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| 164 | The myth of incels and self-worth | social issues | BreakThings99 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/21 08:55 PM |
| 134 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weak | social issues | BreakThings99 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:04 PM |
| 6 | MensLib is no different than typical anti-vaxxers | mental health | BreakThings99 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/05/22 04:15 PM |
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| 1 | As leftist neurodivergent men, do you feel unwelcomed in leftist spaces or rejected in dating even with your best foot forward?'Neurodivergent' is a slur meant to dehumanize and belittle autistic struggles. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/11/24 01:04 PM |
| 4 | Guys Opinion about this last statement?All of these things involve men. Men are involved in political organizing, disablities, being colonized, etc etc etc. YouTube essayers are a bunch of privileged idiots. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/02/24 07:00 PM |
| 1 | What is happening to this sub?But MensLibs IS an alt-right forum. They despise all men that are not cis, white, rich. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/24 08:08 AM |
| 210 | What is happening to this sub?The problem with MensLib is not their support for women. The problem with MensLib is that they censor anyone who talks about women hurting men. That should be your guideline. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 12:19 AM |
| -19 | What is happening to this sub?Overturning Roe v. Wade will not bring liberation for men. I don't care about shit. Men don't have to carry the physical burden of pregnancy. Men don't carry the fetus. Men's opinion DOES count less in this aspect. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/02/24 12:18 AM |
| 1 | We do not live in a “hookup” culture and the amount of casual sex going on is grossly exaggeratedI agree. I'm a social person who goes to many social events and met a lot of people. There is NO hookup culture. People do sometimes hook up, but most people's sex lives are extremely dry and boring. I met a few people who actually had the sort of sex life people think about when they think 'hookup culture'. The only places where I found this are communities whose core is being sexually open (BDSM, poly, and such). But they're very niche. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/24 04:38 PM |
| 3 | "Men's greatest fear in pursuing relationship with a woman is that he will be laughed at or rejected. Women's greatest fear is that she will be physically harmed-raped-killed." -Thoughts?Women's greatest fear in the workplace is that they will be paid less Men's greatest fear is that they will be killed Two can play this game. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/09/23 10:45 AM |
| 17 | Are “incels” bad?Incels have killed less than any world religion. So if using 'incel' as a slur is alright because of the few terrorist, it goes it's alright to use 'jew' or 'muslim' as a slur. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/23 08:01 AM |
| 5 | Just a general gripe.Next up: Black men are just violent, and police brutality is justified. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/08/23 11:39 AM |
| 5 | "men aren't men anymore"If right wingers care about men, they should speak against wars and workplace deaths. ut somehow. in 4 years of Trump, I never heard him trying to dismantle the horrible military-industrial complex. And fuck Putin too for sending men to die for no reason. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 10:10 PM |
| 3 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Objectifying someone is viewing them as a tool, means to an end, and seeking to use them without any mutuality. It's about seeking just to 'gain' something from them with zero respect to them as a whole person. Sexual attraction in and of itself is not objectifying. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 10:07 PM |
| 3 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I agree some academics write as if the female gaze is the opposite - pure, moral, non-objectifying and so forth There is also a female gaze which is just as predatory. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 10:03 PM |
| -1 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".It doesn't imply a generalization. It describes a specific way that predatory men gaze at their prey. I doubt any here disagrees male predators exist. What's lacking, and what I emphasized, is talking about female predators. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 10:01 PM |
| 5 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".Objectification is not the same as being sexually attracted. This is not what I meant. I reject the demonization of sexuality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 12:40 PM |
