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cope
/r/PussyPassDenied30/06/19 11:22 PM
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For sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 12:46 AM
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doing pretty much anything will be more effective 10 x 0 is still 0. Save for betabuxxing (Or somehow getting status), if you're ugly your SMV potential is a big, fat, ZEROOOOO.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:47 PM
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I don't mind masculine gender roles at all, I naturally gravitate towards them. Masculinity has nothing to do with dating success when you're ugly. I was a boxer (amateur) so the most masculine I ever met were in my local boxing gym, and none of them were particularly drowning in pussy. Plenty had girlfriends, some were single and just as unsuccessful as me, but literally none were Chads.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:41 PM
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Scientific research is bullshit now, huh? This is why Bloops are mocked for being delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:36 PM
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Nobody in their right brain argues that hotter men don’t fuck more Boopers do, because the blue pill is delluded by its nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:05 PM
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stop being a weirdo loser. Read: "Just be attractive bro!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:05 PM
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Glad we agree that's what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:04 PM
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they can more easily lock down high value guys into LTRs. Or just be pumped and dumped by them. Just because they're having less casual sex doesn't mean Chad isn't still pumping and dumping them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 11:03 PM
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/r/BlackPillScience
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:55 PM
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I posted a subreddit literally full of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 10:31 PM
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"scrap of evidence" lol. If the blackpill upsets you, dispute it with your own counter-evidence. If not, then you're only proving my point when the only issues you can find with the blackpill is "I don't like it, it makes me feel bad, that means that it's not real :( :( :("
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 03:17 PM
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This isn't myth nor is it "new". /r/BlackPillScience has been a thing for a fair bit now, and the blackpill in general is supposed to be stuff mostly backed by evidence. Unlike the bluepill and the redpill, the blackpill bases most of its theories off of what can actually be confirmed rather than just blindly barking at others "IM RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG" without anything to show for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 12:45 PM
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It's just stupid blue pill shit where he literally just regurgitates and repeats what any rando on Reddit has already said on the subject. "lol have you tried just trying? And even if you do try, you should be happy that you've been rejected, wimen don't owe you anything inkwell!" It's just inane. You're not changing anyone's mind when inc* ls use data and research to help back up what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 04:57 AM
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It's not just TRPers you have a problem with cuckoldry, nearly every man has an issue with the idea of it. For me, I personally think cuckoldry is only becoming a big fetish as a consequence of blue pill thought. When you're being taught constantly growing up if you're not a very attractive young boy/man that "Awww, don't worry, keep working and eventually girls will be into you!" you've already been taught the idea that you should be okay with women ignoring you to fuck other men until you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 04:54 AM
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Because literal studies as well as common fucking sense show "Looks don't matter" is a mindset only held if you're literally blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:12 AM
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The blackpill -- that looks primarily matters, and exclusively matters in the absence of status and money (So basically exclusively matters if you're 90% of young guys).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/19 01:10 AM
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I always read these posts that say "Be yourself and you'll get the right person eventually" as "Eventually you'll be able to be betabuxx like the little cuck you are". I don't agree with TRP advice in the first place, but Blue pill advice is even more retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 09:23 PM
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Men are saying they want to be chased by hotties, not the average girl. This is bullshit lol. Sexually successful men are saying they want to be chased by hotties, most men who aren't regularly getting any would be 200% okay with being chased by an average chick
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:42 PM
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Because they are insecure and controlling. Bluepill women in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 11:39 PM
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Nearly all women wouldn't fuck the vast majority of men in their age group and not fat, which is why I made that distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 10:47 PM
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There's A LOT of evidence to suggest that women love anti-social behavior in men, there's not much evidence at all to suggest that men in general wanna be furries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:03 PM
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A lot more men rape babies than women write love letters to serial killers. They do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:02 PM
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"Nooooo! Not evidence! Please anything buy evidence" Lol feel free to reject reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:23 AM
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Women just want validation from fucking Chad, if they can get him to stay it's a bonus, but that's not their primary desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 01:14 AM
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It proves that blue pillers are wrong, which isn't anything new to anyone with a working brain, given we already have mountains and mountains of evidence that blue pill is delusion incarnated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:53 AM
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Not on its own, but a bunch of other evidence that suggests women like anti-social (Not asocial) behavior, does prove AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:49 AM
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For women, I feel that many do use it as a means to attract and keep a relationship. For older women, sure. For younger women? Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:39 AM
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Women want sex for emotional reasons (love, committment) Yeah, uh, no. I'd say more men want love and true commitment than women (There was a study that showed that is definitely the case for college men than for college women).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:38 AM
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Yeah, and men wouldn’t enjoy fucking most women either. Lol who told you that lie? Men enjoy fucking the vast majority of women in their age group, women only put out for guys in the top 20% of looks in their age group. Hell, and any man will fuck nearly ANY woman who is not fat. Not that simple if you're a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:34 AM
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AWALT. Just because all women aren't exactly like that, doesn't mean all women don't harbor similar desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:25 AM
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A woman's SMV and her looks are not at all the same, I don't know why you make the assumption that when people rate a female's looks, they also believe that's her SMV. A 5/10 woman is a 5/10 woman, her SMV doesn't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:19 AM
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I think it's harmful to try and convince them that the type of way they'll "get more attractive" is a good thing. They're not telling young men they'll start looking better, they're telling men that women are willing to settle down because they've sucked, fucked, and swallowed enough cock to be able to settle with a guy who comes with enough $$$. I don't think that should be an ideal young men should be raised to strive for. Working overtime to support some post-wall woman who otherwise wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:17 AM
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Feminism often promotes sluttiness. I don't know why they even bother, they'd probably have more success convincing stupid men that being slut is a good thing than they do convincing men that sleeping with 500 men isn't slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 12:10 AM
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It's a racially exclusive trait that suggests being more well off, at least stereotypically, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:10 AM
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What's crazy is that shes definitely fucked more than 24 guys. Rule of thumb; roasties always under report their slay count, men always over report.
/r/Chadfish21/06/19 05:08 AM
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I view women on the whole as being very hypocritical and being very cognitive dissonant, which is true for all humans, but especially of women. Never treat any interaction with any woman with any degree of sincerity, whereas at least some guys are worth being sincere with, but women are by default ready to use your sincerity to get the leg up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 05:02 AM
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while men are always great and noble and honorable. No one says this, but women treat interpersonal relationships way more Machiavelli than most men would.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:57 AM
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So what you're saying is that you were above average, you just don't wanna admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:52 AM
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Imagine being so assblasted that you have to reply with this anytime you see someone say something non-bluepilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:36 AM
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All as if I was supposed to look forward to and be thankful for this. This is very accurate and is how I essentially got blackpilled. Older women will tell young, unpopular men this all the time, and seem to have no self-awareness whatsoever at how undesirable of an outcome this is. Why would a guy want to be happy about being used for money later in life after women have already been pumped and dumped by Chad? Makes no sense, but somehow women can't see how silly of a goal that would be and thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:24 AM
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Vast majority of guys will fuck the one on the right with zero hesitation, especially the type of guy who almost fetisizes blonde hair, blue eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:10 AM
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The "find a hobby" advice is always poor if you're into traditionally masculine hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:07 AM
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Over 30 is in his prime? I think either way he'll be finding women looking for ticket meals, that's basically all women looking for a relationship over 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:05 AM
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Wasn't a single word comment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:03 AM
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Aw, come on, I thought I could get away with it in this instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:57 AM
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Looks precede that though, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:53 AM
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Lol. PPD women in a nutshell. "We know the research says X, but I personally feel it's actually Y, so that trumps what your research says."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:49 AM
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This is cope, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 03:46 AM
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No. You have to be good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/19 05:17 PM
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The fact that it's 6-8 in a self-reported study is really telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 03:14 PM
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No, I think you were on the money. That's exactly how they think, and until they hit 25, they're not gonna think differently. Don't know why you're walking it back when you had it correct the first time. they can smell your insecurity I hope you're being ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 01:00 AM
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Why is it that I can find way more studies that go against the blue pill then? Most of society is faaaaar from blackpilled, so you would think you would have blue pillers citing studies left and right if these social science studies were just made to back up the researchers intuitive beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 11:56 PM
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ITT you're going to get a lot of people who can't face the facts because they're not convenient for the narrative their pill wishes to speak. Blackpillers are about the only ones who will put most of their faith in studies, statistics, and therefore science.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 11:53 PM
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If that were the case then guys would just have to be relatively in-shape to get laid. But that's not true at all. The fitness levels of the population don't factor in to the rising celibacy rates (Celibacy rates that are rising almost exclusively in men), there are a litany of other problems all stemming from hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 11:47 PM
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PUAs regularly get reported to the police don't they? Regardless, the premise that it's a numbers game is false in the first place. On the incels forum there was one guy who chronicled every one of his approaches until he eventually got to 1000, and the most he would get were phone numbers every once in awhile that were either fake or never led to anything. Men give up because factually the odds are way too stacked against them. Worst yet, every time you do try and get rejected you're only losin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 12:35 PM
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I'd just exist if I were a straight female in her early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:32 AM
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Yes, and Chad just so happens to ALWAYS look really good, he sculpted a model-tier face by just putting years of effort into getting women. Will doing all that you said help you if you're above a certain looks level? Sure. Will all that stuff every make you "Chad" for anyone not genetically gifted? Fuck no.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:30 AM
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starry eyed naive sub 25yo girls looking to media and group think to form their tastes and preferences. So basically to sub 25yo short men, "Suck it up until you're 25 and then maybe, just maybe, they might consider you worthy of paying for a date or two."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 02:05 AM
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I find it funny how for the second stat they won't include women. Afraid how bad it'll look if less than 5% of women are virgins ages 18-30 compared to the 27% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:21 PM
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Exactly. You have to be very good looking to be loved by a woman who isnt a close relative, but that's a different kind of love anyways. It's just unfortunately the way shit works.
/r/MGTOW211/02/19 06:41 PM
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To be loved, you have to love yourself first. Loving yourself, however, will not lead you to being loved.
/r/MGTOW211/02/19 06:40 PM
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It's not delusional if it's factual. You're mad because what I say is correct about women. I'm also not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:01 AM
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Why would anyone want to betabuxx? That completely misses the point of a relationship, might as well hire an escort instead. A below average carousel rider still guns for Chad and will at worst settle for an above average guy. You're right, an obese mom with crippling low self-esteem would fuck an average guy, not anyone below that though, despite being a 2/10 herself. Which is what makes guys below average or unapologetically ugly turn to the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 02:33 PM
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A very good looking male, a 8/10+
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:24 PM
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Doesn't work if you're ethnic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 12:45 PM
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This is the most blackpilled thread i've seen on PPD. Bravo, for once you guys haven't been total idiots denying easily observable reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 12:44 PM
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Boyo has been around a lot longer than when the incel community has picked it up, I heard my Irish friend say it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 12:43 PM
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No, you mock us because you can't even fathom reality of the SMP as an ugly man. You're mocked as losers because you act and think like losers before you've ever even tried to win. The Black Pill: I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas. You prove me right immediately by making such a big assumption about every black piller right off the bat, an assumption that is already incorrect to most black pillers. I KNOW what i've experienced and what i've tried, and thus I know your claim about the B…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 12:21 AM
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Hot people look good even with garbage pics
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 03:33 PM
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Tinder only works if you look good* An ugly person can't suddenly make himself look like a 10 when a great angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 03:03 PM
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Ah, yes, the CDC stats. Does it measure relationship success, frequency, and quality of sex? I mean, literally most incels complain about wanting to be desired and having successful sexual relationships all around. That's why we aren't contempt with "just fuck an escort" idea. If you can get unpaid sex once, you can get it again. I don't think an incel can be a non-virgin unless it's with an escort. The blackpill is primarily about looks, and below a certain looks threshold you have a 0% chance …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 12:06 PM
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I struggle to refer to those guys as incels, all of them end up bragging about having sex and being in a relationship. You're right though, they do it for the validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 04:00 AM
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We aren't the norm, but we certainly aren't one in a million people. There is certainly a double digit percentage of the population who is incel. And most probably don't realize it and are in denial. If you definition of incel is "Not Chad" then maybe, but not even 10% of men past like 25 are virgins, let alone truly ugly. You know Sluthate, Lookism, and PUAHate? And even misc (the section of body building forums)? They are considered the "original" red pilled sections. TIL. Well, that's what ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 03:55 AM
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Literally ALL of them look average to below average, not even close to BlackOpsCel's level of subhumanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/18 01:21 AM
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I think you're bullshitting or are face blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 11:30 PM
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You're kidding, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 10:50 PM
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BlackOpsCel is considered the peak example of this in the incel community (Though he has the advantage of right height and race) https://i.imgur.com/5rNhP1l.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 10:36 PM
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Sorting by top of all time in that sub reveals that literally all the top 25 posts are meme posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 10:35 PM
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Judging from the selfies that various incels post at r/Incelselfies, most of them are good looking and some of them are even Chads or Chadlites. Never heard of that sub, I recognize none of the names as active members in the incel community, and the first handful of posts on its front page right now are literal meme posts. Most actual incels don't bother taking and uploading photos of themselves, that carries the risk of being doxxed by IncelTears, Kiwifarms, or Lolcows who are always attempting…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 10:33 PM
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I mean if you were to start spouting a bunch of canned black pill rhetoric people would get annoyed by that - that’s IS woe-is-me-ing a lot of the time. If an ugly permavirgin is asking for advice they're inevitablity going to say something vaguely resembling "woe-is-me", the only place that shouldn't be allowed is here ofc. You can't ask for advice here at all, this isn't the place for that. I think this hypothetical man who literally tries everything as much as he possibly can, from looks to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:56 PM
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/r/braincels is the result of anyone and everyone being allowed to post there. Your grandma could take a picture, post it there, and call herself an incel if she liked. Incels.is is better about this, granted it still allows non-incels so long as they're black pilled. /r/braincels calls itself more of a place to discuss incel culture rather than being an incel sub, because that would get it banned. I'm imagining grotesquely overweight or significant facial deformities. Simply having "pronounced …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:48 PM
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I have seen it though. If someone were to say, post an advice post and they didn't act like your typical incel/black piller, I do not believe bloops would just mock them for no reason. So in other words they have to be a virgin without saying all of the things a permavirgin who has thought about the SMP for even half a second would say. Like, before I even discovered the Black Pill or Inceldom, the shit I would say on /r/ForeverAlone would get me mocked by blue pillers. It sounds like they would…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:33 PM
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It's not even just incels - there's a lot of rhetoric (it wasn't very frequent when I first started being active on PPD but has grown a lot) about how hard normal guys "struggle" to get any sexual/romantic attention, how if they have an option it's like a godsend because they barely have any options, etc. It all falls under the bucket of believing somehow that average, normal dudes are barely scraping by in the dating world getting next to nothing. This is clearly false. I agree, that's clearly …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 09:02 PM
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Black Pillers are mostly kids, autists, body dysmorphia sufferers or victims of bullying with severe social anxiety and deep self-hate who are still stuck in highschool mentality. Notice how every single option you give there is "Black pillers are mentally ill" but you know how ridiculous it sounds to reduce an opposing side to such a one-sided and unfair viewpoint. Why isn't it possible that a Black Piller is genuinely very ugly and/or medically deformed rather than having "Body Dysmorphia". Bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:52 PM
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They think The Red Pill is right about women, sex, and relationships. No, Red Pillers don't go to the lengths of researching how women truly view and behave towards the bottom 1-5% of men, that's where the black pill deviates, it focuses on the truly ugliest men of society, not just the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:39 PM
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Black pillers have a completely different mindset from Blue and Red pillers, and from the perspective of a black piller, Blue and Red pills seem far more closer to eachother than the Black pill is to either of them. Black pillers recognize the fact that if you're ugly enough there will be next to no women willing to date or have sex with you. There is no saving yourself if you're below a certain looks threshold unless you have money or status, but if you're a fairly young person (younger than 30…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:37 PM
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I think we’d say it’s not the norm to be incels or close to it. That's the point, incels don't claim that incels are the norm, but they don't wish to be ignored simply for being a minority of society. I also think blue pillers would be more likely to feel sorry for those types but not necessarily agree it’s “unfair” as in super unjust that sex and attraction isn’t evenly distributed. No they don't. Blue Pillers love to mock and belittle incels, you'll see plenty of that all the time. Blue piller…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/18 08:27 PM
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Dunno, you sound a little butthurt to me bro, calm down. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There is no hypocrisy, you still haven't said anything substantial, just a bunch of snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 08:57 PM
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Tit for tat, you accused me of shit I didn't do first, don't start acting all butthurt because I did the same right back
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 07:49 PM
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Atlas didn't ask me a question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 07:46 PM
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I listed a generic Blue pill and generic Red pill line, you didn't give me anything to listen to, you just snarked at me, twice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 06:55 PM
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Black pillers are the most likely to listen if you actually present facts since our entire belief revolves around provable scientific facts about dating. But instead you whine on and on about "b-b-but NAWALT!" or "b-b-but hold frame bro!" instead of presenting actual research or studies that back up what you say, and when we do present strong evidence to back up our world view, you throw a temper tantrum and go "Wow, so you won't just completely accept everything I pull out of my asss, I guess y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 11:24 AM
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We listen to facts, unfortunately you bloopers have a hard time offering up any facts and cant rebutt any of ours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 10:57 AM
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So what's your point? You want us to believe your "lived experiences" when it comes to the SMP? But what about our lived experiences, are they just invalid because you or other women say "Well i'm not like the women you describe"? I'll believe what someone will say is true in their personal experience -- that's empathy, but when they try and extrapolate on that to mean that their personal experience is how the SMP as a whole works then obviously i'll object with facts and research. To use your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:04 AM
