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Dog it’s over. It’s just not an emotional kind of “over” but a logical one.
/r/seduction24/04/26 04:16 AM
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She has OCD (real OCD) and “rejection sensitivity dysphoria” which sounds like some made up bullshit but her behavior sure matched the label. Also I’m fairly convinced she was autistic, but she denied it and hated when I said that (I didn’t say it as a putdown). The rejection sensitivity means she can’t handle criticism in the slightest, and she jumps immediately to the worst conclusion. My guess is that me getting mad when she probably didn’t understand why I was mad caused her to snap. Then sh…
/r/seduction23/04/26 09:41 PM
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Nah I’m not gonna call the police. She’ll get it to me. Look there are things that are unforgivable and there are things that can be forgiven but require that you demonstrate change. In a way, you’re right. I might’ve been a QB back in the day, but I always play the cheerleader with my girls. I can see the right path, and I’m a very patient man. But I’m old enough now that I have learned to accept that some people won’t take the best option, the happiest option, the smart option and it sucks. It…
/r/seduction23/04/26 09:23 PM
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The candles and the sparks: There were a lot of things that I had issues with but she refused to work on. We had a few fights in the past, which were because of something she did but the end result would be that I’m the asshole. I saw her point, I could have handled these better. But she definitely had her part and that would never get addressed. But that’s girls imo. They suck at real emotional labor. So I just make my peace with that because I don’t think I’m gonna find a girl that doesn’t do …
/r/seduction23/04/26 05:03 PM
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I just went through it with a breakup. Metaphorically speaking, it was like she put some candles beneath some curtains, I asked her to move them, but she refused. Well one day, I lit one and it accidentally set the curtains on fire, and then she freaked out that the house was burning down. We both grabbed fire extinguishers to put the fire out. But then she couldn’t be sad that the house burned down, so she started spreading the flames around because she needed her feelings to be validated. Then…
/r/seduction23/04/26 02:38 PM
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You may want to get your iron levels checked. I’m a guy but I’ve had two previous girlfriends whom had similar symptoms as yours and it turned out they were anemic. Huge turnaround once they got treated for it. I’m talking about a night and day difference. Of course that will be aided with some positive lifestyle changes. Fitness, hobbies, good sleep hygiene, a healthy diet over a sustained period of time. So much of our mindset comes from outside of our mind.
/r/RedPillWomen17/03/26 07:06 AM
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I lived there. Best advice: Take the train there. It’s easier to get around. South Beach sucks Coconut Grove is a fun laid back happy hour spot
/r/seduction11/03/26 04:56 PM
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I wish he was more encouraging of critical thinking among his audience. I don’t see him as a problem, but I also don’t really think he’s the guy that’s gonna shape my political views. Like he’s just the ultimate “dude you met at a bar that makes for good conversation”. I’m pretty solid at critical thinking. I have a healthy mistrust for new information until I look into it, but I’m not also looking to discover some secret conspiracy or confirm my biases. I’m not really prone to peer pressure, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:58 AM
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I mean why can’t you have all of that in one person? I swear y’all act like being responsible with your shit together is mutually exclusive from having a fun time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:48 AM
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That’s cause everyone’s trying to make it to that position in their life where they can settle down, but everything is dumb expensive and those goalposts move further and further away.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:45 AM
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I think that’s somewhat just do to their age. Maybe not, but when you’re in college in your early 20’s, life is all about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:42 AM
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It’s not inappropriate. It’s just that the most vocal people online are the most likely to prefer meeting their social needs online. It’s kind of an echochamber, kind of a post-pandemic general social stunting, then throw that into social media, youth, and dating apps; and suddenly you’ve got a dating crisis. That being said you can still meet people in person. Just be someone people like to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 04:41 AM
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One explanation is that women are more likely to leave a relationship than men, and lesbian relationships have twice the number of women. Plus the whole “Uhaul Lesbian” stereotype leading to poor vetting of potential partners. Another explanation is that many Lesbians have heterosexual first marriages and those divorces get counted in the statistics. I think there’s a little bit of truth to both.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:56 AM
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The answer was Kyiv
/r/seduction12/05/25 12:18 PM
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I’m under 6 foot, solid bit of pudge, don’t make 6 figures and I’ve never had trouble getting women. You can’t compensate for a lack of personality. So be an individual worth being around, be charming, exhibit some confidence, love yourself (in a non-narcissistic way), and just go make friends with people. Both men and women. Don’t think I’m not empathetic, it is hard to find a good person but the right special person is rare and they should be. I could go on about the minutiae of what I do but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:21 PM
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I was a part of this subreddit 10 years ago. I used it to take myself out of that awkward teenage state and into that young adult mindset. But even then it was all just simulation… but luckily girls were also learning to be women and how to figure out men, and girls are betting at the social game than dudes will ever be so lucky for me I’m a decent chap underneath it all. Well I’ve done a lot of things in those 10 years, I’ve built up a lot of skills, I’ve grown. But I’ve kind of just stopped gi…
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:29 AM
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Yes a big problem is in that in ages past, men and women had different domains that made them good mates. So men would compete with other men, and women would compete with other women. But now since women have fully integrated into the workforce (a traditionally male domain), men are now also forced to compete with women if they want a traditional relationship; i.e. playing the provider role. Women aren’t going to date a man who provides them with a lower quality of life and why should she? She …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:46 PM
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Yeah this forum is so funny to me because it’s like where the whole autism spectrum goes to battle for supremacy of being the most autistic of all the ‘tisms. Like I get it kinda. When I was inexperienced and lacked confidence, reading PUA books helped me fake it till I made it. The issue is that negging both kinda works but also is like the fastest fucking thing to ruin your chances. And the advice on how to do it from the PUA communities sucks so much ass. It kinda works because it’s fun bante…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 07:31 PM
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It’s still interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:02 PM
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It works if you’re funny and it’s more of a clever lighthearted tease. That, or you’re actually kinda right and you’re drawing a fair line. I think the problem is that most guys on these forums are emotional midgets with the charisma of a sea cucumber. You’re not tryna insult her. You’re tryna show you ain’t no simp that’s glazing her just to end up in her pants. It’s hard to specifically explain and I’m hungover rn, but like at the end of the day, women want to be with real partners who make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:54 PM
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What are you basing your argument on? Your own opinions? Look I’ll say that for some men and women your argument applies, but there’s enough counter examples that your generalization falls short. What’s your friend group like? How many girlfriends have you had? You come off like your colored by online depictions of others over actually associating with people in real life. You come off like a college aged male, and I will say that college tends to be the most narcissistic time of everyone’s live…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:59 AM
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Well it worked for me. But what really worked was a few other elements that I don’t see people really put nearly as much thought or effort into. Finding my angle/niche. It’s easy to be background noise when you follow a basic template. What differentiates you from others? The alternative to this is that you date people within your pocket, as it creates a more limited dating scene and forces you to get to know others better. You cannot compensate for a lack of personality. I don’t mean you have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:11 PM
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That’s good! But inheritances are one of those ultra specific things that come down to luck. It makes it hard to give advice to others on navigating life situations. Massive inheritances aren’t common, ya know? In your case, it sounds like you can support your half of the financial burden of a relationship. But for most people, who are 35, not in school or training, with only a part time job… they’re just a bum. No one wants to date a bum. I’m not hating btw. Your comment just comes off like a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:41 PM
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Why would you be proud of that lmao? You’re happy and good for you! But what about your situation can you derive pride from?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:32 PM
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Right. Reading it in a novel allows the reader to project the fantasy onto themselves in a safe environment. The novel being a curated view of a situation. Things don’t go wrong, or when they do, it works out in the end. Similarly it’s why people enjoy horror movies. You get the excitement and the fear, but when it’s over, you’re safe. But put someone in the same situation in real life? Of course, I’d argue that most issues occur due to our subpar communication standards. While there’s some shit…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:28 PM
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Bruh plenty of women want to be led. Just by a man who cares for them, who values their input, and makes them feel safe (among other things). They’re particular, but their are plenty of women who want a man to take charge and lead. Problem is that most red pill guys online have an unattractive personality and they don’t understand what healthy compromise looks like. They’re also the loudest ones. Romance exists but it’s up to you to make it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:15 PM
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A true alpha doesn’t need paragraphs. He asserts his frame by filling your screen with a wall of strong thick text. It makes the betas nervous to see such a display.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:37 PM
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The way you wrote it kinda came off as ambiguous. Like there’s only two shitty options available. My bad for misreading it then. Could also be that I’m used to reading this subreddit where the majority of the ambiguous answers are written by people who just do not understand sex and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:40 AM
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Nah see you gotta get your sex game up. I swear the only fucking people who seem to divide female mating choices like this are lonely dudes on social media. Like you can be both dudes for the same woman. You can be sexy, and strong, with a bit of an edge, and you can be safe and reliable and a solid long term partner. But you have to be valuable and you have to know you’re valuable, and you have to deliver. good. ass. sex. Treat that bitch like a sex toy. Don’t matter if she’s your wife, right n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:19 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:28 AM
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I didn’t say anything about intelligence. But you all are physically weaker than men. As a 40 year old women you are not gonna have anywhere near the strength of a young man. Considering that you can’t join the Army (in the US at least) after 35, regardless of sex, it’s a fucking dumb suggestion. This has nothing to do with the overall value of a woman or a man. But the day you start enrolling 40+ year old women into the military to serve on the front lines is the day you lose the war.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 01:28 AM
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Bro what good is a 40+ year old woman gonna do on the front lines? I can tell you’re not aware of this, but combat is an extraordinarily physical activity. Even with guns, it’s still an extraordinarily physical activity. Now I do think OP points out a flaw in modern society that should be addressed, and Ukraine likely will if they come out of this conflict, but Ukraine does not have the time for that right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:40 PM
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Good luck under martial law lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:35 PM
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It’s clickbait and outrage. It gets men and women engaged when some women posts some crazy ass opinion. Sane people ain’t posting this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:49 PM
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Bro I don’t know what you’re doing in your building but I grew up with it. I also had a family of 5 so I had it at home. Then I also worked in restaurants for a decade. What I will grant you is that it can take longer than two hours, but you’re not stuck in the kitchen for the entire time. Regardless of the timing of this stuff, the amount of work involved in housework is not nearly as much as people are implying here. Young children like toddlers, absolutely. But if you don’t have kids, or you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:30 PM
