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| 9 | Instead of Mansions vs. House, An Employer/Employee Analogy that Accounts Both Perspectives? | Discussion | BrofessorLongPhD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 02:16 AM |
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| 12 | It's not the absolute number of past sexual partners that matters, but the relative numberIf most guys could do just that, there wouldn’t be much activity on this sub lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/22 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Men and women of PPD, what are your red flags?It's not that you can't assess it. You should be assessing if what the other person brings to your relationship table aligns with your needs as a couple. Where the question goes wrong is people often ask it with a certain superiority undertone that they self-valuate at xyz and you have to match it on-paper. It's the guy-equivalent of those tinder posts frustrated women post: "I'm done with games. To court me, you must have a house, a car, take me on dates, etc." Not to mention, getting an explic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Men and women of PPD, what are your red flags?I'd definitely chime in though if someone wanted to start that thread lol. Only problem I'd see is that you have to limit the prompt to be brisk and without elaboration, or else people will probably try to write paragraphs justifying each of their red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 03:08 AM |
| 7 | The Future of dating for men is only gonna get much worse.To make matters worse, he doesn’t even have to common decency to be an asshole. In this day and age of everything ending up in recording, people are successful despite their lesser traits and behaviors, not because of them. Your example of the good looking, tall, athletic guy would find success by being sweet and self-confident, no assholery required. If he’s got a brain as well, that guy can leverage his life advantages to great success. Were he to stumble, he will get more leniency because peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 01:09 PM |
| 3 | Debate show?I also don't get face debates if your goal is further understanding of ideas. Adding live face-to-face speakers introduce all sorts of unnecessary variables into the mix: attractiveness, age, tone of voice, cadence, pitch, etc. These variables have nothing to do with the content of the actual message, they only try to influence you based on the messenger. I suppose if the goal is info-tainment, then so be it. But give me written words, so I can actually take my time to chew and reflect on the co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 05:45 AM |
| 2 | PPD has become the gender wars arena, especially when it comes to the sexual history of women.I recently told my g/f about this sub and had to clarify ‘btw, I do not believe in like 90% of the extremism here’ just so I don’t scare her lol. That being said, I do think it’s right to acknowledge the grievances of those who don’t enjoy unconventional success. Lord knows how many different ways I’ve failed in life. Sometimes it’s nice to vent. But ultimately, if you still wanna play the game, you gotta get back to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 11:26 PM |
| 9 | What do you think is the reason for promiscuity being a better predictor of infidelity in men than in women?To be sympathetic, I think there is a lot to be said for men and women who struggle to have relationships. It won’t entirely transform their lives, but the ability to experience a relationship at all goes a long way towards ‘normalizing’ them. I’ve met more than one incel-type guys who drop edgy takes and grandiose declarations about the state of gender relations. Lo-and-behold, once they were in a relationship, they relax and shift their tone, become more reasonable, etc. Relationships by thems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 06:03 PM |
| 7 | Women of PPD, what differentiates men who are successful with women?This was actually something my now-g/f did that really set her apart from the dozen or so dates I've been on earlier this year. I got us the initial dinner and suggested we roam to grab a beverage. She doesn't drink but insisted on paying the beer tab so it's more egalitarian. Didn't take me long to plan date 2. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 12:00 AM |
| 16 | Women of PPD, what differentiates men who are successful with women?5’7” is also not that short. That man is still taller than like 80% of women. Good social vibes and a decent physique will get them over the hump with a many women. As you said, confidence and a big personality will make you take up more ‘space’ in the mind’s eye. Heck, I’m 5’4” and on a couple of particularly confident/suave nights back in my 20s, I’ve ended up in bed with women who were like 5’8” - 5’10”. My current g/f is taller than me by an inch or two. OLD apps is of course a totally diffe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 11:13 PM |
| 1 | What is the worst thing about being a woman?Having come from academia myself, I will say this is more an individual professor thing than a gender thing. I had great mentors who encouraged me to branch out to other labs, run my own projects, and if I happen to utilize them, award them authorship on a merit-basis (sometimes, I’d put them as third author if their only real contribution is to review a submission draft). There were of course lab leads like yours who claim all projects as going through them and give themselves automatic first-a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Why are post-breakup conversations more illuminating than conversations that were had in the relationship?You can be as honest as you need to be…which opens the door to greater intimacy. By god that’s rebound hookup with the steel chair! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 02:12 AM |
| 3 | Social proof seems much more important to women than innate/natural attractionWhich is also why you want to be your authentic best self so you attract your tribe. Sooner or later the fantasy will fade, but those who likes authentic you are much more likely to stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 01:32 PM |
| 8 | Do men appreciate male beauty/attractiveness more than women?Girl: gives blowjob Me: I wonder if she likes me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 05:33 PM |
| 5 | Do men appreciate male beauty/attractiveness more than women?Gotta hit ‘em with the disclaimer first. As a guy, “I’m straight, but nice bulge homie.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Taller woman, shorter man dynamic is underrated and should be normalizedAn 18-day-old account calling January a newbie on r/ppd lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Taller woman, shorter man dynamic is underrated and should be normalizedNot normalized in my corner of the States either, though I think it’s more ‘tolerated’ or accepted than 10 years ago. I (5’4”) went out with a 5’9” woman a couple of years ago and it broke the brains of the table next to us I think (two women who were in partying attire). Current lady I’m seeing is also slightly taller than me, though only an inch to two. No nasty comments yet, just confused looks after the initial ‘oh probably just two friends hanging out’ transitioning to ‘oh, they’re clearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 06:28 PM |
| 2 | This Subreddit Moving Forward: Incel/Race content, flairs, moderators, rules and moreThe more I write the more I get confused honestly between fetishization, racism, and stereotypes. While related, these concepts are not quite the same. Stereotypes are traits or behaviors you associate with a certain group. Race is an easy example, but you can have stereotypes about gender, age, weight, etc. You can even have stereotypes based on profession, so not something inherent to any group of people, but a job they choose. For example, surgeons are generally regarded as arrogant, and mari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 05:36 PM |
| 2 | What percentage of people within your dating age range do you find attractive enough to sleep with? What percentage do you find attractive enough to have a relationship with?I don’t think it’s that unusual (speaking as a guy). As you age and the hormones cool a bit, you can “talk yourself into” or “develop an attraction” toward someone who you don’t initially find physically attractive. It’s different than saying they’re not attractive - they’re just sort of neutral at first, but their non-physical characteristics shine through. At 33 and in decent shape (not peak but I can still do rec league soccer/football), my libido is still strong and there’s still plenty of ‘… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/22 03:40 PM |
| 11 | Women who met your boyfriends on social media or dating apps, what made him different from the rest?I think it would shock people how a sizable percentage of the dating pool does not want to date the ambitious type. This upcoming generation doesn’t care as much about money, because most of the typical life markers are no longer affordable (house, kids, etc.). When it seems out-of-reach, it stops mattering as a motivator. A little ambition above baseline so you’re not a basement-dweller is nice. But anyone I’ve gone on dates with below 30 have emphasized they care much more about experiences. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Male VS Female Fitness Mega-ThreadI think all humans look more attractive at a healthy weight, BMI, and body fat percentage. Big if true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:44 PM |