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Who says reality never involves emotion in any way? When you start an argument online and make a bogus claim that can be disproven factually your emotions don't take precedent. It's like a flat earther or anti-vaxxer making insane claims and then falling back on "Well I feel this way and there's nothing you can say to change my mind!" as they cross their arms and pout.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 09:10 PM
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I don't get your point. Are you complaining about TRP and Incel's emphasis on being rational in their argumentation? Like, that you can't make a totally bogus claim based on feels without being called out on it? Because otherwise I don't get how you put TRP, incels, and neckbeards in the same category here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 08:59 PM
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At that point just pump and dump tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 08:05 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 04:42 PM
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Creepiness comes from being unattractive, so you know what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 12:36 PM
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What am I making up? You're trying to assert you're right cuz you're old and wise, and i'm rebutting that. You do you, no one asked you to spit your deluded worldview at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 02:08 AM
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Simply being old and telling people things they don't listen to doesn't make what you're saying "wise" or "correct". You're telling me what any 20 something Redditor would as well, because unlike what you think, you're not thinking some creative thought process unique to you and only you. Your assertion that an ugly man would have it easier than an ugly woman in dating is incorrect, and I can cite multiple studies and research that would prove otherwise. But you wouldn't have any of that, becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 01:40 AM
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I could say that for you. Asserting that any lack of romantic success for a man is due to him being a "give up loser" isn't exactly straying hard from the hive mind y'know? Only I can easily prove my side of things, you're just repeating what others have told you and what you feel. You've yet to present anything that would show me wrong, wheras i've presented to you, at the very least, anecdotal data via Tinder experiments. So if you're going to call someone out for being a mindless sheep, i'd s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 01:05 AM
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No, even if we assume she's an introvert and i'm an extrovert, she still has a far easier time. An ugly male will get 0 matches, a good looking female will get hundreds. You're the only deluded soyboi who thinks women have an equally harder time in dating as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 12:45 AM
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P R O J E C T I O N Like a true NPC you take what I said about you, but repeat it back. I didn't say I had an easier life than her, but she has an easier time finding a fulfilling relationship than me, that's hard fact. No amount of virtue signalling changes that, baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 12:21 AM
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Like I said, you don't want that example because it's a clearly quantifiable way to tell what you're saying is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:20 PM
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Imagine having life so easy that all you need to do to have 100+ guys willing to marry you is eat a reasonable amount of food. Imagine having life so easy that you bitch that a female whose face is literally deformed from burns, has it easier than you in dating (When that's not the case, you just want to be a victim even when you're not).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:20 PM
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Yeah, her shape is so hard to attain, just don't eat. Imagine having life so easy that all you need to do to have 100+ guys willing to marry you is eat a reasonable amount of food. Imagine having life so easy that you bitch that a female whose face is literally deformed from burns, has it easier than you in dating (When that's not the case, you just want to be a victim even when you're not). Crazy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:09 PM
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Do you or do you not meet up with people from online dating in real life? Like I said, you don't want that example because it's a clearly quantifiable way to tell what you're saying is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 11:05 PM
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And i've seen photos of incels who called themselves ugly, and they are truly ugly unfortunately despite being some of the best, most sympathetic guys i've had the pleasure of interacting with online. Mind you, just because someone calls themselves an incel, it doesn't mean they actually are. I've seen numerous amounts of the type of "good looking"/"average looking" """incels""" you're talking about, and normally it doesn't take long for them to get banned from places like incels.is for bragging…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:15 PM
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She's a literal burn victim with a fucked up face lmao, how is that not ugly? Her male looksmatch roped a long time ago. Being fat is not an excuse, lose weight if it's a problem for you. Granted people have done experiments with fat women on Tinder too, and they've gotten tons of matches. We're talking about omega sized women no less. A fat guy would get negative matches anywhere. Imagine bitching about how hard dating as an ugly woman is but also complaining because it's too hard to not be fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:07 PM
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You think none of the men you'll catch on Tinder won't date? Lmao. You're delusional. How about you send me a pic of an ugly woman and i'll make an OKC or Match.com account for her? I don't know what you mean by "i'm talking about real life". That is real life, you just don't want me to use online dating as an example because it's an actual quantifiable way to prove your dumb shit wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 10:00 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/1pwU7Qx.png One such example. Ugly women can't lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:11 PM
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Give me an ugly woman and i'll make a Tinder account for them right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 09:04 PM
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Stop conflating "average looking" with "incel" then, because you're misunderstanding what incels are and what the black pill entails by doing that. Incels are ugly, that's the bottom line. The black pill is entirely about looks and how it affects dating, almost any incel would agree an average looking guy could get laid if he applied himself (Except for the sub8 memers, but they contribute nothing to discourse on anything). That's the real problem here, you seem to just assume incels look "Avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 08:14 PM
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Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 06:25 PM
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Nothing, because ugly women don't struggle in the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 05:25 PM
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Lol, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 05:22 PM
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I'd imagine Red Pillers would be slightly nicer to ugly men than feminists would, since feminists would immediately associate ugly men with creepy, misogyny and the like. Feminist types are always the first to assume ill of an ugly person, whereas a good looking person will get the benefit of the doubt for everything. Red pillers are less likely to get caught by a good looking person's halo effect as strongly (They'd still fall for it to some degree), though I don't think they'd be much more nic…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 05:21 PM
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AWALT. Ugly women are the same way. What? Did you think ugly women believe they should pair up with ugly guys? Fat chance of that happenin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 05:17 PM
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Huh, TIL. Now tell me about the dinosaurs!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:25 AM
1

You say, using "Lol" and "btw".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:21 AM
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Doesnt feel nice being mean to people. How do you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:14 AM
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Keep arguing with guys half your age, i'm sure it will let you regain your youth. One day.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:07 AM
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Spoken like a true NPC. If you act like an utter creep for your age, it totally doesn't mean your personality is bad, but if I even make a video game reference it means my personality is real toxic. Funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 04:02 AM
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Hey, pot calling the kettle black, you're the one getting into an argument with some random incel that's half your age, that's pretty creepy behavior all things considered. Maybe, just maybe our online activities aren't a good indicator for how we act IRL? I love the NPC meme because it's so apt for describing blue pillers and red pillers alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:54 AM
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I would never decide that for you NPC :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:36 AM
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Sorry, sweetie, but you don't get to decide where incels post.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 03:27 AM
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There is of course more data on this that spits in the face of your assertions; Physical Attractiveness is the Strongest Predictor of Initial Romantic Interest in Both Sexes; No Evidence Male Personality Plays Any Role for Women (Luo & Zhang, 2009) It is remarkable that the strongest predictor of initial attraction in a speed-dating context was partner’s physical attractiveness, and, most importantly, men and women showed an extremely similar pattern. This finding was highly consistent with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 11:33 PM
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You know damn well women won't say "yes" to this, even though most of them are lying out their asses lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 11:21 PM
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But it doesn't have to be and often isn't equal, because men are fortunate enough to be able to raise their smvs with frame and game. Lol, what a meme, "frame and game". Personality only matters once you're above a certain looks threshold, that's just a fact. a 1/10 isn't wooing chicks by "JuSt HoLdInG fRaMe BrAh!". This is something that can be observed everywhere. Except incels aren't observing this anywhere except for extreme outliers. A large thing incels always point out is how obvious the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 11:19 PM
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Sure it is. Just eat the appropriate amount of calories for the rest of your life and you'll have literally no problem whatsoever staying at a proper weight. It's really not complicated. It's all a matter of self-control, there's no specific diet you need, no workouts needed, no intricate understanding of the way the human body works, you literally just need to count calories. Now, if you want to do it in an even healthier way you can learn all the complicated shit, but just losing the fat is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 11:03 PM
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My observations are different, I mostly only see ugly people alone. I sure do wonder why :/ I'm sure it's because they just sense their personality is awful huh! What a joke, you NPCs always like to assert that women apparently just have a third sense when it comes to detecting who is naughty and who is nice, which is why Chad so easily manages to earn their trust before beating their face in when he gets angry, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 11:00 PM
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I think most incels would reject this accusation that they have any such "aura" or "air" about them, I know I don't. Again it seems like you're implying it's something you just sense, but the far more likely scenario is that the face gives it away.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 09:01 PM
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Yeah, you mean like their face, right? That's the only signal I think you really get, their ugliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:53 PM
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I dunno, i've never been fat, but i've been able to lose weight by just not eating 🤷 That's really all you need to do to lose weight. Easier said than done, I get that, but it really is as simple as calories in calories out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:52 PM
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The incel actively repels women This is a big assumption incels often mock, because it assumes incels are complete autists that carry around signs that they're maladjusted freaks that worship school shooters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:07 PM
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The problem for the vast majority of incels is that their problem isn't something easily fixable like being fat, many are already in shape. Face is the underlining problem, and you need money, lots of it, to fix face, since that's genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:05 PM
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Incels typically cannot do this with the world of women they'd like to date. And then you go on to completely be unable to empathize with the world of incels in the rest of your comment. So people with better understandings tell them that they're wrong about, say, looks being all important to those women -- but incels disregard that. Incels don't simply "disregard that". What they do is compare that assertion with what they've actually experienced as an ugly man, compare it to what they've seen …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 07:03 PM
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Explain it to me then professora.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 06:14 PM
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...Are you serious? 0 multiplied by anything is still 0, no wonder you don't have a black pill flair, you cant handle the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/18 12:15 PM
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Should be renamed "where are all the good Chads".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 09:58 PM
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Sure, NPCs are complicated, but they're also basic at the same time. If you could apply that complicated motion into your thinking of dating, sex, and relationships, you would, and you would see all the blue pill thinking only works if you buy into Just World Fallacy wholesale.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:12 PM
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Are you really?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:55 PM
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It's what bloops and twerps are -- thoughtless machines.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:15 PM
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The guy will struggle unless he makes so much money that the alimony he's gonna have to pay, the new house he's gonna have to buy doesn't make him a poor boi. The woman will easily find another partner within seconds, hell, she was probably already fucking another guy before the divorce happens. Such is female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:12 PM
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Whereas bloop NPCs operate opposite to science with stunning revelations such as "Looks don't matter" and "Chad is only good looking because of his personality!".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:46 PM
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Infinity x 0 is still 0. It's such a cop out to say "If you haven't gotten a date it's because you haven't approached enough women!!!", there's an incel over on incels.me who has chronicled every single one of his approached for the past year, and so far he's up to like 700+. Mass approaching doesn't work, it's a dumb meme from you PUA and TRP types. At best it might work if you're average, but for an ugly guy it would never work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:41 PM
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Go away NPC this is not for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:39 PM
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Except you blooper and twerp types are never able to debunk any of these scientific claims, you just say "My ideology can't exist in the same world as your science :(" and then you throw a hissy fit whilst refusing to put forward your own scientifically backed claims too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:18 PM
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You're right, because we're being rejected before we can date anyone. Ugly men can and do ask out women but they just get rejected. Of course, again, this goes back to what I said. You're just saying "I don't believe you cuz it shatters my fragile ideology ;( ;( ;("
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:17 PM
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Nope, try again. I can literally use a 55 year old grandma's pics on Tinder and get hundreds of matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:15 PM
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I have asked out many, but this isn't about me, otherwise that would break the woe-is-me rule. Lets stick to talking about lookism itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 12:12 PM
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See, you're already operating from an unreasonable position. You've come to your conclusion and are working your way back from it. "People who believe in lookism can't possibly have asked out girls because then that would make my world view incorrect :( :( :(" This is the fragile ideology of red pillers on display.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:41 AM
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It is though. Nothing the black pill says isn't backed by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:39 AM
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Probably not, since otherwise you would have noticed that little toddlers already show different strength levels of personality and a propensity for bullying or being bullied long before looks factor into anything. "Because personality starts to develop early, that means factors later on won't cause it to develop differently." ??? Listen to yourself speak and then come back to me. Hell just taking a walk in the park will show you that ugly men can be romantically successful but you will dogmatic…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:38 AM
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Science is not an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:22 AM
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Can't date if you only ever get rejected. But yes, those who believe in lookism do go ask women out, and get rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 03:22 AM
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There is no ideology, just pure facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:38 AM
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No, it's an issue with female mating behavior. Jammerly willingly choose a specific kind of male despite being aware she had millions of other options. There is no male response to hypergamy, it's women who make their own beds, they haven't lost options on the kind of men they can get, they just consistently choose the same kind of men to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:35 AM
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Oh right, i'm talking to a Twerp. Your looks and the way people treat you growing up affects your personality, there's a reason why Chad is never sexually unsuccessful and why he is VERY rarely ever not confident or not outgoing... Unless you want to tell me that good looking people are only good looking because of their personality, which I really wouldn't put past a TRPer or TBPer to say You haven't debunked shit though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:33 AM
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So there is no fairness or there is fairness? People who believe lookism is a thing aren't asking for a utopia, they're just asking for fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:31 AM
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Race isn't also apart of looks? Also guys who believe in lookism don't participate in the SMP? Lots of really weird statements you're making here, Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:30 AM
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Jammerly literally wanted those type of men though. She said pretty outright that she wouldn't date any guys who weren't completely alpha, it's not as though the only Black men available to her were hyper-violent thugs, she just never wanted the ones who weren't anything but hyper-masculine caricatures. That's the real problem with the black community in my eyes. Black incels have a problem finding a date thanks in large part to the standards they're held to. The kind of black men who isn't that…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:09 AM
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Incel here, violence hasn't worked so far tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 02:01 AM
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"Only for a woman though, if it's an insecure man then it is really shitty behavior" - Most people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:59 AM
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Because women can do anything and succeed in the SMP lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:58 AM
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I'm glad we all agree that civilization is not fair, now why do you Twerps and Bloops reject lookism and instead imply society is more "fair" than it actually is?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/18 01:58 AM
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Nah, it wouldn't matter. Women would find that endearing rather than annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:08 PM
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LMAO. Imagine thinking anything Chad does wouldn't be seen as attractive. Again, it's the trait, not the action that's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:54 PM
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Oh yeah, they most likely won't have those traits of "charming", "outgoing" and "confident", those aren't traits you generally develop growing up bullied and humiliated for being an ugly duckling. And if you do find one, the lack of positive feedback from confident outgoing personality usually beats those traits out of him at one point or another. There's a damn good reason why it's ugly guys who are far more likely to lack those traits. That said, even when you find the rare guy who has all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:31 PM
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Have lookism deniers never seen guys who act as confident as can be but still don't get any positive female attention whatsoever?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:06 PM
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Having a trait to be insecure about is unattractive to women, not the insecurity itself. Like if Chad was insecure about this perfect jawline, that wouldn't be unattractive, because having a perfect jawline is not a trait to be insecure about, they'd probably find that shit cute. Now, if an ugly guy were insecure about his recessed jawline, THEN it would be unattractive, because that is an unattractive trait. In other words; bad traits are bad, good traits are good. Your insecurity is irrelevant…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 09:03 PM
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Got you repeating after me like a line of code, it's too easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 10:18 PM
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The NPC now goes "no u" in response. Really disproving me, huh? Can't think a little out the box?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 09:46 PM
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Predictable canned NPC response.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 08:56 PM
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Elliot Rodger you lord and saviour was not even ugly he was just a sperg who didn't talk to women. Agreed, hence why he's not my lord or saviour, he's a meme who couldn't even do the thing he's known for properly. Most incels are not even that ugly but their posts make it clear where the real problem lies. "are not even that ugly" lol, okay. Most incels aren't even incel, either. The ones who are good looking also happen to not be virgins, who would have thought that incel theories would be vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 03:28 PM
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Except most incels can go outside and talk to humans no problem, it doesn't take being a complete autist to end up a virgin, it just takes being ugly. Also, I like how incels can make statements about female dating preferences based on strong scientific studies but be told they're "making generalizations", but plenty of you can't see the irony of then also making wide-reaching assumptions about incels based on nothing. NPCs are a trip.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 12:04 PM
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Whenever an incel asks for advice they get 50 pages worth of information and things to do before they can get laid, what part of that is "easy"? Meanwhile a woman just has to wait around before a guy eventually wants to date her. Or she can just find a lonely guy online she can easily date. The problem for women is that they only want the best of the best, so he has to look good, have a great job, have a very interesting personality, and be willing to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/18 01:06 AM
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Possibility? It's a guarantee.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:20 AM
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Man, if i'm overestimating my looks then I really don't want to know how I REALLY look.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 03:00 AM
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Not an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 10:48 PM
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Nope. Women can only love for looks, their love may be supplemented by other things, but it's looks first and foremost. Men fall in love with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 10:34 PM
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"Are they attracted to me and are female?" If yes, then i'm sold. If no, then i'll probably still be attracted to them anyways if they're not a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 01:29 AM
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Ugliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/18 02:38 AM
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You're saying them being a virgin wouldn't matter at all, i'm saying virginity alone wouldn't ever be a deal breaker... If you're good looking, but if you're not good looking and you miraculously manage to get a girl interested in you, virginity WILL be a deal breaker. Only Chad will be able to get away with saying he's a virgin, anyone else would be scrutinized heavily for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 06:10 PM
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You just showed an example where they would be making assumptions in the case of a 30 year old one. I agree that virginity alone wouldn't be enough for most women, if you look like Chad it doesn't matter if you're a virgin. But Chad isn't a virgin, generally ugly or average looking men will be virgins, and if a woman finds out you are one she won't wanna have sex with you even less than she already did.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 06:00 PM
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Maybe if he’s like 30 years old or something but then again that’s adding context. Oh, so they are making assumptions. They'll do it to anyone that's not a literal teenager, and even plenty of 18-19 year old women don't wanna date someone they know is a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 05:48 PM
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Of course it's not unattractive in a vacuum, it's the assumptions from women that come with virginity. If you're a virgin that will be a negative trait to women because they'll assume a thousand things about you at once. Of course women don't want to admit this, you'll never admit to your very shallow dating preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 05:35 PM