| 16 | Why I hate the term "male gaze": yet another example of how feminism perpetuates selectively conservative ideas like "traditional female gender norms = bad, traditional male gender norms = good".I think the term is helpful in analyzing how men can be misogynistic and objectifying. But I think we NEED to also talk about the Female Gaze, how women objectify men (including gay men and trans men) and so forth. The problem is not criticizing men's misogyny, but the denial of women holding often similar views. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/02/23 11:16 AM |
| 5 | Police brutality is a men's issueViewing men as dangerous is a typical way to oppress them. This form of oppression towards men justifies itself by assuming those men have power. In this case, black men are 'strong brutes', they're powerful. Therefore shooting them is self-defense, not oppression right? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/23 11:02 PM |
| 9 | The “incel” slur is making it impossible for me to use the internetI find that the word is used mostly against men who are not in any position of power. The least attractive men are NOT misogynists. Plenty of sexual abusers and misogynists have sex. I know feminists who have sex with known abusers simply because they're hot. The least attractive men are the men who are at the bottom of the 'social ladder' - the disabled, the poor, the mentally ill, the wrong race, the ugly, etc etc. 'Incel' is a slur used against these men, and in fact enforces rigid masculinit… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/23 10:59 PM |
| 8 | Analysing feminist rhetoric: The hypocrisy of the "patriarchy that hurts men too."Many feminists are, actually, traditionalists. When they say 'patriarchy hurts men too', it is a way for them to avoid examining their biases. I found that many feminists are actually fairly classists, ableists and racists. They rarely if ever talk about supporting men who don't fit the strict masculine guidelines. If anything, they end up enforcing this sort of 'rigid masculinity'. If you're a feminist and you refuse to examine your own misandry, you are what's wrong with feminism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/02/23 10:57 PM |
| 3 | Have You Ever Experience Sexual Misconduct From Women?I got raped by my ex-gif. She was also younger than me. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/09/21 01:37 PM |
| 4 | Patriarchy theory and toxic masculinity are mainly used by reactionaries to detract from issues and shut down conversationsOne good thing about MeToo is that it focused on high-status men. Marilyn Manson, Harvey Weinstein, Ian Watkins, David Bowie, Miles Davis - these people could get away with it because of their high-status. Yet the still most common slur against is 'incel' or 'neckbeard', implying that if you're a misogynist then you can't 'get pussy'. The thing is, all the hardcore misogynists or abusers I know have no trouble being attractive. I mean, Nicki Minaj even hangs around rapists because they're high-s… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/21 01:59 PM |
| 12 | Patriarchy theory and toxic masculinity are mainly used by reactionaries to detract from issues and shut down conversationsThese people want to step on men of lower social ranks. Tackling the higher classes is harder. Often, these are the men that women want to be with. That's why they'll use 'incel' as a slur, despite most sexual violence committed by high-status men. It's easier to blame the lone gunman, the lone, desperate terrorist instead of tackling the system that gave birth to it. It's easier to demonize a single Islamic terrorist than ask what kind of culture and history makes people think it's legitimate t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/21 11:48 AM |
| 0 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakThe causes for such wars are complicated? How privileged can you be to think war is anything less than an industry? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/21 11:44 AM |
| 1 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakI'm not saying eating meat isn't costly, but don't go around pretending people giving up on war isn't beneficial to the planet, animals and our health. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/09/21 12:35 AM |
| 2 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakI'm surprised that people think eating meat is more harmful to the environment than an industrially literally dedicated to creating weapons of mass destruction and killing. Americentrism really hurts the left. Just because a lot of americans have never seen war doesn't mean the military-industrial complex isn't rampaging and ruining lives in other parts of the world. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/09/21 12:26 PM |
| 2 | I feel like I have wasted my youthI think it was school that did you more harm than Uni. Studying in Uni is actually worthwhile for self-development, but studying in high school is pretty much a waste of time. These are the years we were supposed to develop social skills, but instead schooling rips it from us | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 06:51 PM |
| 10 | I feel like I have wasted my youthI wrote 2 posts about how schooling is an oppressive system that needs to be destroyed. You just prove my point. It's okay to be angry. Fuck those systems. They weren't meant to help us, but keep us down. We must unlearn what they did to us and oppose them. (I did have a much better experience in university, but universities are serious institutions and not brainwashing like schools). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 04:07 PM |
