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I doubt that person is fully asexual then. An asexual couldn't really conceptualise "hot" since they don't find anyone hot. That's the definition of asexual. That person who is "asexual" but like "hot" people seems like an allosexual with a lower than usual libido for their age group or whatever. It is not the same as asexual. I noticed asexual is used for everything now. Lower libido, finding only a few people attractive in a given time, etc. But that is not what asexual is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:13 AM
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I doubt asexual women would care about looks. I am not asexual personally but I am guessing the only thing they would need him to be is hygienic and not smell badly since most of them still want non-sexual physical contact. But looks per se? I don't see how that would matter to asexual women. They won't snog or bang so how would they have a 'type'?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:08 AM
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Some allo asexual relationships work too. More than you think. Of course if the asexual is repulsed then no. But if they are sex favourable or neutral it can and does work. Plus some of those relationships are open and the all is allowed sex with other people. Not all asexuals are comfortable with this but some are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:58 AM
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Nobody is entitled to any personal relationship with anyone else whether it is friendship, dating, marriage, business partnership or even being flat mates. Personal relationships are not a civil right like healthcare or education. They are very personal choices. Choosing whether and with whom to form a particular personal relationship is freedom of association. Nobody owes you or anyone dating and/or marriage just because you are an employed, law abiding person. Personal relationships are deeper…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 04:33 PM
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THIS!!!!! First and second scenario you are a person in a body. In the third you are just a body like a doll. Disrespectful and objectifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:19 PM
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This is a very nebulous definition. And complete sexual expression is a relative concept just like hapiness i.e. something that makes you happy may not make me happy. Same for sexual expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:09 PM
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APPLAUSE! In other words: "People are NOT objects."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:06 PM
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They are not enforcing it upon anyone. It is impossible to enforce a standard on someone who doesn't have it to start with. For example, nobody could force me to adopt a "I need a rich man so I can be be a SAHM" because I would hate being a SAHM in the first place. I would feel dependant, vulnerable and pull my hair out with boredom all at once. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 10:02 PM
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OH YES THEY DO! THEY VERY MUCH DO! I volunteered for a LGBT charity for a year or so and bi women were disowned, kicked out of their homes and physically attacked at the same rate as lesbian women and gay men. One woman's straight partner tried stabbing her when she came out to him. You must live in a parallel universe to think bi women are from violence, harassment and ostracism for who they love. If only!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:22 PM
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So if Fate forbid your other half died are you trying to say that you would want to die with them that very moment???????? :-(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 07:39 PM
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You hit the nail on the head! Semantic problems lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:52 PM
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Why do they just have to age out of it together? There are many instances when one part of a younger couple cannot have sex anymore due to certain lieflong conditions, chronic pain, losing mobility and sensation from the waist down, at times one even becomes quadriplegic. And no, not all of them separate. I watched a documentary about six or seven couples like that (all under 40) and how they make it work. Some became open couples but not all. The non-open ones still stayed together. The one who…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:49 PM
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You believe in destiny and that people come in halves in this day and age? I don't think anyone is anyone's other half because we are all whole human beings. People choose to share their life with other whole human beings. Not halves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:18 PM
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Thank you for this vivid description. I am glad you enjoyed it. It somehow makes me glad I am aromantic. Expereincing this kind of love would be waaaaay to intense for me. I think I would literally faint or go into a coma lol. Friends, physical friends I like that. Imma stick to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:09 PM
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Most don't but some do. And not just aromantics either. Their choice is valid too. Also some people have a more business arrangement like marriage rather than romantic. And not just arranged marriage folks. Some people who were disappointed, traumatized or had a lot unrequited romantic love or grew tired of looking opt for the above dynamic. As long as the two people are honest and on the same page I don't see the problem. Their life their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 05:04 PM
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She could very well be heterosexual but not have a physical type like me. As in she is attracted to people with penises, no boobs and some facial/body hair but she doesn't care about their height, build, complexion, eye/hair colour, if they wear a beard or not, etc. That is still heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 06:09 PM
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Don't speak for the whole human speacies thank you very much. Maybe you are vain, I certainly am not. And people's faces and bodies do change. Age, hormones, medical conditions and/or the side effects of medication, etc. It is not just bone structure and diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:59 PM
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THIS! Bodies change, often a lot. Core values, personality traits, humour, ways of dealing with problems not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 02:56 PM
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I don't care if people in general find me attractive. If I did I wouldn't have an alternative aesthetic, bed hair and no makeup. I am hoping that whoever I find attractive at a particular time find me attractive back (as does everyone). I don't care about the majority finding me attractive. That would be a hassle plus I would be getting cat calls/harrassment and crap which I luckily never got so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:57 PM
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Why do you care what a woman you are not dating and shouldn't be dating (because you have a gf) thinks if you are hot? (facepalm)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:51 PM
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That's why ASSuming makes an ass out of everyone. Similar morals more or less yes. For example I would not be friends with anyone who hits their partner/s or kids. Or if they are a violent person in general. Lifestyles not so much. For example I am vegan (half by choice half by circumstance aka food intolerances) most of my friends are not. I am atheist, childfree and not into marriage/LTR yet quite a few of my friends are religious (not radicals or fanatics) who want children. We still socialis…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:49 PM
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You are disgusting making generalizations like that. White women are not status symbols because they are people not objects. There are stunning people in every ethnicity. Plus biracial people are generally considered more attractive. Maybe not in your white supremacist worldview though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 02:07 PM
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You are racist and ASSumptive. Why are you assuming that he is fetishizing her? And why do you think blonde hair is better than dark and more worthy of passing on?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:58 PM
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Why do you like superficial things in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:54 PM
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Those seem very irrelevant and shallow things to base one's value on. So you don't base your value on how kind, helpful, empathetic, understanding and open minded you are? Just looks, money, amount of friends (never mimd the quality of those friends). Plus what do your kids have to do with your value? You are very odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:52 PM
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So you are an egomaniac who lives for the opinions of others? I can't relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:46 PM
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To each their reach I LOVE this phrase. And it rhymes! A lot of people that have a strong physical type don't get it. Us energy peeps get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:22 PM
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I RELATE HARD to this! Especially because I don't have a physical type and am more energy drawn. Happens allll the time. I am not bi though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:20 PM
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It doesn't have to be a rare type. It could be that the friend group is from the same culture and prefer to date within their culture for both aesthetic and compatibility reasons. The friend may not identify with the culture and prefer to date men from their 'soul' culture because she finds them more attractive and their values align more.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 01:17 PM
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Yes! People look in the wrong places.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:43 PM
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STANDING APPLAUSE! This! I agree. If they don't accept you for all of you they are not for you. Same goes for hiding any important information about yourself. Someone my great aunt knows hid their ethnic background from their wife because of wider culture of that country and how his ethnicity is viewed there. He told her after a couple of months and she left. When he asked why she left him she said: "I didn't. I wasn't with you. I was with an illusion of you."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:41 PM
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That's UTTER rubbish! If they are straight why would they say thay they are bi and risk violence, harrassment and ostracism?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:37 PM
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There's loads of non biphobic women. The trick is to move in artsy and/or activist circles and date only bi/trans or non-binary women. Super cis, traditionalist, straight women do tend to be biphobic unfortunately especially if they are not the "alternative" type.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:35 PM
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YES! Same goes for all queer folx. Why date a transphobe if you are trans? I am straight and not trans but I would never be in any personal relationship with people who are homo/transphobic because our values would clash.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:33 PM
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Just FYI non-monogamous people have children too if they want them. Not saying you should be non-monogamous if you don't sway that way but there are open couples with children and even committed triads with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 10:27 PM