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The pressure is never a deal breaker, and for a woman it's always the unattractive to virginity. There's no point in trying to dress it up as anything more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:04 PM
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You wouldn't be attracted. If the guy's a virgin he's likely not gonna be the best looking dude on the block, and in the very rare scenario where the virgin is also very good looking, you wouldn't give a fuck about the pressure lol. This whole "I won't fuck a virgin" thing is stemming from virginity being an unattractive trait in men. But like with most shallow preferences of women, they try to dress it up and make it seem like a more complex and pretty thing than it is, but in reality it's as s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:00 PM
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A guy isn't gonna care, virginity isn't really a negative among men, and among plenty of men it's a good thing that he gets to take a woman's virginity. Women aren't the same, virginity is very unattractive in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 11:57 AM
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It really ain't rocket science like you're making it out to be, it's not some mysteriously complex reason why you don't wanna fuck a virgin, you're just not attracted to them, next to no woman is (Unless he's good looking, but then he wouldn't be a virgin).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:43 AM
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This is a roundabout way for her to say "I don't like virgins". It's female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/18 12:37 AM
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What's your gender, and do you have female friends? Nope. My lack of female friends has only contributed towards my dislike of them. It's not as though I haven't tried to talk to girls, they just never liked me for whatever reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/18 02:18 AM
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IDK how you can't get that being a LITERAL torso and looking like a LOTR prop isn't a dealbreaker for8438238243842% of the women. If that were the case you agree that looks will make women not want to date you? Funny how you'll admit the black pill when prodded just a little. Then show me I literally don't fucking get it. This is an ugly person: https://i.imgur.com/cubN5Vs.png He's about my looksmatch. Again, much taller, and he's white, but even for him it's probably over for him in the West. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:34 AM
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He has no facial deformities, facially he looks better than me, and face is all that matters when it comes to females. If that's the ugliest guy you can think of then stop trying to argue with other people about their ugliness, because you have zero frame of reference when it comes to ugliness. What stops me from dating my own ethnic pool? The fact that i'm fucking ugly, that's what! If I were White my ugliness could be forgiven, Whiteness comes with an associated status, especially abroad. Whit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:35 PM
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It would take years of saving for me to get enough money to get the least expensive of those surgeries, i'm not a Lawyer or some shit, I don't make enough money to just do that kind of thing. If I were White that would probably be an option, but an ugly ethnic is ugly and undesired anywhere in the world. What, do you mean this guy? You think he's ugly? Christ, normies have such a bad perception on ugliness, no wonder you think incels have no reason to complain, you think at our ugliest we look l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 06:21 PM
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That is perfectly fine. Also trust me doxxing you would be a giant waste of time or doxxing anyone in general lol. I wish everyone on the internet felt that way, but I can't trust everyone to think like that. The first guy 100% mogs me by at least 2 points, the 2nd guy is my looksmatch if only because of his obesity and specifically the way the fat is distributed on his face. If he were my weight (128lbs) he'd mog me into the grave since it doesn't look like he has any major facial flaws outside…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:33 PM
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There's literally nothing wrong with the people in that photo other than obesity, like you'd think the guy would look more like a blob, but nah, his face remains looking okay for a guy his age despite being 300+ lbs. He facemogs me at 300+ lbs, I can't imagine how bad i'd be mogged if he were normal weight. Im not giving my pics to someone who seems to be pretty anti-incel, I don't even share pics amongst other incels unless I know them well and can trust them. There's too much of a risk of doxx…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:12 PM
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I'm not socially incapable, i'm no social butterfly but i'm not an autist that can't hold a conversation. Again, looks above all will decide if anyone wants to fuck you. It doesn't help if you're an undesirable ethnicity (Read: Not White) and if you're short, and if you're not rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 03:38 PM
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At least 50
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:08 PM
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To be fair they are rather mentally ill I'm not mentally ill, i'm just ugly. How delluded do you have to be to think that looks don't matter and that any one who is a virgin is mentally ill? You're recommended hard drugs yet we're the ones who are mentally ill 🤔🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 01:07 PM
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If looks didn't matter then just assume all of us look ugly as sin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:58 AM
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When you've had a girlfriend and had sex, you're by definition, not an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:58 AM
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lol you still ain't read my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 09:48 PM
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lol bro you're so delusional, i'm not gonna respond to every 5k of your replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 09:15 PM
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It's like you didn't read the rest of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 09:14 PM
1

In the end it all goes back to looks, which is why half of TRP and TBP are bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 05:59 PM
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Lol, isn't the point of TRP that you can't just say anything you want, and that you instead have to spit game? JFL if you think Chad has to spit game.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 05:16 PM
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Any other guys make Chad tinder accounts? Man, it's crazy the shit you can get away with saying if you use a very attractive guy for your pics. I literally used the most racist, pick-up line possible to an Asian girl and she was still pretty receptive to me, or rather to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/18 04:18 PM
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Maybe, but i'm not a woman, i'm a man, do i'm gonna assume i'd still like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 11:21 PM
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If I have a child I hope you'll be there alongside me praying that it's a boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 10:21 PM
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Like I said, women can find relationships far easier than men, there's plenty out there. Half of the men hitting them up on Tinder aren't just looking for a quick fuck, maybe the best looking men are, but the rest are looking for relationships. Men on the other hand most men aren't getting hit up on Tinder at all. You can make the excuse of "b-b-but women aren't attracted to those men that want relationships!!!", but that's not refuting my point, that's reaffirming it whilst giving a weak-ass ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 08:55 PM
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So in other words a weak-ass excuse. You also said "There aren't plenty of relationships for women", which I just explained is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 08:54 PM
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Because going to the gym isn't going to get you laid you strongboy. All it will do is get you compliments from other men. My body aesthetic is fucking fine as it is, it's not my body that makes me incel, it's my face. Nevermind the fact that I know plenty of incels who can bench 2 plates, I can refer them to you if you'd like.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 08:53 PM
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I post black pill stuff here all the time. They just don't like "woe is me" posts, which is understandable. It's stupid to post woe is me shit anyways, because then a bunch of people who can't relate to you at all try and throw advice your way. But the blackpill itself is allowed, and i've had very little trouble with the mods in discussing it. The only thing I have to skirt around is the race rule, since acknowledging advantages/disadvantages of race is part and parcel of the black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 08:50 PM
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I'd be a lesbian for starters. I have no desire for penis. If I had a daughter I dunno how I would instruct her how to live. Do whatever she feels like. I'd try to hammer in values of honesty, empathy and kindness into her early on, but past her teenage years I wouldn't know what to do with her. You can't control female sexuality, they just act on instinct. They'll fuck a bad boy, they'll probably get their heart broken by a buncha Chads, there's no point trying to guide a daughter into doing th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 08:47 PM
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lmao, I don't know what part of this you're not getting. Like I said, women can find relationships far easier than men, there's plenty out there. Half of the men hitting them up on Tinder aren't just looking for a quick fuck, maybe the best looking men are, but the rest are looking for relationships. Men on the other hand most men aren't getting hit up on Tinder at all. You can make the excuse of "b-b-but women aren't attracted to those men that want relationships!!!", but that's not refuting my…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 08:40 PM
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they have to settle for men who are unattractive to them and who put minimal effort into being attractive Often times these men do put effort into how they look, they just don't look good enough for women. This Just World Fallacy bullshit that non-blackpilled people do is retarded. "Women are only turning down men who don't put effort into how they look!" By definition they have an easier time getting relationships. I have to both settle for women who don't put effort into their appearances and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 06:24 PM
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Good for them, Tinder and OKCupid and other dating sites are for relationships as well. If they want a hook up they can easily hit up Chad. If they want a relationship there are plenty of men looking for one. Like I said, women can't lose. Both sex and relationships are easy to get. A relationship with Chad is a little bit more difficult to attain, but that's what you get when shooting for the top 10% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 05:22 PM
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I don't got any research as the reason, we just all know and can't deny that jawline and chin are very important facial features for attractiveness. https://i.imgur.com/7jUVNIy.png
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:41 PM
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You're mocking me. I get it. So clever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:33 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:27 PM
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Found the whole article to be interesting. If someone doesn't think you're hot, the next best thing for them to think is that you're ugly. When some men think you're ugly, other men are more likely to message you. Bloopers, Twerps, and Purple Pillers just realizing what the Black Pill has already said for ages... It's called Juggernaut Law, and this only works for women. This isn't a "Hot people versus ugly people" this is "hot women vs ugly women". The uglier chicks are getting even more attent…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 04:12 PM
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Because they're constantly bragging about the shit and I see them with women all the time, it's not a mystery what's going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 07:14 PM
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This is the dumbest thing I constantly hear online. This isnt 1994, the requirement for using the internet isn't being a virgin. I know guys personally who shitpost online everyday and still slay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:48 PM
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I think money is the exception. If you're a billionaire you can look like the Hunchback from Notre Dame and every woman in the vicinity will be willing to be your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 02:27 AM
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I agree, you have to meet a certain looks threshold before TRP shit even matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 12:12 AM
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"Look at what a woman does, not what she says." It doesn't matter if women in general are morally opposed to the Red Pill, what matters are if they respond favorably to the tactics of the Red Pill. If they work (Will only work if you're above a certain looks threshold) then why wouldn't they use it? Who cares if soy boys and women call it "sexist" if women fall for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:51 PM
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And what are those studies? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x https://www.kaggle.com/jph84562/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating http://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html http://www.elainehatfield.com/uploads/3/4/5/2/34523593/108._hatfield__sprecher_2009.pdf And plenty, plenty more. In real life dating is nowhere near as easy as just be good looking. Women expect charisma, composure and engaging conversation. It re…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:46 PM
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Because the actual academic studies on the topic use an infinitely larger sample size, with variables controlled for, than your selected bunch of guys (Like seriously, you used Orb? The guy has women orbiting him online). Nevermind the fact that I could use any one of those guy's faces to Chadfish on Tinder and have a hook-up in the hour and a LTR if I decide to play it more patiently. Chadfish women on Tinder, it's a truly eye opening experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:36 AM
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"When we dead bedroom it's the man's fault! When the man dead bedrooms it's the man's fault!" Missed a spot sweaty 🤠🤠🤠
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:35 AM
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Imagine being so arrogant you think your nature is inherently more complicated and precious than the other gender that's the same species as you lol. "When we dead bedroom it's the man's fault! When the man dead bedrooms it's the man's fault!"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:32 AM
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lol, you're right, it's not complicated at all, just like I said you women care about looks primarily. You can try and pretend otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:28 AM
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It is, you're trying to dress it up and make it seem all prettier and more complicated than it is, as if Women are somehow inherently less shallow than men. No, it's simple, they dead bedroom their partner because of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 12:25 AM
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Men rarely ever dead bedroom their wives. No, women dead bedroom their husbands because they're not physically attracted to them anymore lmao, it's not fucking rocket science. If he looked like the same man she married she wouldn't have lost attraction for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 09:47 PM
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Got any other statistics for us? None of that "A hurr durr durr, yung ppl acshually have low divorce stats" shit either, it shouldn't be hard to realize why that's a dumb thing to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:47 PM
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All else being equal, a woman would take a high value (good looking, confident, ambitious, natural winner) good man over a high value asshole. But the high value asshole is still going to slay, and will win out 100x/100 against a low value good man. (Not gonna say "high value low value" since it's looks, just say it how it is, don't dress it up as anything more) Who cares? The good looking "good man" gets one woman, the good looking asshole fucks multiple chicks. Sure, most girls would choose th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:36 PM
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Women cause dead bedrooms far far too often, i'd say that looks fade and so does attraction. Also look at divorce statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 05:30 PM
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It's almost entirely looks. Bad looks are a dealbreaker to a woman, bad personality not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 01:08 PM
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Lol, when will you idiots understand there is no such thing as a "good guy". Just a good looking guy and a bad looking guy. You personality traits don't matter, it's all in your physical characteristics. It's not that nice guys finish last, that's always been cope, it's the ugly looking man who finishes last. You can be a Nice Guy and women won't mock you -- if you're good looking. This is why you're being reprimanded so harshly by all the women in this thread, even the suggestion that they shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 11:33 AM
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That's not my point though. Saying ethnic men can't complain about how the SMP is stacked against them in the west because "a durr durr, why did you come here then!?" is braindead the moment you think about it for half a second. We also just had an entire argument where you agreed with me that women date out and prefer white men at a disproportionate rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 11:32 PM
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...You know that the majority of the ethnics here were born here, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:43 PM
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Looking into it more, i'll concede this point. I don't actually have any other evidence other than the interracial co-habitation stats and the Yahoo Personals (Which I can't find the source of) that Asian women do have a specific preference towards White men any moreso than other ethnic women do. This narrative mostly comes from those two things I mentioned earlier, as well as the abundance of anecdotes coming from the hapa and Asian-American community in general. Stuff like this video and the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:42 PM
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Congrats for being the exception I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 10:16 PM
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Asians of either sex are the most likely to marry/date outside their race -- according to the data you linked. It shouldn't surprise you that the gender disparities layered atop the racial disparities produce this result. Considering that dating favours a male approach, and that racial hierarchies favour Asians more or less on par with Hispanics and above Blacks, it should be no surprise that white men approach Asian women more than other non-Asian races do. Given the demographics of dating site…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 08:22 PM
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No, all of the stats i've shown so far as indicated that they marry/date white men at a greater rate, same with the preferences listen in the Yahoo Personals study. It ultimately won't matter if they message Asian men slightly more than White men, Women rarely message at all. That study you're referencing also shows that Asian women respond more favorably to White men's messages than Asian men's, i'd say that's an active preference for White men. If I ask you if you want a Banana or an Apple and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 07:13 PM
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So... They're the most biased for white men...? I feel like you're splitting hairs here. I don't see how "Biased for white men" and "Biased against Black/Hispanic men" are mutually exclusive. I'm pretty sure we're agreeing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 06:58 PM
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The expected rates should be a similar % as Black and Hispanic interracial cohabitation, but instead they co-habitate interacially far more often. Naturally races tend to date within themselves, it's an outlier when like with Asian-Americans, one gender dates out at a far greater rate than the other. Even moreso when that race is dating out at a far greater rate than other ethnic minorities in the same country. It's not as simple as "Well 94% of them should be dating out because they're only 6% …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 06:56 PM
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That's not how that works. Proportionally they should still cohabitate at a FAR higher rate with Asian men, just like other ethnic minorities do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 06:49 PM
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As I said: it's the US racial hierarchy that causes this, not the ludicrous idea that Asian women have some overwhelming hunger specifically for white cock. I wasn't trying to imply that per se, just that these patterns are FAR more pronounced in Asian women than any other race. The black pill as a whole notes the racial biases in favor of white men as a whole, Asian women just happen to be the most bias for white men from any of the studies I can find on this. According to this data, black wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 06:39 PM
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I honestly can't remember where the original source came from. I think it was from this; https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/673129?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents study, but I maybe wrong on that. I've been using the image for so long without anyone questioning its source that I don't even remember where I originally got it from.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:46 PM
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The problem is that other studies show why this is likely the case; Asian female preferences, like that online dating study I linked. https://i.imgur.com/rOyrrVp.png In this study you can see that 40% of Asian-American women with a state preference exclude Asian men as dating options. This is the highest % of "Exclude own race" noted in that study. 2.5x the rate that Latina women exclude Latina men, and over 8x the rate which White women exclude white men. They're also the only grouping there wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:15 PM
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I consider a blue piller, blue pilled. If you're purple pilled i'm not talking about you per se, I don't even know what the purple pill entails specifically, it's a hodgepodge of varying TRP and TBP ideologies and varies based on which purple piller you're talking to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 05:07 PM
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Who said I believed that ? No one, are we not talking about the blue pill here?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 04:43 PM
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It's delusion to believe your life experiences apply to everyone else. Believing that the world treats everyone else the same way it treats you is the height of narcissism. That's what bloopers believe. They believe that because just being themselves got them a relationship, that's how it works for everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 04:06 PM
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You can see the raw data of Asian female preference from a study right there in the second link, it has everything to do with their own preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:48 PM
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That's not a good explanation, because then Asian women's co-habitation outside of their race would be proportional to the same rate as other minorities in America, and it would also be proportionate to the racial makeup of America. However, that's not the case. Literally just look at the second race to see that Asian women have an outright bias in favor of white men, they're the only race there that excludes their own race at a higher rate than another race.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:43 PM
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I'm not Asian or racist. It's just that the mate selection of Asian women is easily one of the most basic observations the black pill makes, and she straight up proves it from the get-go lmao. https://i.imgur.com/rOyrrVp.png https://i.imgur.com/wMpQ7IE.png
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:31 PM
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Haha, GOTTEEEEEEEM. https://i.imgur.com/rOyrrVp.png It's funny how much reality confirms the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 03:23 PM
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What race is your bf??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 02:58 PM
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Your butthurt is palpable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 02:54 PM
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Straight up delusion is what leads someone to be blue pilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 12:31 PM
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I don't talk to them. To women, the only good ugly man is one that they don't have to interact with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 12:30 PM
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Is that why they virtue signal so hard? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 12:29 PM
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Lmao, Red Pillers are childish af. Cant prove me wrong so you spaz instead. Proof that looks are all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 12:27 PM
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Loool, your response to me calling you out on your blatant coping is to just sperg out like a giant fucking autist. Excellent. it's all your own damn fault. it's not your looks at all, it's partially because you're socially retarded, but mainly it's because you are scared and insecure. "Adurr hurr hurr, looks don't matter, it's all about ur personality" Jeez, if it were't for you flair, I would have thought I was talking to a blue piller. Then again, sometimes I can't tell the difference between…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/18 01:33 AM
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unless you have a legit medical deformity or something, you're not so ugly that social skills won't help. Oh wow, it will bring my % chance up from .00001% to .0001%, so much help. Looks are the major factor for deciding whether you get into a girl's pants, and ESPECIALLY if you want a relationship afterwards (So much cope by saying women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of relationships, women are the gatekeepers of both), if you don't meet a girl's minimum looks thresho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 10:28 PM
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Yeah you're right, there shouldn't be much to debate here, he already attacked incels, you're gonna tell me most of his audience is incels? Like most bloops and purples you're committed to a just world fallacy. Yeah, most of his audience is racist, I can agree with you there. But to say "educated whites" or that women can't be racist or stupid? That stupidity and racism is only limited to incels? That's braindead. A look at who voted for Donald Trump should quickly disprove the shit you're spewi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 07:46 PM
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The fuck are you talking about? He literally addressed the incel communtiy specifically and attacked us. I wish I had the video but they're gone with his takedowns from Youtube. Again, that's where this whole uninformed "incels are all alt-righters and all alt-righters are incels!!!" bullshit has you, it has you making stupid assumptions that are easily disproven. Literally half of the incel community is ethnic, this stupid "Incels are white nationalist alt-righters!" isn't even based on anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 07:07 PM
