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Mine is like 20k so I think there’s a large difference there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:08 PM
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Not only that, but I have friends who have been raped or sexually assaulted and the university tells us that they cannot expel them, not because the situation didn’t happen, but because it doesn’t qualify as severe enough for being marked as something career ruining.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 07:02 PM
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My point is that you will not be great at sex the first time you have it. You will be mediocre at best. With practice and communication you can become very good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:53 PM
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The person below already answered. But also for the depression part, depression is considered a disability.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 06:50 PM
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They do not agree with you lmao. Additionally, we work more hours than ever before. We are more isolated than ever before. We do not make an amount of money that coincides with inflation. Just because we’re not in WWII does not mean there are not ongoing wars in a lot of the world consistently. Imagine hearing that someone gets a disability and your reaction is to call them sensitive. That’s pretty wild my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:37 PM
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Idk I think my experience is probably relatively normal of a large university.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:35 PM
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They ask them out or they tell me they’re interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:11 PM
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Humanity is less sensitive now than it was before. You’re just upset that we no longer find edgy humor funny. Also I’m glad you’re a climate scientist and have the authority to disagree with every professional about the severity of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:10 PM
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If you’ve ever wondered what you can do to get a girlfriend, having your opinions correlate with reality would be a good start. Also I actually knew people that died of COVID. Plus, I’m immunocompromised and it nearly landed me in the hospital. You must be so funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 02:04 PM
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Idk I think im in a very diverse friend group. My friends are also mainly virgins god bless 🫡 doesn’t change the fact that people are interested in them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:26 PM
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They only vote men below average if they have feminine wrists and ask to fist you on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:25 PM
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Bro in my university average ass men that just know how to have a conversation have 4 to 5 women interested in them at any given moment. It’s honestly sad. People from prior generations would’ve been fine in the same way people from our generation are going to be fine. We have things a bit more difficult due to social media, late stage capitalism, and climate disaster, but most people will still date before the world ends probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:32 PM
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Sounds good. If you’re not willing to help people that’s your prerogative. I am going to continue helping, volunteering, and working to make a difference in my community for the sake of it. I want to do the little I can as a minuscule thing on a rock to try to make other minuscule things suffer slightly less. Just don’t pretend you’re fooling us by saying you don’t care about anything while coming onto here and disagreeing with us hoping that someone will convince you that life is worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:57 AM
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Imagine saying that the system is bad and then going “perfect! Let’s continue it”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:45 AM
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I appreciate yours too! I genuinely have a pretty good impression of you and when discussing the fact that I go on here to talk to people you are one of the ones I refer to as having a lot of hope for 😭😭 I’m sure you’re going through a rough time, and I’m glad it seems like you have a stable support system around you. You got this 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:29 AM
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I 100% agree with you if that is your stance. I just hope you realize how by pointing out situations with women specifically people could misinterpret the point you’re trying to make. Fundamentally I disagree with you for your actual point where I think we should help both men and women. You’re right, men are viewed as objects, and they aren’t given the same ability to be viewed as people in general. The whole “12,000 dead” vs. “12,000 women and children dead” concept is a very heart wrenching o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:23 AM
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Yeah I don’t I just think you’re very jaded by society in general. I think it’s pretty concerning, and I think I also remember you and I having back and forth conversations on here over the last year. I’m pretty sure I had the same impression of you back then too. You don’t seem like a bad person. It just seems like you are centering all of your frustration into political ideologies which in turn makes you unlikable. I’m sure if you were actually faced with these situations you would help. I jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:21 AM
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I prefer it over them pretending to be interested in partners and then beating the shit out of us tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:18 AM
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Yeahhhh 😭 I’m actually at a major university in NY. The boy dorms here have a problem where they will write like “pro Tate” in sticky notes on their window so everyone can see. They’ve made comments to me about me not deserving rights, taken hair from random women to collect, spoken about how we deserve to be raped, and more. Then again my school is a STEM institution, so I guess you expect it in the same way where you expect them not to shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:18 AM
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So the random woman on the street… what did she do other than be a woman? Why did you say you wouldn’t help her? Why won’t you help the man getting attacked by a woman? Why won’t you help the woman getting attacked by a man? Helping doesn’t have to be physical. Why won’t you call someone? Why won’t you tell them to stop? Why are you salivating over the idea of her getting permanent wounds? Do you see how deranged you sound?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:15 AM
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My issue has nothing to do with sympathy. It’s that you get off on the idea of fantasizing about women getting beaten up in public. You do realize you’re weird as fuck for that, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:14 AM
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Ohh I see. I’m from a major city too, and I see a lot of references to things like Andrew Tate, and men talking about how I don’t deserve rights. However, I figured that it would be identical a couple decades ago just with different names being mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:08 AM
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For me, women or men are irrelevant in this conversation. You really enjoy the suffering of others and not helping people in public. I think that’s weird and shouldn’t be tolerated. Ofc I don’t know you. I also don’t want to know you based on how you are talking here. If a woman hit a man, I would want to intervene in that situation. I wouldn’t want it to escalate, and I would want to make sure he’s ok. I wouldn’t be like “GAHAHA GIVE IT TO HER MAKE HER BLEED LMAOOOO”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:07 AM
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That kind of reasoning is why bystander training is a requirement in most work institutions. Your reasoning here is the reason why people get killed, abducted, and suffer lifelong illnesses based on physical attacks in public. If you’re not willing to help others, don’t expect other people to like you or care about your opinions at all. Ofc everyone here is saying you’re a dick. You’re getting off on the idea of other people suffering lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 11:04 AM
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The vitriolic response and giddiness you get from the idea of women getting beaten up even if it’s “deserved” is disgusting. Once again, the concept of a social contract means you help other people. You not being willing to help others is indicative of selfishness, and I think it’s pretty gross that you would be unwilling to stop a fight regardless of who was involved. Lots of people who are assholes have friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:53 AM
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Women don’t want to start a society independent of men. All societies in human history have collapsed with the exception of the ones currently functioning today. With that in mind, it’s no surprise that some of the women only orgs you know of have failed. This doesn’t mean women are inept, incapable, or irresponsible to the point of being unable to run a community. Although, most women have zero interest in this because the vast majority of people are heterosexual and want to get married and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:49 AM
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I mean… define whore, right? If a whore is a person who has had sex before: I hope you don’t genuinely think that the first time someone will ever have sex it will be done perfectly without a learning curve. If a whore is a person who has had sex with upwards of ten people before: No one has this standard in mind? The average person does not sleep with this many people in their lifetime. You need to do something repeatedly to become good at it. You are not naturally inclined to be good at sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:44 AM
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I think it’s because we are spending time in communities where this sort of behavior is popularized. I do not see this regularly in my every day life. I do see men becoming more independent and less keen on having relationships, but I think that’s a good thing. Unfortunately as a result of the hyper capitalistic structures we have in the west, I think this is only going to lead to the working class going at each other’s throats even more. This ofc will also include men and women going at each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:42 AM
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You’re delusional. Part of living in a society is abiding by the social contract of not being a complete asshole to everyone around you. When I see a woman carrying something very heavy do you know what I do? I offer to help her. I don’t know her personal life or values. This rampant individualism where you believe you are the main character in all of life is a clear indicator of how insane social media has made people. Just don’t be a dick, hold the door open for people. Stop blaming fathers fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 10:39 AM
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No they do not. You cannot change your sexuality for fun. That is stupid. If people could change their sexuality they would simply choose to be straight to avoid discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:25 AM
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This is how you become above average. The average man does not have good hygiene, posture, does not dress well, and does not know how to communicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:51 PM
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The most attractive people to me, men or women, have been ones who have very good communication skills. I spent most of my life doing debate competitions, and I am fortunate enough to have pretty ok communication skills. That alone has made women tell me I’m their sexual awakening because no one knew how to emotionally talk to them before. I 100000% promise if you can do that and learn how to make your voice sound confident you’re incredibly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:21 PM
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Good hygiene, dressing well, good haircut and posture does wonders. Have hobbies, ambition, and show a genuine interest in the world around you. Learn how to properly communicate. Read books about it and be sure to learn about relevant communication skills so you are not out of your depth in conversation. Tbh that’s all you really need. If you pass all of this metrics you’re guaranteed to be above average not even average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:02 PM
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NO LITERALLY YOURE SO RIGHT. I just can’t fathom the whole “oh my market value went up” when if you are in your 40s or 50s it has absolutely decreased from our viewpoint 🥴 then they claim they are wealthier, but we all are poor in this generation anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:55 PM
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Because instead of competition against other individual people it is now competition against them being single and childless. People are preferring that over the potential partners they have since they’re no longer viewing relationships as something that will genuinely guarantee happiness in their lives. I’ve been routinely surprised at how the men and women in my life are disinterested in serious relationships because of the stability they feel while alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:54 PM
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LMAO bro please god tell me you’re joking. Otherwise the reason why I date women is because “men not putting out has lead women to go lesbian.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:48 PM
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I wouldn’t care at all. I’d be interested to know about the process and what compelled them to do it. As long as they are emotionally stable, content in their life, and they are safe why should I give a shit what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:46 PM
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You’re absolutely right in terms of people trying to tell me what 20 year old women want. Like I’m not a 20 year old woman. Every time I try to explain that them being 50 does not make them more attractive to me they tell me I’m lying because of some TV show they watched 30 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:46 PM
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Both things you described constitute playing hard to get. The difference is that one stems from purity culture and the other is an attempt to make someone else feel insecure. People can be very romantically devoted to you without sex. People cannot avoid speaking to you or treating you well and have that constitute romantic devotion. A lot of women push off having sex because they don’t want to be viewed negatively by the person they are interested in. That doesn’t make it a good thing, but I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:43 PM
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Since my drive is very high I would want someone compatible with myself. I’ve dated women before, and we struggled with both feeling sexually fulfilled because I wanted sex significantly more than they did. As a result, I think it’s honestly the best bet to try to find someone who wants what you want to the same extent when it comes to very important things in relationships. Sex to me wouldn’t be an exception to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:40 PM
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I’m really not interested in your personal opinion if I’m being honest. Academically it is not contested that patriarchy is something that is negative. It also isn’t contested that the cycle was initially started by men (because it literally could not have been started by women as we did not have any rights my guy). I do not believe individual men or women are bad people. However I am not interested in deluding myself that a group of people being actively harmed is equivalent to a group of peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:05 PM
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? Of course women perpetuate culture. Both men and women individually are not responsible for the systemic issues that we see take place that causes patriarchy. That doesn’t change that the group it benefits is men regardless of whether or not you want it to be and whether or not you actively do things to change it. Likewise I’m still in a position of being a woman regardless of what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:43 PM
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Women are not the oppressors. No one academically would ever entertain that sentiment at all. Yes actually it’s the fault of women that we were property.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:14 PM
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I just don’t see why that would mean it’s just men. I also don’t see why men can’t genuinely mean the compliment to begin with. I’m sure you’re right that both genders do manipulate other people and try to latch onto their insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:16 AM
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Omg https://bjs.ojp.gov/female-murder-victims-and-victim-offender-relationship-2021 US: 34% vs 6% for intimate partner violence https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html Global: 82% vs 18% for intimate partner violence Gender of murderers: https://www.statista.com/statistics/251886/murder-offenders-in-the-us-by-gender/ Even in articles that aren’t in the US and are in Europe they report the same findings: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/women-murd…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:06 AM