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Because someone who is a 6 in one person'd eyes is another person's 9 (as much as I hate this ranking people by number as if they were objects). People value different things in a relationship and want different things out of it. For example just because someone is very conventionally attractive doesn't mean their attraction patterns are conventional. A Gillette/Loreal model could be attracted to chubby people or to the same sex as them. They could be drawn more to energy than looks. I had a mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 02:28 PM
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Rape is a thing unfortunately Pregnancy doesn't only result from consensual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:47 AM
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THIS!!!!! Lots of wise takes with this one winning. Sex inclusive isn't the same as sex based. You are right about it being foolish to have have a sex based connection (not sex inclusive) because it means the connection is lost if/when one person cannot have/doesn't desire sex anymore for whatever reason i.e. age, medical, time/stess, other priorities, long-distance (i.e. military spouses). We know our companionship is based on the 99% of our time spent together living, laughing, knowing each ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:10 PM
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I don't think they are widley represented here either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:04 PM
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A very logical take on your part. And I would say very true and realistic. Just because someone is sexually incompatible with someone doesn't make either of them asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 07:03 PM
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Or people who cannot have sex or find it painful/difficult due to certain chronic medical conditions or medication side effects. Some start off having sex and then the mirigating circumstance happens. Their relationship doesn't stop being romantic for that reson alone. And people deal with it in different ways either by becoming ethically non-monogamous or using self-pleasure/toys/something intermediate i.e. one partner cuddle the other while the other self-pleasures so technically they are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:58 PM
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Not all relationships are, or need be romantic in nature. Socialising with family, friends, acquaintances and collegues is also social ineraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:49 PM
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STANDING APPLAUSE AND A KNEELING BOW TO YOU! You explained it spot on. Extra kudos for these: " Interestingly I see a lot more people claim women to be asexual because for a lot of women sex just works different than for men. Yes! This does happen. People misusing asexual for responsive desire or having a lower libido. And the last paragraph. Big agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:44 PM
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Heterosexual means EXCLUSIVELY attracted to men. Meaning every time she is attracted to someone it happens to be a man. It doesn't mean attracted to most men. It doesn't matter if they source of attraction is appereance, personality, style/grooming, musical talent, whatever. For example a woman is only attracted to attracted to men with black hair and blue eyes no ifs, no buts,no exceptions she is still heterosexual. It also applies to fetishists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:38 PM
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Whaaaaaaaat? Some people are silly. A lot of people are drawn to energy/vibe/personality over looks. And if that draw is wanting to take someone's clothes off they are NOT asexual. They are just not looks focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 05:59 PM
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Heterosexual people can get HIV. HIV is not curable. It can be spread by oral or any kind of intercourse apart from fingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:28 PM
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No you don't NEED to get laid. You just want to! You won't die, collapse unconscious or lose a limb if you don't have sex with a woman or any person for that matter. Pinky promise. As for releasing tension/scratching the itch use your hand/sillicone doll. That's what they are for. You are not entitled to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:20 PM
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And why should they get married unless they want to? Why should ANYONE get married unless they want to? If people want to fling it and party so be it. It's not illegal. If they want to globe trot, have twenty hobbies at a time so be it. If they want quiet, solitudinous, slow living great! People are wired differently and want different things out of life. There are as many ways to live as there are people on this Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:44 PM
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May be the case for some. I think more of them are single and childfree by choice. People who really want a partner and children for whatever reason may not be able to see it but not having a partner and children has a LOT of advantages. And some just don't feel the pull towards the partner+kids lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:39 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:01 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:01 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:01 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:01 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:01 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:01 PM
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Not true. PLENTY of women hobbyists. PLENTY! There may be less of them into cars, gaming or sport (although a fair amount are) but there are other hobbies. Here is a list of hobbies this woman has: Spanish dance, acro dance, meditation (chanting and breathwork) , cooking, baking, gardening, needlework, crafts, globe-trotting. There are much less men into those hobbies so you can be sure I didn't pick it from a guy. Some I found randomly, some I got from my grandmothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 05:00 PM
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Not in my book. A suggestion is not automatically smart just because of who says it. Whoever suggests risky and stupid things gets a thumbs down from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:12 PM
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OMG!!!! You sound like my twin. I am not into nails but I am into Thai massage. And I MUST go to those by myself. A lot of women I know book them together. I have played cards/board games with friends from early evening to early hours of the morning too. Same for outdoor swimming.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:05 PM
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A lot of women DO do that but a lot do NOT. This woman (me) never actually goes shopping as such alone or with friends. All my clothes is second hand either from online outlets or my local charity shops. I hold 0 interest in mani/pedis. What I do with my friends both men and women? Go to the cinema/theatre, go to a music event, take a walk along the river and then have a drink/eat, inviting each other to try each other's hobbies (i.e. taster class), try something new i.e. to walk a half marathon…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 07:02 PM
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Politics has nothing to do with it. Community means people to talk to, exchange advice with, mutually aid, laugh, etc You know......friends Do you not have friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 06:51 PM
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Getting someone drunk poses issues around clear and free consent as well as being high risk sexual behaviour for a reason. An intoxicated person whether through alcohol or drugs is more impulsive, has delayed reaction time and a sort of brain fog. They often forget condoms and their safe word. If you are not in the mood sober DON'T do it! That goes for mean and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:14 PM
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Why are you ASSuming that she is overweight?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:16 PM
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Those women are either gang affiliated or drug addicted themselves. So no, not those women. Not the women you should be aiming for. I meant run of the mill, sober, law abiding women with a job, a roof over their heads, friends and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:30 PM
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There are all sorts of people in the world and some naive and/or doormat types might be attracted to Dark Triad personalities (also some late teens early 20s naive women). However, most mature, intelligent women who value themselves will not. If someone is rude, condescending, arrogant and manipulative they are OUT in my book. Attractive women with a brain (by that I mean a good judge of character) DO choose partners on how kind and polite they are to their family, friends and strangers regardle…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:05 PM
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EXACTLY! It is silly and redundant putting physical stuff when there are photos and you have eyes. Plus it would feel like slavery if one felt they couldn't change their hairstyle, hair colour, try out some coloured contact lenses or a new fashion sense just because they are in a relationship lest their partner is suddenly put off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:49 PM
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I think you nailed it! It must be the influencers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:40 PM
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Exactly. Travel is not just interstate/international.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:21 PM
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Nobody is perfect. Therapy is for self-reflection, widening perspective,self-esteem improvement, etc. You don't have to be severely depressed or an addict to go to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:12 PM
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Promiscous men. Men into the swinging scene, BDSM, open relationship of some sort (ranging from monogamish to DADT) polyamorous men maybe (although polyamory is a different category. MUCH more than sex and some relationships in the set up are emotionally open but not physically). It's not only monogamous, vanilla people who want life partners you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:09 PM
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A lot of "attractive" women, whatever that means to you, would automatically and rightfully, write you off for putting other women down. Disrespect is a turn-off. Being heavily looks focused is off-putting to people who are less looks focused. I even (and I get them) heard some women say they ignore profiles that say "looking for a slim blonde" even if they ARE a slim blonde. Smart thinking if they want a long-term relationship/marriage since they may want to become a readhead for a year or so. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 12:59 PM
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It' not always insecurity. Some people like familiarity when it comes to looks and some like difference. Average and chubby people who don't go to the gym (some chubby and average people do go to the gym but not with appereance based targets) might simply find the visibly gym body i.e lots of definition, broad shoulders, etc just a bit "off". One slim but average non-athletic woman phrased it as "a bit alien" and "like a walking anatomy chart". As a slim but average and unathletic person myself …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 07:06 PM
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I hope you got criminal record for animal abuse for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:34 PM
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You have your comfort zone, other people have theirs. I want my men to have friends, go away with them, go on overnights trips with them etc I would personally feel comfortable with my partner doing that with female friends too. But that's me (and some other women I talked to). On the other hand, most affairs happen between colleagues, regular hobby acquaintances or even semi-strangers, especially where someone travels a lot for work. Less affairs happen between long-term friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 04:47 PM
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If they are a legal adult yes. Kids pay taxes? You had a pay slip tax deduction when you were seven?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:01 AM
