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Let's see these studies. You're not using my words, you're deliberately ignoring them and insisting on the opposite of what I've said
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:37 PM
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I can't debate in good faith with you if you continue to play stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:11 PM
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Rarely. If I catch someone's eye and they smile at me, I'll smile back but I generally avoid eye contact with men on the street because when I engage with a smile or greeting there's about a 40% chance he'll want to stop and talk. I'm not generally interested in conversations with random strangers. Exceptions made for old people, women, and kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:08 PM
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Is it a problem that not everyone I meet likes me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:20 PM
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sluts turn off doting husband material beta bux Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 06:13 PM
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Doesn't it make logical sense to you that a mostly female environment would have mostly female assholes and troublemakers, just as a mostly male environment would have mostly male assholes and troublemakers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:32 PM
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That's not to say that girls and women never bully each other, because they do. I'm sure there are women out there who've had different experiences than me and my friends, but this whole trope is greatly exaggerated by men. ok, so you're just stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:31 PM
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I would venture to guess that anyone who has a difficult time maintaining friendships with one gender probably has some other issues that could cause them to feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:29 PM
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well then I suggest you work on your reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:24 AM
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read my comments
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:46 AM
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I'm sure. I have something they want that they know they're not going to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 07:45 AM
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I have about an equal mix of male and female friends, always have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:29 AM
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lol ok dude. You're a real expert.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 05:25 AM
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I've actually heard this from women. They call other women bitches and they still talk and hang out with them. They've also directly said this to me. It also makes sense when you think of how women act in society as a whole vs how men act. And yet a vast majority of the women here agree with me. Sorry, but your perceptions on what you imagine being a woman is like don't hold water. I wouldn't tell you what life is like for a teenage boy, because I don't know. Maybe listen to the women on this on…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:50 AM
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again, I'm going to point out that this claim is most often made by men. In my own experience along with almost every woman I know, bullying from boys and men is consistently more severe and more frequent. That's not to say that girls and women never bully each other, because they do. Just not on the same level. Jenny Martin decided it was her mission to make me miserable for the entirety of middle school, but there were far more boys doing much worse things. I'm sure there are women out there w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:34 AM
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Far less frequently than boys, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 11:42 PM
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but mean women tend to bully other women. I'm a woman, and I find it interesting that so many men believe this. It has never been even close to being true at any stage in my life. From Sunday school to the adult workplace, the vast majority of bullying and rude behavior I've experienced has been by boys and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 10:29 PM
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Rings true in my experience, for whatever that's worth. A vast majority of people I encounter are pleasant or neutral. When I encounter someone unpleasant or rude, there's about an 85% chance it's a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 10:13 PM
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It's not about hot sex, it's an obsessive comparison to the type of sex she had with other men before you. You guys might have a good or even great sex life, but if she did anal with her college boyfriend and won't do anal with you it's because she doesn't love you or is not attracted to you, etc. Compare and dispair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 05:51 PM
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My parents have the strongest marriage I know of. Still very in love after 40 years and 5 kids. I've never seen them fight in my entire life. Socially, my mom steam rolls my dad. She was (and still is to some degree) a super gorgeous social butterfly. She will chat with and get along with anyone. She loves to throw parties and to entertain. She's very well liked and has many friends. My dad is very reserved and quiet, with only two close friends that I know of. He highly values quiet time and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 07:26 AM
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99.7% of humans have sex. A vast majority do so without being accused of assault. there is no crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:33 PM
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get over your victim complex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 04:07 PM
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not currently hiring, but always firing! submit your application
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:57 AM
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your feelings don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:57 AM
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I can imagine it would be frustrating, given your apparent inability to debate in a coherent manner. good luck with your imaginary "crisis"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:03 AM
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you didn't answer it at all. you dodged it completely. You obviously aren't here to debate in good faith, so unless you can stay on topic I invite you to keep your unhinged ramblings to yourself. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 05:59 AM
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You're my favorite one here. Triggered by reality. It doesn't get much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 05:57 AM
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I asked you a simple question, what do you mean that these guys "aren't making it"? You refuse to answer
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 05:57 AM
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the more you obsess about that guy, the more embellishments you add. now he has aspergers. I'm really looking forward to see what your next delusion is. Maybe a speech impediment or a tail??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 04:38 AM
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so sorry to hear about your husband. I can't imagine. in the past, I've sought out fuck buddies. Some of whom I carried on relationships with for years and years. But if you just want to sleep around and not attach feelings to it, I don't see why you shouldn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 04:36 AM
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thanks for the tangent, but I asked you a question and you're avoiding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 04:34 AM
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Hey. Thousands of hard working men rely on this factory
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 04:32 AM
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What do you mean by "don't make it"? By not having prefect relationships with their ideal women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:24 AM
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I'm missing the part where anyone claimed dating is always easy, fair, painless, and perfect. Can you show me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:19 AM
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any evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:09 AM
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why the fuck would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:28 AM
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So women should compromise their own goals to please men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:26 AM
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ppd is entertaining because it's so far fetched and divorced from reality. I enjoy the posts here but wouldn't consider them relevant to anything
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:20 AM
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no, but you're characterizing it as a problem without explaining why
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:18 AM
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I'm asking why you think dating and sex should always be easy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 12:09 AM
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You're saying that dating and sex aren't as easy as some men would like. I don't see why that's a problem. It would be cool if I could get paid more to do less work, too. Boo hoo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 11:52 PM
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So?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 11:48 PM
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But they are dating and having sex with these women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 11:39 PM
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A problem for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 11:30 PM
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But women also need to stand up for themselves and exercise some personal responsibility in the workplace. oh my god the irony. you can't make this stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:34 PM
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your feelings don't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:30 PM
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It isn't about convincing yourself. It's about other people being able to make sure that you're not feeding them a line of BS before they take action. In real life, other people aren't your parents and believe everything you say just because you said it. Grow up. And they did that. Everyone analyzed the situation and made their own decision on how to react. Most people chose to avoid the business and believe me. I can't force anyone to do that. In the face of that kind of overwhelming self-right…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:16 PM
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I think a person is entitled to some presumption of innocence, especially in the absence of damning evidence. If there were multiple witnesses and/or camera footage, then that would satisfy my clearly outlandish concept of due process. I don't need to convince myself of something that happened to me. I know what happened and so does he. I don't need to have a video to tell the truth. That one person's word is hardly the last word on a person's character. You might believe your testimony is unimp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 10:03 PM
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You're still not giving us enough context to decide whether the boss's actions were appropriate or not. Would you like losing your job on the basis of one guy's story? So far all you've told us is one grope and "harassment". Sounds honestly like the guy was just a creep who crossed the line one day one time. Not defending him, just saying you haven't given us enough detail to say that a closed-doors chewing out for him and an apology to you wasn't enough. How many times should someone be allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 09:49 PM
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no it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 07:57 PM
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Most definitions of sexual harassment require the harassment to ongoing. If it was just a one-time thing, that actually seems like an appropriate response (assuming it didn't happen again). For all you know the guy got chewed out behind closed doors. The harassment was ongoing, the groping was an isolated incident What you did afterwards sounds exactly like passive-aggressive retaliation. You didn't get your pound of flesh, so fuck him and his boss right? How would you feel if he felt aggrieved …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 07:56 PM
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That's only true if you decide that the accusations against hot guys "don't count ", which only you have the cognitive dissonance to reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 07:39 PM
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I can only speak from my personal experience and the actions I chose to take. I experienced sexual harassment and groping in the workplace by my superior when I was in my early twenties. I ran away as soon as I could, left work, and called his boss for a meeting the following day. I told him what happened and told him I wouldn't be returning to work. His response was basically "Oh ya Mark can be a real weirdo. Sorry about that". I wasn't expecting him to face consequences, and he didn't. This wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 07:35 PM
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No, it's not common sense. In fact it's entirely counterproductive. I don't know what it's like where you live but everywhere I've been women don't accept dates from men they've not established rapport with, unless the man is ridiculously more attractive than she is or she's a desperate single broke single mom or something like that. Delusion. Not only are most men capable of building rapport without groping, but most men are in relationships and got there without a whisper of being accused of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:37 PM
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Ed Westwick, Ben Affleck, Casey Affleck, Jeremy Piven.... Should I go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:17 PM
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which suggested you should do nothing AT the workplace, except asking out Right, which is basic common sense and not something most men need explained to them. People are trying to make this complicated. It isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:12 PM
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It's normal to flirt a little before asking someone out though... Can you show an example of one of these cases where the guy was simply flirting? Most men figure out how to flirt without grabbing women just fine. It's actually really easy to do. it's not a crime for unattractive men to want to date. You're out of this excuse. The last two months prove that it doesn't matter what the guy looks like or how much money he has. You are accountable for your own behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:24 PM
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However, my question is how to get everyone to be on the same page with that solution. Women should not report that behavior to HR; nor should women expect a man to pursue her more than that; nor should men be surprised by a sexual harassment complaint if they go beyond that; nor should men be afraid to ask a coworker to hang out. can you find an example of one of these cases where a guy gets reported for harassment for politely asking for a date and accepting her answer? You're getting into par…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 04:19 PM
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Good to hear, you've always been one of my favorites.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:37 AM
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lol don't flatter yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 01:20 AM
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There sure are a lot of women pretending to be lovesick men online then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 12:51 AM
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yes I know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 12:50 AM
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Mend avoid making moves on women for fear of being labeled a "creep" all the time. They really don't
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 12:13 AM
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I'm sorry that my very existence triggers you. You must be upset all the time, sounds tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 11:34 PM
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Why would I do that? Triggering incels is so entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 11:23 PM
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interesting, this has been my opposite experience. I've noticed that a lot of men think of love as simply a feeling, rather than a continuous series of choices and actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:35 PM
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An important thing to note with these high profile cases is that none of them happened on dates. A vast majority happened at work or in professional settings. Don't treat coworkers as dates. In fact, don't treat anyone other than your date as a date. If you're interested in dating your coworker, ask them to hang out on a date. You are not on a date while you are at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 10:32 PM
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I generally agree, but I had a great deal of affection for my long-term fuck buddy. Just a different kind of affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 05:33 PM
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I would assume for the same reasons I'm here as an attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 05:30 PM
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eh, I don't know. I'm here a lot and I have a successful career, I volunteer, I make art, play with my dog, read books, and I have a happy relationship. It only takes a minute or two to read and respond to posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:16 AM
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But the "public outcry" gained hardly any wide spread media exposure. Even on google trends its insignificant to regular terms lol what? have you been on vacation on the moon these past two months?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 01:40 AM
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Similar for me on the other side. I'm more attractive and wealthier than my partner. What he's got going for him is simply that other men aren't him. Good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:55 PM
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I don't rely on religion for self-growth. Only facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 03:31 PM
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I can't prove a negative, genius
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 12:04 AM
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There is no evidence that anyone is getting paid for accusing celebrities of sexual misconduct, you just feel like they probably will eventually
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:59 PM
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You are the one making totally unsubstantiated claims. I'm simply asking for evidence that doesn't involve your emotions .
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:44 PM
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So, no evidence. Just your feelings. How unsurprising
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:36 PM
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Why are all these claims coming out of the woodwork now, 5, 10, 20, 30 years after the fact? What is the motivation for this? comment: all these women are lying opportunistic whores very next comment: why don't women come forward? Revenge. Payouts (so they can write tell-alls and sell the movie rights for some $$$). These no-name people want fame, notoriety, and money. It is always about money. can you show us an example of these women coming forward receiving payment for accusations?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:27 PM
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Any evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:24 PM
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Moving goalposts is a great way to avoid admitting you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:21 PM
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Kevin Spacey. Ben Affleck. Casey Affleck. Jeremy Pive. Nick Carter. Russel Simmonds. Ed Westwick. Should I go on?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:19 PM
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that's obviously not for me to say as it depends on the person applying the advice
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 05:34 PM
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I think it's good advice for anyone, gay straight man or woman. I also think it's silly to call this "RP advice". This is cliche common sense strategy that is as old as dating itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:55 PM
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Because no one wants someone that no one else wants. Any man or woman with value and options will have at least a slight air of "not giving a fuck". I agree that balance is key. I'm not going to waste my time with a guy who's showing me no interest at all. If you wait a week to text me back, I've already deleted your number. Similarly, I'm going to be spooked off by a guy who comes across desperate and needy. I have other priorities in my life and I expect the same from my partner. Being the pri…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:47 PM
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A gun to my head
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:41 PM
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because desperation is repulsive also, going after toxic and/or unavailable people is common among any gender or orientation. This is often a fear or avoidance based behavior. A stable, happy, long-term relationship can seem a whole lot scarier than a brief trash fire
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 04:40 PM
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It's obvious to everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:34 AM
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it certainly helped me. It's hard to build self esteem when you don't have a chance to fail fail fail succeed. Learning to play a sport is a guaranteed experience in failure and growth. Winning my first state trophy in gymnastics after failing to even qualify for years was probably the best experience of my childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:14 AM
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conveniently leaving out the most important part of the sentence ("unporoked") isn't debating in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 03:03 AM
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Kindly point to anywhere I've said that sexual advances don't involve touching people? The question is whether or not any sexual advance at all is appropriate in certain settings. If you're interested in a woman you don't know, you don't start things off by touching her. You start by talking to her. That's the point. And like I've said, every man I've ever dated had successfully gotten me to agree to a date without groping me. The groping comes later with implied or explicit consent. This should…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 11:47 PM
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Oh yes. "There's zero evidence to back up my claim so I'll just make assumptions" Can you show me evidence that women are always in happy relationships? Why do you consider anything less than perfection oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 07:44 PM
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Well then this is a silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 06:03 PM
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Anyone who wants to return to the 1950s has a very naive and romanticized view of the realities of the era.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:20 PM
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What epidemic? Most people end up partnered and almost everyone has sex. The teeny tiny fraction of people who are truly forever alone are about equal men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:07 PM
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I think it just comes down to a reactionary response to all the news lately, and people taking things personally that aren't at all personal. A small amount of men seem to think that acknowledging sexual harassment as a very real and very common problem is somehow betraying their gender or taking blame. No one's claiming that most men are predators, just enough of them to warrant a discussion and some real action.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:03 PM
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I understand that there are people who genuinely have a hard time determining what is and is not appropriate behavior, I just take issue with the claim that the rules are difficult for most men to understand and follow. Indeed, most men have no problem doing so. If a guy is behaving in a way that makes a woman feel harassed or uncomfortable, he's probably doing it on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:45 PM
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Explicitly or implicitly, yes. Do you really think men don't understand that you don't treat coworkers and strangers like dates? Be realistic. The men violating these social boundaries aren't helpless, confused, well meaning dummies. They know exactly what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 03:23 PM
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Every man who's successfully asked me for a date did so without gabbing or groping me. Not difficult to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:51 AM
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Who said anything about not talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:34 AM
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Or.... "beta" and "alpha" are totally made up concepts that describe a large spectrum of impermanent behavior and are subject to interpretation and change moment to moment and are therefore pretty useless to describe living people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:30 AM
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I'm not sure where you got that information, but the accusations against Thomas were much more complex and far reaching than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 12:41 AM
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So are 80% of men in their twenties not getting laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:42 PM
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I thought that was because of attraction, now it's about age and maturity?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:40 PM
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I started dating men in their thirties in my very early twenties. I made this decision because the older women in my life advised me to. Throughout my twenties, I only dated older men and never had any negative comments due to the age difference from anyone ever. I now advise young women in my life the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:26 PM
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I don't tolerate idiots well. then you ain't stoic, genius
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:16 PM
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Still not answering I see
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:15 PM
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You're proving my point for me. I don't care about your personal level of emotional maturity, just that I prefer someone more in touch and with a better understanding of nuance. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:14 PM
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Dude, the guy straight up believes conspiracies and other crazy shit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:03 PM
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That's the exact kind of emotional immaturity I'm referring to, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 10:03 PM
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There is a balance between being overly emotional and unemotional. That's what's attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:32 PM
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It's a sign of emotional immaturity. I have no interest in playing guessing games with grown men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:22 PM
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Personally, I see stoicism as a huge red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:19 PM
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ITT men avoiding the question as asked
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:05 PM
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and delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:59 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:58 PM
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What makes you different than him?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:56 PM
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But what about "themselves" are you looking for? Just anything from anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:55 PM
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His entire posting history and interactions I've had with him personally
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:54 PM
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So what do you expect your partner to bring to the table?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:52 PM
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He's severely mentally ill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:51 PM
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Oh. I must be thinking of someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:49 PM
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stoic interesting answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:48 PM
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Aren't you also a musician?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:48 PM
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What about generally?.What do you offer a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:45 PM
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A good wife for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:17 PM
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whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 08:04 PM
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Lol. Chris Cornell: Physically gorgeous, talented, lauded as a genius with millions of fans across two generations. Fabulously wealthy. Happily married with 3 children. ya, what a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:53 PM
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Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington, Robin Williams, Kurt Cobain
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:36 PM
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Because showing men caring attention is almost always misinterpreted as sexual interest
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:14 PM
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I mean, sexual harassment is a vey sterile and prudent way to describe what Weinstein is accused of
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 07:13 PM
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They use that terminology because it's prudent to do so. The reporters aren't the ones to determine if the action was assault or harassment, and don't know every detail. They simply report what the victim says, that Spacey made unwanted advances. Whether or not those advances were criminal is yet to be determined
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 06:09 PM
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My problem is that those serious accusations are often being described as "unwanted sexual advances", but being unwanted isn't what was wrong with them. What's wrong with them is that they were done to an underage boy (for Kevin Spacey), done despite a "no", etc. But that's the accurate description. Whether or not I steal a quarter or 500 dollars from you, it's still "theft"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 06:00 PM
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I've yet to see any of these high profile cases being as minor as asking for a date, have you? If your "sexual advances" involve touching people or showing them your junk unprovoked, now is the perfect time to rethink your strategy. This has been made by some to seem as though the waters are all muddied and nothing is acceptable anymore. It's actually quite simple. Don't touch people who aren't your partner in a sexual way without permission, take no for am answer, and maybe don't whip your geni…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 05:30 PM
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I'm definitely 3 and have had the best success with other 3s I wouldn't say I have difficulty "opening up", though. I'm just slow to do so and cautious about who I open up to. I try to maintain open honesty and expect the same from my partners Independence and space are mandatory
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 04:04 PM
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What do you think people mean by "rape culture"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 04:03 PM
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You're delusional if you think you're special and not vulnerable to crime
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 05:00 AM
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That's exactly my point, genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 03:51 AM
1

