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This is rage bait
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:39 PM
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I said “might,” not saying that it’s automatically true, but seeing that a lot of online discourse from toxic men involves a lot of attacking single mothers, I’m saying it’s possible that a man who has decided he will never date a single mother may have gotten his opinion from some unsavory corner of the internet. It’s okay to have any preference you want, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 09:41 PM
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I get where this post is coming from but the phrasing is obnoxious and probably intentionally inflammatory. Two things can simultaneously be true. Terminally online men constantly shit on single mothers, and blame them and make all kinds of assumptions about them and unfairly generalize them all as a bunch of sluts. It is also true that, even if a man doesn’t believe any of those things, dating a single mother is still far more risky and complicated than dating someone who doesn’t have kids. Sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 07:13 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:38 AM
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Your repeated use of the word territory makes no sense. Our ancestors lived in social groups. There was no territorial behavior between individual men in the same social group. A single male out in his own territory alone in the state of nature would not last very long. If you’re saying that men compete against each other to have sex with hot women and women compete against each other to have sex with hot men, I agree. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 05:29 AM
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I dunno I think one is very openly misogynistic and the other is mostly not
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:16 AM
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1/2 - not sure why that happened. Let’s try this again. 1). Your defense of this quote does not include anything that it actually says. “Everyone likes to have sex with hot people” is so obvious that it goes without saying. “When engaging in casual sex, you might as well prioritize physical appearance” falls squarely into category one: advice that is widely available outside of red pill. If “the red pill is primarily focused on the short term sexual hookup market” fine, but in that case the advi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:14 AM
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Ah okay my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:37 AM
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“Richardson said [the ministry] would focus on the influence the internet and social media have on male attitudes towards women… Gender-based violence is plaguing Australia – 31 women have been killed across the country so far this year, according to the Counting Dead Women project. Last year, 64 women were murdered, the group said. Last weekend, a woman and her daughter were shot dead in Perth, Western Australia… In a statement, the man’s daughter said that, “when my father couldn’t find us he …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:33 PM
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Aw come on man I didn’t realize that was Circle jerking! I was just being polite and engaging with a comment on my post! Why did the original reply get deleted instead of just my response to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:00 PM
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So as far as I can tell, nichemaxxing is finding an aesthetic/community that you enjoy and getting really into it? Not unique to the redpill at all. Anyone can tell you that a distinct sense of style will be appreciated by women who are into that specific niche. Bro, this is seriously exactly what I’m talking about when I say that most redpill advice is generic. I say “show me an example of advice that only red pill is talking about.” Your response is “develop a unique personal style to attract …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:34 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:14 PM
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I understand what you’re trying to say. My problem isn’t a lack of understanding, I just think you’re wrong. You say that the red pill discusses generic self improvement advice in a way that is “deeper and more specific.” Can you provide some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 07:00 PM
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It’s not inherently because it’s “toxic it’s because if a piece of advice is toxic that means it’s ultimately bad advice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 06:57 PM
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Not an answer. I said “plenty of people other than red pill give men real, specific advice on how to become more attractive.” Your response is “no they don’t.” Plenty of sources outside of red pill tell men how to become more confident, flirt with women, and make themselves a more attractive partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:13 PM
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I don’t really know what to say to this. Your reply seems to be premised on the belief that talking with and listening to a woman is a poor use of your time? If this is what you think, I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 05:02 PM
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I am sorry to hear that you are lonely. While it can be tempting to take out your frustration on women, it’s just ultimately not worth it. Subscribing to an ideology that dehumanizes women will make it harder to connect with them, thus, ironically, likely increasing your loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:44 PM
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Like I said in my original post, a man seeking to make himself more attractive to women has a lot of good advice at his disposal outside of redpill. It’s common knowledge that you can improve your romantic prospects by socializing more, acting more confident, getting more fit, finding new hobbies, getting a better job, etc. Red pill does not have a monopoly on this advice. A basic tenant of red pill is acting like the rest of the world doesn’t give men real advice on how to make themselves more …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:39 PM
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Women also compete with each other. Women also get horny. I agree men are on average stronger. What’s your point? Exploration and territoriality? Male territoriality is mostly a function of solitary animals like bears. Humans evolve from primates who were definitively pack animals. They could be territorial, but it’s more like this territory belongs to my social group, including women. Are you saying that male domesticated animals are harder to train? I’ve never heard of this before but am open …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:24 PM
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I don’t really know what blue pill is and kind of doubt it’s a comprehensive ideology at all. I only flaired myself that way because I wholly reject red pill, and I’d venture to guess that’s basically all anyone means when they say blue pill. Again, red pill does not have a monopoly on basic self help. Really no one is saying that all you need to do to attract women is worship them. Plenty of non redpill sources agree that you can improve your romantic prospects by working on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:17 PM
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Exactly. In order to find examples of radical man hating feminists you have to look at the fringes. You can find examples of vile woman hating red pillers by spending less than sixty seconds on their subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:13 PM
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Lmao exactly. “Well if you take ALL of these quotes out of context and forget that they’re from red pill and do mental backflips to explain why they’re actually not misogynistic you’ll see that they’re not misogynistic!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 04:11 PM
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2/2 3). I don’t “presume” that the red pill is misogynistic, I see it with my own two eyes! I’ve provided numerous quotes and links from their subreddit clearly demonstrating that the red pill is chock full of bitter, resentful pseudoscientific nonsense. I think these quotes speak for themselves. Do you not? Just for good measure, here’s a link to the post this is from: https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/7p8k9r/women_are_utterly_incapable_of_loving_a_man_in/ It’s a link to an article on…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 09:01 AM
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Alright man sounds good, good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 07:43 PM
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You’re the one making an assertion that you have not provided any substantive evidence for, I ask for evidence, and your response is to give me homework? Alright, two can play at that game. Go ahead and read A Room of One’s Own by Virginia Woolf, link below. There’ll be a quiz on Monday. Let me know if you have any questions! https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200791h.html
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:02 PM
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Dang it! GG I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:31 PM
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Women are the same as men in almost every way. They need and want the same things, (food water, money, social belonging, self actualization, etc.) when it comes to dating, they’re still mostly the same as men. They want a partner who is attractive and treats them well. There are some differences. I personally buy that women can be a little more selective than men, and they sometimes place more emphasis on certain qualities when it comes to what they find attractive. I buy that women sometimes pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:29 PM
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Explain what female nature is?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:16 PM
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Today I learned that 40% to 60% = 100%. In all seriousness, I kind of agree that a LOT of people have at least one or two serious character flaws that can potentially make them a bad partner. I do not see all women as angels. To be honest, I sort of naively thought this way when I was younger and it led to me being taken advantage of by a woman I had feelings for. BUT here’s the key: that experience did not turn me into a misogynist. Ultimately, plenty of women are flawed, just like plenty of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:58 PM
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Okay, give me some examples then. How do the attitudes described in this research translate into systems of power that significantly favor women over men?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:55 PM
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You’re being intentionally obtuse. I’m saying that my problem with that language has nothing to do with feelings and everything to do with how it teaches men to behave. Are you asking me why strait men are attracted to women? Is that question really worth discussing? I get that you’re probably trying to set up some kinds gotcha but I really just can’t imagine what it could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:12 PM
