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The very nature of its existence is to mock another group of people. FTFY. I hope that clears it up. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 09:40 PM
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I get pretty heated up by this shit, so if you want some color, shoot me a PM.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 02:59 AM
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I think most people confuse opening up with looking weak. They assume this: "I'm hurt by your actions" is a fundamental sign of weakness, and therefore completely unacceptable. But it's not, it's a form of standing up for yourself. You just need to explain why. "I'm hurt by your actions, because it's completely unacceptable to flirt with a coworker in front of me. It makes me embarrassed for others to see, and worse, makes me feel like you don't respect me. I'm not OK with that behavior in our r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 08:14 PM
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that your route will also align with redpill advice There will be some overlap, yes, but I don't think that means redpill gets the credit. The vast majority of what I do is the exact opposite of the advice in the redpill sidebar. If it doesn't you might be able to re-visit TRP and check the study guide again to see which questions you missed. I actually disagree. I was always inherently good at sex, especially dominant sex. Flirting and interpersonal interaction also came easily. The areas that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:56 PM
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People like yourself do redpill stuff all the time without thinking its redpill. That's an easy claim to make when your your strategy is literally: "Everything that works is redpill. Therefore redpill works." But that ignores so much of what redpill actually advocates. For instance, I don't neg, I don't power play, I don't think of my wife as the most mature teenager in the house, and I don't dread game her. So if you want to pretend that I'm secretly redpill, go right ahead. But I'm going to ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:01 PM
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I'm going to tone my arguments down a little. I'm not interested in a flame war with you, and I think I was too aggressive in my previous post. I'm going to address your points honestly. When did I say that? Here: TRP is a combination of self-improvement and sexual strategy. They go hand in hand. TRP encourages men to dress better, lift, eat right and make money. All of this makes you high value and it takes hard work. TRP's short cuts and tactics should become habitual so it comes off as a natu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:49 PM
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I'm not familar with what the LA dating scene is. Link? It was something that I had heard from a BPer, so I was asking you about it. I don't have a source, so I am curious where it got its beginnings. But that was a new thought for me, and I've spent more time with it: is it OK to use the dating tactics designed for 25yo women on 15yo girls? It seems like there might be some moral hangups with encouraging teenagers to use these highly sophisticated methods on each other. I'm not holding you pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 06:32 PM
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TRP's short cuts and tactics should become habitual so it comes off as a natural. Yeah, that's bullshit. You can't fake respect for others and personal integrity. Those two things are the basis of any lasting success, and you need to develop them genuinely. That's our end goal too man. We are just trying to keep our women happy and attracted. We are trying to emulate guys like you so we can have the same success. Except you're not emulating me, because I don't use the tactics that you advocate. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:48 PM
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But what actions are you taking? Being a more attentive husband? Catering to your wife's every whim? Trying to be as agreeable and unassertive as possible? I'm not going to share that for you to Monday morning quarterback. But I do what I think is right for my relationship. And if I followed TRP, my relationship would actually suffer. I don't feel that it would bring any useful value to me and my wife. In fact, many things like dread game and negging would undo years of trust and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:42 PM
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Rofl, that's the only way you guys show success, you take credit for what everyone else does. If I followed your sidebar my marriage would fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 10:41 PM
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Im working on making it last, instead of counting down the days to it failing. Thats the fundamental difference between my viewpoint and the others expressed in this thread. I know relationships are fragile, but that inspires me to act, not whine. Oh, and its been 5 years, not 1.5. We've been living together with joint accounts for half a decade. You guys are fixated on the wrong number.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:19 PM
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If those other subreddits are like that, then yes, they are at fault. I havent read them and only know of PUA, so Ill take your word for it. But including them doesnt get TRP off the hook. Whether or not its one or many subreddits, if its similar to TRP tactics, I think very little of it. And isnt PUA derived from the LA dsting scene? Bringing those actics into a junior high or high school dating scene is wildly inappropriate. Thats like bringing a gun to a knife fight, or kicking kittens. Its f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 09:17 PM
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But what you cannot deny is my own success with women and life in general. To me, that is what matters. I don't deny this, but I deny that TRP has a monopoly on success with women. I am appalled by TRP tactics, yet I also have success with women. I believe this is enough to disprove TRP as the sole pathway to success. Whatever you say, the idea that TRP holds the "truth" is in fact an argument that TRP is the only true way. Frankly, this is BS. So you assume that just because I identify with TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:58 PM
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Yeah, I figured that would be discounted. TIL my relationship is doomed to fail...until it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:53 PM
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We could go on like this, but the underlying disagreement between you and I is that TRP holds any kind of truth about the world. I think it points out some general behaviors, and then uses them as excuses to be really shitty to each other. There's no truth to be had there, just a guide to being mean. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:36 PM
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So they're all like that unless they aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 07:34 PM
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I meant BP as a group itself. It does not look inward and realize that mocking and satire lead to nothing for personal development. But that isn't the goal in TBP. Subbing to TBP doesn't make them lack self-awareness in the rest of their lives. I think you're still generalizing a group that doesn't actually exist. :/ RP as a group itself looks inward and even teaches newcomers to not talk about RP with anyone else in the real world (or BPers here on reddit for that matter) because it is pointles…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:41 PM
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Its an indication of the inherent dishonesty of this sub. It pisses me off because instead of engaging with my ideas, people just downvote. Which is double annoying because I get called out for not following rules, but they do it flagrantly. I take it as an indicator that they have zero response to what I have to say, meaning they know they're impotent. So I rub it in their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:35 PM
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I agreed with you until you said irrational female. Both men and women are highly irrational in the dating scene, and in general. I think it would help RP to acknowledge this and incorporate it. Men aren't superior, and we often "think with our dick."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:57 PM
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BPs allow women to lead the relationship*. RPs do not. *sometimes. Actual relationship dynamics vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:48 PM
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Im not RP and I self reflect all the time. Its a core part of my success in life, because Im constantly identifying personal weaknesses that I need to work on. I think you still stereotyped BPers, even if accidently.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:46 PM
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Thats a false projection to gain undeserved credit. You can't point at something successful that you had no part of and say it proves your system is correct. Thats a completely dishonest statement to make, because it ignores all the parts of TRP that may not have been involved in the success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:44 PM
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In general, I don't think the alpha-beta dichotomy is very useful. i think people are complex, and will be both 'alpha' and 'beta' in reaction to different situations, and will shift from one to the other as they wish. For instance, sometimes I defer to my boss and let him do all the talking and decision making, and sometimes I take over a work meeting or conversation when I deem it appropriate. But I'll bite on your bait, and pick up the term that I think describes me. I've had arguments in thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:27 PM
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"Women are garbage and deserve no respect ever" = legit, non-personal, 'neutral' statement "TRP is full of anger and hatred toward women" = uncivil, post removed. Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:01 PM
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Its a shame you waste your talents on the internet. That reply is a work of Machiavellian art. Each of your last 4 lines in order: Irrational accusations, victimcy, pre-empting any response and then character assassination. Bravo. Is this what you mean by polite? Because it's a pretty vicious personal attack. Using proper sentence structure doesn't magically make personal attacks polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:59 PM
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You should, because it sounds disingenuous. Especially the part at the end where you imply that TRP will solve his problems. EDIT: I'm loving all the downvotes guys. You clearly don't follow the rules, and clearly can't tolerate dissenting opinions. This sub is shit. Honest debate my ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:36 PM