That's delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 03:18 AM
1

Cities
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 02:23 AM
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It's the safest city in the Untied States
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 02:22 AM
1

because you're lying
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 01:18 AM
1

lol. where do you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 01:09 AM
1

Do you understand that all the data available proves that you're statistically more likely to be a victim of a crime in San Diego vs New York?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 01:02 AM
27

Do you understand the concept behind a "genre"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 01:01 AM
2

keep looking for your little safety bubble where no one will ever harm you. you'll be looking for a long long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:59 AM
2

"More traditional approach" as in "only kissing and hand-holding before marriage"? More like enforcing traditional gender roles. Expecting men to pay for dates, impress their fathers, and wait for sex. Well, at least, according to you, "marginally Muslims" exist. Of course they do
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:55 AM
2

TIL Manhattan and Northeast Portland are ghettos you must not get out much
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:47 AM
1

Christians aren't supposed to fuck before marriage, and yet here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:45 AM
1

The only Muslim women I know personally are marginally Muslim, much like how a lot of people are marginally Christian. Most of them drink occasionally and rarely go to mosques. They have all dated non Muslim guys, but take a generally more traditional approach to dating than most of my other friends. All three of my Muslim women friends are now married, only one to a Muslim man. Purely anecdotal but that's what I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:43 AM
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The word cunt has a lot more history and implications behind it than most other swear words. It's actually pretty interesting to read about if you're ever curious. If I had to take a guess on why it's worse, that would be it. But really, there's probably no reason at all. Curse words are weird that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 12:19 AM
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I meant more equivalent in crudeness. There's no logic behind why some words are considered more crude than others, they just are. Cock and Johnson are both slang for penis, but one is rude and the other isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 11:21 PM
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they're not equivalent in common usage and intended meaning. The equivalent of "dick" would be "pussy"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 11:04 PM
3

I don't mind the word "cunt", not one bit. I like that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 11:00 PM
2

I've never seen a makeup ad targeted at men. Could you just answer the question, please?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:22 PM
2

Do you consider makeup and weight loss product ads aimed at women "shaming"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 10:09 PM
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And every other commercial ever. Don't be a loser and buy this product! If that's shaming, then every demographic is shamed constantly everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:59 PM
1

I'm looking for specific examples on ppd
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:56 PM
2

Can someone with experience in teaching high school level statistics please jump in here? I don't know how to teach an adult to interpret stats correctly. I'll give it a try let's say there's an area with 100 people and 6 of them are victims of crime. There's a neighboring area with 10,000 people and 60 of them are victims of crime. Who has the higher crime rate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:55 PM
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People lie in all kinds of scenarios about all kinds of things for the exact same reason: it benefits them in the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:49 PM
1

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:46 PM
3

Still higher than New York city. San Diego is the fourth safest city in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:36 PM
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TIL direct advertising is shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:26 PM
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you know, you could just Google it. https://www.safewise.com/blog/safest-metro-cities/ Crime rates are measured by crimes per capita, not total number (fucking obviously). New York city thusly has the lowest crime rate of any major city in the United States
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:23 PM
1

Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 09:18 PM
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You do realize that most rapists get away with it, right? You know thday there are tens of thousands of untested rape kits that cops haven't even bothered to investigate?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:20 PM
1

You aren't mocking toxic women, you're crying about being criticized
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:14 PM
7

You have no working concept of Kafka if you think my experience was Kafkaesque.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:13 PM
1

It happens, just much more infrequently
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:12 PM
5

with that logic, shouldn't police asked victims of robbery what they were wearing? Maybe they had a Rolex on or some flashy clothes signaling wealth. But we all know that doesn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:10 PM
7

ok, so your reply had nothing to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:04 PM
1

And there are a fuckton of whiners on trp
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:04 PM
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Yes, my experience doesn't fit your personal political agenda and worldview, so I must be lying. I don't give one flying fuck if you believe me or not. It happened to me, and it happens to others every single day. No one cares how you feel about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:03 PM
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oh, so it's someone else's fault that you're whining?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 07:01 PM
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I have no issue with TRP. I just hate whiners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:55 PM
1

he called criticism of individual men's behavior " an attack on men ". Call it what you want, but that's simple terper snowflake shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:49 PM
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Can you show me where I've defended any whiners on either side?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:48 PM
1

Who's complaining here other than terpers? Why do you think men shouldn't be criticized?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:46 PM
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You said, based on my story, that carelessness should be criticized. I'm asking you to clarify what you think is careless. Unless you were simply meaning to derail?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:45 PM
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Where do you see that? BP is mostly mocking terpers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:43 PM
1

Who's talking about Rape? This guy thinks criticism is abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:42 PM
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There's a huge difference between a victim and a person with a victim complex my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:20 PM
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I had a knife and pepper spray on me when I was assaulted, but he came at me so fast out of nowhere that it was useless to me. A gun would not have been helpful unless I was wielding it freely at the time. I have considered taking some gun courses, but honestly I don't really see the point. and thank you, I'm fine :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:19 PM
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If you take all criticism against men's behavior as an attack, I imagine you would see it everywhere. Being a victim is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:16 PM
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It was an attack on certain men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:08 PM
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so you consider any and all criticism of individual men and their behavior as "attacking men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:01 PM
2

Where so you see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:57 PM
2

who is?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:52 PM
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Rape is also potentially lethal. You're just wrong here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:51 PM
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No it's not. What are you talking about? Kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, treason, torture...... Would you like a list of the countless non lethal crimes you could commit that result in life sentences?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:25 PM
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That's the point. Even low crime areas have a fuckton of crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:09 PM
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right, which is why it's naive to assume that the area I was in was a shitty area. I was in the safest city in the untied states
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:08 PM
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Two different cities
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 05:07 PM
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Guaranteed it's going to happen to someone, foolish to assume that it definitely won't be you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:38 PM
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Careless acts get criticised. That's not sexism, that's society trying to correct the failures of the careless person's parents. can you explain what's careless about taking a bus at 7:30 pm?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:37 PM
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I was robbed in the safest city in the US, where 15,000 people are robbed each year. If you think you're totally safe, you're simply naive
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:36 PM
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Surely some ways are better than others not really. if you're twenty years into a happy marriage, does it matter if you met in a dark bar or at bible study? If you slept together on the second date or years after meeting ? The best relationships have a foundation of friendship, that's true. That doesn't mean that you need to be friends for X amount of time before becoming romantic. It's a dynamic. My partner and I were never friends first, but we are now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:36 PM
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I'd be very interested to know the areas in which no one is ever robbed or assaulted. Can you share?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:28 PM
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you might be interested to know that crimes occur everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:25 PM
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The fact that we treat rape and sexual assault so differently than other crimes shows our collective attitude about it. When I was mugged at gun point years ago, no one asked me why I was getting gas at 9pm or what I was wearing or what I said/ did to encourage the perp to do what he did. The blame stayed exactly where it belonged. When I was sexually assaulted walking home from a bus stop at 7:30 pm, my treatment by the police and the reaction of my associates was very different. What was I wea…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 04:15 PM
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Women being this desperate for casual sex are rare. Unless she's a troll, she could have asked almost any single 20 year old for causal sex and he would probably be speeding over to her house in 60 seconds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 03:33 PM
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The only thing more pathetic than this story is the fact that some people believe it's real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 03:31 PM
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There is no ideal way to meet a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 03:29 PM
2

BPers fundamentally believe douchebags don't get laid and RP tactics don't work, or only work on mentally vulnerable women. I never see that claimed here. The arguments I see are that you don't have to be a douche to get laid, which a lot of terpers believe. When confronted with RP tactics working, they chalk it up to the seducer being a predator that should be stopped na, we're mostly just laughing at you guys. no one's afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 03:20 PM
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I've never used this tactic. If I'm not getting what I want, I say so and/or leave. I think a lot of men might be looking for intention when it isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/17 06:57 AM
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What? No one's trying to convince followers to do or believe anything. We are simply judging the group by common behaviors the same way all groups are judged. I'm not going to attack the new testament when I'm criticising the Westboro Baptists. That would be fucking stupid, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:45 PM
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Who's trying to change the minds of the followers? it's the followers trying to convince everyone that they should respect their practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:32 PM
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Those are two very different statements
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:26 PM
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The followers are the results of the theory and practice. If people are repulsed by the results, why would they respect the theory and practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:25 PM
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Have you any idea how much simpler life was in the 40s? No internet, no cable, no air conditioning for the 99%. Cars were so simple an owner could maintain it adequately himself and even improve it. lol what??? sweet Jesus I cannot begin to educate you on how wrong you are. Industry in the forties was MUCH more complex and labor intensive than now. Many many times more. Holy shit what a failure our education system is. Amazing. So depressing. 40 year old railway engineers were usually not drafte…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:22 PM
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Where do you see anyone on the blue side upset that douchebags get laid? I've only ever heard that from the incel crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:19 PM
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Ignore them or leave
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:16 PM
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So people shouldn't judge RP based on common behaviors of its followers? Mostly I just enjoy the consistent claim that TRP should be exempt from criticism all together.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:15 PM
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No one cares about judging others that's literally the question asked So you accept that the way BP defines capitalist is way to broad and leads to strawman fallacies? the fact that you think this discussion has anything to do with capitalism makes me weep for your reading comprehension
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:05 PM
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If you lose 60% of your maintenance personnel, things will stop very soon. You'll be able to triage certain vital locations. Some huge cities may be able to keep streetlights on. This is exactly what happened in WWII. Are you American?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:57 PM
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of the young, fit men? Fuck yes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:48 PM
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It would take a lot less than 30% of the population disappearing for the average woman to consider a lesbian relationship. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:47 PM
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you can't compare the behavior of people within a mandatory economic system with an optional body of thought. It's a ridiculous comparison. You can't really judge capitalism based on those participating, because they don't really have a choice. You can judge TRP based on those participating because they are doing so of their own free will
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:30 PM
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Does being a victim of a crime make that person inferior to their attacker? If some guy steals your wallet, does that mean you are fundamentally unequal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:10 PM
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I'm not claiming it's good or bad, just that it's ridiculous to compare it to trp
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 10:08 PM
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My father was pretty laid back when to came to dating and men, only very occasionally giving me advice or warnings. My older brothers, on the other hand, were something to be feared by every boy who ever liked me. I was never taught about "rape culture". I simply learned through my own experiences and those of girls and women I knew that unknown men are to be treated with extreme caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:21 PM
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It's impossible to effectively debate your point considering how non sequitur it is, but I'll try to clarify. Considering the atrocities capitalism is responsible for, do you think people would opt out if they reasonably could ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:17 PM
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Terrible example. Capitalism is not a belief system one can simply opt in or out of.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 07:48 PM
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So are you saying that BP agrees with those three books, and the arguments are largely a case of differing application. Like the Sunni vs Shia thing? Not necessarily. I'm saying that it doesn't really matter what's in those books. What matters is the behavior and representation of people within the group. A group can have a bible preaching nothing but bubblegum and blowjobs, but if they're using that writing to justify something like discrimination or violence, people will want nothing to do wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:51 PM
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Right, which is why it requires social awareness. I say things to my co-workers at the bar that I would never say to people in my professional office setting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:30 PM
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Sexual talk and jokes in the workplace are normal. The issue is people who cross a line or don't understand when it is and is not appropriate to engage in this behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:26 PM
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Compare it to a religion. There's a lot of really good stuff in the Christian scripture that pretty much everyone would agree is beneficial and right. What turns many people off to aligning with or joining the religion often isn't the core teachings, but the behavior and application of the people involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:22 PM
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Then you're not a good match and you should break up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:15 PM
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lol if you think 60% of men are that useful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:12 PM
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Even walking outside would be easier. As would 90% of social settings. But as many here have pointed out, this is a stupid question with zero real world application
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:05 PM
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A lot of women use their phones as barriers hoping that it will make them look busy so men don't try to talk to them. I've done this many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:02 PM
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Solid backup plan
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 06:00 PM
5

I would imagine that these men would have a hard time maintaining employment or functioning in the world. If my partner left me for any reason, I would be sad. It wouldn't be the end of the world, though. I have plenty of things in my life that bring me happiness and satisfaction that are totally independent of a romantic partnership. There would also be noticeable improvements in my life if less men interacted with me. I imaging commuting on the train would be a lot more pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:57 PM
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Flaws, weaknesses, and character defects have a way of making themselves known during the course of a relationship. The best way to ensure maximum damage is to try and cover them up or pretend they don't exist. It's best to be honest about your weak spots and to to accept and be tolerant of your partner's weaknesses (within reason). one should never assume their happy relationship is permanent. People change, circumstances change. Try to focus on the now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:55 PM
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that's kinda my point, this is kid stuff. Why are grown men so worried about winning everyone's approval?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:13 PM
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i judge people who complain instead of doing something about it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 04:11 PM
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you learn things about a person ater being together for 7 years
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 05:40 AM
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no problem
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:39 AM
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Do they? I haven't wasted my time with men under 30 since I was 22. I made that choice based on advice from older women, and I now advise younger women in my life to do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:26 AM
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Do you select your partners based on the opinions of strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:24 AM
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Basically, yes. Average looking guy who was pretty quiet. Didn't make much of an impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:18 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:02 AM
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We were neighbors. I saw him every morning at the coffee shop and would run into him around the neighbourhood (grocery store, local venue, etc). I saw him everyday for over a year before we had an actual conversation, but we were on a first name basis for months and months before that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 01:59 AM
1

Really? I never had an issue living in Brunswick
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 01:57 AM
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Success isn't automatic. He experienced plenty of rejection before we met
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 12:43 AM
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Sure. We'd both probably have met other people, but we probably wouldn't be as happy as we are now. This is the best relationship either of us has ever had. Good thing he didn't let a fear of rejection stop him from approaching me. I'm very confident, and I've approached men for dates before. I wouldn't have approached my partner because I barely noticed him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 11:38 PM
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cheating in general just really chaps my ass. Sociopathic and pointless thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 11:31 PM
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Let me clarify a little: Are you a smoking hot walking definition of an Alpha? - Probably not; most men aren't. Are you the living pillar of self-confidence? - Probably not; most men aren't. Are you completely immune to the pain of being rejected? - Probably not. Are you a hopeless sex addict who literally cannot maintain a normal lifestyle without some intimacy? - Probably not. Do you possess a superpower that allows you to spot female narcissistic abusers from two miles away? - No. Do you poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 11:25 PM
2

Stop looking for a manual for exactly what to say/ do, and when and how to say/do it. This is not black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:55 PM
1

It depends on the situation, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:50 PM
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A woman who sacrifices her own goals or satisfaction for her man is a good partner. A man who does this is whipped. In reality, both parties need to do this some to create a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:34 PM
1

At the appropriate time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 10:30 PM
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but maybe someone can tell me where all these post-wall, desperate-for-marriage women are? NYC or something ala sex and the city? I met more older unmarried women living in NY and LA than any other place, but they were all single by choice and had active dating lives. Mostly middle class and upper middle class educated women. The wall is a revenge fantasy that doesn't accurately reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 07:37 PM
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Be upfront and respect her decision whether you like it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 07:34 PM
2

A lot of men, yes. Luckily I don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:46 PM
1

Tinder "shows the truth" on nothing. Only a tiny fraction of single people use it, and most users never go on dates as a result of it. It's simple entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:32 PM
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When it comes to being childfree, most people honestly don't give a shit. It triggers some dudes who have certain expectations for women and some women will be condescending about it, but generally no one cares. Also, one shouldn't make such an important decision based on the opinions of others anyway. I don't need to be validated in that regard
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:14 PM
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Everyone feels like that sometimes, it's how people react to those feelings that makes a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:12 PM
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As a woman in my thirties who's chosen to not have children, the only judgmental comments I've gotten are from one elderly conservative aunt and a few dozen men. Women, especially mothers, tend to be a lot more supportive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 05:08 PM
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I think it's interesting that you assume these people are rare. They're not. Plenty of people approach the problems in their life from the mindset of what they can do about it, rather than just whine and feel like a victim about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:59 PM
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There are countless reasons someone might reject you for a date that have nothing to do with you at all. I'd say 50% of the times I've turned a guy down, it's been totally non personal. I know it always feels personal, but it often isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:54 PM
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you don't think people can be solution focused rather than problem focused? It's actually pretty easy to do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:49 PM
5

That guy sounds like my brother. He has absolutely no shame and has an incredible talent for making any situation fun. He's short and fat and was notorious for relentlessly going after the hottest women he could find. He was rejected over and over, but sometimes they said yes just because he was so charming and hilarious. He seemed to always have a beautiful girlfriend when I was a kid. He married a smoking hot lady way out of his league 17 years ago, and they're very happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:37 PM
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yes I'm sure they had their reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 04:17 PM
4

k
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:57 PM
5

A smart cunt who knows what's good for her, apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:49 PM
5

