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They remind me of a cult. They make no sense and if you try to point it out they become enraged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/25 01:01 PM
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Teaching someone to be good = teaching kindness, compassion, empathy, equality, generosity, etc etc. both genders need to be taught these things. It’s their job to educate, no social commentary. Can you maybe talk to other parents in the class and get them to back you up about how harmful this is? Maybe if all of you complain together it might make a difference?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 03:08 PM
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This is ridiculous, what country are you in? Did you talk to his parents about it? Can they complain to the school?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/25 02:52 PM
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Thanks for telling me about this movie, I wasn’t familiar with it. These are the kinds of story lines I think make more sense in the modern age. Promoting what we actually want to see reflected in society. I’m going to try to get my kids to watch this one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/25 11:59 PM
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Ok thank you, that’s a good idea
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 02:20 PM
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Wow thank you so much for articulating this so perfectly. I also learned a new word. :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 01:32 PM
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Do you think having male teachers would make a difference or would they end up harbouring the same biases because of societal messaging?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 01:20 PM
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Thank you for your detailed assessment • ⁠Modern western customs and laws have made family and intimacy undesirable and risky for men. Can you please expand on this? • ⁠Society’s pursuit of “equality” is not compatible with what men and women appear to want from each other. Women do not want to be with men who earn the same or less as them, and men do not want to be with women who earn more than them. Tide may be turning on this one https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/03/marrying-dow…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 11:27 PM
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True
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 04:18 PM
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Most people don’t see boys up close, Teacher do, however. They have a front row seat to what’s actually true and what’s actually going on
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 02:38 PM
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They are trying to revive and mainstream boomer culture, and they are directing it to low information voters who like easy answers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 02:35 PM
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Thanks for your reply and I agree. Others also noticed from a young age that I was not a “normal” girl and I knew it too. It took me 40 years to figure out why. I rarely went with the norm and often defied what society or my parents seemed to be asking me for. But I can’t help but notice that most people do follow the norm and unquestioningly so. It’s like they’re getting the message “you need to x” and their answer is “okay” where as I am going “why x, why not y? What comes after x? What are th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/25 01:21 PM
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Just a question, when you are walking around at night alone and you encounter another guy, does part of you worry he might hurt you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/25 12:12 PM
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I didn’t know about the “ick” until reading your post. I found this on the internet from psychology today: “…people with an inflated sense of self-importance and a need for admiration (i.e., grandiose narcissism) were likelier to experience the ick...Also, those with high perfectionism standards were more likely to experience the ick and experience it more frequently. If you have rigid expectations for a partner, you’re more prone to being turned off by minor imperfections.” This is basically wh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 08:06 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing all that. I do know a couple of women older than me who never found their guy despite looking very hard. They both have a plethora of supportive female friendships around them…but I know they are still both secretly sad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 07:53 PM
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Can you give me this evidence? The stats on abuse and also the ones that say something changed for millennials and younger?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 02:52 AM
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Yeah that’s actually conclusion too, the system only allows narcissists and psychopaths to succeed. That won’t be changed by pushing women to the top either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 02:19 AM
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Out group bias towards women means?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 02:16 AM
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There’s a lot of work that goes into raising good humans. I put a lot of effort into it, making sure they have a clear positive sense of self (noticing when they do something kind and pointing it out and praising them), but not everyone can be with their kids in that crucial 0-5 age. I know a friend who is in daycare and she tells me they are basically too busy changing diapers to even notice what is going on with what kid. Also I think most people think of themselves as “fine” and thus parent f…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 02:04 AM
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Ah yeah the debt to be paid stuff pisses me off. Some chick came at me in my other thread trying to tell me I needed to teach my boys that the world is handed to them on a platter by virtue of their gender and then tried to convince me that I am still trapped under the boot of oppression. How are these people not straight up being told they are nut jobs?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 09:16 PM
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I always thought that some guys get told by other guys that “having a girl” provides some kind of status or social proof of some kind. This comes from the idea that men are “supposed” to pursue women. Then you see guys going around asking out every single girl (at least that’s what I saw when I was younger). It’s seemed like they were more interested in having a girl (like she was a cool car) than being with someone they actually liked. Is this still a thing?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 09:12 PM
