Breakfastcrisis Archive

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3	Tea app reportedly spreading false allegations about men Pretty sure neither of these things should exist. It’s almost inevitable that tech leaders will try and make money out of dating, but it’s not something we should be letting happen. I’ve said from the start, dating apps are a bad idea. Don’t put your shit on there. It’s time dating altogether came back offline.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/07/25 09:56 AM
3	Financial abortion I think this is it. There are several components of responsibility a potential parent is trying to relieve themselves of when they’re faced with an unwanted pregnancy. Rearing is obviously the biggest component, but financial responsibility consistently scores as one of the biggest obstacles for parenthood (even people who want to be parents). So it is reasonable (even some don’t think practical) for one to propose a moral right to relief of financial responsibility for both men and women.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/05/25 07:18 AM
2	Financial abortion So, I think there’s a fair point in there but there is no such thing as an abnegation of parental responsibility that does not involve pain. Ultimately, no woman should be forced to be a mother. No man should be forced to be a father. The mechanism through which one relieves themselves of that responsibility is controversial in both cases. Abortion is controversial for obvious reasons. Paternal absenteeism is controversial for obvious reasons. I think men should give the woman notice (i.e., he s…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/05/25 07:12 AM
1	Dealing with transphobia and targeting despite me making it clear I’m an ally (scroll to see what I’m talking about). I keep seeing this claim about brain sex. I’ve tried to find a study that shows a match between gender identity and brain structure in a credible and consistent way, but I could only find one that showed some pattern deviations from birth sex towards the natal sex of a trans woman’s gender identity, but still with greater pattern uniformity to their birth sex (assigned). Just to explain why it’s something I’m interested in, I worked on a conference and journal special issue press pack on the myt…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	01/05/25 05:38 AM
12	Homophobia and Misogyny although linked aren't the same and people who say that think we aren't men. Wow. Stumbled into this sub randomly for the first time today, but that description you just read is exactly what happened in my experience with college LGBT clubs. The only people left at the end were women and gay men who were completely subordinate to whatever those women said. The environment got so bad that it eventually disbanded and tried to start again the next year. I found out later that happened every year for four years in a row.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	01/05/25 04:22 AM
3	Women on women hate is treated differently compared to men on men hate. I’d look it at this way. If misogyny is systemic, gender is pretty much arbitrary when it comes to participation. This is where the black and white thinking that comes with well-meaning progressive thinking really hits its limit. As others have alluded to, minute points of beauty enhancement are stereotypically things that men don’t pay attention to. There are lots of complaints about that kind of thing. The problem isn’t that women are bad. The problem is that women are just normal people, who …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/04/25 12:48 PM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I mean probably for people who have had to deal with angry virgins yes. I thankfully haven’t met one in the wild.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 12:22 AM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? So all lesbian sex is masturbation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 12:19 AM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? You mean the woman who doesn't ever mention men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:18 PM
0	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Yeah this comment is just from some virgin who has no idea. I mean, Jesus, look at its profile. Look at the deranged school shooter-esque comments. Absolutely emetic. Of course no one wants to be with a loser like that. It's a self inflicted injury.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:15 PM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? What on earth are you talking about? The OP commenter is lesbian. It's got fuck all to do with men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:13 PM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Girls pretending to be thin on the internet have weird opinions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 09:18 PM
4	Men and women are not the same that is okay. I see these statistics and I believe them. But I don’t see it in the wild. Probably just my sample is pretty middle class, hippy-esque tech bros. But the guys I know are extremely close with one another. They properly look out for each other. They don’t argue, they’re proper bros. Same really of the girls. I hear a lot about how bitchy women are and how they can’t get on. But I’ve not seen much of that in reality either. Like I say, probably just a unique sample of people. But it makes me sad th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 08:53 PM
6	For those that believe many of men's problems would be solved by having more sex, how you would feel if it was only pity sex? Yes. I don't think we'll agree on everything. But let's make this point: men are not a single group and women are not a single group. If you tried to apply this logic to any other grouping of humans, you'd be considered a bigot. Everyone please stop generalizing about men and women. Come on, it's Christmas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 08:04 PM
3	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? But if people can be gay, which is a sexual variation, don't you think it's plausible there's a vast amount of diversity in the way people experience sexuality that isn't neatly described with discreet categories? In other words, saying you aren't a straight man if you're not immediately feeling lust towards a woman is an incredibly specific claim that runs contrary to everything we know about humans. Sexuality is like every other part of human experience: subject to diversity within any given p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 07:59 PM