| 2 | What do successful and educated men (lawyers, doctors, men in finance) look for in a partnerNepotism will usually mean bad leadership, yes. That said, leadership is a tough gig - there’s only a narrow margin where you’re considered competent, but a near infinite number of ways to screw up. Even if you promote your best technical-skilled person, they might end up as a bad leader due to lack of soft skills. Many orgs are full of people who were great at their previous role and got promoted as a way of retaining/rewarding them. However, they usually flounder as a leader since the skills n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:03 PM |
| 5 | What do successful and educated men (lawyers, doctors, men in finance) look for in a partnerUpper middle class. Definition is probably somewhat loose, but I think general consensus would be like $200k+ income households in most places in the US (probably closer to $250-300k+ for big cities like LA, NYC, etc.). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:31 AM |
| 5 | What do successful and educated men (lawyers, doctors, men in finance) look for in a partnerNepotism (and its more innocuous cousin, networking) has been a mainstay way of the world forever now. A lot of people fall into the competence trap at work in my experience: they believe that hard work gets noticed and that by itself will help elevate them. In truth, hard work does get you noticed, but you have to do something more with that attention before the spotlight shifts. I see this in a lot of young people from lower SES communities landing their first jobs in corporate. They made it t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 09:04 PM |
| 26 | What do successful and educated men (lawyers, doctors, men in finance) look for in a partnerI think you hit the point with the first sentence. Many guys here don’t put value into the social matrices and circles. Looks and personality are great for you personally, but financial/social contributions and a healthy dose of brain-power go a long way. You don’t maintain wealth by having a one-income households at the MC/UMC level. Unless your partner has a passion career that you want to support despite the financial impact, you are generally looking for a partner that makes a similar range … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 04:50 PM |
| 21 | Why is it a bad deal?1) Why are we all here? 2) First date (or zero dates) for Chad vs. Waiting for Billy. 3) Who has it harder: Civil War. 4) OLD apps statistics, aka Boomers don't understand modern dating. 5) Standards: imperial or metric? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 04:21 AM |
| 5 | Do men in general envy women?As a scientist myself, I’d hate my ideas to be ignored because of my sex. I do not envy women in the workplace for having to deal with this. I’ve also been part of the academic world (now corporate), and same. This also applies for push-back as well. A man pushing back on something is received more matter-of-factly than a woman (who is more likely to be perceived as being difficult). Perhaps it’s because people expect men to be more combative in general (which is in itself also a perception issu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:51 PM |
| 4 | Do men in general envy women?Yup. On the whole, I’d rather be a dude, even if being a woman with my physical stature is probably easier for dating/interpersonal reasons (I’m short, lean, and been told I’m rather cute). However, there are many advantages for being a guy if you’ve got some level of ambition. Society rewards ambitious men much more enthusiastically than ambitious women in my opinion. Anyways, living life on ‘easy mode’ isn’t always the blessing people think it is. You don’t learn as quickly when things are eas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 05:38 PM |
| 5 | Why do you, romantic men want romance in lifeIn short, romance is fun. There’s something joyful about spending relationship time with someone who enjoys your presence and exploring that space together. You can have a proxy of that in hookups or FWBs situations, but it’s not quite the same. Unless I’m misunderstanding your question, and romance is defined something differently. I’m probably too pragmatic a person to be ‘principally romantic’ - I still relish the experience however. Some of the highest highs is before/after being physically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:53 PM |
| 23 | How hard is dating for a 30 year old woman?I'm a 33-year-old guy. My single women friends in the same age-range find dates just fine (and most are happily paired up). My ex-roommate was a 35-year-old woman who had like a dozen dates in the 9 months we lived together. She's like you: educated and accomplished, and looking for the real deal long-term. Last I heard, she was going steady with her guy for 3ish months now. I think it more depends in part on you and in part on your local environment. I live in a city, so there's a huge pool of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 03:26 AM |
| 2 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesHe talks like a hyperactive 10 year old and that is quite appealing. I don't really get this type of energy. It's the same reason I am mildly put off by Gary V. and his content (irrespective of whether I find their message useful). Kudos to them for finding their target audience I suppose. Some people like the deliberate and calm preachers - others want the fire and brimstone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 12:31 AM |
| 9 | Men are only forgiving of a woman's past if she's hot (or hotter than him)33 here. As a guy, I would assume everyone has a history at this age. I’m sure there’s a number in my head that I would flag as “okay, that’s kinda high” but if you say like 10, that sounds about right by 30. You take it with the person or don’t - can’t exactly change the past. Only matters if you think it will impact your collective future. That said, here I will take a purple stance and say it matters less than the red side purists claim, but also more than the blue side denies it as being irr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/22 10:59 PM |
| 12 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?Source in a comment I made earlier on this sub about this very topic: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/vns0rx/if_the_theory_of_8020_rule_is_true_which_it_seems/ie9e14m/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 01:11 AM |
| 9 | What Is The Biggest Risk Factor That Someone Will Still Be A Virgin By 30? (Not By Choice)Leave the house 10/10 would recommend. Get any hobbies Slight disagree, but yes hobbies are important. Kudos if they are group activities since you’ll get to meet people and practice social skills. Be pleasant. 10/10 would recommend. Lifting things is not required. I would say excessive lifting is not required. The difference between skinny me and toned me was night and day. But toned me and peak me wasn’t all that different. Don’t have to have a car. I find this the case for city life, but in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 09:59 PM |
| 3 | what exactly are the standards for an average man ?It sounds high to my eye test, but supposedly the average for a 1-bedroom is $1700 per month nationally for the US. This is probably dragged up a lot by big cities. I live in Chicago myself and that number is within range, if high (you’re living in the more lively part of town). Closer to prime downtown locations and the price starts to increase even more. My current place is $1400/month, and even that I was scoffing at. At $35k/year, so closer to $28k probably after taxes, $1700/month is like 2… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 06:49 AM |
| 1 | The True Importance of Men’s Height: a discussion/debateStatistically, if you randomly assign men and women pairings, 90% of them would have a taller man due to average height differences anyways. So it’s partly just math. Add in a bit of cultural desirability, and I’m guessing maybe 5% of actual couples would have a taller woman. So 1 in 20: rare enough you’ll notice, but not so rare you’ll never see it. By culture here, I’m not talking about a preference for height so much as a preference for fitting in. You don’t get weird looks from people who se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 04:46 AM |
| 13 | Why do men choose certain women over others as far as to pursue relationships with?Interesting point. Men seem to be believe there’s a friend to GF pathway, women a FWB to GF pathway. While both do happen on occasion, they are the exceptions that make the rule. Don’t be the contractor that sticks around in perpetuity and puts up with crappy conditions and low pay thinking you’ll be offered a full-time role soon(tm). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 04:04 PM |
| 3 | The True Importance of Men’s Height: a discussion/debateNope. I’ve always been skinny/lean (5’4”, 130 lbs) and only gotten intimate with people of similar build. #igotstandardsbro lololol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 07:52 PM |