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“If you don’t have a partner you should be seeking out one. If you don’t have one, what’s wrong with you?” We can’t change entitled women (society will always have entitled people in it), but what we can do is try to change the perception that men need to seek a woman and that’s something wrong with them if they don’t have one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 08:14 PM
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Yeah that’s true
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 08:10 PM
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Okay so making that important again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:41 PM
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On your last point, do you think men also only value productivity and status and thus disproportionately prioritize pursuits relating to attain more of that? I think this may be true of men who end up pursuing jobs in upper management, as I can’t see how those who do that can maintain any kind of healthy life.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:40 PM
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Yeah that’s it, I want boys and men to understand that there are fulfilling relationships to be found outside romance. This will allow men to approach romance differently (from a place where all their needs are already fulfilled and they want a relationship not that they need one). Each gender needs to let go of “needing” each other for A,B,or C reason and that ultimately leads to healthier relationships forming.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:36 PM
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I think the crying thing is more about “hey you need to feel comfortable showing emotion and vulnerability to others without fear of ridicule”. Also in the past men were literally taught to never cry and that crying is what’s girls do not men…this was at a time where every man was expected to be war ready.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:31 PM
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I think it’s just more that he works 60 hours a week and maintaining what is essentially superficial relationships seems less important. Then again he is also ND and introverted so that may play into it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:24 PM
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Ok! And that is why I’m here. I know trying to get men to connect and socialize the way women do was probably not the way, I needed some male insight. Thanks
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:16 PM
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Right and I think you’re touching on something important here. We are largely still in a society where men are socialized to be ambitious and make money which means after working and spending time with family there’s really no time for anything else. This is actually one of the things I want to bust up. We need to reorient our society away from pursuits of money, power and status and more towards a life that is actually rewarding and meaningful. It involves convincing people they care too much a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 07:12 PM
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Thank you for this detailed response, it makes a lot of sense. And yes because I understand systems of abuse (I experienced it and studied it) i know that when you interpret something as abusive there is an instinct to “over-correct”. Once you break one system, you move to a new one…but if you don’t know what normal or healthy is then there’s a risk of moving to another harmful extreme. That’s why part of my plan is to propose a new way of talking about this that views systems as forming around …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 05:46 PM
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I see. I have a tight circle of close female friendships that I keep up with on the regular. My husband does not. I keep pushing him to go make new friends or call some existing ones and he’s like “why? I don’t feel like I need them. You’re my friend” My point to him is that if the boys don’t see him prioritizing male friendship they are gonna think it’s not important and it is! Also sometimes I feel like he just needs to talk to someone who shares similar experiences to him and will intuitively…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 05:28 PM
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Being afraid of “looking gay” I guess?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 05:07 PM
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Who is expecting that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 04:45 PM
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Yes I figured this was the main thing. Is there a way to de stigmatize it?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 04:44 PM
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Yeah I agree with this a lot. Growing up I faced lots of racism, bigotry, and sexism. And not the subtle kind this new crop of people seem to be continually complaining about. It wasn’t implicit, it was in my face. There was no micro aggression, it was actual aggression. If you can’t learn to persevere despite that you lose the chance to develop resilience and the honour to pave the way for others. Congrats on finding your way out of homelessness. I think as a society we should be promoting stor…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 02:14 PM
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This is interesting, I was rolling the idea in my mind about whether kids should ALL be learning self defence and whether that would make a difference.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 12:57 PM
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Because getting raped or murdered seemed worse and it’s incredibly common (I know a woman who was raped and another who was murdered by her jealous ex husband) and then when a guy who you suspect has never felt the fear the death in his life comes to complain about being “treated with suspicion” or worried about “false accusations”, it’s like “OH YEAH YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT BAD???” The threat of violence that you feel all the time as a woman seems worse than the threat of suspicion of being viole…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 12:50 PM
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I think our society has neglected it’s responsibility to protect its youngest and more vulnerable citizens. If I could have any faith in society I wouldn’t have to think about this so much.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/25 12:35 PM
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Yeah I know some people like the ease of stereotypes but I personally don’t think it’s best for optimal self actualization. I agree with point 3 too, but I don’t think there’s way around that. There’s always going to be some “men have some advantage” “women have some advantage” going on. What needs to end is this weird double standard over behaviours
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 10:57 PM