6	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? You described demisexuality. A minority of the population is demisexual. Thats not a generalization its a fact lol. They arent having sex with a man who they are not physically attractive and women regularly say that themselves I don't 100% agree, but it's a fair point. That is the right term to describe what I mentioned. Personally, I just don't think it's a well enough established sexuality. I think it could describe a lot of people's experience. But I take your point completely. Well made. I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 07:17 PM
3	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Ah I get it. So a precondition for sexuality in men is immediate lust towards the gender they're attracted to. See, I mistakenly thought I was gay. But I meet strange men all the time who are definitely attractive and I never feel immediate lust towards them. So that must mean I'm not gay. That's going to be a tough one to explain to my boyfriend. Or would you argue that it doesn't work the same way for gay men? If so, why and how?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 06:45 PM
2	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I completely agree. It really doesn't help at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 06:39 PM
3	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? You're a man. I'm a man. I've admitted I can't really know because I'm not a woman. But even if I was a woman, women aren't a monolith. They don't all act and think in the same way, so even women can't generalize from their own experiences. Now, I haven't made any statements about what women are like, but you have. That's interesting to me. You said "most women aren't like that". You could be right, but how would you know you're right? If you found your personality didn't compensate for your app…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 05:53 PM
1	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I have never met a guy that is not "like this". And I've had a lot of male friends. Are you female? Cause men often don't advertise this about ourselves. I'm a man. Virtually all of my friends are heterosexual men. I mean friends are self-selecting, so I guess there will be a bias here. I'm not like that, so I don't have friends like that. "One or more" would have been more accurate. Several was not a big part of my thing. Ah, that's fair enough. So that's where the confusion's come in. I have n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 05:42 PM
1	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. When there was a Red Pill sub on Reddit they generalized about women in negative ways. This was an error in two senses: Moral Factual Generalizing about women is wrong because it's misogynistic (moral error). Generalizing about women is also wrong because it's inaccurate (factual error). So why did it happen? Because men were talking to one another about women. They were sharing their experiences and grievances. They all had their own stories, which they abstracted into generalizable observation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 05:39 PM
6	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I don't know. I'm not a woman. But I will say for myself, I don't have sex with people I don't find attractive. I can find people attractive based on their personality. Personally, for me, can change the way I perceive someone's attractiveness completely. Don't get me wrong, there are limits. Everyone has a threshold based on their preferences. But I can definitely move from having little to no attraction to having intense attraction based on personality. Like I say, that's just me. I can't gene…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 05:01 PM
2	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? But we still see that behavior. Guys go to clubs and want to fuck the first hottie they meet. Regardless of anything.. we don't care where she works, what her personality is like. See, this is an abstraction from experience. It's a broad generalization, which will apply to some men but not to others. You may be speaking for yourself here, I don't know. I don't know guys like this personally, but I'm not going to gaslight you here. I'm sure they exist in a signifiant enough number for you and oth…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:56 PM
3	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Are you saying this to make a point that you've heard women say men would fuck anything that moves? If so, some women say that, yes. They are wrong. Them generalizing about men is wrong. You generalizing about women holding that view of men is also wrong. It's the same error, different issue. Yes, generalizations usually represent some truth. It means there's enough of a population exhibiting the characteristic in question for it to be a social meme. But that doesn't mean they are accurate enoug…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:31 PM
1	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. You're probably right. I'm missing the context in all likelihood. I don't frequent this sub, so I've probably missed most of the posts you're talking about. But if it is the tradwife shit. It needs to stop. It's so weird. Obviously if that makes certain women happy, it's not for me to judge at all. However, men expecting things like "obedience" is just crazy in 2024 and, yes, if you want a "traditional" woman, you better stop bitching and be a "traditional" man. You said "it's almost ingrained i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:26 PM
5	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I love this comment. This is basically what I've observed. People want to make claims that someone has to be a number on some sort of looks scale (however such a scale would even be arbitrated), but personality is a big thing. I'm a gay man and charisma and personality can cover 90% of attraction for me. I'm not sure where that leaves heterosexual men to be fair. I'm not sure if it's easier to work on looks than personality, but at least one of them doesn't have an upper limit in terms of potent…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:18 PM
9	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I mean this essentially the answer, isn't it? Lots of people want to make sweeping generalisations. I understand that — it's a tool for making life more manageable. But the answer is pretty much always "it depends".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:13 PM
