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Water is wet, the sky is blue well maybe not to Redditors lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 06:19 AM
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but this idea that the younger generation of girls is racking up b0dy c0vnts in the 30s by the age of 25 is just nonsense. Yeah that's true in my experience I'm 22 and majority of girls I've been with were 0-7 and then 8-15 was above average and then 25-30 are outliers, two were an extreme outlier with 50 and 100 laycount but yeah I've never met a chick that has a higher laycount than me. A lot of girls in my experience too do repeats like shagging their ex or doing really long term FWB when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:21 PM
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No not really personally aside from personal reasons why I reduced the number of women I’m seeing. But I see where you’re coming from I think it’s totally normal for guys who sleep around a bit to come to a dry spell which is usually short lived. If it’s more than 9 months then something is off with you interacting with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 09:28 AM
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Bad location, the economy, not maximising their looks, having terrible game and not running volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:35 AM
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I’m not gonna lie the fact that happened in Nottingham I’m not that surprised those man are super socially unaware. But at least he got a happy ending as imagine if he listened to women and men on Reddit on here lol he’d have been still spinning his wheels. I agree with that or at the very least just unattractive behaviours moreso than creepy I’d say. Plus you got to remember the average girl especially if she’s hot isn’t on Reddit and probably doesn’t even know what it is lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 10:53 AM
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Women have made it abundantly clear that they don't want to be approached by men they don't find attractive. Why should I give a shit and why should I listen to neurotic women for dating advice? You should either look for signals that a woman finds you attractive or let the woman approach you herself. I'm a firm believer of the idea that men should only approach women who give them very strong and unmistakable choosing signals. This is a fantastic way to kill off the human male race or settling …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:19 PM
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This is from a US source and it’s pretty much what I see from Gen Z in the UK it makes sense too due to coronavirus, social isolation and being more chronically online. Your last sentence is wrong and is off your biases from your algorithms on social media. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-03/young-adults-less-sex-gen-z-millennials-generations-parents-grandparents#:~:text=For%20what%20researchers%20say%20is,'%20and%20grandparents'%20generations%20did.. Even the PUAs and RPers in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:30 AM
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I think hookup culture is pretty popular now amongst zoomers Not really our generation does not really get around much based off the stats and off personal experience.I'm sure we have the least amount of sex out of any generation. Most women have low laycounts of 2-5 in my experience with the higher ends being 15+ which is nothing in the grand scheme of things. I'm 22M for reference who gets around a lot and my friends who do the same say similar. You probably attract promiscuous women as friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:36 AM
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No and so aren't sexually unsuccessful men in the goal you want to achieve in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 01:26 AM
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I agree as a good looking black guy I've been rejected by black women before for not sounding hood enough and that's the same for my mixed race best friend too since he's from Essex and whenever he approached black girls when he didn't switch up his voice they used to call him a white guy in a mixed race guys body and they'd reject him based off that. One black girl for example had curved me for some guy whose a roadman who was 5"5, tats and had done time for GBH. This was after we got initial a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:05 PM
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You sound like my wingman when I first met him and before I taught him PUA but without the terminology. You honestly sound like you need to learn formal game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:04 PM
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Being a skinny woman=she's attractive, just typing this out is laughable like as if men don't care about a woman's face. If that was the case then the average young British woman would be attractive but they mostly have potato faces with weird fat distributions on the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:38 PM
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But it’s become very common, if not in real life then on social media women are seeing six packs constantly. It’s almost standard. Not its not its super rare to actually see a guy that actually lifts let alone him having the V-Taper, thick neck+forearms and defined arms. This sounds like projection honestly of your social media usage than women's. Most young men in the UK are either skinny-fat or anorexically skinny with really small frames its nonsensical that its super common for women to see.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:32 PM
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As a black man this is absolutely laughable as I grew up in an area and had classmates and friends who have been, currently are in and were released from prison. My cousin also is in prison. All these men I’ve known NEVER EVER EVER struggled to get women and the women like the fact that they commit crimes. These men range from slightly above average to gremlins. These women see criminality as masculine, it’s the act in itself they find attractive. I know one woman who told me that Michael B Jord…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:43 AM
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I swear this post has been repeated constantly but with different wording or am I losing my mind lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:12 AM
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They're pretty important but its also sex appeal, a woman's type and niches that matters more. For example I'm physically attractive and black but no matter what there's going to be a certain % of women that will never like me cause of my race. Also I don't (to an extent unless I mask) fit a mold for certain women behaviourally speaking even if they're attracted I turn them off. You can make up for looks for hitting cultural markers of attractiveness and knowing game too since this sub only focu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:32 PM
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From someone who was the abuser and manipulator no, in the short term it’s all great but in the end it ended up in flames and me having to go to into therapy and a psychiatric hospital for a personality disorder cause my whole life was in tatters. That whole relationship(and narcissism in general) is summed as “why did I do that?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:10 PM
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This sounds like a backwards rationalisation and you protecting your ego more than anything. Just wrapped up in “women only want Chad “ theory that’s been smashed on this goddamn sub 50 million times. Oh and you do know you can cold approach, maximise your social circle and do online game right? It’s not just one or the other. And attractive men do cold approach and pursue women it makes sense for them to do so. All of them are very masculine and not a pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 05:19 PM
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Yeah that’s true idk how some PPD men claim to be doing certain degrees and jobs whereby it requires a lot of good intuition and thinking but somehow go completely blind on basic stuff like looks matter or go to the gym like that isn’t the most bro advice ever. A foundation for sure is very important even if Red Pill was useful these guys are way too arrogant and egoistical to even take 1/50th of the action. A lot of these guys give off Cluster A personality disorder vibes with autism honestly b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:45 PM
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Cause they don’t have anything practical to teach on how to pick up women and if so it’s just watered down PUA.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:12 AM
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Depends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 06:57 AM
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Compliance=how willing one is to do something for you Compliance tests= asking or performing a simple request, if they agree, go up the ladder, if not well there’s a few options you can do depending on the context. Sexual tension and sexualising in general is basically a series of compliance tests for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:53 PM
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It’s not just physically escalating you need to know how to move the conversation forward. Also displaying your value and building sexual tension from the start is way more important than touching a woman. You can pull loads of women back without any form of physical escalation whatsoever if you know how to use your words and sub communications properly. Also you should be testing for compliance consistently before you can even start escalating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:15 PM
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Yeah that’s exactly the same, if it’s the U.K. you need to add your haircut, the school you went to, believe it or not even the shop you go and of course the sports you play. Your region as well matters as well. And we have “reverse classism” if that’s a thing? A lot of working class men and women refuse to date or marry those of the middle and upper classes to and mock them. Yeah it’s exactly the same as the U.K. but we don’t look down upon the trades as much as Americans do. There’s a lot more…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:17 AM
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Define skinny? Because most handsome men I know go to the gym and are clearly muscular. Most skinny men are either alone or with obese women regardless of height. Women see skinny men as men see obese women. I also had an acquaintance from school who was 6”2 and underweight due to an eating disorder he had and got zero women until he built muscle. You underestimate how much women look at a man’s weight as part of their attraction and how that can affect everything else. Women do not want to feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:28 AM
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Primitive state or extinct
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:51 PM
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I got the impression that because of American individualism and the American dream anyone can rise up and become part of a new class just through money. Cause speaking to American students in England they’re shocked how much class plays in the British psyche and how someone like David Beckham isn’t upper class despite being richer than most upperclassmen. Yeah I thought it was a bit fishy on upper class American men not giving a shit about a woman’s social standing it seemed like PPD men have ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:08 PM
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No I’d reject her cause I wouldn’t find her physically attractive not because of her desperation. It also sounds like she’s easy to manipulate based off your description
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:45 AM
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Yeah if you’re talking about an upper class Englishman from talking to those men they’ll never marry or even LTR a woman that’s in the lower classes. The lowest they’ll go is Upper middle class and she has to be a 9 minimum. Men who say that a woman’s career and status doesn’t matter are probably Americans or working class-middle class. Those men I mentioned would laugh at the idea of getting with a woman lesser than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:29 AM
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LOL if anything it’s the opposite as Red Pillers give zero practical advice on how to pick up women in person or online dating. And they say garbage like “just focus on your career ignore women in your 20s”. And on here they all make excuses on why they can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 12:26 PM
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Your game wasn’t good enough to move it further
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:11 PM
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In my close circle of friends no. If it was guys in my school I knew one guy whose an acquaintance who formerly that was because he was extremely skinny (I’d say about 45-44kg/99lbs) and had an eating disorder but recovered and went to the gym now he’s got a gf. When I first saw him coming back to my hometown I didn’t even recognise him at first cause he looked so different. He was/is pretty jaded though based off how people treated him back when he was skinny to his current self.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:54 PM
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Eh not really you can view making yourself more attractive to women as a form of improving yourself. Being attractive to them helps a hell of a lot more in other areas of your life than you think. Both physically and behaviourally. This just sounds like that Red pill nonsense advice of “focus on yourself not women” mantra they like to repeat to protect their egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:07 PM
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Go to a boxing gym and get punched in the face+learn how to speak with authority and to stand up for yourself. Use the word no more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:42 AM
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Point of the matter is that it’s totally dishonest to act as if women from certain demographics don’t like criminality and don’t see it as masculine and attractive. And it’s just a matter of looks. It’s way too simplistic is my point. I know men from my school and my neighbourhood who’ve been to prison multiple times that get women and they aren’t lookers at all. The women in question like the thrill of them along with the masculinity that they associate their actions with. Poverty is a cop out …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:37 PM
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For me online dating and I say this as a pickup artist. It’s a far more efficient way to meet and bang loads of women. If you know how to create a good profile, know how to text women and know what to do on dates you never even have to do a single cold approach. It’s ridiculously easy to get women straight to the house on dating apps in England they have such low standards. I barely spend any money on women from online dating. There’s PUAs that have body counts of 350-400+ from online dating alo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:09 PM
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A black (presumably) American woman making this post is absolutely hilarious and disingenuous as fuck knowing the state of that community in what women find attractive in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:23 AM
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Most guys who are on juice and it looks obvious have the elite of the elite genetics most people wouldn’t be able to tell if the average man goes on roids. And some guys would benefit from it as their face is too baby face or really gaunt so putting muscle can improve your facial features Naturally a man can’t be too big going to the gym and being lean muscular most certainly improves your dating life especially on dating apps. It especially helps if you were on the extreme ends of the weight sp…
/r/AllPillDebate21/07/23 11:54 AM
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I’ll concede that due to men having no standards along with a general lack of aimlessness to attract women that the average woman can bang one slightly above her level. But the PPD narrative that the standard handsome guy is banging them is largely nonsense and mostly theory on how those men live. Sure I can believe your story you sound like a guy used to be on here and I spoke to but he was already handsome growing up but didn’t have game so he struggled a lot with closing the deal with hot wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:08 PM
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I did say I assumed that you inferred a HVM must be a traditionally handsome guy since the consensus on here believe that majority of average women are hooking up with them which is statistically doesn't even make sense anyways let alone line up with reality. Unless you literally define a HVM as a man above a 5 alone based off looks. The average woman hooks up with men her "looks level" in majority of cases and occasionally shags a 6. But that doesn't make the men in question high value at all u…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:46 AM
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If I'm assuming that you mean HVM=a Chad then most of those men would laugh at the idea of sleeping with such a woman. The majority of average woman will never even see that type of man in her life let alone sleep and date him. If they do then they just have low standards/esteem, in a very bad location or zero game. I've seen women approach them and them harshly rejecting them and one flat out being mean to her. If ignoring that those men never ever go below a 7-7.5 they have very high standards…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:05 AM
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It’s mainly a dig at that stupid RP advice of just ignore women/focus on yourself/career in your 20s and they’ll flock to you. When that just makes you a target for gold diggers. There’s a better ROI just maximising your looks and learning game plus in a bar or club how would she be able to tell that you’ve got money if it’s just your standard big city nightclub?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:54 PM
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They have extremely naturally low inhibition without any qualms of doing drugs or alcohol. They’re hitting the party scene at least 3-4x a week at uni over here and are extremely proactive in pursuing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:48 PM
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On here is that the vast majority will never see a Chad to be worried about him. It’s a waste of time for them to be discussing men like him. The average woman banging a Chad is far more uncommon than what this sub believes. The only time he does is when he has zero game, low standards or low self esteem. Every good looking man I’ve known who can get hot girls consistently will never go below a 7. Why would we? Even average looking men with game and/or PUAs don’t so why would a Chad? Daygame or …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:00 AM
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Look up Kanika Bartra. She makes Lauren Sanchez look so tame in comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:48 AM
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You think physically attractive men don’t approach women that didn’t see them or ask them out? And just because a woman approaches or show’s attraction doesn’t mean you’ll close it’s definitely possibly for men to mess it up.
/r/AllPillDebate07/07/23 09:11 PM
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That’s not true ASPD and NPD are extremely extremely similar in fact that’s most common disorder combination out of the cluster B family. You also can have BPD and ASPD too also since they’re all in the same cluster. That woman also has NPD and the way she’s dresses is also highly driven by it. That’s with most people with cluster B personality disorder most of us don’t know we actually have it but men and women with BPD are the most likely to get treatment and “recover” from the disorder. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:01 AM
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Women with NPD and/or BPD also know how to mirror your wants and needs and will fill up your ego to get what they want out of you. So from the mans perspective he's just met the woman of his dreams when in reality its just a ruse. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QoXfEzmM070 For example this woman is a clincial narcissistic sociopath describing how she's successfully dated and manipulated men and women. This woman's happily engaged as well to a rich guy despite using men like making a date of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 11:56 PM
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What's your race? What's your nationality? What race was this british guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:12 AM
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This deffo isn't true in certain demographics. In my community men like that would be a huge turn off to women and be seen as lacking edge/being lame even if there was initial attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:07 AM
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No its building attraction first then comfort, nice guys finish last because they do the opposite. However a woman won't sleep with you first date or ONS or even bust a nut if there isn't enough comfort in majority of cases in an initial interaction and if she does buyers remorse is increased. These I regret sex situations women have was because those men did not build comfort enough. But if you don't build attraction then the convo will fizzle out and she'll find a way to fuck off or you're fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:45 AM
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Who gives a fuck about Reddit? I’m talking about real life. Red pillers and black pillers like lying and say that there’s no messaging that women don’t talk about looks when that’s horseshit. They’re just blaming women for their ineptitude and autism, who many have admitted to having. They mention this “women say they don’t care about looks” from their real life experiences. Women tell me and my friends how good looking we are. And when they talk about their bfs they ALWAYS mention his looks, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:21 PM
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I just don’t know how their gfs never told them how attractive they are looks wise or their female friends talking about cute guys. You can literally even hear girls on the street sometimes waiting for the bus talking about a guys looks but women lied to them lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:41 PM
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Yes you are, a lot you are visibly autistic and don’t know basic common sense like looks matter until some pill told you and that “women lied” when it’s beyond obvious that they talk about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:14 PM
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Agreed. As long as you have a good strategy and tactics on what to do and say in a convo you’re golden.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:47 PM
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For women I’d say but not dislike I’d say not care about them unless they show value. Men as well however I dislike men more than I do women. I believe most men are total parasites and leeches. I’ve had this view the more I’ve had experience with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 07:22 PM
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Oh yeah for sure I have rules like they have to be long distance and I only invite them to my house on the rare occasion that it isn’t a one night stand. Luckily I’m in England so it’s just fists no guns really
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:08 AM
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I mask but for a completely different reason to you but what choice do we have? I use the gym personally as a coping mechanism to rest my mask. You’d get there eventually with enough practice and persistence if you can find one I’d honestly go to a psychopath and sociopath and ask them to teach you how to do it properly if not watch YT videos of them saying how they do it. And read a lot of books on social dynamics and hierarchies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:05 PM
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If by high functioning you mean knowing how to mask, mirror+reading body language and vocal modulation then obviously the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 12:44 PM
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Lol why do you guys still listen and take women seriously? Especially on Reddit where they lie and virtue signal claiming muscles don’t matter and make no difference. Or their beta enablers and/or lazy men who want to backwards rationalise and claim it makes no difference or they supposedly know a muscular guy that doesn’t get girls. I’ve never met an attractive woman that wasn’t swoon by my muscles or any other guy yet on Reddit people act like some twig or fat man has a better chance lmao. Put…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 04:23 PM
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You live in a big city or small city? In the best friend incident that’s happened to me cause I live in a student city of 200k lol. I can’t wait to move to a bigger city honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 09:00 AM
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You ever had the point where you’ve gone on so many dates you say things on autopilot and then clock on later how subconscious this is lol. Or when girls tell you that you’ve slept with their best friend or you said that line to her best mate without realising lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 08:28 PM
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Literally watch these playlists from start to finish with no questioning and you’ll see how predictable women are on online dating. The idea that there’s no skill on dates and women don’t reject men for not escalating or they already decided in seconds they’d have sex with you is nonsense you can definitely increase your probability of success by making optimal moves on a date. These guys will teach you on archetypes of women and how to socially calibrate and have your own script around them. ht…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:52 PM
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I go through cycles of being bored out of my mind on women through online dating and inviting them straight to the house. It’s usually around 8-12 weeks I find switching between fuck dates straight to the house and public dates. As women are robots on online dating and it’s so scripted the way running game is on them whether that’s text or in person. On enough dates you can predict what they’ll say, do, and behave like a maths equation. They have no social skills whatsoever so they’re only good …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:05 PM
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LOL this pussy blocking me hahahahaa
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 04:18 PM
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I do not just have NPD I also have traits of ASPD and a mood disorder officially speaking. So am I and have extreme boredom and an adrenaline junkie. I don’t have the full blown disorder though.That’s not an excuse not to mask and you probably are more on the ASPD side of things or just have it because if you had NPD you’d be constantly wanting to be seeking external validation. You don’t have a problem talking to people and yet you can’t talk to girls? If you were high functioning you shouldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 02:28 PM
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If this isn’t a troll you do know we have to mask right? You don’t show the negative traits of ASPD and NPD from the jump. Do you know how to mirror and change your vocal tonality along worth sizing up people. Cause it just looks like you’re really low functioning like some autistic guy. Even then how did you grow up not clocking on that you need to size up, mask and “manipulate” people?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 09:37 AM
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No as your sexual drive and testosterone is a huge part of male identity and what makes you a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 10:59 PM
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They can’t if they’re white men assessing black and south Asian dudes attractiveness especially if the black and south Asian dude in question is around 6.5-7 in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 05:18 PM
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Women approach me and my Chad friends but they're way below average and desperate to the point where we're better off approaching and its a turn off. Stacies at most give IOIs and you still need to capitalise on it cause they have God level abundance lol.
/r/AllPillDebate13/06/23 09:40 PM
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The autistic people here should just watch YouTube videos from high functioning narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths or actors on how to mask, mirror and to do vocal modulation. That’s if they don’t know anyone IRL who’s like this since they’re atrocious at masking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 01:49 PM
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American people are so weird does the average person really care about politics this much? This just feels like they’re just saying things for the sake of saying things. And how does masculinity even tie into politics wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:57 AM
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They’re not exactly the same but you must certainly can draw certain trends and patterns when you bang and date hundreds of women and go on hundreds of dates. A great example of this is online dating whereby women’s profiles are exactly the same, same archetype, same mannerisms and thought patterns and you take them on a date and you can predict in certain scenarios what they’re going to say or react emotionally. If I for example deviate from the script then it takes me longer to pull. There is …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:11 PM
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Elliot Rodger I relate to in a way and one of the few people in this world where I felt emotional empathy because we both have NPD but he didn’t get help for it(not like he would’ve been that aware from reading about him) but our dating lives are the complete opposite. I just don’t like how they (and some women who’ve never hung out with us) assume every good looking man can’t have struggles with women or we don’t put any effort in especially when it comes to hot women or we bang average/ugly gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:27 PM
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Autism and some undiagnosed cluster A personality disorder. Then in the next post these men will complain about the “fall of masculinity” lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:01 AM
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They should think of it as a yes ladder, doing it small first then making the changes to become bigger. First thing I'd do immediately is to get them to sign up to a serious combat sport so they can develop a spine as the nice guys I've noticed are way too passive and allow constant disrespect from men and women and are emasculated constantly. 6-12 months would outdo all the years of bad behaviour they've learned from their environment. Like seriously with PPD Men its clear they've never been ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:52 PM
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Friendzoned if he becomes masculine, decisive and learns game as that’s their main problem rather than looks. Fuckzoned will always be rotation girl only.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 11:06 PM
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Just because a man is toxic it doesn't mean he is dark triad nor is a DT man necessarily toxic as being DT is extremely rare. And majority of toxic men are normal looking men facially and the men who i knew with personality disorders done very well because of their behavioural traits otherwise they'd be every other dude. There's plenty of women who'd reject normal men with the looks because of their principles and convictions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 07:04 PM
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Its what we display that are attractive moreso than we are toxic people tbh along with these women having their own problems or them lying/not understanding certain actions lol. Unless you're in certain socio-economic classes or you're dealing with women of a certain race in England and in America where criminality=masculinity to the point where a 5"5 gangbanger with no morals can be more sexually successful than some clean cut 6ft model looking dude with these women cause the former is a crimin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:31 PM
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It’s totally stupid how one can say abusers get away with it because they know how to put a facade but at the same time claim that some shy awkward man cannot fake his personality or do vocal modulation and learn the social skills to attract women especially if it’s a nightclub setting. Especially on PPD where the users here are the easiest people to manipulate and mask if I ever met them IRL. Another example is someone who changed from 16 years old to 21 it’s super common for people to grow, ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:48 PM
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Majority do not have the results they claim/don't have good game PUAs are high in dark triad/personality disorders, i can think of two who IMO are clinical sociopaths and narcissists All of us have no problem banging some taken woman, also tactics such as AMOGing are taught+incessent bragging about it ie this YT video https://youtu.be/1qVCNmfPsio Certain people refusing to believe that you can change your identity and improve Some people went to some blatant charlatan and didn't do their due dil…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 06:07 PM
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Rotation or one night stand girl at best Never long term due to how batshit crazy and mentally ill these women are. Strippers especially are the equivalent of a woman dating bad boys and any man who seriously dates them should be put to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:33 PM
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Ever heard of hyperbole? Lol and I never just approach IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:15 PM
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“Anything that doesn’t align with my worldview must be fake” I haven’t watched a video of the calibre in like almost 2 years now that was from the top of my head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:09 AM
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Rejected by thousands? you sound so upset and reactive did some guy and girl ruin your day lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:08 AM
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I can when it’s around 1-2 new women per week I sleep with and you think I only just approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:05 AM
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I never said its all PUA, and again you contradicted your original comment. I am a narcissist of course I know the importance of how people treat me cause of my looks and I tell PPD men on here to go to the gym whereby its discouraged. That does not mean PUA/game is not important nor does it not increase your probability of success. I've known good looking men blow out their interactions just from not knowing what to do and thats after they got clear signs of interest, my wing before I met him f…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:55 AM
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Fair it was a long comment but you should've read it, and regarding my looks I never improved it whilst learning PUA I had came into this community already jacked. I have not become "better looking" since then I also had a dry spell before even encountering these forums and community. Lol there's plenty of average looking guys that don't have a problem with women in PUA go look up playing with fire on YT for instance. There's PUAs and non PUAs who brag about banging 500+ women and one who brags …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 02:58 AM
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So if PUA works independently of looks and other attributes and one can just say the right words Lol you think PUA is just about saying words? Lmao if anything its an unpopular opinion to believe what you say does matter and its an application of the techniques. You have zero clue on PUA or misinterpreted what they teach. And who said PUAs don't think and talk about looks? - again then why doesn’t it work for millions of men who have tried Thats you being terminally online/projecting and PUA isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:59 PM
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That’s still nuts if you think about it, the dude was maxed out in everything you can think of and he still got taken for a ride.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:04 PM
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Well no because just talking to girls or being good at social skills wouldn’t make you behaviourally attractive to women nor will you bang 50-100 women a year. It’s a specific set of skills and strategy you need. You’re telling me you physically and sexually escalate on your male friends and handle their objections to coming home with you for instance? Your argument is you just saying play chess or poker 3000 times with no strategy and as a result you’ll get better. As if most men don’t suck ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:06 PM
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That makes no sense since PUA is a set of social skills which is sales methods applied to dating and are the only type of men and women who teach this. Its not a cheat code to tell a guy to modulate his voice and use eye contact to build sexual tension nor is it one when you tell someone to move the conversation forward. That's on the way to having identity level change.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 09:42 PM
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His wife definitely calls the shots or mistreats him or something with the way he simps around women. He’ll be telling you next how easy it is to get a house in the modern economy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:57 PM
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No because just from speaking to these type of women it’s obvious that they’d cheat, just from sizing them up. And when women cheat it’s because they’ve lost respect for their man in some way. Regardless of the guys looks in my experience. It’s not like handsome men are immune to be cheated on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:26 PM
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Yup he’s so cringe and reminds me of some old man in the pub talking about the “good old days”. He’s as terminally online if not more than those he likes to dunk on and criticise. It’s very off how he portrays himself and I don’t personally believe he has that much success with women. Blackpillers have given more actionable advice than he. He’s a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 07:24 PM
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I think the overestimation on how much the average man wants to have sex tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 05:06 PM
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Out of curiosity what PUA tactics and methods did he use and did he say what was his laycount along with the PUA he learned from?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:31 PM
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Game is amoral along with sexual strategy. Game is like a knife, you can use it for unscrupulous means like stabbing someone or you can use it to chop food. In other words its down to how the individual wants to use the knife, likewise with game. Manipulation also isn't inherently a bad thing, its a very natural part of human conversation and nature. its also down to the individual and what they're intentions are. Like is a child a bad person for example for intentionally waiting for his parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 03:22 PM
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Reddit is not a representative of anything, let alone a PUA one and I haven't been on here long nor do i come here often. Lol if you wanna go down the rabbit hole since you're already into this subculture here's the YT channel I told you about https://www.youtube.com/@PlayingWithFireChannel/videos where you can debate him and he shows mountains of proof of his results.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:58 PM
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PUAs claim the ratio is 99 to 1 phone number The most I approach in one night is 15-20 usually it takes me about 7 approaches to 1 pull. If I am getting approached then I'd pull almost 90% of the time. That's garbage and any PUA who says that is terrible at game, you should be getting around 65-70% of phone numbers from every woman you approach. If its social media I'd put it up to 80% cause women just give it out so easily. You really need to watch PUA videos not whatever garbage forum you lurk…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:43 PM
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I’m sure as well there’s been complaints by non PUA guys on Reddit on how online dating is like Groundhog Day and they admit they themselves run routines and predict the reaction from a woman cause they’ve simply had so many opportunities. Which pretty much confirms you can get away with having scripted lines as long as your body language is congruent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:17 PM
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There’s one woman who’s claiming she’s on PUA forums and therefore it doesn’t work just cause a few guys got rejected. I’ve made thousands of approaches and have yet to come across a woman who knows about PUA and get caught out especially amongst Gen Z. Negging has never ever been taken seriously for decades, when I used to watch their content all of them advocated for teasing at most. If anything they emphasised using dating apps moreso than teaching negging. Also you can tell how old they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 02:02 PM
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Using reddit as an example is terrible where its the least populated out of where PUAs are. Majority are on YT or on facebook and even then its just beginners-intermediate guys at most. You're telling me Paul Janka couldn't get laid when he was a PUA? Or James Tusk lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:43 PM
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Yeah I’ve been saying this for awhile women IRL have zero idea of PUA tactics especially in the U.K. I got called out of touch for this by one simp on here who keeps on banging on about his fraternity days like some guy who hit his peak in university and some moron thinking I target “damaged” or “mentally ill” women to run game on🤣🤣🤣🤣if she had any clue about PUA we emphasise the importance of vetting and screening our rotation girls for LTR. People here are far too terminally online and severel…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:58 AM
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I think guys on here have an unjustifiably high ego combined with laziness and are too black and white in their thinking along with a poor sample size. It’s ridiculous how many guys think here that hot women will basically do a reverse gender roles in the initial stages of courtship and think they accept guys with anti-game. It’s all theory and speculation on the lives of handsome men and beautiful women. The reality is as a man effort is a must with women in their league or above, the only time…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:27 PM
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At most 8-10s will give indicators of interest in the vast majority of cases and the intensity will vary from culture and race. I know hot women who’d laugh at the idea of approaching a man, it’s not masculine whatsoever as a man to be waiting for women to approach you. And super hot women want very masculine men. I’ve never ever seen a feminine man be with a hot girl. Game and social skills are even more important cause Gen Z women can’t carry a conversation apart from three conversation thread…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:47 PM
