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I think what OP /u/WalrusExcellent5686 is actually highlighting is the difference between community and privatization. It's the difference in how people relate through monetary markets built on differential advantage gained through rent-seeking of the commons, vs systems of reciprocity and mutuality where people work together toward and for the common (both the commons and the community). In that sense, as far as I see it, all monetary transactions in the former case are forms of prostitution. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:07 PM
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There's a difference between a soulless transactional relationship than a loving relationship that's transactional because they are giving. No relationship can live and feed on love alone. I agree. I actually think our relationships mirror our economics in some way, and in this sense you can have relationships that lean more communistic and are based on reciprocity and mutuality, or you can have relationships lean more capitalist and be built on credit and a more stringent form of accounting. Bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:46 PM
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First, I think there are a lot of men who do need that information. It's kind of the whole reason why the red pill gained popularity among men in the first place. It cut through the illusions and masks of the culture and feminine games. Secondly, I truly don't think most non-red-pill individuals feel comfortable admitting the transactional nature of a relationship, partly because it undercuts narratives of love (love is dead) and partly because it means they have to confront the nature of the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:27 AM
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This is exactly it. The truth is wielded as a weapon when it's useful, obfuscated when it's detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:19 AM
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To feel entitled to something is to believe that one is literally owed it. How else do you blame someone for not being attracted to you? The entire implication there is that the attraction should exist where it doesn't, or else all you're doing is pointing out the tautologically obvious (woman: I'm not attracted to you. Man: you aren't attracted to me). It's meaningless unless it carries with it this implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:31 AM
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Attraction cannot be reasoned like that even if it can be manipulated on a social/political level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:17 AM
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If a woman is looking for commitment and keeps choosing guys who won't commit, then she should look inward. But a woman desiring a man, rather than needing him for her economic wellbeing, should make men much happier. After all, wouldn't you rather be with a woman who wants to be with you rather than needs you for your resources? The caveat is that means that men have to be attractive to women. womp womp. I don't find this problematic on a personal level. I do find it problematic on a societal l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:14 AM
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It absolutely is, but the reality is that they are operating on the same exact underlying value system that the red pill highlights as dominant (either as a result of cultural aspects or biological or both) but it behooves their sexual strategy to hide this. Feminists and blue pillers tell the truth through obfuscation. Another one is when women say "we don't need men now, so why would we not raise our standards?". What are they actually saying there? They are saying that the dominant reason why…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:08 AM
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It's funny because the dominant values of western society are red pill. People do believe that a man's worth is in part determined by his ability to attract the romantic attention of women. So all these blue pillers and feminists that use incel as an insult are just showing their true colors (red). And on top of that, a majority of the red pill content before it became mainstream was more of an observation of cultural attitudes and patterns of behavior. People getting upset over pointing that ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:46 AM
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It is worthwhile to look at women who complain about all their ex boyfriends and question whether or not they are taking any accountability for what they are and are not attracting. Overall, though, I don't think it's a bad thing that women have more economic, social, and political independence in the world. I'm glad they can be more honest about what they want and less manipulative. But I think there are downsides we have to be honest about. For example, I think most of our relationships are ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:36 AM
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Consistently sexualizing strangers is pathological bro People unconsciously make all sorts of prejudgments about people based on how they look, sound, smell, hold themselves. That's not mental disease (pathology), that's just a part of how organisms relate to and situate themselves within the world around them. Sexual attraction seems to me to just be a byproduct of some set of these stimuli, and something not in the direct control of any single individual. Ignoring it is tantamount to saying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:28 AM
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then the entirety of governed society is built on entitlement Isn't this true, though? Just think about notions of "duty" or "civic duty" or even common courtesy and keeping the commons clean. Even the economic mode demanding that you work at threat of destitution is an entitlement on your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 02:26 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:50 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:45 PM
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I agree, but I point that out because "declining birth rates" is a euphemism for ethnocentric policies, which happens to prevent the discussion from revealing the simplest solution to the problem; porous borders with good economic prospects for outsiders on the other side. People don't get to be OK with the rape and pillage of other geographic regions and their resources and then feign ignorance when the populations of those regions follow where the wealth was hoarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:43 PM