Clever girl
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:46 PM
4

years ago I confessed romantic feelings to a friend. He shot me down (but was very sweet about it). I was a bit surprised considering how much he flirted with me, but I got over it quickly and we remain friends a decade or so later. I got dumped by a guy I really liked when I was 22. He never gave me a reason. I took that one pretty hard at first, but got over it. The other time I got dumped didn't really feel like a "rejection". It was just the inevitable end of an obviously failing relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:43 PM
1

Some that stick out to me are poor physical fitness, untreated substance abuse issues/ mental illness, whining I judge people on countless things, we all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:36 PM
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A lot of guys who think they're "dark triad" are just hateful pricks with a victim complex and want to seem badass
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 03:02 AM
1

I'm merely a good observer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 07:07 PM
1

Generally, the less contact and experience they have with women, the more they think they know. Compare incels or mgtows to a redpiller who's actually dated
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:35 PM
3

some tall men are attractive, some short men are attractive, some white guys are attractive, some brown/ black/ whatever guys are attractive, some guys thin guys are attractive, some bulky guys are attractive, some young guys are attractive, some old guys are attractive..... I find my boyfriend's green eyes very attractive. That doesn't mean that every or even most guys with green eyes are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:30 PM
1

Same principals, just expressed differently
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:23 PM
0

It depends on the man, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:22 PM
3

Describe what makes food delicious. Be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:50 PM
1

That's impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:35 PM
1

and you will continue to fail, only with less money
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:32 AM
1

enjoy wasting your money
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:24 AM
1

Your problem is that you're insane. You should see someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:19 AM
1

short ugly people get laid everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:16 AM
1

here's a fact for you: ugly people get laid every day. seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:09 AM
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You've proven over and over again that you are an extremely poor judge of what is true and false. You have admitted that you hold your beliefs despite all available facts proving you wrong. I don't believe a god damn thing you say
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 06:02 AM
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You need professional mental help, not plastic surgery. You live in a fantasy land
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:51 AM
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Most 21 year olds are not on tinder. you're delusional. Less than 15% of adults use online dating at all
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:45 AM
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You stand by nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:38 AM
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also, what is with incels thinking that most people use tinder? delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:38 AM
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And you won't find a shred of evidence that there are significantly more male virgins anywhere you look, now or in 5 years. Keep trying though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:36 AM
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incels lied to you my dude. time to accept reality and grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:33 AM
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and it only lasts a few years. By 25, they're even. there are not more male virgins. Men simply lose their virginity a little older than women. There's no crisis. Basically everyone is having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:24 AM
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Source? https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/ The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males aged 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for both male and female virgins aged 25 to 29 and goes as low as 0.3 percent for virgins aged 40 to 44. The biggest discrepancy is a margin of 2% in the early and mid twenties, evening out after that. Adult virginity is extremely rare for both men and women, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:20 AM
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Yes, more than one women having sex with one man. Not to any significant degree. Most people are partnered. Hence incels. Many more male Incels/FAs than the other way around. there are not more male virgins than female virgins. Male virgins just whine a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:13 AM
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It's pretty special to live with a person for 5 years and not want to murder them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 05:05 AM
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I aspire to be of service
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:27 AM
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Emotionally open, honest, accountable, of service to those around him, clever, responsible without being a workaholic, measured/ calm, kind, attractive, and super into me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:23 AM
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Any evidence? you do realize that if a straight woman has sex, a straight guy also gets to have sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 04:21 AM
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Men lie about their intentions in order to get sex all the time. Again, you're talking a lot but haven't even tried to prove your original point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 12:46 AM
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So you're acknowledging that getting lied to about sex is something that happens to men and women. You're only proving my point that everyone faces challenges while dating. you're doing a very poor job of getting to the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 11:04 PM
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Given that the majority of women are now overweight, So are the men, making it more even. Average overweight guys still aggressively pursue average overweight women well into their thirties and forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:46 PM
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Simple revenge fantasy, not dissimilar to the assertion that slutty stacy will live to regret her college hookups when she can't find a good guy to marry her. Simply false sour grapes. Source: am woman in my thirties. Dudes are as thirsty now as they were in my twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:42 PM
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Do you think child support stats are theories or facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:41 PM
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wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:15 PM
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Let me know if you want some facts. Something tells me that you lack the intellectual curiosity to want to correct your misunderstanding of provable facts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:15 PM
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Then why are so many feminine men successful with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:56 PM
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Which sex ends up paying child support and which has all the choices about if to have/keep the child again. From where i stand men take far more of a risk than women Actually, women pay much much more than men on average to raise children. Not sure where you're getting your information. And of course women have to consider the physical consequences of pregnancy and birth control. How many false rape claims are women on the receiving end of. Very, very few. A teeny tiny fraction of the amount of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:55 PM
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All of those things happen to women, just not as frequently as men. There are plenty of challenges that disproportionately effect women as well. I could correctly claim that men don't have to worry as much about potentially being used for sex, carrying the risk and responsibly of birth control and birth control failure, harsher judgment for sexual activity, being at higher risk for physical abuse and sexual assault, etc. Does that mean men don't have to consider these things as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:44 PM
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I'm not sure what specifically is turning guys off other than the awkwardness. She is super attractive physically. We've been friends since we were infants so it's difficult for me to be objective. She has gone on at least a few dates with dudes on the spectrum, but I'm not sure she has a community to meet people like her. That would be nice. She's trying online dating right now, which is going about as well as you'd expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:12 PM
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My friend is a bit more sensitive than yours I think. She doesn't fit in, but she very much wants to. Everyone loves her, but she is extremely awkward. She dated a guy in college who was such a worthless fuck that her family dumped him for her. He was taking advantage of her innate naivete and was just a nightmare of a person. Other than that, she's only had a few dates here and there. She's still trying and I believe she could find someone eventually. It will just have to be a very special dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 06:05 PM
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Ok, so you do believe that women are immune to relationship challenges. Can you think of a common dating complaint that doesn't apply to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:54 PM
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Yes. They just have to have something to offer a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:50 PM
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So you agree that dating is frustrating and hard for everyone, just in different ways for different people?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:47 PM
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Ya, it's a bummer. She's a real sweetheart. She gets approached all the time, but men lose interest after one or two dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:44 PM
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Can you explain why you think attractive people and women are immune to dating challenges?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:43 PM
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Why are you dodging my questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:37 PM
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Me too! Sadly, there isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:34 PM
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Is getting cheated on less painful if you're hot? Is dealing with shared finances easier if you're hot? Do hot people ever have a bad day and take it out on their partner? Can hot people suffer from physical or mental illness? Do hot people ever lose their jobs? Do hot people ever get dumped? Do hot people divorce? Do hot people experience unplanned pregnancy? Do hot people ever have to deal with things like addiction, anger, grief, or stress?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:27 PM
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Hot guys have wants, needs, desires, boundaries, fears, insecurities, and character defects just like anyone else. Having a pretty face to look at doesn't help navigate these issues. Attractive people are not super human, and are vulnerable to all the same pitfalls and challenges as everyone else. I don't know Justin Bieber, but I'm willing to bet the farm he has his fair share of flaws that would challenge a partner. Because he's a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 05:02 PM
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The way she vaguely and embarrassingly speaks of her regretful past life choices and her "rage and fear" of men has lead me to believe she has refrained from heterosexual relationships due to political reasons. However, I did leave open the possibility of it being because of traumatic reasons. This is pretty narrow. I have a close friend who is attractive, sweet, 32, baby crazy, single, and sad about it. She isn't single because of political reasons or trauma or insane standards. She's single be…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:58 PM
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I found success the good old fashioned way, trial, error and a bit of luck. My success doesn't make dating any less difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:49 PM
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Dating is just fundamentally shitty and frustrating for everyone. I haven't experienced 98% of the issues I've heard complained about on here by both sides, and I could still muster up a few complaints myself. Dating sucks. Attractive people have it easier when getting our foot in the door, but after that there's still innumerable challenges ahead that being hot won't help you with. Being frustrated with dating is simply a result of dating. It doesn't have anything to do with pills, and less to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:42 PM
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I'm sure it's a thing, just a very very overblown and exaggerated thing
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 04:45 AM
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That's quite a reach. If I say Duck Cheney is a piece of shit, am I attacking men or a specific man? Do you see it as all the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 01:38 AM
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Not sexist, just repulsive and rude
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 11:48 PM
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Are the top posts on twox attacking men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 11:46 PM
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If you developed a crush on someone else while in a monogamous LTR, how would you handle it? Entertain a few personal fantasies and then forget about it If your SO developed a crush on someone and came to you about it, what would your response be? If you prefer they not tell you, how would you ideally want them to handle it? I don't see the point in my partner telling me he has a crush unless he's planning on acting on it. Crushes are normal and I expect he's had a few. I don't see how the way h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 09:12 PM
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That's literally the question asked
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 08:37 PM
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I don't think Dworkin brand critical theory is worth a debate, honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:20 PM
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Do you understand what "exclusive" means? Because I really don't think you do....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:16 PM
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Nothing in that source claims exclusivity of male attraction. Can you find a better source? Does homosexuality exist? Pedophilia? Bestiality? Fat fetishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:08 PM
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Where do you see anyone saying there's a trend? Why is it so hard for you to stay on topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:01 PM
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Is it inherently problematic that men are biologically programmed to be exclusively attracted to young, fit and fertile women? They're not, though. Men are attracted to young, old, fat, thin, children, animals, other men, inanimate objects...... There's nothing "exclusive" about male attraction at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:58 PM
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Because if you watch what men do instead of listening to what they say, men do want a dolled up woman with heavy makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:51 PM
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This is true for any character defect someone complains about in other people. People who bitch about drama are always dramatic, people who bitch about flakiness are flakey, people who complain about crazies are crazy. Always always pay attention to what someone whines about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:50 PM
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It means that she believes that woman is unattractive. It's just a matter of opinion. I can think of two "low quality" (in my opinion)women in my circle. One is super nice, smart, funny, and fun to be around, but severely overweight and dealing with serious addiction issues she's not addressing. I feel like her being a poor choice for a partner would be pretty universally agreed upon. As much as I adore her (and I really do), I wouldn't recommend anyone I care about date her. Another is a work a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:42 PM
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Read the whole comment before replying
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 06:17 PM
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educated and high earning men might fuck the hot waitress, but they generally don't commit to them. People date and marry within their education and income bracket across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 07:57 AM
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Men complain about makeup because many women overdo it. It's also used to hide messed up skin or to enhance an otherwise less attractive face. Makeup can be very deceptive. And yet heavily made up women rarely have issues attracting good men, unlike the more natural ladies. Watch what men do, not what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 04:53 AM
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The increase in suicide and depression shows us that it's not teaching men self reliance. It's simply denying them of their needs
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 01:11 AM
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It could, but it likely won't. If you aren't attracted to someone or if they aren't attracted to you, it's best for all involved to assume that won't change and to just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 01:08 AM
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along with extreme levels of depression and suicide Some people are happier living a solo lifestyle, no doubt. But pretending that men don't have the same basic human need for connection and closeness as women is both harmful and proveably wrong. Humans are social creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:59 AM
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It's helpful if you stay on topic. You're getting your panties in a bunch over something no one said
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:57 AM
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Sounds like closet bisexuality/homosexuality to be quite honest. Oh jeez I can't fully agree here because testosterone can/does play a role on empathy and emotions and lacking emotion or having blunted emotion in a man can be natural. On top of that this kind of behavior can yield men the results they want even if it's damaging in the long term. Your argument would make sense if testosterone only started effecting male behaviour in the past 80 years or so. Stoic masculinity is a modern trend, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:52 AM
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I do disagree that that women should have any part of those bonding patterns. Again, who are you arguing with?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:45 AM
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I don't know about negotiable, but definitely subject to change. I saw my boyfriend everyday for over a year before I got to know him and he made no impression on me whatsoever. He was just a guy. After our first in depth conversation, I was interested. After our third date, I was basically obsessed with him. If we had never gotten into that first real conversation, I would have never considered him an attractive guy. 7 years later I still find him irresistibly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:42 AM
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I'm simply stating the facts that this is not how men have related to each other historically or naturally. Do you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/17 12:17 AM
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Nope. Also made zero suggestions on how men should interact with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 11:36 PM
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Who's doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 11:23 PM
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You said that women who are victims of harassment are hypoagents. I have never heard anyone make that claim outside of defenders of sexual harassers. Can you show an example otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:36 PM
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There are tons of cultures worldwide that don't suppress male intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:08 PM
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This is a modern phenomenon. Historically, intimate friendships between men were normal. Man friends would hold hands, hug and kiss, even share beds much like women do. This modern standard of emotionless, stoic, Clint Eastwood style masculinity is neither natural nor traditional, and is generally damaging. I do see this slowly changing, which is encouraging. I do believe that the very best part of being a woman is my relationships with other women. Nothing compares.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:50 PM
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You are the one claiming that having ones agency violated makes them a hypoagent. Most people understand that being a victim of harassment doesn't mean the victim is void of agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:46 PM
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Right. Can you provide examples of anyone viewing Crews as a hypoagent? No, because he isn't. Neither are female victims of harassment. Having your agency violated doesn't mean you have no agency at all
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:13 PM
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They're viewed as weak men intellectually appropriating a female issue to play "me too" games. Can you find any examples of people calling Crews weak for suing his attacker? Terry Crews would never be viewed as a "victim" if he gave consent for someone in a superior position to perform sexual actions in his vacinity if he later accused the woman of sexual harassment. But he didn't consent. He was groped against his will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 08:00 PM
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What do you make of the #metoo campaign? Isn't that evidence that powerful men have been given a "dick pass" for deviant behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:45 PM
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In my experience, most couples can't can't survive this kind of arrangement unscathed. That said, there are exceptions and I personally know happy couples who have been in committed non monogamous relationships for decades. Like all kinks and kicks, I consider it none of my business and don't have a generalized opinion on it. Not a choice I would make, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:40 PM
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Hard to tell on here sometimes ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:37 PM
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Rejecting something is not blaming it. I reject the temptation to blame my problems on others and instead choose to focus on solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:35 PM
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Do you think people view Terry Crews or other male victims of harassment as "hypoagents"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:34 PM
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Destroy scapegoat culture. In modern times, everyone needs an enemy to blame their troubles on. This is incredibly pervasive, just look at American politics. Sometimes our lives suck just because life sometimes sucks. Sometimes it's our own fault, sometimes it's a result of fundamental disadvantage, sometimes it just is for no reason at all. This obsession with assigning blame is so destructive and prevents people from adopting a solution oriented mindset, which leads to self righteous anger and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:25 PM
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Why do TV shows tell me that a down on her luck waitress can afford a funky little apartment in New York City? Why are you using pop culture as a metric for realistic expectations? It's fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:20 PM
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I'm making general statements about snowflake extremists on any platform. My point is that most fringe groups make mountains out of mole hills and exaggerate perceived problems for the sake of validating their sense of victimhood. They come in all flavors, and the manosphere has their fair share.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:17 PM
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And those women have been roundly criticized
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:15 PM
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They require time, which a lot of students simply don't have
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:29 AM
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I mean, if you're just gonna call anyone who disagrees with your position a "crybaby" you're obviously not looking to actually debate, you're just looking to feel superior to strangers on the internet. Well done I guess. Do you have a better descriptor for people who can't handle criticism? Do you seriously deny the example I just gave, as far as the real world outside goes? I've provided evidence that criticising women is normal and common. I'm curious to see if you have contrary evidence beyon…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:28 AM
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That's on Reddit though. Reddit skews to a specific demographic especially if you post in the pillosphere. I'm talking about the actual real world. Crybabies are rare in the real world, so there's no real way to measure Personally I don't care too much, I'm just pointing out a double standard does in fact exist But with no evidence I'd also counter: Why should women complaining about men be exempt from blowback? Why are they special? They're not, and I've shown evidence that proves they're not. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:08 AM
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I know anytime I say something even slightly critical of men or masculinity I get an inbox full of butthurt dudes. I imagine the same would be true if you say something critical about women. A question you should be asking yourself is why you care? Why should men complaining about women be exempt from blowback? Why are they special? If you choose to generalize or criticize groups of people, you can't whine when you are criticized in return. Boo hoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:04 AM
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What I'm asking for is evidence that there is a strong social message that women can do no wrong and are exempt from criticism. So far, all I've gotten are examples of people complaining about shitty women or women in general which is only proving my assumption correct. Criticizing women is mainstream and normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 11:54 PM
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Good looking, smart, nice girls who regularly have casual flings with the same guy. Not everyone wants to settle down or marry, not everyone puts themselves out of the market. especially in college. Who has time and mental energy for a relationship if you're studying and working? I sure didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 11:43 PM
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That sub is actually a perfect example of my point, that people complaining about this attitude are way more common and prominent than the issue itself. Not dissimilar to extreme right wingers losing their minds over the "war on Christmas". I've never actually heard anyone argue that we should cancel Christmas, but I've heard a lot of wackjobs complaining about this elusive movement. Can you find a sub that is dedicated to the claim that women do no wrong? That's the kind of example I'm asking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 11:38 PM
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We're done here. Your go to when you can't back your shit up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:49 PM
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If you can't back up your argument, I am not interested in debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:48 PM
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you've yet to show any evidence that there are more single men than women, without which your whole argument is moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:37 PM
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Can you show us an example instead of telling a story?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:36 PM
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It's not obvious because most men are partnered and 99.7% of humans have sex. If you're part of the .3%, you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:32 PM
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Can you show us an example instead of telling a story?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:31 PM
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And I'm asking for evidence that challenges my view instead of drinking the koolaid. See the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:28 PM
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I can imagine that would get old. My job is pretty nebulous and not easily stereotyped so I don't have to deal with that. Excellent career you have there. I owe my life to a good RN. It's a tough job.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:20 PM
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Do you have any evidence this is the norm beyond your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:14 PM
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Can you show us a significant example? I see way more of the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:14 PM
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There are entire subreddits dedicated to criticizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:12 PM
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I certainly don't care what men think of my career, but it has been significant in my dating life. The men I've dated are highly educated and career focused and seek the same in their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:11 PM
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Above them in what way? Have you ever met a person who isn't better than you in some capacity?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:03 PM
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I've never heard a woman say that men don't like bitches. Women know men like bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:02 PM
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The fishermen are full of shit, though. Just take some of the terpers here. "Men don't care about your career" "Men won't commit to you if you have more than X sex partners" "Men hate heavy makeup" "Men don't like domineering bitches" "Men will stop finding you attractive when you hit 30" None of that is even a little bit true. Why should women listen to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:57 PM
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confirmation bias. If I went looking for people saying we should throw jews off bridges, I could very easily do so. That doesn't mean these people are significant enough to cause me to be upset. Angry people like to have something to be outraged about, and will never have a hard time finding those things. It's a misuse of energy that is very easy in the internet age.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:38 PM
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what men say they want is often very different from what they actually pursue. Take makeup and "high maintenance" women. A lot of men complain about makeup and superficial vanity, but they'll chase after the dolled up Stacy over a more laid back natural gal almost every time. Just do what you do and be who you are without worrying what the opposite sex says is desirable. They're usually wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:34 PM
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If I encountered this with any significant level of frequency, it would bother me. I don't see this message much if at all other than trp types complaining about it. It's too rare to be relevant. If everyone took fringe extremists online seriously, we'd all be outraged all the time. Find something better to do with your mental energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:28 PM
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nothing wrong with being ambitious, just if you're a whiney baby when you don't get what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:13 PM
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That's interesting that good looking men are far more likely to be harassers than ugly men! The stereotype is that the typical sexual harasser is an ugly, smelly guy that lacks social skills - but in reality I'd imagine "beta" guys tend to be shy around women and if they do hold misogynistic views, they tend to be private about them and not act on them. Average or below average guys are way less likely to persist with a woman who's shown disinterest or rejected him. In my experience, attractive …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 05:51 PM
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I definitely would not describe my brother as especially masculine by any metric. My friend's husband on the other hand does have several hypermasculine qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:56 PM
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problems for who?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:49 PM
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No one's advocating cheating. I'm challenging your claim that cheating for certain reasons is better than cheating for other reasons. So far, you have not been able to explain why you hold that belief. Because it's horseshit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:21 AM
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not sure about my brother, but they are a very affectionate couple so I'm guessing their sex life is fine? They are currently trying to get pregnant. I get details from my friend and they have always had a very active sex life. It slowed down a bit after she gave birth, which is normal, but she was very stoked to get back to normal asap. Her husband is very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:05 AM
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No, I need a man who can take care of himself. A man who cannot hold down a job is a threat to my resources and well-being
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:03 AM
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So sexual satisfaction is more important than meeting basic financial needs in order to survive?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:47 AM
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One of my brothers did this for the first few years of his son's life. His wife earns more money so it made the most financial sense. Other than the common challenges of any stay at home parent (exhaustion/sleep deprivation, isolation, stress, etc), it worked out beautifully for them and they are planning to do the same for their second child that they are trying for now. My close friend went back to work when her infant was 2 months old and her husband is also staying home. Again because she's …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:46 AM
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Can you explain how it's different and better than cheating on him with someone who can better sexually satisfy me?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:40 AM
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One of the most interesting patterns in TRP is considering individual women having divergent opinions as hypocrisy. "Amanda said A and then Jennifer said B! Lol women are so fickle make up your minds!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:34 AM
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We're talking about cheating specifically. which of the two scenarios I offered is more harmful?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:18 AM
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If we take this study as proof, hypergamy doesn't exist in western society
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 03:17 AM
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So it's better if I cheat on my boyfriend because he has a small dick or erectile dysfunction vs. because he can't hold down a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 02:16 AM
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A vast majority of my interactions are pleasant or neutral. When I do encounter a negative and unpleasant interaction, there's about a 85% chance it's with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 02:06 AM
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Why do I volunteer when I'm not getting paid and sacrificing my day off? I've only ever banged guys who were sweet and generous to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 02:02 AM
2

