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it was in most of the comments and the post certainly did nothing to prevent the implication, so fuck them and you too, troll
/r/MensRights07/12/21 09:33 PM
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Its not so much you seeing them, it's you doing "evil" things like not letting people cut their genitals up or preventing the "mommy knows best!" indoctrination
/r/MensRights03/12/21 11:46 PM
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no, they outed themselves as a troll pretty quick, no actual intention to change their mind despite "loving debate" and coming here to "learn"
/r/MensRights03/12/21 11:32 PM
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I agree, down with RoeVWade!
/r/MensRights03/12/21 11:21 PM
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now you're just lying about history. no i'm not Thousands of years of men being in almost every position of power/authority is really female dominance But you clearly are, because that's a feminist's fantasy of what history was like Alright clown, since you haven't graduated high school here's a tl;dr on how statistics work: The people in power being male means fuck all about men in general having any sort of power. And i'm not going to go get the studies that show men don't preference other men…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 11:10 PM
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You thought about coming in here and invalidating everyone you invited to share their experiences and then using that for your own personal gain/attention to another group later? Ngl, i thought the same about you. Still do.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 10:55 PM
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Oh i know this one! It's having the handle u/pressurecan!
/r/MensRights03/12/21 09:56 PM
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Well, we're trying to be objective, i won't claim to be perfect. But the trying is the real difference. MRA's care more about truth than feelings
/r/MensRights03/12/21 09:00 PM
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You are not considered weak, you are weak. Physically anyway (on average). The question is how long are men expected to put up with your insecurity around it, and bend over backwards so you don't ever feel put down upon. Side note: You also might want to look into the studies that women perceive actual equality as oppression, because feminism has insisted women have no privilege and men have it all, so any instance of equality in favor of men is considered more oppression. If you'd like a more c…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 08:01 PM
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So, back to your feminist bullshit: I'm not angry, you keep insisting i am. Using swear words and down voting are not indicators or my emotional state. You thinking they are is projection. You believe that because i disagree with you, i must be angry, because you would only do those things if you were angry. Yes, i'm angry in general, and at feminism in particular, but it does not extend to you, random internet feminist crashing an MRM sub. I’m not the person you have mental fights with in the s…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:52 PM
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It's not the sole barrier, we have many others. Feminism is just the plurality among them right now We have religions to deal with, too, to get genital mutation of boys banned like it has been for girls for 50 years Edit: Oh, you sweet summer child. Do you think people have not tried being calm and collected with feminists? Look up Casey Jay, a self avowed feminist who did exactly what you did with this thread (reaching out to MRM to see if they had any real points) and her entire documentary re…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:15 PM
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Well, you asked me to correct you, so fine. You're wrong. Look, you've done again what you've done with every post you've made: Twist it back into whats good for you. You have failed to hear the one constant in this whole thread, and sub, and MRM in general: Feminism stands in the way of men addressing mens problems. And your solution is to come in here and calmly explain (womansplaining much?) how actually the thing we all see as preventing redress of our grievances, was in fact the solution al…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:07 PM
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Did you not read the example i gave? You're tone deaf, and walked into a support group with the preheld assumption that they're wrong about needing support or even being victimized in the first place.
/r/MensRights03/12/21 07:00 PM
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So, just in case you don't realize what you're doing, you've twisted what every commenter has said into "I (and feminism) am actually right, and you poor men just don't realize it" So, not only entirely dismissive of their lived experiences of not only the sexism and sexual violence but then again when they try to tell you that feminism is what keeps standing in the way when they try to address these problems And you still don't get why people get pissed at you? What you're doing is about as bad…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 06:56 PM
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The patriarchy doesn't exist. And they always had this power. Women have been protected from the consequences of their own actions from before humans could even speak. Even today, with you, right now, you can't even comprehend a woman even having enough "power" to cause harm without a man giving it to them. Reality is really good with that bitch slap, tho, and women have this "power" because they have the wombs and often use it to hold children hostage for personal gain. Like do you even underst…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 06:44 PM
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Then you were mistaken. Let’s use genital mutilation as an example. If women protected their sons like men do their daughter, you think that shit would happen?
/r/MensRights03/12/21 05:31 PM
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The patriarchy doesn’t exist. It’s the feminist version of original sin or the devil: something to pin everything bad at that can’t ever be proven false (because it doesn’t exist) Edit: even look at your own arguments. Saying men are stronger (physically they are) and so holding them more accountable. And here we are trying to hold women accountable (face the consequences of their actions, instead of expecting someone else to) and it’s constantly called out as sexism and misogyny. Feminism is a …
/r/MensRights03/12/21 05:28 PM
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They are mad because of the leaps in logic you make to fit the conversation into a feminist approved lens We deal with the biases and fallacies you’re displaying on a daily basis. People here get tired and frustrated easily by them now. Notice how you pulled “any philosopher” out of your ass without specifying one we could actually look at and critique? Shit like that WE are not considering women weak, we are only looking at how their actions harm men and how to get it to stop
/r/MensRights03/12/21 04:57 PM
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Oh, also how criticisms of women are only acknowledged if they are somehow not the woman's fault, but put on her by a man in someway. There's another thing, holding women accountable instead of blaming a non-existent "patriarchy" for all of their harmful behavior
/r/MensRights03/12/21 04:28 PM
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It presupposed men have a bunch of rights that men clearly do not have, which they would know if they'd considered the perspective of men at least once in their lives. Instead of the perspective of the rich they falsely believe all men are
/r/MensRights03/12/21 04:25 PM
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Females have always had a privileged status in society due to their sex. It is only in recent years decades that society has allowed the average man to gain enough individual power that women got envious and wanted that, too. So now we have a society where a woman is not rebuked or shamed or often even arrested or convicted for being violent towards a man, but men have (and always have) had these consequences for any sort of aggression towards a woman, and then they are expected to be able inter…
/r/MensRights03/12/21 04:16 PM
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and the less common it is for them to have quick access to a gas mask, the more impactful a gas attack becomes. Time to mask on isn't about the gas attacks, it's about making sure gas attacks can never cause over a specific amount of harm, keeping them uncommon
/r/MensRights02/12/21 06:55 PM
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So i agree with you, but not on the beard part. The gas mask requirement isn't so much "You will be dealing with gas, get your face ready" but more along the lines of "If for some reason we do have to deal with gas, you have 30 seconds to shave your face" which is very impractical. So, i'd still support beard ban so long as it interferes with a gas mask, but there are styles that work just fine with those like a goatee. Otherwise, 100% agree it's just to dehumanize them to try and make sure they…
/r/MensRights02/12/21 04:48 PM
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yeah, no shit Which is why i specified of reproductive ability, not the word on its own. Read dude.
/r/MensRights01/12/21 04:08 PM
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I think it’s a bit more sinister than that. Society has a weird thing about violence towards a man’s genitals being funny. It taps into the fucked up “destroy the patriarchy” dynamic. The more a man is sexually destroyed, the more he is just a sexless drone for society. Vasectomies are sterilizations, castrations of a man’s reproductive ability. Society and women in particular fucking love that idea, and so hop on to “don’t worry, it’s reversable ” without a fucking care in the world if it’s tru…
/r/MensRights01/12/21 02:59 PM
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And funny how the "punishment" for being a man is always having to "sacrifice" so that any women in the vicinity doesn't need to do any work, or feel any bad feelings, or just give her your money shitlord, or just die, or whatever else benefits women that they abuse into men.
/r/MensRights19/11/21 05:16 PM
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apparently not
/r/MensRights18/11/21 11:56 PM
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I agree, and thank you for how you phrased it. It's a distinction i don't think is made often enough. Though if what you believe in has been manipulated, it is also important to recognize that
/r/MensRights18/11/21 08:59 PM
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Is that the male privilege package? Mine must have gotten lost in the post :'(
/r/MensRights18/11/21 08:48 PM
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Or in literally any other circumstance where a man might be in need, like just opening up about your feelings, women will rush to help /s
/r/MensRights18/11/21 05:22 PM
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He didn't need to know, he already was one. The idea that "A real man" fights until he dies despite reason and rationality is cultural brainwashing to make men more useful to the people giving the orders. Stop perpetuating it.
/r/MensRights18/11/21 05:12 PM
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not dealing with hardships everyone else has because people just give you things, solving your shit for you, and possibly being wanted too much? Shit man, women have it hard /s
/r/MensRights18/11/21 05:10 PM
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Just asking, is this a gender only problem or could it be both genders do a fucking terrible job at protecting male newborns from circumcision Why is it a "NO THIS IS A MEN AND MAN PROBLEM STOP BLAMING WOMEN" when it suits you, but "could it be both genders do a fucking terrible job" as soon as you have no real argument to shift blame away from the mothers who are far more present and involved the the decision and process on average. Youre denying women can learn but say men can. I said nothing …
/r/MensRights15/11/21 10:43 PM
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Or because they choose not to, like how they chose in the states to protect girls from infant genital mutilation but not boys, or how they protect girls from violence but not boys, or how they protect girls from sexual assault but not boys. How about, before you talk a bit more out of that thing that looks strangely like your asshole, you look up Duluth Model feminism that gets added to legislation here in the states: blatant sexism enshrined in law, and hint: it's not oppressing women Women are…
/r/MensRights15/11/21 10:09 PM
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Or raised better than they are now, with an apprentice system under men, instead of how Motherhood has currently rated: most of the men in the USA leaving the care of their mothers with parts of their genitals amputated. But sure, i forgot the narrative! "Wumyn gud! mun bahd!", sorry for getting off track there /s
/r/MensRights15/11/21 09:59 PM
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What, cuz i found your bullshit in another mra post?
/r/MensRights15/11/21 09:57 PM
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and why the hell would we assume you speak (in any way accurately) for the intentions of all men past present and future? Seems a tad presumptuous
/r/MensRights15/11/21 09:43 PM
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They already invented the guillotine, you think we could come up with something more efficient?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/11/21 04:40 PM
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Oh back to "I'm rubber you're glue" huh? Every comment you've made has been 100% projection. You're the one denying reality by pretending the one you want to exist is the one that exists, you're the one refusing to address your own issues (or even those of feminism as you try to drag people to a sub that supports feminism's bullshit) And since you're reading comprehension needs work, FUCK OFF isn't a slur, FUCK OFF YOU LIBTARD PIECE OF SHIT contains one, tho. And since we're back to projection, …
/r/MensRights15/11/21 04:38 PM
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The women are busy assaulting people weaker than them, aka children, instead of jumping up and down to qualify for your personal biased definition of violence that doesn’t exist because you personally don’t see it Fuck off
/r/MensRights15/11/21 03:26 PM
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Oh there it is! The feminist shilling comes out!
/r/MensRights15/11/21 03:24 PM
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The last simp who holds a literal gun to every other man's head to finance the simping
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/11/21 08:35 PM
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You're mostly right, but we also hear feminists brag about how they can make embryo's splicing together two lesbians genes to create a baby a male wasn't involved in creating. And men can do that too, and artificial wombs are about a decade away. So how's this for a thought experiment: Each gender is able to reproduce successfully without the other, and they both go their separate ways. How does Womanland look in 10 years versus Manland? There's been lots of joke media around it, which props up …
/r/MensRights12/11/21 04:00 PM
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It depends how you define oppression. A pet kept in a home (happy, healthy, cared for, fed, safe, and warm) is seen as oppression but the same animal on the street (hungry, alone, cold, unsafe, no healthcare) is seen as not oppression. Basically how feminism treats gender. They see women being cared for as slavery, and the men who are not cared for and have to take care of themselves (while also being expected to care for a woman) to be the slavers. It's like a bunch of fat cats pushing signs fo…
/r/MensRights11/11/21 05:46 PM
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and the answer will undoubtedly be men (somehow)
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/11/21 11:00 PM
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And men exist within POC and LGBT communities, that doesn't mean those communities support mens issues, make space for those men, or bend over backwards to make sure those men feel comfortable and unthreatened but you are suggesting us doing that is somehow a good thing, instead of a distraction from the actual issues MRM most needs to address. And then you dismiss people who point out the rational behind this (something all the other rights groups understand) and say we need to act different so…
/r/MensRights10/11/21 03:57 PM
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hatred of men I think the word you're looking for is "abuse" or "exploitation". I doubt the people enforcing it care enough beyond the benefits they get to feel any emotion at all in relation to those they exploit, and hatred takes a lot of work.