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People in prison can't vote WHILE in prison. It is not a life time ban. Children don't work or pay taxes or rent houses that'd why. They are dependent on those who do. Every legal adult has skin in the game. Unmarried renters without children still work, pay taxes, pay their rent, drive, or use public transport without their parents and are affected by changes around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:39 AM
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Erm, I wasn't doing anything illegal. The charity I was with is a legal charity, out and open with what they do, registered with the local council, had a registration number, everything. To me only actions are illegal not existence. An undocumented immigrant who hasn't comitted a crime is not illegal since they didn't do anything illegal. Also, being a paramedic is not something everyone can do like making tea at the local care home and chatting to the elders (my current volunteering gig). A par…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 12:33 AM
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Most people don't adopt either domestically or internationally because adoption is HARD. Hard to get approved. Also, people who DO want to adopt want babies and toddlers who look similar to them, and are not disabled. Most children available for adoption where I live are aged 7-13, ethnic minority and/or disabled. I am not a "fuck you I got mine" person. If I was I would believe in paying for healthcare and education , wouldn't care about the environment and wouldn't do charity/volunteering work…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:45 PM
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I am 40 fyi. Women don't have any privileges. Having the choice to live ones life how one wants is not a privilege. It id a right. I know only men are drafted and it is wrong. Stop assuming my opinions. You assumed I think only men should be drafted. Actually, I am fully against the draft and military service for both men and women. It is very, very wrong in my opinion. The only people who should be soldiers are those who choose to do so, pass the entry requirements and get paid for it like any …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 10:28 PM
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Do stop ASSuming people don't know things. I know people from Eastern bloc countries faced the possibility of getting shot trying to illegaly cross into the MUCH freer Neutral bloc Yugoslavia). Most didn't even try but the brave ones that did and made it didn't do it with the intention of going back (unless they took an even bigger risk to help others cross). My mum grew up in Yugoslavia from 14 to 25 so she told me. That's how I know. Her aunt and her neighbours helped a few dozen people cross …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:42 PM
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Well, I am already a public servant since I work in education (Wellbeing Mentor for 16-19 year olds). I volunteer at a care home twice a week (I LOVE it) and have volunteered at a charity for people with no recourse to public funds (due to having grey area legal status in the country i.e. human trafficking victims, had a spouse/partner visa then separated, etc) for five years. I was there pretty much every other day physically and sometimes helped via their phone helpline. I have done some form …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 09:26 PM
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I am not American but I knew about a lot of Americans not travelling. I travelled a LOT in my 20s and early thirties but I also worked and lived in those places or was visiting family and friends. A lot of people I know did it too and they are not rich. Quite common in Europe. I never lived in the 60s, 70s or 80s and was too young to remember early 90s so I can't compare the generations. My generation is still social but less so house parties and local dances kind of social but more activity/hob…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:31 PM
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Good job you are not in power or you would be some kind of dictator. Your ideas are extreme and quite frankly deranged. No voting or well paying jobs for non-parents????? WTF?????? One's skill at and passion for a job should be the deciding factor not whether they have children. What is a well paying job according to you? Only six figure salaries or anything above the minimum wage? How about average salary jobs like education, healthcare, social work, bus driver, museum staff, administrator, etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:16 PM
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I know abortion and contraception was banned but how would a celibacy tax be enforced lol? What if someone crossed over into neighbouring Yugoslavia, got sterilized and went back to Romania. Technically they didn't abort, use contraception and they may not be celibate but they are not having a baby. I know about the monthly gyno exams and the overflowing orphanages :-(. That was super sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:20 PM
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I actually am fine with voting being solely for married people/people with children/property owners, one of those. Whaaaat? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:15 PM
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Erm voting should not be a duty. It should be a right but not a duty. I don't vote, never have and never will. My family tend to be non-voters. EVERYONE aged 18+ should be allowed to vote. Marital status, having children should not affect it or anything else for that matter. Just like your profession or where you live should not affect it. Btw some people CAN'T have children fyi. Not even with IVF or any other assistance. Also military service is a waste of time and the draft is a crime. Only pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:11 PM
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EVERYONE pays taxes proportionate to their income aka their tax bracket. Marrying and having children is NOT it is a choice. and it should NEVER be a duty. Just like your profession, where you live, whom you associate with in your free time are choices. Forcing those who don't want to be spouses and parents to be those things results in them being miserable and resentful and the children and spouses neglected. Nobody needs that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:59 PM
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I am woman and I don't and I have never believed two wrongs make a right. They just make more wrongs. What is your problem with women? And why are you sooooo obssesed with birth rates? There are 7.5 BILLION people on planet Earth. We have more than enough people. Also with fast developing technology (AI), job outsourcing and increased immigration due to climate change and its effects having less children in developed countries is better. Anyway nobody is stopping you from having kids. Find someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:49 PM
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Maybe yes maybe no. Many date for fun/pass time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:35 PM
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Both ARE bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:12 PM
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Single men have been shamed, psycho-analyzed and subjected to fearmongering and slander And they should NOT have been. It is not time to turn the tables. Two wrongs don't make a right. It is time to STOP stigmatising, shaming, psychoanalysing and villifying ANYONE for living in a way different from most that is not hurting anyone such as being single. Nobody is harming anyone or stopping anyone from finding a partner by living solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:12 PM
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You REALLY need to get out and talk to people more. Or at least look around more when/if you do go outside. There are plenty of couples where one or both people are overweight/obese. People's tastes vary and they are to some people's tastes. Ditto for the lady being in her 60s. Seniors date and marry. There was a documentary series (it went on for years) in Spain about seniors looking to marry and finding people to marry. The participants were 65+ (it was a requirement). Most were long-time wido…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:04 PM
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Well there already are co-housing projects and intentional communities and they are non-religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:39 PM
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So they didn't have hobbies, didn't travel (even domestically), didn't do any volunteering/community work (it can be non-religious)? ??????? Only work and gym? I cannot relate. At all. And I am on the introverted side.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:37 PM
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Really? Must be your experience then. It is the opposite of mine but I guess it depends on what circles you move in. I happen to know a lot of single-at-heart, relationship anarchist type of people. I guess those who don't value friendship and pour all their energy into their romantic relationships keep their friendships surface level.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:32 PM
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Most millennials who start families do so in their mid to late thirties rather than twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:27 PM
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Surplus men? What is that? People are not objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:16 PM
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Older people regardless of gender are already targeted for robberies more often according to police statistics. Also goes for street robberies. It would not be a new thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:14 PM
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"Many women’s worlds just don’t revolve around men."] THIS! It is not just career they may want to prioritise. It could be their hobbies, free time and not having to discuss major life decisions with anyone such as where to live, household management, money management, where/when to go on holiday, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:10 PM
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It is way higher than 0.01%. Even if it was 0.01% everyone matters. The whole Chad idea is stupid. I still can't wrap my head around the concept. Some people just don't want a "plus one" so to speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:06 PM
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Why STEM men? What makes you think you are superior? You are no better or worse than other people making an honest living i.e. plumbers, electricians, authors, shop keepers, artists, dog walkers, what have you. Only women are allowed in education????? LOTS of male teachers where I am based. There has been a sharp increase in the past seven years actually. I am a well-being mentor at a school and four out of seven of my team are men. Having kids is a PERSONAL decision that affects one's life grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:48 PM
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Why STEM men? What makes you think you are superior? You are no better or worse than other people making an honest living i.e. plumbers, electricians, authors, shop keepers, artists, dog walkers, what have you. Only women are allowed in education????? LOTS of male teachers where I am based. There has been a sharp increase in the past seven years actually. I am a well-being mentor at a school and four out of seven of my team are men. Having kids is a PERSONAL decision that affects one's life grea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:48 PM
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That is a very narrow-minded view. One: life takes people in different directions all the time. Friends, family, etc. Romantic partners separate all the time. I know quite a few lifelong single people in their 50s and 60s with VERY active lives. Lots of passions/hobbies, travel more than families, part of a few different social groups, involved with the community/volunteering, etc.And of course they have jobs. No idea why so many people have a silly idea that all older single people just sit aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:33 PM
