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Yeah they really don't give a fuck what men want at all. They can literally never be wrong in their mind. If men were being tortured for no reason and it somehow mildly benefited women, they wouldn't give a fuck. They would say "that's not happening" and that would be that. They would actually get morally outraged at you for suggesting they care. They're that solipsistic. It's that bad. And the best part is you can't do ANYTHING about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:46 AM
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Whoah.. What a big brain you have. Doubtless such a big and powerful brain as yours can only be the product of such a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 12:23 PM
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I think men are so different and come in such a wide variety it's a mistake to attribute literally anything as a generalization. Men who disagree with this are simply unaware.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 08:21 AM
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Yeah, It kind of forces your hand. Nothing you can do but withdraw.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:34 AM
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Retard post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 03:08 AM
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You're using some weird big brother volunteer youth society most men have no interest in as your evidence they don't like to help each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:34 AM
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An army of 10k clones genetically designed for war, communicating with each other, and no fear of death could conquer the planet easily. All military tech alone does is make it impossible for any reasonable man to want to fight in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 03:07 PM
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Shocked your conclusion is theres just nothing without even considering there might be things you are missing or arent aware of. Like youre not even capable of critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:41 PM
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You have no real way of knowing if the people left alive at the end of this are even capable of surviving. Most people alive now are dependent on very complex machinery and systems they dont understand. It might not be a case of: pop lowers > everyone lives better but rather: pop lowers > ones left starve and die out in a few hundred years
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:05 PM
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yeah no reason whatsoever. strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 07:16 AM
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I dont think about them. I think using your own male instinct is better than following some trad code. Especially since most of the trad stuff was just derived from instinct, but from a time that doesnt exist anymore, in which case the "trad" thing is often just being a dumbass slave to modern women for no actual reason but social pressure, which is not very masculine at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:27 AM
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I assume they all do at this point. The uglier ones might even be worse, hard to say. When women are a hivemind that marches in lockstep, it's just what happens. At the mercy of whatever their current zeitgeist is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 04:46 AM
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Its ogre
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:53 PM
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Monkey branching. You are describing monkey branching.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 01:22 PM
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Yeah, its obvious. It's always been what succeeds is dependent on environment. Rugged 1920s man would be depressed, alone, alcoholic, in jail today. In fact I think any man typically idolized would be depressed today. Its self evident if you actually understand what makes men do great things. We supress so much struggle and conflict, which is what that type lived for. Makes people uncomfortable for obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 07:10 PM
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Maybe the reason it's being assumed is because they effectively are the same as men for all intents and purposes. Like maybe men are using their instincts and acting accordingly, but it's this completely pozzed society obsessed with pussy worship that tells them to doubt them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:51 PM
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There is a moral high ground, but it's specific to this post itself, which is trying to shame men for a natural preference they have for good reason. Or perhaps denying it's even a real thing I guess? Maybe you think all men are just lying or something. You're essentially trying to gaslight men into thinking their totally reasonable preference they were born with is some unfair discrimination. It's actually really fucked up, but not the least bit surprised. None of you actually care about fairne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:04 PM
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Ok its insecurity. Doesn't change anything. practical, justified insecurity. Its also insecurity guys dont want to be in polygamous relationships. Or let their gf fuck other guys. This is groundbreaking stuff. Women really pioneering relationships in bold new directions with these incredible ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:42 AM
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Its like fat chicks. Depends what you mean by shame I guess. Just sounds like you want to police what guys like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:35 AM
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You people are barely even sentient. I swear it's like talking to a bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:12 AM
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I'm a handsome young man. Looks don't actually matter, apparently I'm the only one who actually believes this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:25 AM
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This just tells me you gloss over any of the quality insight posts, while fixating on the re.tards. Nothing I can do to help you there. Though I see the appeal in focusing on the re.tards, since it allows you to conveniently place all blame on men, while you get to feel both superior and a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:15 AM
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Not to say it's all on women, Men have their own problems, it just doesn't matter when it's only one side that ever does any self reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:21 PM
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The truth is its actually women who are in the wrong. And its because of this that nothing will ever be fixed, because we dont actually have any way to fix or correct their behavior. The fact men have pointed out the issues detail by excruciating detail for 5 years straight, yet have literally 0 of it get through womens heads, but also STILL blame men entirely with asinine posts like this is probably the most revealing look men have ever had into the way womens minds operate. Unironically think …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:08 PM