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Alex Jones hates incels and we hate him back. Look at where that incels = alt-right irrational assumption got ya. Made an ass out of you, and not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 06:36 PM
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I've seen the opposite first hand constantly. Women constantly pursuing a guy despite a lack of personality and/or a bad personality. If you weren't getting pursued more then you're not nearly as good looking as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:58 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/a35Y4Jt.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:56 PM
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From Stacies. Every woman wants Chad, and when I Chadfish I don't even bother with the fatties. Why would I when I could fuck with some 10/10s.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:55 PM
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I can use an 8/10 non-model guy as a Chadfish on Tinder and I can say whatever the fuck I want and still get interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:36 PM
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Yeah, from just an above average looking guy, if the guy were actually good looking you would've still fucked him and dated him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:35 PM
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Obviously not, but they want to, they just can't because women have very high standards and don't wanna marry someone for something as irrelevant as "personality".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:34 PM
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No, if you're good looking they'll still pursue that guy. It's like when an ugly guy tells a joke to a girl and she hates it, but a good looking guy tells the same joke with the same delivery it'll be the funniest shit she's ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:32 PM
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That's a good quote, i'm gonna start using that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 05:31 PM
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You really think that TRPers are unsuccessful with women because they read TRP rather than having gone to TRP because they're unsuccessful with women? Lmao. TBP is such a joke. Can't even recognize cause & effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 01:03 PM
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Looks are always the issue. If you're good looking women will pursue you, if you're ugly no amount of social skills will save you. I guess if you're in that awkward average to above average area it can be complete lack of social skills, in which case TRP will help you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 01:01 PM
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Incels do out of desperation.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 12:59 PM
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I see FAR FAR more promiscuous women than I do guys. Yeah, it's my perception vs yours, you have no ground to argue that yours is more of a reality than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 06:17 PM
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I'd argue i've seen way more girls like that than what I would describe as "rare".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:42 PM
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A lot of girls also don't fuck just one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 05:22 PM
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Implying they only have sex with a partner, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 04:21 PM
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No woman wants to say they've had sex like 15+ times in the last 28 days. And no guy wants to say hes had sex 0 times in the last 28 days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:56 PM
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They're not going to be helping him either so long as he's ugly. It only becomes a factor once you have a reasonable SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:55 PM
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How? 6 is still a lot of fucking sex compared to an incels zero, and women lie about their n-counts being smaller whilst guys will exaggerate their n-counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:15 PM
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Personality is only a plus if you meet the minimum looks/wealth/status threshold. Aggressiveness and ambitiousness are moot on someone with a low SMV in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/18 12:13 PM
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Pretty sure that's not what TRP says lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:34 PM
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I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:55 PM
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Nah, the caveat is that this plan isn't for ugly people in general. Like i've been saying. TRP is only helpful if you're an average looking white dude that doesn't know any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 06:39 PM
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Being a strongman is irrelevant to that. To have a body good enough to not be instantly disqualified for it means not eating like a fat ass, easy as that. Other than that body won't influence your chances much. Face, Race, and Height are far more important, body barely factors in so long as you're not fat. Keep in mind I myself am in decent shape. I'm not a big dummy strongman who can bench 1000lbs, but i'm in good shape.) And like I said I know incels who are giant gymrats who don't get laid ei…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:29 PM
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Of course, but ultimately if you have sex it doesn't matter if they get repulsed later down the line. Yes, I know women aren't attracted sexually to their betabux, they're only sexually attracted to good looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 03:00 PM
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If we want to be absolutely accurate, women don't care about wealth. Women care about your lifestyle. Uh, no? They care about the wealth. Betabuxxing is another term for the M in LMS. Status ensure that you keep that lifestyle, and ambition ensure that such thing will mostly grow. No, status on its own is enough for a woman to desire you. They want to be with someone who is high-status regardless of their other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:50 PM
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So we agree what women are falling in love with is the "wealth" and "status", the ambition is simply an ingredient that can help you get wealth and status (Which doesn't mean you WILL attain wealth and status with ambition, nor does it mean you can't attain wealth and status without ambition).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:34 PM
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oh look someone who never tried red pilling properly says the red pill doesnt work how interesting Yes, i'm someone who has tried TRP strategies and who has seen guys go hard on the red pill and still end up virgins says TRP doesn't work, strange right? I don't even think it's about protection or presence. I think girls see a ripped guy and know he can pick her up over his head, toss her 5 ft onto the bed, and pound her all night. Flabby losers can't do any of that. You think girls see a ripped …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:25 PM
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TRP is everything and nothing at the same time apparently. It's whatever you TRPers want it to be to suit your argument. I stand by what I say, TRP preaches "ambition", but what really matters is "status" and "wealth".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:24 PM
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Nope, I know those who can but are as incel as me anyways, being a strongman doesn't help. You wouldn't be able to articulate how, how much you bench would help and ugly, short, ethnic guy get laid either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:08 PM
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I'm not saying he shouldn't give up, I'm saying TRP will still help. I'm all in favour of saying that men have to provide too much effort for too few rewards. If at the end of the day whether LDAR or follows TRP but still ends up a virgin, then TRP didn't "help". What's that? kissless hugless h... virgin? handholdless. Stupid, I know, but KHHV flows better than KHV. TRP doesn't pretend to have anything to save the unluckiest men. It doesn't even pretend to have anything to make sure average men …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 02:03 PM
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Then TRP and TBP should say that Money and Status are what ugly men need to get, after all that's the key thing that attracts women, personality and ambition are just ingredients that could help to achieve money and status. But obviously that's not what TRP and TBP are saying. They're saying women fall in love with ambitious men or with men with good personalities, as opposed to falling in love with high status men and wealthy men, it's an important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:25 PM
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5'5 almost obese is not "decent", I'm a 3/10, maybe 3.5/10 in my good days. Notice how you have nothing to point out wrong with yourself facially other than being fat. Nah, he's not a 1/10. TRPers and TBPers don't know how to rate because none of you have perspective on ugliness. He's a 2/10, he's only got one minor deformity with his cross eye, incels that are 1/10s are the ones with major facial deformities. Oh great, he'll raise his chance from a .0000000001% or .0000000001% by following TRP …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 01:21 PM
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How do you think the lifting and healthy lifestyle will affect your hormone balances? How do you think that will affect your ambition and drives? Haven't you read anything about TRP in fact? Have you read any of the black pill? Body is cope, and so is this "personality" meme. Personality and "game" only work if you're above a certain looks threshold in the first place. Nowhere in "Looks, Money, Status" is "game", "personality" or "ambition". Red pill will still work if you're very low SMV, Black…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 12:31 PM
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There are plenty of black pilled individuals that aren't incel lmao. Anyone who recognizes that looks are king in the dating world, and that if you're below a certain looks threshold it's o v e r, is black pilled. It's not rocket science. Sure, attach it to a group of people you don't like, that doesn't make the black pill any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 12:03 PM
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TRPers will blame you all the same if you claim TRP strategies didn't work for you, just like TBPers will if you claim their advice didn't work for you. So yes, in that respect, TRP is making the assumption that all guys have a chance, no different from TBP. The Black Pill dismisses that all together and points out that not every guy has a realistic chance. Yes, Black pill says with enough status and wealth you can get laid, that however is not synonymous with what TRP claims is "game" or all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 12:00 PM
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Nah, they do good even without social skills, women will look past anything to fuck/date a good looking guy. But there are a handful of """incels""" who look good but literally just don't leave their basement and have EXTREME social anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:49 AM
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Black pill is fact whether you're incel or not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:48 AM
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Gold-diggers. Sugar babies. Camgirls. Fuck you can even rent a pornstar. That's just a cruel recommendation. "Go to these women who are designed to take all your money brahhh!". This is why normie advice to uggos is so stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:29 AM
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No it's not, red pill is a meme if you're ugly. TRP believes guys have a chance if they just "hold frame brah" and "spit fire game brah!!!", which isn't accurate if you're just plain ugly and short. That's where the blackpill comes in, it recognizes the fact that for a handful of men all of that advice is useless. A short, ugly, arab in America isn't suddenly going to be pulling in the ladies if he uses red pill strategies, that's just fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:28 AM
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The truth is that being yourself actually works for most people, in one way or another. If you need to resort to all these bullshit self help gimmicks your future isn't looking good. As black pilled as I am, that's not wholly accurate. There are those that TRP is helpful for, namely good looking guys who are just socially retarded or average looking guys, i've seen plenty of them in the "incel" community and if they just followed TRP they'd escape in no time. Blue pill works for guys who are alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:21 AM
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It's called the black pill, and he's correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/18 11:16 AM
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Anyone his height or taller for starters, so just about under 50% of girls already (So suifuel for short guys in their early 20s). That much can be confirmed for a fact by multiple studies on the issue, women do not want a man who is shorter than them. As for how much of the remainder would want to date him? Dunno. It depends on the remaining factors. Height alone will exclude you from dating any woman that is taller than you, it serves as a disadvantage even disregarding them and makes you less…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 11:31 PM
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If you're ugly it's over, just focus on work instead of stressing over shit you have no control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 08:28 PM
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No one said East Asia doesnt work for JBW, you're disagreeing for the sake of it. We recommend SEA because that's the easiest. And no, the same thing isn't available for ethnic men. Try to pick up chicks in Nigeria and if you have dark skin yourself you're not suddenly going to be coveted like a white guy. Same with South America. Ethnics aren't afforded the same halo effect as Whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 04:29 PM
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I said the guys I know orbit, i'd never be so beta and cucked as to orbit a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 11:16 AM
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Fucking hell you need to be more concise with what you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 11:59 PM
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It's not so much that I don't wanna hear the black pill, it's just that it's silly to hear virgins talk about women. It's also silly to hear good looking white guys tell ugly incels that women don't care about looks but you don't see me bitchin' How old are you? 19? It would explain how you know absolutely nothing about women. Brad Pitt has been the world's Apex Chad for the past 30 years or so. Brad Pitt will suffice if women can't have Henry Cavill? lmao. I'm not talking about Brad Pitt i'm ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 06:47 PM
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I'm not going to Europe, the western world in general is suifuel for ethnic men that aren't good looking. Beauty standards are higher in Europe than I imagine anywhere else in the world. Lol, I don't know what world you're living in with your observations. Day by day I see the black pill validated right before my very eyes. Women aren't hypergamous. Women aren't all chasing after Chad's dick. A small percentage is. The nightclub diva you all want. The majority? No. The majority just wants a boyf…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 06:41 PM
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Never heard of such things from people i'm close with, all of them orbit for awhile before she either ghosts or she asks for pics and then ghosts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:54 PM
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You're white aren't you? Just saying; that shit doesn't work for an ethnic man. We already have a theory for that in the blackpill; it's called "Just Be White" theory. So long as you're not so poor you can't travel to SEA, it doesn't matter if you're ugly, if you're White you can find a woman in SEA who is willing to marry you. A former incel named itsOVER is famous for this, since he went to Thailand and has gotten 5 women and counting pregnant after being incel all his life in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:52 PM
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Wrong. Women have to make themselves appealing enough for a man to want to get in a relationship, instead of just alright enough for fucking. Lmao, no the fuck they don't. Set up a female account on OKCupid right now and say you don't have sex until marriage. A fat, ugly pig can get a relationship EASY, they don't even have to work for it, it's funny AF. Women put a lot of effort into their physical looks, sense of fashion, and their feminity. And they work intensively on being interest and char…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:50 PM
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Don't respond to someone with the flair "black pill" if you don't wanna hear the black pill then. These women weren't waiting for a 19 year old Henry Cavill to show up, they just wanted a guy who was into them, that wanted to be with them either than wanting to get inside of their pussies and dry hammering for 30 seconds, and they wanted to have someone to share their day to day life with. They don't necessarily want Henry Cavill, Brad will suffice if they can't have Chad. Also lmao, stop with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:41 PM
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That's all a load of shit and anyone with a modicum of experience can tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 04:32 PM
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I know guys who orbit "lonely" women as a hobby, obviously nothing substantial has ever arisen for them out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 02:17 AM
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You got mail-order bride money?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 02:16 AM
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It's not meant to be ironic anyways lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 08:15 PM
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Compared to women, guys tend to suck at creating emotionally intimate and lasting friendships. How? When a guy has to do all of the work to get a relationship, and to maintain that relationship, i'd say it's women who suck at creating emotionally intimate and lasting relationships. Like I said, FA women are FA by choice. It's not that "they can only get sex which isn't fulfilling to them like it is for men!!!", they can get dates too, they just choose not to. It's telling that the FA women sub e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 08:14 PM
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Basically this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 08:09 PM
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Female Forever Alones don't exist because as a female it's FAR easier to get sex/companionship. Go to any female FA post and you'll see something along the lines of "Had a boyfriend until a week ago, but i am so TOTALLY forever alone too guiz!!!". I have thousands and thousands of examples of this I can dig up. If a woman is FA it's by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 08:06 PM
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They come from female mate selection. If you're a woman you have a much higher threshold for how unattractive you look before most men won't date you, if you're a man that threshold is much lower. Ugly men get the shaft until they become reliable beta bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/18 08:00 PM
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And if you have a truly low SMV from the beginning no amount of red pilling is gonna save you. An incel can't LARP as an alpha and get laid, it just doesn't work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 02:35 AM
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Potent blackpill. TRP is a meme, it doesn't work if you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 02:06 AM
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It's not like every single woman in the world is the problem It's fairly likely that's the case, actually. Ugly is ugly and nearly all women will recognize that. I'm not asking for personal advice right now, lets stick to that. Don't speak to my chances personally, we're strictly discussing SMP and how it works on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 01:23 AM
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You're strawmanning the shit out of me, I never claimed that Blue Pillers say that looks don't matter. What I am asserting is that looks matter far more than blue pillers will ever admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 01:20 AM
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This is why I think the blue pill is such garbage though, they don't acknowledge any of the shit you're acknowledging. If /u/ThunderbearIM's advice didn't work for you then you suck and are the problem, because it's supposed to be that easy for you. I agree with everything you say though. As an incel you have to overcompensate in some way. Lots of plastic surgery, lots of money, lots of talent, you're gonna need that if you wanna get anywhere because that's what women want. I wouldn't advise an …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:56 AM
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Wasn't doing woe-is-me. I was spreading the black pill, none of that comment was about me. Or is a gloom and doom perspective on the SMP considered woe-is-me all the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:46 AM
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Because women my age who also are not particularly attractive do not want men who are not particularly attractive, because they can get particularly attractive men for at least a short amount of time. You think I was approaching Stacy everyday when I still gave a damn? No! I was approaching my looksmatch, I was approaching even below my looksmatch (Aka, fatties, despite me not being attracted to them in the least). Fact of the matter is that looks matters above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 01:53 AM
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Oh god the Vice article where they got a perfectly good looking 8/10 white guy to be the voice of an incel. And then the masses eat it up because they're too stupid to realize they're being force fed a one-sided narrative. Guys if you were an incel and stuck in such a terrible rut as this fairly normal looking guy and someone told you that if you packed a bag, took a few hundred dollars, and got on a bus to move a thousand miles to live on your own but after a few years of harsh struggle your li…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 12:28 AM
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I do all of this, never had it worked. I work out, I used to have decent self-esteem, I always had personal hygiene, and I never tried the acting like a dick thing since that's just not in me to be outwardly dickish. None of it works. None of it. Blue pillers don't wanna believe that it can just be an ugly face that will get you rejected by 99.9% of women, but it can. I guess part of it is also height, perhaps a little bit of the R word too, lets group all of that under "looks". Looks are king a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 12:16 AM
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I'd find it attractive. One of my main gripes with women as a whole is I view their nature as inherently selfish and deceitful, a woman who is heroic with protective ideals I think I could get over her looks or anything else and fall in love with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 02:33 PM
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Because i'm ugly. No amount of work will make me even above average. Assuming I used a realistic amount of plastic surgery I can afford, my face is still capped at a 5/10, and my SMV is capped even lower due to height and race.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 03:52 AM
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it obviously does It obviously does not. AWALT. The pretty ones are just as choosy and hypergamous as the ugly ones. you got shot down because you're ugly not because you're a nerd I agree. Like I said Face > Everything. It's not a matter of girls waiting around for the nerdy guy to make a move, it's a matter of girls waiting around for a good looking guy to make a move, contrary to your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 07:03 PM
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Keep memeing hard buddeh.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 04:35 PM
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date the woman who meets your minimum level of attractiveness ..instead of dating the hottest girl who will settle for you Or date the hottest because it doesn't make a difference. it makes a big difference. if you're a 5 who marries a 6 ..you're going to get deadbedroom and cheated on. if you marry a 4 you won't get that end result. And i'm saying a 4/10 will still cheat on you. You have to go a fair bit lower because all women believe they deserve a man a fair bit better looking than themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 04:35 PM
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If they married within there league then their wives wouldn't be settling on looks. She would be happy with sex. Nah, most women want Chad, always remember 80/20 rule. It's not a matter of settling on looks, it's a matter on settling for someone with a lower SMV. As a man dating your looksmatch isn't enough, your looksmatch will always want someone better looking than you. You'd have to betabuxx someone significantly uglier than yourself. Regardless, betabuxxing as a concept is humiliating. If y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 02:33 PM
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I'm a guy. I've got no standards, so really anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 11:57 AM
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This. Women will decide your worth in less than a second. Game as a concept is ridiculous because it pretends that sex comes down to personality -- no. It comes down all to looks. If she's attracted to you then congratulations, you got her. If she's not attracted to you... then sorry buddy, no amount of "game" will save you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/18 11:56 AM
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When men do ask for sympathy they're laughed at and humiliated. Look at MRAs for the biggest example of that. Sympathy for a man will only come if he's attractive, then it is okay to shed tears and have woes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 10:57 PM
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No, not just by guys looking to fuck you. In every respect there will be more sympathy for your plights than for a man's. Hell, speaking of male thirst, it's so easy for women to exploit that for their gain. Why get a real job when you can do shit like sell your panties for ez money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 07:01 PM
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Yeah, kinda. Why or why not? Because women have it easier in nearly every respect. They get babied by society. Ugly, pretty, fat, skinny, it doesn't matter, they'll be treated much better than men. Men are disposable, women are to be cared for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 04:52 PM
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He doesn't have a good face. That's really all. There are other factors that can be holding him back, like height, ethnicity, bad socially, etc... but ultimately all of that would be forgiven if he had a 7+/10 face. All of the behaviors you listed I believe are bad for a man to exhibit romantically, especially if he's below the age where beta buxxing becomes an option, but that wouldn't matter if he was handsome because then women would desire him and approach him anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/18 04:21 AM
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It just states that they’re not as preferred. Your title is that being ethnic is “as bad” as being short. You’ve in no way proved them to be the same. "They're just not as preferred". So they're less desired? Which is my point. I'm not going through the data stats of height vs race, I don't care enough to make that point. I'm just glad you admit that point that ethnics are less desired than whites.