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Short term solution to a long term problem I think to the extent the human population declines, the only preventable phenomena would be war and human created disaster. Beyond that, you react and respond to what happens to the degree that you have any control over it. Your rebuttal is analogous to refusing to repair the infrastructure of america because eventually Yellowstone is going to erupt. u don’t find and issue with taking large amount of workers from other countries delaying their developm…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:29 PM
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The human population is not declining. Birth rates in particular locations among particular groups of people are declining. Also, some areas have a large segment of elderly individual who are and will continue to die. So if you need more people to do jobs in one area, you attract talent with money. Offer good wages and prospects for a good life and people will fill the void. But this topic is always about "brown people bad" so the very simple solution to declining birth rates can't be talked abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:09 PM
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Governments are far worse than evil corporations, actually. They go hand in hand (no such thing as a free market). Nation states are just private contractors for resources acquisition and enforcement of property norms, and money movers choose the lowest bidder that they believe will be most successful, mediated by geographic location and resource access. You don't have private property norms without an enforcement apparatus that can enforce those norms regardless of consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 11:03 PM
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Men only want one thing. Raw ....data.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:07 AM
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Exactly. The audacity of men to want healthy women to be their partner. Someone who actually cares about the relationship and is willing to put in her own work for it so its reciprocal. So problematic for men to want this. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:43 PM
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You say this like it’s bad - those are all incredibly positive traits so idk who wouldn’t want that in their life "The audacity for men to want healthy women as their partner!" is basically her argument
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:38 PM
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Love to see that men wanting intimacy and romance with women is somehow seen as a bad thing now (No, wanting romance and intimacy is not the same as wanting a bangmaid or a therapist or whatever you guys like to say). Women are realists masqurading as romantics. Everything is a power play for them. They will only outwardly and positively accept reality if it is expedient (or else they are convinced it is) for them to do so. So when it is expedient, they will accept it, and when it is undeniable …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:28 PM
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I genuinely think it's just hormonal cycles. I think what sets us apart from other animals is our ability to create a narrative. "love" to explain biochemical phenomena that we maybe don't understand well is one example of this. But the narrative around love is dying. Our narratives live in the gaps; they are our gods. Whether our narratives happen before or after the fact doesn't really matter because we're incredibly good at dismissing information that argues against them (confirmation bias). …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:24 PM
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I don't know what I'd do as far as romantic love, knowing it's essentially unattainable, unearnable, and unbearable for (most? nearly all?) men. Not just this, though. It's also that wherever it exists (at least for men in heteronormative relationships), it's a manipulation by women for their own security and well-being. It's never honest or genuine even if they think it is. nietzsche said "god is dead" but I think this applies to the narrative of "love" as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:18 PM
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You should just tag yourself as "red pill" already. It's funny how the cultural attitude has changed so quickly, but women will only ever accept reality if they can frame it as "See? I've got the power". There is nothing a woman does out of humility or honesty... but at least y'all are getting there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:16 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVpIUeD6gY
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:13 PM
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Is it really just a want when their whole sense of identity and self worth and sometimes their whole motivation to keep on living is tied to us providing those things? That's a pretty goddamn strong want. You sound like the incels arguing that sex is a need. Do you really want to go down that road?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:04 PM
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Given your comment history, I'm not sure I should see you as human "It's my trauma" See how it doesn't go both ways for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:53 PM
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Because another woman might be willing to go into more of a diatribe, instead of seeing you as an NPC Seeing people as an NPC is a very woman thing; psychopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:18 PM
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I'm sure this is how you satisfy your need for attention from women, but go bother someone else.. wait... why'd it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:15 PM
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Nobody cares about your feelings. Get over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:09 PM
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Women also said they'd go to the bear lol. And then you get the woman hiker in California that encounters a bear and runs straight to a strange man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:09 PM
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There are thousands of men who practice celibacy and they are considered the best among men… They are monks/sages/saints An untested virtue is no virtue at all, though. I think deep down everyone kinda understands this (hence the value judgement of women's number of sexual partners vs men's). We have free information all over the internet to know the ultimate truth about reality… But they choose to be included in the society that is not built for them….i am sure they will realize it by reading t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 11:54 PM
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You're sick with feminist brain rot. Eat some soup and feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 10:54 PM