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Obviously. Pointing it out like this as if its not self evident is admitting defeat though. Its so explicitly obvious, even suggesting women dont realize what they're doing just sets a really shitty precedent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:07 PM
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Men becoming powerless slaves is the inevitable conclusion of capitalism with a police state where women can vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:23 PM
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That is really all men are good for in this current environment. Women's perspective is flawed in that they automatically assume that the woman here is the prize and the man who gets chosen is lucky to be with her. But when women are totally independent with endless options and no selection pressures, their demands and expectations start increasing while she doesnt actually offer anything more in return. She probably offers even less and is more insufferable, seeing the way womens favorite talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:35 AM
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Downhill freight train
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:17 AM
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It already happens. Sex drive is use it or lose it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:44 PM
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The two things are so fundamentally at odds and counterfactual, I dont understand the reaction is to go "this is an accurate picture, men are worse than I thought". It has to be either confirmation bias to what you wanted to believe already, or people have just lost the ability to think critically.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 11:20 AM
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Yes, for human problems, it works best to talk to them directly like a human instead of autistically referencing some useless broad and abstract bugman """study""" that doesn't control for the people self reporting being completely retarded regarding self awareness. But again, this would conflict with your primary goal of stroking yourself off on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 11:10 AM
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My point is I think you're retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:21 PM
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You can ask them. Its very intuitive and obviously the case, but that would require actually giving a fuck about them, and wanting to actually help instead of stroking yourself off over how you didnt face similar issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:13 PM
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Oh yeah, the sexless nerd guy who has no female friends, yet views women as pussies to fuck and status symbols. This is a thing that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:06 PM
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This is a problem that will never be solved because women benefit from surplus men. It would also be damaging to their ego to admit the upper hand they hold currently is largely a result of raw numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:09 PM
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Hard to see with all the posturing going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:08 AM
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Can also have the effect of throwing a wrench into the plans of someone who was on track to being successful, but made the mistake of reading it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:02 PM
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The real men who adapted realized it was a shit test on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 11:35 AM
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The way women use language today is fucking gross. insidious really. All intended to deprive while maintaining victim status.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:03 PM
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Reason to live crisis.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:58 PM
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If it was worth it they would do it. At this point everyone's just spinning up their own rationalizations for why in ways portraying themselves as less at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:31 PM
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If being kind, supportive, or emotionally present is too much Yep. This is what men are taking issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:49 PM
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fighting really hard against the idea of being likeable, supportive partners Yeah that's what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:36 PM
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Lol women are so cooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:31 PM
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War looks stupid when your society loses the ability to attribute meaning to anything. Though, idk if even having a meaningful cause could make getting drone striked by some guy on an ipad 5000m away not look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:17 AM
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Fee is $20 for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:54 PM
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Sad is reading this reddit goop person cheerleader comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:57 PM
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Men at least have the tax distribution angle if they wanted to make an accountability argument. But yes, you could say it about any group. Society collectively decides which ones are worth caring about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:54 PM
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Accepting applications now, ladies. $5 application fee required.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:46 PM
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This is kind of obvious when you understand nobody actually gives a fuck about men. If this is surprising to you, you are still overestimating how much value society places in individual men. Pretty much a negative value fundamentally. To be expected in a fully feminized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:02 AM
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They are, the only reason women don't lead is their solipsistic tendencies provide very little in the way of inspiration. Kind of a dead end. It's why they typically turned to a god or some other cause greater than themselves for inspiration to do pretty much anything interesting in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 01:09 AM
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Men either have what they need and are thus content, or they dont have what they need and nobody gives a fuck. How does accountability fit in here? Are you mad at the rattling of chains?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:03 PM
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Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:17 PM
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Thats very good actually, happy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 11:21 AM