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Hey OP, the amount of negativity in this thread is pissing me off. You've opened your relationship up to criticism from a bunch of people who fundamentally hate women and relationships. They will do everything they can to make you doubt your relationship. They are fucking with your head. I think you made a mistake with your post. Please don't take them seriously. I'm in a relationship that sounds very similar to yours. We've been together 5 years now, we're both happy, and planning a future toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:18 PM
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I'm swooping into the middle of this one. I'm in a relationship similar to OP's, at least what he wrote also applies to mine. We've been together for 5 years, living together for 4.5 and married for 1.5. So, what's the reason mine will fail?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:14 PM
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Wow, so much condescension for a relationship you know nothing about. Well aside from the 6 or so sentences that OP wrote about it. How on earth can you be so certain of failure? EDIT: oooo, downvotes instead of responses. Are legit questions too hard?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 04:12 PM
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That's a lot of bureaucracy for a subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 03:40 PM
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All of that does explain your extremely long reddit rants though...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 06:05 AM
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Hey mods, how neutral is this title? I'm thinking about using it for my thread repost since you didn't like my title. Is this one OK to use? Mods? Helloooooo???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:22 AM
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Can I have a suggestion for a neutral title? Nothing springs to mind. I'm refuting bad advice, so how would I summarize that in a way that doesnt say "Im refuting bad advice?" Or do you want me to be nicer, or something? Legit question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:20 AM
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You guys are something else. RP and BP people are actually agreeing with each other in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:17 AM
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Um, ok? This is the most internet tough guy post I've ever seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:16 AM
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I ruled out their being friendly encounters due to OPs tone, so the disengage tactic is probably the only sure move.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 05:15 AM
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Rofl, good point. I hadnt thought of that. >D
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/15 12:20 AM
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Nah, never took it that way and wouldn't try to say it is. Just an individual giving bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:26 PM
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I wish it had a theme of not being a bitch, but the reaction to each scenario was to play into the hands of the bully. That's exactly being a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:20 PM
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Yeah, but this isn't TRP-specific advice. This can apply to anyone, so I think it's more important to get right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/15 11:14 PM
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Thats a shame. Its very worthwhile though, so I suggest you challenge yourself to learn it someday. I believe in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/15 02:32 PM
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Oh, I'm sorry. I thought we were speaking in idiot. Or is that too advanced for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:09 PM
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Apple potty blabble fart? Cough narf diggidity shnozpit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/15 07:08 PM
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You dont know a thing about what I support. You're just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:55 PM
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Apple potty blabble fart?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/15 01:53 PM
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How in the world do lesbians affect your life? Seriously, when has one ever harmed you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 10:17 PM
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Suuuuuree....
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 08:09 PM
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Its a small part of my overall advice. If you think its lacking, then I think the post would benefit from your suggestions. If you have additional or better resources, please post them. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 10:29 PM
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Im offering it as a guide to know what youre doing as a means to boost confidence. I think your criticism is a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 09:54 PM
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She Comes First is geared toward committed relationships; The Ethical Slut is geared toward the opposite. It sounds like they have a preference instead of an actual critique.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 07:20 PM
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I think that's a massive overthinking of a book on sex techniques.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/15 05:25 PM
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Thanks, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 01:53 PM
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Why? Have they read it, and have you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 04:16 PM
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There was a time when I was lonely and had problems getting women. I tried some of the things TRP advocates and none of them worked, albeit, this was before TRP existed. I was in an angry place and my life turned to shit. I had to rebuild my core values and one of them is respect. Respect for myself and respect for others. Since then my track record with women took off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 08:51 PM
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I disagree that knowing what she wants/doesn't want is shallow. There are many women that are beautiful but not my type. I wouldn't date them but I wouldn't say I'm shallow for that, nor that it reflects negatively on her. I'm just simply not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 05:50 PM
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Fair enough. Though I prefer them to be courteous to me instead of downright mean. It's hard enough to build up the courage without an insult at the end.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:52 PM
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I don't believe it needs to be a hostile game. I've always had success getting what I want by treating people with respect. I'm writing these to reflect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:36 PM
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Im confused now. Is trying not to be harsh a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:31 PM
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Lol, wow dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/15 03:29 PM
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I disagree about standards. Maybe in casual hookups standards are all over the place, but guys have high standards for relationships. A guys' confidence is often judged by other guys based on the "hotness" of his girlfriend. I do agree that men do more approaching which leads to a higher rejection rate for guys. But I disagree that all women are harsh about it. I would say that maturity plays a big role. Immature people are assholes, including immature women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 07:06 PM
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I had a section about positive anger but deleted it. For the most part I agree with you. I think the only difference in our posts is our working definitions of the word anger. I purposely stripped out all positive connotations and restricted it to anger that is misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 05:05 AM
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I truly have mixed feelings about this. For me, it's not as important to unlearn those roles as it is to understand them. I definitely do not have a captain/first mate relationship. We have different strengths, but no one calls the overall shots. But, I still feel it's important to understand a traditional male and female dynamic because it's so often relevant in relationships that aren't your romantic one. I find it immensely useful to understand male self image and female self image in the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:56 AM
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I'm 27. Also, everything you said is summarized by this: individuals work for their own self interest. It applies to bankers and women alike. And men, and whomever. I don't know who told you women were or weren't on your team, but there are no teams and no one gives you anything. Everyone, men and women, are on their own. All the same, thanks for contributing. I respect the way you wrote your disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:42 AM
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Are saying TRP is abusive as hell? If not, what are you saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:29 AM
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I'm writing what I actually think using an account that I care about. Also, men don't screen women based on looks? Listen to the average male conversation devoid of women and then tell me which gender bases all value on physical appearance. It's shitty for both to do, but it's not like us guys have a moral high ground. Just sayin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/15 04:13 AM
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The fact that you think this is concern trolling shows that I'm being successful, IMO. I'm not out to prove TRP wrong, and I'm not out to troll anyone. This is my personal belief based on my personal experiences. I'm turning it into an alternative narrative that also produces results.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:34 PM
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I didn't notice the flair options. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:32 PM
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I lot of what you said is the official TRP view, and you've paraphrased the TRP sidebar. I simply disagree. Women generally aren't afraid of shooting a guy down and don't need to invent excuses to do so. And attractive guys can be creepy too. have very low opinions of women on the whole yet still get laid. I think this is what a lot of TRP aspires to become, but I think that the guys who pull this off are just playing to their individual strengths. They're successful with this approach because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:27 PM
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I've had a woman antagonize me into anger on purpose during an argument, just so I'd show some amount of giving a shit. We were seriously dating so she knew me well. But my unwillingness to engage was a huge hurdle to communicating. I'm better at expressing myself now, so this doesn't happen anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 06:23 PM