6	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I'm a guy, but yes 100% to this. I feel exactly the same way. I don't really understand that thing where people get instantly turned on by someone's looks. They could be an asshole. I'm the same as you. I need to know something about their personality to get into them at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:11 PM
2	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Sure, we have our evolutionary history and we can certainly observe en masse certain behaviours in other animals that might reflect the mating strategies you've described. But, today, humans are a little more complicated. If this mating strategy is part of human instinct, it doesn't bear out in practice because our intelligence overrides it. Contraception, for instance. People instinctively want to have sex for pleasure but they use prophylactics to prevent impregnation, unless they are ready to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:10 PM
–	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? That's awful. No one deserves that. People don't deserve a lot of things terrible things that are perpetrated against them by a lot of people. I'm sorry that you went through all that. I am also sorry that 22 people were killed at an Ariana Grande at the hands of an Islamist terrorist. I'm sorry that Russia has killed thousands of civilians in Ukraine. I'm sorry that a trans boy in Nashville killed 6 people in a school shooting last year. I don't hate Muslims. I don't hate Russians. I don't hate…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 04:08 PM
3	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? TIL: There's a female equivalent to red pill misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 03:55 PM
23	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Your average man isn’t hot enough to get women based on looks alone I'm going to take a stand for average men here and say that a lot of men considered "average" are very good-looking. I know guys who easily meet the criteria for "Hollywood good looks", but aren't considered hot because they don't have the status. So there's some nuance here. Status probably plays a bigger role in the perception of men's attractiveness than it does for women. I should say I know nothing about women but I think y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 03:51 PM
3	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? No problem that you assumed. We all do that at some point. I understand why you'd assume that. It's human nature to simplify things, promote the groups we're part of and allocate blame to groups we're not a part of. So, yes, you'll definitely hear people position this view as being exclusively promoted by men. But, as we've both observed, both men and women promote this perspective. I'm sure you've also heard men say things about male issues that have you made you think, "Well, that's bullshit!"…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 03:25 PM
8	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? OG commenter will have her own perspective, but to me this is what each word implies: Have = participate (e.g., "we're having a party") Give = offer, grant (e.g., "I'm giving you this old family heirloom"). I wouldn't beat someone over the head for using "give", but I do think "have" implies mutual participation in a way that I'm much more comfortable with. Don't get me wrong. Lots of men and women (e.g., Jersey Shore-esque people, some religious conservatives) believe that women "give" sex to m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 03:16 PM
6	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Yeah, definitely. And it's a fair point. I can see how you might assume I was referring to men framing it that way. Some women definitely do as well. Sadly, men and women share bad and self-injurious ideas about their own sex all the time. Neither me or the original commenter were putting the blame on men or women in particular. It's just an unhelpful framing, whoever it comes from. That's why I didn't say "most miserable men on the planet". I have found women who frame sex like that are routine…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:54 PM
9	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I get this. I experience something similar, but I'm not sure if there's a word for it. I don't feel in the slightest bit attracted to someone until I get some kind of feeling about their personality. I can tell someone is descriptively an attractive person (in the same way I can say that a dog is cute), but I don't feel in any way compelled to them until I see something in their personality I like. I think this has probably kept me out of trouble over the years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:23 PM
7	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? I'm not an academic in this field, but it seems to me there is a non-trivial possibility that this analysis oversimplifies human sexual psychology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:20 PM
32	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Thank you. The people who believe women "give" rather than "have" sex seem to be some of the most miserable people on the planet. The language of "give" implies that sex is a finite, non-replenishable resource women have to allocate cautiously for fear of depleting their inventory of sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:16 PM
5	Is it true that women give sex to have love? That the end goal for women is emotional bonding, not any sort of physical fulfillment? Painting the walls in your house must a breeze for you with all these broad brush strokes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:12 PM
2	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. See, I'm the opposite. I've been low class most of my life, so I often can't keep up with my friends or partners, who tend to be able to afford going to more fun places. So the only way for me to enjoy places like that is if I'm lucky enough to have a generous friend or partner. I see what you mean. You're saying if you get asked to go somewhere that's out of your price range, you're not going to bankrupt yourself to go. But if someone wants you there and is happy to pay, you're happy to accept …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:10 PM