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Agreed, to have the PPD male fantasy to have endless causal sex with Stacies ie banging 1-3 new women a week with 8-10s consistently you have to approach women and can’t be a retard socially speaking. Beautiful women have way too many options and they have their pick of the litter to be picking some guy who has zero game, no charisma no status not masculine etc. Paul Janka was a Chad PUA who had a 4% close rate cold approach and he was 6”3, 9/10, millionaire, physics graduate at Harvard and appr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 02:19 PM
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You’re right women give more compliance to white men but it’s not as if the average white guy is banging models and slaying just cause he’s white. It’s also true that successful non white men exploit the insecurities of white worshippers especially when it comes to women but still. Like this sub and these pills along with pick-up are full of white mostly middle class suburban men who failed or struggle(d) with women until they worked on themselves. And in my country 66% of men in universities do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:49 AM
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This is just common sense sprinkled in with some racial element into it. How can it take you until university to realise women are attracted to men who take care of themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:51 AM
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Agreed, volume will always be king which is majority of mens problems which is not running the numbers and being calculated and having a visible strategy talking to girls whether that’s in a bar, school or online. The conversion rates though may vary between certain avenues and what metric is it and how good you are at cold approach pick up and game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:50 PM
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I’m mainly on about the average tall guy not an athlete with status. It’s rare in general to see any man with visible muscle definition let alone a tall man or a very lean, muscular or jacked one. That’s spotting a unicorn honestly. Those men even for tall men are very rare. 6”8 lol I’ve never even seen a guy that tall in my life Jesus. No doubt that it can help with certain women but the exaggerations on here are to the absolute extreme and most of these stories it’s not even the guy sleeping w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:47 PM
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Conversely I’ve spoken to many women and dated them asking about this scenario and all have said the 5”10 guy they’d prefer. My best friend is also this guy and he’s slept with 113 women at 21 and a good chunk of that had bfs that were taller than him. Had he not had a gf he’d have easily banged 700 women by 26-27. According to PPD some poorly dressed, average to below average tall man in looks, physique and charisma would beat him lol cause he’s 5”10 no that never happens at all. Also are you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:50 AM
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From men: Anything petraining to the nonsense that "more men are blackpilled/redpilled, more men are going to the gym, more men are getting their money up" but when you step outside the vast majority look a disgrace, we live in a cost of living crisis and they're bums. Anything claiming that an average man whose 6"3 with a 4/10 face is more likely to bang 100+ women in a year than a 5"10 man with a 9/10 face and their "proof" is their friend speaking to some busted girl once or "they just heard …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:05 PM
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If you mean by autism then yes it also depends on your age But if its other forms of neurodivergence like certain personality disorders then I'd say its equal in the short term, long term women are more accepting of men who are narcissistic, sociopathic or psychopathic (otherwise known as dark triad) speaking from experience due to us being very good at masking and mirroring. Neurodivergence=/=autism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:41 AM
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Out of curiosity how is racism a part of misandry? I've never heard this take before
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:18 AM
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Its probably due to the fact that people don't see female sexuality or women in general as a threat compared to men. Its similar to the laycount sentiment and open relationships too. Along with the fact it isn't seen as masculine to be shagging another man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:56 PM
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I swear to God please hire a PUA coach for a bootcamp or something please your posts are super autistic whenever I see them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:33 PM
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But they still need to know the skills in order to have autonomy, otherwise they'll be unsatisfied and we all crave external validation and the belief that we're attractive to women. Hence why these men are the most salty when they come across players. This sub and dating dynamics is in the context of straight people in the west, asexuals and gay guys are irrelevant. Doesn't matter about their accomplisments no one will ever look at those men and think they're not a lame or a beta. Being alpha o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:39 PM
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That advice is largely ego driven to avoid rejection from women and guys who were/are horrendous with girls so monk mode is their only coping mechanism. Having money or being a fighter or something without the skills to attract women makes you a high value target, not a high value man. Being good at business does not translate to dating skills at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:21 PM
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A high value man is just a guy that's attractive to a wide variety of women. It has nothing to do with accomplishments or money nor does the man decide. Women determine whether you're high value or not. The inclusion and emphasis of money is just certain type of Americans projecting and backwards rationalising the fact that they cannot attract women without money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 09:02 PM
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For me its getting a 1st for 3rd year so I can get into my masters and then I wanna try and do a new martial art because I'm bored/losing passion for Judo, I think its time for me to move on or start teaching. With other areas I feel content and consistent so I don't feel the need to self improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:24 PM
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Good good you used your actions than words
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 06:40 PM
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Yeah that sounds exactly what I expected which makes your story believable just from personal experience and speaking to men and women with this disorder. Neurotypical men get completely destroyed by women with BPD and other cluster B personality disorders when they’re low functioning. It’s like they meet their “match” when they meet someone similar. It also seems the manipulation is more subconscious and impulse along with her living a kind of parasitic lifestyle. Are you sure? Because with all…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:40 AM
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Kinda true but I have noticed women who don’t shout it as much if at all about personality go for genuine normal chill looking guys. Deffo though morality has nothing to do with sexual attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:09 AM
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Yes there’s another guy on here from there too. I don’t live there currently as I’m a uni student down south wbu?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:08 AM
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The most vain and shallow women I’ve dated in my life tbh were the ones who’d tell their friends about how important confidence and personality is but it was beyond obvious to me and everyone else they were just saying it for attention. I’ve noticed as well they were the ones most stringent on types despite denying they had one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:44 AM
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Ikr you just know they’d be throwing shit at the teacher or shout at them in these lessons or just wouldn’t understand it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 07:24 AM
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Women who constantly bang on about the importance of personality or confidence don’t give a shit about it whatsoever. It’s like the female equivalent of nice guys saying that they’re a nice guy. Not once have I ever seen these women follow their word. The ones that do never have to shout it out from the rooftops in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:27 PM
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How attractive is she? And what type of men does she usually date behaviourally speaking? Because women like your daughter they go for total doormats or they go for men with NPD or ASPD like a moth to a flame. But yeah in your case make sure you establish your boundaries and be mindful of your tonality if she senses fear of abandonment. Sometimes it might have to take two three or 10 depending how severe it is or she can be high functioning without therapy. In her case what was her childhood lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:28 PM
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Thank you very much. I was just wondering because of the superficial charm I don’t have full blown ASPD but I have traits of it and she sounds like me but that’s just also the fact that we’re in the same family of cluster B disorders. How many did you see may I ask? With remission I’d agree with BPD it’s far easier for them to recover and at least you’ve actually gone to specialists in cluster B disorders cause it’s extremely hard especially with how dogshit our healthcare is and due to the natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:51 PM
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If what you’re saying is true about BPD the reality is that people like us(I don’t have BPD but it’s sister personality disorder) is that her life would have to collapse before her eyes in order for her to go to therapy and get an official diagnosis. Also are you sure it’s just BPD and not comorbid with other disorders? It seems she has traits of ASPD also. And for marriage prospects she can get a man however it’ll be a certain type she’d subconsciously or consciously sizes them up but since she…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 09:43 AM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:22 AM
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Nah even though I’m a big believer in game you still need to be physically attractive to a woman. Even before I became a PUA and just improved my looks by adding on muscle it made so much of a difference and had nothing but benefits for me going from a skinny guy. It should be common sense and intuitive to humans that looks matter, unless you’re autistic you shouldn’t be told so tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 08:01 AM
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IRL it’s definitely not malicious but on here I don’t blame the guys thinking there’s a some conspiracy to keep unattractive men unattractive the way they act lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:53 PM
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Why do you still listen to straight women for advice on how to attract them lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:08 PM
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This is the equivalent of those guys and girls who say “why don’t they teach us about taxes and mortgages” in secondary school like as if they’d pay attention lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 03:02 PM
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Correct and they assume that naturals don’t learn pickup which isn’t true cause I was this natural they like or their experiences are with a PUA who was a beginner or socially uncalibrated. A good PUA would do everything a natural does and would have their own personality change. Along with the fact that scripts and lines are looked down upon not the norm at all. Although some of the claims I doubt because PUAs are so rare and nonexistent unless they’re older. Everyone has a strategy it’s just t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:54 AM
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PUA and game tactics are sales methods revised into dating. For me and many other guys it helped and and improved our social lives in general. Usually most guys who learn PUA just have their dating lives missing and can interact with others just fine. There’s a evident difference between the social skills to make a friend and the difference to date women. Or they were relationship guys who want to stat pad their laycount as high as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:11 PM
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Well yes cause you do it so much it becomes part of your subconscious and if the guy was awkward and introverted as a teenager then he’d have plenty of time to transform himself. It’s not as if he’s 55-60 years old and has decades of this behaviour. And if the guys attracting women for ONS and casual then he’ll find it easy to get into a relationship since there’s a correlation between the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:08 PM
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Since when are women on Reddit dating PUAs? We would be the polar opposites unless the women were attractive and men who learn formal charisma find it the easiest to get into relationships as we’re one of the least needy and supplicating men on the planet. We’d never be in a dead bedroom nor would be still introverts playing games or we were introverts in general that’s a blatant lie wtf.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:13 PM
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Yeah but they’re clapped, only like 2/10 are passible for attractive and one maybe is a phone number. Hot girls just give blatant signs in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:16 PM
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Lol there’s plenty of neurotypical men who cheat with on their girls and are terrible humans in general. Just cause one has empathy or remorse doesn’t mean they’re a good person or aren’t incapable of cheating. Plus we’re very rare people so you can’t really attribute NPD to cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 08:29 AM
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I’m a uni student doing maths and computer science so like I realised if I actually wanted to get a solid degree classification this year I have to cut down. 2nd year I had so much free time but this year is really difficult and I want to do my hobbies so I am significantly reducing my rate of meeting women until the summer. But even at uni you have so much free time it’s scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 01:37 PM
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Mentioning Race I would talk about it more but I’ll get my comment removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:01 PM
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In my case I wasn't always above average in looks objectively before I hit the gym, I'd say I was a 6.5/10 in looks until I hit the gym and went up by a point. However I had always had that natural superficial charm, I also have a personality disorder which is part of the dark triad and that helped incredibly well as I was forced to be perceptive and charismatic. But apart from a small dry spell I've always been good with women. I owe that to my Dad and putting in Judo and Muay thai from a young…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:03 PM
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Oh yeah the 6"5 guy is a machine, he's the type of guy that would be angry at not pulling a third woman in one night, along with having another FWB or tinder girl ready to deliver herself meanwhile you and your friends have zero. I've never seen a man so dedicated into fucking pussy. I'm convinced he could pull 5-6 times in one night in Vegas, Aya Napia, Cancun, Ibiza. I think he'll bed 500-600 women minimum especially cause he's making up for lost time until he's bored for him it goes beyond se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 10:17 PM
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6"5 white dude is 23 Me and my best friend the mixed race guy we're 21 Older white dude is 26
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:56 PM
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Guy number 1 whose still at it and if he doesn’t catch an STD he’ll easily bang 100/yr but anywho he’s: 6”5 White Blonde I’d put him as a 9/10 in looks The closest resemblance both facially and physique wise(he’s a bit bigger) is this dude https://images.app.goo.gl/z8hLxz2ooDQzpnMR7 By far the best looking man I have ever seen Guy number two: 5”10 Mixed race 8.5/10 He’s very lean but doesn’t look like he lifts Imagine him but light skinned with sharp green eyes https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 07:50 PM
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Yeah I knew three, two settled down one has a rotation of 4. I had a two-three girl rotation but I always keep it to two because I want(ed) to maximise my laycount and I felt like having rotation girls held me back. Plus I had no time for uni, focusing on Muay Thai, Wrestling/Judo and women all at the same time since women consumed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:18 PM
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They don’t have to explicitly say it but women can tell they get other women just by the way they carry themselves. Like have you ever met a guy you just know from the way he carries himself that he’s good with women? Basically that principle applies. It’s the same with some guy being able to tell if another guy can fight. Guy number 1 is 5”10, he’s exceptionally handsome and charismatic/game. He is the rare combo of excellent looks+good game. Women from the jump already assume he’s shagged bare…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:40 PM
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I’m sorry but this isn’t true there’s an extremely high correlation between guys who are manwhores and their ability to get into a relationship. All my friends+wingmen who have ran through women like it’s a normal part of life haven’t struggled to find a willing woman that wants an LTR. I’ve said this many times for men like me it’s easier to find a gf than it is a good new genuine male friend. Guys who are good with women are the least needy and supplicating men on the planet, the complete oppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:21 PM
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Yeah I’m a pickup artist and conventionally attractive and I agree with how mechanical and boring it is once you’re good. Especially with online dating its gotten to the point where I prefer real life due to uncertainty and women having better social skills and trying in a conversation. Going on dates is basically the same person but this day she has blonde hair this day she’s taller than me. It’s like after you’re good you start running the same routines/script so many people think “doesn’t wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:34 PM
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I’m sorry but there’s a type of man that dislikes me and my other handsome friends just because we’re good looking. In fact you don’t have to be conventionally attractive you just have to be a guy that gets and bangs loads of women and men will dislike you. It’s gotten to the point that finding a gf is easier than finding a male friend cause of how shallow, spiteful and jealous men are. I actually dislike men more often than I used to and add in rule 6 which I can’t talk about and it’s worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:32 AM
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Over here its usually tall women that say 6ft only, like the last time some girl said it she's 5"10-5"11. I don't see this worship of tall men to the point where other factors are useless tbh. Same with this idea of Chads being everywhere and super common load of garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:13 PM
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If you were in Southampton the city I’m in for uni in terms of dating out your best chances believe it or not are with east Asians (they’re international students) and then white women. Over here actually Asian guys and white girls are the most common IR couple which surprised me but didn’t at the same time this is from local girls+uni girls who’re posh southerners mostly. In Birmingham my hometown or in certain parts the north of England my hometown you should have no problem so as long as your…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:24 AM
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Right thank you, I’ll use that instead cause Chad sounds way too white American lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:18 AM
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These types are like the everyday man in his dating life IME, mediocre but just by proximity he’ll find a woman and it’s never the hottest tbh. But if it’s some pick-up competition he’ll have to approach a shitload of women and I don’t think he’d pull more honestly if he’s just average in everything else. The short dude by presence alone/looking like a healthy human would edge him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:17 AM
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How short we talking like below 5”5?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:03 AM
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Yes I always date and sleep with women on my level to above me. What’s a black Chad but one tier below it? I’m that I’d say. Usually the girls that do this are worse looking than me, ranging from about 4-6s. The hotter ones are more subtle. I wasn’t always muscular though but it’s made a world of a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 12:01 AM
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Ye I’ve got to be honest I struggle to believe height>physique since despite being 5”9 I constantly catch some tall guy who has an average to the build of a toothpicks gf keeps on checking me out and staring especially at the gym. Earlier today coming home some girl was looking at me from the other side of the road whilst talking to and walking with her her tall skinny bf and after 30s or so he started looking at me, I turn around and then I see them walking past with his arm around her. I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:44 PM
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I don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 10:18 PM
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Lol that's assumptive closing you could have learned that in a sales 101 video or from some PUA that's got nothing to do with Tate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:13 PM
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Wouldn’t recommend it with the cost of living going on atm
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:44 PM
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In that case I agree and that’s a wonderful explanation
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:44 PM
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Fair enough what I was getting at is the “wow factor” handsome men also experience this and I am also in England where let’s just say the quality of women is mediocre at best so they stand out more lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:36 PM
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Be around more exceptionally attractive women and date/bang them. At the minimum they’ll be blatant stares my ex used to get this all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 10:18 PM
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How would you differentiate social skills and personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:55 PM
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My understanding this: White(?) 8+ minimum The type of woman where the whole room stops Can be any personality Seems life just comes easy for her Every man dreams of a woman like her Any height Insane sex appeal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:14 PM
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Lol redpill tells guys just “focus on yourself and get money, ignore women in your 20s and women will come to you at 30 bro” and think it’s legitimate advice lmao. Like as if money makes you alpha or you need it to hookup with women or have a relationship. Even personality matters more And their game tactics are underwhelming as fuck to bag a hot girl
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:11 PM
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That’s with most redpillers on here they don’t know shit about their methodology as if they did they’d know RP emphasises game albeit poor strategy. Majority of them here are blackpillers in denial with a sexual attraction to classically handsome men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 02:21 PM
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Bro please learn how to fight first and foremost along with weightlifting/strength training. Second of all you got completely played and you were/are so needy and put her on a pedestal. Learn how to vet better and speak to more women cause it’s obvious you lack experience/common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 01:27 AM
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Short>average>tall in my experience but I’m in the U.K. so what I’ve seen personally is tall girls being 6ft only I’ve only heard one short girl say she wants at least 6”2 but has dropped it tbh. I’m 21 only 5”9 for reference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 10:35 AM
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True majority of PUAs are rubbish but the ones who are good blow out the average guy, Chad and/or natural out of the water. Yes there’s on guy who I mostly learned from on YouTube I believe and can tell personally that has NPD and ASPD with his tactics and another company that are very dark triad and outright teach manipulation. Tbh gaslighting for example is a form of frame control but on the extreme end. There have been moments where I listened to PUA tactics and given me flashbacks on when I …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 02:58 PM
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That’s not a PUA or you’re old as fuck because no serious/good PUA advocates and teaches negging in this day and age. On this sub and sometimes irl women and some men claim that you can spot a fake/you can’t change your personality at all and you should give up if you are behind on social dynamics which is nonsense coming from someone who is a clinical narcissist and has to mask and mirror boy language. If anything women on Reddit would be the easiest for me to fake a personality, manipulate and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 01:17 PM
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Claiming they “don’t care about muscles” or “muscles don’t matter” yet going crazy over some fit don at the gym or catching them looking at me when their man ain’t looking but then again it’s a reddit thing I barely hear it irl. claiming that they can spot disingenuousness, fake behaviour/personality in a guy attempting to learn game/PUA but somehow woman beaters, narcissists, sociopaths, conmen, abusive men can have LTRs and hookups. Always gives me a chuckle that one. On here wanting to argue …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 06:00 PM
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That guys a PUA, I know so cause that comes from this YT channel I used to watch and he got his bio from him lol and I use parts of it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 08:44 AM
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Aren't you a blackpiller? I thought you guys deny the existence of and hate game/PUA? If so that's the first time I've ever heard one talk and use the tactics involving LMR.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 01:43 AM
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Actually diagnosed? If so yeah I highly advise any neurotypical man not to date one as they're low functioning most of the time, they get completely destroyed by these women. Combine that with NPD, bipolar or even ASPD? God bless you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:50 AM
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Ding ding ding, this is the same sub that thinks social skills don't matter with women lmao yet praise us for being successful when that's the main catalyst to why we do so well. They also forget women do well in dating who have any cluster B personality disorder/dark triad and PPD men would be a target for such women cause they're so socially retarded. And why anyone would want to have NPD or ASPD is beyond me like these losers like come on its a personality disorder lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 01:39 AM
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Nah for 99% of men cause their IG is dead
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 09:20 AM
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This is an interesting question as someone with NPD and ASPD traits as I have done all those things apart from the second bullet point and have lovebombed, lied, manipulated and gaslighted people so I know this stuff works and for the most part I done it unintentionally but at the same time sexual strategy is amoral so I don't have any issue with any man doing it to achieve sexual success. They just have to know the caveats though. I had mainly done this when I was lower functioning now I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:58 PM
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I’ve been meaning to make a post about cluster B personality disorders/dark triad because im sick of the nonsense about what’s spouted about us. And these retards thinking we go mask off when talking to women. When no it’s the opposite and they are ignorant as to why we do it. Along with us having struggles maintaining long term relationships(not just romantically) and how in the short term yes it does work.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:59 PM
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Don’t worry there’s loads of bullshit and myths about narcissism, the worst one for me personally is the RPers talking about dark triads being successful after “a true narcissist wouldn’t/can’t know they’re a narcissist”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:48 PM
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Clinical narcissist here and she’s right, well for mostly vulnerable narcissists that is. We build/have a fragile sense of self. We’re good at masking too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 11:55 AM
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Some guys though will always be in a permanent bulk because of their body/bone structure and will never have to cut. Plus lean bulking is an option also with an emphasis on focusing on the muscles women find attractive. A super skinny ectomorph bloke will never have to cut
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 10:26 PM
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Autism=/=neurodiversity me not being neurotypical helps me a lot with women and I have the lowest of the lowest inhibition you can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 08:09 AM
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Hahaha that gif is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:28 PM
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It’s the way my brain is wired along with women being apart of my external validation. Eventually I’ll get bored I believe around 4-500 bodycount and then I’ll settle down or at the very least slow down and travel. I think if I reach higher then I’ll become miserable and be in a brutal cycle. Also banging this many women is a part time job even as a guy with my looks and game, to the point where I don’t do dates anymore for more time and it’s boring to me. I actually prefer real life because onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:06 PM
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Its insane you can be arguing for ages with some mediocre clapped woman how some toothpick of a man at 63kg 5"11 is somehow more attractive than some guy who is 5"11 at 12% bf 84kg of lean muscles yet IRL i don't know any guy who is successful with women and doesn't put effort in the gym and in his appearance in general. These women are no better than these incels discouraging them to max out their appearance and telling them indirectly to give up and stay skinny to obese out of their own insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 09:00 PM
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I don't I came into this by accident, my dad is the reason though why I am what RP and PUAs consider a natural and he is also. He was a top salesman before he retired and so a lot of what he taught me about was basically sales tactics, he had his flaws and he is the reason why I have a personality disorder but he hit the mark when it came to women. He and my uncle was the one who always emphasised the importance of image and how to protect yourself as a man with fists. But I have an obsession wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 08:30 PM
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People hate that one the most because most people are useless wasters who cant commit to anything that requires any modicum of effort. Tbf on here it doesn't help that the average woman here lies and virtue signals that muscles don't matter to women and some claim there's no difference a man will experience even at the most extreme ends. But PPD men should bash into their heads that the women here=/=the average woman as these women are obviously not the norm. Especially for a hot woman every hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:41 AM
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Never seen a guy who bangs gym and struggles to get women, and if so they're outliers not the norm. Every guy who seriously, and I mean training to failure, not permanently bulking, focusing on the main muscles for women i've never seen fail. Like most men they were average-slightly above average and their whole appearance and behaviour change. Because unlike this sub gym goers do not have this perpetual vicitm mentality and extreme low self esteem. Only on PPD can someone genuinely believe some…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 06:24 PM
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But there are a lot of cases where maxing out everything you can will provide little, if any, benefit to dating. In these cases, I don't it's necessarily bad for men who got dealt a bad hand in the genetics department to give up. A PPD man/incel/blackpill on reddit=/=the average man despite how lazy and medicore he is nor is a deformed man the norm. Don't extrapolate guys on here to the wider populace. Most men would benefit immensely just by going the gym for aesthetics as it did for me as I ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:16 AM
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Even with genetics the lifestyle choices of English people post 25 is an absolute nightmare. I wonder if Australian people have the same issue cause the genetics are the same pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:09 PM
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The only correct thing you said has to do with improving physical appearance. That's the only meaningful issue one can and will have in a short-term mating context. Everything else is jive. And what if they're getting approached by women and getting blown out except for desperate women and the women that they want despite giving them overt indicators of interest it quickly fizzles out due to them running out of things to say, being boring, lacking social awareness and common sense? Cause that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:45 PM
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In England? Hell no especially outside big cities. Most men will let themselves go.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:56 PM
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Uh no even if they weren’t so worried about the opinions of others if they don’t bother running volume, improving their physical appearance if it’s a looks issue or their social skills then they’ll be still be stuck in the same place. Yes it does lol my own results and my friends prove this we’ve all benefited from teachings from PUA. I do and say better things than I previously did pre-PUA and my bodycount matches that with the rate I achieved it along with the quality. And I’ve seen womens fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:34 PM
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Just because they’re hard wired to fuck doesn’t mean that they’re successful nor happy with their current predicament as well as not displaying the qualities that makes them good enough to have sex. I don’t see what’s wrong with improving your dating prospects? There’s plenty of people who have sex but want to improve further. Most people have mediocre sex lives and settle only about 1-5% of men are truly autonomous in terms of sexual success. PUA in my view if taught properly will do so as its …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:29 PM
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They wouldn't be able to do it because their social skills are so bad I don't even believe they can say hello in a normal tone of voice and we've been practicing our whole lives+different motivations on why we do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:03 PM
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And they also forget that we actually have social skills, something PPD men constantly disregard, say that it doesn't matter lol and neglect when talking about us and also sociopathic and narcissistic women are also really good at getting men. I'll probably make a post about this soon cause I can't stand the nonsense they say about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:02 PM
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Lol half of this response is so woo woo and superfluous with of course zero alternative good advice from anti-game and moderating behaviour adherents but I'll respond. It doesn't really matter whether they're about the judgement of others its objective fact that you can increase the probability of being successful sexually by taking external actions and internal actions. Its totally asinine to suggest a man who is passive, meek, can't look people in the eye, extremely delayed body language, does…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:50 PM
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I deffo like the vibe and mentality of northern, welsh and midlands girls and just going out in general. The difference going out back in Birmingham or further up north of me and down south is outstanding. Its like two different cultures regarding social interaction. A lot easier to pull and date midlands and northern girls also. Oh god don't get me started on those women and that demographic, there's nothing more I cannot stand than those uni middle class tossers I constantly encounter at this …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:27 PM
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Yeah I'm at uni in the south east and I'm from a working class area/background in Birmingham. I'm 21 so the girls down south I've noticed are better looking especially on tinder but the older and more working class the more stereotypical looking British woman is. I've been up certain working class areas like Stoke and up north and my fucking goodness i can't believe people like this are reproducing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:03 PM
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If its looks for a woman in the UK I'd say 18-24 after that its pretty brutal how bad older British women don't take care of themselves due to the excessive drinking+below average genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:42 PM
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Just be yourself doesn’t work though if you yourself is socially awkward, lack of positive reinforcement asocial, a pathological personality, overbearing or lack complete social skills and confidence. And for casual sex and going on dates you can still mess it up even with a girl that was initially attracted to you if you demonstrate off putting behaviours. Unless you’re content banging slightly above average to uggos which the men here don’t want then yeah you can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:15 AM
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Its both and largely a tool, what you do with it is down to the individual. There's nothing wrong with banging loads of women and never seeing them again using PUA. Likewise there's nothing wrong with having a rotation or using PUA to serially date and vet for a gf. Being in a relationship isn't a hallmark of success if that's the only thing you can get, having autonomy over your dating life is which is also a part of what PUA teaches you. If being in an LTR is seen as successful you wouldn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:50 AM
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This tiktok is gives me PTSD flashbacks except this snowbunny was a fat white woman in question https://www.tiktok.com/@calebden5/video/7117406130661281066?is\_from\_webapp=1&sender\_device=pc&web\_id=6936420959151375878
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:40 AM
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this video gives me flashbacks https://www.tiktok.com/@calebden5/video/7117406130661281066?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=6936420959151375878 only difference was this fat white woman who thought every black guy just worships her and i brutally rejected her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:37 AM
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They say they’d be happy because they had never ever put themselves in the position of being that guy. Or they have terrible self esteem and confidence or no social skills. That’s why they settle for the women they don’t want. Whenever they see a Chad with an average to below average they only see the smoke and mirrors they don’t actually know the ins and outs and trust me these men are NOT happy at all. If a good looking man relies off being approached he won’t be satisfied and will miss a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:28 AM
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It’s based off the way a man carries himself. I can tell within two minutes if a man can get girls or not just by him speaking about any topic. Even on here I can tell somewhat of the guys who aren’t lying about women and do get laid regularly. I can also do this as well if a man can actually fight or not especially if they’re trained. And sizing up different personalities in general so I can mask properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:35 AM
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Exactly. PPD men are liars when they say Stacy rains down and bends over backwards for good looking men. Or how good looking men don’t do anything to attract and retain women. They’ll be in for a shock if they think their autism or just piss poor social skills would be overlooked by beautiful women if they just had a nice face.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:38 AM
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I’m saying this because there’s a stupid and false narrative that good looking men are approached by Stacy extremely often by men on here and I’m sick of them lying or overrating the woman’s attractiveness. Or saying the most exaggerated if not false stories about how women treat good looking men. Or the idea that we are happy banging average women or uggos no we or at the very least my handsome friends and I are Stacy only. I almost felt bad for one of my Chads exes because he settled for her a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 01:31 AM
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Yes my ex gf she done something like this and she was always around my vicinity and then peep some eye contact before looking away and going somewhere else as a sign for me to approach. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:51 PM
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Have you had those moments where she literally refuses to let go of you even when you say you have a gf and yours (and even their) friends try and get her off of you. Its super desperate and completely embarrassing and then she gets upset at YOU for not "telling her earlier".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:35 PM
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Yes I always advise women to let a man approach you, it is truly a disadvantage for a woman to approach a man from my experience being friends with men who're the top 5-1% in male attractiveness. If a woman is truly desirable and feminine she'll have no trouble finding suitors without approach I've seen this time and time again. Also when a woman says "women approach men all the time" its always a 5.5-6 max who says this and I know she's the stereotype. When PPD men proclaim these theories and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:23 PM
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Facts and PPD men(and some men who hate good looking men for their genes) should adopt your mindset. And even with these women that approach us some still expect us to put in a bit of work just so they don't want to look shallow or its simply not enough just to use your face. But for sure I can confirm I do look down upon women that approach me whether its a looks issue or their personality, there's been correlations I've found with women who approach and negative personality traits. Even legit …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:16 PM
