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3

Are you asking why men should have equivalent legal protections and preferably public spending? If you need to ask, if the default isn't "yeah, men and women should be equal," that sounds kind of bigoted to me.
/r/MensRights07/11/14 09:56 PM
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The biggest thing that I'd hope to see is less single-parent households. If both partners have access to long-term, effective birth control (and I believe Vasagel has the added benefit of being pretty inexpensive), then both parents have to be ready to be parents before conception, and it reduces the risk of accidental pregnancy by adding another layer of foolproofing/redundancy.
/r/MensRights04/11/14 04:11 AM
8

lolwut.
/r/MensRights16/10/14 05:39 PM
1

Nope stop full stop I can tell right away what kind of channel this is this is a person suffering from gang stalking paranoia. There's a real toxic community that feeds into any insecurities and enforces that this stuff exists. This is not feminism, and using it as a way to poke fun at feminism or whatever is insulting to the victim themselves.
/r/MensRights14/10/14 10:34 PM
50

For the most part, the stance is that trans/gay men are men, and thus will have issues common to those of other men. Trans/gay specific issues, like any other categorization you can come up with other than "male," aren't discussed too much. For the most part, those categorizations already have support/advocacy networks built around them.
/r/MensRights06/10/14 09:49 PM
39

Wait, this shit is allowed to fly on FTB in the first place? I didn't think that they allowed anything remotely non-SJ-oriented these days.
/r/MensRights24/09/14 04:49 AM
2

For those of you who are looking for meaning in the people/poses/whatever, it's not the woman in the background or something like that being a troll post. Mark Henry Rallies America
/r/MensRights16/09/14 02:44 AM
2

Yeah, this is a copypaste that I've seen a lot of people use.
/r/MensRights15/09/14 02:34 AM
-1

Oh shit you got us time to pack it in I guess
/r/MensRights10/09/14 09:35 PM
2

Anything from this woman gets no direct traffic from me. Archive link: https://archive.today/W4k9E
/r/MensRights16/08/14 09:15 PM
2

FTR, I'm agreeing with you there.
/r/MensRights13/08/14 02:16 AM
2

Arbitrary If gender roles are entirely societal, like some Feminists like to say, wouldn't you expect all gender roles to be pretty arbitrary in some way or another?
/r/MensRights13/08/14 01:12 AM
5

Men and women are typically objectified in different ways in accordance to their traditional gender roles. Women, yeah, often presented sexually. Men are objectified as being a tool; the killer or the meatshield normally.
/r/MensRights11/08/14 03:06 PM
1

I haven't noticed any special treatment for being an Atheist, fyi
/r/MensRights11/08/14 02:07 PM
3

4th's class progression was different than 3 and 5 from what I've seen and remember (in the whole three stage thing with the paragon stuff). I wouldn't be surprised if classes and thematic requirements are more like 3rd than 4th.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 03:13 AM
2

I think that's a PrC for women who were killed by Kostiche. ("Thrall of")
/r/MensRights05/08/14 02:24 AM
5

3.5 isn't Pathfinder. 3.5 is a D&D edition that is very similar to 3rd edition (hence the .5 bump). Pathfinder is a spin-off of 3.5 with its own changes and is more or less a separate system at this point. D&D 5 had its starter kit released recently, along with a kind of core concepts document, but the player's guide and such hasn't been released yet, so prestige class details aren't that well known at this point. (The core ruleset has basic class information, but doesn't have anything on PrCs, …
/r/MensRights05/08/14 02:06 AM
3

It should probably be worded as "the pay gap is a myth. Here's why there's an earnings gap."
/r/MensRights30/07/14 05:35 PM
3

"He forced me to open the wrapper" - useless evidence now
/r/MensRights28/07/14 09:55 PM
1

Given the current administration, I'm more happy that anything is being done for boys at all. Small victories.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 01:18 PM
11

I hope this succeeds. I'm a little concerned though that there's going to be a lot of money spent on uplifting people one at a time, rather than address the reasons why these boys may be at risk in the first place.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 12:56 PM
3

You having a fun night here?
/r/MensRights26/07/14 02:46 AM
3

That said, I have no idea what the two parts of your question have to do with eachother. It really makes no sense. Traditional gender ideas would probably have women as so frail and wilting that they wouldn't dream of doing something so bold.
/r/MensRights26/07/14 12:58 AM
3

What is the MRM doing specifically for white men?
/r/MensRights25/07/14 05:04 PM
1

We don't, try harder.
/r/MensRights21/07/14 09:21 PM
1

"The best thing that ever happened for the MRM" isn't necessarily someone in our corner. If Obama said tomorrow "America is the worst country ever and its citizens are sheep," he's be the best thing that ever happened to The Republicans.
/r/MensRights18/07/14 03:37 AM
1

Be a native american woman. Take all their shit for free.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 09:46 PM
1

The entire time I was reading this I was waiting for the reference to The Simpsons in some way.
/r/MensRights16/07/14 08:47 PM
1

Maybe it was a copy/paste error that he didn't realize he made.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 05:45 PM
2

Good, the people supporting assault are already filing in on the courant.com article. We know what we saw of the "attack" from his phone but does anyone actually know what the pictures were that were taken with the camera attached to the drone? Curious if they were up close and too personal of people and their "parts". and Seems to me he got what he deserved!! Next time he should buy a magazine. Her case should have been dismissed.
/r/MensRights10/07/14 01:58 PM
2

I'm playing the "not only feminists are pro-choice" card. "Someone reports Feminist content" - "Oh, they must be an MRA" - same line of reasoning.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:11 PM
1

Sure, but there's no guarantee that the person/people reporting the images are feminists.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 11:48 AM
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This title is pretty misleading, and the article is making a big deal out of nothing. This amounts to "someone found something on the Internet that they don't like, and tried something underhanded to get it removed." You've actually got a story if the images get taken down.
/r/MensRights08/07/14 03:23 AM
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Unless there's a clearly unsurmountable difference in abilities, I agree that segregating events was a silly thing to do in the first place, even giving the reason that "other professional sports do it too." That being said, continuing the female-only events was a half-measure.
/r/MensRights03/07/14 12:31 PM
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It's good that they tracked it, but their unwillingness to include at least some aspects of it in the definition of rape means that the only thing most people will see from the report is Lifetime: 18% of women raped. 1% of men raped.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 01:30 PM
11

https://archive.today/SKvRA In case anyone wants to read it.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:49 PM
2

What is "this prediction?"
/r/MensRights17/06/14 08:40 PM
2

Thanks for going through the effort of finding it for me; I don't have a good bookmark list for these things.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 10:47 PM
4

Then you're more far gone than I'd hope.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 08:57 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that manboobz admitting that MRAs are telling the truth is a big indication that he's been forced into acknowledging an irrefutable fact, I just find it amusing that it takes a detractor's support for someone to believe the claims.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 06:55 PM
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TIL that manboobz is an "official" source.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 06:47 PM
1

againstmensrights
/r/MensRights11/06/14 12:45 PM
4

this suggests that men and women are raped at roughly equal rates That's the contention, or at least something close to it.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:48 AM
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Over time, men are less likely to classify abuse as abuse. /u/typhonblue wrote an article a while back that included a study where known victims of childhood abuse were asked later in life about their abuse, and something like two or three times more women reported that they had been abused in their childhood as men. That could help explain the discrepancy ("oh, that thing that happened ten years ago? Yeah, I totally wanted it. I think.")
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:19 AM
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I wonder if AMR seriously thinks that "fuck their shit up" and "inflict pain" actually means physical violence and not public exposure, critique, and ridicule.
/r/MensRights11/06/14 02:07 AM
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Nope
/r/MensRights03/06/14 08:32 PM
2

I like this; it's not overly directly an assault, it's got a little bit of sarcastic wit, and it shows without too much effort their position. I do worry about misandric male feminists turning around and saying "yeah, I AM one of the good ones in this sea of misogyny" and use it as a positive thing.
/r/MensRights03/06/14 03:35 PM
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Does the MRM address trans men and trans issues? Why? Largely it doesn't directly address trans men or their unique issues. Similarly, it doesn't directly address race or disability either. With the size of the group right now, focusing on common men's issues is about the extent of the MRM's focus. How does MRM treat trans men and trans issues? The members of the MRM will probably be accepting of trans people at a worse ratio than feminism because outside of TERFs, there's a much larger "group r…
/r/MensRights02/06/14 01:25 PM
4

How about let's not do this.
/r/MensRights31/05/14 03:48 PM
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Kill all men. But not all men. I still want to keep saying all though.
/r/MensRights30/05/14 12:16 AM
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I didn't?
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:54 PM
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Have you guys tried talking in the feminist subreddits? Do they just ban anyone who disagrees? Is that why I've never seen anyone give a reasonable response in those subreddits? The only two times I've stepped in there really should have gotten me banned from all the stories I've heard. I don't know, I wasn't really attacking feminism though, just questioning some of their assumptions (like that men need to learn to not rape someone? Can conversations about consent only occur when the man is red…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:08 PM
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Some of them leave me thinking "well, what did you expect?" and are actually pretty hateful or over the line, so don't take all of them as an indication of fragile feminist egos.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 04:54 PM
3

That being said, there are still some rights issues. Parental rights, bodily integrity rights, and the right of fair treatment under the law, for example
/r/MensRights29/05/14 03:38 PM
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Pretty sure #notallmen was an anti-male thing. There was a big bandwagon recently about how "not all men" is an evil male derailing tactic. And he killed six people for a lot of reasons; women not sleeping with him was just one more log on the fire.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 02:37 AM
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It also doesn't show up when you use a space, for the record Edit: searching "friend zone", /r/mensrights doesn't show up in the top subreddit list
/r/MensRights28/05/14 05:45 PM
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This has been covered here before, but there's no indication that it was an MRA or MRM supporter who assaulted her.In addition, MRM groups have put forward a $3000 reward for information on her attacker (no feminist groups have, though seemingly this would be a huge victory for them). This is squarely outside of the realm of sanctified actions in the MRM (if it happened like she said).
/r/MensRights28/05/14 02:40 PM
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That's a mocking term for MRAs
/r/MensRights27/05/14 02:51 AM
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No, those models instruct police to in almost all cases arrest the man, where domestic violence is in practical terms not a gendered issue. Men suffer from DV at practically the same rates as women, but do not receive legal support for it. Eliminating the Duluth Model and Dominant Aggressor policies would make police actually have to ascertain what's going on in the dispute.
/r/MensRights26/05/14 05:45 PM
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Then I had a slightly different understanding of what you were driving to. As others have pointed out, transexuals getting a sex reassignment surgery is psychologically different than someone self-harming. It's supported for different reasons than one may support circumcision.
/r/MensRights22/05/14 12:36 AM
1

So your thinking is "because MTF involves destroying a penis, it's a-ok?" That's all well and good, a little too out of the park for me to get on board, but I was specifically asking where you got the data that more people supported one than the other.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 10:28 PM
1

I haven't seen an widespread attitude that MTF is acceptable but FTM isn't. I'm not sure where you got that from.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 10:11 PM
1

Back in the day, I used to play a browser-based zombie survival mmo. On my third or fourth character in the game, I made a female character, kind of a freelancing counterpart for a male character that I had enlisted into a PKer group (humans killing humans). Both characters quickly became pretty noticeable names in the PKer community, but it took MONTHS for someone to figure out that I was playing both of them. As far as I'm aware, I was using the exact same 'speech' patterns. I wonder if there'…
/r/MensRights13/05/14 07:13 PM
7

Any model I've seen suggested has stipulated that if the father was not informed in a timely manner, he would have a time frame to decide to opt-out once he learned.
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:24 PM
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That last block is operating on the false assumption that what's proposed is an opt-in (ie you'd have to file to be the father), as opposed to an opt-out (ie you'd have to file to not be the father). A lot of other people are assuming that the only reason men wear condoms is to prevent pregnancy. That's part of it, but... No? And women can't wear condoms? They're just lying there helpless before a man's bare dick? They can literally take no steps to get the man to put on a condom or have their o…
/r/MensRights08/05/14 05:14 PM
2

From what I've read online, that's a common misattribution
/r/MensRights07/05/14 09:36 PM
22

Wait a goddamned minute. "What about the men?" and "Patriarchy hurts men too" are not derailing tactics; every time I've seen those phrases uttered, it's been used to silence male voices or discussion of male issues. I don't know where the hell they're getting that idea.
/r/MensRights28/04/14 06:46 PM
1

Certainly what I wrote isn't all-encompassing. There's questions about what exactly is "more" for women. Does building a safety net for women while classifying them wholesale as helpless victims have a net benefit or deficit for women? I don't know. I'd like to at least cling onto the perspective that feminists are at the very least trying to make things better for women, and that some things that they do are not purely from destructive motivations.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 05:07 PM
13

Hey! You also said /r/TiA is the best! Explain yourself!
/r/MensRights26/04/14 04:10 PM
10

A movement focusing on the advancement of women's interests and positions in business, governance, and society.
/r/MensRights26/04/14 12:45 PM
2

To put this here for future reference: Women display a large in-group preference: that is, women will tend to believe and favor other women over men mostly. Men display a weak out-group preference: that is, men will tend to believe and favor women over other men a majority of the time. So uh, there's that.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 04:04 AM
3

I'm responding to one statement you made saying "if men and women had equal opportunities, there'd be equal outcome" - do you deny making that claim? And hell, I just did one google search and found a ton of results pointing out how differently men and women's brains are wired, which should affect what fields and occupations they should excel at oh no how sexist of me.
/r/MensRights23/04/14 02:54 AM
2

In a fair world, 52% of a planet's people would fill 52% of the slots. This assumes that there's no meaningful differences between the groups you're comparing. Are you suggesting that there's no differences between men and women?
/r/MensRights23/04/14 02:36 AM
2

I can certainly see why they did it; a few of the posters that had to do with drinking are ignoring the fact that the men in that situation are likely as drunk (you know, except for I think the black-out drunk woman in one poster), and it's really infantilizing to suggest that the woman in this situation doesn't have the ability to give consent, but the man does. They did go on to say "don't be that girl" that beats your kids (majority of child violence) or dumps babies in dumpsters. Much more p…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 01:47 PM
1

To kind of ignore your post and answer the title, in the same way that you can be anti-feminist and not be an MRA, chances are some of the members of AMR are not feminist. To answer your post, certainly some male feminists are following the "nice guy" route; prostrate yourself to the glorious ideology of feminism, and maybe one of the women will like you for it. I know that when I was in high school/early university, I supported feminism due to a lack of critical thought or research. I also didn…
/r/MensRights22/04/14 01:41 PM
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Where do the "Don't Be That Girl" posters focus on the behavior of victims? I guess beyond that "just because she's easy doesn't mean you shouldn't fear false criminal accusations" poster. I don't think that's how they're looking at it though. Funny though that this response is exactly what you'd expect.
/r/MensRights21/04/14 05:24 PM
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More looks like a feminist/anti-mra group using the brand recognition to spread their message. Their other video is basically a rape culture video.
/r/MensRights15/04/14 08:39 PM
8

iirc, violentacrez WAS attemping to hide his identity, and so... doxxing.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 09:07 PM
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Doxxing implies violating a concerted effort to conceal your identity using a pseudonym. If someone is actively connecting their online life to their real name, it's not really doxxing imo.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 05:52 PM
5

I claimed that suffragettes participated in the white feather campaign, and your link didn't say anything contradictory. Hardly a rebuttal.
/r/MensRights09/04/14 02:41 AM
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The original suffregets participated in the white feather campaign, which shamed men for not going to war, for one.
/r/MensRights08/04/14 12:12 PM
1

Idunno, they offer training courses, from what their ToS and page source indicates? Not something I've heard before. Maybe something relating to freemasonry rather than the MRM.
/r/MensRights04/04/14 07:53 PM
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Feminists won't have a bright and rosy time on the sub, but we've historically had a few feminists here who participate in discussion and stick around.
/r/MensRights03/04/14 05:44 PM
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I think it was JtO who made a video saying (paraphrasing) "that's brutally honest from her perspective; rape threats fuel her ability to stay in the spotlight, get booked for talks, and keep promoting her ideology. People who just want to hear about science take that power away."
/r/MensRights31/03/14 06:43 PM
10

That, and "keep it in your pants" is a tired line by now.
/r/MensRights30/03/14 04:15 AM
5

There was a story that came across here recently where a woman faked a black eye with makeup and the police found out; is that this?
/r/MensRights28/03/14 05:57 PM
0

If it's an otherwise silent show of dissent, there's not really much for the media to catch onto.
/r/MensRights09/03/14 06:29 AM
1

Good point. I might have just been remembering the UN celebration of it instead.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 03:31 PM
9

I think it was celebrated last year with a google doodle... Well, as international toilet day.
/r/MensRights08/03/14 12:28 AM
3

Seconded - the link you posted to the "My Brother's Keeper" page seems to have only been linked on /r/libertarian
/r/MensRights28/02/14 07:27 PM
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This is such a bad article. The author should feel bad for him/herself. They had the more vocal leaders of the community in their grasp, able to ask them anything, and THIS is what they produce.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 11:19 PM
1

It'd help to actually look around the MR community blogs, podcasts, organizations, etc, before you attempt to strawman the movement to this extent.
/r/MensRights26/02/14 09:58 PM
1

Read more and come back later kthnx
/r/MensRights15/02/14 11:59 PM
3

The poster of this thread is not the OP in that subreddit.
/r/MensRights13/02/14 11:04 PM
6

To be fair, what else do you expect them to immediately come back with? It's the "your call is very important to us" of e-mail/PMs.
/r/MensRights10/02/14 11:13 PM
2

I bet no one knew states get reimbursed Outside of MRA/family court circles? Probably not a ton of people.
/r/MensRights30/01/14 04:51 AM
12

The assumption that women are The Victims of domestic violence, or that the immigration law is strict? We've brought up a number of times on this sub how slanted Wikipedia is, so it's not surprising to see that there. It is a little surprising to see how that passage was written. It belongs in an editorial rather than an encyclopedia entry, I'd think.
/r/MensRights21/01/14 04:22 PM
2