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It doesn’t matter whether you’re polite. What matters is what your ideology claims to value in women and the impact that has on men who subscribe to your ideology. Teaching men that a woman is just a body and a uterus is dehumanizing and makes men behave poorly. It has nothing to do with being polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:04 PM
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I think you can explain that you can age gracefully and if you work on yourself you’ll have options without implying that a woman is only as valuable as her body is young. Men and women both can age gracefully or poorly depending on what choices they make. I mean, you just compared women to cars. Do I really have to explain why I think that’s kind of dehumanizing??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:40 PM
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I won’t deny that a woman’s biological functions are important, much like a man’s, but what’s the point of bringing this up and emphasizing it? It’s a dating sub. Do we really needs posts saying “remember guys, the goal here is to put your penis inside of her vagina.” I’m asking what unique insight or advantage is gained by emphasizing that women (like men) get old and slowly become less attractive when they get older? What’s the point of bringing that up and emphasizing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:57 PM
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This is a straw man that I think you’d be wise to deprogram from your mind. Almost no one ever argues “you can’t say that because it’s hurtful!” My argument is that red pill is gross and insane, not that it hurts my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:50 PM
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1). I understand how biology works. My issue with the “depreciating asset” comment is that I think it’s really telling about the kind of women red pill men are interested in, and what red pill men value in women. Certainly, everyone likes beautiful women. But if you see a woman’s body as her “unique selling point,” I think that means you don’t particularly value her as a person. Also, to say a woman “depreciates in value,” once again, means that her body is the most important thing about her. Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:46 PM
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Alright, here’s a few posts I found sorting by top this year. Here’s a guy whose wife wasn’t having enough sex with him so he cheated on her, which he thinks made her subconsciously decide to be a better wife. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/s/0JICMRWvgi This post argues that women are all narcissists. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/s/IOqqBBNuDR
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:16 PM
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Yes I do
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:14 PM
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I agree with freethinker312, this reply is presently not worth my time. What I will say is that it’s kind of hilarious how people who say and think a lot of insane shit will be like “oh boo hoo are you offended?” Like no bro I’m not offended I just think you believe a lot of really stupid awful shit. That’s not the same as being offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:14 PM
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I agree that in dating advice for men it’s not necessarily relevant to say what men do, my point is that red pill pseudo scientifically prescribed negative behavior to women while leaving out that men do it too. Everything red pill accuses women of is just basic human behavior. Saying that a woman is primarily valuable for her physical appearance and then acting like that’s some obvious fact that all men agree with is not the mic drop you think it is. It’s really honestly a self own. All people …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:12 PM
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So that’s five studies measuring what I assume are individual peoples biases? I’m more concerned with systems of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:08 PM
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Any answers to the specific reasons I gave that I’m not particularly worried about the posts I saw?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:04 PM
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Is it not? Where can I find legit red pill literature if not in the information section or the subreddit dedicated or to the ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:54 PM
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I’m not sure what to make of this. This woman just seems genuinely scared about the state of the world, but all of the top comments are either giving her encouragement, empathizing with her, or providing reasons to be optimistic. Don’t really see how this is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:53 PM
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Like I said I agree female dating strategy is insane. No disagreement here other than they represent a vanishingly small percent of women, especially since they left Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:52 PM
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searched I hate men on twoX and took a look at the top five results. First one is about sexual harassment, second one is called “I don’t actually hate men,” third one is about domestic violence, fourth one is titled “I’m becoming a man hater and I don’t want to be” the fifth one is about sexual assault. I might potentially agree that the language can be a little hyperbolic but these women are talking about the legitimately awful things men still regularly do to women. And on top of that, they’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:51 PM
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I do and I don’t see what you’re seeing. Show me a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:21 PM
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Quotes taken directly from the red pill sidebar = straw man how????
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:20 PM
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Female Dating Strategy is insane. I actually was sort of morbidly curious about them for a while so I actually know a bit about them. I will not defend them at all as I think it’s basically the red pill for women. The thing is though, they lost a lot of members when they transitioned from Reddit to their own website. I agree that they’re awful but they’re not nearly as bad as red pill. As far as ask feminism and twoX, these subs are fine. I’m sure you can find examples of bad posts, but not near…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:14 PM
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Lmao “radio silence” that reply was made at like 5:00 AM in my time zone! I just woke up give me some time to catch up bro!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:09 PM
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Lol there’s not much here. Just snarky sarcastic replies. Come back with real arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:07 PM
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It’s in the sidebar tho. The mods of the red pill sub decided it was important enough to permanently pin for members to easily see.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:07 PM
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Do I need to know a documentary level history of which incels founded red pill and which incels joined later? I don’t think “OP doesn’t know the entire history of the red pill” is the own you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:06 PM
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So you can say something like “anti male bias is worse than racism and classism (absolutely absurd) and data shows that women are irrational, I say show me proof, and you say go look it up? Don’t you think that’s a bit lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:04 PM
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Yeah I think the red pills description of “female nature” is pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:01 PM
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I’m sorry that you apparently have low quality women around you. They do not represent all women. I’ve been lucky enough to know plenty of women who are very intelligent and with whom I can discuss nearly anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:01 PM
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I don’t know the history of the redpill, only what it looks like in its current form.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:12 AM
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How many of the following statements do you agree with? “Women are depreciating assets, their major asset and unique selling point is their sexual beauty and fertility.” “Women are more selfish than men.” “Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved.” “Men believe that love matters for the sake of it. Women love opportunistically.” “Remember, women are children: mentally, behaviourally, evolutionarily. They are not like us. They don't think like us, or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:11 AM
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You’re describing the behavior of toxic women who do not represent all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:42 AM
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Exactly! If I could redo my original post I think I would include something about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:22 AM
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I’m sorry that that’s been your experience. For what it’s worth, I do think there are some unique challenges facing men in the 21st century that mainstream society presently has no answer to. Still not a reason to be a misogynist though. Men’s problems are mostly the result of capitalism, so blaming women is missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:21 AM
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Straw man
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:19 AM
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Nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:18 AM
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Lmao exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:07 AM
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Well at least we agree on one thing, that gender is mostly socially constructed. Good for us! I don’t really know how to reply to the rest of this because I don’t really see any arguments, just broad generalizations that seem to be targeted at an audience that already agrees with you and disagrees with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:04 AM
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Okay, so accept the self help advice and reject the pseudoscientific nonsense about women. Sound good?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:02 AM
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Women will never be attracted to a man who isn’t a misogynist? And I think plenty of women are aware than men are on average stronger.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:01 AM
