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BrambleEdge/r/MensRights12/06/13 10:43 PM
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She is correct, early feminists were as chauvinistic and sexist as they are today. The goal has never been equality or fairness but supremacy.
/r/MensRights08/09/17 06:18 AM
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Was it written by Tjaden or something similar?
/r/MensRights12/07/17 05:01 PM
2

Great post, rings as true today as in years gone by.
/r/MensRights25/05/17 03:31 PM
1

Absolutely disgusting, the sexism is overt and yet people don't see it.
/r/MensRights27/02/17 12:47 AM
3

You say you're from the UK and that men retire earlier than women there? I know up until very recently men received state pensions at age 65 whereas women received them from age 60. I seem to recollect the tories equalising the pension age so that women were to receive it five years later and thus become equal to men. Although, I'm not sure this has been enacted yet as there was quite some backlash. So, I'd like to know more about this women-receiving-pensions-later business. Oblige me if you wi…
/r/MensRights23/02/17 06:21 AM
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My mistake, it was not Intimacy, it was Health. Here is a mirror of that part of the series: https://youtu.be/bfx73a9Amiw
/r/MensRights20/02/17 09:14 PM
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That is my old account, I mirrored every part of the series except for the last one, Intimacy, as I couldn't download it. I do however think that there are other channels that have the final part mirrored as well. ManWomanMyth was my introduction to the MRM, does anyone know what happened to him?
/r/MensRights19/02/17 04:58 PM
2

Indeed, giving up legal and social privileges is not in the interest of women, therefore it is against equality! Feminism is sexism, always has been, always will.
/r/MensRights30/10/16 11:14 AM
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Wouldn't want to let facts get in the way of your faulty and biased opinions, now would you?
/r/MensRights26/08/16 08:03 PM
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Are you having a laugh? Are you taking the piss? Or are you this oblivious to actual history?
/r/MensRights26/08/16 07:50 PM
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That's the one, thank you!
/r/MensRights15/08/16 04:18 PM
1

Karen, do you know if Paul or anyone else has removed links from the Facts section of AVFM? I was looking for an international cross-cultural study on forced and coerced sex amongst university students that I am sure used to be linked there.
/r/MensRights14/08/16 08:21 PM
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http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/manufacturing-female-victimhood-marginalizing-vulnerable-men/ I am on my phone so I won't link the study she references, but it is a CDC NIPSVS study from 2010.
/r/MensRights14/08/16 08:16 PM
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No sympathy for the actual, real victims whose lives are ruined? Colour me unsurprised, these victims are after all not female so they do not count to a feminist.
/r/MensRights14/08/16 04:29 PM
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Men are raped outside of prison, primarily by women but also by men. Men are raped in prison by men and women: http://www.genderratic.net/?p=1526 Women are raped in prison, primarily by other women. The rape of imprisoned and jailed men by other imprisoned and jailed men is an issue but they constitute a minority of male rape victims, why should we discuss it at all times? Especially when the topic at hand is malicious false rape allegations?
/r/MensRights14/08/16 04:26 PM
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Donated 50 CAD to this cause. If you are reading this: Keep up the good work, Dan! Thank you for what you are doing.
/r/MensRights15/06/16 04:30 PM
39

Give it ten years or so, and maybe men will have legal protection from rape as well. So, slow progress!
/r/MensRights06/06/16 02:26 PM
2

Definitely a step forwards.
/r/MensRights01/05/16 08:09 AM
2

As a Swede, it's the first I've heard about gender neutral conscription over here. It was abolished in 2010, by then defence minister Sten Tolgfors (himself a conscientious objector on religious grounds), who I remember saying something along the lines that the last institutional discrimination against women had come to an end with the abolishment of male conscription...
/r/MensRights28/11/15 01:23 PM
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Perhaps it is this one?
/r/MensRights17/12/14 06:03 PM
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With regards to prison rape.
/r/MensRights22/06/14 03:11 PM
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Ok, presuming that's absolutely accurate As can be read in the poster, it is section 237 of the criminal code of Canada. I don't think it's an approach that should be targeted at women alone I think you missed the part where this was a 'parody' of the "Don't be that guy" campaigns which target men alone and all men for rape.
/r/MensRights10/04/14 07:13 PM
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I'm confused, who said women who legally abandon their children at safe havens should get jail time? Unlike men who try to legally abandon their children who go to jail for failure to pay child support, or simply can't pay because they are unable to. Women who kill newborn babies may get jail time, but never more than 5 years, even tough the crime of manslaughter carries a minimum sentence of four years and a maximum of life imprisonment, as the poster states. By pro-life, I assume you mean anti…
/r/MensRights10/04/14 07:08 PM
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Are you an idiot incapable of reading?
/r/MensRights10/04/14 06:56 PM
1

Not the fact that "[e]very female person who commits infanticide is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years"? That is not an issue we should concern ourselves with? Female privileges?
/r/MensRights10/04/14 06:54 PM
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That cemetery in the picture has some 16000 graves I think. The ossuary from which the photo was taken contains the bones of over 100 000 German and French soldiers. These were conscripts as well as volunteers. I guess that is what is defined as privilege to spoiled people like feminists.
/r/MensRights06/04/14 06:39 PM
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She also opposed suffrage as aiding in one's own oppression. She was an anarchist.
/r/MensRights12/02/14 07:05 PM
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Gynocentrism begins to describe this, however.
/r/MensRights26/12/13 04:35 PM
1

Does your repulsion at criminals having custody of their children only apply to rapists (perhaps only male ones)? Or does it also apply to murderers? Thieves? People convicted of assault or battery?
/r/MensRights26/12/13 04:33 PM
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Do you really have equal rights? Do you have conscription? If so, are women exempt? Are boys legally protected from genital mutilation? Are girls? Are men legally protected from rape? Can women commit the crime de jure?
/r/MensRights18/12/13 09:41 PM
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Everyone in that comment exchange is an idiot in their own right. I feel violated... One could almost say I was raped from reading that.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 09:34 PM
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I don't think this is very hateful, not when compared to the torrent of blind hatred men receive from government and media every day. I also think this is unimportant, someone made a video, oh no... Meanwhile, boys have their genitals mutilated, men are arrested for being beaten by their wives, men lose their children through corrupt family courts, men and boys are denied places in refuges and are forced to sleep on the streets, men lack the legal remedy to bring their rapist to justice, men are…
/r/MensRights16/12/13 10:29 PM
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So which is it?
/r/MensRights16/12/13 08:19 AM
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What exactly do you find misogynistic about Blurred Lines? Male Genital Mutilation is common and accepted and condoned throughout society, so I agree that this is not radical in any way, they are just playing on culturally accepted violence. They are feminists, to them female supremacy is equality. Once again, they're just following cultural guidelines that are accepetd, condoned and promoted by our societies: Misandrous sexism, female chauvinism and violence against men.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 09:26 PM
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Just came across your comment: Mr. Cheney's first name certainly fucking suits him. It seems to me, you're either a hypocrite or a liar.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 09:00 PM
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Why?
/r/MensRights15/12/13 08:41 PM
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Sort of reminds me of this. Because so many Iraqi women are widowed or have husbands who are out of work they have to provide for their families, they do so by performing arduous back-breaking work (the same work men have had to do for centuries to provide for their families, by law), so therefore these women are victims and should be given other jobs, because those jobs are for men. You know, the tough jobs that will send you to an early grave and generally cause you to have a rather miserable …
/r/MensRights15/12/13 05:30 PM
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At least you're egalitarian about it... I hope you lead a good life taking offence at everything related to genitals.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 04:57 PM
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There is absolutely no need to be a dick about freedom of expression. Did that offend you? I don't mean the part about suppressing free speech, I mean the part where I used the male genitalia as an insult, does that offend you? If "mangina" offends you because it in part refers to "vagina", so should "dick". By the way, this film is going to be misandrous rubbish, but I would never expect anything else from a feminist.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:50 PM
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Blames masculinity, claims that boys and men are perpetrators. Compare this to how these same feminist bigots view issues women and girls face: They are innocent victims of a system that hates them. There is nothing wrong with their femininity, it's men's fault. Hmm, I guess they view men's and women's issues quite similarly after all, it's all men's fault, and masculinity is to blame. This is clearly a feminist project, and will produce a feminist result: A sexist piece of bigotry that will rea…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:38 PM
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I'm not upset by "dick", never claimed I was. That's very dishonest of you. Words don't upset me, I find people who are offended by such trivial things very pathetic indeed. Oppression upsets me, you know, things like conscription, genital mutilation, alimony, exclusion from legal protection from crimes such as rape and domestic violence, being forced to pay for your ex taking your children away from you and going to jail if you fail to do so. Not that any of that would concern you, you are far …
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:02 PM
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Pie Jesu Domine lash Dona Eis Requiem lash.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:33 PM
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Fuck, shit, horse-piss, son of a two-balled bitch, motherfucker! Normal people who don't lead very protected lives are not offended by cursing, it's a normal part of their day-to-day conversations. Don't like it? Don't use profanities yourself, but don't tell people what they can and can't say. Do you automatically assume that everyone who ever calls someone a dick is a manhater?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 06:12 PM
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Feminism as an ideology and as a movement is incompatible with egalitarianism and humanism, it's hatred and bigotry.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:49 PM
1

All I am trying to say is whether or not feminists in history behaved with true equality in mind I know I am a feminist who does simply believe in equality. And I'm a Nazi who believes in equality between Jews and Aryans. What Nazis have done and continue doing is of no importance, what nazism really is about doesn't matter because some of us claim to believe in equality. I think everyone is oppressed. Do you think men are oppressed? I don't think everyone's oppressed. I think men are oppressed …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 06:46 PM
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I don't care, I despise all of them. They may differ in specifics but they all rely on the same basic core tenets in which I don't believe and that are downright offensive. I usually compare it to Christianity, there are several different kinds of Chrisitan denominations, all of them different with their own distinct beliefs. However, they all share some basic principles, for instance: There is a god. Now, I don't believe in any deity, so I reject all forms of Christianity. In the same manner, I…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 08:21 PM
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So, when exactly was feminism about equal rights? Could you provide me with an example as to how and when it sought equality? I am yet to find an egalitarian example of feminism. They have all been gynocentric, chauvinistic displays of sexism so far. Do you think National socialism was defined in a German lexicon from 1940 in the same way it is defined today? Do you believe it was defined truthfully by its proponents?
/r/MensRights01/12/13 08:15 PM
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Why would they? Feminism has never been concerned with equality, nor equity, it's only concerned with preserving and increasing female privileges whilst decreasing male ones.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 06:29 PM
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I will not co-operate with dogmatic bigots that spread lies and propagate myths based on their ideological grasp of the world. So, in my opinion we cannot now, and we cannot ever find common ground with feminists and other female-chauvinist groupings.
/r/MensRights01/12/13 06:20 PM
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Yeah, a really great campaign... You honestly believe men are told to rape by society? They are not merely implying that man means rapist, they are explicitly stating that to be a man (according to their warped and false views of masculinity) means you are supposed to rape. And you consider this good? You don't consider this to be misandrous, sexist bigotry at its most obvious? You don't consider this feminist rubbish to be touting "rape-culture"-stupidity? Fuck this!
/r/MensRights30/11/13 08:25 PM
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These are examples of the British usage, in the UK women cannot commit the crime of rape from a legal standpoint. For it to be rape it has to be carried out by a man, it wasn't until fairly recently men were included as rape victims. Previously, only women could legally be victims of rape.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:33 PM
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This is not a new phenomenon.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:40 PM
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The military draft, conscription.
/r/MensRights24/11/13 05:23 PM
2

As nigglereddit has pointed out, English and Welsh law dictates that rape is a crime carried out by a man, women cannot commit rape de jure. This also applies to Scottish and Northern Irish law. If you want to see actual rape-culture, have a shufti at, for instance, UK legal statutes and practice. Of course this only applies to female-perpetrated rape, but that's the real scope of extant rape-culture.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 07:04 PM
3

The Curious Case of Country C.
/r/MensRights23/11/13 04:44 PM
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And most businesses have a 'the customer is always right' attitude, so if she had taken issue with his flirting that would have been the end of it.
/r/MensRights21/11/13 08:23 AM
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She's not in a position to confront him? What does she mean? That she's incapable of saying she isn't interested? There is nothing wrong with endearing speech, most people like being complimented, if she is one of those who doesn't she should say so. What a self-righteous moronic imbecile... Had she said it was unprofessional, I'd agree, but what a load of rubbish.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 07:45 PM
1

They were plied with alcohol? I am not a native English speaker, so I am going to need some help here. Does ply mean force someone to drink or does it also include giving someone alcohol if they want some?
/r/MensRights18/11/13 06:33 PM
2

I'm not a Kiwi, but from the little I've read about the roastbusters, I don't see how it can be construed as rape. They are mostly underage boys having sex with mostly underage girls and then they brag about it. If I've understood it correctly. Is there something I'm missing?
/r/MensRights17/11/13 09:11 PM
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I'm from Sweden, and ethnically Swedish so I was spared from this mutilation. I do however have some Muslim immigrant friends and acquaintances (Iraqi, Iranian, Kosovar, Albanian, Bosnian, Kurdish, Afghan, Palestinian) who were not so lucky. I've talked to one about this somewhat in depth, he says he remembers the pain (it was done to him when he was about five or six), but that he considered it normal at the time as it happened to everyone, and that there was a party thrown for him and that he …
/r/MensRights17/11/13 08:57 PM
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I doubt that will ever happen. People refuse to see women as perpetrators, just look at rapists. And there are too many self-absorbed women who know that they have the social power to destroy a man if she so chooses just by saying one word for it to be used only when apt.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:15 PM
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Rape lies kill, don't teach people not to kill men accused of rape, teach women not to lie about being raped. Or, you know, both.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:09 PM
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This would be good if women only used it against men who were doing "creepy" stuff, and not against any man they just don't like. Then men could start using it against "creepy" women. Alas, this is not the case. Perhaps the best thing (given the reality of things), is to destigmatise the word. As of now, it's used as a way for women to keep men in their place of complete obedience under the constant threat of social ostracisation through female disapproval.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 07:03 PM
8

Who's the minister for men's affairs?
/r/MensRights17/11/13 06:34 PM
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So, you're saying women don't receive state pensions from an earlier age and live longer than men partly because they don't have to work as long as men? Female privilege backfires sometimes.
/r/MensRights17/11/13 04:03 PM
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Great argument!
/r/MensRights15/11/13 10:50 AM
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ManWomanMyth, that's what got me into the movement.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 10:38 PM
0

So I should be able to cut off my kids' left hands seeing as their my kids that I can do whatever I want to?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 10:31 PM
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Freedom? Such as this?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 10:30 PM
1

What a lovely religion they have.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 10:28 PM
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So you don't think intact men can be Jewish? They are just posers?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 06:40 PM
1