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Non-autistic here. Never wanted kids. Info point: Introverted/solitudinous is not the same as autistic. Facepalm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:26 PM
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It is not common but not super uncommon either. Especially for people who are demisexual (lots of my friends are) it is the the norm since knowing the person and developing an emotional closeness IS what triggers the attraction for them. Not looks, not stye, not them being a whizz at something just knowing the person on a deeper level and connecting (vibing) with them. Now MOST people are not demisexual but a fair number are (some may not know or use the label but it doesn't mean they are not). …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:52 PM
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OMG! Same!!!!! Maybe the people who think it's impossible are rural Amish where everyone has kids in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:45 PM
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A very usual thing. At least in large European cities. Literally ALL my friends, colleagues, acquaintances and my mum's clients had kids from 35-45. Some even had twins and one (my dance instructor) had triplets! I haven't met a mum under 35 for years now. This 'must have kids in my twenties' mania seems to be common in the USA. I just don't get it. My own mum was 32 when she had me and one of her friends 37 when she had her son my best frenemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:44 PM
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But something being legal doesn't mean it's right. Biologically 18 year olds are adults. Psychologically they are teens. Also being a legal adult is different ages for different purposes. Like 18 (where I live 16) for consent but 21 to drink alcohol? Why is that? Getting pregnant as a teen is a LOT more dire than getting drunk. I read about the brain maturing until 25 in various places. My advice: Don't have a baby until at least late 20s. Your body may be ready but the rest of you isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:33 PM
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A child gets 50% of the genes from the mother and 50% from the father. You were supposed to learn that in primary school. Plus being pregnant older than 30 is not a big deal. In my city the most common age to get pregnant is 35+. Most mothers at my school have kids at that age and 98% of those kids are not disabled. Not that being disabled is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:13 PM
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Medically not true. Most women experience menopause from age 48-53.p Not 30 (facepalm) Are you from outer space? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 10:05 PM
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A smart point at last. There is and always has been a subset of people who are not looking for long-term, exclusive relationships or who are non-monogamous i.e. an open couple
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:50 PM
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It's entitlement from anyone to feel as if they have a right to anybody's body or companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:45 PM
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They are not greedy. Women are not property one can hog. They are simply having an opportunity and taking it. Plus there are women who are non-monogamous and have flings with more than one man. It is not one sided. P.S. Sex is not food, air or water. Nobody needs it to live. Nobody is entitled to anybody's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:42 PM
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Applause!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:09 AM
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Then what else? Any office job? Btw the public sector has many non-office jobs that both varied and meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:07 AM
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I don't know if it escaped your notice (I don't live in the USA could be different there) but a lot of women aren't even in corporate job let alone robotic ones. A lot (most even) women here are in education, healthcare, social services, museums, local authority and environmental conservation also known as the public sector. As for the strict unwritten dresscodes all I can say is whaaaaat? In education (compulsory not university) the dresscode is clean and dressed. Literally! Yesterday, I went i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:05 AM
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I wasn't disputing that it's a thing I was trying to say that women and people in general who are close to victims of domestic abuse are less likely to fall for superficial charm, "edgy" behaviour or domineering tendencies because we know what's behind the veneer so to speak. and associate it with danger. Those who associate it with excitement probably aren't close to any abuse survivors. Just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:47 AM
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I don't know if it's most women since most of the ones I socialise with are not like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:58 PM
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They shouldn't take crap from ANYONE! Rich or hot. Makes for a better life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:08 PM
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No it does not. Especially as a woman who had to help countless friends and a few family members escape domestic violence from men like that (and a couple of women like that). I told a few of my friends to leave their early stage relationships once their partners started showing controlling/blackmailing tendencies but they thought I was overthinking it. I WISH I was friggin' overthinking it. Had to collect one of them in the middle of the night through her (luckily) ground floor window.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 07:07 PM
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Not not ALL of us! Some of us really don't have a physical preference in terms of height, build, hair/eye colour, complexion. We still may have a preference for a certain presentation i.e. mainstream/alternative fashion, beard/no beard, tattoos or not, etc but not immutable traits. I call us pansexuals of the straight kind lol. I met quite a few pansexual people and asked them if the rumor that they don't have any physical preferences is true. All of them said sort of yes. We don't care about th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 06:59 PM
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I am a European living in Europe (non-binary female) and I wouldn't mind more immigrants being women. If I was the policy maker I would give the most vulnerable women from developing countries priority in immigrating i.e. very poor women (i.e. those begging on the street) or queer women since it's illegal in most developing countries and they could live more authentically in Europe. Now how do we pitch this idea to the government for real? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 09:58 PM
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How is being either a virgin or gay bad? You are not hurting anyone by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 12:22 AM
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There is more to being a woman than giving birth. A lot of cis women can't or don't want to give birth for various reasons. They are still women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:37 PM
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Preferring a different lifestyle is not being inept. You need to move to a more freethinking place if most people where you live think that. A city would be good. I know a few professionally and socially successful single by choice, childfree people and nobody really cared. They had jobs, friends and hobbies just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/25 03:15 PM
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What about single at heart people? As in those not single out of disappointments or bad luck but wired to be that way? Some people just feel no pull towards long-term, cohabiting relationships just like they feel no pull towards a certain profession or other lifestyle. Being single is their desired status because it is the way they live most authentically.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:48 PM
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And there are many women who had children that they didn't truly want due to pressure from their parents, partners and the wider culture. I doubt anyone pressures anyone not to have children since not having children is seen as different. People are usually pressured into majority decisions not minority ones. Also some people genuinely don't want children and change their mind at some point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:44 PM
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You are NOT a loser. Whoever is conflating romantic relationships with morality is the actual loser. They also forget that there are aromantic/single at heart people around. Ignore those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 09:33 AM
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THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:45 AM
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THIS! Stay away from the cervix!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 06:19 PM
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There are way more modern women dating other women or being solo/single with a toy box than being part of harems pseudo or otherwise. Some women (and men) are in polyamorous relationships triads, Vees, whatever and that's A-OK. There are still less of them than people in the first paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:17 AM
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You could get some sex toys or go to an escort. No need to go around beating up random passerbys because you don't have a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:00 AM
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That's your view. I beg to differ. ANY family can be unstable. I grew up with my mum, her parents and her sister. My dad's friend was widowed when his daughters were 4 and 2. He never remarried. He raised them alone. Most of my friends were raised by single parents or in blended families. Neither I or those people above had an unstable upbringing. No violence, substance misuse, abuse, addiction poverty or anything else like that. However there are nuclear families with the above issues. It's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 07:02 AM
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Both are real things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:27 PM
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It doesn't need an institution or codifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:24 PM
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Why only father and mother? Two fathers? Two mothers? A mum or a dad with their respective biological families? Just mum? Just dad? Mum and dad who don't live together? All fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:20 PM
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It does but many people are not aware of the Planned Coparenting concept where two friends or FWBs start out that way. Most people hear divorced parents when they hear coparenting rather than the never married/cohabiting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:17 PM
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I agree. It is an intrinsic pulll one feels or doesn't feel. Like being drawn to a certain job sector (I was always drawn to the public sector and repelled by corporate) or a certain way of living i.e. big city vs. countryside.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 02:03 PM
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You are the smartest person on this sub! Some people don't seem to get this they’re about people designing intimacy and connection on terms that actually work for them. They just follow cultural scripts whether they suit them or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:26 PM
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Quick correction! Some asexuals want romantic relationships ( and many have them). Others are aromantic. Some non-asexual people are aromantic. Asexual doesn't always equal aromantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:15 PM
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Friendships, chosen families, community, co-living, creative partnerships — all of these can be rich, committed, and emotionally deep without being monogamous romance. THIS times a hundred! If more people thought like this there would be a lot less people feeling lonely and moaning just because they don't have an LTR romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 01:10 PM