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:29 PM
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Yup. It's gaslighting manipulation 101
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:18 PM
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Almost. For a feminist the patriarchy = men having authority over woman in any circumstance in any way Its about power and control, not equality
/r/MensRights08/11/21 10:17 PM
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Aww, you sweet summer child… you think the Child Support check gets handed to the kid? Or that there is any sort of validation it isn’t spent on margaritas that same night?
/r/MensRights07/11/21 03:24 PM
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Sorry getting heated with the troll in the other part of the thread My point was that increased risk of exploitation is a valid reason why we seek to protect minors And it is not reasonable to do anything to do that, including holding innocent people responsible for the lies of children but it does not absolve the adult of any wrongdoing - if I commit a crime because I was tricked into it I still committed a crime. No, it does absolve him, and if you are tricked into it does not mean you committ…
/r/MensRights04/11/21 11:05 PM
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confession of lying about age from the minor may be forced. And a false confession accusation of rape can be coerced from a child by people, and that happens frequently. What's your point? These cases automatically assuming fault on the man are a big fucking problem, and them legally being able to prosecute for statutory rape when the girl admittedly lied about her age is a problem with the justice system, not some dude's "perceptions" Edit: And no, the fairest approach would be the person who i…
/r/MensRights04/11/21 10:50 PM
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You were the only one needing advice here, thanks Everyone has the power of discernment Yes, but by your metric i get to punish you if you didn't discern through my intentional deception
/r/MensRights04/11/21 10:46 PM
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you admitted yourself it is possible, and it's not like i went and looked up pictures. From the article even the cab driver said she and her friend looked of age. And the solution is simple, we don't punish people for it when it wasn't their fault. It being a crime in a special category is a problem, because it protects no one and leads to shit like this. The only reason the laws were made as strict as they are is in case the minor says she was raped, then she would have an easier time proving i…
/r/MensRights04/11/21 10:34 PM
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I'll give you it's not common, and can be difficult to do. But is doable for people who should not be considered adults, enough so to not be victim blaming someone who was lied to about it
/r/MensRights04/11/21 10:25 PM
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except it's not, because men do not show the same degree of in-group bias towards other men (we should tho)
/r/MensRights04/11/21 10:12 PM
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Says the person who has clearly never heard of makeup or any of the other multi-billion dollar industries centered around changing how people appear and making them look different ages Edit: Also, if we're going just by attitude and apparent knowledge, i still don't know if i'm talking to a 10 year old or an adult
/r/MensRights04/11/21 10:00 PM
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Awe, you're blind and have stupid thoughts? life must be rough
/r/MensRights04/11/21 09:44 PM
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you must not have read your own, it's right up there ^
/r/MensRights04/11/21 09:33 PM
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well yeah, especially with the trends of teenagers wanting to look older, and older women wanting to look younger, the lines are super fucking blurry
/r/MensRights04/11/21 09:29 PM
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Is that a challenge accepted i hear? I'm gonna bet anyone between the ages of 10-17 could pretend to be anything from 20-30 and you wouldn't know shit, if they were determined enough
/r/MensRights04/11/21 09:26 PM
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Their monetary value to women Lets not forget that a rich single man is still a failure is many people's eyes
/r/MensRights04/11/21 03:05 PM
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The cognitive error in the case we are talking about is believing a girl you met at an 18+ club is 18+, which is not necessarily true. People have a tendency to interpret this new person as being 18+, confirming their believe that only 18+ people are in the club. It is confirmation bias at work, just not a negative example of it. It should be true, which is why men in those situations should not be held responsible for it not being so. They didn't do anything wrong, the person violating the sign…
/r/MensRights03/11/21 01:03 AM
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which is why we don't do the herculean effort on their behalf. If they don't want to be associated with the crazy ones, they can do the work of separating them out
/r/MensRights02/11/21 08:17 PM
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When the "genuinely intelligent" people are visibly calling the crazy people out as not the same group of people, then i'll do the same. UNTIL THAT POINT they are all the same.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:57 PM
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When you are making decisions based on assumptions, then yes, it is. And the logical error is when you encounter something that doesn't match your previous assumption that you then don't see, misunderstand, misinterpret, etc. to fit the assumption you had. Kind of like missing that a shade of lipstick is one 15 year olds commonly wear in an environment where only 18 and over are supposed to be. Your brain doesn't register what might jump out as odd because of the preheld assumption
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:51 PM
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I would, this is what confirmation bias is. Everyone in the club has a shared assumption that everyone else is 18+, and bases their interactions on that assumption. That is confirmation bias. It's not wrong, it's a mental shortcut that makes hitting on people easier because you dont have to check if they're a valid target, they went to a place that assumes as much.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:25 PM
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They seem utterly incapable of acknowledging the possibility that it might be a woman problem and not a just-this-one-guy-keeps-doing-things-to-cause-the-problem problem. That's the sexism they are spouting, consciously or not.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:19 PM
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Yeah, when taking Blame there's a reason besides misandry that you have to do the work, and taking responsibility the only reason is misandry that you have to do the work, and not the person whose to blame.
/r/MensRights02/11/21 04:17 PM
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This is a known mensrights troll account. They only post to invalidate, gaslight, or harass posts on /r/mensrights
/r/MensRights01/11/21 10:14 PM
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flats, 60's haircut, and a dirty apron
/r/MensRights01/11/21 10:13 PM
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flats, apron, 60's haircut
/r/MensRights01/11/21 10:12 PM
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And also from the knowledge that they won't be punished for it. Socially or otherwise.
/r/MensRights28/10/21 10:01 PM
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Disagree, this is just standard, run of the mill feminism. Nothing exceptional or out of the ordinary, like "toxic feminism" might suggest, while also implying there is a non-toxic form. Is there "Toxic KKK" or just KKK?
/r/MensRights21/10/21 03:31 PM
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sounds like just regular feminism
/r/MensRights21/10/21 03:27 PM
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And when women do it, they’re “protecting themselves from the oppression of society” When men do it, they’re “hiding behind a woman to boost sales” …logic would tell anyone that those two actions are literally identical in both activity and motivation
/r/MensRights18/10/21 08:17 PM
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I never said it was just women, but we were talking about specifically women. Claiming people in the USA have the highest obesity rate does not on its own imply that the women isn’t he USA are equally represented in that statistic
/r/MensRights18/10/21 07:56 PM
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…USA women have the highest obesity rate isn’t he world
/r/MensRights18/10/21 07:48 PM
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In their own heads the logic makes perfect sense. If the kid exists at all, she’s chained down for 18 years, so the sperm donor damn well better be whether he wants to or not. The idea of themselves consenting to parenthood doesn’t even enter their mind, that and they don’t consider subjugating a man for nearly 2 decades to be suffering for him… because they’re often incapable of seeing his suffering at all. And the state sets it up in such a way so the person is as divorced as possible from the…
/r/MensRights18/10/21 07:46 PM
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Not quite, somehow the women here still have inflated self-worth
/r/MensRights18/10/21 05:09 PM
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They do not take on all the risk, we as a society provide massive safety nets to companies, like not allowing the failure of a company to apply to the owner and only the LLC. Don’t exaggerate the risks owners take, it’s far less than an employee that can be fired at any time and has nothing to take with him out of the company. An owner of a failing business can still sell off assets or do a number of things, all within the owner’s control. The employee has none of these options, and in the USA a…
/r/MensRights15/10/21 05:02 PM
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My point is they were just like you and me until the power came along, and the difference is the people who don’t make it to the top are the ones who are responsible with the power, instead of greedy.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 04:42 PM
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I’m a software developer, as are many people who use this site. What Zuck did was nothing impressive, just the one that had the right conditions to sprout into what it was. Same with amazon, there were many online stores that shipped at the time, and any of them could have had the idea to become what amazon is. Amazon did it first, and due to the nature of our monopoly favoring economy, no one else is able to become another amazon. Facebook has similar issues, and their lack of accountability or…
/r/MensRights15/10/21 04:33 PM
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If it wasn’t him it would have been someone else. An online book shop is hardly a novel idea, he was just in the right circumstances to turn it into bigger walmart. He got lucky, thats not a good enough reason to be a billionaire
/r/MensRights15/10/21 03:55 PM
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Yeah but then feminists wouldn’t be allowed to speak at all, claim discrimination, and the sub goes down
/r/MensRights15/10/21 03:34 PM
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Correction: He sits his ass at the top of a service thousands of others created and maintain, while reaping the vast majority of the rewards.
/r/MensRights15/10/21 03:30 PM
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Feminism in a nutshell
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:27 PM
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Yeah… Don’t look up stats for postpartom depression in women, gets them off child murder charges all the time.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:26 PM
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And its usually a man at fault in that case, too (in their mind)
/r/MensRights14/10/21 10:24 PM
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But seriously, why are you here? You’ve answered this in a blatantly false way, ignore/deny/deflect anything anyone says with little more than “that’s not actually feminism, it’s what i believe in my heart it is!” And then call a very clearly and with much detail and many sources post explaining it a “rant” (dismissing without addressing, again) So, why are you so surprised when people call you names here? Like feminazi bitch or whatever? You’re clearly trolling, have no intention of learning an…
/r/MensRights14/10/21 04:03 PM
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Doesn’t mean your job is done, now go tell women to stop abusing men
/r/MensRights14/10/21 03:43 PM
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Also funny how willing feminists are to strip rights away from men just to get those things, as well as the feeling of safety.
/r/MensRights14/10/21 03:41 PM
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Sounds like threatening his life to change it didn't work out
/r/MensRights13/10/21 10:34 PM
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RIGHT!? I was banned by there for something stupid i can barely remember. Just defending men i think. Was blown away by the permaban over it Edit: I use /r/raisedbynarcissists instead. Causes cptsd, and they're better than the cptsd sub
/r/MensRights13/10/21 08:30 PM
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So many women seem to have zero issues with cheating Well, worse, they invent issues for the man to justify it. So not only are you cheated on, but then you're blamed for the cheating and not being good enough
/r/MensRights13/10/21 05:31 PM
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bullshit And, no, i don't care to elaborate. If your self defense training is that simplistic there's no helping you. And you'll probably die, as any situation where your life is actually at risk means enough adrenaline is in play that your "only chance" means jack shit.
/r/MensRights13/10/21 02:40 PM
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Saying How can you hold women criminals responsible for their own sentencing? In response to him saying this: It's a statement about society, not women. Society, under feminist influence, does not hold women accountable for their choices Therefore, dipshit level commenting, or just a really bad troll
/r/MensRights12/10/21 09:09 PM
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How about sexual assault? When men do it, the state and society respond with a comparable response to a murder. When women do it, men get told to "man up", "take it like a man", "you lucked out", etc. ANOTHER clear example of when a man does something, there's a shit ton of consequences for the man, and when a woman does something... there's no consequences for the woman. And a lifetime of this behavior creates shit women.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 09:05 PM
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Hey dipshit, try actually reading what they wrote the last couple comments. Fuck off, troll
/r/MensRights12/10/21 09:03 PM
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umm, no where i've seen or heard. Pretty sure you pulled this out of your ass But even if that did happen, i guarantee they were condemned or not taken seriously, not like a child who gets the advice from their parent.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 08:55 PM
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Are there people advocating it is ok to sexually assault people?
/r/MensRights12/10/21 08:41 PM
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Piece of Shit
/r/MensRights12/10/21 08:39 PM
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don't get to choose their own fucking punishment. Fortunately for society... neither do you, the referenced mother, or the referenced girl. Stop pretending you have any right to, the reason she and her mom aren't punished for this is due to societal sexism against men, there are better ways to teach self defense in literally every situation, advocating for groin strikes specifically is just being a sexist shit
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:58 PM
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Yup, she could have had the same result with "Jab their eyes" and then been just as dangerous, with less sexism! (but then women could potentially be hurt by it... can't have that)
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:56 PM
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No, it's sexism. There doesn't exist a situation where your life isn't at risk where a groin attack isn't a worse option than something else, to pretend it's the end all be all of self defense just shows how deep your sexist bias goes... and how shallow your knowledge of self defense is.
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:53 PM
4