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The critique being made not only shows nothing necessarily about the character of the individual making the critique, but it doesn't depend on the character of the individual making the critique being any particular way. So you're just being a woman here trying to avoid accountability, which actually betrays your own character as it shows that you, likely, are one of the women that make excuses for bad behavior if he is charming and attractive enough. Conservative party always accuses others of …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:54 PM
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This make sense that something that affects your ability to socialize would have enormous effects on your dating success. Women are the american conservative party of the social field. They don't care if you're a rapist, a child rapist, a crook, a thief, a killer. But holy shit if you stumble over your words or look a bit awkward socially...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:39 PM
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Yeah I'm not sold on masking as a good solution. I think the world is shit, not the people that don't fit in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:36 PM
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when i grow up i wanna be a caterpillar
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:33 PM
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It also says a lot about at least one autistic man that he still wants to date a woman so fundamentally broken. He never said he wanted to date this woman, he expressed confusion that this man gets attention from women who know his history, while he gets none. The confusion and frustration is with regards to the fact that clearly, through women's free choice, their standards include exceptions for child abuse but not for autism. It pushes back against the misandrist cultural belief that women ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:19 PM
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bro ima be 100% honest i don’t think people who are attracted to malicious people are okay mentally I think while this is true (the insight here being that the majority of modern western women are emotionally stunted people incapable of being truly good mothers or role models), the darker truth is that for most people 'character' simply doesn't matter. People will date who they are physically and emotionally attracted to and then make excuses for all kinds of horrible traits and behaviors. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:12 PM
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Confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:08 PM
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I'm not going to let you gas light me into thinking I'm a bad person and that's why I'm alone Amen, brother. This cultural belief that women as selectors are "perfect" selectors and never problematic themselves is horribly misandrist. Behind every problematic man in a hetero-normative relationship is a problematic woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:04 PM
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Reality has a well known 'call-women-out-on-their-shit' bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 11:02 PM
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It's like telling a friend that when they have a good laugh with one of their other friends, it devalues the laugh they have with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:28 PM
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That's only with regards to loneliness but I agree it takes a lot more character to be a man in the world just by default. But women face the same inherent problems of the human condition but they generally speaking are not capable of transcending them so it manifests as resentment that they almost always direct towards the men they choose to have in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 03:36 AM
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I'm asking you to consider why humanity is successful. Is this along the lines of freud's notion of sublimation? If that is not what women wanted, what incentives this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:47 PM
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They want everything from one man so it's kinda their fault. Diversify your assets or something. become a loose hippy bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:37 PM
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I can agree with the rest. Though I do think women have it easier in dating in general not just because they have more options (Which they do) but also because women are usually allowed to be themselves while men have to be, confident, masculine, socially skilled across a wide variety of contexts, planners, leader, ambitious, and also make sure you don't show her your flaws until she's comfortable with them. I think similarly to the saying "men are romantics masqurading as realists and women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:19 PM
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Attraction isn't chosen, as far as I can tell. So I don't know how anyone can be blamed for what they are attracted to, only on what they act on. Also, so long as women are OK with sharing men (which they seem to be in the upper trends of men) then I don't see why it would be a problem for women specifically if they are majority attracted to the same 20% or so of men. Of course that says nothing about the women or men that would be upset by this arrangement, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 10:15 PM
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Yeah... you're not wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 05:31 AM
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I'm not saying they are literally saying they aren't true women, I'm saying they are making a "no true scotsman" fallacy with regard to what constitutes "woman" in these counter examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:52 AM
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Maybe that's also part of the trick for them? They compete socially and, at least for those that feel they can or do "win", it boosts their mood and sense of belonging and security. It's just the same thing everywhere else, isn't it? The game is awesome for people that win it, less so but still awesome for people that think they have a chance if they keep at it, and not so great for those that just lose all the time.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/25 03:03 AM
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Then how is trauma dumping and treating other people like a free therapist gonna help? I wish women had this standard for themselves because a woman trauma dumping is just another wednesday. A man trauma dumping and that's the quiet canary in the coal mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:02 PM
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The neck beard is more repulsive and that's all that matters really. Men need to shave according to women's standards but a woman not shaving her armpits for a little while = challenging the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:57 PM