anything not involving a caste system?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 02:00 AM
4

Let's see that "study" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 10:50 PM
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It's not a theory based in logic, it's passing the buck and avoiding taking blame for one's own failures. It's tricky, because one shouldn't necessarily blame themselves completely for romantic failures. Failure is part of the process and isn't always within our control. What is not helpful is adopting a mindset that it's never your fault, that it's because of standards that are too high or promiscuity or hypergamy or whatever the scapegoat of the day is. It is comforting to view oneself as a he…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:58 PM
2

There isn't one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:12 PM
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1: What's the point of all the talk about N-count if there's no way to even determine any given woman's N-count? It's literally impossible. There is no point beyond autistic nitpicking, really. **2: Are there ANY circumstances under which a woman might over-report her N-count, and what would be the implications if that possibility were there as well as underreportage? A lot of people don't keep an exact record. If someone is making an educated guess, there's always a chance it will be off in one…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 06:31 PM
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How do you explain the MASSIVE disparity between the amount of lonely men and lonely women? There simply isn't a massive disparity. Roughly the same amount of women and men are single, with women actually making up a small majority of single Americans. (https://www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2017/single-americans-week.html) There is no crisis. It only seems like that to the tiny percentage of people on the bottom. Again, this is a result of a victim complex. Really, just use your com…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 04:55 PM
1

I'm sorry that you're only just learning that maintaining a boner is an important part of sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 06:07 AM
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There is no substitute for PIV. A man who has erectile or ejaculate issues will not be able to satisfy certain women. It's a bummer, but it's reality. No amount of foreplay can make up for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 03:13 AM
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All children over any adults, yes. Adults at least have a chance to save themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 02:03 AM
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yep
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 01:30 AM
3

you're describing wanting something you don't have, which happens to everyone. Not necessarily entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 10:58 PM
1

Do you really think that foreplay is a replacement for PIV? yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 10:40 PM
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That's not a real thing that happens. I hope you know that. But just to humor you, my priorities would be Children Me/ my family Everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 10:38 PM
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A lot of women get off with PIV. Without that option, they will be left unsatisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 10:31 PM
1

Is this a serious question?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 10:20 PM
2

These would be the harassers
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 06:47 PM
2

How is it idiotic to break up with someone who can't sexually satisfy you? Seems idiotic to stay in a relationship with shitty sex to me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:49 PM
1

No. Sexual compatibility is very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:39 PM
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Having bartended for over 12 years, I've seen my fair share of sexual harassment against me and my customers by all types of people. I've definitely had to throw out more than a few women for inappropriate behavior towards my male patrons. If I had to guess the breakdown by numbers, it would be something like this 65% attractive men 10% very drunk average or below average guys 10% Women 15% straight up crazy people (usually a pretty even mix) In sketchy situations where I feel I need to approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:27 PM
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Depends on perspective. When I was in grad school, I wanted to get laid but didn't have the time or desire for a committed relationship. I had casual arrangements with a few guys who I assume were likely sleeping with other women as well. When I graduated and decided I wanted a boyfriend, I ended my casual relationships and found a suitable partner for a committed relationship. My casual relationships weren't degrading because I never felt degraded. They were mutually agreed upon and we each got…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:43 AM
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So you believe that the definition of compatible requires that it be perfect and constant for eternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 05:02 AM
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Are you new to this sub or similar ones? They're are loads of guys here who feel entitled to high quality women. They're not shy about it at all. I would like 5 million dollars, but I'm not ranting about how I don't have it day in and day out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 04:19 AM
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entitlement is wanting something while also thinking you deserve it and are victimized by not having it. A terper put it perfectly a few days ago when he asked "are we just supposed to be ok with second place??". Yes. Why do you think you deserve the blue ribbon?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 04:04 AM
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prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:55 AM
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You feel like it must be true, but are unable to provide any evidence for it. Doesn't cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:43 AM
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You are correct. There is no logic for you to debate with. You don't debate logic, that is why it is logic. You lack the ability to reason at a high level, or to comprehend logical nuance, which is why you don't even bother to logically respond to anything. I don't debate delusional people on matter of principal, but I'm bored and you're entertaining so I'll bite. You blurt out useless unsupported opinions like unwanted farts. And yet you can't help but chime in with your envious assertions. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 12:34 AM
3

feels over reals with you guys, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:58 PM
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There's no logic for me to debate with. You're upset that I mocked and rejected a man who was behaving like a child. I don't care what childish men have to say in defense of other childish men. He is free to make a fool of himself, I am free to criticize him for it. I did the logical thing to do after encountering a low quality man, which is find a better one. He's nothing more than an amusing story to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:45 PM
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Triggered by the fact that most women have little patience for men who act like children? You must be on edge a lot. What reason would I or anyone have to waste my time with an insecure weirdo? Pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:34 PM
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Changing the meaning of words is a great way to win an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:24 PM
3

I'm still waiting for him to back himself up. Maybe you can help him? He's having a hard time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:14 PM
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But it was all an illusion, remember?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:13 PM
1

"I've never inspired lust in a partner"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:26 PM
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So one commenter out of more than 100 who doesn't even sleep with men. that's your evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:25 PM
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less than half is not "most"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:23 PM
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Show us
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 10:17 PM
3

That was a hilarious attempt at twisting words and you know it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:47 PM
5

Wives are also obligated by law to support their spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:38 PM
3

Are wives entitled to their husband's money?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:32 PM
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ok I'll wait for you to show us those comments. Won't hold my breath
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:31 PM
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So you withdrawal this part of your statement? --yes, asshole, but only if he's a TRPer --Yes, he's an asshole, because only a TRPer would break up with a woman for not getting good sex/not getting the sex he wants How DARE a man actually want something from his relationship! The NERVE!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:27 PM
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And that's true. Girlfriends aren't obligated to fuck their boyfriends, and boyfriends aren't obligated to stay in sexless relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:24 PM
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that's not the question here. the question is whether or not sexual incompatibility is a legitimate reason to dump someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:21 PM
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Let's see it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:17 PM
8

I challenge you to find any comments like that from any thread here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:12 PM
7

Do you understand what bp means?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:10 PM
3

I'm not rp
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:04 PM
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I've never heard anyone from any side making such a claim. If my boyfriend withheld sex from me for any reason other than illness or injury, I would dump him immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 07:00 PM
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The question we should be asking is why so many average or below average men feel entitled to their choice of attractive women, or feel like they're getting the short stick by not getting what higher quality men get. If you're an average guy who believes that average amounts of sex with average women isn't good enough for you, you're going to be a perpetually frustrated victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 06:50 PM
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If you're interested, you should read more about the accusations and evidence against him. He is accused of forcible sexual contact and other vey illegal things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:25 PM
1

Are we not talking about Weinstein? He stands accused of sex crimes with credible evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:01 PM
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No one cares that sex is happening, people are upset that sex crimes are happening. If you take the women out of the industry, there is no industry period.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:46 PM
1

No one gets anything from a one night stand other than sex itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:09 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:09 PM
1

almost all men have partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:08 PM
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Dude, those producers and directors need actresses to produce and direct. How the fuck can actresses do their jobs without being in contact with these men? how can these men do their jobs without these actresses? Use common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:08 PM
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I think they mean that women use sex to get something they want from men like money or commitment. While that can be true, it often isn't. If it were, women would never have one night stands or casual sex. People fuck just to fuck all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 06:12 AM
3

How is Hollywood a man's world?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:33 AM
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These are good. I've stuck to that and it's worked out well for me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:25 AM
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Don't waste five minutes with a guy who isn't Super in to me Responsible/accountable Sexual compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:22 AM
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Because the people who usually speak like that tend to believe that all sex is transactional, which is totally false. Sex can be transactional, but often isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:26 AM
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my partner and I have been splitting living costs down the middle and keeping everything else separate for years, and that works for us. I own the home we live in and don't plan on ever adding him to the deed, so he pays his share of the mortgage as rent and I'm on the hook for taxes and home repairs/ improvements. I earn a bit more than him, but we both live comfortably within our income level with enough to save. We've never had any problems related to money and we don't have any plans to merg…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:25 AM
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I think being attracted to toxic people is pretty common across genders and orientations. In my observation, it's usually rooted in an avoidance or fear of commitment and/or self esteem issues. Sometimes the prospect of a successful, stable relationship is scarier than the prospect of a brief trash fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:17 AM
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I'm simply asking for evidence to back up your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:15 AM
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Congratulations. No one gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:15 AM
1

You think prostitution is narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:14 AM
1

You're free to be a annoying whiney brat, just don't whine harder when you're labeled as such and women find you repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:36 PM
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I think that narcissism and entitlement are a big issue for modern young men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:28 PM
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So it's ok for you to be a whiney brat because some women are also whiney brats?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:28 PM
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I ended 3 and have been dumped twice. Threw a fit 0 times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:26 PM
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Are the top posts of twox all man blaming? Check out incels, nice guys, mgtow.....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 11:26 PM
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can you show me the online communities dedicated to women blaming men for their problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 10:47 PM
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My point is that most normal people aren't whiney victims about dating, but those who are are usually men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:04 PM
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All you're doing is justifying why men here are so whiney. It doesn't matter how justified you feel, it's gross and childish. There is no justification for being a whiney victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 07:29 PM
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Sure have. I only follow adults though so I don't see any whining from anyone ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 07:02 PM
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They don't seem to be whining about it online nearly as much as men. I've yet to see any significant number of women lash out at men in general because of a failed relationship. Men like that are a dime a dozen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:56 PM
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Ok, I earn more money than my partner. I have more higher education than my partner. I'm better looking than my partner. Am I superior to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:31 PM
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It depends on how it's said and who's saying it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:28 PM
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Your arguing that men are oppressed because they don't have their pick of any woman they want at all times. Pardon me for not busting out my violin. I've been dumped, you don't see me crying about it and demanding justice. I don't see any women demanding sympathy here, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:26 PM
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The difference is that many men here blame all their problems on women. The women on here are quick to call out narcissism and failure, but instead of blaming men for their problems simply find better men to spend time with. You have to understand that most men aren't nearly as whiney and arrogant as men on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:25 PM
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Are we supposed to feel sorry for men because some of their relationships end in breakups?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:22 PM
3

Gonna be cliche and say my dad and eldest brother. They are cut from the same cloth. Both are reserved but confident, strong but kind, supportive and motivating. I've yet to have any problem in my life that they can't offer good and useful advice for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:21 PM
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I tend to prefer shyer men, but often shyness is a symptom of low self esteem. Men with low self esteem make terrible partners, in my experience. luckily I haven't had too hard a time finding reserved men who are also self- assured. It just takes time to get to know them well enough, but I'm patient.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:17 PM
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I see a lot less whining from the women here in general
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:12 PM
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Because I have managed to avoid insecure narcissists and whiners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 06:04 PM
1

Right, and then they find another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:14 AM
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Men clearly aren't struggling to meet these standards, you're simply afraid that they might in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:12 AM
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So you acknowledge that this is an imaginary problem that you're simply anxious might come up at some point?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:10 AM
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Apparently someone does, considering your profound ignorance on this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:09 AM
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most men meet the standards of at least several women throughout their lives
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:07 AM
0

And yet a vast majority of men have partners
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:04 AM
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Everyone has standards, even the lowest value among us.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 05:00 AM
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because I'm an adult who understands basic economics and rental markets. I'm not your high school teacher. Learn your common sense on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:59 AM
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Just makes me feel more grateful for my boyfriend and ex boyfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:56 AM
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No seriously, I'm curious. Have you ever met a person in your life who couldn't be considered superior to you in some way? I haven't. The woman with Down's syndrome I used to watch speaks 2 languages fluently and folds intricate origami. I can't do that. My 6 year old nephew watched two YouTube video tutorials and can suddenly French braid his mother's hair, something I've attempted and failed hundreds of times in 33 years. Women choose men who are superior to them in some way because it's liter…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:51 AM
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Have you ever met a person who isn't better than you in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:40 AM
2

Ok, discounted rent. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 04:38 AM
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No, I view my boyfriend as an adult who pays for what he uses just like everyone else. I don't view myself as an atm for grown men. You still haven't explained why he shouldn't have to pay rent
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 03:57 AM
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You clearly haven't spent a lot of time around these people. Half of my family are career criminals. They all get laid, but only by trash like themselves. White collar criminals might date more well adjusted people, but by and large the gangbangers and violent people stick to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:52 AM
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You realize that landlords are business people, right? They charge a premium so they can make a profit. By paying me rent on the actual cost of my mortgage, he's saving tons of money I feel like I'm explaining adult 101 to high schoolers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 12:13 AM
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No, he's paying rent. I pay mortgage. Rentals aren't supposed to be investments. He's getting a better deal with me than he would a regular landlord, so he is getting a deal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:18 PM
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If you think the rent would be lower on the market vs renting directly from me, you really don't understand the rental economy at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:38 PM
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TIL confronting issues straight on is shit testing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:14 PM
6