| 19 | The True Importance of Men’s Height: a discussion/debateI do think people underestimate how much it matters if you’re below the cutoff. But once you’re a couple inches taller than her, other factors start to really matter. Height makes it easier to get noticed, but if you can still get noticed in other ways, you can make things work. For example, a man can have a personality ‘footprint’ for example that is bigger than he is. In all cases above where I ended up with a taller woman (outside of OLD dates), we met at a party or outing and I happened to b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 03:58 PM |
| 83 | The True Importance of Men’s Height: a discussion/debateAs a short dude (5'4"), I can tell you I've been rejected for being short more times than I can count. Sometimes explicit and verbal (though it was always polite), sometimes through body language and cooling off the conversation where it was flirty/playful before. That said, I have successfully dated tall women in the 5'8"-5'10" range (as in gone to bed with, and not just a coffee outing). There was also one who was around 5'8" and semi-obsessed with me (she was engaged, so it was mostly a silly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 09:19 AM |
| 3 | CMV The sexual double standard (Guys getting girls = studs/Girls getting guys = sluts) is as natural as women who can't grow beards wanting men with beardsI was thinking more of pets we can relate with (most people I know don’t actually have any extended experiences with monkeys). I’ve heard from multiple owners that their cats has pooped on a bed before to express their displeasure, however. Cats by nature are super clean, so you know it’s intentional. Devious little felines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 12:58 AM |
| 4 | CMV The sexual double standard (Guys getting girls = studs/Girls getting guys = sluts) is as natural as women who can't grow beards wanting men with beardsBe a cat instead. Poop on the bad human’s bed to establish dominance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 12:45 AM |
| 7 | Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously?Frog and scorpion story condensed: Scorpion needs to cross the river but can’t swim. Asks frog to help ferry it across the river. Frog says ‘bro, your sting will paralyze me and I’ll drown’. Scorpion says ‘bro, I’ll be on your back, so if you drown I’ll drown too. I’m not an idiot.’ Frog thinks, yeah, that makes sense, agrees to ferry scorpion across river. Half way across, frog is stung by the scorpion. ‘Bro, wtf, now we’ll both drown’. ‘Sorry bro, it’s just in my nature.’ Supposed moral of sto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 06:02 PM |
| 7 | Why do women push back so hard on the notion that dating may be easier for them?I travel between Chicago and my hometown in Michigan fairly often, and the experience is quite jarring. Chicago: men and women tend to be average to fit around their late 20s and 30s still. Not everyone is a model, but most are textbook human shaped. Many are not married yet, no children. The ones who are out of shape are usually partnered and have been for a while, so standards have relaxed. Michigan town: it’s rare for anyone to be single by their late 20s/30s unless they’re coming off a marri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing?I do find this bizarre as well. For all the talk of teamwork in marriages, we seem hyper-individualized in this culture (I’m careful not to speak of other places since I don’t truly know universal this is). So many aspects of a marriage involves compromising and doing things you might not like in the moment, but adds to the overall health of the marriage. A lot of people want the perks of a marriage without the work involved. And just like how most of us need a job, a lot of the daily work we do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 06:21 PM |
| 0 | No men shown up on singles mixerNo way. Next you’re going to tell me psychology is bs (unless it’s a theory that support my beliefs of course). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 02:13 AM |
| 2 | If the theory of 80/20 rule is true (which it seems to show on online dating) what explains the mismatch in attractiveness partnership irl?Many doesn't mean most or all (I'm guessing maybe 1 in 500-1000 have tried doing OF). It's also not scalable - if there's a glut of people doing OF, they'll dilute their incomes as they compete for the limited $ floating around. Finally, the vast majority take home $150 per month doing OF. You're thinking of like the .01% who can actually make a living doing OF while most just get enough for a week or two of groceries. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/22 12:58 AM |
| 3 | If you expect men to pay on the first date, then you don't get to complain about the wage gap.Not OP, and maybe it’s because I live in the city, but healthy/fit people in their low-mid 30s don’t look all that different than people in their late 20s. This goes for both men and women. I’d say between 25-35 you’d see a noticeable but slow gradation of aging as long as you take care of yourself. Here’s literally me right now working late hours at 33. Virtually nobody pegs me as being 33. I used to get like 23-25, though letting my facial hair out a little pushes the needle to 28ish. I’m not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/22 11:41 PM |
| 17 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)Hey man, I read all of that. I’m thrilled for your life changes. It takes a lot of discipline to achieved what you did and undo a lifetime of habits. That discipline will serve you well in other areas of life. People only see your highlight reels, and not all the practice work you put in behind-the-scenes. You are rightfully humbled by your support network, but you’ve invested a ton of hard work too, and you should rightfully feel pride for that. Keep at it and I hope you obtain all the joys fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:34 PM |
| 6 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)Flattering clothing goes a long way too. I’ve cultivated mass since Covid started, so what little semblances of abs I have are long gone. However, I have shirts that are form-flattering at the chest while roomier at the waist. As long as you have a little bit of chest muscle, you’ll look toned from afar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:27 PM |
| 11 | How were you treated differently when you got fit? (men and women)I can’t even tell what the fantasy is lol. An attractive dude getting checked out? People receptive to his flirting?…Having abs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 05:21 PM |
| 5 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Yeah. References are a weird system. I understand why they exist, though in my experience by the time your referrals are called, you should pretty much have the job on lock or be near that point. It does screen out people who are clueless or callous of their relationships with others (though it also punishes the ones who struggle with networking. I have mixed feelings on that). A common example is someone who burned their bridges with an old job but provided that boss as a reference. That’s a bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:25 AM |
| 7 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?A) Date people, not stores. Don’t let capitalism win. B) The optimal play is to leverage nepotism/insider referrals and skip the recruiting process altogether. C) Claim election is rigged. Write a CMV on r/purplepilldebate. ???. Profit(less). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 02:02 AM |
| 5 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Oh no. Is this my next random vanity python project? xD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/22 12:54 AM |
| 35 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Sounds analogous to job hunting. Employers are asking for a resume, two personal references to call, and a customized cover letter explaining why you’re so passionate to join their team (and not because you’re all about not being homeless instead). Then you sit in a queue where 95% of the candidates never make it past the recruiter’s first screen. From there, you might get an interview, probably a few rounds actually. Then you have to hope you’re still the best option among the 3-5 others that a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:13 PM |
| 3 | What percent of women do you believe are willing to financially support their husbands permanently? and also how many of them are beautiful womenBrady lives the ultimate fantasy life. It’s like if you ask a 10-year-old boy to write out his perfect life, and then someone got to live it. “When I grow up, I’m gonna make millions of dollars (check), become the best at whatever I do (check), be tall, handsome, and cool (check), have lots of fun hanging out with my best friend and we’ll work together (I.e. Gronk. Also check), oh and I’ll be married to a supermodel (check), and we’ll be rich and have lots of money to do whatever we want (check)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Dating Market for the 40 and up crowd?I’m low 30s, had a date with a 22 year old a few months back. It was painful. Like pulling teeth getting conversation to flow. She was in that not sure what to do with my life yet stage (generic business degree), hobbies are mostly consuming entertainment, etc. Was she hot? Heck yeah. But mentally, she was less interesting than the PowerPoint decks the interns put me through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:23 PM |