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Bro what? Like I can see the point about laundry sort of. But you’re not scrubbing the bathroom every day. The dishes are something you can divide up. Cooking is not a three hour task unless you’re slow cooking something. I say that because my dad was a firefighter who used to cook for the entire station and sometimes I would visit him when I was a kid, and that took him two hours at most. Now if you want to include dishes then it pops out to maybe like 2.5 hours at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 02:36 PM
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I mean charisma isn’t something you can’t do better, there’s just a ton of ways to be charismatic. But is entirely within your hands, it’s just up to you to figure it out in a way that works for you. Idk how old you are, but like honest to god, go watch a movie where some character you think is cool who gets the ladies and start mimicking his affectations. Better yet, go watch a movie/series that you like and you know the ladies like and start copying the affectations of the character they think…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:37 AM
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The definition of Charisma is “compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.” Charisma in practical terms is just how enjoyable/inspiring/rejuvenating/reassuring your vibe is to a particular person. Someone might find you charismatic, but another individual might find you boring. It’s a particular thing that can’t really be taught, but generally can you make them laugh, do you come off as confident, do you come off as secure, do you inspire them to engage with you furth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 09:13 PM
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Ehh just remember this sub self-selects for a certain kind of cynical mentality. For the traditional men, there are women who want that kind of relationship. But you also have to have your shit together. Just cause she has a career doesn’t mean she doesn’t want a happy family? She could still want to end up as a housewife. But she’d have to be stupid in this economy to cripple her own ability to be self-sufficient. My point is not really about traditional relationships dynamics though that’s wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:51 PM
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I’m aware. But I have higher standards. What people think about you is usually a projection of themselves, but the kind of relationships that you accept is a reflection of your self. I think I’ve grown out of this sub (and this site). Most of this site overcomplicates this stuff, and everyone is so insecure looking for some magic formula. They don’t accept themselves, they don’t see their own value, and because this site is so big they assume that these views are reflective of the world today. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:03 PM
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I agree, but I also think that’s a dangerous line of thinking. Sex is a need for men. It’s certainly a priority for men. But I’ve found among actualized men, sex is the bare minimum. They’re never going to marry a woman who believes that she only has to offer sex to secure a ring. There’s so many other qualities that inspire great men out there. Among the wonderful men and women that I’m friends with, they understand how much they have to offer beyond sex; and they date accordingly. It’s both se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:11 PM
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I am a man. It’s not against the rules for me to reply, but I like to preface with this to keep things transparent. To some extent, I think submission should be earned. Not so much that I would be stuck playing this game of constantly trying to justify why I deserve it, but rather that submission should deepen with trust and commitment. For wife material, merely being submissive doesn’t really cut it for me. I like a woman who is competent, able, and knowledgeable, where a natural chemistry exis…
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/24 06:50 AM
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Truth I’ve got two broad modes for interacting with the world. One of them is this bold extrovert, and I would fake this kind of rockstar personality. It worked when I was young but I didn’t know what to do with it because I was insecure and unsure of myself inside. I faked it because I didn’t know what I was doing. Then I kind of got my shit together, and I became more reserved. That worked for a time. But then life did a number on me these past few years, and now I feel a bit lost in myself. I…
/r/TheRedPill11/11/24 12:15 AM
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I’ve always found Cyndi Lauper had it right: Girls just wanna have fun If you’re fun and a source of security…
/r/MensRights05/10/24 01:03 AM
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So do you think there’s a distinction between sexy and attractive, or sexy and hot, etc? For your definition, are there other terms that describe physical appearance? Is sexy the manner of the physical appearance or do you use it to describe any one who is physically sexually attractive? I’m trying to understand how you’re defining things. For me while I define sexy as creating sexual desire, I more frequently use the word to describe someone who’s clearly going for that aura. I wouldn’t necessa…
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 02:34 PM
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I’ll preface this by saying I’m a man, however I do think I can contribute to this conversation. I’ll delete this if anyone disagrees. First, you have to think about how you define sexy. My view on it is that the essential element that makes someone sexy is sex-appeal. At the base level, if I find someone sexy, I’m saying that I would like to have sex with them (at least within the limited scope of the word). Now the kicker is with my own girlfriend, oftentimes I will feel desire for her at mome…
/r/RedPillWomen15/09/24 01:48 PM
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Thanks for the compliment! I think guys have to ask themselves what they really want out of life before they start using the tools here. If you don’t have a good idea of what you want then it’s easy to read a field report and internalize that persons goals as your own. It can be hard to separate the tools from their user, and that can lead to you incorporating behavior that actually pulls you away from what you want. For me, I had a rough upbringing with an unhappy family. What I want out of lif…
/r/TheRedPill07/08/24 07:28 PM
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I think you’re looking at it in too much of a binary fashion. Women want to secure the mate. If they want you, then they want to figure out what is going to satisfy you and how they can provide that. They’re not thinking “Oh man I fucked this guy too soon, I can’t be the nice girl and get married now!” She’s thinking about what you want, and how to lock you down. This is all contingent on her wanting you. I’ve been a pro-Dom in the kink scene for a decade now. So I’m kind of used to shit moving …
/r/TheRedPill05/08/24 01:27 AM
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This guy just sounds like he fails to see how his depression may have affected the relationship. I don’t know the relationship, but it’s very possible that he just made it a self-fulfilling prophecy. There’s a lot of good advice from the Red Pill. There’s also a lot of shitty advice that sounds good to vulnerable men who are going through a hard time with women. Two problems I’ve noticed with the Red Pill community and they’re kind of opposite: Is that oftentimes, when the community is confronte…
/r/TheRedPill01/08/24 08:11 PM
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Life isn’t fair. But self-improvement is often rewarding in more ways than you initially sought. I get your point but I don’t think turning self-improvement into a point of controversy within the gender divide is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:50 PM
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A few points: You brought up a lack of conservative women. Their appearance was not the subject. The point is that they are out there and they do exist. If we’re talking about appearances then you do kind of have a point, but it’s still mitigated by region (and culture). If you go to a city with a large conservative population (they do exist despite what Reddit thinks), you will find plenty of attractive conservative women. Culturally (in America at least) it helps if you’re “country” or “southe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:37 PM
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On social media sure. But in real life it really depends on where you live. I grew up in redneckville. Plenty of conservative women there. Now I live in a university town, and there they are a critically endangered species.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:04 PM
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5’8” Height is less important than you might think
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:18 AM
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Since I hear a lot of cynical pessimism from men on this sub, I just want to say the bars actually not that high for being attractive, you just have to be realistic with your standards. Even then if you put in a little bit of work, it actually goes a long way. In the long run, I’ve found the real problem isn’t attraction, it’s finding someone you’re compatible with. Dating is a shit show. Once you filter out for attraction, then you filter out the flakes and the ‘absolutely nots’, then you gotta…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:12 PM
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They can’t instantly reject you if you haven’t interacted with them; unless you’re on dating apps. Which personally I think more people should ditch the apps, I’ve had way more success in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:28 PM
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You can’t compensate for a lack of personality. I’m not saying you have a bad one, but it’s always the dude with loathsome personalities going on about how women only care about height, money, and looks. Everything you’re doing helps, but personality is what wins the girl in the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 05:26 PM
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I kinda feel like bad experiences on dating apps are self-selecting and I don’t think they reflect the majority of the market (but they do reflect a significant minority). I think there’s a larger amount of people who have used the apps only a few times compared to people who use the apps as their primary form of meeting potential mates. But at any point, the vast majority of users are people who can’t/won’t find a mate. Part of the reason for the former and the reason for the latter, is that on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:18 PM
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Yes you do have to approach women on the street. What makes you think dating apps are the default? You think this fad is going to overwrite hundreds of thousands of years of evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 01:44 PM
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Yeah it is conditional. Stop being a cunt ya knob. It’s the Gigachad shit that’s idiotic. Like yeah she wants a catch just like you want a babe. Trying to segregate men into the chads and the nonchads is pointless. Just go talk to a girl. It’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:48 AM
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Well good luck to you squirt. I’m sure you know all about what women love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:31 AM
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What are you on about with your brain-rotted drivel? Have you tried approaching women? Have you crashed, burned, and improved? I am absolutely not an internet gigachad but I’ve been a Dominant, professionally and casually for 10 years. I know I’ve been the center of many women’s fantasies and this is all to say, that you limit yourself when you talk like that. The fuck do you know about reality? There’s kind of a formula, there’s kind of a truth, but the map is not the territory. Go out and talk…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:28 AM
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Yeah that’s how most women think really. There’s a chance you get struck by a car when you go outside. Doesn’t mean you avoid going outside or think “Gosh it really is terrifying seeing all these cars going by!” I’ve been called a ton of dirty terrible names because I say I don’t really care that women are scared of being approached. I don’t care because the only people who make that argument are online. In real life women don’t want to be approached by a creep, which I’m not. I’m tactful, I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 08:01 PM
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I don’t agree in any practical sense. This is a very Reddit centered mindset. I do think there is a rising and notable minority of women who are paranoid about being approached, but it’s basically a mental illness so why would you want to date someone so neurotic? There’s a lot of women out there who are quite flattered by being approached, and a lot more than Reddit acts like there is. Everyone is confident that they don’t want to be approached until they meet a nice, charming, cute stranger an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:23 PM
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Lmao how’d they miss that. Guys overthink this shit. At this point I think the first step for inexperienced men is to go out there and just start talking to women. They’re gonna crash and burn a lot at first, but eventually they’ll learn and get better. I honestly don’t think any young dude should go asking for advice or get into strategy until they’ve at least done the first step of going out there and trying to approach. Who gives a shit what Reddit says about how it’s uncool to approach nowad…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 02:16 PM
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You know the meme with the hunky dude hitting on the office lady and she likes it, but when the ugly guy does it she calls Human Resources? It’s entirely true. It’s a little more complex than the meme, but every time you hear a woman saying she hates being hit on, she’s thinking of all the creeps who have made it a shitty experience. But when a guy does it right (a combination of being attractive and being pleasant), she isn’t thinking “Gosh I hate being hit on!” So just ignore them when they sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 07:16 PM
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No it’s not. Get out of your head.