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Ok I’ll make it more vague because I don’t have the time since I’m out with friends. Men kill women at a very high rate much more than woman kill men or each other
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:02 AM
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I know women who used to be in my friend circles who have been removed from it due to trying to be with 4-5 men as partners at once. It’s just that sometimes people suck regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:59 AM
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It’s a very very small amount of men. But yes of course serial cheaters exist in both genders you’re fully correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:32 AM
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I think people do overestimate their own attractiveness. However, I don’t see the connection between that and men being unable to compliment women. I think both men and women can give compliments they don’t mean. And men probably compliment you or what you do because they mean it. I’m sure some don’t, but I don’t really see why this is something men do that women don’t do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:26 AM
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Brooo I promise no one is super hot and unable to wipe their ass since a lot of staying attractive is hygiene or discipline. Like they’re not going to the gym/eating well/drinking water there’s absolutely no way I promise if you have a lot of the attributes above and are a relatively lean guy you are a lot of women’s crush
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:21 AM
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The stereotype that women are somehow the pickiest people alive always confused me. Have you not seen the sheer amount of Reddit posts where women get sad that their boyfriend doesn’t know how to wipe their ass and they put up with the smell of shit while having sex? Men are known for (because a lot of the time it’s true) poorer hygiene than women. Yes I’m sure women are easier to objectify than men, but I don’t really see this thing where men are all sparkling and walking around with women igno…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:10 AM
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Once again you say that but before this guy had the reaction that dressing clean was stupid and said teeth whitening strips were ineffective So clearly not everyone knows Also once again every single person you see as a heartthrob for women is wearing makeup. How is it that you think as a woman I don’t know what other women try dating? They’re the ones that send me the photos of the people they like
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:04 AM
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I know women who do the exact stuff you have listed here who you definitely would not find attractive. Obviously being attractive makes you more attractive. Men are not unique in being able to be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:03 AM
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Bro you’re wild 🥴 have fun wearing the same shirt you’ve worn for the last week.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:02 AM
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Okay because the reality of the situation is that women only recently were able to vote, own property, buy property, have a bank account, seek out an education, have it be illegal for their male partners to rape them if they’re married, not be told they can’t work in most fields, not die regularly from complications in child birth, not be expected to be the one only responsible for raising children and doing housework, etc. And yet still women are more likely to be victims of domestic violence, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:00 AM
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Yes because eyeliner and concealer are typical regardless of age. Genuinely I’m shocked that you are incapable of recognizing that every heartthrob for women is covered in makeup. I also misspoke I meant to write concealer again instead of mascara. I also love that my advice of “dress cleanly and whiten your teeth” is being equated to being a furry LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:06 PM
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I think it’s really unfortunate that you have consumed content that is right leaning and have begun parroting those talking points. I highly recommend consuming literature that explains the movement in-depth. Men and women are not treated as equals in our society, and we go through things distinctly different than men do. Equality for one group is not damnation for another. If you feel as though your rights are being revoked when another group is being treated as an equal that means that a privi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:04 PM
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Lots of men look very attractive bald. Most men my age are not bald since I am 20 so it’s not something I know a lot about in terms of my own preference. I find it really funny that you are incapable of disagreeing with the rest now 😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:59 PM
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That’s a very attractive aesthetic. If you just look at or Google the type of men that women like you’ll see that a lot of it follows this exact vibe. We’re simple creatures 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:51 PM
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I think your perception of feminism is just skewed unfortunately. I’ve never met a woman who didn’t want men to ever be able to take up space. I’m sure extremists exist, but I also don’t think blackpill or incel men speak on behalf of all men. You taking up space is totally fine. It’s not unpopular to say that, and I actually think less and less women are identifying as feminists. I am a bit saddened by the reputation that feminism has as I think it’s a really good movement, and I will always id…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:49 PM
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Oh my god what a surprise that not every tip works on every person. All of this can be said for the tips given to women regarding makeup or clothes too. Also messy hair is a universal, eyeliner on men along with mascara if done subtly is also quite popular all of the “Chad” bs that you post about has men wearing makeup you just can’t tell I can tell you don’t use under eye masks or teeth whitening strips because they have a huge instant result after taking them off. If that isn’t “instant” enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:46 PM
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My point is that the fear only comes with initially seeing someone. It isn’t a good idea to make yourself stay away from people due to their own troubles. You should be able to operate without feeling guilty for existing. It is the responsibility of women who feel that way to discern who they want to talk to and why. It is not your responsibility to suffer throughout life trying to avoid that. The easiest way I think I can explain it would be with a case like mine: I’ve been assaulted by both me…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:11 PM
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They don’t need to have overlap at all. But I do agree that some people are in relationships more often than others. Also with the sheer amount of people not dating of either sex right now it’s not just men not dating. Lots of women have never dated anyone either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:16 PM
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Hi! Feminism does not necessarily have any of the points you’re saying. What you’re talking about is individual women (a lot of women) being reserved or fearful of men based on prior experience. Consider the way that MGTOW men talk about women. They say that we are exaggerating, emotional, and unreasonably anxious. These generalizations, in the same way that women generalize men via feminism, are not necessarily true. Women get scared of men they do not know because in all seriousness men are mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:13 PM
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That’s also delusional my guy. Having been in relationships before the idea that “top guys” have time to be cheating all the time with twenty other women is untrue. Most of the time what makes them “top” is because of the amount of time they’re willing to spend with a partner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:05 PM
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Your perspective is altered because you’re thinking about what would make men more attractive to you. Quick & Easy Tips: 1. Slightly messy hair + pick hairstyle that works for you 2. Eyeliner (guy eyeliner) 3. Concealer 4. Under eye masks 5. Button down shirt + roll up sleeves 6. Buy clothes that fit 7. Teeth whitening strips 8. Nice pants + dress shoes 9. Slightly undone tie
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:02 PM
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Interdependent leaning on independent. Just everything within reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:56 PM
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Google it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:54 PM
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Hey! So absolutely there are people who find things attractive. However, I thought one of the main points of the ideology espoused in the subheading under your name is that your feelings don’t matter and it’s things with statistical relevance. That’s why I start things off with “statistically most women” as in the majority of women dislike age gaps and the majority of women want to date within their own age range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:52 PM
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I agree that family that treats each other poorly would mean that making fun of each other back is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:17 PM
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That most people do not prefer age gaps, and most women statistically do not want to date men in their 30s as 20 year olds. I’m sorry that was your experience in college, and you regularly had to deal with racism. That’s incredibly sad, and I hope you’re feeling better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:18 PM
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Ok I will break it down for you because you seem to have difficulty understanding what I am trying to say. I am saying that him being content about this because he is watching his friends and family suffer is unfair. Now if we think about the order of actions you might be able to understand why this is distinctly different than me shaming you. Girl is single > girl is sad > guy finds it funny See how the guy in the third part is not being harmed by his friends or family being sad? See how he is …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:56 PM
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He said he enjoyed watching them suffer. You can’t suddenly try to pretend it’s a noble thing. Second of all, being proven “right” and then deciding that means you should feel content about other people suffering is also deranged and a lack of empathy. You do have an avatar idk what you’re talking about don’t you have a Reddit account? Also yes I insulted you about something obviously irrational and hypothetical since most people don’t live with their parents. Congratulations on not actually hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:46 PM
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You’re nuts. It doesn’t make me happy to see people suffer regardless of whether or not they unintentionally did it to themselves. The reason why is because I have basic human empathy and I’m not deranged enough to think watching my family suffer is funny. You being behind an anonymous avatar I’m sure is where like 99% of your audacity is coming from because with an attitude like yours your mom definitely still does all of the housework for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:37 PM
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The irony is that the ones who have done that would never say something like that to anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:34 PM
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I promise you she also is struggling in a lot of ways and you two might have more in common than you think. Also if while courting a girl she isn’t doing stuff for you that’s definitely not a good thing. She should also be taking you out. Gl 🫡 if you end up dating her write a response here I’ll want to hear about it at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:13 AM
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Everything you said was totally fine to me. I just don’t like it went other people enjoy suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:43 AM
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I don’t have a stable background. My life is actually quite horrific, and I didn’t even grow up with my parents. Yes they aren’t divorced. Doesn’t change the fact he was in prison until recently. The reason I come on here and get readily annoyed is because I’m used to all kinds of suffering. It then annoys me when men think that it’s ok to be sexist because women don’t want to sleep with them and generalize us like we aren’t also human beings. 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:43 AM
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Once again insanely rare situations that do not happen for the majority of men or women. Most men do not make enough to be a sugar daddy the idea that every 30 year old making 40k a year has a 20 year old sugar baby is untrue. Most people date within five years of each other. More and more people are dropping dating altogether. More women are getting educated. More couples are never getting married. More people are never having children. This is not the ongoing issue that it’s being made out to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:27 AM
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It’s a few couples my family is quite small. They also aren’t only with them for personality the men are quite normal and make less but still a reasonable amount. Finances and life will always be a mess and are a mess for everyone. Maybe she would take you out on dates and make it better 👀👀 What if she makes it less annoying and you enjoy certain parts of life and dating again? Idk your life but I’m lowkey hoping you get drunk one night and dm her back and the two of you go on a date 🫡 gl my man…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:17 AM
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Have you forgotten that the reason why people are being negative is because he said it gives him joy to watch his siblings and friends suffer? Of course I’m going to retaliate lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:14 AM
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Definitely mentally blockading themselves. You’re 1000% correct. They are also fully right that I am not interested in dating a guy older than 25. Doesn’t change the fact that most people are like myself and don’t like age gaps of over five years. I’m sure I’d be beyond annoying to a guy in his 30s to deal with. Like holy shit I would be complaining about my grad courses still that must be insufferable to deal with significantly out of college.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:52 AM
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Oh if you’re unable to that’s totally fine. Also not sure why you think it’s fanfiction that my family doesn’t have lots of divorce in it? There are lots of people who aren’t divorced bro. I feel for you in the sense that yes dating is hard emotional repercussions of it are difficult to deal with but when you find the person you’ll like you’ll be happier. I mean every relationship we enter into will end up in splitting up or being together forever. Yes it hurts. I just find it sad that you’re gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:50 AM
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If they come to you that’s fantastic I’m glad you fit into a type of person that women like and you’re able to have and maintain great relationships with them. You are in the minority though. Also no they shouldn’t be punished a lot of women who are a few generations older than myself in my family have partners a decade older. There is nothing wrong with that. However people aren’t happy to know that a partner of theirs will live ten years less time than themselves on average. Your friend group …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:47 AM
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Sorry it genuinely was unclear because in life relationships are kind of competitive regardless of age group. In other words he’s saying he is a competitive partner against other 18-24 year old men now. It makes sense that someone who had nothing going for them who then eventually had things going for them would be more attractive. Not entirely sure how this would even be a conversation then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:34 AM
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So what? The women who you slept with told you that they like you more than other men? What a surprise. Most young women do not like older men. The men my age are very mature, and most of the older men on my campus are cognizant of the fact that they are too old for me. They tend to start off interactions with “if I were five-ten years younger…”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:32 AM
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How is it “cope” men that age are interested in me. I am interested in younger, more attractive men who are my own age. There is nothing impressive to me about a 30 something year old that wants to bang a girl a decade younger than himself. Googling the average age gap you will see that the majority of people are not interested in dating people more than five years apart. Also*** hooking up is very different than dating. If I were someone interested in hooking up I doubt I’d care very much about…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:31 AM