2	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. If you've misunderstood me, that's my fault. I probably wasn't clear enough. I will pay for dinner no matter who did the asking (pro tip: approach the waiter away from your table and settle the bill before it can become a discussion). However, I don't like it when someone feels entitled to a meal at my expense simply because: I asked them out, my gender, or because I earn more. It's nice to do nice things for people out of generosity, but when it becomes an expectation it takes all the joy out o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 01:39 PM
2	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. I probably can't help much here because I would never date a woman; however, I'd always offer to pay on a date, whether I was asked out or did the asking out. I have never accepted someone paying the bill. It just feels weird when I've had a good time. The only time I've ever accepted it is when there's going to be another date and we agree I'll pick it up next time. Though I always want to pay, the idea of someone feeling entitled to dinner at my expense is a little off-putting. I've asked if y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 12:20 PM
1	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. Out of interest, is your advice based on your current dating situation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 12:08 PM
3	Why does the perception that "most men are physically unattractive or below average" exist among women? I find it quite hard to understand tbh. I want a partner to be independent, in control, charismatic, respectful, nurturing. They’re not attributes I’d say are attractive in uniquely to either sex, they’re attractive to both. The deferring and loyal stuff I’m not so sure about. I’m their boyfriend, not their owner. I can’t really relate to the need for deference. What does deference mean to when you’re thinking of a partner?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/24 08:49 AM
1	A woman with a promiscuous past or present who treats you like a king is 100x better than a rigid, traditional prude who treats you like you're average I know right. All of this stuff is crazy. The promiscuity issue, the idea of a woman treating you like a king. It all just screams insecurity and a lack of experience with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 03:14 AM
-2	A woman with a promiscuous past or present who treats you like a king is 100x better than a rigid, traditional prude who treats you like you're average I think this explains a lot of the red pill stuff. Guys that don’t know how to have sex that are angry about their lack of ability	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/24 03:11 AM
–	"You can change your weight, but we can't change our height" is a failed attempt to shame women's preferences I take the overall point, but there is an access problem when it comes to height growth. I don’t understand it either way. I’m not obese or short and I really don’t care about either very much when it comes to dating. However, eating fewer calories costs less than eating more calories. Height surgery is very expensive, involves huge risk and has a long recovery time. People have issues with food, which is why they’re overweight. So it’s not 100% to say “just stop eating too much”, but it’s also …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/24 07:03 PM
2	Why don't you approach men? Jesus, you’re here too. Take your virgin, constantly wanking, porn-posting energy offline and touch some grass, get some therapy, go the gym and then fuck right off with your weird ass misogyny. It’s not anyone else’s fault no woman wants to fuck you. The incel life is not it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 12:39 AM
2	i'm genuinely reading through and crying Absolutely. OP shouldn't blame themselves or their gender. They actually seem like a really nice person.	/r/MensRights	21/01/23 03:43 PM
36	What do men mean when they want a “submissive” wife? Important to note that this goes the opposite way around too. Many women also want a man who's dominant enough to protect them, but submissive enough to do as they say. Just look at the "golden retriever boyfriend" for example. That doesn't justify a man wanting a girlfriend who has no opinions and just does he says. But the worst of both men and women seem to want submissive partners. Often they're the only be consistently willing to forgo their own needs and submit to their partner's instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 10:25 PM
2	I honestly never thought I’d be here, in this subreddit, yet here we are. As someone who's been in feminist groups, I've heard throwaway comments about mens rights movements for years about how they're all just communities designed to harbour thinly veiled misogyny. I've not seen that here. Of course you see examples of men talking about their shared experiences with women, but only to the same extent (and often with less venom than) feminists do about men. I've had to unlearn a lot preconceived ideas about what this is. Posts like yours are exactly the kind of thing …	/r/MensRights	03/01/23 07:17 PM
1	Am I wrong for feeling this way? 100% agreed.	/r/MensRights	02/01/23 05:35 PM
1	Am I wrong for feeling this way? And thank you for challenging my point. I don't think I worded my comment in the clearest way,	/r/MensRights	02/01/23 04:52 PM
-9	Am I wrong for feeling this way? Yeah, I totally agree. I can't think of a romantic or sexual preference that should be challenged in practice. My thoughts were just if he really wanted to continue the relationship and didn't want to feel the way he's feeling, that maybe therapy could help. But I personally doubt it would make a big differences. Beyond preference, which is before a relationship, I'd say love in a committed relationship absolutely needs to be processed rationally. Crazy jealousy, controlling girlfriends and seri…	/r/MensRights	02/01/23 04:51 PM
-34	Am I wrong for feeling this way? I think get the therapy. These feelings aren't rational, so maybe therapy could help. That being said, it might not change those feelings and it mightn't be healthy to string her along if you think you'll feel that disgust for a long time.	/r/MensRights	02/01/23 04:10 PM
2	How the media frames the suicide epidemic. Jesus fuck. Not been in this sub Reddit before, then encountered this. This is some crazy shit.	/r/MensRights	31/12/22 01:23 PM
1	Maybe I don't deserve a high-quality man after all But why are you insecure that you need that? You don’t compete with a partner, you have your own experiences and success and support one another. You should work on feeling confident	/r/RedPillWomen	26/09/21 12:27 PM