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I don’t think blue pill men believe all women are perfect. In my original post I listed a number of negative behaviors that men and women both engage in. Blue pill also doesn’t believe that just being nice attracts women. We believe that a basic level of human kindness and empathy is the bare minimum. You still have to be attractive in order to attract someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:42 AM
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Even though you halfway made the best possible argument, it’s still wrong. You don’t need misogyny in order to decide that you want to date casually. I don’t know who Eddie Hall is, I’m assuming an actor? Why is your example two celebrities? My argument is that men and women are alike in more ways than they are different. Sometimes the criteria they use to select a mate are different, but often there are clear parallels. Men and women both want a partner who is hot and nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:40 AM
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Yes! Obviously!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:18 AM
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Women ☕️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:18 AM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:10 AM
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I mean this is what the moderators of your subreddit think are an important representation of your ideology. How many of these statements do you personally disagree with?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:08 AM
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I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:01 AM
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But it’s in the sidebar. That means the mods found it very important. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:01 AM
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Examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:00 AM
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From my original post, copied directly from the red pill sidebar: “Women are depreciating assets, their major asset and unique selling point is their sexual beauty and fertility.” “Women are more selfish than men.” “Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved.” “Men believe that love matters for the sake of it. Women love opportunistically.” “Remember, women are children: mentally, behaviourally, evolutionarily. They are not like us. They don't think lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 02:00 AM
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I’m assuming your argument about fashion is that women care more about it than men on average. My retort is that this is socially constructed. Boys and girls are taught to value different things and are encouraged to spend time on different things. With that said, this is always changing. European high fashion is slowly making gains with American young men by paying rappers to wear their clothes. So it’s becoming more socially acceptable for young men to know and care about fashion. It’s all soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:58 AM
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See I think this is the best argument against my post, but you made it poorly. What supposedly sets the red pill apart from generic self help is that it relates specifically to sexual strategy. But your only examples are lifting and and acting confident? Come on bro, red pill does not have a monopoly on these things. Come up with some better examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:49 AM
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Trashy people having sex with other trashy people is not something to be jealous of. For a prison guard to be willing to fuck a prisoner they must have really low standards and some serious issues. Any data that an astronomically high number of women would gladly marry their ex if they could? This just sounds like a totally baseless assertion to me. I honestly don’t understand the last argument you made. Can you rephrase it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:39 AM
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I mean, it’s in the sidebar. That’s information that the moderators of the sub decided was so important that it needed to be permanently pinned.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:35 AM
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Like I said, if all you want is casual sex, good luck I guess. I think a lot of red pill men are lying to themselves though about wanting that because they think it makes them a big manly alpha. If you find that you would rather have a loving partner, you’ll have beliefs about women that will make that harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:34 AM
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Self love just means a positive self image. You’re making it more complicated than it needs to be. Someone who thinks they’re a piece of shit will give off bad vibes that repel women, whereas someone who thinks highly of themselves will not have that problem. My issue with red pill advice is not that it hurts women’s feelings. It’s that it’s wrong, and if you believe it you’ll have a harder time connecting with and relating to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:33 AM
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I didn’t write down where exactly I found it or anything but 100% of the quotes are from posts linked in the sidebar.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:22 AM
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Like what kind of traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:17 AM
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Very true, but I think you can still do that without that misogyny though. Saying “there may not be a THE ONE out there for you and that’s okay” sounds like generic self help advice. https://youtu.be/Z1epZXnss_I?si=l3_yora9jS96K3Wf
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:13 AM
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From my original post, copied word for word from the red pill sidebar: “Women are depreciating assets, their major asset and unique selling point is their sexual beauty and fertility.” “Women are more selfish than men.” “Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved.” “Men believe that love matters for the sake of it. Women love opportunistically.” “Remember, women are children: mentally, behaviourally, evolutionarily. They are not like us. They don't thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:12 AM
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Or maybe if you say something extremely degrading about women that’s misogynistic? Like women are are all selfish, childish, incapable of love, and only as valuable as their beauty and their uterus.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:11 AM
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I don’t think anyone has ever pressured men to be okay with their wife being a sex worker or being “subservient” to women. I agree that some young men find themselves confused, not understanding what they need to do to attract women. The thing is you can fill in these gaps in your knowledge without misogyny. If you really think women are basically a different species, I feel sorry for you. Men and women are basically the same in almost every way. There are slight differences, but they are exagge…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:09 AM
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So you’d be okay with misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:06 AM
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It gives you false confidence and fills your head with lies about women that make it harder for you to genuinely connect with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:52 AM
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Why not describe them minus the misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:52 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:51 AM
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Totally agree with the last sentence. Red pill teaches you how to attract toxic people. I don’t think a guy in prison impregnating prison guards is him slaying. I think it’s trashy people doing trashy things. Why would I feel jealous of a guy who’s in prison? Women’s preferences can change as they age, just like men. When someone is young, what reason is there to even consider how good a long term partner a person will be? Some people choose a really good partner at a young age, but a lot of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:50 AM
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What makes you say mainstream dating advice ever promoted simping? Supposed biological and psychological differences between men and women are a big part of how I think red pill leads men astray. I’m not saying there are NO differences between men and women, but they’re really overemphasized by red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:46 AM
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Bro women love a guy who showers
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:33 AM
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What exactly does the red pill do to “validate men’s experiences?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:25 AM
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What am I supposed to say to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:24 AM
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This is basically nothing but straw man arguments. Who is telling men to not work out, spend tons of money on women they barely know, and have no standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:21 AM
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I’d say it makes sense that the red pill can work sometimes since half of it is just generally good advice. Diet, gym, confidence, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:19 AM
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Very true, they represent themselves as the truth in a world of lies, hence the matrix metaphor. A solid strategy for any cult is to start by telling new members that everything is lying to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:16 AM
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It’s like a cult. First, introduce new members to the more agreeable tenants if your ideology (work out, practice talking to girls and feeling confident, buy some new clothes, etc.) once the new members are bought in THEN you start brainwashing them (all women are stupid evil bitches)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:08 AM
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Totally agree. It’s easy to generalize the opposite gender but it makes it harder to form genuine connections with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:07 AM
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Young males don’t have a significantly higher sexlessness rate than women. “In 2021, the survey found over 20 percent of males under 35 reported not having had sex in the past year, and 19 percent of females of the same age group” https://scholars.org/contribution/why-are-so-many-young-people-having-less-sex#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20the%20survey%20found,8%20and%207%20percent%2C%20respectively. Men regularly misrepresent what they want from women. Plenty of women don’t get attention from men despit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:01 AM
4