Even in such a way that might permanently damage their genitals and potential for motherhood?
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:52 PM
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Wow, hi bitch! Kicking in the balls is objectively as harmful to men as rape is to women, so what you just said is equivalent to raping a woman who pinched my butt. Seems a little excessive, yeah? Like, sure, it would "teach her a lesson", but at some point who's being the real predator here?
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:50 PM
5

That doesn't mean you get to sexually assault people back
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:49 PM
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bullying boys for fun What an interesting way to describe sexual assault objectively as harmful as rape
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:47 PM
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She's a woman after all. And so should be held to the same standards of decency and "having your back"-ness of a relationship as every other person in a relationship. Being a woman isn't an excuse to be a PoS, as much as they(and you) may think it is Edit: Why do you expect women to have your back firstly in danger situations? Because if i'm saving her life from a tiger/bear/whatever she damn well better be right behind me taking care of the things i can't pay attention to while I deal with the …
/r/MensRights12/10/21 04:24 PM
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Yeah, but it’s nonsense Men had to form tight knit hunting parties where their own lives were trusted to the people you brought with you. Super easy to slit someone’s throat and go “oh, stabbed by the deer” In fact, you could consider all of human history as an exercise in men collaborating for the good of all. That you don’t see it now is due to men being brainwashed, damaged, and pit against each other because men cooperating is the only real threat to established power
/r/MensRights09/10/21 02:51 PM
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I mean i see the logic, thats the other half of the "chivalry" women keep expecting men to adhere to. It points out how outdated the concept is, and how everyone needs to catch up to that idea with regards to men.
/r/MensRights07/10/21 02:26 PM
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and a situation ripe for abuse
/r/MensRights05/10/21 09:44 PM
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We educate them, sure. Do we "Teach little boys not to fly planes into buildings"? or do we assume that is obvious, and are just teaching history? Education is prevention Yes, and when you are educating in a sexist way about a problem that affects both genders, it's no longer prevention and now pushing a sexist unhelpful agenda We educate children on and against the atrocities of ww1 and ww2 even though they themselves were never an active part. Seriously? We aren't educating them with the idea …
/r/MensRights05/10/21 09:42 PM
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donating to cancer research and not mentioning aids research at all When cancer research is giving sexist presentations in schools and no one else is allowed to, yeah, i'd take issue with that too Go home, troll.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 05:15 PM
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There is still a concerning amount of violence against women not just in this country but globally, the majority of perpetrators are men. You mean like this quote from the article that shows she is categorically discounting male victims of women? Survivors UK says in teaching these teenage boys, its intention is to educate young men on becoming better 'partners and fathers' in the long-term. Yup, that's what we need. Women telling men what it means to be a man. As if they had a single fucking cl…
/r/MensRights05/10/21 05:02 PM
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By lecturing little boys who haven't raped as if it was a given they were going to? Fuck you. Women sexually abuse in equivalent numbers, if you don't doctor stats to leave them out, and far more in child abuse, being in the majority of caregiver roles. This is about blaming all men for the actions of criminals, holding children responsible for the actions of criminals, and is especially rich, as for sure these boys don't understand the concept of consent, as no one in their lives has ever consi…
/r/MensRights05/10/21 04:50 PM
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Seems to do a decent job if you have a vagina Edit: Also, people who depend on you "giving a shit" is hardly "giving a shit" it's more "giving a shit why my ATM/Lawnmower started talking about its feelings, and how to fix it."
/r/MensRights05/10/21 04:21 PM
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true
/r/MensRights05/10/21 04:01 PM
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Disagree, that risk is artificially manufactured, and much more serious than it needs to be, with no safety net. That's not exciting, that's people not giving a shit what happens to you.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 03:52 PM
5

Well, almost. If a gene breaks on the X, the cell will use the gene from the other X. This is why men have higher incidence of X linked genetic diseases (and why male pattern baldness is inherited from your mother)
/r/MensRights05/10/21 03:30 PM
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fistbump
/r/MensRights05/10/21 03:25 PM
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Yeah, XX is like a snowman with two bottom halves, who wants that? and only the equivalent of one of those X's is even used (they can pull from both, but averages to 1) Men have XY, which means we use all of X, and then overlay the awesomeness of Y. So, to counter that sexist's logic, men are just better versions of women.
/r/MensRights05/10/21 03:21 PM
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so, feminism in a nutshell?
/r/MensRights05/10/21 12:04 AM
5