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Trust me and they always have this scary desperation or acting like a fuckgirl where they just yearn to sleep with a good looking man and have that type of validation. Its so embarrassing when they never take rejection well with the "Are you gay" allegations hahahaha. Stacy at most will give IOIs for you to approach in my experience and due to the sheer amount of options you have to sharp.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 02:03 PM
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These stories about how good looking guys are approached the PPD men who talk about this always omit the woman's attractiveness. I already know for a fact their friends bang uggos or average looking women or women who live off male validation who aren't even hard to sleep with even if you are average. Idk why they get so jealous of us like no we have to put in effort for the women we want lookswise just like you do. Its super awkward as well rejecting these women. No truly attractive woman who i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:26 PM
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As a guy who gets approached often trust me its not even hot women approach me on a regular and that's the same for my other good looking friends. Its always women who're inferior to us lookwise. Idk why they think they stand a chance when we're so much better looking than them. All of us have concluded we'd rather approach women. Out of 10 women I'd say maybe two are worth a number. Women who're equal to above (8s+) rarely to never(if they're black) approach and if they do then there's somethin…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 01:10 PM
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Nah it’s not that they’re hot it’s the girls who like roadmen(our version of thugs/hood dudes). A lot of black dudes like girls from the ends(what we call the hood over here) cause of insane sex appeal and how they carry themselves in my experience. The nerds or not even nerdy just non street black guys just don’t accept nor realise this. It’s obvious to me from a mile away these types of black girls(with exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 01:09 PM
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Hahahaha my favourite part is how they theorise and reply about how good looking guys are to me, a good looking guy and other friends who are extraordinarily handsome. It’s hilarious how they think good looking men don’t do anything to get Stacies and other BS takes+ “stories” I’ve seen on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:55 PM
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Correct on the first three the most results though were from game/swag.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:48 PM
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Yes if they are lesbian and if they have a cluster B personality disorder. Sociopathic, narcissistic and psychopathic women are excellent at seduction and know men very very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:43 PM
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Nah most are between 5”4-5”11 (I’m 5”9)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:42 PM
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About 75% of my lays are white women living in an area where black people are 10% and in my university 2-0.8% so can’t relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 12:39 PM
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Stats wise its pretty rare but in uni culture or just around party scenes you'd eventually meet one who at the very least claims to have hit triple digt bodycount. Yeah on here PPD underestimates the importance of location and volume, not necessarily even the people but even the geography of the place can make a huge difference in pulling the girl back to your place. You already have an issue in terms of logistics and running volume by your admission. Yes I've heard America has some the ugliest …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 04:34 AM
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Hahahaha I said something similar to my wing it was shameful how many women he missed by who approached him and gave him IOIs and he constantly blew it. He had the lowest social IQ I had ever come across. He was also really unhappy with his options as the most attractive woman he could get max for LTRs were 7s and even that was debatable. Whenever women his looks level liked him it never ever went anywhere because he was so bad at game. His online convos were like what you described as well befo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:10 PM
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You sound a lot like my wing in the first paragraph before I taught him game. Very handsome but couldn’t get the consistent quality he wanted(and what society expected of him) both online and offline. Now he’s basically a unicorn to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 08:51 AM
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I know
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 12:49 PM
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Tate is mixed race not white although very Mediterranean passing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 03:34 AM
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Correct as someone with NPD who sleeps around a lot and masks, probably the best(although slightly misinformed) take on dark triad/cluster b disorders. especially describing the difference between high and low functioning
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 10:51 AM
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Yes I do actually plan making a post on men and women with cluster B disorders AKA dark triads and explain how in our cases personality does actually matter to women(and men) its just not the way PPD men think along with abusive relationships. You've never met anyone with triple digit laycount or doing it in a certain time period? I go uni in the UK, south of England student city and my hometown is Birmingham. Online, bars+clubs and parks during the spring-summer time occassionally My minimum st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:53 AM
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134 pounds Nah not anymore, I'm 77kg (probably more due to Christmas) haven't weighed that in awhile+I was focused on fighting at the time. My original starting point was about 59-61kg.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:52 AM
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What? How does that got anything to do what I’ve said? And that’s odd how I’ve banged almost 200 women (who now approach me almost every night after going to the gym from 59-61kg btw) unless you’ve got the wrong person cause that don’t apply to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 10:55 PM
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What no way they said this?😂😂😂😂😂😂 some man are so lazy. I’m 77kg at 5”9 and I’ve never taken a drug in my life and it’s obvious that I lift. Lol PPD men and self awareness are oxymorons, it’s like describing themselves as average despite having zero attention from women since secondary school lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 08:05 PM
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Thanks bro I’ve just been going crazy over the last two years or so. This year if I actually want to get a degree, and do more activities in my life I have to and will do significantly slow down my numbers. I think the year after I’ll do 100+ easily after slightly missing out. 40 at the same age is solid though you definitely have the foundation to do incredible numbers in a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 06:45 PM
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Never, I do Maths with Computer Science at uni and will go into either finance or tech after uni and these guys are shit with women because they have piss poor social skills and do not take care of themselves at all. These men put differential equations over having basic human functionality and valuing their appearance. No amount of money will make someone more sexually attractive and arousing to a woman. Its the least important factor and always will be. As much as you guys hate that word, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 05:22 AM
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21M, 181 lays
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 12:59 AM
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Yeah I’d have thought so, it’s no different then to us it seems but you’re not as intense excluding certain states I’ve heard some Americans are proper hard drinkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:10 PM
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Ah it’s not too dissimilar to what we do except we do it at 15-16 ish trying to get into clubs and bars after transitioning from largely house parties. What’s the ratio and cover cost you have to meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 05:04 PM
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In American unis is frat culture basically the bedrock of drinking? Cause you lot can drink at 21 legally and that’s when you graduate your bachelors right so I’m wondering how do you navigate that if you’re not part of that scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:52 PM
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Well personally I always make sure the woman’s more attractive than me for LTRs and then if it’s for a night/causal then a 7 minimum. Dunno about other men or women tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:36 PM
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Beginning with S and ends with N? The place without us is super boring but then that causes us to have mad parties in accom and the local parties. COVID year was dead but was made up for it these last two. We also go to the other city 30 minutes down the train. WHAT NO WAY??? You’ve got to be lying about the Frats our closest equivalent is societies and the Rugby, swimming and football are the closest ones to frat boys and general lad culture. That’s why the frats are stereotyped as a breeding g…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 04:34 PM
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Wait you live in Birmingham or from there? And if it’s the MMA gym I’m thinking of you go to that one? And in the average tall guy looks malnourished whenever I’m out those tall guys at your gym are an exception. Most young men don’t eat these days nor cannot fight which renders any height “advantage” useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 09:59 PM
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There's also cockblocking friends and even the fucking bouncers lmao. Nah not always when you're running high volume. And I go uni in a place with 300k people so I've had moments where they refuse to get with me cause I slept with their friend and even half sister in one case even tho there's attraction due to me sleeping with so many girls. I also go for the most attractive girls at the club for same night lays and don't rely off women who approach me/give me IOIs as a personal preference. You'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:59 PM
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Yeah you constantly get the objection "I'm not that kind of girl" or "I can't leave my friends" you can do everything right be the best looking best game etc but them trying to be not like the other girls kicks in. I've had (along with my friends) way too many nights where we thought we'd pull, speaking and escalating to the girl all night but because the girl was so resistant to going home with us we'd blow out/cut the interaction. I've fingered women on a dance floor tell me "I'm not that kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 08:32 PM
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I’m not a southerner but this is especially true up north and in the midlands in my experience and for my age group. Those women especially uni girls love dick like it’s for scientific research. Pulling in the south of England especially in the south east though is way way harder than in the north or midlands though in a nightclub or bar. Southern girls would rather do it in a house party or off tinder or hinge than some rando in a club even after making out with them, fingering them, even them …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:31 PM
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I’d first of tell them to maximise your main avenues as that’s where your lead sources will be. Then teach them what to do in an interaction both in a nighttime environment, texting and on a date. Then I’d teach them retention strategy. Then if we’re out I can point out what he’s doing right and wrong both verbally and non verbally, then if it’s online game I’ll do the same but with photos, bio and texting. I’d put them first through online dating because it’s the most efficient form of dating b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 07:02 PM
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Correct you do get jumpings out of nowhere and there’s hits being done but there’s also plenty of 1v1s its more prevalent in YOIs and Cat As and some of the Cat A guys are trained or even former pro boxers. Warren Slaney is one guy that comes to mind when demonstrating his fighting skills in prison everyone whose been dispersals know how exceptional of a fighter he was and he was consistently KOing guys who redditors would think would flatten him before he got put in the hole. Also he was gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:44 PM
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Oh so you’re telling me Muslims don’t run dispersals in the country apart from Frankland, stabbings don’t happen, fights don’t happen, men getting jumped outta nowhere doesn’t happen it’s all a happy holiday camp🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I never said “gladiator fight” at all in adult prisons you’re putting words into my mouth. Nor did I or anyone else claims someone would die out of a 1v1. You’ve completely made that up out of thin air. In Cat As they most certainly are stabbings and killings in prison this has b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 10:30 AM
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How big are you? Ain’t no way you’re beating a professional boxer especially one at the elite level unless you’re some wrestler/judoka/grappler.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:42 AM
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These guys I’m talking about are in mostly Cat As and youth prisons not Cs or Bs except for one. There’s organised fights especially when it kicks off/there’s some beef. If not 1v1 then they will try to kill you or seriously give you a life changing injury. Even in Bs they go in the cells 1v1 if they’ve got beef and it hasn’t been squashed and they scrap. That’s if it’s not unexpected/a jumping. The only lot that don’t do that are the Muslim brotherhood who jump anyone who fucks with them. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:26 AM
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Over what? Cause they don’t do it over women at all in fact it’s the bottom of the reasoning. Unless you’re talking about surviving and making fast money. But that doesn’t mean they’re not posturing or pretending at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:38 PM
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Oh well duh obviously but that's an extreme outlier men aren't either super short or super tall though. And I never said it doesn't give you an advantage I am just saying not all short dudes are weaklings and in fact most tall men I see are emaciated where I live, I rarely see a tall man of a normal weight at his height to the point where they'll be a significant disadvantage to the shorter dude. And correlation=/=causation in this regard. I noticed you completely ignored the Pacquiao Vs Fury hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:20 PM
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No worries. Oh in the case yes I agree kind of, if you know how to fight it does give other positive affects similar to the gym. For a few women that clear objective fact that a guy can fight can trigger that protection feeling she has around a tall man. But its largely other factors that hits a woman's attraction circuitry when you develop these skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:08 PM
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That depends on the prison and what country you're in, there's plenty of organised 1v1 fights in your prison cell its not always unexpected jumpings or stabbings. This is especially true in youth prisons where its gladitor school. Also its relevant when people on here are saying short guys cannot possibly fight whether trained or street or be tough in terms of reputation/fear. These short guys have battered these tall men that have the weight advantage 1v1. That's common sense but nothing is eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:03 PM
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Lol is this not a CMV post? I'm just telling you the reasoning and examples. You seem annoyed tho by guys mentioning this did some short dude spark you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:14 PM
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Eh its in response to men who say short dudes can't fight, can't be tough, strong or KO a tall(er) man. And its not a hypothetical scenario when you've seen in play out IRL before for example I've seen an acquaintance of mine who trained at my former Muay thai gym KO a 6"4 man who started the fight/mouthing off and warned him multiple times in a smoking area of a nightclub. This is also plays out in prison consistently ex convicts say the most dangerous and toughest men are short(er) guys and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 07:02 PM
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Agreed a lot of guys here love excuses and wallow in self pity way too much and have extremely visible low self esteem. I can tell in their interactions with women they're extremely spineless and/or exhausting to be around along with them never turning off their STEM brain. Also they have way too many misconceptions to completely false narratives about good looking men and constantly project male sexuality onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:47 PM
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Agreed with you on what? And also Europe isn't just one big culture and place of the same people genetically and socially speaking lol Azerbaijan is not the same as France. And most North Americans definitely do not lift given there's an obesity crisis there I'm sure the % of men who workout is also pretty small and the ones who aren't fat are skinny-fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 06:03 PM
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how many tall guys are walking around with t-rex arms? not many. Lol there's loads of noodle armed tall men, most young men barely eat food these days. The average tall man in my age group is at least 138lbs/63kg and doesn't lift a weight(most men don't tbf). A 200lbs tall man is like 1 in 100 and one who can fight is 1 in 1000. The one guy I know at that weight is a amateur boxer+is in the army. You're only seeing athletes as the average tall man and thinking it applies to every tall man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:48 PM
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Agreed, PUA attracts dudes who're on the spectrum or are extreme failures with women on average and lets say if canned lines are given by an instructor they're not realising its just an application of a concept. One example of this is demonstrating higher value through preselection and a PUA would give a line as an example of how to do it but the average PUA enthusiast would take that way to heart and would say it without the subcommunications and the context being aligned. Nowadays modern PUAs …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:41 PM
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Really I'd have loved to see that LMAO I think peacocking on a smaller level is correct but for sure given the demographic of men that go into PUA it was bound to be misinterpted. I'm not an old school PUA so I don't really know what it was like back then but that's so fascinating and hilarous. I've also heard of certain clubs in the US being swarmed with extremely uncalibrated and awful PUAs which blew the event out. Like you'd have dudes approach one girl, she'd reject him infront of her frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:18 PM
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Yeah in that case I'd agree cause women love men who stand out from other men, its why alphas are so attractive but if every dude was one the appeal goes away.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:13 PM
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What if they actually are though? Like not every short dude grows up in cookie cutter white picket fence America lol. You think cartel members who'd have no problem flaying you, pro fighters or short men in prison are overcompensating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:09 PM
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Couldn't maximising your looks be a form of peacocking towards a certain demographic of women? Like wearing necklaces, rings and chains along with wearing fitted clothes that's congruent to your build. Or getting tattoos in the right areas in order for you to stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 05:06 PM
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Logically yes, tactically and emotionally no due to how my brain works. If it happens it’s really easy for me to backwards rationalise it and reframe it in an extremely narcissistic/delusional way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 04:00 PM
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They fail to understand that some level of human interaction and a dynamic of some kind has to be built between two people, even for casual sex. They assume that life is like porn and that women are just supposed to instantly drop their panties and bend over because he's horny. It's a projection of male sexuality and what they'd do if they're woman and only seeing and analysing of what they claim is attractive mens interactions with women which I already have huge skepticism over and believe mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:52 PM
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Why wasn’t I getting approached by women almost every night when I was skinny then? Shouldn’t I have had women worshipping me at my feet, do all the work for me if my face was good enough when I was 60-61kg? It’s not like I didn’t have any success hooking up and having dates I used more of my charisma and superficial charm back then and I am dark triad in the clinical sense which has nothing to do with looks. No woman on planet earth has ever commented nor notices my wrists that’s male projectio…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:43 PM
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A top 10% man in facial attractiveness is a male model, a movie star he’s most certainly not hanging around with commoners. He’s the type where you’d be like wow cause he’s so rare. Majority of men aren’t like this. I just went to the gym and I was skinny beforehand and never got approached by women this sub constantly says there’s no point improving your looks and going to the gym. Now you’re saying it’s all genetics lol. Most men are in the middle stop pretending as if the outlier is the norm.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:24 PM
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What mainstream narrative lol since when does mainstream outlets on TV and social media talk about this on a consistent basis? Lol I’ve been doing this before I became good looking and so did one of my former wingmen who was a 5.5. We didn’t have any problems going for it. Do you know how rare a man like that is in terms of facial attractiveness? Vast majority of people would never see a man like that just from the circles they hang out with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:10 PM
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Reviled by who? Stop reading fringe takes by terminally online people. I find it funny how you could only nitpick that because im right.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 03:03 PM
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Well they're unattractive-average looking i don't bang nor date such women there's no need for me to I don't want nor desire a long term relationship, these women are too LTR oriented and wait past my time limit for sex which is date 2 They're too into genetic determinism in terms of personality, like idk how they believe a man can't fake a persona for 30 minutes to shag a woman yet there's men out here who've swindled the masses and women are the main victims of romance scams. Also as someone w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:18 PM
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All the languages in the world and you chose to speak facts. Absolutely based and this guy fucks. I forgot to mention as well establishing yourself as a sexual authority is hugely hugely important as it demonstrates preselection and you’re comfortable in your own sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 03:45 PM
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It’s basically you having to express your attraction to her. For majority women you need to be setting man-woman frames consciously, knowing how to physically and sexually escalate, teasing, flirting (although overrated) building sexual tension using compliance testing/ladders, moving the conversation forward, knowing how to lead, using the right vocal tonality and other forms of sub communications. Basically what creates chemistry and the spark but obviously women think it’s natural reality is …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 07:27 PM
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Man 21 years old: High laycount for my age generally speaking would be 30. That’s where I and my best friends got comments that we’re a fuckboy and was recognised by society as a slayer. Yes my laycount is extremely high for my age, the only thing I was disappointed by is how I didn’t shag 100 women this year. Only 80 I achieved. In 4-5 years I should achieve my target goal of around 4-500 lays. I think around 250 I’ll slow down a little cause I’ve caught chlamydia twice and gonorrhoea once.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 06:51 PM
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How can you watch Fresh and Fit speak for 3 minutes and analyse their subcommunications and vocal inflections and conclude that these men are worthy for advice on picking up women? At least with Tate you can tell instantly this guy is a slayer and got women without superficial means just from the way he carries himself and he uses his dark triad traits to his advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 05:44 PM
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I have an extremely high sex drive, I also get every satisfaction I need from women casually and I have good solid platonic relationships and my therapist so my emotional needs are filled. I cannot think of anything worse than being the average dude in dating I need variety that’s the way my brain works. You’re correct that part of my self esteem is female validation externally but ignoring that I’d have still been fucking around loads. It’s not hard at all cause you inevitably get girls that ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 03:06 PM
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Nah I actually became more of a manwhore after I learned formal pickup and I got my head sorted after my ex broke up with me/therapy. Like this year I banged 80 girls for instance and then the previous year in 5 months or so I banged 50 girls. I’ve never banged a girl below a 6 and I keep my quality high. That’s just a misconception that guys who are sport fuckers significantly fuck down. All of my other friends are the same except for one guy before he met me. I could get into a relationship to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 02:03 AM
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We’re more online focused and date/hookup in clubs and house parties. That’s the guys who are acceptable to look at and have actual social skills. It’s a sigh of relief when I can find a man my age that can look me in the eye, hold a conversation properly and good social awareness. Most men my age(and in general) are pathetic, weak, virtue signallers, neurotic and lazy. They only get into relationships because they have no other alternative really they just have a “she’ll do” mentality. For me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:35 AM
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Fair point I’ll give you that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:25 AM
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Nah but I would the next time I’m in a long term relationship but idk what and how to set it up properly. If I’m not then I’ll discard or cheat cause I’m a slave to my sexual impulses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 12:14 AM
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I need some time to take off my mask and feel more comfortable. So a gf I wanna feel comfortable enough to do so to an extent. But yeah getting someone to admit a big thing like that you’d have better chance understanding vector calculus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:07 PM
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Yes if I’m in a long term relationship/seriously dating I’ll disclose to my partner that I have narcissistic personality disorder and I cheated and emotionally and mentally abused my ex when I was low functioning. Then the choice is there’s if they wanna stay with a sociopathic narcissist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:56 PM
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No they’d be invisible in my eyes cause they’re average looking and old mostly and too easy for me to fall back into bad behaviours (manipulating, gaslighting etc) cause of how they sound on here. Especially with the bullshit that they can sense a man faking a personality when they’re the easiest target/prey for men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 04:52 PM
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Cause I’m sexually successful and haven’t achieved all my goals in game. And I’m a sex addict. My self esteem and validation levels also women are a huge part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:25 AM
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Have you seen the average tall man though? Especially if they’re young most of them don’t even look like they can do a push up a lot of dudes regardless of height are either malnourished looking or fat as fuck. And the chances of some tall guy knowing how to fight is quite slim with the “weight advantage”.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 10:10 AM
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That same chick was basically stringing along her ex at the time and his opp which almost caused a stabbing a pub in the place where I'm @ her best friend also fucked some guy on road, they had an argument and she found out his opp, met with him, shagged him and went back to the original don and he ate her out. Yeah these two girls are like below working class like almost care home level so its understanable. What was her childhood like? I'm sure you'd find somewhere that chick has some arrested…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:23 PM
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Tbf this chick was a snowbunny who went to all white schools and just saw mayonaise everywhere but she had issues. But yeah agreed girls who like roadmen(our equivalent of hood), hardened criminals have these issues and even commit crimes themselves cause their vagina is so calibrated to that type of man. Proper bottom of the barrel. Also these women are the most disloyal women I have ever come across as well, lot of these beefs are started over a gyal sucking off or shagging his opp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:14 PM
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They need to clarify its an emotional feeling cause I had to have a debate with a friend who thinks he'd beat UFC champions cause he's 6"4 and goes gym. Its ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:05 PM
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There is a certain type of woman that doesn't but they always have the most backwards of childhoods I've ever come across. My ex coworker was like this and straight up admitted to me she likes street guys, trappers, gangbangers, fraud boys etc along with her best friend. Her ex she met him after a month he was released from prison for robbery, this dude had bragged to her also that he stabbed 11 men in his life. He also battered a girl in front of her (and her later on). I do respect her though …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:03 PM
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“Shorter”=/=short
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:56 PM
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Americans are more gun guys and more inhibited I’ve noticed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:43 PM
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Oh no doubt about that the effort is truly rewarding when you’re tall but generally you’re the exception. I agree that if a tall man bothers to maximise muscles and fighting skills they’d be an animal. My cousin is an example and a guy who went my secondary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:20 PM
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When they do they either immediately wanna back off or get battered so badly they’re in a hospital bed the next morning. I’ve seen way too many of these tall loudmouths KOd cold by shorter men who are trained and even weigh less in some cases. Best street fight I’ve ever seen was like this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:13 PM
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When do you actually see the average tall man actually bother going serious combat sports and weight training. Most of them look malnourished as fuck and barely lift a weight in their life the ones that do are exceptions. We’re talking man in their high 50s-low 70s in weight lmao. Plus shorter men have way more fighting experience on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 02:00 PM
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I had one guy seriously say he’d beat McGregor and anyone in MMA whose shorter and weighs less than him in a fight cause he’s 6”4 and weights more (105kg) than him genuinely. This dude struggled against a 5”9 63-64kg man trying to pin and take him down.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:43 PM
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What’s with tall men in real life and struggling to comprehend shorter men can be stronger and beat you badly in a scrap? These dudes egos are through the roof listening to TikTok hoes and believe the protection factor to literally. Like the most dangerous men consistently in prisons (at least in the U.K.) are shorter men around 5”7-5”10 lmao. So sheltered and ignorant lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:38 PM
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Fastest online dating was about 30-50 seconds. Fastest pull in a club cold approaching was 2-3 minutes. If they approached me like a 90 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:58 PM
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Exactly these guys think all short men have pittances to zero options you can even see it with some tall guy trying to backwards rationalise and trying to get digs at me cause he has some complex issue with short guys as his world view is threatened. Like he genuinely believed women don’t approach short men or can’t be more successful than tall men🤣🤣🤣. My best friend is an 8-8.5/10 in looks and he’s 5”10.5 and he’s incredibly handsome and is the third best guy I knew with women. I also knew a 5”…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:10 PM
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I’m a man Many reasons I’ll expand on this later when I’m home. Edit: anywho I hate humans in general and believe and know I am inherently better than them due to my brain structure. But modern men are just pathetic excuses of people, they’re very lazy, they’ll smile in your face whilst complain and bitch about you, whiny, victim mindset and have insane jealously over other sexually successful and other types of successful men. There’s always a hidden agenda with men once you become a slayer esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 12:05 PM
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Those men are in a minority unfortunately and what I’ve found when men are “praised” it’s in niche circumstances. Let’s say he’s average looking but bagged a woman who is above him looks wise or he consistently hooks up with women who are equal to or above his level then there’s some level of respect. Even then you still get the entitled failure of a man who thinks he should be getting women because of his looks alone or height. On here actually I had some dude try to protect his own ego and tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:04 AM
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I’m convinced it’s a projection from women cause when I tell my stories they’re glued in so intrigued and I don’t even brag or flex about it. And the fact they don’t wanna be judged as men in general hate promiscuous people. I honestly relate more to gay dudes than straight men on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:03 PM
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Women are women they're always going to be picky imagine thinking what's hardwired into them would all of a sudden change if they just moved like 30 minutes out of town to some village lol. And how does that mean average to slightly above average looking men mean they're completely doomed? Do you know how incredibly rare it is to see a handsome man maxed out in absolutely everything? How can you say women only want that when the vast majority of the population will never ever see a Matthew Noszk…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:49 PM
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In Poland it’s easy mode if you’re mixed race or black me and my best friend could’ve hooked up almost every day there and I’ve heard the same for Sweden. Like super super white areas if you’re black i have noticed there’s a niche but if you can apply yourself properly in the west you can do it anywhere tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:24 AM
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In the U.K. after the grooming gang scandal’s definitely Asian man unless they’re in the north of England or Birmingham/London. Mixed race men are on an equal level to white men. Chinese, Filipinos etc don’t exist basically in England. It can definitely be overcome though and outperform whites the race whiners here just have other deficits about them it’s never just their race.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:01 AM
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Just because there’s a certain type of woman that goes for white men doesn’t mean there’s plenty of others that don’t give a shit or prefer your own. A city like New York there’s no excuse whatsoever the volume of that city alone is a dream along with the gender ratio. Not saying it isn’t a factor but in a big city due to the volume alone it’s heavily reduced. I’d have agreed with you if it was like the Deep South or something similar whereby there’s a dominant minority group. Where do you guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:17 AM
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That’s just you only seeing a certain type of man in your vicinity and ignoring other types of men due to your stance on social/sexual dynamics. You claiming to know “many” still is a small sample size and what imagine using the race argument in New York of all places lol I go uni in an extremely white area and I don’t struggle in fact I can say the guys that do well are non white due to the circles I’m in. Your race is not such a detriment that you can’t get any women at all that’s laughable es…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:19 AM
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Nah drinks or dates straight to the house only first thank god British women don’t have this God complex on first dates. Why fix something that ain’t broken? Especially in this goddamn weather Those dates are for long term shit ngl except for the park and ice cream
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:44 AM
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How many men in this world have you seen are this ugly for this scenario to apply? Please where’s this magical place where the only men you see in this world are either gremlins or incredibly beautiful. You’d maybe have a point if seeing an ugly(not below average looking) man is very very common. My experience seeing a dude like that they’re visibly old and got an obvious bad accident. And that just sounds like total waffle for excuses on why one is lazy with girls if I’m honest. Please don’t as…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:16 AM
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Benefited mostly only harmful thing to me personally is I’m basically a sex addict I don’t really know if I can actually have a monogamous relationship ever again lol. But hitting triple digits really makes you know what women are all about on a level men who don’t slay will ever know tbh. The variety after securing a hot woman is by far the best part of slaying pussy icl. You also see what BS the myth that “men respect other men who bang loads of women is” reality is dudes don’t care, are jealo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:27 AM
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Theres an element of truth to what you’re saying especially for those who grew up in like all white schools and dress like a white girl but the rest it’s a genuine lack of attraction I’ve seen it and heard it. Most black dudes are with black girls though it’s a minority that does IR dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:40 PM
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76-77kg I’m cutting to around 73-74kg Were you a tall guy who’s more on the hardgainer side of things along with you doing intensive sports in school or uni? And those dude’s definitely do not work out they look malnourished if they do their genetics or diet is atrocious my first year flatmate and a few of my course mates we done weighing after me getting my gains fully and I weighed more than them despite being much shorter than them. It’s not really me exaggerating. Lol nah I’m a black belt in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:36 PM
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Yeah I’m jacked not skinny and the tall guys here are breadsticks like 60-63kg at 6”2-6”3 skinny. Like it’s so rare to see a meaty tall man let alone a guy who is tall and visibly lifts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:14 PM
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England you American?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:11 PM
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Maybe in America but black women here definitely definitely do not unless they’re completely whitewashed. If they wanna go out they wanna date mixed race.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:11 PM
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Please I’m a black man I’m totally aware of height preferences don’t condescend me but i don’t and never have struggled apart from a small dry spell. I didn’t say it doesn’t matter at all whats not clicking? I just said it’s overblown amongst girls my age. Disadvantage=/=can’t be overcome. You’re also under the assumption that all guys under that height have same face, same levels of personality, anxiety, easy levels of location.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:05 PM
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Please provide your source before making up such claims. Your algorithm also determines what content you want so there’s also confirmation biases at your end. Social media=/=real life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:03 PM
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I get approached almost every night by girls and I get 60-70+ matches combined in all apps and I live in the country with a 9:1 ratio. I don’t struggle at all with dating it’s easy to hookup with girls in my age range and do better than the vast majority of men for my age. Also I’m 5”9 not 5”6
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:59 PM
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Not wrong but at least get a better valid source like come on. And what % of 18-22 year olds of all personality archetypes in the west are on TikTok anyways? That app attracts a certain type of woman in behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:58 PM
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Does that mean you still can’t get a hot or any girl for that matter if you’re not 6ft? How does that negate what I said? Not that big of deal=/=doesn’t matter at all Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:53 PM
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Actually that explains it more from a black man but as long as you demonstrate other forms of masculinity superficially, mentally and through your mouthpiece with them it’s calm. 5”9 most of the guys I know that do well (abundance of options) with women are 5”8-5”10.5ish only one super tall guy in my group does well