| 3 | Dating Market for the 40 and up crowd?I’ve been age-fished before in my low 30s. She said she was 28 in her profile, date two rolls around, we started talking about if this was possibly serious and she slipped in ‘oh btw, I’m actually 34’ like that doesn’t change things at all lol. Thing is, had she just been honest from the get-go I would have been fine that she was 34. I was going on dates with a 39 year old just a month before that - she’s well within my age band. But between that and a couple compatibility things, we agreed it p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:03 PM |
| 3 | What's the alternative to "be yourself"?I’ve heard be your best self, which I think is for optimal happiness. But be your best marketable self is best for finding success and in PPD contexts, relationships. The two are close usually (your best self mostly fontina stuff that would also make you marketable), but there are usually some key enough differences. Your best self will probably contain some skills/traits that are noble and beneficial, but the supply for it far outpaces demand. It’s like being the 101st lawyer in a town that nee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 06:03 PM |
| 7 | No matter the "pill" you take as a man, in the long run it is no match for the nit-picky nature of womenLots of young religious couples marry so they can have sex, and then divorce when they realize they have basically nothing more in common beyond the lust. I don’t recall the exact number, but people who marry in their late 20s or 30s have only like half or a third of the average divorce rate. So roughly 70-80% lifetime success, which is pretty good considering most of us live to 70+ these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 04:43 PM |
| 6 | Opt for options or Settle for scarcity?Not OP, but I mean, yeah? For a lot of people, once you meet the minimum floor, anything above that becomes diminishing returns and other factors start to yield more ROI. Aren’t us men the same? You want a woman to be with who you find attractive, but you’d probably rather she be a 6 in attractiveness and 10 in personality than an 8 in attractiveness and a 3 in personality. Exceptions exist of course, but it’s not a stretch most men would prefer a sweet and caring partner who’s modestly cute ove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 12:34 AM |
| 7 | What are some popular opinions commonly held by people of your own gender here that you not share?I get where you’re coming from, but this is an appeal to have a double standard exception carved out to ourselves. Most people who wind up cheating do not set out to do so or appeared to have been willing to do so. If you ask them before the incident or affair, they would also say they’re offended at the lack of trust. They would also say anyone close to them can vouch for their character. I agree with you that if it’s default, it will take away from any complications of hurt feelings. We are al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 05:18 PM |
| 73 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?I think we as a society have a blinder on as to how casually cruel unattractive people are treated sometimes. I agree with you it’s not okay, but I think we’d both be surprised how ‘normal’ it actually is (by normal, I assume you mean commonplace). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 04:21 PM |
| 4 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?Ironically, I agree with you. I’m all for egalitarianism as the ideal, but pragmatically speaking, you don’t get ahead personally by waiting for reality to become your ideal. I think our modern conception of equality is too simplistic and that’s where a lot of the grievances come from. It’s not ‘equal’ in that men and women are both pursuers - it’s equal in that both are allowed to play pursuer. The roles (active pursuer vs. screener) still exist and will likely continue to exist. I think of it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 04:14 PM |
| 16 | Q4M: How do women fail to treat you “as people” or “as human” in dating?Sundresses are modest? I must be in the wrong sundress climate lol. Your second point is a bit more nuanced though imo. There were people I dated who definitely sized me up and decided to “take it slower” to signal that they were ‘more serious’ and worth the investment. In one particular case, I know of her typical tendencies since we are part of a larger social circle, and slow would not be an accurate descriptor. I personally found it amusing, called it out, and we bedded off to better things,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/22 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Do men over 30 really get higher in sexual market value?There's also the situation where you have a youthful face (like myself and many other Asian men), where aging actually helps you look more adult-like. Yes, some of my hair is graying and the lines are receding just a tad, but my facial hair is more well-defined now and I look 25 in my early-30s instead of 15 at 25. Getting dates has actually gotten easier for me now than 5 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Men care about n-count:The MoratoriumIt’s not that they don’t have an advisory role, just culturally it weighs less. Asian cultures have a strong element of elder ‘worship’ - the young are supposed to defer to elders whenever sensible. White American culture is much more equitable - your elders can offer advice, but you have more leeway to push back and veto. You’re more treated as an equal, albeit junior, partner. In more traditional cultures, you’re more treated as an intern or apprentice. Now, if you’re high SES and your million… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/22 08:41 PM |
| 2 | Men care about n-count:The MoratoriumCould also be an SES and possibly even racial thing. Lower SES communities tend to be more public about their activities but also more public about their insults (people have fewer qualms about being hoes/insulting them). Higher SES communities are more discreet about both (people maintain a proper public reputation even if they live promiscuous lives, and people don’t comment on it out of courtesy to keep up the facade). As far as race goes, some cultures are more conservative. I’m East Asian a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/22 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Correlation between intelligence/education and meeting women?I think the disconnect is that people hear this and assume more = better. In reality, it’s ‘if more than average’ = good. Intellect is not a gradient for attractiveness, it’s a binary pass/fail. In crude speak, she’s less interested if some guy is a moron, neutral if he’s average, but anything above that is just general interest. Your 140 IQ person is no different than 110, all else being equal. The extra intellect could lead one to do things that help them stand out (aka status), which in turn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Correlation between intelligence/education and meeting women?The multiple intelligences model is pretty unsupported by data and pretty much dismissed in research circles. Same for learning styles, the Myer-Briggs personality types, etc. They’re not quite at the level of astrology, but also not much higher in terms of empirical support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 05:52 PM |
| 17 | Study: Sexually Unsuccessful Men Retaliate By Endorsing Anti-Egalitarian Attitudes and Becoming Fiscally ConservativeInteresting. As a liberal dude myself, fairly young (low-30s), I think about this from time to time. Contemporary left politics doesn’t really offer much to a single guy in terms of incentives other than to take one for the team (doubly so if he is white and/or rich). Even policies which could in theory benefit these single men often don’t reach them in equal ways. Heck, it took a long time for the idea of having men as allies to a cause to even take mainstream, which has always baffled me (when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 10:13 PM |
| 11 | thoughts on Johnny Depp trialMy general interpretation of the Depp-Heard saga is that society is quite primed to sniff out domestic violence when it’s man-on-woman, but far less committal when it’s woman-on-man. There’s no #metoo equivalent for male victims of abuse for instance. Most shelters for domestic violence don’t cater to men. The closing remarks of Depp’s side highlighted this: they played a sound recording of Heard saying to Depp “tell them John. Tell them that you’re a victim of abuse. See how many people believe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 03:00 AM |
| 21 | thoughts on Johnny Depp trialHow do women emotionally abuse men? Same as a man would. Gaslighting, talking down, wearing at their confidence, cultivate co-dependency, trigger learned helplessness, etc. It starts small and escalates as the abuser establishes a new normal, and once you've acclimated you just think 'oh, yeah I guess this isn't that bad.' Then it escalates again until the abused is a shell of their former self. But since their normal is so warped, it's tough to convince them in the moment that what they're expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Do you ever get insecure when artificial women are considered beautiful?At least with my actual thesis, I know only me and the three advisors will ever read them lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/22 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Contrasting 'Invisible woman syndrome' with the basic lived experience of manyThat depends on your goal. If your goal is to cultivate skills that will draw attention from women, then that involves skills that women find interesting: comedy, music, etc. And not in terms of consuming, but producing your own content. You are not your own target audience: you have to offer what the ‘customers’ want, not what you want to provide. If your goal is to cultivate skills that brings you value (and personal contentment is a value), then you can focus on skills that make you more well… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/22 05:39 PM |