/r/MensRights05/05/24 11:06 PM
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It’s posted on /r/MensRights so it’s presumably being contextualized as a male issue. Next there’s an overwhelming amount of comments on here that are complaining that only men are treated this way, or that this is a barbaric punishment that could happen to any guy out there. Bro he’s an evil fuckface. Call me a douche, pretentious, whatever the fuck you want to call me. But this isn’t a male rights issue. There isn’t a question of guilt. He definitely did it, and what he did was fucking evil. O…
/r/MensRights30/04/24 02:01 PM
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This guy clearly did it. Like absolutely. He destroyed this child’s life. If it was debatable, sure. If it was a more common sentence where the burden of proof might be diluted across all the cases, sure. But it’s not a common sentence and this fucker definitely did it. Fuck him.
/r/MensRights28/04/24 11:01 PM
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I mean it’s not exactly a common sentence, otherwise this wouldn’t make the news. This case is pretty shut and dry concerning whodunnit. This man raped a 14 year old child multiple times. He got away with it for so long because he threatened her and her family with violence if she reported him to the police. She got pregnant due to being raped, she had the child which was found to be his through DNA testing. Fuck him, clip his nuts off. In other circumstances I wouldn’t say it’s justified. If th…
/r/MensRights28/04/24 10:59 PM
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And if there was better maternity leave that would also encourage more people to start families. Maternity leave isn’t built upon the idea that is an advantage to the mother specifically, but the idea that it is an advantage to the team. It takes two people to make a baby, preferably babies should be happening in families, having better maternity leave means more resources the family can allocate towards more important things. I think a lot of men feel like it’s a bit unfair but frankly I see it…
/r/MensRights23/04/24 10:58 PM
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Lived experience? I deal with serious data and professional experts in my daily life. The ones worth a salt will tell you to treat the lived experience just as valuable as the experimental data. Your source might not be able to articulate it as well, but they’re usually the ones that are living compared to the scientists whom are studying it from afar. Their explanations are the combinations of a thousand different scenarios that your experiment doesn’t observe, but is a greater part of the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 02:26 AM
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I think your argument is against the internet in general, and the terminally online people you find on this subreddit. You also might be one of them, but I’m going to assume you’re not. There’s a lot of people out there. It’s easier to have an opinion than it is to understand what you have an opinion on. But people will talk like they are experts because there’s an even dumber person online who will argue with them about it. Then there’s you who doesn’t know much about the subject, and you hear …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 12:43 AM
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I bet you don’t have kids, and I bet you have never lived (as an adult) around a mother with young kids. FYI I don’t have kids. I’m a late 20’s male. I have roommates who just had kids, and the wife is a SAHM. Myself and the husband have different schedules, so I see a lot of what SAHM’s do. I also see what the dads do. It’s constant work. It’s comparable work. It’s probably what you’re expecting but I don’t think you get how all consuming it is when you first have a child. Then afterwards it’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 01:02 AM
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I mean I’ve got a pretty large circle of friends, we all get laid. I don’t know man, the only people I ever hear talk like this are people who aren’t getting any ass. Actually let me rephrase that, the only people I ever see post this shit online are people who aren’t getting any ass. The fastest turnoff for a girl is arguing about which gender has it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:10 AM
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Your whole post is whining bro. People who get laid just take the dating market how it is and they don’t really whine about how it’s so unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:20 AM
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Oh man you were in a frat and you’re an engineer and you’re still whining about dating inequality??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:48 PM
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I mean for one, nobody wants to date someone who sounds so bitter and mad about it. I’m a guy. I think in our own little worlds women and men are much the same. We relate to other humans differently between sexes, but I think categorically we want similar things in life. Happiness, a nice place to live, a decent income, a happy relationship, maybe some hobbies, getting to watch our favorite shows or play our favorite games. Men are also largely the dominant sex. They’re bigger, they’re the go ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:41 PM
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I think there’s a lot of young men who internalize the lazy one word replies they get on dating apps as them doing something wrong. That if they were rich or better looking or taller then they would be able to unlock the rest of her personality. But no it’s not like that. That’s who she is. Since this site is mostly Americans, just know that 55% of Americans read at the 6th grade level. 20% of the population is illiterate. Those one word answers might be all she’s got.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:29 PM
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Nah, it’s just subtle. Honestly it all pretty much goes the same as a guy expressing interest first. If a woman likes you she subtly makes herself available, the more she likes you the less subtle it gets. Their way of initiating is making themselves available. Eventually it might hit a certain point of her just straight up confessing, but honestly I’ve only ever had that happen when I wasn’t interested in dating her (but I was single). If I do like her, once I start getting the signals then I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:07 PM
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I mean Ukraine is still pretty chauvinistic, while Japans macho warrior culture got neutered after WWII.
/r/MensRights07/04/24 01:52 PM
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I’m confused about how you’re on a Red Pill Women sub but you wouldn’t date a Red Pilled Man?
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/24 03:00 AM
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So what’s your ideal mate then?
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/24 12:16 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 11:43 PM
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It kind of is tho. The solution is to stop comparing yourself, but judging by the existence of this subreddit and so many others, many people have trouble avoiding comparisons. Enough that it has statistical weight, something you can’t just wave away as requiring a change in perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:49 AM
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I’m a guy and I pretty much just date friends. I find that there’s a few things that work. This isn’t a strategy but I’m pretty sure this is why it works: You have to set boundaries on your own behavior (as in you put in x amount of effort into the level of relationship, deeper relationships, sexual relationships get more investment). If she wants more from you, then she needs to give more. It’s an equal exchange. You’ve got to love without expectations, unless expectations have been set. Don’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:41 PM
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Are you referring to me or them? This threads a year old and I haven’t reread it besides the parent comments. If you’re talking about them, then oh well… ¯_(ツ)_/¯ If you’re talking about me, I thought I was pretty respectful there.
/r/RedPillWomen29/02/24 02:49 AM
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While I get where you’re coming from, how did you read all that and miss my point? You paraphrased me and then projected a situation you experienced onto mine. I don’t appreciate the tone, especially when you missed the point. I’m not a stranger to hard work. Hell I don’t even mind doing more than my partner, because sometimes I can have unfairly high expectations for myself and that’s not fair to expect that of my partner. I’m not interested in having another mother or someone that I can use as…
/r/RedPillWomen27/02/24 03:31 PM
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Micromanaging your partner and denigrating their contributions is almost always going to cause problems in any level of relationship. I used to train dogs. I’m not comparing partners to dogs, but I learned some broad lessons about how animals act and what motivates them and what discourages them. We’re animals and in broad ways this applies to us too. Essentially, people want to feel good, about themselves, about what they’re doing, about pretty much everything. Animals respond really well to po…
/r/RedPillWives12/02/24 06:05 PM
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So I’ve got several close friends that are in the BDSM community, a lot of them being in formal D/s relationships. The ones who are the most successful, with happy long term partnerships, are the ones who understand that it is a partnership. That each person brings something to the table, that each person is a stakeholder in the relationship, and that each has a right to deciding the direction the ship takes. I’ve found it ironic how flexible and accommodating the Dominants are, even when they h…
/r/RedPillWives12/02/24 05:39 PM
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I'm going to put this first (again), and I don't say it with condescension: I ultimately believe that you all need to end things and you both need to get your shit together and go learn how to be quality humans. Because no quality person will want to be with either of you, if this is how you have learned to act in a relationship. That being said, you're not hopeless nor defeated and it's not too late for you. But if you want to find a quality partner, they're not going to want any part in the ro…
/r/RedPillWives27/01/24 07:25 PM
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Your relationship, regardless of being weird, does not sound healthy. I’m not talking about what you enjoy in the bedroom, I’m talking about how you seem to fundamentally interact with each other. I’m talking about how you see him. I’m talking about your history. I am more than willing to bet that, despite the fetish, he doesn’t feel secure with you on some level. If it wasn’t you banging other men, it was the fact that you ran off on him, got engaged, and then came crawling back when it didn’t …
/r/RedPillWives27/01/24 04:03 PM
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*Leave him, work on yourself, then go find somebody.