I understand that a man who had his genitals mutilated does not understand what it means to have a foreskin and a frenulum, and that he is hesitant to acknowledge what was in fact done to him by people who supposedly loved him. How about you ask just some of the myriad of men who loathe that their parents had them mutilated? Let me ask you something: If the men you listed enjoy having had the most sensitive part of their penis removed, that's fine by me. But why shouldn't they be the ones to dec…
/r/MensRights14/11/13 06:38 PM
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And as I've already brought up twice, Jews can always adhere to their religion without mutilating their sons by choosing a Brit Shalom.
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:01 AM
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Watch one, then tell me it's not torture. I can't imagine the pain they go through as their foreskin is cut from the glans and then cut off completely. It is mutilation, you remove healthy, normal and natural, highly sensitive tissue, you can't compare that to removing infected tissue. How about this, I start a religion that requires every member to tattoo the religion's symbol on their face, preferably this is to be done at birth, would you be okay with that?
/r/MensRights14/11/13 11:00 AM
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I would deny everyone the "right" to mutilate children unable to consent. Whether they're Jewish, Muslim or just do it because they think it looks better doesn't matter to Me whatsoever. You would torture infants to appease a religious grouping. I see how it is.
/r/MensRights13/11/13 10:37 AM
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There is nothing dishonest about calling genital mutilation genital mutilation. It would step on the religious rites (so close yet so far) of the Jewish people, but there's already an answer for that: Brit Shalom, as I've already mentioned. It has no adverse side effects? Except it removes the foreskin, the tissue laden with nerve endings which protects the glans from external hazards, and keeps it from keratinising and losing sensation. It also kills thousands of boys every year, but, yeah, no …
/r/MensRights12/11/13 07:19 PM
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I replied to a commment saying we had freedom of religion, and provided an example of how boys don't. Because when you mutilate a newborn baby boy's penis as a religious rite (choosing his religion), you are taking away his right to freedom of religion, what if he doesn't want to be Jewish or Muslim? If you want to be a Jewish male, you can mutilate your own genitals when you reach an age at which you can consent to having your genitalia permanently altered, or perform a brit shalom. My opinion …
/r/MensRights11/11/13 10:21 PM
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Really, because you know that the suffragettes were among the most ferocious warmongers and advocated military conscription for all men, and before that was achieved, they handed out white feathers to men and boys they thought should be 'doing their bit' and shamed them into enlisting to go get killed. So, I am guessing suffragette-era feminism was essentially the paytreearekey...
/r/MensRights11/11/13 09:32 PM
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I will not sit idly by while boys are not offered the same protection from genital mutilation and the same right of bodily autonomy as girls are. If you don't like it, you can go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights11/11/13 09:28 PM
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And you're claiming that wars are a result of Paytreearekey?
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:47 PM
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Apart from the young boys who have their genitals mutilated so their parents can force their religion on them, just because the law will not protect men and boys to the same extent it does women and girls.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:38 PM
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I keep telling these xenophobic white knights (Western men who want to rescue foreign women from the "oppression" they suffer) this, but somehow they just don't get how privileged women are, in other non-Western nations as well. They usually don't understand how privileged women were prior to first-wave feminism (those champions of "equality") in Western nations.
/r/MensRights10/11/13 10:36 PM
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And this is positive how exactly? Another feminist lying about masculinity and demonising men, but acknowledging some men's issues (which really? Video games containing violence?) to further her agenda of advancing women even more? Mere supremacy is not enough! No, thanks. Men don't need to be protected from violence, that is violence against men is in itself not wrong, until these bigots can attribute some violence done to women (as if women are uniquely victims of domestic violence or even the…
/r/MensRights07/11/13 10:54 PM
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And the UK, fairly sure Eire as well. Oh, and most of the world, nearly forgot that one.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:20 PM
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Perhaps she should have gone up to a freed slave and thanked him for working on her land! He didn't do it out of choice, he did it because he was legally required to, something her or her foremothers never were and never will be. He had no choice! This is something I don't think women understand (I mean really understand), it's not their fault, they've just always lived with the privilege of never being enslaved.
/r/MensRights05/11/13 10:38 PM
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How can a government dictate what its citizens choose to inject into their own bodies?
/r/MensRights05/11/13 10:10 PM
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Unfortunately as a female we sometimes need to assume the worst in people to protect ourselves. You are aware that men are at a higher risk of attacks from strangers than women are, right?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:59 PM
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Short answer, no. You can't pertain to an ideology and movement espousing misandrous, sexist dogma and claim to want equal rights and protection for men.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:34 PM
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India has a serious problem right now with rape Yes, like how the feminists continually vetoed the inclusion of female perpetration and male victimisation in the legal definition of rape. That is actual rape-culture (not the mumbo-jumbo feminists make up), it's matriarchy and needs to be stopped. When it comes to rape, women are the privileged class in every country in the world. Every country in the world acknowledges and outlaws male-perpetrated rape of women (this is a devaluation of masculin…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:29 PM
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No. I don't think calling a white supremacist a bigoted cunt makes anyone look like an idiot. It's a statement that is true to me.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:07 PM
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There is not a single woman in the world who is happy with her female circumcision, Uhm, yes, they are. They are the ones who do it to their daughters. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 09:04 PM
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Yes, well, in the UK women are legally exempt from ever being accused of committing the crime of rape (rape-culture?). Rape can only be committed by a man there, so obviously it's going to be male-on-male.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:51 PM
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Technically, the Middle East is Asia.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:47 PM
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Calling someone a cunt or dick isn't offensive to me, I can't help if someone else takes offence to such trivial things.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:45 PM
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You know when you walk around on the streets and see men sweeping the streets, cleaning snow off of roofs, building houses, mending roads, maintaining the railways. When you fill your car up with petrol, and think of the men on the oil rigs, the men working in industries to keep us a technologically advanced society, etc... I guess you could say, your everyday man who is doing his utmost to keep his loved ones comfortable while he defies poor weather, hazardous environments and arduous, strenuou…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:42 PM
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I don't consider profanity to be hateful, it's a normal part of everyday language for most people.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 08:18 PM
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Great read, the sheer stupidity and blind bigotry of feminists are infuriating.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 07:08 PM
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Haha, great story.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:56 PM
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The fact that you're unwilling to admit that women had significant hardship in doing anything besides I did no such thing, I've repeatedly stated that women suffered disadvantages and discrimination (just like men did, something most people deny or ignore), just that they were not oppressed. why people assume that MRAs are a joke. Interesting, because here I thought it was because people have been so indoctrinated with feminist lies and myths about male privilege and female oppression that they …
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:55 PM
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Who said anything about removing what they already measure? I don't know, I sure didn't. But if you add the other measurements, how will you be able to decide whether the person is logically or emotionally gifted?
/r/MensRights04/11/13 06:40 PM
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Justice! Seriously though, where are the campaigns to tell girls and women that violence against men is not okay? This assault and battery culture indirectly hurts women when they attack a man who is willing to go against the social programming he's received and defend himself and fight back.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:48 PM
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Indeed. They would become worthless for establishing high-functioning people with a superior grasp of areas such as physics, chemistry, maths and technology. Which are the areas that matter when it comes to creating, building, designing, anything that has to do with technological advancement really. If we were a society that relied on having more efficient face-to-face conversations in order to advance, we should definitely use those metrics in deducing IQ. But, as I said, none of this means tha…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:44 PM
2

Indeed, quite true.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:23 PM
1

Tell me, who were the ones forced to work to provide for the family? And who were the ones who were given a choice to work or not? Who were the ones enslaved by the state and sent to kill or be killed? Was it women? Or was it men? Now, tell me, who were really oppressed?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:21 PM
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I believe that commonly sited 'men have more variance' has actually come into some disagreement lately. But I don't have the sources, so I won't be talking about that. Additionally, I'd have to look more into the mathematics and see if the difference can actually be seen at regularly occurring but high IQ levels - for example, an IQ of 140 isn't that abnormal and a good portion of the men who 'built things' probably had that IQ. The question is at 140 is there a considerable difference between t…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:18 PM
1

Because there aren't buses? You know the vehicles where men must vacate their seats for women in Saudi Arabia.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:07 PM
1