| 1 | The 80/20 doesn’t mean only 20% of men are having sex and relationships…it means 20% are having the interactions and relationships THEY WANT with womenRegarding causality, I would distinguish between the principle vs. the distribution: I can observe the distribution and not know the causes. I can see for example that three flavors of ice cream make up 80% of sales without knowing why that is the case. Heck, if we drop the ‘fruit’ category, vanilla and chocolate alone makes up over half. Knowing the causal factor would help us predict shifts in trend should a different set of flavors dominate the chart, but we can still observe the skew in acti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 07:14 PM |
| 5 | The 80/20 doesn’t mean only 20% of men are having sex and relationships…it means 20% are having the interactions and relationships THEY WANT with womenIt’s a combination of things that got conflated together. There’s the OKC figures, there’s also the 80/20 ‘rule’ that’s a corporate work joke, and there’s the Pareto distribution, which is an observed pattern that occurs in some context. I think people just kind of blend them in over time and now it’s become sort of an ‘assumed truth.’ The OKC figure I think everyone knows, so I won’t need to retread here. The 80/20 rule about work is that in an office setting, 20% of the people do about 80% of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 05:53 PM |
| 11 | Is obesity a primary factor in dissatisfaction with the “economics” of dating?Exercise makes a difference for fitness, but calories is the ultimate decider for non-muscle weight. You literally can’t get fat as an adult consuming only 1200 calories a day (average basal metabolic rate for adult is like 1600-2000). I think most people are just bad at knowing how many calories they’re adding to their diet vs. what they think they ‘should’ eat (aka 3 meals a day). Especially if snacks are involved - things like pop and chips can easily add 500 calories in one sitting and most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/22 06:40 PM |
| 3 | Our current culture undervalues "intellectual exchange" and I would argue friendships/relationships would last not only 100x longer, but everyone's social cues would improve dramaticallyI think most people should attend grad school for just one year to gain perspective. It’s not like undergrad where you get the rich kids, the legacy kids, the sports scholarships, etc., where you can stand out intellectually. Grad cohorts are mostly (though not always of course) the intellectual types, and depending on the program entry requirements, are the cream of the crop. They’re usually hard-working too, so you can’t just pretend if you magically find motivation to outwork them, you’ll sur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 06:02 PM |
| 5 | Women don't have the right to judge men because they can't find a partnerOf course it is - that’s why I placed the qualifier at the end along with the relevant demographics that I think would most likely impact marriage age. If we’re going with data, then it looks like late 20s/early 30s is the median age of first marriage in recent years , which lines up to roughly to my general experience (which is still likely not representative of say, the Bible Belt south). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/22 03:58 PM |
| 18 | Women don't have the right to judge men because they can't find a partner24 is super young in the modern economy if you pursue graduate education. You would be in the depth or at most barely graduated by then. Only about half of my grad school class are married today, and almost none of them before 26 (and the one that did has been dating the same guy for 5 years since before grad school started). Of course, this is quite likely different due to setting. I’m in a large Midwest city, and my network is largely corporate professionals. The expectation for marriage is cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/22 02:41 PM |
| 168 | Men "riding the pussy carousel"? (my mum seeing men in their 20s that way)Your mom is seeing the men who can pull this off, yes. They tend to have a lot of eyeballs on them. She’s not seeing the ones who can’t even land a date or have a g/f. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 12:52 AM |
| 9 | I think it's high time the men in this subreddit learn to accept reality.SMV is about how attractive you are for sexual encounters. RMV is how attractive you are for relationships. You can be high in both, high in one but not the other, or low in both (or average, but for the sake of examples, it’s easier to do extremes). High SMV, High RMV: physically attractive movie star who is also behind-the-scenes humble, charitable, intelligent, and family-oriented. Stays out of trouble, rescues dogs, etc. So you’d bed them and also want to commit to them long-term. High SMV, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 12:45 AM |
| 7 | The idea that it is suddenly common for women to have body counts in the 20+ range by the time they settle down is greatly exaggerated if not altogether a myth, most women have less than 10 sexual partners in their lifetime.Reading yours and others’ comments, I think I swoosh two thoughts too close together without enough clarification. The six-figure bit is linked to the stereotypical ladder climbing corporate dude, which is a common trope of what an ‘ambitious’ person signifies. The amount itself is actually almost irrelevant, since in 20 years, six-figures will mean like $50k now relative to inflation anyways. It’s just a stand-in for the guys who wanna make lots of money by moving on up in the corporate world, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 11:31 PM |
| 2 | The women that “Bad boys” pick up are also low quality like he is ;That last pro-tip is honestly where I think a lot of the issue stems from. The ‘bad boys’ who don’t care about their future spends money as fast as it comes. They’re not putting 20% into their Roth or whatever and eating rice and beans so they can have a nest egg at 65. They’re fun because they pay to experience things with you that conventional ‘nice guys’ don’t. The casual willingness to spend also makes them appear decisive and assertive, whereas the future-minded guy looks hesitant because h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 06:07 PM |
| 33 | The idea that it is suddenly common for women to have body counts in the 20+ range by the time they settle down is greatly exaggerated if not altogether a myth, most women have less than 10 sexual partners in their lifetime.For what it’s worth, I think you’re pointing at a niche of the dating ecosystem that doesn’t get nearly as much attention here as the classic 80/20 conversations. A guy who’s not worried about tomorrow spends most of his resources today, which means he lives much more extravagantly than he should be relative to his salary. He’s not seeking to build anything long-term, so unless you have an accidental pregnancy or something, you know you can walk away guilt-free. Those things combined means you c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 05:53 PM |
| 43 | The idea that it is suddenly common for women to have body counts in the 20+ range by the time they settle down is greatly exaggerated if not altogether a myth, most women have less than 10 sexual partners in their lifetime.Loser is a bit strong imo. I have a couple of these guys in my greater social circle. They’re ‘losers’ only in the sense that they’re not corporate ladder climbing and chasing six-figures. They’re attractive because they spend their time not worrying much about building a future. So they’re fun to be with because they give you all the perks of a relationship with none of the work, but you also know there’s no future to be had there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 05:41 PM |
| 7 | How effective is joining clubs, volunteering ext for finding women ?A patient friend who is social and willing to serve as a step-by-step mentor (the same way you learn any other skill in a classroom like math). You do roleplay, simulated conversations, etc. Practice goes a long way. Professional comedians when interviewed will tell you they have a repertoire of jokes they go to while practicing their new ones to calibrate their audiences. So is the joke not funny, or is the audience just not engaged? They also tell you how many people they had to bore while the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 03:05 PM |
| 15 | How effective is joining clubs, volunteering ext for finding women ?Honestly, working a retail job where I was always talking to customers was probably one of the best developmental things for me. I get the sense a lot of people on this sub don’t practice their social skills nearly as often as they should be. Being socially fluid has a lot of fundamentals. Even if you’re skilled at knowing what to say, there’s knowing how to radiate a welcoming presence, how to be comfortable as being in someone else’s attention (or multiple someone else’s), etc. Those get rusty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/22 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Will Smith is a great example of how weak men are today, and why men (especially weak men) should not be getting marriedSort of like all that I learned about Nancy Reagan against my will 3ish months ago lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 02:03 PM |
