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Reddit answer, the little llm they have. Rounded triangle at the top.
/r/MensRights31/12/25 12:10 AM
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How much? A lot: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/
/r/MensRights17/12/25 01:11 AM
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Here is a good starting point: https://www.cdc.gov/nisvs/documentation/index.html I’d love to see your sources; because I suspect they’ll use this same data but with different groupings used to skew the results. This is why the Duluth Model was put into effect: if you make it impossible for one group to be the perpetrator of a crime, they will be underrepresented as perpetrators of the crime. Same for UK rape laws that make it legally impossible for a woman to rape a man; something we all recogn…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:51 PM
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I’m sorry the two-part logic was overwhelming for you. You’ve admitted to being a misandrist therefore you’re a bigot. I can’t make that any easier; so if you don’t get that, I’m afraid you’ll be stuck where you are.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:48 PM
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The CDC disagrees. Your limited knowledge isn’t evidence of anything except your limited knowledge.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:36 PM
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Nope, reproductive laws(anti-abortion) limits everyone from having an abortion, including couples that make the choice together. It does primarily affect women though. Now compare your passion for arguing against something that mostly effects women to your support of the laws that effect all men, that you argue for. Bigotry is an ugly trait.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:34 PM
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Which?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:27 PM
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You being a misandrists is a you problem; I don’t particularly care if you admit to it. The fact that you feel facts are misogynistic shows the limits on how open you are to men being treated equally.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:27 PM
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Yep, I’m glad you highlighted the effect of sexist laws. Men make up half of DV victims but 95% of DV arrests because of the Duluth Model. That’s why it’s so important to talk about these discriminatory laws; so we can fix them.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:26 PM
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Your feelings don’t matter; the law does. There are no laws that limit women for being women; there are still many laws that limit men for being men.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:18 PM
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Your infantilization of women here is sexist and misogynistic and your application of it is misandry. Do you feel your life is improved through your bigotry?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:17 PM
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Women and men are equal except for the ways in which men are legally discriminated against. The example I gave was ended in 2025, thankfully. The Duluth Model’s influence continues to revictimize abused men through its sexist “wheel of power and control” that requires a man be arrested with the only evidence required being that he’s larger. I get that bigots can only see people as their demographics but that’s not reality and we aren’t going to pretend it is.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:15 PM
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There is no patriarchy, in the US at least. The “lacks institutional backing” part of this takes only a few moments to disprove to anyone that isn’t allergic to reading. For instance, is it insitutional for men to not be allowed to sue for workplace discrimination for generations?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:01 PM
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Kind of but women didn’t make the laws, they contributed along with men. Any law that has gender, sex, or any other demographic build into it will of course lead to skewed stats. It’s usually the whole point of adding the language.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/11/25 07:57 PM
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Ok, adjectivenoun####. We’ll take this deeply into account. Good bot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:34 PM
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I got the notification that you’d replied but it doesn’t show up for me, so it may have been removed. I didn’t see anything in it from the notification that would have gotten it taken down, so would you mind replying with it again so we can continue?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 03:59 PM
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We face lesser likelihood of sexual assault but greater risk for all other types of violent crime. If risk of crime victimization is an aspect, it seems it required discounting the vast majority of it to regard it as a system of oppression. It seems we’re in agreement about abortion, which is a good thing. It’s also telling that the vast majority of both men and women in the US want abortion to be legal and accessible. The rich people in power have decided we don’t get to have that. Another sign…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 01:48 PM
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Men don’t hold the majority of power though, that’s why we don’t live in a patriarchy. Women and men hold equal power.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 01:43 PM