/r/RedPillWives27/01/24 10:41 AM
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That kind of response is why people are calling you a narcissist. It’s not a simple matter. You seem to ignore how your behavior affects his. You seem to ignore how your behavior could make him feel (I guarantee you he doesn’t enjoy that you’re not satisfied by him, he doesn’t enjoy that you’re fickle and disloyal because he can’t satisfy you, and he doesn’t enjoy this constant chase hoping to eventually catch the woman that used to love him). You’re not kind to him, and you are playing with his…
/r/RedPillWives27/01/24 10:36 AM
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Go do something that makes you feel alive. Not a chore to maintain your life. Go live. Sounds like you’re writing a resume. Mind you I’m not knocking you. I’ve been in a similar boat. Solid looks, solid career, and just kind of felt a bit disconnected. I’d try out different personalities (all natural, but just different versions of me). Nothing. No girls. Felt like I did what I was supposed to. I felt like I was dying in slow motion. I started getting girls when I started doing fun shit. I don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 07:05 AM
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That’s more of a stretch. If they’re at the same stage, or have similar interests, it’s as good of a chance as any. If she’s tryna party and he’s tryna find a wife, ehhhh likely to fail. Age ends up being the least important thing next to goals, values, interests, and general compatibility. Once you graduate college everyone kind of ends up in the same boat: adulthood. I’m not accusing you of this, but this particularly subreddit seems to overcomplicate dating like it’s going to make them better…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:50 AM
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Everything on this subreddit is pretty much only a thing online, but it’s fun to watch young people wage a gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:43 AM
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Just remember your boyfriend is 25 too. He’s pretty darn young himself, and it might seem like he’s much wiser and knowledgeable but he’s still a spring chicken with a lot to learn; for whatever level he is at. So be careful about assuming he knows more than you. Popular videos and social media will only ever give you a shallow “bar talk” perspective. It’s rare to find the deep discourse on these platforms (part of the reason I’m on here. I rarely post because it’s not my space, but I felt like …
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 07:43 AM
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I don’t know if the mods will allow this, but I am a man (older than your boyfriend). I think something you’ve got to understand is that the underlying tenets of the RP ideology are valid, but the way those are disseminated, via YouTubers and such, are often meant to appeal to a certain kind of man who’s looking for validation for the situations he’s dealt with. The popular videos paint things in very broad and general strokes at best, and at worst, are just plain wrong. First off, you’re not ol…
/r/RedPillWomen28/12/23 07:13 AM
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I understand that. But it borders on Narcissism… venting is fine, recognizing your own value is fine, but obsessing over yourself to the point at which you look down on others is not. I think you’re just venting but you have a strange way of going about it. I’ll just say that a high value man that is willing to be with you long term will care about two things: your looks and your personality. Yes, men do care about their wife’s personality, or at least the good one’s do. Sounds like you have loo…
/r/RedPillWomen12/12/23 04:15 AM
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I’m going to play devil’s advocate here and suggest his friend isn’t the problem. I think the most direct point to make is that you need to hone in on your specific issue (which it sounds like you’ve done), and have a conversation with your man about that. It sounds like everything is going well for every person in this story besides how much you have to deal with when your husband goes away. Someone else suggested getting a nanny/helper when he’s not around… do you think that would solve all or…
/r/RedPillWomen24/11/23 03:29 PM
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Thank you for this. I’m a man but I’m on this subreddit because it gives me insight, and I find the discussions to be… empowering? Might not be the right word, but healthy, wholesome, and realistic without the baggage many other “sociology” subs have. That being said I suspect that I might have some level and form of autism and this breakdown gives me some context. I’ve never done any research into autism because I get by just fine, but I sometimes I do have trouble explaining how I think and wh…
/r/RedPillWomen17/11/23 02:50 PM
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I consider the cutoff point an undergraduate degree or the age around where you get one. University doesn’t really operate like real life. Once you get out into the world, you get a better grasp on social dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 03:58 PM
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This sub is filled with college students learning that dating is hard. This is one of those things where the vast majority of older adults say “You’ve got time! You’ll figure it out!”. Guess what? Most people do. I think we’re going to see a delay in people figuring it out, but not significantly (people used to figure it out after high school, but since the bachelor’s degree is the new high school diploma, I think you’ll see people start to figure it out after they graduate). There’s also the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:01 PM
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I wouldn’t say a man is interested in you just because of your age. He’s interested in you because of your looks. He marries you because you add value to his life, and it’s pretty hard to add value to someone’s life on looks alone. When a man sees a beautiful woman he thinks she’s beautiful. He doesn’t think she’s young and that’s why she’s beautiful. So don’t take it like he’s approaching you because you’re young. That being said I’m neither condemning nor condoning age gaps but I think this pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:03 PM
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Not always but there has been that kind of trend lately. I was around the fetish scene for awhile, met a lot of cross dressers who were the exact opposite in real life. Like super manly, chauvinistic, dick-swinging asshole types who liked to dress up in woman’s lingerie and take it up the butt. For them it was taboo, I think they were so hyper masculine in real life that the most taboo thing for them to do would be feminine. Obviously as straight men, they have a sexual attraction to the feminin…
/r/RedPillWomen16/10/23 05:48 AM
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That study uses a lot of loaded language. Honestly it’s a fucking garbage study. One big problem it seems is that it makes conclusions from the position that researchers have the “correct” way to measure attractiveness. It also makes a point to say that the study was part of a larger study, and that the experiment was not designed to answer the questions they asked/presented in the report. Which is a huge oversight. They are making conclusions about what the participants responses mean and state…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:44 AM
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I’ve used the wayback machine to find some old stuff on Reddit. I might have to try it out on this subreddit.
/r/TheRedPill10/10/23 01:57 PM
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Well it’s funny if he does, because the Red Pill can’t shake the association to outsiders that he’s the face of the movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:23 PM
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Nah I’m always swinging on this subreddit. Half of the people on here have bad takes, and I simply don’t have the patience to explain in detail the background of my views. It’s okay to disagree, and it’s also okay for someone to tell you to fuck off. Just laugh at their foolishness, and move on. I like these conversations in person, because you can usually have a fair discussion about things. I like engaging with the moderate crowd online. But everyone else is just determined to prove you wrong …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:22 PM
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Oh I totally agree with the hard-wired biology. But I think what the Red Pill community at large fails to understand is that this doesn’t account for 100% of mating behavior. We’re not rational beings, and we’re prone to contradictory irrational behavior. It’s more like 80% of behavior, and then due to modern life and the sheer volume of the population, you’ll be exposed to a lot of shit that doesn’t have a “book” strategy. It’s better to develop your own personal natural game than live by the “…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:06 PM
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I’m not thinking about “average” woman here. They’re not goals. Getting laid stopped being a problem for me a long time ago. It’s finding the woman that I want to build with that’s a challenge. I go after woman that I find romantically inspiring, I go after muse’s, I go after “catch’s”. To some extent, the Red Pill could say I’m putting them on a pedestal, and I agree to the extent that I am, but at the same damn time, I am quite confident I’m a catch myself and I know how to leverage that (I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:55 PM
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I mean I tell them. Fuck off with your horseshit. I learned the hard way when I was 21 and told a woman I don’t date fat and stupid woman like her. That’s when I discovered tact, kindness, and graceful exits. My logic at the time was that those are dealbreakers for me, but I should give her a chance if she was willing to improve. FYI she was fat, but her Tinder photos didn’t show that. Then she proceeded to brag about how she only dated her high school boyfriend because he would let her cheat of…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:22 AM
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Oh fuck off
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:21 AM
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That’s the internet for you right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:37 AM
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Well your second point definitely isn’t true, but I’m glad things are working out for you 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:42 AM
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It’s not though, and it never has? You can shoot through the windows, but you’re not gonna pierce the foundations. Yeah parts of it are laughably bad, and parts of it on spot on. I’m not gonna accuse you of failing to grasp the truth or anything like that, but disregarding it whole sale is just as fallacious as buying it hook, line, and sinker. But what do I know? I’m just another part of the endless internet choir. I’m sure you’ve got your reasons for your beliefs, as I’ve got mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:36 AM
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Fundamentally what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:26 AM
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For real. I keep my fingers in the sociology subs like this out of an interest, but honestly, I spend more time laughing at the bad opinions then I do learning from anybody. I’m too old for this shit now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:22 AM
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I wouldn’t say the Red Pill hated women. The terminally online Red Pill hates women. The actual Red Pill loves women, which is why they spend so much time coming up with a strategy to land the right one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:19 AM
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Okay sure. Have you tried just, idk, just hanging out with a woman? Stay in your lane, have some high standards, work on yourself, all this shit stops being important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:03 AM
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The Red Pill sucks because the most famous member is a walking PR disaster, Andrew Tate. If he was actually as successful as he makes himself out to be, he wouldn't have moved to Romania, where the laws are less strict and the women are more desperate. Fuck anybody who says they don't read books. 55% of Americans read at the 6th grade level, and 20% can't read at all. Now go take a look at our society... The Blue Pill doesn't exist, it's literally just a criticism of the Red Pill. The Red Pill h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:02 PM
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No, it's not, you fucking dolt. If you put it like that you're never gonna get it. It's why they are okay to fuck them, and there's actually a lot more to it than a 6-pack, 6-figures, and 6 feet. It's an art form. What are you trying to scrape from the bottom of the barrel here? No you want someone who is fucking rare, and rare people know their value and they're definitely not gonna get with someone who's first thought is treating them like they're some sort of automaton that lacks personal age…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:56 PM
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Idk what you're trying to say. The Red Pill offers solutions but it doesn't offer solutions for becoming an emotionally well-adjusted person that anyone wants to date. It's filled with tons of bitter men, reeling from the failure of their last relationship. Waiting for them, you've got vile shitheads like Tate, who completely destroy the validity within the movement because people immediately think of him when they think of it at all. Cause no one actually sits there and reads the books and pars…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:50 PM
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I have found otherwise when it comes to Blue Pillers. It was developed as a satirical criticism of the Red Pill, and like a game of telephone tag, the signal fidelity of the relevant information is pretty poor. They don’t seem to stand for anything but to disagree with the Red Pill. I’ve found Purple Pillers are pretty reasonable. Which is how I would categorize myself. I find that there’s truth to the Red Pill but there’s also many good counterarguments, and the best path to follow is one of mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:07 PM
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The longer I stay on this sub, the more I’m convinced most of you lack any sort of real critical thinking skills. That, or you’re in undergrad. Both blue pillers and red pillers seem to talk past each other, convinced the other side has nothing valuable to say. I wrote out a long response and then deleted it. Look the Red Pill has a point, but it’s been co-opted by grifters and bitter or inexperienced men. The Blue Pill also has a point… no woman wants to date a man who’s a domineering emotional…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:00 PM
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I think every woman does inherently. I will say safety is somewhat material, but the material element is not something that scales with an excessive amount of wealth. There's a bar for entry and then you're golden. I think providing sexually is a really important element too that not a whole lot of people talk about, maybe for fear of being seen as shallow? Happy couples fuck. Happy couples have great sex lives. I don't know any couples that are absolutely in love with each other whom have bad s…
/r/RedPillWomen07/10/23 12:31 AM
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I’m a guy replying here. I wouldn’t say they test them more unless you’ve turned into loser… and failure and setbacks aren’t what makes a loser. In a relationship, I think it’s best summed as being an unnecessary burden. Believe it or not, despite the differences between the sexes, we’re all pretty logical beings. A woman doesn’t want to see the man she’s chosen to hitch her wagon to fail. Nobody has time for stupid tests after marriage. This is provided you marry the right woman of course. When…
/r/RedPillWomen06/10/23 11:23 PM
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Generally yes I would agree but I think the last point bears some extra consideration, concerning how high value men can scoop up a low value woman but a high value woman will never get with a low value man. The inverse happens, not universally, but enough. A guy spends his 20’s being low value, finally makes it when he hits his 30’s… a lot of these guys just got access to the women they always wanted but were never able to get. He’s gonna go for the cutest prettiest girls who are going to outco…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:06 AM
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Honestly I think the best kind of guy to date is one who's post-Red Pill. That's not like a common term or anything, it's just the point of view a mature, discerning man will arrive to. If anything from a desire to rid himself of the baggage that the movement carries. The Red Pill is filled with people who have no clue how to have a successful relationship looking to learn in one of the only spaces that promises practical results, bitter men who were deeply wounded in their previous relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:15 AM
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I'm more of a purple piller myself, I would say that the game isn't fair in different ways for both men and women. They traditionally have advantages in the area the other gender is disadvantaged. Men traditionally have had far more of an advantage in a professional setting, and women learned how to use soft influence to have the advantage in a relationship. If a man gets married and he wants to have sex and he's not a brute, he's gonna go about making his wife happy. Men are providers and it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:49 AM
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Warning this is a little long but... The point of the Red Pill is that it isn't women can be manipulative, but it's that women are manipulative. All of them. It's just so widespread, so normalized, and such an intrinsic part of women's biological programming, that it's not something that is even acknowledged. I do not say this to imply that women are evil or that they are bad, that's something individual and personal resulting from your behavior. But it is a fact of life. For example, women by a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:15 AM
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Yeah idk why I got downvoted. I'm right. But good for you! Just get back on the wagon when you do. It's not a race and an absolute, it's a trend. Just do a little bit better for a little bit longer, and you'll get there.