| 2 | If you are a man who doesn’t have long term goals or passionate about something, you can’t expect women to be attracted to you.Not OP, but the standard bar is whatever you’re surrounded by. If you’re knowledgeable enough to be the lead or at least have a notable viewpoint within your sphere, then yeah. But if you’re in Washington DC, then the bar is a lot higher since the baseline knowledge is also a lot higher. It’s like you’re in a rural Vietnamese village and knows how American football works and can even throw the football accurately for 10 yards. That would be something most 5th graders in the US can probably do wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 05:33 PM |
| 0 | Women can't value self confidence and expect men to be honest about their feelingsIf you provide affordable housing and healthcare, then I for one welcome our new overladies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 05:04 PM |
| 3 | What sports or hobbies that a potential relationship partner might have attract you the most?There’s kind of a quadrant for hobbies and how interesting they might be: interactivity and proficiency. Low interactivity, low proficiency: watching movies, listening to music, etc. Basically, you’re a passive consumer of creative works with no intention to creat yourself. Low interactivity, high proficiency: owning a serious collection. You are knowledgeable about the goods, how to spot a deal, etc. The collection itself is inert however for the most part. A collection is a representation of y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you have any positive platonic female friendships? Does it affect how you view women? What do you learn from your female friends? What do you like about those friendships vs male friendships?My women friends have also helped me as well, so I get where you’re coming from. Men and the way we were raised can often discount the impact and value of emotions, so we can become blind to how much it matters. In a good way, I think having friends of both genders help everyone be less caricature and stereotypical and ultimately more well-rounded as a human being. A lot of the negativity on this sub sounds like it comes from limited interactions with someone on the opposite sex where the person… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you have any positive platonic female friendships? Does it affect how you view women? What do you learn from your female friends? What do you like about those friendships vs male friendships?I don’t think it’s inherently good or bad - you just have to make it clear up front what you are looking for. If you do just want to vent, just say that up front. Men vent to each other all the time - we want to be heard too. “Guys, do you mind? I just wanna get something off my chest” is usually a signal that there’s no solutioning afterwards (at least in my group of guy friends). We then share similar instances of frustration if relevant (these days, we talk about how work is FUBAR’ed a lot). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 02:37 PM |
| 0 | Q4Men: Do you have any positive platonic female friendships? Does it affect how you view women? What do you learn from your female friends? What do you like about those friendships vs male friendships?Yes, many. They come in various tiers (just like guy friends): 1) casual friends I’d see at parties but would not make much effort to hang out with solo (closer to acquaintance but a step up), 2) friends who I would hang out with solo but geographically distant, 3) friends who I see make time for periodically, 4) and friends who I exchange deep thoughts, life concerns, etc. The last two categories are much smaller but active, and several of my friends have moved over the years after grad school … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/22 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Why all men should be hitting the gym regardless of what some women “preferences” areOh I’m sure there’s a portion that reject and over-correct in the opposite direction, but by and large our environment growing up does influence our behaviors and what we find attractive. Our country is getting chunkier and the average is overweight now. I’m sure more people would regard slightly overweight as attractive (or at least neutral) now than that body type would have passed 30 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 09:04 PM |
| 2 | Why all men should be hitting the gym regardless of what some women “preferences” areA lot of people think you can override nature with nurture completely, and mostly that’s just not the case. If you grew up in a household where everyone was obese, it can nudge your willingness to see some level of excessive weight as still attractive. But it won’t ever convince you that a healthy weight person, all other things being equal, is less attractive than the same person but 50 lbs overweight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/22 07:27 PM |
| 5 | Have you ever had casual sex with someone who was "unattractive"?It's interesting being a short guy (5'4") in the dating world, I've spotted a pattern where I've successfully gone on dates with women who are distinctly shorter than me or women who are really tall (5'9"+), but rarely someone in the between zone (5'3"-5-8"). Perhaps it's because most men don't approach tall women as often so I find success through sheer audacity. Equally interesting is that despite not being physically more imposing than the tall women I've dated, I take on the big spoon/psycho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 07:38 AM |
| 39 | Do you think young men are becoming more or less sexist?There was a post here a couple weeks ago about this. The OP applied the Gini coefficient technique to men and women’s dating success in the apps. Gini is a measure of economic inequality. If men on the apps were a country, the lopsided rate of success between the top and bottom was more unequal than Apartheid South Africa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/22 07:56 PM |
| 6 | What evolutionary reasons would make a beautiful face more important than a strong body ?You can see this play out in North vs. South Korea, where there's a 5" average height difference in adult men. It's only been 70 years (so 2-3 generations) since the split. It's almost entirely driven by nutrition and living standards, and nothing to do with evolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 03:05 AM |
| 3 | What evolutionary reasons would make a beautiful face more important than a strong body ?Given America's obesity problem, my preferences have definitely tipped more towards a healthy body + average face vs. 'curvy' body + attractive face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 03:02 AM |
| 9 | "Treat men like garbage and they will love you and respect you"Only partial agree here. Asking for advice is only helpful if the advice can be applicable to you. If I was a low SES person making $15/hr, following the advice of a fellow born on third base with $2m head start to just “save 20% of every pay check” or buy for the long-term (which costs significantly more up front) is reasonable but unrealistic. This is like circa 2012 when Romney tried being relatable to the common folks by saying he and his wife had to sell stocks while they were in college to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 07:25 PM |
| 4 | Would women really reject men on the basis of being intimidated?Parks and Rec actually did a gag on this in one of their episodes. One of the characters made like 7 dating profiles or something like that, each one tailored to a specific niche, and his boss ended up swiping on him. In theory, it should work to get your foot-in-the-door. However, long-term the more discrepancy there is between your selected profile and you, the more problems will surface. It’d be the same if you bought grape jelly for your PB&J sandwich but when you opened it got apricot jam i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 07:33 PM |
| 6 | Would women really reject men on the basis of being intimidated?Oh yeah, I didn’t mean him specifically lol, just the sentiment in general. A lot of people think that spreading themselves thin to appeal across the widest base possible is the way to go. This contradicts a lot of what we learn from marketing research. Brand excitement and loyalty comes from maximizing your niche, which necessarily excludes some part of the base. A product (in this context, product being you in the dating world) that’s a 7 in everyone’s book will not be as appealing as being a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 07:01 PM |
| 5 | Would women really reject men on the basis of being intimidated?“Don’t half-ass two things, whole-ass one thing.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/22 06:33 PM |