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That example is so extreme that it's not useful when talking about the mainstream behavior of most people. I'm generalizing to a large degree because I simply can't cover every situation or scenario. I'm sure your example happened, but I don't find it enlightening. All the same, thanks for contributing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 02:36 PM
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Aside from marrying someone I trusted, I also put a lot of effort into being good in bed. Also, I travel for work, so it's easier for me to cheat without strings attached, though the opportunity exists for both of us. We've made sure to talk about it openly in our relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:40 AM
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When a couple stops communicating, they're done. Maybe they'll drag it out through the holidays or for some other reason, but it's going to end.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:29 AM
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Men, unlike women, actually have a pretty good idea what they want I operate under the assumption that most people don't know what they want. Not just in dating, but in all things. Because this is PPD, I felt the need to google this until I found something that backs up this claim. So here's an article I never read but the title looks like it proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/15 12:22 AM
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I'm pulling from memory, sorry. I don't have a readily available link and I would just be googling it the same as you. Edit: I'm also on a work computer, and googling this sort of thing would look very strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:32 PM
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I consider that the only valid litmus test. I recall a study that suggested women "get wet" when in the presence of violence. The conclusion was that if violence was close, there was a higher chance for being sexaully assualted. as in another village is attacking your village, and all the women will be raped. The lubrication would be for the improved survivability of the woman during forced penetration, not because of arousal. I don't hold this up as irrefutable evidence that you're wrong becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 10:07 PM
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i think men and women typically learn to be different from the environment they grow up in. I'm not arguing how or why. I don't believe men an women are fundamentally different at birth, but society imprints different behaviors, and that's what we have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:43 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:39 PM
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Neither tactic is valid in a debate. Literally the only response that I need give to your post or to COPCO's is to name the bias you're employing. This popped up in my mailbox because you said my name. I understand your criticism, and this is how I addressed it in my recent post "You're totally blowing this out of proportion" Yeah, I probably am. But I'm an outsider looking in, and that's what it looks like. Much of it is unoffensive or things I agree with, but some stuff is so mean-spirited and…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 09:31 PM
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Be careful with that assertion. I hadn't heard of TRP until about 6 months ago and I started dating and sleeping with women 13 years ago. My views on sex and gender relations were formed completely separately from TRP, TBP, and most of Reddit altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/15 02:57 PM
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The problem is that there are actually many definitions of every term, and each TRP person seems to use a different one. It makes communicating in this sub impossible, because trying to debate something like this leads inevitably to changing definitions and picking and choosing which parts of TRP are actually supported by the defender.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 07:01 PM
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I think this is rather simplified and leaves out nuances, but I'll chalk that up to the Reddit format, not to your argument. So on it's face I accept what you say, and have had similar enough experience involving the differences between men and women to move the discussion forward. But what gets me is the woman-hate and the emotional manipulation part. The directions for using sexual strategy and then absolving responsibility for using them by claiming its 'amoral,' sems to be little more than a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:56 PM
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You wanted informed debate, so I changed the subject to my actual issue with TRP. Anything on the previous topic was me lashing out at you for simply being TRP. If you want to continue that, I'm happy to keep calling you names.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:44 PM
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No, they're not. They have different traits and that's that. However, I see absolutely no evidence that supports that one gender is superior to the other. But the biggest problem is the bait and switch pulled in this sub. Informed debate is so far impossible because so far, it sems no one admits abuse is good, and no one will admit they think women are inferior. But those are two basic tenents in the canon writings of TRP. Yet, when called on it, people say "well I don,t believe that, so you're …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 06:40 PM
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I found more! And instead of just being organized flair, this is listed under Required reading as RedPill 101. My two favorite headings are "Last Minute Resistance" and "Breaking Rapport." The latter is juicier, with much, much more content. I classify it as manipulation and emotional abuse. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2q582c/a_comprehensive_guide_to_the_red_pill/ So please, mop the floor with me by stunningly defending these aspects of RedPill canon. Like I said, the abusive par…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:45 PM
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Hey, while you're no doubt going to create a rhetoric that ignores most of this, I think it will be much mo4e interesting to see you defend it. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2rkel5/30_observations_dealing_with_women/ It's listed in the sidebar as a post under RedPill Theory. If that's not an endorsement from the subreddit as actual TRP belief, then why is it there? So please, use your keen skills of BP destruction to explain to me why that list is correct, and how you can reasonabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:27 PM
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Hey, I found this in the subreddit sidebar under "RedPill Theory." I think this is where a lot of the contention is der8ved with this subreddit. It is definitely not flattering to women. http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2rkel5/30_observations_dealing_with_women/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:18 PM
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It was written as an end-all be-all explanation to answer the question. I entirely disagree that it fully explains the phenomenon. Maybe that happens, but its not the overall reason "the sexodus" is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:17 PM
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I'm asking because women as inferior seems to be a major theme of TRP, and I'm curious to mnkw where that comes from. Again, this isn't judgement, just an observation that you may be able to help me understand. Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Btw, I agree that men and women are different. I simply don't see either as better than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:12 PM
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So perception equals reality? My point is that one instance of something happening is not proof that it will always happen. Maybe that analysis has played out, it probably has at some point. But thats nkt the same as it being a law of behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:10 PM
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I will agree with you there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:08 PM
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I don't know any Kanye songs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:07 PM
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The trolling is strong with this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 04:05 PM
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AKA people with no life experience who think they know everything. It's funny you say that, since that's what most BP'ers think of RP'ers. It makes sense though, since TRP seems to be populated with people who can't get further than being rejected by a woman. At least that's who I've found in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:46 AM
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Ooo, that's not me though! Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:45 AM
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In itself, none of what you said is bad. But I don't understand where the inherent inferiority of women plays into this, nor do I understand why emotional manipulation is part of TRP canon. Why isn't the end pursuit to be better, and to gain the upper hand through hard work, and earning that position? This isn't directed at you in particular, but I'm hoping you can clarify this, since I haven't found anyone else to answer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:43 AM
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This is the best, most succinct summary of this issue that I've seen. Have an upvote, my diametrically opposed opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:41 AM
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TBP doesn't conclude anything. It's a loose association of people that think TRP is silly. There is no single TBP opinion on anything. At best, you'll be getting individual opinions as a response to your question, not an overall statement of TBP lore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:39 AM
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Seeking out TRP material to mock is the ENTIRE point of BP. It was created solely for that purpose. It's really fun, actually. Saying "BP Viewpoint" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what BP is. It's not a different view of life, it's just a community dedicated to making fun of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:33 AM
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I leave. I like having fun on Friday nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:32 AM
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The worst part of dealing with TRP is that the definition of something changes as soon as someone asks about it. "NONONO, AWALT doesn't mean all women. That's just part of the acronym because reasons."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:30 AM