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There is no patriarchy in the US. There is a plutocracy. Power isn’t given because of genitals. It’s taken by those with wealth, through political spending and controlling capital.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 12:47 PM
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I’ve asked a few people what an example of the “power” is, since as a man I’ve never been given authority over women, because I’m a man. I don’t believe that happens, but I’m very open to your examples.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/10/25 12:38 PM
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Ah, I can’t get into too many specifics on everything but one aspect you’ll notice soon is that power mods will go away, or at least that’s the goal. Mods will be limited to 5 subs they mod. This will lead to a lot of trading mod roles between people within the same echo chambers so there is another aspect that will mitigate that; I can’t talk about that part. There will also be admins looking at what accounts employ VPNs and bots, though that’s already somewhat in place. Other major changes too…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 10:10 PM
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Which part?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 10:06 PM
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There is no patriarchy, there is plutocracy. Happy cake day.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 10:01 PM
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People love to attack men’s height/wealth/manliness because they see those things as threats, instead of just aspects that are part of a man. Don’t give in the the feeling that you need to work for their approval; the people that say those things are anti-man and will hate you/us no matter what we do. Thankfully the majority of people aren’t misandristic. Keep an eye out for a general shift. Reddit is being forced to make some major sub/mod overhauls over the next few weeks.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/25 09:23 PM
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Yeah. I was listening to a podcast from Australia; similar situation there. Two police were on, speaking about how they disagree with the way they’re required to treat every man as the perpetrator by default and how they know they’re arresting the victim, but have to do it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/10/25 08:34 PM
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Try to not let it affect your relationship with your nephew. He will need someone that's willing to stand up to his mom.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/10/25 02:07 PM
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Maybe, but this theory doesn't fit reality, so it should only be discussed and disproven at that layer. If we try to act like every wrong theory needs to be brought into public dialog, I'd ask you; why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 03:01 PM
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This seems like a lot of conjecture and theory, which is fine for academics to ponder, but not for us to regard as something to build laws around. Gay men have the lowest DV rate, so I think the arguments you've seem are aimed to center men as the perpetrator, when they are statistically not. I can't really say more unless I know why the people making the claim did it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 02:56 PM
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Yeah, Duluth was there it was first put into law, that's actually where it was designed. Then it was pushed federally and put into law all over. Montana has a law, for example. that I have been discussing in a another sub: https://archive.legmt.gov/bills/mca/title_0460/chapter_0060/part_0030/section_0110/0460-0060-0030-0110.html
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 02:44 PM
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It is a framework that was put into law throughout the US. Men and women can both be victims so any model built around any beginning point other than that will have been implemented for discriminatory reasons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/09/25 02:32 PM
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The longer I go on living the more I realize the elites on the global stage play dog and pony shows with the rest of our lives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/09/25 06:40 PM
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Yes; awesome point!
/r/EverydayMisandry24/09/25 10:14 PM
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Maybe Spez can explain why men are specifically not protected by the Reddit rules, unlike every other group. If he won’t explain it, maybe someone can aggressively convince him to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 09:14 PM
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Yep
/r/MensRights24/09/25 04:20 PM
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I appreciate seeing someone with a similar history on here. Thanks for sharing!
/r/MensRights24/09/25 04:18 PM
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I'm sorry I was so aggressive. Misandry causes so much harm it's a sensitive subject and I may have read your post with an unfair filter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 03:29 PM
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You're right and I appreciate you calling out that they could have done it innocently. Calling out misandry softly doesn't do much, so I've chosen a more aggressive approach, which may not always be best.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 03:07 PM
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"Misandry Just Hurts Feelings But" is a ridiculous way to begin the conversation. It is the refrain we all see day in and out from anyone that wants to minimize the hate we receive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 02:03 PM