| 1 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakSame here, but that's because I don't have allegiance to any actual camp. I just have my views. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 04:05 PM |
| 2 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakFeminists aren't a unified group who all think alike. We should be beyond these gross generalizations. I do think many of them tend to romanticize capitalism via STEM and "whoa being a CEO is sooooooooo cool!!!". I've seen here a lot of feminists putting out general critiques of capitalism, without understanding the specifics of working-class males. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 02:52 PM |
| 2 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakThat's why I can't get with a totally anti-feminist agenda, and I don't see feminism as the enemy. Sure, feminists are awful when talking about men's issues - and I'll criticize them if they're spitting bullshit or if they actively pushing to hurt men. But I don't think my worldview and objectives are contrary to feminism in general. I just apply some of their methods to my own experience as born-male. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 10:32 AM |
| 14 | Capitalism Is Making You LonelyIs anyone surprised? Father goes home late and exhausted. How can he have time to connect to his family? He's fucking exhausted. Schooling forces parents to judge their kids by how good they are at math, pushing a wedge between parents and kids. Capitalism insists that you, as a men, are worthless unless you're rich as fuck. So no one wants to connect with you. Stop shoving me shit about 'growth' or whatever. Capitalism is incompatible with human nature. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 09:36 AM |
| 3 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakWhile I find a lot of anti-capitalist sentiments in feminists, they tend to forget or not care how it affects men. The apex fallacy is strong. They do a great job describing about how women are oppressed or suffering, but utterly fail to understand the male experience. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 09:23 AM |
| 1 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakI'll be honest and say I think ALL of us, both men and women, have toxic ideas about the other genre. The conversations should start being more compassionate, instead of a 'let's slay the demon' vibe. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/09/21 09:17 AM |
| 3 | The myth of incels and self-worthThey tried telling incels their worth isn't in attracting women, but apparently the natural desires are ingrained. Society doesn't teach us to need sexual intimacy - it's a natural urge no different than eating or breathing or socializing. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 11:38 PM |
| 20 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakWhat you describe - those sort of problematic relationship - are also partly because I don't see women discussing critically what they find attractive in men. While I see discussions about how men view women, I don't see the opposite - discussions about how women view men. There's room for both. I met plenty of men with toxic and objectifying ideas about women. I don't think we should shy away or silence women who talk about their experience with such men. I just think it should go both ways - w… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 11:37 PM |
| 49 | I don't hate the hypergamy, I hate those who kept me weakThey're critical of how the Old Ways hurt women, not how they hurt men. I think the lack of popularity of the antiwar movement among leftists is partly because of that. War is mostly where men of lower ranks get sent off to die (so the high-class, including both men and women, can make money). | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 10:02 PM |
| 6 | Some very interesting, and shocking, facts about boys under Taliban ruleI'm very disappointed at how antiwar sentiments aren't common in leftist spaces. Where the fuck are all the antiwar slogans? What happened to 'fuck war'? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:13 PM |
| 6 | The myth of incels and self-worthGaming got flak because it's way easier to criticize than other dominant cultures. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 07:38 PM |
| 3 | The myth of incels and self-worthI'm not too well-versed in the history of medical science, but it does seem true - the male body was the 'default' body, and the female body tended to be judged according to default male body. Old philosophy, even modern ones (from the Descartes era) is often very misogynistic. It will be odd if the history of medical science will somehow not show that sort of misogyny. That same misogyny also appeared in the birth of psychology since, again, it was mostly men researching women. Yet since it was… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Modern feminists thrive on male suffering at worst, and ignore any of our issues at best. Why shouldn't I start voting red?What do republicans offer you? What do they offer black, poor and neurodivergent men? Chickenhawks send men to die in iraq to make money for armsdealers. Religion teaches you that if you're gay you're evil. They're demonizing both trans women (who start off as living as men) AND transmen. Criticizing feminism is fine. But pretending the old values and systems are supportive of us is being blind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 04:19 PM |