Is being given advice the same as forbidding certain words?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:02 PM
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Crazy is believing in the what's obviously untrue.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 11:00 PM
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The Mahr? That is the exact opposite of what it does, it is money or property the wife is entitled to in case she is widowed or divorced, to make sure she doesn't have to work. Just like dowries and dowers.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 09:21 PM
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Oh, the work women put in was very much recognised, they were lauded for it. I'm pretty sure you've heard the saying that behind every great man there stands a great woman. Still doesn't change the fact that most things have been built by men, they still are. I am not quite sure what you mean about women not being allowed to build. Were there laws saying women couldn't? Additionally, there are a fair number of women scientists who contributed and have never been recognized, or had their work sto…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 09:19 PM
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(or possibly a third world feminist, because a lot of women there really do have it tough) And men don't? I think feminism was necessary in the past I disagree with feminism ever being necessary or a force for good. It was a female-supremacist ideology and movement from the get-go. It ignores male oppression and female privileges, and is chauvinism in its purest form. but now, at least in the first world, women are pretty much equal to men Haha, no. Women are way above men. We went from a societ…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:44 PM
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To those who downvoted me, I'd like to ask why? Was it that I brought up the fact that most things ever built have been built by men? Let's take a look at where you are currently residing: The house you live in was most likely built by men, with materials most likely developed and refined by men using raw materials most likely gathered by men, transported to the site of construction most likely by men, using roads most likely built by men in a lorry most likely built and designed by men running …
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:23 PM
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Someone spouting gynocentric, misandrous, historically inaccurate rubbish with no relevance to the subject at hand is cleaning up your act? Women weren't oppressed by "the Patriarchy", and no amount of feminist historical revisionism is going to change that fact.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:12 PM
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Some of us might find suppression of free speech (which includes profanity) very offensive.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:09 PM
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A whole lot of feminist bigots in this thread, are they always present or do they just flock certain threads?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:02 PM
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Tell a man in Saudi Arabia who has just paid the Mahr that there is no matriarchy. What the flying fuck does not being allowed to drive have to do with the father being the head of the household?
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:00 PM
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I must say though, that you didn't actually refute any of what the poster claimed. They claimed that men have built virtually everything, which is true. They didn't state that no woman ever contributed or that women have never done anything, just that in comparison to men, they have not contributed as much. You reply by claiming women were 'oppressed' by "patriarchy". But that doesn't refute that most things ever built have been built by men, educated, uneducated or self-taught. Sure, women were…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 05:34 PM
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Watching the ManWomanMyth series on Youtube. I have pretty much always been hostile to feminism as I could easily see that women weren't oppressed or mistreated, I could see they were treated better by everyone than men were and that they had more rights than men but less responsibilities. I just never understood that this meant men were poorly treated, that men were discriminated against (even oppressed at times). I had never learned to look at things from a male point of view (in spite of bein…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 04:26 PM
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Our view of sexuality is largely based on 19th century thoughts on sex, which were very prude and unfulfilling for both sexes (don't be a gynocentric bigot like the feminists, please), but sex and sexuality was not something that looked down upon all throughout history, only for a small portion of our history. And it was most certainly not a uniquely female burden to have their sexuality denied, that is just pure misandrous sexism talking right there. Women could educate themselves, there have b…
/r/MensRights03/11/13 04:19 PM
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Women can't even vote in Saudi Arabia yet, and you telling me im glossing over men's issues? Women cannot vote in Saudi Arabia, nor can children in any country, does that mean they are oppressed? Probably because the female side has it objectively worse than the other. I most certainly don't agree that the female side is objectively worse. And even if it were, that doesn't mean an ideology that only deals with that side's issues (whether real or imagined) and which deteriorates the situation for…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 05:59 PM
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I ser completely overlooked what comes right before the part you put in bold... They have duties towards the women they are by law obliged to protect. Just like parents have responsibilities to their children over whom they also have rights. You're also glossing over other men's rights issues in Saudi Arabia. Is there conscription, are men legally protected from rape, do they have to pay a Mahr, are they having their genitals mutilated, etc..? You just did what I asked you not to do, you only lo…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:30 AM
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The same can be said about god, doesn't mean I believe in that either. But, I am sure if I just made an effort to believe in it, I could!
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:19 AM
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Yes and no, 'det' is definitely impersonal and has a more inanimate feel to it, and I'd never use it to describe a person. However some animals are 'det' and some objects are 'det', while others are 'den'. Rådjuret (the reindeer) is a 'det' and kon (the cow) is a den. Isen (the ice) is a 'den' and äpplet (the apple) is a 'det'. Det is always used for a general 'it', e.g. It's raining = det regnar. I don't know if that clears things up for you, but it depends on which grammatical gender the word …
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:53 PM
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How many girls get shot in how many parts of the world? Are boys allowed to not provide for their families in those parts of the world? Does any of the cultures that send female rape victims to prison (which ones?) acknowledge male rape victims or female rapists? You're looking at it from the point of view as feminists do, only looking at female disadvantages while ignoring when the same thing happens to men or when there's a correlating issue affecting men. Like they do regarding genital mutila…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 07:53 PM
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No country needs feminism. You're still locked in your gynocentric viewpoint, all cultures have advantages for men and for women and disadvantages for men and for women (except Western). How could an ideology based on the denial of female privileges and male oppression, one that is so out of touch with reality, be necessary to achieve equal rights?
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:54 PM
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There is no such thing as rape-culture.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:48 PM
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Way to use feminist statistics using sexist and chauvinistic definitions to conclude that 99% of rapists are men and 91% of rape victims are women. Here's the truth about rape. And when it comes to prison rape, women's and men's prisons alike), this is what is going on. Let me ask you something, if we were to redefine rape to mean forced envelopment only, and we subsequently found that close to 100% of rapists are women and close to all victims are men, would you find that fair? Or would you thi…
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:46 PM
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As a Swede, hen means absolutely nothing to me. I don't use it, I've never used it, I never will, it's useless. When we didn't know the sex of a person as a child, we said "den", an already existing pronoun that is gender-neutral. I will continue doing so.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:22 PM
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Every time I see the word Patriarchy used seriously in an article or study, I immediately dismiss it. It's the same as reading an article on religious matters that assumes there is a god. Why should I believe it? There's no evidence.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:15 PM
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I might have signed it, for equality.
/r/MensRights29/10/13 06:11 PM
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I am myself pro-abortion, I refuse to label myself, though, as typically pro-choicers are obnoxious idiots who have no idea why others oppose abortion. I am also for equal reproductive rights post-partum, the mother has a right to surrender her legal responsibilities to the child, so should the father.
/r/MensRights28/10/13 06:25 PM
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How exactly is the word mutilation hurting the argument? It is mutilation.
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:25 PM
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Well, they very well may be, rape has an attrition rate of around 6% if I recall correctly, that is 6 out of every 100 reported alleged rapes end in conviction. The number that are proven to have been false accusations is approximately the same (around 6%). As for the rest, we don't know, now do we? All of them could be actual rapes, all of them could be false, or the scenario I find most likely, some are false and some are actual. When it comes to the ratio, it is equally correct to say that mo…
/r/MensRights27/10/13 08:24 PM
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You cannot fight for men without fighting feminism, feminism is one of the biggest opponents to equality.
/r/MensRights26/10/13 11:18 PM
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When did he say 10% of alleged rapes are true and the rest are false? Did he even cite any figure at all? Other than <100%?
/r/MensRights26/10/13 06:55 PM
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Feminist rule #1: Female privileges abound in all cultures, but must never be discussed or even acknowledged, no matter how obvious. Just deflect and blame "the Patriarchy".
/r/MensRights25/10/13 05:11 PM
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I am very much expecting the latter, considering the types of comments he's left.
/r/MensRights24/10/13 07:19 AM
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Rationalising/ignoring male oppression and disregarding female privileges. You know, the usual to expect from feminists.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 06:00 PM
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Break a leg! Best of luck.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:43 PM
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Reading the comment replies from OP made my head hurt, what a sexist idiot.
/r/MensRights23/10/13 05:40 PM
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So, you're saying it became apparent to you after being indoctrinated with feminist dogma.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:45 PM
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Precisely, Patriarchy Theory is misandrous prejudice and sexist bigotry.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:43 PM
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I am an antifeminist, and I deduce we are not the same in the slightest. It seems to me that in fighting feminism, your whole movement is just fighting itself. Do you not see that statements implying lots of women lie about being raped stem from the same place as statements saying all men accused of rape are guilty? No, saying all women who claim to having been raped are liars, would be the same statement in reverse. Saying that false accusations are quite common is the same as stating that accu…
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:41 PM
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I very much enjoyed reading this. Thank you, Elly.
/r/MensRights21/10/13 05:20 PM
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It's not as if this is the most blatant sexism our gynocentric societies have come up with. It's outrageous that but not hard to understand.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 08:06 PM
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It's genital mutilation, a violation of boys' bodily autonomy, and needs to be outlawed.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 08:05 PM
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The privilege of being male.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 08:02 PM
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Are these possibly homeless shelters?
/r/MensRights20/10/13 04:13 PM
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There is of course the issue of parasuicide, whereby you feign a suicide attempt to gain attention and sympathy. An issue in and of itself, but not comparable to suicide and suicide attempts. I don't know how high of a percentage of either sex' suicide attempts are parasuicidal behaviour, but I wouldn't be surpurised if most suicide attempts are in fact not suicide attempts.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 04:10 PM
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And so the feminist narrative of female victim - male perpetrator continues. Women who have drunk sex are raped, men who have drunk sex are rapists. The absurdity of it would be funny, if it didn't ruin lives.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 03:48 PM
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Feminists creating and upholding actual rape-culture against men while denouncing imaginary rape-culture against women. Fuck the lot of them.
/r/MensRights20/10/13 03:39 PM
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Applies to pretty much every single news outlet.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 06:05 PM
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Women were entitled to provision and protection by their husbands, fathers, brothers, well every male whether family or not. This was deeply ingrained in the culture, that men sacrifice themselves for their family and women in general. Think of it like this, if men were so deeply entrenched in this thinking that they'd sooner drown or be crushed by copious amounts of water, perhaps women were so entrenched in the same thinking that they considered it self-evident that men should die rather than …
/r/MensRights18/10/13 10:29 PM
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I don't care, as long as thee aren't any quotas or women-only-shortlists that advantage women and disadvantage men. I don't care, as long as there aren't any quotas or affirmative action that advantages women and disadvantages men. I don't care, as long as there aren't any laws forcing men exclusively to provide for their families while assigning no such responsibility to women. I don't care, as long as there aren't any quotas or affirmative action that advantages either sex and disadvantages th…
/r/MensRights15/10/13 10:04 PM
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"deserve" rape because they were wearing a short skirt or tight pants as some cop implied in a report about a rape. And you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. It was no report, and he never said 'sluts' deserved to be raped, he said that dressing as one might increase the risk of being raped. I doubt he's right, but he most certainly never said anything of the like of what those disingenuous sexist chauvinists attribute to him. Have you ever stopped to think about how 'sluts' are al…
/r/MensRights13/10/13 09:39 PM
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Good analysis! Thank you for breaking it down for us.
/r/MensRights13/10/13 05:06 PM
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Banning FGM is insensitive of other cultures and racist! Therefore we should not ban it. /s I've come to the conclusion that most people are scum.
/r/MensRights12/10/13 04:05 PM
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Both good and bad. It might help tackle this particular problem directly, people will definitely be more rpone to understanding the plight of women who are forced to pay alimony than men. The bad part is just that, it's only because a few women are now beginning to have to put up with the conditions men have lived under for decades that this is worthy of mention and people might consider alleviating the burden. We don't need any more gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 06:08 PM
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So, what you're saying is that even the term is a case of "benevolent" sexism? Since people are so sexist against men that they can't even see that favouring women and disadvantaging men is a case of sexism unless it is framed as something women face? Fuck that, that's just pandering to gynocentric bigots. It's sexism.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 09:51 PM
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That's not the issue, most people realise they are being sexist when they refuse men the same protection and assistance readily given to women. Feminists and other gynocentrists frame it as benevolent sexism (even though it's men who are disadvantaged by it, we're just going to keep focusing on women, because "paytreearekey"), other more sane people view it as sexist against men and call it that. The issue is not that they don't understand it's sexist, it's that they just don't care. I refuse to…
/r/MensRights08/10/13 09:48 PM
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Oh, god I hate self-righteous social commentators who don't have a clue what they're talking about. They're basically politicians in spe. They don't know the first thing about rape (or the statistics), she's a female chauvinist pig, and he's a tremendous white knight.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 05:53 PM
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You are assuming this is a person that possesses some measurable level of intelligence, you are wrong. This is an imbecile who's spouting mindless drivel she's been taught by ideologically deluded bigots.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 05:31 PM
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This will naturally be completely disregarded by the government. After all you don't gain any votes by addressing a problem with actual facts, you do so by pandering to feminist ideas of female victimhood and male evil. Or perhaps they will disregard it because in Sweden we (that is, the parliament does) believe in Patriarchy Theory (könsmaktsordningen), and since that states men are superior in our social structure violence perpetrated against men doesn't hurt them. Don't ask me about the reaso…
/r/MensRights08/10/13 05:24 PM
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Considering both their names, I'd wager neither of them is circumcised, so I suggest we strap them down and cut off their foreskins and frenulums, preferrably without any anaesthesia. After all, according to them, this is not a human rights violation.
/r/MensRights08/10/13 05:18 PM
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Is it for American men only?
/r/MensRights06/10/13 04:47 PM
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It's about men gaining equal rights and protection under the law, and women gaining equal responsibilities/obligations/duties and punishment under the law as a first step.
/r/MensRights06/10/13 01:30 PM
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LieBaron is not an MRA, he's a feminist. Probably best not to listen to him. I'm not Danish, so I don't know who Carl-Mar Møller is, the bigot who replied to you might be right about him.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 11:52 PM
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What saddens me is that people still refuse to state the truth, that nearly 100% of rapists being men is not true. This number comes from the old female privilege of being legally (and culturally) exempt from being charged with rape. If you just say, rape is sex against someone's will, you end up with near equal numbers of female and male perpetrated rapes. If you include feminist definitions (but also include female perpetration, something they continually refuse to do), I'd wager there are mor…
/r/MensRights03/10/13 10:42 PM
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Did the court establish that she had said no? Because from what I've gathered, it is claimed by her that she did but it's not been proven.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 10:21 PM
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The examples you bring up can be extrapolated to most of the third world. Rape laws are typically gendered, most of them don't recognise male victimisation and none that I know of acknowledges female perpetration. Afghanistan has super strict islamic laws, but other islamic countries abide by the same laws, rules and customs. Women have a right to be provided for, all her income belongs to her, whereas the income of the husband belongs to the family and she has a claim on it. Does UAE really pun…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 10:01 PM
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I disagree with quite a few of them, but others are good. The best part is that they are not gendered, however some of them are outrageously infantilising and idiotic: If they say "Yes" and change their mind, it's not consent. - Ehm, well they still consented. If they no longer consent, they need to express that assent, just 'changing your mind' is not enough, you need to tell the other party/ies so. If they aren't sober, they can't consent. - Complete bullshit. The absence of "no" is not consen…
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:59 PM
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Excellent!
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:32 PM
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We have always been antifeminist...
/r/MensRights30/09/13 06:04 PM
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Patriarchy theory is akin to antisemitic theories about the international Jewry. Could she please explain why it's bad that men are overrepresented in positions of power? Why is this oppressive? How is the fact that men take on these roles more frequently a problem? What are we to do, force women to give up on their wishes for their lives and submit to being a high-ranking politician? Force men not to get into those fields? Also, women never were property, that is another feminist lie, so her ge…
/r/MensRights30/09/13 05:55 PM
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Their behavoiur is typical of feminists when they're called out on their bigotry. I did not mean to imply that you or women in general should be blamed for these chauvinists' behaviour and sexist beliefs.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 11:01 PM
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Ah, perhaps you'd be interested in knowing that UK rape law is gendered. Men can be raped as of 2010, but (cis)women cannot commit the crime of rape, as it requires the perpetrator to have a penis. England and Wales Scotland Northern Ireland I thought this might be of interest to you as you expressed an opinion that thinking women cannot rape men is ridiculous. Here's a video of a couple of UK feminists clinging to the legal definiton of rape in the UK (excluding female perpetration) to avoid ad…
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:27 PM
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Agreed. May I ask where you are from?
/r/MensRights29/09/13 10:03 PM
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It is islamic law, and is practiced throughout the muslim world. And why should a woman not be determined fit to pay for her family? It's not that she is determined unfit, it's that she has a right (privilege) not to. The responsibility to provide and protect is her husband's. She has no such obligation. I am not sure where you come from I'm from Sweden. but where I come from, roles being so defined, is in fact, oppression. So, you're saying men in Saudi Arabia are oppressed? I agree. So what no…
/r/MensRights29/09/13 09:15 PM
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Why should someone's life choices be taken away from them like that? This is a result of the law I mentioned. A man has a legal obligation to provide for his family, including his wife. She on the other hand has no obligation to do so. All money she earns is hers and hers alone, she doesn't have to spend any of it on her children or her parents or her husband. The money he earns is property of his family, his children, his wife and his parents. So you see, women already have rights: The right to…
/r/MensRights29/09/13 07:24 PM
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As opposed to the men in Saudi Arabia who are subject to unjust laws that require them to pay the Mahr, provide for their wife, be genitally mutilated, are not legally protected from rape, etc..? Oh, I see, you're a gynocentrist who chooses to only look at the female side of things and therefore conclude that since women cannot drive in Saudi Arabia they are uniquely oppressed. Edit: Here's a muslim woman explaining why islam does not oppress women.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 06:07 PM
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No. Just no.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 06:02 PM
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All feminists are scum, because they all support feminism. Feminism is a hate-filled religion based on sexist "theories" and misandrous beliefs. Women have more rights than men. Men on the other hand have more responsibilities and obligations than women. But, women and men who want even more privileges without any of corresponding responsibilities for women are not chauvinists? The worst part is that they outright deny that they are privileged and claim that they are disadvantaged (or even oppre…
/r/MensRights29/09/13 05:49 PM
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The fact that women had no responsibilities towards the government, no rate-paying, no military service, no obligation to provide for even themselves is a pretty big one. When you advocate for giving women the one thing that men were rewarded (after a few centuries of unrewarded duties) without forcing them to take on those responsibilities, you're not advocating for equality or equity. You're advocating for supremacy. I came here solely to profess my distaste and sympathy for a man who encounte…
/r/MensRights29/09/13 05:18 PM
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And women weren't technically allowed to vote for several reasons, yet they somehow managed to think that was something worth striving for. Without fixing any of the reasons of course, because that would not have been beneficial to women.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:42 PM
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Are you seriously implying that women quite simply didn't work in the past? And are you implying that working back then was some sort of dream come true? You understand my fury? I don't think you do. My fury has not only to do with their despicable actions, but the entire ideology and all the bigotry and gynocentrism surrounding it. Feminists back then were just as horrible bigots as they are today. They wanted nothing to do with equality. Which is why they not only wanted to keep their female p…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 10:36 PM
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It's like you didn't even begin to read my reply... They did not strive for equality, they strived to increase female privileges (already extant at that point) and decrease male ones (either by removing them or by extending them to women as well), so tehy advocated going from a more or less equitable society structure to one that was purely supremacist. Women were not oppressed or second class citizens, they had their own set of privileges and advantages, different from those of men. The old way…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:08 PM
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So, tell me, were women required to serve their elected government in the military like men were for the vote? Did the suffragettes demand women were conscripted alongside men in order to gain suffrage? Or did they hand out white feathers to men and boys in civilian clothing to shame them into the trenches? Did they demand the government conscript men into the military during the Great War? Along with Norah Dacre Fox (later known as Norah Elam), Pankhurst toured the country making recruiting spe…
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:15 PM
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Poor judgement, victim-blaming.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 04:28 PM
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Only people who have a very gynocentric view of history can conclude that the past was a male-favouring time or that women were oppressed.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 05:19 PM
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I'd consider having sex when you didn't want to the definition of rape, actually. In some cases, in others no. If your (hypothetical) wife asks you if you want to have sex and you say no and she gets disappointed and says 'please' which leads to you taking pity on her and agreeing to sex, has she raped you?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:19 PM
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Tell me, exactly what does prostate cancer prevention have to do with men's rights? The only way I can think of, in which the two matters (prostate cancer prevention and men's rights) converge, is to forcibly equalise government spending on men's and women's health issues.
/r/MensRights24/09/13 06:13 PM
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I mean, its not like before feminism existed the average man had it that easy I never said that, or hinted at anything like that. All I was saying was that prior to feminism fathers did have rights and were considered parents. but could not due to the expectation to be the man, and work to provide for the family. This was less of an expectation and more of a legal requirement, much like it is currently in third world countries.
/r/MensRights23/09/13 05:08 PM
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Some are egalitarian MRAs who are antifeminist. And from this day forth I shall be known as Some!
/r/MensRights23/09/13 12:20 AM
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The male gender role traditionally is not involved in parenting, therefore fathers are not given the same parenting rights as mothers. Utter rubbish... Fathers have always been involved in their children's lives, it's just that they were legally obliged to provide as well as protect, and thus didn't have time to be as involved in the manner you have decided to consider the only way to be properly involved, which is the nurturing way. Fathers used to have rights to their children, then along came…
/r/MensRights23/09/13 12:06 AM
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I'd also like to add that only one of your examples is a double standard. Male clothing choices have been used to rationalise rapes and assaults against them. So, this is not a double standard.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 05:44 PM
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Actually, there's a huge difference in that clothing is a choice, an erection isn't... An apt comparison would be a girl who gets wet obviously wants it.
/r/MensRights21/09/13 12:37 PM
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As someone who has been groped a fair few times (only ever by women I might add) among other things, it's quite literally nothing. And I see you chose to ignore the point of you being gynocentric and deciding to act as if this is something that only happens to women and only by men.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 04:39 PM
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I'm not a feminist and I've been part of MRM since before you ever heard of the cause. 30% of all women by the age of 30 will be the victims of sexual assault or rape. That statistic is too high for anyone to ignore. On top of that 15% of all men will be the victim of sexual assault or rape as well the majority at the hands of men. You must be an extraordinarily crappy MRA then who spouts feminist statistics/lies and ignores that men are far more frequently raped by women than by men (a fact tha…
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:57 PM
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Is this sarcasm? I can't honestly tell, please tell me it is!
/r/MensRights18/09/13 10:48 PM
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Btw, have you seen Bob Geldof's documentary on fathers' rights (or rather lack thereof)?
/r/MensRights16/09/13 05:29 PM
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Well, there's this one. I prefer the other one from a purely musical standpoint though. Which better describes the anguish of divorced fathers, well your opinion is as valid as mine.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 05:26 PM
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Deborah Orr is a woman, so you can't accuse her of rape. British law is quite clear on that matter: Rape is a crime committed by a man.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 12:23 AM
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The fact that you have that kind of power is wrong, the fact that you personally choose not to exercise that power is a different matter. Also, the I kind of laughed and said no, I made you and my mother made me, and her mother made her. bit is highly incorrect and sexist. You and her father made her, your mother and your father made you. You're indoctrinating your own daughter with biased falsehoods.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 12:18 AM
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Problems by Cosmo Jarvis.
/r/MensRights16/09/13 12:08 AM
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Good point, actually.
/r/MensRights15/09/13 07:24 PM
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Gynocentric as in that society developed to accomodate women's needs. Keeping women safe at the expense of men for instance. Laws protecting women but not men is one example of that. And how many feminist academics have used their influence to accurately depict rape and rape statistics? That is to include forcible envelopment in their statistics and not hide those victims in order to be able to focus on women (gynocentrism)? Or how about accurately depict DV and DV statistics?
/r/MensRights10/09/13 07:21 PM
2

So, now you are saying that grandmothers are more likely to be chauvinists than grandfathers are to be self-hating? Feminists didn't create the situation, but they have done absolutely fuck-all to help, indeed they have made it a whole lot worse. While exaggerating the issue of female rape to ridiculous proportions and claiming that men commit all rape, they deny male rape and female perpetrators or minimise these occurrences. What they're doing is, to me at least, worse: Traditional gynocentric…
/r/MensRights09/09/13 06:09 PM
4

I can't even begin to point out the ways in which this is utterly absurd - who is more likely to agree with the statement "Women can rape men", a feminist or your grandpa? Although consideration of male victims is within the scope of the legal statutes, it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman. Mary P. Koss, a very influenti…
/r/MensRights08/09/13 09:58 PM
4

FGM doesn't even PRETEND to medical justification Absolutely incorrect.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 06:06 PM
1

No, because feminist "logic" dictates that the evil P-trinity (Penis, Patriarchy, Privilege) ensures women are always victims.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 08:18 PM
10

Sounds like too much sexism in HR is the problem.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 07:53 PM
1

"Objectification" is not a bad thing. It's completely natural, we all judge people by which aspects of theirs are useful to us. Do you want efficient co-workers who ease your workload? You're objectifying them! I mean, do the people who complain about "objectification" want people to "subjectify" others?
/r/MensRights05/09/13 12:02 AM
2

You say tomato, I say tomato.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 11:31 PM
1

She is rape-culture!
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:24 PM
18