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You can find a small portion of the population that does anything. To me this isn’t indicative of a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:29 AM
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You used the word sabotage so you have to be cognizant that it is actually sabotage. Take a chance with the girl it might actually work out and make you happy. My parents are lifelong partners and divorce isn’t common in my family. Pretty much every single woman makes more, was more attractive (some were models and later became lawyers), and they stood by their partners until the very end. Personality was what the men had going for themselves. They had hobbies and they emotionally supported the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:28 AM
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They are in the absolute minority of minorities for college student preference and it’s normally indicative of some kind of problem the poor student is going through.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:08 AM
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As a college aged girl, I have loads of friends and I do not know a single man or woman in any club, job, or fraternity/sorority that is not heavily questioned for going out with older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:56 AM
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I think when men say things like: If you don’t date me no one else will I’m the best you could reasonably get why won’t you try with me Women are all the same and it’s irrational that you all think you’re a 10 Etc. etc. The reason why they are saying it is to try to get the woman to sleep with the guy on the basis that he believes her type is too restrictive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:51 AM
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This is delusional bro if she matched with you go for it. You’re right about being the one to sabotage the relationship. I quite literally used to have this problem when I was fine with dating guys less successful than myself. They emotionally cheated on me, started freaking out on me constantly about not making as much or having as many career opportunities, and I was like what in the fuck are you doing? Women are capable of knowing whether or not they want you. Not every woman wants someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:46 AM
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There is absolutely no shot that the vast majority of 18-24 year old women are interested in you. You’re right probably some very young women are interested in what you can offer to them right now. There is no way that you are preferable to a 20 year old man if the person you’re talking to is a normal 20 year old woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:44 AM
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In that case I’m sorry that she struggles with rejection, and she went as far as to lie to you regarding the situation. I hope you can find a partner who is clear and direct with you who will also treat you well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:41 AM
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How is it pathetic to get joy from watching your friends and family suffer? Seriously bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:41 AM
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Hey! I date both women and men When a woman and I go on a date and she says she doesn’t want to get food from a place I do not go “haha let’s do it anyway” that is not compromising. If I genuinely don’t care I’ll go with wherever she says When a guy and I go on a date and I tell him I’m not interested in a place if we still went it would mean that he is not compromising as well then. When women talk about compromising they mean: 1. Women do most chores, child labor, emotional labor, and generall…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:36 AM
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I mean it sounds like she was hospitalized bro. There’s a chance she’s just not healthy and not looking for anything right now but wanted to let you down easily. More of a right person wrong time thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:31 AM
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Young women do not want you either my dude. If you don’t get dates with college aged women in college you’re not pulling us when you’re in your 30s either. If you’re not even 30 you’re literally still in the same age bracket as us and genuinely just fantasizing that you’re getting old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:29 AM
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They absolutely are not getting hit on by college aged women. College aged women do not go for men like that in any capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:26 AM
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I tend to not find my friends’ partners to be romantically or physically attractive. The men they like are just not the kind of man I am interested in. That’s ok. Those men would not like me either I’m sure so there’s no hard feelings, and they are in happy relationships. I also am very picky so if we swap it around an interesting part as well is that none of my friends find my ex’s attractive. Even when I was dating literal models they said that the men I picked were “too thin.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:23 AM
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If you actually look at the preference of young women you will always notice that it’s the type of androgynous man you see in boy bands. Think of MCR, P!ATD, BTS, and the other popular boy band groups. Also men like muscles on men more than women like muscles on men you can Google it to see the type of preference. Yes people like celebrities because celebrities are distant and easy to think about as nonhuman. The “pretty boy” aesthetic is one that tons of women are romantically interested in. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:18 AM
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I don’t believe in the concept of a high value man or whatever it’s supposed to refer to, but I think I can kind of speak to what you’re talking about? There are a few guys im friends with and they are: 1. Conventionally attractive, tall, mildly to very athletic 2. Almost done with graduate programs, work multiple jobs, have very promising careers, doing research in STEM 3. They have multiple hobbies, talents, friends, and speak multiple languages Most women who are attracted to men like these g…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:14 AM
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Supposing this is true: Isn’t it really pathetic that the second you see your friends and family suffer in a similar way to you your reaction is “(: that makes me happy”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:06 AM
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Your mom and dad are not the way that your partner will love you. I have felt love and I’m capable of it. I’ve had multiple relationships, and I’m known for being a great friend and partner. The reason why is because I’m not stupid enough to assume they love me unconditionally, and I know I need to continually improve to be a good person to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:27 AM
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It’s not a trope. I have had men in that age bracket speak to me regularly. I absolutely shut them down for that exact reason constantly. I have never once regretted doing so, and I am only interested in men around my age. You are delusional if you think Ariana Grande is not significantly more attractive than the vast majority of 20 year olds. Please step outside onto like a college campus or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:25 AM
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You quite literally ignored the follow up of hugging/kissing/walking around/doing normal activities. Also BDSM is not the only kind of sex people have. Sometimes people like intimate romantic sex that is made more difficult (not impossible) by height difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:24 AM
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Ariana Grande is significantly more attractive than the vast majority of people. To say otherwise is a blatant lie bro. She also absolutely passes for being in her early 20s still. “Hotter” 20 year olds is wild. Idk if you’ve ever been to a college campus, but I promise you the women that walk around here look like normal human beings. Sure some of us are really really pretty but it’s extremely rare. That’s also not a fallacy or what the word fallacy means. Women are disinterested in significant…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:23 AM
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Yes because the point is that some women and some men both use the opposite sex and are bad people. The odd part of everything that I see on here is that the actions of some women are meant to represent all women for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:19 AM
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Men kill women more than women kill men. Also you can just use google. I googled it and am attaching the first link bro: https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/inside-the-mind/emotions/male-female-bullies.htm Idk how tall you are. If a man is a foot taller than me and can absolutely murder me with his bare hands easily I am trusting him not to kill me when we are alone. I am not afraid of men in general but if a man starts demanding I have sex with him I will be afraid if he knowingly uses the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:03 PM
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Of course I understand the sentiment behind that. However I do have one point to play devil’s advocate: Have you considered that instead of it being about the random man she hooked up with she was just interested in hooking up and the man was available? I think that option happens way more frequently and then once people are interested in a relationship they readjust the way they perceive sex. Women can objectify and use men’s bodies if they are horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:52 AM
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So the reason why misandry is different (but still unhealthy) is because the reaction to oppression is not the same as being an oppressor. Let’s say I break into your house. I attack you, and you attack me back. Your use of self defense, even if you continue after I am defeated, is distinctly different than my initial attack. If I went “haha but YOU did it back to me” you’d think I’m delusional. Likewise, men as a whole are oppressors and some women unfortunately fall into mentalities that are m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:49 AM
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One thing you’re not considering: Men are significantly stronger than women. Men can kill women easily. Men kill women more than women commit violent crime. If a man is getting agitated and is using his stature to try to convince a woman to sleep with him the underlying threat is that he will attack her. He does not need to attack her and that is why it is coercion. Women do not want to be murdered or tortured so they are more willing to succumb to this pressure. In terms of how often it happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:44 AM
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What confuses me so much about this is that sex is more difficult with a huge height difference. It’s something I’m willing to overlook since men are attractive regardless of their height, but you have to be cognizant of the difficulty of kissing/hugging/doing other physical activity with a partner a foot taller than you. I mean for fucks sake the partners I’ve had that were 6-8 inches taller than me told me that going on long walks sometimes was harder for them since in the beginning they neede…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:39 AM
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Love is not unconditional. You need to be able to bring something to the table and that is dependent on the dynamic you have with your partner. I am interested in providing for my partner. This means I expect him to equally be able to cook/clean/and do housework. In the situation you’re describing it’s very likely that the women do 100% of home maintenance in exchange for men providing financially. Does this mean men are incapable of love because they want women to do housework? No. It’s also wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:34 AM
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Ariana Grande is 30. Zendaya is 27. Those women are absolutely more beautiful than not only the man you mentioned but more so than the vast majority of 20 year old girls. The guy you posted is honestly not more attractive than all of my friends who are currently in undergraduate and graduate school. In fact, a lot of the guys at the gym at my university are more attractive to me. I think it’s funny that you don’t consider health issues, stamina, life experience, and overlap in hobbies at all dur…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:30 AM
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I call attractive men creepy losers all the time. The reason why is because they are creepy losers. I’m sure occasionally mean people will say mean things that are untrue. I don’t see why that means the word creepy is now synonymous with unattractive. When I was younger I was bullied by being called carrot top. This was not a hidden code for me being ugly. It was because I had red hair as a little girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:24 AM
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I like anything my partner would do for me. Probably things of value would be best like food. I am a sucker for someone who is considerate enough to occasionally buy my favorite drink while they’re out doing something else. The idea that they were thinking of me is very sweet. Gifts from their culture that are important to them are things I absolutely adore. Something that clearly has lifelong value to them that they went out of their way to give to me. I tend to do gift baskets of gifts for a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:22 AM
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Being kind isn’t a negative for women. You are speaking based on random anecdotal evidence that makes no sense. People who find apathy attractive probably like: 1. That the other person isn’t obsessed with them 2. That the other person is independent 3. That the other person probably has ambitions or hobbies 4. That the other person is not someone very transparent It’s up to you if these are bad things. I’m not particularly fond of men like that, but I wouldn’t be averse to getting to know someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:17 AM
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No. I’m probably in the group that you would assume would do that. There have been times where I’ve considered dating men who are in their post doctorate, but I realized that I am not interested in pursuing a relationship that would feel unequal (since I’m not completed with my education). Not to mention, the portion of men that can provide what you’re talking about is insanely small.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:13 AM
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People are not going to have deep and important interactions in work settings since that would not be appropriate for a workplace environment. Instead, you would typically greet your friend and discuss something surface level until you two (or more) are alone to talk. Women have as much complexity as men, and women also feel significantly more satisfied in their friendships with both men and women statistically because they are able to have that level of emotional depth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:09 AM
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I think this should be framed as men get harassed as well and should be respected. I do not understand why you need to turn this into a competition. The women who harass you also harass me. The men who harass you also harass me. And then the men who do not harass you also harass me. And then the women who do not harass me also harass you. It is a bad thing and should be definitely quelled. However, you also need to recognize that there is a difference between personalized and targeted harassment…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:39 PM
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It’s the concept that if the limit were younger you’d be espousing the idea that it’s peak fertility to be with a 15-20 year old girl instead. It’s not the concept of dating someone younger than you it is about why you are aiming for that age specifically. The whole “barely legal” or “she turned 18 yesterday” is intentionally playing on the fact that if it were allowed to be with younger than 18 that would be the goal. That’s the problem with it not with dating an 18 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:34 PM
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I wrote a question mark because if that was all you got out of my statement you entirely misunderstood the point I was making. Yes I’m not overweight. I also don’t think that’s the relevant part of my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 05:05 PM
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Thank you! I try my best to be giving to potential partners. I’ve also found that asking them to explicitly spend one on one time together is good too. In my mind even if they ultimately aren’t interested in me I’m at least cultivating a good friendship (:
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 04:23 PM
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I always give presents! When asking out my last girlfriend I gave her a pair of very nice earrings and ultimately asked her to be my partner a few weeks after that. Otherwise when flirting with men or women I will buy or make them lots of food regularly or get them their favorite drinks to indicate that I pay attention to their interests and know what they like
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:30 PM
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Yes? What kind of question even is that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:27 PM
