch for them. It's so easy to fall victim to a grift and to be led on, especially for impressionable young people. There are so many pitfalls and traps in this world (as is the case with "the Blue Pill"); as in other aspects of life there are many who will waste your time and take your money, if not outright gaslight you and use you towards their own ends. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 08:35 PM
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Funny, I just had an extensive conversation related to this in another thread. The person I was going back-and-forth with doesn't like the fact that a lot of men view women as nothing more than sex objects (paraphrasing her words, I don't think it's that simple) and men should recognize women for their personalities etc. Her problem is with men that essentially that they don't always live up to her ideals in the real world, and therefore she sometimes finds it hard to not hate men. It's really a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 07:50 PM
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Word. That too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:18 PM
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Yes, Northern Europe might be warmer and more comfortable. Until you stop getting summer rain (see Southern Europe, but unlike you their staple crops are adapted to those conditions), or until the gulf stream shuts down and your winters end up more like northern Canada. I should know, that's where I live, we can't grow nearly as many things here that you can, despite being on the same latitude...good luck with that huge biodiversity and diverse agricultural yield when you have 8 months of the ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:15 PM
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Women are bad at everything that isn't being a warm hole to fuck and an incubator for children, according to men. See, here's what you're not getting. The reality is that in a broad, general, societal sense this just isn't remotely true. But you have to understand, when it comes to relationships, it kind of is. I wouldn't phrase it in such ugly terminology, but that's the primary thing a woman brings to the table in the context of a man's life, and how we bond to women. All those other things ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 03:33 PM
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I understand where you're coming from, but to be honest it sounds like potentially wasted energy. You can't change everyone's way of thinking, any more than I can change the way certain people think about, I dunno, climate change for example (which should make everybody way more angry than anything we're discussing here). There's a lot of people who are for whatever reason, toxic, ignorant, selfish entitled and/or just low-IQ idiots. Arrogant people who are deliberately, maliciously even, fuckin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:13 AM
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Yeah okay Dr. Peterson. Tell that to the farmers experiencing massive crop failures this year due to excess heat and people getting hit by crazier and crazier hurricanes every year. I don't even have to watch the news I can see the climate changing around me because I'm minimally attune to my surroundings unlike most people apparently. Anyway climate anxiety's a real thing, call it a mainstream delusion if you like but it's still making (smart) people second guess having kids. it's something you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:04 PM
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To be fair people also don't want kids because they live in a neo-liberal post-capitalist hellscape where nothing is certain and the future is fucking bleak. Plus people aren't having kids because they aren't even able to meet each-other IRL anymore. May as well enjoy it while you can and spin more plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:35 PM
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Meh, that's really a judgment call on the part of each individual man. A man should know what he's getting into. If he wants a family he probably needs to accept there's a good chance his sex life will decrease and probably be okay with that because he thinks that trade off is worth it. If he just wants to have a lot of sex he probably shouldn't get married right away and expect his sex life to go up as a result, at least that's what all the data shows. If he wants kids, that's another matter. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:33 PM
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Yeah, agreed. I'd even go a step further and say a lot of these guys aren't red-pilled at all, more like black-pilled edgelords or maybe disappointed trad-cons at best. I don't know, maybe they got rejected once and now they think they've been red-pilled on women because they read somewhere they were too "beta" or something and so they just act like tough guys and lash out with edgy platitudes because they think that's "alpha" behavior. It's beyond embarrassing, its parody. They haven't struggle…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 07:09 PM
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See this is the kind of shit that gives the Red Pill a bad reputation. Yes of course people rank each-other, so what? ... the problem with blue-pill thinking is that it pretends gender doesn't matter and believes in a blank-slate theory of relationships. But he's not wrong to rightly observe that over the long term that healthy relationships don't function by one person simply exerting strict and overt force of will over another. He might be wrong about the whys of the internal mechanisms of tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 06:17 PM
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Perhaps, but I don't think a hierarchy is a healthy way to look at it. An intimate relationship isn't an organization (a family might be, that's a different matter). If there needs to be a "higher authority", i.e. it's the man leading, it's not an absolute authority so much as masculine energy for lack of a better term that she feels secure to express her femininity within. Healthy relationships have a certain give and take, a complementariness - the reality is, it's probably just really a lot h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:45 PM
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Are we all just lying to ourselves about what's actually right for us? Yes. Do we even know? No. You never reach the Real (the Real is what resists symbolization absolutely).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:31 PM