also giving unsolicited advice you mean, unsolicited advice like saying I tell all my friends to never date a man who splits the bill. Men who split the bill aren't worth it. They don't put in effort and they're not romantic. which was the start of the conversation? fuck off Edit: Sorry, not just unsolicited advice, also sexist generalizations I tell all my friends to never date a woman who doesn't put out on the first date. Women who don't put out aren't worth it. They don't put in effort and t…
/r/MensRights05/10/21 12:02 AM
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Guys who insist on splitting everything 50/50 are going to end up being shitty boyfriends, shitty husbands and shitty fathers. dunno why this is hard for you, but explain like you're 5: What she said was not a preference, it was a value judgement of men in general and the man she was speaking to specifically. 100%, undeniably an insult and one that manages to be broadly sexist as well Your blindness to this fact says more about you than your arguments do
/r/MensRights05/10/21 12:00 AM
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You would have to include hate against men in their hate speech definition first, which they've explicitly admitted is not
/r/MensRights04/10/21 11:58 PM
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You’re getting downvoted because “most rape and sexual assault that occurs men get away with” is a completely fucked up and bullshit claim with 0 evidence. Like seriously, that isn’t even probable unless you are like those feminist who count every single accusation that didn’t result in a conviction as a rapist walking free. Which is exactly where “most rapists walk free” comes from
/r/MensRights03/10/21 04:18 AM
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Dunno what you’re talking about. All I see are posts helping her out and a million mod deleted messages
/r/MensRights02/10/21 05:19 PM
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Might even venture that’s the only kind she’s had
/r/MensRights02/10/21 05:00 PM
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They are raised starved of physical affection and brainwashed by their mothers and society that the crowing achievement of their life is to be a woman’s ATM. What else would you expect out of that environment
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:57 PM
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I just want a girl who weighs less than me (while I hold 1000 helium balloons)! Why is soooo offensive to women?
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:55 PM
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Yeah the BS is intentional. They enjoy cutting down a man that doesn’t meet their standards as much as bragging about being hit on by men that do. They don’t see it as wrong, either, even when destroying a man’s life over it. Increasing the risk increases the amount of “bravery” a man needs to put him self out there. “Putting yourself out there” is basically walking in front of a firing line and hoping all of them choose not to shoot, and that maybe one of them wants to go to dinner. And women l…
/r/MensRights02/10/21 04:53 PM
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You shouldn't even be able to participate in government if you haven't been subject to the draft
/r/MensRights01/10/21 08:37 PM
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At the rate we're going we might not have a "next generation" at all
/r/MensRights29/09/21 09:24 PM
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It's part of societal brainwashing. Making sure we stay underappreciated means they can keep piling on things for us to do, while ignoring any sort of compensation/gratitude/anything that costs them at all.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 09:23 PM
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You'd think it's be easy to respect someone's boundaries if you're using the words "I love you", but in my experience the opposite is true. Some people use that phrase as a free pass to walk all over someone else's boundaries and self worth
/r/MensRights29/09/21 07:40 PM
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And then anything you've done once is now expected all the time, while she finds new things for you to start doing
/r/MensRights29/09/21 07:38 PM
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I’m sorry you feel you have to ask this, it saddens me to read this. Where the fuck have you bee... I’m a woman Oh, gotcha. Jokes aside, it's really messed up that a comment of this quality requires an outsider to point it out. Thank you for this.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 07:26 PM
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No. Seriously, no. If men ever get to the point of "enough" and still have life in them, it means society (mainly women) can still profit off their labor, and a higher "enough" needs to be found. The trope of the nagging wife doesn't come out of nowhere, men relaxing for any reason is enough to get people on your back about it.
/r/MensRights29/09/21 07:20 PM
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Oh like he gives a shit about that, lol Would love a that link to bookmark tho
/r/MensRights28/09/21 10:11 PM
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Not frequently, but yes. Especially in No Tolerance schools, the administrators get bitten by their own lazy policies. If you can prove the violence was reciprocal, their hands are tied.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 10:06 PM
4

You mean, like you don't for most of the stats you post about?
/r/MensRights28/09/21 10:02 PM
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Do you now see how stupid your argument is? He literally doesn't, I've been talking to him a while. Sexist trolls gonna sexistly troll
/r/MensRights28/09/21 09:57 PM
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Please, they do that now
/r/MensRights28/09/21 09:56 PM
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It is sexist, because not a single person here ever claimed your stats weren't accurate, they (and me) are saying (repeatedly) that you throwing it in people's face as a "men are the problem" is sexist, and you won't stop, any discussion on anything related to why you continue like a broken record with your (uncited) stats and ignore anything else anyone says, unless it's a condemnation of you personally and then its: "Men are the problem, and so are you" Seriously, do you have anything else to …
/r/MensRights28/09/21 09:52 PM
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However, the reality is that men commit 88% percent of violent crime in the US. A number that is certainly even higher in more male-dominated societies. aaaand way to bring it back to "Men are the problem!" See, we know you're sexist because you added the second paragraph, instead of stopping at the first one, in case you're still confused.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 09:44 PM
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Well, yeah, anyone who's known a women or Chihuahua knows small size is positively correlated to aggression But, again, you limit your sources on aggression or violence to men only
/r/MensRights28/09/21 09:35 PM
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I mislabeled and mistreated you Dude, i don't think you did
/r/MensRights28/09/21 09:10 PM
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warning my dude, this guy has no deeper thoughts than "Men are the violent gender", and will die on that hill
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:58 PM
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I mean, they both have a lot to answer for. And single mother households provably produce more violent adults Edit: Actually, wait, YOU DID IT AGAIN! You: "lets admit men are violent so we can talk about why" Him: "talking about why" You: "NO NO NO. ADMIT THEY ARE MORE VIOLENT THAN WOMEN"
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:58 PM
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Gender also seems to play a role in ASPD, as males are 3 to 5 times more likely to be diagnosed with ASPD than females Seems to, in a paper written by women, in a field dominated by women, men get diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder at a much higher rate than girls. OMG i'm shocked, my worldview is changed, so glad psychology doesn't have a fucking terrible replication crisis and massive proven gender bias (like the APA advocating therapy for men focus on "toxic masculinity")
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:41 PM
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By ignoring the fact that they do, you'll never get closer to understanding those reasons. You mean, ignoring them like you are now, to push that it's men, not violent sociopathic people, but MALE violent sociopathic people that society needs protection against, and that you damn sure need to make sure people know?
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:32 PM
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Ok, so you defended black people with "a range of socioeconomic factors", instead of saying at the top level "Black people commit most of the homicides" And then when it's men instead of black people, you do the opposite of that
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:25 PM
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But you're not untangling why it is, you're blaming men. When do you move to the untangling part? I'm very curious
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:22 PM
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Yes, good thing we have a documented official case of systemic discrimination to sue the government over.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:21 PM
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Yet all you seem to want to do is focus on the "man" part of criminal stats, and not the "mens issues" part.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:09 PM
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Admit that men commit the overwhelming majority of it You've yet to respond to anyone's point that women have a lot of loopholes to these stats, and the hill you seem to want to die on is that "ADMIT MEN COMMIT THE VIOLENCE". You're not in here talking about why "men commit the violence", you only seem to care that people acknowledge that they do, and you ignore all the people telling you why saying that is a shit thing to do.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:07 PM
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Haha, because you can tell my emotions through text, huh? Fucker i'm quick to names because bigots deserve name calling, and we live in a very name calling heavy world. Taking the high road doesn't benefit you here, and you can question my handle on my emotions when you've come up with a valid logical counter argument to the holes people are blowing in your comments.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:04 PM
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Well, one of the issues is that when people do sexist things, other people show up and say "yeah, but men are committing more violence, so this is justified" just like in america they had the whole "Yeah, but blacks are committing more violence, so this is justified" leading to a whole bunch of racial profiling, stop and frisk laws, and other shit that took decades to undo and most of it is still an issue. Reducing the complexity of the problem to their gender is the problem here, not the fact t…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 08:02 PM
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yes, and who is more likely to be poor and not have government support for that? (75% of homeless are men) but, to you, that's a man problem, not a poor problem and you still don't get why people are upset with you
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:56 PM
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it can also give insights into any structural issues that led to it And where, in anything relating to or around the posted article, are people talking about the issues men face that lead them to this? Are they instead just accusing men of and treating men like criminals, like the whole "teach men not to rape" nonsense? Are the people who are causing problems likely to even listen to this? No, you went to a different population of men, stated that a criminal's gender is intrinsically related to …
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:51 PM
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I'm defecting blame from men, which it shouldn't be directed at, and putting it back where it belongs: on criminals. Yes i'm quick to the names, because people who come in with comments like yours are often here just to shit on the men here.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:44 PM
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They also include if they were wearing a red shirt, or high heels. Should we profile everyone wearing red shirts, too? (and also the FBI is an incredibly sexist organization, who doctor the definition of rape to exclude most female perpetrators. So you're whole "who's doing most of the violence" is leaving more than a few things out.)
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:42 PM
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Yuuuuuuuuuuuup. They decided to be sexist and blame all men for the actions of criminals, and if these recommendations were followed the only thing that would happen is victim stats for men dropping and victim stats for women rising. It is literally like they don't think, at all.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:34 PM
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You're a troll because you came into a mens rights thread and said something incredibly sexist against men. If i went into a sub for black people and said "Yeah, but which race is committing most of the homocides?" I'd rightly be shouted out, banned, and called a troll for being a racist PoS. Just like you, now, but with sexism instead of racism. So, congrats on that?
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:28 PM
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If the gender of the victims matters (as OP claims it does) then why doesn't the gender of the perpetrator? OP's point had nothing to do with the gender of the victim, it was about police giving sexist recommendations, and then you cast all men as complicit in the violence criminals produce, like a sexist bigot, and implied they deserve different treatment because they share a biological trait with those criminals. Criminals are by and large individuals with troubled lives, and that happens to a…
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:27 PM
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Again, troll, criminals commit the homicides, and everybody is equally entitled to police and societal protection from criminals. Not whomever you think the criminals look like the most, you sexist shit. Edit: Moving this higher so people know what a sexist troll looks like "just admit you want to blame men for society's problems" Bingo. Now you're getting it. Men are definitely to blame for the bulk of society's problems. That doesn't mean men are exclusively to blame nor does it mean that the …
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:19 PM
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Yeah, and then I'd take it public for sexist standards of student safety.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:18 PM
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Why the fuck does that matter? But fine: Criminals. Criminals commit the majority of violence, and everybody should be equally protected from them.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 07:16 PM
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Well, keep dreaming?
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:39 PM
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It's cannon fodder for popular wars, too...
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:38 PM
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I think women will be drafted into every non-dangerous support role that exists, and all the men who would have survived in them get pushed to the front lines. Like others have said, purely performative
/r/MensRights28/09/21 06:38 PM
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I would have hit her back. (not being facetious, had a bunch of sisters, learned the hard way the need to defend yourself in the face of sexists) And then "Fuck you, #equality bitch" to the girl who said you couldn't hit her back. And then "And fuck both of you for thinking starting this was OK, and we're both going down to the deans office right now to sort this shit out, or i better not hear about it again." Equal rights. Equal lefts.
/r/MensRights28/09/21 04:04 PM
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Very true, and yet still manage to hog all the attention for being victims of violence
/r/MensRights27/09/21 09:02 PM
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Yeah, women are far more adept at getting men to commit violence on their behalf, and then have those men take the fall for it.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 07:45 PM
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More like by the time they might get to that point, their issues get attention and are addressed by others. When a man is at that point, he gets even more discrimination and abuse until he actually does it. Violence gap in a nutshell.
/r/MensRights27/09/21 07:43 PM
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First time a society read a dystopian novel and thought "hey... that's a great idea!"
/r/MensRights27/09/21 02:42 PM
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Ooof. First time? Don’t read 1984, then.
/r/MensRights26/09/21 02:42 PM
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/r/woosh Look, there's nothing wrong about keeping yourself safe. There is something wrong about determining when you should up your guard based on who the person is, and not what the situation is. Being alone at night with a stranger coming up on you is a situation anyone should be on their guard for. Man, woman, goose, what have you. I don't know who is coming up on me, and if they have a weapon it doesn't matter two shits how strong i am versus how weak/strong they may be. Guns and knives kil…
/r/MensRights25/09/21 08:10 PM
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Institutions rely on the subjective judgements of their individual parts to do their job. They do not have to say why they make a decision, they just have to make a decision. Someone who profiles in private will not find much difficulty in profiling in their public work as well, and hiding it with other excuses. Police do this all the time, as a matter of policy. They even have a word for when they need to create alternate evidence for something they did or discovered illegally: Parallel Constru…
/r/MensRights25/09/21 07:13 PM
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You having a clever phrase to say instead of "That is a false equivalence" does not remove from you the burden of proving the false equivalence. Saying they aren't the same doesn't invalidate his comparison or argument, you have to demonstrate what about the comparison is logically wrong. Instead, you threw out a pithy one liner to feel smug about yourself. So, great job Einstein! /r/woosh
/r/MensRights25/09/21 07:08 PM
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Institutions and states are made up of individuals. If they are profiling at an individual level, then they are profiling as an institutional and state level. That woman profiling the threatening black man on the street likely has family, maybe a police officer brother, who is now just as likely to make the same profiling decision if he believes her doing it is justified. Same holds true for all levels of society. You can't get away with individual bigotry and not have state/institutional bigotr…
/r/MensRights25/09/21 07:04 PM
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Well, I have Apple A, Apple B, Orange C, and Potato D here, and as it turns out, Apple's A and B are almost the same, and both are fruits just like C. And A is closer to C than C, B, or A is to D. Wow, i just compared them. Fucking magic.
/r/MensRights25/09/21 07:00 PM
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profiling can save lives. And take them, like racist profiling has been doing for decades? Look, i'm not suggesting your wife not keep herself safe, but to pretend profiling doesn't cause active harm to the group being profiled is just being stupid.
/r/MensRights25/09/21 06:57 PM
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It means they think you're a tool. Something they can manipulate to their advantage later, likely because you are soft and gentle yet still provide the resources so she wouldn't have to work. Basically the same as saying "You aren't sexually attractive, but a pussy enough to take advantage of if i can't get married in 20 years, or as a favor to one of my friends"
/r/MensRights25/09/21 06:53 PM
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Clutching your brass knuckles and running away from a potential threat is defensive. Going online and defending that decision based solely on the sex of the person is being a sexist bigot, and very aggressive. Pretty self explanatory.
/r/MensRights25/09/21 06:51 PM
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Societal level gaslighting. Women complain about how oppressed by men they are... to men who are missing 30% of their penis surface largely due to women's preferences.
/r/MensRights23/09/21 09:09 PM
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The entire point of holding women accountable is so they don't do it to boys in their care. IDGAF about me, i'll deal with my own business, but to pretend that this isn't an extreme form of psychological manipulation applied towards children who cannot defend themselves physically, emotionally, or psychologically is also child abuse. And to then expect those abused kids to take on the responsibility for fixing their abuse, like how much more "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" can you get? You…
/r/MensRights23/09/21 08:58 PM
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Whose responsibility is it to ignore childish shaming attempts The literal child to his primary caregiver? fuck off with your "men, take responsibility!" BS, women need to stop the shaming and manipulation. And NO it's not just 'shaming', it's also writing it into law and the basis for everything from duluth model feminism, anti-male rape laws that define rape as being penetrated instead of forced sex, constant depictions of violence against men and sexual violence against men in the meida, and …
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:56 PM
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Yes its irrational. The attention was freely given, and it can be freely taken away. Being entitled to the attention and special treatment by others is absolutely irrational. It's their own fault they get drunk on the attention, not men's for noticing them
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:45 PM
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There in nothing beneficial about he procedure for the man it's being done to. It's a removal of pleasurable nerves and protective covering in all cases, the excuses people bring up to justify it are usually about benefits to other people. It's super gross. Hygiene: So mommy doesn't have to worry about it AIDS: Studies are doctored, but even if true it's explicitly saying public health > men's body autonomy So it looks the same as daddy: So daddy doesn't feel bad about what was done to him Makes…
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:42 PM
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Yes but only some people are socially expected not to be
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:33 PM
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Snakes, snails, and puppy dog tails vs Sugar, spice, and everything nice ...i'm a little surprised at how well that fits in this case
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:30 PM
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foreskin restoration As someone who's looked into it, it's not the fix you may think it is. The lack of a frenulum makes it so you can only cover up so much, and the only feeling benefit is the head being a bit more sensitive. The severed nerves don't grow back.
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:29 PM
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How dare you assign value to her intimacy, and the audacity to compare it to something so drab as the things you do for her? /s I can see this angle being blown off easily
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:04 PM
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So, men being raised to hate their own sexuality, having everyone since birth shame them for any expression of it... thats mens fault, to you?
/r/MensRights23/09/21 07:01 PM
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Weren't we all defrauded, tho?
/r/MensRights23/09/21 03:41 PM
2