Very true. I’m surprised to see people tagging themselves as red pill anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:44 PM
1

I think the argument in the case of “weaponized incompetence” is that the women often has communicated what they want and the man isn’t responding to it.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 11:12 PM
1

You’re right. Here’s a better source: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/05/key-facts-about-womens-suffrage-around-the-world-a-century-after-u-s-ratified-19th-amendment/ You can nit pick an example or two but I think it’d insane to argue that not being allowed to vote doesn’t matter.
/r/MensRights08/06/24 04:40 AM
1

This is a bad take. Not a single country allowed women to vote until the late 1800s, less than 150 years ago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women%27s_suffrage
/r/MensRights08/06/24 04:23 AM
1

You use the word “supposedly” when describing patriarchy. I’m curious, do you think patriarchy is real or has ever been real? What do you make of women not being allowed to vote in the US until around 100 years ago?
/r/MensRights08/06/24 03:45 AM
0

See I just think that’s the problem with your ideology. You’re saying “this thing sucks, so let’s make it even worse for even more people!” That’s totally awful bro. The biggest complaint a lot of people, including me, have about men’s rights, is that groups like this one often spend more time ruminating in their hatred for women than actually considering real ways to make life better for men. Men being forced to kill for an ideology they may not even believe is absolutely cruel and wrong. Why i…
/r/MensRights08/06/24 02:32 AM
1