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Wow, another weeks-old account coming here saying anti-men things. It's almost like there are people that want to demoralize us. Misandry is systemic and causes immense harm to both men and women. Anyone that tries to minimize it's effect is wrong on so many levels.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/09/25 01:50 PM
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Thank you! I’m going to add this to my list of evidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/09/25 11:56 AM
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I really appreciate to see so many people here educated on this topic. I think a little more public awareness on how the model actually affects people, would do a lot of good to raise asap for men’s issues in general.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/25 02:53 AM
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Thank you! This is wonderful context and more info. A personal accomplishment: I saw “UN Women” and it only infuriated me a little. That group is one of the most harmful entities that exists, for men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 08:57 PM
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I’ve celebrated you and your great discussion style in this post many times but I have to call you out on this one. You and I had exactly this conversation yesterday, so I think you may be playing coy here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 08:31 PM
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The model is important because many US domestic violence policies are based upon it. The model is multifaceted; the part most germane to this sub is the presumption of guilt of men. What this means is that during domestic violence/abuse calls police are required to arrest the man, if there is no definitive evidence proving he is the victim. This skews violent arrest and crime stats, inflating male-perpetration rates, which is then used to excuse disproportionatly-high sentencings for men. TLDR: …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/25 07:23 PM
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I don't want to interject too much since you and I have already had a nice chat. I want to give a definition though so you two may be able to continue. It could lead to something good. Let's go with a systemic definition to keep things fairly pointed: Misandry is the application of policies, laws, or systems which either by design or lack of built-in-protections, lead to negative effects which primarily harm men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 09:06 PM
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Another good point, thank you. I can understand the argument for artificially controlling the sex/race makeup of zero-sum opportunities. I think though that is the wrong tactic. It seems it would be better to allow natural interest and blind-merit to guide enrollment and anyone that is accepted is then rated for scholarship/subsidization based solely on need. The scholarships I’ve seen are for general studies, which doesn’t land well with me when something like 62% of enrollees are women. What d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 05:45 PM
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Based on their answer I'd say abortion access is what they were implying. A very legitimate point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 05:02 PM
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That's a great point and I'll soften my statement, because your misogyny example is exactly correct. To me the systemic misandry is more exemplified by policies like female-only scholarships or admission slots. The stated purpose may be to uplift or support women but with women making up the majority of college enrollees, the behavior doesn't align with reality. Basically, we can't accept that something done that harms a group is necessarily being done under innocent motivations, just because th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 04:54 PM
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Right, because many feminists believe in the concept of a patriarchy in the US. That's where the issue breaks down. If we predicate whether or not something is harmful, on whether or not something exists, we have to prove r disprove the thing exists. Since we won't be able to settle that argument here we need to think to the victims, in this case men that are illegally discriminated against. Since the only reason these men are discriminated against is that they're men, the cause of the discrimin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 04:46 PM
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Wonderful argument! I think the incorrect belief that "patriarchy" exists in the US is a huge part of people's unwillingness to recognize the systemic nature of misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 03:51 PM
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The problem is that the argument that misandry isn't systemic required a willful misunderstanding of reality. The fact that laws exist which harm men for being men, is all the evidence required to see that the issue is systemic. Most people have never seen or heard of those laws because the journalists that inform them don't report on misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/25 03:50 PM
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Yeah, but they get to be that. It's not on them to do what we want them to. It's on us to motivate them towards action.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 01:49 PM
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They weren’t talking to you.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 11:44 AM
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This is hyperbolic. I’m all for arguing for fairness and equality but this is extremist language.