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Should try building yourselves into being likable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:56 AM
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Its actually very logical. Men understand women are the choosers. Nature has gifted women in this regard, and it puts them in the position to determine some kind of value of men (which may or may not align with men's value of men). If we assume a women have an easier time getting dick, you now have a choosers, who are at a dick buffet and every dick she takes is like an indirect insult to the man who she eventually settles for. Its worse because on top of that, men typically have to peacock and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 11:14 AM
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Oh yeah that was just a little side comment. I think the talk of "loneliness" in general is largely the result of an asymmetry in info caused by guys not getting a shot to gain experience to understand what they want. Think people are leveraging the fuck out of this imbalance since you can easily use it to paint dudes as predators or abusers or just malign them in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 02:06 PM
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said men and women acting the same, not man acting like woman, the woman could also adapt the mand behaviour for this to be accurate Idk what you mean here. one doesn't need many friends to be less lonely so even if it requires more effort initially to find friends that is not really a good reason to not have any at all Who said anything about loneliness? Socializing is inherently more effort and less rewarding as a man, so you don't develop the strong affinity for it women seem to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 10:22 AM
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Uhh, yeah. This is a "sky is blue" tier observation from the male perspective. this lies at the root of why men have a tendency to become hermits. On the same note if a man acted the same way women do towards other men, he would have his head caved in in very short order.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 01:19 AM
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Benefits them at the cost of people that aren't them. Oops I guess that's what happens when your only values stem from capitalism and market dynamics. Guess we just have to learn to live in toilet world now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 11:07 PM
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Its possible assuming men and women's ideas for happiness are the same is a mistake. Might not even be remotely compatible. Women's happiness seems to be inversely correlated with men's.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 10:07 PM
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Empathy period. As In being able to understand what others are feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:14 AM
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Once again I find myself in awe at the female minds capacity for empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:27 PM
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Anyone who believes this is subhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:36 PM
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Family and wife are just the final ones being stripped away after religion, nationalism, or any other kind of structure that provided some sense of belonging to something greater have all been disintegrated to the point our lives are completely meaningless and empty and kind of like hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 04:52 AM
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I dont think men have changed. Men have always gone where they felt needed. They just arent anymore. All the masculine jobs have been done. Unless being a "man" is working a 9-5 office job, consuming media, and socializing like a woman now. Yup. I can totally see Alexander the great doing that. Youre just like Alexander when you drive over to the temple of steel and lift heavy objects for pure vanity 3 times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:53 AM
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There's really nothing drawing men and women together when both are independent and value convenience over having kids. Men feel they're paying more because 9/10 times they're the ones who have to appeal to feminine interests they may have zero or negative interest in themselves independently due to nature and demand. Except for raw sexual attraction ofc, hence all the lookism stuff. It's kind of like if you imagined men demanding women become well versed in warhammer 40k lore on top of everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:25 PM
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It is low as far as they are concerned. They are completely self-contained. Why take someone into your life who doesn't improve it? Totally logical from their pov. Clown world.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:57 PM
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The difference is men have the inherent biological constraint of actually needing and liking women. Men can't ever walk away and live contently on their own the way women do if they dont like the market. Whether or not they believe it doesn't matter. It's why the dynamic works a lot better the other way around. Without the constraint anchoring women to men they can demand anything. Race to the bottom. The old way would require high trust which is just lol at this point, so race to the bottom it …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:41 PM
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There's really no incentive to. It's always a race to the bottom between men tolerating awful behavior because women are the ones in demand. It can go on forever. Women don't even have to live in reality , necessarily. They can agree on a consensus of reality that is flattering to them, then present it as how things are. Women all agree because it benefits them, and men will literally race to the bottom confirming it. Shame tactics on people who dispute the shared fantasy. There's no limits to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:15 AM
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Goes both ways. Nobody needs each other. Nobody owes anyone anything. Not like women give a shit about mens lives either, they love reminding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:18 AM
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Becomes a race to the bottom for accommodating/simping because of sex drive and women almost always having more social power and ingroup bias. Women tend to police tone, language, and discussion on things they don't like. When they dislike someone they tend to campaign to get them excluded or turn others against . once they start doing that there's a strangling effect on the space. Cliques form. It becomes a useless space and loses all appeal. Where before you could speak your mind freely, now t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:38 PM
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Relationships increasingly resemble something like a luxury job. That you do on top of your actual job. That will most likely fail. They're not tenable for a growing number. Easier to live alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 04:24 AM
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I love women. They are so great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:45 PM