I agree. However, if a person is not willing to join the army, that means they’re not willing to do that. Some wars are for good causes, but a lot of them are just pointless bloodbaths. I’m sure there are plenty of conscripted Israeli soldiers right now who are seeing and hearing things that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. And for what?
/r/MensRights08/06/24 02:30 AM
3

All I’m saying is that just because a government throws the word “honor” in its draft doesn’t make it true
/r/MensRights07/06/24 11:02 PM
1

That’s some slick marketing for sure. What’s your point?
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:39 PM
0

Yes that’s correct. Selective services is putting your name down in case there’s a draft. They have my information in case they need to draft me, but they won’t. A draft in the US right now is not even within the realm of possibility right now. And if by some insane turn of events there is a draft, I’d rather go to prison or flee the country than join my county’s imperialist war machine, and many men would feel the same. The draft was extremely unpopular last time it was implemented, and I highl…
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:35 PM
3

I think feminists aren’t arguing that biology doesn’t matter, they argue that perceived differences between men and women are mostly socially constructed and not based in reality. Some differences are obviously real, but many are not. I’d say that volunteering is about taking pride and honor in your country, or in the United States, drinking the kool aid and joining a blood soaked global imperialist war machine, but that’s besides the point. Volunteering for the army is a decision a person can m…
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:33 PM
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No one should be forced to go to war. That’s called progress. This movement is too focused on tit for tat bullshit with women. Abolishing the draft would be better for everyone.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:29 PM
0

This guy gets it!
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:27 PM
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There’s no political incentive right now because there hasn’t been a draft in the United States in over 50 years
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:26 PM
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I think there’s a lot of reasons the present day is unlike the early 20th century, the main one being the existence of nuclear weapons. Again, great power conflict has been basically nonexistent for the past 80 years. This was not the case leading up to the world wars. True, I was thinking too much about the country in which I live and not the rest of the world, something us muricans are often guilty of. I would say that every country should abolish their draft. Forcing someone to kill or be kil…
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:26 PM
0

Or no one should be forced to join the army?
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:00 PM
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See this is the problem I have with your argument. We both agree that war is hell, so why would you want to subject even more people to that reality? The answer to the draft is to abolish it, not force women to join.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 10:00 PM
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The US will not declare war on a country with nuclear weapons i.e. Russia or China. Ukraine has been a proxy war for a long time now and committing US troops is something that no US president will be willing to do. The same is true for Taiwan with the added caveat that China invading looks very unlikely at this time. I think feminists aren’t talking about the draft because it isn’t really an important issue. Like I said, there hasn’t been a draft in this country since 1973, and it was extremely …
/r/MensRights07/06/24 09:58 PM
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You believe that women are on average stronger and men can become pregnant?
/r/MensRights07/06/24 08:31 PM
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I agree that conscripted military service is wrong, but I think it has little to do with privileging women. Historically, more men than women have been soldiers for two reasons: 1). Men are, on average, bigger and stronger then women. This makes us more effective at killing each other. 2). From a really cynical perspective, women birth children. So if a country is going to lose a chunk of its population, that loss can be recovered faster after losing men than women. This doesn’t make it right, o…
/r/MensRights07/06/24 07:56 PM
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What makes you think the US is going to war anytime soon? There hasn’t been a draft since 1973. Hundreds of thousands illegally evaded it and were eventually pardoned. I think you make a fair point about required conscripted military service being unethical, but I think the solution is to abolish the practice entirely rather than forcing women to do it as well.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 07:37 PM
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Right well signing up for the selective services is not the same as joining the army. I know that people in this sub really hate that men can get drafted and women can’t but I think the solution is just not having drafts.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 01:14 PM
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I mean just because you don’t think it’s funny doesn’t mean other people don’t either
/r/MensRights07/06/24 01:00 PM
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Apparently you don’t because you’re doing it right now!
/r/MensRights07/06/24 01:00 PM
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Bro you’re hilarious. My evidence is that it looks different than it did when I originally replied to it, namely you removed the statement that was demonstrably false. I don’t have a screenshot or anything so I guess you got me there but I know you changed it, you know that you changed it, I know that you know that you changed it, and I know that you know that I know that you changed it.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:57 PM
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Lmao whatever you say bro
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:51 PM
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Women’s suffrage was a movement in the United States from 1840 - 1920. Almost 100 years. Women have always worked on family farms, and many of them worked in factories after the Industrial Revolution. And serving in the military has never been a requirement for voting, at least in the United States.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:50 PM
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It’s a joke. You do know that Kill All Men is a joke, right?
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:47 PM
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I dunno, why is banning slavery a recent phenomenon? Is it because people enjoyed being slaves?
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:45 PM
2

You edited your reply
/r/MensRights07/06/24 12:44 PM
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“An analysis of 429 mammalian species published in Nature Communications reveals that just 45 percent feature males that are larger than females. Nearly an equal number of species, 39 percent, have sexes that are about the same size. And in 16 percent of species, females are larger than males.” https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/males-arent-larger-than-females-in-most-mammal-species/ 45%. So a plurality but not a majority.
/r/MensRights07/06/24 01:46 AM
0