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I don’t think there is anything wrong with having a preference. I do think there are individuals who are messed up who then pretend it’s just a preference which then makes women wary of men who say they like petite women. I had a man I dated for a year tell me I was significantly too tall (I’m 5’4), that my ribs only partially showed during sex and he wanted to see each individual one as much as possible, and he was upset that I had breasts. He said he wanted an entirely flat chested woman so I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:49 AM
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I repeatedly ask them how they are and how I can advocate for them interpersonally and also in a workplace context. If a situation seems off I will ask to join them so they are not alone especially if we are dealing with a woman alone in a context that could become an emergency
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:47 AM
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Being unable to take accountability and apologize
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:46 AM
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Sometimes men are shyer than the women who are interested in them or the women are interested in the relationship progressing faster than he would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 10:45 AM
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Women choose men who treat them well and make them happy. If women are manipulated into believing bad men are the best at that then yes the guy could win.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:03 PM
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The same thing applies the other way around. Women coercing men to drink is also bad and should not be tolerated. The reason why this is framed from the perspective of what men do is because the question was asking what men do. I don’t understand what the issue is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 04:00 PM
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Coercion doesn’t mean forced coercion means manipulated to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:42 AM
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Great question! It varies on the reason for why you’re interested in drinking with her. If you’re interested in trying to convince her to drink because you intentionally want her defenses to be lowered this is coercive and manipulative. Most of this subreddit boils down to whether or not x person is intending on doing something for a bad reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 05:02 AM
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? I don’t understand why I wouldn’t be calm. They asked me a question and I answered it. Why are you talking about something entirely different than what I am talking about? I’m well aware of how to interact with people. The question was how do men manipulate women, and I answered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:54 PM
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Yes and the answer is no. The ones that are not red pillers get significantly more attention without any of the misogyny. Also funnily enough, the red pillers are more attractive otherwise. The ideology prevents them from getting a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:06 PM
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By intentionally lying and deceiving the person they are speaking to. It also is included in intentionally pulling at their vulnerability to gain intimacy. Using any sort of substance to get her to be more vulnerable with you Lying about your morals, opinions, political views to get her to sleep with you Lying about how you feel about her to get her to sleep with you Saying outlandish inaccurate things in order to gain her appeal so you can keep her interested (lying about your job, career, futu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:04 PM
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It is a bad thing. It’s the equivalent of saying a woman looks like a whore, but it also refers to actively harming people. It’s not that you get “good women” it’s that you take advantage of vulnerable women through drinking, drugs, manipulation tactics, or coercion. If someone were to call you an abuser the reaction shouldn’t be “hahaha at least I have people to abuse!”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 10:01 PM
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Yes I feel quite odd about situations like that so I hope both of them are happy. My mom would tell me that her peers really liked the idea of being with an American man so supposedly they all are happy with marriages over 20 years, but idk how it actually works out. I think a lot of the time people assume it’s some underground concept when it reality it’s quite common to have specific dating platforms where that is the goal and it’s not covert at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 09:55 PM
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Thank you for hearing me out! It made absolutely no difference to me, and it even made me respect them more for showing emotional vulnerability because I find that to be a really admirable trait. My relationships that have ended came to an end due to reasons entirely unrelated to them being emotionally expressive. I also never felt my sex life impacted by them crying. All of my partners were friends of mine first, and they all cried before we even got into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:43 PM
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It is something they do. My family is Slavic, and I have familial connections to a mail order bride service. It’s common in the US for men to fetishize East Asian, South Asian, and Eastern European women with the goal of marrying them due to a misconstrued idea of being able to “tame” us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:03 PM
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My male partners and female partners have all been significantly more emotional than me. They all cry more (often as well), need to be comforted, and need to be provided for. There is nothing wrong with any of this, and it doesn’t prevent me from liking a partner. What I dislike is anger, emotionally unavailability (normally perceived by TRP as being stoic), and a lack of reflection to be accountable for their own actions. Also women like sex. I have always wanted sex the same amount or more tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:02 PM
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I have complained about men not wanting to be committal or only being interested in sex. The reason why is because even if those same men are interested in having a relationship with me it sets off red flags for me. You’re right, why would I be different? I think I majorly complained about it in high school while dating a model because he cheated on me. In my mind because he said he had changed and would no longer view women as objects, I thought I was being told something true. I don’t think lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:57 PM
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Women and men both suck at reading character equally. You’re right if you try to manipulate women you can manipulate them. I don’t really see why this is indicative of them being bad at reading character rather than men being bad at being kind. If we phrased it like “women get hurt when you hit them. They suck at wearing body armor” I would be very confused by the point you were trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:54 PM
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Men get annoyed at the attention as well. Most of my close male friends do not like being hit on by women or men, and they routinely get more bent out of shape regarding it than I do. I don’t believe there’s anything wrong with them not wanting to be treated inappropriately. Even so when they get hit on it’s different from me because their annoyance is like a fly attacking them, and I am more likely to feel as if I’m being attacked by a wasp. Men are stronger than women. In short: people are uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 07:52 PM
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No. You want to have sex but it is also good to make you see that your partner likes having sex with you too. It makes you feel good to know you are giving them pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:14 PM
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I want someone who is my equal. That does not necessarily mean he graduated college, owns a house, or has everything in his life together. It does mean that I like his personality, and I can see the effort he is putting into his life at the present and in the future. For instance: I expect someone in their 20s to be doing something. It could be a job, school, internship, apprenticeship, or anything similar. I expect someone in their 20s to have some kind of plan for what the next year or two yea…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:11 PM
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Thick in the social media sense is for women who are not overweight and who are fit who have a small waist and big thighs. This is not the “rare” interest you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:07 PM
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It absolutely was not male dominated in terms of leadership when it came to the workforce and community.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:06 PM
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There absolutely are women interested in all of that stuff. You’re right that it is to a lesser degree, but it is not impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:05 PM
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In the queer community bears exist as a way to distract from being openly not straight. Also because we have bottoms and tops. However in city centers (like I’m from NY) I can promise you queer people have insanely high standards. As they should. You do not see gay men being ok with their partner not washing their ass however straight women unfortunately put up with it often
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:59 PM
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Yes some women do do that. Some men also befriend lesbians intentionally to try to turn them straight. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:00 PM
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Ok women can be friends with ugly people because they are not interested in them for how they look. You do not know the thought processes behind every single woman. Yes some of them can be vicious but that does not mean every woman is that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:46 PM
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No fetishizing is not a diverse interest it is a fetish. Also zendaya absolutely would be considered beautiful in old Hollywood standards as well not that it should matter since we are talking about stereotypical people and we are all significantly uglier than her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:33 PM
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Men saying they like overweight women is so rare it could be considered a negligible quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:30 PM
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Gay men are quite literally significantly more picky than straight women. Take it from someone in the queer community yesterday I was joking around with one of my good friends who is a gay man. Every man I thought was attractive he rated a 5 bro. It is known that that community is highly discriminatory based on looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:30 PM
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That’s just not true. Women can be friends with men without wanting to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:28 PM
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US but my family is from Eastern Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:27 PM
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I like short Indian guys I’m not going to like people I find ugly for obvious reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:27 PM
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The fact you think Zendaya is average is beyond me. She is genuinely beautiful and would never be seen as average. My point is you are just pretending you know there is a concrete difference. “Men are generally into” how do you know that it’s more than women? I can play the same game Do you know how many people I know into x or y trait? It’s more than men I have met of the same trait! Also I don’t count white men fetishizing Asian women as having diverse interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:54 PM
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It’s actually a lot better than the other ones I’ve been in! It’s not ideal, but I’ve made more male friends here than anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:50 PM
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Friend doesn’t mean they need to be attractive that’s just odd. Friend means they need to be a good friend. You’re right it’s good to be attracted to your partner. You’re right you shouldn’t be trying to get into relationships if you believe you are a terrible person incapable of love unless you go to the gym more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:50 PM
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Exactly (:
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:42 PM
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Likewise women have as much of a chance of meeting any of the men listed in the OP as a UFO sighting. Men also are not interested in varied types of women much in the same way that women are not. You cannot have it both ways. It is either women are interested in different kinds of men or men are not interested in different types of women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:40 PM
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I prefer men who are about 5’4. I will date men who are above 5’10 but that to me is not ideal and not something I want in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:38 PM
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By short I mean 5’2-5’8.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:26 PM
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I’ve reflected on it because before I just didn’t think I had a type at all. It’s 1 or 2. I don’t care a lot of the time but I actively do not like dating tall men which means that I do like short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:20 PM
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Being overweight, saying their faces aren’t attractive enough, complaining about their bodies, complaining about how they dress, complaining about their voice, complaining about their makeup, complaining about their hair, complaining about their teeth etc
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:19 PM
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He would understand that his preferences for men are more varied than simply a one dimensional standard that he is projecting onto women for having here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:18 PM
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No one said it was the majority. I’m replying to the post that said men like all kinds of women but women don’t like all kinds of men. Of course it’s rarer of course it’s less likely. You ask if I’m trolling but it doesn’t seem like you’re actually listening to what the OP said or what the purpose of my response was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:20 PM
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And likewise men say they’re interested in overweight women but actions speak louder than words and they are not as keen about it as they claim to be. You’re right though my friends and I dating short men does help to prove that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:07 PM
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I hear it from my friends and the people around me. I hear it at my work with my colleagues and from people in the same program as me. Men and women attracted to men will have a type and they will have a range of indifference. I think you’re right in saying it is more unlikely, but you have to also be aware that it’s more unlikely for men to like traditionally unattractive women, right? Like I’ve heard the things men have said about coworkers of mine and it’s absolutely foul.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:01 PM
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Is it really that surprising to have different types if you like both genders? Let’s use common sense If I’m attracted to the middle ground of both that means I will most likely like feminine men and masculine women. This is normal and I’m not sure what part of this you’re struggling with I am not gaslighting you and I don’t care about your opinion I like dating men who are about my height. It is my preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:44 PM
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I’m bisexual bro that means I like both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:39 PM
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I like short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:37 PM
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I like short men. There we go. I’m one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:34 PM
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The reason why you perceive it differently is probably because you are not bisexual. Women talk all the time about liking short men, liking overweight men, liking men who are not muscular, liking men who are muscular, liking men with good hair or messy hair, liking men with or without glasses, liking men with unconventionally attractive features, and liking men with overall different vibes. The nerd with glasses and thick thighs is a type that people have. This does not suddenly correlate to one…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:41 AM
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Because men are given limited resources regarding mental health in part due to the nonsense opinions spread here that they are not emotional and do not need emotional assistance. Men and women are equal not only by law but as people as well. Holy shit 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:50 AM