Can you supply a permalink?
/r/MensRights21/01/14 12:17 AM
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"it worries me. What quicker way to wipe out the gains we've made in one fell swoop? Going backwards... " All of the push-back on MRAs saying "Oh, you're just scared of losing your privilege." - Tick one more time off that I've heard exactly that logic from the feminist side. Projection is fun.
/r/MensRights15/01/14 02:38 PM
6

I think you just stumbled on a new "We told them it would 'trickle-down!'" meme
/r/MensRights13/01/14 03:36 PM
1

I mean, sure, but I hardly think this is typical for a pro-circumcision stance.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 04:43 AM
3

Kinda looks like they're on a mission to get banned from certain subreddits. Kinda sad, really.
/r/MensRights06/01/14 02:23 AM
2

That's a strange concept; what gave you the idea to try this format out?
/r/MensRights02/01/14 05:36 PM
9

400/83745=0.004 When you turn a decimal into a percentage, the hundredths column becomes the ones column, so you shift the decimal point over two places, which gives you 0.4 edit: stupid terms for decimal point fields
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:48 PM
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0.4%, but yes, you'd think a concerted MR attack would have resulted in many more claims
/r/MensRights19/12/13 02:40 PM
0

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confrontation_Clause
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:48 PM
4

I normally don't care about these things beyond the fact that it always highlights just how much people don't understand word one about MRAs.
/r/MensRights17/12/13 06:32 AM
1

"Up to" -- if there's one item of women's clothing that's really not selling, jack up the discount, get more women interested in the sale in general while still being generally truthful.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 04:05 AM
1

"Links to other subreddits must use NP format ("np" in place of "www"). Cross linking to submissions from other subreddits with fewer than 30,000 members within the first 24 hours is prohibited."
/r/MensRights14/12/13 03:16 PM
1

Preeeetty much exactly how men would rape women. Drugs, being physically stronger or bigger, threats of violence, threats to spread rumours, being emotionally manipulative...
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:19 PM
4

Wow, that's just vile.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:29 PM
7

Power doesn't necessarily have to be direct governmental power. Special interest lobbies can hold a lot of power without being elected officials, for instance.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 02:19 AM
4

Something about that decision has got to violate the Hippocratic Oath
/r/MensRights25/11/13 11:20 PM
1

No problem at all; I just know that whenever a link hits particularly feminist sites, I always look for an archive link first (/r/TiA has spoiled me), so I decided to take action this time.
/r/MensRights20/11/13 01:20 AM
5

Archived to reduce page hits: http://archive.is/9yi9y
/r/MensRights20/11/13 01:13 AM
7

So, most users on this sub seem to believe that advancements in women's rights will cause men to lose their own rights Wrong, stopped reading.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 04:21 PM
1

You know... that's not the correct channel.
/r/MensRights18/11/13 08:56 PM
0

When the Jezebel staff is covering their ears, closing their eyes, and shouting to drown out the things that MRAs actually do or say, what do you think they chant? The tried and tested "la la la la I can't hear you" or maybe something like "women are oppressed men can't have legitimate issues everything is a man's fault?"
/r/MensRights11/11/13 05:14 PM
1

All fair points, but change like the kind that these SJWs seem to demand is impossible to do in an immediate way, and can be done from outside of the country. To a degree, governmental changes can be influenced from outside of the country, too. The attitude of "it's the worst thing ever that I'm being subjected to ___, but I won't make the effort to remove myself from it, or make any effort to change it. You people, do this for me" causes me to twitch a bit.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 07:10 PM
1

Well, after a certain point, it is within a reasonable definition partially your fault for living in an area that contains rules or practices you don't like. If I didn't like that French was a national language, I could move to another country, for instance. If it's so terrible that it's ruining your life, you've got to accept at least part of the blame for being in that situation.
/r/MensRights06/11/13 06:50 PM
0

This comment is accusing the OP of being a troll. I'd suggest taking all of this with a grain of salt.
/r/MensRights25/10/13 06:13 PM
5

It's too bad that "feminists" is three syllables and that part calls for two. Would "bigots" be an acceptable substitution?
/r/MensRights25/10/13 05:10 AM
44

It's the meme that never ends, it just goes on and on my friends...
/r/MensRights24/10/13 08:12 PM
3

The article looks to be up now.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 06:07 PM
3

Can you... give an example?
/r/MensRights18/10/13 07:40 PM
1

Correction for the last two comments: it was written by JudgyBitch. (You may also know that this is pretty much how she writes all of her articles)
/r/MensRights18/10/13 12:53 PM
2

Something that might be fun is to say then that the definition of marriage is one man and one woman (I'm going to assume that she supports gay marriage), and therefore, whoops, I guess we can't have gay marriage, only "civil unions." They won't care about the emotional weight "marriage" has, right? It's inconsequential. (Just in case, I support gay marriage being called marriage, and sexism being called sexism)
/r/MensRights14/10/13 03:11 AM
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Blaming women for the problems of men is thinly veiled misogyny. And the reverse...?
/r/MensRights11/10/13 05:55 PM
9

It was kind of astounding, really. Such hyperbole could only slip past those who have NO understanding of the positions or goals of any MR group.
/r/MensRights11/10/13 03:50 PM
2

Well, I'm not too sure about that. Atheism, for example, is still to a large degree a socially fringe belief, but legal action based on upholding the constitution in the US has been wildly successful. Similar actions could be taken against various government initiatives. Granted, public perception will cloud the issue, even if judges are in theory impartial, but slam-dunk cases are still slam-dunk cases.
/r/MensRights09/10/13 04:03 AM
0

Overall one of the better articles I've read, but this is a repost.
/r/MensRights04/10/13 12:47 PM
1

OP was a troll, btw
/r/MensRights03/10/13 01:28 PM
9

Well, this can be summarized as "we want to keep all of the same crap claims and historical revisionism, but put a nice bow on it and maybe hang an air freshener on it, too." Don't forget, Miss Representation is the one doing that "totally fair and non-misandrist" documentary about boy's issues.
/r/MensRights01/10/13 05:10 PM
7

Someone submitted this link not too long ago.
/r/MensRights29/09/13 02:33 PM
3

To clarify, the talk was about a university society/center/group, not a community outreach/shelter organization. They were raising money for one of those, however.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 09:00 PM
7

I'm not sure how campus police forces work, but I don't think they're run exactly the same way. Presumably, this would be for overtime pay or something similar.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:56 PM
4

Of the lecture? What a men's center would look like, how it would function, and what the benefits of it would be, along with his experiences in running the one at his college.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:51 PM
6

The question was I think framed in a manner that suggested: "Well, discussion on women's issues is being co-opted and made broader, why should men have a space JUST for men?" But that's just how it seemed to me when she asked it. A later "question" suggested that having a men's center could help trans men who wouldn't necessarily be comfortable having to disclose their trans state in order to feel like they belonged in a "women and trans" center, and vice-versa for trans women.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:50 PM
4

The lecture was smooth as silk. I'm wondering how the rest of the events this weekend went/are going. I didn't really want to stick around for a night.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:10 PM
9

Unlikely. The officers need to be paid, after all.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:10 PM
1

Did you forget the "but no males or intuition that flies in the face of our narrative" clause of that rule?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 05:09 PM
2

Well, there was a pair of them. I was seated right behind them. They had three questions in total, slightly leading ones, but overall it was fine.
/r/MensRights28/09/13 01:55 PM
2

discussions with the ladies over there Remember: Be careful to not conflate either ideology with the group they represent. I'd like to see that, even as an observer. It may help things along to have posts put into a moderation queue (if that's possible) or elect representatives from each subreddit to participate (publicly view-able forum for those we know to posses a fair and reasonable mix of each side's perspectives and knowledge)
/r/MensRights27/09/13 05:55 PM
3

Legally, if "defacing" the national anthem, so to speak, is a crime, then it's a crime. There's nothing morally wrong though in my opinion of wanting to alter things about your nation. It'd be an incredibly unpopular decision, I think, but if the government was successfully petitioned to change the anthem, in whatever way your country would go about doing that, then so be it. I would very much disagree with the reasons behind the change, though.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 08:50 PM
14

$960 isn't that much if everyone contributes a little. I've made a donation, and I encourage you, especially if you were planning to come, to do the same. Let's keep these events going.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 06:41 PM
11

Probably a combination of things: Women-only scholarships are a thing, so past winners are going to be women Women are out-performing men in various areas of schooling, so depending on what subjects you're looking at, it's much more likely to be women than men that get them Women are currently 63% or so of college/university undergrads, so it stands to reason that if more women are applying for post-secondary education, more would be pursuing scholarships, and all else being equal, winning them …
/r/MensRights20/09/13 03:09 PM
8

http://np.reddit.com/r/feminisms/comments/1mpybj/the_onion_accurately_describes_the_egotistical/ccbnhy8 I'll just leave this here.
/r/MensRights20/09/13 01:47 PM
1

kthnxbai
/r/MensRights19/09/13 09:20 PM
5

You'd see a lot of men in jail, that's for sure.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:09 PM
3

Points will be awarded if you wrote that from memory.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 01:05 PM
3

I can forgive an undesirable method of delivering the message if the message is good.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 12:43 PM
4

Too much mixing in either direction is counter-productive, IMO.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 03:26 AM
3

Why not? Our cat-kin queen was with us from the start!
/r/MensRights19/09/13 03:11 AM
5

Don't you miss the good 'ol days when TiA was mostly about "omg this person thinks they're a cat!"
/r/MensRights19/09/13 02:04 AM
12

From what I can tell, it may be presenting the message in a stereotypically over-macho way, but IS encouraging men to seek good mental health.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 02:03 AM
1

I also have to say, the amount of Not Getting It in that thread is really amusing.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 01:08 AM
1

Q: How do men drive cars? A: How big are the cars you drive? There's plenty of space in a car seat/cockpit When I drive, my left leg is at a crazy sideways angle half the time. I probably spread more while driving than I do in any other sitting situation. so... I drive just fine.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 09:39 PM
1

A medical professional would have to answer that, I certainly wouldn't be able to. I am fully comfortable crossing my legs though as well. I do tend to alternate between spread legs and crossed though. Legs right together feels wrong though. Maybe crossing them helps get around some of the spacing issues OP mentioned somehow.
/r/MensRights18/09/13 09:33 PM
5

It does sound much more impressive and important when you say that being uncircumcised increases your chances of getting aids by 66%
/r/MensRights18/09/13 09:18 PM
5

Point?
/r/MensRights18/09/13 08:19 PM
26

Have I stumbled into TiA?
/r/MensRights18/09/13 08:16 PM
8

If claims of medical health can be defeated by regular hygiene and safe sex practices, then shame, shame, fear monger, and shame some more!
/r/MensRights18/09/13 01:57 PM
6

A surprising numbers of MRAs are Canadian
/r/MensRights14/09/13 05:35 AM
10

That's still venurable to the reddit Admins interfering
/r/MensRights14/09/13 05:06 AM
2

How the process of adding people goes, or how no one having access goes? :D
/r/MensRights14/09/13 05:05 AM
2

How will you be able to tell if you've been passed over for invite into the private area? Will you be able to request it?
/r/MensRights14/09/13 04:45 AM
6

Shit left doesn't have to mean "who cares about men" though.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 10:30 PM
2

Yep, it'd invoke a sense of childhood, ie a lack of agency.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 10:03 PM
11

"How dare you interrupt our circle jerk!" Way to be good hosts, people :|
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:54 PM
1

It's so temping to ignore the np and argue back against the brigade from the other side.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 09:41 PM
24

"A room with lots of men, girls..." No right, hyperagency and hypoagency are just things that we've made up, nevermind.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 03:33 PM
1

It is so! It's right there on the Movember site. I'd show you, but it's just got this sweet rattlesnake on it right now for some reason.
/r/MensRights13/09/13 12:35 PM
5

Largely the goals relate to thing that affect men, but have the end result of equality. ie: we're not advocating default-male custody, but default shared custody in divorce. We're not advocating raising funding above that of women for issues relating to medical research and support programs (like DV shelters), but leveling those figures out. Equal sentencing for men and women. These are pretty measurable things and have a clearly defined stopping point.
/r/MensRights12/09/13 09:42 PM
2

Buskers would get more money?
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:18 PM
16

Dude, you start your 'mo on Nov 1st. Don't cheat!
/r/MensRights12/09/13 02:06 PM
2

Try harder next time. (To troll us, that is)
/r/MensRights11/09/13 06:27 PM
7

You're going to get into edit wars about any significant change in tone or content. Granted, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but just a warning.
/r/MensRights10/09/13 08:34 PM
8

Considering the location, this should be a contentious issue, which may lead to another ugly demonstration outside of the venue. As always, attend ready to record your surroundings if need be.
/r/MensRights09/09/13 10:28 PM
2

Why, you thinking of RadFemHub?
/r/MensRights09/09/13 12:46 PM
4

The song is pretty much "hey, you're making moves on me but you're hesitating because you have a boyfriend/some kind of hang-up, but I'm encouraging you to take it further and let's get it on." We've got the interpretation of "I know you want it" and other small lines to mean "I'm going to rape you." Jeez.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 03:12 AM
2

It's been brought up here no less than 10 times, yes.
/r/MensRights08/09/13 02:41 AM
1

Is this an argument from The Girl Effect people? If so, do they actually have something to back that up? And if it were true, probably still not. Needlessly excluding half of the population from the solution is no true solution.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 11:49 PM
1

Quantity of work of an identifiable group does not have anything to do with the statistical likelihood that someone in that group will succeed. For that matter, where does that number come from?
/r/MensRights07/09/13 08:53 PM
1

First, the organizers of this idea would have to somehow show me that it's reasonable to expect that a girl would be a better investment than a boy; that she'd be more likely to succeed in animal husbandry, that she'd be more likely to succeed in growing a business, that she'd be more likely to represent the "let's enable girls to succeed" mindset... Because if not, then they're just advocating giving money to girls 'just because,' and letting boys fall behind as usual.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 08:11 PM
2

If you're a regular of the sub, then I don't think it counts at all as brigading.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 07:53 PM
1

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0762107/ Kinda.
/r/MensRights07/09/13 04:47 PM
5

There's been a lot of these today. Slow start to the weekend, perhaps?
/r/MensRights07/09/13 12:47 AM
53

Strong, powerful, resolute message. I've been a little unsure of what real-life activism for boys and men would really look like. This is uniquely male, with an overwhelming message, and so needed to help break the cycle of fatherless homes.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 05:54 PM
1

I figgered it'd be appropriate.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 01:27 PM
4

Haha, okay. You're a little off-topic though.
/r/MensRights06/09/13 12:03 AM
1

This is pretty much what I got from the song.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 07:33 PM
2

I dunno, I like the sound of a "snow claim"
/r/MensRights05/09/13 03:08 PM
2

Been posted multiple times on this sub.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 07:08 PM
3

Bye
/r/MensRights04/09/13 06:08 PM
0

What I've summarized isn't quite a strawman, but it still feels pointless for you to beat on it.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:41 PM
25

For sure, good on them. The cautions do come across as a bit paranoid, but they're at least applied in a gender-neutral way.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 03:25 PM
3

Yeah, it's been posted here before. But yes, it's the genderbent version of Blurred Lines in the strictest sense. It shows something about how we view gender and sexuality if the men in this video are seen as ridiculous. I mean that's certainly the impression I get.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 01:52 PM
2

No, but you see it has a line about pulling hair and "you know you want it." And the blurred line is "is it okay for me to rape this woman" not "does she want me to go further or not?" But you're right in that this has NOTHING to do with the original song. They see naked women and a few lines taken out of context and say that it must be terrible and should be fought. By hate and bigotry, for some reason.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 12:55 PM
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The point isn't that it's okay to objectify men, at least that's not the impression I get, the point is that they're mad that they think Blurred Lines is about rape and they want to get back at men. I suspect that the men are only really there because there were women in the original video.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 12:19 PM
11

Feminism is not [institutionalized] I'd love to see you argue THAT claim in a debate.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 11:54 AM
1

The thing that mostly bugged me about this paragraph the most was Most women—not all, but most—approach sexual relations differently than men do. They are more interested in romantic entanglements than casual affairs, and more inclined to seek solace in relationships. Implying that men, who approach sex differently than women, are more interested in casual affairs than relationships.
/r/MensRights04/09/13 12:25 AM
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You mean to tell me that when women are thrust into much the same environment that men have been in for centuries, needing to work to stay alive and support your family, they want to NOT be in that situation? Nooooooo..... You mean to tell me that women have very quickly learned that they've trapped themselves into needing to play in the role of a man, and that the man's world isn't all that they've fantasized it is? Noooooo.... That's crazy talk.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 09:18 PM
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By having nonconsensual sex with him. Erections can be involuntary, the same way arousal of women being raped can happen. Neither denote consent.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 07:03 PM
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No it's okay because they're responding to what they precieve as hate. Nevermind that they're responding in kind with hate, that's not what you're supposed to be focusing on.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 04:15 AM
3

just providing more sources
/r/MensRights30/08/13 01:35 PM
2

Stats Canada has a study on it: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-003-x/2001002/article/6060-eng.pdf That does report that women are at least hospitalized for attempted suicide at ~1.5x that of men.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 12:52 PM
22

Good point, thanks for pointing this out.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 02:50 AM
86

Also note: what look like arrest pictures for the man, a flattering home picture for the woman
/r/MensRights29/08/13 11:03 PM
6

It's a good thing that they were removed, but I hope this issue isn't pushed further; I have a "as long as it's applied more or less equally" view concerning violence in media. Physical comedy can be funny, and I hope that efforts like this don't result in it being eliminated from the airwaves altogether.
/r/MensRights29/08/13 12:44 PM
1

My school attempted to convince my parents that I had ADD when I was young; thank god they didn't go along with it, because it was pretty much the same situation... I just wasn't engaged at school.
/r/MensRights28/08/13 11:41 AM
5