/r/MarriedRedPill03/10/23 08:34 PM
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How do you have your TDEE set? Idk how long you’ve been running your caloric deficit, but -5000 calories/wk is approaching crash diet levels and is likely going to be hard to sustain for the 8 months you want to do it. I lost 70 lbs in about the same amount of time at about -500 cal/day, with crash days of -800 (I was also 20 when I did). There’s something to be said about psychological toughness and self-discipline, but your brain will straight up betray you if you’re not getting proper nutrien…
/r/MarriedRedPill03/10/23 02:43 PM
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Wat? They’re doing pretty good for themselves nowadays. The real issue is that the current economic system has destroyed families, but it’s inconvenient to blame women, since it’s a symbol of masculinity to bed as many women as possible. So if you’re not slanging and banging then you’re a failure. And in this system it’s okay to shit on the failures. Mind you, it’s not entirely women’s fault; much less the woman you’re probably into at the moment. As humans, both genders are mutually responsible…
/r/MensRights01/10/23 09:20 PM
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Slow down there Chief. You can disagree without being crass about it.
/r/MensRights28/09/23 04:58 AM
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I would suggest finding out more of why he likes it and what he likes about it. That’s not to indulge in it, but if you understand the general things he likes about it, then you can incorporate the more general “themes” into something you’re more comfortable with. It might not be a threesome, but something about the threesome that makes him feel a certain way (and that he potentially feels like he can only get that feeling from a threesome). Whatever that about is that causes that feeling, could…
/r/RedPillWomen17/09/23 08:50 PM
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That’s still nihilistic. It’s in our DNA to procreate. I totally think it’s fair to have a critique on gender dynamics but I think accepting MGTOW’s position entirely is just as destructive as the issue it’s trying to fix.
/r/MensRights15/09/23 09:19 PM
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I think “forgetting about women” is doomed to fail because we’re a social species, with a sex drive, and women are literally the other half of our species. Sure we can bring homosexual men into the conversation, but homosexual men are not the reason MGTOW is a thing. People who just opt out of the sexual/romantic component are nuts to me. I’m not saying the reasons for doing so, and the awareness towards modern society that these movements bring are incorrect, but opting out feels like a step ba…
/r/MensRights15/09/23 08:50 PM
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Honestly guys, the solution is to get a hobby. As a guy, you’re going to date and across and down in your income bracket. That’s fine cause there’s hot poor women and hot rich women. The point is that economic success is out the window as a sure shot to attractiveness. The height thing only matters if you’re boring and you’re whole personality is your career. It helps if you’re tall, but if you’re not, you’re not doomed to die a virgin. Dick size don’t matter but knowing how to use it does. Quit…
/r/MensRights15/09/23 02:52 PM
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How’d you all meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:13 AM
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Hardly. But they definitely don't love as fast men do, and it's forever a game that men trail on learning the rules. Men and women see it differently. Women write the rules as to what makes a man worth loving. This sub doesn't really get it right most of the time (women want a slightly less Red Pill man that doesn't sound like a Red Pill guy. They will stay with this man.). No point in listening to the men on what makes a man worth loving. The issue comes with what you're chasing. The better you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:05 AM
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I wasn't trying to debunk anything nor was I claiming that I was? The Red Pill is a loose movement with a general set of principles that most RP believers see as universally true. However most of the time contradictions are just downright handwaved away or glossed over. There's never an attempt to explain how the contradictions fit the model. It's either flat out dismissed, or someone gives a weak rebuttal because apparently, it's obvious how the contradictions are not actually contradictions so…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:48 PM
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Sex is easier for women, so they don't value it as much. However, there's much power in being able to decide for yourself. So personal achievement, independent security, and basic self interest drive them. I cannot tell a women that is something that is not worth pursuing. That drives men as well. It's more of an aspect of human nature really. Men by their biology are more intensely driven by sex. We've been able to get this by following a certain life path. Nowadays, we face competition not onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:44 AM
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I always wonder what the Red Pill theory for someone like my friend? He's a tall reasonably attractive man. Not fit, but he's not fat and he's attractive. Apparently very good in bed. He's well-cultured and quite intelligent. He's fun and entertaining and he's a fantastic host where everybody likes to come over and hang out. Lots of party games, and themed cooking nights. A pretty great guy. Dresses pretty sharply. Also a master manipulator. But he's kind of a drifter. He's down to stay in one p…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:08 AM
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I think we might be agreeing on some points and disagreeing on others lol. One of my main criticisms with TRP, PUA, r/seduction, is that it’s filled with grifters. They make their money off of single men looking to find their dream girl. Your dream girl isn’t a ONS or a couple of dates, but a lot of guys don’t get that. So they’re at once told the solution to their loneliness is to start having these ONS or short dating flings. Which feels great, but it’s junk food really. You don’t tell them it…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:15 AM
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I mean I learned a lot from it. It does work, when you're a socially inept 18 year old from a toxic family with no examples of how to be attractive to women. Now I'm doing pretty decent for myself, with a lot more experience with woman. I have a lot of concern about the raw misogyny I see nowadays, and how that can shape a young mans mind, but I think it empowers a lot of young men to achieve what seems like a complete mystery to them. I don't hate women and I respect their boundaries, and I've …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:45 AM
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I’ve had my practice. These theories came about because if I had adopted the red pill absolutely I would have a lot less success than I’ve had.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:57 AM
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I’m a man, I understand your concern. But you found a mate, so what advice would you pass on? You’ve seen the way men on here talk… are you okay with your daughter hearing that and internalizing that? Kind of seems fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:20 AM
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Okay, but it sounds like you didn’t really take in my main post. This isn’t an easy question. You’ve seen the way men on here talk. Is this something you would like your potential daughter to believe about herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:18 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:15 AM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:07 AM
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This whole thing you just posted
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:02 AM
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Okay so if you had a daughter what would you tell her?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:02 AM
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There’s raw guidelines that are useful, that are often cloaked in misogyny. Remember the podcasters and authors have something to monetarily gain from keeping men engaged. The men are engaged by getting fed an opiate that soothes the sorrow they’re feeling. This is their profession, do you think their going to cut off their money source when they have a daughter? This is how they provide for her. They’re willing to say whatever the fuck they want to keep that money rolling in.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:02 AM
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That only gets you so far!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:57 AM
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Are you a man or a woman? Which are you most concerned about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:57 AM
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Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:56 AM
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I don’t think I’ll ever be able to articulate the number of circumstances that can be provided as a counterargument. I don’t believe every argument is a 50:50 compromise. I believe that the nuance of a relationship demands you compromise as necessary demanded by the health of the relationship. Common goals. The advice that you have the final say is only applicable if you’re only absolutely in tuned with your partners “energy”. I don’t think that’s good advice to provide on this forum. I think me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:56 AM
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Would you say this to your daughter?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:47 AM
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Right. I don’t disagree. My point in creating this post was actually less to do with how you would approach this in real life, and more directed at the overwhelming language that I’ve found to be hostile to the situations that men and women and deal with. It seems paradoxical to me that you speak with such negativity about the opposite gender of your own, when that’s the very gender you wish to find a mate in. It’s never attractive to express such hate, and it’s demoralizing to hear. Their are v…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:20 AM
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Generally, I agree with you here. My point about Red Pillers assuming they’re addressing their daughters isn’t really about how it’s done in practice. My belief is that one should seek to avoid hypocrisy. I believe there is a middle ground. I don’t have kids right now, because I’m more focused on my own development. But I think there’s a way to get what the red pill teaches, and if you think critically about it, excuse the misogyny. Basically, there’s a more holistic evolution of this thought. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:54 PM
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Neither; nor did I assume that? I don’t have anything against women, nor do I think that they shouldn’t have standards. I’m just against unreasonable standards. I believe that hypergamy is a thing, and it applies to both men and women. You want the best mate possible. So if you break down what makes somebody the best mate (which is individual to each person), you can compare where they stand against others. There’s the statistics, and you can break down so many abstract qualities into numerical …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:31 PM
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I don’t know her standards. But I do know statistics. That means for every 1 guy she swipes on, that’s 399 men who have been rejected. It’s unsustainable if every woman adopted that attitude. I get that men need to compete for mates, but that’s not something a man can reasonably be expected to achieve. Stanford, MIT, Harvard all have acceptance rates of 4%. The top 1 percent of earners in the US varies from a yearly income of $400k to $1M depending on the state, and she is still more selective t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 02:07 PM
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Fair and changed. But it doesn’t change the point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 12:32 PM
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Okay so what do you want? In that, what is your responsibility to control and what is their responsibility to control? Lastly, is that enough? She gave us context, and I judge the hell out of that women. Her naivete is insulting. That's a "I found bedrock and then started digging" lack of self awareness. I'm a purple pill type of guy mind you. No one is 0.0025% special unless you're a celebrity or rich rich. That's her standards, and it's completely unattainable. I don't see most women as being …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:43 AM
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Just get a whip
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:15 AM
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The scale of those two things are different mate. One is friction and a stupid argument. One is questioning whether or not the child you brought into the world is actually your child. You have got to see the difference. If you’re at the point where you need to ask for a DNA test at birth then you should have considered whether or not you should have had a child in the first place with her. If you keep following this philosophy you’re never gonna be happy and you’re just gonna end up being parano…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:17 AM
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Trust is something the young guys on here haven’t grown enough to appreciate. It’s what they really want, or most of them probably do. Because it goes both ways. My point of view is that if I ever was gonna ask for my kid to get a paternity test at birth, there was another question I should have asked myself some time longer than 9 months before that, which is “Do I want to have a kid with this woman?” So I do ask that, so I don’t have to ask the other one. But these guys are young, they live in…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 02:12 AM