Like Amber Heard speaking at a domestic violence conference?
/r/MensRights23/09/21 03:08 PM
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Which you’d usually do at home, if there wasn’t someone always there who would think it reason enough to upend your life if they saw you do it.
/r/MensRights21/09/21 03:13 AM
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You're not a man, because i said so :P Be a man sometime, its nice (by my arbitrary definition of behaviors that are are good for me if you do them)
/r/MensRights20/09/21 08:10 PM
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Speak for yourself, i find it quite easy to fault them for being shitty people. It's men's nature to want to fuck every pretty thing that walks by... BUT SOMEHOW WE SOLDIER ON WITHOUT DOING THAT, BECAUSE WE THINK ABOUT THINGS OTHER THAN OURSELVES SOMETIMES
/r/MensRights20/09/21 08:02 PM
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Corollary of "Behind every great man..."
/r/MensRights20/09/21 08:01 PM
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yeah this person just reaffirmed that a man's emotions are only for other people, not himself. Just from a different, equally selfish, perspective
/r/MensRights20/09/21 07:59 PM
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Always has been. Seriously, its hilarious how people will mock men for what they do to get pussy, then blame the things that get pussy on those men again.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 07:58 PM
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It doesn't sound primitive to me. It sounds like incredibly clever and insidious social programming indoctrinated into our children by the people we trust to care for our children, so that they become adults easy to take advantage of.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:53 PM
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Which was likely encouraged either right then or previously by their caretaker (statistically likely to be a woman). This shit is learned, not innate.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:49 PM
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Accept IT. Live with IT. Or don't put up with this shit, and cut people who do it out of your life, keep them away from your children, and call them out each and every time for their bullshit. If there's one thing we know it's that social sanction is the quickest way to change the average woman's behavior.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:48 PM
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Disagree, men know when men cry that he's a person with feelings, and he needs those feeling validated by his social group. Thats what crying is. Women get very defensive when men seek validation from a social group, that would mean less for them!
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:46 PM
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IMO his experiences are about average...
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:45 PM
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Even if people try to frame it as men enforcing these toxic gender norms. Societal level gaslighting
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:44 PM
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I mean, wouldn't you be upset too if your wallet suddenly started crying on your shoulder? /s
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:43 PM
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Yeah mine thought it was the most hilarious thing that i felt violated by being genitally mutilated as an infant. To them, the only feelings men are allowed to have are the ones that are good for them.
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:41 PM
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Same experience here. The only thing i've gotten from men is "Ok, but don't let this shit get in the way of what we need to do right now", which i've found helpful. Not letting the darkness in my life affect my work has allowed me to not have things get worse and spiral out of control. But to me the messaging is very different. When men comment on it they are doing it from a place of trying to be helpful, not saying you shouldn't feel at all. When women comment on it, it's to judge your worth as…
/r/MensRights20/09/21 06:40 PM
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Yeah it's open misandry and painting men as violent abusers by default. Horrible shit.
/r/MensRights17/09/21 08:50 PM
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It’s absolutely comparable, you just did it. I mean, you did it entirely dishonestly and with ignorance, but still did, and came to the conclusion “women have it worse” Despite there being many grades to both male and female genital mutilation, despite removal of the clitoris not being the majority case, despite some male mutilations involving splitting down the center of the shaft to “fork” the head….. No, you HAD to take the worst example for girls, pretend that was 100% of cases, and then com…
/r/MensRights17/09/21 08:06 PM
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can respect the biological truth to why they're this way. um, no, we can't, don't have to, and it's not a biological truth. Women are just as capable of not being absolutely shitty sexist people as men are, they just don't face any consequences for it.
/r/MensRights17/09/21 05:16 PM
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Check out Duluth Model feminism. Gets applied to police jurisdictions here in the states.
/r/MensRights17/09/21 05:15 PM
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no person should be able to shame you into doing something you don't believe is right "should be able to" and "do at every opportunity" are not the same thing, get out of here with your victim blaming bullshit. Yes he needs to develop his self esteem, because it is being torn apart by the very people who should be building it up. This is an emotionally abusive relationship with very poor parenting (from what information we have). very single problem you have listed is due to your poor self estee…
/r/MensRights17/09/21 05:09 PM
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So there is nothing about a married guy that will make him a better mentor for you than a single one. In fact, they will have less time for you in general, as well as have an ego investment into thinking the institution of marriage is beneficial to men and encourage you to put yourself in dangerous and vulnerable situations. Cast a bit of a wider net than that.
/r/MensRights17/09/21 04:57 PM
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When men get frustrated they get violent either physically, emotionally or psychologically. Everyone when they get frustrated has a chance to do this, people just assume it's more likely with men, and that is an unfounded assumption.
/r/MensRights16/09/21 05:03 PM
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When women complain, she and others expect someone else to solve the problem, or help. When men complain, they expect the man to solve the problem, so why is he speaking up at all?
/r/MensRights16/09/21 04:58 PM
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then who would she plan chores for? HERSELF? DoEs ShE lOoK lIkE a MaN tO yOu???????
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/21 09:23 PM
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Not get torn from their families and thrown in a cage on the barest whim of a women? ...honestly sounds like control of the situation is out of their hands.
/r/MensRights15/09/21 04:46 PM
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He talks a lot of sense, but his focus is not aligned with mens rights. He's more a pragmatic dating coach, one of the best i've seen. He is not supportive of mens rights, changing society's toxic expectations of men, or men behaving in any way but his own rigid Mantm image.
/r/MensRights15/09/21 04:41 PM
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Yes, and? If a dude realized he wants to be a father, quit his job, and stay at home spending all his time with his kid while someone else took care of everything else, you think that is reason enough that he should? I don't see why women should be let off the hook any more than it takes to recover from birth
/r/MensRights09/09/21 07:52 PM
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❤️
/r/MensRights09/09/21 05:07 PM
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That was more wholesome than i was expecting from today.
/r/MensRights09/09/21 05:02 PM
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I mean, they're speaking (their) truth. To them, a man is something that has a specific utility use, and is to be discarded afterward. She's legit saying men have served their purpose and need to be thrown away, cleaned up, hidden from view, their stink scrubbed off the floor, etc.
/r/MensRights09/09/21 05:02 PM
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Love how you preface with "credible", ensuring yourself zero accountability in even reading anything i link to, keeping your echo bubble safe and unthreatened. That said, there's 3 out of many i have bookmarked, in the off chance you could even consider yourself wrong. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4530408/#__ffn_sectitle https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/131/4/796?__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=pmd_1z0ETwO2rzv_cm0bYPt7UHytbVmmshlH.txFhqc7IH0-1631067272-0-gqNtZGzNAtCjcnBszQa9 …
/r/MensRights08/09/21 02:17 AM
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fuck me if there aren’t more then a few men out there that wish their parents had given them the chop. Looks like someone's getting laid the truth is, there are damn good reasons for circumcision In terms of preventative circumcision, literally false, so fuck you twice. Infant genital mutilation is literally as fucked up as tying tubes on baby girls as a "preventative" measure, just a stupid abuse of a child because you can. in your own little echo chamber of feelings I mean, i'm out here in the…
/r/MensRights07/09/21 10:43 PM
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Pleasure is not required at all Well fuck you, too, sir. Lets just go all puritanical evangelist and cut off every single body part that causes pleasure but doesn't fit that other definition of "functional" news flash: To most people, those pleasure nerves ARE ABSOLUTELY PART OF THE FUNCTION ASSHOLE Also, you're comparing getting your son circumcised to deal with a current medical issue to the serious issue of just blanket cutting up the dicks of >60% of all newborns. There IS a world outside of…
/r/MensRights07/09/21 10:29 PM
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Circumcision is a safe, mostly harm free surgery that decreases the risks of disease, infection and urinary tract issues in men, as well as decrease the chance of spread of disease from men to women, as well decreases the chances of cervical cancer in women. Oh, a male genital mutilation shill! Well lets take these in order: mostly safe So is amputating someone's ear, but that would be an absurd thing to do. Also >100 baby boys die each year in the USA from the procedure, and then the ones where…
/r/MensRights07/09/21 10:05 PM
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Feminism is a plight of men
/r/MensRights07/09/21 09:33 PM
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Preach brother
/r/MensRights07/09/21 09:32 PM
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benefits … to the procedure Male genital mutilation is the biggest men’s rights issue. We literally having people make cosmetic permanent changes to our genitals and then hand wave away any and all concerns with “oh there’s potential benefits” when it would less damaging to remove their appendix at birth Religious issues only confuse the point that men are being tortured as a gender, as babies, and then socially conditioned to not give a shit. You literally cannot be a MRA and be pro infant circ…
/r/MensRights07/09/21 09:31 PM
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Among minimum-wage earners, the ones who work hard learn the most efficient ways YOU ASSUME, because you won't give any ground on "HARD WORK IS GOOD" so there's not really a point in talking to you anymore, this is like talking to a wall.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/21 08:11 PM
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it's an indispensable component to lasting success. Tell that to every monarch who inherited a throne... ever. but you are kidding yourself if you think a regular lucky, manipulative mofo will outcompete a hardworking lucky, manipulative mofo Except that happens basically every day. Every single minimum wage earner is working harder than people making 100k, i guarantee it. Because the incentive to learn enough to do the 100k job has a lot to do with how much less effort it will take you to do th…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/21 07:46 PM
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If you think Bezos, Gates, or Musk actually worked hard for what they have you are kidding yourself. Gates just IP gated software someone else made. Musk's big thing was "Banks... but THE INTERNET" and had someone else do all the work, and Bezos... i don't believe he's done what most would call hard work since he was a teenager. It's not just about disproportionate results, it's that hard work is such a lightly weighted variable in the algorithm of success as to be almost worthless when compared…
/r/TheRedPill07/09/21 07:30 PM
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OMG you're taking the words right out of my mouth!
/r/MensRights07/09/21 07:25 PM
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LOL Go down the richest person in the world list and tell me which ones got there through hard work. Bezos sure didn't, neither did Musk, or Gates. And for women you have to go down nearly half the list to find one who didn't make her money divorcing her husband or from daddy. If that counts as hard work to you, we will never see eye to eye.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/21 07:15 PM
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Just like nothing was preventing girls from getting one before we implemented all this "Schools are failing our girls!" nonsense
/r/MensRights07/09/21 06:58 PM
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Very importantly, despite all the hysteria about STEM majors, most women are just not interested in them. I believe this is something they learn early on. No one argues with the studies that teachers generally grade their own gender ~10% higher than the other gender by default, compounded by all the feminist hand holding girls get. What this means is that in subjective fields like English (even more dominated by women) the teacher's grading bias has a large effect on a student's grade. Then the …
/r/MensRights07/09/21 06:55 PM
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Would love a source for this to bookmark.
/r/MensRights07/09/21 06:45 PM
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Hard work absolutely does matter False. Results matter. All your hard work does jack shit for your dignity if there's no results from it. Which means men have to be smart with where they put their effort. The wealthiest people did not get where they are by working hard, it was convincing dumb schlubs to work hard on their behalf.
/r/TheRedPill07/09/21 06:33 PM
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yeah i'm only starting in the comments, but i haven't seen anything about fraud and conning yet. And I'm all for them having a sex strike :D Sure hope all those men don't realize they've been putting in way to much energy trying to get pussy, and discover something meaningful in their lives
/r/MensRights02/09/21 09:46 PM
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"Give society everything it has been beating you up for, once society gets what it wants the beatings will stop" Said to a guy, and a bunch of guys, talking about how the beatings never stop because the beast is never satisfied
/r/MensRights31/08/21 10:00 PM
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Worthy avenue's like the rat race society keeps open as the only avenue to respect or human decency? And that all the other issues described here are created to push men into? Those "worthy" avenues?
/r/MensRights31/08/21 08:42 PM
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So, I get the fear that this vaccine is being used to push unprecedented since WW2 levels of government coercion. I get it. But we also have a genetically engineered Chinese possibly bio weapon to deal with. People not getting enough vaccinations both emboldens those who would force other medical decisions on us, and makes us more susceptible to the virus. It is not a good move. I’ve been holding out for actual fda approval, but once that’s actually been done getting vaccinated seems like the cl…
/r/MensRights26/08/21 02:09 PM
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More feminine doesn't make you a woman. It makes you a feminine man. Yes, it does make them a "man" still. They are a man so long as they have the genetics of a male. That's a man pretending to be a woman, generally because of a mental condition. Now, there's nothing wrong with a man presenting as a woman. You do you boo. Expecting everyone else to pretend reality is different than it is, to make you feel better about it, that is a problem. why's it so hard to just call them a woman? Because the…
/r/MensRights25/08/21 11:25 PM
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The part where people pretend "man" and "woman" doesn't represent 99% of the population then push others to change how they refer to each other so that someone with a trans- prefix doesn't feel left out. Edit: How else are you to differentiate a trans woman and a """real""" woman? Are trans women not women? You answered your own question. There's women, and there's trans-women. When we want to talk about trans people we can use the term "trans"
/r/MensRights25/08/21 11:04 PM
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Oh yeah, he's all about the publicity and not the functionality.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 08:37 PM
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Yes, but there are plenty of non-combat roles in the military a drafted woman could safely fill. Thus reducing the number of men needed to get drafted in the first place (though the same number would still die on the battlefield)
/r/MensRights25/08/21 07:58 PM
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Because a legitimate medical issue became popularized on social media as an "I'm special" badge, and now you have a bunch of people using the condition and label to clamor for attention. So anything you say that reduces how "special" and "unique" it is to be a bi-trans-giraffe is now a personal attack. Including, ironically, being more average. If they were ever not special or in a victimized group (as if gender dysphoria wasn't hard enough), they'd have nothing to complain about.
/r/MensRights25/08/21 06:33 PM
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Yeah, hoped the gender flip might help, but you’re right I’ve never come across a woman who’s admitted to being scarred like that, whereas the opposite is practically expected where I live
/r/MensRights25/08/21 12:23 AM
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Yeah thats pushed by feminists a lot. Usually after they succeed in getting a male space shut down. What it really means is they've once again proven their bigotry, and those men just gathered somewhere else.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:17 PM