/r/MensRights17/09/25 04:51 AM
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If the promiscuity were the cause of the lack of attraction, I would agree. Instead we see that it’s not the number of sexual partners but the number of recent sexual partners. This shows it’s not about a general “purity” and there is no loss of value due to men. The loss of value seems to be because of a desire for external attention(possibly reads as validation). Edit: link to the recent vs past promiscuity study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12313963/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 04:32 PM
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I think it's great how you called it our for being misandry while also noting the extra hate that could be tacked on due to transphobia. It's both.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/09/25 08:41 PM
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They’re just people. I don’t get to demand they fight every battle just like I wouldn’t allow them to demand that of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:43 PM
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I mean yeah, it’s not “forced” but it’s coerced. I think most women have experienced being in the position of someone saying something clearly misandristic but not feeling comfortable to argue with it, just based on what my wife and women-friends tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:32 PM
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I think many women are in a tough spot; if they don’t repeat the things the extremists demand they do, they’re called a “pick me” and told they’re not supporting women. It’s a horrible position for a woman to be in because women are told to be pro-social and to support others. I don’t envy either side but I feel ok with knowing it’s the bigots that are the enemy, not the good men and women just trying to do their best. I totally understand why you feel the way you do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 08:07 PM
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I get why you have this worry because so many accounts on here, Insta, etc are so openly hateful. I don’t think it’s good to internalize that as a “woman” problem though, because that will push away the massive majority of women that aren’t extremists. Try to keep in mind that extremists are loud but fairly rare, and generally, their broken minds tend to keep them out of positions of power. Some slip through but especially lately, they’re being called out and fired for their bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:24 PM
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NOW in Ney York: Opposed a bill (A.10565) that would presume joint custody unless rebutted, arguing it favored a "primary caregiver (usually the mother) presumption" for stability. They highlighted that joint custody enhances "family chaos" in embittered cases and that mediation often leads to shared parenting without considering child welfare. This stance was reiterated in a 2006 editorial criticizing NOW's 40-year history of blocking shared parenting to maintain gender-based primary caregiver …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:13 PM
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I wish NOW would have argued for that then, rather than for female-custody being the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:12 PM
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I appreciate you bringing actual facts into this. It's so easy for some to make claims they know to be untrue to stop the conversation. You make it much harder for them to try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:54 PM
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NOW has advocated against that, why are you claiming they aim for it? EDIT, so we don't just back and forth: For example, in Michigan NOW opposed House Bill 4691, which would require joint legal custody and equal parenting time in disputes. Thankfully NOW failed to put more misandry into law here but they sure tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:49 PM
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Why are you bringing up women? The systemic misandry that is in-law today is purely about preventing men from having equal access to opportunities and protection under the law.
/r/MensRights08/09/25 07:49 PM
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Fortunately I fact check all misandrists. This one failed the test: NOW has argued against equal custody multiple times over it's history. We'll get into the specifics if you don't retract your lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:35 PM
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Did you spin up a new account just to come spread hate?
/r/MensRights08/09/25 06:06 PM
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Can you clarify what you mean by “recently” in context of when women’s access to education was limited?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:43 PM
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See how I’m pointing my criticism at your bad behavior rather than your demographics? It’s so easy to not be an evil bigot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:04 PM
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Do what you’re doing but don’t be a bigot while doing it. That’s the better way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:45 PM
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Do exactly that but without the bigotry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:36 PM
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“I’m comfortable letting my prejudice guide my interactions with people and it’s their fault if my incorrect assumptions offend them” This is a bad way to treat people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:18 PM
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Good reply. This person is a “red pill female”; they’ll reject anything you say like it’s her job.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:10 PM
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Yeah, they wanted proof, you gave it, and they rejected the proof. The enrollment and graduation rates themselves tell the story, this person just doesn’t want to admit that men are actually discriminated against.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 12:09 PM
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I agree with much of what you say here. I identified as a feminist for most of my life, until the last year. Seeing how anything anti-male is cheered I’m every feminist sub highlighted how fully misandrists have taken over the movement. I know much of it is rad fem brigading but we just don’t see any pushback against it. I worry the damage is done and there’ll be no way to get the majority of people to call themselves feminists again, until we’re able to purge the hate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/25 06:31 PM
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Maybe, but I know I won't vote blue again unless I see it purged of all anti-man rhetoric. I'm not alone in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 06:14 PM
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This is always the refrain but I know in my lifetime girls and women have consistently and appropriately been told they’re strong and capable. The fact the laws haven’t been updated is a sign that some group doesn’t want them to be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/25 07:56 PM
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There is no patriarchy in the US.