Where I live it's legal to sell sex, but not to buy it. I know, it's completely retarded, but then again so are most people who live here.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:20 PM
2

If it's put up by a feminist group (which is likely, as they dominate the narrative surrounding sexual matters and that this poster is extremely gynocentric) the "helpful tips" for men will be: Don't rape, you rapist!
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:18 PM
34

Perhaps male reporters could start going into women's locker rooms. Let's see how well that plays out...
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:08 PM
4

Feel free to post about men being treated fairly qith equal rights and equal protection. I don't expect many posts though.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 07:03 PM
1

We already live in a feminist society, all you need to do to be a feminist is support the status quo. Alliansen appointed this incredibly sexist liar as an expert on the council on men and equality. Socialdemokraterna completely ratified feminst theory in Regeringsskrivelsen SKR 2002/2003:140 of Patriarchy Theory (könsmaktsordningen). No issue must be dealt with without taking feminist theory into consideration. We have laws of abuse of female (kvinnofridskränkning) which all parties support, bu…
/r/MensRights02/09/13 06:58 PM
2

That is not my impression. Maybe some individual politicians, but if you are going to ratify women's special status in your party programmes every year and every election, you actually need to believe in it, so the parties as a whole are feminist.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:32 PM
1

At 19 or 20, (this may be a generalization, but) you probably haven't yet personally experienced a lot of the institutionalized sexism that favors women over men yet Surely, he's been to school for at least a good portion of those 20 years...
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:24 PM
3

Assume whatever you want! Would you mind answering my questions on your Q&A-thread?
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:07 PM
3

I feel that I should point out that this isn't the feminist party of Sweden. All established political parties are feminist, in one way or another. But Feminist Initiative is a left wing splinter group of high-profile famous feminist academics and politicians who felt that the other feminist parties didn't focus enough (read: not entirely) on feminism, so it is fair to say that it is the most feminist political party of Sweden.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 11:01 PM
1

If you were to call them out, you'd be attacked for being a misogynist. Also, most likely a rapist as well. They are feminists after all, I personally don't think they're very extreme, but maybe that's because I'm used to feminism by now. I grew up with this sort of thing all throughout the nineties and early noughties, so they're fairly loud but not exactly extremists.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 10:54 PM
1

I see you haven't been to Sweden... These people are high-ranking politicians who sadly command a lot of respect and are never questioned on their sexist chauvinist bigotry. They espouse our state religion, so their hateful ideology is looked upon favourably.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 05:50 PM
5

I'd just like to point out that the US is the first country to acknowledge men being more commonly the victims of rape. And that's without counting male community victims. I'm fairly willing to bet most countries have higher rates of male victimisation than female victimisation, but it isn't acknowledged. Neither by law (gendered rape laws) or by custom (social gynocentrism), and thus we end up with this falsely gendered narrative on rape.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:23 AM
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Completely agree! Let's face it, you can't support a sexist, chauvinist movement and ideology and then claim to support equality for the victims of said movement and ideology. That's not how it works, if you want to participate in creating an egalitarian society, you need to leave all that bigotry behind. If not, you remain a bigot.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 12:15 AM
3

Fairly sure that marriage was pretty much a requirement for male nobility back in the day, so marriage really has no bearing on whether they were gay or bi. If I recall correctly, Augustus enacted a law stating that noble men had to marry before a certain age as too many just chose not to. Might be mistaken about that, may have been from some sort of historical fiction as well.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 06:27 PM
1

Why would they be separate? Do they teach different methods of self-defence to women and men?
/r/MensRights29/08/13 06:21 PM
10

Still, most leftist opinions are detrimental to men and boys, as are most right wing opinions.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 06:15 PM
1

I remember reading in one of those reports that both men and women are many times more likely to murder men than they are to murder women. I think it was something like men are 3 times more likely to murder a man, and women are four times more likely to murder a man. I would think that gender bias definitely plays into the victimisation rates to a certain degree. I would also posit that I find it likely that men more often put themselves in positions and situations in which they are more likely …
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:45 PM
5

That's because male consent is not considered important, male consent is something completely alien to these people. They are the "rape-culture".
/r/MensRights29/08/13 03:28 PM
3

Certainly, as an answer to both. Of course, to achieve true equality we'd need to recreate the exact same conditions men were forced to fight in, to make sure they suffer the exact same hardships. This'll of course take a lot of effort, but if we apply ourselves I believe we can make it work!
/r/MensRights26/08/13 11:19 PM
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I didn't change the story You changed parts of it, and added to others. and also didn't feel that these details change the story at all. Complete horseshit. You left out every single piece of evidence that actually has any bearing on whether it was rape or drunken sex... I find it unlikely they sobered up in less than a one mile drive, and considering one of them was a virgin (at 25!) who wanted to "wait for the right guy" I'm going to go ahead and say they didn't sober up and ask for sex. Why? …
/r/MensRights26/08/13 11:15 PM
3

What can we do to fix war casualties' lady problem? I'd suggest we conscript only women for the foreseeable future, start a couple of wars, send them there and wait until female casualties equal those of men, at least the known male casualties of the last couple of hundred years. Then we call it even and pull out. Everyone's pleased and we've achieved equality!
/r/MensRights26/08/13 10:31 PM
1

When are you going to start prosecuting women for rape? When are you going to stop discriminating against men in politics? When are you going to stop discriminating against boys in education? When are you going to stop discriminating against men in the labour market? When are you going to stop lying about domestic violence and rape as gendered crimes and the stats surrounding them? When are you going to give fathers equal rights? When are you going to give men reproductive rights? When are you g…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 09:52 PM
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I thought it wasn't a terribly contentious issue that we should be advocating against rape of people regardless of sex/gender/identity of either the victim or the perpetrator. It isn't unless you've been indoctrinated with a hateful dogmatic religious ideology that espouses that rape is gendered and a result of the devil (Patriarchy). If you have, then it becomes contentious.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:35 PM
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Doesn't the same apply to women-only spaces? Something feminists are crazy about.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:32 PM
1

Because I'm not a gynocentrist.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:27 PM
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An unbelievably sexist campaign, but that's what you get when feminists control the narrative and laws around sexual assault. They are themselves unbelievably sexist and can't help it.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:18 PM
2

Yep, I most certainly concur, but you have SJWs and other idiots who spread it like the gospel of their feminist church and pretty much everyone with a working brain that has not been indoctrinated with hatred is afraid to call them out on their bullshit.
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:15 PM
1

Now you have made additions and changes to the original story. They went from "got almost passed out" to "completely passed out". They got vaginal tearing (though not exactly proof of rape, rough sex is quite common). You never mentioned anything about him saying them getting that drunk was their consent originally, and frankly it sounds fishy, no-one says that. I have not implied he was in any way inhibited, so don't know what you're getting at there. It is important that you give all the neces…
/r/MensRights26/08/13 07:11 PM
1

Did you mean to include some sort of link?
/r/MensRights25/08/13 08:47 PM
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Yeah, it's really very surprising that most of us dislike, hate, loathe a religion that lies about us, and keeps us disadvantaged in relation to their preferred demographic and then proceeds to lie about that as well. Here's a good idea that we're spreading, feminism must be exposed for the sexist bigotry that it is (I'd prefer it to be eradicated) and men must be granted equal rights and equal protection. But, we don't want to be spewing anger and hate...
/r/MensRights25/08/13 08:19 PM
1

How can you say they obviously didn't give consent? Were you there? Did he force himself on them against their will? Are you absolutely certain they didn't agree to sex/ask him for sex/initiate sex? Or do you think they were too drunk to be held accountable for their actions and choices? If they had walked home and given money to a homeless man asking for change they saw on the street in their drunken state, would it have been theft? Would it have been rape is this man had accepted her request t…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 07:05 PM
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And, statistically your experience puts you among the "97% of rapists who walk free" that idiots with no actual insight into how the justice system works (especially in regards to female rape cases) like to spread around. Even though you were the victim of a crime, you are a rapist in their eyes, and the only reason you walked is because there wasn't enough evidence to prove you did it, and this darned "patriarchy" is so insensitive to women as to not take their feelings as absolute proof.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:41 PM
2

And if these men were women, we wouldn't hear the end of what a living hell the islamic world is for women.
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:37 PM
1

Nontransferable means they have to take it or else they lose it, it's not so much an incentive, more of a way to force social arrangements on families. I think paternity leave is a great idea, but the parental leave (föräldraförsäkringen) should be entirely transferable. The mother has 14 weeks off work available to her in conjunction with the birth (7 prior to, and 7 afterwards), the dad has 10 days (two weeks). After that there is parental leave consisting of 480 days: Currently, each parent h…
/r/MensRights25/08/13 06:33 PM
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I wouldn't want one for boys. Lying, however blatantly and obviously, to them to make them live in false fear is not going to do them any good. Even if the lie is so obvious as this one, if it's told enough times people will believe it. I grant you that this organisation is sexist for not doing the same for boys, but in this case, I'd have to say that their fear and hate-mongering is the bigger issue.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 11:01 PM
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You sound like a good mother, I sincerely hope you didn't have him mutilated at birth, not doing so'd make you a great mother.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:57 PM
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Do they really think there is an epidemic of women being attacked within their workplaces? Feminists believe there is an epidemic of women being attacked, full stop. In the street, at home, at work, in hospitals, by police.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 10:51 PM
1

So, we should shut up about alimony, genital mutilation, conscription, gendered rape and domestic violence laws, false accusations, bias in the justice system, the erosion of due process, discrimination in the workplace, suicide, homicide, homelessness, violent victimisation, sexual victimisation, family courts, custody issues and child support, etc... to focus on the education system's anti-male culture? Something we already focus on and address, nonetheless. Because some feminist bigot doesn't…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:18 PM
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That is, if the law even acknowledges women can rape. Most legislations don't.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:09 PM
1

Oh, well, there have been ups and downs. Unfortunately though, neither of these two examples have come about due to it being discriminatory against men, as there is no government in the world that acknowledges men are discriminated against. For instance, the Defence Minister in my country, Sweden, who himself was a conscientious objector when he was conscripted (and thus clearly saw the injustice in miltary enslavement) claimed that the end of conscription was a means to achieve equality for wom…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:01 PM
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Some countries have removed conscription. Some countries have begun to make criminal law gender neutral, whereby men will eventually gain equal protection under the law.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:56 PM
0

I've always believed that women should be encouraged to dress however they want to dress in public (as should men) without making "moral" judgments as to whether the woman is scantily clad, naked, well dressed, shabbily dressed, etc. There should be no judgment, period. This seems a very unrealistic goal. How we dress tells others who we are. If someone wears a metal outfit, I assume they're metalheads, for instance. I am making a judgement, and I think it's unreasonable to say that I shouldn't.…
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:42 PM
1

So do these Safe Homes Acts only apply to women, or was that just the judge's personal bias? It seems she believes only women can be victims of domestic violence.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 06:19 PM
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Exactly, they start with the assumption that it is something that needs to be proven (either way), that's how it works with other crimes, and how it should work with this crime.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:56 PM
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I believe that's what "unfounded" means. It's neither proven false nor proven to have happened. Also, one hell of a sexist article. Does Virginia law state that only women can be raped? "End Violence against Women International"...
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:45 PM
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Swede here, you need to understand that though people usually say that we are an "irreligious" people (the vast majority of us are atheists), we still very much have a state-sanctioned religion, namely feminism. It is frowned upon to oppose it, or even question it, and we are indoctrinated with it from pretty much day one. All throughout school, we are force-fed feminism, as we turn on the TV or read a newspaper, we are force-fed feminism, any public discussion usually involves references to fem…
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:38 PM
4

Being angry doesn't mean they become evil or prone to ruin someone's life.
/r/MensRights18/08/13 05:19 PM
4

In what way is this "un-feministic"? This is very clearly a feminist opinion.
/r/MensRights17/08/13 10:42 PM
0

Well, it's gender neutral, that's a plus! However, it's a load of rubbish which won't prevent sexual assault, any more than telling people that the way to prevent murder is not to stab other people in the chest. Or that the way to prevent assault and battery is not to smash a glass in other people's faces...
/r/MensRights15/08/13 09:49 PM
3

Child support is an extension of alimony.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 09:34 PM
2

Bringing up imaginary entities as some sort of axiom makes the argument invalid and thus irrelevant. If someone had commented: It's both. The international Jewry at its finest, fucking over both genders. I am fairly sure you'd agree with downvoting such idiotic tripe, that is both offensive and just plain stupid.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 09:15 PM
6

The longevity gap is down to various factors, not merely biology. More men die from diseases, are murdered, commit suicide, are killed in war, have stressful jobs (physically and mentally). I am not blaming women at all for any of this. I am blaming gynocentrists (traditionalists and feminists). I don't are what?
/r/MensRights12/08/13 08:52 PM
5

HumanityBites is ManWomanMyth. It's his new channel.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:29 PM
14

I guess she acknowledges that drunk sex isn't rape, then! That is good.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:27 PM
3

Ok, women live longer, die far less from disease and violence (which they experience far less of during their lives), they receive preferentially discriminatory behaviour from courts, education and government from they day they are born. They have more legal protection, they can commit many crimes with impunity, giving a woman a slap horrifies people, beating men or mutilating them is cheered on (especially when done by a woman). Women have actual legal privileges, whereas men do not, only legal…
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:25 PM
3

Because you proudly admit to having worn a t-shirt that stated you were a sexist? To tatters no less.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 06:03 PM
3

Could not give a fuck about what it's called. The core tenets, beliefs, actions and goals are what concern me. None of it appeals to me in any way. They're bigots, every last one of them.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:59 PM
1

One of the reasons I don't support Slutwalk.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 05:50 PM
2

So, rape is a gender issue because feminists are chauvinistic bigots with a clear sexist agenda, but we should support a feminist group activity on the matter that grossly exaggerates the prevalence of rape and misrepresents societal views on male-perpetrated rape and for the most part ignores female-perpetrated rape (thus keeping the rape narrative gendered and false)? No, not buying it.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 06:02 PM
2

The only way rape is a gender issue is because women have had the privilege of legal protection and judicial remedy from the crime (when committed by a man), and the privilege of not receiving any punishment for raping others. That and the fact that feminists have lied through their teeth to make it seem like a gender issue (just like they did with DV), that the fact that some women are raped is indicative of a culture that condones female rape and promotes violence against women. No one is anti…
/r/MensRights11/08/13 05:47 PM
1

So, the US is at least ahead of most countries..?
/r/MensRights09/08/13 09:37 PM
1

And at the top of that list, we'll find feminism.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 09:33 PM
1

A feminist lying! Big surprise?! Note really...
/r/MensRights09/08/13 09:21 PM
2

See how they don't frame it as "toxic femininity is to blame" and girls have an anti-talent culture, the way they do when the same is brought up with boys. No matter what, girls and women are victims whilst boys and men bring it on themselves and usually end up victimising girls and women in the process. Strange, isn't it?
/r/MensRights06/08/13 07:42 PM
1

Still, I asked for countries that punished female rape victims for being raped. Not countries that had unreasonable standards to prove rape. I also requested to see the law itself, precisely because I knew somethig like this would come up. And I never said it was okay, quite the opposite, that was disingenuous of you.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 07:34 PM
1

Not true at all. So, I guess you completely missed that part about Ne Temere, the papal decree which was law in Eire (being a Catholic nation) stating that any offspring resulting from mixed-faith couples were required to be raised Catholic. Nope. So, you are agreeing that it doesn't negate the fact that Protestants fled the country, were killed, suffered discrimination in Eire and that thusly the Protestant community was decimated over the years? As I said, people would object for the same reas…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:32 PM
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UAE law states a rape conviction can only be secured after a confession or as the result of testimony from four adult male witnesses to the crime. Clearly, I wasn't clear enough in my request. I am interested in knowing whether there are any countries whose legal statute requires female rape victims to be punished for being raped, not countries that have unreasonably high demands to prove rape. As was suggested by the OP.
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:10 PM
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I asked for countries whose legal statutes punished female rape victims for being raped. UAE law states a rape conviction can only be secured after a confession or as the result of testimony from four adult male witnesses to the crime. So, they don't actually punish female rape victims by law. They just have unreasonable demands for female rape to be proven, and those cases which don't reach this standard are then not considered rape. Now, does the UAE acknowledge male rape? And do they deal wit…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 06:07 PM
0