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Subreddits are their own little kingdoms and get to decide the rules. I would expect to be banned extremely quickly in TRP or RPW, which is why I don't go there.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:28 AM
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Lol, you are such a fucking asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 02:22 AM
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Whoa buddy, I'm so sorry to upset you. Calm down, you've actually scared me! No, not really. It's all text and none of this matters. PP isn't a place for informed discussion since we're all here sportin' our flair and have already chosen sides before we arrived. It's only purpose is for internet arguments, and I highly doubt they sway a single person. I definitely don't believe that me calling you a fucking twat somehow gets you 10 new recruits. For one thing, your ranks are only filled by those…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/15 12:02 AM
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Ok, so why is it a good thing to emotionally abuse someone in order to get them to sleep with you? That's my core issue with TRP, and nothing more. If you don't believe that, then good for you and there's no reason to continue this discussion. It's literally the only thing I have a problem with. "Biotruths," etc. are just contrived justifications for treating women as inferior, so there's no point debating that. It all centers around abusing people to get what you want. But anyone who does that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 11:54 PM
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Holy fuck. I didn't want you to dig up sources, just give me examples to backup your opinion. I was genuinely curious and asking a simple question while giving you free reign to answer. And you response was to.... go off the deep end? Dude, seriously, you didn't represent your position very well. In fact, not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 11:47 PM
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I'm not defending the field, I'm asking you to explain your position that feminism is useless and only exists to give stupid people jobs in academia. I've flat out stated that I don't know much about it, and as such I have no ability to defend it. You're beating a dead horse now. I'm not "disregard a field based on a single intro course". I'm disregarding it because what is in the field and everything that surrounds it. Feminist academics grew from political struggle and as such it's no differen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:36 PM
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Is that what you call a "field report?" Because that's just creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 09:32 PM
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Or you just made some shit up and called it reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:49 PM
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Well, I disagree with that entire analysis so I don't think I'm oversimplifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 08:00 PM
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Sweet, easiest win yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 07:58 PM
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I told you, I don't know much about it. I've taken one gender and women's study course, and that's only because it was cross-listed as a german studies course, which I was interested in. I find it dishonest to disregard a field based on a single intro course. The more I learn about the world, the less solid my opinions become about everything. So when someone has a hard and fast opinion about something, and they aren't an expert, I consider them to be extrapolating generalizations from very litt…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:46 PM
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Alright, we'll stop arguing over semantics. I find it annoying anyway. Let's get to some meat: What do you think is useless about feminism, and why is it just so stupid people can have jobs in academia?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:39 PM
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I was just answering what I think are classical academic fields. Which one's I took is not something I'm going to talk about. So you didn't take them all, but you have opinions on them? What does that sound just like...? So you haven't actually read anything about academic feminism and are just making an ill informed guess. Wow, I guess we're both guilty on that count. And since I took an intro to women's studies course and you claim that means I know nothing, when your opinions about feminism a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 05:22 PM
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Your claim that /u/Rhad42's position is based on nothing more than anecdote fails No it doesn't, you came in after the fact with evidence. You have no idea if that guy wasn't just talking out of his ass. Well done on the ninja edit to the entire conversation. You're not my thesis advisor. I'm arguing with you, not working for you. If you want to make a claim about my sources, as a way of attacking those sources, then it becomes your job to support that claim. It's the internet, I get to do whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:54 PM
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Thank you, master. BTW, define circlejerk? Because I'm totally serious. You just quoted a woman to support your opinion, and that strikes me as strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:49 PM
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Her informed opinion is relevant and persuasive on this issue. And holy fuck, I missed this. Are you seriously quoting the opinions of a woman??? But I thought they couldn't even STEM? You'd better delete that shit before another terper notices and takes back your alpha card.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:43 PM
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Why ask me at all if you can deduce it from my answer? Because I'm being argumentative. So educate me then on what exactly is awesome about academic feminism I don't know anything about academic feminism, because I don't mistake the intro courses for the entire field. Sitting in any classroom that encourages discussion while surrounded by freshmen is bound to be an experience that makes you dumber. But that also happens in psychology, english, etc, but that doesn't mean anything. My intro to eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:41 PM
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I directly refuted your claim that /u/Rhad42's position was based on nothing more than a single anecdote. My sources are sufficient for my purpose: refuting what you said. Good job on coming to his support then? There are these magical things called "libraries" and "universities" where you can obtain access. That's what I do. Yeah, that's impractical. You linked to a paywall, which doesn't help an online argument. Saying there are other ways to get it just shows that there are other ways to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:28 PM
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How about you look at the reply thread-OP made to me? Because that was my "stereotypical feminist course" phrase referring to. I did, and replied to him. My reply to you was directed at you. Well, after an intro course in a classical academic field I didn't walk out thinking the entire field is retarded and only exist so stupid people can have academic careers. Do you want me to say 'good job' or something? The more you talk the more you show how little you know about academia. And what are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:20 PM
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You're implying that men don't despise low-status women? In TRP, it seems negligent to ignore the fact that you guys promote despising low-status people of all genders. In fact, you don't even like high-status women very much. So why the double-standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:18 PM
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I see what you're trying to do, and it's mostly fucking stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 04:07 PM
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So was this an into, GenEd or 100 level course? Cuz it sounds like it, and that gives you almost zero knowledge of the actual field of women or gender studies. It seems that attending one class = 100% of an entire field, just like interacting with one woman = 100% knowledge of all women. TRP is characterized by it's lack of experience and perspective more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:53 PM
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What is a "stereotypical feminist course?" It seriously sounds you guys have very little experience with the field of women's studies beyond the intro or gened courses, which suck for basically every field.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:52 PM
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A single abstract for a document you must purchase and a blog post are not proof in themselves. A huge problem with the internet in general is that people don't know how science is conducted nor how individual publications interface with the field as a whole. You could find a brilliantly written paper exactly about crying, and it still wouldn't mean anything. It's a single piece from a single study that advances a single point of view. It has little overall bearing. I find that sort of thing get…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:42 PM
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The most frustrating part of arguing in this sub is the lack of definition. One terper gives an example of "alpha" or something similar, but when repeated another terper says "nah, that's not alpha," without saying what they think "alpha" is. It's a brilliant technique to never, ever be wrong. shrug
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/15 03:37 PM
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Women want masculine men. No, that woman wants a masculine man, and has a pretty shitty standard for it, BTW. You've literally taken the word of one woman and applied it to an entire gender. Do you notice how stupid that is?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:58 PM
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I took a German studies class that was cross-listed as a gender and women's studies class in college because it featured 18th century German literature about relationships. Not exactly a high standard there. But, it was an awful class only because it was a 100 level elective, not the pinnacle of a degree in the subject. I'm willing to bet OP had a similar experience, and is using an intro or gen ed class as an excuse to write off an entire field.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:56 PM
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I've been lied to? Really? I actually feel like I had a pretty good handle on women growing up. Sure, I don't think the same way, and my wife points out shit I would never have noticed, but to say that I was lied to at any point would be a lie itself. I really don't know what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:53 PM