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I’m also Eastern European. You’re fully missing my point. Like yes of course the USSR was terrible so is all of the world constantly. My point is women worked hard during that period of time. To discredit it and pretend women have never worked hard to an equal amount as men is what is disrespectful. You are not going to get pity from me considering my family was also a servant under the tsar.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:49 AM
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I have met very many REAL men who are significantly more emotional than women. I have met very many REAL women who are less emotional than men. It’s almost like we are individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:47 AM
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You immediately went from “they weren’t there at all” to “oh they were there but not enough of them were for it to matter” Why is it so hard for you guys on here to just be coherent and consistent? Women worked very hard in the USSR definitely harder than you or I work right now. It’s just disrespectful to pretend they didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:06 AM
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https://www.thecollector.com/women-red-army-wwii/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:46 AM
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Based on what statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:09 AM
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The United States is not the only place that has ever wanted equal rights for men and women. When I speak of my family wanting rights they are not American. Yes American feminism is for white women and white women were and still are incredibly racist. However that does not mean women do not want rights. None of what you said was a response to that at all. You are quite literally talking past the point that women want rights and it is not for you to say that we are happier without them
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:08 AM
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Women are weaker physically. Women aren’t weaker emotionally. It does not matter whether or not men are physically stronger because no one is debating that they are weaker. This commentary really does make it seem like you do not speak to a lot of women or understand or have seen a lot of women interact with other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:04 AM
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Men quite literally consume copious amounts of content that gives them viruses and they get regularly scammed for sex. Wdym only women are vulnerable to scams 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:17 AM
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Men are known for being emotionally weaker which is why they are associated with aggression.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:17 AM
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Because it’s where my family is from so I have a lot of background on it. I’m sorry not everyone is only ever from the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:15 AM
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Ok if you do not want to listen to reality have fun. If you feel so compelled maybe Google it sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:14 AM
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Men literally do not even learn how to handle their emotions which is why they are associated with aggression. You are literally the “all wars have been started by men” meme incarnate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:13 AM
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Men commit 96% of violent crime. Women are not the issue that you think they are. Men and women are equal and you are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:12 AM
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They were not as content. Otherwise they would not have regularly advocated and protested for having equal rights. I also trust their actual input of saying they want rights over you believing they don’t for some reason? The women then did not prefer that?? What? My family hated it. That’s also why women protested for rights I have no idea what point you are even trying to make. Yes women loved being diagnosed with hysteria and being property actually. It was their favorite pastime and I would l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:11 AM
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Is that really the only argument you have? Of course they don’t. However now I was able to get published, do research regularly, get employed by high level companies, and I am happy and content with not only my work life but social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:45 PM
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I’m not being dishonest I said from the beginning that I genuinely do not know. Also if I did it simply from my perspective I wouldn’t have been able to know there was a difference in male vs female sa which is why statistics are important. My point was that aside from the fact that I just genuinely do not know I think it makes sense that this would come from having more options
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:43 PM
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Men quite literally are as insecure if not more insecure than women. Men do not have the ability to shrug off criticism as indicated by the whole red pill and black pill philosophy. Half the comments I get on here are men that are upset that they have been rejected by women before.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:13 PM
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If it’s not a good thing, it doesn’t mean women are mentally weaker than men. How is that unclear? These random stereotypes mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:08 PM
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My point is that’s not a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:05 PM
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It’s limited because I don’t think there are actual stats on the “ick” thing you’re mentioning. I also only use Reddit so I haven’t seen the other videos you’re talking about. What I do know is that most of my male friends act like this to some extent. A lot of my friends who are women also do the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:03 PM
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Humans are social creatures. Understanding how to socialize is fundamental for doing well in society. If anything the level of empathy women have would make us mentally stronger. In reality men and women are just equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:01 PM
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“Mentally weaker” from someone who doesn’t understand how to properly analyze a bell curve. These actually are all controversial opinions and thoughts. Let me ask you something During the USSR who do you think was considered to run the most things in society? Women. They had to have jobs, provide for children, and fight in wars. Do you know what year that happened? And do you know that that also includes a large portion of the people who you believe view women in this deluded way you mention her…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:40 PM
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My ability to generalize it is limited, but all of the male friends I have in college have this mentality as well. They genuinely believe a lot of women who court them are gross and speak about it in a way similar to how it is being written here. I think it’s dependent on the amount of people interested in you rather than the genders of said people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:34 PM
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Women couldn’t open a bank account to do the contracts or wills until the 1970s. Legally we had equal rights legislated in the 1970s. 1970s were also when women were allowed to purchase and have homes in their name. No historian believes we had equal rights in the 1950s. Just read stuff online instead of arguing with me in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:32 PM
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I really wonder how you guys get through history classes. Google 1950s discrimination against women and put gov after for government documents. Here: I googled it for you and I’ll copy and paste the first thing listed from one of the websites high schoolers use to study. “Women in the 1950s were not allowed to make contracts or wills, could not buy or sell property, had little control of their earnings in most situations, and were discouraged from acting politically, such as hold office, even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:23 PM
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… do you really think that racism ended in the 1950s? Interracial marriage wasn’t even allowed until the end of the 1960s. And I’m sure you know that queer people couldn’t get married until the 2000s. And I also do quite well in society actually (: with wonderful grades, friends, and company of the people around me. The reason why is because I am not delusional about the plights of other people. I also do not believe that legislation is indicative of how well people are treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:19 PM
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Absolutely if those things are happening they are bad. I just don’t believe it’s exclusive to women since men do similar things with similar behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:17 PM
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Those people are awful then I don’t really know what else to say about it. Those are disgusting behaviors and those women should be ashamed of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 07:15 PM
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Single women are listed as happier because the relationships that women were traditionally recorded as having with men were ones that were not beneficial to women. They did not make women happy. That is the reason why the disparity is there. SSRIs are known for emotional blunting, weight gain, nausea, headaches, brain zaps, sexual dysfunction, and a lot of other symptoms. If having these symptoms will still leave them statistically higher than women in relationships there is another problem. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:34 PM
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Women are just different individuals. I like directly asking people out, telling them how I feel, and I tend to be very straightforward with my intent. Some women are less emotionally comfortable with doing that. They prefer to approach relationships with more reservation. Some women are even more aggressive with asking others out than others. If it makes you feel better women also cannot understand statistically when a man is flirting with them. Women also make men uncomfortable with their flir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:30 PM
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Who I include would be dependent on their family, my family, where we both volunteer, and our neighborhood. Of course our friends would also be part of it. If they had a legitimate reason to not help out ofc I wouldn’t mind. In that situation I would probably be trying to help them instead since it seems like they may be going through something I can help with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:26 PM
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It is a different culture. Men back then intentionally subjugated women, were racist, anti LGBTQ, and they had the misguided belief that land should only really be for straight white men. Nowadays, we have men on here who regularly claim that women are “low value” and degrade us. I’ve seen multiple racist and anti queer sentiments just on this subreddit as well which isn’t supposed to be politically extreme. We have a rise in political affiliation with extremist groups which are markedly men. Me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:24 PM
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I’m not really in the loop about why the ick is important, but I think a lot of this seems like it’s related to before people enter a relationship It makes sense they would be more strict and be concerned about who fits what norms since relationships are social. It doesn’t mean it’s a good thing, and I do think having these concerns is problematic. I think this just seems like second hand embarrassment not even disliking the person for these qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:16 PM
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Wanting to volunteer, wanting to help others, wanting to sacrifice themselves to help others, wanting to work with me to make my community better in the small ways I can. I have friends where we split up tasks we are doing to help others in order to do it faster instead of wondering why I am helping them in the first place. I like things like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:13 PM
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Independent. Emotionally competent. Ambitious. Same values. Same competency to work. Good at conversations. Kind and good with animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:31 AM
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Ofc most of them just want to have a partner. Telling them to hire an escort is disrespectful if that’s the case. However, if the man is talking about how he is only interested in sex it’s a valid reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:29 AM
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It is a type of mentality that is pervasive. It does not mean it is pervasive everywhere. However, I’m not sure why it is not understandable that sometimes different groups of people get away with things that others do not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:46 PM
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People absolutely downplay it which is why statistically it is more likely to happen without severe repercussions. Additionally right wing people make up over 50% of the population in the US. I was quite literally taught in high school that men are stronger and more intelligent than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:41 PM
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More likely to downplay the experiences of others since they themselves do not have to experience it. In other words, saying sexism and homophobia aren’t actual problems. More likely to be violent or aggressive More likely to not have emotional restraint More likely to not be nurturing, caring, or consistently good with children
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:21 AM
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Yes I’d be fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:43 AM
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Straight men are lovely. Sometimes straight men have behaviors or actions that are toxic. Unfortunately, they as a group are more likely to get away with x or y behavior which is why it is seen as inherent to them as a gender when in reality it is just socialization.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:42 AM
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Why would I date a woman unless she was capable emotionally, fiscally, and romantically? How would she be different than any of my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:23 PM
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Yes. I do not know any women who personally care, but I can’t say all or give a number because it’s anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:17 PM
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I think most women do not care at all so long as he is taller by an inch at least
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:29 PM
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I agree treating women as a monolith makes no sense. However, I don’t see the relevance of religion since it’s mainly intended to control populations from a group perspective. I also find that the majority of men around me do not have any sort of polygamous intent. Then again, I also don’t think women are hypergamous usually either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:39 PM
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Having their appearance insulted Having their personality insulted Having to do more than their fair division of labor Allowing themselves to be taken advantage of because they don’t believe they deserve kindness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:37 PM
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Depends on age: High school it would be about emotions and giving each other small things College it’s about whether or not they’re employed, have a good head on their shoulders, stable friend group, and they are good with emotions. College also includes starting to pay for actual dates. I’m not beyond the college part yet, but I would just assume the list gets longer because as you age life becomes more complex. I need someone with a job because I need someone who is on my level who understands…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:36 PM
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I have a question about it: do you mean to say that ideally you wouldn’t want a partner who was as attractive as possible? Or is your point that being tall for them isn’t even seen as part of attractiveness? I like people who are my height or taller. I do not care what the difference is after that. In some ways I understand that there is more safety with men who are taller who I trust. When I had a long term boyfriend and he was 5’9 walking with him didn’t prevent me from being catcalled on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:30 PM
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It depends on if I knew him as a friend beforehand. If we were friends, we already got food together multiple times where we split, got presents for each other, etc. Since that dynamic of us being equal already existed, I would prefer if they did something entirely for me if they were to ask me out on a date. I tend to like the whole one date one person pays one date the other person pays dynamic. If it were someone who I did not know in advance I would be considered about the transactional comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:26 PM