My grandparents were a catholic and a protestant, and they moved the south because of bigotry in the North. Which meant that their offspring had to be raised Catholic by law. I think that is discriminatory and bigotry. And this does not negate that the Protestant community in the south has been decimated over the years, through discrimination and threats. A small group of fools did cause trouble - these people (Protestant marchers) traditionally march through catholic and nationalist areas to ce…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:53 PM
0

rape laws you sometimes find where a woman who is raped is punished for having been raped or for having had extramarital sex even though she was forced. Which laws are those? Which countries' laws state that female rape victims are to be punished? And could you please provide a link showcasing those laws? In most of the world, legal doctrine dictates that rape is a crime committed by a man against a woman. How is that for unfair? Women cannot be convicted of rape, and men cannot be victims of ra…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 12:54 AM
0

Bollocks, the Protestant population has decreased in the Republic due to Nationalist attacks and murder campaigns on Protestant communities, Protestants left the South in large numbers (not entirely voluntarily), and those who remained were not allowed to bring up their children in their faith if they married a Catholic, because of the Ne Temere decree. When FAIR marched through Dublin commemorating the victims of Nationalist violence, they were attacked. Attacks on Orange halls, and I remember …
/r/MensRights05/08/13 12:40 AM
6

Feminists are a group of people who have chosen an ideology. White people are a group of people who were born white, there was no choice involved.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 11:40 PM
1

I couldn't give two flying fucks about your origins. They are completely irrelevant to the discussion. So, we've established they are allowed to be there, they are granted sovereignty which they use to remain British living on British soil, protected by British troops. So, there is no occupation. Unless you are saying that the Irish army is occupying Eire? I say leave Eire for the Nationalists, and Northern Ireland for the Unionists, with British troops in the north and Irish troops in the south…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 11:29 PM
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Seeing as men are deprived and far from equal to women, and people don't see it now, I doubt they ever will. I sometimes fear that gynocentrism is biological and not cultural.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:29 PM
1

And those same people want the army there to protect them. So, which is it? Do they, as inhabitants descended from immigrants, have a right to sovereignty and thus military protection from their own government against Nationalist aggression? Or are they, as inhabitants descended from immigrants, not granted sovereignty and protection from their own government against Nationalist aggression? There is no military occupation in NI, there are British troops on British soil (as dictated by the majori…
/r/MensRights04/08/13 09:20 PM
1

You have told me the version of history that you have been given. I'm tell you what actually happened. First of all, I have not been taught anything with regards to Irish history, as I am not Irish. I've learnt it all on my own. Second, you agree with me: They are largely descendants of immigrants. Where we seem to differ is that I don't think their immigrant status has any bearing on their right to live in their own country. The correct analogy would have the German army still occupying Poland …
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:46 PM
2

There you go again with the "respect". Rude? Who gives a toss? Many consider it rude and disrespectful to use curse words. Should those who do that be called out? Abusive? If the worst form of "abuse" you have to put up with is being shouted at by strangers, you should consider yourself quite lucky.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:21 PM
1

Loyalists are predominantly people whos descendants that were transplanted to Ireland on the promise of land. Yes, I've already told you how it was. There is absolutely no need to keep repeating it back to me. You know that the people living in Poland are mainly descendants of people who moved/were moved there and displaced the Germans who originally lived there, clearly the Polish Army is an occupying force!
/r/MensRights04/08/13 08:18 PM
4

Isn't it odd how similar Antisemite beliefs and Feminist beliefs are, just replace the group antisemites (Jews) hate with the group feminists hate (men), and you basically have the same worldview.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:27 PM
0

So, you're some sort of moral crusader now? Should we call out people not holding the door open for others? After all, the world would be a much nicer place if everyone did that. Having things shouted at you is a non-issue. People need to learn to deal with it.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:17 PM
1

Guess what else is frowned upon, sitting next to someone on a bus when tehre are free seats elsewhere. Is that really bad? Should it be called out? Does it make others look bad when people do it? I mean, it is far more of an invasion of personal space than shouting something at someone.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:07 PM
1

Invading someone's personal space? By telling them something? No-one needs to respect anyone else, there's no law saying respect is mandatory. Women do it, you just choose to ignore it. I don't think poorly of other women because some women choose to make me uncomfortable (which is within their rights and not a crime). That would be sexist.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:04 PM
1

The British Army are occupying their own land? The inhabitants are British, by choice, and prefer having the British Army there to defend them from Nationalist violence. The only alternatives are for them to leave their homes and mass-emigrate or to have loyalist paramilitaries defend them. Loyalists are largely descendants of people that immigrated there during the plantation in the 17th century, no need to repeat to me what I've already told you. So what? They still live there. They were born …
/r/MensRights04/08/13 07:02 PM
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Yeah, saying things is "REALLY bad"... Why should they be called out? If someone is offended by something someone says to them, so what? You were offended, deal with it. It shouldn't be a crime to offend someone. I wish that men who did this could be held accountable for their conduct because it gives men like me and you (the majority of men out there, I HOPE) a really bad name. Yeah, and the women who do it give women a bad name... Wait, a minute, that's an incredibly sexist thing to say. Just …
/r/MensRights03/08/13 10:51 PM
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Words are rape? All of a sudden rape culture makes sense! Also, quit trolling, you're quite horrible at it.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 10:45 PM
1

So, you've finally conceded that loyalists were the majority in the North and that they are not an occupying force? It is not key or even relevant, as the point still stands that Republican violence has caused a lot of suffering in Ulster. If you had read the initial reply and not just assumed it said something it didn't, you'd have seen that I never stated Republican violence was unprovoked. The brave Irish Nationalists, so benign and gracious.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 10:36 PM
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Northern Ireland was set up in such a way that if you were not loyalist, you had fewer rights. Completely irrelevant. Loyalists were not the existing population. Loyalists for the most part were people that were moved to Ireland on the promise of land. Loyalists were mostly descendants from planters who moved to Ulster in the 17th century. By the time of Home Rule (and the ensuing Irish war of Independence), the majority of those who inhabited the area in the north-east of Ireland were of a loya…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 09:27 PM
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You have a very warped view of Irish and Ulster history. The majority population of the six counties were majority unionist before Home Rule was brought into question as a result of the plantation in the 17th century and subsequent immigration. They were the existing population, republicans were in minority in that part of the island. The Fourth Home Rule Bill acknowledged this and set up two different self-governing Irish countries: Southern Ireland and Northern Ireland. The reason for this was…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:24 PM
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I don't know, why do women do it? I doubt they think it's a "good idea", they probably think it's funny is all. Anyway, why bother trying to understand them? It's not like what they're doing is a problem or is causing harm. When they start attacking me and think they're going to get away with it because I should "man up" and let women hit me or whatever, that's a problem. As long as they limit it to shouting and whistling, who cares? Live and let live.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 07:09 PM
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Are you comparing the existence of NI to the occupation of Iraq?! NI is a country in its own right, with a population that wishes to remain part of the UK, and does not want to be part of unified Irish republic. How exactly are those people occupying someone else's country? Or are you saying that they're occupying their own country?
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:47 PM
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No need to call it sectarian, it is political violence. Celtic are a club famous for its nationalist and republican leanings and the people of NI have suffered immensely due to nationalism and republicanism. Though a lot of attacks are manifested through sectarianism, it is a political issue.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 06:23 PM
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So being angry at the injustices you face and the discrimination you suffer is... bad? Hmm, perhaps we should all just "man up" and take it like earlier generations of men did, I mean, sure they were oppressed and all that but they just kept going and didn't complain!
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:41 AM
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Like they proposed doing in the UK? Don't know if it passed, but the idea wasn't very popular...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 09:56 PM
1