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/18 08:10 PM
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No the abstract did not deny my own claim, it said that Asian, East Indians and Middle Eastern men are more excluded than other men, and it also states that Asian men and Black women for some reason are more excluded than their gender opposites, which all backs up my claims. Quote whichever part you think contradicts my claim though. The OKC data is simply that, data. I see no reason not to take that into account along with everything else. The last source I provided wasn't OKCupid btw.
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/18 08:00 PM
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Ugh, fine let me stop being a lazy-ass for a second and actually try and get my point across. I should have provided sources to the other graph that I included in this study, (That was a separate study) as well as included my other sources that led me to this conclusion, that's my bad. Here's the link to Graph #3's source I put together a table set of the average exclusion rates for each race based on male and female from said graph and this is what it came out to; Race Male Female Whites 31% 36…
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/18 07:38 PM
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On average ethnic roasties are far more likely to gravitate to white men than white women are to any group of ethnic, that's just a fact corroborated by the other graphs I posted. It's unbalanced, therefore making height less important than race.
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/18 07:08 PM
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What are you talking about? The data clearly shows that race played an even bigger role than height. Whether the data was significant enough to be noted is another thing alltogether, but my conclusion wasn't one that was wrong.
/r/BlackPillScience30/06/18 06:51 PM
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It never began for you.
/r/BlackPillScience15/05/18 11:49 PM
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Never tried RP personally, i'm a black piller. The only reason I bring up RP is because it addresses my issues with BP, and how BP doesn't actually care to help romantically unsuccessful men, it just mocks them for failing to fuck naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 10:31 PM
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Yes, no wonder. Romantically unsuccessful man who is still unsuccessful despite doing what BP has said thinks BP is a sham.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 09:58 PM
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Yes, incels by definition are romantically unsuccessful. KHHV
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 08:53 PM
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I'm not far-right, i'm not even conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 07:11 PM
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So you're telling me things like telling guys to be masculine, be assertive, be dominant, etc, aren't going to help a guy get laid? The 75-cent self-help pamphlet and Blue-Pill as a whole just tells you how to mold yourself into a proper soyboy, it doesn't tell you what you really need to get laid finally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 07:01 PM
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I've met plenty of people, all have turned me down, many doing so without mincing words in any way. Just going out and meeting someone won't work, you have to make yourself attractive. BP tells you just to be social, guarantee those ugly guys were more than just social, they were charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:53 PM
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Excellent. Then there's no reason for romantically unsuccessful men to listen to a thing BP says? If you're a virgin you're better off trying to follow RP since they're more likely to help you, rather than BP that seemingly admits that it doesn't want to help men who are virgins/relationship-less.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:50 PM
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If you have no experience, there's literally only one way to get experience. You won't get experience being in a relationship though. You might become more "social", but like I said, unless you start pretending to be someone you're not, you'll NEVER get laid just being social if you're ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:48 PM
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shyness and quietness come from feeling uncomfortable in your own skin. I'm quiet among people I feel comfortable around, so this just isn't true. Some people just don't like talking much and stay quiet when they have nothing to say. nerdy is fine, ugly is subjective and workable. Everything is subjective. Some girls like nerdy guys, most don't. Some girls might like guys who have, say, blackopscel's face, most definitely wouldn't. Someone who likes nerdy, ugly, shy/quiet guys is a unicorn that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:43 PM
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is there RP-specific advice on that besides practice? Probably not. Maybe if you were just trying to improve social skills BP would be helpful. I'd agree, if you go out there and just be yourself you'll make friends. But that won't get you a girlfriend, that won't get you laid, not on its own anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 06:39 PM
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Imagine being nerdy, quiet, shy, and ugly and getting laid lol. Blue Pill is a sham, you know full well someone who is like that isn't gonna get pussy, even if they somehow get comfortable in social environments. RP would tell you to stop being quiet, shy, and nerdy, or at least hide that part of you because it makes you a pussy repellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:37 PM
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They tell you what women really find attractive, basically. Mind you, i'm not a red piller, i'm black pill if anything, I just understand the existence of Red pill and why if I had to pick either BP or RP, i'd go RP every day. BP is what you just naturally try if you're a socially awkward guy, it's mainstream advice, "JUST BE YOURSELF!". Red Pill tells you that being yourself will only make you unattractive and lame if you're not already getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:28 PM
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Obviously even if you meet more women it won't help at all if you don't know how to get them to be attracted to you. That's what RP wants to teach, and what BP ignores. If you're some nerdy, quiet, shy guy who is just going out in public and trying to fake being a normal person, you're not just gonna "naturally" end up getting laid after some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:21 PM
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The bad advice comes from the assumption that you will just learn and that as a result it will just happen. Like I said, RP tells you HOW to do these things, they know it won't just happen naturally to those who lack social acuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 05:19 PM
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Oh okay, so LITERALLY what I said that you said, you just decided to be obtuse for no good reason. Just be social and something will happen, in other words, fake it till ya make it. Like I was saying though, BP just tells you to be social and things will magically get better (By you supposedly just improving at being social naturally). RP meanwhile tells you how to actually master social skills that will get you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:49 PM
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most problems with women are solved by leaving the house and forcing yourself to socialize until it starts to come natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:39 PM
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Your advice was to just leave and be social until something eventually "just happens".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 04:14 PM
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So BP's solution is that "It will just happen". Got it. BP is so unhelpful to guys who are romantically unsuccessful. If you already "put yourself out there" and are still, for example, an incel, then this is just discouraging because after a lengthy amount of time with no success it makes you believe there is something horribly wrong with you since it's not "just happening" to you, but it is for everyone else. This is what leads them to either swallow the black pill or go RP since RP actually t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/18 01:53 PM
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Didn't know London had such a large Asian population... Still only 18.4% and useless to Asians not in London.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 11:40 AM
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No, just referring to anecdotes from my experiences in the incel community and logically all of what I said makes sense. I'm a minority too so I can relate to a degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 05:03 AM
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Genetics is where the idea began. Asians, Indians included, are far more likely to be shorter and have certain traits that are unattractive like small frame, recessive jaw. But even disregading that all, Asians who are kind of "stuck" in the west have a harder time dating because they're a very small minority -- people of other races will find them less attractive by default and they'd have a harder time dating within their own race because so little of their own race exists in the west, narrowi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 03:52 AM
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It's just "random" words, but the point is that it's kind of a good look at how brutal attraction can be. That album is especially popular among incels for being a black pill for Indian men because of how the girls explicitly state that he loses a bunch of points just for the color of his skin. Lol not giving a fuck about women isn't going to have you drowning in pussy, it's not gonna suddenly make you a chad if you're ugly and aren't extremely charismatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/18 01:50 AM
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Didn't post em'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 02:33 PM
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What does PPD think of this: https://imgur.com/a/X75Jl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/18 11:57 AM
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I'm gonna end up alone forever, aren't I? Well, I already knew that anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/18 07:38 PM
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That's the conclusion i've come to as well tbh, that if "being myself" isn't enough it's best to just not deal with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:59 PM
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I think all the "just be yourself" advice is great for preventing this. Doesn't work for everyone though if "being yourself" means being a pretty boring person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/18 11:33 PM
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Oh you think 6 months is hard, try 20+ years! The point of inceldom is that it is an extreme minority, otherwise there wouldn't be any reason for despair and depression over being an incel. The fact that you think a 6 month dry spell is so crazy is obvious proof that you're not an incel. Incels are people who are all virgins, never had sex before. There's also Hookercels who have had sex, but only with prostitutes, so they somewhat consider themselves virgins too. But people just on a dry spell?…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 02:06 PM
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That's ridiculous and you know it. No one considers that type of person an incel. Not most incels and not society. We can stretch basically any term's definition if we want to include EVERYONE, hell, you can be an incel too -- have you had sex in the last hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 12:17 PM
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Give me the definition of the terms "Involuntary" and "Celibate".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 04:12 AM
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. I’ve seen some definitions like “6 months without sex,” I would bet lots of normal guys are incel at some point using that definition That's not an incel though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 01:44 AM
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That's what I would have thought, but I can't picture any other reason why the mid 30s age range would have such a low happiness rating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 10:29 PM
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I'm not arguing in circles, my only point is that it's still a double standard. Ethnic minorities will always (Excluding very specific scenarios) be treated worse than the ethnic majority, one gender will always have a harder time doing something than the other gender -- that doesn't make the social situations that arise out of these not double standards anymore. You can acknowledge something is unfixable in the immediate future, but that doesn't make it a double standard. You've started arguing…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:32 PM
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Black pill probably brings the happiness down a lot for men and singles, i'd also imagine a lot of the 30s surveryers were black pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:28 PM
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Anyway, the halo effect isn't a double standard, it's a natural psychological process to weed out unfit genes from the tribe. Humans have risen above the whole "natural selection" thing now, our society functions completely different from when we were still cavemen. You don't have to be a tall and naturally fit man to succeed in society anymore. Maybe in a world where as a woman you had to get with a tall athletic man to guarantee your survival these instincts make sense. But it's no longer a ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:24 PM
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what do you think beauty and symmetry in animals that have sexual reproduction actually ARE? Like I said, genes are the only thing you can know from just his looks. Everything else is an assumption. You don't know if he's any more compatible with you, you don't know if he has a better personality. It's okay to say you are more receptive to someone because of their looks, but that's a superficial thing to do, even if it is in human nature to do so. who said anything about "virtuous"? You mentione…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:17 PM
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You treat two individuals of the same species differently, because they ARE DIFFERENT. I wouldn't treat a Great Dane different than a Chiuhaha though. I'd treat a Pit Bull differently from both, but Pit Bulls are the more violent breed so that's not exactly a 1:1 comparison with the original hypothetical. In the original hypothetical you can't make any other assumptions about the guys because they're both just humans. You can assume more violent tendencies from the uglier guy than you would the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:13 PM
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That's a deflection and a half. First of all, it's a hypothetical, we're assuming they're both equally hygienic on a surface level. Anything else is just demonstrating the halo effect, you're assuming that because he looks good his parents are well-off, his habits are virtuous, and his values align with yours. That's the definition of superficial or "Judging a book by its covered". You can't know any of this just because he looks attractive (In this hypothetical he wouldn't be any better dressed…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 06:03 PM
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I wasn't aware Great Danes were supposed to be intimidating, certainly aren't to me. Regardless you seem to be backpedaling. If I judge one dog more harshly over the other despite them doing the same thing, that would be a double standard, that's what a double standard is. Let me pose you the same hypothetical except with humans, it's a topic that needs to be considered with maturity. Two men walk into your small little gas station, one a disheveled looking white guy, the other a disheveled look…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:57 PM
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Merrian-Webster definition of superficial: Definition of superficial 1 a (1) : of, relating to, or located near a surface (2) : lying on, not penetrating below, or affecting only the surface superficial wounds a : concerned only with the obvious or apparent : shallow b : seen on the surface : external c : presenting only an appearance without substance or significance So how are "looks" not superficial? Keep in mind the hypothetical here, it's an average looking guy (We can assume is just as wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:36 PM
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What are you talking about? In this hypothetical they both did literally the same exact thing when approaching. By definition that is a double standard. There weren't two different situation, two different people, sure, but that's the point of a double standard. By OP's description the only difference is the average looking guy was, well... average looking and had no jaw. The attractive looking guy was attractive. He was tall, lean, and even had a bit of muscle on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/18 05:31 PM
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It's shit advice to say someone who is nerdy should start dressing thug-like. Even worse when you go "See this is why you're an incel" the moment someone points out why that's a bad idea. This is the kind of advice you normally see given, shit that's impractical and made with no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 08:07 PM
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I edited my comment with an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 05:12 PM
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When the advice you're given is shit you're gonna dismiss it. For example take this comment thread I was in. This kind of halfhearted ""advice"" seems to be common in my experience" and so it's hard for me to accept this idea that incels are just incapable of taking advice. No they can take advice yall just give bad advice that wouldn't work out because it's bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 05:08 PM
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Just regular introversion can make it pretty difficult though. You don't know how to flow conversations into a way romantically -- you don't really know how to make people romantically interested in you in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 03:43 PM
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You're cherry picking bud. I tried to implement everything from anything I consumed that was comedic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 12:24 PM
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I wouldn't want to lose all my feelings. At that point i'd rather just fucking kill myself, it's basically the same exact thing. If I could choose to just lose the desire for sex and intimacy I would totally go for it because i'm not getting that anyways, but losing all feelings? I don't see why would you ever want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:33 AM
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In his case, if according to his current frame he won’t be able to get a decent women working these jobs, then he won’t get one. Oh okay, so if I just dellude myself into thinking "Working this shitty job women will make women like me" they suddenly will start liking me... Nah, not how that works. Many people dellude themselves into thinking that doing certain things will get them women, but it doesn't mean they will get laid. It's not an anime or some shit, you can't "just believe" and then sud…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/18 02:27 AM
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I don't think you read the "And tried to implement them in real life" part. I've done that, i've interacted with people -- hell i've interacted with people more than i've submersed myself in all that comedy material, hasn't made me witty or funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 05:16 PM
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Where would you get it then? Does it just come from within?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 05:13 PM
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Not on topic with OP's question, but counterpoint to the articles premise; most incels lack motivation and struggle with depression. So clearly not having sex isn't really motivating men, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:04 PM
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Dear normies; Just becoming witty and funny isn't really possible. You can submerse yourself in hundreds of hours of comedy specials, comedy TV, and banter filled talk shows and try to implement that IRL (I would know, i've tried) but it's never gonna click. Get a new set of advice. Also side note; it's far easier to be perceived as funny and witty when you're already attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 03:28 PM
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No one is ever saying you don't exist, just that the type of woman you are is so rare that you might as well not exist. No one can plan on running into the type of girl that is okay with virgins and that will actively give out obvious signals to guys who are socially awkward. That's why I hate when women post here like "Well I like really socially awkward guys because i find them cute so your point is invalid" when you know full well you're in such a small minority that you might as well not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/18 04:11 AM
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Changing your mindset won't magically get you laid or in a relationship. So long as you can't dispute his worldview as being incorrect then you can't say his mindset is holding him back, because in that worldview it doesn't matter what mindset he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 03:03 PM
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Okay then why say it's all about being a hard worker? Clearly it's not, you need personality like that user said. I don't understand all of these attempts by people to pretend like personality and looks aren't the two biggest things you need, and instead point the finger at a bunch of other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/18 03:00 PM
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Ooh ooh, Jammerly let me be your Omega experience (Or incel experience, whichever I am)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 03:24 PM
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nobody needs your public service announcement It's always helpful to have a reminder not to get too easily jaded by posts on the internet. PPD would lead me to believe that all women are sluts and are proud of it tbh. Also, the only women that exist are party girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 01:55 AM
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You're only proving my point -- I don't want to look thuggish, that's not a good solution to my problems. That would affect more than my romantic life negatively, and again, that's just not me. You ever heard of a thug who plays videogames and watches anime? The only girls that would suddenly gain an interest in a thug version of me are exactly the kind of girls I have no chemistry with. Just because you suggested a change it doesn't mean it's a realistic one. If you're not gonna put forth the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 10:06 PM
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Because most men are not virgins The average man is not an incel or a virgin. I didn't say the average man is a virgin, I said if a man is average or below average he is more likely to be a virgin. Lots of rappers or thug type of guys are not physically striking but their appearance of muscular + tank top, tattoos, pierced ears, sun glasses etc gives off a tough guy look. That ain't me though. This is why I find it so useless to take your advice here because you're telling me and other incels to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 12:15 PM
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Honestly though, I wouldn't be trying to meet people at bars if you are sexually inexperienced. That isn't quite the right type of environment for one to explore their sexuality imo. If you're not in college where would you go then? Everyone's generic response is generally "Go to a club/bar" but what other places are there where it's socially acceptable to flirt with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:29 AM
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find an older woman who would be turned on by deflowering a young man. They exist in spades. Maaaan, that sounds hot. Where they at?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 03:28 AM
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No, but there is a false idea that if a man looks average or below he is more likely to be an incel. How is that not true? If a man looks average or below average he is more likely to be a virgin, I don't know how you can disagree with that but then go on to say that looks do affect whether or not you get attention. I'd agree with you that most incels aren't incels solely due to looks (There are most certainly those who are, like that one guy who was kind of the poster boy for /r/incels) and yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/18 12:35 AM
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You think most incels are above average? Most people that post pictures on subs like /r/foreveralone are the ones somewhat confident in their appearance, and even then a lot look average. There's plenty that just look below average or flat out ugly. So you admit that looks does affect whether or not you'll get attention? I know i'm sure as hell not getting tattoos, I don't even run in the kind of circles to know where to get one, least not a good one. You're starting from a POV that's already un…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 08:58 PM
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Most incels are average to ugly, which is enough for girls to not give you attention at all, Rodgers is the exception being handsome. Most incels also aren't mass shooters, so maybe lets not assume most incels are represented by ER.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 05:41 PM