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Already in the mill friend
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:46 AM
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Ok dude, forget I said surplus male. I didn't know it had this much baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:27 PM
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There is in certain demographics. Doesn't matter anyway, it all increases scarcity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:11 PM
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Scarcity. Less surplus men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:48 PM
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Spitballing here, but it'd increase their base value.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:46 PM
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Think the only way it gets better without retvrning and rolling back is to start terminating like 1/3 of male fetuses. It's almost like a pointless torture mill now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:42 PM
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It's about as dignified an existance as a slave
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:47 PM
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The unseen and unappreciated men upholding the system that sets up the conditions for women to view them as "not needed".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:39 PM
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Well you're setting up the incentive for them to burn it all down. Why continue supporting a system that treats you like a slave?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:31 PM
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Well this illustrates one of the big issues men face now. The state took over a lot of the responsibilities individual men used to have that made them feel needed and valued. It took generations of men to build the system up to where this is possible, but it's backfired. They're still the ones primarily responsible for upholding it for now, but not in any clearly appreciable way by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:00 AM
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You're implying they're even negatives at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:20 PM
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Honestly don't care. Caring about a woman's social network is the gayest thing I've ever read on here. It has nothing to do with what I can afford to care about. Eating fast food isnt remarkable for a 20-something. Laziness is the only real con, but it's offset by the rest. If anything the woman being described is a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:15 PM
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Most don't chase anyone. It isn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 08:37 AM
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This is essentially it. It fucking sucks to be that guy, and it only sucks for men, therefore women don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 12:08 PM
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I imagine it'd be a world that was colder, harder, with less safety nets. More in touch with the harsh reality of nature and thus more appreciative of practical physical skills and strength. Men in these conditions just naturally become more attractive to women without even having to think about it. Our grandparents didn't think about any of this shit. And even if a guy does still fail to get a gf in that world, it's probably a lot more dignified than it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:18 PM
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Yawn
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 11:00 PM
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I think it creates an environment that is less restricting on men's ability to express their masculinity in healthy ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:52 PM
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Turns out building better societies causes women to take men for granted and abandon them. Ironically the way forward for men is in dismantling society rather than continuing the drive towards utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:40 PM
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Blackpilled motto is "it's over"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 10:32 PM
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With one simple trick, watch how this woman escapes ever having to exhibit empathy! Men hate her!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 06:51 PM
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Its clear you have a great attitude seeing as how one of your main hobbies is punching down on depressed and struggling dudes online. You go queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 05:48 PM
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If porn were having that large an effect, guys would just quit porn. It doesn't help to be certain, but the problem is a lot bigger
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:30 AM
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Weird how guys seem to get so lonely and depressed they off themselves when apparently their brain is telling them they're a sex god fucking models every night. Strange how guys still even desire gfs at all when they can just wack it every night.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:09 AM
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Guys don't see porn or jacking it that way. Wish it were that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:04 AM
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Idk about any of that, but expressing disinterest towards women specifically is the main cope guys use when their self esteem is so low they don't feel they should even bother trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:57 AM
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It is incredibly common. I wouldn't be surprised if it effects up to half of gen z dudes to some extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 06:45 AM
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Natural selection applies to animals living in the natural world not humans that live in cities and nation states governed by laws restricting all use of force.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:54 PM
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My bad for thinking your anecdote was supposed to demonstrate some actual larger point. I guess it really was just meaningless crackhead babble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:21 AM
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Been in the trades 7 years and it's rare to be on a jobsite with more than 1 woman. 25% is a crackhead tier whacky claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 03:34 AM
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You guys are really clinging onto this spiderman guy example for dear life while avoiding the actual point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:48 PM
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I'm talking about people who do experience symptoms but don't realize it might be a result of low T. Specifically the symptoms involving low energy, depression, and mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 03:42 PM
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Ok that's why I said it's probably more than people realize, since getting their T levels checked isn't something guys normally do or even think about doing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:12 PM