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:51 PM
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Why are most posts’ main sources always Titkok teenage white girls lol imagine taking those women or that godforsaken app seriously and I’m gen Z under 6ft. Heights not that big of a deal above 5”6 in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:44 PM
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Agreed that’s why I’ve started vetting for women with competent social skills. Date’s basically have to come with a script and conversation threads with online dating it’s the definition of Groundhog Day. Vast majority of women are bad at making convo and verbally wanting to move the conversation forward but they’re decent to very good at encouraging a man to start and drive the conversation to both the parties main goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:46 PM
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Was he an exceptionally handsome man with charisma or some PUA? Only time I’ve heard that high of a laycount is one of those two cases for slightly different reasons. 400 lays he has got to be doing something calculated and precise. LMAO why all the downvotes it was a simple question wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:49 AM
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Only one the rest of us are sex addicts, in prison, impulsive etc and the girl I know with 100 lays at 19 is an extremely attention seeking validation girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:41 AM
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Just because your worldview is different from mine doesn’t make it fake lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:28 AM
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What I wrote is pretty tame to the stories I could’ve told. As if it’s so rare for men to sleep with women who’re taken and succeed 😂😂😂it’s pretty common in the hookup scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:26 AM
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Isn’t sexual strategy amoral according to you redpillers? And you lot on here being obsessed with casual sex and hooking up but can’t handle/shocked that men go after a taken woman if you’re that type of guy hahaha. And it’s not my relationship not my problem, I’m single so it’s not my responsibility to keep myself away from taken women. Why should I stop myself when the only obstacle is the bf? If they wanted their relationship to be fixed they should’ve done it way before I came into the pictu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 10:43 PM
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Looks like I hit a nerve and nice virtue signalling if you actually banged loads of girls you’d know this is an inevitability that a few of them are taken. Imagine going after me instead of the girls that decided to cheat 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:53 PM
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Out of the women I’ve banged who had boyfriends and fiancés the main two reasons were lack of emotional fulfilment and the guy being a useless fuck in the bedroom. Another factor was it was the tail end of their relationship like freshers week at uni so they were super easy so as long as you provided plausible deniability and help her backwards rationalise it. I also used to and (still do to a lesser extent )manipulated them into backwards rationalising why their bf is at fault and framed him as…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 08:44 PM
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It’s basically the reason why women approach me at clubs and bars lol. Especially if you’re black body game is exceptionally important if you can’t be arsed to learn game
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 07:46 PM
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Yeah cause I have a wider net to cast and I can be picky and choose any woman I want based off my standards just by sizing them up really.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 06:15 PM
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It depends which type of mental illness or disorder. Someone with visible autism isn’t the same as someone with a personality disorder/dark triad. The former is a disadvantage short term and long term and the latter is an advantage short term but a disadvantage long term if not high functioning. Both are neurodivergent though Obvious unattractive traits are atrocious looks, extremely short height, having anti game, being neurotic, having a chip on your shoulder, monotone vocal inflections, not b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 06:41 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 funniest comment I’ve seen on here by far. You’d think these man were living in a village the way they think women reject men. Oh and don’t forget the 10,000th projection of male sexuality onto women as a bonus
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:31 PM
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Add in the backwards rationalisation as to why he can’t approach or talk to women whenever someone suggests to run volume lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:40 PM
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Uh not if you’re black because if you actually know/spoke to black lesbians the expectations of what straight women expect of straight black men stereotypically due to media perception is what black lesbians are supposed to be picking up women and it’s almost non negotiable especially if they wanna date IR. Once they know this and sympathise with blacks who don’t meet that expectation they bang tons of women and are qualified to give advice to straight men and would have insane results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:44 PM
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If she’s a black or mixed race lesbian she’d be a slayer. Easily would do 50-100 girls a year based of the lesbians I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 04:25 PM
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Agreed it’s so rare to see a Chad in every single physical attribute the way men on here describe him. I just don’t know why on here some guys act like either only him or ugly men are the only two types of men that exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 09:23 AM
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If he’s actually doing the “right things”(whatever the hell that means) then he wouldn’t be having a struggle with women unless he’s in the middle of the rainforest with no civilisation or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:31 AM
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This is another “how don’t you know this already this is common sense” type of post we see like 5x a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 04:29 AM
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This should be more specified when it comes to the man like you won’t get much out of a guy whose a natural or some Chad/Tyrone who has been constantly validated his whole life. Also never listen to a married man they’re probably the most clueless out of men since they got cuffed before the rise of online dating and most are by their wives leash which is embarrassing ofc. Your best bet is listening to some average looking PUA who has demonstrated results (ideally above 100-200+ laycount also) if…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:45 AM
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No because I'll either find something about myself objectively that is better than her new man or if not I'll backwards rationalise and delude myself into thinking so until my ego is satisfied no matter how ridiculous it sounds to the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:19 PM
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That topic makes me wanna blow my head off with how much it gets talked about on here I’m ngl. That along with women who make you wait for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 03:17 PM
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Not really exposing I (regretfully) came here by accident and stayed but definitely this sub makes me go through the reactions of “ah this guy is spot on that’s a fascinating concept” to “this sub is so autistic and neurotic how do these losers not understand this is common sense” to “that’s absolute nonsense” when they talk about attractive looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 02:59 PM
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I grew up kind of in the ends to a upper working class area, the U.K. equivalent of the hood. I know plenty of men in my school who went prison and my cousin also is in prison at the moment for robbery and assaults. But agreed I could never get with a middle class girl long term they’re so unrelatable and boring. They’re super easy to bed though at least in the U.K. which shows how repulsive these redditors are how they constantly complain about these women are if they can’t bag them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:55 PM
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Absolute facts and extreme neuroticism, viable autism and not switching off their STEM brain destroys these men on here. I just cannot believe they’ve never ever been in working class areas and seen men who by societies standards are losers but do well with women cause of charisma and masculinity. And cannot compute that men who aren’t traditional looking models can have a successful dating life. And they think bad boys are just guys who says mean words but are good looking when that doesn’t mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:49 PM
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You simply wouldn’t if they’re not socially retarded, just how you wouldn’t spot a good PUA running game on you nor someone who is dark triad. And the fact that they have suboptimal tactics in game trying to pickup women so results will be limited. That’s if they actually try and not make excuses on why they can’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 12:58 PM
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Nah there’s nothing wrong with it so as long as you’re satisfied with your own results personally. Just don’t expect it to mean you’ll always close though and mean you can do fuck all. You can also cold approach and women can give you green lights to move the convo forward it’s not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 07:14 PM
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Probably those ones were attracted to you and those girls whom you liked weren’t or based off sub communications you carried yourself way better to the women you aren’t attracted to, you weren’t worried about the final outcome like one of the comments says.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 05:23 PM
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100 I agree we can do it I’m at 77 girls a year atm and my Chad best friend would’ve definitely banged 100+ if he didn’t settle down but 300 is impossible that’s a huge leap like bro we’d have no life whatsoever. Some of us are in school, work and need to eat lmao. The most I can do is 200 with all the free time and money in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 04:45 AM
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There it is. Can we just get to it next time? What are you on about? I just asked you a question A truly ugly man is very very very rare to see on the street to where your point is moot as most men are not disgusting to look at. Unless you're another one of these users on here that lives in a location whereby men are on either end of the attractiveness bell curve. Regardless if the guys below average facially, for example if he's 50kg/100lbs at 5"10 his face will definitely change and will go up…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 05:47 PM
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Point is(assuming you are the user that says this) that you can't really be saying women aren't against a man improving his dating prospects when you yourself states that going to the gym/bulidng muscle does not and is not worth it when trying to attract women when a guy is dissatisfied with his dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:46 PM
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? It wasn’t a rhetorical gotcha I was genuinely wondering if you were that same user im thinking of when it comes to this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:49 AM
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Aren’t you the same user that says a man going to the gym won’t improve his dating prospects/improve his look/women don’t like muscular men? Whenever someone suggests the idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:00 AM
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That’s not always the case regarding manipulation when I used to do it for bad intentions it was due to me not realising why it’s bad to manipulate someone for unscrupulous means. I also have a disgust for weak and vulnerable people so I think it’s pathetic personally and going for easy pickings. The only time when I need to do it is when it’s essential because there’s times I have do it because I don’t have certain emotions a neurotypical feels so I can fasten up the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:13 AM
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Yes there’s many many difficulties being dark triad that you have to navigate through. In my case it’s constantly seeking external validation, sensitivity to criticism, extreme black and white feelings of believing I’m the epitome of human perfection but having extreme self loathing and having the extreme spotlight affect. There’s also the issue of my personality just being a combination of people who I admire and envy by mirroring them I have no idea who i am as a person. And a lack of emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 08:53 AM
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Thank you I appreciate the kind words and discussion. Yeah hopefully one day I can find who I actually am as a person and try not to rely solely on external validation+ do therapy so well that NPD basically remains dormant. At the end of the day being a good or a bad person is a choice along with compassion and thus just because i have a mental disorder doesn't mean I shouldn't act as well as I possibly can. Plus I can use the benefits of it to try and help/warn people who have bad intentions al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:05 PM
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Before the diagnosis I was definitely more overt nowadays I’m still extroverted but I’m more of a social chameleon and despite being incredibly incredibly difficult not to do the bad behaviours and show off narcissistically I manage myself more cause I know what I am. I’d say for me it’s a combination of genetics and childhood, my family has a history of personality disorders and other mental illnesses disproportionately NPD, Schizophrenia and ASPD. My childhood when I used to be upset and cry m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 09:54 AM
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It’s funny you say that because I initially went in for depression and forced family intervention as I had suffered a narcissistic collapse without me realising it as my life had capitulated around me. One of the factors was my ex. My first reaction to the official diagnosis was of course denial but the more I researched it the more it made sense to me and slowly became a sigh of relief along with huge huge shame to why I am different behaviourally and in thought to normal people. It’s very very…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:54 AM
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From my coworkers ex relationship they basically trauma bonded and the guy had bipolar so when he’d smack her up it was in his episodes. So whenever he didn’t switch she said she’d give him many many more chances as tbh she’s a very forgiving person. Honestly hearing my coworkers life story she’s the type of woman that would fall into this situation especially since she goes for criminals. Her ex is about 6”0-6”1, mixed race, masculine, bad boy in and out of prison, stabbed multiple men. Very do…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:39 AM
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I’ve been to therapy and until my latest one it was awful due to my mental disorder and so I found it painfully boring and I was tempted to manipulate those garbage therapists to get out of it. My latest one is excellent and lets me go mask off, internalise my feeling and helps me cope with narcissistic personality disorder along with making me extremely self aware. There are still problems that I have which will take a long way to go but this one is really really good
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 01:22 AM
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My cousin, my former friend and my coworkers ex bf are bad boys. They’re criminals and my cousin in particular is in prison at the moment for robbery and my former friend got done for being a woman beater as well as my coworkers ex. This guy(the coworkers ex) is one of those south London gang members had also been in and out of prison, bragged to her and in general how he’s stabbed 11 men. They actually met when he just came out of prison also. All these guys have never struggled with girls ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 08:39 PM
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Diagnosed narcissist here who is above average looking/gets approached often and you’re spot on. It’s absolutely true what you’ve said here a confident narcissist is an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 08:15 PM
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Yeah as a clinical narcissist I agree with this, I don’t even know who I truly am as a person(I’m figuring this out in therapy) as my personality is just a jumble of mirroring other people who I admire and envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:24 AM
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I am not sure by what you mean by stereotypes? As in looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 04:05 AM
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Going to the gym and clean bulking basically made women approach me almost every night I go out and my facial features changed quite drastically I went from 58-60kg to 73.5kg. Before gym I was a 6.5 I’d say and then afterwards I’m now a 7.5. There is definitely a huge difference in how people let alone women treated me tbh not all the time will your face stay the same. Also guys don’t put priority in the physical features that are attractive to women they take the bulk bro meme way too far think…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:55 PM
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Lol it’s far easier and cheaper maxing out your looks and game in your own nation than throwing the towel in and fucking off to third world nations. Personally men should max it out in the west then move to somewhere else where their nationality, ethnicity and race is more desired (if they want to )once they learn everything they need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:19 AM
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Can’t you get into a one way open relationship type situation? Like there’s a good chance you’re not monogamous like most men in this lifestyle so you could arrange for a situation like that whereby you have your cake and eat it to. As you said as well you can attract any woman with high chance you’ll sleep with them so you can set the terms. That for me will sort out my wandering eye situation i constantly have and what men describe as approach anxiety is an addiction to me. If I am monogamous …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 08:38 PM
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Insane stats you’re the first I’ve seen on here that has a higher laycount than I. Probably the highest on here. But yeah agreed it’s like a second job handling women in your rotation and if it gets too big then you legit don’t have a life outside women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 07:21 PM
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I’m still currently in the phase but yes it’s fun and I have no regrets. I have no time stopping soon if I’ve got to be honest with you. Just make sure you have consistent novelty and not gunning for constant ONS only though. Male, 5”9, black(darkskin) and 21 years old for context Current laycount is 171
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:48 PM
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I am from and live in the second biggest city in England 😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:44 PM
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Kinda? I think a balanced approach is the way and they all have their merits. Although what I agree with RP is common sense and I already knew instinctively and anyone should do if they went outside, not autistic and interacted with a human. Only thing that whereby I discovered something groundbreaking to me in terms of dating was Pickup artistry and even most of their teachings was what I done subconsciously but there were many light bulb moments what PUAs said when they mentioned a technique l…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 04:29 AM
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This is probably an American thing over in England go to working class white and black areas and it’s on an equal level or the girls better looking. My ex was way better looking than me for instance and the best guy i knew with girls his gf is 3-4 points easily above him looks wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 01:39 AM
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Oh I don’t mind it at all. I do it myself and I multi stack first dates sometimes so I do one straight to the house maybe in the middle of the afternoon after a uni lecture and then another one in the evening during term time. As long she’s not a woman that makes me wait yet bangs some other dude fast or makes me jump through hoops(will never happen) it’s fine. If it’s during holidays then I’ll triple or even quadruple stack dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 12:58 AM
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No worries it sounded like you were attacking me because of my diagnosis at the end of your sentence hence my last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 08:48 PM
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When I mean we I mean pwNPD or any other mental disorders or illnesses. I'll give you that neurodivergence originally applied to autism only but that's not its current definition by today's medical standards. By societies standards of normal behaviour a personality disorder cannot be considered neurotypical at all and its ludicrous to think otherwise. Correct its not an excuse at all not to try, is it extremely difficult not to fall into bad behaviours? Yes but just because they have them does n…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:55 AM
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What’s with online autists and extreme gatekeeping. And you can go look it up yourself by definition we are NOT neurotypical as it is one who has atypical patterns of thought and behaviours . One with ASPD for instance and more specifically psychopathy the activity in the amygdala is strikingly different from people in general population. You’d be insane to argue that having literally zero empathy, zero remorse, having an extremely hyperactive brain where you suffer from chronic boredom, having …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:09 AM
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You do realise psychopathy and a narcissists(an actual one not the BS people describe) brain structure is completely different to a neurotypicals. It’s not a thing you can just be nor do we have a choice. I didn’t choose to have almost literally zero empathy and remorse. Same with ASPD and BPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 01:42 AM
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Why do you lot assume being non-NT always equals autism? Certain neurodivegent disorders can give you an advantage in dating you know. Like you do know the dark triad men (and women) you lot love banging on about how successful we are neurodivergent right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 12:24 AM
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Lol and I get told that majority of men know how to talk to women over text and no advice is needed. This post is proof of how bad most men are at capitalising when she is attracted to you and not all men struggle with getting their foot in the door it’s what to do after unlike the common narrative that’s spread around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 01:10 PM
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Shit test to weed out nice guys/betas, easiest girls to close, by far. Just swipe right and don’t switch anything up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 10:51 AM
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Just a preference between 5”5-5”11 but not a dealbreaker. 5”9 myself for reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 12:37 AM
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this is gold. based
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:50 AM
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I'm not white, go to a university where the campus demographics is 90% white and I've slept with 170 women. And I'm 5"9. Always dated women who're equal to above my looks level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:19 PM
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I agree mainstream advice and what society says doesn't tell you the full picture at best, and totally horrendous at worst but you'd go to your boys or if not them you listen to your dad. Or in my case that's what happened to me and since he's in sales a lot of what he taught translated into dating. But never your mom maybe in single mom households this is the case or if the dad is a total beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:08 PM
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Who in the world is listening to their mom for advice on how to pick up women LMAO like why you'd expect her to do so is beyond me😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:23 PM
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We all seem to accept someone with a personality disorder can't be cured but then we also claim anyone can just be a charming extroverted ladies man because they want to? Just because a personality disorder cannot be cured doesn't mean we cannot manage or handle it. I have Narcissistic Personality Disorder and according to you I still should be an extremely manipulative, abusive lying, attention seeking, gaslighting and validation seeking person. Is it incredibly difficult to handle our "bad" be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:14 PM
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Oh yeah party girls and strippers over here is like the female equivalent of bad boys, fantastic highs but always on guard and a likelihood of having an extreme low. Absolutely before I was diagnosed I used to attract them a hell of a lot more borderlines but now cause I'm diagnosed and better at sizing up people than borderlines they're literally robots the way they behave its easy to spot them out and eject pretty fast. But neurotypical men get completely destroyed by those women. No doubt cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:07 PM
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I’ve learned how a lot more men and women are more autistic than I realised. A lot of men are delusional about being average when they’re not, yes the average man is pathetic in his dating life but to the extent you man describe it? Nah bro you’re below average Men on here basically study handsome men, womanisers etc as if we’re an advanced mathematics topic they have to pass. Women in my life were right about men projecting male sexuality onto women. Which is beyond obvious when you hear dudes …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 08:33 PM
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I’m a 7.5/10 in looks I am dark triad whereby I have a personality disorder so it’s easy to mask I have fantastic game compared to the average man And yes I am known in my university in my country as a BNOC, big name on campus but that isn’t really the main reason why I do so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 06:22 PM
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5-10 miles?!?!?! No fucking way how do you guys go out to motives like restaurants, nightclubs and bars. So you guys don’t have like a corner shop at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:05 PM
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21 years old male For me it’s piss easy, I can approach any woman and with high probability I’ll bang her on the first night or on the first date 90% of them time. On average I sleep with 1 new girl a week with repeat girls being two of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:04 PM
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Nah not all of them we all relate to certain behaviours but not all borderlines are co morbid with other disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:43 PM
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If he has a personality disorder If he’s socially inept and awkward If he brags about materialistic shit How he treats other men If he’s extremely smooth and everything he says he has the right response to everything like it’s too good to be true(links back to personality disorder) If he has no social media presence or refuses to give it out that means he’s a fuckboy and running through the whole neighbourhood. Me and my friends don’t really give out our socials to girls in our rotation out of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:36 PM
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What type of women do you attract as you have BPD? Is it similar to how women with the disorder attract men who have NPD and/or ASPD? Cause I constantly attract borderlines like a moth to a flame and speaking to those in support groups irl say similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:13 PM
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Not just relationships even friendships if I ever encounter someone with BPD and wanna cut them off they're the only type of people I'm extremely careful of unless they've done something really bad. Having BPD is a mad one but have that combined with NPD or ASPD? God bless that person dealing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 04:08 PM
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I'm a narcissist with sociopathic traits and am hot headed with low inhibition where it harms me more than benefits me. Along with me being extremely emotionally unavailable but give you just enough for you to crawl back to me. Also there's a high chance I'll get bored and discard you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 03:48 PM
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Yes cause people in general believe if she says "no spark" or "lets just be friends" after a date it must mean its a lack of physical attraction which is nonsense because she wouldn't have agreed to a date if she didn't like the look of you. Younger men (and women) have atrocious social skills and no social awareness at all, to the point I am convinced there's a whole lot of men who have autism but don't realise it. Like my new wingman before he met me he had women approaching him constantly but…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 02:13 PM
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Oh and nice unblocking me, at least you're less of a disingenuous hack than I initially thought you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:32 PM
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Approaching in nightclubs and partially online game, I am explaining to this dude that PUAs now put more emphasis on online game but obviously due to the fact they're in America (most of them) they do more cold approach sessions irl. It depends on how you frame it cause you'd be surprised how many dudes fuck it up on dates and after you get the match. Lets say you frame yourself as a fuckboy and you act like a relationship nice guy you'll get a significant amount of women ghosting and giving you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 01:25 PM
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Hahaha seems like I hit a nerve, doesn't know nor realise people summarise titles/points, doesn't actually know anything about the topic just by not even realising modern PUA now talks about online dating whereas old school focused purely on cold approach, nitpicks two out of the 7 or so sources cause he was wrong and didn't bother watching the videos I mentioned. Thinks 1/3 of men being virigns and 80% of men getting zero matches is fine. Lol you think I have only ran game on English women? I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 12:08 PM
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Mediocre and should be better given mens sex drive and biological imperative but not abysmal like how men on here make it out to be. They get something but obviously the fact that for a man he only bangs 4-6 women lifetime is not great at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:41 AM
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Ah I see. That makes sense to why most people on here struggle with dating and why there’s an obesity problem. It explains a lot tbh and why housing from my view looks so much “cheaper” compared to my country. There’s still some ways though irregardless to maximise your logistical situation. Eg for example my house is next to a high street with coffee shops and a pub I can take girls on a date with and it’s two minutes away from my place. There must be some pockets of America that has a similar …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:34 AM
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Like living in a favourable location like a walkable city with good foot traffic. A population of at least 250k so there’s enough volume for you to run. Or near a university campus if you’re of that age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:08 PM
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That doesn’t negate my point
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:36 PM
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Looks+Volume+Game+Logistics get at least two of these in order and then learn the social skills how to attract women, because the social skills needed to be successful with women isn't the same as making a platonic friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 04:55 PM
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What is a sorority and why’s this relevant? Happening for years? Oh so one group of a few unaware privileged girls say that it doesn’t work so that must mean it’s a scam🤣🤣🤣😂. Why should anyone listen to what a woman THINKS works when it’s actions you should be watching. So what you’re saying flirting, sexualising, moving the conversation forward, using sub communications, using the right vocal tonality, they shouldn’t be using framing dates properly and should have free for all texting, and hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:11 AM
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Oh so one girl means everything is a scam about PUA? So men shouldn’t be flirting, sexualising, moving the conversation forward, using sub communications, using the right vocal tonality, they shouldn’t be using framing dates properly and should have free for all texting, and handling objections and any concerns a woman has? That’s all a scam then and anyone can sniff that out? You do realise you’re talking to someone with a personality disorder who has manipulated, gaslighted and masked and stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:56 PM
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It’s beyond obvious how you’re trying to brag about how much better you and your friends are in your fraternity on Neil fucking Strauss when he’s been irrelevant for god knows how long. Gonna backtrack again? And then have one woman back your case as if any man should take a straight woman’s word seriously on how to seduce one🤣🤣🤣🤣. I had to even search him up cause he’s so disconnected from modern pick-up. Oh and for the last bit the fact you failed to provide any alternative confirms to me you’…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:22 PM
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It’s not hard to decipher what I’m saying at all. It’s just you not handling the fact that men can and do get better results from PUA than naturals and can get their dating problems solved. But to summarise: You are totally wrong on what is PUA, don’t know what they teach or how we go about approaching girls. Hence why your arguments sound like some NPC feminist whose just read one article on PUA. Please don’t get your sources from one dumb privileged bimbo who doesn’t know the male struggle and…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:13 PM
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I’m English it’s what we say I’ve always said this it’s a slang thing or I say sneaky links maybe it’s different in America cause call lists to me sounds cringe and a Yell phone number lists for job agency’s. Yes 3 is the best cause it’s not too little whereby you’ll be at the risk of having to find a new one and it’s not too much where you literally do not have time to do anything else in your life. Like my best friend had a 5 girl rotation and was basically consumed by the lifestyle last summe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:31 PM
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Maybe in America but in my country it’s completely unheard of. And how’s it a scam if you yourself admitted that it can provide some sort of result? And I ask again what would you do or how would you advise guys step by step on how to pick up a girl, how to have the right body language, the right vocal tonality and inflections, how to have rotations, how to pick the right gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:19 PM
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Whose everyone? Do people know PUA or is if not common? Your bimbo friend and you who got hurt by a good one isn’t everyone? Imagine thinking teaching guys how to flirt, sexualise, have autonomy is so bad. You’re the guy who still thinks Neil Strauss has any authority and gaslights/refuses to admit he’s wrong even with facts right in his facewhat’s next we do negging😭😭😭😭😭.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:06 PM
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Next time do your research before spouting off total nonsense and projecting. I’m sorry that we’ve shattered your preconceived notions of either you got it or you don’t mindset and how your nerdy dude blossomed and became better than you+ your bimbo friend was wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 09:00 PM
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I didn’t pay anybody why do you assume we all pay for PUAs? And why do you assume we were all bad with women? I’ve literally helped my chad friends how to optimise their game even further. I say I’m a PUA because I actively and subconsciously use their methods not because I watch it I don’t need to why don’t you understand that? And apart from a small dry spell I’ve never struggled with women. And I’ve banged more girls in 11 months than you and 95% of men in their entire lives. You underestimat…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:52 PM
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Idk what a beta uprising is but that just sounds hilarious for some reason. You most certainly are/thinking PUA is still 2002. What’s next are you gonna say just be yourself bro and just text her anything bro after throughly been disproven 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:43 PM
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That analogy would’ve worked if you genuinely didn’t claim false statements of fact. Then when I tell you otherwise you just scoff and sit on your ivory tower then afterwards you go for personal attacks and pure projection since for some reason you dislike men actively improving their dating prospects whilst using disingenuous arguments/pretending to care. I already know you have barely any experience with women by the fact you think 4-8 lays is acceptable. Make sure your wife or gf doesn’t get …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:25 PM
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Is that you losing the argument going from personal attacks? Sell? What the hell are you talking about? I just come here for discussion and telling you are objectively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:14 PM
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Hey I’m just telling you how it is and my experience. Like I said if I was allowed I’d show you receipts here. Maybe you’d have gotten more success/lays and not be similar to the average dude getting pittance and then delusionally claiming that the average dude knows what he’s doing with women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:07 PM
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I banged around 50 girls before PUA and my friend was at similar numbers. My new wingman was only at 13 girls and wasn’t constantly messing up after the looks threshold was passed not until I taught him PUA. My success rate is 90% from 65% on a first date(hmmm I wonder how could’ve that just happened ;)) and when I get approached by women it’s 85% and my wing it’s now 90%. As a result of PUA I went from 6-7 to 20+ matches a day on online dating. I’m just disproving your claim that PUAs do not te…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 08:03 PM
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This is clearly demonstrably and empirically false 1- on how to generate compliance https://youtu.be/8nGKIdfJMRE 2- Handling objections and concerns- https://youtu.be/tBF2HmbZLyE https://youtu.be/JH2J0D05nzI https://youtu.be/uvp9rrDw4m4 3- Sexual escalation , physical touch and flirting there’s about 10000+ videos but here you go https://youtu.be/SZEi3m4_xX0 https://youtu.be/M8U6BfrTzUA https://youtu.be/VRmiHtACc7c 4- Photos in online game- https://youtu.be/LDXPISTDUSU https://youtu.be/88dwbZatL…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:56 PM
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And you know this due to? what I mentioned what PUAs teach which I’m even surprised you disagree with them even teaching them/think it’s wrong to do that still applies towards getting into a relationship. There’s not much difference if at all in tactics for causal sex and a relationship. It’s only a tool and how it’s used is down to the individual
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 07:16 PM
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Yeah that’s nothing I and my friends/other PUAs can do 8 in a week thanks to PUA. And we can do 4 in one day for a man that’s pathetic and should and would be higher if they actually had autonomy. Hence why gay dudes have the sex lives of a rockstar.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:58 PM
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That still doesn’t negate my point that the average man is getting pennies. I can give you at least 10 other examples of women in my life who agree with PUA teachings and concepts if you want to play that game. Like I actually taught a lesbian pick-up only just in online game and she got amazing results/agreed with everything I say and don And what is a sorority girl and why are they relevant? Just because one girl doesn’t agree I don’t give a shit about what women thinks what does and doesn’t w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:53 PM
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In my nation in the last two years men from 18-30 didn’t have a shag or are virgins. The rate of sexlessness has risen, there’s been articles of the rise of lonely single men. The average man has no autonomy and relies of women choosing him and luck. That’s why he’s only banged 5 women which is nothing given testosterone and sex drive differences. The average man instinctively does not know how to sexually escalate, test for compliance, maximise your appearance(yes PUAs talk about SMV often), mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:37 PM
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Your response to MM being sold and finding a guy to admit it would be tough to find so I just went off the assumption that you think PUA is actually big enough for the average person to know. Most men are total failures and losers with women and what I mean by that is have zero control of their life get scraps/settle into a relationship what are you talking about? PUA would exponentially increase their dating prospects and it’s not even close. And if 80% of the male population knew legit strateg…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:11 PM
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PUA is like less than 0.5% of the population you severely overestimate how many men actually know what pick-up artistry is. In my country is virtually 0%. Who says this? Show me a source? I’ve never ever heard of PUA unironically endorse MM as their school of thought, do some of his teachings still pop up? Yes but all of them criticise his flaws and teachings. For example going for a Skype close rather than number close. I’d happily admit to your face if I saw you I’m a PUA and actively use it’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 06:05 PM