To be fair though, struggling with a hello world program is like an artist struggling to finish a paint-by-numbers. This isn't "I'm having a hard time with this one concept," it's "so which one is the paintbrush?"
/r/MensRights24/08/13 05:01 AM
4

Overall, good commercial. The others in the series are also pretty good. There is of course one unattractive man being shunned and another being kissed presumably against his will, but to balance it out, there's a woman behaving irrational, violent, and ends up looking foolish.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 08:04 PM
3

Well, because the guy's side was linked back to the girl's side. It's not a men/women thing, it's a "they found the bait" thing. I mean, nice effort leaving two days between the stories, but come on. Plus, you should really use np links to other subreddits -- see the sidebar.
/r/MensRights21/08/13 01:34 AM
1

AvgGuy101 and you seem to be saying that she will. That's just as unsubstantiated a claim given the circumstances. Would you be as gung-ho about putting a man on the sex-offenders list?
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:25 PM
1

Because you're obviously not reading what I'm typing, let me re-iterate. I am fully in agreement that this woman should be punished for breaking the law. She is in the wrong, and I have not been arguing that she should be allowed to continue her statutory rape. What I HAVE been saying, but you seem eager to ignore, is that I don't believe that she should immediately be labeled as a danger to children. She has had one seemingly consensual relationship with a child (and yes, the 14-year-old is not…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 09:04 PM
-1

especially if there's only a few homosexual girls in the school What the fuck difference does that make? If you're in an all-male school that has recently turned co-ed, and there's only a handful of girls there, you're going to likely be more willing to date outside of your grade, perhaps even by a full four-year stretch. My guess is there's only a handful of homosexual girls at that school, so the pair-ups are going to be a little more varied in terms of age. She continues to contact one child;…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 08:30 PM
1

This is already in this subreddit. One of the top posts, actually.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:48 PM
-1

Adults shouldn't be having sex with 14 year old children. Of course not. My only point was to say that a grade 12 student dating a grade 9 student is not indicative of a malicious or perverse intent or behavioral pattern, especially if there's only a few homosexual girls in the school. It doesn't excuse her actions, but I think it's enough to resist outright saying that she's a danger to children. And just to head it off at the pass, I'd be saying this about any combination of sexes.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 07:25 PM
5

I dunno, it more seems like a couple on the wrong side of legal to me. I wouldn't automatically label her as a paedophile, and I haven't seen any evidence to indicate that she is. Illegal? Certainly. Will it be a reoccuring issue? I'm guessing not.
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:40 PM
17

Looks like they might be using the male perpetrator only definition of rape, but yes, it is progress.
/r/MensRights19/08/13 06:05 PM
1

I'm only subscribed to/visit in any appreciable way only a small number of subreddits, for one.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 11:06 PM
2

You never explicitly mentioned misandry in your posts here, and if you look at my other posts here, I agree that it's silly to call this misandry, unless you're doing it to satirize her reaction to similar works. And you know what? I'm going to take that position. The entire point of bringing this up in the guise of making a big deal of it is a perfectly on-point satirization of her/her supporters' reactions to similar works.
/r/MensRights15/08/13 11:05 PM
5

You seem to be missing the entire reason why this situation is telling, then. I think most people here would certainly agree that both situations, a graphic, tongue-in-cheek fanfic, and similar joking depictions of violence against Anita, are both not big deals, not serious threats, etc. The point is that Anita is endorsing this, when she's cited pretty much the exact same thing being said about her is evidence of a clear threat of violence. That's the story and context that is being pointed out…
/r/MensRights15/08/13 08:08 PM
2

What I got out of this article was "boys are terrible, but it's understandable because girls aren't telling them not to be."
/r/MensRights15/08/13 02:18 PM
5

And what about when Anita, or people like her, ignore similar context with works involving them, and claim them to be legitimate threats?
/r/MensRights15/08/13 02:07 PM
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I think the point in all this is that dark humour such as this was often cited as legitimate threats to her, even by Anita herself. It's a similar situation to the whole pycon dongle debacle. The woman in question takes public offense to innocent jokes, while making worse ones herself publicly. I disagree with OP that this is a sign of misandry, but it's certainly a case of her playing the damsel when it suits her, and this is further evidence that she has the ability to recognize and appreciate…
/r/MensRights14/08/13 09:27 PM
1

Apparently one of the video spots had a lesbian couple, if the comments are to be believed.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 03:04 PM
3

There is one: http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks/comments/y0mnx/dvipc_summary/ Speaking of which, /r/MensRightsLinks and /r/MRRef are always useful to sub to.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:38 PM
13

Note that as soon as someone brings up male victims, they get pounced on and accused of not having any data to support it. Always carry links to studies around and immediately back claims up so there's no room for the snarky "you don't have any sources" claim.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 02:02 PM
3

I dunno, that commentator went off on a tangent that was only related to the discussion at hand for a brief section. I think a downvote is warranted for derailing.
/r/MensRights14/08/13 01:19 PM
8

What legal rights do women lack when compared to men?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 01:20 PM
4

You're funny. And willfully ignorant, considering you've come to a place with lots of information readily available. So tell me, why do you not want men to have equal rights and protections to women?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 01:08 PM
1

...That beards... are necessary...? I'm not sure I follow.
/r/MensRights12/08/13 02:16 PM
15

That amount is the difference that the report was not able to explain. That does not mean that it's automatically all discrimination. In order to positively claim that there's a pay gap of 5-7%, you'd have to either: prove that that gap cannot be explained by any other factor than "discrimination" or prove that the gap is caused by discrimination, as opposed to another, as-of-yet-unidentified reason.
/r/MensRights11/08/13 10:52 PM
12

"men are more privileged than women" (perhaps referring to the fact that men in the US earn 23% more than women) How is that a privilege?
/r/MensRights11/08/13 09:53 PM
5

girlwriteswhat may be able to verify it, but she referenced a study where, when self-reporting rapes, men tended to serially rape, and women tended to rape very few times per woman. This suggests that a population of rape victims reporting female perpetrators would not lose too many of those numbers to repeat offenses, where the same could not be said for male perpetrators. Though this is going on what she reported in a video a while back, and I don't think a link was provided in the description…
/r/MensRights09/08/13 08:17 PM
3

Account is 12 minutes old, this is the only post, and reeks of troll.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:42 PM
3

Well, the equipment on those guys seems to indicate to me that they're on a photoshoot or movie set. I'd wager that OP is trying to demonstrate that the narrative of feminism is "women can do everything a man can do on their own and look great doing it" where the reality is that the women are being held up by the labor of men.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 06:20 PM
97

You beat me to the punch. Very much agreed.
/r/MensRights09/08/13 01:14 AM
11

Very much so. MRAs will criticize feminism, feminists, and women (note that these are three distinct things) for various things, and these are often all conflated with misogyny. On the contrary, an MRA will want a woman to be exactly as equal to a man in terms of their rights and opportunities. The fact that this may entail removing special privileges and handouts may be what triggers this the most.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 12:32 AM
9

Everyone bullies everyone. I don't think anything has changed.
/r/MensRights06/08/13 03:14 PM
3

Well, you've got to qualify that. It's probably true that the difference in median pay for all full-time workers was 25% in the 80's, as it is now (though last I heard it was 23%), where the actual gap between two otherwise identical workers was in the range we find now. The median pay difference for full-time workers needs to be distinguished from the otherwise identical case at every opportunity. Making sure that everyone knows that this isn't two people in the same job being paid vastly diffe…
/r/MensRights06/08/13 01:33 PM
12

the movement posits that men are the "oppressed" gender I wouldn't agree with that necessarily. Some MRAs do believe this, but it's not a necessary component for being one, nor do I believe it's at the heart of the movement. Whenever I read an article or hear a speech, it's "here's what needs to be done and what needs to change" not "men are oppressed, someone needs to help us." Experience will vary, for sure.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 06:54 PM
1

Don't worry, you've made that clear so far. You're obviously in a dire situation. Shouldn't your priorities right now involve finding bankruptcy lawyers, looking for loans from friends who wouldn't charge (much or any) interest, or perhaps more work? I can understand that you feel this sub has failed your needs and you're hurt because of that, and go ahead and maintain your anti-mensrights sub, but I'd suggest doing that after you're back on the right track.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:43 PM
1

No, I did, just directed it to ioudas while continuing your thought.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:34 PM
1

All /r/mensrights would do is tell you to lawyer up anyway. If your post in legal is a repost of the one you made here, I can understand why it'd be deleted. Very specific legal and financial questions, where your divorce, while perhaps an issue unto itself, is essentially just another source of your current debt in this case. I wish you luck, but spewing vitrol on this sub isn't going to help anyone.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:29 PM
1

That's my thinking too. The people who would get scholarships have already decided on pursuing a STEM career, and so wouldn't really need any other specific targeted encouragement. The average female STEM student shouldn't be in any significant way in a different financial situation than the average male STEM student. I agree that the REAL way to encourage diversity in traditionally gendered fields is to target the students before they've locked themselves in, so to speak. Get them interested in…
/r/MensRights26/07/13 03:14 AM
1

Straw! Straw everywhere! The horror!
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:32 PM
1

Well I think that's part of the point. If your tactic is to try and get women into STEM by just giving them money, then you're tackling the wrong issue.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 02:09 PM
1

Given the context, I can't tell if this is a troll response, or if you just didn't read the explanation you responded to.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 05:42 PM
15

Hey, look who didn't spend time researching. Surprising!
/r/MensRights24/07/13 11:36 AM
1

Not attempting to be condescending, just don't have time to write 30+ minute replies to comments in general, more so during work hours. Not a feminist, not a traditionalist. You're latching onto men/women, which is why I tried to introduce an example that did not use gender, but you seem very insistent on making this a men vs women thing, when I've tried to make it clear that I didn't care about the distinction, just that equality in spending is kind of pointless in trying to achieve. You also i…
/r/MensRights24/07/13 03:52 AM
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Okay wall of text. As a productive member of society who can't afford to spend 30+ minutes responding to this, I'll condense my response (as I also assume that you just like writing these diatribes): Your argument seems to essentially boil down to (beyond "you don't have the right to take away my money" except for the fact that you live in a country where the populace has given the government the right to take your money) that if a group is not given exactly proportionally the amount that they p…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 08:09 PM
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You can't dismiss that outright. When someone posts an article about lesbians getting married, and I think I've seen at least one of those articles posted here during my stay, it's very legitimate to question why it was posted. This subreddit is meant to discuss issues relating to the MRM or its interests, and things that are not relevant can and should be questioned, if at the very least to get an idea of why the person posted it.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:55 PM
2

The entire point of government spending is to a) keep the country running, or b) provide assistance to citizens to help keep the country running. If a group of people needs more assistance to help keep the country running, then it's in the government's best interest to invest more in that group than it would have otherwise when looking at something like pure economic output. Also, please note how I did not say that women do need more help. I was saying that perhaps even in a non-gynocentric soci…
/r/MensRights23/07/13 05:23 PM
2

Men are currently institutionally disadvantaged throughout our society and receive far less federal funding than they deserve (50%). This has always irked me. There's a fine line between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. Funding numbers are outcome. Maybe women DO need more money than men in a totally equal world. It's incredibly hard to know where the right spot to stop at is.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:47 PM
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This subreddit is for everyone, of which women are of course included. All you need to do is pretty much not be a troll and you'll find some good discussion here.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 09:36 PM
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Obviously it's only a trailer, but has anyone gotten any word yet of the goals or message of the larger project? Is this another "men are doing poorly because they're bad" or is it actually a "we need to support these guys because they really need help?"
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:50 AM
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You can check out stats canada -- I found something from them saying pretty much this a while back.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:48 AM
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A big difference between Christianity and Feminism is that the extreme factions of Christianity are very obviously the extreme factions. They're also small and obviously opposed by the main factions, where the main and visible part of Feminism ARE the extreme factions. The organizations that are pushing anti-male legislation. The people telling you that you're a rapist because you and your girlfriend were both tipsy when you had sex. The people insisting that men either cannot be raped, can only…
/r/MensRights15/07/13 01:42 AM
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Logically this isn’t even a thing. To answer "isn't it sexist to keep men out of your school?" Considering the fact that the majority of college graduates are women, this is actually a very poignant question.
/r/MensRights14/07/13 05:19 AM
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That didn't even address the posters at all, just called them gross and moved on to talk about the Don't Be That Guy campaign. Sloppy journalism.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 07:11 PM
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There's a sex joke in there somewhere, I know it.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:27 PM
3

Her colours change too, but it's not as noticeable.
/r/MensRights10/07/13 08:20 PM
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Posting the response I posted in /r/TumblrInAction - the post on tumblr was labeled as "Rape Culture" Peach has a castle, which implies that she's at least taking steps to protect herself from enemies. Internalized kidnap culture right there. Plus, I think that Mario kicking Bowser's ass multiple times shows that he doesn't respond to the knowledge that kidnapping is baaaad. In fact, this is such a bad example, because it shows a case where a repeat offender is punished for his crime multiple ti…
/r/MensRights10/07/13 02:20 AM
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I mostly peruse the new tab, so I don't notice a lot of downvotes in order to judge how serious a problem this is, if at all, but these kinds of things can be tracked by admins. If they're going to seriously enforce their new brigading policies, then you just need to make note of any brigading attempt (use RES, click permalink links on comments to see if it's been crossposted to another subreddit for example) and send modmail to /r/reddit.com where the admins should, if they're going to seriousl…
/r/MensRights09/07/13 04:41 AM
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How should I feel about this interaction? Um... the way you feel right now about it.
/r/MensRights08/07/13 08:27 PM
1

Peachy
/r/MensRights08/07/13 12:55 AM
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looks at score Because this thread is doing so well right now
/r/MensRights07/07/13 06:19 AM
2

(Not a MGTOW, but) I think that fatherhood responsibility isn't part of the MGTOW philosophy (as in it doesn't have an opinion on it). A MGTOW would, in theory, never have a child in the first place.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 02:56 AM
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I like this idea. What would be some of other suggestions? I need feminism to give real support to male victims of domestic violence I need feminism to not downplay the importance of women's violence I need feminism to not shame boys for being boys/curious I need feminism to acknowledge that criticism of a position is not support of its opposing position I need feminism to stop saying that current inequalities are justified by past inequalities
/r/MensRights05/07/13 01:22 AM
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By top comment, I understand that they mean top-level comments (ie what I'm posting now) -- if someone responded to me, they could be a hardcore MRA all they like and that would be fine (in the context of this rule).
/r/MensRights03/07/13 09:09 PM
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It's a fair assessment of the focus, though. The MRM does not advocate on behalf of women, so there's no use pretending. The reason that feminism is often lambasted by MRAs is not because they only advance the causes of women, it's that they don't do anything for/harm men while claiming to the exclusion of all other groups that they're handling men's issues too.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 06:41 PM
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These stereotypes are inconsistent with the female gender role, the qualities that are considered appropriate for women Yeah, they're also inconsistent with the male gender role too. So what? The people who have a passion for it are still going to do it. Maybe instead of giving people more and more excuses, you just... encourage them to pursue things that peak their interest?
/r/MensRights27/06/13 02:31 PM
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That's encouraging to see.
/r/MensRights27/06/13 02:16 PM
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Ah. Um, well, I hope you get lots of personal use out of this thread. You're probably the first person I've seen do this. You could have posted an image or something to at least contribute some content... but okay...
/r/MensRights26/06/13 09:16 PM
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Implying we have ban bots I wasn't aware that this was a thing that happened here. We have pretty active mods, is all.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 08:44 PM
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Non sequitur. Men being politicians does not directly imply that there is a system that favours men. That's like saying mothers are the primary caretakers therefore it's pretty safe to say that there is a system in place that favours women. Men are the primary players of hockey, therefore it's pretty safe to say that there's a system in place that disadvantages chickens.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 03:15 AM
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I started writing a response, but then read your comment history and it looks like you're a pretty amusing troll instead. Bravo.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 08:08 PM
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As is "her," from personal experience. I'd say that either of the three are acceptable. In this circumstance, "him" is certainly not gender neutral though.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 06:50 PM
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The meaning of words by nature follow common usage. It's becoming more and more frequent to use "their" as a singular pronoun. It's a little pedantic to rip on something so innocuous.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 05:32 PM
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It describes things so well, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights25/06/13 12:59 PM
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Mmhmm, I've also heard the terms "quote mining" and "subtlety" - and I tried to keep those terms in mind while replying to the person who made the comment.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 07:55 PM
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More or less my same reaction.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 07:48 PM
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That's good to hear. Here I thought that you were using insinuations of homosexuality as an insult to insult this man. Good thing you weren't, because that would be reprehensible on multiple levels.
/r/MensRights24/06/13 07:38 PM
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No, I'm suggesting he's not being honest with us. And so next time I see it used, what is "gak gak slurp" supposed to represent?
/r/MensRights24/06/13 07:16 PM
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Are you insinuating that he sucked dick to get the money?
/r/MensRights24/06/13 06:48 PM
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Good enough, and I'm glad that "patriarchy" wasn't mentioned. I wonder if this group actually does anything about this though, instead of giving occasional lip service and relying on "trickle-down equality."
/r/MensRights24/06/13 06:12 PM
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Rule reminder: No advice animals, rage comics, or other low-effort image posts. Mods may remove these at their discretion.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:33 PM
3