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It's not clear to me that he thinks about all women that way, if I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt it's because its just not immediately obvious to me, and that maybe it's just a case of him being immature and/or being a simp in college. If I have some sympathy its because its because I can relate i.e. I did similar stuff in my blue-pill days and realize in retrospect that it was rather pathetic on my part (and no it wasn't a particularly nice thing to do to the women in question either). …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 04:42 PM
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He doesn't respect her, he finds her annoying and only keeps her around because he fantasizes about fucking her. Yeah but he's literally talking about the past tense, he didn't say anything about his current relationship with this person. You're jumping the gun here. You don't know, maybe they developed a good working relationship later on. Maybe he respects her as a colleague now and she's proven herself competent. Maybe they're just catching up. It's not really relevant, but you're just acting…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 11:35 PM
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What exactly are you actually objecting so vehemently to here? His point is simply that if he'd been totally honest the women in his life .e.g. his female friend from college, they probably wouldn't like it very much. That at some point he had sexual fantasies about them, or that her shittier behavior has only tolerated because she was female, or barring that her main asset was the fact that she was a woman and that if she was a man they wouldn't have liked her ...he's not gonna say it out loud …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 10:26 PM
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Yeah, fair distinction. The blue-pilled man certainly doesn't want to risk rocking the boat, which is part of it (maybe this applies more to previous generations when monogamy was more socially enforced). But to your point I remember reading somewhere (probably Tomassi), that women basically aren't interested in the work that goes in, they just want the prize. A man is a human doer, the sum total of his actions or at least the potential total of his actions, and that's what signals competence to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 09:23 PM
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I couldn't give you a %, but I suspect not many. First because most men are coming at the relationship from a position of scarcity, so already they're probably compromising ("happy wife, happy life" etc.). They don't want to risk rejection/divorce/her leaving or upsetting the status quo. She might be disgusted with what she finds, better not to know. This is where the Red Pill comes in, and why it's also so difficult to swallow because it targets precisely these myths. Second, and a corollary to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 08:28 PM
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This post seems a little confused to me and I've spent the last 20 minutes or trying to make sense of it. Some thoughts: 1) To some extent yes culture tells women to find a man especially in more traditional societies, but increasingly in post-modern culture its also the opposite, i.e. women don't need a man to complete them. So this whole assertion just seems a bit dated. If anything we live in this globalized world and if you're not happy with your community or whatever you can leave. Unless y…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:42 PM
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The risk isn't that high if you aren't a loser. Unfortunately for many of you guys your natural state is beta loser and you will eventually backslide to that pathetic state and disgust your wife. "Loser" is a subjective term and a matter of opinion; it's not really helpful to frame it in those terms, even though admittedly some redpilllers do use that kind of vocabulary (which I think is a misunderstanding of red pill ideas but whatever). "Beta" doesn't necessarily equal loser or pathetic - the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:01 PM
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I think you kind of missed the point. Sure you could marry and if you apply red pill principles your marriage has a higher chance of success, none of that is wrong ... but the point is that by getting married you are taking on risk, risk of you slipping up all those things, getting too comfortable/complacent, getting divorced reamed in court, etc. The way I see it at least, is, the point is more that if you must marry, know what you're getting into and be damn sure its worth it anyway, a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 04:12 AM
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The funny thing is that it's actually red-pilled advice (i.e. be the "nice guy", being the "nice guy" is not related to attraction and doesn't necessarily get you anywhere) wrapped up in some sort of blue-pilled moralist standard that's impossible to meet. Nice guys are bad because they think being nice entitles them to sex, and red pill guys who try to make sense of female behavior and apply their knowledge are somehow also bad for some reason, not to mention the guys who are just assholes that…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 01:18 AM
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Never heard this... Also, that wouldn't really change anything if true. There's more men than women on Tinder anyway, and avoidant dudes would be more likely to sleep around and jump to different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 05:12 AM
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Say it plays out this way (big if, but that's a whole other issue), I think it will be a problem, and we're starting to see it already. This future will probably look more like Japan, with men who opt out of relationships completely, and female hypergamy on overdrive. People who are still hot will get laid, probably the most desirable guys will collect soft harems, and the whole "beta provider" strategy will die off as we move towards post-scarcity (big if there too but post-scarcity or not the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:35 PM
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This is probably true to an extent, but I don't really see how it's relevant. What I've observed often happens though, is the guy who wants commitment at a young age gets either burned by oneitis or gets trapped in an unhealthy relationships. As we mature we learn from out mistakes, or at least some of us do. Debatable and subjective, as others have pointed out. You don't need to be fully mature to get married, lots of people aren't. People can change within committed relationships as well, happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:51 PM