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Don't concede ground. Ask how defensive they'll be when their son asks why their mother mutilated them. Tell those men you have as much say over genital mutilation as they do: NONE STOP DOING IT But bottom line is you are fighting psychological protection mechanisms. They don't want to admit it shouldn't be done, because then they would have done something horrible, and it's better for them if that thing isn't considered horrible.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:16 PM
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Out of curiosity, what would you suggest I tell a woman who was genitally mutilated that she was glad it was done to her? Nothing?
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:14 PM
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People often give consideration to women that they won't for men. You advocating against genital cutting is super important, as when we do it our arguments are often dismissed due to our gender. Even more helpful is if you can get your sisters to feel the same way about it as men do hearing about women being cut up. That was a crystalizing moment for me, when i was thinking about it while holding my newborn niece in my arms and thinking "How could someone think it's ok to harm this precious litt…
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:13 PM
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I feel ya. Had a row with people in CMV over it yesterday, and it wiped me out. But i'll be damned if i let some cutter have the last word on the matter.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 11:10 PM
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posted!
/r/MensRights24/08/21 04:08 PM
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You can say you would never, but OP and data show women are still doing that the vast majority of the time. Are you saying the cash, prizes, and social support have no influence on a woman's decision to end a marriage? You don't think, if they got nothing by leaving, they might put in more effort to make it work?
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:39 PM
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Haha, right!? Still giggling over that tiktok girl crying because only fans was banning porn. She's just not cut out for a "real job" pushing papers and being nice to people at the front desk, NOOOO CANT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET MONEY FOR SHOWING PEOPLE MY ASSHOLE?? lol Edit: Requested link I don't have the original, just this commentary video. Still funny.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:08 PM
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So, you've listed the excuses they give. That wasn't the question. Men can give these excuses, too, even if they're less sensitive to them. They just don't. Now, if men got cash and prizes to the tune of 50% of her assets, and social validation for doing it, THEN you might see men become sensitive to these issues. When they financially gain by blowing up the marriage.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:06 PM
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The question is why? REALLY!? Couldn't be the constant lying and indoctrination about how they have to and it's their duty/destiny since they're old enough to talk? Being raised as children by the people who win cash and prizes by divorcing dumbasses who sign on the dotted line? Media and all social groups expecting it and never questioning why they even wouldn't? I mean, the real question is how did we get enough time to ourselves to pull the wool off our eyes.
/r/MensRights24/08/21 03:01 PM
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That one is my own deduction from published research. The conclusion i took from reading several studies like these: The study directly linking PTSD and genital mutilation was done on girls which I extend as equivalent to boys based on the following studies and my own personal belief that men and women's brains are not different enough for there to be different standards of PTSD causing events. Denmark study linking MGM to ASD, demonstrating the degree with which it can psychologically harm the …
/r/MensRights23/08/21 09:44 PM
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The one where men might decide to do what they want with their own lives instead of devoting them to women's needs in some way? Yup, that's exactly the patriarchy they're scared of.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 06:08 PM
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Yeah it's like the difference between the part of your lips that are outside your mouth, versus the skin right on the inside. Same tissue, but the environment drastically changes its appearance/texture/functionality
/r/MensRights23/08/21 05:13 PM
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And most infanticide is committed by women, but somehow that doesn't seem to matter to them at all, does it? When women kill babies, they always have a reason why it was ok. Usually by lying about how it was the man's fault. Like how the fuck does this bitch say "FALSE ALLEGATIONS ARE SOOOO RARE" when it's literally a suggested tactic by divorce lawyers to women trying to maximize alimony and child support.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 04:34 PM
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and its women doing the false accusing and abusing of men and not being held accountable for it, and when we try to get them to be, bitches like you show up with "WELL MEN DO THESE OTHER THINGS SO SHUTUP ABOUT IT" Seriously, go stick your mouth in a toilet and flush. That's the treatment your words deserve. Edit: And you're the one assuming that rape is worse than a false allegation. When it's not. Wanna know how i know its not? Because people's subjective experiences aren't fucking comparable, …
/r/MensRights23/08/21 04:27 PM
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According to a nine-year study conducted by former Purdue sociologist Eugene J. Kanin, in over 40 percent of the cases reviewed, the complainants eventually admitted that no rape had occurred (Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1, 1994). Kanin also studied rape allegations in two large Midwestern universities and found that 50 percent of the allegations were recanted by the accuser. https://www.glennsacks.com/column.php?id=105 I'm sorry, what were you lying? Edit: and I LOVE how "ITS OTHE…
/r/MensRights23/08/21 04:22 PM
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google Seriously dude, it's not hard to find out what damage a genital mutilation causes. It's great that you're not having issues, that doesn't make it OK to just keep doing to baby boys. You understand that babies die from this procedure, right? Stop using you're blessedly decent experience to justify continuing to do this to others.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 04:11 PM
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Ok so you're even more full of shit than i thought. You have no proof of those numbers, and i can easily say that there are more false accusations than actual rapes (of women, i won't include the real rape culture that is prison). And before you whine about sources, i provided as many as you did.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 04:04 PM
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Protection of the mucous membrane that makes up the head of the penis, preventing keratination from occurring and making the head calloused and dry. Less need for lubricant in all sexual activities, as the foreskin gives a lot of sliding give, making extra lubrication unnecessary. And that is not to mention that the amputated parts are either 1 or 2 of the top 3 most sensitive and nerve packs parts of the penis (foreskin, and often frenulum) The psychological benefits of having a body that isn't…
/r/MensRights23/08/21 04:01 PM
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Especially when they find that the psychological damage by torturing babies like that induces learned helplessness and makes them into better soldiers. More blind obedience, less complaints about violence towards others. Same MO as training a fighting dog.
/r/MensRights23/08/21 03:57 PM
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Ok, look. Imagine you have two bowls of M&M's. In one bowl, the blue bowl, some are poisoned. If you accidentally pick a poisoned one you might be raped and killed. In the other bowl, the pink bowl, some are also poisoned. If you accidentally pick a poisoned one you will be treated like you were a poisened blue M&M, get the punishment of one, and then go to prison where you will be repeatedly beaten and raped, and then more likely killed than women who actually get poisoned blue ones. But sure, …
/r/MensRights23/08/21 03:22 PM
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biologically speaking, you're full of shit. Yes, one man can have more children faster than one women, that does not make woman more valuable than man. That makes each woman the same value, and men with different values. The man that pumps all those women is worth more than each individual women he's pumping... biologically. Also we are a parental investment focused species, and paternal investment in child raising correlates with better life outcomes. This whole "women are more valuable because…
/r/TheRedPill23/08/21 03:05 PM
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That one I’ve just heard around this forum, here’s a source I found for it tho https://openlab.citytech.cuny.edu/event-safety/history-of-occupational-safety-in-america/ While several attempts were tried and failed, most of the progress was when a feminist doctor lived in a house of working women and used them as the basis for her campaign
/r/MensRights21/08/21 01:44 PM
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Last I read it was between 70-80% But yes, women spend 300-500% more than men on average
/r/MensRights21/08/21 01:36 PM
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or just stopping social injustice. Like I wouldn't ask for reparations for decades of severed foreskins if they would just FUCKING STOP
/r/MensRights20/08/21 10:43 PM
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Factually speaking, you are full of shit. Yes society can withstand the loss of more men than women and recover more easily than the reverse, but men are the ones doing the work to keep a community/society together. If the number of them gets low enough, that community is gone. It's either absorbed by one with more men, or eradicated entirely. Your take would make sense if men contributed as much to reproduction as male bee's. Squirt and die. Human males live in an entirely different world than …
/r/MensRights20/08/21 10:40 PM
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It damn well will if we take attitudes like this. We should not accept a non-egalitarian future, and continue the efforts for change. The world is built and maintained on the backs of men, spreading the word among the brainwashed masses is absolutely a way forward.
/r/MensRights20/08/21 10:32 PM
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Feminists have their own reasons for blocking men's rights. To them gender equality is a zero sum game, and any benefit for men is a loss for women. Why governments put up with it is a different problem. The birds eye view of the issue is society treats women as human beings, and men as human doings. Any place that starts talking about men as if they are human beings (deserving of support/respect just for being alive instead of having to work for it) is a threat to the system that keeps the peop…
/r/MensRights20/08/21 09:53 PM
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"You check if they have a vagina, otherwise move on" - Duluth model feminism
/r/MensRights20/08/21 07:55 PM
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pretty sure he's saying the double standard is just fine Because clearly who is stronger is what is important when it comes to abuse, not who is abusing who
/r/MensRights19/08/21 05:31 PM
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Could have before they died, if these news articles gloss over all the deaths or talk about what could be done to avoid them.
/r/MensRights16/08/21 09:28 PM
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There are commenters here literally saying rape is worse than death. We can't even get them to the same level of consideration, the men who died are forgotten, while the women who survived receive more publicity and aid. But sure, useless conversation, irrelevant to men's rights. Established organizations forgetting and ignoring the suffering and murder of men to focus on women who had sex when they didn't want to. Yup. No discrimination going on here. Move along everyone!
/r/MensRights16/08/21 04:59 PM
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Really? Serious question? Totally looked for an invisible /s around there. Feminists are about empowering women, and they don't give two shits who they hurt on the way to do it. "Equality" doesn't mean the same thing to them. And if you'd like some proof, go look at the international gender equality index. It ranks countries by "gender equality" in different categories. Guess what happens when men are behind in a category and start to catch up? The gender "equality" index goes down. It was progr…
/r/MensRights13/08/21 11:01 PM
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Because when we do that, we get genital mutilation legislation that explicitly doesn't apply to boys. The shit feminists complain about these days doesn't compare to the shit men still deal with, that feminists specifically left them out in the cold for. We should very much have a conversation about who has it worse... and an objective one, which we haven't been able to do.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:57 PM
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F to doubt. Men needed to work together to take down large prey, then carry it together miles across all sorts of terrain back to the village. Cooperation is more important for that job than collecting berries. Saying otherwise is like saying sports teams have less cooperation with each other than their cheerleaders.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:50 PM
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Do a kickflip for every misandrist comment you read. You'll be competing with Tony Hawk in no time.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:14 PM
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Don't. Anger is the rational reaction. What you need is an outlet for that anger. It's a justified, valid emotion and deserves to be expressed. Edit: Because how how easily people take things men say here in the absolute worst way: I mean channel it into improving yourself or working out or kicking ass at a sport or something.
/r/MensRights13/08/21 10:03 PM
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Unfortunately. Let me know how i can erase it from my brain and regain that wasted time. FGM is a full scope of procedures, the mildest being a pinprick. Just like the various ranges of MGM, the worst of which splits the penis in half down the middle. Shut the fuck up with this "It's not the SAAAAME!" bullshit, it's the same enough they had to specifically call out MGM as allowed when defining FGM in law, so fuck them for doing that, and fuck you for saying the sexual mutilation of children is d…
/r/MensRights11/08/21 10:26 PM
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Because the laws we need to stop male genital mutilation already exist, it's just those people who wrote them added a little addendum at the end of the definition: "unless it's a boy". So the work to ban it was already done, boys were just explicitly excluded from it.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:45 PM
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Shockingly... the same way they do to a man
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:44 PM
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Bullshit. When definitions of genital mutilation have to have a little addendum: "Oh, unless it's a little boy, then do whatever" and it would otherwise qualify for protection, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY FUCKING COMPARABLE. Think to yourself for a bit why you're defending the genital mutilation of children with "but... one is worse so the other is ok"
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:43 PM
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Ok you clearly don't know the scope of FGM, and also this is clearly what-about-ism and distracting from the issue. It doesn't matter which one is worse, we're still talking about mutilating the genitals of children. Edit: Ironically, this responder is demonstrates one of the answers to OP's question.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:41 PM
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Lol, right? Teach consent to those we molested, mutilated, and play sexual assault of for laughs up on popular media and in society, where we also don't punish women who sexually abuse men. But remember guys! Women have it so much worse! How dare you bring up circumcision or even call it genital mutilation when FGM is so much wooooooooorse. /s God I hate our society
/r/MensRights11/08/21 07:40 PM
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Or organize against institutional sexism against men, of which there are many kinds like cutting babies genitals up and thinking that's just fine and not harmful at all. But to OP that would just be "whinging like the FDS"
/r/TheRedPill11/08/21 06:11 PM
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Different problem, but agreed. They don't pretend their nonsense has any basis in reality.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 05:56 PM
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Literally the most common form of female genital mutilation is a pinprick, fuck off with your lies. And that pinprick is still illegal under child sexual abuse laws in most countries, and the vastly more damaging male genital mutilations aren't. It is not "simply less damaging" you're just stuck in your confirmation bias that won't allow you to view it as harmful, mostly because of your sexism.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 03:11 PM
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That’s nonsense. Make and female circumcision both have ranges of severity, and your bullshit of “it’s not as bad!” Not only is a baseless comparison of the worst form of FGM to dismiss arguments about milder forms of MGM, you’re still fucking defending sexually mutilating a child.
/r/MensRights11/08/21 02:19 PM
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I was able to pick out the differences rather easily, and saw several of my own. I still stand by them. "Just accept women being women" is as stupid as "boys will be boys", and always will be. There is nothing contradictory about self improvement and also only accepting women who act appropriately and reciprocate respect. The biggest whiny bitch I see in here is OP
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 09:48 PM
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So... i'm a narcissist because... when a woman does something... it's supposedly my fault. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 05:00 PM
2