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PUA is still being taught in FB and YT though it hasn’t fell off at all. They focus on online game now. Without PUA I wouldn’t have banged 50 girls in the last year in 5-6 months and this year be on track to bang 75+ girls this year. There’s no way on planet earth I’d have thought I’d reach those numbers without it. Yes there’s scammers in there but there are some albeit a minority that do want to help and are legit plus you can size up guys anyways in two minutes if they’re good with girls or n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 05:35 PM
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How can personality be a human construct when most of it is genetic? I have a personality disorder and there’s certain parts of me that’ll be objectively bad and can’t change unless you’re a sicko
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 02:47 PM
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a millisecond honestly and I’ve already decided I wanna bang as well in that moment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:48 AM
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Visible autism, projection of male sexuality onto women and extreme neuroticism most of them they have and haven't learnt how to mask properly/aren't aware of their off putting behaviours.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:29 PM
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This is common sense yes the bio is the least important part of your online dating profile bad bio excellent photos>excellent bio bad photos but it's still a good tool to use to screen out in order to set certain frames ie looking for a shag, demonstrate value and keeping it to the point where you can invite women to message you. I've also done experiments whereby i got more matches with a bio than none.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 10:16 PM
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So do I, those guys count in the list. I know guys who’ve been to prison have dimes waiting for them and a former friend is awaiting trial for domestic violence he had no problem attracting girls so did my cousin before he got banged up. I agree you don’t need to be a “winner” by societies standards to get plenty of girls. Just looks, game, masculinity and logistics is enough. I never said it wouldn’t be beneficial to your life in general of course it does but that does not make you alpha. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 02:12 PM
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An alpha male is just a guy who is widely attractive to women and only two components matter How attractive are the women relative to his looks so if a 6 is consistently getting 7-8s for example he’s alpha and has game how many women he’s shagged, so 50 is the start whereby you’re considered alpha Anything else like accomplishments, how strong you are, if you can fight etc are irrelevant and backwards rationalisations by beta guys wanting to enter the club. Only 1-5% of men in the world fit this…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 12:00 PM
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Projection of male sexuality onto women, a common sentiment here and everywhere in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 11:10 AM
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Men are not praised by the majority by other men for having a high laycount for many reasons that’s a total misconception idk where that sentiment came from. I have triple digits and I dislike men even more ever since I’ve been more of a womaniser due to how they behave. This sub also reaffirmed my belief as well with the blatant insecurity, hatred and jealousy of attractive men like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 07:27 AM
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Yeah this sub focuses so much on aesthetics that forget or don’t believe a man can mess up after the physical attraction is there. It’s quite odd how men and some women assume all women will behave like a man and do everything for ya once she likes ya. It shows how there’s barely any discussion on how to conduct yourself dates or what to do when interacting with a girl after she’s displayed attraction. I’m sure these guys would fail completely on that end cause they’re not used to it+ they have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 04:27 PM
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Low body count for a woman=6”4 for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:59 PM
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For me personally I’m only friends with girls I’ve previously fucked. I’ve found that when you friendzone them/end it they’re more genuine and likely to stick around. Supposed to female friends that I didn’t fuck eventually we’d just separate and never speak again. They have always been extremely temporary relationships honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 11:06 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:52 PM
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Yes for me definitely it was my childhood and my family has a history of mental illnesses and disorders. From therapy majority of Cluster Bs are wounded children who basically responded out of trauma. For example the stereotypical narcissist people think it’s because we have insane high self esteem and confidence when in reality it’s the opposite as we’re trying to mask our flaws/weaknesses by coming across the opposite. In my country therapy waiting times as well is atrocious if you do it throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:51 PM
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Yes for me I went because of family intervention and I was going in for a mood disorder. It’s extremely rare if not impossible for a narcissist to actually go in for NPD. We either aren’t self aware enough or we just don’t give a shit. Even in therapy it’s so hard to get one specialised in cluster B cause of our reputation it took ages for me. The social stigma of narcissism doesn’t help either. Although the realisation of what I’ve done was horrific and indescribable along with relief that I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:11 AM
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Not all men have to lose weight/is a fat fuck some have to gain some to be at a healthy weight/be more attractive. If a dudes 50kg at 5”9 for example he definitely definitely needs to bulk and just eat everything in sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 09:45 PM
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I’ll give it from the perspective of someone who has narcissism in the clinical sense who was the toxic one before going for my diagnosis for Narcissistic personality disorder. It was the classic narcissistic toxic relationship with my ex, I did all the things what men and women say their exes who have cluster B personality disorders did. In my case I gaslighted, lied manipulated, love bombed, masked and concocted a very exaggerated personality of myself to hook her in. I cheated on her constant…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 07:43 PM
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Right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 11:25 AM
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What this makes no sense women always praise their bfs as if he’s prime Jon Erik Hexum. My ex used to sing praises how handsome and good looking I am and she could basically be model if she wanted to. And other qualities they like about their man can amplify their physical attraction to him and overrate their man’s overall looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:18 PM
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For me nah I haven't so far for LTRs, I don't give a shit about her laycount unless its higher than mine which is very high for my age cause that would indicate that she has a personality disorder(most likely NPD or BPD) or validation issues. But I refuse to sleep with virgins or marry or get into an LTR with one, I cannot imagine anything else miserable than a fucking virgin they're dreadful in bed every single time. I've refused girls who wanted me to take their virginity because of this facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 10:09 PM
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That's not manipulation that's coercion and force. And like you said "force" which means its not a superpower.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 06:41 PM
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Tbf in that vid he did bait her into finding out if she found him sexually attractive and it worked when he was talking about his ex and was pushing her friend away/boxed her out and wanting to focus on him at the end of the interaction since she was cockblocking. Then him saying she had bitten her lip when he pulled her hair but that who knows if that’s true cause it was blurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:46 PM
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Your definition you gave for manipulation includes influence to ones own benefit and by that you're trying to imply many many things are bad to do because it involves manipulation. However, since its the human condition its perfectly natural and normal to do, we just do it subconsciously. attempting to manipulate someone who don't want to have sex with you into wanting to have sex with you are completely different things. And that's a thing that's nonexistent, because you make the final choice o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:00 PM
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You're talking about a thing that is nonexistent and impossible to achieve. You think everybody is authentic and 100% honest in human interaction? So if a teenager waits for their parent to be in a better mood in order to ask something out of them is that not manipulation? And they're a bad person for doing so? Or if some girl wears push-up bras, plastic surgery, and makeup to attract a man or woman. Manipulation=influence, good manipulation is persuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:22 AM
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That's impossible you cannot manipulate a woman into fucking you she makes the final decision manipulation only increases the probability but its not dark magic. Regardless what is wrong with manipulation in general? Its not inherently wrong so what's the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:04 AM
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Game is on neutral/maybe girls and low yes girls. In game/PUA we say there's a threshold you need to pass and game is then able to work. Personally, I've never gotten a girl who was a hard no into a yes and barring a shot of luck you won't get no girls to be a yes girl. However on this sub especially you lot definitely wouldn't know the difference between a maybe girl, an attention seeker/brat, a low yes girl and a no girl the difference between a girl giving you objections ie "I'm not that kind…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 10:49 AM
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I've seen one couple in England but the dude is a criminal bad boy in the purest sense and has been in prison multiple times and was released recently after battering an old man and stabbing him almost to death. His girl was sending him letters weekly and was loyal AF. But usually its like a 5-6 dating a 7.5-8 proper common in usually( white) working class areas when I was worse looking (6.5) I always seriously dated women who were way better looking than me cause of status/narcissistic reasons …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:53 AM
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Yeah I'm above average looking and I always date and bang women who are better than me, so a minimum of 8 in my case. Like why would I need nor want to date a woman that's worser looking than me when its fairly easy for me to attract a better looking woman? My Chad best friend also is with a beautiful woman and beforehand he only slayed hot girls and has a bodycount of 130(7.5 minimum was the girls he went for). Only time maybe good looking men date down is if they have anti game and extreme low…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:39 AM
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Damn are you religious? That’s fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:30 PM
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Isn't this subjective? Like what one considers promiscuity the another would be prudeness? For example I would say 15-20 for a woman is nothing yet most people my age and on here think that's bare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 09:19 PM
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Trust me so many girls who date footballers like to complain about this but aren’t you the one who got into a relationship in the first place? Sometimes they don’t even need to be footballers they just need to be a guy that has some superpower attracting women eg excellent looks or game or both. It’s like walking into a landmine and complaining that your leg got blown off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 12:04 PM
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Creepy men are just guys with visible autism who don’t know any better in my experience but yeah as long as you are socially calibrated ie knowing your country or cities culture you’re good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 11:58 AM
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Yeah I realised recently that around 60% of my lays which came from dates(majority first) I basically carried and completely dominated the conversation. Now I understand why some men say women are bad conversationalists especially guys my generation(Gen Z) but they’re gaslighted into thinking it’s the lady not being attracted like no a lot of women have piss poor social skills and you need at least 6 convo threads ready to go and run game on. Trad advice states that a woman should do most of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 07:10 AM
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RP=/=PUA as a PUA most of us don’t even like RPers and we do not do PUA tactics from the 90s that’s beyond outdated. Why this sub thinks PUA is still stuck in the 2000s idk.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:06 AM
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I find that this sub is too Americanised more specifically white upper middle class types who live in the picket fence areas or whitewashed ethnic men who have an extreme chip on their shoulder trying to extrapolate their (strange) viewpoints to the rest of the world. This is especially true when they constantly say women demand you to make loads of money for her to consider you attractive when that’s a load of fucking bollocks no amount of money will ever buy a woman’s genuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:33 PM
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1000% which why its baffling and laughable how some men on here wanna say guys with high laycounts want girls who are virgins like no I cannot think of anything worse than marrying a virgin. None of my friends who are or were promiscuous wanted a virgin and would decline virgin girls. Its obvious these guys don't have much if any experience with girls at all with the way they're praising virgin girls. Like 3 is the minimum for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 11:07 PM
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Rightio
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:42 PM
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I am a dickhead for many things but it’s obvious you were trying to disparage me for not wanting to stick around someone I wasn’t clicking with cause she’s a woman. Lovely gaslighting though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:16 PM
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Godspeed to you, good luck in your journey and I wish you the best and succeed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 08:00 PM
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Oh so it makes me a dickhead that I didn't want to see a girl again? Why do I owe her a second visit? That makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:35 PM
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Good, you'll notice mental changes far quicker than you realise your confidence coming up when lifting and that's not even when you're complete physically, and then when you are even your female friends will be eye fucking you and want an excuse to touch you. Don't listen to morons on here discouraging you not to lift or women don't like muscles.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 07:34 PM
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5”9
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:44 PM
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RPers on here and in general want to be slayers and have rotations of women they dont want LTRs. And yes because she's taking other things in priority not just your looks, charisma and game but that doesn't mean they don't care about it at all its just low priority. Eh shallow a good amount you're right but promiscuous they're a surprisingly small amount of my laycount, the girls I sleep with are usually around 2-6 laycount which is nothing. Outside of that is rare. And I don't desire trad relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 06:11 PM
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That’s not my problem I don’t really give a shit if she truly feels that way. She wanted to lose it cause of pressure from her social circle on her end it was a good experience for her since I always put my all in to make the girl have a good experience. On my end it was absolutely atrocious I just faked and masked that I was satisfied and happy so she wouldn’t feel extremely bad. But after her I never ever want to bang another virgin let alone marry one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:45 PM
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In the long run? What if a guy is a 5-6 before gym and then he has a facial transformation as a result of working out he’ll have exponentially better results? You’re saying a guy who was 51kg at 5”10 and then bulks up to 75kg there won’t be any difference in treatment or if there is it’s minimal? He’d also be able to carry himself better as he’d be far more comfortable in his own skin on top of the physical upgrades. It takes about 5-6 months to notice these changes Cause beforehand personally I…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:11 PM
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Yes of course they will, don’t listen to those who say otherwise for me it was a night and day difference when I gained weight and put on muscle. If I was 6”1-6”2 I’d be a full on Tyrone because of the gym. Especially since only about what 10% workout to the point where they have a good physique and about 5-7% do combat sports like Judo MMA or boxing you’ll stand out not only physically but mentally as how you carry yourself is extremely important to women they love men who are comfortable in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:07 PM
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This virgin I banged a few months ago, I don’t really want to lambast her too much because she was a virgin and I usually don’t like/sleep with virgins but she was a 8.5 so exceptions applied but from head to the positions she was beyond awful and I don’t think she’ll ever become half competent honestly with experience. Immediately after sex on text I told her we can’t see each other again.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 05:01 PM
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This post stinks of I’ve never had a woman genuinely lust and desire me sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:56 PM
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I understand however the ones who are actually good usually don’t even have a good and wide of a presence to be making revenue off YouTube to be significant on top of PUA content being demonetised very heavily its not really a lot of money they make. Its the only community where being popular doesn’t mean anything in fact it’s the opposite as a correlation. And when I’m talking about free advice I’m talking about me not forking out my own money personally. And again what is wrong with them makin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:33 PM
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What do you mean they should already know? They provide plenty of free advice already. Like one channel is basically a whole course on how to succeed on tinder hinge and bumble. You can learn everything you need to know without buying a course from pickup, you just need to go out and practice it. Regardless what’s wrong with providing a service if they want to take it further? Just because they do so doesn’t mean they teach the exact same content that’s disingenuous and wouldn’t even make sense …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:19 PM
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Well no modern pickup isn’t mystery method or RSD. For example PUAs now in the modern day go extensively into depth for online dating unlike its early days where it was just approaching in bars and clubs. And for real life they emphasise natural approaches rather than pre scripted routines. They teach the why and how to apply it rather than just say this line. These guys here would be more happier and far better off going to one of those PUAs than someone like that fraud Rollo. And those good PU…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:10 PM
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Oh the internet marketers and old school PUA types yeah those men and women are there to make a buck. Most of those types have been driven out by other PUAs exposing them for being fake and incels who fell hook line and sinker. Maybe when PUA was around in your time it was in its early days. The good ones who do give practical advice show their results for themselves and their clients don’t upsell and don’t act like this at all. It’s seeping through shit to find gold for these types though since…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 04:00 PM
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How do they package it from your view? I do agree PUAs have a problem with framing certain things and it comes icky to the mainstream like for example the idea of compliance rather than saying consent. If they have that introspection and a plan for sure but with a PUA it gives you a game plan these guys usually do not have. At least they get a sense of direction where they are in an interaction and how to read certain dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:51 PM
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That’s what PUA teaches? Or at least a good one does anyways. Not saying there isn’t huge problems with PUA and PUA coaches but it definitely works if you go to the right sources, it done so with me and I was a guy who was already good with girls and I taught some of my friends who were struggling what to do and it increased their results also. And where would those people who need go to? Cause there’s no other alternative advice apart from PUA since they at least acknowledge attracting women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:38 PM
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PUA is a tool, it’s what the person decides to do with it that’s what makes it manipulative or not. It’s like a knife, you can use it to cut tomato’s or stab someone. You can use it to be a sport fucker or to be serially monogamous and get into an LTR. And I’ve never heard of a PUA except for one encourage men to date younger women. In fact the (legit) ones say that they want women near their age for a relationship because women who are significantly younger than them there’s a lack of relatabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:30 PM
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Not RP but ever since I built muscle which does not take that long you’re insinuating unless you have atrocious genetics or you’re doing some really bad gym routine I have women approach me far more often(like 1 every two nights) and give me looks than when I didn’t go gym and was skinny. I constantly get complimented on my body and now face as a result of bulking up. If you actually think building muscle and going to the gym takes that long for an average man then you have no clue whatsoever on…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 02:29 PM
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That’s not really the type of guy that bought those books or is in the community. Those men you mention are a minority of the main learners of game. But a lot more of them than you think completely changed their dating lives and prospects not necessarily buying and reading that book but from learning from better methods. And what you are saying about personality is scientifically incorrect it’s not all predetermined since your brain has the ability to change its own structure through life experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:42 PM
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Not a fan of RP at all but you overestimate how socially in tune the average young person is when they’re glued to their phone. It’s not hard to mask and fake a personality people feel good, I’ve done it multiple times consciously and subconsciously and never been questioned at all. On top of which people have ticks, routines, common convo threads and mannerisms which is obvious if you study humans and interactions to the extent I do. And most certainly you can change your personality it’s not 1…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 12:30 PM
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It’s made me realise a lot of men are more autistic and neurotic than I thought and makes me wanna go to America just to see if what they say about American girls is true. And specifically where they live as their takes sound like there’s only extremely ugly men and handsome men and nothing in the middle. This is true when someone tries to give behavioural attraction advice and there’s always that one spastic that says “won’t work if you’re 5”1 and ugly” like as if it’s a common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 09:27 AM
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Minimal levels of neuroticism(yes) Be open minded (yes) Be working class if British(yes)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:09 PM
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This sub is pure autism and neuroticism at times what kind of scenario is this😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:42 PM
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No I have narcissistic personality disorder and sociopathic traits😂😂😂😂 and imma womaniser
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:26 PM
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In working class areas and schools in England this happens amongst certain demographics. I know a few man that went prison that had no problem getting girls and they all waited for him. One was a Stacy whose boyfriend battered some old man nearly to death and was in prison for two years. My cousin also is in prison for robbing cars and burglary and he used to batter men like it was nothing, most extreme story was him biting off some mans ear off and had kidnapped with his friend two guys he was …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:21 PM
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No because you didn’t reframe it in a certain way, you can say two things and one can come across as demonstrating value and the other can come across as insecurity and bragging just how you say things or by baiting a woman to ask you your accomplishments so you can show higher value.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:52 PM
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Definitely if you were a man of high status, if they were alive today though they'd have slept with 5k women. Casanova is the most famous example and if he was alive today I reckon he'd have slept with 500+ women minimum. He's the OG slayer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:04 PM
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Oh yeah a handsome man maxed out on looks and good game the world's his oyster. That dude's game isn't as good as he thinks it is and is doing some wrong things otherwise any guy who is at least a 7 with game would be an animal and be a force to be reckoned with. He's getting at least triple digit bodycount lifetime or even in a year if he commits to hookups like I and one of my handsome friends did before settling down. Yes no objections there, with the results he wants with the women he's goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 08:15 PM
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It’s a shithole in other ways especially the more north you go but British girls aren’t near as bad as American girls (from what I’ve gathered online) maybe except London ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:04 PM
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You should come to England
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:57 PM
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Yeah just by approaching during the day time where most women have never had that and I’d estimate less than 0.5% of men actually approach during the daytime regardless of their looks makes it a unique situation. You kind of done the same though when mentioning your husband to him as if he’s the normal guy when he’s just on the other extreme end and assuming he or any good looking man wouldn’t ever get rejected/can’t struggle. I don’t think he’s doing too awfully tbf by the fact he’s getting soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:55 PM
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Agreed on that front but also it depends on a woman’s type I’d say. Cause you can be physically be attractive but not match up to a woman’s type like I’m a jacked black dude so if I was approaching some artsy girl who like skinny white boys I’d have to have more solid game even if by objective beauty standard I’m better looking. At a certain point yeah definitely a woman should be putting some effort and “triggering” her to make her chase but let’s say at the beginning before a first date then i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:14 PM
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Oh in that case yeah I definitely agree like the success rate for that leading to sex is very low and he should be putting his energy into pubs, bars and nightclubs and online dating due to more volume and it’s far easier to spike up a woman’s emotions. For those other environments you mentioned you’ll get a phone number but majority will flake and ghost even with the best texting strategy in the world. No disagreements there cause he’s just doing shotgun approaches and the previous reasons why …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:50 PM
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No I’m saying there’s women whose type is medium ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:42 PM
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The point is that there’s always an expectation you as a man have to initiate and escalate something even after you are approached or she gives you yes signs. To say there isn’t is extremely dishonest. Yes it’s easier being more attractive physically I’ve experienced that but there is some effort needed. And everyone has a routine and strategy including yourself there’s no such thing as natural talk or chemistry. You just don’t realise it or it’s just you misinterpreting chemistry as physical at…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:41 PM
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Not medium ugly men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:38 PM
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What do you mean by cold approach? Cause cold approach is just approaching a woman who you previously didn’t know like a nightclub or in the park. Cause half of my lays come from night time cold approach. If it’s daytime approaches I agree the downtime isn’t worth it like only in the summer in my experience is it worth it doing multi hour daytime sessions due to volume and as you’ve said how unorthodox it is. Just approaching one woman every few days you find attractive whilst out and about is e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:38 PM
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Depends which type
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:18 PM
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Your husband if he wasn’t relying off women doing all the work for him and he approached random women who he didn’t know then his rejection rate would go up. This guy is approaching women who he doesn’t know and isn’t relying off warm environments. And it sounds like your husband jjust relies off his face and height if he came across some guy who was slightly to noticeably less attractive than him with better game he’d lose 60% of the time as men like him are easy to manipulate to bait them into…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 05:14 PM
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So $80k in Silicon Valley or Upstate New York there’s not much difference as £80k in Newcastle or Stoke on Trent? Really??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:48 AM
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$80k=/=£80k there’s a huge difference it’s not the same whatsoever £80k will get you far in this country unless you’re living in London, Surrey or the Cotswolds or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:42 AM
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For U.K. standards trust me that’s an incredible amount of money. Especially when you’re considering taxes. London I’d agree with you to be “comfortable” you’d need well over six figures not be living paycheque to paycheque barely surviving but places like the north of England and the midlands where I live that’s a phenomenal amount of money. Wages here are atrocious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:56 AM
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I have friends who are Chads and I am one tier below it like 7.5/10 in looks and we still do suffer from flaking and women not believing we’re real and just being cunts in general(although rare). But for sure we do have a hell of a lot more yes girls to burn through who approach us, and women overlook a lot lot more red flags than usual where I live though the most attractive women never approach which is who we go for only so the only type that approach are women who are worser looking than us …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 02:51 AM
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162 laycount, I ran volume and maximised my game learning PUA to sleep hit triple digit lays along with sleeping with 69 women in about 6-8 months. I have the privilege also in regards to women of being those guys who "just gets it" naturally and I am dark triad so that along with PUA it helps in the inital stages when reading archetypes and using unethical ways to get laid. I honestly wouldn't even be hitting these sport fucking records if it wasn't for PUA teachings, they completely changed my…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 08:40 PM
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Above average looking guy here with friends who are handsome yes they do(unless its a British black girl or mixed race one) I get approached once every two nights they do every night but its 80% of the time the girl you don't want who is like 1-3 points below you in looks and the girls we're attracted to don't approach and we still need to make shit happen unless its extreme yes girls, vain women who are desperate to have the bragging rights of sleeping with a good looking man or extremely mascu…
/r/seduction09/10/22 11:05 PM
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Everyone masks and we have routines to what we say. The difference is what is the extent that we do it. Yes I’m aware you do get used to it when you’ve been doing it your whole life though and it is true sometimes the masks slips but you can quickly socially calibrate if you are non autistic but are neurodivergent. In my case I understand what social cues are and recognise them I just pretend to care that I want to follow and abide by them. When I was more low functioning I definitely disregarde…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:48 PM
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I’m not neurotypical and I agree that most of them are full of shit and would rather be lied to and manipulated at times/aren’t congruent whatsoever but are you mirroring and masking properly? It sounds to me you’re not doing it properly and it is obvious to neurotypicals as your mannerisms and ticks are being shone to light. Look up masking and mirroring from socio/psychopaths as they do it the best by far and do some practice drills so you carry yourself as well as possible. Make sure also you…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:39 AM
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Yeah that guys a fucking loser and a theory junkie if that’s who I’m thinking of who’s an awful PUA and doesn’t know shit about the U.K. scene approaching girls. Just ignore and move on.
/r/seduction08/10/22 08:41 PM
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Lol you should check out British TikTok of white girls saying that phrase in their accents
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:52 PM
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In England we say fit loads tbh as our slang, it means the guy or girl is good looking. I'm surprised Americans don't say it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:50 PM
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They also think above average looking men are all passive doormats/pussies or have a 100% success rate who let women do the work for them and its la la land from there just because they saw a few extreme yes girls doing the work for them. They chat so much shit sometimes its obvious some of them have never ever hung out or spoken to a guy whose a 6 let alone a 7.5-8 and just theorise about our lives lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:42 PM
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Kind of? We would agree with the common sense stuff of RP and some other ones that are not intuitively obvious to the average person ie if she makes you wait the sex is never worth the wait only betas think otherwise or sexual strategy is amoral(very based btw) but the vast majority its either iffy, incongruent to their initial messaging, misunderstandings to downright cringe. Modern PUA is more relatable honestly to me as a guy who had naturally "got it" with women and would give you better res…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:17 PM
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This concept for men on here would be like being taught advanced mathematics at undergraduate level for the first time. It’s obvious some men on here just theorise on women by the mere fact that they genuinely think an above average looking man can never turn off a woman or once the threshold has been passed that’s an excuse not to be a functional human being. Now I understand why women say there’s male sexuality projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 03:39 PM
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Getting rid of your main two sources to meet women and generate phone numbers/pulls then giving the standard nonsense mainstream advice of “take things slow and be friends with her first” lmao. You need volume in dating women and there’s no better way than doing it in a nightclub in a big city. Doing it your way there’s no where near enough volume for one to put home in his skills because chances are he’s socially uncalibrated and doesn’t carry himself well thus putting him the friendzone pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:57 AM
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Truly said by someone who actually hasn’t approached a random woman in a night setting on a regular basis. If you actually went out and approached women cold in nightclubs they just say I have a bf rejection or they say “I’m alright/not my type”. Very boring rejections and you get used to it quick. Harsh blowouts aren’t common I’d say they’re less than 2% of my rejections in my life. Also average=/= unattractive if they were average and struggling either they’re not average, their location is sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:28 AM
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How many numbers are you getting? If it’s less than 10 then it’s a volume issue. And also with cold approach nightgame I’ve found around half of the girls flake and/or ghost so if you’re only getting like 1-5 then it’s essential you increase your volume.
/r/seduction07/10/22 07:50 AM
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I’m black myself and it’s definitely a real thing that happens to usually uni educated black guys shotgun approaching non black women. I do agree though its exciting cause sex=validation for men but after a certain point they do feel used and not human anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:18 AM
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At first that’s true for those men but eventually they do get upset/pissed off. For example it’s not too uncommon to see some black men complaining about how certain non black women use him for sex and when he tries for a relationship they give every excuse under the sun only for them to snap up some (usually) white guy almost instantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:14 AM
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Why is being fuckzoned seen as a female only phenomena? It definitely does happen to certain types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:09 AM
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Exactly there’s only so much a woman would tolerate when she’s attracted to a guy. Like without game for example I wouldn’t have known about objection handling and how women want you to figure out a way to bypass their concerns. Or when she says “no spark” that means you didn’t sexualise or express your own attraction. And the importance of vocal projection and intonation. It’s definitely a skill game too many times I’ve used techniques and actions and I’ve seen womens faces literally light up. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:02 PM
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I’m shocked how some people are extremely black and white on takes like on here either every dude is extremely handsome or ugly or when someone suggests improving things in your control there’s always that one guy saying “this won’t work if you’re 5”0 and bald” like okay what man do you see out here where it’s common? If these guys saw me IRL they’d be thinking I was always a ladies man to the extent I am but the reality is I had to learn game formally because you can mess up so easily with a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:54 PM
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Ikr I can tell some of these men have never gone out or ever spoken to a good looking dude, cause reading what they say is total nonsense sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 01:50 PM
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Yes we do market ourselves in that way but PUA is just a tool, however you use it is down to the individual. We also don’t bother reframing our language to sound politically correct so that’s why it comes across icky. IRL I’ve discussed PUA concepts and techniques with women and they all agree with me the one they agree with the most is moving the conversation forward and taking charge by using a commanding tone/inclination when setting up dates or taking her somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:58 PM
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Really? What does RP say in an interaction from start to finish that resonates with you rather than modern pickup(which isn’t routines or negging btw)? Also why do these mainstream RP guys don’t live the life they preach? Only guy that does is Austin Dunham but he just relies off his face and when that doesn’t work he relies off clout from insta. There’s no way someone like Fresh just from two seconds from hearing him speak and how he carries himself would beat some advanced PUA like Playing wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:50 PM
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Yep. I do think for many of them this is what they think is exclusively meant by personality. Makes sense why they are so angry about certain men getting all the ladies and probably why they were nice guys. Think there has to be some better clarification on what a personality actually is in relation to picking up women. I'm not even a fan of TRP, but their sidebar discusses frame and other strategies in detail. They don't name it, but a lot of TRP's approach is NLP (neurolinguistic programming).…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 09:21 PM
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I think blackpillers and some Rpers think personality=morals, (academic) intelligence and virtues and since they believe that its comes across as if they're entitled(there's nothing wrong with being entitled to sex btw they just go about it the wrong way)/should be rewarded sex from women and when that doesn't happen they get pissed off or they're wondering how some dunderhead who isn't educated gets women easy peasy when in reality he's most likely having a light hearted relatable and fun conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 08:57 PM
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When I used to do it significantly I didn’t know what was going on and why people were pissed off. I only lie and manipulate only if essential or to circumvent my goal faster. With some of my other friends who do this no they don’t give a shit/they have to lie and manipulate due to them being actual socio/psychopaths. They’re the definition of amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 06:59 PM
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No you should be persistent if she doesn’t respond after 2-3 days especially if she’s a very conventionally attractive woman. Before that time frame tho don’t do it.