I mean I get that you’re describing a star man argument of some sort but I do not understand what it is. You’re implying that you know exactly what my beliefs are, which is wrong, so I don’t understand the fill in the blank style argument you’re making.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 10:20 PM
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I don’t really get what you’re saying here but are you accusing me of being a troll for suggesting that feminists don’t want to genocide 80% of all men?
/r/MensRights06/06/24 10:15 PM
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In the majority of households, both spouses work. In a situation like that, I think both partners should always try to contribute equally to household chores.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 09:02 PM
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Bro this is not a healthy opinion. If you want men’s rights to be taken seriously, this sub needs to spend less time hating women.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 09:02 PM
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Bro there are TONS of animal species where the females are larger and stronger. Not all of them, but plenty.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:47 PM
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I think women can have misogynistic beliefs. Most feminists would not argue that all women are perfect. As far as “why have women never revolted,” great strides have been made in the last 100 years or so to give women the right to vote, work, have a bank account, get a divorce, etc.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:46 PM
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Couldn’t the same logic be applied to any movement?
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:44 PM
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So you’re saying that the average feminist would gladly murder several billion people?
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:41 PM
1

My only disagreement with this is that a lot of car repair requires tools and parts and expertise that the average person does not have access to. Though I agree that learning how to fix your car is a good way to save money. I just don’t think this really compares to the daily work of maintaining a household, especially one with children in it. The complaint I hear from feminists is that in a lot of relationships it’s the woman doing far more than half of the daily household chores.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 08:40 PM
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I really don’t think the average feminist wants men murdered.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 06:48 PM
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Nice angry rant about women, bro. It sounds like you’d be better off just never ever interacting with women at all since you’ve clearly determined that they’ve all had their brains poisoned by feminism.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 02:28 PM
1

What?
/r/MensRights06/06/24 12:54 PM
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Changing oil is done once every few thousand miles, and I have never known someone who fixed a leak in their own roof. Your answer to DAILY chores is a short list of chores that happen almost never.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 12:53 PM
1

This is a really confusing reply. I do not think cleaning and having sex are at all the same for multiple reasons.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 12:51 PM
1

Here’s a study on the division of chores in a house where both spouses work: https://www.npr.org/2023/04/13/1168961388/pew-earnings-gender-wage-gap-housework-chores-child-care As far as mowing vs doing the dishes, I think this is pointless minutia. If your claim is that mowing the lawn is oppressive to men because it’s hot outside, I think you need a better argument. If you’d rather vacuum in the AC, that’s your preference, but I’d rather mow than do almost any other chore, so your preference is…
/r/MensRights06/06/24 12:48 PM
1

Where is this number from?
/r/MensRights06/06/24 01:28 AM
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I see a lot of assertions in this reply with zero evidence. I think if one partner works and the other does not, it’s reasonable to expect that the partner who does not work will do more household chores. My understanding of this issue is that it’s women who DO work that often complain about still doing more household chores than their partner. I’ve perused google for a study that women overestimate the time they spend doing unpaid labor and cannot find anything. Do you have any suggestions? As …
/r/MensRights06/06/24 12:15 AM
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I will concede that I have seen more men mowing the lawn than women. However, almost everyone I know takes their car to a shop for repair, and taking out the trash takes less than a minute. I don’t really see how that’s comparable to cooking and cleaning, a daily chore that can take an hour or more.
/r/MensRights06/06/24 12:07 AM
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How many people actually do maintenance on their house or car vs. just calling someone? Chores like cooking and cleaning need to be done daily, whereas car repair is very infrequent.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:48 PM
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I think the “load” is more applicable in a household with multiple people including children. That’s much harder than just cleaning up after one person.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:46 PM
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That’s because none of these things are emotional labor. They’re physical labor, for sure, but so is cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping, laundry, etc. Also, mowing the lawn needs to be done like once per week, car maintenance is infrequent, and a lot of people don’t know how to do that anyway and just take it to a shop, and fixing the roof is done, what, once every couple of decades? How many men are really fixing their own roof by hand? Bottom line, it’s important to contribute in a household …
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:44 PM
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Bro the vast majority of women have a job. The problem in the 21st century is that in most households both spouses are working full time yet the woman is still doing way more household chores.
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:40 PM
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For the life of me I cannot understand why this person is getting downvoted. Lots of women have experienced always doing way more basics household chores than their husbands on a consistent basis. I know my mom certainly did laps around my dad when it came to cooking, cleaning dishes, sweeping, mopping, laundry, etc. Guys, these are basic adult skills that are necessary if you don’t want to live in a filthy home. The fact that this person is getting downvoted for suggesting that a good spouse sh…
/r/MensRights05/06/24 07:38 PM
1

What?
/r/MensRights25/05/24 02:57 PM
1

All I’m saying is that modernity is good for men, all things considered. Fewer of us are being forced to kill each other.
/r/MensRights25/05/24 02:39 PM
1

Not quite sure what you mean by this
/r/MensRights24/05/24 11:16 PM
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I dunno, a lot of veterans in all periods of history have been given very little help to adjust to civilian life, recover from physical injuries and overcome trauma. Leaving someone on their own to deal with physical injuries and PTSD while quite possibly being homeless doesn’t really sound like respecting and revering them as a hero.
/r/MensRights24/05/24 08:25 PM
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100 years ago nearly 10 million young men had recently died in a war, and we were only a few years away from another war in which around 20 million men would be killed. I don’t think men are MORE disposable now than they were historically when the wealthy and powerful would conscript young men and lead them to their death. Also, Boy Scouts started allowing girls to join in a desperate attempt to save the organization after they went bankrupt from lawsuits. I’m not sure I agree with their decisio…
/r/MensRights24/05/24 02:31 PM
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Most people don't work on farms anymore, and haven't for over a hundred years. So for the vast majority of families, there's nothing their child can do to contribute to the family income. I agree that kids can do their own chores, but that has nothing to do with the cost of raising a child. Nothing you said is an answer to my basic point that raising a child in the 21st century is expensive. Maybe it didn't used to be, but that's not really relevant. Most kids today live in an urban or sub urban…
/r/MensRights20/05/24 11:32 PM
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I genuinely hope it’s not that working every day is better for a small child and for society than sending the child to school.
/r/MensRights19/05/24 09:59 PM
1