Or, just a thought, I understand completely what you're saying, and know you're still wrong. Someone not agreeing with you is not evidence they didn't understand the argument. They may just realize you're full of shit.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:53 PM
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If a scorpion can talk, it has enough mental capability to be responsible for the harm it causes others. Stop pretending women are forces of nature incapable of making informed decisions. The only reason they don't right now is because they don't face the consequences of their own decisions, men do.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/21 02:49 PM
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It was an example, you literally said there are separate moral books and that loyalty is a masculine trait. Loyalty is 80% of what every man wants in a woman, and they're not incapable of having it. They're VERY loyal to their in-groups, it's just socially acceptable to not be loyal to men, for any reason. It is NOT women are magic different fairies incapable of being decent people, which you are very much saying even if you don't intend to.
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 11:36 PM
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Thanks you, glad someone else noticed his whole post was apologizing and excusing women's shitty behavior
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 11:28 PM
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Had me until you made separate moral books for men and women. No. A lie is a lie no matter who says it, moral comparability is important. There is no such thing as a masculine or feminine moral framework. There are only morals, and which ones are more acceptable. If women decided murder was perfectly moral response to being called a bitch, that doesn't make it moral. Stop making excuses for women's shitty behavior. Just because we can't change people, doesn't mean we have to accept or tolerate t…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/21 11:25 PM
1