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Hypothetically if someone were, you would agree it is unhealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:16 PM
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You think having low T is healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:52 AM
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I suspect lowered testosterone plays a larger part than most people realize. The symptoms of low T are practically a check list of every negative trait for attracting women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:34 AM
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Don't worry, OP is clearly only referring to men here. Man with no friends = bad person. Woman with no friends = neutral and has no bearing on their value or personality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:32 AM
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You're making the assumption that a guy being unattractive/invisible to women requires/means he must be unpleasant and weird, which isn't true at all. Takes far far less than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 02:32 AM
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Spiderman guy isn't really relevant aside from being an extreme example. Point was more about that guys "solutions" come down to being a different person
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 06:28 PM
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You're essentially telling guys to become an entirely different person, otherwise they aren't trying. Real life is not skyrim bro, you can't just reroll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:08 PM
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These two things do not contradict each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 03:11 PM
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From this thread we've seen the only two beauty standards men actually impose are shaving every now and then and not being obese. And women will still act like these two totally easy-to-achieve standards are unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 09:34 PM
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People at a neutral baseline can build behavioral and social skills. Not sure why you think I disagree. You need to build on your reading comprehension skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:30 PM
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Yes our innate proclivities give us an advantage, but acting as though the business world is perfectly full of exceptional naturals is absurd I agree. It's almost like I didn't say anything that implied that. It’s like you’re masturbating to the thought of doomed helplessness I dont think my view is that negative, It's just reality. Every man alive has gone through attempts to change or improve their personality to be more like someone they admire at one point or another and while you can improv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:56 PM
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Sales leads, business development execs, c-suite executives like CEOs, politicians, financiers, trial lawyers, etc. literally go to trainings, workshops, and professional guilds for these things. Youre right, the type of people who become sales leads and politicians learned to be witty, charming, and funny from training courses. It's definitely not the other way around and people naturally born more extroverted became salesmen and take courses to gain the slightest edge over their competition. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:17 PM
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Sounds like a straw man. "Social skills" is also incredibly vague here. I think personality is predetermined, which is what actually matters more. Things like being witty, funny, charming. You don't self improve into having these things. Don't understand the point of criticizing mens lack of emotional capacity when its beaten into them. It's like abusing a dog and being surprised it turns out how it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:31 PM
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I'm talking about children and teens. You don't suddenly turn into one of these guys at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:23 PM
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There's too many pitfalls today that prevent a lot of guys from honing and developing it. You need constant exposure in social environments to develop it, which was just how life was before the internet and phones, but now guys have a million ways to withdraw, cope, and isolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:44 PM
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Women have a sixth sense for detecting bad personalities and men with malicious intent, much to the dismay of many incels made invisible as a result of this fact. How can women be deceived so easily by someone feigning interest? How can this be???
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:38 PM
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The idea men are the ones voluntarily walking away from dating and relationships in any significant number is so wild and detached from reality it isn't really deserving of much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:40 PM
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Yeah, no. Unless you mean more genz guys are collectively giving up and choosing to rot, which might actually be closer to truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:14 PM
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Girl is the new meta.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:01 PM
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You're the one being dishonest. When a 25 year old dude says "average" guys and girls, he's almost always referring to 18-29 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 10:22 PM
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Women openly state dudes having less relationship/sexual experience is a red flag/unattractive. Why then are you surprised when men show a preference for women with lower body count over someone with more who's already admitted to viewing you as lesser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:43 PM
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Idk what you're talking about. The stats for trade related jobs speak for themselves. These include skilled and experienced workers. The stats were already bad for older generations and will only get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 02:39 PM
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It's fine bro, men in construction are actually doing super well according to the women in this thread. The group already at the highest risk for deaths of despair and who already lose one of the main opportunities to organically meet women (in college) actually doesnt get effected by widespread societal increase in loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:38 AM
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I do that and I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:58 AM
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You literally linked to a chart showing an upward trend over the past 10 years. Especially among the 25-34 range which is where you would expect to see the largest increase as a result of what this thread is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:49 AM