I learned about reddit through GWW, I learned about GWW through AVfM, I learned about AVfM through the Youtube MRM community, which I learned about through MWM.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:47 PM
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If you are an egalitarian, I'd suggest you call yourself that. That's what I do. I am an MRA, but that can mean so many things, so I have to specify it by adding I'm an antifeminist and egalitarian. As in, I think men deserve equal rights to women and I don't believe in the feminist worldview.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:28 PM
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Torts are civil wrongs, that are not treated under criminal law. I don't know which year men stopped being held accountable for their wives' torts, they are no longer in any Western countries that I know of. I wouldn't say wives were considered, or indeed were, their husbands' legal property, more like legal wards in a similar way to how children are their parents' wards.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 11:24 PM
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I believe torts still exist, it's just not a common word to be used. Just a heads up, the "women's lib" thing came in the late sixties, while the suffragist movement, from which the suffragettes came was mainly in the 19th century. Conscription was my main contention, so you were partially right about that. :) I am aware of the Rostker v. Goldberg case.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:32 AM
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I'll try to be brief as I am quite tired and should be getting to bed. Does this sound as a valid argument?: I identify as a communist and my definition of "communism" is the idea that the government should respect and protect property rights and stay out of people's lives. How you identify and your chosen definition of your ideology is irrelevant. I could claim to be a national socialist and say that my national socialism is about Jews and aryans having equal rights and responsibilities. What o…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:24 AM
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There is no equality kind, all feminism is based on gynocentrism.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 01:44 AM
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Indeed, there were jobs that were out of reach for women, e.g. coal mining. And I think married women were precluded from practicing law amongst other things. This I believe was a result of coverture, whereby a married woman's legal identity was subsumed by the couple's joint legal identity headed by the husband, so he took on all the legal responsibilities and abilities. This is why men were punished for their wives' legal transgressions (torts) and were responsible for the family's finances in…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 01:38 AM
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Supporting gynocentrism, whether it be feminism or traditional chivalry/white-knighting.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 12:53 AM
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Women gaining the national/federal vote without the obligations men had for that right/privilege (see military service) meant an imbalance in the gender equity of those days (note: equity, not equality). In a way it was detrimental to men's lives, as men no longer had the ability to decide if their leader would be one who'd send them off to war or not (an ability they'd only recently got, mind you). So, yes, in a way, men were somewhat negatively affected by this, in that they lost some of their…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 12:43 AM
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I think it was as sexist as modern feminism. I would have preferred an egalitarian movement, obviously, one that didn't increase female privileges at the expense of men.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 07:32 PM
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It's just that: Because if we cannot prove someone raped you, the accusation must be false. was one of the most idiotic things I've heard this year. That is not, in any way, how one would prove a false accusation has been made. If it were, we'd currently have a false accusation rate of ~94%... In order to be charged with a false accusation, police would have to be able to prove that the accusation was false and malicious. Not finding any corresponding evidence for the accusation would not suffic…
/r/MensRights31/07/13 07:31 PM
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I'll say that again. Proving rape is MUCH HARDER by design. Beyond a reasonable doubt. Explain how proving a rape is much harder than proving a false accusation of rape. But if you cannot prove the rape beyond a reasonable doubt than an overzealous prosecutor could use that fact alone to build 80% of a case of 'false accusation.' Because if we cannot prove someone raped you, the accusation must be false. Are you an idiot?
/r/MensRights31/07/13 02:25 AM
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Feminism: It's about equality! I swear, it's not misandry and chauvinism using the culturally accepted gynocentric views of old to appear to be about equality. /s
/r/MensRights31/07/13 02:15 AM
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Ah, the old "feminism was originally about equality"-tripe. Along with the usual gynocentrism regarding both history and rape discourse. And the reproductive choice debate. Why your post is upvoted is beyond me... It's just another form of misandry.
/r/MensRights31/07/13 01:33 AM
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Well, cissexual women, of course.
/r/MensRights30/07/13 12:02 AM
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I am not sure there have ever been any legislation passed primarily for the benefit of men. There have been legislation favouring men (quite some time ago) but they were usually a sort of payment for men having certain obligations/responsibilities/duties, and others have been to create a sort of balance (equity if you like) between men's and women's privileges.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 10:59 PM
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I am not American, so I cannot answer that. But it sounds about right to how I have understood the situation.
/r/MensRights29/07/13 10:46 PM
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I am sort of on the fence about this. On the one hand, I don't think that anyone should have the power to decide what others do with their bodies (the same reason I am for legalising all drugs, for outlawing genital mutilation, against conscription, etc...), but on the other hand, marriage is usually coupled with the expectation of pregnancies and children. That was its primary purpose, and I reckon probably still is. What if you marry someone and then they go and have a vasectomy/tubectomy with…
/r/MensRights29/07/13 08:54 PM
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Pendulum? Too far?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 08:14 PM
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What's bigotted about disliking or even hating an ideology based on lies and hate? If I were to say that the world would be a better place if all homophobes stopped being bigots, would that be bigotry? There is nothing bigotted about wanting to rid the world of others' chosen bigotry (I don't care that it's learned from childhood, I was taught the same things, yet I managed to make the choice to not support it).
/r/MensRights29/07/13 08:13 PM
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woman-on-woman rape in prisons is actually significantly higher than male-on-male rape in jail. However it is still something to be addressed (I don't know why feminism continues to ignores this). And admit that women rape? But, then how are they to justify their blatant bigotry in regards to gendered rape policies?
/r/MensRights29/07/13 08:00 PM
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Indeed, if feminism weren't a large and powerful ideology that is daily causing so much suffering, it'd be funny. If it were a fringe movement without any power to dictate social and legal policies, we could laugh at its stupidity and bigotry. But, alas...
/r/MensRights29/07/13 12:19 AM
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And how much better off we would be if they just fucked off. Nay, how much better off the world would be if their bigotry were eradicated tomorrow.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 12:38 AM
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So, no concern for the actual victims of the crime comitted? Sickening...
/r/MensRights27/07/13 11:44 PM
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Why I'm getting into this? Because I think the child has a right to a relationship with both parents if willing, regardless of their previous actions. I think it extraordinarily cruel to deprive a willing parent of their child and unless the child itself is in any danger, this should never be used as a punishment. Now, should this punishment only extend to rapists? What if you have a child with someone who beats you (not the child), should your partner lose custody (surely, you'd not want to fac…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 06:45 PM
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Does this only apply to rapists? Or are people convicted of theft also unable to take care of their children? How about murderers?
/r/MensRights25/07/13 10:36 PM
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I don't see a problem with this. It's an advert directed at the one group of people that has any actual possibility of reducing teenage pregnancies: Teenage-girls.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 07:26 PM
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I don't think that being convicted of a crime should result in losing custody. Unless it can be proven that the rapist is likely to be a recidivist and might have an inclination to rape her own child, in which case it should be taken into account in custody proceedings. That seems like a cruel and unusual punishment. The default should still be shared custody, if both are willing.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 07:23 PM
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I am not surprised, and not angered by this in the least bit. To know that there are people who think things like this doesn't infuriate me. However, knowing that this is the majority view for politically involved people (or at least, how they choose to present their views and opinions) does infuriate me. It also infuriates me that no-one, at any level, in any institution, teaches that male conscription is oppression of men. But, knowing that there are some women who are so self-obsessed and hav…
/r/MensRights22/07/13 11:20 PM
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I'm just going to interject that "radical" means of or having roots, so a radical feminist is someone whose roots are feminist, who's feminist to the core so to speak. Also, shame on you for still trying to talk with feminists, they're all bigots, nothing's going to change that, just realise this and move on.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 11:13 PM
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Fair point. Though, I feel that by not only keeping the demonisation of male sexuality, but enforcing it while removing the demonisation of female sexuality, they invented the current zeitgeist where women's sexuality is praised but men's is denigrated.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 08:13 PM
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When the rapist is excused by focussing on the things the woman did that caused him to lose control, that is insulting to me as a man. It is not excusing, it's an attempt at explaining and understanding. Whether they get it right or wrong, it is not excusing or condoning the crime. The fact that you find it insulting to suggest that rapists can't control themselves doesn't mean that people think men can't control themselves. That's just you and your feminist pals. Are you going to keep doing thi…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 10:18 PM
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So, you think it's insulting to men that people say that rapists may think a certain way because it implies men (note: not rapists, not men and women, but men) can't control their urges; and then claim you feminists (a group to which you pertain) don't think that? And you don't see how you contradict yourself? I'm going to go ahead and conclude that it was not irony... In addition, I see people on subs like 2X discuss female rapists plenty and actually discuss constructive ways of fighting the p…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:57 PM
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Yet here you are living up to that exact stereotype. Irony or idiocy? You decide, bigot.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:27 PM
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Feminsist propaganda spouting the same old drivel about "Patriarchy" and "male privilege" and disregarding female rapists? No, thanks. Male sexuality is considered as dangerous and filthy because feminists have worked for decades to make sure it is, creating false and biased statistics and holding manifestations to instill this idea.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:16 PM
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Only a feminist would say that claiming rapists think a certain way means that men can't control their urges beacuse they are the only ones who think that... Two points for double bigotry: Female rapists are disregarded, and assuming men are rapists.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:08 PM
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Okay, how about the entire concept of Western masculinity is what has created a stigma about male rape? Are you saying that male rape victims are treated better in non-Western societies? How about the concept of femininity being inherently benign, and gynocentrism mixed with misandry is what has created the stigma around male victims and female perpetrators? If a guy gets raped, do you think he is afraid of a) feminists or b) the fact that society will ignore, belittle and mock him because of in…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 06:44 PM
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I think you'll find the stigma over male rape predates feminism by several millennia, if the Roman concept of 'vir' being defined as one who cannot be penetrated is anything to go by. What does rape have to do with being penetrated? Most men who are raped are enveloped, not penetrated. The laws have always been gynocentric, feminism is merely the latest manifestation of that phenomenon. Indeed, feminists take the idea of men being raped seriously... I guess that's why they gender the discourse o…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:37 AM
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My opinion on the employment law is of little to no concern to the discussion. The law is the way it is, presumably so because a majority of Iowa voters think it just and correct. I would perhaps not be happy about it, but I would most certainly not bring a lawsuit for wrongful termination or claim it was sex discrimination, as the law is gender-neutral.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 12:49 AM
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Except the court never ruled that, they merely upheld the law regarding employment. there is nothing insulting about the court's seemingly correct decision. It is the author of this horribly biased and untruthful article who is projecting her own bigotry onto the all-male (as she likes to point out) court, and then lies about their underlying motives who is insulting and misandrous.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 10:45 PM
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This is a complete misrepresentation of the court's decision, in true feminist style of course: Lie, lie, lie and then lie some more.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 10:41 PM
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Username is relevant?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 10:20 PM
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Wait, so foetuses have a right to life in Minnesota?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 08:41 PM
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First off, it falsely genders the crime of rape. Suggesting rape is something men commit and women suffer is... well, sexist. It is an archaic view of how the crime was legally defined (and so remains in most of the world), that never had and still doesn't have any bearing on reality. Then there's the issue of pointing out the obvious as if it is some sort of revelation: Rape is bad, m'kay? Would murder ads telling blacks not to kill people be appropriate or would they be offensive? Especially s…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 12:52 AM
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Here's the thing, if she claims she believes victims: Shouldn't she believe every single man accused of rape who denies it? If she believes a woman who makes a rape claim to be a victim, shouldn't she also believe a man who claims to be a false accusation victim? Shouldn't she also believe Zimmermann who claims to have been a victim and to have acted in self-defence? Or does this philosophy of believing each and every claim no matter what (and the idea that not doing so constitutes victim blamin…
/r/MensRights18/07/13 12:10 AM
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I fully expect the film to come from a female supremacist perspective. Are you saying that feminists claim that masculinity is toxic because men are discriminated against? For that to be true, they'd have to admit male oppression and their own role in it... They don't amount to the same thing to me, one implies that there is something wrong with the way boys and men deal with issues, the other implies that the discrimination men and boys face drives some to extreme acts, such as suicide. I consi…
/r/MensRights17/07/13 10:06 PM
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So, basically this documentary is going to blame men and boys for society treating them badly instead of exploring the many ways in which men face discrimination/oppression that likely are the cause of gender disparities? In other words, it'll be another feminist attempt to exculpate themselves and shift the blame onto men by demonising them?
/r/MensRights15/07/13 10:17 AM
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And why are they more certain in their desire to die? Why aren't men attempting suicide in order to gain sympathy? Is it because masculinity is toxic or because of Howard men are treated by society? Is it the fault of men and do they need to change or does the fault lie with society and does society's treatment of men and boys need to change? I know which I believe to be true, and I doubt that the makers of this still would agree.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 10:10 AM
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And why would they choose those options? Because of their "toxic" masculinity? Or because society treats them as less worth?
/r/MensRights14/07/13 11:04 PM
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The way you word the title makes it seem like they are not asking how society treats boys and men that might cause these ills and problems, but instead choose to look at ways boys' and men's masculinity causes them to be disproportionately affected. Is that true? Do they look at how the fact that society treats men and boys like shit that deserve no compassion or help, that society treats them like a problem and dismisses their concerns might affect men and boys negatively? Or are they going to …
/r/MensRights14/07/13 11:02 PM
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Yes, but is this due to masculinity being toxic (which I assume is what the makers of that picture wish to express, #TheMaskYouLiveIn) or due to society treating boys like shit and not listening to their needs and wishes?
/r/MensRights14/07/13 10:50 PM
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I don't see how you answered my questions. But, okay, I'll give you that forced to was the wrong choice of words. Expected to, perhaps.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 10:43 PM
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Let me guess: The basic message of the film is that masculinity is toxic and evil and causes society harm, and naturally negatively affects women. It will feature prominent feminist "specialists" on men, maleness and masculinity (read: people who make a living claiming men are a problem, and have only ever studied men under the feminists premise of men being a problem). And they will cherry-pick statistics to make it seem like masculinity is the source of all evil that befalls women, and disrega…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 10:37 PM
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"How does it feel to be a problem? To have your very body and the bodies of your children to be assume to be criminal, violent, malignant." Though this question is most aptly directed towards black men, it applies to all men. Society views you as a problem, the embodiment of evil; such is the zeitgeist. Look to the 'Don't be that guy'-posters, look to the articles newspapers run day in and day out that state that men are the problem, and no-one bats an eye. It is the one bigotry that is yet to b…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 10:18 PM
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Is that what you said? Is wanting to ban killing 17-year-olds different from wanting to ban killing foetuses, if you take into consideration that the people who oppose abortion believe that foetuses are human beings with a worth equal to a 17-year-old? I don't think they are different arguments, so I think that when debating the pro-abortion point of view you should focus on whether or not the foetus is a human being with a right to life. Mocking someone for not taking into account why people wo…
/r/MensRights14/07/13 09:59 PM
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So, this was a case of trapping a man in marriage "by saying they'll drop the charges if they agree".
/r/MensRights14/07/13 07:23 PM
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New?
/r/MensRights14/07/13 06:42 PM
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But remember, guys, feminists are not bigots! They're for equality! /s
/r/MensRights14/07/13 06:36 PM
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Pretty sure you're talking to a troll. No-one can be that stupid.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 06:15 PM
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But feminism is about equality! Surely, they'll soon make a new campaign telling girls to respect boys and to consider boys' feelings, etc... Right? /s
/r/MensRights14/07/13 12:06 AM
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Absolutely astounding and horrible. Her lawyer doesn't do a very good job handling the case it seems. She brings up past abuse of her client as mitigating factors, I wonder: does this also apply to male rapists? Many, if not most, of them have a history of being raped as a child themselves. She also states that her client was under the influence during the crime as a mitigating factor, does this also apply to male rapists? Or does being drunk all of a sudden excuse or make the crime less egregio…
/r/MensRights13/07/13 09:40 PM
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I don't hold any belief concerning the prevalence of either crime. Please stop attributing your beliefs about my views onto me, instead read what is written. I just explicitly stated that I don't know about the exact prevalence of either crime. And I have already told you about the data on which I base my 'indecisiveness': "The numbers I hear most commonly cited are: 6-12% of reported rapes end in conviction and 2-10% are proven to have been fabricated. But what about the rest? What about the 78…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:45 PM
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So, you are saying that in order to be allowed to attempt to outlaw the act of killing 17-year-olds (were it legal), you should be forced to take into account any reason why anyone might want to kill a 17-year-old? That seems wrong... If you believe that killing 17-year-olds is equivalent to murder, isn't that reason enough to want to outlaw the act?
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:15 PM
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If you would be so kind to re-read the sentence you quoted, you'll see that I nowhere stated that false accusations (of rape) are more prevalent than rapes. I don't know exactly how many reported rapes are true and how many are false, and neither do you. I can assure that neither does DemonicBtch. The numbers I hear most commonly cited are: 6-12% of reported rapes end in conviction and 2-10% are proven to have been fabricated. But what about the rest? What about the 78-92%?
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:12 PM
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Yes, but why does she think he should take reasons for wanting to, what in his mind equates to, committing murder whilst attempting to outlaw the act? Shouldn't she rather debate the validity of comparing abortion to murder? Wouldn't that be the obvious area of discussion when it comes to abortion?
/r/MensRights11/07/13 10:09 PM
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Well, I found it funny! Thanks for the laugh :)
/r/MensRights11/07/13 08:30 PM
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I too am unaware of the legal situation in Canada regarding female-perpetrated rape, but if it's like in the UK, rape requires a male perpetrator.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 07:59 PM
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I don't understand that woman's reasoning in why it's wrong for him to never have considered why someone might like to have an abortion when he's trying to ban it. I mean, it is quite likely that he considers abortion to be murder... Say that in the state of Missouri it is legal to kill 17-year-olds, and someone wanted to make it illegal, should he have to take into consideration why some people might want to kill 17-year-olds? I find the reasoning lacking in understanding why people are against…
/r/MensRights11/07/13 07:45 PM
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Can women commit rape according to Canadian law? I'd imagine Canadian law is closely linked to British law, but perhaps they have included female perpetrators in Canada...
/r/MensRights11/07/13 07:36 PM
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In order to demonstrate something to be untrue, you'd have to use logic and facts which are the Patriarchy's main weapons in the war against women!
/r/MensRights11/07/13 07:34 PM
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Let's just assume that you have any sort of reliable proof for your claim that rapes are far more prevalent than false accusations (i.e. not the old 2-8% of all rape reports are proven as false accusations, therefore all other reports are true adage), and that statistical prevalence is a valid reason to prioritise one group over another, shouldn't you prioritise assault/battery victims over rape victims?
/r/MensRights11/07/13 07:25 PM
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When did Elam say women were begging to get raped? Are you referring to the satirical article with a clear disclaimer saying it was satirical? How is saying false accusers are a bigger problem than rapists hate speech? A false accusation can easily be far more destructive than a rape, it is also entirely possible that false accusations are a statistically bigger problem than rapes. Am I correct in saying that claiming that rapists are a bigger problem than false accusers is also hate speech?
/r/MensRights11/07/13 07:20 PM
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I reckon falsesly claiming rape in many cultures is a way for women to trap men in marriage who either don't want to or whose parents don't let them, either by saying they'll drop the charges if they agree to marriage or simply because the law dictates that once sex has occurred the two must marry.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 12:38 AM
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You are impressed by blatant lies?
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:39 PM
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Well, according to many of those people, the scenarios described in the posters are rape. Also, they believe all rape claims are true, so if you show them malicious false reports, it is obviously rape apology.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:35 PM
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Of course you didn't, the Patriarchy told you it wasn't! /s
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:29 PM
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What? Feminists appropiating others' legitimate claims of injustice to further their own false agenda?! I am flabbergasted! /s
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:56 PM
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He's saying MRAs should support the pro-life movement so that feminists accept men be given reproductive rights. Once feminsts cave, we should remove our support. So, it's more of a "Let's intimidate feminists into giving men reproductive rights!" kind of statement. At least, that's how I read it. Of course, it doesn't matter to me, as I would never want to work with feminists, so pressuring them into an egalitarian mindset isn't an option for me. It may be a crude tactic and most likely wouldn'…
/r/MensRights10/07/13 04:53 PM
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Indeed, quite right. I was merely pointing out that the title of the link was disingenuous.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 05:12 PM
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There are many other forms of MGM than just circumcision, there's superincision, castration, penile flaying, subincision, removal of the glans (glandectomy), removal of the shaft or part thereof (penectomy), etc...
/r/MensRights08/07/13 09:43 PM
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That's not upvoted, so I don't know what mean by that. The link text seems out of place and disingenuous. He is arguing using the pro-lifers as a political strategy, to remove that particular female privilege in order to get feminists to agree on getting reproductive equality for men. I don't agree with it from a moral point of view, but from a strictly tactical point of view it seems somewhat valid, though I doubt it'd work as people are still gynocentric and won't recognise that removing femal…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 09:25 PM
1

Such as? Which crimes are women executed for that only exist for women? Or where the punishment is execution for women but not for men? Genuine question by the way, I am not too well-read on Middle Eastern law.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 08:08 PM
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I don't understand, do they believe that only women are stoned to death in the Middle East? Do they believe men are exempt from such punishments? Do you believe this?
/r/MensRights08/07/13 08:04 PM
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She wanted women to be forced to work in the industrial market, whereas she wanted men to be forced into the military and sent off to the trenches. I would not call that equivalent in any way, or egalitarian. I don't know if I've ever heard an MRA say that they are pro-life because 'men don't have any reproductive rights, so therefore this particular venue for women to exercise their reproductive rights should be removed'. Pro-life MRAs seem to be pro-life for much the same reasons others are pr…
/r/MensRights08/07/13 08:02 PM
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If it were, SlutWalk would be the largest congregation of misogynists ever!
/r/MensRights07/07/13 07:50 PM
1

Pankhurst, one the first-wave feminist heroines, was very much for conscription, military for men and industrial for women. She was convinced the Great War was to be one of attrition and therefore Britain'd need every single man they could muster for the slaughter, since the casualties were to be huge and men volunteering obviously wouldn't suffice. She was of course right, it was a war of attrition and Britain needed conscription. I choose not to address your sexist, ageist and racist comment a…
/r/MensRights07/07/13 07:31 PM
1

Conscription is the most clear-cut case of oppression there's ever been, MRAs seem to understand that is oppression, it's everyone else who refuse to acknowledge this. I'll afford myself to be 'classy' when feminism stops being gynocentric, or preferably ceases to exist.
/r/MensRights05/07/13 07:50 PM
6

Volunteering for something automatically excludes oppression... This is so obvious that it is a given. She was clearly (and I do mean clearly) referring to conscripts or impressed men. If you thought she was referring to military volunteers as proof of the oppression men faced, it just furthers my point that you have no concept of what oppression is. The issue is making grand statements about women being raped and killed as civilians in war and ignoring all the men who are raped and killed as ci…
/r/MensRights04/07/13 11:46 PM
5

They are the same thing! Women getting raped is proof of women's oppression, and men getting raped is proof of women's oppression! /s
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:47 PM
3

But, feminists tell us that men commit suicide more often because of male gun culture! So, it is not possible that more men than women die from deliberate overdoses!
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:45 PM
5

I understand that you cannot grasp this fairly simple argument as it doesn't fit your dogmatic narrative.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:44 PM
-4

I don't believe in women's oppression and I also don't believe that feminism ever has been a valid ideology, it's all a load of gynocentric thinly-veiled sexist revisionism. I don't believe women as a group are currently oppressed, and I don't believe they ever were. If you have any questions I'll try to answer them.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:40 PM
6

I don't think you understand oppression. Imagine two homicide victims: Victim A is murdered at random whilst walking home at night by an unknown assailant. Victim B is sentenced to die by the state merely for being themself. One is a victim of homicide and the other is a victim of oppression and homicide. Not to mention that men also were subjected to widescale rape and murder as civilians.
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:38 PM
3

This is not difficult to grasp at all, on any level. She said that this situation arose from the female privilege of being entitled (through Islamic law) to maintenance/support and the uniquely male obligation to support his family combined with the extreme position Afghanistan ended in after a series of destructive wars which left the country, not merely unsafe but also in complete chaos. She said that this privilege backfired. Female privilege hurts women too! This is in the same way feminists…
/r/MensRights04/07/13 08:19 PM
3