/r/seduction29/09/22 05:44 PM
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It depends what type of trauma. But most certainly you don't need to be mentally healthy to do well with women that's a myth. Conversely there's many men who have normal upbringings but are shit with women as they're beta and have no game. Only do it for yourself not women. But improving your skills with women most of the time translates to positive aspects of your life in general as you can carry yourself way better than you used to. Better boundaries, better treatment, higher self worth and es…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:34 PM
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Correct I don't desire relationships me having ONSs and rotations is enough for me but you need to know how to talk to girls and be proactive in order to get into a relationship I use my tools and skills with women to slay if I didn't want to sport fuck I can get into a relationship in 2 weeks at the earliest because I know how to. Like the easiest way to get into one is actually through hooking up and setting rotations, there's always gonna be a girl that wants one and catches feelings when you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:03 PM
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I don’t have a problem hooking up and dating pretty to hot women consistently and I’ve gone from a 6.5-7.5 in looks and I’ve always kept my standards between 6s-9.5s I never have dumpster dived but I’m just saying all men except for a few have to put work in. Dating=sales. And you can have a woman like you and still fuck it up by social awkwardness, being too logical, not pulling by the trigger, not sexualising/flirting poor body language etc. This happened (less so now) to my Gigachad friend wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 07:24 PM
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You still need to know what to do and what to say in order to get into a relationship. Dating women is like a business/second job
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:51 PM
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Yes absolutely, in fact it’s extremely rare for a narcissist to be diagnosed as one because they want to go or they think it’s because they’re a narcissist. We don’t know what’s going on, we usually go into therapy for a mood disorder, depression or by force. Part of being a narcissist is the strange contrasting feelings of believing you are flawless and perfect and the denial and self hatred of yourself. It’s why we put on a performance and act the way we do so people won’t clock on that we hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:49 PM
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I had cheated on her constantly out of boredom and depression/self-loathing and I had done the standard toxic narcissistic shit to her, she broke up with me as she had enough of it and she was actually one of the main factors for me going in for a diagnosis for clinical narcissism and a mood disorder along with my relationships completely falling apart and not understanding why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:03 PM
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Being approached by a woman means nothing if you don’t know how to move things forward to the main goal which is sex, same with makeouts and being complimented even going on dates. So yes handsome men do struggle but it’s usually a different type of struggle if they have anti-game and no common sense. Any guy at least a 5/10 in looks expect for being approached constantly can get what you’re talking about you don’t need to be handsome to experience it. Only time the girl will do all the work for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:58 PM
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That’s not true I get approached one every three nights and have 20 matches a day consistently on online dating and I still need to strategise and plan what to do and say on my dates albeit I’ve done it so many times now I can do it on autopilot. Attraction is useless if you don’t know how to circumvent it to your main goal as it’s a skill game. Plus the women I want the 8-10s expect you to put in some work and effort in since they have so many options. I’ve also had to teach Chads some basic so…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 04:51 PM
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Yes 3 guys I know, highest one was 250. Highest woman is 25 which is nothing so far
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:12 PM
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Like when I saw my ex I was genuinely infatuated to the point of obsession after hearing her voice and the way she had carried herself along with her looks. I like people who are “different” and because I have NPD one main trait that’s extremely true for me is the belief that those who hang out with me are special individuals also so my ex was that but x100.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:42 AM
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I have infatuation and feel love but its an extension of myself if that makes sense rather than how a neurotypical feels it. However keeping that up is a monumental task and I get bored after a few months
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:56 AM
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It fluctuates there's no stability since I am a self aware narcissist, its part of the nature of the condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 03:45 AM
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Kind of, I constantly dream of success and recognition on an extremely wide level, being in authority and those acknowledging my greatness. It comes from my (unhealthy) need for external validation otherwise I am not in a good place if I'm not being complimented and desired and known.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 01:09 AM
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It depends from the place where its coming from but for most straight men if they had the ability to shag loads of women they'd take it and never look back. For me I love fucking a new attractive woman I'll never get bored of it as it confirms to me in my mind I am magnificent, amazing and exceptional that out of all men she's chosen me especially women who break their rules. Also shagging loads of girls brings attention to yourself which I love in my mind it shows people recognise me as special…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 12:53 AM
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I 100% agree with this, it’s a huge misconception that men worship slayers. I’d like to add as well a lot of womanisers fuck the women some men were put in the friendzone. We also have a reputation of shagging taken women and the bfs and husbands in question are sometimes “upstanding men”. The only time men are impressed by a slayer is if they don’t really have any conventionally attractive features in the eyes of society, like just average everywhere or he’s in a very niche community like the P…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:23 PM
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Maybe that's women on social media that say this, IRL I've openly said I want a feminine, confident and submissive woman and I never got weird or backlash over it from women and some comment on it themselves that I go for girls like that. With age preferences as well I find it no big deal so as long as it isn't a massive age gap difference and even then they don't ponder over it too much. At most what you get is women telling you to stop overemphasising looks and focus on more internal qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 02:39 PM
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Oh nah the dudes a tramp idgaf he’s a pussy especially with the circumstances leading to his arrest+ I live on the other side of the city+I’m at uni hours away.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 12:06 PM
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In England where I'm from they're usually equal or the girl is much better looking than the dude, this is especially true in working class communities I've noticed some white man who is a 4 who looks like a holocaust surviour is dating an 8. Like one guy who went my school who went to prison for battering an old man almost to death had a STUNNING gf waiting for him and he's one of the ugliest men I have ever seen I wish I could send a photo. On the less extreme the best guy I knew with girls was…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:31 AM
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5'6"/5'7" is when I would imagine most people would start to see a guy as noticeably shorter than most other guys, for young men at least. Fair enough I'd agree with that, I think below 5"6 is where you'd start seeing some discrimination from girls regarding height. It depended on location cause i was going between my home city and my uni city, boosts and my pics+bio but i thought that would be an average rate of matches in America? In my country since its 9:1 I'd agree I am above average but I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 09:23 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 06:13 PM
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Those annoying fucking wankers who always wanna start shit when you look over and think you’re looking at their girl thinking they’re a big man but are terribly insecure inside. Those are the only toxic men I cannot stand have battered 3 dudes over this BS they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/22 05:40 PM
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I’m explaining it in the context of seducing women, obviously there’s other parts of masculinity which is biological and societal. They can but it’s not common especially in the context of courting. They’re a minority. Nah it’s based off my experience they don’t hookup with loads of girls nor they desire to. To be having causal sex with different women consistently you need to be proactive and be taking charge of things you can’t afford to be passive and just let things happen. For example men o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 11:34 AM
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When I mean masculinity I mean taking charge, being decisive, dominant, moving things forward and assertive which is what you need for the majority of women tbh. I've never met a man that was feminine and good with girls like as in widely attractive to all women and those men don't really have that much of a desire for endless casual sex they're more serial monogamists. All the guys I know with a high body count and have autonomy over their dating lives are very masculine men both in behaviour a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:28 PM
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Isn't 5"9 considered short in this sub? If not what do men on here consider a short man? I understand some of the concerns with online dating especially since I met a dude who used to programme for a dating site on my internship as the algorithm naturally penalises men unless they pay extra but even when I was a 6 I still put in the work and I got matches coming through(around 7-12 matches a day on each app). Looking at the men's photos its below par and its as if they impress men more than they…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 10:16 PM
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I think some of these dudes are extremely neurotic to the point where they can't order a domino's pizza without assistance and have extremely negative opinions of themselves, which to be honest I've noticed this a lot in real life with men my age it's rare not to encounter a guy with huge negativity and self loathing about themselves. That or they're lying about being average looking and they can't come to terms of being below average along with them lacking any form of masculinity. Geography al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:34 PM
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7.5/10 face worst I've ever looked face wise was a 6.5/10 and I still didn't struggle. Height- 5"9
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:27 PM
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I’m 20 turning 21 and I’ve never had a deep struggle with women apart from my ex which I caused and a small dry spell before game fixed my problems. I can pretty much walk up to a woman in cold approach and know with high certainty I can shag her that same night. Shagging university girls especially white middle class ones is a joke it’s not that hard honestly it’s just game 101. Tinder, hinge and bumble I don’t relate to men on here bitching and moaning about it it’s an incredibly efficient way…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 08:16 PM
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I’m not bluepilled by any means but has anyone actually said to you lot looks don’t matter? I’ve never ever heard anything along those lines with men and women, the only thing I and a few of my male friends have had backlash over is our focus on a woman’s appearance and we should focus more on personality but never looks don’t matter at all. I find it outstanding how men on here act it’s some huge revelation like it’s basic common sense and your intuition should be telling you the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 06:30 PM
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High value is an attraction technique/action by PUAs you were/are meant to display on the girl when running game originally but the definition has been expanded upon and slightly bastardised from its true meaning to the point where it’s entirely subjective now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 05:57 PM
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In regards to sexualisation you can either show it by words or by body language, its just down to what you prefer. Personally I prefer using body language and subcommunications to sexualise and build sexual tension but for words I say sexual innuendos and jokes and then test her reaction, if she is compliant? Good amp up the sexualisation, if non compliant? Turn it down a notch and calibrate after the fact. I should also ask are you aware of the idea of frame and frame control? That's also anoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 10:54 PM
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My boys think like this and I am the exception, they wouldn't even wife up or respect a girl who has had a ONS or said she'll be open to that let alone sex on the first date and think I'm the odd one for wanting a girl that is "easy". We debate about it but its always a stalemate honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 04:45 PM
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Naive men, all the RP guys are massive scammers except for one or two I can think of. Watching two minutes of their videos it’s beyond obvious they don’t live the life they preach and shag and wife up extremely clapped girls. Like who watches that stuttering retard from that trashy podcast and thinks he could attract a paper bag let alone a woman? Their followers on YT and on here even usually just make excuses on why they can’t get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:58 AM
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That and dirty hands and them using classic white boy flirting like “you’re an absolute sort babes”, name is probably Jack or James. If it’s not them then it’s always some slim to very skinny white guy wearing a basic Nike training t shirt with a middle part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:53 AM
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Are you English by any chance? This is definitely true where I live and where I stay for uni lmao you see some basic white man with a beard wearing ICON who is average in looks and height with some 7.5 minimum all the time and he's a binman. So common in working class communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 01:13 AM
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Yeah I’ve cheated multiple times in my last relationship, it was because I was horny and bored so I done it. It was also annoying how previously I couldn’t shag a new girl like I used to when I was single because I am committed so I had grown resentment towards her and went with my impulses with the wandering eye. I don’t have any guilt because it’s extremely rare for me to feel it it’ll probably hit me later on when I go through further therapy and I cannot further backwards rationalise my beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:24 PM
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Exactly and because of the nature of ASPD it’s usually short term unless they are high functioning psychopaths and know (and care cause majority don’t) what’s going on. I just can’t believe these red pill guys actually believe those who are in the cluster B go completely mask off for women like no it’s social suicide and we can be under the radar because we’ve practiced our whole life. No we make people feel good and comes across as extremely charismatic. Some socially maladjusted dumbass readin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:36 PM
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Exactly how do they think even some dickhead or violent man gets women? It’s never ever us going mask off sometimes it slips but we quickly socially calibrate(men on PPD especially will fail at this) or sometimes certain traits of the cluster B look positive and attractive and women AND men can’t tell the difference. It’s social suicide if we go mask off and we’ve been doing it our whole lives so I don’t know why RP guys think all of a sudden we’d change for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:13 PM
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No worries I just find it extremely cringe that these guys glorify dark triad men and try to be us by thinking being a stereotypical narcissist or sociopath mask off and these guys have zero clue what and how we go about things. And giving and saying outright bullshit on the way me and some of my friends with NPD and ASPD act. They’d be the type I’d fuck over just for fun if I ever met them. They are right that men and women with cluster B disorders are successful but always always get the reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:08 PM
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It’s the internet and I say so because I say certain things that piss off people as I’m mask off unfiltered. In real life I definitely definitely do not tell people unless they’re extremely close to me what I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:56 PM
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What's your laycount now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 04:37 AM
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can’t get laid is if he’s short or ethnic. People often leave that detail out of their story. What do you mean by ethnic? I've found that's always a euphemism for an Asian man and never any other races, it's like people on here forget mixed race and black people exist. I haven't struggled hard apart from a dry spell in my life which was fixed by formal game with women and I'm black and 5"9. Mixed race men I've never seen significant struggle unless they are going for black girls when they "sound…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:53 AM
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If you are at least a 5 and you have above average to elite social skills in seduction you should have no problem attracting women 1-3 points above your looks level. The only times good looking men have "struggled" in my life is when they have literally zero social IQ, extremely logical and boring, never escalating towards sex, beating down one conversation thread to death and never moving the conversation forward, passive, having anxiety high neuroticism and a horrible mindset which sabotages t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:39 AM
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Yeah during day to day life I reframe being pleasant and kind to people as doing them a favour and when they praise me that's them acknowledging I am great and special in my mind. As supposed to being extremely arrogant, condescending and having a God complex due to me being "different" (still do but I just have it more in control). One thing I struggle with is ego as per the nature of the disorder but I have noticed guys and women with pure ASPD don't have this huge internal struggle compared t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 03:26 AM
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Some get blown out instantly for off putting behaviours especially when it was a woman on their level looks wise after girls giving them IOIs and clear attraction signals and if they have zero social IQ so they struggle not being a social dunderhead but never have I met one that was incel level, they all got their foot in the door and attracted a woman some point in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:28 AM
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In regards to what I mean by the spectrum, I mean high functioning sociopath or psychopath and low functioning sociopath or psychopath. My therapist defined it for NPD(a high functioning or low functioning narcissist) but said that it applies to ASPD also and a few of my friends who have ASPD have experienced and agreed that its a spectrum because we are so different personality wise. High functioning socio/psychopath would be able to hold down a job, have some form of sustainability in their re…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 01:59 AM
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If you know are you more on the sociopathic or psychopathic spectrum of ASPD? I'd add also when you genuinely cannot feel remorse or guilt you have a level of zero fucks given that a neurotypical can never reach because they care too much about social rules and others. That comes across as attractive because its seen as non neediness and abundance mindset. I agree with everything you say here apart from sociopathic parents can't feel love for their kids or even their closest friends, I think thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:32 AM
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Did the first man have no remorse, compulsive lying, no guilt, no empathy, being extremely reckless and have poor impulse control? Was he also very very manipulative and struggled to maintain long term friendships? And was it persistent? If it was neither of those he's not someone with ASPD at all. It sounds like that man is just socially retarded and had zero social tact and awareness, not that he was a psychopath, no man or woman with ASPD would ever act like this unless they want something ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 12:15 AM
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I am not psychopathic I am a narcissist but we do similar things so I will give a list and some of the stuff I do any normal person who has charisma and knows how to talk to women can do this. Constant testing to gauge where her levels of compliance are and generating it, so one example of testing for compliance is a yes ladder which is just baby stepping to your main goal. If you get compliance you move things forward, if you have negative compliance you dial it back or punish her behaviour unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:57 PM
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Yes they do, you wouldn't know a genuine psychopath just from a few interactions unless you are either in the cluster B spectrum, raised around similar people or a literal expert in body language. They are extremely good at being charming and lying to people in general. It's the micro body language neurotypicals take for granted they mirror and its subtle. In secondary school more of our "bad" traits, you mention come about but we quickly adapt and learn its better to get what you want by appeal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:27 PM
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Correct, same with those who are sociopaths and diagnosed narcissists we do not want you to know there's something off with us because of the social stigma associated with it. Red Pillers are hilariously stupid if they think we actually go mask off to women in regards to sleeping with them and thinking they can try to be us just by "practice".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:22 PM
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Those who are in the cluster B spectrum because we lack certain emotions are forced to mimic and wear a mask to pretend we are neurotypical so to speak. So we know what people want to hear, those who are high functioning we do not show our "bad" traits only those who are low functioning do. This is why women and men say "they were so so charming at first" because we have extremely adept social skills just by studying and sizing up neurotypicals and calculating our next move. However usually from…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 11:14 PM
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I would say personally that women who you haven’t shagged before you won’t have a long term sustained relationship. The straight and bi women who are my friends and have had the strongest and best relationship with were girls who used to be in my rotation and/or hooked up with. The ones who I never shagged always drifted apart/never spoke to again eventually and this has aligned with my male friends experiences also with female friendships. Only be friends with those who you either friendzone or…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 07:49 PM
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They’re the same women who’ll say “why do me want sex so much”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. I’m sure these types were either women who dated low T/sex drive men and trying to extrapolate that onto all men like they usually do lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 02:47 AM
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Gay men and lesbians are a fantastic example of this, if women truly had the sex drives of men monogamy would die out within a week. The world would be complete chaos. Based post and most straight men are in a relationship out of necessity and simplicity, if they had the ability to be a player they would never look back.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 05:22 PM
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Rejections are very boring and you get used to them pretty quickly, the most common one is I have a man/bf rejection, we're lesbians, her friends cockblocking and dragging you away before you have the chance to speak and the worst is them ignoring you. I haven't had a brutal rejection and neither have my friends who cold approach honestly. For context I'm 20M from England and 5"9.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 09:47 AM
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Nice to see an acknowledgment and importance of game from a woman and differentiate it from personality also. I'd also say when women on here talk about behaviour being attractive and men do the latter thinks its morals and good virtues and the former is referring to taking charge and initiative, flirting, masculinity and dominance etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:00 PM
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That boyfriend is based, never take advice from white straight women I’m sure this is where so many guys are confused because of them. Only consider the advice of non white women or lesbians of any race.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 06:54 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:08 PM
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The latter i am not monogamous and never will after my last LTR, I can approach any woman and with high chance i will bang no problem. I relate to gay dudes morseo than straight men about being promiscuous honestly and i agree if most men had the ability to slay to my level or (some) PUAs, women would be moving mountains for a relationship. Being a slayer is a very addicting lifestyle and hard to get out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 01:24 AM
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Nice guys are not boring men, that is a myth perpetuated by women who feel guilty for not wanting men like them. They are actually some of the most charismatic men you’ll meet, that’s why they have so many female friends because women especially love charismatic men. You’ll not find a charismatic man without some female attention. Their issue is that they are not masculine and assertive hence why they struggle with women the vast vast majority of the time. A lot of women have “the window of time…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 09:56 PM
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Yes I agree with everything you’ve said, I’d put dating women down to looks+charisma+volume. But volume will imo give you the feeling of being less needy due to constant exposure to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:42 PM
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This is location dependent imo, I’d say a lot more women are down for causal it’s just that most men do not know how to illicit those emotions and/or vet properly. I agree though as a guy who has causal frequently men want it more than women, it’s partially why I tell men to approach approach approach. You can causally date women who are “relationship” girls and sleep with them on the first date as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 05:27 PM
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Why do you assume all men who want casual sex want to deceive and exploit women? There’s women who want the same thing and they enjoy sex and you can screen out for those girls. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but sometimes people just wanna explore.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:47 PM
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there’s men no matter what you say to convince them are just wired to sleep with women and never ever have the desire to have a relationship let alone marriage. with those men it’s how they are not because of “issues”. do not assume every guy that’s a womaniser=fuckboy/toxic/manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:35 PM
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I also would tell him not to go for hot girls straight away he needs to do baby steps because hot girls will be more unforgiving towards socially uncalibrated men. Only after a few shags(around 10-20) then I’d tell him to move up a notch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:23 PM
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I’m a PUA not red pill so idk if they think anyone who isn’t RP is blue pilled but the obvious first thing to do is to put himself in environments where there is a high volume of women. He (and men on here) needs to get used to the fact that rejection is part of the game and you get used to it fast along with women giving boring rejections like “I have a boyfriend” “you’re not my type”. Too many men cling their hopes to one woman when they should be to a large extent doing a shot gun approach. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 04:16 PM
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Exactly it’s odd how these men bang on about alpha male traits but when it’s time to do them they’ll backwards rationalise and then blame it on their face. Thinking you can afford to be always passive when you have a nice face lmao or men are either extremely handsome or ugly wtf. Some of these men are beyond helping and they like the Disney fantasy a lot more than they let on IMO. Most rejections are very boring but they read too much social media toxicity unfortunately and think the majority o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:40 PM
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The most you'll get is "I have a boyfriend" or "sorry you're not my type" when approaching women, rejections are very boring its not often you'll get such an adverse reaction as women never forget the strength differential between them and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 11:41 PM
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Uh no I've said this a few times but I have seen Chads get rejected and struggle with women for being off putting, extremely logical and passive, having anxiety and never pulling the trigger. When I mean struggle I mean having autonomy over your dating life. I am teaching this one Chad who looks like a Matthew Noszka clone who has the worst social IQ I've ever seen game because he persistently gets rejected after he's passed the looks threshold because he has off putting behaviours by women. He …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:56 PM
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100% agree with this, we call this the window of time in PUA. It’s a pretty short period of time in the early stages of courting whereby leading, flirting and building sexual tension is paramount for a woman to see you as a sexual being. This is true in real life and online dating only extreme yes girls and masculine women will do the work for you. On the 1-3rd date this is especially important but most men treat their dates like a friend or sister, do interview questions, extremely logical, nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 09:46 PM
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It is probably one of these reasons You are not masculine and assertive and those men are You don’t state your intent and establish the premise of a non platonic interaction with a woman by flirting, moving things forward and building sexual tension AKA game and those emotionally unavailable men done so Your looks aren’t up to scratch/ they aren’t into you physically You probably have some neurodivergency and thinking attraction is transactional. You’re being a doormat and are a target to certai…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 07:24 PM
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There’s many benefits of being a womaniser/ladies man/slayer or fuckboy. Plus there’s plenty of women you can vet for a quick shag or change their mind about wanting a relationship and put you as FWB category. You can definitely have a body count in the triple digits without seeing escorts. Me and three of my friends have done it through online game and night/day game todays world it’s honestly not that difficult if you know what you’re doing. I do agree there’s negatives from other men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 06:57 PM
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Yes we say this a lot in game, in the initial interactions maybe girls will shit test you far more because they're lukewarm but once you pass them they shouldn't shit test you again especially if you have good frame. Yes girls in my experience will do one or two but they drop the act afterwards. Congruence is extremely important to women but luckily for men they cannot tell the difference between learnt and natrual confidence so as long as you take baby steps. I agree as well with how a good por…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:43 PM
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Their talking points constantly only see elite white men as men and then extrapolating that to apply to all men. It’s beyond obvious that these people only acknowledge elite white men as men and are just hurt that they mistreats them but never put two and two together that this is only a certain type of man and the vast majority of men will never be on that level. Other men are invisible to these women unless if they want to attack us after they’re hurt again for the 50th time. Nothing makes me …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:35 PM
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And out of that % how many of those Asian(I'll use Asian in this context as all of Asia not just East Asians) men who are married actually have partners who are attracted to them? I don't believe its that high given the negative stereotypes perpetuated and their rates of arranged marriages. It cannot be discounted that those women are settling for them because they have money so they have a safety net, not because there was any physical attraction. Stability is just not living in squalor unless …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 01:23 AM
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A narc would be someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder in the context I am saying it in. When the average neurotypical says narcissist they just mean a dickhead or someone with traits of narcissism they don't even know there's a whole personality disorder. There's a difference between having narcissistic traits and NPD. Andrew Tate is a great example of someone with NPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:54 PM
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Why do Asian Americans on here and elsewhere online constantly complain about how their race is a detriment to dating and how even when making a shitload of money they're overlooked? I am not American so this is what I see from this sub and on social media. Why do the race and dating stats show Asian men being one of the least desired races yet they on average earn good money? And given your countries divorce rate is 50% its not an accurate assessment of wealth=genuine attraction and just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:36 PM
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They can still have instant blowouts and have struggles and the average dude can equal if not surpass them in charisma and game. That's not true at all my wing is a mixed race Chad and gets insta rejected by black women because he speaks like a white dude, and they had the attraction for him the only time he can make moves is if he fakes his voice to sound more like some London black guy. I know Chads who basically get the window shut because they are too logical, too serious, have social anxiet…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:55 PM
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For low-functioning narcs, most people (I hope) can spot them but if not low functioning the women that can either have friends/family members that have the disorder, an expert on body language or they are part of the cluster B themselves. The rest and even men won't know if someone's a clinical narcissist from first impression. Like this one chick I used to see she was talking about how this guy approached her in an extremely montone voice, barely holding eye contact, saying "mmmm" after every …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:39 PM
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You can buy anything you want in the world as a man with money but you'll never buy a woman's genuine affection and desire. If that was the case you wouldn't be seeing Asian American men earning well into six figures and couldn't even attract a bee to honey let alone women and them constantly complaining about it. The same goes for STEM graduates more specifically computer programmers. Money does give you opportunities and a safety net to go on dates with women and take them out but money in its…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 09:29 PM
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Yes if they're low functioning and overt, it is very rare though to see one in action, especially a diagnosed one. Although most people get a narc and a general asshole or cocky person mixed up. NPD comes from your genetics and childhood experience but I agree I've noticed an uptick of self-centredness and narcissistic traits and our social media algorithms definitely play a role and shit parenting, but that's completely different from the full-blown disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 04:15 PM
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It’s the job title not the money and are those women lusting for that dude for his money? Plus these a lot men completely neglect their social skills and/or looks and are targets for provider hunters/gold diggers. Not saying don’t make money of course you should but not for genuine desire from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:50 PM
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Yes I'll concede that fame and some form of status after your location is the most important factor in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:33 PM
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When you are referring to lower quality are you talking about her looks? I agree dumpster diving to an extent is easier but its nowhere near as hard to bed a woman who is a 7+ on a night out or on the first date. You can surprise yourself how receptive some women are to escalation of a higher looks level as long as you are socially aware. Chad is an incredibly rare man, especially how he's described on here. Chadlites are more common like 7-7.5s and even then that's a stretch. Most men let alone…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 03:07 PM
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I am just saying it as a point as it is true having a cluster B personality disorder gives you a leg up in social interactions if we are bothered to interact with people and mask to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:43 PM
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For security and provisioning yes money is important especially if they want to settle down, get married and have children. But that isn't an attraction trigger compared to looks or charisma money is wanted by women as a safety net. And this varies from country to country due to some countries putting more emphasis on class/social status than how much money is in your bank account or how the modern economy is doing. ​ I don't think that is the fate for most men though being in such a volatile po…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 02:39 PM
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Money has never and will never generate genuine attraction, I’m so sick of men constantly telling other men to get your money up for women. As long as you aren’t living in squalor you’re good to go, and even if a guy gets loads of money he wouldn’t even have time to date that much as the more money you make=more hours. Looks game logistics>Looks money status Good looking men can and do struggle with women and an average-above looking man can have full autonomy over his dating life whether that b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:50 PM
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I was talking to this 5”6 blonde girl whose sister was on a U.K. famous TV reality show and I was running my usual shit and then this jacked 6”1 loudmouth tried ruining the interaction and tried put me down. I am 5”9 and 74kg for context and this dude had the thickest Welsh accent I’ve ever heard so you could barely understand what he’s saying. So with tall and muscular men or just gymbros it’s very very easy to bait them into saying something stupid so what I’d done is I gave him a pat on the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 11:09 AM
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Not inherently a normal person can do this, it’s just having a purpose for talking to a girl. It stops unnecessary fluff and beating one topic to death like most men do talking to girls and encourages moving the convo forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 10:48 AM
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Most men in my country do not like feminists(me included) or don't give a damn about them and women are indifferent/don't care about feminism. Overt crazy feminists are a minority if I'm being honest but we still have decent to good experiences with women. They'd be better off knowing how to vet properly for a compatible and good woman in their home nation rather than selling everything and land in a potentially volatile position in a different country.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:48 AM
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Why should we if we're successful with girls? Not all of us are failures with women and don't have good to amazing experiences with women. Some of us can actually get women to be compliant and treat us really well in the UK and America (and no you don't have to be a 6"6 Matthew Noszka clone). And I'm saying this as a short non white man not some average basic white man. Plus what about language barriers, culture and leaving family and friends? Most people in America and in England are living pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:41 AM
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Yes 5"6-5"11 is my sweet spot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:53 PM
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Yeah far too many men in this world have too much empathy and neuroticism for women, they should find methods of reducing their cognitive and emotional empathy instead of trying to supplicate and complain about "immoral" men stealing all the women. You shouldn't have a problem with setting up everything you do and say as a premeditated plan to get laid, every interaction with women should serve a purpose no matter how "right" or "wrong" it is in the eyes of women and society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 06:27 PM
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Lol funny thing is PUAs still teach AMOGing, one company actually prides on it and makes their students AMOG guys with surprising success cause most guys don't see the juice being worth the squeeze+most dudes are crap with women anyways so its not too hard AMOGing. It is only applied when doing it to some random dude not your mates. Anyways the most cringe thing I see is these lads lads lads type men who are our equivalent of stereotypical frats, they're chest thumping gorillas who think being s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/22 02:53 PM
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This is the same in my experience also with friends and acquaintances who are sociopaths or psychopaths, and narcs like me. Very easy to fake a personality cause of the nature of the disorders. It’s cringe when they actually think we act mask off from the get go even the most low functioning wear some sort of mask lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 10:16 AM
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I have a cluster B disorder and part of that “dark triad” they are right in the sense that we do get women on average compared to some neurotypical man but it’s not for the reasons they think normally. People like me who have NPD or ASPD we have blunted emotions to not even feeling certain emotions whatsoever. As a result we (mostly subconscious) can put on any mask that is behaviourally attractive to women because we have zero fucks that is impossible to reach for a neurotypical(expect for pure…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 05:40 AM
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20 years old- From England and the perspective of me living in a small city for uni and in a big one as my hometown Average I’d say 2-5, from who I’ve spoken to what I’ve gathered and experienced for myself is around 25+ laycount and beyond is when you’re seen as a slayer/ladies man or a promiscuous woman in the eyes of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 05:17 AM
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I’d say so otherwise you’d be at a massive disadvantage, especially if you’re in my age range. It’s not impossible to pull without social media but it does make it more difficult for yourself. Just take a minimalist approach to social media I’d say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 01:15 PM
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Care to tell the story? I have stories for days of friends with ASPD, fully diagnosed psychopaths and narcissists who do really well with women who (like me to an extent) have a very different interpretation of what is right and wrong. Literally faking and lying about their whole personalities to pump and dump cause they're so socially adept at manipulation. One guy who admitted if a woman told him she was raped he'd go "oh" as a first reaction. Another who's ex was nearly driven to suicide caus…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:35 PM
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It's because of the unawareness of how "off" they are and thus they do not mask and do mirroring properly in order to fly under the radar when interacting with neurotypicals. Their bluntness without taking into consideration of other people's feelings is also extremely off-putting to neurotypicals and some neurodivergents unless they learn how to frame language properly to get their point across. I personally like autistic people cause I can go mask off with them and have a similar level of dire…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:25 PM
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Absolutely, these men demonstrate attractive qualities. The key one being masculinity and dominance. Contrary to popular belief nice/good men aren’t boring in fact they’re very very charismatic, that’s why women wanna make friends with them. But they lack assertiveness and masculinity and thus will be stuck on the hamster wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:15 PM
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Solid post, I’ve known way too many men who were very morally questionable if not outright morally bankrupt slaying with women. The type of guys who throw their grandmother in a fire for a quick buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 08:26 PM
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They’re relying off luck, carrying themselves better than most men, or women choosing them. Men who do something special are a part of 1-5% of men who have some form of game/seduction skills, whether learnt formally or they’re naturals. The rest will be relying on women picking them and luck honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:41 PM
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Depends on age and location, social circles/certain communities. What I define a high slaycount onto an individual would depend on those factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:07 PM
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You’re definitely an exception to this why would you do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 12:24 PM
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"Let's just be friends. You're so great, the attraction just isn't there. I don't feel the spark." If that's in the context of a date that's a guys fault because he had passed the looks threshold of that woman, otherwise she wouldn't have gone on the date with him in the first place, he just couldn't steer it in an assertive and masculine manner and create chemistry and arousal. Boring good looking people always have other boring people Tbh in my experience these men are not entirely happy with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:49 AM
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How many tall and handsome men do you see in your life to have a view like this? That type of dude is incredibly rare if anything good looking men are not even tall from my experience apart from one guy. To say that you cannot be successful dating as a non handsome dude is not true there isn't even enough of them in the world to begin with and people are not binary in terms of black and white on attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 02:28 AM
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Enjoy, these are some of the few legit PUAs that demonstrate results for themselves and their clients. You'd also notice generally it's just do this then this rather than inputting their opinion of women unlike RP guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 12:57 PM
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It’s more now onto online game and less so nightgame and (except for America) even less so for day game. For cold approach they emphasise more of sub communications and the fundamentals (ie moving the conversation forward or speaking in a downward vocal inflexion) rather than doing “say this line”. At most it’s just training wheels and majority of PUAs are against routines nowadays except for objection handling. Oh and despite what morons on here think we actually do say looks matter it was only…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 08:02 AM
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Yes I’m cluster B if that counts as neurodivergent. NPD and traits of ASPD are my main disorders, never ever struggled with women to the level guys talk about here tho.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/22 12:55 AM
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Online dating is great and efficient if you know what you're doing, it's clearly the way of the future and so men and some women have to adapt or else they'll find it much harder to date. There's obvious shady shit that these companies do but you can still have a good experience if you put a semblance of effort into it+ knowing how to market yourself on them which so far men do very very poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 03:01 PM
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Great post, this is especially true if you're a black and mixed guy and you've turned off women because you speak and sound a certain way even when you've passed the threshold. Speaking with a downward inflexion and intonation predominately is the way to go whereas upwards indicates permission seeking and inseucrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 06:15 PM
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True say, I would say if you are very high functioning with solid therapy I'd say that's a marker for success imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:27 PM
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Not always, certain neurodivergent disorders can play an "advantage" if you know what you are doing and can give you above average levels in social skills and awareness like ASPD for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 10:04 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 11:22 AM
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What’s shocking is how the amount of people on this sub that downplay this shit happening. Im not a huge fan of RP but they get it right on women making one guy wait but banging another guy quickly. It’s very common for girls with either low laycounts, reformed hoe phase girls that I’ve banged have made some dorky guy wait and relationship/conservative girls who break their rules for me. This is why partially I’ll never agree with if she sleeps with you fast=she must be easy. When the reality is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 07:54 AM
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I 1000% agree, its why I have contention when people say men get praised for their slaycount, no it is only men that are deemed not conventionally attractive in the eyes of society and manage to slay with women consistently above their looks level. No man is getting giddy and giving respect to some 6"5 Chad who barely has to say a sentence to pull. It's great also when you are in a country where the men are total chodes and don't ever bother approaching women so competition is low. And then at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:19 PM
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How does your sales experience translate into social skills on a platonic and romantic level? My dad is a salesman and many of the things he taught me helped immensely with navigating social interactions and he himself is a very confident charismatic guy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 12:29 PM
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This guy in my friendship circle, the most normal looking English guy you’ll come across, nothing special physically or height wise but my God the way he lit up a room he could start a bonfire. I have never ever seen a man command, be grounded, dictate and dominate an environment the way he could but at the same time really build comfort and make it seem like he has known you for years. He was unsurprisingly the best guy I have ever seen with women since he just knew how to make them tick and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 10:58 AM
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I agree and even when you do the right things and she’s clearly attracted it doesn’t always mean you’ll seal the deal, especially in clubs where her friends are constantly cockblocking and trying to distract her. Learning game is hard if you weren’t a natural but it is very rewarding provided you have introspection and not just spam approaching with zero thought. I’d estimate about 1-5% of men have game imo. The rest will just rely off women choosing them+ luck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 09:49 AM
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Yes I agree with this as someone who has NPD with ASPD traits and has friends who have other cluster B disorders. It's not that we come across as morally repugnant in the first impression(or in general most of us don't wanna harm cause of the social stigma unless it is necessary) but most certainly we will/have to put on masks and at best exaggerate certain features about ourselves, at worst outright lie and completely fake an attractive personality to get what we want. And yes this does take ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 10:22 PM
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Now imagine him mixed race, 5”11, British and sounding like a white girl from Essex(the British equivalent of Californian valley girl) approaching black women who like him clearly and you have my wingman and best friend lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 12:35 AM
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Definitely agree, even when you pass the looks threshold you can still fuck it up with the girl despite many many chances she will give you because of bad behaviour/game/strategy. Or even the sound of your voice can turn off a girl despite her being physically attracted to you at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 11:36 PM
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158 laycount they were all the above from online dating and nightclubs, social circles and a bit of daytime approaches and no I expected I’d stop at around 100-110 and then settle but I still wanna go and hit absurdly high numbers (4-500+)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/22 08:18 PM
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Jesus Christ you’re an Asian Chad, congratulations on the work you’ve put in and keep on reaping the rewards. Great video.