My mother once described my figure as "slutty". There's some body types that look sexually provocative in everything other than a loose garbage bag, and I have one of those (not dissimilar from Katy Perry). Ultimately I just stopped giving a fuck and dressing for comfort. If some dudes get triggered, they can be triggered.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:50 PM
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This. My tits are way more pronounced in a plain white t shirt than a black tank top. When you're busty, every shirt is a cleavage shirt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:47 PM
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Do you look for people who have similar features to important people in your past in an effort to recreate the same or a similar relationship that you had with this past person? If so, what are the features you look for and why are they important to the recreation of the relationship? Sometimes. My first love was a shy and reserved guy, and I really enjoyed that balanced with my outgoing personality. I've held on to that preference all my dating life and it's worked out well for me. On the flip …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:58 PM
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I haven't had orbiters since high school, and the only reason I had them then was because I was too naive and inexperienced to realize what was going on. "Oh Nick doesn't have a crush on me, he just walks me home two miles out of his way because we're friends!" or "Wow Tim baked me my favorite pie from scratch for my birthday! What a nice friend!". Stupid kid stuff. Usually a boy who was too shy and clueless to be upfront and me being too young and dumb to read the signals. No purposeful manipul…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:50 PM
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The fundamental cores for quality are the same for men and women, just expressed differently. Honesty, accountability, loyalty, integrity, attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:42 PM
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why do you think he shouldn't pay rent? It's my house he chooses to live in. He could buy his own house or pay rent elsewhere. Why should I be financially responsible for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:49 PM
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I can't believe that there are adults here who don't understand rent. Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:48 PM
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What a lot of assumptions you've made in your arrogance. Not surprising in the least. It's pretty ironic that you call him unwise when you've already asserted that you believe that your partner shouldn't have to pay his or her share in your house, don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:53 AM
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Yes I do , And I understand how more complex financial instruments work as well. This situation isn't working for the idiot paying your rent, You get ownership while he gets shit and you are in a relationship? That's called renting. Regardless, I'd bet my left one that I am 10 times richer than you and I don't have to exploit my wife to get there. TIL not paying my boyfriend's way is exploiting him. Good to know. All I can say is thank god I ended up with a man who doesn't believe he deserves to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:50 AM
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So, you're scared of renting. Most adults navigate this very normal part of everyday responsibility pretty easily and don't expect handouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:25 AM
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You think renting is scary?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:14 AM
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Seriously. The dummy had it in the bag. I had already agreed to a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 07:40 AM
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Do you understand how rentals work? He is using half the home, he pays for half the home. When someone rents a home someone else owns, the landlord doesn't pay the mortgage, the tenants do. No one gets a free ride. When I lived there alone, I paid the full mortgage. If he moves out, I will again. Until then, he pays for what he uses like every other functioning adult. Man, so many dudes here who get triggered by adult responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:28 AM
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This is an odd question but I'll bite. I've dated at least two guys with eczema that come to mind. That's super common from what I understand. My most recent ex has mild to moderate adult acne, but so do I so no biggie. My current partner doesn't have any skin issues other than an occasional reoccurring rash on his rib cage area that his doctor says is from am unknown food allergy. My ex got a nasty staph infection on his face of all places while doing research in the jungle. That was gnarly as …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:24 AM
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Like 99% of women, I'd rather hump splintered glass than fuck a guy who ends an introductory text with "Am I understood?". He would have to pay me even to read his texts after that. Hilariously pathetic. But hey if you have a kink for getting mocked by women, go for it. Any woman you're talking to on a dating site has at least a dozen men who don't act like 5 year olds vying for her attention. Keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:10 AM
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If I'm interested, I'll be honest and say "Hey, I'm interested in you. Want to go on a date with me?". If a guy I'm interested in says something that could be a little vague like "want to get coffee sometime?" I'll clarify "You mean a date?". I don't like leaving room for misinterpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:54 AM
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sure, buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:43 AM
1

straightforward verbal communication of feelings and intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:35 AM
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How the fuck would he not know that? We've been together over 7 years. I wouldn't date an idiot. What a weird question
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:27 AM
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Because it's a stupid question. What kind of person doesn't know they're paying rent in someone else's house? how would one go about convincing someone they own a house that they don't actually own? How would one convince a partner that they're married when they're not?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 12:13 AM
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No, my boyfriend thinks we're engaged and that my house belongs to him. come on, dude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 11:32 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:57 PM
2

It's both
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:50 PM
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he was very embarrassed about it. It really wasn't in step with his normal personality at all, which is what makes me believe that he was reading some pua garbage online and decided to give it a try. The "am I understood?" at the end is what convinced me. That's some desperate shit right there
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:58 PM
3

That's a pretty silly question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:05 PM
1

he does pay half the mortgage. That's what rent is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:05 PM
1

I'm not in the habit of making people's personal business transactions my concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:20 PM
3

I think the main distinction is that sugar babies have sustained, continuous relationships with their johns instead of being hired for a night
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:04 PM
2

I consider it none of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:02 PM
1

I always find a straightforward approach is best. There are plenty of men who are turned off or intimidated by blunt honesty and lack of games, but those are the ones I'm trying to filter out anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:57 PM
3

Ugh the fucking hair thing. I can't believe how many grown men think it's ok to touch a strangers hair. Not sexy, just invasive and annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:53 PM
1

to them, it's only game if it works
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:50 PM
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during one of my brief stints with online dating, I matched with a guy I kinda knew but hadn't seen in years. We got to talking and catching up, and he asked if I would grab a drink with him. I agreed and gave him my phone number to text me. I immediately received a text that still makes me cringe when I think about it. It went a little something like this "Just so we're clear, I am dating specifically to start a friends wth benefits arrangement or a committed relationship. I'm not going to wast…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:48 PM
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That's common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 06:19 PM
2

No. You said it's not equitable that my boyfriend pays rent. I'm asking you if you would let someone live in the home you pay a mortgage on for free
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:27 PM
1

you've made quite a few false assumptions in your arrogance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 05:26 PM
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Writing is the foundation of most of my self improvement. I find journaling, list making, and stream of consciousness writing helps me think through decisions and keep my thoughts and emotions in balance and clarified. Other than that, I exercise daily, eat a strict diet, don't drink or use any drugs, read as much as possible, work on art, and generally try to learn new things all the time. I have mentors that I keep in contact with and reach out to for guidance. I try to stay humble and teachab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 09:02 AM
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k bye
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:30 AM
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Then you're not listening or paying attention
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:28 AM
2

No
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:23 AM
10

Revenge fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:23 AM
3

Would you let a tenant stay there for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:23 AM
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impossible to say, but I do think my desire for solitude is innate
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:31 AM
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I've had several proposals. My current partner is happy with our arrangement but would marry me tomorrow if I wished.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:29 AM
5

you don't pay rent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:28 AM
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because I'm am active participant in this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:27 AM
3

No. it's my home. I bought it before we lived together.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 07:27 AM
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Not who you asked, but this sub is crawling with low value, frustrated, inexperienced men. If I were an impressionable and inexperienced woman, this sub might make me give up on men all together. Luckily I have enough real world experience to know that a lot of the assertions made here are bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:59 AM
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very
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:30 AM
3

I'd go crazy without sex, but a committed relationship is not necessary to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:20 AM
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He pays for half the mortgage but the home is mine. I made the down payment and it's my investment. I pay for maintenance and improvements. He recently paid for some work in the room he's using as his office, though. He wanted an additional window and I told him to go for it if he wanted to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:11 AM
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I'm not really that far from wgtow. I have a boyfriend, but I do not wish to ever get married, have children, or share any major finances. I let my boyfriend live in the home I own and pay rent, but it will always be in my name alone. I do not consider a romantic partner necessary to my happiness and would not actively seek out another committed relationship in the event that my partner and I break up. The thought of living alone in my old age does not distress or depress me. It's nothing agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 12:04 AM
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A lot more than 50. Hundreds. Friends, associates, clients, coworkers, customers, strangers..... That's pretty normal for a social woman in a populated area.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:50 PM
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I'm talking about earnest requests for dates, in person. Not Tinder swipes or some dude screaming out a car window.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:30 PM
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I'm probably an 7.5 or 8 on my very best day (hard to rate oneself), but I live and work in East Hollywood which is a sea of perfect 10s. It's probable that I get approached more than the average woman, but I don't believe that I'm pursued 50 times more. Being pursued only 5 or 10 times in your life seems extremely low to me for any average woman living in a populated area. Even my best friend who is very obese, shy, and unattractive has been pursued 5 times and maybe more. She lives in a small …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 11:10 PM
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attractive, but not a 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:50 PM
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lol. I went to a club once about 12 years ago and haven't had a sip of alcohol in years. I'm in my mid thirties, not some party girl
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:46 PM
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As a woman who lives in L.A., I find that extremely difficult to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:41 PM
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Most women don't use Tinder. And if you think ugly women who don't leave their houses are getting pursued regularly, you're delusional. I'm going off the assumption that op is a normal woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:34 PM
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No, that's a projection for the purpose of feeling victimized. What she is describing is extremely uncommon. I suppose I would believe it if she lived in a tiny town or never left her apartment, but for a normal woman with normal habits it is quite unbelievable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:34 PM
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She could just be especially unattractive, live in a rural area, be a shut-in, have poor social skills, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:31 PM
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Yeah I must be obese and hideous because I don’t get pursued much if AT ALL. Your words, not mine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:25 PM
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Not necessarily, just uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:12 PM
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I can't imagine what kind of woman would only be pursued 5-10 times in her lifetime. Being approached by men is a constant for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 07:57 PM
2

almost everyone has HPV
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 02:36 AM
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Thousands. Probably tens or hundreds of thousands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 11:14 PM
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All they do is signal puberty/fertility, right? And if they're firm (and natural) they're true indicators of youth, right? They're a "secondary sex characteristic"... Small boobs feed babies just as effectively as big boobs. What youre attracted to is signs of femininity, not necessarily fertility/ health. Exaggerated feminine features like large breasts and shapely hips just make your lizard brain scream "female!" a little more loudly than small breasts and narrow hips.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 06:55 PM
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I can't believe anyone exists that still believes men are the gatekeepers for relationships. Men are the gatekeepers of jack shit. I've gotten casual sex from men when that's what I waned, and commitment when that's what I wanted. Never had an issue finding men willing and eager for either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:33 PM
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I'm going to go on the assumption that by AF/BB you mean that I used some men for casual sex relationships and other men for committed relationships. For me, it had very little to do with the specific men and more to do with my own circumstances at the time. When I was in school and working full time, I had no desire or ability to invest in a committed relationship. I had various casual arrangements with several men during this time. They were all great dudes that I would have probably dated in …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:49 AM
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false
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 05:47 AM
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I have no opinion on anyone's kinks. As long as they don't force their weirdness on me or anyone else without consent, it's none of my business
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 06:41 PM
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Incels tend to greatly exaggerate their ugliness. He's probably just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:07 PM
2

Note the total resistance into accepting any personal responsibility for your failures
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:27 PM
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Who's fault is it that you're undesirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:23 PM
1

not sleeping with you is not wishing death upon you. don't be so dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:12 PM
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common since isn't a thing, you're thinking of common sense. Based upon that message you just typed me I'll suggest you sober up before you comment any further or attempt any sort of debate
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:29 AM
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Bad post. Poorly articulated argument, poor spelling, and a bad liar. Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 07:21 AM
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I think automation and advanced AI will lead to all kinds of crazy consequences. Suicide is likely to be among them but I'm guessing there will be a lot of other factors that are yet unseen that prevent us from really making any serious predictions. This is an unavoidable stage in human evolution that is coming at us like a freight train. It's no one's "fault", and there's not really much to be done about it. This is happening. edit: I do think you are making a mistake when you assume women's jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 05:07 AM
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I have a master's degree and a well paying career, and I'm still unwilling to give up my weekend bartending gig. I usually earn over 600 bucks over two 5 hour shifts, most of which is tax free cash. It's a legit and steady source of income. Almost all of my co-workers are educated and multi talented and have other work or projects going on. I've worked with lawyers, famous musicians, and people with ivy league degrees. It's great if you don't mind a frantic environment and weird hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 04:13 AM
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I try. We don't always have control over what happens to us, but we always have control over how we react. It's good to take time to reflect before taking action.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:08 PM
2

I actually have a method to deal with this. I journal everyday and always end with a list of things that are bothering me that day and possible solutions. If the issue is with another person that might be upset with me or that I might be upset with, I write from my perspective and their possible perspective. I also write about my options. What would happen if I confronted it? Ignored it? Apologized? Stuck to my guns? Walk away? This usually helps me gain a broader perspective and see my part in …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 06:01 PM
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Yes and no. I'm always honest and upfront with my intentions and take my partner's word for it that they're on the same page. If they weren't being honest initially, that's not really my problem. If their feelings change over time, that's a bummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:28 PM
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This has happened with me at least 4 times in my life and has always followed the same pattern: guy I want casual sexual relationship with says he wants casual sexual relationship with me, later confesses feelings and wants to commit, I end the relationship. Not really much more to it than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:07 PM
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Pretty sure he hasn't had sex in years. He very much needs therapy, we've all tried with him. War fucked him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:30 AM
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He's a loose cannon for sure. I've known the guy all my life and I'm afraid of him. At 37, he's never had a girlfriend, even though he's attractive. Because he's such a psycho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 04:14 AM
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it's a crime no matter what. If I steal a car and the owner doesn't care, I'm still getting arrested
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 02:38 AM
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Some guys might like it if I run up to them in the street and kick him in the nuts. I can't possibly know who will and won't like that. Should I just give it a try and see?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 02:37 AM
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Sources or stfu
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:37 AM
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The creepiest dude I ever met never actually did or said anything creepy in my presence, nor did I hear anyone else complain about being creeped on by him. He was always normal and polite (maybe a tad socially awkward), he looked like a regular guy, he just had this vibe. After spending a few days around this guy, I decided to look him up on the sex offender registry. I have no idea why, I had never randomly looked someone up like that before or since. There he was. Recently released after rapin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:32 AM
1

Having both smoked crack and fallen in love, I'd have to agree it feels pretty similar. A bad breakup can be like drug withdrawals as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:25 AM
3

incest porn is one of the top searched genres across the board
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:47 PM
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So you simply don't understand what rape is, then. I suggest you learn quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:47 PM
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I'm not talking about erotica, I'm talking about the actual sex you are having
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:46 PM
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I've been a bartender for over 12 years and I beg to differ. A vast majority of men I've had to throw out for creepy behavior are attractive men who don't accept a rejection. I'd say upwards of 80% of the guys getting complaints are hot, aggressive men. Almost all the unattractive guys and women I've had to throw out are legit crazy or very, very drunk. Unattractive men rarely have the entitlement to continue bothering a woman after she tells him to fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:45 PM
3

Do you think a lot of men are indulging in cuckold or incest sex in real life, or want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:38 PM
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Do you think consensual rough sex is comparable to rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:36 PM
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Cuckold and incest porn is incredibly common with male audiences. What do you think that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:32 PM
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I don't hate men, I hate narcissists and whiners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:43 PM
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Creeps are men that won't take no for an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 07:01 PM
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Right, because these guys don't think second place is good enough for them. Because they're narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:52 PM
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Have for 17 years
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:40 PM
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How much of a narcissist do you have to be to believe that if you can't get the best of the best that you're a victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 06:20 PM
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I think it changes a bit when they are in their 30s and men don't care as much, but I haven't talked about sex a lot with women who are 30+, so I can only guess. Sex is undeniably better in your thirties, in my experience. Men in their thirties are way above and beyond men in their twenties in skill, basically across the board. I slept with a man in his thirties for the first time when I was about 23 years old and never went back to younger men. Sex has only gotten better for me as I select olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:53 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 03:48 PM
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false. men have been more desperate since the dawn of time and always will be. That's why dating seems imbalanced
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 02:11 AM
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Almost everyone gets a partner. There is no conspiracy against men. If you're going to choose to be upset by the fact that men are more desperate then I guess you'll be mad until you die
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:45 AM
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Should we implement a policy in which women can only date men you deem appropriate for her so you're feelings don't get hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 12:18 AM
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There isn't a solution and there shouldn't be. Dating isn't fair, and people shouldn't expect it to be. Dating hot chicks isn't a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 11:44 PM
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No one cares
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:27 PM
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Calling you a whiner is not whining. I don't need to blame others for my problems. Only weak people do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:05 PM
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Fine. Just don't be upset when you're labeled a whiner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:45 PM
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just two sides of the loser coin. People who complain that there are no good men/ women left or that the game is rigged against them are just sore losers trying to blame others for their failures, and the rest of us lose nothing of value by these people giving up. The whining is annoying as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:44 PM
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Almost everyone ends up partnered. This kind of thread always devolves into men whining that they don't get casual sex on demand from super hot women like Chad does. Average amounts of sex with average partners isn't good enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:33 PM
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If you truly have absolutely no love life with zero women interested in you, you are not average
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:05 PM
5

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:54 PM
2

Seems like something to address within yourself. It's not always personal. There are a million reasons why someone might not want to commit to you that actually have nothing to do with you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:11 PM
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Some porn is demeaning. Sometimes it's demeaning for men, sometimes for women. A porno that one person finds disguising and demeaning will be someone else's perfect cup of tea. Sometimes it's not demeaning or exploitive at all. It's too large and varied an industry to make sweeping generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:06 PM
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I have before and theoretically would again. I think it's interesting that you assume you can't have respect for someone if you have casual sex with them. I wanted casual sex, they wanted casual sex, we had casual sex. Simple as that. Not wanting a committed relationship with someone doesn't mean I find them fundamentally unworthy or undeserving of respect
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:04 PM
2