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There are guys out there who would have married you and allowed you to bring additional men and women to bed. Fun for all! I think you limited yourself a little with this one. Not a bad choice, but I think you allowed yourself to be boxed in by some shitty guys in college. However, I do hope you and your partner are eternally happy. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:48 PM
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In RP view, any guy who does well with women has some unknowable secret formula that will never be divulged to them. These men are the Prince Charmings' and they themselves are the losers. Of course, they say that women make this distinction, not themselves. This is the only way they can explain why they aren't getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:45 PM
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Yadda yadda yadda, didn't read.... I only came here to say that there's no such thing as a blue-pill view of the world. Really, there's no rule book or anything. It's just a bunch of people who happen to agree that TRP is weird. That's really the only thing "BP'ers" have in common. So I have no idea what you think you can say about them as a whole, other than as some elaborate straw man to further your odd justifications for being a jerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:41 PM
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I originally came to BP/PP because I'm genuinely concerned about male issues in my generation. I think there are some very real pressures that men have to deal with, and TRP is a symptom of these problems. It's a solution that I don't agree with, and has me alarmed. But I came here and found out that TRP is mostly just an excuse to do whatever you want and not feel badly about it. Plus, arguing with a RP'er doesn't go anywhere, since there's always a strange justification for their odd behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:36 PM
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There are studies that show that porn "trains" the brain to only get off in certain ways. Even gay men who got off to straight porn before they figured out their sexuality can still be aroused by the straight porn they watched as a teen. The effect is to hardwire certain circumstances as attractive. That can be a problem when sex with an actual woman ensues, since it's unlikely you'll be able to replicate whatever kink you had trained yourself with. That's a very real way that porn can be harmfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:33 PM
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I think you're making up some generalizations that aren't necessarily true. I've dated both up and down in casual relationships. In fact, one woman was a 6ft tall ballet dancer and was wickedly attractive in the traditional sense. But oddly enough, she wasn't my type. Fun, yes, but ultimately unsatisfying. So the simply system you set up doesn't really cover reality. Also, most women in porn are either normal with a lot of makeup, or incredibly ugly with a shitload of makeup. It's rare to see in…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:28 PM
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I'm totally beta. I'm so beta it huuuurts. My awesome job, great wife and overall success in life prove that I am beyond a doubt, so fucking beta. Because biology mean that if I'm not a worthless asshole, I'm beta. Let me bow to your homeless, angry, self-pitying virgin ass, since you're so much more alpha than I am, simply because you post online to a forum that promotes you to abuse women. Sorry for speaking out of turn. Do I have permission, master? But in all seriousness, I don't think "alph…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 09:12 PM
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Says the man who literally makes things up and then says "all women are like this..." ??? Sorry to follow your post history and chime in, but your cognitive dissonance is sometimes astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/15 08:22 PM
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I got nothing left to say, man. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/15 05:14 AM
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You dislike the tactics that "every woman uses" ( which isnt true, btw), and claim that it has lead to massive pain and rejection, forcing you to adopt those very same methods on all women everywhere. Why is it hurtful to you and not to them? Not to mention, you've said flat out that its harmful at several points in this long back and forth. Go ahead and use your system, but there are no shortcuts in life and at best it will work temporarily. And once you start, you're no l9ng the victim, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 06:37 PM
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You've already admitted TRP is hurtful. Everything else you've said is a contrived justification for doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/14 02:43 AM
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Salty? Nah, just a bit of fun. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 08:01 PM
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Wtf do you mean by 'adapting and reacting makes you more attractive?' Without context that statement has no meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:59 PM
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My point is that your standards are unreasonable, and don't line up with reality. Also, a self-respecting woman will have standards too, and if you don't meet them, tough. Look elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:58 PM
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Theres nothing wrong with promoting masculinity. There's something very wrong when you conflate masculinity with being an emotional predator. That's not a man. On second thought, TRP says you should "use the sexual strategy that all women employ" (paraphrase). So, what you're saying is that to be more manly, one must copy a woman's behavior? Yeah, you got it down, alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:36 PM
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There are plenty of women who are single and no one hits in them. The number one problem with TRP is that you all sound like only supermodels are worth your time, and pay zero attention to anyone else. Seriously, I'm sure there are tons of women you've completely overlooked and don't even realize it. Instead you focus on the same girl that every guy hits on and take it personally when she gets sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:33 PM
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best personal model... and as a student, I've seen many. I just said that the problem you describe is mostly in young people. As a fucking student, no duh you see it around you. By and large, that shit doesn't happen after college. There's nothing in life that says you must have sex in college, and plenty of people don't. Making your entire life about sex is narrowminded and ruinous. she could lose weight, become more attractive and her peoblem would be solved in a year. Holy fuck. Dating advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 07:29 PM
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Alright, on second thought, you've touched on something that I feel is a legitimate problem people face when dating. Here's my no-bullshit, non argumentative opinion on why dating is so fucking hard as a young person. It mostly boils down to what people are taught is attractive growing up. If you look at advertising, movies, TV shows, whatevs, you generally see young, slender people wearing basically the same style of clothing. They're all attractive in roughly the same way. The problem is, no o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:32 AM
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No, I fully get it. TRP only respects Alphas and promotes being a total dick, unless of course it's coming from someone else. Then all of the sudden being aggressive is waaaay out of bounds. Boo fucking hoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:17 AM
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I'm a sexually successful guy who's never had a real problem with women or faced even a quarter of the rejection or pain some of the dudes in TRP have been through You don't know anything about what I've been through. How could you? All you have to go on is a couple of paragraphs that I wrote. Why would I, or why should we? For every TRP out there, there's a thousand women using the exact same types of strategies, or derogatory world views, or utilitarian approaches to men and masculinity. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/14 02:12 AM
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Admitting it is the first step to a cure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:01 PM
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Wow you really are a troll. I was sincere with my advice. Take it or leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 09:00 PM
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You sound young and immature to me, and recognizing that is the first step to growing out of your behaviors. If you keep up with self-reflection you'll notice triggers that set you off, and you can change what action you take when a trigger happens. Routine journalling is a good tool to use. If you feel like its worse than that, go to a therapist. Reddit ain't doctors, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:39 PM
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Millennials will get more conservative as they age, though society will still, ever so slowly trend, left, as it has for the last century. The US and Europe will become weaker allies as China becomes a bigger influence. It's already happening, actually, and Europeans no longer feel like they have the full attention and benevolence of US foreign policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:34 PM
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I definitely want kids. I dont think theres such a thing as a single blue pill "view," but I want them to grow up to be self aware, considerate, thoughtful and good to others. I also want them to be good at what they do and be diligent about it. I dont care if they're artists or physicists, so long as they're trying to be as good as they can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:29 PM
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Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 05:31 PM
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Oh, do explain how. I love it when people snipe unqualified descriptors as if they mean something by themselves. And adoring Fight Club isn't trite itself? It's a love song to disillusioned Gen-X'ers who hate their lives. Making that your bible says way more about you than you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 05:13 PM
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Let's run with that. Your ultimate expression of masculinity is to squat in abandoned buildings, have disassociative personality disorder, and make soap. And let's not leave out all the whining about how unfair life is. You've definitely got a healthy understanding of maculinity going on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 03:01 PM
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You're talking to a guy with a lot more experience in this than you think. I've been in several long term relationships that were very healthy, but I've also been lead on by women, once pretty badly. I've been in the party scene and attempted casual hookups. I've been heartbroken and single and lonely as fuck, and I've never decided that manipulating people was the answer. I simply moved on to find women who didnt't do that shit to me, and I found it. Your claim that all women do those things is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:20 PM