/r/seduction31/07/22 03:16 PM
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He is the greatest salesman and marketer I have ever seen on the internet, his charisma is through the roof and he's hilarious too. No wonder men and some women like and respect him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 10:54 AM
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I’ll tone down the PUA and sales terms I thought people would’ve been familiar with them but no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:19 AM
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They’re not models in the traditional sense. They aren’t handsome men by any means but they clearly stand out. They were dudes who just took pro photos and one of them is a PUA. The photographer in question actually delivers results if you look at his testimonial page. Yes if you read my flair I am one and mix in with my own natural game. I have consistent results and so do my friends following this advice. Also this is nothing like early pick up I don’t recommend routines or completely socially…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:16 AM
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Nah hahahaha nice one and yes obviously that doesn’t need to be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 12:13 AM
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No as a neurodivergent me and you know we have to mask and more specific tailored dating advice is essential. No such thing as "just be yourself/genuine" neurotypicals don't accept us(well they do for cluster B level narcissists and socio/psychopaths of first impression) but you get the point. Don't let anyone demonise you or make you feel like shit because you intellectually learnt social skills applied to dating and "never got it".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:54 PM
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This is continuing on from what i wrote: Texting continued Screening by qualification- I screen through my bio but on text rather than qualifying myself I make the girl qualify herself to me unlike the majority of guys who constantly want to prove themselves to the girl. The close- This is basically painting the idea of a date with you once you've built enough investment and assuming compliance and attraction. I use the "yes ladder" compliance technique, so for example I usually ask "do you like…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:36 PM
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I'll divide this into pictures, matches, bio and texting so this will be pretty long Pictures: First and foremost online game is sales, dating is in general but online dating is this point heavily driven. You must have a great product as men are the sellers, women are the buyers. This is to generate leads/phone numbers. Once the man in question realises this he must fit an archetype, you cannot afford to play it safe to appease everyone, you realise women in general no matter what opinion you ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:34 PM
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Nah I’m 5”8-5”9 ish and most of my results come from online, especially Bumble where I’m at. I optimised the online game as much as possible so it can reduce the amount of women who’ll hold it against me. Plenty of leads and the same goes with my friends who are between 5”7-5”11 cause we know what we’re doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 08:16 PM
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Get your laycount up to 10-20 and then have a reconsideration, if you still feel this way then you're a relationship kinda guy. There's nothing wrong with that after all seduction is just a toolbox to decide what u ultimately want out of your dating life. You don't need to bang 100-300+ women if that's not in you.
/r/seduction29/07/22 05:58 PM
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On Hinge if she invites you to chat after you opened her from the prompt do another opener and go from there, girls expect guys to make the first open even after they invited you to chat. On Tinder you'll always have time wasters so if she doesn't respond to your first opener move on as there is low probability she'll respond to your double text due to noncompliance. Also the opener you had is suboptimal you could say "swiped right for X", "can I be honest" "Hey X eyes/troublemaker/trouble" "You…
/r/seduction29/07/22 04:31 PM
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Dating aside that sounds like a miserable miserable life to live, just seeing your job as your life nah that is awful. Hopefully the dude doesn’t get depressed on how monotonous his life is because at this point it’s wageslaving. Plus if he’s already making bank I’d assume he’s got some saved and can cut down hours just for some sanity let alone for women lmao. Hopefully a friend or two can bring him out or at least give a bit of a check. That’s if he isn’t also a target for male leeches because…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:21 PM
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This guys slays, best comment and reasoning I’ve seen on here. Just add in the fact it’s also good social awareness and it’s golden.
/r/seduction29/07/22 12:56 PM
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Hit the nail on the head here, I think some men also don’t realise working hours to the time you actually need to spend with women. Especially in corporate America and England like you ain’t gonna do much hobbies when you’re at 3-500k let alone be able to multidate and fully give women your attention. Going for a remote job at 50k would be a far far far better strategy for men dating women than an investment banker at 300k. How was the man you’re datings past like relationship wise both platonic…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:30 PM
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I was honestly shocked some men had been taught this boomer level advice and some people are still adamant that money genuinely illicits attraction. Money imo would make a difference if you went from 25k to 80k because you’d be able to afford a better living situation and be able to go on dates without frying your bank account but it’s a massive diminishing returns from say 80 to 150k. It’s a far far better ROI just to looksmaxx purely rather than spending almost decades getting your money up fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:22 PM
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Yes this is so so true, sometimes it is purely right place at the right time and if you don’t put yourself constantly near that right place you’ll never ever get fed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:12 PM
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Excuse me do I know you? I barely talk about him lmao what the hell are you talking about. I’m just telling you the truth no need to become so reactive just because it goes against your own personal beliefs that multiple multiple people have gotten results and have attested to his skill. I can show you my own personal results from him and it would be better than 80% of the communities on here. The closest guy next to him I can definitely vouch for because I know people who personally have seen h…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/22 12:08 PM
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Because they have piss poor social skills and game or they're so overwhelmed that they do not have time to date as the more money you make=more hours usually so they'll be a target for provider hunters and if they can't get those women their only hope is to use prostitutes or fuck off to some third world nation. Money will always be the least important factor for women's attractiveness to a man. Looks, Money Status should be replaced by Looks, Location, Game honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 04:16 AM
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"Drinks are expensive here, let's grab a drink or two at my place and then come back I only live a few minutes away" this is for the first half of the night mainly as an alternative you can use a compliance ladder for the second half of the night and on a date If there's a food place nearby use that as an excuse, buy some food near your place and take her back so you can "talk". If you're a uni student you can use halls and accommodation as an excuse by saying you wanna see a quick tour and acti…
/r/seduction29/07/22 03:13 AM
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Assuming the interaction will go well and if it doesn't its not the end of the world, you put a brick wall from any negative reactions and keep pushing Move the conversation forward Frame and subcommunications
/r/seduction28/07/22 10:52 PM
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My goal is to bang as many girls as possible before I graduate at 21 years old, atm I'm just a slayer who has two girls on rotation however I'm on a break due to catching an STI. After I reach 220-235 lays(depending on how intense 3rd yr is) I'll slow down significantly and see whether I want to go fully towards 500-600 lays post uni and then exit the game with a beautiful (ideally tall) girl as that's when I believe I'd have had my full of casual sex, become elite at game/a master PUA and fulfi…
/r/seduction28/07/22 09:48 PM
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Yes especially if you're going for afterparties and organising freshers events at uni, very very easy to run game and pull. Although i think where I'm from since we're appealing to the lowest common denominator type country girls between 18-35 i don't think its a dealbreaker imo. ​ How much volume can you run in online game where you're @? Also is there truly not a place in the suburbs where there's a near coffee or bar or you can't straight up invite her to your place? If you have bad logistics…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/22 08:30 PM
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The guy showed his gf on a TV news broadcast he's right that she's an engineer and that video of he and her arguing helped his case since it was him trying to get threesomes from his girl, also it is expected a girl should be pissed since he was cheating on her and hooking up with different girls behind her back, did you seriously expect her not to be pissed off? That's how I can tell you barely have any experience with women lmao. And it was a slap not a beating you may not like the dude but le…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/22 08:17 PM
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Big fan of John Anthony and I can't thank him enough for improving my game but I'd disagree with his roommates stance, this honestly depends on your age if you're a uni student for example many girls I've found do not mind at all if you bring her back to a uni house or flat since its expected. ​ But yes if you want to slay as efficiently as possible without any hassle it is common sense for you to live in the inner cities, you can still pull many many girls towards the burbs but you need to be a…
/r/TheRedPill28/07/22 07:30 PM
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So do I but where I’m from this is a very very common occurrence. Maybe it’s different where you’re @. But I’ll agree you get racial preselection with black girls whenever you are with a white girl especially if she’s at least a 7+ looks wise
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 09:18 AM
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It's not so they like men who treat them as disposable it's usually more to do with the fact that they don't really care about a mans character and morals as long as you hit the requirements they want in a man. Some men also are extremely calculating and exceptional at putting on masks/faking attractive personalities(a minority of men can do this I empathise), as a guy who is cluster B and does use manipulative tactics to influence women's behaviour to sleep with me along with some of my friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:36 PM
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Media and environment are two biggest factors for this, both black, mixed race and even non black/mixed race girls see the media/music videos of these guys living the high, fun life and having a lot of women and material possessions. What's crazy is that its not just women from shitholes/ghettos that are attracted even well to do black and some white women are attracted to these type of black guys. There's a video of some white girl who came from an extremely middle class background who became a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:50 PM
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It's actually very common in the UK yeah a certain type of black dude gets curved constantly by black women(even handsome black men get this also) and they only get interest when they're with a white/mixed race girl out of jealousy/racial preselection. One time, I matched with this 8/10 black girl, was loving the conversation and was displaying clear signs of attraction until I sent a voice note and said I sounded too much like a white guy and she stopped talking to me immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:14 AM
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Yes when you have street fights with a few women watch you especially if you're trained its as if you unlocked a primal lust in them completely battering another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 10:09 AM
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Yes they were either too logical, extremely passive cause they took the "women make it easy for you" as don't do anything at all, said dumb shit, low self-esteem, boring, having piss poor social skills/game. The only time they had gotten laid was with desperate showing off type women below them looks wise, any woman they'd approach on their level looks wise they'd fail miserably. However, they did get in the door but they were thrown out as fast as they got in. ​ Sometimes there's racial reasons…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:12 AM
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Treating dating as sales, particularly objection handling, compliance ladders/tests and concerns such as "I can't leave my friends" "I'm not that kind of girl" "How do I know you're not a murderer" etc. The importance of frame, moving things forward, and establishing yourself as a sexual authority in order for a woman to view you non platonically. All from men who've slept with hundreds of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 08:25 AM
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Yes I even forgot American women can’t even drink until 21 Jesus Christ lol. But yeah I think a balance of doing public and straight to the house dates is great. I don’t think personally anyone should discount one or the other as you said you’ll miss out on tons of opportunities.
/r/seduction17/07/22 05:42 AM
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This depends on your age and where you live imo, in certain age demographics most younger women like 18-22 uni girls especially are more down to meet up straight to your place as most guys our age don't have much going for them so they're very compromising in my experience. That doesn't mean they'll always close though. Some people don't see sex in general as a zero-sum game in certain environments unlike so much of most of North America so high or low quality isn't a factor where they first met…
/r/seduction17/07/22 05:38 AM
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If you're doing things correctly I'd say 55-70% of women of all attractiveness would be down to meet up straight to your place. It saves so much time and money as well. Then closing if you're a beginner 75% should close, intermediate to advanced 80-90%. Generally though the vast majority of women(75-90%) should close on the first date regardless if its at your place or a bar or coffee shop. If they give an objection/concern to meeting up straight to your place you can handle that but if not then…
/r/seduction17/07/22 04:54 AM
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Of course not it raises my attraction I have towards her, women who make me wait are a turn off but I don’t have to worry about that cause I bang 90% of my girls on the first date tbh and the rest I close on the second. To me it shows desire and my game was solid for me to bang her on the first date honestly, especially the ones who act reserved, relationship type girls and women who make exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:13 AM
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Based post, just the mere differences in the sex rates between gay men and lesbians demonstrate this. Also the experience of trans men when they get shot up with testosterone. The women who try and say otherwise just had low libido bfs and/or to put it harshly those men weren’t that attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 09:07 PM
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Asians in the UK in my experience do not have the negative stereotypes as much being weighed on them in regards to dating tbh, I think race and dating largely applies to the US especially since mixed race people are never ever considered. Asians where I'm from, my uni city and parts of the North of England have zero problems getting girls tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:44 AM
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Looksmaxx, learn game/seduction and run high volume, treat dating like sales and I’d even recommended applying sales methods onto women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 07:42 PM
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This completely destroys the misconception of "if she wanted to, she would" and "all girls make it easy for you if they like you" like as if women aren't passive lmao, you know that this is a skill game and when you follow your gut you succeed. Keep on doing what you're doing.
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:24 AM
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People who aren't neurotypical or generally socially awkward need a script at the beginning(depending on what neurodivergent condition they have). They need to be told step by step what they're doing is incorrect as they will have a blind spot because even if you have a person attracted initially you can lose it by suboptimal behaviour. Therapy does not address how to communicate behaviourally, especially in the context of hooking up and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:38 PM
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"Just be yourself" is not the same as me telling a guy work on looks, work on seduction skills. As just be yourself=never change or do anything about their situation. All men can do those things you mentioned and get extremely poor results. Communicating isn't just talking you can talk as long as you like but if you aren't making any form of sexual intent/moving the conversation forward it means nothing. Having hobbies doesn't mean anything also if you don't know how to approach flirt, have crip…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:34 PM
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There are PUAs that are legit and do call out scammers, do acknowledge looks, height and race mattering and they show results for their clients and themselves. I'm not sure from the tone of your post you want that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 07:08 AM
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I absolutely agree with this, best post I've seen in a while on here. I follow the same mindset and reasoning and your view on this also gets solidified when girls break rules for you on the first date but make other men wait and jump through hoops. I've never understood men who dislike girls who don't make them wait at all.
/r/seduction28/06/22 12:45 AM
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Yes of course, in fact the best guy I know with women is a very very run of the mill average looking white guy but is a natural who slept with 1-2 women a week before he coupled up and settled with his girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 08:01 PM
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You live in la la land and delusion, what’s next? Tell men to never approach women if it’s in their conscious thought and wait for women to approach since “it’s not natural” to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:10 PM
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Would you tell someone not to improve their health and finance because they should just get it and they should already be naturally gifted fitness wise? So are you an elitist who prefers men who were born into wealth and never ever worked hard/ were gifted everything to them? Are those who worked hard to become rich lesser in your eyes? Because that’s what you’re saying to men who had to try and become great at dating women? Everyone(including yourself) has a method you just don’t think about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:05 PM
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just being yourself If just be yourself actually worked then the guy wouldn't need advice, you have to change something about yourself if you want to improve your love life. You're completely out of touch and delusional. What's so wrong about making yourself more attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:44 AM
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“Romance really is just natural” false you can systematically analyse human behaviour including in the dating world and then respond accordingly based off archetypes. Everyone has a strategy it’s that most mens are hot garbage and ineffective. Even a simple “what do I say to introduce myself to him/her” is a strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 01:29 AM
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Women are good at sensing if it's fake or authentic. This isn't true at all coming from someone and who knows men who have a cluster B personality disorder (mainly narcissistic and antisocial personality disorder) who can fake absolutely everything about them, mirror and wear masks to navigate interacting with women and are extremely successful because of how charismatic and charming they come across. The only time they can "sense" it is if the dude makes it obvious/not a good actor and this isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 07:19 PM
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Pickup Artist here who has also looksmaxxed and gymmaxxed and is 5"9 and black for context. I do not wait for any IOIs as it is a limiting belief and flawed I just approach women who I find attractive which is usually a direct approach and go from there. After the opener, I transition and start vibing, flirting and use sales/game/PUA techniques from then on. After 5 minutes or so I isolate the since nightclubs are really loud in the UK and my voice is extremely deep I use that as an excuse to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 08:10 PM
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That’s under the assumption that they don’t have any stories or conversation threads of value. Plus I don’t really get how you can lie about moving things forward and escalating? All of that I mentioned is part of the fundamentals of seduction and should be mandatory to know and implement in the vast majority of your interactions in order to amplify the attraction she has for you already.
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:42 AM
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Moving things forward through physical and sexual escalation compliance ladders and tests yes ladders demonstration of higher value through actions and stories building sexual tension strong body language, vocal inflexions and tonality conversation threads to go by frame open and closed hoops qualifying and teasing establishing myself as an authority, especially a sexual one
/r/seduction24/06/22 04:21 AM
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Women don't make "good men wait" they make average looking men wait. It's really just about physical appearance and nothing else. Tbh its only average guys with zero natural game/have a platonic nonchalant frame about them that women make wait. If you have any charm, charisma, or game then you can and should be sleeping with women ASAP even if you are average looking. Plus there are cases of Chad/Tyronelite, Chad and Tyrone blowing it with women even when they pass the looks threshold I've heard…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:16 AM
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Chadriquez and Chaddam is hilarious omds hahahahaha where do they come up with these names
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:28 AM
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That makes a LOT more sense, especially the topics that are talked about here referring to Chad, the average guy, and clapped men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 10:00 PM
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Should be on the sidebar about what a Chad is and photos of these men if we're going by my interpretation lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:36 PM
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Same it'll be a lot easier navigating their terms and honestly they also need to divide it by race and ethnicity if they haven't done so already
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:39 PM
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There's skinny Chad who he doesn't lift or heard of a dumbell in his life but has a lovely face so he's doing extremely well with women, they can range from hipster/alternative to model skinny Chad. There's jacked gymbro Chad if he's British and young he's in one of the major uni societies usually Rugby or if he's not at uni he can be a raver boy with a tan, turkey teeth and a few tattoos and/or a major seshhead if American most likely he'd be the stereotypical jock in high school and be in a fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:34 PM
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From my interpretation it’s a good looking (usually)white guy who from their appearance alone is a slayer and doesn’t need to do or say anything major to bang tons of women and has pretty privilege on his side so there’s no lack of external validation from these types of men. There’s different archetypes of Chad. Ranging from an 8-10/10 in looks. According to this sub they’re everywhere and a common occurrence to the point of men on here make outlandish claims that only they can bang loads of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 05:17 PM
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Lol its not a common scenario if you are doing the most optimal moves but you should be aware of it when it happens. Plus what you do after is just one step forward two steps back. I just have an issue with people who insist women never do this and they don't want you to do anything afterward and the idea there's no such thing about women being worried about being seen as a slag and therefore you can say and do whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 01:03 PM
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they say no a couple of times because they dont want to appear sluts but eventualy they will go for it and her exact words were "why did u think that i invited you to spend the night ? " If I've ever seen a better justification/reasoning on why men should learn game. That's her explaining LMR, plausible deniability, and anti slut defence lmao, yet apparently, this never happens and is seen as demeaning "manipulative" and misogyny when explained.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 12:43 PM
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I also believe they've been with men with below average to incredibly low T levels. They seriously underestimate the power of testosterone on libido. It would have to take them being injected with testosterone etc for them to realise. If these women had the same sex drives as us we'd be seeing far more empathy and sympathy towards the male sex drive and horniness. You wouldn't be seeing nonsense like "men only want sex" or "why do men only want one thing/sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 12:38 AM
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Super based, I'm convinced it's just individual women extrapolating their own personal sex drive and applying it to the rest of their gender and to men. Or they have an agenda in trying to convince everyone that men and women are exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:46 PM
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Same principle applies
/r/seduction15/06/22 10:30 AM
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Obviously, your looks, no amount of money will make a woman wet in the purest sense.
/r/seduction14/06/22 02:01 PM
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Yes I have quite a fair bit at times, both on online dating masquerading as an "open relationship" and in nightclubs. A lot of girls cheat during fresher's week when first starting uni. I just see it as a "it is what it is" situation and its not my relationship so therefore not my problem. So I have zero regrets and remorse for the bfs in question. In most of the situations, they told me and were resistant but I was persistent and ran game on them. I would say if you're going after taken women p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 01:02 PM
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Stop listening and caring so much about neurotic women who can't even order a Domino's Pizza without stuttering. Just ignore them and so as long as you are socially calibrated/running proper strategy and tactics doing cold approach you should be fine. And also just because they're taken whose to say you can't pull those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 08:37 PM
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Such nonsense I don't even know where to begin with this. Sounds similar to the feminist narrative that women and men are the same in this regard or when masculine women think their drive is the norm. Just look up trans men and women and how they experience arousal and attraction pre and post-transition it's a night and day difference tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:02 AM
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Most overrated PUA by far, his laycount isn't even that high given how long he's been in seduction makes game far more complicated than it needs to be, never focuses on the fundamentals, feminine and beta mannerisms and lies about the quality of women he gets. I and a few of my friends would run rings around him in nightgame. At best he's an intermediate.
/r/seduction07/06/22 05:01 PM
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Age 20 High for me based around my social circle(except for my friends of slayers and fuckboys) and average person my age I would say above 20
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 06:17 PM
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A 7/10 for my tastes Same answer as number 1 7.5/10 I'm a black Chadlite(dunno if there's a name for it) after going to the gym, beforehand I was a 6/10 but was a natural I've had incredible amounts of success for my age at both cold approach and online game I'm at 150 lays and always have done largely due to running solid game
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 09:28 PM
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Underestimating how a man's behaviour can cause a woman to lose or amplify attraction towards you Underestimating game and its importance Money is by far the least important and most overrated attribute in what women want in a man in terms of pure desire. You're more likely to be more sexually successful broke as fuck than earning six figures due to you having more free time tbh. Which will lead to my 5th point. Average looking men can and do have a very high laycount (200+) its not just good lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 05:38 PM
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A lot of the advice is way too beginner level and common sense. You see the same talking points repeated just by a different username lol. It’s like men on here like to complicate their lives and justify why. But definitely one of the worst advices I see on here constantly is “texting for logistics only” (yeah if you’re talking to old grannies maybe) and “don’t go out to the club with the intention of getting pussy”, this is terrible for those wanting to start out and improve. And of course the …
/r/seduction29/01/22 01:38 PM
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Kind of agree, the fundamentals of game remain the same but the guys gotta be aware of different cultural nuances. I’m black but it was white PUAs who helped me the most (and the most legit) and acknowledged all perceived advantages and disadvantages and they have clients of all races getting decent to exceptional results. As long there’s self awareness it’s fine. Irregardless of the guy no man should be taking advice from a white guy that lives in Thailand lol huge red flag
/r/seduction29/01/22 06:38 AM
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No problem I’ve found that girls in my experience usually want a 3-6 inch difference tbh. Just work on your game and levelling up on other areas in your life my guy
/r/seduction29/01/22 06:34 AM
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5”9 guy with a triple digit laycount here, it doesn’t really matter as much as you think. I’ve never found it to be an issue with girls if I’m being honest. There’s plenty of girls that won’t care or will prefer you.