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I think for the first one people who are not protective would garner less attention from women. The uncaring part could also be the woman’s version of “I can fix him” if he has the other good qualities. As for fame, I am pretty sure all of the instances we’re talking about are people who are well known but I could be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:18 AM
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Women do not want men who treat them poorly. The reason why they’re attracted to those men is because They’re protective They are normally charming They have some level of fame/media around them which automatically adds a halo Women tend to be more empathetic so they would justify the behaviors easier
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:11 PM
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C. I couldn’t handle not having a partner who didn’t have any sort of desire to have good sex with me. Not B because I honestly don’t care about it being good vs great, and I’d rather the partner be closer to my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:51 PM
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Both. I’ve dated some guys and we mutually decided we were better as friends. Some asked me out, and I told them I didn’t see a potential there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:48 PM
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No. I’ve never had a friend like that where it did not at some point become not platonic. However, I have had multiple queer women friends where that went entirely fine. I will say that just because it wasn’t platonic at some point does not mean that it is not platonic now. If you go on a date, decide it doesn’t work, and stay as friends I think that is also totally acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:38 PM
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Back when I was still a high school student I wore a uniform and took public transportation from school daily. Because I dressed in a way that would indicate my age and my being underage, I would receive harassment that would pertain to that. For instance, older men asking to “teach” me about sex and relationships. This is because some men have a specific fascination when it comes to purity and purity culture is pervasive in the US which is where I currently live. Now that I dress in my own clot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:34 PM
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I’m bisexual so I can provide input as a woman for dating men, women, and nb people. If I were not afraid of people I would: 1. Compliment them more openly in public as strangers 2. Be more willing to go outside alone to make friends or just go on walks which would give me the opportunity to befriend or do step 1 3. Openly ask out people who I do not know on dates 4. Have a more diverse friend group in terms of gender 5. Not worry about going to parties or getting drunk or being more open with o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:29 PM
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In reality the issue is the society we currently live in that believes “career oriented” means working without a proper balance of other priorities. It’s good to aim for a good career. It is good to want someone who wants a good career. It is unfortunate that statistically people are working for more hours than ever, harder than ever, and in the US the disparity of wealth is larger than it was to cause the French Revolution. The women are not mad at their men. They are mad that the men can’t be …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:25 PM
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In reality there are also jokes and trends of men and women fawning over evil women or women who have narcissistic, manipulative, and other abusive traits. Take for example all the jokes of like “I can fix her” etc. The mugshot of the woman who is pretty where all the men genuinely tried continuing to be her partner Even the hot/crazy scale is an example of this People regardless of gender sometimes are attracted to drama I think and they view that as a fantasy not something normally they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:22 PM
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I think what is really notable is just whether or not you are taller than your partner. If you are talking about a woman who is 5’7 wanting to date a man who is 5’9 or up I would understand because she herself is very tall. If you are like myself and 5’4 you most likely would also be fine with dating men and women who are the average height as well. If you are shorter most likely you are going to date a shorter person as well. I have dated people between 5’3 and 6’2. The most attractive in my op…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:06 PM
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I want someone who is equal to me. Meeting men and women like this at university is not particularly difficult. Although I am too young to have a lot of these preferences because I do not have all of it myself. I do have the whole Needs to have a job Needs to have a decent plan Needs to be able to afford their own housing Needs good time management skills That sort of thing. You just find people by existing. If you do not find people who meet your standards 100% you either change them or remain …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 11:22 PM
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My issue with it is that he seems to be viewing that negatively. Of course women are not dolls or pets that will love you unconditionally because we are also human beings. “Transactional” in this context seems to have a negative connotation. It implies it would be better if it were unconditional. My point is that it absolutely would not be better without having mutual respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:56 PM
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It absolutely does exist for men. I know a number of men who absolutely hate being cat called and have been assaulted by women. Rape does exist for men. Sexual violence does exist for men. If the mood was right a woman doing that sort of thing could be consensual. If the man had already told her he was disinterested a number of them would be very uncomfortable. Women are visual and men are visual. Both men and women can be assaulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:42 PM
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I want my equal. Wanting an equal is not materialistic because equal doesn’t mean it has to do with material possessions. Of course it’s going to be easier to have more people interested in you if you have more traits that most of society wants. That’s not being materialistic. Yes all relationships require a back and forth. You cannot be useless and expect someone to do everything for you. You’re right. I’m not entirely sure why you would want to have a second mother to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:44 PM
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Women are likely to get catcalled by people they do not know who then threaten rape. It happens quite regularly. I am attracted to porn and seeing sexual imagery of women and men. Also since you are not a woman on what basis do you have relevant input about how women perceive sex? The difference is that when it is unprompted it isn’t about the imagery it is about the lack of consent. Not wanting to be sexually violated is not the same thing as not being attracted to imagery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:42 PM
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No one is lying. Love can be irrational and uneven. In reality though there is no reason to want a love that is one sided. That’s ridiculous. Why would you want a partner who doesn’t help you, and you only ever help them? You want an even loving relationship where both people grow together and enjoy the company of the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:44 PM
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As a woman I like getting sent sexual photos of other women and men. I am literally the thing you say that does not exist. The difference is women like consent regarding these things and would prefer to be able to say yes or no to sexual advances. This is because women are scared continually of sexual violence and abuse because it is something that deeply effects our demographic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:42 PM
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You are not a nice guy. Nice guy = becomes antagonistic toward women when they are not interested in having sex You = spoke to women to see whether or not you would be compatible and did not threaten to hurt them There is nothing wrong with liking people or demonstrating romantic interest There are things wrong with stalking, threatening abuse, verbal abuse, saying you’ll rape or kill a woman, and doing all of things simply because she said she was not interested in having a romantic relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:41 PM
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You’re right that it’s primarily people online. I’m sure the demographic of the average man online is one that is currently struggling with dating. There must be a number of reasons for that that I don’t know, but it’s definitely different than the average guy who is not continually online.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:39 PM
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It’s really not an all or nothing thing here. Some women are attracted less to visuals and more to emotions. Some women are attracted to visuals more. 😭 the reason why men have a bad reputation with it is because they are encouraged to express their desire more than women are. It leads to a recurring misunderstanding that women are not sexual or capable of finding things physically attractive in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:37 PM
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There’s a large difference from hitting a woman and having consensual sex. I really dislike that you think fearing for safety and having sex in college would be equivalent injustices to a future partner. Your preference is to know everything and that is fine. If someone doesn’t want to tell you that is also fine and hopefully the relationship can end amicably. Men also do not like disclosing the amount of women they have had sex with or slept with. In my experience, the most honest partners I’ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:35 PM
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Just work some kind of job and do something meaningful or at least attempt to grow and improve yourself. Women do not only need men who make money. Women do not expect all people to have degrees either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:25 PM
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Just work some kind of job and do something meaningful or at least attempt to grow and improve yourself. Women do not only need men who make money. Women do not expect all people to have degrees either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:24 PM
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You are absolutely and completely full of shit. It’s honestly disgusting that you think you’d want a lifelong run of having to deal with pedophilia and rape in addition to the psychiatric issues that come with it. I have never met a man in person who is not terminally online that would ever perpetuate a sentiment as unfeeling and stupid as yours. I am sorry to be so harsh but im assuming you must be a high schooler to have such a ridiculously dumb opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:33 AM
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Not really sure what a frame is, but I do agree that being attractive absolutely helps in terms of career prospects as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:19 PM
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I hope you’ll like it 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 07:19 PM
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I don’t have any good input here. I just wanted to let you know I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, and I appreciate you wording it as well as you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:00 PM
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I agree I think that line of thinking is bad. People should choose others based on who they are, but unfortunately we see that that does not happen a lot of the time. I also dislike social media which is why the only platform I use is Reddit and I intentionally stay very anonymous. I like not having to feel fully sucked into an internet persona.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:59 PM
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This is like saying porn will teach you how to have sex. No. It’s entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:58 PM
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You can be feminine and assertive when need be. I think a lot of it comes down to the perception of being reserved, but you can absolutely be reserved and assert boundaries when they are crossed. I used to be feminine with insecurity and a lack of being able to assert boundaries. I am now feminine with the ability to do that, and it has actually made me more feminine because I no longer need to fit into every norm (okay with wearing dresses in casual settings, not needing to worry about whether …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:57 PM
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Of course! It’s important to make sure you’re listening to reliable sources. However it’s more likely that someone who is educated will have a better opinion on the topic they have been educated about than redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:47 PM
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No worries!! But that’s what I mean when I say a lot of it is misconceptions as to what it looks like 😭😭 I think a lot of people are less judgmental when looking at others face to face
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:43 PM
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Very true but you’re a woman 😭 so not part of the group I’m referring to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:42 PM
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I notice because they are talking to me directly normally. I don’t count glances/staring/etc. as part of this only when they directly talk to me. If I am focused on myself or where I’m going I wouldn’t realize it for other people unless it was obvious 😭😭 If you look around for it more you’ll definitely see the way that people look at each other or ones that randomly walk up or make comments to women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:41 PM
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Nope they’re sister sizes so someone of the same size can wear them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 06:40 PM
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I have no idea what percent of men do it I just am aware of how often it happens. Likewise women also walk up to men or other women if they are queer and ask them out which has also happened quite a few times on my campus. I really think it’s likely that you just do not notice it because tbh there is no reason for you to notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:02 PM
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What’s the difference between a 32c and 30d then
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 05:00 PM
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I think most of the men on here who say they wouldn’t date an overweight woman actually have no concept or idea of what that could even look like. They use arbitrary numbers and measurements they don’t understand like men don’t know what a 30c vs 32d means and then they say they wouldn’t date someone like that while actively crushing on women who have those exact characteristics. However tbh I think it’s good to be attracted to your partner. If you do not like how they look that is okay, but you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:01 PM
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I think the problem is the very thing that you’re writing here. You’re letting the opinions of outside people without academic or professional qualifications totally change your views constantly. The easiest way to stay centered is to have a diverse friend group and be open with them and have these conversations with them. Man hating is bad, and we also know that woman hating is bad. Find women who want to be friends with men, and I really do want to stress this find men who actually want to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:54 PM
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Yeah I wholeheartedly agree with you. I think it’s an entirely different set of obstacles and people are too quick to project their own experiences onto it. I’m sorry if you’ve experienced that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:49 PM
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Yes being attractive does matter in terms of a lot of different aspects of life including both romantic and platonic relationships. The reason why people tell others to be themselves is because they are coming from a perspective where they believe there is someone for everyone. The primary reason why this advice may not be good or applicable is because instead of it coming from professionals it comes from other people who are less likely to be fully invested in the romantic lives of others
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:11 AM
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They probably have and just don’t tell you about it. I don’t know any women who have not experienced something akin to that. It might also be geographical.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:06 AM
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Ah yes my pajama pants and top are so incredibly sexual that it warrants you writing this message here. Thank you for your incredible input.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:41 AM
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It honestly really makes me sad to see how much you can’t react to what I actually said and instead use lines from some youtuber to parrot information. Men and women are both human beings who are equal. Men and women both experience different kinds of systemic issues. You could be unique in this but I wonder how many times you couldn’t fall asleep at night because a man would send packages to your house, threaten to kill you, and also talk about dismembering your body despite the fact that you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:41 AM