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Some may be approached and talked to by random women, most don't. Women aren't approaching and chatting up random uggos. I've certainly never had that happen to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/18 12:04 PM
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Alright, thanks, I genuinely appreciate the help. I usually find myself hopeless, but I think this year i'm going to give a concerted effort to specifically try and find girls into the same nerdy hobbies and interests as me, or at least girls who would be okay with those nerdy hobbies/interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 04:04 PM
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I was never gonna do that to him. Maybe it could have been better in the long run for him, but i'm not the type to give tough love like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 02:45 PM
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I do remember one time when I was a college freshman. I was eating alone in the dorm cafeteria -- as usual -- a girl sat down and started to talk to me Incels don't even get this opportunity though. That's the problem with more normal people trying to give incels advice, they don't quite realize that most incels don't even have small experiences like this that might give just a little bit of confidence to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:54 AM
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Other than myself, my brother is one, and I think my best friend might be one. My best friend hasn't done anything too wrong. He's 6 ft 3, not bad looking honestly, and isn't a sperg socially. It's just clear he's scared of rejection. The only advice I gave him was to ask this one girl he liked out to prom back in high school because it was clear she would have 100% said yes, even if that relationship never led to anything. I honestly blame myself a bit because it feels like he just followed my …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:51 AM
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I'll give it a shot. I'm actually going back to school next year after having taken a break to focus solely on getting some $$$ so maybe i'll have success there (Probably not though, the Uni I was going to didn't really have a lot of the "nerdy" types).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 06:31 AM
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She's too cute though, any of those type of cosplay girls are too cute, they'd be out of my league. Also she's a lesbian. Her and her girlfriend's Utena cosplays are dope though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/18 02:51 AM
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Yeah, you have my empathy there, I don't think abusive isolating tactics like that are good, and can harm a teen boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 06:07 PM
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That would imply that most red pills are incels, which they're not. If you're getting laid then you're succeeding at red pill ideology. Blue Pill acts like getting laid and getting into romantic relationships is easy for men, but then acts like most Red Pills cant do either. Make up your minds. It shouldn't be hard to believe that most RP are successful once they put in effort to follow RP ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 06:05 PM
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Huh. Well that kind of sexual predation I don't think is okay. Again though, i'd really like to see studies on this so I can just take a completely firm stance on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 06:01 PM
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Where is all of this coming from? Personal experience? Anecdotes from other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:49 PM
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Hm, I guess if all else fails i'll give this a shot some day. It'll be hard finding an excuse for pming a girl on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:14 PM
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How do you think these events actually play out? I don't know exactly, just like how any other sexual experience plays out?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:11 PM
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Where would you even find these women who do like nerds though? TRP always tells you how and where to find the stacies, but I don't like party girls -- least I don't feel I would be compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:10 PM
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Man, when do the questions stop and the discussion begins? I think it makes it sounds more predatory because "seduction" is just getting the other person to attract you, just like in any normal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 05:00 PM
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I guess I just don't understand how you'd start a romantic relationship on an online forum that isn't already geared towards dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:58 PM
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I see nothing wrong with that, calling it seduction makes it sound more predatory than it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:54 PM
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Not sure Reddit counts, I was thinking of the old traditional forums. Not sure you can exactly meet women to date here either tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:48 PM
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If you're coerced then you were raped. Period. Not statutory, that's just rape. I don't think hot teachers are saying to their students "I'm going to flunk you if you don't fuck me". They don't need to say that. The student is a horny teenager and she's a hot woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:39 PM
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Incels are virgins who almost always never had any past romanctic experiences so you definitely didn't date one from your descriptions. I usually find when people here say they "gave incels a chance" they're just referring to men who are in the middle of a dry spell, never actual incels. Incels are unattractive, no one is going to "give them a chance" to see what's behind the exterior.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:37 PM
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I believe so, yes. I can't imagine a reason why the act itself would be traumatic, it's not painful and you consented to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:20 PM
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I just don't know, it feels like it might just be a large difference in personal experience. I won't say you're wrong per se. You'd be right in saying that most black women are only interested in men with masculine, alpha traits, but I just don't share you experience with white women caring less about alpha traits. I can't speak for Asian women though, Asians aren't common at all where I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:13 PM
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How do you define consent? A yes. I think the legal definition of consent is a different thing all together, but in terms of general consent, a yes should be all that is necessary, or not a "No." from a conscious, sober person. Do you believe that it's traumatic for female victims of statutory rape? If so, why? Yeah, because society views it as different. A girl who fucks a teacher isn't praised or encouraged for it, they're viewed as slutty, and they themselves will view themselves a slut and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:10 PM
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Beta males should never go for black women, unless they are black women "who try to act white". Eh? I can only agree to an extent. I think that most black women value hyper-masculinity a lot, but i'd assume the same would be true for white/asian women, no? The OP liking beta traits is an exception regardless of her race. Jammerly would be in the majority of women regardless of her race too. I'm black myself so I can only feel comfortable aiming for dating black women (Even if i'm entirely unsucc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:58 PM
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Fuck off with your bullshit. Don't get all emotional and shit, i'm not even particularly grounded in my stance on this topic, but you'll need a little bit more to convince me than some guy trying to make a heartbreaking video on youtube. If you want to debate then debate properly. He consented to have sex, what about that was traumatic? I can't understand what the problem is here. He wasn't violated, he wasn't abused, he didn't have some innocence ripped away from him. He had sex with a woman he…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:49 PM
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Again, i'm not saying that female-on-male statutory rape is good, just that it's not as serious as a lot of Reddit thinks it needs to be taken. The only thing that can convince me otherwise is studies on the mental trauma one might get from being a victim of female-on-male statutory rape, then I would give in. But some random video that's supposed to ooze pathos doesn't really do it for me. Like he said, he was the coolest kid ever for banging that hot teacher, society thinks what happened to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:28 PM
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I don't think message boards and chat rooms exist anymore my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 02:51 PM
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If my dick is the only dick I've seen, how do I know it's big? How can I know other males don't have the same experiences? If your dick is the only one you've seen how can you know it's small? I kind of realize how I figured out so early that I don't have a micropenis. When people make fun of the idea of having a small dick they don't go and "Your dick is this big |_____________|" They go "You've got a litttle bloop |_|". That type of joking and teasing that would make you insecure that you have…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 01:08 PM
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Many are not aware because they don't have dick comparison contests with their male friends. Neither have I. You can only know it's big in comparison to what you know is small I know a dick constantly touching the toilet bowl and being difficult to hide in your pants when you got an erection is a big dick. A dick the size of your hand is big. I'm a fucking virgin and I know what a big dick looks like without research, I can't imagine guys going out with an 8 inch schlong thinking they have a mic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:56 PM
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The original commenter implied that the reason a lot of guys are getting turned down for "models" is because they're going for Stacies, which is why I said "Where are the boring women at", because that must mean i'm only approaching Stacies despite not feeling like they are that kind of girl. Basically, I think the assumption that guys getting rejected by women are shooting for the stars is a ridiculous assumption that assumes most average girls want someone on their level too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:37 PM
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The average age for virginity loss is around 17, so you're still just Joe Schmoe if you lose your virginity at 16, I don't know what can be more normie than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:34 PM
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False according to who? Again, i've got what I can only assume is in the top 20% of sizes, no research done into it, but I know that it's big. You're cock isn't going to seem small to you when it's literally the size of your hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:33 PM
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Honestly, I doubt those same "boring" women would want a "boring" man either if i'm still single. I've approached plenty of girls, and I really don't try and go for the Stacy types (Both because i'm not compatible with that type of person, and because they're out of my league) so I imagine i've tried to go for the boring women and i've failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:30 PM
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Where they at tho. I don't want Stacy either tbh. So show me where these mystical "boring" women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:33 AM
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I think they are still a victim though, I just don't think female-on-male statutory rape is as serious as male-on-female statutory rape just because of how the minds of a teenage boy and a teenage girl differ. Is it something that should be against the law? Yes. Is it an extremely traumatizing event? Probably not for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 04:01 AM
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A victim of statutory rape obviously shouldn't have to pay child support. The adult in the situation takes all responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 03:36 AM
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Somewhat shy and risk averse? Yeah, i'd probably be better as a woman. I'm not attracted to men and I like being a man though, so if I had to reroll I would stay with male and hope I roll better on look stats and social acuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:34 AM
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IMO if you look good with make up, then you look good without it too. Granted I don't have too much personal experience with seeing girls with and without their makeup, but i've seen plenty of women go shopping at the grocery story for example without any makeup on and they still look good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:32 AM
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Nope. Porn means that every guy (no matter his size) effectively has a micro penis. Huh? Maybe if you're like 4 inches or 5 inches long you might think your penis is shorter than it is, but I don't even know the average penis length off the top of my head but I would never be insecure of mine. If you have a big dick you'll know it without needing to research into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:02 AM
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I think being both 6 feet tall and having an 8 inch dick has their own advantages. As an incel with a 7 inch dick, i've never felt insecure about cock length. The problem is that having a long dick doesn't mean you'll actually get a girl -- it's not getting any girls wet on its own nor does it have an opportunity to be shown. But if I had a chance to show my goods I can totally see it being advantageous in keeping a girl around for more sex. That's not going to make me more confident in courting…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/18 12:01 AM
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Never understood the sentiment that "Female-On-Male Statutory Rape needs to be taken more seriously!" thing. If I got to have sex with one of the pretty teachers at my school i'd fucking love it. Yeah, there's probably victims who do feel defiled in some way, but for most men they don't care. Men and women are different, our expectations in society are different. While a woman is more expected to have one partner or remain pure in some way, so having sex with an older man at a young age might be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 11:28 PM
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The point is that nothing can be concluded from this, but terps will do so anyway. You're not even making an argument for why nothing can be concluded from it. If you concede that if you do the experiment yourself, and it does show up with the same/similar results, then doesn't that prove that something can be concluded from this?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:10 PM
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Gonna copy and paste my reply to another comment in the thread. I don't think you can make any generalizations about women at all from an "experiment" like this. I think that the idea behind it is that because even five very attractive looking women went straight for it suggests that women care far more about looks than they let on. If the same incel who made that tinder account made a real account he wouldn't get a single response despite probably being a much better human being than the bait p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:08 PM
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That certainly can't be concluded from this experiment. Five women took the bait but that only shows five women in the world are like that. Without some way to gauge how many women didn't take the bait, it's pretty meaningless. I think that the idea behind it is that because even five very attractive looking women went straight for it suggests that women care far more about looks than they let on. If the same incel who made that tinder account made a real account he wouldn't get a single respons…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 10:07 PM
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Maybe many people do, the average man apparently loses their virginity at 16.9 (So you're definitely not an incel if you're having sex at 16, you're just an average normie), but point is it shouldn't be possible to consider a minor an incel unless we consider all children incels too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 09:56 PM
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Why do I have to do your homework for you? Search it up, learn about the origins of inceldom and those whom identify it. Involuntary Celibacy is a term that should be self-explanatory, but if you want further information then you can do that little bit of homework.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 09:52 PM
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I meant that at that age you're not necessarily able to be an incel, you're just barely even legal to have sex let alone expected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:30 PM
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The only people who calls themselves incels aren't the toxic kind as I said, you cant just handwave the actual definition of incel and redefine it to "People I dislike"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 06:28 PM
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How can you be a 16 y/o incel...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:55 PM
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Definitonally most of them are incels, they'll often use the acronym KHV -- Kissless Hugless Virgin instead, (though there are plenty of FA who call themselves incels despite not being the kind of toxic hateful person /r/incels was comprised of, i would know i'm one of those FA incels) regardless of if they call themselves incels or not, they're the same group of virgins commented on in the OP comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:46 PM
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incel is someone who would still be a toxic blaccpill pile of shit even if some girl gave him a chance. That's a mischaracterization of the term "incel". An incel is literally just someone who remains a virgin despite having attempts at losing his virginity. You're conflating the more niche incel community that existed on Reddit (And I guess still exists in the form of /r/braincels) as being representative of inceldom as a whole. Something like /r/ForeverAlone for example houses a lot of categor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/18 02:11 PM
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Oh, now this post makes more sense to me. Guys over at /r/ForeverAlone would never act like this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/18 01:54 PM
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I kind of get the worries about hygiene, I know my brother for example has absolutely shit hygiene and doesn't seem to realize that not showering for multiple days will make you stink. I remember when he was in high school he used to wear cologne, but it was like, bro, just take a fucking shower everyday. On the other hand most of us already have basic hygiene down. Just take a shower everyday, brush your teeth, wash your clothes, in fact, wash your ass -- none of that is difficult. So it's weir…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/18 03:54 PM
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I'm sad and alone and i'm not a TRPer ;(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/18 04:01 AM
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Then I beg the question again, when is it okay to give up? Or is it just never okay to give up?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:25 PM
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Nah, that two year difference is big in this case considering how much experience people get in their early going in college. If you're 20 (Nearly turning 21) without romantic experience, you're solidly a huge minority and you know that. Again, you can't pull the age thing since you considered it abnormal to get your first GF at 17 -- that's still high school kid age. I'm not even in college and i've yet to do things less than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:48 PM
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How I am now didn't retroactively cause me to be the way I am, that's paradoxical thinking. Just because i've given up at 20 doesn't mean I had given up at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:33 PM
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You consider yourself "Not normal" and yet even you had a girlfriend by 17, and apparently some intimacy with girls before then. You don't get to pull the "But you're so young!" statement now considering i'm 20 without a single meaningful interaction with the opposite gender. There's a big gulf of difference between being 20 with no romantic experience, and being 17 with no romantic experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 12:30 PM
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You're younger than me and you're seriously giving up already? When is it okay to give up, when i'm older than you? Try not to age next year then please. Oh sure, all those "muh genetics make me doooomed!" threads just scream "I'm trying." And those "Tried to ask a girl out but was promptly rejected" threads don't? I don't care how you feel. I'm simply pointing out I factually did not attack you as an individual. If you say "Black people are stupid monkeys" in a conversation with a black person,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/18 01:39 AM
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First of all how old are you? That's important for this discussion. 20 going on to 21 in a couple of months. They claim it's "involuntary" but yet they somehow spend all their time whining, blaming others for their problems, and acting like victims while doing nothing to help themselves. Venting on an online forum is not mutually exclusive from trying to find a relationship. Many do both at once, as evidenced with posts that update about failures, or even the odd one out that is a success story.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 02:36 PM
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I bet your life has been normal by these standards as well. Nope. Never had any intimacy with women, not even so much as hand holding, and i've never seen a woman with any interest in me either. Just last year I was a NEET that didn't leave the house for 3 months until I landed the job I have right now. I don't know how you made the assumption that by my own standards my life would be normal. If you think my definition of what makes someone "not normal" is too strict then I don't think you've re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 01:52 PM
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Pushing past a no is still factually assertive, and clearly you're confident enough to pull it off. You may not like it and see the concept as desperate, but that doesn't change the fact that it is an assertive and confident action on part of the man. Again, to me it sounds as though it's the logical conclusion of being confident and assertive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 04:04 AM
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Gonna copy and paste a comment I made under the automod to a thread earlier. It's widely accepted here, regardless of pill or ideology, that women want assertive, confident men. Why is it then that some women here also think that "no" is not negotiable? Isn't the point of an assertive man that he's willing to push past the boundaries you set up, at least a little bit? In that case "No is negotiable" seems like a logical conclusion to that, men should ignore "no" until it becomes an emphatic "No!…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/18 03:00 AM
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It's widely accepted here, regardless of pill or ideology, that women want assertive, confident men. Why is it then that some women here also think that "no" is not negotiable? Isn't the point of an assertive man that he's willing to push past the boundaries you set up, at least a little bit? In that case "No is negotiable" seems like a logical conclusion to that, men should ignore "no" until it becomes an emphatic "No!" because that's what women want and that's how men will get what they want. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 03:32 PM
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I'm not playing Opression Olympics with you either, i'm just saying your definition of "normal" is being unfairly skewed to make a point that other people don't have an excuse. You know full well that getting your first "real" girlfriend at 17 is normal, you know that having insecurities as a teenager is normal, you know that supposedly having had intimate relationships with girls before 17 is the most normie thing you can do -- you're just arguing in bad faith. In reality you have very little i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 02:56 PM
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That's not a "no true scotsman" argument, i'm basing this idea solely off the actual definition of an incel. Involuntary is the key word here isn't it? I don't agree that you need to take up TRP to get laid The guy said he had to, and thus you the viewer have to use game, which is a TRP/PUA concept isn't it? If I assume the guy in the video is correct, then i'd be having to go down a TRP/PUA road to get laid. I don't agree that every "ugly" person is socially isolated, has no social skills and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:50 PM
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I didn't have a real girlfriend until I was 17 So you had some type of girlfriend before then? Either way, a girlfriend at 17 seems pretty normie to me. It's normal to be a bit of a wreck in your high school years, everyone has their insecurities at that time in life, and having a relationship while you're still in high school kind of proves my point that you are what all incels would consider a normie. My assumptions weren't outlandish and it seems as though you're proving me right with this co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:30 PM