Another tired hit piece, it seems.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 08:13 PM
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Misandry = hatred of men as a group. I don't think I've seen any MRAs try and use another definition. I've often seen feminists use the Power + Prejudice definition to define away misandry. So... I don't know where you're coming from with those claims.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 03:47 PM
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the solution is to seriously examine the mandatory arrest and prosecution policies that are already in place in many jurisdictions. Forgive me for not citing this, as I don't think my google-fu is good enough to find the article again, but I've read about a county that DID re-examine its arrest policies, and the arrest rate for women skyrocketed by at least double-digits, probably even triple digits (percentages). This is because, looking critically at the situation, asking questions, doing poli…
/r/MensRights19/06/13 03:25 PM
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From reading the article, I got the impression that they were both arrested, and the plea for information is so that they can be convicted.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 01:55 PM
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Unfortunately, you have to start showing the falsehoods of the people trying to stop you (yes, stop you) before you can gain real traction. ie. How can we start to get more resources for male victims of domestic violence if feminist organizations own the narrative that women abusing men is so small that it's irrelevant? You're GOT to fight with them and show to the world that domestic violence is a non-gendered issue, and that as many men are abused per year, before anyone will consider helping …
/r/MensRights19/06/13 01:49 PM
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Presumably because they're under 18 and it's illegal to publish their details or something similar?
/r/MensRights19/06/13 12:27 PM
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I read this entire thing saying to every other sentence "no, that's not what the MRM is doing." The existence of the patriarchy is irrelevant to men having issues. It does seem to give them a bit more legitimacy if you can take them out of the framework of "you're doing it to yourself... and oppressing women at the same time!" Not a lot of talk is on how oppressed men are compared to women. Most of the talk I've seen is "here's an issue and here's how it's unfair. Let's fix it." No oppression ol…
/r/MensRights19/06/13 12:25 PM
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you could make the argument that "brown eyed people are aggressive, blue eyed people are not" and then point to how many brown eyed people are in jail and think you're proving your point. Actually, this is a good example of one of my biggest problems with feminism when they use numbers. Most of the time, it's phrased like this. Ex "4 women are assaulted each day in this town" or "10% of men will attack their partner" without also saying "but 20 men are assaulted each day" and "and 10% of women a…
/r/MensRights18/06/13 09:00 PM
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Primary aggressor policies rely mostly on biology. They instruct police to arrest the person that looks like they could do the most damage, which in a vast majority of cases will be the man. They also instruct officers to look for who is the most visibly distressed (normally the woman) as an indicator of who to arrest. (Clarification: the person who is distressed is not the person to arrest) Basically, they're using so many words to say "arrest the man when dealing with domestic violence cases"
/r/MensRights18/06/13 07:02 PM
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Repost of old, tired "we're working on it, so shut the fuck up" attitude article from Jezebel. This "equality will trickle down" mentality is pretty laughable.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:43 PM
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Tender years doctrine: literally feminism altering the family courts, not patriarchy.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:44 AM
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What does this say about society? It says that you're making the wrong comparison, as those married women with children who are the primary earners is a much more specific and higher-earning demographic than just women in general. Yeah, terrible question.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 08:47 PM
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Just to be clear, you're talking about the "oggling the pool boy/life guard" lines?
/r/MensRights17/06/13 01:30 PM
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That doesn't even make sense. Mirror's Edge was simple. The hardest thing to do was wall-kicks, and that wasn't even that bad/required.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 09:24 PM
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Why does any of that invalidate MRA issues, especially in Western societies, or justify Feminism (as I suspect you're using this to do so) in Western societies?
/r/MensRights16/06/13 06:42 AM
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~oh no, a game with a male protagonist whatever will we do to overcome this oppression~ So both of the main characters are complicated, deep people, but it's unsatisfying or unfair to primarily play as one of them. Because he's a man? Yeah, that sounds like a very well-thought-out criticism. I'm always so confused by people like this. They flock to the big-ticket games, complaining that there's not enough female representation, largely ignore smaller developers who may be more likely to listen t…
/r/MensRights14/06/13 03:35 PM
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As a child (read: university student) I never dreamed that I would agree with a Fox News opinion piece.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 01:35 PM
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I think one major difference here is that the MRM will tend to make logical arguments, while Feminism will tend to make emotional arguments. If logic is a prized aspect of the movement, then it will be harder (not impossible, see: Atheism) to fall prey to emotional ploys to push too far.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 06:29 PM
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It's more what that word means in practical terms. The Nazis were a political affiliation that didn't necessarily support genocide, but now you're going to find only a handful of people who would call themselves Nazis and be shocked that people would assume that they're interested in eliminating Jews. (Godwin's law I know but it helps to demonstrate the point)
/r/MensRights11/06/13 09:05 PM
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Not sarcastic, more just... evangelical. They are pretty much extreme feminists and a sub like this that openly challenges them... it isn't surprising that they think it's a hate group.
/r/MensRights11/06/13 04:15 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/MensRights05/06/13 06:17 PM
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/r/mensrants may be a better location for this.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:09 PM
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A problem is, that reasoning doesn't even hold up in this case.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 08:04 PM
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Keep in mind that the dictionaries tend to track common usage. There'll be more traction in getting this changed as perspectives shift in society.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 07:17 PM
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There's a Genderratic post (that I can't find through simple searches at least) that pointed out a few studies that showed that men tend to under-report these things, as they're socialized to not consider them an issue, and are therefore more likely to forget it. Among groups of children who were known to be abused as children, when they were young adults, the boys reported at rates far below the girls. That's why you have issues with the lifetime vs 12-month numbers, I suspect.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 07:16 PM
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No one needs to be "taught" to not rape. People know that rape is bad. If the discussion was "here's what rape is," we probably would not have a problem with it. When you treat a subsection of society (and let's be honest, these things are in the vast vast majority of cases pointed toward men) like they don't understand that breaking the law is bad, you're being really ____ist against that group. (Fill in blank as appropriate) Calm, frank discussions concerning "this is exactly what rape is and …
/r/MensRights15/05/13 03:09 PM
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There's also /r/MensRants if you just want to vent.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 02:12 PM
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Not the most glowing endorsements.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 06:12 PM
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That, and the men striking would be largely screwed, along with their families.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 12:27 PM
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"Girls go to college to get more knowledge. Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider."
/r/MensRights24/04/13 02:54 AM
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Your future is sent on a lengthy detour thanks to someone's personal agenda... disgraceful. I mean, hell, in my highschool, which was pretty much in the country and was therefore pretty white, had lots of men and women of various nationalities in chess, math, reach for the top, and other "white privilege" activities.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 01:53 PM
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It may add something to the metaphor if you remember that bulls are colour-blind.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 12:56 PM
5

AFALT after all. To a fault? Sorry, too tempting.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 02:31 PM
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Rule reminder: "No linking to SRS or affiliated subs, or Gawker Media websites." (Jezebel is Gawker) You can post a screenshot if you like.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 11:37 PM
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At what point are women not a minority?
/r/MensRights10/04/13 07:13 PM
2

srsly, your car needs maintenance
/r/MensRights10/04/13 06:57 PM
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femmsplaining?
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:31 PM
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This is just a list of crap that they've hand-wave defined as being a part of patriarchy. And feminists don't believe me when I say that the most common definition of patriarchy I've seen is "current gender roles."
/r/MensRights10/04/13 01:28 PM
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Don't expect too much, but I'd also suggest reading up on at least the overarching laws regarding hiring discrimination in your country. A company may have a right to discriminate if it's part of their marketing strategy, for instance.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 07:48 PM
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He may have also been making a joke; she's the only federal attorney general (right?), and therefore the hottest by no contest.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 08:07 PM
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Funny how much lying they had to do throughout the course of the post.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 07:51 PM
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To be fair, it was "down with U of T spreading misogyny."
/r/MensRights05/04/13 01:19 PM
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They're playing CSS tricks on you. go to SRS and unclick the checkbox that says "Use subreddit style" and you'll be able to do all the normal stuff. Also, SRS uses CSS to make downvotes register as upvotes, so I hope you weren't liberally using that button.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 02:44 AM
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We see this in that statistically, the majority of cases of sexual and domestic abuse are perpetrated by men, toward women. Is what I was responding to. The first link I posted contained info on DV, and the NISVS covers sexual assault. Am I missing something here?
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:23 PM
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Actually, domestic violence and rape are pretty even as far as men and women go. Domestic violence is pretty much split down the middle as far as sexes go. See http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks/comments/y0mnx/dvipc_summary/ The 2010 CDC NISVS has data that shows that not including prison rape, men are raped per year about as much as women are (but it's not counted as rape, but "forced to penetrate"). If you count prison rape, chances are men are raped more often than women.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:07 PM
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No linking to jezebel; take a screenshot and post if it you must. "No linking to SRS or affiliated subs, or Gawker Media websites."
/r/MensRights03/04/13 08:48 PM
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How do children who were adopted feel? Were legally abandoned to safe havens? I mean, right there, safe haven laws, are a means by which a child can be given away and all legal rights surrendered. It's more dramatic (physically removing the child as opposed to simply abdicating your rights to it). What we talk about is a less dramatic and severe method by which we can legally establish that a child is not our responsibility (since the WHO defines reproductive rights as the ability to control the…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 07:54 PM
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Sidebar, then get back to us.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:47 PM
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I'm perfectly fine if feminists want to discuss things here, and when sincere ones do, it's often a fairly pleasant experience; after all, egalitarians quite often want the same thing. The ones posting troll threads or just saying "lol get a lief and some balls" are the ones that yes, really should just stay away, as they have nothing productive to add.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 02:36 AM
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It means that they hunted down someone using a pseudonym on Reddit and set out to ruin his life. You can post screenshots to articles, but directly giving them traffic through links is not allowed on the subreddit.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:34 PM
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Yep, someone else has pointed out that this isn't the case all of the time. I am willing to say that the mother's attitude has largely informed the decision to pursue heftier charges though.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:11 PM
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Terrible, worthless article. Just another voice in the wind trying to raise up Richards and women in general while bashing men and the MRM.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 01:35 PM
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Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for the info!
/r/MensRights28/03/13 11:11 PM
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The child pornography angle MAY work, but I wonder if the definition is inclusive rather than exclusive. That is to say, is the definition "Video where sexual acts or intent is implied" or "video containing child nudity that is not taken by the parents blah blah blah naked baby photos."
/r/MensRights28/03/13 09:36 PM
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Well, I may not be the most versed about the legal system, but as the legal guardian for the child, I believe it's up to her to press charges (the cops won't pursue the case unless the victim [or in this case their guardian] asks for justice)
/r/MensRights28/03/13 09:13 PM
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It's important to note that they got off with no charges because the mother didn't want any charges pressed. That's the mind-boggling thing. By showing her face and saying the location of the school, aren't they identifying the boy? Or does that not matter because there's no investigation/charges?
/r/MensRights28/03/13 08:54 PM
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Well, if you want to use that reasoning, both men and women have suffered cases of being denied rights such as freedom of speech and peaceful protest; is it right then to start discussing them here? Should we begin discussing aboriginal rights issues because they affect some men? What about the Israeli/Palestinian apartheid? There are some rights violations there that affect men... I could go on, but do you see the reasoning there? Men's Rights is currently focused on (from what I can see) legal…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:09 PM
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Fathers are squarely contained within "men," gay people are not. Gay issues are not something that affect specifically men.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 05:53 PM
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...You want me to give a citation for personal experience? All I can tell you is that through my time on the internet, a good number of the definitions I've seen pretty much boil down to "current gender roles."
/r/MensRights27/03/13 06:18 AM
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I've seen a good number of feminists use this definition with so many words. I'm presenting the best possible version of patriarchy, since the other main one that I've heard, that society is consciously structured in such a way that women are subjugated to the benefit of men by use of gender roles, laws, etc, is laughable. The other one, "look, men run everything," is just as flawed because it ignores everyone but the leaders, and there are many many more of those men. The "current gender roles"…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 06:07 AM
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True, that is annoying and derails the conversation as well. It could fall under the patriarchy, but only really for men/women, not for sexuality, race, nationality, or class.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:48 AM
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One of, if not the biggest reasons why I don't consider myself a feminist is that after living my life genuinely supporting equality, treating people equally (except in the cases when I've wanted to date someone), not trying to judge or pre-conceive based on sex, race, sexuality, etc, I was repeatedly told, directly and indirectly "you're still part of the problem. You're still evil." Well fuck that, I know I'm not evil, I know I support equality. And thus a supporter of equality was turned off …
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:43 AM
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I think it's an issue that people from both sides can come together to agree on, but I disagree that it's something that should be done in the name of Men's Rights or Women's Rights. Gay rights are not a Men's rights issue, though they effect some men, same for women. That being said, I think it might be a good place to draw some conceptual parallels; overlapping demographics can help to show commonalities and suchwhat and so on.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:38 AM
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better phrased: not all males are MRAS and not all MRAs are male Yeah, I think we both understand here that it's dishonest to conflate the demographic with the advocacy group or vice versa. That's all I was trying to say.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:21 AM
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You're phrasing it the wrong way. It should be "MRAs, how can Feminists approach you..." -- since we all know (right?) that MRAs are not Men, and Feminists are not Women. They are groups of people advocating for various goals relating to those sexes. Actually, conflating Feminism and Feminists with women is one thing that Feminists can stop doing (You're attacking something that Feminists have said or done? Misogyny!) I think one of the biggest things is: Drop The Patriarchy. It's just calling "…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 02:05 AM
1

Whether he wants to be or not!
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:00 PM
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No, not equal. It's not heroic to tell jokes though. It's just a crappy situation with crappy reactions by some crappy people.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 05:17 PM
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The invasion that is apparently going on today is not only grossly misguided, but also not welcome.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 02:58 PM
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Agreed. There are no heroes in this story.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 02:26 PM
1

I suspect troll here as well.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 02:13 PM
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Yay new account troll post! People are really misguided about the MRM if they think we'd jump on this with positive reactions.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 02:11 PM
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Well, it's impossible to make it impossible, from what I understand. It's just changing the CSS, and I assume there's some sort of extensions for browsers that just forces the default reddit CSS onto a page. This also belongs in /r/mensrightsmeta
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:05 AM
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That's an SRS CSS thing. Upvotes are downvotes, downvotes are upvotes.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 09:12 PM
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Mostly the things she says and the ways she argues them. I can't point to a single thing, it's just a general feeling. I should have qualified that as such.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 09:11 PM
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The tags are "really stupid feminist shit." She's pretty much a traditionalist.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:46 PM
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I'm not sure judgybitch can be considered a feminist.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 07:36 PM
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Feminists use the fact that rape is predominantly a male on female Is perceived to be primarily male on female.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 01:04 PM
1

y'missed the link
/r/MensRights23/03/13 03:08 AM
2

When, god damnit, when will people just realize that if you are offended by sexually or racially-charged insults, they will be used against you by people trying to get a rise out of you. "Oh no I can't believe people on the internet were mean." You've obviously never spent any time on the internet.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 08:14 PM
1

Legal equality would be that, outside of reasonably exceptional cases specific to a gender (ie abortion), your government of choice does not/can not enact legislature that selectively allocates resources, punishment, or protection on the basis of gender, be it funding, government jobs, law enforcement, etc.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 03:26 PM
7

That's the problem with being puritanical about someone else in a very public way; you've got to step lightly from then on.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 02:39 PM
1

It would seem that the current iteration of the MRM is legal equality, so that's a good point to pause and take stock of the current situation.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 02:38 PM
4

Well, there's the disconnect between funding (which doesn't nearly all go into research, mind you) and research. There's a large backlog of male-subject research to catch up on, so to speak.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 04:55 AM
1

Usual out of context drivel. There's no real solution presented here either, just "hey, these raw numbers look embarassing!"
/r/MensRights15/03/13 03:57 PM
0

Also, we can't let the "rejecting science" thing slide. Most everything we say is qualified with scientific studies, and we analyze conflicting evidence to attempt to show why the results are different (ie a study showing that men rape women overwhelmingly more than women do men will not allow for envelopment as a definition of rape, or will only ask women questions about being a victim and men questions about perpetrating the crime)
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:28 PM
12

The closest things got to being aggressive were: When someone was told to stop talking because they had gone far over the 45 second time limit for questions. Cries of "censorship!" were flung when the organizers tried to keep things in format. When one of the feminist attendees started shouting at full force at the speaker. If I didn't know better, I would have thought that she'd rush the stage when that started happening.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:45 PM
5

Well, the dear colleague letter meant that for rape accusations in schools, you only need a preponderance of chance to prosecute. (In this case, kick out of college) So that means that there has to be juuusssttt over a 50% chance that someone miiiggghhhttt be telling the truth in order to ruin the life of someone else. With how cynical people are about men in our society, it wouldn't strike me as surprising that that bar could be set fairly low.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 11:45 AM
4

Simpler answer: here's what he added http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gender_pay_gap&diff=543745239&oldid=542783214
/r/MensRights13/03/13 03:01 AM
2

I looked at the revision history of the article. It listed a few edits from an IP (I assume those edits were his, because they covered refuting the gap), and those edits did not introduce the paragraph/citations you were talking about. I didn't look back to see if his IP was used for edits that introduced those citations though.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:57 AM
1

From what I can see, they're not Sharkhug's citations
/r/MensRights13/03/13 02:51 AM
29

Well, except for child custody precedent. And domestic violence law. And medical research funding. And homeless/battered shelters. Yeah, it's our fault, I don't know what I was thinking.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 01:03 AM
1

No memes or rage comics. try /r/MensRants
/r/MensRights12/03/13 11:20 PM
2

There's no way this isn't satire.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:27 PM
6

I was both bullied and the bully during my childhood. That being said, my childhood was pretty tame. The closest I ever got to being beaten was by my brother.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:00 PM
20

Well, false flags are a thing... I'm not going to outright presume that it was someone because it fits the narrative. Speculation is one thing, but as we keep trying to remind people with respect to rape cases, innocent until proven guilty.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:38 PM
1

I think that the damsel in distress model as it stands is outdated at this point. Viewing women as completely incapable of helping themselves is wrong - however, there are situations where men are more biologically able to complete a task that might save someone's life. By that logic it's not difficult to see where the damsel in distress trope originated, and there's still a degree of accuracy to it today - the more adept person should assume the responsibility. Largely agreed. In terms of the i…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:36 PM
2

Yeah, and for the most part, those are people who have a character, or it's done to show how great the hero is. The trope is that women are saved pretty much just because they're women. For that matter, do you have the opinion that men are saved just as much as women when they're in danger? If so, perhaps it's time to rethink that the damsel in distress trope even exists.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:12 PM
2