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Do you care? If you do, what’s the point of personal achievement when you’ll stop caring? Why is that where you feel you should stop? Look money and power are always gonna be the world strongest aphrodisiac. Luckily, you don’t have to compete on a global scale. You have to compete on a local average. You should really do it for yourself and not for a mate. It’s a paradox, but it seems like one of the least attractive things you can do is care about being attractive to women. That should be a pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 12:17 AM
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Lol I’m on a dating hiatus. I’m really busy nowadays. I’ve got a few girls I date infrequently, but I’ve been stuck doing crazy hours on a work project, but next month my schedule should open up considerably. I also put on a small beer gut during the quarantine. I didn’t stop being active, but I want my 6 pack back before I start wife hunting. Probably will have it knocked out in 2-3 months. Practice what I preach and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:58 PM
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I’m an engineer in one of the best labs in the country. I’m handy and mechanically inclined. I work out 4x a week, and I generally eat healthy. I’m a reasonably talented musician, having grown up in a family of musicians. I’ve got a fun social circle, and I throw a nice party. I dress well, and I’m pretty good looking. I enjoy camping, hiking, and mountain climbing. I also enjoy music festivals, art galleries, and museums. Im always down to try something new. I keep my place clean, and I’m a dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:10 PM
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The older I get the more I realize that femininity is whatever I find romantically attractive as a heterosexual cisgendered male. If you act, behave, dress, talk, think in a way that makes me more attracted to you then that’s pretty much all I care about. I think girly girls are cute. I think biker babes are hot. I don’t follow the “cute, pretty, hot” thing differently. First it comes down to whether or not I want to smash. Then it comes down to whether or not I want to wife you. I enjoy etiquet…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:36 PM
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Agriculture is the lifestyle you want to get into if you want to be traditional but “poor”, with some (potentially) high quality mates. I mean that seriously too. I work in agriculture, specifically for a certain 4 letter agency. There’s been a romanticization of farm life in the last 20 years (which is kind of a good thing for a lot more than gender relationships), and there’s an uptick in younger generations pursuing that as a career/goal. Being more conscious of the environment, surrounded by…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:55 PM
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I ended up in a similar situation. I think a lot of women don’t necessarily know how, because their own dating experience has reinforced the idea that they don’t need to put in effort. However, I’ve also found a lot of women are willing to do so if you show you’re a higher quality mate. So I don’t mind putting in a little more effort at times, but it’s a fine line. As long as I’m not being taken advantage of and I see genuine effort from them then I just try to be easy going about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:59 PM
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It’s not a rule though. It’s a popularized opinion. Anecdotal evidence is valid, this subreddit would just rather wallow in self-misery. There’s a lot more to finding a mate and getting laid than flat out being rich, but the guys here don’t know how to compensate for a lack of personality besides with money. Middle class isn’t rich. Nah you’re not bagging your dream girl if you work at McDonalds, but if you use your brain and work on improving yourself, you’re not going to have trouble finding m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:56 PM
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Ya do it by avoiding being friendzoned, while still being friends. It’s not my problem they think I’m sexy. Women want to hang around a good time, so be a good time. If you’re baby daddy material, they’ll be open to sleeping with you. It’s not a guarantee that applies to every woman, but why are you relying on one woman for this? Men on this subreddit act like they have no agency. You can be a sweetheart, you can be funny, you can be charming, you can be good looking (just get in shape). Get a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:36 PM
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I’ve dated around the same socioeconomic status with 0 issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:21 PM
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The shit end of the stick for being a man was the mortal risk. The work was kind of a given considering we’re stronger. We’re expected to die for them, they’re expected to give us babies. That’s the foundation of gender roles pre-civilization and that has influenced us ever since. Yes that’s the deal. Apparently it’s pissed a lot of people off. Unfortunately, it’s genetics, so there’s not too much we can do about it. But that’s the past. There’s no reason to cry about that. The new system values…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:23 AM
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This is going to sound like mansplaining. That’s not my intention. I just want to maybe explain that guys point of view, and my point of view: The core dynamic for most of human history is that women were property but men were disposable. It’s harsh, but it’s true. Let’s jump back about 10,000 years into tribal days. Biologically we’re pretty much the same now as we were then. But the environmental conditions were extremely different. Women were the life source of the tribe. They were baby facto…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:58 AM
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Less people are getting married, but divorce rates are going down. I don’t think the reversal of gender roles is necessarily something that causes relationships to break down. An unexpected change might (a man becomes unemployed, a woman takes a promotion to that reduces her time at home, etc) but that’s more of a problem with an unexpected change in the relationship structure, i.e. I didn’t sign up for this! I do however think they act as inhibitors to starting relationships, for good and bad r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:18 AM
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Thank you 😊 The same to you as well It’s important to be grounded in all things. Everything else clouds the truth. Communication is the key. Direct, explicit, mindful communication. I’ve definitely been the bad guy a few times. But I just make sure that if something contrasts with who I want to be, I work on improving it. I want to be attractive, and women decide if you’re attractive. It’s not very attractive to be an asshole now is it? I feel bad that women aren’t believed even though they all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:08 PM
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Sort of. I mean I’ve taken a hiatus from dating to focus on myself. I’m not where I want to be. The internal image I have right now is a bit corrupting. I feel like I can date someone who fits me better when my headspace is right, and my headspace will be right when my second contract comes through next year and I get in better shape (I’m not exactly out of shape, but I did put on 25lbs post Covid and that is unacceptable to me. I’ve lost 10 so far). For me I feel like if I date now, I’m settlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:54 PM
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Are you understanding what the person is saying? Hypergamy is what women do. They want the guy who has the career that can provide more for her than she can on her own. She leverages her natural qualities to raise her SMV. I actually think there’s more to it than youth, fertility, and beauty. Beauty and fertility (youth falls under both of these) are big, but honestly I’m not gonna marry someone who doesn’t make me laugh. I want a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:47 PM
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Yeah I hear all of this stuff, and I can’t imagine it. It’s not my style. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen though, it just feels so… self-sabotaging? I’m very comfortable in who I am, and my value isn’t related to a (gender) role. There’s no reason to attach your self worth to whether or not you have to “submit” to the women in an argument. I’ve dealt with some women in dating where that’s kind of a thing, a shit test basically, but I stride with enough internal power that it’s clear my value is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:41 PM
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I think toxic masculinity and toxic femininity is at play here. I don’t think this is as a big of a problem as the internet makes out to be, but maybe I’m just charming. I will say that I have dated women who don’t enjoy being with domestic oriented men. I’m 50/50 on it. I keep my place clean, and I have a job. My ego isn’t really attached to it one way or the other. I’m a scientist, but I kind of just fell into it. It’s cool, but I’ve got enjoyable hobbies. If I dated some high powered high ear…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:24 PM
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Guy here. I think you’ve got a lot of valid points. My ex is very successful, moreso than me, and I didn’t get to insecure about it. Sometimes I felt like the odd one out, she had a large network, but I wasn’t bothered by her success, as I had my own goals and I feel like you should want your partner to succeed. We’re still great friends, our breakup was because we were on different life paths. However I do some issue with your comment about lower intelligence. I was definitely the smarter one b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:09 PM
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Well there’s no such thing as objective beauty so that’s a stupid question. I like athletic girls. Or non-athletic girls with a nice face and a cute butt. That being said I lift, so that beer gut is over some definition. The real answer is I’m ballsy, I’m funny, I’m intelligent, and ambitious. I’m not afraid of throwing down with somebody in person. I think I’m pretty attractive, but I used to think I was ugly af. People just need to stop being little bitches and go for it. Don’t be a creep, rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:39 PM
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Mate I don’t even remember meeting my ex (the first girl I actually loved). I was high as a fucking kite, partying at this underground rave. Evidently she was live painting. I walked over asked her what she would do with $1500, then proceeded to have a conversation about the inherent class behaviors related to arbitrary sums of money, then I left. Then I turned around and asked for her social media. Then I left and got lost. I remember the night starting and ending. My point being, I don’t care …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:15 PM
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I mean why’s he gotta be fat? That’s on him, boo, that’s on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:59 PM
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👏👏👏
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:58 PM
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The incelness here. Mate just go and say hi. Be a decent conversationalist. Don’t be a creep. Read the room. After that, fuck what the internet says. I’m 5’7”, I’ve got a beer gut, crooked teeth, rosacea, and I’m pale as a ghost. I have a great sex life with beautiful women because I’m not a god damn creep, and I’m not some wimp who’s too afraid to go say hi. I ain’t got time for these stupid disqualifiers. She might have some sort of rules, but that’s cause she hasn’t met me. I don’t even think…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:48 PM
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That’s completely ridiculous. How are you supposed to tell when a woman is interested in you exactly? They don’t usually say it. Meanwhile explicit consent is also a standard. You’re point of view is horrible. The vast majority of women I’ve dated was because I randomly approached them. It’s about being tactful. Don’t be creepy. I strike up conversations with all sorts of strangers, men and women. Same rules apply. If they look busy, don’t bother them. If they don’t, then just be a decent conver…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:42 PM
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I mean it’s a two way street. Sometimes a perspective is valid. Sometimes it’s misandry. This sounds a whole lot like misandry Again, I understand women having an inherent fear of men. I get that it’s our job to be disarming. But evidently there’s a line for me, and I just found it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:06 AM
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This mindset is just as bad as the men you’re demonizing. I don’t think inherently your mindset is wrong, that yes there are spooky men out there, and it’s a man’s job to present himself in a disarming way. However, if your threshold for fear is a guy saying you look cute and asking for your number, that is a special level of socially broken and that is on you to fix it, not male culture. With that logic, there is literally no way for a man to approach you. If you want a man at some point you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 02:46 AM
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It’s about context. Explaining that is far beyond the nuance of this forum. I asked out my first girlfriend like 5 times over the course of a year. I was pretty awkward at the time, but each of the times I did ask her out, I never behaved rudely after. I was persistent, sure, every couple of months I’d drop a line about going on a date (I had zero game, I was just sweet). Every time I got a no. I gave up. 5 months later she shot me a message online, and that was that. There’s better ways to do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 01:42 AM