I don’t disagree with that but paternity fraud is exceedingly rare. Still, I don’t disagree, if it’s not your child biologically you shouldn’t be on the hook.
/r/MensRights14/05/24 09:45 PM
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Are we really just entirely unwilling to believe that the protestors genuinely feel strongly about this issue? That they’re protesting because they’re horrified that American dollars are being spent to blow up neighborhoods and murder entire families?
/r/MensRights14/05/24 03:05 PM
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“Less than 6.0% (about 2 million) of all fathers of minor children are “solo” dads but 20.2% (about 7 million) are “absent” dads of all of their minor children.” - census.gov
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:59 PM
1

Troll
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:56 PM
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I would argue that was a bad thing! If you create a life, you’re responsible for helping to take care of it!
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:56 PM
1

You’re right. What’s your point though?
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:55 PM
0

Jesus dude. This is why I’m really disappointed by this sub. Men benefit from easier access to medicine and education!!! What point are you even trying to make by saying this?
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:54 PM
2

Not if they just up and left
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:52 PM
1

Okay, what point are you trying to make by saying that?
/r/MensRights14/05/24 02:52 PM
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Regardless of the specific number, I think it’s kind of insane to argue that raising and feeding and clothing a human being for 18 years isn’t extremely expensive. Is that really an argument you’re going to defend?
/r/MensRights13/05/24 07:05 PM
3

Are you asking if I have a source that lots of children have been raised in fatherless households and that this places a tremendous burden on the mother?
/r/MensRights13/05/24 07:01 PM
8

Feeding and clothing someone for 18 years didn’t used to be expensive?
/r/MensRights13/05/24 07:00 PM
3

“Statistics from the Brookings Institution, an economic think tank, show that the average middle-income family with two children will spend $310,605 to raise a child born in 2015 up to age 17 in 2032.” - investopedia
/r/MensRights13/05/24 04:41 PM
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Children are cheap?
/r/MensRights13/05/24 04:13 PM
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Raising a child is expensive. Throughout history, Countless woman and children (half of whom are boys, obviously) have been left destitute by absentee fathers. If you create a life, the very least you can do is help pay for it to survive to adulthood.
/r/MensRights13/05/24 04:05 PM
1

You’re right, I’m focusing too hard on guys in the internet. True that there are actual experts in the field doing actual research. Thank you for that reminder!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:15 PM
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Observing birds using their beak to open nuts is far simpler than observing men and women responding to genetics, sure, but also social expectations, capitalism, and free will. In general, I think that’s a huge problem with evolutionary psychology. There are so many factors influencing the behavior of modern humans. To suggest that you can narrow it down to one seems reductive. By this logic, we shouldn’t be shocked or horrified by people committing infanticide. There are so many behaviors that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:53 AM
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If it “helps you understand” something, that’s supposedly a benefit of that field of study. The problem with evolutionary psychology is that it doesn’t really help you under anything. It helps you feel like a scientist while you make up unverifiable explanations for human behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:47 AM
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Are we just talking about women in this sub Reddit? Not really a representative sample of the human experience. I don’t see how that’s a response to the point that lots of women face really difficult choices about what to do with an unwanted pregnancy or child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:45 AM
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In the case of Darwin’s finches, he observed their behavior in nature. i.e. how the birds used their beaks. What evidence is evolutionary psychology based on? Also, why haven’t we talked about the second or fourth argument I made in my initial reply to this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:41 AM
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Uh bro lots of women don’t have access to abortion and end up with babies they didn’t want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:34 AM
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Evolutionary psychology is certainly less verifiable than the origin for other traits. You can examine the fossil record and compare it with what we know about the environment that organism lived in (climate, available food, predators, etc.) in order to form a hypothesis about the origin of a physical trait or the emergence of a new species. When it comes to male vs female human behavior, it’s more like “well this kind of reminds me of how some animals act so it must be evolution.” Definitely no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:31 AM
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A few things come to mind: 1). Just because something can be theoretically explained as a product of evolution doesn’t mean it’s true. “Evolutionary psychology” is usually totally unverifiable. It’s just not scientific at all. EDIT: I’m referring here to the way influencers talk about evolutionary psychology, not actual scientists. I’ve been reminded that it is a real field of science with real experts, however, these are not the people posting about it on Reddit. 2). Just because something is p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:59 AM
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You’re less likely to be raped than a woman is, though. The point of the hypothetical is that men make women feel unsafe. Like a bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:51 PM
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Yes that’s my point. Even though they’re probably not going to hurt you, they’re still very scary. Just like a male stranger can be to a lone woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:49 PM
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Haha you silly goose!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:49 PM
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A mother bear can be more likely to attack someone but it’s still not very common, especially when people keep a respectful distance. Not sure how to answer your second point. As far as I know, if a bear attacks you, you’re better off curling up in a ball to defend your vital organs than fighting the bear. Unless you have a really powerful gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:48 PM
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The question is by nature hypothetical. No woman will ever get to choose to summon either a man or a bear. It doesn’t make their answer any less real, though. They’re choosing between two hypothetical situations to demonstrate how they feel about something. Metaphor may not be the right word, though. What I’m trying to say is that your comment that people would answer differently if it was about black people basically sounds to me like “well if the question was different people would feel differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:45 PM
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In America, the national park service keeps a list of people who have gone missing in the national parks with no explanation, i.e. cold cases. There are less than 30 people on this list, with the earliest one having gone missing in 1953.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:41 PM
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It’s really just a metaphor, so if the metaphor were used to describe a different situation, it would carry a different meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:37 PM
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Are you suggesting that in the 21st century there are lots of people being killed and eaten by bears without anyone noticing that they’ve completely disappeared?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:35 PM
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I think it does well in algorithms because it’s slightly inflammatory but I think it’s also a good way for men to imagine what it can sometimes feel like to be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:35 PM
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I’m not really sure what you’re getting at here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:33 PM
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Yes, not sure what you’re getting at though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:33 PM
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Bro I’m sorry but you are just strait up wrong about how dangerous bears are. The women who would rather encounter a bear are pretty much objectively correct. Here’s my take as a lifelong amateur outdoorsman: I did Boy Scouts when I was a kid. Boy Scouts was VERY concerned with safety. At summer camp, I was never allowed to swim without an assigned “buddy” even though the pool had lifeguards. I had to get a license to carry a pocket knife or start a fire. One adult and one boy were never allowed…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:37 PM
1