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You should read Dostoevsky regardless tbh. It's just really good literature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:47 AM
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Gradual decline towards something similar to what's seen on native american reservations, just on a larger scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:17 PM
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I'd say most are self aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 06:02 PM
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I'm not dismissing your life, just its relevance. You're pointing to fields with notoriously high rates of suicide, alcoholism, divorce, and substance abuse claiming they're doing great and not at risk because the ones you know are cool. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:10 PM
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Uhh, yeah knowing some guys that work trades just means you know those guys. This is a pretty obvious case of selection bias. But its kinda odd tiktok is your primary reference point in the OP when apparently now everyone you know is blue collar and you grew up on job sites. You know it's okay to not know about this kind of thing? Its obvious you don't from the way you talk about these fields in your post. You'll 100% just keep pretending though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:21 PM
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Nah he was right. But I do think your exposure is mostly tiktok. Sounds like you know a couple trade dudes and your dad was a laborer or something, and you're using that as your reference for how it's like working in them. Kind wierd. It's like me talking about what the tech industries like because my dad's a programmer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:20 PM
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I thought it was a /r9k/ meme from like 10 years ago. People here seem to be conflating it with the effect of men dropping out of the workforce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:57 AM
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I bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 03:23 AM
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I'm a pipefitter. Most guys are divorced griller types like you describe, but most guys are also 40+. When your only exposure to these dudes is tiktok you're obviously not going to meet any of the less socially successful. These fields are pretty much 100% male so it wouldn't surprise me if they faced similar struggles as the tech guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 02:49 AM
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She got us there, bros.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:14 AM
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Mb. I don't don't often see people referring to their current age as being "at" that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 05:26 PM
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So you're 30+ years old and are claiming to know what dating is like for genz based on a couple coworkers you have? I don't even disagree with apps being trash, but this is just dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:38 PM
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A lot of the genz guys who would be interested in committing are just isolated. Life doesn't naturally force you into intermingling like it used to. Guys will work, go home, goon on discord. The most successful committed relationships I've seen usually come out of friend groups, which guys have less of now. I've just given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 04:04 PM
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Idk I think guys are pretty in tune with adjusting their standards to what's reasonable since they can't afford not to be. If they're out of tune, they get nothing, and lower them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 03:09 PM
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This sounds like you just grabbed a bunch of men you don't like with different positions and complaints, then labeled them all redpill so you could call two distinct groups of men out for being hypocritcal. If a 30+ man's exclusively.dating 25 year olds, that's probably because he can.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 02:34 PM
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It seems most women agree on what is considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:35 PM
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If you do not find a guy attractive he is by definition unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:29 PM
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I don't think there is a specific source. You can just ask a girl and she'll tell you. If you're a guy this is just a mundane observation of the world. Wouldn't be so many dudes struggling if it were untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 01:08 PM
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80/20 refers to pure physical attraction. It's more relevant now since most people meet on apps today which are based purely on looks compared to meeting in real life where looks are less important. The number sounds about right based off personal experience. Most guys seem to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:08 PM
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Totally agree. There's a huge misalignment between what a guy actually wants to and does spend his free time on, and what it takes to regularly be in social situations with women regularly. It just doesn't happen naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:34 PM
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men whose sole ambition is easily getting their dick wet? It's honestly sad you think that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:01 AM
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I don't know, they're pretty good at mental gymnastics and cognitive dissonance. After seeing one unironically arguing that "small dick energy" is not insulting men with small dicks the other day, I wouldn't doubt they can bullshit their way through some self-reporting survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 07:10 PM
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Yeah its only an issue if youre alone in an unfamiliar setting. Going out with a buddy or group negates it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:41 PM
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Virgin guys have been the butt of jokes for decades now, it's not new. And why not challenge these notions that you are a whole entire worthy ass human and regardless if you had sex or not doesn't diminish that value. You can't really do this when you live in the real world. Reality will always shatter whatever cope you come up with in your head. Telling a guy he's wrong for feeling inferior when society is constantly telling him he is inferior is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:37 PM
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Are you saying other men find you as a threat? Both men and women do it subconsciously. I do it. My point is only that it is a thing and it makes it harder to make friends. Especially if we're talking about some dude trying to build a friend group from scratch. It's not the only reason, but a big one. "Threat" may not be the best word for it, but I'm using it in a very general sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:04 PM