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Many women don't want a solution, they just want to vent and be validated. It's true until they do want a solution and then if you don't present one it's your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:57 PM
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Because the men dont go and would rather trauma on other people for free. Whenever women have a problem, everyone rushes to figure out how to fix it and why. Whenever men have a problem, women blame the men. I think most women are projecting. They are the american conservative party of the gender dynamic. Always telling on themselves through their own accusations. In any case, if you're interested.... One interesting tidbit - 92% of men who took their lives were actively seeking help. But leave …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:30 PM
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lol south of 70 is where i live, man. this is home for me. (no seriously, i'm stupid)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:24 PM
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Tinder hahaha come on, those women will end up slashing your tires the next morning that place is for spending one night with a pretty face then leaving with slashed tires. So when data refutes your point you're saying these aren't "true women".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:20 PM
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I guess you're just saying there needs to be some modicum of social decency in line with cultural norms in the great majority of interactions with people to even get beyond the first impression greeting phase? Yeah...sure. But that doesn't mean he isn't toxic or that women won't overlook some toxic traits (same with men) because of insecurities, or inexperience with what healthy relationships are, or attraction. To say otherwise is to imply 1) that women are perfect selectors (even they would di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:15 PM
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No, this is not fun for me anymore. You're a very mean person and you should feel bad for being mean to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:08 PM
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can i call you mommy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:45 PM
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Now you just gotta make sure he doesn't get any false accusations lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:45 PM
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The only ones that talk about this shit (online) in 2025 are the losers I agree but who else would you expect to criticize the actual rules of a game most than those that lose the game? Just because they point out the rules (and happen to be losers) of the game doesn't mean they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:37 AM
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My comment was as relevant to you as your comment was as relevant to what I said. You get what you give. You were incorrect in what you said and I pointed it out and you didn't want to accept it. Sorry babes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:32 AM
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Thank you! I have a teenager and come to this sub to learn how to prevent him from turning into a RP/black pill follower. Your best bet is to make sure he is competent "in the sexual marketplace" err uhm..i mean...make sure he has options in dating. If he can play that game effectively enough with not too many devastating losses he will be less likely to want to look under the hood and see how the game operates (hopefully he has a good father figure?). So you have to walk the line between a play…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:30 AM
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The only ones that talk about this shit (online) in 2025 are the losers I agree but who else would you expect to criticize the actual rules of a game most than those that lose the game? Just because they point out the rules (and happen to be losers) of the game doesn't mean they are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:29 AM
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aromantic is the same as atheist. It's a matter of suspending ones disbelief enough to fit a narrative into their framework of the world or not so long as its helpful enough (which is likely not even a choice; i.e. doxastic involuntaryism).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:26 AM
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What i support in this post is, that romanticism (idealistic views about romance) are not based in reality and should be avoided, in order to not be delusional or get hurt unneccessarily hard. I would say that romanticism renders certain parts of reality "quiet" in order to preserve the psychological well-being of as many game players as possible through their failures, while also serving as a decent enough heuristic to operate by. (It's also responsible for great literature.) For example, "Love…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:24 AM
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OP is totally wrong and his premise is pretty similar to a situation when men claim that women are asexual. I think most creatures are selectively asexual, but human women far more so (even antisexual). It's why it's so difficult to get certain animals in captivity to mate. Either through no interest at all, or some dead bedroom or borderline dead bedroom relationship where the woman does not even try to pretend she's fired up for a sex with that guy. But that does not mean she's not fired up fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:19 AM
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Love does not exist, your brain never experiences anything other than hormones as reactions to "good" and "bad" things, its conceptually just as complex as a chimp choosing between a lever that gives him a banana and a lever that electrocutes him. But as a narrative, do you think the notion of "love" serves as a meaningful heuristic?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:15 AM
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You know what? I understand what is happening now. You're a woman. So when you have an abundance of non-critical, always-say-yes, social validation from others (you're a spoiled brat, I can tell) you get to look in the mirror and think "I validated me!". You, like all women, take credit for what other people do for you. This explains it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:14 AM