The UK has conviction rate of about 60% in rape cases, which is slightly higher than the average convition rate for all crimes. Naturally, this excludes female-perpetrators as the law does not recognise it, which would likely bring the conviction rates down (I imagine it would be more difficult to prove a rape by envelopment than rape by penetration). Seeing as rape is a crime that is difficult to prove (unlike other 'violent' crimes, there is little to no possibility to prove intent to harm in …
/r/MensRights03/07/13 11:39 PM
1

They don't actually remove the clitoris, they sometimes remove part of the clitoris. And the reasons vary, the only reason I've ever heard from the women who actually did the procedure was that they were convinced that the clitoral 'head' prevented pregnancy, they also said that they still felt pleasure and had orgasms, I am fairly willing to bet that they felt considerably less pleasure than they would were they intact though. Same issue as male genital mutilation really. I beg you, don't put y…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 08:22 PM
0

Yes. And no.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 08:10 PM
0

Could literally not give a toss.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 08:09 PM
10

Men are oppressed by female-favouring and gynocentric, misandrous legislation. And it has yet to be addressed. Full stop.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 08:07 PM
6

No, they don't believe that. They're just used to have their dogmatic religion unquestioned, so they lie freely as that has never been an obstacle in the past.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 07:58 PM
1

What proof was there for her claim? Other than her testimony, was there any corroborating evidence?
/r/MensRights03/07/13 07:56 PM
3

The demonisation perhaps, but not the discrimination and oppression men have faced and continue to face.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 07:52 PM
10

I for one have no intention to build bridges with feminists... ever. I want their bigotry eradicated.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 07:51 PM
1

Sad doesn't begin to describe this situation.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:34 PM
1

This is the common situation all around the world. Men have always been conscripted, women were exempt from such rights violations. But, you never hear about it when "gender experts" talk about inequality because it's a female privilege and we are supposed to pretend that they don't exist.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:29 PM
2

Your sister seems to be a sexist bigot who is completely and utterly dedicated to her religion. But, you already knew that, as you already knew she's a feminist.
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:18 PM
1

I see what you did there! But seriously, is she implying that it is a prerequisite not to be able to menstruate to get a high-paying job? I wonder which law she is referring to...
/r/MensRights01/07/13 07:15 PM
2

I had a feminist tell me that it was correct that the law was gendered, because 'experts have looked at the issue and made the law gendered'... She did this whilst admitting that if you counted the men who were raped by envelopment, it'd add up to roughly equal numbers with women who were raped, but still decided that it was better to keep the law gendered because... well, feminists had decided that was better.
/r/MensRights30/06/13 06:45 PM
1

What makes you think they do a lot of good?
/r/MensRights30/06/13 05:21 PM
77

Is this rape-culture?
/r/MensRights27/06/13 11:26 PM
0

Men's rights not only need to be protected, they need to be advanced to match those of women.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 09:30 PM
2

When did I say "girls are big scary liars"? I said feminism is based on lies and spreads even more lies. Never mentioned women or girls... I am not American, nor what you'd call conservative, but believe whatever you want to... Well, the MRM is not an ideology, it's a movement. You see, we don't have a set of beliefs we all adhere to other than that men should have the same rights women have. We haven't formed any theories such as Patriarchy Theory. So there is no ideology for you to hate. I don…
/r/MensRights27/06/13 09:28 PM
1

Be my guest :)
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:44 PM
1

Exchange it for whichever political group you'd like. I chose nazi because it's a generally despised ideology.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:40 PM
1

Definitely not at its most hypocritical... Hypocritical, yes, but most? No.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:39 PM
1

Why are people so anti-nazi? I consider myself a nazi and believe Jews and non-Jews are both worthy of the same basic human rights. Not all nazis are extreme antisemite nutters, and when people generalise us all into that category, they're no better than those antisemites! My disdain for feminism has as much to do with feminist "theories" as it has to do with its proponents actions. I don't believe in Patriarchy Theory, I don't believe in the feminist revisionism taught throughout the school sys…
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:34 PM
3

You ableist scumbag! /s
/r/MensRights27/06/13 08:12 PM
6

What about the right to not be enslaved by your government in the worst possible manner? Are you saying that men have a right not to be discriminated against in the labour market whereas women don't? And are you also saying that men don't face any discrimination in the labour market? If that is what you are saying, my brain cannot comprehend your reasoning...
/r/MensRights25/06/13 08:26 PM
6

Female privileges have always existed, they've just been ignored by today's and yesterday's societies. No need for you to make the same mistake, you can break the sexist cycle.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 08:22 PM
1

Just thought I should point out that there has never been a time in history where men and women have had equal rights. This is because female privileges haven't been extended to men, whereas male privileges were extended to women. This is a result of gynocentrism, only looking at female experiences whilst ignoring male ones. The "pendulum" analogy is false, there is no pendulum. Women didn't have it worse than men on the 19th century or before that, they had it different. The pendulum argument i…
/r/MensRights25/06/13 08:18 PM
2

What was the thing for which she received a "hateful" PM and what was the "hateful" PM? I am going to guess she held an extremely sexist opinion, someone called her out on it and she chooses to frame it as hatred for being an opinionated woman in order to bask in her victim complex and receive attention and sympathy. This is usually how these things work...
/r/MensRights24/06/13 08:15 PM
5

And this "objectification" is a problem how? That's how humans, and most creatures, work. We want things to be useful to us. Am I "objectifying" a plumber when I only want said plumber to fix my plumbing? I see him only in the light of someone who's in that moment useful to me. I don't think of him as someone who might have a dog he quite likes, or whatever. Where is the harm in this "objectification" everyone is all up in arms about?
/r/MensRights24/06/13 01:07 AM
19

But, remember how feminists tell us that only female sexuality is controlled!
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:50 AM
3

I think you'll find that her views are considered "progressive" by most. They are naturally full of themselves and hypocrites, not to mention sexist bigots who hide behind a banner that they think is unassailable...
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:13 AM
5

Well, she's a feminist... What exactly did you expect? This is what they believe. The core tenet of their belief system is Patriarchy Theory, by which they mean that women are oppressed and men are privileged.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 12:07 AM
6

She continued to support and defend feminism, she was just upset that the laws and practices she had halped to set up to discriminate against men were affecting her son. She didn't want that, she wanted them to hurt other men, not her men...
/r/MensRights22/06/13 09:21 PM
2

It's not necessarily radical feminists doing this... Why are people so quick to exculpate "moderates"? All feminists are sexist bigots.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:16 AM
1

Also Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish law.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 12:00 AM
3

People allover the world mutilate their children (mostly their sons) without blinking an eye, children are not in any way immune to their parents' evils and ill-doings.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 11:25 PM
5

There are times when I feel like crying contemplating the current climate in politics, this is one of them. How can people be so blind to male suffering, I sometimes ask knowing I myself was as blind to the situation some three years ago.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 11:20 PM
10

I am sorry for your loss! I hope you and your family are at piece with your brother's choice and fate.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 11:14 PM
58

Rape culture! Teach women not to rape! Seriously though, rape laws need to be gender neutral, and men need reproductive rights.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 11:02 PM
2

Genital mutilation, conscription, gendered rape laws and approaches, gendered domestic violence laws and approaches, alimony, lack of reproductive rights. And the feminist lies about the past, as well as the present. But the ones about the past annoy me more, as people so readily believe them (I did too).
/r/MensRights19/06/13 09:34 PM
1

Are you comparing a chosen ideology to a sexual demographic? All feminists are sexist bigots, seeing as all feminism is sexist bigotry. That statement has nothing at all to do with women... Do you think feminist means woman and vice versa?
/r/MensRights17/06/13 07:59 PM
3

Where did I suggest men should be diametrically opposed to women? Feminists are guilty of being sexist bigots who do nothing but lie and promote female privileges, it's a hateful philosophy that needs to be brought down.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 09:35 PM
2

Tell me more about this ficticious bogeyman you call "the Patriarchy"! Fuck you and your bigotry.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 09:12 PM
2

Patriarchy, I tell you!
/r/MensRights16/06/13 06:25 PM
6

That doesn't really answer the question. But here's an additional: Why should our discourse be good-natured towards feminism?
/r/MensRights16/06/13 06:06 PM
1

That they constantly lie, mix that with their extreme bigotry and their immense power and you've got yourself a dangerous cocktail.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 07:29 PM
4

Whenever you hear someone make the claim that feminism has never killed anyone and is a force for good, think of Darrin White. Additional information on his death.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 10:44 PM
1

Do you, in all seriousness, believe that feminism is about equality? If so, what makes you think that? If not, do you believe it ever was? If so, what makes you think that?
/r/MensRights12/06/13 09:25 PM
3

But remember, only women are judged on how they look and present themselves in politics! Patriarchy!
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:54 PM
1

Not so much a troll as incredibly stupid.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:52 PM
1

So, how did the court's decision strike you? As fascist? Or perhaps as "woefully ignorant of the philosophy underpinning the Constitution"? Just in case you accidentally missed that part, I'll quote it here as well: “It may not be doubted that the very conception of a just government and its duty to the citizen includes the reciprocal obligation of the citizen to render military service in case of need, and the right to compel it. … To do more than state the proposition is absolutely unnecessary…
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:38 PM
2

Because women benefit from it, and it's only supposed to happen to men.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:43 PM
1

To most people, ethics and morality are just buzzwords that mean: Help women!
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:42 PM
1

So did you read the transcript, or did you have something better to do?
/r/MensRights11/06/13 07:22 PM
2

And then you use that as a justification for your warped worldview. If there's a distinction here, I don't see how it could possibly be relevant. I see, you believe that my stating objective facts without expressing an opinion is equivalent to expressing an opinion. The context you speak of seems to be your own projections of what you believe I think (even though I don't and have said so). Here's a transcript of the video. Now you want to claim you didn't hold that view. Alright, whatever. Not o…
/r/MensRights10/06/13 08:58 PM
2

I once again am very confused about your reply. You don't seem to actually reply to what I am writing. I think a better question is whether you actually read what I wrote. I compared women's situation in regards to national suffrage prior to WW1 to children's situation in regards to national suffrage prior to WW1. That is not saying adult women are children, it's saying their situations were very much alike. I am sorry that you couldn't understand that even though I explicitly explained it to yo…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 08:06 PM
2

I am fully aware everyone was racist, that was not my main point, it was hardly even a point, just something I thought I'd mention. My main point was that they were sexist bigots who were not the least bit interested in equality of any kind, just like today. I did not compare women to children, please don't be intellectually dishonest, I compared the circumstances women and children shared in this particular instance. Two groups that had no obligations towards the state, to whom the state in ret…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 07:22 PM
3

Not sure exactly what your comment has to do with mine... But I'll answer it anyway. Suffragists, and later suffragettes, asked that women be given the right to vote in national/federal elections (this is quite important, as women often could participate in local/regional elections and others). Actually, suffragists wanted everyone above a required age to be able to vote, whereas suffragettes mainly were a group of upper class white women who wanted this particular privilege for themselves. Of c…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 06:20 PM
8

This is not a right-vs-left issue. Feminism has latched its claws into every aspect and angle of the political paradigm. There are "liberal" feminists and "conservative" feminists. There are "socialist" feminists and "anarchist" feminists, etc... In my opinion, feminism has always been mainly conservative, not as in the politically right-leaning, but in the sense of wanting to conserve some fundamental social, cultural and legal practices and ideals: Namely gynocentrism and male disposability. T…
/r/MensRights08/06/13 10:07 PM
2

I'm okay with jokes about everything really...
/r/MensRights06/06/13 08:31 PM
1

I must ask.... How did they define DV? Because 1-in-3 and 1-in-5 are huge numbers...
/r/MensRights03/06/13 06:58 PM
3

Haha, another sexist bigot who thinks she can educate us on the system we grew up in and continuously live in... Feminism isn't about equality, it never was and it never will be, it's about female privileges. You need to convince pro-life people that a foetus is not a person, no-one is arguing women shouldn't have control over their bodies, they're quite simply saying that foetuses are people with a right to life. Men on the other hand have no right to bodily integrity, why aren't you up in arms…
/r/MensRights29/05/13 09:43 PM
5

Are you seriously defending the IRA and their sectarian murder campaigns?
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:10 PM
2

I disagree vehemently that suffragettes were for equality, but that doesn't mean I oppose female suffrage, in local or national elections. However, the vote and conscription go hand in hand. Men were required to serve in the military, in quite a few countries they never gained the right to vote in national elections if they didn't complete their service or if they had had it before they lost it. Suffragettes demanded no such requirement for women, indeed they marched for the internment and consc…
/r/MensRights27/05/13 07:07 PM
0

Oh, the privilege of being male in the third world! Feminist-leaning MRAs, when are you going to figure out that feminism is just another form of bigotry and it is all based on lies?
/r/MensRights25/05/13 09:53 PM
3

This speaks to the gynocentrism which, although always extant, has grown and increased in the past 50 years. They take issues that affect both sexes (either equally or equitably) and claim it's women's issues, whilst ignoring men's issues.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 11:15 PM
1

There are times when I seriously wonder if the entire world suffers from joint retardation. Reading what Grepin said is one of those times. How can people be so blind to this extreme bigotry? I think that misandry and gynocentrism are the two last bigotries we need to confront before we step into an egalitarian era. I also think we've saved the two greatest forms of bigotry for last and that they are by far the most difficult to get rid of because they are so deeply entrenched into our human psy…
/r/MensRights19/05/13 05:52 PM
24

As argued by feminists for the last 200 years. The early 19th century saw contraceptives promoted to the poorer classes for the first time. Writers on contraception tended to prefer other methods of birth control. Feminists of this time period wanted birth control to be exclusively in the hands of women, and disapproved of male-controlled methods such as the condom.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 05:36 PM
3

I wish feminists would stop lying, full stop! But that's not very likely...
/r/MensRights19/05/13 05:17 AM
0

What?
/r/MensRights13/05/13 09:19 PM
2

Mike Buchanan of Campaign for Merit in Business might be able to help. To me, it quite simply suffices that discriminating against men is sexist and therefore wrong, the results of such discrimination aren't of much importance to me.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 08:44 PM
2

So, I guess you're opposed to Safe Haven laws and other opportunities for women to legally abandon their unwanted children and relinquish their parental responsibilities? To me, it is about equality. If you think that giving men some measure of equality to women in this particular area is despicable and that the men who would use this new equality are selfish I can only imagine what you must think of current women... You must be a proper little misogynist.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:37 PM
1

The former Swedish Minister of Defence, Sten Tolgfors (himself a conscientious objector) described it the same way. When Sweden got rid of conscription in 2010, he stated that this signalled the end to the last piece of institutional discrimination against women. That's right, a law that enslaved all the nation's male subjects since 1901 (prior to this, we had various forms of selective conscription, but in 1901 general conscription was enacted) was a case of discrimination against women because…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:17 PM
10

Feminists do, but they also happen to believe in a little something called "Patriarchy", so... Also, "reverse sexism"! That is one of the many signs of the creator of this slide not knowing the first thing about the MRM.
/r/MensRights01/05/13 11:11 PM
1

I figured they did. But still, more than half of Indian boys are sexually abused?
/r/MensRights25/04/13 11:28 PM
1

Most of the things in the "violence against women" section should be also be in the "violence against men" section. Likewise, most of the things in the "violence against men" section should be in the "violence against women" section.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 11:26 PM
1

It makes you wonder how they defined sexual abuse.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 07:42 PM
1

Global obviously, you'd have to be blind not to see the oppression men face in e.g. the Middle East.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 12:09 AM
8

That's because Patriarchy isn't real, it's a made-up bogeyman onto which feminists can project all the world's ills, along with their own personal failures. Nowadays, when some men's issues are beginning to emerge in the mainstream consciousness, they like to blame all the issues they've caused or aggravated is also down to Patriarchy. So, in essence, feminism is part of Patriarchy according to feminists... It's all quite stupid and idiotic really, but they are after all feminists.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 07:19 PM
1

Women most often rape by using their vaginas, i.e. they shove the victim's penis up their vaginas. I am not sure what the punishment is for either. I believe it varies from case to case.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 07:57 PM
2

So nothing you didn't expect?
/r/MensRights21/04/13 08:32 PM
1

Have you received any type of response? I haven't when I've brought this up.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 08:30 PM
5