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I know women who struggle to be in relationships. I know men who struggle as well. My point is that both men and women have different but equal hardships. And to only focus on your gender and only care about your gender’s hardships is unfortunate. Also to only ever suggest that there is one problem and it’s the lack of sex that women offer men also is unproductive and honestly weird
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:18 AM
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And just because men are not in a relationship does not mean they are not getting around either. Men have less options, but the average man absolutely does have options. This shouldn’t be a conversation about us as individuals. It’s also quite sad that you cannot be friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:52 PM
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They can have friends who are also women. I’m not denying that they are lonelier or sadder, I am saying that there are certain things they can do to make the loneliness slightly better. I do not even think that you and I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:38 PM
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Ok maybe it happens less to some people. It happens very often with a number of men and women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:33 PM
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You don’t have to be murdered to be threatened. It is normal to be scared of being threatened. I do not understand how you could view that as misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:32 PM
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Most women do. Not all women. Most men do. Not all men. I don’t like excessive generalizations. People are unique individuals that cannot be spoken about in this capacity especially without any sociological studies. My point is that the average person has the ability to have someone be attracted to them regardless of sex. And I think friendships and background in being able to be independent massively matters to happiness. A lot of men nowadays do not even have a single friend. This is a huge pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:26 PM
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It’s not misandry to point out the very real fact that women are typically weaker than men and going outside alone at night can be dangerous. It is common sense for most women to avoid this. If it is misandry to have this opinion then idk what to tell you considering men have tried to assault me a number of times at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:23 PM
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I know women like this. I don’t like them. They are mean to my male friends, and they are obviously also irrationally hateful. I encourage them to get help, but I also go with my male friends to settings with women like that to avoid problems. They have before hung out with my friends and just openly said they thought it would be so funny to pretend they were being sexually abused by my guy friends. This is unacceptable behavior. Women like that need help, and they need it from a professional ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:21 PM
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Sometimes men like being friends with women as well. You’re right though a lot of the time it’s for romantic interest. I actually do have a few male friends I like. When asking yourself this question ask yourself how it’s possible for bisexual people to have friends. The answer is sometimes they are interested in the person they’re talking to and sometimes they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:15 PM
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I think I’m considered to be one. I fit the “conventional” standards of what is attractive in the US rn. But yeah I get approached very often which is why it surprises me that it is being questioned whether or not it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:10 PM
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Most men can absolutely get a girlfriend. Most women can absolutely get a boyfriend. My male friends do not struggle to get women interested in them and never have. I’m sure some men do, but I really don’t think it’s the reason why men struggle to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:07 PM
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I could find a guy who I find attractive. I’m not attracted to the one in the photo so I would not go for someone like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:04 PM
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In public especially if she is with a group of people if you could get her alone and give her your number that is cute During the day alone if she isn’t in a rush is also acceptable If she is a colleague of yours and the two of you clearly like each other it is ok to ask If she is in a class of yours do the number thing again. Lots of men make the mistake of then following her around which is not as okay. Then obviously any socializing events as well
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:03 PM
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I think this is why it’s important to talk to both men and women about these things. This narrative is perpetuated by men typically close to women in order to protect them. Fathers warning daughters, brothers being protective, and a lot of guardian roles in women’s lives. Idk what conversations you listen to but I talk about relationships with my male friends constantly. They love talking about that stuff. We are human and social creatures so yeah they like discussing it. Women love discussing i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:01 PM
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Thank you! I think most women who regularly experience this also have the same perspective that I do. There is nothing wrong with someone being interested in another person. However I think it is important to not say that these experiences do not happen often simply on the basis that you do not experience it. For instance a good friend of mine is a very attractive guy. Women fawn over him constantly. Granted they don’t actually ask him out directly as often, but they absolutely look at him and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:55 PM
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One time while dating a girlfriend of mine, she pointed out how oftentimes we recognize that there are hardships in interracial dating and dating of different citizenship status on the basis of being able to understand the trauma one person went through. However that does not exist for opposite sex dating. It is an incredibly different life experience to be a woman or to be a man or to be nb. We are cognizant that these experiences are different, but as a society we don’t really prepare couples …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:52 PM
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Women care when it is creepy. No one really cares too much if it is not. “Checking out” and “creepy” are vague terms. I do not like it when men check me out by staring at me for five minutes straight and walking up to me afterwards. I do not like it when they take photos of me. I do not care if they just say they like my outfit and walk away, and I actually normally appreciate comments about my outfits since I put a lot of effort into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:49 PM
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It’s also because women have relationships with other women that are more emotionally developed. They tend to be able to be vulnerable with their friends, and they don’t have to worry about how society views it. Unfortunately men are seen negatively when they are vulnerable with their peers. Also women are taught a lot more skills for home maintenance growing up than their male peers. This would mean that they are probably more prepared to take care of a home. If men were in the same situation f…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:46 PM
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I think genuinely because you are a man you do not realize how often it happens. If I go outside on my college campus for over 30 minutes it’s almost a guarantee someone will talk to me or approach me. Now a lot of them do it in good faith, and it doesn’t bother me. However when it is done in an inappropriate way I find it to be very offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:42 PM
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The reason why you’re demonized is because you are taking opinions on things that are facts (do women enjoy sex) and you believe that for some reason your opinion is more important than verifiable reality That is why people do not like you or give you time. You absolutely could sleep with people you do not because of the attitude you have
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:25 AM
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I would be interested in his personality. I haven’t dated anyone like this in a long time, but I actually did date a man I was not attracted to physically at all. The reason why was because I liked who he was. We didn’t work out but the why is because when you get old when you live with someone for your whole life you won’t be physically attractive anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:21 AM
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🥴 why are you so emotional about this? If no one understands what you are saying it is natural to be asked to rephrase
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:09 AM
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Then why did you bother making a post on a debate forum if you are not interested in talking to people. I’m willing to hear you out you just need to rephrase what you said since none of us understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:32 AM
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I think what you’re talking about brings up a very interesting topic related to sociolinguistics. When speaking about the “default” or “unmarked” group we are cognizant of the fact that it is men. This means that when women are pointed out as being women it is actually doing the exact opposite language wise than what you are trying to write here. Men are the default. As a result, women are seen as being unique and they need to be pointed out since it is the “counter” to being “normal” This is wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:24 AM
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I honestly think that the hype surrounding makeup is based on people perpetually being on social media. Women in real life tend to not wear heavy makeup (because it looks ugly in person but great in photos), and you would pretty much be unable to tell. The reason why there’s a disparity is because women also tend to take more care of themselves in terms of hygiene. Of course, sometimes wearing mascara doesn’t hurt. I wear makeup decently frequently for fun, and I do not wear it more than 2x a we…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:20 AM
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You are by definition a hypocrite so instead what I’m assuming you actually mean is whether or not being hypocritical would be justifiable based on some amorphous difference of men and women. Your future girlfriend is not an attachment of you. You cannot tell her who to be or what to do. If you’re concerned about her cheating does that mean you intend to cheat on her every “once in a blue moon” and if so why do you even want a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:17 AM
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Thank you! For future reference I think it would be best to not randomly accuse people of poisoning themselves when they are talking about something entirely unrelated to that. I appreciate you wishing me well, but I should not have to justify drinking on a holiday weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:15 AM
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The context is that you believe (despite the fact that reality disagrees with you) that men and women are good at different skill sets right? And as a result of that you believe the skills that men are good at should lead to higher expectations in those skills as well. However, the skills you think men are better at you have 0 evidence for and once again no one agrees with you. So instead you insult everyone telling you this makes no sense and claim that people cannot read. If everyone says the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 11:13 AM
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Oh because I’ve been very physically sick for a long time now but I can’t be prescribed opioids since they’re concerned about addiction. So I occasionally have a beer since it eases the excruciating pain. I am not poisoning myself (:
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:45 AM
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You did say that men are more capable cognitively which is untrue. Both women and men are equal in life and in the workplace. It is unfortunate that some people seem to think otherwise even now.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:42 AM
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It will depend on the woman. You should ask the woman you are interested in specifically what she would like. Since my girlfriend is a unique individual and I cannot generalize her I simply asked her what her comfort zone with extreme emotions would be. Based on that, we have been able to fully express ourselves and it was a good indicator of our compatibility. If you match with someone who does not understand or like emotions to the extent you do you are not compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:07 AM
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If you have money = you will have children if you desire The vast majority of Americans are incapable of affording having the amount of children they would like. Even if they have one, they often do not have the number of kids they would want to. It’s fallacious oftentimes to call them “self made” as they often have more opportunities and advantages than the typical person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:05 AM
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Women like confidence, people who are themselves, and people who reflect themselves. Women and men are not all identical. Women and men do not all like identical things. Women like people in the same way men like people. This is because women are also complex people who cannot be fully understood in a couple of paragraphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:02 AM
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Men statistically use dating apps more than women. This doesn’t make sense. That is the reason why women have more luck on dating apps. Women are more sought after than men in a select few modern countries. This blanket generalization isn’t applicable to reality or really anywhere outside of maybe a small, isolated town that you live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 12:01 AM
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I am heavily drunk so what I am about to say may not be written in the best way possible. It takes someone with very poor statistical knowledge and understanding to make the argument that men are more cognitively capable than women (not to mention just poor understanding of the world around them). You can speak to any statistician, anyone with a BS in any kind of math, and you would hear the same thing. Each individual person has strengths and weaknesses. Men actually oftentimes have lower expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:59 PM
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You’re entirely right. The guys I know in my life who have gotten the most women consistently are not even muscular. You’re also right about it not meaning that they are happy 😭😭
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:59 AM
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They are skinny and lanky. I’ve dated them in the past. There is nothing wrong with being skinny, and it is very attractive. You’re right in the sense that they are fit because they are healthy. However, they do not have the muscle definition that was mentioned in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:25 PM
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I guess you’ve been absent for the entire eboy trend and women going crazy over anime characters that quite literally are just skinny lanky boys. I take it you’re also a woman who knows all women 🥴
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 10:17 PM
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Certain aspects of the red pill can absolutely lead to good relationships and being able to sleep around. Focusing on your appearance, confidence, work, emotional stability, and overall charisma is very important to women. The problem with the red pill is the conclusions it draws about women post giving some solid advice. It absolutely can give good opinions otherwise. I also really don’t think they are sleeping around as much as they claim to tbh. Additionally as someone who dates both men and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:38 PM
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Most women do not want overly muscular men. They just want men who are physically healthy and may have some definition in a distinct part of their body (arms, etc.) That is why you have the dichotomy of women wanting muscular stars and also absolutely adoring very skinny, lanky men. They do not only want muscle. I believe all beauty standards regularly change due to media influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:34 PM
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For your situation and your partners that is how it has worked out for you. I am glad and that is totally fine. I like buying and giving things to everyone so it’s not a huge transition for me. For instance, I like cooking or doing other chores for friends if they need it. Wanting to help people or give them things is not “love bombing” sometimes people just like to give a lot to others. It is okay if you don’t do that. What is not okay is to then say women don’t contribute to relationships whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:08 PM