Related, but different. If women needed to be saved, but it wasn't worth saving them, would the trope exist? Think about how many times you've seen men that truly need to be saved (hanging off a ledge, backed into a corner by an alien, etc) that resulted in someone actively trying to save them. That includes the "set pieces" who basically just exist to show off something that an enemy can do, or how FUBAR a situation is.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 07:58 PM
12

Has it actually been confirmed that the feminist groups pulled the alarm?
/r/MensRights11/03/13 07:37 PM
18

The viewpoint is telling from this paragraph: You see, “marrying rich” isn’t about draping myself in diamonds and paying for superfluous cosmetic surgeries. It’s about being able to protect myself and my family from whatever expenses the world may throw at us: medical issues, legal problems, retirement. And in doing that, I will still be able to live in comfort, to give my children every advantage, and to seize opportunities like travel, investments and tickets to The Book of Mormon, but without…
/r/MensRights11/03/13 07:25 PM
2

Thank you, good rayn, for I was too lazy to look it up myself.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 06:42 PM
1

That being said, Youtube is a wuss when it comes to this stuff. If Nintendo pushed, I have no doubt that Youtube would side with them.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 05:50 PM
6

I wonder if the game would have been successful if this were the original version. I understand that... man, I forget her name. It's not Peach up there though, I do know that... Anyway, I understand that... Dana... isn't important to the gameplay, so presumably Mario being up there would make no difference, but it seems to me like the damsel in distress trope exists because society sees women as worth saving. Not so sure about men.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 03:48 PM
1

While I wouldn't recommend that men who are only dating ever not use a condom, that becomes much murkier when a guy is in a committed relationship and the women is requesting not to use a condom or they have run out. Then it is "do you not trust me?". Well, if you're fixed and in a committed relationship where you know your partner's sexual history, there's not a TON of point in using a condom, unless you suspect that she's been cheating. Of course, that goes for the woman as well. The alternati…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:04 PM
2

At best, this is circumstantial evidence. In order to confidently make that statement, you'd have to control for a lot of variables. For example, the article mentioned increasing sexual assault cases over the past few years. Perhaps that was a result of expanding the scope of the term, or maybe similar campaigns or efforts to get people to report assaults more, and this year, coincidentally, the increase in reports leveled off and this campaign was run. I've heard studies referenced in MRA circl…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 04:45 PM
1

Well, that's where long-time subscribers have to come in and practice good reddiquette to help keep the focus where it should be.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:53 AM
1

Although STD's are an issue Eh, birth control usage is still a good idea when dealing with someone whose sexual health you don't know.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:50 AM
2

which in turn stops almost all child custody issues Disagree. Custody is an issue for planned and unplanned children. I'd argue (blindly, admittedly) that the majority of custody disputes are between parents who planned their children at least to a significant degree. The procedures would certainly reduce rates of paternal fraud/cuckolding, and would have an impact on custody and child support, but I think the main benefit would be the paternal fraud angle.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:42 AM
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The big one would be to recognize all sexism as wrong, and fight as strongly against sexism that benefits women as sexism that disadvantages them. To be fair, if we want to hold feminism to the same scrutiny we hold our own movement, a better thing to say would be "you can deal with issues that affect men, but don't act as if you solely own the ability to do so." We don't talk about the ways in which men are advantaged, at least to any significant degree, so asking Feminism to cover our issues i…
/r/MensRights10/03/13 05:48 AM
2

Ah, with the half-obscured face. I really should have tried to find other MR redditors there. It could have been pretty interesting. Ah well, next time.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 05:03 AM
1

My hand was in the paper, I guess. Woo.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 03:39 AM
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That's not what they're doing though. Admittedly, they're pointing out what is a fairly insignificant difference and pretending it's something to be concerned about, but they're not saying we made up the patriarchy hypothesis.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 03:12 PM
1

There's a difference between disparaging traditionalism because we won't ever go back there and hating people who are traditionalists.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 03:08 PM
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I'd rather we use the word "hypothesis" instead, since even "theory" has a certain scientific rigour associated with it.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 03:03 PM
5

Fair use covers education and criticism, so I'm pretty sure she's okay there technically.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:25 PM
2

Were you the last question asker of the night?
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:21 PM
3

That username threw me for a loop for a second.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 01:19 PM
4

Men's Human Rights Movement.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:15 AM
2

Indeed. I think it's important to critically look at these kinds of things, and see where we can improve our message and arguments.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 05:31 AM
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I'd like to see what would happen if he showed his course materials to a non-feminist friend of his; see if there's any cognitive dissonance in play there. (ie "No, I'm not being insulted in class. We just acknowledge that men are inherently violent and oppressive.")
/r/MensRights08/03/13 05:26 AM
7

Agreed (to all of the above). The event seemed rushed to me, really. If you're going to wade into these kinds of things, I would have hoped for more than a patchwork pair of waders. That being said, this discussion series is still fairly young, so hopefully as time goes on, the quality of them will increase.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 05:03 AM
2

Ah, well it's good to hear that at least some of them spoke up. It was quite hard to hear even the mic'd people at times during that Q&A session. I suppose it's time to do a bit of research into those fields. That being said, it's probably still fair to criticize a feminist on the patriarchy hypothesis until they indicate that they don't subscribe to that hypothesis.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 04:59 AM
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Well, I WAS wearing green... Strictly unintentional, though. I've mentioned in one of the other threads that she might have wanted to at the very least mention that this is talking about a parent being separated from their child (and vice versa), quite possibly during very formative years, and that there's nothing wrong with same-sex couples, but providing role models is beneficial in lieu of a parent of that sex.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 04:57 AM
8

I've certainly not overtly assumed it was detractors for that reason. That being said, from the way both groups presented themselves...
/r/MensRights08/03/13 04:41 AM
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"I could go on for hours..." I am glad that she eventually left the mic; because everything she said has been addressed over and over here.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 04:38 AM
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I appreciate her not just pulling something from her ass, but there were a few things she could have said in light of the question: These things are said because fathers are most likely to lose their kids, so it's basically "don't keep the child from one of their parents." Lesbian parents can raise kids, but it is important to have male role models in childrens' lives, just the same as female role models. In today's society, a child is less likely to have male role models in education or popular…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 04:16 AM
5

I made the mistake of trying to explain that the MRM by definition can't be focused on LGBTQ issues... Regretting it now.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:54 PM
3

I plan on taking notes and documenting what I can, if nothing else for my safety.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 09:41 PM
12

I'm going to try and make the talk tonight, and I'll be sure to bring my camera along for the ride. I agree; using these postmodern tactics get us or our detractors nowhere. Document, report, and give the vitriol air to breathe; people will start to notice the stink.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 06:25 PM
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That point is basically summed up as: "The Tender Years Doctorine (ignore that it was a feminist who created and pushed for this, not 'the patriarchy') means that men don't get their kids. How terrible it is that MRAs don't understand that feminism can solve this (ignore the fact that this situation was caused by feminists pushing past equal custody in the first place)."
/r/MensRights05/03/13 02:30 PM
4

Does it matter that 1 a specifically says "he," or is that just a grammatical shorthand for "he/she" or "they?"
/r/MensRights04/03/13 03:17 PM
5

Yeah, from what I remember, the story was: Girl accuses boy of raping her, reporting it to the school and not/refusing to report it to the police School finds that there's not enough of a case to convict him of being a rapist, at least to the degree that a college can convict someone Girl doesn't like that verdict, publicly goes around and essentially slanders this guy by calling him a rapist publicly So... I don't see a whole lot wrong with her being punished for slander. She never opened a pol…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 10:22 PM
5

Well, equality might not be the best word, but some will argue that there was a balance. Women had low rights and low responsibilities (though that's not to say that they were second-class citizens), and men had high rights and high responsibilities. If the world we want to play in now is that everyone has equal rights, so be it; so long as everyone is willing to accept responsibility.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 02:35 PM
1

Yes.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:32 PM
11

It's my opinion that the most powerful organizations rallying under a banner do tend to define a large and non-trivial segment of that banner, if not the whole thing.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:38 PM
1

I've stumbled on a good number of the interviews, and they've always just come off to me as a pat-ourselves-on-the-back-'cause-we're-women thing. I mean, if the goal is equality, then why keep singling out female success like this?
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:24 PM
3

Very reasoned and mature response. I'd suggest you actually look at the sidebar and read some info before dismissing a human rights movement off-hand.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 02:23 PM
3

Jezebel exists to create traffic through attention-grabbing headlines and articles that are inflammatory. Disregard, move on. Jezebel has nothing constructive to offer, or at least I haven't seen something yet.
/r/MensRights26/02/13 08:38 PM
1

It's not a Reddit rule, it's an /r/MensRights rule. Juuust pointing it out.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 11:08 PM
2

I remember GWW mentions it in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDYAVROaIcs but it's probably not what you're thinking of.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 03:51 PM
4

I'm considering going... I had a chance to go to the Farrell talk, but I didn't take it.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 02:26 PM
0

Rule: "Links to subreddits with <30k subscribers must be to posts >24h old." Plus, we all know that /r/feminism has silly/arbitrary moderation sometimes.
/r/MensRights25/02/13 01:56 PM
0

Rule number one: "No memes or rage comics."
/r/MensRights24/02/13 11:13 PM
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I'm famous!
/r/MensRights24/02/13 10:15 PM
4

This entire thing is a troll, guys. I don't know about this post, but the video/femitheistdivine is. Don't give them anything, disregard, and move on. The video itself is an extreme body-mod fetish video that they're claiming is of a castration influenced by their goals. Disregard and move on
/r/MensRights23/02/13 12:42 PM
3

Great to hear, bye!
/r/MensRights21/02/13 08:16 PM
5

Well, the case could be made that if nearly no women were being arrested, and more stringent policies caused 40 more women to be arrested, you'd see skyrocketing numbers like that. We'd have to see the actual arrest numbers to really know for sure. It'd be interesting to see after that change if the arrests were near parity.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 06:32 PM
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If I remember correctly, native americans have the power to try their own people for crimes (a tribal court system). VAWA would allow non-natives that are involved in crimes (don't remember if DV or anything violent) to be tried in the native court. Basically extraditing citizens, is how I think of it.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 02:54 PM
2

The MRM does cover homosexual men in their capacity as men, but they've already got a huge amount of pressure and support behind them through other avenues. Simply not opposing them is I think all we really have to do.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 12:38 PM
5

I'm ambivalent. It may be confusing, and I think that if you're going to say MHRM, you need to explicitly say "Men's Human Rights Movement." MRA/MRM is an established brand, so to speak. I am also very confused as to how gay rights got thrown into the discussion as a result of this renaming.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 05:12 AM
4

It's just suggesting that the MRM be renamed the Men's Human Right Movement. The motivations and consequences of which have been discussed on Youtube at length for a week or two now.
/r/MensRights21/02/13 05:10 AM
5

I use it only to show how absurd some statements about feminism are (ie "Masculism helps women too"). -isms are "A distinctive practice, system, or philosophy, typically a political ideology or an artistic movement." AFAIK, the closest we get to this definition is "a distinctive practice" being advocating for men's rights. It's sad that I could consider advocating for human rights to be "distinct," but there you have it.
/r/MensRights20/02/13 10:14 PM
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What pisses me off is that those two things, research he did on incest and a comment intended to create understanding between the sexes re: consent and mixed signals, are quote-mined and used to push back against this man that, not too many years ago, the very same people would have held up as a hero. He's probably the least offensive person I've seen, and it shows that SRS has to take the libel to the extreme levels of "omg this guy molests his kids." I know I shouldn't have looked at the SRS t…
/r/MensRights20/02/13 12:54 AM
8

Yeah, my opinion on AA doesn't change when it's helping men, either. I'd rather they be more vocal in support for male teachers, and continue hiring the person best qualified for the job.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 03:59 PM
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[prepares for downvotes/threats] You know, pretty universally MR groups condem violence, no matter who it's coming from (ie our own as well as others) and from the sidebar: Advocating for violence/illegal acts may be removed. Are you sure you're not the person who needs the perspective of more than one side?
/r/MensRights19/02/13 03:57 PM
2

That horse doesn't look dead, so I don't know if it's accurate just yet. A meme? Really? Maybe /r/mensrants is a better place for this.
/r/MensRights19/02/13 04:00 AM
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Two major things, one of which I mentioned to you before: Tender Years Doctrine, Dominant Aggressor Policies. These were both feminist inventions that have created or exacerbated some of the issues that the MRM is trying to fight against. I'm not going to try and speak for the "trivial things" comment.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 09:15 PM
3

Posted here many, many times before
/r/MensRights18/02/13 09:03 PM
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The problem with this question, frequently as it's asked, is that Men's Rights is not the counterpart to feminism, it's the counterpart to Women's Rights. Feminism's theories and overarching narrative, whether or not individual feminists subscribe to those theories and narratives, are still significantly anti-male (and somewhat anti-female, really). ie: The Tender Years Doctrine, instead of trying to fight for equal parenting rights, instead said "no, men cannot be good parents, give the childre…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 08:41 PM
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For purposes of clarity: Female Feminists. Some of the most fervent supporters of feminism I've seen have been men. Unfortunately, even when you point out all of the ways they're being screwed over in society, it's "we deserve it" or "women have it worse." It's really sad when you have to convince someone that their well-being and rights matter.
/r/MensRights18/02/13 01:17 AM
23

The 1 in 4 stat is women who experience violence, not sexual violence. I forget off-hand in which study the 1 in 4 number originates.
/r/MensRights16/02/13 03:45 AM
6

So the argument is "It's more expensive to provide us some services, therefore they should cost the same as similar services men buy." It's like simple business logic don't real.
/r/MensRights15/02/13 03:41 PM
2

Second. It's too easy to fall into playing a game of toss the poop. If we're composed and reasonable in public and the #INeedMasculism-type behaviour keeps up, that's far more damaging than any sort of #FemalePrivilege petty comeback.
/r/MensRights14/02/13 06:46 PM
15

It seems to be that dudes refuse to go down on a lady because they think it’s gross, or because they find it emasculating (how a close encounter of the vaginal kind amounts to some sort of “no homo” moment is beyond me, but ok) In which the author displays a critical lack of knowledge of the definition of "emasculate." Which might give us some insight into the author's reaction to stuff. There's probably also a condemnation of gay people in there too: "Oh, weak men are all gays."
/r/MensRights14/02/13 01:10 PM
1

I can understand the rule to a point: It seems to me like non-feminists could add a lot to conversations, and I would personally, if there had to be a rule, make it that any top-level comments can't question or belittle feminism. eg: I posted a comment in a thread a while back saying "teach men not to rape" campaigns are insulting to men (we have to learn to not rape? Like it's something we do by default?), which was very much in-line with the conversation, got a pretty good reception, except fo…
/r/MensRights13/02/13 03:26 PM
2

Well... maybe /r/askfeminists would be a better place to start...
/r/MensRights13/02/13 12:15 AM
14

Feminists typically define sexism as prejudice + power. They assert that women have no power, and therefore cannot be sexist. I'm assuming that EverydaySexism holds that opinion as well, therefore there's no dissonance.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 07:54 PM
9

I don't see why one group needs to be singled out; as companies learn about changing demographics, they adjust their marketing. That seems pretty simple to me. Ex: I don't think I've ever seen Cadillac having a "Black day" because Escalades are growing in use by black people.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 04:37 PM
85

Sounds like this belongs in /r/MensRants
/r/MensRights12/02/13 01:41 PM
8

This might belong better in /r/MensRants
/r/MensRights12/02/13 01:38 PM
4

Under the definition the author quoted, men can be raped, but it has to be penetration, not envelopment. (Mind you, I can reasonably see that definition including envelopment, but the word "penetrate" is explicitly used, which makes me think it still doesn't cover envelopment)
/r/MensRights12/02/13 12:07 AM
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I can literally not believe how people who abhor rape and victim-blaming so much will willingly turn around and go to these lengths to attack someone claiming to be raped.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 09:35 PM
1

Yeah, I was going to get into the "theory vs practice" thing when I posted that, but I figured that the distinction was already implied.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 06:59 PM
2

Apparently this behaviour is something of a myth. The Titanic was an exceptional case. http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/07/31/3554854.htm
/r/MensRights11/02/13 06:38 PM
5

Well, beyond sexual violence (from what I understand), women are the most likely to abuse their children, so the bill would totally be justified.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 07:49 PM
3

I think this speaks volumes, and I love that tweet. Poetic in its simplicity yet scope.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 12:38 PM
2

Who they? The people in your picture? Half of them are saying "men are pussies" and the rest are saying near to total fabrications.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 01:40 AM
4

Well, it's a good way to see people's true colours.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 01:35 AM
13

On one hand, I don't like the tag because of "Masculism," and it's obvious that the entire thing was mostly meant to be a troll, but the responses are depressing. "#ineedmasculismbecause if I lose the privilege I've had my entire life, what will I have left?" missingthepoint
/r/MensRights08/02/13 03:51 PM
1

Are you saying that "you're a loser"-type rebuttals deserve to have their flaws found beyond bringing up ad-hominem?
/r/MensRights08/02/13 01:11 AM
2

Look, all I'm trying to do is give you some ammo to say that they didn't label the MRM as a hate group, so you can have something to use against people who say that they did. I don't much care about how much cherry-picking they did while dancing around it.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 02:19 PM
1

Well hey, no matter how trivial the difference may be, I'm just pointing out that there is one. It should be mentioned that the SPLC did not label MRAs as members of a hate movement http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/05/15/intelligence-report-article-provokes-outrage-among-mens-rights-activists/
/r/MensRights07/02/13 01:58 PM
2

IIRC, the MRM was never officially labeled as a hate group, just that top-level "report" was written on it.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 12:47 PM
5