Mhm, well, that's great. I suggest we henceforth categorise rape by penetration as sexual assault and rape by envelopment as rape. Then we will use this definition to further lies about women being the only/vast majority of rapists. I hope they think this is fair as it is a non-issue.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 08:28 PM
6

I am glad British MRAs are starting to take notice of and bring up this clear case of female privilege and misandrous law.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 07:41 PM
5

Not to mention UK rape laws which exclude female perpetration. Equality, I tell ya!
/r/MensRights20/04/13 10:20 PM
170

So another threat of a false rape accusation in order to attempt a rape? Is this rape culture? Can we teach women not to rape?
/r/MensRights20/04/13 10:09 PM
70

Magnificent, isn't it? Laws are enacted to make sure men and boys are discriminated against and women and girls receive preferential treatment at all levels in society, when men understandably start lagging behind as a result, it is proof of them being inferior or how masculinity is at fault...
/r/MensRights20/04/13 02:15 PM
6

So feminists, please tell me about "women's oppression"... Being legally discriminated in some areas while legally advantaged in others (a condition true for both men and women in the past) doesn't come close to military conscription, or death slavery. That is true and actual oppression.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 07:47 PM
2

Fat acceptance? Really?
/r/MensRights17/04/13 06:53 PM
2

Why would idiocy and bigotry from a group of women and men make you dislike women? I dislike these women and men, but not as much as I hate the system that teaches them this...
/r/MensRights17/04/13 06:26 PM
2

I don't know whether to laugh or cry... The sheer stupidity!
/r/MensRights16/04/13 10:30 PM
1

Indeed, but one of them acknowledges some of our issues (a select group of them, which don't go against their own religious views), so while we're fucked either way I guess that counts to some extent. At least for the purpose of exposing feminism and bringing female privileges to the public eye.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 07:43 PM
3

Yes, who is the subject pronoun whereas whom is the object pronoun. However, who can be used as an object pronoun as well, while whom can never be used as a subject pronoun. So, if you are not sure what to use, always opt for who.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 07:38 PM
2

However, her argumentation prior to bringing up her own religion as an answer was excellent. Although, a bit short. But I guess that was down to the format of the debate.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 07:23 PM
6

I liked it, up until the point she began spreading Islam as the answer... She can have her faith, I don't care, just don't impose it on me. Two things I think she could and should have brought up was that rape is a sex-specific crime in the UK (and throughout history all across the world, and still to this day in the world at large), this is a classic example of female privileges. Women cannot be charged with the crime of rape. So when she mentions male rape victims, she should have brought this…
/r/MensRights15/04/13 07:47 PM
17

It's adapted by most Western governments, the state enforces it on its citizens. It is therefore commonly-accepted regardless of whether most peolpe know about it or not. We don't live in a "Patriarchy", we live in a "Patriarchy Theoriarchy".
/r/MensRights15/04/13 06:31 PM
0

She's upset because a boy she wanted to have sex with didn't want to have sex with her? Ok... All across the world, women are privileged when it comes to rape laws, if women who are raped are treated poorly (some places they are), it is still nothing compared to men who are raped. Male body images, nee I say more? The apex fallacy, etc... This is the ramblings of a gynocentric little brat who knows nothing about true discrimination and oppression but has been fed the same lies over and over.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 08:55 PM
9

Quite a few, you see, male-perpetrated rape of women is so loathed by society that the mere claim can get you out of any trouble or any perks you wish. Most people know this (apart from feminists who probably know this but have decided to disregard it in favour of their female-victim-view) and a lot of people are selfish and will not stop at anything to get their way. But remember, women do not lie about rape, and implying some do is misogyny!
/r/MensRights14/04/13 08:28 PM
1

Janet Street-Porter is a horrendous prick. And annoying, oh so annoying.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:28 PM
3

Hang on a minute, he got an order of protection against her and she could still live in the flat? But when she got an order of protection against him, he could not? Is this the law or just the application of the law? And the Safe Homes act (or something) of Illinois seems to be a sexist act, if what Judge Pirro says is true that it allows women who claim to have been victims of DV to get out of leases.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 07:25 PM
1

Either way I agree that it's worrying that the article doesn't bring up the grading bias, and neither does their likabehandlingsplan, and none of the material they use for this seems to mention it either. I wonder how their students' grades would look if they worked with this. It's a feminist school, so why should they bring up the fact that boys are the victims of institutional discrimination to explain why they are lagging behind when they instead can go with the feminist-approved line of reas…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 02:06 PM
1

He should have said that it's a problem with a small minority of people attending conventions, not men. I mean hadn't he been a gynocentric idiot, but since he clearly is... Taking pictures wasn't the harassing part, it was the part where the woman's male friend carried him to a corner and he and the woman with the camera pinned him to the wall. The taking pictures part was just the introduction to the story. I meant at the end of the video, when he told people to confront "guys" who took pictur…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 02:03 PM
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Yes, but the supposed antipluggkultur is a feminist claim about boys and masculinity everywhere in Sweden. Björklund tows the line and Lärarförbundet does as well. It is utter rubbish and sexist victim-blaming.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 01:59 PM
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This forced envelopment by a woman seems incredibly unlikely to me (I have never heard of this happening, and my mother is a Crown Attorney, my uncle a SV Cop), but it happens frequently in cases of males asserting dominance (ie in prison). It's not exactly like the justice system takes it seriously. Most people are under the impression women cannot rape and quite a few don't think men can be raped. As a prime example take the CDC. And I'm a little confused, primarily by your assertion that "mal…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 12:53 AM
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Have you ever seen surveys of what supposedly civilised Muslims in Western countries actually believe? No. I don't think I've ever heard of such a survey. For fuck's sake they're making genital mutilation common in countries where it has only ever been an oddity. I am hoping that there will be some public outrage about this some time soon. And that as a result, we can achieve equal protection for boys against genital mutilation. I am not very hopeful though.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 12:37 AM
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"Antipluggkultur" (Anti-school/Anti-studying culture) is something feminists claim boys partake in across Sweden, not just in Gnesta. It is bullshit, victim-blaming deflection. Oh, boys are being discriminated against in grading and the school system caters to girls? No, it's boys who don't want to study! It's their own fault.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 12:31 AM
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Legally? None.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 12:24 AM
1

Feminism never was about equality, this "new" feminism is pretty much the same as the "old" feminism.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 12:15 AM
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How did they come to the conclusion that he was given a date rape drug? By talking it over? That's quite some assumption. At the end, after he's talked about what happened to him (being harassed by women) he makes a u-turn and says it's a problem with some men. Jesus christ, what an idiot. Given this example of complete lack of intelligence and the fact that his sole evidence for being slipped a roofie is that he talked it over with a friend, I sincerely doubt he was roofied. Oh, and taking pict…
/r/MensRights13/04/13 12:11 AM
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To most, to study hard (if you have to, far from everyone does), to some (far and few between) to skip homework to go play football. Here's a thought experiment: Which would be considered more feminine: Studying hard and passing an exam OR skipping homework to go shopping with your friends? Same answer. There were those who didn't give a toss on both sides of the sex divide, in my experience about equal in numbers and not very many. You'd of course hear the girls who never did their homework, ba…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 11:59 PM
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I work with Muslims, I live amidst them, both devout who follow the sunna and less devout who have assimilated more or less to Swedish culture. They are on average quite friendly and not that different from myself. I am prefectly fine with SD being in the parliament, and I despise the media for not letting them speak (among other things), I hate the way leftists (and to some extent the right as well) shut down any discussion with SD and instead call them racists and don't let them speak. But tha…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 11:32 PM
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Certainly, but that doesn't mean people get to foist their superior culture on others. Live and let live.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:06 PM
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Ah yes, the old feminist trope to blame the society they call "Patriarchy". But, the "antipluggkultur" (anti-school culture) is bullshit. I'm Swedish, I'm a man, I went to school not long ago. I know perfectly well that boys as a group don't have such a culture, at least not more than girls do. I never studied much, yet I got good grades, why? I kept quiet and never disputed the teachers or stood up to them. They don't mention any knowledge differences, yet boys get lower grades. Behaviour and p…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 10:05 PM
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This is a feminist school, of course they don't. You should note that they blame boys lagging behind, you guessed it, boys! It is not the school failing boys, it's boys failing school! Wherever boys or men achieve higher than girls or women, it is "Patriarchy" and systemic oppression, a male-dominated culture and overt and covert discrimination against the girls or women. But, when school is set-up to favour girls over boys and most teachers are women who grade boys lower than girls for the same…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:43 PM
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I reckon there isn't. But, I don't think that is a reason to target specific groups. I'm a Swede and adhere to Swedish culture, my neighbours are Chilean/Argentine, Arab and Angolan, they adhere to their respective cultures mostly. I don't see where the problem lies, or why that isn't acceptable. That's all. If Swedes had to suddenly leave Sweden en masse, I'd prefer to settle down in an area where other Swedes lived, so that I could preserve my culture and language, I don't find this strange or…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:49 PM
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No, just non-European immigrants. They think that cultures so vastly different as Scandinavian and Muslim cannot integrate and so wish to preserve Scandinavian culture. They also think Muslim men oppress women and that Muslim cultures encourage criminal activity or have a higher propensity to be delincuent. So, they're really no different from outspoken feminists, they just target immigrant men instead of Swedish and/or all men.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:25 PM
1

For some? No longer?
/r/MensRights12/04/13 02:12 PM
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A more apt translation would be: "Cast the right vote in the next election to do something about it." Implying I should vote for Sverigedemokraterna (SD) who are basically to immigrants what feminists are to men. Thanks for the advice, but no thanks.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 02:08 PM
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SD are critical of feminism in Sweden, but they are still deeply gynocentric in their approach. It is not a men's rights party and they are somewhat xenphobic. They don't appear to be as racist as the media portrays them to be but still racism seems to be rife in the party. All Swedish political parties are bigotted one way or another.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 02:07 PM
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Jag tänker inte rösta på något etablerat parti nästa val, alla är hemska. Inte S, inte SD, inte M...
/r/MensRights12/04/13 02:04 PM
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I should add that One of the main points of contention from MRA about feminists is they ONLY focus on the issues that affect females is not the reason why I despise feminism. If it were the case that women were the only ones who suffered discrimination under the law, I'd be fine with them doing this. But, there never was a time when this was true. So, what they did was create a polemic paradigm in which men are "privileged" and women "subordinated" and call it Patriarchy. It is utter rubbish. Me…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 10:58 PM
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So when my five-year old nephew was choked unconscious for being a "svenne" (a somewhat derogatory term for an ethnical Swede in Sweden) in an immigrant neighbourhood, I guess that wasn't racism? When the police said they suspected it was "reverse racism" I thought I'd pass out from anger. When our former minister of defence (himself a conscientious objector) stated that ending military conscription (of men) in Sweden meant the end to institutional discrimination against women, it wasn't sexism?…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 09:12 PM
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So according to themselves, feminism is female-favouring prejudice combined with female-exclusive power. Actually, that seems correct, maybe they are on to something with this definiton...
/r/MensRights11/04/13 09:06 PM
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I disagree vehemently with your assertion that women suffer worse discrimination than men in the middle east and other places... Conscription, the Mahr, genital mutilation, forced provision of wives and female relatives (considering that most of the work availabe in such areas are of the manual labour variant, often arduous and dangerous which will shorten your lifespan), no legal protection against rape are all very serious and life-altering examples of legal discrimination muslim men face in t…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 08:36 PM
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Click the link.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:28 PM
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I believe it is a she, but you're just regurgitating what she said. All of those "uneducated places" have gender issues affecting both men and women, just because we only ever hear about women's ones, doesn't mean there isn't severe discrimination against the men living there. In a similar fashion to what we hear about the west from the media, where they omit any men's issue and only talk about women's issues (even if they have to lie to have something to talk about). I know exactly what she mea…
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:16 PM
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World-wide, women are statistically more likely to be aborted, abused, raped I am sorry what? Are you pro-life? If not, I don't see how abortion is an inequality issue. Men suffer higher rates of violent victimisation, so men are more likely to be abused. Rape, we don't know, because most countries and international organisations don't recognise male victims as victims, nor do they acknowledge female-perpetrated rape as a possibility. When you start from a point of female privilege such as rape …
/r/MensRights10/04/13 08:07 PM
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How about men's rights issues in 3rd world countries? She doesn't care about them? Or how about sexual harassment in the workplace? She only cares when it happens, oh so exceedingly rarely, to women? She seems like a bigot to me. You also seem deluded and probably a compulsive liar, like that "because she deserved it" bit. I am glad you don't identify as an MRA, because you're not one.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 09:38 PM
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Nobody deserves to be victimized, no matter what their actions. Valerie Chernova didn't say that. Nor did my_pets_are_rednecks, that is you projecting. To say that he contributed to what the perpetrators did is victim blaming because it puts the burden on him to not be raped, rather than the perpetrators to not do the raping. This is an idiotic comment. There are always going to be bad people who will rape, assault, rob and murder, you have a a responsability to yourself to keep yourself safe. I…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 09:24 PM
1

Yes, and it was a poor decision to agree to their offer. Him leaving a club, therefore it is reasonable to assume he was somewhat drunk (less capable to defend himself), alone in a closed setting with four strangers at night. To say that this was a bad idea to say the least is not victim-blaming in any way. He has a responsability, to himself, to keep himself safe by whatever measures he can, just like everyone else. For instance, would you walk through an unlit alleyway alone at night? Most peo…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 09:03 PM
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Looking through a few of those, most are your average misandrous statements and are quite disgusting but par for the course, however I don't see how Valerie Chernova's comment is victim-blaming. It is a very valid question, what was he doing getting in a car alone, at night with four strangers? Asking that question doesn't mean you're "victim-blaming".
/r/MensRights08/04/13 11:32 PM
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Fairly sure that these people are "real feminists". Supporting female privileges and female supremacy is the very basis of feminism.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:53 PM
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Certainly, although I disagree on the lewd commenting part, I was merely wondering if he was raped (that is, if the Canadian legal system acknowledges female-perpetrated rape as rape) and if so, why the article wouldn't say as much.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 05:36 PM
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I wonder what sexually assaulted entails here...
/r/MensRights07/04/13 05:26 PM
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According to the police, she told the man's family that she would withdraw the case only after she is allowed to marry him legally. At what age can men marry without their parents' consent in India? I think I've read 21 for men and 18 for women somewhere, but I'm not sure.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 05:23 PM
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Haha, good one!
/r/MensRights07/04/13 12:52 PM
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I am going to keep it short: Yes! Moreover, I think that to be a decent human being you need to be opposed to feminist principles and beliefs.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:40 PM
4

If male suicide is violence against women, does that mean Patrick Stewart wants to end male suicide..? Is it any wonder 1-in-3 women suffer violence in their lives when being widowed through suicide is a prime example of such violence?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 01:59 AM
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Perhaps I shouldn't.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:50 PM
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I don't understand the problem the question allegedly sets forth. She can always give the child up for adoption or leave it at a safe haven if she doesn't want it, even though it's too late for an abortion. So, no, the father should not have any legal obligations towards a child he did not consent to have. If she chooses to keep the child, that is her choice. If he chooses to partake in its life, that is his choice. Legal Paternal Surrender is not the male equivalent of abortion, it's the male e…
/r/MensRights30/03/13 10:18 PM
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Brilliant!
/r/MensRights30/03/13 09:50 PM
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What are goals of this movement? Broadly and specifically (in terms of legislation, etc etc)? How would you like people to perceive the movement? Number 1 priority for me is equal rights and protection under the law, accompanied by equal obligations, duties, responsibilities and punishment under the law. Once that is achieved, perhaps we can focus on equal treatment on a societal level, however I don't think this is possible as men and women are quite different from one another. How have you hea…
/r/MensRights30/03/13 01:22 PM
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'Let's blame a fictional bogeyman, "the Patriarchy" onto which we can project all perceived evils, imagined or real, and then claim we are "working on" the issues by doing so.' But, hey, at least they are acknowledging some of the issues exist, I suppose that's a step forward.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 12:57 PM
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