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And thank you for challenging it. Not everyone is traumatised. Some people are more solitudinous than others i.e. introverts. Some people are easily overwhelmed. Some are highly autonomous and prefer to do things on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:37 PM
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She seems introspective, pragmatic and realistic to me. Most people on this sub are lost in fantasyland and drowning in magical thinking where relationships are concerned. Much to their future dismay. That's what I got too. A realistic person who knows what they want and is open and pragmatic about it. Nothing to do with hurt. Some people just find the idea of being someone's everything and vice versa really overwhelming. Especially more solitudinous by nature people like me. The OP could do wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:32 PM
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I don't judge anyone for being gay. If someone judges you for it, stuff them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:13 PM
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Exactly! Plus the best is subjective. Tiramisu may be your best or even most people's best but mine may be orange and almond cake because I put citrus in everything (I literally put citrus in everything).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:10 PM
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EXACTLY! Seems almost incestuous. And disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:08 PM
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Erm just so you know there are aromantic, single-at-heart and non-monogamous women. And men. While most people (men and women) want a long-term monogamous relationship, quite a few don't. And not because of feminism but because they are wired that way. Just like most people are wired straight but some are not, it is the same for wanting a long-term, monogamous relationship or not. Prefering flings, friends with benefits or other kind of non-exclusive short to mid term arrangements is not wrong o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 12:04 PM
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THIS times one thousand!!!!!! You took the words directly out of my head. Especially this: "We need to train people to care about themselves, that they matter. We need to somehow enable more platonic relationship forming, instead of making the romantic relationship the only source of social needs." Respect oneself. Respect others. Platonic relationships should be the base romantic ones an extra. Essence over labels (bodies are labels of sorts). #clanlife
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 02:53 PM
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Maria Montessori invented a whole new education system aka the Montessori Method. There are Montessori schools to this day. Elon may be a Nazi but Nikola Tesla sure wasn't. The point wasn't whether you heard of those people or whether they matter to you personally. The point was that they left a legacy even without having children. Teachers were considered Key Workers during the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:46 PM
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I wasn't talking abour dating a married man. I was talking about non-comittal casual dating lile friends with benefits, booty call and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 12:37 PM
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I see plenty of women like married with kids on the street and in my school. Same for the male equivalent. She is an average woman. Not Fiona Shrek.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:22 PM
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There is an inbetween version. Where everyone picks their own form of association. Solo, monogamous, polyamorous, chosen family, parenting co-ops, whatever. Everyone may not get their favourite form just like not everyone gets their first choice career for whatever reasons. It doesn't mean they have to despair. Well-adjusted people are still content and functional even if living a life different than their dream life. They make the most of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:18 PM
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Forced polygamy or forced monogamy or forcing women into any relationship is bad for women's rights. But if a particular woman chooses to be in a polyamorous/polygamous relationship because it suits her for whatever reason in a free society like ours so be it. Or chooses to be single. Or a nun for that matter. People can choose whatever they want even of those around them don't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:10 PM
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Depends on the woman. If she wants a long-term, exclusive, cohabiting relationship then it would benefit her. If she finds such a relationship annoying, restrictive, unappealing and has zero desire for it then no. Different strokes.....
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:59 PM
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Non-monogamous women are okay with being a 'side chick'. As long as they are informed about it. Not all women are looking for a long-term, cohabiting, exclusive relationship. Some of us are single-at-heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 07:57 PM
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Newsflash! Both men and women pay taxes if they earn above the tax threshold. I am a single woman who pays tax (proof my payslip) I am an average earner and still live comfortably. Aid like Jobskeekers and Disability Allowance is not just for women (facepalm). MANY men get those.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 10:33 PM
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Great words. However, you don't know if the poster above is good or not. You shouldn't have suggested he assault somebody. Assault is not a joke!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:51 PM
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Not true at all. There is more to legacy than offspring. Tesla never reproduced. Is he a failure? Maria Montessori neither. Is she a failure? Amelia Earheart? Isaac Newton? All people who took the world is a new direction. Also ordinary folks don't have to reproduce to avoid being a failure. There are people who produce new generations and those who help raise them. Teachers, mentors, counsellors, adoptive and foster parents, coaches and other role models. You don't have to make a child to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:49 PM
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THIS ×100!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:34 PM
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THISSSSSSSSS!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:09 PM
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Sperm bank may be way too far in your opinion and you are allowed to have it. But it is a perfectly legal and valid way of having children. Many women do it they just don't advertise it. Apparently it is becoming more popular lately especially in Scandimavian countries and the Netherlands. Btw sperm donation is anonymous. The donor doesn't pay any money to the mother or even meet the children. Coparenting doesn't have to involve you financing the kids either. You can agree to an avuncular role w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:51 AM
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Use in what way? The men who donated the sperm at the sperm clinic at some point WILLINGLY did so. Nobody walked them there with a gun to their head and forced them to deposit. Same for intentional coparenting. Both of those people agreed to that arrangement because it suits them for whatever reason (could be different reasons for each person). I.e. one person has a job where they travel frequently or for long stretches of time making a romantic relationship difficult but parenting still very po…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:03 AM
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They are not part of a harem. And even if they were it would be valid. If everyone in a relationship is a legal, consenting adult and not being abused all is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:44 PM
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The OP used responsive desire wrong. Desire based on personality, values, clicking with the person, etc is called secondary desire. Primary desire is based on physical appereance, voice, etc Responsive desire is when the fact that someone openly desires you turns you onto them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:42 PM
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No it is not. They shouldn't be pressured.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 09:31 PM
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most women are not resilient enough to willingly rise their kids as a single mother. This is utter rubbish. Women do 80%-90% of parenting even in LTRs. Also very few women will enter LTRs ONLY to have children. Especially now that not a day goes by without an article on how to raise kids single but not alone. More women than you think are resilient enough to raise kids as a single parent. The ones that don't want to do it alone can do it with family, friends, other single mums (google momunes) o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:25 PM
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Traditionalism won't work on progressive anarchists. Neither will communism. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 06:10 PM
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Erm, 21st century called to tell you that women with maternal instinct so not need to enter long-term, monogamous romantic relationships or ANY romantic relationship for that matter to have and raise children. Possible options: Sperm clinic to either raise the children solo or with family/friends. My mum raised me with her family when dad and her separated when I was two. Intentional Coparenting (aka Platonic Coparenting) when two friends or acquaintances not in a romantic relationship who decid…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 02:26 PM
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You HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD! Great way of understanding it. I am hetero too and don't need an emotional connection to be attracted to someone but I also don't have a physical type in terms of height, build, eye/hair colour or complexion (most people do and sometimes they find my attraction patterns weird. Everyone finds their pattern 'normal'). Since I have kinks/fantasies spontaneously I cannot be demisexual but in terms of the physical pull I am drawn to style, smile, gestures, expression, ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:05 PM
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THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:54 AM
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THIS! It's a statistics thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:43 AM
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If she was man-hating she wouldn't be going on a date with a man in the first place. There are women who don't care about the man paying even for the first date. I don't for one but then again I don't "date" in the true sense of the word as in getting to know someone to see if we are compatible for a long-term, cohabiting relationship since I those kind of relationships don't appeal to me. I meant to say I never expect (and I will moan of they insist) my friends with benefits and/or summer fling…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:41 AM
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VERY true. There are aromantic, solo poly and ENM bi women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 11:34 AM
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They are soooooo not! You are scary if you can't see the difference. Sterilization is mutilating somebody against their will and breaking their bodily autonomy in the worst possible way. It's like chopping someone's hand off. Not choosing to have children with someone or not to have children at all is your right. Nobody is entitled to children but everybody is entitled to ownership of their bodies, and entitled not to be mutilated or tortured.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:28 AM
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THIS THIS THIS times a thousand! Standing applause! You literally took the words out of my head. Seems like we have the same approach to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:29 PM