/r/seduction29/01/22 06:32 AM
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Follow the 3 second rule Be realistic about your expectations as it’s a numbers game, you cannot win every girl no matter what you to or say. Emotional resilience is key. See yourself as 100/100 and don’t let external events affect your confidence, put a mental wall between you and any negative comments or reactions and move onto the next one. Drop your ego as that’s the main cause of your AA
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:27 PM
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My close rate is around 11% including online game numbers Pure cold approach it’s around 10% meaning if I approach 200 girls my lay count will go up by 20. This is the best of the best in terms of results with closing as the top guys in the game have a similar percentage. It’s advanced game numbers but if you’re plugged into an efficient strategy you can be easily putting out numbers like this even as a beginner.
/r/seduction13/01/22 04:06 PM
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Total scammers who want cult followings, intend to keep you on a hamster wheel and indirectly caused the blackpill/incel movement amongst other PUA charlatans along with teaching atrocious game and woo woo nonensene. Just show RSD Tyler for example to women in your life and your friends who are good with women and they'll clown him but in this brainwashed community he's seen as good at game lmao. No legitimate company would sell 30+ products to approach women lmfao.
/r/seduction07/01/22 01:58 AM
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Yeah sure I don’t mind
/r/seduction05/01/22 03:55 PM
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Facepalm, dude you should have escalated towards sex and now she's backwards rationalising why that didn't happen hence the cold responses. Next time don't be afraid and go for sex as fast as possible, in which in most cases will be the first date.
/r/seduction04/01/22 08:27 PM
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They're basically saying they're not physically attracted to you and you're a pussy because you're not being sexual enough/moving things forward and making the other right moves. Also could be the case of your choice of women as well
/r/seduction31/12/21 08:30 PM
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I'm 20, a uni student and rely on my student finance lol nothing on my online dating profiles indicate wealth or a job position. There's plenty of men out there especially at a young age that a broke and unemployed yet get a decent to great amount of pussy. No woman in my age bracket asks about my job or income. You should demonstrate higher value yes but you can do that by conveying your personality and doing activity photos. Once you have that in the bag moving things forward and making the co…
/r/seduction30/12/21 10:50 AM
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“Never double text”/“play the cool guy” is a stupid rule and made up by insecure men who rather put their ego over getting pussy. Especially true for online dating you strike when the iron is hot. “It’s just a numbers game bro just approach and take massive action”- This is far too simplified and this is terrible advice for a AFC beta and other hardcases, without a proper strategy which is correct, efficient and optimised you shouldn’t even be doing approaches. It can actually be a negative as y…
/r/seduction30/12/21 10:33 AM
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Tinder is somewhat pay to win but to say that you have to be tall is a massive limiting belief. I’m 5”8/5”9 ish and I know a few other guys who follow the same strategy as me who are similar in height and do moderately to extremely well in online game. It helps for sure but it’s not the be all and end all. Just make an account as a girl and you’ll see what I’m talking about with the quality of profiles, it’s horrendous to witness how poor men are at marketing themselves on dating apps. Irl appro…
/r/seduction29/12/21 11:07 AM
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before gym (I was still successful with women just a natural): 5.5-6/10 after gym: 7-7.5/10
/r/seduction27/12/21 06:44 PM
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LOL I can bet my life this guy's profile and texting is below average at best, atrocious at worst. Any guy who hooks up with a girl off OLD really should ask them to see the messages and profiles off their matches, it's eye opening how dogshit and bland these guys' pictures are on there and their texting. Then you'll understand why women are picky. Majority of men fail on OLD because they don't know how to optimise online game properly and efficiently.
/r/seduction27/12/21 01:40 PM
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Since you're a northerner the girls there would be more friendly and receptive to your approach tbf, granted that you're presenting your best self both in looks and behaviour.
/r/seduction27/12/21 01:35 PM
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20M before discovering "formal game" around 25/yr This year I've slept with 50+ girls this year with the majority coming in the last 6 months. Next year I'm aiming for my new years resolution to hit 100+ lays in a year and continue that stretch until I hit 400-500 lays in my mid to late 20s.
/r/seduction27/12/21 01:28 PM
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It's pretty easy getting a girls socials though at uni, even when you state your intent because that's what every guy does. I take issue with the fact that there are guys on here(one in particular) who just portrays British people in nightclubs as being anti-social retards when it's just him having a shit personality and not being able to hold a convo. This is especially false at uni events like freshers where everyone's chatty and that. Cold approaching in a nightclub the vast majority of women…
/r/seduction24/12/21 10:31 AM
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1000% sick of these retards with zero game, stick to their own specific bubble and don't travel much or who sit in their parents home all day telling people exaggerated to downright false claims about British women as a whole. Game is game at the end of the day you calibrate after not before. It's a complete cope to justify their lack of game. The most hilarious one being is daygame never works outside London and people in general not wanting to socialise in nightclubs which is BS. Maybe it's yo…
/r/seduction22/12/21 06:27 AM
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If you want your bodycount to skyrocket to obscene amounts or get your dream gf and sort out your dating life for good so you won't need any advice again go on YT and watch John Anthony, Playing with fire, Honest Signalz and Coach Kyle in that order. They're the main guys that helped me when I was in a dry spell when I was looking for advice on lead management, more consistent lays, rotations, online game and objection handling in clubs, texting and dates. For books and this ain't a dating one b…
/r/seduction12/12/21 07:40 PM
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Some atrocious advice in the comments here fucking hell. Respond with “Ah 2021, where the likes are responses” don’t be one of those guys that believes in “never double texting bro” or “make her chase” they’re just ego driven, entitled and insecure. Always be persistent with the girls you’re interested in, if it’s more than a day since she liked it send my response.
/r/seduction12/12/21 06:18 PM
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Yeah cause you still need a strategy when approaching women you are attracted to lol
/r/seduction10/12/21 06:24 PM
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Yes contrary to popular belief on tinder hinge bumble and this new app called 3fun if you set up your bio correctly and screen you can get girls to come to your place. If they have a concern or objection over text for it then I just meet them in public as I don’t want to fuck up the opportunity for sex.
/r/seduction10/12/21 04:45 PM
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From the UK here, I do dates straight to the house majority of the time or I go to this coffee shop where it’s open until like 8pm as an evening date. Basically keep it simple and don’t do anything that puts pressure on the girl such as a dinner date. You only do that 3-5 dates in after you’ve had sex.
/r/seduction09/12/21 04:37 PM
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This is a fantastic advertisement of DHVs(demonstration of higher value) and preselection actually working, being a legitimate technique and how powerful it is when done right. Amazing how some people think girls don’t care about that or that it doesn’t work lmao.
/r/seduction09/12/21 05:46 AM
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The “never double texting” rule and the “make her chase” nonsense, reality is as a man you have to be aggressive in getting your leads out to dates and hookups as it’s on you to take the lead. The double text rule was made up by insecure guys who were afraid to lose the woman they like and to protect their own ego IMO.
/r/seduction09/12/21 05:44 AM
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No more than 3 screenshots at the most until I go for the soft close and the hard close which is going for her number.
/r/seduction07/12/21 04:38 PM
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I’m from the UK
/r/seduction05/12/21 01:55 PM
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Lmao is this what American unis are like in regards to hookup culture? Fam just do what you want in terms of approaching the women you like(within reason obviously). You don’t need any rules Uni girls is game 101 you just need to follow fundamentals that’s it.
/r/seduction03/12/21 05:46 PM
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Solid FR especially on the focus on the birthday girl very intuitive to get her to isolate and then doing compliance all the way through.
/r/seduction02/12/21 02:34 PM
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No you should never ever lead with money, yes be financially stable but don't be one of those men that rely on money to get 8s, 9s and 10s. That's a big no no and you'll be fleeced ruthlessly. Just look at the Bezos and Di Caprio situation. A man of substance is a high value man who has shit going for him, so he's interesting, charismatic, is purposeful etc. You need solid seduction skills to bed them first but to retain them you've got to be a man worth something. Also, girls who are convention…
/r/seduction27/11/21 08:26 PM
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Run very solid game and actually be a man of substance in regards to what you bring towards the table if you wanna retain them.
/r/seduction27/11/21 12:27 PM
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So I’m one of the cases where I was a natural but I still transitioned into a PUA for more consistency and better lead management. However I say a big reason to why I was naturally good with women is definitely definitely strong male masculine role models especially my father, uncle and my Judo sensei. They basically gave me the direction and foundation to be grounded and confident and thus translated into my success with girls at school and becoming popular with people at school and university.
/r/seduction26/11/21 10:02 PM
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Hahahahaha this is the funniest Reddit post I’ve read in awhile what a mess 😭😭
/r/seduction26/11/21 01:33 PM
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It’s very very important as you want to establish a man to woman frame. I agree with you that sub communications and body language can trump verbal sexual escalation.
/r/seduction24/11/21 11:55 AM
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I’m 20 and I always always go for the phone number, majority of cases girls will snapzone you and just categorise you as one of her orbiters. It’s a better return of investment you go for the phone number because there’s significant less competition. Especially if you’re in dating apps. Majority of women will give you their number if you do the right things
/r/seduction23/11/21 10:51 AM
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Yeah from a guy who was already a natural to me watching about 80% of the PUAs I've seen are clowns and frauds with zero game who actually don't want to teach guys how to be successful with women. They're just sleazy salesmen who intentionally leave guys overwhelmed and confused in order to upsell more products hence why so many guys come back to them(hint: if they were doing their job you wouldn't need ANY of their help anymore as you would supposedly have the right tools to approach women nor …
/r/seduction19/11/21 05:24 PM
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Go for the phone number not snapchat first and foremost, you'll stand out compared to the other sea of orbiters spamming girls' snaphchats like a retard. In text game you follow these fundamental steps; Opener-Building investment/vibing-qualification-soft close-hard close-confirming the date. Type in playing with fire on Youtube for further analysis on text game and you'll be a slayer in the online game
/r/seduction19/11/21 11:32 AM
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Guy with a 96 laycount, it depends on the person but for me personally I’m not really monogamous anymore. I’m definitely going to be having one way open relationships. What happened to me is that the more bodies I’ve gotten the less attachment and incentive I have to be in an LTR. For me I kind of having the “wandering eye” so to speak therefore in the likelihood I’m monogamous I’d have to kill off parts of my identity so I won’t cheat.
/r/seduction15/11/21 03:46 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/qam79c/guys_who_have_slept_with_100_women_whats_your/hh8uryy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 this is from a previous comment but this is the basis of my text game. Follow this and you’ll see a noticeable difference in results Type in playing with fire on YouTube and watch all of his text game breakdowns and you’ll see results
/r/seduction21/10/21 04:08 PM
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I don’t use POF but that’s a shit test+ you’ve made a mistake like most men do by thinking women say what they mean. Ignore that and still go for the house date if you’ve built investment from the girl. Also aren’t you on tinder, hinge and bumble?
/r/seduction21/10/21 03:50 PM
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Since we’re from the same country and we might be similar age the girls we approach will be naturally standoffish, cold and rude to a certain extent. Being persistent is a must for these girls because the vast majority of your interactions they’ll be neutral towards you and sometimes they might be rude because they’ve had other guys constantly doing nice guy approaches and so in that case it’s a shit test. Problem with new guys and even some experienced guys is that they immediately take her bei…
/r/seduction21/10/21 03:44 PM
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Yeah it’s either your bio and text game, you should be setting the vast majority of your dates straight to your place for the best logistics and chance for sex.
/r/seduction21/10/21 03:37 PM
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Which country are you from? Where are you meeting these women? Limiting belief, around 70-75% of women should be down to come straight to your house for a first date if you're running good text game, especially if you're a uni student and you do online dating. If she gives a safety objection then you meet at your local bar or coffee shop.
/r/seduction20/10/21 05:02 PM
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Before you go in the approach you should always go in at 100/100 and assume attraction, don't second guess yourself until it's obvious that she's being very noncompliant. Moreover, think of every action you do towards the girl as compliance, the biggest one being physical touch. They should start small and then become bigger and bigger over time. When I have noncompliance I give an indicator of disinterest off my facial expression or I'd say something like "someone's being a little uptight". Wha…
/r/seduction20/10/21 04:55 PM
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Just do a date straight to the house or go to the nearest coffee shop or bar in your area.
/r/seduction20/10/21 04:15 PM
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No problem, yeah those guys who just say "approach bro its a numbers game" you should take their advice with a pinch of salt at best, they're not wrong it's just that for beginners and men who are terrible with women there needs to be more detail and structure when speaking to women.
/r/seduction20/10/21 04:08 PM
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Do you want me to use nightgame, a date I met from online dating or a girl during daygame as an example?
/r/seduction20/10/21 04:05 PM
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u/kpopdj1999 I saw your reply in my notifications but I think you're banned/suspended off here? Anyways no I'm not speaking about you, you're definitely legit and knows what he's talking about don't worry lol.
/r/seduction20/10/21 04:03 PM
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I wonder how much he charges lol, he should've at least shown his face and had some infields on a small YT channel or something to justify his reasoning for charging those for advice.
/r/seduction20/10/21 04:00 PM
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The opener is just to approach the girl, you don't really need anything fancy or gimmicky, it makes you very weird if you have some of these pickup line style openers and say it to a girl. What's more important is vibing/flirting, escalating and seeding the pull.
/r/seduction20/10/21 03:58 PM
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Building investment/vibing is how much a girl puts in effort to respond to you, you're able to do this by simply asking questions relevant to her or in some cases, a girl(especially on Hinge and Bumble) can open you based on your bio and prompts and then you build from there. So to build investment there's nothing wrong with a bit of small talk and then come up with a smooth line for instance: "How goes thy Wednesday?" she responds and would usually ask you the same I respond with "Awesome. Just…
/r/seduction20/10/21 03:56 PM
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Oh shit I’ve just taken a look at the comments of that post. Thanks for letting me know. I agree with him on the fundamentals and how much he emphasises them. Oh yeah that’s obviously an exaggeration unless he’s some retired millionaire who just spends his days spam approaching and then comes back on Reddit to comment. A normal guy who does pickup as a hobby simply wouldn’t have that much time due to school, family commitments, spending time with friends and work.
/r/seduction19/10/21 05:58 PM
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Wait for real? Tbf he does write like some internet marketer most of the time but from certain posts and comments I've seen he does give good to very good advice to new guys especially. That's a massive shame that he's trying to use his comments just to make a quick buck, I'd hope nobody on reddit would just blindly buy his coaching or course.
/r/seduction19/10/21 05:39 PM
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These are the guys from YouTube that I got the best results from in order and I combine Playing with fire as I am a predominately online gamer(if that's a term lol) he's the best at this by a country mile, most underrated yet one of the elite PUAs online I'm shocked he's never recommended on here but a guys like Todd V and RSD are lmao. Without him my texting would not be as refined, dominant and direct as him. If I had never discovered him I would be one of those guys that just think all you ne…
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:53 PM
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Yeah and the best part for setting a date straight to the house is that there’s no debate on who pays and you save so much money. Awesome, the posts what I’ve seen from you you’re definitely legit and knows what he’s talking about in regards to OLD and meeting up with girls.
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:37 PM
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Yes a limiting belief most men have is that most girls will not be down to meeting at the house, in my case I have a specific type of bio that screens out and encourages a certain type of girl to match with me. I’d say 70-75% of girls will meet with you straight to the house. However if they don’t want to meet I just go to the local bar and/or coffee shop for the date, which is literally two minutes away from my place which makes for perfect logistics. So in that instance it’s a win win.
/r/seduction19/10/21 04:32 PM
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My text game is based on these steps on a macro level and inspired by mostly one guy on YT and his website and forum although sometimes I use two other guys just for minor stuff: The opener- I base my opener on commenting on something unique and observational on a girls pictures, this is to make me stand out as majority of OLD and the guys that message her either only comment on her bio, either use gamey/pick up liney shit or are extremely boring. If I can't think of an opener in 30s I have my g…
/r/seduction19/10/21 03:54 PM
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Most of the stuff that PUAs talk about I already knew naturally but I'll summarise what helped me the most in game. I'd say the biggest thing that game has helped me with is smashing limiting beliefs. For example I used to be the type of guy that believed you set up a first date only to know each other and then the second date you initiate towards sex and also girls will not come straight to the house for a first date. The reality is the VAST majority of women will come to your house for a first…
/r/seduction19/10/21 03:19 PM
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I’m 20 but my body count is nearing 100(92 to be precise) my situation is a bit unique because I was a natural at school and I was a popular kid so I used social circles to my advantage on top of standing out because the rest of the guys were deathly afraid of women. At uni I’m into the nightclub and bar scene and I did get results it was too hit and miss as I was making some technical errors such as not testing for compliance, no isolation and objection handling. In regards to OLD I had initial…
/r/seduction18/10/21 06:21 PM
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Happy to help :)
/r/seduction16/10/21 10:19 PM
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Hit the nail on the head, finally another guy who knows his shit on this sub lol. If she sees you as a provider take it as an offence not a compliment. Always have a frame of a fuckboy for the best results.
/r/seduction16/10/21 09:50 PM
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You’re boyfriend material not player/fuckboy material, that combined with her leading you on has made your prospects with her as a death sentence. You came off as too beta in her mind unfortunately. Next time state intent more clearly, break the physical barrier immediately, be more polarising and sexual etc when approaching women. If you cannot pull in nightgame you set the date right there and then using the yes ladder compliance technique
/r/seduction16/10/21 09:43 PM
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No problem my guy, let me know how it goes
/r/seduction16/10/21 08:21 PM
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If you’re doing it over text I use these two lines, the main point of these messages is to be direct, honest and firm. The first one is for a FB/FWB I’ve been seeing awhile which was inspired by killyourinnerloser(awesome website and guide) “Hey, I’d like us to stop seeing each other. You didn’t do anything wrong, I had a lot of fun with you. I’m just not feeling the chemistry anymore. I’m really glad we met and I wish you all the best” Or the second line I use when I’ve shagged a girl once or t…
/r/seduction16/10/21 05:54 PM
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These are the guys who I personally got the best results by listening to their advice and got me a rotation of 3-4 girls minimum and a sky high laycount. For daygame and nightgame Honest signalz, Bradicus(before he got his channel shut down), AG Hayden, Coach Kyle, John Anthony, Gabriel Grey, Ciel from Chen City and Markus Wolff are the best PUAs with the most proof and practical no BS and actionable advice if you don’t want theory woo woo nonsense from RSD scammers and cringe Todd V who intenti…
/r/seduction14/10/21 03:41 PM
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They’re not mutually exclusive you can have both. Also how does this help us in anyway to attract and approach women? Just another useless vague bluepilled advice that doesn’t serve anything.
/r/seduction13/10/21 07:39 PM
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Out of 10 women who gave you your number for example, only one will sleep with you if your game is extremely solid. For beginners it’ll be about 1 in 15-20 if they’re listening to the right information. This includes women who you got their number in all scenarios eg neutral response and high IOIs.
/r/seduction11/10/21 03:34 PM
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1 in 10 in the western world should be the correct ratio for sleeping with women(I’m including women off OLD also), the guys(about 5-6 PUAs) who say similar are the ones who you should be emulating their game off. Whoever says 80-90 approaches to 1 lay needs to improve their game and/or looks because that’s shocking numbers.
/r/seduction10/10/21 04:56 PM
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The top guys on YT are around 120-600+ body count. So Playing with fire(500+), JMULV (1.4k), Bradicus(600+), Mystery(350+) Coach Kyle(120) etc but the best guys at game(with exceptions) are underground in the community not on YouTube
/r/seduction10/10/21 04:19 PM
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I agree Coach Kyle is more inner game and looksmaxxing then combining outer game. RSD Tyler is the biggest fraud out of the RSD shitshow who will come out as a homosexual in the near future, he fakes his infields and manipulates impressionable guys to buy his scam courses using high pressure sales tactics and has been exposed by former those who have seen him in action. Say what you want, but JMULV has a massive number of receipts and has a legitimately high laycount. There's simply too much evi…
/r/seduction09/10/21 10:33 PM
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Nah you don't because I am right that's why you're arguing like a woman now "you're not worth my time" lmao. Who's the one that came onto my comment? Who's the one that's always replying? Me being a very fast typer on my phone and spacing it out is not "investment" I just have a huge stream of consciousness that's all and you spout BS unless you're some boomer with arthritis. One question. What's your lifetime laycount? Any dodging of the question or if it's low will tell me everything. Don't wo…
/r/seduction07/10/21 10:01 PM
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Yeah you’re right the men and women from the areas we went to were taller than average. However my dates did range from 5”2-5”7, with solid photos, a specific bio and running text game it was pretty easy to go on dates. They didn’t mention my height so I never found it an issue personally. Plus theres barely any flaking compared to British girls.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:49 PM
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In terms of attractiveness my physique compared to others my age is 8/10 I am jacked. Face wise I’d say I’m a 6.5/10 although before OLD and knowing PUA fully I was a natural at secondary school and at sixth form when I was skinny.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:45 PM
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Decent text game, I’d have gotten rid of the “I think” part just to show that you’ve got confidence and you’re firm. From her last response I’d have hinted at meeting up for a date and setting it up as fast as possible. But bearing in mind that I’ll be used as a rebound dick to this girl. If you want anything further with this girl then I would re engage in a non butthurt way ie “or maybe not” for example if not I’d move on to the next girl.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:40 PM
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5”9 but I wear shoes that boost up my height to 5”10 and I say I’m the latter on hinge and bumble.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:34 PM
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Yeah me and my mate( mixed race) went to Warsaw for 5 weeks in the summer and it’s basically the closest equivalent to how Thailand is for white guys. I got about 47-50 matches a day over there where I get around 20-23 matches a day on Tinder where I live in the UK and out of those matches from week 2 I shagged two girls per week by setting up loads of dates.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:27 PM
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Yeah this is pretty much a dead end my guy. If I were you in that situation I’d have done some flirting and stating some intent, especially as you admitted she gave you her number. You’ve come across as too platonic in the IRL conversation and text imo she’s looking for a rebound. Had you been flirty and whatnot the it would be a different story. How many days did you last send the message bro? If it’s 2 days or so re engage her again with a double text.
/r/seduction07/10/21 04:15 PM
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It really depends on your location for the average black guy. I personally haven’t struggled with women of all races even though I go to university in a city where we make up about 2% of the population. Generally the more multiracial the area, the better prospects you have if you are in a predominantly white area it’s not impossible but if you’re just an average Joe then you’ll often lose out to an average white guy. However exceptions do apply for example in Poland we do very very well on OLD b…
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:56 PM
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What’s the context of the situation?
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:52 PM
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Nah I just type very quickly which just ends up being a massive essay. Yeah because you have zero counter arguments to what I’m saying lol (hence why you ain’t said anything about Pickup Alpha since because you know I’m right+ the importance of laycount) and you are not seeing this from a rational standpoint. Don’t be condescending and having a superiority complex because your whole worldview is shattered then. Hang on, so Todd V who has been caught faking infields by paid actresses, constantly …
/r/seduction07/10/21 03:03 PM
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I meant as in watch his pickup videos not his roasts(which are fully deserved btw). Unless you just want to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing. LMAO there's countless of testimonies of RSD on here and on YouTube of them doing unethical practices it's not just John, them admitting they have a 1% student success rate and you're telling me they're a legit company? HAHAHA from Spencer Cornelia to former RSD employees including your idol Todd V have all bashed that dogshit company. John Elite …
/r/seduction07/10/21 12:53 AM
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Seriously? The bloke does infield QnA breakdowns and has shown proof of his women in great detail over on YT and Instagram lol you just skimmed over his channel. Meanwhile that fraud you're banging on about doesn't even like to approach girls LMAO and would rather play video games who claims 100% lay rate in his programmes. When he does want to he only relies of looks, great "game" right there. So you have basically agreed with the premise of JMULVs game but for some reason, you want to argue ot…
/r/seduction06/10/21 11:38 PM
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Yeah man it’s the blind leading the blind. On here it’s guys that have little experience with women getting the most upvotes and on YT it’s just feel good theoretical stuff rather than practical and actionable stuff. Simple opener, good vocal tonality, good body language and always having the goal of pulling a girl by physicality and escalation you’re interested in is all you need on top of good text game for OLD. Although the “just be yourself” advice I’d readjust to “be the best version of you…
/r/seduction06/10/21 10:02 PM
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Yeah unfortunately a lot of PUAs and dating coaches deliberately confuse people in order to upsell their products and also use their charisma to hide the fact that they get lacklustre results. If you do majority of the openers you see on their channels and on here you’ll get weird and negative reactions from girls. The simpler the better :).
/r/seduction06/10/21 09:53 PM
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Yes, game does not have to be complicated contrary to popular belief. The opener I use as well can be adjusted in certain social situations. For example in a nightclub if she’s with her friends and talking I address her friends first and then use a similar opener to what I’ve used. After you open you should always get her logistical situation and then you can gauge whether you can pull on a nightgame interaction, instadate if it’s daygame or it’s better to set up a date there and then and get he…
/r/seduction06/10/21 09:49 PM
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The opener doesn't really matter so as long as you state your intent if you have greater social calibration you do not need to say the second sentence as your intent will show through subcommunication and the opener shouldn't be fancy or gamey. What matters is the conversation after the opener especially flirting and escalation.
/r/seduction06/10/21 09:44 PM
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Vast majority of his lays were from the US as you can see from his YT channel himself and has numerous testimonials on his channel. On his old Insta he was constantly showing proof after proof he slays. But keep on coping and following the hamster wheel of Todd V and other clowns thinking you’ll get anywhere with his over complicated system in the long term and crying over how online game is bad for you lmao. Didn’t know opening-isolating-escalating-pulling wasn’t considered game lmao. Funny how…
/r/seduction06/10/21 07:20 PM
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Maximise your looks, fashion and grooming. Combine all this by learning game from legit sources and optimising as many sources as possible to meet women through nightgame, daygame and online game. Easiest route is online dating if you follow the right steps and setting up a fuck date straight to the house. As a virgin you should make it as easy as possible to lead to sex and don’t handicap yourself with limiting beliefs. Good luck👍🏾.
/r/seduction06/10/21 05:56 PM
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I advocate for direct openers all the time to reduce the probability of being put in the provider role. So one you can say if you’re a beginner and struggle to state intent is “Hey can I meet you real quick? You’re just my type I’m X” then shake her hand to break the physical barrier.
/r/seduction06/10/21 08:48 AM
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Nah like I’ve said to the previous guy I have personally used his compliance, DHVs, false time constraints and non compliance model in both texting and in person approaching and they’ve worked extremely well on top of objection handling which the majority of no clue on how to deal with them and he was spot on in the ones that do come up as I’ve had 7 consistently come up when interacting with women which I’ve handled successfully. The best game does not have to be flashy or gimmicky it really is…
/r/seduction06/10/21 07:49 AM
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Right quick look at that Pickup alpha fella and there’s two very detailed exposed videos and comment on him being a fraud by former student of his on Reddit. This sub really is the blind leading the blind lmao.
/r/seduction06/10/21 04:04 AM
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Nah JMULV is legit, I’ve used his objection handling and testing for compliance which he says will always come up which has happened to me whenever I’m doing nightgame and dates as the majority of your interactions with women are not a straight line and you need to know how to deal with them, isolation techniques, DHVs and decision closing as he’s spot on for setting up a date there and then rather than building it all up again and for texting his text game combined with PWF is phenomenal for OL…
/r/seduction06/10/21 03:33 AM
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HonestSignalz, Bradicus(before he was purged) Coach Kyle, AG hayden, and John Anthony I'd recommend for cold approach. For OLD Playing With Fire is the best guy there is.
/r/seduction06/10/21 01:08 AM
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Hang on you think RSD Tyler who has been exposed numerous times has more game than Coach Kyle, Mystery and John Anthony 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Yeah you’re definitely one of those RAD fanboys whose upset he roasted your idol.
/r/seduction05/10/21 03:20 PM
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Well no his text game is especially exceptional and I’ve increased my date rate percentage using his texting sequences. Furthermore his compliance and non compliance model and isolation techniques work really well in nightgame as I have actually tried this and worked as many numbers as possible.
/r/seduction05/10/21 03:18 PM
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Lol someone who hasn’t watched nor understands John Anthony’s game and/or thinks the best game has to be flashy.
/r/seduction25/09/21 04:34 PM
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Don’t listen to some of these people who have never seen and touched a vagina in their life. Just playfully admit it to her post sex and from then you can talk about each other’s sexual experiences. Come off a non judgemental frame and you’ll be fine.
/r/seduction17/09/21 01:11 PM
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100% agree, the guys that say this constantly use it as a cope for their lack of game and communication skills with women so they give this cliched advice.
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