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Men and women are different. The reason a higher notch count is worse for women is because 1) it impacts their ability to pair bond, and 2) more importantly, women get less desirable with age (the wall is much younger), and so it becomes harder to get into a stable LTR and have children as they get older, and the more they "ride the carousel" the harder it gets. Basically, the consequences of a high notch-count are worse for women. This ability to pair-bond is also true to some extent for guys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:53 PM
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Speaking personally (obviously I can't speak for all men but I presume most of them feel similarly) you're not wrong insofar as how sex and intimacy is basically how we know that we are actually desired. In a sense it is about male insecurity, because unless you're the archetypal Chad intimacy and validation is a pretty scarce resource (I think women on the whole don't realize just how entrenched this is). Hence the whole RP obsession with validational vs transactional sex and constantly trying …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 11:11 PM
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As the person who you were responding to in this comment chain, I disagree. u/decoy88's comment makes perfect sense to me, and I don't really have anything to add. Using "men oppressed women throughout history" as an excuse to why you don't want to have sex with your partner is a total cop-out. edit: FDS poster, that explains a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 09:50 AM
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You really don't get it. Being aloof isn't a cheat "cheat code" any more than anything else. It's a heuristic that's useful to to a lot of guys who tried "just being themselves" and it didn't get them anywhere. Even if it only attracts a particular kind of woman as you claim (it could be that women with a secure attachment style don't fall for this, but I doubt its even that simple), well guess what that's that's still gonna be majority of women you run into on the dating market. So if you want …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:21 AM
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Sure they can recognize it, and if they're smart they won't stick around for long (like I say, major red flag). If it's in the context of a relationship it makes things a little different though, especially if your girlfriend was into you before (God forbid if you're married and you can't just get out), it's confusing (this was my experience with my ex anyway). I don't know, sometimes you can think you can turn her on or something, or you stupidly choose to ignore the red flags because you can't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:58 AM
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If you can't relax around a guy because he might want sex with you later (oh no!) that says more about you than it does about him. It means you probably don't actually like sex, at least you don't like having sex with him. Which fine, you don't have to like sex I guess, but then FFS stop using it to get guys to like you. Yeah if you have sex with a guy once and you keep hanging out he's gonna expect it again, what do you expect? Regarding relationships, what else do you think people do in them? …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:25 AM
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I dunno, seems to work well enough for a lot of them. Maybe they just don't actually find you very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 02:28 AM
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Tough one, and it depends what you're talking about, but in terms of basic attitude towards sex I'd say women. A lot of women seem to have really fucked up complexes towards sex, either they're using it as a tool to get what they want or they have this weird dichotomy where they think that sex and intimacy are somehow mutually exclusive. They accuse guys of "only wanting one thing" when in the guy's mind sex and romance aren't necessarily mutually exclusive (unless it Chad of course, then all be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:49 AM
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Totally agree. This is really a huge problem and people on both sides underestimate it. Like, location and logistics are possibly the two biggest hurdles, IMO, they feed and exacerbate everything else. I think this is why I liked living in Europe. It's not that women there are so much better (well, they seem to have slightly less attitude but it's a marginal difference at best), but I felt better just being there and living in a place where you actually see people walking around and socializing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:37 PM
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because neoliberalism is a hell of a drug
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:27 PM
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Yeah I had a similar thing with an ex. She stopped putting out over time and whenever it came it up or even whenever we'd have an argument (often after I tried to do something romantic) she'd say to me "you only ever want one thing!", as if I was just being manipulative to get sex (of course I wanted sex, but I wanted sex with her). It's like the 2 concepts are mutually exclusive for some people, as though romance is dirtied by sex, as demonstrated by u/teibe It's a pretty toxic dynamic, it seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:23 PM
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Easier said than done. Social isolation is epidemic, many people are stuck in jobs that make it harder. Not everyone goes to university and lives in urban areas or college towns. You're 20. It's easy to meet people if you're in university, especially if you live in student housing. Lots of people in college don't even have friends (being a commuter student sucks). This has really been done to death already, there's all kinds of other factors at work, maybe of them external. You join a sport or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:06 PM
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Yeah, I get where you're coming from, but I don't know if this is entirely true that beta-provider relationships are inherently unfulfilling. The problems is that guys go into them with false unrealistic fairy-tale expectations. You can probably have a fulfilling relationship with the right woman but it's not going to be the same kind of relationship you imagined as a younger man. This woman might be tough to find admittedly (maybe a lot of women are too far gone I don't know) but you can't real…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 10:48 PM