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Absolutely protect your belongings. I am of the opinion that when you live with someone or marry someone it becomes “ours” rather than just one persons. I don’t have to agree with you, and I’m not entirely sure what you’re even arguing about. I would not live with someone and actively be in a long term relationship while asking them to pay rent. When I will pay for my girlfriend’s housing shortly she will do extra grocery shopping, cooking, and other chores that benefit us both. Because I believ…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 04:04 PM
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If you are that concerned about it maybe you shouldn’t live with your partner yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:25 PM
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I’m bisexual. I’ve dated multiple men and have been in long term relationships with several. I don’t believe it’s atypical to buy your partner things/take care of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:37 PM
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That’s because it’s rare for men to be shorter than women. It’s not because every woman wants a 6’0+ guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:28 PM
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Men are continually praised for doing things that women are expected to do already. Men are praised for taking care of children, having an interest in hygiene, and being good at cooking. I’m really surprised that you believe women get praised for these things more than men. It’s expected that we do it. And you’re right planning is not exclusive to men or women. That’s why I disagree with the notion that women never do anything in early dating for their male partners. And as a word of advice: no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:27 PM
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That does happen during early relationships. Short of the moving in together it’s a pretty normal expectation to help take care of your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 06:21 PM
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You’re so right! They act like it’s surprising to see a short man with a taller woman or a man who doesn’t fit the conventionally attractive stereotype with a pretty woman 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:03 PM
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Thank you for having this conversation with me! I really appreciated it (:
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:57 PM
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Thank you for writing all of that and feeling comfortable sharing it. I genuinely really appreciate it. Let me reword what I’m saying because you’re right the way I phrased it was inappropriate, and I am sorry for that. In terms of broad trends I do think the types of hatred can be different. I do not mean to say that you cannot be bullied, abused, or taken advantage of. In my mind, I actually associate a lot of the negative interactions you’ve experienced as being connected to the more traditio…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 02:12 PM
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What is the point that you’re making? Women like being attracted to their partners? I like feminine men. Around the same height as me, and emotionally competent. I like people who are fit regardless of their gender. The type of men that I go for definitely do not fit the archetype that you’re talking about. People are just diverse. Likewise, there are a lot of men who like masculine women. What would be the best thing for men would be for them to be themselves and stop worrying about being broad…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:52 PM
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I think the utilities and food is a great idea! I don’t like the idea of rent because it makes your relationship seem too transactional. I guess it also depends on how long you have been dating your girlfriend. I’ve been working toward a rather nice apartment for several years now. When I fully get it my girlfriend will live there for free and may help a bit extra when it comes to cooking/cleaning since I’ll mainly be providing. I think the best course of action is just to talk to her. We don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:46 PM
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We do the emotional labor, cleaning, cooking, a lot of us are providers because women are now more educated than men and it has been that way in many societies before ours now. We raise children, plan dates, etc. Men like you always shock me because it makes me wonder who you think does stuff in lesbian relationships. Do you think my girlfriend and I don’t handle the things that you associate with men? Why do statistics for lesbians show that we are happier than straight couples? The reason why …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:40 PM
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I agree that men definitely can also internalize that hatred. However, the reason why I mention that it’s different is because internalizing hatred from a male perspective often means abusing women physically or even assaulting them (like the Tate followers that you mentioned). I think most women are just nervous because there has definitely been an uptick in that behavior during recent years. You’re 100% right though that that doesn’t mean women should be aggressive or rude toward men in genera…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:36 PM
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Okay I know them now as well and they are almost all done with college. Still, they have never had a romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:13 AM
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I think people are underestimating how vicious both men and women can be. I used to be anorexic, and I was also underage during that stretch of my life. I received a ton of male attention despite my age by teachers, students, strangers, friends of my family, etc. I have been a healthy weight on the smaller side for the last 5-6 years. People have varying opinions. I have been told that I am too thin, too flat chested, too fat, too curvy and anything you could possibly think. Hell, I’ve even had …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:31 AM
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You should not associate with people who treat you personally poorly. It does not matter if you are a man and men tend to hurt women. It does not mean that anyone should be insulting or hurting your feelings. Additionally though hatred from fear is not the same thing as disconnected hatred. Men hating women is not the same thing as women hating men. Women in those situations need help a lot of the time because they have internalized a lot of pain and suffering. It is not your responsibility to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:22 AM
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Men often can’t tell if women are wearing makeup or not so I do not think for the vast majority it is that deceptive. I have had boyfriends who cannot tell the difference between when I wear eyeshadow/mascara/eyeliner/lipstick and when I have nothing at all on my skin. Also I mean wearing flattering clothes could be deceptive or growing a beard. I’m not really sure how it is “unfair” to have makeup on when most people do not care or wear makeup heavy enough for people to even really notice. Conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:14 AM
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You’re 100% correct. I have friends of both genders and both of them never approach anyone and wait for someone to seek them out. Fortunately that works well for them, but I do not see men actively trying harder than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:10 AM
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In high school there were three girls who were part of my friend group who had received no male attention at any point in their lives. It’s unlikely, but it’s possible. I also don’t really know what the point of the question would be in general. They weren’t repulsive they just kept to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:08 AM
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All human beings have contradictions, and it is perfectly normal to have your feelings be convoluted sometimes. Everyone has that including women. There is pressure for women to look a specific way that cannot be done without makeup/filters/procedures. This makes a lot of women uncomfortable and feel insecure. Women are also taught that their worth is based entirely on their appearance and appeal to men. Women will also definitely notice when they fit more into the standard that they have been a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:55 AM
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My point is that if you say they only wear makeup and change their body for male attention it seems like too much of a generalization. Also this is a subreddit about debating these issues. Idk why you think you’re any different than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 04:02 PM
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I really don’t understand how you can say that. There are things you do to exist that do not involve being appealing to women. Likewise, women can do things that are not intended to be appealing to men. How is it so hard to understand that some women may just genuinely want to wear makeup or want to have surgery for a reason other than male attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:16 PM
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I am not sure why it would be “most” if you’re naming really niche kinds of mentalities that hardly appear in people. What is super common: 1. Threatening women 2. Saying you’ll hurt women 3. Saying you’ll take advantage of women 4. Using foul language to describe women 5. Saying you’re smarter than women 6. Objectifying women 7. Hurting women 8. Wanting to control women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:55 PM
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So in your mind every single thing I wear no matter what it is would get attention from men. So then the idea that it has to be specific types of clothes or makeup already doesn’t make sense because you’re saying I would get attention anyway. Why would I bother putting in so much extra effort into my appearance just to get the same attention I would get without it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:51 PM
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My point is that I think you’re not considering that the impression you give may just be someone who is confident rather than someone who is being awful to women. I really can’t possibly think of a way any of it would work otherwise. Women do not like being treated like garbage or not being given attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:49 PM
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Okay but what about the other things I wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:46 PM
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I’m 20. I’m in the age range that you’re talking about being more desirable. I’m capable of understanding that there is a difference between myself and someone over a decade older than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:34 PM
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Yes and I also date both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:37 AM
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What do I have to wear to get you to not notice me?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:28 AM
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Statistically men might hurt me. My experience anecdotally says men will hurt me. I am scared until I know you won’t hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:58 AM
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People like confidence. 2 and 2.5 are you saying that you are confident. 1 and 3 unless stated directly could literally just give the perception that you are independent. If you told women these sentiments directly they would not like you (probably). It’s the way you frame it because, as you mentioned before, you’re used to be kind that makes them interpret it as less cruel. Women do not want to be treated horribly. I date both women and men. Every girlfriend I have had hates that. I fit into th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:55 AM
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I think it fully depends on the situation. 25 is at an age where I think the distinction isn’t as obvious, but I mean something like 20 and 35 would also strike me as odd. Gender would not matter in that situation. I find it strange because the 20 year old is in a very different place in life than the 35 year old. Also for everyone saying that it is easier to date an older woman, I actually don’t agree with that sentiment. Older women are more likely to be cognizant of manipulative tactics becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:50 AM
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My bunny is part of my daily life and family. If I had a partner who did not want me to keep the bunny, it would be obvious before I actually started officially being with them due to the fact that my bunny lives with me. I would not be interested in pursuing a long term relationship because I cannot fathom liking someone who was terrible to my pet. If I were to see my bunny in pain I would not be interested in the person who caused it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:46 AM
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Asexual people can be women… that also was only one small part of what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:42 AM
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Would you have the same stance if we generalized it and said he wouldn’t be interested in sex of any kind at all? Sex is important to a lot of people in relationships. There’s nothing wrong with him not wanting to do it. However that does not mean that I want to continue being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:17 PM
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What about asexual people? What about people who are uninterested in having a partner? What about queer people? Have you ever done anything that could be under the umbrella of self care before? If so, do you not believe that self care could also apply to doing your makeup? Do you believe wanting to have a body you take care of and like could count as self care? Additionally people are dysmorphic, uncomfortable with their bodies, and it actually is irrelevant whether or not people find them attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:45 AM
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I would be interested in why that were the case with him. If there happened to be a valid or good reason for it I wouldn’t be upset (trauma relating to it or something similar). If it were simply because he didn’t want to put in the energy for it that would be different and would cause a rift. It would not make sense to me why he would consider his pleasure more important than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:36 AM
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No one. I’ve said that there are things that matter other than looks along with looks mattering as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:35 PM
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I should rephrase. There is a difference between reading social situations and trying to speak to women in a way that you believe would work well and trying to implicitly insult them to make them believe that you are the best person who would ever like them. In other words if PUAs genuinely believed the things they did or genuinely had opinions corroborated with reality/statistics I would have no problem with it. Confident people will always have more partners than people who are not confident b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:54 PM
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Most women are on social media, have a social circle, or participate in some kind of activity with both men and women frequently. They meet their partner in person or through an avenue other than apps typically associated with wanting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:45 PM
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They try tactics to manipulate people rather than relying on how they actually feel about situations. It creates a vibe of viewing women as things to win rather than to approach or view as people. There is absolutely nothing wrong with advocating for men to be confident. The issue comes in when their confidence would be based on the amount of women they could manipulate to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:43 PM
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You could absolutely just ask a more specific question! In other words like “what do you think your strengths are in relationships?” Or “What do you excel at?” Context is definitely important though so it would have to seem like genuine interest rather than a gotcha question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:40 PM
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It’s a bad question because it’s phrased as an accusation. You do not ask that question unless you’re implying that the other person has no traits or qualities that you have openly noticed which is why you have to ask. It is implicitly asking “I can’t see what you could possibly bring to the table to want someone with x or y quality. What could someone like you offer?” Not to mention, the assumption that qualities can be added up in order to make a relationship equal makes no sense. People are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:21 AM
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By that reasoning men also objectify themselves constantly. Why do men do [any activity here] clearly they want to be objectified! In reality all of the skills you are talking about women practicing are things that they do alone without the company of men. Women wear makeup when no one is there, and they are not learning how to do eyeliner for men because most cannot tell. A woman wanting to feel confident is distinctly different from a woman wanting to objectify herself. OnlyFans is not compara…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 06:39 PM
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