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They are not THAT non-negotiable for most men. There were always out of synch, desperate people around but if everyone who didn't have a wife and family went on a murdeous spree there would only be half the number of people in the world lol. I know plenty of people men included who would have loved to have a partner and children and tried their best but it just wasn't in their stars. None of them killed anyone or died an early death because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:27 PM
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Write the book. I am serious. You already have one buyer. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:23 PM
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Maybe you are not into luxury or nice things (neither am I and I am a woman) but most people including most men are into it. If only women were into luxury there would be no bespoke suits, sports cars, classic/vintage cars, Rolex watch or fancy aftershave businesses. They all make tons of money and are aimed at men. Good luck with the van life. I am not too far from it myself apart from wanting a stationary roof over my head lol. Other luxuries nope. I would NEVER be a sahm though. If your partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:09 PM
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No offence but Kyle sound violent. That profile of man always makes me repulsed not attracted regadless of what he looks like. The vibe itself is shivers and the fact that he is lazy, flaky and unhelpful makes it even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:53 AM
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Good job you stopped identyfiying as that because you are not that. important physical attraction was to me as well. I just needed both. You said it. Physical is important to you, you just need the emotional first. Lots of people do. Not unusual. If you were demisexual you wouldn't even experience the physical. It would be emotional only. Some describe it as "looks blind" or "only goes for the energy of the person". Rare but there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:44 AM
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THIS! It gets used incorrectly indeed. Demisexual doesn't mean needs emotional attraction as well as physical. Or that the emotional attraction is more important than the physical. It means emotional attraction is the ONLY one that makes them want to get busy with the other person. The only attraction that thry can feel. The physical is completely irrelevant. So are kinks/fantasies. Very few people are demisexual, so few, in fact that when they describe how their attraction works even without us…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:35 AM
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And there's no proof of women dating the same guy? And again - if they are, they're most likely not doing so willingy and knowingly... More women than you think are doing it willingly and knowingly. It's called casual or friends with benefits. Nothing new. The friends part means non-exclusive. There is and always has a subset of men and women not pursuing long-term, exclusive, cohabiting relationships because they prefer the opposite kind. Common in the arts/digital nomad or just general nomad l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 10:08 AM
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Raises eyebrows Only PIV intercourse is a sexual relationship? So fingering, 69ing, frenching someone are not sexual????
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:49 PM
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My thoughts exactly. He sounds like a very likely domestic abuser.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:14 AM
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Maybe he didn't want any. Childfree people are not a new phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:40 PM
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As well being pathologically jelaous thinking that every man is flirting or about to with his partner (facepalm). Then starts restricting what his partner can do so another man doesn't "whisk her away".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:16 PM
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INDEED! Smart response
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:58 PM
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THIS! My first thought when I read the 'sizes everyone up' description was violent and volatile i.e. NOT someone I would want near me or the kids if I planned to have them. Someone smart enough to avoid or descalate a dodgy situation is MUCH more appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:52 PM
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Well, some people are polyamorous. But even they don't fall for everyone (facepalm).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:16 PM
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VERY wise advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:15 PM
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Indeed. Most people both men and women have their physical types. Some have more of energy/personality type. A lot of sex addicts on here I see. Wanting to bang everyone? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:12 PM
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Some of us don't want ANY seed thank you very much. Not everyone wants offspring. Just because YOU want 20 children with 20 different women doesn't mean every man does. Also having that many children with that many women is (vomits) disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:09 PM
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Exactly. Only nymphomaniac male nature. There are nymphomanic women too mind you. Most people are not though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:07 PM
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Erm no it's not. Human intellect and a desire and passion to help humanity and leave a legacy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:06 PM
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Quite a few women over 40 are hot. At least to men their own age. If no man liked women over 40 then how did my my wonderful late neighbour marry her husband when she was 46 and he was 50? Thirty lovely years together they had until he died at 80. She lived until 94. Never married again but lived with her long-time widowed friend and neighbour my grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:05 PM
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You sound like an actual nymphomaniac.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:59 PM
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Agreed. I find the previous poster's perspective of friendship very strange. Asking someone are you OK do you want to talk when they are down is romantic partner territory???? wtaf??????
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 12:54 PM
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I agree expecting people to be mind readers is not smart. Please don't use ableist language such as the last word you typed. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:21 AM
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Erm, maybe she doesn't want to get pregnant. Most people wait more than a few months until they are committed to each other to have a baby. One can want and have sex for relaxation, fun, fetish not just to have a baby FML.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 08:15 AM
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Quite a few go for an androgynous look. Not every man is into curvy and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:16 PM
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THIS! It's painful and traumatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:57 PM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:42 PM
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They could be. Similar diets are convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:41 PM
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I <3 fish too. And all creatures. The women in question may not eat anything with eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 09:40 PM
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Exactly. It is only if you see them as an object instead of a person with a personality, afinities, hopes and dreams and a life of their own who happens to be gorgeous. And of course if you treat them with disrespect etc touching without permission/lewd language, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:43 PM
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It is not insanity. It is the only right way. Do you suggest we force people to have the children they don't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:08 PM
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Erm you are exaggarating. The current culture is not anti-children it's just not pressuring people like the culture of 60s to 80s. As for male-female pairings I see plenty of those around too. Not that you need a male-female pairing to even make a child nowadays (reproductive technology) let alone raise it. I was raised by my mum, her sister and her parents.I worked in education for over a decade now and I only 10-15% of the children I come into contact with are living with their mum and dad (an…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:06 PM
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A very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:20 PM
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Spot on! You are my new favourite person. You are right about many people not knowing. My Boomer mum and older Gen X aunt are VERY demisexual. I told them that most people are not. Them: then they are hoes. Me: FACEPALM btw hoe is a sex negative term. Not sex positive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:19 PM
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THIS! Desire doesn't always reflect actions and vice versa. Many gay men had sex only with women for decades (action) because acting upon their desires was illegal or socially unacceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:15 PM
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Or even 80 years ago lol. People had different turn-ons since the dawn of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:11 PM
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THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:10 PM
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How is it a virtue? No shame in being drawn to looks. Or energy/vibe. People are just describing how they are wired in terms of attraction. Just like some looks drawn people put more emphasis on the face than the body or vice versa, energy drawn people go more for smarts or more for emotions. I am 90% energy drawn and the looks part is more style, smile, geatures, look in their eyes than whether they are tall, short, fair, dark, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:09 PM
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That IS the asexuality statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 10:00 PM
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That's asexuals. The 1%. Like zero sexual desire no matter the bond/context. Demisexual is higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:59 PM
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Meaning assigned female at birth. Not all female assigned people are even female i.e. they may appear female at birth genitals-wise but have XXY chromosomes, no womb, and undescended testicles due to CAIS or PAIS. A lot of people are intersex in some way and don't even know it. It is not just ambigous genitalia. Also many 'typical' XX womb ovaries etc afab people don't identify as women. I have typically female anatomy yet I am non-binary. I just don't do gender. AFAB is presumed anatomy/hormona…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:52 PM
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Stop the transphobic language.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:47 PM
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They could be bisexual. Just saying. Also nothing wrong with gesturing a lot. Most South Europeans do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:13 PM
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They were shallow. A woman who is obsessed with penis size/finish time is just as shallow as a man who is obsessed with a particular boob size/shape. Someone like that would leave if their partner was to lose their penis, become immobile from the waist down or have a hormonal condition or lose their breasts to cancer. Those people wouldn't make good life partners because they would leave their partner at difficult parts of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:50 PM