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Wow. Your entire rebuttal is like watching someone argue that seatbelts are oppressive because real drivers just "believe in themselves" so... congrats on being the living embodiment of "weLL, aCtUaLLy" I guess? I honestly have no clue what this is referring to in my post... You really took "don’t hinge your self-worth on strangers’ opinions" and turned it into a TED Talk on why people should, in fact, hinge their self-worth on strangers’ opinions. Bravo. Gold medal in missing the fucking point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:10 AM
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You're just upset that I don't like you cause you ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:05 AM
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All i know is that i dont have to figure out what orientation to plug a usbc in cause its compatible either way. In all seriousness, I think 'compatibility' fits within 'attractive'. I think it's worthwhile to not get specific about that because individual preferences still matter even if there are general statistical trends. Maybe it's better to say that competition is most acute in the initial phase of dating (even if compatibility is still necessary), and compatibility is more deeply explored…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:03 AM
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It's more to provoke a reassessment of the narrative of blame than anything else. Terms like "patriarchy" and "matriarchy" I believe are ultimately useless because half our world is women and half our world is men and we all run the show collectively. Outside of provoking critical assessment, I do have related beliefs (or maybe suspicions is a better word) not grounded in any rigorous evidence (call it intuition). As such it's pointless to really get into it so I'll just say on an intuitive leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:55 PM
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men equate relationship = sex, women dont. This is not true it's just a blind spot for women. How often will women get denied sex relative men, especially in the context of a relationship in which intimacy is a given? This difference is why it's a blind spot for you. You have the privilege of not having to equate a relationship with sex because sex is essentially free for you. A man has the privilege of not having to equate a relationship with commitment because every woman in the west wants exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:19 PM
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You'll be a lot happier if you figure out how to validate yourself instead of looking to others to do it for you Validation is a social process (by definition). What you're talking about is something deeper and transcends validation which is along the lines of "acceptance". Acceptance is not necessary for validation (relationship with others). Your post implies that everyone who has gained validation necessarily has also gained acceptance first, through their own inner work. This is dishonest an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:13 PM
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I agree with you but I think it is "lookist" first and foremost (and I actually think women are far more in-group picky in this regard than men; the patriarchy is the matriarchy). Sexism is a subset of lookism. These kinds of standards can also be racist (workplaces having "issues" with certain hair types, 4a, 4c, etc.), which is another subset of lookism. It's all superficially driven and none of these standards, (grooming, makeup, dress code, hygiene/smell) demarcate in any necessary manner co…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:57 PM
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The simple all encompassing answer is to "be attractive" to those you wish to have a relationship with in such a way that renders you a better option than any other your suitor might have (again, this might not apply as heavily in non-monogamous cultures given that monogamy treats relationships as property in both directions). But maybe this is a blind spot with women given their privilege of, generally, having more suitors than men, culturally being the pursued rather than pursuer, having an ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:45 PM
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It's also just simply an arms race of attractiveness. At some point, beyond surgery to alter one's appearance, where else can you go but style (makeup, fragrance, fast fashion, etc). And I do believe the women who say they wear makeup "for themselves" but I just think their evaluation as to why they do it is unnecessarily truncated. In other words, they are answering "Why do you wear makeup?" but obfuscating the "Why do I desire to wear makeup". It's the difference between "It makes me feel conf…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:34 PM
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Dating isn’t about competition. It’s about compatibility. These aren't mutually exclusive conditions. Compete to be the most compatible with the suitor(s) you want the most and believe you have the best chance with. I think a cursory glance at dating norms, and really the entire premise behind monogamy, says that competition is absolutely an aspect of mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:28 PM
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It's so crazy to me. Most women I know who wear makeup do so because they enjoy the hobby and/or it's a creative outlet. Of course, some women wear makeup due to insecurities, too, but that is certainly not everyone. I have never felt like not wearing makeup has impacted my dating prospects at all. Would you agree, then, that makeup is not a standard of conventional attraction imposed on women by the patriarchy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 10:26 PM
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I've tried men, I'll be wary. Except your emotions don't match reality. You should be most fearful of the men that you are closest to and least fearful of men that are complete strangers. It should go like this in order of who you run away from to who you run towards: bear -> boyfriend/husband/father -> men who are acquaintances -> men who are strangers And even then this is only if we want to inflate your statistical likelihood of being harmed to match some kind of immediate actionable behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 10:25 PM
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Internalize misogyny. You like seeing other women suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:10 AM
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Second thing - it is not in men's control weather women want men or not. Women decide it. Nobody decides what they're attracted to, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:03 AM
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I agree with this and it came first in the destruction of the earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 12:03 AM
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your flair says all pills are dumb so i didnt take mine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:58 PM