Ya! Everyone knows that earning more money than a man is abusive duh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:57 PM
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Cool people tend to seem at ease with other people and exude a certain kind of "not giving a fuck". When a person shows the world that they're secure with themselves, others often feel secure around them. Similarly how seeing a person embarrass themselves makes you feel embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 08:47 AM
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Maybe don't be boring if you want your partner to be excited about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:40 AM
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She does. She goes after all kinds of guys. they're just usually not interested
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:35 AM
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My friend has dated a few fugly slim dudes, but men generally aren't interested in her at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:34 AM
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No one's saying he should shut up. Just pointing out that he very clearly gives a shit about the thing he's claiming to not give a shit about. No one cares if you or anyone gives up on dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 07:33 AM
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The thing is, the SMV 3s and 4s seem to prefer being alone rather than assortatively mating. As I've mentioned here before, my closest friend is an unattractive, obese lady. It's not that she doesn't find fat men attractive, because she often does, but she explained to me the mechanical difficulty of two fat people actually having sex and how it took the fun and pleasure out of it. That's something I honestly hadn't considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:07 AM
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If that were the case, he would have nothing to rage against. He would quietly go his own way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:00 AM
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and yet statistics show us that men with high partner counts marry women with high partner counts. Go figure
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:18 AM
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guys with high n counts usually end up with women with high n counts. Three "lonely, regretful slut" is a TRP revenge fantasy, not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 12:03 AM
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https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/ it's a slim majority, but a majority none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:25 PM
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not my opinion, just facts. Most children of single mothers are conceived in marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:08 PM
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Female birth control was tested by releasing it to the masses. Women are more likely to be willing to tolerate potentially serious side effects because they have more at stake in an accidental pregnancy. So far, vasalgel has had a hard time finding men willing to risk side effects to test it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 11:05 PM
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you lack a nuanced view on single motherhood. It isn't always "woops didn't mean to get you pregnant byeeee".Often couples facing an unplanned pregnancy try to make it work and later break up. Most single mothers are divorced from their children's father. Most men who don't live in the home with their children opt for no custody and to pay child support instead. Some go to court and gain custody. Many have split custody. It's rarely some guy just running off when he learns his woman is pregnant.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:58 PM
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I'm sorry but that's the dumbest argument against male bc that I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:45 PM
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Some of them, probably. What kind of question is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:42 PM
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I think I read that it was designed to be easily reversible, but that test subjects had unforeseen difficulty and some ended up permanently sterile. I think that's one of the main reasons it's been delayed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:39 PM
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Birth control fails, you know. Plenty of people who take precautions still end up with an unwanted pregnancy. Two partners on BC is better than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 10:38 PM
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Damaged, low quality women tend to go for damaged, douchey guys. I don't think partying really translates well into this. Plenty of high quality men and women go through a party phase, I think that's pretty normal. I partied hard for a few years and never dated any douchebags or abusive men. I know plenty of high quality men who like to party or used to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:53 PM
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Betas don't care, which is yet another reason they make superior partners
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:26 PM
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It's tricky because it's a nuanced issue and we have a significant amount of users here who don't think in a nuanced way. Looks do matter, obviously. They don't matter nearly as much as incels and looksists believe, but good luck convincing them of that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:14 PM
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I honestly thought you were playing dumb. I guess it's not an act. Hey, I'm not the one avoiding simple questions here. You know exactly where I'm going with this and you know I'm right. I know exactly where you're going because I quite accurately said as much 2 replies ago and even included an entertaining little anecdote. Duh. That doesn't mean I'm going to let you get away with asking stupid questions that don't parse logically. If you expect me or anyone else to take you seriously, take your…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:05 PM
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Already did. Not going to treat you like a baby no matter how hard you try. read the comments again.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:43 PM
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If you don't collect, neither do we
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 06:42 PM
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And you'll be collecting hers and mine until you die.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:47 AM
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Women (generally) don't work out to look bulky and buff. They work out to be lean and toned
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:22 AM
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When you account for online dating and other venues the odds of them being asked out become much higher, and they will probably have several guys to choose from Anecdotal, but my closest friend is unattractive and uses online dating. She gets a few guys in her inbox per week, but almost all of them ghost after a few messages and it very rarely results in a date. She gets about 4 dates a year. Messages usually don't translate into in person meetings on dating sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:49 AM
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Are you still crying about this? I'm not going to keep quoting your own commentary to you. Show me science to back up your claim or stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:29 AM
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Are we talking about social security or welfare benefits?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 07:28 AM
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The difference in payouts is almost exclusively because of children. There's not more money given to individual women vs men, but families vs individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:08 AM
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Good luck replacing male truck drivers, I'm sure you'll love those flexible working hours and warm office atmosphere... Oh wait, truck drivers don't work in the office. Good luck replacing women who raise the children
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:06 AM
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You made the claim, it's your responsibility to back it up. Because you won't, I'll go with my original assumption that you're pulling things straight out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:03 AM
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You know how I know that my boyfriend isn't after my money? Because in 7 years of dating he's never tried to take advantage of my money
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 10:14 PM
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Yes there is. It's called dating. We date people before marrying them/ moving in with them to vet them and get to know them on a deep level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 07:32 PM
1

if most people eventually won the lottery
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:10 PM
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Doing either of these without good reason is, in my opinion, a bit lame because it makes you look like youre trying hard to impress her. It also comes across as insincere. I'd much rather get a rare, genuine compliment than a constant stream of try-hard attempts at making me feel good. It's better when it's special.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:09 PM
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If you’re any level under topmost senior management, yes. If you’re a “key man”, You can still get away with it. This is what's changing right now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 04:31 PM
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. . unless you are too valuable to lose. This is what is starting to turn right now. Up until vey recently, powerful people were free to commit these actions and crimes without consequence. That era appears to be at the beginning of the end (we can hope). As much as I loved my grandfather, he was a pervert and a threat to women. I've never heard any accusations of serious sexual assault, but if some lady came forward all these years later with a convincing story, I would believe her based on his…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:09 AM
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He's had women interested in him and has dated before. He's a decent looking dude, super funny, very intelligent, and a great artist. I don't think it would be difficult for him to find women to date if he wanted. Shit, I would probably accept a date with him if I didn't know better/ was single. He has many women friends. I think he finds navigating the complex emotions of a romantic relationship too stressful. He explained to me that he loves the idea of a committed partnership, but when it com…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 05:06 AM
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I feel like my example got people off course from my original point. I'll try to use a better example. My grandfather openly grabbed his secretary's ass and chased women around and made lewd comments about their bodies. He had an open affair with a 19 year old beauty queen in his fifties. He was a vey well respected businessman/ politician until his death. If he had exhibited that behavior now, he'd get sacked on his first day and might even be arrested. Because times and attitudes have changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 03:36 AM
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You have a vey poor understanding of these issues. Even a majority of divorced men want to get married again. I can't debate in good faith with someone who is naive and gullible enough to believe that 70% of men are going to be mgtow in under ten years. It's like trying to have a political discussion with a third grader. Go your own way. Shoo. No one cares. The rest of us will be happily fucking, dating, and committing until humanity ceases to exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:32 AM
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You think humanity will up and abandon one of it's fundamental needs and instincts in less than ten years? You're either completely insane, delusional, or perhaps a very young and naive teenager. I know you want to feel normal. Everyone does. The fact is that a vast, vast majority of men do not and will never have any interest in such a lifestyle. It is something that will only ever appeal to the fringe lowest value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:17 AM
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Why wouldn't we laugh? You keep talking about it like it's a threat. No one cares. No one will ever care. You're just waiting for someone to say "no please don't go!". Never gonna happen. Stop talking about it and just do it already, sheesh. This desperation for validation is annoying as fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 02:06 AM
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Are you starting to understand why everyone laughs at mgtow?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:55 AM
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You didn't answer my question. Why would anyone care?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:51 AM
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so you decided to give up because you had some competition. How is that a loss for anyone other than you? Why should people be concerned with your personal choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:42 AM
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Are you under the impression that most single people use tinder to date and that it's therefore a logical metric in which to analyze dating in general? And I'm not trying to be mean, but if you're an adult and have been totally unable to find a partner, you are not average
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:33 AM
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There's no indication whatsoever that will be the case. The gap in decreasing marriages is filled with committed cohabitating couples. There have always been small number of men who choose to remain bachelors and men who have no chance with women. That is unlikely to change. Most people want partners and a vast majority find and commit to them. Whatever percentage choose not to will always be very small and no cause for alarm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 01:21 AM
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Does it matter? If my partner met me when I was an awkward, insecure, ugly duckling weirdo teenager he probably wouldn't have fallen in love with me. Lucky for me, we met when I was an attractive, successful, self assured woman. No one stays the same their whole lives. The "me" that you see today is every bit as authentic as the drastically different "me" from years and decades past. I hope and expect I will be a very different "me" in the future. If you're not constantly changing and improving,…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 07:17 PM
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I had a friend in the 1st Clinton White House r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:30 PM
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The same reason America was outraged by Clinton's sexual infidelity and no one gave a fuck about Kennedy's or Roosevelt's. Different generations have different attitudes towards deviant behavior. We are currently in an era in which people no longer tolerate sexual harassment or assault. If these stories had come to light even 15 years ago, they would have been swept under the rug like all the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:15 PM
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If that works for them, great. My parents have the strongest marriage I've ever seen, and they took a more egalitarian approach. Whatever mom said, dad enforced. Whatever dad said, mom enforced. They are an indivisible entity with equal say and equal power. That works for them. My partner lives in the home I own and pays half the mortgage. I have final say-so in manners directly concerning the home, but his concerns and opinions are always considered as an equal partner. We tend to agree on most…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 05:29 PM
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I don't get outraged by anyone's sex life. I get mad when rich/ powerful people are allowed to commit crimes with impunity ironically, you seem more upset than anyone I've seen on Reddit related to this subject
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 06:20 AM
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always happy to help!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:53 AM
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How do you think a Republican would respond if another Republican stole his or her wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 12:46 AM
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I can't imagine why you would think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:51 PM
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I don't understand how politics fit into personal relationships. What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:53 PM
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Hasn't changed anything for me, other than wanting to high five the men and women going public with their experiences. I love that Terry Crews filed a police report against his alleged attacker and that Rose McGowan is being so detailed in her accusations. It opens the door for people with less power to come forward, especially Crews. It's so powerful for a man who could kick several asses simultaneously to come forward this way. It really highlights the power imbalance issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:46 PM
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Studies prove that having a man doesn't make a woman any happier. General happiness is down for both men and women, and it would be ridiculously naive to blame that entirely on feminism and women's financial success. There are many factors at play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 04:15 AM
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All of your commentary is whining about not getting attention from women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:51 PM
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There were posts made about murder, rape, suicide, and assault every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:49 PM
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If you don't want one, why do you constantly whine about not having one? edit typo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:47 PM
1