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I'm not even sure where to begin here. The short answer is basically you're asking a totally naive set of questions..."why can't people just be totally rational? "Why can't people just not focus on sex?" Like....because people are animals and not machines? We haven't bred that aspect out of existence yet? I'm not sure what you're expecting here. Like, the short answer is you can't just flip a switch and turn it on and off. But alright, that aside, I'll try to give a better answer. Apparently, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 09:34 PM
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Yeah, you said you like a guy who is "mysterious." My point was exactly that, women like a guy who is mysterious, that they can wonder about (this increases attraction because it increases emotional investment). Hence why the advice about being "aloof" generally works, and that's what PUAs mean when the talk about it. That's not the same thing as saying "being aloof makes a guy attractive." or saying that guys should be totally unavailable. No, a guy needs to have other attractive qualities, obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 07:44 PM
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Women don't want to be challenged by this stuff. They want things kept stupidly simple and totally fake. Then they complain about men being "emotionally fragile" or "too intense" when a guy is anything but. And we wonder why men get bored of these western women and go astray? A-the-fuck-men brotha. Women don't know what they want and really don't understand themselves very well. You see it here with female posters all the time. As Nietzsche remarked "women are considered deep. Why? Because no ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:46 AM
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yeah, enjoy it while it lasts!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:30 AM
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Well, they do get older and tend start looking for someone to settle and have children with, so yes, in that sense their standards change (looks becomes less important if anything). The point is, context matters. Maybe you're relatively good-looking and fun given your peers. Maybe you live in a dorm and have good logistics that make it really easy to hook up. Maybe those girls aren't bothering with Tinder because they get all the attention they want. Some combination thereof? Who knows? Could be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:22 AM
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So a guy who acts aloof but has good qualities that you like is "mysterious", but a guy who acts aloof but has qualities you don't like is what exactly? I guess that's perfectly reasonable (you like what you like), but it really isn't saying much, except maybe proving the point that any guy who wants to get with you should try and come across as mysterious and try to infer that he has some skills and qualities you might like, which to be fair I guess you said you agree that guys should do this a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:15 AM
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Just get a hooker bro Well, they don't because its illegal in most places. And we would never break the law... /s Also, depending on where you are its fucking expensive. Maybe still cheaper than relationships overall but that's not how people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:42 AM
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I think those guys would be surprised at how many of those couples aren't actually having sex very much (seriously, r/deadbedrooms is a real phenomenon), this can happen even if you're relatively young. Also, you're in university, you probably have a good social circle, meet lots of attractive girls, etc. Just because its your experience doesn't make it universal. There could be a lot of other facts at play here that you don't even know about because they are simply outside your own lived experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:37 AM
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This is underrated, and definitely a factor. People don't talk about attachment styles enough, on either side of the debate. That being said it's not really "archaic", women generally respond better some mystery and get suspicious of some guy who gives off the desperation vibe. Being "aloof" is really just a way of saying don't get attached too quickly, so it's really just good advice for a lot of guys who don't really understand the dynamic (especially guys with a more anxious attachment style,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:28 AM
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Isn't "alpha" kind of rare almost by definition? That's kind of the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:21 AM
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I mean, "Netflix and Chill?" is a euphemism and if a guy proposes that he probably assumes that you know what he means, which you probably do unless you've been living under a rock or something. I do get your point though, in the sense that like a lot of guys will use something else as a pretext to get to know you for sex. And like one of the RP principles is that pretending to be some girl's friend or feigning interest in whatever they're interested in, in the hopes that you might get them to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:13 AM
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Doesn't surprise me at all. Dudes be thirsty. There's probably a lot of factors at works but I don't think it disproves hypergamy at all. It says more about male sexual strategy than female i.e. men are putting themselves out there to cast a wider net. Women who are on tinder are often just there for validational purposes anyway (the was a study that was done on this, not sure where to find it now). One other thing to keep in mind, and this is sort of neglected by RP thought, is attachment style…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:51 AM
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Yeah, that's fair enough, and I would agree that guys should avoid women with that attitude, and shouldn't pussyfoot around what they want. I will say though that you seem to have a pretty shallow and un-nuanced conception of how men work...its quite possible for us to be attracted to a woman sexually and also find that they have other appealing characteristics as well, in fact this generally increases our attraction and the likelihood we'll actually stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:37 AM