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And sounds good, but if i'm alone in the middle of nowhere and a man approaches me, i'm scared, maybe scared is a strong word, i'm wary, and will try to avoid him. Have you tried therapy, though? Or do you leave the house with this degree of entitlement that everyone you encounter must necessarily be the kind of human you'd want to interact with and if they aren't then they are morally inferior?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:58 PM
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Nah, much better to just make excuses and pretend like every other guy does it. There you are pointing only at men again. I think you're projecting and doing it because you think it's a good mating strategy. In any case, at their default, where they don't exercise much self-awareness, women are actually the most exclusionary members of the species; they are the most racist, lookist, sexist, etc out there (the patriarchy IS the matriarchy, men have just been gaslit to take the blame like always).…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:51 PM
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Provide this data you are referring to. The data that conclusively states "the majority of women" are "rejecting the same 90% of men." I don't have it off-hand and I don't even know it deeply. Hence the qualifier "if" in the 2nd sentence. Irrelevant to my point, which is that the assumption that a man having more than one partner somehow = "sharing the same percent of men" is fundamentally inane It's not irrelevant if womens selection standards heavily skew to 10% of men. They can only be regard…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:32 PM
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it’s not about acting “above”, it’s about actually being able to talk to women AS people, AS friends, AS you would your family. Not just as a potential lay or not. That's about presentation and not necessarily indicative of conscious or unconscious biases. To imply otherwise is to give people the impression that the charismatic guy always has good intentions (you'd be a bad father and a bad brother). So in some sense it is ALL about "acting" above (emphasis acting). With undesirable traits, (awk…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:22 PM
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But aren't people taking the data from online dating apps (10% men garner the majority of female attention) and then using this app as one data point that helps confirm those findings? Maybe I'm misunderstanding...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:50 PM
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Let me try to explain. If every woman you look at, you immediately determine the level of if you want yo have sec with them and then how you treat them (or ignore them) is based on their fuckablity, then you are objectifying them. You don’t do this with your guy friends. You don’t do this with your family (hopefully!). So by applying this specific attitude to a specific group for the specific purpose of who you want to fuck can be around, you are automatically dehumanizing them to a certain leve…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:41 PM
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It becomes extremely difficult to “work on” when people aren’t even aware that it’s something they are doing. Which is kinda my point in my OP: Some dudes don’t even know that they are doing it. They are just looking at every woman and basing interactions (or ignoring) on the value of whether they are worth having sex with or not. And then wondering why women don’t want to be around someone like that. It's the other way around. The only one denying this is you by presenting yourself as above it …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:37 PM
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I think this is an important point. I'd also add on top of company transparency, that we still have to assume that the user base is legitimate. In other words, that there are not a statistically significant number of bot accounts (every 1 account ties to 1 real human) and that each account is utilized in a legitimate manner (all singular account activities are legitimate human interactions with the app interface and not tricks, scripts, bots, etc). Also, if you look at online dating and in parti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:16 PM
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Don't we still have to assume that the user base is legitimate? In other words, that there are not a statistically significant number of bot accounts (every 1 account ties to 1 real human) and that each account is utilized in a legitimate manner (all singular account activities are legitimate human interactions with the app interface and not tricks, scripts, bots, etc). I think this is particularly important in the online dating sphere...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:11 PM
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I think being able to create support systems for oneself is handling it pretty well. Women don’t report feeling as “isolated” as men nor do their feelings translate into destructive behaviors against others the way isolated men’s tend to. Women do not create. Even in gestation, all they do is sit and ask the man to give them ice cream. Biology and nature creates everything that a woman is. It just happens unless you are unfortunately unappealing physically. This is the entire concept of a rite o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:48 PM
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Women are ruthless in their attitudes/behaviors towards men when they are age 18 to 27 YO/no bastard kids. Exactly this. And they are similarly cruel and unrelenting to women they wish to ostracize from their social group as well, usually for reasons like "way less attractive than me" or "way more attractive than me". It usually all boils down to anxieties around sexual selection opportunities (women objectify others all the time), but women are really really really good at manipulating, lying, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:30 PM
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The difference is in honesty. Women treat people the same way they are just better at lying, manipulating, and hiding behind plausible deniability so it doesn't look like they are as crass or cruel. If you've ever been an ostracized woman then you'll have an understanding of what I'm talking about. I sincerely believe that on a biological and cultural level, women are not capable of a disposition that is compatible with a polity that has equality as one of its foundational values (not without me…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:27 PM