What message? Oh, the stupid chat thing i've never used before where you whine about just being a 'silly feminist' and 'of course you post in mens rights' in the apparently 15 messages you sent me? lol Fine i'll answer there, instead of this old thread you weren't a part of and decided to harass me on
/r/MensRights23/07/21 08:34 PM
1

And you're a toxic woman who only cares about consent when it comes to herself Edit: LOL she came here through my history from another sub
/r/MensRights23/07/21 08:24 PM
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Men are expected to be self sufficient, this has drawbacks, but also positives. It is a joy knowing you'll be able to take care of yourself. There is nothing stopping women from also doing this, they have this option in life as well as the option to let someone else take care of it for them. The problem is how they take advantage of both of these options at the same time: Demanding special treatment to achieve "equality" (read: equity) in the workplace, while also not being willing to give up th…
/r/MensRights25/06/21 10:51 PM
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That's called mentorship and education. Initiation rituals are not that at all. They are all about asserting the tribe over the individual, working to crush whatever individuality the man has. They are abusive by nature
/r/TheRedPill22/06/21 06:42 PM
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Those rituals were far more about breaking men down into cogs for society than anything that would benefit the men going through it. Women were/are just used as a carrot in that process
/r/TheRedPill22/06/21 03:30 PM
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Unless they know that being 'contaminated' by other ideas makes their indoctrination that much harder. Then it makes tons of sense. Imo, if your political stance falls apart when your members hear someone else talking... you might have other problems.
/r/MensRights15/06/21 04:56 PM
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I don't watch her either, but around this sub her advocacy of it is pretty well known. And yeah, lol, there are many subs that will ban you immediately if you post in any sub about mens rights
/r/MensRights15/06/21 04:29 PM
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Oh you didn't know her favorite face cream she advertised on her show used baby foreskins as an ingredient?
/r/MensRights15/06/21 04:23 PM
2

Exactly. It's a pretty lie to prevent us from taking action in the here and now.
/r/MGTOW12/06/21 07:03 PM
1

You submit yourself to bullshit people made up because you acting according to "God's word" is just acting in a way that is beneficial to the bastard who gave you "God's word" in the first place. Oh btw, God sent me this note: "My child! Send the author of this comment all of your money, he needs it to enact My commandments."
/r/TheRedPill10/06/21 09:25 PM
1

Oh, i forgot. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't use reason to get themselves into.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/21 09:23 PM
0

It says so because some dude wrote down that it says so. Literally the same value as me typing my post above. That's god's word because it says so. Watch this: "Hello child, this is God. Every word claiming to be my word besides this comment is a lie made by the devil. Choose the right path child!"
/r/TheRedPill10/06/21 09:22 PM
1

Yeah but supporting the other guys is a shit show, too. Ever feel like american politics is like parents telling their children "You can go to bed now, or in 5 minutes, which do you choose. Remember, it's YOUR CHOICE" Feels a lot like that to me.
/r/MensRights10/06/21 03:32 PM
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Yes i do. God came down and told me himself that all religions of the world had it backwards. Poof. I have just as much evidence as you do for yours
/r/TheRedPill10/06/21 03:04 PM
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Objective, provable, repeatable, and exists outside of your mind.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/21 03:04 PM
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You are a slave of those things, as well as an imaginary person someone made up to control you some more. You're not any more free, you just convinced yourself you are
/r/TheRedPill10/06/21 03:03 PM
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Its called "lying about birth control"
/r/MensRights09/06/21 09:00 PM
1

Well, you know how feminists whine all the time about the wage gap? and completely ignore the spending gap? (where women spend 70-80% of the money spent in the USA) Well, where are those women getting all that extra money they aren't earning themselves? Generally from men. Men going their own way means don't give money to or financially support a woman, including letting her live with you for free. This directly attacks the average woman's available financial power, available free time, and enti…
/r/MensRights09/06/21 08:45 PM
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Well when you figure it out, let us know.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/21 06:21 PM
1

So instead you make up something that exists after school, even if it doesn't actually exist, just to feel better about it? I'd rather figure actual life out, thanks.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/21 06:20 PM
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Said to the demographic most likely to actually jump off bridges for that very reason. Maybe not lying to yourself and others about the nature of reality could help now and then.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/21 06:19 PM
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yes, because lying to yourself to make yourself feel better is totally a workable solution. OR religions are full of shit to keep you useful to other people, have no basis in reality, and are generally just plain abusive.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/21 06:18 PM
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Therapy has a big focus on being seen, yeah? How being seen by peers and close friends/family is necessary for psychological development. But when men show emotions people don't like, or don't find appropriate in a man, they look away. All of them.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 08:09 PM
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Tempted to call you a troll, because i've literally never met a woman who acted like this. My ex described herself as pro mens rights, and pushed me to share my pain, but as soon as it got real she couldn't even look at me. Sharing emotions with a woman is a trap.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 07:36 PM
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Just the ones spending money, changing policy, and actually having an impact. If we could get some of these "true feminists" making change, you wouldn't hear the complaining.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 06:50 PM
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And even still with all that contempt, i've never cut someone's genitals up. hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Maybe this 'hate' isn't leading to the violent actions you're claiming it does, and instead whatever emotion is driving you to mutilate children is the problem. Yup, that makes much more sense.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:56 PM
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They also believed the sky was blue, and that we need oxygen to live. Welp, guess i have SOOO many things in common with nazis, might as well be one at this point, right?
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:47 PM
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You using religion to justify genital mutilation is all i needed to know about you, too. Glad we're on the same page, child abuser.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:44 PM
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The hell did that come from? OMG THIS GUY DOESN'T LIKE THAT WE ABUSE BABIES, HE'S GOING TO SNAP AND ATTACK US get the fuck outa here
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:43 PM
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Thank you for this. I have no hate for the jewish religion (any more than religions in general) but i have plenty of hate for those who abuse children and mutilate their genitals, no matter the excuse. And if being against child abuse makes me a jew hater then, welp, guess i'm a jew hater /shrug. Not going to change my feelings on genital mutilation because someone whined about "mah culture!"
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:23 PM
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If child abuse is a central tenant of your religion, maybe you deserve the hate.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:20 PM
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Even one fewer genital mutilation due to how we react to this makes the effort worth it.
/r/MensRights24/05/21 04:19 PM
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