Are any sacrifices unreasonable if the only alternative is apparently suicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 05:46 PM
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The incels are out of their cages
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 07:32 AM
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You can't argue science no matter how hard you try or how special you think you are. Nothing you bring up is going to disprove the functioning of the brain. Show me science or admit you're talking out of your ass in a desperate attempt to avoid responsibility for for your own beliefs, thoughts, and actions
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 10:45 PM
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I hate them, but I guess I see why some people like them. They always play the worst music and people there are very yelly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 07:57 AM
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Show me science that people have no free will or ability to form their own opinions and beliefs. I'll wait
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 05:42 AM
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Hey, I'm not the one avoiding simple questions here. You know exactly where I'm going with this and you know I'm right. A lot of people are raised in religious households and leave the religion in young adulthood. Why do they do that? Millions of children believe in Santa. Why don't many adults?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:34 AM
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I'll dumb it down for you. Were you raised in a religious household?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 01:19 AM
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It's very straightforward. Who formed your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:32 AM
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Who formed your worldview for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 12:00 AM
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You're pulling things straight out of your ass so you have something to get hysterical about and calling it subtext. No one is convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:59 PM
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Oh, so you read minds now? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:50 PM
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Ok, so you pulled it out of your ass to be dramatic. Calling something common is not negative, cupcake
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:34 PM
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So much projection and drama here. Where did anyone say that misinterpreting friendly interaction made someone a bad person? You were offended that I stated that this kind of misreading is very common. Again, your feelings don't matter here. It is common, whether or not you think it is or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:10 PM
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I wish I could say I find your lack of responsibility and total weak mindedness surprising, but it's about what I'd expect. It's amazing how many people let others think for them and choose to live as helpless victims. why do you think people abandon their childhood religion? Why do people who grow up in abusive homes sometimes grow into kind hearted people? Why do some people raised by racists become accepting of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:48 PM
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Once you become old enough to think for yourself, you and you alone are responsible for your beliefs and actions. I was probably about 12 years old when I started to seriously question the religion I was raised in, weren't you? Blaming "society" for your false beliefs and personal problem is an attempt to avoid taking responsibility and to dodge the work it takes to form your own beliefs and use critical thinking If an adult is on trial for assault, can he or she say "my parents told me violence…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:18 PM
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We're talking about messaging in childhood carried over into adulthood. Do you still believe in the Easter bunny?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:57 PM
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Why are they special that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:34 PM
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Because they don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:49 PM
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I haven't been to that sub in awhile, but I remember there were a lot of dudes on it. Also most of those people have partners, they just don't want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:48 PM
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We're not talking about children
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:43 PM
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everyone is free to express themselves, no one is free from criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:43 PM
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Oh yes, "Girls are so confusing! Sometimes they smile at you and then won't suck your dick!". Classic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:56 PM
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I just can't imagine thinking so little of myself as to believe I have no agency or responsibility and am just a helpless victim of society's messaging
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:54 PM
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I don't see anyone making that claim. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 04:53 PM
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Why should these people be exempt from criticism? Why are they special?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:38 AM
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Doesn't matter how you feel. Desperate men take friendliness as a sexual advance all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 08:33 AM
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stop trying to make everything about you. What she's describing is incredibly common
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:53 AM
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Who's saying it's a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:44 AM
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Read the commentary. That's exactly what he's claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:22 AM
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Same. I hate feeling pitied.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:10 AM
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The claim that sex is the only way to show you give a fuck about a person
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 07:06 AM
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You see how silly that sounds, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:47 AM
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Still, the claim is that unless women are giving a man sex or going out of their way to get him laid that they don't care about him at all? I feel sorry for jobless people. I'm not going to hire them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:20 AM
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So their friends can pity fuck them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:16 AM
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I'm guessing caring for=pity fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 06:13 AM
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The difference is that you take responsibility for your part in your life choices, while others consider themselves victims of brainwashing. I too have chosen the "slutty" career woman lifestyle (despite constant messaging and social pressure to marry young and have lots of babies) and it has worked out well for me. Even if it had lead to the doom and gloom promised by TRP, I would still be responsible for my choices and the consequences of those choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:13 AM
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You mean all that shit you literally just made up? Do you have a mode other than panicked, self pitying drama queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 05:10 AM
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Haha! Seriously dude? Not one example of me making any generalizations about men. Not one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:55 AM
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Nothing yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:08 AM
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"Needy" people generally lack the ability or willingness to meet their own needs and instead rely on others to do that, often demanding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 01:00 AM
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Sure you will, big guy. Dig deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:44 AM
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Care to provide any examples of anything I've said to back that up?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 12:16 AM
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So dramatic. Not having sex with someone is not a personal attack or akin to wishing ill will upon someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 11:36 PM
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Find one example of me saying anything even close to the contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 09:24 PM
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Some are just making excuses and passing blame onto others for their failures
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:01 PM
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And people still buy it because they've decided it's a reasonable investment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:00 PM
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autism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:37 PM
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You think Sharia curbs rape? You can't possibly be that naive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:34 PM
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Rapists are all kinds of people. Successful attractive men, crazy drug addicted hobos and everything ok between. Access to sex is definitely not the issue here. It's a violent act, not a sexual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:33 PM
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99.5% of people have sex. More people have access to sex than to actual human needs like clean water, enough food, shelter, and education. Most rapists aren't virgins, and I'm surprised anyone believes that. If you feel badly for rapists, why don't you have sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:30 PM
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Looks matter, just not nearly as much as incels believe. Men in particular can do well if they capitalize on their non physical assets like humor and charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 06:27 PM
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I despise how you people always go from "being a body builder" to "not putting in any work". There's never an in-between with you. Almost all men meet the basic standards for relationships. Are most men gorgeous body builders? If you can't meet the standard, perhaps the issue lies with you and not everyone else? You're basically insisting that women being entitled is 100% fine, This isn't a discussion about entitlement, it's a discussion about standards. You've said a lot, but you've still not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 05:40 PM
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Same principal, even though those are not free market. If colleges decided to charge 5 million bucks for tuition, no one would go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:45 PM
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That some men are unsuitable partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:44 PM
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So men are desperate and thirsty but don't want to put it the work to get what they want from women. That's your argument? Again, high standards are not an issue for women or most men. You're basically advocating for pity-fucking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:42 PM
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High standards are only an issue for people who can't meet the standard. Most men can. Should everyone lower their standards in an attempt to avoid hurting low value men's feelings? Women with no standards are easy. Are you trying to claim that men want easy women who take whatever man comes along? Dating is a market. There are winners and losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 07:25 AM
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everyone in Atlanta is fat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:53 AM
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i don't know. I'll answer for ya. Hardly any men do labor jobs and are skinny, the women are fat and ugly as they stand around walmart help desk or as receptionist. you realize that 70% of American men are overweight, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:52 AM
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Still doesn't really answer my original questions. If these women with high standards are getting what they want, why do you say their standards are "too high"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 04:51 AM
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Why would women compete for the average modern man who is fat and rife with negative behaviors? Factors like the obesity epidemic, addiction, and joblessness effect both men and women. Any evidence that "thirst is at an all time high"? TRP told me that men are purposefully avoiding women and commitment. Which is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 01:13 AM
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How many men here do you think are working hard labor?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:16 AM
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Saying someone's standards are "too high" is like saying a product is "too expensive". A product is only too expensive if no one is buying it. If I sell plain scarves for $500, but have a customer base willing to pay that much for them, then my product is reasonably priced. If a person has dating standards that seem high, but they are able to find partners who meet those standards, their standards are reasonable. I know very few women with high standards that are single. It might take them longe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:16 PM
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I'm generally busy and like to fill my time outside work with projects and time with friends. I take at least 90 minutes a day to turn off my phone and sit quietly with myself. During this time I don't interact with anyone, including my boyfriend. My boyfriend also likes to keep busy, so our time together is usually spent making art, walking, going to shows or museums, going out with friends, etc. We veg out in front of the tv once a week or less. I guess it depends on what you find relaxing. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:10 PM
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I don't think you understand basic biology or the concept of hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:21 PM
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No one's talking about morality. You don't need to use every thread to repeat your favorite rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:19 PM
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I'm amazed at your ability to comment on every thread without ever addressing the OP's post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:16 PM
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such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 10:14 PM
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Still higher than women. Prostitution has existed as long as human civilization has existed. Men have always been desperate, always will be
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 09:15 PM
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Stronger sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:59 PM
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Men are more desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:35 PM
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Black and white thinking when it comes to sexual relationships. Claiming to understand the dynamics of other people's sexual relationships. A good example of this is incels. Experienced people understand how nuanced these dynamics are and leave room for deviations to "the rules".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:01 PM
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TRP also says that I'll either settle for scraps or die alone because I'm over 30 with a high n count and no desire for children. They're wrong about a lot of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 06:40 PM
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I definitely have some dominant traits (quick decision making, outgoing nature, confidence, leadership, confrontation, direct communication style, etc). I'm not sure if that makes me "alpha", as I'm also very sensitive and nurturing and prefer a cooperative relationship rather than a power struggle. I've consistently found that beta dudes make the best partners for me. I tend to have better success with shyer, more reserved men. I could analyze that as a father figure thing, considering my dad i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 05:01 PM
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Na, alphas are shitty partners. Useful for sex but little else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 04:50 PM
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A bunch of dudes who whine about women's judgment of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:30 AM
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Have you ever been over to r/niceguys?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:14 AM
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Is it that they demand that men don't judge them, or find men who don't judge them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 03:04 AM
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That's not the matter at hand. You're simply trying to derail. To humor you, no. Women generally want mature partners and there's nothing hypocritical about that. Any functioning, quality adult would do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:39 AM
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What could possibly be relevant to you if lifestyle and maturity level are not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 02:35 AM
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You don't judge the lifestyles of people you consider dating? Yeesh. That's unwise at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:43 AM
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So you think that someone's sexual past is none of your business when you're considering them as a potential partner? Is anything about their lifestyle relevant to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 01:25 AM
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It doesn't sound like you're very confident in your choices if simply being described accurately is offensive to you. We're talking about dating. When selecting a partner, lifestyle and maturity level are up should be scrutinized. Any person of value judges potential partners on these things, as they well should.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:39 AM
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how else would you describe your lifestyle? What words wouldn't offend you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 12:22 AM
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No, because women have no right to define what men should do. Sure, I'm "immature" in that I like to sit around all day when I don't have to work, play video games, and generally goof off, but I don't see any benefit to acting "mature." So you are admittedly immature and it works for you. Why does it bother you to be called immature when that seems like an accurate description for you and the choices you've made?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:50 PM
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Would you agree that a successful, self assured man would choose an attractive, successful woman with a good personality over a turbo hot Stacy with a shit personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 07:58 PM
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I've casually dated and fucked alphas, but only consider betas for loving relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:37 PM
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It is. As much as it sucks to get punched in the face and lose a boyfriend, dying from alcoholism is much worse. I feel very sad for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:18 PM
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I'm sorry my small typo hurt your brain. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:16 PM
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Why don't you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 06:19 AM
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Once. I've shared a bit on here about my ex who developed a bad drinking problem after suffering a death of someone very close to him about 2 years into our relationship. I tried to get him help, but I was totally powerless and basically watched him rapidly destroy himself with alcohol. It was devastating, he is such a good man . In a black out, I took his car keys out of his hand when he was trying to drive to the store. He punched me in the face. I kicked him out that night and invited him bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 05:25 AM
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identical. you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 04:45 AM
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Are you really a twin? Me too!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:27 AM
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lol why would I waste my time and attention on a dummy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 01:20 AM
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It's highly subjective, I agree. If I have an existing friendly relationship with a coworker who then makes crude jokes, that's funny. If I don't know the guy, or if we're in a setting in which that type of humor is inappropriate, that's rude and maybe creepy. What separates creeps from regular men is largely social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 06:01 PM
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I expect men to be inappropriate and rude. That's just part of living in a community. Just because something is common doesn't mean these rude people are exempt from my negative judgment. If they choose to be creepy, they should be prepared to be called out as creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:52 PM
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I don't believe it's a right, it's just a general expectation of general social etiquette and decorum. If I ask a stranger what time it is and they refuse to tell me even though they have their phone in front of their face, my rights haven't been violated. They're just being an inconsiderate asshole. When a guy makes it obvious that he's checking me out and being weird about it, he's not violating my rights. He's just being a rude creep. It's only a violation if he crosses the line by touching o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:49 PM
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Context. If a big, tall, tough looking guy is walking quickly towards me on a dark sidewalk, I'll probably feel some fear and suspicion. If I see that same guy playing with some puppies, I'll probably feel warm and fuzzy. I generally treat all unknown men with some level of suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:45 PM
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Sexual advances in the workplace are inappropriate at best, especially when there's an imbalance of power. Whether or not it qualifies as harassment depends on context, history, circumstances, and the individual involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:41 PM
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No. There are plenty of people I find attractive that I do not want to objectify me. The guy who makes my coffee every morning is super hot, but I don't want him to hit on me or make comments about my body. I just want him to make my coffee. I have a few attractive colleagues. I don't want them to make advances, I just want to get the work done. I want to be a sexual object to men I'm having a sexual relationship with, that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 04:54 PM
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Do you consider confident women masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 05:21 AM
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Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 02:43 AM
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By seeing a person as a sexual object, not necessarily at the exclusion of all else
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:31 PM
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How did you reach the strange conclusion that to objectify someone means you have to completely disregard every other aspect of their being?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:15 PM
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I don't mind being objectified by someone I know and trust, like my boyfriend. I want the person I'm having sex with to see me as a sexual object, that makes me feel sexy. What grinds my gears is random dudes who openly and obviously ogle me and make comments about my body. That makes me feel gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:39 PM
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I just factor that in to my calorie allowance. I know I'll want cookies the week before my period, so I eat less leading up to that time to compensate. Easy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:52 PM
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Of course. And, to be honest, women only have as many rights as men choose to give them. Men will ALWAYS be in power. So, you're right that feminism needs to fight to maintain the status quo. But, that's not what feminism is doing. They are fighting to expand female supremacy. So are men superior or is there systematic female supremacy? If men gave us feminism, then they must be pretty happy with the results and want the them to continue and expand. Agree or disagree with their goals, you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:35 PM
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The challenges are very different, but the principal is the same. Racism didn't disappear because of the success of the civil rights movement, homophobia is still an issue even though gay marriage is legal, worker's rights still need to be fought for even after massive improvements to labor laws. If you diet to lose weight, are you off the hook once you reach your target weight, or are you required to put in effort to maintain those results?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 05:00 PM
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Have you looked into any sort of meditation practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:54 PM
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Why is self rating relevant at all? You can believe you're the hottest bitch who ever lived but it won't make any difference unless other people agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:37 PM
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Just an insult my brothers and I used when we were kids
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:55 PM
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Why should "we" make that choice? If a man is a miserable failure, he has options. He can try to improve, accept his circumstances and make the best of it, or kill himself. Who are we to tell him what is best for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:16 PM
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Do you consider raising children useless to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:12 PM
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Good for you. better to be alone forever than deal with that bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:10 PM
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I did that once. I kept a dead bedroom boyfriend around hoping it would "get better", silly me. Never again. Being single can be scary, but it really isn't that bad. I'd rather not be getting laid single than not be getting laid with a boyfriend. That constant feeling of rejection sucks ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:01 PM
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It hasn't had any negative effect on me or my relationships at all, despite TRPs doom and gloom warnings. STDs are something to consider, but I've always been safe and have never been infected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:54 PM
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I already have a high n count and give zero fucks about adding a few more.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:51 PM
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8? It's hard to be objective about oneself. 5 feet tall, 98-100 lbs, nice figure, olive toned skin, great hair, pretty face. I'd give my body a 9 and my face a 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:45 PM
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If I wasn't getting sex from my man at least 4 times a week, I would dump him
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:44 PM
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it's simple, not easy. I've never been overweight, but I have quit smoking which is the same general principal. It's a one step process: fucking stop. There's a reason 90% of people who try fail the first few times. Shit is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:42 PM
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eh, only temporarily. Once you get used to it, it takes zero thought or effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:40 PM
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Most Americans do. You don't have to be fat to have a shitty diet
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:00 PM
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The negative health effects of soy are vastly overrated. Just like with every other food, don't go too crazy and you'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:09 AM
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Shitty diets
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:44 AM
1

It depends on the man, obviously. I have more issues with men above 6' than men below 5'9, being that I'm under 5 feet tall myself. I was engaged to a guy who is 5'6. the tallest man I've dated was 6'3, shortest described himself as "5 foot nothing", but was probably 5'3ish
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:05 AM
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My point is that something doesn't need to be an accomplishment to be enjoyable or worth seeking out. Obviously I understand what an accomplishment is
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:57 AM
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is eating food an accomplishment? Not trying to be combative, just wondering how low we're setting the bar
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:57 PM
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Couldn't that be said about pretty much anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:33 PM
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Does something need to be difficult to be enjoyable? It's not an achievement to eat a delicious meal, enjoy great music, spend time with my dog, or read a life changing book. All those things make me feel happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:32 PM
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Men approach women during the day all the time. The gym, yoga class, the bank, the coffee shop, the bus, etc. All places I've been approached and asked for dates many, many times. Very common, in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:28 PM
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Are there actually any credible sources available on this theory? I'm not going to read a daily mail link. I ask because emotional attachment is not a quantifiable, finite resource that can be measured or "used up". My own experience tells me it's bullshit. I have a high n count and have had no issues committing in healthy long-term relationships at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 06:34 PM
1

Wishful thinking/coping
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:27 PM
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I never said that, its a common fact (readily acknowledged on this sub) that people lie on surveys and it would make sense from my experience that men especially would lie about being virgins(as its a survey they aren't going to get called out). Do you realize how off these numbers would have to be to disprove my point? Also the stats you gave are old and certainly do not point to 95% and are more concerned with when and not how many men lost their virginity. you're right. These statistics show …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:44 AM
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I have two female friends I know for sure have cheated on their partners. One is a stunningly beautiful writer who is fascinating, highly intelligent, accomplished, but a little crazy. She's wealthy and highly educated, tends to date in that league of fancy intellectual rich people. She and her ex husband cheated on each other a lot from what I understand. One of the guys she cheated with was a journalist, the other was a teacher . They were both sustained relationships lasting months/ years. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:59 AM
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so when stats challenge your victim complex, they must be falsified. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:35 AM
1

you found an example of me defending whiners, but you won't show me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 07:05 PM
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still no examples? plenty of posting history to go through. ill wait
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 06:38 PM
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You mean the part where you accused me of hypocrisy and were unable to show an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:49 PM
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This is purely anecdotal, but somewhat relevant. I have a friend who is asexual. She was born with pituitary and endocrine abnormalities that apparently effect her sex drive, and she claims to have never experienced sexual attraction or arousal. She's about 35 years old. This woman holds a PhD in the sciences, is an award winning baker, sews amazing clothes, and is a certified motorcycle mechanic. She's also currently writing a novel. Although she is obviously not average and is especially intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:15 PM
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A
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:10 PM
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The male sex drive is powerful and some men are too weak to control it. It's no surprise that some men like this who feel powerless in certain aspects (especially when it comes to their concept of manhood) might seek out high power positions like law enforcement. This behavior is not a reflection on "men", but rather weak people who are given great power over others
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:08 PM
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You're calling my a hypocrite for not going on unrelated, irrelevant rants and you're calling me obtuse? Lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:04 PM
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linked below
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:04 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/ According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the average age Americans lose their virginities (defined here as vaginal sexual intercourse) is 17.1 for both men and women. The CDC also reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males aged 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for both male and female virgins aged 25 to 29 and goes as low as 0.3 percent for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 05:03 PM
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Why would I bring up something off topic?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:43 AM
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Show me where I've been hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:42 AM
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I dislike derailing as an excuse to rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:42 PM
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I'm I missing them on this thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:47 PM
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I don't see any feminists whining here, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:35 PM
0

There is no increase in male virgins. Almost every adult is having sex. You're getting yourself worked up over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:27 PM
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You mean about my dislike for whiners and people who can't take criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:26 PM
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I don't see any posts or comments making that claim, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:12 PM
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Many are. Largely due to an increased availability of information on sexual education. Are you suggesting that men are oppressed because they are losing their virginity at a slightly older age than previous generations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:48 PM
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There is no increase in adult male virgins, young people are simply waiting until they are slightly older to have sex compared to the eighties/nineties/early two thousands. 99.5% of men have sex. There is no crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 09:18 PM
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My point still stands. Women face judgment whether or not they engage in premarital sex. No one is forced to choose one over the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:26 PM
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Why should MGTOW be exempt from criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:10 PM
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Barring sexual assault and rape, not one's forced to do anything. People face judgment if they engage in premarital sex or if they abstain. No one is protected from criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:09 PM
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Can you explain what's hypocritical here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:07 PM
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why do you care what other people think so much? Why the obsession with avoiding criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:57 PM
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Yes they do. That doesn't mean people should alter their behavior to avoid triggering sensitive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:40 PM
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I would argue that marrying vs. dating is a much more outwardly public affair, so people have a lot more pressure to prove their success by marrying a similarly successful person. But just because a man marries down or across, or a woman marries up, doesn't mean it's not a shitty marriage. No one's speculating on the quality of the unions, just the clear pattern in income matching. I would be far more interested in seeing which matchups have the highest chance of producing a long lasting, high s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 04:11 PM
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Go look at their subs. Do you consider encouraging suicide "emotional support"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:27 PM
2