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I answered your question voluntarily and you freaked out about it. That's a dick move to pull on someone participating in your thread. And flirting is just fun and casual to me. I don't make detailed reports of every encounter I have with a female to share on the internet. I don't have a transcript for you to study because who the fuck does that? It's weird. I gave you my best answer, so take it as it is. Edit: not your thread, actually, which makes your prying even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:02 PM
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You can actually look up how that's handled in the courts. This doesn't have to be some intangible what-if, there are actual rulings you can refer to, with the judges reasoning attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:58 AM
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BP people typically propose blank-slatist world views or gender and people and tend to content that sexual strategies are not effective because everyone is a snowflake. BP'ers are simply non-RP'ers. Saying that they have anything more in common is a misstatement. And sexual strategy may be effective, but I don't know and don't really care if it is because it's a crappy thing to do to other people. While it may lead to short-term success, I think most men are ultimately looking for more out of li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:52 AM
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Wow, really? I like that movie, but I also consider it the ultimate expression of ineffective Gen-X whininess, no offense. "Society is fucked, everyone is sheeple, let's wear ironic aviators and beat each other up."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:45 AM
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So as I said, you could have simply answered by not answering, and skipped the dishonest personal accusaitons. Oh whatever dude, I was telling you how I felt about your thread. If you want me to walk you through the particulars of flirting, I can't help you. Just go out and try it on people, it's not something I can teach. EDIT: I've had so many people complain that I'm making personal attacks. Isn't RP supposed to make you alpha and dominant? Seriously, if I were going after people it would loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:39 AM
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I'm uncomfortable talking about this because it feels like you're voyeuristic and creepy as fuck. Seriously, you sound like you're trying to pad your wank bank with this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 07:31 AM
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You haven't listened to a word I said. Admins aren't judges and should not be. They fuck up when they try to take the place of the courts. They should let judges decide criminal proceedings. Now fuck off with your completely misplaced condescension you fucking moron.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 02:06 AM
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Everyone on my side? Now who's making it personal? I dont know where you were going with the whole unemancipated thing but you just kept going.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:45 AM
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Um, sometimes admins fuck up. I dont see how you can form a point around that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:33 AM
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Normal flirting is just friendly banter, mild teasing, hinting at attractions and desires. In no way do I try to dominate the person and its usually equal in terms of amount of talking per person. One one-nighter was at a house party. I was chatting with a girl and another guy, never thinking for a second that it was anything more than a conversation. A little while in she invited me into her room and got naked. I was surprised. And lastly, of course I did. We explored our mutual interests, some…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:30 AM
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Because you lost your point along the way and there was nothing else to say. You don't have to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 01:22 AM
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So are you one of these creatures, or is it only other people? And why? What does disenfranchising everyone serve? Do you want to be royalty over some kingdom of serfs?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:11 AM
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So are you one of these creatures, or is it only other people? And why? What does disenfranchising everyone serve? Do you want to be royalty over some kingdom of serfs?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:10 AM
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Exactly, yes, duh! No, of course not, and don't mince my words. I've read plenty about RP, but talking like you is a step toward acting like you, and fuck that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/14 12:07 AM
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Does that matter? You want to disenfranchise women all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 11:22 PM
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TRP is all about gaming women, no? And you're saying that the media hype around campus rape means all women should have their liberty removed and male escorts instated. If that's not what you actually believe, that's at least how you've portrayed yourself this whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:41 PM
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So take it up as a media issue, not a womens' issue. If anything, it's a college aged human issue. Seriously, there's a shitload of terrible reporting, and that's where your beef should be. Don't try to take out some perceived female injustice on the next unsuspecting woman you meet, that's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:29 PM
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Im not sure why you ended your thingy there with "you you you". It's not about you personally, the general "you" of people who believe this way. I would like to avoid semantic debates that have nothing to do with the overall issue, so please give the benefit of the doubt when I say things like "you." im sorry, did you miss the "Rape epidmic hysteria"? It is women and femonists claiming some ludicrous number of women are being raped Women are getting wasted drunk in droves for the first time in h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:25 PM
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Please do provide a link to were I said that in this thread. Or is this another example of your intellectual laziness were you ascribe opinions you don't like to people that disagree with you and call you out? I was trying to annoy you because I can't stand arguments over semantics. This has nothing to do with the overall debate of RP/BP. I'm here because it's fun to debate these issues, but I don't plan on getting any more involved than I want to. I'm not going to learn a bunch of acronyms when…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:18 PM
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Um, duh? The idea that all of these women are going out and getting wasted and then "raped" leads only to 1. ignoring it, 2. sheltering them. By "all these women" you're referring to a small number of people. Most women do chalk these situations up to a drunken mistake and move on with life. I know, I've been involved with or party to this type of shit and mistakes are mistakes. No one feels good about it, but it's not life-ending. And that doesn't invalidate the cases where a woman actually was…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:11 PM
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You consider it self-righteous to avoid something you think is harmful? No wonder you deride women who avoid bad situations, like getting involved with jerks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 10:00 PM
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You're inventing a pattern that isn't actually there. If anything, administrations at various universities are wildly inconsistent with how they deal with rape accusations. Even in the most recent sensational case of false rape accusations, the Phi Kappa Psi scandal at UVA, the accused weren't expelled, and according to the article the campus protected them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:55 PM
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RP: sleeping around, trying to be dominant in a conversation, "keeping her on edge" or whatever it's called by not calling or being emotionally distant. Pretending not to care. Basically trying to "game" girls into casual sex. My tactics were to flirt like a normal human being, show that I was interested, ask her out on a few dates, then ask her to be my girlfriend. I was upfront and honest about the whole thing, and I was turned down plenty of times. It hurt, but I moved on and found people who…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:49 PM
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Where did that come from? I don't think universities have usurped the courts at all. I'm saying that courts should dictate justice, not a campus administration.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:43 PM
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Seriously, they way you wrote it originally did not clearly convey your thoughts. But we'll run with them now that it's clear. “Good idea. Someone should start an internet place where men discuss shitty women and insist that all women be assumed to be like that unless proven otherwise.” Yeah, except that's not what it is. It's actually this: "Women are inferior to men and do nothing but use betas as doormats for their personal advancement and will drop them like a fly for a better sexual partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:18 PM
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Seriously, they way you wrote it originally did not clearly convey your thoughts. But we'll run with them now that it's clear. “Good idea. Someone should start an internet place where men discuss shitty women and insist that all women be assumed to be like that unless proven otherwise.” Yeah, except that's not what it is. It's actually this: "Women are inferior to men and do nothing but use betas as doormats for their personal advancement and will drop them like a fly for a better sexual partner…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 09:17 PM
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What are you talking about? Everyone should be cautious of strangers. Both genders, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:53 PM
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Ok, so what you've just said is that thousands of women are raped on campus, and it's their fault; that the solution to men committing violent crimes against women is to shelter the women. Is that about right? Because that's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:51 PM
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Thanks, that is helpful. I appreciate the friendly gesture. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:43 PM
1