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I would say women are worse at handling feelings of loneliness, which is why their happiness level is on par or worse than men's DESPITE usually having a more robust social support network. Women NEED way more than men. The neediness is their weakness in this regard. If women were as lonely and acutely isolated as men are in the same numbers as men are they would arguably be way worse off. To put it bluntly, a woman could not handle a man's life. I think this is also why we see so few Female to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:18 PM
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Groups like AWDTSG, the Tea app, literally anything where women try to get information about a potential date is bizarrely used as conclusive evidence by the "logical, rational sex" that women are only interested in the same men The apps give us data on behaviors regarding sexual selection. If the majority of women on an app are rejecting 90% of the same men, and swiping "yes" to 10% of the same men, we can draw certain conclusions from that regarding sexual selection in modern women, of course …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:54 PM
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No, sexual intimacy isn’t traded at all in most relationships. It’s enjoyed together. The rules of monogamy are the norm in most modern cultures and the rules of monogamy make your statement nearly impossible. If someone believes they are entitled to your attention, body, sexuality, to such a degree that they get a say in how you engage in that manner (monogamy), it is a proprietary (ownership) based relationship. Market logic is predicated on ownership norms. It is fundamentally an exchange eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:42 PM
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Women's liberation is actually men's liberation. Equality means the costs should be split unless you make up for it elsewhere. It's just business.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:33 PM
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All of the popular talk about relationships and dating is, consciously or not, further popularizing what used to be seen as red pill content that only incels in the dark corners of the web spouted. And the thing with that content is that it is heavily focused on the female desire, because that's been the biggest unknown for men and women both (men truly are pretty simple). It is taking the adage 'Women are pragmatists masquerading as romantics and men are romantics masquerading as pragmatists' a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:33 AM
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Exactly this. Yet when they choose "a bad one" it's still not their fault in any way. They want to avoid accountability in every possible way. For every terrible man in a hetero-normative relationship there is at least 1 terrible woman holding his hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:06 AM
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i mean...don't kink shame me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 05:38 AM
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the likes of which we haven't seen since Roe vs Wade got overturned What do women love more than destroying the lives of their children? Destroying the lives of their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:04 PM
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Is it trans exclusionary then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 11:02 PM
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I don't believe in punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:57 PM
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I think this tracks. Boys are forced out of the community at puberty and must prove their way back in, or else build their own "and they will come". This was the rite of passage. Women are in the community by default and must be the target of female shame and ostracization to be removed. This is why for a woman it takes a great deal of character and courage to forge your own path, think your own thoughts, live your own life. It is far more distressing and potentially self-destroying. Most women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/25 10:43 PM
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and i would guess that women who date toxic men are likely seeking some type of external validation that these men provide for them That doesn't absolve them of accountability. People need to just be honest and admit that for every terrible man in a hetero-normative relationship there is at least 1 terrible woman holding his hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:24 PM
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Sorry I had a brain fart where I took you for an honest human. I get what is happening here. Women don't care about toxicity except where it hurts them or they'd have something to gain by calling it out. This is why telling women to choose better partners is so off putting to women because it is effectively removing this fulcrum point of control at their disposal and holding them accountable for their actions. In short, women simply do not want to admit that for every terrible man in a hetero-no…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:11 PM
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I'm confused. You made an assertion that doesn't contradict my statements but the tone of your post is so haughty that it makes me think you believe you proved me wrong somehow... It's pretty simple. For example, if your husband makes fun of kids with disabilities and you don't call that shit out and/or leave him, you're an asshole. The same logic applies to the toxicity issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:04 PM
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I think their argument is that sexual intimacy is still traded for in a market logic kind of context, which is still an affront to one's dignity. I'm not making that argument but I do believe that most of the love people talk about is an illusion for a situation that is, at its most fundamental level, a market exchange. So prostitution with extra steps. The only true love is a non-proprietary based relationship, where people don't have an entitlement of ownership over the other or their assets/n…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:56 PM
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If you hang out with people that are assholes and you don't call that shit out then you are also an asshole. Either call it out or stop hanging out with assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:49 PM
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No accountability...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:41 PM
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This is exactly it. There is no love in the marriage contract (or rather maybe love is built through need and reciprocity) and that "quiet part" is becoming loud as people need each other less and less and reciprocate less and less. It brings into sharper relief the question "Why would I do this? What do you bring?" for both sides of the equation. If men can't be a human without "giving the ick", and they are no longer needed to provide for, and women will talk about feelings all day long with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:56 PM