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What I doubt is the notion that "all incels" or even "most incels" regularly approach women on- and offline. Not that "some incels" approach women regularly. Maybe not regularly approach them, most incels have given up at this point. But have approached multiple women in the past? Definitely most have, because again, if they haven't they're not incels. Either way, most wouldn't give up without having put in effort at some point. is sounds like a cliché phrase but I recently saw a great video to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 01:18 AM
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1) How did you know he was an incel? 2) What exactly is a TRP type incel? 3) How did it go?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/18 12:35 AM
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Based on what? Definitionally incels are people who try but fail to have sex, the ones on these forums say they try and approach, you can find many anecdotes and stories of them having tried and failed, so what are you basing this "incels don't approach" nonsense off of? It sounds like you're just being too stubborn to admit that the world doesn't treat everyone the same. You can approach women all you want, if you're unattractive you won't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 06:57 PM
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Okay then? So there are thus two valid interpretations of what incels are, why do you choose to focus on the one that's far more extreme but also more niche? Is it a desire to try your hardest to villainize inceldom and remove any nuance from the topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 04:33 PM
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Not as if i'm identifying with an incel cause or anything, it's just that I am by definition an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:43 PM
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Stop looking at /r/incels or Sluthate.com (I haven't even seen the latter site), they're the minority of this already small minority. Look at somewhere like /r/ForeverAlone which has far more incels and far more incels that are more "normal" and less extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 02:37 PM
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Doesn't matter if we don't have ways to verify every single user that identifies as an incel. If you're an incel then you've tried, if you haven't tried then you're a volcel, there's no way around that. It seems everytime incels get brought up, you people feel the need to pretend like your perspective is the only one that counts. You reject the idea that there are men out there who have approached women, who had tried to court multiple women, but whom have still come up short and are thus still …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 01:56 AM
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I imagine if that is true it's because to be in the kind of mindset we're you're not picky, you might have the kind of self-defeatist mindset that makes you feel as though you need to scrape the bottom of the barrel, which is unattractive. So it's more of a problem with the person rather than having low standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/18 12:29 AM
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There were no goalposts moved, you misinterpreted my argument from the beginning despite my attempts to clarify. This entire argument is me disputing the perception of incels being horrendously maladjusted evil people, that's major. Minor is just having social awkwardness and being ugly. There were no contradictions on my end. You're taking issue with what I consider minor and major rather than what I actually have said is minor and major. Personal experiences matter here. You can't pretend we'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 07:30 PM
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Minor as in not a major mental disease or extreme physical deformity. In most other contexts being ugly and awkward isn't going to hurt you too much. In dating it's a big issue. If their problems are minor they can get over that shit if they make a slight bit of effort. Bullshit. Your own personal and limited perception of how the world works does not override the stories and experiences of many incels who have tried and have failed. The hundreds of stories I can pull up from /r/foreveralone whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:39 PM
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I agree with you that in most cases it is actually mild stuff like social awkwardness. That's really the only thing I wanted to point out since it seems to be commonly accepted here that Incels are just scum of the earth and that's why they're incels, rather than them just being socially awkward. I don't understand the need to villainize incels, you can explain their existence without having to do that, and you can justify disliking them without having to villainize them too. Instead they choose…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:41 PM
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Now go on any incels board like incels.me or /r/braincels and look how they act. Go to /r/Foreveralone and see how they act. Yeah, if you go to the hardcore incel boards you're going to get all freaky types of weirdoes, but /r/ForeverAlone is a much bigger community with people that act a lot less weird. Yeah, you're right that there's probably something wrong with you if you can't get laid. But there doesn't have to be something extremely wrong with you, it can easily be you're just socially aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 01:51 PM
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You know what? I don't really care. If that's your opinion of incels, that's fine. I don't really care to change your opinion on that. My only point was that it's ridiculous to say things like Incels have horrible personalities (As in mean, cruel, or evil, not in the way you're framing us) or that incels are picky, only going for model women. Those are the ideas of incels being horrible people I was arguing against. If you think incels are horrible because they supposedly "allow" themselves to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:57 AM
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Wow, stepping in deep with those assumptions there, champ. You see why I hate discussing my own personal experiences as an incel? I can give you my whole life story, but it won't stop you from making the assumption that i'm a miserable, horrible person in real life. Because in your world view some quiet, somewhat below average looking guy that can be kind when talked to, can't be a virgin without actually having shitty human traits that he's not revealing about himself. You've made your conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:12 AM
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The point of my comment wasn't to invite advice and all that, i've been through this song and dance on Reddit too many times and i'm tired of it. The only point I wanted to make in my comment is that incels aren't even mostly the type of unsavory types users here like to make us out to be, and we're not extremely picky either. All it takes are any of those things I mentioned earlier, being physically ugly, being timid, being socially awkward, being boring. You don't have to be horrible to be an …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 06:01 AM
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Point taken. I'm not a statistical outlier (Definitionally no one who is a virgin is, even at age 50) but i'm definitely in a small minority, which again is not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:33 AM
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That's literally not true though. 85.7% of guys my age in the USA have lost their virginity, making me in the bottom 14.3%, a pretty big statistical outlier. That's not normal. That's not even considering the fact that i've never had a girlfriend -- never even so much as kissed or held hands with a girl. How is that normal? The point i'm making here is that it's not difficult to slip through the cracks and end up an incel despite not being a villain like a lot of users here try to paint all ince…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 05:02 AM
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Nonsense. You can rationalize inceldom without villainizing it. You ever seen the guys at /r/foreveralone? Most of those guys are what someone here described as "Blue Pill Incels" guys who are deathly afraid of being viewed as creepy, and whom believe that they should feel bad for wanting to be in a relationship. You don't have to be a horrible person that's also punching far above their weight class to be an incel. Hey, I can tell you, i'm a 20 year old virgin who definitely doesn't have very h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 04:22 AM
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Yeah because their personalities are batshit insane. Why are hand waves like this considered valid arguments to anyone lol. A guy can be completely fit and still not be attractive to women, whether that be because they're physically quite ugly or because they're just timid or boring people in general. It doesn't take being an extreme shithead to not be attractive to women, people here admit that all the time that all women just don't find certain types of guys attractive at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/18 03:55 AM
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Wealth or people apart of "the fight club" aren't common though. Blue pillers assert that casual sex is easy for guys, meaning it must be pretty common, so it only stands to reason that at least most of the guys sharing their experience are telling the truth. After all, if casual sex for men is easy, than it's not as if guys getting casual sex are some social elite that wouldn't ever, ever post on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/18 03:38 AM
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Yeah, I agree with that, and in a PPD thread that's something 100% worth making a point about. It's a shame that it can't really be discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 10:48 PM
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Are we? Or are you saying we CAN be? Because I would agree with both points, that white men can be shitty to black women and black men can be shitty to white women. Remove the can and you've got a wrong statement that's just racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 10:43 PM
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I agree with you that they're not hideous (Least not Horn's wife) but they're at a 4/10 or below. They're far below what you'd expect rich men to date given that they're rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 10:28 PM
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In both cases it's about how much money they're pulling. Both guys are making millions but sticking with women who honestly don't look too great. The OP of this comment thread asked for examples of rich men dating ugly/poor women, and there you go. They don't look good and probably don't have jobs given the money their men make, so these very fit and very rich men are dating out of shape, (and probably) poor women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 10:16 PM
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There are definitely a couple. Victor Martinez, the Detroit Tiger's first baseman, is dating down pretty low with his wife. Jeff Horn, current WBA Welterweight Boxing champ that beat Pacquiao last summer, is dating pretty far down himself -- granted his wife isn't butt ugly or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 08:24 PM
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I don't feel like fact checking that, but it's irrelevant anyways. We're never discussing how teenagers act when it comes to dating, at best maybe 18, 19 year olds, but for the most part the SMP is consistent of 20+ year olds. Any experience exclusive to teens in a major outlier that is irrelevant to any conversation on SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:39 AM
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That's stupid. It's not racism to want your children to look like you, to have your extended family to be the same skin tone as you and come from the same culture as you. Not to mention there are a plethora of other reasons why you would want to marry within your own race. The racial identity of your own child, the weirdness of interacting with someone's family who is probably biased against you in some way, hell the cultural barrier with your SO would be a huge one that would be tough to break.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:28 AM
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I agree with you. The entire point of this comment thread is me disputing the inane idea that women have extremely low standards, let alone lower standards than men. There's is no universe where the average woman needs to settle for a man who can't even wipe his own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:13 AM
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How teenagers feel is completely irrelevant to the sexual market though. They're not on the market, how can they represent the average female? Better yet, you're talking about how men apparently are dumb and lack basic hygiene, but all this time i've been thinking how that sounds more like a child than an adult. Now it all makes sense, you're talking about teenagers, not adults here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 04:11 AM
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Again, that sounds like a load of bullshit speaking on a level of women on average. Women on average have high standards, I doubt you would even scrape that low again since by now you should know that there are PLENTY of single men who are better than that, so obviously you too have higher standards now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/18 12:23 AM
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You don't have to scrape that low to date a man who is kind lol. I don't buy these anecdotes where you HAVE to date men who cant even do basic hygiene because of a lack of options. I know plenty of virgin guys who are nice and shower daily, even more who are just single. Ya'll are either being extremely hyperbolic or lying out your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:52 PM
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And I can bet you that they're not. Most are just too shy to be able to escalate, in other words they lack the necessary assertiveness I mentioned in my previous comment. I don't get why you have such a dark image of what incels are like. Every single reasoning you give is this evil reason for why they cant get laid, as though you cant admit women have standards that prevent these guys from succeeding romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 09:47 PM
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That's irrelevant because these guys aren't trying to pick up girls using their Reddit accounts, they wouldn't know anything about their posts on /r/incels. Plenty of incels are employed, simply being a hard workers isn't going to get panties wet on you're own. Through trying to justify the lack of romance for a lot of men in a way that's just in your eyes, you've managed to ignore the things that women do want that these guys don't have; looks, assertiveness and charisma to tie it all together.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 06:57 PM
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That first sentence is bullshit. Incels definitely try, that's a defining feature of being an incel. If you've never tried to put yourself out there then they consider you a Volcel. As opposed to say, /r/ForeverAlone where there are plenty of guys who don't try to pursue women (Though plenty are in situations to meet them, look at the recent "Talking to the other sex" thread where two of the most upvoted comments were about how they can regularly interact with women just fine, but can never get …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 03:10 PM
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Again, absolute bullshit. There's plenty of guys who are open to relationships and aren't chasing girls for casual sex who just find getting into a relationship impossible. Women don't have this extremely low standard for a relationship like you're trying to say. The idea that a woman who has all these choices in men cant find a fully functioning adult who wipes his ass, brushes his teeth and showers is ridiculous. Over half the guys over on /r/incels and /r/foreveralone do that, and yet none of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 02:04 PM
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Lol, that all sounds like a load of horse shit to me. If women's standards were so low then incels wouldn't exist, at least they certainly wouldn't be so overwhelmingly male. There's no argument for female standards being lower than male standards given the difficulty men face in the dating scene. And there is definitely no argument for women's standards on the whole being so low that you and /u/damaskrose's scenarios where girls cant even get their men to wipe their butts and brush their teeth …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 05:16 AM
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What level of "fuckable" are you talking about? Are you talking about 7/10 men rejecting 6/10 women in favor of going after 9's or 10's? Because below that level men don't even get approached to get the chance to reject women, let alone still hold delusions of grandeur about landing a 10/10 model.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 02:08 PM
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They just don't want to date their equals. They want to pump and dump them lmao That's a generalization based on what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 01:38 PM
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I'll consider looking at TRP and all that, it just feels like overkill to me to have to read literature and watch videos to get girls. When other people, even the non-super chad type guys are getting girls seemingly effortlessly, it doesn't feel like I should need to go that far for it myself y'know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 03:37 PM
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I've never had a girlfriend so I figure step 1 to solving that would just be getting friends of the opposite gender so i'm more comfortable talking to women. I think through asking this question i've learned that it's not all that rare for guys to never have had female friends, I thought it was, so now I guess maybe making female friends isn't all that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:54 PM
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then go talk to women. I mean, you know the problem and the solution. What else would you want from other people? I don't know how to do that though, which is why i'm here. I obviously don't want to just go up to and start talking to random women, and even then that wouldn't just make me friends with them. I guess it's a bit more of an abstract question than I first thought, but I don't know how to make friends with them. I guess I should be asking first, just how do I make friends? Making frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:39 PM
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Read literature I didn't expect to get that after all that about masculinity. I dunno man, i'm confident enough in my masculinity that I don't feel that's the problem. I'm already confident when i'm talking to other guys for the most part, that's what IS easy to me, hanging in there with the bantz with other guys is second nature to me. Hell, I if anything I used to have more a abrasive personality when it came to interacting with other guys, always going for mean-spirited banter first rather th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 02:16 PM
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I've seen not-so-attractive guys make female friends before. I'm as pessimistic as the next guy, but even I think you're over doing it a tad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 01:42 PM
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Oh, then I guess i'm already at 1 friend and I haven't even gotten to the trying part. I guess i'm just a natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/18 04:59 AM
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Thanks. You're completely right that I should step out of my comfort zone by talking to guys on my own first, that should probably be step 1 before I try doing the same with women. I think I could totally try something like judo or even joining a cooking class. Thanks again, these are the kind of ideas I was hoping to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 01:25 PM
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What an asinine reply. Don't give advice to people, you're not even trying yet are telling me to try and change my entire lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:56 AM
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Lol I don't gotta change my entire personality to make friends of the opposite gender. That always seems to be the solution on this subreddit. Wanna so much as talk to the other gender? CHANGE YOUR ENTIRE PERSONALITY AND LIFESTYLE RIGHT NOW!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/18 02:54 AM
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I don't want to give up what is me to gain friends. Not as though i'm against feminine hobbies, there's just none I can think of that I have any interest in atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 11:15 PM
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Alright PPD, I think its been awhile since i've posted here, but I have an incel related question for all of you. How exactly do nerdy, and possibly shy guys, make female friends? I'm asking this because I realized that throughout all my life, I have not once made a single friend of the opposite gender. Not even one. I've had plenty of friends who are guys, I still do have friends in fact, that's one area where i'm not a complete failure socially. But with girls i'm clueless. My first guess as t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 05:53 PM
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/r/anime_irl has a bunch. I mean, obviously that's not what the sub is about, but the idea of a subreddit dedicated to relatable anime screenshots on Reddit will naturally have a lot of us who feel that way, but somehow anime_irl remains a very wholesome place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/18 06:12 AM
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millions of people move all over the world every year looking for new opportunities, a fresh start, a mate etc. Fair enough, and you certainly have a unique perspective to me in that regard. But for me and many other people I know, that's not normal. I'm African American and my family is rooted in America, specifically the east coast, so if I were told to go fly to some other country and start a new life there I personally wouldn't know how to do it, nor would I really be willing. And I feel a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 06:00 PM
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youre talking about IMMIGRANTS, people whos PARENTS and GRANDPARENTS cme here often with nothing and no english to make a new life, why are their children unable to fly to india for a year and find a fucking wife. i mean are you literally insane? Umm, you know that not all Asian and Indian Americans are recent immigrants right? Like, there are a large amount of Asians and Indians that are third generation and farther, right? They'd be so disconnected with their country of origin they wouldn't ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 05:49 PM
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Then just don't give any advice. I don't know what's so hard about that? I regularly ignore threads I have absolutely no interest in. You would think by now some of you more cynical and jaded posters would automatically ignore anything that sounds even a bit incel-ish if you're so jaded to the point of giving them an impossible task.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:58 PM
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I completely agree and that's what i've been saying. Advice like "Move to India" shouldn't be taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:53 PM
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Because it was such a ridiculous connection I assumed you didn't mean for me to take it seriously, clearly I was wrong. I dunno, if you were having trouble with romantic issues and I told you to go on a boat to some third world country/developing nation and then fuck & marry the first person you see, would you take that advice seriously just because historically some women did it? Probably not, but you're speaking from a place of privilege in the first place aren't you? You're already married, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:51 PM
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you mean to tell me an indian incel cant move to modern india to find a wife? Oh lawdy. Tell me, is this the same advice you gave to incels before you became so cynical? Or is this a product of you not caring anymore? Because honestly, I don't know in what world it's reasonable advice to tell someone to move all the way across the world, learn a new language, and try to fit into another culture in hopes of finding someone who loves them. I really don't. If this is the advice you've been giving t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:29 PM
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You're ignoring my point though -- when your advice is so outlandish and impossible as the one /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin has offered, then there's really no point to be bitching and complaining about incels not taking your advice. Either give good advice or give none, there's no middle ground. They'll fuck off to some hole somewhere if no one is giving them attention here. Instead you validate their threads while also providing nothing useful to the discussion yourself by commenting with useless, thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:21 PM
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i have offered up 100s of "reasonable solutions" over the years in here, all met with fatalistic whining "i cant!" " i dont like bars!" " but i have to be a computer programmer!" "drugs and escorts ar eillegal im a good littl eboy who listens to mommy!" Sounds like whining and bitching to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 04:17 PM
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But you'll bitch about incels whining? What a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 03:24 PM
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Then give up lol. I don't know how your experience of being turned away by Incels with any "reasonable" solution you have is an excuse to just give unreasonable solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 03:01 PM