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This whole "find meaning outside relationships" sentiment rings hollow when our culture views sexless men as the lowest kind of man. You can't expect a bunch of guys to be happy living like sexless golems their whole life while society constantly reminds them they're a failure of a man. It does a number on the psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:10 PM
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That can definitely play a part in it. There's many reasons why this happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:51 PM
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Where did I blame women? The women are wonderful effect effects both genders. I just find it annoying when women omit this and make it sound like they are better at making friends because they're more virtuous or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:15 PM
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Women like to brag about their friend groups on here all the time, but the reality is if you're a single dude at some social setting, you're viewed as a threat on some level which is a barrier that is always there for men that women never account for. When the world is more warm and open to you, no shit its easier to make friends. Women are wonderful after all. That said, men can be stable without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:40 PM
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I dodged it because it's irrelevant to the main point of the discussion. The relationship didn't work out. Most first relationships don't work out. Sorry, but it's pretty annoying seeing people immediately shift the goalposts to start attacking me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:34 PM
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I’m asking about her happiness. Did being with you bring down her happiness? That's a very wierd way to view relationships. We had ups and downs. We had a lot of fun but eventually found out we weren't that compatible and broke up. I’m not here to say that you shouldn’t want to be desired but I don’t think the listed issues are solely due to a lack of relationships. It's very clear you're upset with the idea of men requiring physical intimacy to be happy and are desperately trying to paint me in…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 08:22 PM
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Did you bring her down with your depression and she gave up her happiness for yours? I wasn't depressed anymore when I got a gf. I don't think I was ever depressed to be honest, just unhappy at being alone and feeling unlovable because that's a normal human response to that situation. you could have connected to society without a relationship It's incredibly hard to feel connected to society when you have nobody to come home to and have never felt desired by anyone in your entire life. I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:56 PM
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We're not together anymore. The point is that getting in a relationship and experiencing reciprocal affection improved my mood, made me happier, more confident, more connected to society, etc. For a man who's depressed and lonely, it's 100x more effective than any antidepressant or drug. To say "a relationship won't fix you" to such a man is blatant gaslighting from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:41 PM
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The people who say "it won't fix you" are always the people (women) who never had to experience lifelong lack of intimacy and its mental and physical effects. I got a gf and experienced intimacy for the first time at 25 and it literally DOES "fix" you on a biochemical level. It's like finally correcting a severe nutritional deficiency you didn't know you were living with your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:30 PM
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Looks like we gotta start dating toddlers and infants now, boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 08:11 PM
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While i will admit that a portion sees it as an healthy source of motivation, for the most part it is used to justify either bitterness, giving up or being an asshole while dodging accountability. In order to do that it usually requires the use of double standards This isnt an either or situation. TRP is just a strategy for success with life/women centered around increasing your value as a man. It's a guideline, not a guarantee. You can internalize it all, get fit, self improve and still fail wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:24 PM
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Woman moment. May come as a surprise for you, but with these things it's winner-take-all. The lived experience of being 4-7/10 and a "bottom 15%" is pretty much the same. There's a reason you see so many dudes throwing around the word "invisible". No dude wants to be defeatist btw. If you're wondering why a guy is acting defeatist. It's probably because he's been defeated and things are worse than you thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:20 AM
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why don't more men appeal to the gaze of women? Mewing and bonesmashing is now a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:41 AM
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Every mechanical trade that builds and upkeep our infrastructure is almost entirely male. Plumbers, pipefitters, electricians, welders, and yeah, garbage collectors too. The average age in these trades today is already high. Young men aren't going to bust their ass doing these jobs to come home to an empty apartment and no family. Men will live off the bare minimum in a studio apartment with a lawn chair and a TV and be content (materially).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:02 PM
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My point is it's a very high standard and that [high income] as a woman does not carry the same bargaining power as it does for a man, so when you say "I have a high income so I deserve a high income man", the two things are not equivalent. Wasn't saying you were overweight, I used it as an example for comparison to men's unrealistic standards. Most men being overweight isn't relevant at all either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:36 PM
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I don't remember saying that. But yeah, there's more single healthy weight men than single healthy weight women, so it's just what happens. I went with weight as the example because men don't care about a woman's income.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:11 PM
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Healthy weight Men want a healthy weight woman because that's what they are, but most women are overweight. The difference is most healthy weight men don't make a fuss and date them anyway because they're realistic. You can refuse, but don't be surprised when you're alone. Demanding high income is a way more unrealistic standard though, especially when high earning men do not care at all how much you make, so you're competing with women of all income levels for a tiny % of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:56 PM
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This is peak delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:53 AM
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