| 14 | Discussion: How a left wing argument for Men's Rights could have curbed the growth of the Taliban. What can we do to prevent this from happening again?Demystefy the military-industrial complex. Don't let people glorify war. Respect veterans and the people who ate shit there, but remind people war is a racket. War is a way for powerful men and women to send off people on the lower ranks to die. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 04:17 PM |
| 5 | The myth of incels and self-worthPsychology started off focused on middle-to-upper-class women. Oh yes, it had a very misogynistic past - Freud had some nasty things to say about women. But women were the central subject. So the field remains fairly dominated by women, with men being fairly invisible or taken for granted. I heard there's a similar historical problem in medical, physical health. The male body was the 'default' and the female body / female health was neglected. Capitalism, schooling and other authoritarian system… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 04:13 PM |
| 7 | The myth of incels and self-worthMost people who speak against 'toxic masculinity' are those who enforce it. They're the ones who get offended whenever men are anything less than superheroic, pure human beings. And yes, I'm shocked how often these people completely ignore the issue of loneliness. Why do they think being alone is so fun? Can't they recognize men want to be loved and desired too? Being vulnerable also means being flawed - including morally. I think that's partly why Kanye West's music is considered vulnerable eve… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 04:08 PM |
| 7 | The myth of incels and self-worthConservative views, specifically religious ones, tend to view sex and sexual desire as evil. Giving birth is good, but sex is a necessary evil we must commit to do that. Sex on its own is never considered a good thing. I was raised in a Jewish environment and studied Augustine a bit, who's one of the most prominent Christian thinkers. The idea of sex as a way to connect to people is doesn't work in conservative views. Sex negative feminists and religious people often found common ground in that. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 04:04 PM |
| 12 | The myth of incels and self-worthSocial skills are exactly what I meant when I criticized schooling. I have no idea why that term escaped me. Schooling - especially harsh, STEM-focused schooling, stuns the development of social skills. Social skills develop by trial and error and experience. People develop social skills by meeting and interacting with a variety of people in a variety of contexts. I did tremendous progress despite being autistic because I kept looking for new environments to blend it, and put conscious effort in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 12:48 PM |
| 10 | The myth of incels and self-worthI won't be surprised if bullying, especially in the early years of kindergarten / school partly causes that. If your first interactions with non-family members are violence, you'll learn to be suspicious and will have a harder time developing. That's ESPECIALLY if you always 'lost' to the bullies. I also suspect many incels are victims of child abuse by their mothers - not necessarily sexual, but rather being over-dominated. That might explain the extreme low confidence near women, and the bitte… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 11:25 AM |
| 2 | We need to fight against accusations of being a part of the "alt-right"The alt-right generally romanticizes a mythical past before all that 'SJW crap'. This sub seems to want to go foward, and apply the 'SJW stuff' to issues of men. It does not view 'feminism' as the sole oppressor that must be fought against. It just asks what can harm men and how to solve these problems. There is no desire here for women to 'go back to the place', just how to alleviate the suffering many men go through. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:54 AM |
| 1 | You cannot advocate for men's rights without being a feminist. You cannot be a feminist without advocatin for men's rights.I agree. My problem isn't feminism in and of itself - I'm not a reactionary. I don't want to go back to the old days. But I WILL criticize hypocrisies and harmful ideas. I want to move forward. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:46 AM |
| 40 | Some very interesting, and shocking, facts about boys under Taliban ruleThe military is a system that deliberately oppresses men - uses them as cannon fodder for the military-industrial complex. Fuck the military. And anyone who thinks it's a privilege to be a soldier gets a folder full of pictures of charred bodies. Then let's see them talk about privilege. Fuck war. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:41 AM |