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Yeah but that’s where game comes in. For the novice, you end up getting stuck in the mindset that there’s no reason to approach women but for sex. If you can genuinely approach them for something else, and remain indifferent as to whether or not you get your number, that’s the way to go. Because then you can ask her for her number and it won’t be disingenuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 09:17 PM
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Eh, not exactly… but you have to genuinely want to be there outside of trying to meet women. Women aren’t as opposed to meeting strangers as this sub makes it out to be. You have to be friendly, charming, and genuine. Genuine is the kicker. If you go to cafe chic because it’s a nice place to read a book or do some work, you’re perfectly fine. If you go there to find a woman, they’ll probably be able to tell. If you see somebody reading a book that looks interesting, you can ask them about the bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 06:12 PM
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Not entirely, but it covers most of the ground. Have you ever seen an absolute smokeshow with a drop dead gorgeous man? There’s a reason they’re together. Go up and talk to the guy and you find out he’s actually really cool. It’s not looks alone. We’ve all, men and women, have seen someone who we thought was stunningly beautiful. Some people don’t even try to compete for them, because they think they’re out of their league. Some of them do, and get rejected. Some of them get selected. There’s a …
/r/seduction26/10/22 05:22 AM
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You ever just don’t want to have sex cause you don’t want to deal with the bullshit? I’m not saving her from herself, I’m just not interested in dealing with her hurt feelings when she finds out I’m not that into her. At this point, I just prefer to work on myself. I’m never in a hurry to find someone, and working on myself continually increases my exposure to quality people. It’s a pretty good routine that works pretty well. I’m more of a chemistry type of person. My desire to do anything with …
/r/seduction26/10/22 04:53 AM
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Well I’m at the bridge between Gen-Z and Millenial. It was different 10 years ago. Nowadays people are terminally online. It kind of feels essentially like people don’t take a chance on people in real life. They can have a risk free chance of small validation through dating apps, or they can might have a bad date in real life; which gets magnified through the lens of “Is this person a crazy?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 01:26 AM
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Honestly this is almost a side note, but I think the real issue out here is social media. When you’re getting an abnormal amount of 10’s blasted at you, it raises your expectations. That’s happening to both men and women. Then when you’re continually getting hit with the horror stories, it makes you mistrusting. I think there’s a middle ground which requires both men and women to take a small to medium-sized step back and realistically look at the other gender. None of this progress is of ill-in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 09:01 PM
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Wow this sub used to have rational discourse, now it’s just two sides turtling into their own perspectives instead of discussing the merits and problems of each side. Oh wait, it’s Reddit, one of the most profoundly anti-intellectual shitholes on the internet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 03:25 AM
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Yeah this is one of my favorite subs for the diversity in view points, generally argued in a respectful manner (it’s Reddit, it’s never going to be entirely respectful).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 10:11 PM
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But I'm not apologizing. And I get the apologetics you're referring to, but I'm just explaining my position. I will admit that I do tend to write out overly long replies that I really don't need to. Regardless, as far as your last point, I was kind of hoping that she saw that it wasn't just me. A lot of HVM see it the same way. There's a give and a take.
/r/RedPillWomen12/07/22 12:00 AM
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I wrote a long reply to her. I'm the male OP she's replying to. I honestly have no issue with successful women for the most part. I've dated quite a few. My issue is that the one's that I've dated didn't really have time for a relationship. Lower pressure jobs usually do have more time. I'm not saying all successful women don't have time for a family, just the one's that I've dated. I want more quality family time in my life. It's a balanced priority for me. I've been taking a dating hiatus, but…
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/22 09:38 PM
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Again, I don't actually have a problem with that. I can only speak from my own dating experience but some of my ex's were highly ambitious, very hard-working, very talented, very intelligent, successful women. I didn't feel insecure next to them, and honestly I thought it was kind of awesome. I like being with "winners". You can be a SAHM and still be a winner imo, to me it's about how you approach your chosen path in life. Take ownership of your life, and work to excel at it. The problem I ran …
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/22 09:16 PM
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For me (I’m a male engineer), it’s less to do with self-esteem or control and more to do with goal differences. I want a family. I already make enough to provide for a family. A partner with a career oftentimes is focusing on their career in contrast to a family. I’ll be the first to say I support that. A woman wants to have a career that’s totally cool. I have nothing against being with a woman who does. But I want someone that will put family first. I work to support my lifestyle, my lifestyle…
/r/RedPillWomen11/07/22 04:32 PM
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This ended up being pretty long. TL;DR at the bottom. Well I don’t necessarily think Red Pill Women and Red Pill Men are a dichotomy. As in, RPW are not necessarily picking RPM. Or if they are, it’s because they’re at different stages (RPM eventually get to a settle down stage, RPW immediately has an overall focus on family). I would argue that the RPM online community can be a fair bit caustic, however they’ve got some good sources for their information which I’ve read (I see myself as more of …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 10:54 PM
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He’s Canadian bro 🤦🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 04:22 PM
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Well the problem is the government. Essentially the reason Men don’t get a say is because a single parent is much more likely to rely on government resources to support their family, i.e. the welfare queen. Neither parent can swear off fiduciary responsibility but since women give birth, they have that physical attachment to the child in these situations. They can’t disappear while the child is born. At the same time, starting with Roe v. Wade and up until the recent debacle, you can’t really fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 03:06 PM
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‘Trying’ and ‘confidence’ are synonyms in this statement Men approach women. That hump really is what most men fail at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:21 PM
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One of the essential tenets of RP theory is that the top 20% of men get 80% of the sex. I agree with it but it’s less to do with natural qualities and more to do with the fact that those guys are trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:41 PM
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Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 05:39 PM
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Are you in a relationship rn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/22 04:45 PM
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I wouldn’t know about that. I went back to school, and it’s been pretty isolating. I’m also older, didn’t really start at the university with everyone else, and then got buried in class work.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:39 PM
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You know I’ve got mixed feelings on hypergamy myself. On the one hand, it can be frustrating when it feels like the girls around you are only chasing after doctors, lawyers, CEO’s, and that’s framed as all the main thing they care about when it comes to selecting a mate. On the other hand, guys suck in their own ways, and hypergamy motivates them to add something to society. Not just in the high earning sense, but just having ambitions and goals and reaching for them; which I think overall is mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 05:37 PM
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It’s definitely not for everyone. It often feels like an uphill battle sometimes. To some, it comes with the baggage of past societal implications. Oppressing women and various synonyms. To others, it feels like a sacrifice. Having to give up their career to have a family. To others who do want that, some of them just want to be a mooch. A lazy housecat, a life of idle pleasure while someone works to support them. These are sweeping generalizations. I don’t think this describes every women at al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 02:27 AM
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The only reason I like traditional gender roles somewhat more than modern roles is because of the focus on family. I’m not religious or conservative much at all. I think women should have an equal opportunity in everything, I totally support them being in the workplace, equal pay for the same job, all of the progressive things. But I just find that you lose out on the partnership and team building nowadays. Everyone puts their career first. And honestly that’s not something I even want to do. Li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:07 PM
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I’m aware of that, but people with that kind of mindset are a larger group than the group of people for whom that is actually true. That response is often used as an excuse, to not do the hardwork that needs to be done, by many young men who feel disenfranchised by modern society. Believe me I get it. The OG incel movement was about severely disabled people lobbying to legalize sex work. Which makes sense, and is something that a lot of people can see the merit of. How is somebody who is of sane…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 12:04 PM
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I wasn’t saying you specifically were whining. But this is the general feel of this sub. I like this sub for entertainment, and sometimes the frank discussion has some gold in it. But it’s mostly just whining. But on the other hand, the more you work on yourself, and the better your network becomes, the more concentrated and tough the competition becomes. Winners hang around winners. So you start hanging around winners and suddenly you find your back to being average again, even if you’re doing …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:45 AM
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I mean speak for yourself. I’m pretty damn selective based on looks. Doesn’t get me laid very much. But instead of whining about it, I just work on myself. Do more career building events, work out more frequently, engage more often in my hobbies, just personal growth all around. The moment will come. I try to do better than my last partner each time. It just takes more work and more waiting. I don’t play games. I don’t chase. I mean I will if I feel like it will work out, but in my younger days,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 01:30 AM
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As a reference point, I was raised in redneckia, Florida. So right wing, deeply conservative, southern attitudes. My views developed from that. I have a lot of beef with stoicism in our society. It’s widely misapplied and it’s caused a lot of problems. It’s partially to blame for toxic masculinity. It’s also extremely self serious. I don’t have much beef against it as a personal philosophy and the utility it possesses on an individual level. But it’s often applied as a zero compromise attitude, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:40 PM
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That thread was about a 17 year old who was feeling residual anxiety that they associated from an acid experience several months prior. Evidently they had to go the hospital or something in that interim. To me that just sounds like life stress, both from being 17, and also going to a hospital is a stressful experience all around. But it’s easy to look for the simple answer, that may have a simple solution. A psychedelic trip makes for an easy scapegoat. Then you have other 17 year olds on the th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:29 PM
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You’re good! I agree that karate isn’t a very effective combat sport. The few times I’ve been in street fights, I barely used it. There’s a lot more grappling on the street. The people I learned from were definitely qualified, and I think when teaching about the windpipe they just wanted to make it clear to a bunch of teenagers that it was off limits unless your life was threatened. Glad we’re on the same page now!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 04:21 PM
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I mean I’m summarizing. I did it for 5 years as a teenager and haven’t done it since. Definitely The wind pipe wasn’t referenced as a choking point but as a striking point in that analogy. Definitely wasn’t a McDojo. It was karate, not BJJ. The instructor was a 10th Dan, and the sub instructors were a 7th Dan, two 4th Dan’s, and then many lower ranked Black Belts. The 10th Dan studied under Masutatsu Oyama aka the guy that brought karate to the west. I don’t know why I’m bothering to qualify mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 10:24 PM