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Yeah, I think this does happen, but the Red Pill does acknowledge it on some level, just not framed those terms. Certainly there's an element of this in game/PUA that talks about overcoming last-minute resistance, etc (basically, playing to some extent on women's agreeableness but also their fickle nature more generally...its a bit akin to sales in that sense)...anyone who has an sense would admit that this happens. This is also a really difficult thing to navigate when sometimes its also about …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:27 AM
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Yeah this sounds like a nightmare situation to be in as a guy...I don't want the girl to have sex with me just because she wants to make me happy, and this is what the red pill is trying to prevent. Unsolicited advice time, if that's how you feel, stop having sex. Seriously, this is an unhealthy relationship dynamic. If not for you, for your partner, sure he might get sexually frustrated but you'll both be better off in the long run (he'll find someone better, and you'll be free of "men who cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 01:07 AM
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I would disagree with the prostitution question. Legalizing prostitution could help insofar as it gives men easier access to sex...sure its transactional meaningless sex but at least it might keep men from pedestalizing women so much, lessening male thirst and simping behavior, and maybe have the side of deflating the epedemic of female self over-valuation. Otherwise, I would agree with a lot of people here that there isn't a lot you can do except 1) somehow try to create cultural change among m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 12:35 AM
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ok. then you're just wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:43 PM
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I have no idea if sugar daddies/babies pretend their relationship is transactional or not, and in any case who cares what they say? It's pretty obvious to the rest of us that they're exchanging sex for cash, they can protest all they want. What makes a relationship beta-bux is when sex is being exchanged for something else and it doesn't have to be money but any kind of provisioning...commitment/security etc. Yeah there can even be love there of a kind of but its conditional based on the benefit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 06:05 AM
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If you think girls simply don't get jealous when guys their age choosing women a few years younger, then you're the one who is totally naive here (women get jealous all the time for lots of reasons including this one). You might think that a small age gap is a stupid reason to be jealous but that's just your opinion, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I know for a fact that most 18-22 college aged girls date and fuck other ppl in college, so yeah wrong again So what? I know for a fact that plenty o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 05:46 AM
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It depends on the age gap. Llike I said in the other comment thread, it usually women settle for a guy relatively close to their age, but also somewhat younger (7 years is the average as I recall from the stats). Not a huge gap, but enough to incur jealousy in the women who are the same age as the guy. Also, that's just if we're talking about who they ultimately settle down with. If you told me that 18-24 y/o girls usually don't sleep with older guys upwards of 10-15 years older I'd have too dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:21 AM
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"Beta bux" just refers to any kind of male-provider type of relationship, not necessarily marriage. Sugar daddying is pretty much prostitution, a beta-bux relationship obviously isn't. But in both cases there's a transactional element...i.e. the woman exchanges sex for resources, i.e. she's screwing him because she wants something in return, either just money if its a prostitute/sugar baby, or something else besides just sex if its an actual relationship (e.g. in a marriage or dating) where she …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:12 AM
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I'm well aware of sugar baby relationships being a thing. I said that girls also date older men, I didn't specify why...I'm sure some of that is they want their money/security, an older guy has more likely has their shit together, overall more attractive/mature whatever. etc. This is just AFBB strategy in action (i.e. maybe they'd rather fuck the young guy but not necessarily have a relationship etc). Unlike you I don't presume to know what all women like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 04:03 AM
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They’d take a much hotter man close to their age with money in a heartbeat, it’s just younger men tend to not have money. That’s literally the only reason 99% of young beautiful women bother with older men.. money Sure, that's a thing, but broadly speaking that's just betabuxxing though, nothing new there, lots of women do that. And off topic but being a beta provider isn't the same thing as being a creepy loser IMO (maybe this could be a seperate debate thread)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:57 AM
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lol Except I very clearly said that that stuff exists though Not saying there isn't plenty of that around, obviously it exists
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:45 AM
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lol, ok. Not saying there isn't plenty of that around, obviously it exists, but lots of women actually date guys older than them too. Also, I would be remiss to point out that that this sounds exactly like something one of those jealous older woman would say...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:31 AM
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I mean, I don't see how it's any more pathetic than the women who get jealous of guys dating younger, but okay, you're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:17 AM
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It's not so much that we "care" its just that it's often a kind of schadenfreude based on past experience, and in a way it's kind of validating. Like you pretty much answered your own question when you mentioned "all of these women who i rejected (or rejected me when we were younger) are SEETHING now that i'm dating younger"... like, yeah, its kind of funny that this inevitably happens as you get older and you see women your age who wouldn't have given you the time of day before suddenly flip an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/20 03:01 AM
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