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Most of my friends have kids but all are SMBCs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:42 PM
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What's wrong with divorced with kids? Not all divorced men are violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:41 PM
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I for one don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:39 PM
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True!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:39 PM
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APPLAUSE AND STANDING OVATION FOR YOU!!!!!!! Shame and rigid views on what sex is DOES hold people back for sure. Plus it is very ableist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:38 PM
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Using your hands is just as pleasurable and sometimes more so than using your penis. Both are sex. Masturbation is self-pleasure. Pleasuring another person IS sex. This intercourse is the only sex mentality needs to GFO. No man should feel embarassed by it. Just like no woman should feel less than if she has endometriosis or vaginal nerve inflamation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:35 PM
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Or he can plug in the fingers or strap on and continue ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:32 PM
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The last one is silly. There are plenty of lower libido and/or demisexual women. I dare say moreso than men. I am sure they would love such a partner. As for a small penis there are plenty of women for them too. Pansexual women to whom genitalia don't matter, some straight women don't care about penis size if there is a strap-on at hand and the man is an otherwise passionate lover. Also some women have medical conditions that make intercourse painful but still enjoy other sex. The first two grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:30 PM
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Superficial is also relative. What is superficial to someone has a deep meaning to someone else. Also family and close relationships don't have to come from spouse+kids. They can come from parents, siblings, niblings, cousins, uncles, aunts and friends. For example I have a close relationship with a lot of my cousins and some of my friends and am a non-bio aunt to their kids (the few that have kids). However, having a spouse and bearing/adopting kids would be too much for me. Too much committmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 02:48 PM
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It doesn't make one a baby to want a life partner but the provided for, cared for, protected part is the babyish part. Also no study asked every single woman on the planet. Some of us find such a man patronising and suffocating. Others may love it. The direction in which most sway is cultural. If women don't have many rights and opportinities in a particular culture, the country is at frequent war or civil unrest, etc then yes, they will want the provide protect stuff if they are stigmatised or …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 12:52 PM
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And men aren’t ’great big leaders’ lol, they’re human being susceptible to cultural influences like everyone else. True. Amatonormatovity and "everyone pair up" pressure gets to both men and women who would prefer not to. It didn't get to me and I hope it stays that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:36 PM
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EXACTLY! Applause! Finally someone who gets that being single at heart is a thing and that people can feel passion and comittment to things other than romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:32 PM
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Nowadays a lot of people consider a man to be a failure if he dedicates himself to his craft, and doesn’t have the time or energy left over for romance. As a single at heart woman I disagree with that opinion. Both men and women can be happy single in a variety of ways. We used to have monks, artists, philosophers, sailors, cowboys, career soldiers, hermits, To be fair we still have artists, philosophers, soldiers and hermits. Monks and and cowboys not so much. Professional sailors in the Navy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 07:28 PM
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Why should everyone be motivated to be fit according to fitness enthusiasts? Or that having definition is attractive to everyone? Similar habits and lifestyles are important. Some people love sharing food with and cooking with/for their partner. A fitness enthusiast is likely to have a restricted diet. Someone who loves gastronomy, cooking, trying new restaurants will not vibe with someone with a restricted diet. They would have to cook two meals or have to cook them separately (no fun). Like on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:55 PM
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Can we not use ableist language and slurs such ad r**ard and freak please? Being neurodivergent doesn't render you non-functional and unintelligent. Being unusual in some way is not bad. It is like saying being left-handed is freaky .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:38 PM
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Did you ask them what they are looking for? I wouldn't call men seeking only casual relationshipa fuckboys. It's offensive. Is a woman seeking the same a fuckgirl? Those women you were referring to may have dated those men because the desire for a casual relationship was mutual Not every woman wants marriage and babies. It'd not 'elevated' just different
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:18 PM
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Plenty of men like small boobs. I am a short, average looking, minimal curves, female bodied and having booty calls/friends with benefits is very easy. I am not personally marriage/long term relationship seeking so don't form relationships with that end. Plenty of happily married women with small boobs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:14 PM
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Change locations. Go to East Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:10 PM
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I STILL don't get the arthoe thing. Is it a subculture like punk or goth? An aesthetic? Being a painter with a high libido? It's confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:07 PM
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What's 'basic' and 'normie'?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:04 PM
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I am surprised if any woman short of the ones growing up under Taliban would even talk to you if they knew you see them as less than. I certainly wouldn't and I doubt many others would.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:58 PM
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There is NO natural positions. Only culturally encouraged ones. I don't know which Eastern European women you dated but I am originally a mix of Czech, Hungarian, Aromanian (not the same as Romanian) and some other things and I am definitely NOT a helpless puppy. Neither is my mum, my grandmothers or even my great-grandmothers. They all worked full-time when most women around them did not or only worked part-time. My mum raised me on her own until I was 12 when my dad joined us (long story but I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:55 PM
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sounds quite patronising and infantilising to me. THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:15 PM
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And both are complete CRAP! I still don't get how people buy this in the 21st century. Protected? Cared for? Guided? Adult women are not babies. Some may act like it but they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:14 PM
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What's an arthoe?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:57 PM
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Makes a LOT of sense. Btw I noticed a lot of us artists especially introverted ones are single at heart. I am not an artist but I have am artistic temperament just no artistic talent lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:08 AM
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Women who want children want fertile men and vice versa. Fertility does not end at 40 at ends at menopause. There is a fair amount of over 40 and even over 45 first time mothers where I live. Average age for menopause is 50-52 NOT 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:02 PM
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They are connected for some. Many childfree people want a life partner/marriage but not children. Some single at heart people want children but not a life partner so they go down the fostering, adoption, sperm donor/surrogate or intentional coparenting route.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:54 PM
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Fair point. That's one source. Immigration is another. Immigrants are people too you know. Not aliens.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:51 PM
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How are male nurses treated? Plus I said DOCTOR not nurse even though nurse is a valuable and essential profession for whoever wants to do it. Male nurses are professionals just like female nurses. Really? Military is the ONLY option? Not university? Not trade school? Not trying to set up a small business and see where it goes? Lots of people get cheated on. I am sure some military people cheat on their partners while abroad just like some of their spouses cheat at home. As for the elderly I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:49 PM
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Well I certainly wouldn't be drafting them into war to get killed. That's not reaching out. If there ever was another world war and young men and maybe women were being drafted I would do all I can to get them out of being killed, permanently injured and/or traumatised. Nobody needs that. Be it through fake documents, helping them leave the country to a neutral one or fostering a few. I do mentoring work alongside my teaching work and even I don't know how I'd reach out to those disillusioned fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:38 PM
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I mean maybe YOU can make yourself believe in god when you actually don't believe in it but I sure as heck cannot. As for housewife, that's hell on earth to me. I'd rather be a nun or a practicioner of the oldest profession than a housewife. I could pretend to believe in god I guess if the only three life choices would be the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:24 PM
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People who want to reproduce usually do barring resistance to fertility treatments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:51 PM
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Nobody is entitled to sex. Go watch porn, go to a strip club, get a blow-up doll, go to a sex worker if you can afford it. Women are not objects to be assigned to men. They have preferences and lives of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:44 PM
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I am definitely NOT opting to be a housewife and I an a third generation atheist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:42 PM
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There are progressive minded people in every culture even if they keep quiet at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:30 PM
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I don't know about other women but to me it's not politics or a choice. I am intrinsically disinclined to romantic relationships aka single at heart. A solitudinous drifter hobbyist and nomad by nature. Having a partner and children feels suffocating anf unappealing. I am not the only one. There are other people both men and women like that
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:29 PM
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4B is a Korean women's movement. It is specific. The commenter above is a man. He can defo choose not to date, marry and have children if he prefers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 09:23 PM