I was pretty shocked that a group like this exists in Canada, where normally this kind of lobbying comes from the southern U.S. Bigots exist everywhere. The type of religiously-motivated bigots you're talking about tend to come from Alberta, though obviously no place is immune. In any case, the tactic they're using makes sense. I honestly can't fault them (much) for playing off of fear for women to push their agenda. Technically there should be some biologically male sexual predators who identif…
/r/MensRights07/02/13 01:25 AM
1

I can see what you're saying, but do his own inconsistencies negate the effectiveness of using this tactic? And just to defend the first point a bit, the situation he's describing where this tactic would be used is to shut down the emotional "you're a loser" rebuttal to an intelligent, well-argued point.
/r/MensRights07/02/13 01:13 AM
6

I've been thinking that /r/everydaymisandry would be a good name to use
/r/MensRights06/02/13 04:19 PM
15

Aurini made a video a little while back talking about feminine argument tactics, which do basically boil down to "you're not in the in-group" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGwntiOjSt8
/r/MensRights06/02/13 01:30 PM
4

Well, I can't say I'm surprised by the reactions of the author or purple writer...
/r/MensRights06/02/13 01:26 PM
2

Well, presumably rule one of that sub would be "no oppression olympics. We talk about the issues here."
/r/MensRights06/02/13 12:49 PM
20

Someone edited the article exactly the way I would have to say "As of 15 November 2012, 1,243 people (1,237 males and 6 females) have been executed."
/r/MensRights05/02/13 04:05 PM
21

Heh, the /r/mensrights post is #2 of all time on that subreddit now.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 02:33 AM
3

fwiw, I don't see the difference in "childness" between liking that show and liking, say, COD. Or the Zelda series, to give a closer example.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 01:51 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/143skb/2010_cdc_survey_on_sexual_violence_shows_that/ I don't think the math is perfect; the CDC's numbers say it's around that amount.
/r/MensRights05/02/13 01:47 AM
1

Not really related to the discussion at hand, but can you please use "too" properly? It hurt to read the OP.
/r/MensRights03/02/13 12:55 PM
1

Rule reminder: "No linking to SRS or affiliated subs, or Gawker Media websites."
/r/MensRights01/02/13 12:52 AM
4

Those problems will follow, especially if the first people who get there will star in a freakin' reality show.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 02:23 PM
2

A total -1 does not oblivion make, especially when there's only five votes.
/r/MensRights30/01/13 01:08 PM
46

Just another bit of proof that if you actually tell men you care, they will respond.
/r/MensRights29/01/13 03:19 PM
3

You could also talk about the complete dismissal of male rape; according to the CDC NISVS (2010), as many men are raped as women in a year (1.1% or so each, I think), but these rapes are not recognized for what they are. So there's this hyperinflation of fear toward women's safety and a complete lack of attention towards mens', but for something that happens to each at the same rates.
/r/MensRights28/01/13 07:20 PM
5

Well, all of/the majority of the posts I've seen here have been summed up as "If men have to be drafted, so do women. Maybe the prospect of that will lead to the elimination of the draft all-together, which is something I want to see much more"
/r/MensRights28/01/13 04:24 PM
1

http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiedrummond/2012/06/18/female-soldiers-health/
/r/MensRights28/01/13 01:50 PM
1

%30 of people who eat bread are rapists! Clearly it's the bread that's the issue.
/r/MensRights27/01/13 01:00 PM
1

I can see the argument that they're essentially reducing a women down to a pair of breasts. Still doesn't make much sense given the context that allworkandlowpay mentioned
/r/MensRights24/01/13 06:38 PM
20

I read a much more balanced article this morning: here that specifically brings up the numbers: 4.5% of women in the 2010 CDC intimate partner violence study reported birth control sabotage, where, gasp, 8.5% of men reported it! It's a wonder how people can honestly and boldly talk about righting the wrongs women face and right off the bat completely ignore the even more serious situation men are facing.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 02:55 PM
1

I wonder what what would happen if someone did call in there to talk about being abused.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 02:13 PM
11

I want to laugh, but I'm also very sad that this happened so close to home, and that the student union is doubling-down on the rhetoric.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 04:25 AM
3

The number is mostly accurate in the sense that it is reporting the median full time pay across all professions. So on average, a man makes more than a woman. In the same job, there is no gap to speak of, and will mostly come down to individual traits of each person.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 09:25 PM
8

I sense SRS bait here.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 05:02 PM
132

That is, unless it becomes "fact" and no amount of "no really, it was a joke to begin with" can reverse it.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 03:12 PM
1

Plus, I don't see what's good about no consent or restriction abortions... Seems like a strange metric to go by.
/r/MensRights16/01/13 09:16 PM
0

It doesn't say anything about the quality or worth of the other task, just the fact that it is not "male." It might help to explain the difference between disliking something because it does not meet a definition is not the same as, or does not imply, disliking something because it does meet a definition.
/r/MensRights15/01/13 07:03 PM
3

The thing you don't seem to grasp is the difference here between "primary" and "majority." Primary implies a hierarchy, where we defer to men if there are any around who want to take up one of those elements in the list. A cursory examination of current society shows that men are not deferred to. They may be generally preferred (ie in the past, both women and men preferred to have male bosses. It's around 25%/25%/50% male/female/no preference now, iirc), but are not the primary group selected fr…
/r/MensRights10/01/13 07:17 PM
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Apparently a community of idiots created it, then, which is still strikingly appropriate.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:15 AM
10

My mother was an elementary school teacher before she retired. One day a girl was wearing one of those "throw rocks at boys" shirts to school. At the beginning of class, she didn't say anything, and just wrote "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" on the blackboard. The girls all giggled. She erased "Boys" and wrote "Girls." The girls were a little taken aback, and the boys laughed a little in response. She erased "Girls" and wrote "Blacks," then "Jews," then "Gays." The kids were silent. "Hate…
/r/MensRights17/12/12 04:21 PM
6

Pretty much in the same way a man rapes a woman. Men don't choose their body response, so it's very possible to be conscious, hating every minute of it, and being hard.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 01:23 AM
1

I get that he's a comedian and they're supposed to make fun of things, but wow is this bad.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 06:51 PM
12

My point was that the response was, paraphrased, "in regards to discussing male gender roles, it's sufficient that feminism addresses a small percentage of the male gender"
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:31 PM
12

...do you...not know what trans* and queer mean? Well, considering people like to use ridiculously encompassing definitions of words, would you consider trans and queer to encompass cis straight men? 'cause from my understanding, trans and queer as two collective groups are not cis straight men, or men in general. Feel free to correct me though. what's wrong with talking about "toxic masculinity"? If the only thing talked about is "masculinity is baaaadddd," by definition you're not addressing m…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 08:10 PM
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In reponse to "Feminists don't address men's gender roles" you literally just said "That's not true, they address other things as well that aren't male gender roles" Pretty much the only discussion of male gender roles I've really seen is "toxic masculinity."
/r/MensRights13/12/12 07:47 PM
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It's worth the effort to know you went the extra mile
/r/MensRights13/12/12 07:09 PM
0

I didn't want to explicitly say, but yeah :P
/r/MensRights13/12/12 04:07 PM
5

It's painful to read the thread that this came from. So much strawmanning. So much.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 01:24 AM
3

Glad I'm not the only one who read this and thought "so they want the MRM to be MaleFeminists." It's a bit of a combination of the MRM hasn't fully figured itself out yet and feminists are trying to analyze the MRM through a feminist lens, which really distorts the conclusions they draw.
/r/MensRights12/12/12 09:50 PM
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The rumor mill does not require truth to keep spinning.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 02:01 PM
3

Hey there. I haven't gone out and tallied the number of ways people are discriminated against, and certainly comparing who is discriminated against more does nothing for either side. I AM of the mindset that discrimination against men is largely accepted or ignored. Rights as a measure of equality under the law? I'm not sure. I haven't seen any legal issues really brought forward recently beyond maybe abortion. Everything these days that I've seen has mostly been societal views. I'd be happy to …
/r/MensRights07/12/12 09:08 PM
2

They would be going through all this suffering SOLELY because of the machinations of the abuse industry. He's talking about the tea-drinking abuse hysteria there.
/r/MensRights07/12/12 02:13 PM
5

This actually kind of ties in with the incest study that Warren Farrell did and the protesters at his Toronto talk interpreted it as him supporting the practice. This analogy works for either statutory rape or incest: This was a personal experience of mine - I grew up being atheist, as in my parents just did not talk about religion, so that was my default. As I was a child, I would, without thinking about it, occasionally ask my parents questions about religion, get some small response, and move…
/r/MensRights07/12/12 02:09 PM
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CDC report on intimate partner violence, 2010. Men are "Forced to penetrate" at a rate of 1.1% of male pop. a year. Females are Raped (including only attempted rape) at a rate of 1.1% of female pop. a year. Of the men forced to penetrate, 79% reported only female perpetrators. For more in-depth math on this, see http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/143skb/2010_cdc_survey_on_sexual_violence_shows_that/
/r/MensRights06/12/12 06:18 PM
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Assuming this isn't OPs youtube account,they were just quoting the description of the video here.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:19 PM
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There's always ways around being neutral in language, but it'd be a useful starting point.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 03:58 PM
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I think the strongest argument we have here is that of Reprodutive Rights. The WHO defines reproductive rights as: Reproductive rights rest on the recognition of the basic right of all couples and individuals to decide freely and responsibly the number, spacing and timing of their children and to have the information and means to do so, and the right to attain the highest standard of sexual and reproductive health. They also include the right of all to make decisions concerning reproduction free…
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:34 PM
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In my mind, there's a bit of difference, but an important difference, in holding up what someone said in public without any effort to be anonymous, and digging up someone's identity when they have used a pseudonym and doing it. That may sound like a weak difference, but I think that respecting anonymity is important (unless it's used to undertake violence or suppress others' rights, that is)
/r/MensRights05/12/12 06:24 PM
3

I can appreciate the sentiment, but linking to Gawker is against the sub rules.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 05:25 AM
6

That last "fucking scummmmm" dripped with desperation. I don't know what it was desperate for, but it was telling, for some reason.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 09:58 PM
4

Men's Rights and Women's Rights are NOT biased against each other. Equality is not a zero-sum game, and while gains on either end will affect the other, they will not, in the ideal world, generate issues that the other side needs to address. (You may be thinking about Men's Rights and Feminism specifically, which ARE pretty much at odds)
/r/MensRights04/12/12 08:09 PM
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The usual retort is: "Yeah! Why not bring the men and women together. and the LGBT. And all the racial groups. and all the religious groups. And all the fetish groups. We'll all be one big equality group that can't functionally do anything!" Distribution of work applies to groups like this, so while I may be advocating for secular and men's rights issues and be reasonably effective, someone else can advocate for women's rights and BDSM issues and do it much better than I could if I had to devote…
/r/MensRights04/12/12 07:58 PM
1

What would the reasoning behind that be? Feminists supported it for the right reasons, but politicians supported it for the wrong ones?
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:16 AM
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Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral Farral I don't think it's working.
/r/MensRights04/12/12 03:03 AM
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Gotta be honest, I've never really understood the patriarchy argument. It seems to me like the world is just run by the wealthy and powerful, and men are useful idiots to be given positions of power (or "power") to keep the whole thing going.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 06:32 PM
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I'd suggest that if it comes to a head, tell him straight out that it makes you uncomfortable to be at work, and that if it keeps up you won't want to work there. If you're a valuable employee, a smart business owner will respect what's best for his company. If he doesn't, you can rest assured that he doesn't have his priorities straight, and you'll at least have a bit of time to search for a new job.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 04:06 PM
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Suggestion: Copy their typography and direct people to a site refuting the "be a man" campaign, or a MRM site.
/r/MensRights03/12/12 03:26 PM
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Note: None of what you've just mentioned is women being denied the right to do anything. Societal pressures do not constitute rights violations.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 01:49 PM
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There have been many laws made about what a man/woman can and cannot do (i.e. vote) Laws are largely one directional - They say what women cannot do, not what men cannot do. You've just given yourself one example of a law that prohibited men from voting. Universal male suffrage came only shortly before women (in the UK at least). I think a good retort to the first argument is that while government may seem to benefit one sex over another in terms of the laws on the books, common perceptions and …
/r/MensRights01/12/12 04:08 AM
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Clearly men have more rights than women Rephrase edit, because I phrased it like rights were a currency. What rights to men have that women do not? In addition, what rights do you think that women have that men do not? Do you think men and women both deserve a right that neither is getting?
/r/MensRights01/12/12 02:53 AM
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I’ve kind of been struggling with some really icky demons lately I think that sums it up well.
/r/MensRights30/11/12 10:25 PM
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Agreed, and important to note in these kinds of talks.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 06:11 PM
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At least on the MRA side, feminist influence IS working to gain an unequal advantage through legislation and special interest lobbying (ie abuse support) The MRAs I've seen have not actually done anything to unequally balance the scales
/r/MensRights29/11/12 04:46 PM
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I'd probably suggest the age of sexual consent
/r/MensRights29/11/12 03:33 PM
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This is perhaps an opportunity for us to critically examine the MRM's response to RW in particular, but I'd also like to gague the response to the comic itself: I haven't seen any of us attacking Mr Weiner about the comic, and for that I'm glad, since I know for a fact that he didn't mean this to be offensive, and like most comics, is mostly just reflecting society's perceptions of appropriateness and politically correct boundaries.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 02:59 AM
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A bit of both. I (perhaps optimistically) am of the opinion that if someone came forward and said "hey look, all of these feminists are decrying this incident for the same reasons we are" that MR would collectively say "good" and move on/stop the rhetoric of "this is exactly what they complain about, I bet they're not complaining about this though"
/r/MensRights28/11/12 10:51 PM
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None. There's a link to the article on /r/feminism but it hasn't gotten any comments, and doesn't appear in any other potentially antagonistic subreddits. A google search brings up articles, but I see none from any feminists/feminist blogs I know of. (Actually, I would have thought they'd be all over this due to the impact on pre-op trans m-f people)
/r/MensRights28/11/12 07:35 PM
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... So one story (and I'll give you it's a sad story that is tangentially related to the kinds of things we talk about) negates legitimate concerns that the MRM has. The so-called “men’s rights” movement is very intent on convincing the public that domestic violence is overblown by feminists, and that many to most victims are lying to the police and the courts, who take them at their word because the justice system is supposedly in the thrall of the all-powerful feminist regime. See also: we don…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 05:34 PM
3

I think if you showed the people here outrage coming from SRS or feminist blogs/communities pointing out that this is victim blaming, they'd be much more satiated.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 04:11 PM
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I really don't get things like this. Yes, I totally agree that societies should strive for safety, but: 1) Do you really think you can expect to be totally safe from any violent crime every time you're in public? I worked in Toronto for a few months and had to take a bus through Regent Park (for those of you unfamiliar with the area, at the time it was the second or third-biggest hotbed of crime and violence in T.O.) and was almost mugged one day because I had my DS out on the bus. You know what…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:17 PM
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I believe the rule is directly linking to the comment thread. You can link to any non-reddit sites you wish (e.g. articles) regardless of whether that article has also been submitted to another subreddit.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 02:03 PM
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Oh no I didn't mean the "this one time this one person posted this one comment and don't mind that it had negative karma by the time I found it this is totally /mensrights endorsing it" points. I meant the things with sources and such. Edit: That aren't a screenshot of a post
/r/MensRights28/11/12 12:49 PM
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I've read the post in question; it might be good to go through the post and examine the points. Even if it is painful, it would be useful for the people in this subreddit to have tools at their disposal to fight these claims. One that I'm interested in researching further is a rebuttal to the regular claim that women get custody far more readily than men. The rebuttal cited a study out of MA, I believe, from the 1990s and claimed that when men asked for custody, they in the majority of cases got…
/r/MensRights28/11/12 04:22 AM
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I'm guessing it's a SRS troll. Simple enough to wave away if anyone brings it up. Not much we can really do about it. Disregarding and powering down.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:56 AM
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I was coming at it from the perspective of "At least the majority of the comments aren't positive" even if it has been reblogged a bunch of times. Like you said, there's not much tumbfems will take from the comments, so small victories, at least.
/r/MensRights28/11/12 03:51 AM
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I'm not a sperm donor, so I don't know the mindset of one, but I can guess that if someone found me and told me they were my child, it would change my life. I assume that if I donated anonymously, I wouldn't want my life to be changed like that. It's a good thing this decision was overturned.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:09 PM
1

I believe the post you linked to was removed. Did you happen to take a screenshot?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 11:05 PM
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Apparently the person running it is pretty extreme. Like more than RadFemHub extreme. I dunno, I've only seem references to it once or twice. I'm just drawing off of the link I posted.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 08:13 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/13vq1f/id_rather_not_draw_attention_to_this_but_im/ It's known about, and mostly dismissed out of hand by the users here it seems.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 08:05 PM
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This is something I've brought up in my mind time and again about both Men's Rights and Atheism. When someone has to spread lies and misinformation about you, they're scared. Problem is, are we penetrating into the real world, or only into the Internet?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 07:36 PM
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Yeah, but that never happens because it's a contradiction, so you don't need to think about it too hard.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:50 PM
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Yeah, I don't think I saw one positive comment there. And as for straight raping straight... Prison, anyone? Seriously, it's so freakin' hard to believe that people actually seriously think like this.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:11 PM
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The flip-side I've heard to that is that women are likely to negotiate more than men when it's made known that the wages are negotiable. I don't know if it says that in this document though.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:25 PM
2

Well, one study that I know of is the CONSAD report done in 2007 (ish?) that concluded that all else being equal (minus some things that they may have missed), they concluded an "unexplained" gap of 5-7 percent. I've been pointed to a criticism of the study, which I'll explain briefly: The first point was that the study also includes part-time work, where most pay gap studies only consider full-time work (note: women are more likely to get paid more for part-time work than men. Funny isn't it?).…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 05:18 AM
1