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IMO, women having sex with a guy before commitment is rarely ever a ploy to get him to be exclusive. Isn't this one of the big complaints women have? That men won't commit? At the very least they have expectations that haven't been communicated and because they sleep with them they then feel entitled to those expectations being fulfilled and when they are not then "men bad". In my experience women are children when it comes to communicating and are far far far worse at it than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:37 PM
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you sound like a bitter old hag. the chip on your shoulder that your first crush gave you or your daddy or whatever is not helping you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:48 PM
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I often notice that when I need to get by or when I’m walking on a sidewalk men will not shift their weight or move to the side or make space for me. Are you conventionally attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:13 PM
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You forgot to ask what he was wearing. You're a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:12 PM
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Id say its women being much more developed pro socially and adeptly leveraging that interpersonal knowledge (that EQ intel) to harmonize and behave in ways that further her own person agenda. Doesn't that assume that the current or predominant social environment is good and to be adjusted to it or to successfully climb that social ladder is indicative of positive emotional traits? In other words, in a cultural context where dishonesty allows one to "further her own personal agenda" best, this wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:28 PM
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I don't know why every woman has to catastrophize the character of someone they just simply aren't compatible with. You aren't compatible, no big deal, move the fuck on. I get having standards, but this kind of attitude is indicative of a serious level of entitlement. Despite what this sub claims, investing in a guy is stupid. People forget investments are risky. If you dont like the current state the guy currently is, its better to find someone with realized potential. “Invest in him” is the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:10 PM
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Until the point where often it comes at the cost of all your other worth and power. Actually, maybe if sexualizing men did also rob them of power it might solve everything, by finally making it fair. You wouldn't solve any problem with this. It would just shift the hierarchy, not end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:02 PM
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Anyone who thinks women don't already sexualize men and boys just can't have been around many women. It's the only reason I know I have a killer booty is because women make lewd comments about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:59 PM
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Much of what I hear feminists say is basically just reverse Andrew Tate. Exactly correct. The entire underlying value system of what it means to be a man, (i.e. your worth is in part contingent upon your ability to attract the romantic attention of women), is only affirmed by modern feminists, but it is affirmed in an exclusionary shame based manner. They all believe the same thing. It shows that to the extent "incelism" exists as an "ism", a collection of coherent or semi-coherent beliefs about…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 08:23 PM
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Feminism has effectively been co-opted by selfish people who want to manipulate patriarchal values to enrich themselves. This is why it is no longer class conscious and is totally identity based. Or rather, the fact that it is no longer class conscious leads to this vacuous analysis of the world. "Boss bitch" thinking can't possibly be radical or feminist in the truest sense because of the inclusion of "boss". But your average "feminist" today see's the female identity in the statement and cheer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/07/25 08:18 PM
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The problem is that there's FAR less risk for women to approach. This still wouldn't solve the problem as the male sex is inherently less valued in this world. So suddenly if the roles of the dating dynamic were fully reversed, women still wouldn't be approaching the men they view as undesirable, and those men are the same men they don't want to be approached by right now. No single individual is to blame, men aren't to blame, women aren't to blame. It's just the reality of the sex dynamic. But …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:28 AM
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Do you have any evidence that this is actually the case? Your own comment above where you casually equated "men" with "men who sexually harass". You're so steeped in your hate you don't even see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:25 AM
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You can't expect women to be subjected to unpleasant or offensive conversations and then get mad that they won't tolerate it. They're not practice dummies for you to train on. If this is how you see strangers that you interact with in public then the problem is likely coming from your side. You're likely giving off subtle behavioral signals that is making the interaction stilted and awkward. I'd recommend one of three options: 1) stay inside, 2) therapy 3) deal with it and move on with your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:23 AM
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It's women's responses to poor social skills that make it incredibly daunting to learn. Hence why OP is correct. Stop caring. If someone can't handle a public interaction, you don't necessarily need to feel guilt or shame. It is just as likely a them issue as it is a you issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:20 AM
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I think there is an accountability issue going on where an individuals feelings are being mistaken for an accurate representation of reality. If a man left their house with the entitlement that if someone he does not wish to interact with crosses his path, that person needs to atone for this affront and feel guilt and shame for simply existing, he would be socially shamed into a healthier outlook on the world. People that get offended because they have to interact in a public place with people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 12:17 AM
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