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I don’t live in America, so I accept reality may be different there. The extreme right there is hideous I agree research on women is behind, it needs to catch up. I chose my partner carefully and our household is 50/50. I don’t believe any aggression should be rewarded from anyone. The fact that you have to be aggressive to make it to the top is what bothers me more than what gender is doing it. Women at the top will keep themselves at the top while all the other women at the bottom, why would i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 10:46 PM
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I’m sorry, but this is exact take that I see online that I think is ridiculous. Men and women have equal rights. Women are oppressed how exactly? Men are handed the world on a platter how exactly? Are you basing this on narratives and assumptions? When will you agree that women are no longer oppressed?? What do you need to see in society to know that the fight is “over?” I am absolutely not oppressed, I took a job in a male dominated field and made MORE money than some of my male peers and have …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 08:42 PM
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Yeah I don’t agree with the stoicism part, I don’t think that is so much of a thing for women today. There is interest in a lot of different types of guys, but I think he understands the woman’s perspective. As much as men may not like having to be protector…that is the main way that men are different from woman. I have absolutely no chance of defending myself and if that’s what a man brings to the table, I can also bring things to the table that only a woman can bring. The genders were designed…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 07:31 PM
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I think what I’m seeing from the discussion here is that what is needed is the dismantling of all stereotypes, more neutral language around issues and especially around perpetrators and victims. I think the challenge here is around being able to call a victim a victim and a perp a perp without it turning into mysogony or misandry. It seems like a minefield so I’m trying to think of a neutral approach that would do justice to both genders would look like. I will say a big challenge is that women …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 07:25 PM
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Do you disagree? I have seen endless promoting of girlboss/leadership for women and pushing to aspire them to be all kinds of thing. Trying to get them into STEM etc. but no discourse around what boys should be aspiring to. If I’m wrong please let me know
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/04/25 07:18 PM
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You basically took the thoughts out of my head and wrote them down. I’ve been struggling to find the right people to help me with my project (I can’t do it on my own) because I feel like everyone has gone crazy and is accepting things that I think are insane (both sides). I think I’ve come to the right place to find those people, this is giving me hope. Thank you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/25 07:20 PM
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This is injustice. Thank you for sharing your story and this information with me, it’ll be helpful for me in what I’m planning and what I want to do. Sorry you went through that, it’s horrible
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/25 07:15 PM
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Thank you, I appreciate the compliment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/25 03:21 PM
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A lot of them aren’t developing intimate relationships with other men. They only feel comfortable doing it with women. Without a woman they have no emotional outlet, that makes them feel desperate for a girlfriend/wife. It’s not healthy to approach a relationship from a place of desperation. A woman who wants a child can go to a sperm bank and get pregnant. What does a single guy who wants a child supposed to do?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/25 03:20 PM
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I’m seeing a lot of different things right now, I know my boys have it better than most because I chose my partner well. But I see a bigger thing… a sick society that can maybe be turned around with some effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 07:13 PM
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Yup
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 02:33 PM
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Yes you said it better than I did. The boys are just reacting to a broken system. It appears there is something wrong with the boy but actually there is something wrong with the rest of us.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 08:19 AM
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The pendulum swings in one direction and then it swings in the other. The issue is that immature people who have no core values are driving all of this on both sides. Out in the real world, what percentage of people are really really into these extreme left and right positions? Do we know?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 08:11 AM
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10 years ago the older the woman got, the more she became the pursuer. Most of the men who wanted to settle down and were decent catches did. If you were a woman over 35 you were starting to look at divorced men or men with serious issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 07:50 AM
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Thanks!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 02:59 AM
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True. I always tell them “l love you no matter what”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 01:07 AM
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Yup I understand exactly your point. There is a larger system at play and the reason no one knows what to do is because they are studying the malfunctioning component too closely and not looking at the component within the overall system. They don’t understand the interplay between how kids develop, how they learn about what’s important (hint: it’s not what you tell them is important), how they develop a sense of self, and how they develop a sense of “normal”. In fact, even for an adult it is ea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/25 12:00 AM
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Well that makes two of us!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 11:51 PM
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Oh my god. I just looked up Duluth model and I am horrified. This can’t be real. Don’t the people who come up with these things consult with psychologists?????? Women are not only violent in self defence. Men are not violent because of some fake power called the patriarchy. Are people really relying on the judgement of the uneducated masses????????