| -3 | The myth of incels and self-worthHard disagree. The reason they shoved math and other useless bullshit in my face, is because it kept me weak and docile. I was raised clearly to be weak. All my desires are weird or wrong. I just had to fit whatever system I was put into. It happened to other friends, and the only guys who got out of it in a good shape was those who were confrontational and adopted a "fuck all of you" attitude. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:39 AM |
| 17 | The myth of incels and self-worthThat's the thing! Sex IS intimacy. The only reason we divorced sex from intimacy is due to conservative, sex negative views which taught us to objectify women. I'm not saying sex has to be romantic at all. I'm all for FWB, but I can never have sex with a woman and then just go "alright we're done, get out", y'know? If I wanted an orgasm without any sort of intimacy, I'd just wank. We're not taught to desire sex, but we're taught that desiring intimate, warm sex is evil. It makes you a wuss - and… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:36 AM |
| 7 | The myth of incels and self-worthMost people don't want to comprehend how people can become toxic / violent / criminals. That's a sign of privilege. If you can't understand the mentality of someone who's hurt and thinks violence or hatred is the solution, you will never solve that problem. Even ContraPoints recognized a lot of TERFs are women who are actually hurt by men. A lot of RadFem literature clearly shows some sort of trauma reaction towards sexual abuse. I have no problem calling those radfems misogynistic or transphobi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:27 AM |
| 15 | The myth of incels and self-worthI now tell people that using 'incel' as a slur is also ableism. Many people at risk of being an incel are autistic - especially autistic men, who tend to suffer more from loneliness than autistic women. But apparently, reading the distress and depression of incel forums can never spring an ounce of empathy from these people. They assume their misogyny is exactly like the sort of fratboy misogyny. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:23 AM |
| 6 | The myth of incels and self-worthExactly! While I agree incel communities tend to be misogynistic, it's misogyny learned by being isolated and invisible. If they've been lonely all their life, if they've been pushed down all their life, why are we shocked they start to develop such toxic thoughts? After all, abusive people often grew up in abusive environments. Many abusive behaviors can be viewed from the abuser's POV a a sort of 'self-defense'. It's amazing how often progressives will criticize the prison system and criminal … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 09:21 AM |
| 16 | The myth of incels and self-worthI do not think we should downplay or ignore the misogyny. I also think it can't be separated from the issues of being lonely and stuck on the lower ranks of society. Isolation and bad experiences breed toxicity. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 02/09/21 12:24 AM |
| 38 | The myth of incels and self-worthThe people at ContraPoints' sub got mad at me for saying incels are partly a result of the system, especially schooling. Our system deliberately aims to create weak, frustrated men who will be worker ants - men who will study, get a good job, but won't fulfill their sexual / persona needs. I did not say women are at fault (I mean, many of them have toxic ideas about men, but that's another story). I didn't say feminism is a demon and we must Go Back to the Old Days. I just said incels are a prod… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/21 11:34 PM |
| 4 | Many "liberals" suddenly embrace conservative arguments when it comes to men's issues.I find that no one is more supportive of traditional masculinity than progressives / feminists in general: - Making fun of men's vulnerability - Expecting men to always be the strong provider, so if they talk about their issues they must preface with 'women have it worse' - Expecting men to not have needs or wants, that makes you 'entitled'. Men should be subvariant to the Social Order - Romanticizing or thinking traditional roles for males are privilege, while some of them are actually dangerou… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/21 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Do you think that women largely underestimate the amount of social and relational power they hold?Of course they underestimate, and by underestimating, they get more power. I've seen plenty of women actually in very powerful positions, especially in social groups - and vulnerability often gave them a lot of extra power over there. One group of friends was really a grey area of sorts - one girl there had IMMENSE power, but the other guys acted passive-aggressive because they constantly felt threatened by it. No surprise that group disintegrated quickly. I think a lot of homophobia in women co… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/08/21 12:13 PM |
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