Ah, noted.
/r/MensRights27/11/12 02:58 AM
1

Original? I've seen this image months ago. Care to elaborate?
/r/MensRights27/11/12 01:37 AM
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The term used around here is "legal paternal surrender," and it's certainly a focal point for some of the MRAs here.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:52 PM
5

Wow, without the context here, I would default to thinking this is a Poe. I think you'll be okay as long as people read that post and don't hear about it second-hand. You were being pretty level-headed about it and got attacked for holding a differing opinion. I might suggest getting a collection of bookmarks ready for future conversations to try and support what you're saying. It'll at least make it harder to just dismiss you out of hand.
/r/MensRights26/11/12 06:16 PM
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You said "misogyny" and quoted a block of text that specifically was talking about a group of women, not all women. I'm not disagreeing with your message, just the word used.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:49 PM
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Not necessarily, if that's just Methaxetamine's view on feminists, not women in general. It is certainly uncalled for, though.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 08:43 PM
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No problem. Well, education is always another option. Bring up stats, try and explain the trauma, that kind of thing.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 11:04 PM
9

Your handwriting recognition is horrible, I guess. "How can a girl rape a boy?" - Nearly everyone I tried to tell for the first four years after it happened. "Man up" - My then-fiance in response to the panic attack I was having caused by seeing my rapist for the first time since the incident had occurred eight years previous. Edit: So I skipped a word. I'm surprised I didn't make a more egregious error, actually.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 10:53 PM
1

A very refreshing article. The only thing I can really complain about is the last few paragraphs which would have been a prime place to mention that men can be raped too.
/r/MensRights23/11/12 02:05 PM
14

What I'm interested in knowing is why ableism is even tangentially related to the MRM/feminism. Also, when did "feminism" become synonymous with "women?" /rhetorical question
/r/MensRights22/11/12 08:38 PM
3

Agreed. It gives an "everyman" perspective of wages though, which can be a bit of a useful measure of relative wealth.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 08:04 PM
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The pay gap is typically cited as a median number, not a mean number, so the very low wages at the bottom and the very large wages at the top don't really matter as far as the actual values go, just the number of more successful people vs unsuccessful people.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 07:46 PM
3

So I always thought Forbes was like a men's magazine by nature. If anything, over the last week or two I've certainly shed that assumption.
/r/MensRights22/11/12 02:01 AM
1

Your post didn't disobey any rules. The full text of the rule is up top in the blue box.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 07:04 PM
1

/r/politics has 2,139,570 readers. I think you're confusing "or" with "and"
/r/MensRights21/11/12 07:02 PM
3

That's weird, because it's literally the top comment -- or did you mean the other post in /mr?
/r/MensRights21/11/12 04:44 PM
4

Already mentioned here
/r/MensRights21/11/12 04:02 PM
6

This is... a strange commercial. I mean, I support the message, but... Conflicted about the delivery.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:19 AM
2

If I were a manager, I'd try and practice constructive criticism; try my best to find things to single out and encourage, while at the same time giving direction for improvement. That, and I think I'd have to try damned hard to remember to praise good work when it comes in. My manager every once in a while takes the time to thank me for my work, and it really does help. Put-downs are not encouraging for sure.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:16 AM
2

But if you don't, and don't mind screwing over other men, I guess the safest type of sex you can have is with a married woman. If that doesn't illustrate a problem with our current setup I don't know what would.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 06:07 AM
4

Kinda seems like they were promoting clear-headed caution when it comes to potentially dangerous things. It'd be better if they focused on workplace accidents, I think, but hey, it's at least slightly positive attention.
/r/MensRights21/11/12 05:55 AM
5

I think that if effective, reversible male birth control is ever in wide circulation, the number of LPS posts will go down drastically. When men are backed into a corner as a result of lopsided options and responsibilities (ie once a man comes, that's the last action he's allowed to take), it's only logical that some are going to talk about it.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 07:42 PM
3

Celebrating. I can say that we need something we already have.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 03:17 PM
5

...increasing impact that this deadly epidemic is having on women and girls in the United States. This is the time when we ask individuals and organizations across the country to bring attention to this epidemic and to take action to prevent the spread of this disease. Only when it starts to really affect women, okay. Also, not one mention of men or boys in either the linked article or here. I get that this is the women's day so why talk about men, but Link to the page where you talk about the c…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:40 PM
2

And why not arrange for men to get little chunks of their penises chopped off wherever women face genital mutilation? Sighed and closed the article.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:17 PM
3

I'll give it to you for posting something challenging the boundaries of what's acceptable for men to do, but that wasn't the point of the article at all; he was modeling for his granddaughter; it didn't mention in the article at all (that I'm aware of) that he wears them on a regular basis.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 02:27 AM
5

What I've read in some quick google searches is that men attempt suicide to end their lives, women attempt suicide as a plea for help (or however else you want to spin that). So I guess according to this quick google search, for every three men that commit suicide, one woman commits suicide, twenty men attempt and fail to commit suicide, and 60 women attempt and fail to commit suicide. One source: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-624-x/2012001/article/11696-eng.htm That's something that I've neve…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 12:23 AM
1

Yeah, my comment was that "articles" like this give the impression that the writers said "haha IMD that's like every day isn't it? Let's make a list making fun of men" as opposed to actually reading up on the day, the issues brought up by the day, and making an informed, responsible article discussing it. Which is, in my mind, analogous to hearing "breast cancer awareness month" and thinking that breasts were inflicting cancer on people.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 11:12 PM
6

Well, it IS very disturbing.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 10:05 PM
1

I wish people would actually read the IMD site before posting anything about it. I mean, I might as well start posting next October about how terrible it is that breasts have a weaponized strain of cancer; it's biological warfare, and they should be stopped from spreading it to the poor people of the world.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 09:57 PM
5

Poe's law: this is not outside of the expectations of the people posting, which I think says as much as the posts themselves.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 08:48 PM
6

I sent them an e-mail. As little as I think it will actually do, I would encourage you to do the same: Hello White Ribbon Campaign, I'm writing to ask why it is that you feel the need to focus your efforts on domestic violence specifically against women. Your Campaign page link does briefly touch on violence against men, but in a dismissive manner. I will argue that direct violence against men is not as lethal, but it can certainly be as extensive or more than violence against women. For referen…
/r/MensRights19/11/12 08:42 PM
1