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It’s not about consciousness. It’s about damaging the windpipe. The windpipe is like a styrofoam cup. Has some flex, but at a certain point it breaks. Veins and arteries are much more flexible. That’s straight from my MMA class where they explained how not to kill your opponent in a ring fight, vs weak points to target if you’re fighting for your life. But yeah, consciousness is related to blood flow. When people die in auto erotic asphyxiation accidents, or suicides, or short drop executions, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 09:06 PM
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Most chokes are blood flow and airflow chokes. But during sex, you’re not trying subdue or defeat an opponent. So just squeeze the sides when you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 04:34 AM
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I mean everyone has their preferences for a relationship style. But when we’re talking about the psychology behind why people like certain sexual acts that involve domination and submission, it’s fair to reference D/s relationships. Not everyone who enjoys those acts craves a D/s relationship, but generally anyone who is into D/s is into kinky bedroom play. Anyone who is into D/s will have a highly developed reason for why they’re into it. My hypothesis is that it comes from the same place withi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:53 PM
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I think the first thing that happens is a child decides whether they want embrace a relationship like their parents or whether they want to reject it. I think people whose parents had a healthy relationship kind of take the default approach. It works why do otherwise? That explains normal egalitarian relationships, and my housewife friend. Her mother was effectively a housewife too. My friend has a bachelor degree in gender studies, literally. Her whole thing was to find the right kind of man to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 07:40 PM
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Alternatively they have a potentially overbearing or highly protective father. I’m friends with a D/s couple and the s-type had a great relationship with her father, but she was daddy’s princess sort of deal. The D-type in the relationship is a fair bit older than her, and has that big daddy energy. She’s kind of a mess without a man, but together they really do well together. She’s basically a housewife, and assists him with running the family business (ironically started by her father). I do t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:44 PM
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Just so no one accidentally kills anyone, it feels good because you’re reducing blood flow to the brain. Not because you’re starving yourself of oxygen. So squeeze with the tips of your fingers on the sides of the neck, and not with the palm of your hand. The windpipe is a lot more fragile than your jugular. Relax in the center of the throat, and put pressure on the sides. Sure it’s a dominant action to choke somebody, but a lot of the science behind why it feels good has nothing to do with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 06:26 PM
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Where did you get that image from?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 06:21 PM
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Who knows what he’s thinking about? What people see split personality/dissociative identity disorder is within all of us, they just have extremely developed prominent separate alters; while for the vast majority, it’s much more fluid. We have alters, as a sort of short hand OS. It’s kind of like loading a background personality that allows you to think faster and handle situations better. Think of a customer service rep on the phone. They are accustomed to handling verbal abuse with hardly a ser…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 02:54 PM
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Not the person you responded too, but I think that’s more to do with the fact that religion sometimes conflicts with universal parts of human nature but on a personal individual level. Many humans are non monogamous, many other humans are “monogamous” as a lifestyle but will cheat because of all the reasons why people cheat. That’s what I mean about human nature. You don’t need religion to know that cheating is wrong. It doesn’t stop people from cheating. Religion advertises that it is a more mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:38 PM
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Why do you think that is? Not the person you responded too. But I wonder why it seems to be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 08:15 PM
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My POV is to stop judging it and to stop giving a shit about it. A lot of what is sexually appealing is the taboo. Cuck entered the cultural lexicon around the time of the 2016 election. Not that it wasn’t around, but 4chan blew it up. Porn might have something to do with it, but it’s also one of the ultimate taboos. Partner sanctioned cheating? When you’re within a society that was founded by puritans, what could be more taboo than that? It’s emasculating and calls out your value/character as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:33 PM
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I don’t think women are more mentally fragile. If anything, men are much more mentally fragile. Reason is that women societally are better allowed to express their emotions. It’s considered normal and okay. So they don’t have to be logical about how they’re feeling, they can express their mood more openly. Men, OTOH, are conditioned to embody stoicism. The emotional expression is meant to be regulated. However, underneath and at the core of all of this, is that our diets, our sleep schedules, ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 05:21 PM
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It’s all about the finesse. If she likes you, you had a nice date, things feel right… you lean in, gently, strongly. Stare her in the eyes. Softly, with that masculine edge, say (don’t ask, even though you are asking cause a real man will respect her answer)… “Can I kiss you?” Or you don’t. Read a damn room. There ain’t no play by play for getting laid, but if people focused on the energy rather than the words, everyone would be getting laid a lot more. Sometimes you can ask, sometimes you know …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:58 AM
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Social media. People are neurotic because statistics about violence and assaults are plastered in their face through so many different channels and formats. The #MeToo movement has done as much harm as it’s done good, but the damage is beneath the surface. It’s made people scared to take a chance and date for all of the possible consequences. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be an awareness of the issues it highlights, but it surely damaged the dating scene. The glorification of mental illness whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:48 AM
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Who hurt you? Just be a man, see the trap for what it is, and move on. It’s part of growing up. You’ll deal with it at some point. A lot of men have even fallen for it at one point or another, myself included. Maturity let’s you get past that. Women do want you to be direct. But they don’t want a socially awkward fool who doesn’t know how to interact, and won’t respect their boundaries. Men don’t slut shame women, women slut shame women. Social politics and gossip is the domain of women. They wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:30 AM
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I get what he’s saying but there’s a lot of other cues that go along with it. Otherwise, if she is standing next to you, and she is interested, do you really want to pursue a girl that makes it that difficult to read her intentions?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:12 AM
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Start people watching. I get coffee in the mornings at the coffee shop down my street. I don’t go there to people watch, but when you go there enough, you often do. You can definitely see when a girl is interested in someone. Their presence just opens up. It’s not the same as just being friendly. You begin to notice a difference. If they’re friendly they might just make normal conversation, smile, laugh a little, normal people stuff. If they’re busy, they’re probably going to be more short and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:04 AM
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‘Horse riding is a personality trait’ Isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:53 PM
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I’m a guy. I wanted to make sure my hobbies really stood out. So I started making embroidered bagpipe covers. I’m drowning in pussy o yea.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:53 PM
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Homegirl there are ugly people out there, and you are not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:51 PM
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Imo I think people are people. If you made a single person for each sex that was the sum average of all men and all women respectively, I think they’d be pretty equally good and bad. I’m a guy. I think the problem we’re facing has to do with the fact that people are more insular nowadays, since they can get their need for social interaction both online and in person. Echo chambers amplify bad stories, women seem a little more hesitant around strangers now than they did years ago. Men still have …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:50 PM
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I think it’s the dynamic that women are commodities, and men are expendable. Society was founded on caveman dynamics. It’s only in the last hundred years we’ve tried to reverse this. Women carry the next generation for 9 months, and tribes want to protect these ‘resources.’ When you’re popping out babies endlessly, you can’t really fight. So men have to defend the tribe, defend the women. If a man dies, well another guy can step in. Women have a shorter window of fertility, a long gestational pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:40 PM
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Children that turned into men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:22 PM
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I see the point you’re trying to make even though you somehow failed to make it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 02:17 PM
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I think social media is the real problem here. Look outside, just around you, things are pretty good. But these echo chambers can really drive up anxiety and paranoia. People will point to columbine and all the prior crazies to say it’s a different issue, but honestly if you look at the rise in these problems, it coincides with the rise of social media. Social media has its benefits, but I wonder if the small dopamine drip and the curated content is worth the anxiety. I miss 2004-2013 era of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:13 AM
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But too small for u/FancyCocktailOlive’s mom right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 04:06 AM
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I think it makes it worse actually. Violence unfortunately is part of human behavior. We’ll never be able to get rid of it. I think what we have right now, is a pot of water that’s boiling over. This solution is putting the lid on the pressure cooker, so the stove doesn’t get wet. But it’ll blow. Censoring Trump and r/TheDonald didn’t make that situation any better, how will this be any different? Censorship makes sense to people that censorship would work on. Because to them it looks like a sol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 06:01 PM
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The 80’s isn’t that long ago if we’re talking about human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:50 PM
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Yeah I never would have considered Pete Davidson ugly until the internet decided he was. He’s not a supermodel but he seems about as attractive as the next hot guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 05:30 PM
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Sorts by controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:30 PM
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You’re right. It’s still not a solution. The solution is probably the solution for most things nowadays… Be online less
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:29 PM
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I don’t think there’s a difference in libido. I just think you have a more sensitive generation, that exists both online and in-person. They can avoid in-person interaction and feed their social needs through the internet. Women are more gun shy about strange men, but I think the threshold is sinking lower as to what constitutes strange. Instagram inundates you with beautiful people, so both men and women are more choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:29 PM
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Pre internet when people wanted to socialize they had to go out. They had to talk to people. Now people can get their fill of social interaction online, so they can be more selective in-person. But then you go online and you see how dating apps are used, and it’s a problem. People use them for validation more than they use them for dating. I’m no incel, but it’s a problem. The younger generation is much less social, and much more leery of in-person interactions. I think it will cool somewhat as …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 03:26 PM
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*Wombs are more valuable than sperm
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