| 3 | Women believing that men “command respect” proves that the average man’s experiences to them are invisibleComing from an Asian background, I know how this goes. The line is super thin between being respectful (not talking over someone) to being overshadowed. While you wait for them to finish, another colleague will have picked up a microsecond later and you lose your opportunity to bring up a point, because now you want to be respectful to the next person until they finish, etc. Sometimes, I have to be ‘rude’ in order to make it seem like I’m contributing, or else the timing for certain points being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/22 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI’ve seen some measured takes on PPD of course - the recent posts dissecting Hijge data was quite excellent. I don’t demand perfection, just a desire to be honest. It does annoy me on occasion seeing people cite numbers and studies out of context but I think that happens when you have all sorts of people weighing in. Far as the joke goes, I’m certain intellect is valuable lol, so don’t get me wrong. It’s more of a enhancer though, not a base condition in and of itself - the metaphorical cherry o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWere you from a philosophy/research/academic background? I recognize a lot of these thinking pattern/way of framing questions. PPD would certainly benefit from an infusion of more organized questions like this. Though I guess as the old joke goes, if intellect by itself was sexy, a lot more nerds would have g/fs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 04:30 AM |
| 4 | The most feminist thing you can do is to actually give women enough agency to be losers. It's an easy RP win, if they show some self restraint and not alienate most people with their weirdo talking points.I don’t think that makes most people losers though, just average. A janitor who is stellar at their job but otherwise unremarkable is not a loser, just average. Society degrades quickly if we have nobody performing janitor tasks around. Part of wisdom generally then (and wisdom in dating specifically) is to not expect or demand exceptional quantities that you yourself may not be able to bring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 06:06 PM |
| 3 | Twenty-six percent of Americans ages 18 and up didn't have sex once over the past 12 months,Lmao. Condolences for your circumstance, but that was a real chuckle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 07:05 PM |
| 4 | Why is it wrong for friends to develop feelings overtime ? [discussion]As an older dude who’s been there and done that, I’m sympathetic to your plight. And you’re right, it’s not simple from where you’re viewing it. Heed this from a guy who wants to see you be happy in the long-run: you need to develop a healthier dynamic with this individual. You have a lot of hope pinned onto this person that somehow they will one day see all these positive things and in some made chemical rush fall for you. It won’t happen that way, I’m sorry to say it. It just won’t. When they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/22 02:36 AM |
| 6 | Women low-key bully each other into hypergamySpeaking as a guy with some decently close women friends, you can be the voice of reason, but only if you can move past any romantic intentions with her (completely. 100%. Not even an ambiguous well maybe if things were to be different). Women actually appreciate a male point of view a lot more than you think: they know girls gas up each other and generally offer more sympathy than solutions. For all the trash many women talk of men when they’re frustrated, they recognize that men tend to have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 06:34 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSome things are universal I would imagine, but many things have changed, no? It's nature, nurture, and the combination of both. Nature is pre-wired preferences like for height, beauty, symmetry, etc. Nurture is socialization (court through known channels/arranged relationships, then organic meetups at bars, then predominantly dating apps as the world went into pandemic mode and only just coming out now). Then you get combined with both, where socialized patterns are amplified through pre-wired p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/22 01:24 AM |
| 1 | What is something someone said or told you that make you understand the perspective of the opposite sex better?To add: 1) additional production cost is minimal. You only have to add a handful of dialogue to convert most video to the step-genre. 2) appeals for its target audience, and mostly overlooked for those who aren’t into the theme. The videos are largely indistinguishable from regular ones, save for the context. As far as kinks go, it’s extremely easy to ignore - just skip the setup and it’s basically like any other video. It’s not like a feet video or something where only the target audience would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 10:15 PM |
| – | What part of the opposite gender's sexuality made you feel disgust?Not to be a doomsayer, but if you read up stories about infidelity, 90% of the time the person who cheated and destroyed the trust of years-long relationship will admit it was driven by their lack of self-worth. It’s something to address proactively, as the other OP said, it feels nice to be the object of their adoration and attachment, but they’ll acclimate to your validation and in time all the insecurities and self-confidence issues will rear its head again. Then, you won’t be the one she’s s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 05:45 PM |
| 4 | Blue pill advise does not help men whatsoeverI would say finding something you feel strongly about is definitely important. And if it has social impact, even better. One thing I think our culture gets wrong is the emphasis on finding a job you feel passionate about. Because truly, maybe 10% of jobs can be that. I know very few people, perhaps none, who could be a passionate janitor. Yet, we would quickly see how dumpy our world looks without janitors playing their part. For those who have a job they’re passionate about, that’s awesome! For… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/22 11:53 PM |
| 4 | what's your advice for a below-average male who has tried self-improvement but found little success?I’m sympathetic for my fellow men who struggle. Hell, I’m doing better now in my 30s than my 20s but I know how tough it gets. Sometimes, it feels like you have to try 3x harder just to be the same as someone else’s normal. It’s really easy to dismiss the plights of the frustrated, but I try to remember that nobody would choose that life and mentality if they have attainable alternatives. Nobody would rather be awkward than sociable/friendly for example. Trouble is many of the successful give ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 06:05 PM |
| 3 | what's your advice for a below-average male who has tried self-improvement but found little success?I personally look for ways to achieve small meaningful wins. If you imagine something like social skills to be, well…a skill, then you have to practice to keep it sharp. I have plenty of hours a day where I can spend them solo gaming. And to be honest, it’s usually a good activity for time invested since I spent large stretches of my life solo and know what to generally expect. But it’s like cultivating the skill to be ‘productive’ alone - I don’t need practice since I’ve had so much lifetime ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 05:43 PM |
| 12 | what's your advice for a below-average male who has tried self-improvement but found little success?Lack of social proactivity is definitely an issue I see for many frustrated men (and women, though they tend to be more social). Lots of men can go for long periods of time without social activity, probably by killing time with self-entertainment like gaming or TV and porn. Being social requires a certain amount of lubrication and practice. Jokes that land on TV between characters or word blocks on a forum do not always work when spoken aloud in real life. So when they do get social, they come o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/22 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Why do I want to improve myself?Self-improvement lets you add more 'you' to your life. Broadly speaking, that means having greater agency and a more direct say in the course your life takes, both in the number of options you will have available and the quality of those options you'd get to choose from. Self-improvement is like adding more tools to your toolbox. You can solve a lot of problems with a hammer, but sometimes you need a pair of scissors, occasionally some sandpaper, and sometimes duct tape. But if all you have is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/21 10:16 AM |
| 13 | People really do have a "type" when it comes to romantic attraction. According to a study, 50% of people’s preferences for faces is unique to them, and who we find attractive is most strongly influenced by our life experiences.As a short guy (5’4”), I can tell you it gets better in your 30s as long as you take care of yourself. The trick is to get there without losing hope, turning cynical, or having made enough bad life decisions that your prospect would be terrible regardless of height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/21 01:49 AM |