/r/MensRights26/08/25 09:18 PM
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Exactly. The abusers that use this type of rhetoric are the same ones to abuse their friends and partners. These same people will shame and bully women when they don’t speak negatively about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 03:29 PM
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There is literally zero us non-rapist men can do to decrease rape any more than we have. I won’t take on responsibility for something I can’t have an effect on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 09:01 PM
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It’s so taxing needing to find actual text to combat these baseless posts. Thanks for pointing out the manipulation and misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 12:55 PM
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When you see a 4 year old account with no karma gender-war, assume they’re a bot. So many on here will argue the way these few have. It’s gross and reductive. Thanks for keeping sane while dealing with their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:05 PM
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They’ve done this consistently in multiple comment chains in this post. They keep trying to manipulate and misconstrue other people’s words. Be ready for them to try to make you seem like you’re a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:37 PM
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That’s not what this person said. They said women lean more submissive on the dominance/submissive spectrum, which is true. You’ve again tried to misconstrue someone’s statement as an ad hominem attack. If this is how you hope to convince people of things it’s not going to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:33 PM
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No, you implied that Vance’s quote about childless cat ladies is the narrative spread through society. It’s not. You’ve done this in a few other comments too, when you take one example of something and try to apply it to groups as a whole. Your bigotry is very bad. Back to the conversation that you keep hoping to avoid: Misandry exists and causes harm, do you agree? Misogyny exists and causes harm, do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:18 PM
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Who taught it to you? Talk about where it’s observed. I suggest we also focus up on the core argument. Misandry exists and has real world harm, do you agree? Misogyny exists and has real world harm, do you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 03:07 PM
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Who taught you it? It’s not the dominant narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:56 PM
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Who taught you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:47 PM
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Women in my country are not taught this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:38 PM
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Each of those are hate subs. That’s why 90% of the posts on there are hate against men. Your logical leaps are when you generalize all men for behaviors of the tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:32 PM
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Why didn’t you display your 4b, radfem, fem separatist and other hate subs? People like you will manipulate and lie to convince people. All I have to do is share facts and let you whine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:20 PM
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Your misandry is showing in every comment. You base all your beliefs on what your hate subs feed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 02:11 PM
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You make a lot of big logical leaps without supporting them with anything other than your passion for hating guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:58 PM
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Exactly, we see it in the data: college-educated women are marrying at the same rate they always have. Poor/uneducated women are marrying at lower rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 01:56 PM
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Learning about the way Biden changed the AAP was a game changer for me. As soon as I saw that all business that contracted or subcontracted were required to demographically discriminate, I knew I wouldn’t ever vote for another Dem until there was a huge shift back to the center. I still couldn’t vote for Trump but I’m very glad we don’t have a Democratic in the White House.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/08/25 11:59 PM
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It’s important to stick with policies and laws we can point to that limit men. Misandrists will claim they don’t exist, which we all know isn’t true, and is easily disproven. Lately I’ve been focusing on the “background circumstances” requirement being argued against in the Ames v Ohio case. The enhancements to the AAP that Biden put in place, and the policies the OCCFP were under, prevented proven discrimination against men from being pursued by the government. At the same time the OCCFP pursue…
/r/EverydayMisandry19/08/25 02:43 PM
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This is a great point! I think it’ll benefit us to remember that many women are bullied into repeating misandrist things by other women. Any women that doesn’t “support other women” becomes a pariah.
/r/MensRights19/08/25 12:55 PM
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I agree. It's victim-blamey but I fully believe a lot of the hateful rhetoric happens because we don't speak up loudly or aggressively enough to shut it down. There aren't men writing articles about misandry, so it only comes up online. Men don't loudly reject politicians that propose or support laws that keep the legal systems the way they are. We can change things but change isn't handed to us. We have to demand people hear and believe us.
/r/MensRights29/07/25 08:12 PM
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I agree, it's a very clear example of a two-tier system. I think it's important to talk about these things because of how easy it is for people to claim misandry isn't systemic. It's time to start pushing that in people's faces so anyone claiming otherwise has no leg to stand on. I don't think this means women are bad or society hates men but I do think this type of policy is a direct reflection of a significant different in the level of concern of harm we have for men vs women. "Unconscious bia…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 08:40 PM
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I'm not a legal expert but I know a policy that is designed to skew data. Check out how Australian judges are instructed to view and question men that claim to be victims of domestic violence: https://judicialcollege.vic.edu.au/eManuals/FVBBWeb/index.htm#34578.htm
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/07/25 04:23 PM
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