Bravo, that's a better message than what I could have written.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 08:15 PM
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AskMen is small enough that linking to this thread is against the policy of this subreddit. You should probably remove it (only for that reason) and repost tomorrow. Edit: Rule itself
/r/MensRights19/11/12 07:17 PM
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Not sure if sarcastic or serious.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 02:55 PM
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Yeah, there's always a time when yes, your inhibitions are lowered, but you're still lucid and capable of being rational. Let me tell you, some of my friends in university were still sharp as a tack while drunk. That being said, they've also made some bad decisions while drunk, seemingly tossing that capacity for reason aside. With that in mind, it's tough for me to say one way or the other who should determine how drunk someone is.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 02:52 PM
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International Men's Day (this year) is all about celebrating positive male role models, so be sure to take to your favourite social media platform and share a story or two about the male role models that have had the most positive effect on your lives. Not only will you be giving them tribute, you'll be spreading the word. Sounds like a win-win to me.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 01:50 PM
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I do remember that no character is shown as being perfect in Korra, and those exaggerated faces are common to every character, but I will agree that they toned up the girl power message in Korra. The original series is great, strong, well-developed characters on all sides, and while it does play into the physical male injury comedy trope sometimes, it didn't cast either sex into an overly negative light.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 03:36 AM
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Ah. Less encouraging, then. Still, I think my "seriously concerned" level would start at around a thousand.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 03:07 PM
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You can have him suggest that he use this if he's in the states: http://travel.state.gov/abduction/prevention/passportissuance/passportissuance_554.html And yeah, if the law is on his side, I'd encourage him to use it. One parent's love life should not be pursued to the detriment of the kids.
/r/MensRights18/11/12 03:27 AM
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The subject of objectification has always confused me at least a little bit. While I totally agree with your definition of objectification here, there's something more to it, and I think context comes into play here. With Samus, for instance, there may be less of a case to say she's being objectified in her zero suit, as [backstory blah blah]. However, take an unnamed and unknown woman in a similar outfit acting like an actor, not an object. The typical argument I've seen feminists use is that n…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 03:21 AM
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I'm not sure you're looking at this in the same way. If I find a picture of Samus Aran fighting while looking sexy (particularly while in the zero suit), your argument doesn't work, but she's still potentially being objectified. She's being an actor in the context of the image, but the image itself is still treating her as an object in the same way a similar image of buff guy could be doing it. That being said, I've heard that particularly among women geeks, people like Nightcrawler and Gambit a…
/r/MensRights18/11/12 02:46 AM
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Indeed. With things like this, I feel like we're making mountains out of molehills. There may occasionally be posts where the person who the act was performed on comes on and makes a post, and THOSE are the reactions we should be paying attention to. If they didn't want it, then it's a problem. Consensual, kinky things like this can be a sign of a healthy relationship, not a troubled one.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 10:42 PM
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If a man ignoring a woman's verbal 'no' is committing date rape, then a woman who says `no' with her verbal language but 'yes' with her body language is committing date fraud. And a woman who continues to be sexual even after she says 'no' is committing date lying We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting. Which is, to be fair, a valid point. The feigned "no" or "stop" in spite of wanting to continue is specifically what he's talking abou…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 10:10 PM
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Well, thankfully there was a crowd of only what, twenty, thirty people at most there? Out of a city of a few million people, that is a very small ratio of crazy to sane.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 08:06 PM
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"People talking about men's rights and police letting the talk actually happen makes me scared for my safety."
/r/MensRights17/11/12 06:52 PM
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Well, remove the genders here; a combination of plea bargains on both sides gives the prosecutors a huge win, and the offspring of the person ultimately jailed gets to have a bit more of a life. Plea Bargains/whatever it's called when someone gets a reduced sentence for aiding in another case like Hendy are a part of the legal system. Not a great part of it, but nevertheless... Edit: I've just read your other replies, btw
/r/MensRights17/11/12 04:12 PM
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It IS rather interesting to see special interest groups put on the blinders like this at times though, especially when challenged. It's a nice exercise in psychology.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:34 AM
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I notice that they're not considering the company either. Salaries do tend to be normalized within a sector, but I'm pretty sure that a Google or SAP will pay more out of the gate than the software arm of a manufacturing company, for instance. I wonder if the unaccounted-for gap is because in more tech-heavy industries, there are going to be less women, therefore a smaller number of whom could be incredibly competent, therefore a smaller number of whom are hired into the more prestigious compani…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:32 AM
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they have never called a male unqualified, not bright, not trustworthy They have never heard republicans talking about their president, then. I wonder if that'd be a good political strategy though. Appoint women to public-facing roles, use outrage like this to deflect criticism. Hmm.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:21 AM
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I was planning on going to the Guelph talk. Are you in a position to know if that talk was cancelled due to a similar situation?
/r/MensRights17/11/12 05:11 AM
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I don't know if you posted this here to get sympathy, or get a circle-jerk of hatred going against SRS, or whatever else, but: This may/may not violate the policy of not linking to SRS The link you did submit to SRS seems to indicate that you either agree with the assessment that simply being white and male means that in any time period ever, you'd be doing great, or that you didn't like MR talking about how that example of "cis white male privilege" doesn't actually work. In any case, I smell t…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 08:24 PM
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And I didn't post it with the intent of being serious, I just thought it was amusing and figured this would be the best place to share the thought.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:54 PM
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Oh, I agree. The only reason I even know these things exist is because of the people I follow on Twitter occasionally posts when one of those goes up.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:52 PM
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I'm mostly centrist, though I lean to the left and libertarian sides a bit. I've found myself in your situation a bit as well, where I'm being exposed to people saying "here's how we help men, let's [something I've never subscribed to in my life]." I've come to learn, especially in the past few months, that a label like "republican" or "democrat" does not adequately describe at least a good segment of the people here. I agree a ton with the democrat position of trying to establish a livable base…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:48 PM
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This is a good point, but from what I understand, Watson runs Skepchick, and would thus have more than enough control over the content posted on the site. Thankfully, I didn't actually say that she posted those updates though :D
/r/MensRights16/11/12 04:34 PM
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Furthermore, you can attribute a lot of those attitudes toward men to Feminism as well, especially when you start tilting toward radfem.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:16 PM
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Uh, you, um... You're missing, I don't know how to tell you this... You're not doing the whole moustache thing correctly. Also, you've made your face lopsided. That can't be good for your neck, having to constantly counteract that, and all. A message from Taco Bell, eh? I guess I have a slight sliver of respect for them, then.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 03:04 AM
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Yeah, I can probably find just as many examples of men screwing men over as women screwing men over. Institutional "man hating" has to be passed through by the government, after all, who are mostly male (at least for now)
/r/MensRights16/11/12 01:13 AM
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Reverse the infinite "why" chain! Genius!
/r/MensRights15/11/12 07:32 PM
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So basically your teacher just up and gave your friend perfect on a test that she did not fully complete. There's little to no context to indicate if this is because she's a girl or because the teacher likes her, or some other reason you don't know about. I would suggest just bringing it up with your teacher, don't be confrontational about it, and just try to stress you're trying to make sure that she's treating everyone fairly.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 07:28 PM
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Were the extra credits/points harder to get or worth more points? (As it's obvious there was a method to get more than perfect) Did you compare notes to see where you each lost points/how many points you got for your essays? It may just be that the teacher at least likes her writing style more than yours.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 07:15 PM
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I meant "a group in the community," though F4J might qualify. The point was that I don't know how hard it would be to get WLU to accept any sort of on-campus group. Look back to how hard the Laurier Freethought Alliance had to fight to get accepted, and how much outside attention had to be drawn to the campus before WLU caved, and you can get some idea of how hard it might be to work toward a Men's Rights group.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 06:19 PM
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My immediate response to that would be to see what they did in October. If there were any month-long activities or dress themes or anything, then I'd still be saying the same thing.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:58 PM
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Agreed. I'd like to think we can get past sensationalist titles and address the subject of the article itself though. That's all I was driving toward.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:56 PM
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Sentence 1 was a direct response to "this isn't only a boy vs girl thing, it's that only one boy can do this." The rest of the response was a direct response to "people didn't read the article, but I did, and... meh, no big deal" -- at least that's the tone I was getting from the responses.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:54 PM
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Good thing Movember doesn't require beards!
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:37 PM
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In that same vein of thinking, talent shows should never be allowed because it lets kids publicly participate in an activity that not many children would be able to join in on. I did read the entire article and I still came out of it with an impression of: "this kid wants to participate in a charity event that other kids cannot. In spite of the fact that this will only be tangentially related to the school (ie one kid having some facial hair for a month), we're going to disallow it." Why not ins…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 02:36 PM
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It descriminates against amputees That discriminates against Terry Fox!
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:44 PM
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This is at least a little confusing to me. The school seems to be of the mind that it will somehow be facilitating the fundraising event, where in reality Movember is collecting donations and having people fill out a form, or giving them a card to your mo space so they can donate. Perhaps there's something unsaid here, like he was specifically raising money for only Prostate Cancer UK and that'd mean that there'd need to be a supervised, proper collection system that the school would need to adm…
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:40 PM
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I'm in the area, and I have not heard of anything on either the WLU or UW campus relating to a men's rights or issues awareness group. It looks like Fathers For Justice has an office in Waterloo, but beyond that... I would suggest trying to start such a group, but I think that especially with this kind of subject matter, it might be better to have a community group first that can support the club/society effort and put pressure on WLU to accept it.
/r/MensRights15/11/12 01:39 AM
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There's a fine line between revenge and abuse. This blog seems to have left that line in the dust a long time ago.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:57 PM
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How does hard rock blend with the issues MRAs talk about? I can see the usefulness of a rock band generating a meme of Men's Rights Awareness, though I'm struggling to see how it could make for compelling songs. At least hard rock ones, that is.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 06:13 PM
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I applaud you! When I put my MRA hat on though, I struggle to see how you can use this to advance frontiers or change thinking instead of just being "that weird kid." I guess it's just gotta be something that people start seeing more often and get used to it, kind of like women wearing traditionally male clothes.
/r/MensRights13/11/12 03:03 AM
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Physically inferior to men, mostly. Inferior in the ability to act freely with less negative consequences. I don't know many people who would insist that the POTUS is inferior to a SS agent except in the areas of intelligence gathering, combat, and situational awareness (and perhaps a few more). Furthermore, inferior or not, they're given more importance and reverence necessitating the protection; in order to remove some stigma surrounding insisting women gain some agency (ie being okay with peo…
/r/MensRights12/11/12 03:40 AM
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To be fair, you've got to take it a step further, which is not hard to do at all in some minds, to have anger at feminism = hatred of feminism = hatred of women = misogyny or anger at feminism = anger at women = hatred of women = misogyny I don't know how effective any effort to remove step 2/3 in those examples can be, but I think that teaching the layperson that anger != hatred will help solidify our footing a lot. Feminists are always going to equate anger to hatred because it advances their …
/r/MensRights10/11/12 02:06 PM
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fixing the gender wage gap ... (the idea "[s]He's at fault b/c [s]he chose this This is literally the reason for the wage gap, btw.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 02:01 PM
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Short answer: The Patriarchy. Boom, world rocked. Long answer: There's not really many male privilege left if there was really any to begin with. Most of the things that feminists list as male privilege more seem to be as "niceties" for lack of a better word. Being more physically able is not something that anyone gives you, it's a matter of nature. Being more likely to rise through the ranks of a company, even with kids, when compared to a woman with kids may be a privilege granted to him by hi…
/r/MensRights10/11/12 07:02 AM
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"Honey, we've had a hard life and you'll have to work multiple jobs to put yourself through college/university because I didn't save a penny of your child support, but look at all the stuff I bought for myself with it!"
/r/MensRights10/11/12 06:56 AM
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Correct, sir (or madam?). This is the episode in Community where the mock trial is held due to the squashed yam. The guy in the background there is... Todd, the guy with the turtle. Annie does ask questions kind of like this as well, but it's far from a quote. /Community Nerd
/r/MensRights10/11/12 06:54 AM
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In Australia, it now also means "entrenched prejudice against women." It's sometimes important to play using their weapons, so they don't get to dictate things like this.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 03:28 PM
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Tip: Link to relevant conversation at least. I get the distinct impression that nothing SRS does is important, and if you never planned to spend any time there, then there's no issue. SRS is in very serious denial about the possibility of Misandry/Men's Rights being legitimate. The reason you got noticed in the first place is because the thread you posted in is currently at the top of SRS right now. edit: I accidentally a word
/r/MensRights08/11/12 04:01 AM
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I saw this extended reaction toward Alyx Vance from a feminist group once; they criticized her outfit, and the fact that a fan had once increased the size of her ass and chest in a render he did of her. There will always be something to complain about.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 08:23 PM
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If you let gendered insults get to you, they'll be more likely to be used against you. It's as simple as that. If you can't take the nature of that community, then you just don't belong in that community.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 06:46 PM
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Ugh, sites that spend one entire page listing one single item. Too annoying; did not read.
/r/MensRights06/11/12 02:19 AM
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The comment thread for that video makes my everything hurt
/r/MensRights05/11/12 05:26 PM
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No, that was a given. I was just wondering which aspect of the story prompted you to post it and point out the /s privlege
/r/MensRights05/11/12 12:46 PM
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The (what seems to be) fact that he didn't just jump on disability and insurance and ride out the rest of his life? Or the privilege to be working in an industry where this kind of this can happen in the first place?
/r/MensRights05/11/12 05:05 AM
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If you're assumed to be the father at that point, I wonder what suing for custody would amount to.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 03:06 AM
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Well, I'd suggest starting by pointing it out when it happens to the people there/manager on site, and it that doesn't work, send a letter off to the company itself. Change-room policies like this aren't a problem with the company itself, it's indicative of society's views. If you can't change the mind of this company, then there's not much else you can do on that front right now.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 10:20 PM
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nvm found it, it's been deleted http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/12mbji/she_says_i_raped_her/
/r/MensRights04/11/12 09:32 PM
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Link?
/r/MensRights04/11/12 09:29 PM
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An umbilical cord is useful up until the birth, and after that, it withers away. Not a fair comparison at all. I am circumcised, but I'll still rally against the procedure, so it's not just uncut men lording it over the rest of us. A good litmus test is always to find something comprable in the other sex, and see what your reaction is there. If we had a normalized procedure in which the clitoris of young girls was chopped off, would you still have this attitude? The vagina still works, she can s…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 07:25 PM
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It's what happens when you try and group people together with almost literally nothing in common from the outset (just "we don't believe in this thing"); something has to be built for them to rally around.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 06:20 PM
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I think your main task here is demonstrating how simply seeing a penis is somehow damaging for a young girl (or conversely, how seeing a vagina is damaging to a young boy).
/r/MensRights04/11/12 05:15 PM
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Then you have an option: don't expose her to the world, or go somewhere transgendered people aren't allowed. There's not much difference here in my mind than seeing gay people in public, amputees, people with visible mental illnesses... All of which she'll encounter in public. Also, there's a huge difference between getting changed and displaying.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 04:53 PM
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That's something I've never gotten. It's not that "this is a man who is trying to prey on little girls" it's "oh no my sensitive eyes/I may have to explain to my children what transgendered means!" All of that pronoun mixing (Colleen probably doesn't like being called "him"), and all of the outrage surrounding simply SEEING A PENIS is... ugh.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 02:45 PM
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Something like this, I assume
/r/MensRights04/11/12 01:49 PM
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No, the more I read about Feminism, the more I'm learning that it's pretty much a religion. The behavior patterns, no-true-scottsman-isms, attacking and being dominant while at the same time being victims and persecuted... I'm sure that you could write many academic papers on the parallels.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 01:34 PM
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I agree with you, which is why I said There's little to no market for... whatever games people like those in /r/girlgamers would like to see. What I was trying to say is that I don't see why the entire industry needs to shift, as it seems there's been an effort to make it do just that, if anything it means that new IPs or companies can be created to serve that market whenever it does emerge, if at all.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 01:27 PM
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To this subreddit's credit, the community is sometimes harsh with dissenting comments, but hardly ever to the point where they openly seek to close communication. I was actually thinking about the video game industry recently. There are stats that 40%+ of gamers are women, though that ignores that women are commonly clustered around casual gaming. All of the talk about women being given unfair treatment in video games is ignoring one huge argument, I think: There's little to no market for... wha…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:48 AM
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Makes me wish the quality of the videos were a bit better, because exposing the one-sided thinking of initiatives like this and how they leave boys in the dust can be powerful.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 02:52 AM
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There's been some discussion in this subreddit on this already, see this
/r/MensRights04/11/12 02:31 AM
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Why, then, do women like Laren Oyler consider it "selfish and cowardly" when someone does not want to be labelled a feminist? Probably because as a term becomes more encompassing and nebulous, it's harder to attack, and any initiative on behalf of that term looks stronger.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 07:59 PM
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I'm hesitant to really tie my location down, but there's enough info on me out there that it probably won't matter. The group was the Laurier Freethought Alliance, out of Wilfred Laurier University in Waterloo. Mind you, looking back I've inflated the words used a bit. The group was presented by the university as an anti-religious group (which I might call a hate group by some standards), where its stated goal was simply promoting life without religion. (This is getting off-topic though)
/r/MensRights03/11/12 05:56 PM
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Okay, so looking at the link, there is nothing preventing a rapist from suing for custody in 31 states, true. How seriously do you think those requests are going to be taken in the scary stranger rape case? I think it's also important to point out that this is not a law for, it's a lack of a law against. A law doesn't have to be on the books for a judge to be told the circumstances of the conception and decide that the rapist is not a fit father. Now, here's something to whet your whistle: there…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:45 PM
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It's a similar situation in Atheism; at the moment, there's just too much stigma surrounding, in this case, admitting that men need help sometimes.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 04:12 PM
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True, true, but at least in my university, recognized clubs/societies got some perks, like priority room bookings, funding, ability to advertise in high-traffic areas, that kind of thing. By not recognizing an Atheist club, or a Men's Issues Awareness Society in this case, a university clearly tells its students what it thinks is important, or where its biases are.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:11 PM
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Nope, in good old Ontario.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:07 PM
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That is some levels of awesome, let me tell you.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:40 AM
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Yeah, I just gave in and bought a ticket for the Guelph talk. But wow, good on U of T to have that. A local university got in trouble a while ago for trying to start an Atheist club (it was deemed a "hate club") so I've pretty much dismissed the possibility of a men version of the womens' center.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 03:37 AM
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I'd suggest editing your original post to include a link to an image of the banner or the website where the claim is made. That being said, at first blush, I'd say this claim is baseless, and the figure includes things like mutual drunken sex, spousal sex where the wife later claims rape during divorce, things like that. If there's one thing I've learned in my time in the MRM so far, it's NEVER take a statistic at face value. Someone's almost always cooking the numbers for more funding or contro…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:32 AM
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You accidentally your link
/r/MensRights03/11/12 02:23 AM
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Bawh, for a second I thought these kids were standing up for MR, but they're just parroting feminist talking points.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:37 PM
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Okay, so I've had this thread open for a while and I've been watching it. What exactly are you looking for here, sources or people to actually write sections? I don't consider myself informed enough to do the latter, but I think I could help with editing.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:30 PM
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I think the point was that this was something OP heard in real life and either found a QM that said the same thing or made one themselves.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:08 PM
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I'll provide that upvote if someone can do mine for me.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 04:02 PM
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Which raises the question, does asking people to do something as silly as grow hair trivialize the real, scary issues the Movember movement is trying to elevate? Does doing something as silly as using pink flags in an NFL game trivialize the real, scary issues the Breast Cancer Awareness folks are trying to elevate? See? I can say stupid stuff too. Also, I wonder if she was saying this kind of stuff during Breast Cancer Awareness Month.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 02:25 PM
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You know, I'm beginning to sympathize with fathers who just walk away from a family or child. Time after time, it's re-enforced that they're useless, unneeded, and don't matter. Actions like this probably only increase single-child households. This has really got to be the top priority. Get familes back together, put the value of a father back in the public eye.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 01:14 PM
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You'd think that the father could make a reasonable case that at least the child is being regularly exposed to an unsafe environment.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 12:52 PM
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One blue string... Interesting idea, and certainly a conversation starter.
/r/MensRights02/11/12 02:26 AM
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Is it wrong that I heard coworker #1's dialog entirely in fry tones?
/r/MensRights01/11/12 11:10 PM
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Mostly it was said in the same breath as critiquing clothes and personality, so while I didn't say it's a major determining factor, it's at least a factor.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 08:10 PM
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It's at least a little sad that we need to make a spectacle out of it before anyone notices.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 06:56 PM
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They'd probably spend the entire broadcast talking about DV, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 04:48 PM
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Psh, REAL thanksgiving happened last month. That being said, I do have a little extra money floating around that I could use to help out. Good idea; it's always important to nudge a little to get the activism/philanthropy flowing.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 02:34 PM
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I can't say that the size of another man's penis has really factored into my day-to-day. Makes me wonder if this is at least a bit of a projection thing, since I have been around women who have judged other women based on breast size (at least partially).
/r/MensRights01/11/12 01:36 PM
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The funny thing is that he/she was literally just trying to make an arrow in the knee joke. Like I'd bet money on the fact that's all he/she was trying to do.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 03:20 AM
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Slow clap
/r/MensRights01/11/12 02:50 AM
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Deepest regrets. Thankfully for all of us, it seems as if you're in a position where you can help prevent tragedies like this in the future.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 07:51 PM
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Well, the way I see it, there are two sides to approach this on: The justice side, which is what the main point of putting this up here seems to be and The damage due to false accusation side, which I think we should be just as compassionate about. I'm just expressing relief that it at least (may) not have cost a man's life in the process of punishing (if you can call it that) a false rape accuser. Edit: I accidentally formatting.
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:29 PM
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I wasn't able to see any indication that the story of the initial report was publicized, so at least the guy's reputation in the larger community may not have been damaged (much).
/r/MensRights31/10/12 01:10 PM
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It is not necessary for a parent to have any custodial rights to the child in order to request that the child be entered in CPIAP. So long as a parent has not had his/her rights terminated by a court of competent jurisdiction, he/she can request that the child be entered into CPIAP. Wow, that's actually incredibly gender neutral and could be a very useful tool, though given the size of the US, simply moving to the opposite coast is more than enough to do pretty much this.
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:15 PM
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I would argue that efforts should stop once it is time for a person to stand on their own two feet (ie apply for and get a job in this case). At the moment, I think that enough, or perhaps more than enough is being done to encourage women to enter "male" fields such as math, engineering, programming, etc. Taking a quick look at the gendered camps and groups in schools should make the case for me, I'd hope. And to address the influences point, I have heard that girls tend to not focus on engineer…
/r/MensRights30/10/12 12:25 AM
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Personally, I don't like Affirmative Action; I may have some biases in my day-to-day, but I know that when I put my business/leader hat on, I am to my best effort neutral and unbiased. In that frame of mind, I look at AA as an effort to work toward a potentially hollow goal at the cost of productivity or quality. If I have to choose between person A and B, and person A is better, I will choose person A. If I'm forced to choose person B for any reason, I have acted fraudulently in my mind. Men an…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 11:46 PM
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I don't necessarily think that in this case, it'd be a MR thing, more a Female Rights thing, since the genesis of that restriction is probably the combination of female neoteny and hypoagency. Basically, women are seen as more pure and innocent by default, so while the bar may be +x for men and +x for women on the sexual impurity scale, women started lower. Basically, while I agree that if this was happening it's probably something that should be corrected, it more belongs on a women's rights gr…
/r/MensRights29/10/12 11:20 PM
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Strictly within the realm of Linux conference safety issues, Ted makes some very relevant points, it seems. Basically "why are we making a big deal of this; stranger rape is so infrequent that the chance of it happening at one of our conferences is so small that we shouldn't be freaking out about it." Plus, the view that mutually drunk sex shouldn't be taken into account in talks of rape, which may or may not be debatable. Don't necessarily see what this has to do with MR, though.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 11:13 PM
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Agreed. It'd probably be better to make a subreddit/tumblr/something dedicated to these everyday travesties than dedicating /MR to it.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 08:41 PM
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manwomanmyth gives one perspective, but the suggestion there is that feminism has never been truly "good" - take a look for yourself: mwm - feminism
/r/MensRights29/10/12 07:12 PM
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Too bad this won't be a post on a blog somewhere, since it is against the law to report when /r/MR is being reasonable and not reactionary.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 05:12 PM
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This thread does not seem to be... real. Account made two minutes before post, for instance. In any case, MR isn't about shutting anyone up, it's about understanding our differences and playing on a level field. Also, you may be conflating feminism with women, which is something that should be avoided whenever possible.
/r/MensRights29/10/12 04:49 PM
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For the record, the thing I said was "strange" was following someone he thought he knew without actually saying anything to them, then turning around and walking away when confronted. I'd think that was strange no matter who did it.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 04:02 PM
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Apparently in the first case he gave a woman a bear hug, realized he didn't know her, apologized, and left. Clearly the guy's behavior was strange (instead of actually calling out to someone he thinks he knows, he follows them halfway up a staircase and has to be confronted to actually ask if he knows the woman). Arrest-worthy? Probably not.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:59 PM
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Seems to me like this is a justified arrest on both counts.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 02:55 PM
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50k just as I clicked on the comment thread here. Congrats all.
/r/MensRights26/10/12 01:43 AM
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Okay, I haven't seen anyone attempting to address the challenge you posted. I'm not the best person to answer it by a long shot, but I'll see what I think should at minimum be done in the field of reproduction/fatherhood. First, I think you're dealing with a false dichotomy here: both redproductive rights and parental rights can be expanded for men without necessarily being unreasonable on the other. Let's first address reproductive rights. Both men and women have safe, mostly effective, and eas…
/r/MensRights26/10/12 12:29 AM
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Huh. I guess I have some reading to do. I still don't necessarily see how going back on birth control options is a bad thing. The pill gives women a disproportionate amount of control and options, but I wouldn't suggest at all that it should be eliminated.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:51 PM
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Okay, so I haven't done much/any reading into abortion without at least a slightly liberal feminist attitude colouring my perception (ie blue pill reading). I don't think I've ever heard that a majority of women don't support abortion.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:37 PM
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I'm just going to leave it at this: My view is that the decisions of one person should not have an adverse affect on three people, two of which are being forced without choice into that situation. Single mother Father paying for child he may never see (by his choice or otherwise) Child in a single-parent household, who is more likely to be a societal problem later in life (Actually, now that I've said that:) Society at large The above all suffer, emotionally, financially, quality-of-life...ly...…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 05:07 PM
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It's more of a frustration, I think, of people not seeing something that they've understood for so long. You've hit on something said by MRAs a lot: "a forced equality of outcome is not equality." I can just as easily use this to say that one person being forced to take an action based on the choice of another is a forced equality of outcome, while excusing an inequality of responsibility. In this case, women being excused for choosing to have a child, unwanted by at least one of the parents. Th…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 03:06 PM
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I don't know if this was an accusation against myself or people who may take this particular case as an encouragement of rape, though just in case I'm going to assume the former: I don't take Quagmire's actions as any sort of encouragement. Daysleepin asked for Quagmire-related sex jokes on the show, the discussion up to this point was "Family Guy supports rape culture" (I'm extrapolating from what OP's said about the lecture here), so I gave an example, but left that disclaimer you partially qu…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 02:05 PM
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Well, probably as long as they don't buy into patriarchy theory as well, since that's also inherently anti-man.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 09:50 PM
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I'm going through something potentially similar right now having recently started researching the world from the perspective of an MRA. My guess is that the initial culture and perspective shock will wear off eventually and we'll be able to function normally again. Perhaps a bit more guarded and skeptical, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 05:15 PM
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One that comes up right away is the episode where Stewie joins the cheerleading squad in an attempt to understand their power over crowds and use it to make people kill themselves. He ends up tying the head cheerleader up and dumping her in a bathroom stall, and Quagmire finds her bound and gagged, and says "Dear Diary: Jackpot." Which is pretty much an example of rape being insinuated, or at the very least a reference to bondage and voyeurism. I'm thinking the writers were going for the former.…
/r/MensRights24/10/12 05:12 PM
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Depends on which feminist you talk to. The radfems for instance certainly don't fight for everyone, and if they say they do, they're lying through their teeth.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 01:28 PM
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For what it's worth, you did seem to touch at least superficially a few people, and that seed of inequality can be powerful. Parental rights are what really got me interested in the MRM, perhaps people who have been programmed to react so much to rape can look at the 1.2 vs 1.3 numbers and realize that this is an issue that matters to men as well, and in fact perhaps matters more because of how little attention it gets. Attention is attention, and I applaud you for speaking as you did.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 02:32 AM
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Call him a caveman, then touch him on the penis.
/r/MensRights24/10/12 12:03 AM
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He's at least a fairly well known person drawing attention to the issues at times; I stumbled onto the MRM proper thanks to one of those videos.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 04:07 PM
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It's at least a little confusing that the message of the article seems to shift between "I was given this job as an effort to meet a diversity quota" and "I worked hard and had to pass artificial barriers because I'm a woman." I can see how the two aren't mutually exclusive (ie she had to fight to get to that point, but feels that there are more qualified justices/she wasn't at the level she thinks deserving of a nomination), but the dissonance is at least confusing here. Compressed into such a …
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:46 PM
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I agree with Erasmus, but not to the same degree; sexual deviancy/rape/statutory rape is always going to be around most likely, so it would be I think more useful to have a comparison to the baseline of that region at that time (ie are you more or less likely to be sexually assaulted in the boy scouts than in general society). That being said, yes, "terrifying" is pretty much the word I'd use for all of those dots.
/r/MensRights23/10/12 04:07 AM
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