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I acknowledge that, hence why I said a more doable solution would be something like "find people nearby of your race" rather than your solution of "Learn an entirely different language, move across the world, and adapt to a culture you have had minimal exposure to". Again, it just doesn't make sense to accuse incels of being whiny and entitled when you're not even attempting to offer up a reasonable solution. Either try to offer up some genuine help, or don't try to help at all. I don't see why …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:54 PM
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ok theres no solution then. he should give up Your words, not mine. see this is why giving advice to incels is pointless. any change big enough to fix their situation will require great risk and or effort and has a chance of not paying off. trying to help them is pointless. all they want to hear is theres a magic bullet that will let them be their already loathesoem unattractive selves but have HB9s swipe on them on tinder You're not even trying though. Telling someone to change their entire ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:26 PM
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This thread also just exemplifies how bad PPD can be at handling any type of acknowledgement that someone might just have the romantic game stacked against them in the first place. If you're statistically in a huge minority in America and unlikely to find anyone of your race, let alone anyone that would find you attractive? Well too bad, stop crying about it and go to Asia. It's always such an insane leap that red pillers and blue pillers alike often propose as a solution to someone's problem. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:20 PM
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Learn an entirely new language and try to integrate into an entirely different culture. I get the feeling you know you're being unreasonable and dickish, but you wanted to post anyways. Not that moving to a new country would help them, since it would just probably make them an even bigger outsider than if they just stayed in America or whatever western country they're from.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:05 PM
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ITT: Asian Americans should go to Asia and fuck Asians there. What type of fucked shit is that lol? If your solution to someone's romantic problems is "Change your entire life by going to an entirely different country." then you're not really attempting to offer up any actual proper advice, you're just being a dick. Doesn't matter if Indians and Chinese make up a plurality of the Earth's population, if you were born and grew up in America that's not gonna fucking help you. It's like those people…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/17 02:00 PM
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Really who cares what the invisible people do? They were never meant to reproduce anyway. Go ahead and enjoy your extra super hardcore porn if you want lol. I guess the point of your post is to say you don't care what they losers in society do, but for some reason you sound so bitter about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 04:42 AM
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Nah. Whenever I do make friends I usually do through shared interests, but none of the main things I enjoy are "feminine" (Video Games, Anime, and Boxing) so i've never really become friends with anyone of the opposite sex. Most interactions I have with women end at small talk or just as co-workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/17 01:02 PM
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Is it really though? When was it any better than it is now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:46 PM
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I think about 19 or 20 is when the realization starts to kick in though. Only 14% of males are still virgins aged 20-24, and I think arguably you would have had enough experience to know how dismal your romantic life is going to be. When you've gone through Highschool and the early parts of college a KHV it's not difficult to give up, you've been around enough people who have had sex and romantic lives to figure out that you're not normal. Combine that with a naturally reclusive personality and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:47 PM
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Just dont be a creepy guy before you built any attraction lol That's not a helpful statement considering for some guys simply chatting up a girl can be seen as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:50 PM
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This describes my problem a bit, but I think for most guys this mindset is a big mistake. What are they going to do when they are approached and a girl doesn't outright say "Let's fuck right now."? Are they just going to let the chance to flirt back pass them by and it never leads to anything? You're still going to have to end up flirting anyways, you can't be 100% passive. I've thought about this a bit since I am one of those guys who thinks like this, and in the end I realize i'm personally ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:17 PM
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The argument is apparently that sex is a deeply emotional thing therefore that's what makes it immoral, or something like that. I don't know, it sounds like a stupid-ass argument to me, but i've heard it multiple times.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:30 PM
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You can probably imagine how confusing it is for them though, right? You're told to be forward and assertive because no girl will ever explicitly say "let's fugg" but not too forward because that's a turn off, and ultimately they're told it just happens, but what if it just never happens to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:27 PM
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Question: Is it contradictory to say both that "Female prostitution is immoral because the prostitute won't enjoy the act" and that "Women can have the same sex drive as men". Both opinions seem to come from a more feminist mindset, but both seem kind of contradictory to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:49 PM
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It could also just be misreading, I know with social anxiety that can happen a lot, and lo and behold a lot of people such as myself get particularly anxious when talking to women. Granted, I wouldn't apply either of these theories to all incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 09:37 PM
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I'm not normie enough to get my hand on drugs in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 04:12 AM
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Whats the feminist attitude towards n counts and sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 03:37 AM
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I don't think I can agree with this at all. I think being a virgin can make you miserable if you blame all your failures and unhappiness in life on that alone, sure, but I don't think this is what most people do. Take me for example, i'm a kissless, hugless virgin and arguably an incel. But i'm not constantly dwelling on the fact that i'm a virgin. I'll think about it for a bit and get depressed about it sometimes, sure. When I am depressed it will also almost certainly be one of the things I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/17 03:12 PM
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I was specifically referring to /u/cami9x, since she seems to have more of a obsessive hatred of incels that feels reminiscent of how deadset /r/incels or /r9k/ are with whining about the normies non-stop. She can't seem to stop getting into flamewars over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 10:38 PM
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Just beat your meat to hentai every day like me. If you don't give up on women at the very least you'll end up giving up on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:26 PM
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Jesus christ, this exemplifies exactly why I dislike TBP. Nevermind the fact that they're taking this fake 4chan greentext seriously that's meant to be an exaggeration of what that guy thinks is reality, but they're defending it too! They think that somehow all it takes is confidence and social competence and all of a sudden you too will be able to walk up to random women, ask them for their phone number, get it, and they'll fall instantly in love with you. Oh, and if you can't do this? Well the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 07:44 PM
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Why do you have such a passionate hate for incels, have you been wronged by one or something? I just can't imagine someone who seems to go out of her way to express hate for incels on an internet forum and then relish in the reaction she gets is herself a very normal person with an attractive personality. Hell, you sound just as vile and obsessive as the /r/incels or /r9k/ posters you seem to despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:14 PM
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Why not legalize and protect hard drug dealers from violence? False equivalence. The act of prostitution isn't inherently damaging to the people who partake in it, some people may have moral or ethic qualms about it, but on its own it is not a dangerous activity. Hard drugs are clearly very harmful to the user and those around them, no amount of regulation will change that hard fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 04:02 PM
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Just want to point out this comment as a counter point to the idea that "Women don't hate weak men" or alternatively, the idea that people here don't hate incels simply for being incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 03:56 PM
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Sure, that's the optimistic way of looking at it, but when you're 21 and feel like you're the only one who has never even so much as held hands with a girl (Except for your compadres in places like /r/incels) it's frankly difficult to think optimistically. Sounds like a pretty damn solid excuse to me. It's seriously demoralizing to get past your own mental barriers and try to help yourself by going out and doing something to get over your problems only to have your body betray you and send you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 04:32 PM
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Only 14% of males aged 20-24 are virgin, that's how you can give up that early. If you're one of 10 guys in a room, it's statistically likely that you're the only virgin there. It's even worse if you've never been in a relationship or even kissed a girl before. The real killer is if you are apart of that 14% and have social anxiety, because at that point it becomes easier than usual to give up. Speaking from personal experience, it's easy to go out in public and constantly put yourself down and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:21 PM
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Normies all deserve to be round up and thrown in gas chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/17 03:02 PM
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The real MGTOW are the guys who are forgoing long term relationships with women, but are still having casual sexual relationships with them. And most of them eventually come around once they get old enough Isn't that literally not MGTOW? Everything you described there is kind of contradictory to what MGTOW stands for, no? Like maybe they still have casual sex, that makes sense, but then settling down with a woman is kind of the thing that they don't want to do I thought? I got the idea most MGTO…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/17 12:54 AM
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Let me answer that question with a question: You would be way more wary of what you say in an argument with the tall jacked dude than you would against some short scrawny guy, wouldn't you? Tall guy is more confident to start some shit and fight you, short scrawny guy isn't gonna start something with you, and if he does he's not likely to win. Being "creeped on" by guys doesn't give women a good reason to think they're going to get raped I hope you realize what's going on in this scenario -- in …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 06:59 PM
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then I should be afraid of the tall, jacked guy I got into that argument with. You should be. Don't start stuff with strangers that can probably whup you. Your entire comment is weird to me because you act as if you don't react in different ways to people who might present more of a danger to you. If a random meth head tries talking to me randomly on the street i'm gonna react very differently than if some regular guy just starts up a conversation. Psychologically I also feel much less threatene…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 05:04 PM
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He's not saying men are all evil, just that men uniquely present more of a danger to women than women do to men simply because of the biological difference, therefore it's completely warranted for women to have a different reaction to being creeped by a guy than a guy would typically react to being creeped on by a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:30 PM
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The problem you're having is that you think they're saying it's okay for women to be creepy and disregard the personal space of men because men aren't going to have the same fear response, but that's not what they're saying. They're just saying there's a good reason why there's a different reaction when a man is getting way too close and personal with a woman as opposed to a woman getting way too close and personal with a man -- and that's because of the clear biological differences between the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/17 03:27 PM
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If a girl grows a dick and you blow her, is that gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/17 01:27 PM
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"Only real men enjoy getting pegged by their girl" I've seen this said a couple of times, and I think that the people who say this kind of thing think that dom play is far more normal than it really is. I also don't know what drugs you have to be on to think that it's not normal for a man to be against being penetrated with a fake dick, for most people das gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 06:08 PM
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They're the exception. I think I remember there was a study posted here not too long ago that talked about the percentage of men who wouldn't mind be the submissive and the percentage of women who wouldn't mind being dominant, and for the women it was comparatively very low.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 06:04 PM
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Imo if you're a childless freak you can't be RedPill How do you figure that? Putting the use of the phrase "childless freak" aside, i'm not sure how not having children to take care of contradicts with what the RedPill is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/17 01:47 PM
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Yeah, I would say so based off my personal experiences and other anecdotes i've heard from other people. That, or we disagree completely on the terms I used to describe differences between male and female. For example, what would you say is a "typical guy interest", or brash humor and conversational tone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 05:05 AM
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You kind of have to though. This is why I don't really get how everyone in here says that female friends are no different from guy friends. In my experience, girls are a lot more indirect than guys, have very different interests and tastes, and comfortable with different things in terms of humor and conversational tone. Those are some differences off the top of my head that would make having girl friends completely different from having guy friends. Those are generalized, and of course, you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/17 01:33 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:48 PM
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I lean towards Red Pill. None in real life, and only one online friend who is a woman. I've never really had female friends in my life, very few share any of the same interests that I do, and even those that do don't really enjoy them nearly as much as I do or have wildly different tastes. And as much as a giant fucking loser I might do sound saying this, I can't imagine casually talking to women about my interests. The way you interact with guys and girls are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 08:20 PM
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I think most people do expect to gain something from supporting a movement though. You've heard the whole "They came for x but I didn't speak for x because I wasn't x... and then they came for me but there was no one left to speak for me". I think a lot of people think that since they're supporting say, a gender equality movement, that those same people will have their back in other areas. They don't think there will be direct benefits, but indirect ones that send a message of equality and justi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/17 02:40 PM
1

If he's cheating on you (Which I would say is the thing that makes him a loser, rather than paying a prostitute) paying a hooker would probably be his best chance at not getting caught, because otherwise he has to make a connection with another human being. Like the old saying goes, he's not paying the hooker for sex, he's paying her to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:23 AM
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Because that's how society at large would want you to think, that kind of thinking is the best on a general level. But you can't apply that thinking so rigidly to every part of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:04 AM
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So you're arbitrarily deciding it's not okay based on how you view sex and romance? Not everyone views it the same way you do, certainly not people that do sex work as a living.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:45 AM
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why do you (as in my hypothetical so who cheats on me with a hooker) have to be such a loser that you can't put in some effort to fuck a woman you have to pay? I'm not sure I understand your question, can you rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:06 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:05 PM
1

Everyone around me has echoed the opinion that men are supposed to pay for dates. I guess we come from different cultures? It's weird, this is the first time i've heard that men generally don't pay for dates, I thought those cases were exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:58 PM
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Point being, someone not enjoying their job is not a reason to not pay for their service. A prostitute may not necessarily be into the guy they're fucking, but that doesn't mean it's immoral to hire her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:53 PM
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Uhh, i'm no expert but dont men have to do that anyways? It aint as if women are paying for drinks at the bar or paying for the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:29 PM
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Oh dear, never pay for services in retail then. Most people don't enjoy their jobs there, and if you think they do then you're supposedly stupid because everything is black and white and fits my world view of how retail workers are. (Except in this analogy I actually have experience working in retail, unlike you who I assume has never worked as a sex worker.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:44 AM
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Kind of a leading question, but i'll answer regardless... Sweatshop products. They're everywhere, prostitution is stigmatized, and most people don't need sex workers to have sex unlike the people you see in /r/foreveralone or /r/incels. But some people still do need to hire a prostitute or some escort system in order to have sex, that's just an unfortunate truth, which is why i'm not in favor of saying everyone who hires a prostitute is immoral, it's hypocritical to say so as i've reiterated tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:53 AM
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Because the vast majority of humanity believes in religion? And we all know how religion views sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:31 AM
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Thats a typo, I mean you can't* Your problem is that you're grouping anything made by sweat shops together as a completely separate issue from illegal sex work, but they're both just human rights issues that ideally you would want to avoid supporting, which is my perspective on the issue. I can definitely avoid buying a new monitor or keyboard but I choose not to despite knowing that there is definitely some major human rights violations that are happening behind the scenes. It's the same thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:17 AM
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That's akin to me being uninterested in a guy who kicks puppies and someone saying I cannot judge him because I once hired an exterminator. There's a distinct difference between kicking a dog, an animal that is fairly intelligent and is domesticated by humans, and hiring an exterminator to get rid of bugs which are unintelligent and wild. You can make that same reasoning between hiring a prostitute and buying a product which was made in a sweat shop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:00 AM
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I'm not saying a smartphone isn't essential, I think it is for most jobs in the modern day. But have you stuck with the same one until its died completely? Have you not bought any other electronics that aren't essential? New clothes you don't necessarily need? Because there are plenty of things that do only exist because of the labor of poor people in poor countries with poor health regularions, thats just how the world works. Which is why i'd have no qualms buying a prostitute because that busi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:20 AM
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It's just as easy to avoid each individual product, you just need to be as conscious about it as you are about prostitution. You don't get to have a moral high ground on this issue, everyone here pays for services that end up exploiting real human beings. It's hypocritical to criticize someone who pays for prostitution because prostitutes are often exploited, just like they don't need to ever have sex in their life, you don't even need that smartphone or the new pair of shoes that just came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 01:04 AM
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It's a lot easier for women to criticize men who go to prostitutes since it's a lot easier for them to have sex, that's just an undeniable truth. I understand the ethical concerns for sure, it would feel a little dirty hiring a prostitute when there is a chance (One that is not negligible) that this person is just being exploited by whoever they're working for. But there are a lot of things like that in our societies. Like another user pointed out, a lot of the things we have that are manufactur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:08 AM
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If she had a job of her own and seemed like a genuinely kind person then yeah. But if she were just looking for someone to pay for her and her kids, then there's not a chance in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 02:39 AM
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Oh dear. Who comes to a subreddit meant for fostering debate only to completely dismiss any world view that is not their own?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:01 PM
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They want to have sex with a hot woman because they have the deluded belief that somehow the world is going to stand still, and that people will just think ''wow, this guy just shagged a hot woman'', even so no-one cares. That's a straw man and a half. I can't speak for everyone who posts on /r/foreveralone, but that's not the case at all for me, I just want an intimate relationship which really isn't that weird of a desire. It doesn't have to be with someone considered physically beautiful, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 03:16 PM
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Hey, look, all those oppressed black people proving that it's merely racism from the privileged straight cis white males that is keeping them from succeeding. Its implied heavily in this comment.
/r/PussyPass28/03/15 02:02 AM
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I'm not talking about your post specifically, i'm talking about /u/thelordofshit's post, which you happened to respond to my comment when I was responding to him.
/r/PussyPass27/03/15 07:20 PM
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Im not telling you shes a saint, but my problem is people are saying shes getting away with the crime because shes black (Because you know, courts are known for being lenient on African Americans right?), but if you changed the race of both the attacker and victim the end result would be the same. I will agree that its a pussy pass, but not a race pass. Besides no one ever says a white girl got away with a crime for being a white female (Even though as we see everyday on this sub, thats the perf…
/r/PussyPass27/03/15 01:34 PM
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The problem is that you're drawing conclusions where they cant be made. If it was a bunch of white girls beaings one white girl the end result would most liekly be the same. Thats pretty much the number 1 rule of pussypass, but here we are now.
/r/PussyPass27/03/15 12:58 PM
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Niceme.me
/r/PussyPass27/03/15 01:21 AM
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Yeah, why am I not surprised a bigot is acting like a bigot?
/r/PussyPass27/03/15 01:04 AM
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Wow, it took this parallel for me to realize this subs attitude towards women :/ When you try to mock and simplify a complex issue like this, you look like a bigot. I understand why "SJW's" dislike this sub now.
/r/PussyPass26/03/15 10:45 PM
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