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 11:50 PM
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Thanks. Yeah I know that success is unlikely, but it’s bothering me so much that I feel like I’d rather try and fail than not do anything. The problem is that people have become highly irrational and combative…I’m used to dealing with that. Was trained from birth…. Someone else mentioned I will probably be called a pick me girl and a traitor. I have been contemplating writing under a pen name just to protect my privacy and family. I don’t care about recognition, fame, money, or power. I’m only m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 11:35 PM
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Thanks for all that. I know that no one man can speak for all men. That’s why I need to see a variety of perspectives and experiences to understand the dynamics of what is happening and what to do about it. I think the most complicated part of the problem is to know what to do about it and we can’t get to that if we don’t explore all the potential root causes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 06:24 PM
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Thanks, I’ll check them out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 04:10 PM
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Why do you think it is more prominent in Canada and the UK? I actually discussing with my husband about where all of this came from and I thought it came from social media whereas he was saying it started with Justin Trudeau and his I’m a feminist with a gender balanced cabinet because it’s 2015. I tend to associate “affirmative action” historically more with the US, although I know Trudeau made a big deal about it too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 07:32 AM
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Thank you. Both me and my husband are doing our best. It’s not an easy time to raise boys.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 06:55 AM
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I mean the latter. The thing is as a woman, I have experienced legitimately horrible things at the hands of men. I’ve been stalked, threatened at my work place, received abuse when politely declining the advances of men, 2 attempted abductions, sexual harassment, I could go on. There were times I genuinely feared for my life and I’m to this day quite fearful being out alone at night, around men I don’t know, etc. If you’ve never had these types of experiences it’s hard to grasp the effect it has…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 06:52 AM
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To add to this, all of the “men’s problems are the result of patriarchy which is a system that was created by men to benefit men and therefore woman are powerless to help men- they need to ask the other dudes for help” is a BIG reason why it was so hard for me to even feel like I had any role in men’s problems, any responsibility, or could affect it in any way. I really don’t know who came up with this, but I find it so stupid. The western world doesn’t have a “collectivist mindset” so there was…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 11:26 PM
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I think politicians are preying on men (republicans) and scapegoating men (democrats) because they realized it was an easy way to win elections in a country where no one seems to care about policy. I’m really of a keep it simple approach. I myself can’t totally wrap my head around all the debate around intersectionality and “power structures” etc. it’s inaccessible to most people and worst of all the discussions are unproductive. Why are we even talking about this?? What I want to write will app…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 11:00 PM
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Thanks! That sounds like a good book, I’m going to look for it because I want to offer my sons something other than “I dunno, be a superhero?” I am a child of immigrants and my parents come from a collectivist culture. Getting exposed to that while growing up in a culture that prioritizes the individual gave me some perspective. We are in a system whether we know it or not. We are all interconnected, if you focus too much on the individual you become blind to what is happening to the system. If …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 10:43 PM
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Thank you, so many people are providing me so much good feedback in this post already. Social media has destroyed the fabric of our society in my opinion. I realized how I was funnelled into specific opinions and black and white thinking. I started actively searching for “both sides” of every debate because I don’t want to be told what I needed to think. I want to think for myself. In doing that I realized in horror how intolerant people have become to an idea different to their own, how they co…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 10:37 PM
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I agree with you. The way we talk about this issue and the specific words we use are important. I hate all the terminology that was developed and I see it as an impediment to progress. By talking about patriarchy we are talking about power, and I literally don’t care about power. It’s not important to me what gender is in power. What’s important is that person is good. I think the debate can be helped by talking about it in more neutral terminology. System A vs System B. I’m an engineer by trade…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 10:14 PM
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I probably should have explained that better in my inital post. For those people who want a family the balance of power is in women’s hands. At least the way I see it. Maybe this will be one of things I need more perspectives on in a dedicated conversation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 10:08 PM
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Thank you. I had generational trauma to unpack before I could be ready to be a mom. That journey taught me how easy it is to inadvertently hurt someone you love. What I was trying to say is that these “raise boys to be feminist” moms love their sons, they are just blind to what they are doing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 10:02 PM
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I’m from a demographic that is thought to be disempowered for multiple reasons (neurodivergent, disabled, female, visible minority, minority religion). I realized I have little power to advocate for certain things that affect me, but I might be able to have a profound affect on issues that don’t affect me by simply getting others who identify with me on some level to listen to me talk about something of which improving has no immediate benefit directly to me. I know exactly why I was so immune t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 09:50 PM
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Yup!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 09:37 PM
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Agree about your comment on need, I do want to explore more about why and how men get the message that being with a woman is important. Before I truly understand that it will be hard to figure out how to counteract that. Thanks for the link, I will check it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 06:59 PM
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Agree about your comment on need, I do want to explore more about why and how men get the message that being with a woman is important. Before I truly understand that it will be hard to figure out how to counteract that. Thanks for the link, I will check it out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 06:58 PM
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What I meant to say is, the way I see things right now, men are not always developing close intimate relationships with other men, even when they are capable and willing to do so with a woman. So boys/men with no friends, only male friends, and no female friends or partners are missing something important. This may lead to men entering into relationships JUST to get this need met. This makes them feel like they NEED a woman when they should be entering a relationship because they want to and fou…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 06:53 PM
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I have specific questions about men’s experiences, is it better for me to post them here to keep everything together and make sure everyone understands why I’m doing this? Or is it better to make each question an individual post so I get more feedback?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 06:12 PM
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Yes I agree, the people who need to listen the most are deaf. I was one of them until my husband opened my eyes. It wasn’t easy for him to open my eyes for many reasons and it took a long time for me to truly get it. This is because I had a wall of assumptions and bias to get over, and maybe also some character flaws that were hard to admit to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/03/25 06:08 PM
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