I’m pretty sure no one who says “high value men” has ever had sex. Maybe I’m wrong and you’re the one guy who thinks this way and actually is successful but tbh to me you sound like an incel trying to impersonate a “Chad.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:13 PM
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Really it’s just one thing which is quit being an asshole lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:08 PM
2

Jesus man your attitude is awful, you gotta stop talking to women like this if you ever wanna get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 09:05 PM
1

Do you think that’s because women like sex less or because most men don’t know or care how to give them the sex they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:44 PM
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I’m sorry but my overseers are telling me that you’re probably an incel and it wouldn’t be politically correct to keep responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 08:03 PM
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Oh no I don’t think, I let women with buzz cuts and eyebrow piercings decide all of my opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:24 PM
1

I don’t think that was very clever either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:14 PM
1

I don’t think that was a clever retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:04 PM
1

I’m not really sure what you’re asking, are you claiming you’re not bellyaching?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 07:01 PM
1

Which post?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:49 PM
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You’re not wrong think bro but men bellyaching about their lack of success with women is not the kind of feedback I’m looking for and tbh it seems like you have an attitude problem when it comes to women that you should consider examining.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:43 PM
1

Hey man I’m like one profanity laced reply away from agreeing with you, do you think you could come up with like 3-5 more names to call me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:40 PM
1

While that’s true I reject the notion that we simply are monkeys. We have higher level thinking and societies designed to check our worst tendencies (not necessarily choosiness in mating).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:39 PM
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Lmao bro I can tell based on how you’re talking to me that you’re really bitter and rude. If everyone “loves to agree” with a certain assessment of you as a person, is it maybe possible that that’s because it’s true?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:36 PM
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So it has to do with the risks involved in being alone with a man, letting him get to know you etc.? (Which are distinctly different than the resource calculations that go into deciding to try to have babies, calm down “women are just moneys” people.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:35 PM
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See now THIS is the kind of reply I’m looking for. Doesn’t have to agree with me but add something constructive. Can you elaborate a little bit? Are you saying men don’t understand what women want or how to have a meaningful relationship with a woman, or even just talk to her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:32 PM
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How likely is it that women would, if they feel this way, honestly say that their attraction is based on factors that cannot be changed? I mean I hope it’s likely, if not then I guess I’m out of luck but I want to hear from women, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:31 PM
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Yet another reason I’m suspicious 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:29 PM
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You sound kinda like the type of man I described who develops a bitter outlook on dating that probably plays some role in preventing women from liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:27 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:12 PM
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I’m realizing this was the wrong subreddit for this question, or maybe the wrong flare. I really mostly want to hear from women, and instead I’m having conversations with red pill dudes about monkeys. If your reply isn’t relevant to my question, which is “is effort into appearance a determining factor in you, a woman’s attraction to a man,” I probably will not reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:12 PM
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Hey man good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:09 PM
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I’m speaking just in terms of seeing someone and the judgement you make as to whether or not that person is physically attractive. Am I thinking about this the wrong way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 06:09 PM
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I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say but I’m becoming disinterested in your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:58 PM
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I don’t know what a bloop is but it’s becoming clear that you’re not really the kind of person I’m trying to hear from. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:55 PM
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I don’t think you’re really addressing my post, especially considering the fact that I answered said question in the very next sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:53 PM
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I think pasting a bunch of studies about apes doesn’t really prove anything, and I think that “evolutionary psychology” is often a ruse for making untestable assertions about humans (usually women) without critically examining the role of socialization. This post is based on, among other things, the assumption that women want sex and relationships about as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:51 PM
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I’m really mostly trying to hear from women (hopefully) on this post, which I’m starting to think you are not. And Where beauty standards come from is an interesting question but not really what I’m getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:49 PM
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See that’s where I think you’re wrong, a woman’s version of “not trying” is not the same as a man’s. Most women try at least a little bit to take care of themselves. I think the floor is higher for women when it comes to maintaining their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:47 PM
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A mate who is also attractive and is genuinely attracted to them rather than just settling, I think?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:45 PM
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Are you actually a woman? I’ve never heard a woman say anything like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/20 05:44 PM
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