So what? That doesn't give them jurisdiction over the crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:36 PM
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I did, and it still makes no sense. You're communicating via text, so your tone is completely gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:35 PM
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I'll debate the topics, but I'm going to avoid the jargon while doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:34 PM
8

Now you're just trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:33 PM
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It's not laziness. I'm intentionally avoiding learning more about the ideology than necessary. I think it's toxic, and I'm treating it as such. That's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 08:33 PM
9

Why? A rape claim usually causes people to take sides, and the victim can be harassed for coming forward. It's so common that you're doing it right now without realizing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:53 PM
5

Um, no. The last place college administrators need to be is involved in romantic relationships individually. Plus, they don't make laws. If date rape is classified as a crime, then an admin trying to solve it locally is breaking the law. If you have an issue, you need to take it up with your local lawmakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:51 PM
4

Its why its called date rape. Its a different term with a different meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:44 PM
9

Or it can't be proven if it was, or there will be social consequences for the victim... It's not as simple as you want it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:44 PM
1

I'd love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:41 PM
0

Why do I have to talk like them if this is supposed to be a neutral place for debate? Assuming their language is a form of accepting their ideas, which immediately places me at a disadvantage. Ergo, its bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:39 PM
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Herpa derp? I don't follow. You're saying men should treat women suspiciously but women who do the same to men are shitty?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:36 PM
9