Nice deflection
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:27 PM
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Ya they seem very happy and well adjusted /s
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 03:13 PM
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It's positive for everyone other than the weakest men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:28 PM
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There's no ambiguity. OP is a well known sexist who regularly makes posts and commentary trying to sound edgy for his sexist views and seeking validation from other men. My point is that no one gives a fuck. Be sexist. It only really effects you, no one else will care and no one else is harmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:27 PM
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Sleeping with someone out of pity is incredibly unkind.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 05:35 AM
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statistically, almost everyone dates in their general income bracket. Poor date and marry poor, middle class dates and marries middle class, rich dates as marries rich. There are outliers, but they are pretty rare
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:12 PM
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I have answered. Your opinion is irrelevant to women, so this is a pointless thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:08 PM
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There's no view to challenge. You're just seeking validation for your choices (once again). Why would any woman care that you don't care about them or their problems? Why do you think your opinion matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:39 PM
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Your "view" is just an attempt to justify childish shitty behavior. No one cares how you justify being a baby. If you really didn't give a fuck as much as you claim, you wouldn't constantly seek validation for your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:34 PM
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Self seeking perhaps, but most people aren't assholes (although we all have our moments)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:32 PM
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Neither men not women are particularly sympathetic when it comes to gender specific challenges with dating. I think reacting to that by deciding to be an antisocial d bag is very childish, but I would expect no more from Lewis. You state this almost like a threat "GIRLS DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR ME AND HOW HARD IT IS TO GET ONE TO TOUCH MY PEEPEE SO I'M GOING TO START SLAMMING DOORS IN THEIR FACES!" Cool dude. Go ahead. Women are losing nothing of value.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:29 PM
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You're free to be a self seeking asshole all you want. Just don't go whining when people do the same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 08:20 PM
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Human intimacy is a need that we all have, but no human is obligated to provide that intimacy to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:59 PM
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Men tend to date and marry within their general educational and income bracket. A well educated man might fuck the hot waitress, but he's going to commit to a woman more on "his level".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:58 PM
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so you agree that they don't beg for attention. Do you acknowledge that women spend a lot of time and energy avoiding male attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:44 PM
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Who says it's his identity? I call myself a vegetarian, that doesn't mean I want people to think of me as Sara The Vegetarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:50 AM
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Is it really that hard for you to accept that some people have no interest in romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:37 AM
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I know a dude like this, he has aspergers. The personal element of intimate relationships is too complex and overwhelming for him, so he sticks to casual arrangements. He explained to me that he "wants to want" a sustained romantic relationship, but he doesn't believe it's a realistic expectation. I'm sure he's not involved in any "pills", but he's about as far from red as I could imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 06:34 AM
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He got wealthy by being a sex symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 05:57 AM
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Your issue here is fundamental misunderstanding of what "entitled" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 11:16 PM
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I don't expect people to go out of their way for me, I simply only choose to surround myself with people who do. I'm not sure why this is so confusing to you. This is very basic stuff. I observe how people behave, make certain judgments, and choose how I interact with them based on my observations. No one owes it to me to behave how I want them to behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:40 PM
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lol, no. I judge people who wear cargo shorts. Does that mean I believe they owe it to me to wear more fashionable clothes? I judge people who enjoy the music of Macklemore. Does that mean they owe it to me to have better taste in music? I judge people for self seeking and antisocial behavior. Does that mean they owe it to me to behave in the way I want them to? We're only entitled to things we've paid for or rightfully earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:26 PM
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I do judge them. They are selfish and rude. Some people are like that, and we can't always avoid them. Part of living in a community is sometimes dealing with people and situations you'd rather not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:07 PM
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people don't become famous sex symbols simply because they're tall
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:00 PM
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Are all social expectations this confusing to you? If I go out to an expensive restaurant, I expect my server to be polite and kind to me. I'm entitled to that treatment because I paid for it. If I'm walking around outside and drop my cell phone without noticing, I don't expect someone to pick it up and return it to me, even though most people would. It's a nice and polite thing to do, not something that is owed to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:58 PM
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expectation suggests entitlement. No one's entitled to have the door held open for them, its just a nice thing to do and most people choose to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:50 PM
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Ben Affleck is a world famous sex symbol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:50 PM
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Most men who fancy themselves chivalrous are simply practicing normal social etiquette and want to feel special for it. Most people hold the door open for the person behind them. Most people practice a base level of grace and manners towards others. Most people help out when they can. I wouldn't say I "expect" politeness from others, but I do judge and avoid those to lack manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 08:47 PM
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weakness is literally defined by a lack of control. That's what weakness is. How does a small child react when they don't get their way?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:43 PM
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just because a face is composed, do not confuse that with the mind behind being devoid of emotion. Never suggested otherwise I only spoke of the outwardly detectable expressions of emotion in my OP. We feel as much as anybody, but we don't cry as much. One doesn't need to be a crybaby to be in touch with their emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 05:01 PM
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Some men stifle their emotions. I would imagine each individual has his reasons and experiences that lead him to make that choice. Men who are in touch with and in control of their emotions are not rare or hard to find. Men who shove their emotions down are easy to spot and avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:27 PM
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Controlling oneself and one's impulses is literally what separates children from adults. Being childlike is generally unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:16 PM
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Does a bowl of gruel make a hot meal obsolete to a starving person? VR porn and sexbots will be nice for people who cannot get laid, but I guarantee you all of them would prefer a willing human partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:15 PM
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huh. I would never seriously commit to someone without getting my family's opinion. Everyone I've ever dated has been the same. Most people vet their partners this way before committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:24 AM
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It's pretty normal to introduce your family to your girlfriend/ boyfriend. I've met all my partner's parents, haven't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 06:13 AM
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They might have fucked the waitress, but he never brought one home to mom
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 05:03 AM
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You really need it explained to you that lack of control is a sign of weakness? Is this a serious question?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 04:22 AM
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Every man I've seriously dated has only dated well- educated and career oriented women. Stats show us that people tend to date within their general educational and income bracket. I would imagine a man who does not prioritize higher education or career advancement probably wouldn't care much if his partner was similarly minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 10:54 PM
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maybe if you're a psychopath
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 09:02 PM
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paying an employee isn't "giving them money"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:56 PM
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because not having control of yourself and your temper is a sign of great weakness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 07:53 PM
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Kindly save your unhinged rants for relevant threads. This is a debate sub, not your diary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 03:07 AM
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what do the accomplishments of others have to do with dating at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 02:54 AM
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We're talking about dating. Why bring up the accomplishments of better men who came before you at all if not to make it personal? Your stance seems to be that modern women don't appreciate men and don't show enough gratitude. Why do you believe women should show you gratitude, and how should that be expressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 02:40 AM
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Oh I see. You feel you deserve a woman simply because you're a man. You want credit for the accomplishments of better men than yourself and believe that women owe you their gratitude because you exist. How's that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 12:01 AM
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You don't know what a straw man is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 11:58 PM
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I understand that people with your mind set feel very justified in their victim mentality. That's apparent to everyone. You're free to whine and lash out, the rest of us are free to criticize or ignore you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 10:08 PM
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And incels whine about not having 19 year old virgins worshipping their cocks. So what? A sense of entitlement in itself doesn't get anyone anything. I can believe with all my heart that I deserve the executive position at my workplace, but I'll only get it if other people agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 09:03 PM
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reading comprehension so on point that you can read one whole word of a sentence! Amazing!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:53 PM
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And how to women beg them for attention? You do realize that women spend a lot of time and energy actively avoiding male attention, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:48 PM
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LOL Really dude? Women beg on the streets for attention like men? Next you'll claim that you get cat called everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:36 PM
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You don't pay more taxes than me or work a more important job. Why should I be grateful to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:35 PM
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I guess you have a hard time with reading comprehension. I'm a musician.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 08:34 PM
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All that unhinged ranting just to agree with me, huh? You're right. Porn is not a substitute for relationships. Do you have any evidence that the fact that millenials are delaying marriage has anything to do with porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 07:57 PM
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Why should women be grateful for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:26 PM
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Men and women who complain that there are no good men/ women left are no good themselves People who complain that the dating system is rigged against them are sore losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:06 PM
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You ranted about why some men might not want a relationship, you didn't answer why most men do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:05 PM
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You say that as though people don't have a choice in how they choose to react to their circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 06:04 PM
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I'm both
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:03 PM
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If women were as desperate as men, they would be begging men in the streets for their time and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:02 PM
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Just say you don't want to answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:22 AM
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If that were true, men wouldn't be more desperate than women. And yet here we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 04:22 AM
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Pretty much all men watch porn and have friends, and yet a vast majority still seek out relationships with women. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:42 AM
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So you are of the opinion that sex, love, and loyalty are worthless and shouldn't be valued or pursued?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:36 AM
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What do women have to offer men? Non low quality women have the same things non low quality men have to offer. Sex, love, companionship, loyalty, and a partner to go through adult life with. Because that's all they can offer because they are locked in being the breadwinner that women are still demanding while they have their cake and eat it. As women want to have a career, kids, solid work life balance while the man must be the breadwinner and can't break free of that. Almost half of American ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 12:02 AM
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Women have no reason to keep a man around who isn't enhancing her life. People don't date for charity. Now that women earn their own living, a man has to offer something other than the most basic needs to be a viable option. Most men do just that. Only the lowest quality have literally nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:59 PM
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There's a higher divorce risk for men and women who've had more than 2 partners. That's basically everyone. You might be in the extreme minority with a very low n count, but most people participating in the dating marketplace far exceed that. You'll be better off in an extremely religious community.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:22 PM
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Only low quality men have nothing to offer women. In the past, they would have been given a wife just for existing, now they have to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:09 PM
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Ask your fellow incels why hookers aren't enough for them if you don't believe me. Pretty much all men watch porn and have friends, and yet a vast majority still seek out relationships with women. Why do you think that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 10:01 PM
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You can, but it's not the same. No one dies from a lack of sexual validation just like no one dies from a lack of friends. They are deep seated desires in every human. If friends were enough to make a man feel validated, why isn't that combined with porn or prostitutes enough for most?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:41 PM
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If that's the definition you're going with, I've been superior to 100% of my boyfriend's considering I prefer introverts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 09:14 PM
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Every person you meet considers thenself superior to you in some way. That's just a fact of life. I would argue that every person you meet legitimately is superior to you in some way. Even a child or someone with a severe disability is going to be better than me and you at something
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:34 PM
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A woman you've just begun dating ain't your family
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:10 PM
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Porn, masturbatory aids, and prostitutes will never be enough to make human intimacy obsolete, no matter how elaborate and advanced they become. They will be a fun and interesting outlet, nothing more. Humans crave validation and affection from other humans, for which there is no substitute. The only thing advanced porn will replace is regular porn. That said, bring on the VR porn. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 06:05 PM
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If she's lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 05:54 PM
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Modern men are struggling with the fact that a wife is no longer handed to them on a silver platter as a right. They're struggling with the fact that women no longer need a man as a matter of their very survival.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 05:52 PM
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Seriously. My boyfriend is better at chemistry and visual art than me. I'm a better biologist and musician than he is. My 5 year old nephew is better at braiding hair than me. I'm a better baker than my father. What does "better than" even mean??
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 05:48 PM
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Have you ever met a person who isn't better than you in some way?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 05:39 AM
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Believing that there's a grand conspiracy in an attempt to hide information from you is the very definition of paranoia
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 03:36 AM
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You're paranoid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 01:13 AM
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My boyfriend would probably be pretty bummed, and I would have to stop modeling. Other than that not much would change. I would still have the same career, the love of my friends and family, and my dog. The best things in my life would remain.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:51 PM
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Dude, every single woman here is telling you the same thing. All of us. I challenge you to make a thread on askwomen. You'll get the same answers every time. This is not a normal thing to ask a new partner. It's highly unusual and likely to be seen as a red flag. This is something you should trust the older and more experienced people about. You're setting yourself up for some very cringey situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 05:55 AM
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Right, but it's not exactly a normal scenario. You're right, it's better than normal. He lives with me in the home I own and I'm not responsible for him or any children financially. Add on to that the peace of mind knowing that either of us could walk out at any moment without the hassle of divorce and we still choose to stay. All the benefits, none of the drawbacks. All that dream living for a slut like me, who'da thought? If that's your argument, fine. "ALL WOMEN HAVE MORE OPTIONS THAN ALL MEN…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 05:02 AM
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considering you're not happily married, you don't really have a grasp on the "doom and gloom" that TRP describes. Happily partnered with my dream man for 7 years who would marry me tomorrow if I wished. You can try to paint that as failure, but it's exactly what I want and I'm very satisfied with my life. Of course every woman is going to say that.. no guy will let a girl know their judging them. However, if a guy hears rumor that a girl has slutted around, they will definitely judge, whether yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:54 AM
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and he could leave her tomorrow
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:48 AM
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Most women aren't most Stacies. I know you'd love if your looks exempted you from your actions, but they don't. Apparently they do, considering I've not experienced one iota of the doom and gloom promised to me by trp, despite apparently being post wall. Why do you believe this? No offense Because every single woman here confirms that n count was never a topic of discussion and therefore not a factor in their relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:47 AM
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Is this untrue? Anyone who spends their schooling years slutting around and getting drunk is not exactly a high quality mate. You can say I'm "sour graping" all you want. I don't care. It's not me committing to these women. People are as high quality as the partners they can successfully attract and keep. Most Stacies have their pick of quality men to choose from. You aren't committing to these women because they're committed to attractive men with high n counts. And your experiences being... yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:43 AM
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I'm just claiming women with higher n-counts are less attractive than women who don't have n-counts as high. There's plenty of deadbeat manginas out there willing to date high n-count women. deliberately ignoring the fact that any high quality man will have a high n count and also be more likely to commit to a woman with a high n count. Your theory is nothing more than sour grapes and a desperate desire to believe that Stacy will regret not settling down with a beta loser when she was still youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:17 AM
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The data also shows that lower n-count women lead to healthier, more stable marriages. You can sit here and pretend you're ultra Stacy 2.0, but it doesn't change what men are attracted to. No man wants a girl with a high n-count for a variety of reasons. Whether or not not they tell YOU that isn't really a concern here. I watch what men do, not what they say. Men are eager to commit to women with high n counts because fucking look around you. Do you really, truly believe that women with high cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:10 AM
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Good for you? We had this conversation before about half a year ago... there's a reason you didn't say yes. There is a reason, and it has nothing to do with my n count. You clearly deal with different men than the norm. You can have low value orbiters giving you commitment all you want, doesn't make you more attractive. Most men would never want to commit a high n-count woman. This is your revenge fantasy, not reality. High quality men tend to have high n counts. Statistically, men with high n c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 04:03 AM
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they aren't? It will definitely factor in whether or no they run away. No man who's known my number has ever dumped me, two have proposed. They don't ask because they think even non-promiscuous women would get offended. They don't WANT to commit to high n count women, they just find themselves in that situation. oh I see. They really really care, they just don't say anything. Or take any action. Or change their behavior in any way. Because that's how reasonable people behave when something matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:54 AM
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Because they're too scared to discover something they don't want to know. But not scared enough to run away when they learn about it. Obviously it didn't matter much to them. True. It's not exactly classy or smooth to ask "so, how many guys you've been with??". Cringe worthy. But men will try to probe the issue in different ways. It's not a non-issue, it's important to many men. And yet they never ask, and continue to commit to women with high n counts. Funny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:48 AM
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No one is saying that dudes don't care, we're saying they don't ask. Ever. As I said before, you're free to demand sexual history from your partners, just know that it's very abnormal to do that and will likely be taken as a red flag. Shits weird as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:15 AM
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He's one of the most insufferable whiners on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 03:13 AM
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You two are the biggest whiners on this sub. Figures the only person you'll listen to is an rage filled incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 01:47 AM
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Like many people have tried to tell you, ugly ain't your problem. Your problem is that you're a defeatist, negative whiner who doesn't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 01:41 AM
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Go ahead and become desperate and obsessed if you don't believe me. See how that works for you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 01:35 AM
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I'm not implying anything. I'm clearly stating that desperation is a huge turnoff
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 08:15 PM
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Notice that every single woman here saya that she's never been asked. You're free to ask for detailed histories of the women you fuck, just know that it's very abnormal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 07:36 PM
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So you feel brainwashed?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:36 PM
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And what makes you feel forced to participate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:24 PM
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Who is "society"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:18 PM
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Hard to lie when you are never asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:03 PM
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Women can be the scum of the earth, practically perfect angels, and everything in between. Men can be evil monsters, valiant selfless heros, and everything in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:53 PM
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Is it also none of your business what your boyfriend does with his dick? Yep. None of my business. The only thing that concerns me is his current STI status and what he does with his dick in the context of our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:49 PM
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Notice that every woman in this thread is saying that no man has asked. It is absolutely not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:47 PM
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What kind of relationships are you getting into where this is a normal topic of discussion? No man has ever asked me for a detailed sexual history beyond normal STD chats. Sexual history has only been discussed in the context of an already established relationship as a topic of minor interest. The only thing that would make me uncomfortable talking about it with a new partner would be just the general strangeness of being asked in the first place. I would consider that a red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:43 PM
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It depends on the type of guy he was and what issues he was having, if any. Mostly I would tell him that there's nothing less attractive than a guy who's number one goal is getting laid or getting a girlfriend. I would tell him to focus on himself and his goals, and become someone interesting who people want to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:20 PM
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If you feel the need to "defend it from haters", then you aren't very confident in it. Why so sensitive to criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:17 PM
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Show me where I've "changed definitions" of words. I might hate whiners, but I love watching terpers hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:28 AM
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So you think all men are whiners?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 06:19 AM
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Nah, not men. Just whiners. I'm very consistent, stalk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:59 AM
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Someone obsessed with getting pussy and sad that nothing is working. Only can be one kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:50 AM
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It doesn't sound like you're very confident in your beliefs. That's a personal problem. You shouldn't be so invested in outside validation
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:46 AM
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I don't need to assume
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:43 AM
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Says the guy who doesn't understand the difference between 'need' and 'want'
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:29 AM
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Changing the definition of words isn't an effective way to debate, fyi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:19 AM
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If it really works, why would that bother you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:18 AM
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you're still describing wanting something, not needing it. No one dies from being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:53 AM
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Right. And if you truly believe your ideology is correct, you won't be bothered by some people's disapproval of it. Millions of people think I'm going to burn in eternal hell fire for not accepting Jesus into my life. I don't give a fuck because I'm confident in my beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:33 AM
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Yes, and I totally disagree. No one needs a romantic partner. It's a luxury, not a necessity
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:31 AM
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You think you have to be paranoid and constantly seek approval in order to not be a dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:29 AM
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No one has one guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 04:28 AM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 11:38 PM
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What's up with reds' obsession with avoiding being criticized? Who cares what other people think?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 11:24 PM
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So you just want to be protected from criticism. Did these guys lose their livelihoods, or did their feelings just get hurt?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:30 PM
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No one's suggesting that. The fact is that movements require dedication, time, and a willingness to do the work. It seems like men are expecting feminism to do the work for them, which is not the purpose of the platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:28 PM
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You insinuated that men in universities are forced to support feminism, but you can't say how?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:21 PM
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Can you share examples of people being forced out if universities for not being feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:11 PM
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You can't have a successful movement without some women in support of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 08:10 PM
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No one is forced to support feminism. The movement is doing just fine without you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:45 PM
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Is it the rise of feminism that is the culprit, or the failure of men to keep up? Most of the whining about feminism I hear and read boils down to "what about the men??". Feminism is a women's movement. It prioritizes women. If men have issues they'd like to address and actions they'd like to take, feminism is not the platform for that to happen. Get your own platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:41 PM
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I don't know a single woman who doesn't have this happen regularly. I get cat called at least every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:00 PM
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where?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:57 PM
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My father told me not to go looking for the right man, but to focus on my goals and become a person other people want to be around and the right men will come to me. He was right, he always is
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:54 PM
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Are most women uncomfortable with prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:52 PM
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Keep living your little revenge fantasy. This won't change a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:30 AM
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lol you want women to feel threatened by this so badly and you're upset because no one gives a shit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:23 AM
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Why do you think it's appropriate for the writer to judge the morality of cheating in an analysis?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 03:05 AM
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Show me where the author was anything but neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:34 AM
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Dude this isn't an opinion piece, it's an analysis. It is not the writers goal or job to judge the morality of the act or decide what's right and wrong. Why on earth would you expect that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:24 AM
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Show me where it's positive or anything other than neutral
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:12 AM
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Why do incels think they're sex experts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:11 AM
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If you aren't getting enthusiastic sex from your partners, you're unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 02:02 AM
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to undesirables
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:56 AM
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Most men want wives. Even most divorced men want to remarry. If simple sexual release were enough, men would be satisfied with porn and prostitutes and wouldn't be begging for women's attention in the streets
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:51 AM
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It wouldn't be. And this is not. It's neutral.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:49 AM
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Why would an analysis be negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 01:46 AM
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I see an article trying to understand why women cheat. Is trying to understand something excusing it somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:47 AM
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You haven't read the law
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:37 AM
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how is this in any way excusing cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:22 AM
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It's an expensive, elaborate, and realistic masturbation aid. I just have to laugh at anyone who thinks this will cause any sort of mass exodus from human intimacy and sex. It's still a machine. Why do you think prostitutes aren't usually enough to satisfy a very lonely man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:21 AM
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I don't buy the "doom and gloom" predictions about sexbots. Plenty of people will buy them and plenty of people will use them. They will not make human intimacy obsolete. There's a reason most women don't run away with their vibrators and men who love porn still seek out women to fuck, date, and marry. They're a masturbation aid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:15 AM
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All studies that claim to have the answers on why X engages in Y negative behavior should be taken with a giant scoop of salt. People cheat for all kinds of reasons. It's impossible to pin it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 12:11 AM
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