| 11 | TRP and FDS is less about self improvement and knowing your worth and more about getting back and every man or every woman in existenceI had a long heart to-heart with an whirlwind-ex about this. We ultimately didn’t work out, but we’re still casual friends. I think a lot of people are socialized and do take to heart the notion of being a good person. And they then try to live up to being a good person even when it’s at their expense. I know people on these sites tend to lean to the more analytical and computational side, so perhaps some numerical examples work best. The thing is that like all other behaviors, the reward does n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/21 12:35 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Are open relationships fair for men? My views on the matter.Of the three confirmed instances I’m aware of in my larger circle, two were spearheaded by the woman and one by the man in the relationship. None of the three couples survived a year past their relationship opening. In all three cases, the women ended up with more opportunities. In only one was the guy able to keep up (they were swapping with another couple for most of their remaining time together basically). The one led by the guy initially led to him having a threesome, then the two women rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/21 08:55 PM |
| 3 | What is so bad about Female Dating Strategy's teachings?Not OP, but I would be curious. I’m not a piller, would consider myself fairly agnostic to either TRP or FDS. I’m in the camp that there’s wisdom to be found in most ideologies as long as you avoid the extremism trap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/21 11:53 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All] Have you ever been really surprised at someone’s dating success(or lack thereof)?I have a soft theory on this. The conventional part is that most guys don’t take good pictures because they don’t prep for them, don’t rehearse angles, filters, etc. and don’t generally have much experience with looking fresh. So all else being equal, we expect most guys to have lower quality/less attractive pictures in general. The other part is that a big appeal to guys is not so much how they look (which does matter) but also how they carry themselves. This is far harder to capture in a stati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 07:24 PM |
| 8 | How would you sum up the message of Red Pill in one sentence?Some celebrities are genuinely nice to their fans, some pay lip service to their fans, and some ask for subscriptions on OnlyFans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/21 07:08 PM |
| 2 | What the "average man is" versus what women think the average man is...From what I gathered, it’s more of a ‘be your best self’ and ‘be authentic to yourself’. So if you’re not into sports at all for example, don’t pretend to love it when cultivating self-improvement in order to draw in the sports-loving people. You should instead develop passion for things you enjoy, cultivate skills that make you feel fulfilled, learn to take care of your health, etc. Now, what you are passionate about may not be of interest to many people you want to date. But it is incredibly u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 07:27 PM |
| 13 | What the "average man is" versus what women think the average man is...I think you highlighted an important point though - there’s a lot of social comparison effect, be it online or in person. If you have a friend who’s dating someone super successful, and assuming you consider yourself relatively equal to your friend, it definitely alters your perception of who you should match with in the dating pool. Women seem to experience this social pressure to match their friends a lot more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 07:13 PM |
| 13 | What the "average man is" versus what women think the average man is...I would say 5’8” is a manageable height. You’re still taller than most women in the dating pool, and can usually compensate for it with a stellar presence. You’ll probably have women thinking and maybe even vocalizing they usually go for taller guys, but you’ll get your chances. 5’6” and lower and it gets increasingly difficult. 5’4” (where I’m at) and you’ll have people visibly lose interest for you once you both stand up. I will say it’s somewhat easier as you age (women do seem to loosen thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/21 06:49 PM |
| 10 | Does "hookup culture" benefit men more?$30k is ~$15/hr. Even now, there’s ample opposition to that being the new federal minimum wage. In smaller towns and rural areas, you can probably have a decent (if minimalistic) life on $30k. In the city, you’re basically in perpetual poverty and putting all of your big expenses on your three near-maxed out credit cards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 07:12 PM |
| 25 | One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeedingYeah, problem isn’t shooting your shot. It’s that many guys don’t know how to gracefully accept a no and move on. They fail to read the room and try to negotiate, which is exactly what earns you a reputation as ‘that guy.’ I was like this when I was younger too. Learning to just simply take a ‘no’ or ‘I’m not interested’ at face-value was a huge step forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 07:06 AM |
| 15 | Most women don't deserve prince charming. Most women (like most men) are average and deserve average men. That western women waste their youth throwing themselves at high value men they don't deserve only to be pumped & dumped is why they end up bitter, alone or "settling".And yet, I am drawn back to this place on the daily. Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/21 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Will women really make a guy waits months for sex in order to “develop an emotional connection”?From my cursory understanding: Prostitution is strictly a sexual exchange for money. There’s no pretense otherwise. Escorting is the vast majority of the time also sex for money, but usually involves other interactions such as dinner dates of companionship to events. It’s more of a time exchange for money, but sex is usually an implied and expected part of that time exchange. It’s considered somewhat classier than outright prostitution, which has a lot of negative connotation in the US and proba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 09:40 PM |
| 3 | What is the perfect ratio of males to females?For context, 3.6m babies born in US last year. Gender ratio is 1.05:1 male-to-female, or 51.2 male babies to 48.8 female babies. So each year, there are roughly 1.85m male babies and 1.75m female babies born in the US, an excess of about 100k males to females. While the birth rate has dropped year-over-year, the gender ratio appears mostly flat since the 70s. If we suppose that men typically date younger by about 2 years on average, then there will be 3 cohorts of excess (same age, +1 older, +2 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 02:30 PM |
| 2 | Imagine getting up everyday to work on a computer from 9-5 or doing hard labor trade work just to get outearned by girls showing naked pictures of themselvesI have no dog in this fight, but the chart is literally the 20/80 rule people bring up around here. The top 20% of earners out-earns the rest. Heck, top 5% probably based on how skewed that chart is. If anything, this should be used as evidence to the doubters that the 20/80 rule exists for human behavior, the same way that the normal distribution exists for most human traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Absolute dealbreakers for datingTo each their own I guess lol. It’s like I wouldn’t want to watch the Bachelor or the Kardashians, but I wouldn’t auto screen out someone who does unless it was personhood-defining for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Absolute dealbreakers for datingI think perhaps OP is trying to get at “makes sports a notable part of his identity.” I’m by most account what people would call a nerd in core interests (Marvel, LotR, Harry Potter, some mainstream anime, etc.), but I also played sports, watch my weekly NFL game, and gone to have beers with my friend group (so I guess it’s more social than the sport itself). It’s a part of my identity, but it would be strange to be screened out for it since I wouldn’t involve someone in it unless they asked to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 08:17 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All] How big is the gap of SMV between Average men and Ugly men?If weight is your biggest determinant, then presumably yes. It doesn’t by itself make you attractive however. In recruitment/hiring terms, you aren’t automatically screened out by the AI filter before the review even starts - it doesn’t mean however that you’ll actually get a call for an interview. You can be above average but still be the worst of the best, the small fish in a big pond, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Toxic only please!Exactly. Therapy works when both sides are committed to getting the client better. If the person going in just wants to feel better, then yeah, it’s useless beyond that. But if you follow through with your ‘homework,’ be honest with the therapist (problem is, most people lie to look better, and even if the therapist knows they’re lying, they have to wait for the client to drop the act before any progress can be made anyways), and actually want to work on something (expend effort at self-improvem… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/08/21 04:06 AM |
| 40 | Carol takes out her frustrations on a total stranger after getting pumped and dumped.It’s a defense mechanism for people who have low empathy and emotional regulation. If they can’t lash out at their intended target, they use proxies as outlets to feel better, without much regard for the innocent bystander being attacked. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 21/08/21 05:11 PM |
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