Yes, its a personal hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 07:33 PM
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Doesn't it already smack of bullshit when you have to learn a new language just to debate something? But Ill play along and pretend this isn't totally weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 06:09 PM
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Now that I know what it is, no, I'm not incel and never had a problem picking up women. I've never used RP tactics and hadn't even heard of RP until after I was married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:58 PM
1

People should have that approach when it comes to all other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:53 PM
0

I may be familiar with it, but the abbreviation obscures what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:51 PM
0

I like your flair. Can't tell if its sarcasm, but it's a funny image all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:38 PM
0

What the hell is incel? Can we add a rule to the sidebar against RP/BP abbreviations and acronyms in this sub? All this jargony balogna needs to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:33 PM
1

Thats a bummer. Remember that something with great promise and little work is usually a quick fix that doesn't truly solve any problems. If you really want to better yourself, you need to start with the fundamentals and put in time and effort. It's hard to become a better person, but its possible and leads to good results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:18 PM
-1

That sounds totally normal. To expect anything less than you being cautious about a new person is unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:12 PM
6

I've never seen that. If you tell someone not to be cautious you're a moron. Shit, my university campus held free awareness classes (taught by a woman) that told men and women how to avoid becomming the victim of muggings, violent assault and rape. I've had a woman talk to my wife and I about how you should follow your gut and ignore political correctness if you feel uneasy and simply turn around or cross the street. Her dad was an inner-city cop. There was an askreddit thread a year back asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:02 PM
7

Shitty people tricked him. They are shitty people for it. I don't blame the guy, just sympathize. We, as a society, say the same things to both though. We tell both to be alert, not trust strangers and travel in groups. I'm not sure where you're seeing a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:48 PM
1

Fair enough. Still not a checkmate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:44 PM
5

Toootally false. No one says being worthless gets you anywhere. You still need to work at life to succeed, but you dont need sexual strategy and emotional manipulation to get ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:42 PM
6

Don't do nice things for people who don't appreciate it, simple as that. It doesn't mean you have to be a total dick. It sounds like you were a pushover who went a full 180, when really you just needed to stop putting effort into relationships that weren't worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:40 PM
3

What dating market? I never see this crap outside of late-teens, early 20s people, and even then it's not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:36 PM
2

Is BP a worldview? I thought it was solely to mock RP'ers, no offense. RP is sexual strategy and emotional manipulation. It's a single set of guidelines on how to interact. Personally, I think its a bad way to conduct yourself and there are many, many other ways to live. I don't think BP offers any advice on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:32 PM
1

That's even worse. This is just a homework assignment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:23 PM
1

That's why I said anecdotally and put in a disclaimer. But in my experience, sexual strategy is something that gets used most frequently in the party scene, by RP'ers and non-RP'ers alike. RP appears to be a handbook for this behavior and proposes that it be used everywhere. Does that summarize it better?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:17 PM
1

Its not the only way, but it celebrates its followers and shames its detractors? That doesn't sound as open to alternatives as you make it seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:13 PM
1

I think TRP is trying to solve a real problem surrounding modern male identity, but I think it's completely backwards. I think it gets the results it promises: manipulating women into sex. But I don't think thats what most men truly want in the long run. It may be fun, but won't lead to happiness. I don't bother going into TRP and changing minds, mostly because it won't work. People have bought in, and that's that. They'll stick with it until something drastic changes their opinions. But I am ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:10 AM
1

I don't think it's a gender thing as much as a friendship thing. A girl with a crush on you will give you shitty advice. A girl who is your friend will give you their best advice, limited by their own dating ability. Likewise, a guy who doesn't like you, or is jealous of your prospects will give shitty dating advice. It's not about surrounding yourself with the proper gender, it's about surrounding yourself with good people who are genuinely your friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 05:01 AM
1

A single academic paper doesn't prove anything. It's one piece that advances one finding in a sea of scientific works on the subject. This material may be accepted as a general theory or completely debunked by the larger community. It literally has no meaning without a larger context.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:56 AM
1

Anecdotally, it seems that TRP focuses on the party/club/bar/hookup scene, and how to get laid in that environment. That would be a self-selecting group, and limit the type of people you would meet. That's just from what I've read in my limited time here, so I may be wrong, but I don't see a lot of posts about how to meet nerdy bookworms, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:45 AM
1

I am now, after being married for a while. I was a total asshole when I was single though, so I'm honestly still surprised my wife stayed with me. It's embarrassing that I had so many relationships fail and couldn't figure out why. I always thought I was a 'nice guy' but really I was just inconsiderate and thoughtless. My self-proclaimed perfecfion was keeping me from seeing my flaws and actually working on them. My wife says that she wasn't great herself, and we both grew up a lot over the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:41 AM
1

Checkmate. I think you need to understand how academic articles work. This is the view of a single researcher doing independent research. It doesn't necessarily represent the viewpoint of all, a majority, or even a small number of professionals in anthropology or any other field. All we know is that it's one researcher who wrote one paper. It may be part of a larger series that have similar findings, but it's still only the one guy. This was likely written to be published in a peer-reviewed jour…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 04:03 AM
1

I think you're making that up. Do you have actual statistics to prove your statement that it's easier to leave a "BP" male? Most people don't identify as RP or BP, so how in the world would you even measure this, even if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:55 AM
1

Someone who sleeps around with little regard to who it is and why. I need to clarify that I don't see this as a bad thing. I also dislike the word 'slut', because of its negative connotations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:52 AM
2

I don't understand RP women. It doesn't seem like it's in their best interests, from what I can tell. But it's their life, and they can live it how they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:50 AM
1

Women used to die frequently in child birth, and it's hard to influence society when you don't live past your early 20s. Also, men are simply larger and stronger. Go back far enough to when might made right and you can see how that dictated who called the shots.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:48 AM
1

Atheist. Why does this matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:44 AM
3

It's the difference between people who like to party and people who don't. The whole debate is assuming that everyone on the planet wants to party and have sex all the time, and that avoiding those things is wrong. In reality, people have different interests and the party scene doesn't appeal to everyone. For those people, they'll have better luck meeting compatible people in other ways. Online dating, at the office, in the grocery store, whatever. My biggest confusion with TRP is that it claims…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/14 03:42 AM
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