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It certainly seems that those people think so. Like the world revolves around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:48 PM
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There's a lot of freedom in renting. Very much so. I can afford to buy in some places (not London lol) but also nice, medium sized cities but I choose not to because I don't need to worry about service charge, repair expenses, redecorating expenses, leasholds and all that claptrap as a renter. I pay my rent at the start of the month and I am free. I can change cities next year. No problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:17 PM
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Houses aren't just more expensive for men. They are more expensive for everyone. Plenty of women house sharing with no husband or kids. So? Some have kids but house share with other women with kids for less expenses google momunes. If you want to marry and be a dad so badly move to where more people want that because it is still a strong societal expectation. India, North Africa (btw North African countries are not theocracies like Saudi and Iran). There are a lot of non-religious folks there. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:11 PM
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Once again, the argument becomes, "men won't do anything without the promise of pussy" Exactly. Not all men are sex addicts. Most aren't even the high libido ones. OP seems to think that they are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 08:06 PM
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It is really not a tragedy.Those who want long-term, comitted partnerships will pursuse them with varying amounts of success (most people). Those of us who don't are defo not despairing lol. Who says young men should go into the military or dangerous jobs? They can be a doctor, a waiter, an accountant, a teacher, a cleaner just like women. It's not like we have the draft in most of Europe anymore and all the mining jobs are in Africa now so absoultely no need to do it. Many soldiers who choose t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:27 PM
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It's a valid choice for ANYONE not just men. Same as being childfree. Also plenty of selfish people in both camps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 07:17 PM
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I don't believe simplifying it to "mental instability" or a socioeconomic group helps the dialogue about abuse. SPOT ON. ANYONE can suffer abuse regardless of socioeconomic group or self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:07 PM
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Indeed! I am in the second camp. Patriachy just never caught on with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:02 PM
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YES!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:01 PM
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That's NOT true and is offensive to women and other people truly struggling with a mental health condition such as depression or bipolar or even severe panic attacks. I am female bodied non-binary and don't suffer any of the above. Mind you I never bought into the patriachy be it beauty standards, gender roles, marriage being necessary or any od that rubbish. I always marched to the beat of my own drum, doing what feels right for me as long as it doesn't interfere with other people doing what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 12:01 PM
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If you are a sex addict, yes. Not for those who are not sex addicts. You sounds like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:55 AM
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Indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:52 AM
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EXACTLY! And even when they are horny not everyone likes violent sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:51 AM
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Maybe she thinks she can "save" him. This older upper-middle class lady had a relationship of a few years with someone she met in prison. She was teaching Literacy classes in that prison. They were both in their early thirties at the time. When I asked her why would she do that, never mind the socio-economic class but why not date someone free, with a legal job white or blue collar irrelevant and without a criminal record? She said that she sensed a "raw, unfulfilled intelligence in him and a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 11:50 AM
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Some men can other men can't. Same for women. What you heard is yet another sexist stereotype. It's a personality thing. NOT a gender thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:25 PM
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Who says that a woman who acts equally confident around men or women because it is her true nature is faking it? I've never acted or felt more shy talking to someone just because they are a man. The same goes for feeling intimidated. The only way either a man or a woman would make me feel scared/intimidated is if they tried physically hurting me, throwing something at my face, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:20 PM
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You make a lot of sense too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 09:01 PM
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You make a LOT of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:57 PM
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Those studies are also a sample someone collected just like Reddit. You don't know which women have been asked. Maybe the sample had a lot of religious or socially conservative or older women. Just because more women wouldn't do something (like date a bi man) doesn't mean no woman would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:55 PM
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No they would be gay if they like men NOT tomboy/androgynous women. BIG difference! Same for women. They are lesbian if they like women not men who wear skinny jeans (facepalm).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:52 PM
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So are you going for an arranged marriage then or self-arranged marriage I guess since there are no channels for those seeking arranged marriage in Western cultures? If you are, fair enough, as long as the other person is looking for a pragmatic dynamic too. But be honest about it, since most people are looking for a romantic dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:37 AM
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"I have two but I’d never had had them except for my husband" Fair enough. It is important to be compatible, share basic goals and values as well as views on parenting in order to parent together successfully. But you wanted children in the abstract, as an idea before meeting him, right? I hope he didn't persuade (read manipulate) you into such a life transforming endeavour Childfree women who are partner seeking (not me) seek childfree partners. Like it is one of the compatibility dealbreakers …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:15 PM
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To be fair most men do too. Or at least more do than don't. But it's not just anecdotal just because it is a minority view. If it was only a few people on the planet lol there wouldn't be childfree communities, flights, hotels and restaurants. Also, remember that not everyone who has children explicitly wanted them. Some people had oopser babies and kept them for whatever reason whether religious/cultural/familial pressure, being scared to abort or give it up for adoption, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 06:08 PM
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"A kid is off the table for millions" Myself included. Like why would I be losing sleep, changing nappies and following school holidays calendar to travel abroad when I can be part-time bellydancer on some evening after work, watch TV until late without worrying I will wake up the kids and travel more cheaply whenever I feel like it? There is no way anybody could sell being a mum to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:08 PM
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If every woman kids why do you think so many get their tubes removed? This whole every woman wants kids thing some men seem to think always confuses me. Like I can't keep a plant alive. I defo don't even want to imagine how I would handle a child. I was on a childfree forum and there are couples where the man gets a vasectomy and the woman tubal removal. If everyone wants kids why do you think people go to such measures explicitly to prevent having kids? I am sorry if you want kids and can't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 08:01 PM
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in fact you are comparing them with models. The modelling industry is riddled with bulimia and anorexia. THIS! Both are two sides of the same body dysmorphia coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:36 PM
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Great point!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:34 PM
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Regular gym going isn't body modification. Bodybuilding, however is. The whole point of bodybuilding is to look a very specific way, not just generally fit but being a certain size, shape, etc. A lot of "mainstream" people view dedicated/professional bodybuilders as a bit "odd" the same way they view people with many piercings and tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:31 PM
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I was just mentioning some examples. LOTS of handsome Asian men around. And I am not just talking K-Pop men or Takeshi Kaneshiro. I mean random men walking down the street. I turned my head many times. Whoever said Asian men are not handsome has no taste. Don't listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:23 PM
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Who ARE those weirdoes? No offence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 04:16 PM
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Oh come on! Height is really not that important. If all women were all about height East Asia would have already died out since most men there are short. Dozens of short men with wives and kids here in London and Paris. Granted the women are short too and most aren't even Asian. I am a short woman (5"2) and everyone I have ever been with was either my height or medium height. I was attracted to them. I have never fetishized baskeball player height (in the USA it could be different) or even been …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:25 AM
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Many people in many cultures live at home until they are married and even after they get married. The extended family is the norm in India, South America and the Pacific. Living with parents is actually valued. A lot of people's partner seeking woes would be solved if they tried dating someone from a different culture. Like when Safaa, a very large woman from my Kontiki trip went to Ghana half hoping to get married because her body type is popular there. She's been happily married for a decade n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 10:26 AM
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This is very true. I noticed the same. Unless a woman is really into fitness herself as her main hobby they just don't care about strength/muscles. Or unless she is the traditional provide for me and protect me type.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:22 AM
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THIS!!!!!!!! A man can be or look like an Olympian with a Gillette model face aka culturally seen as attractive but that is useless if a woman he is trying to attract is into sedentary, bearded, bookish men with glasses. A lot of cottagecore/twee/soft goth women are into the vibe described above. Or even if there is a mutual attraction but no compatibility then only a one-nighter will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:19 AM
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So I guess you don't believe in connection, being compatible, having fun together, caring and dedication to each other matters? Most women choose partners based on the above (apart from fetishists ) with looks being only a small sliver. To you a life partnership is just looks, sex and money? If so, go to a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:12 AM
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If that's what matters in the USA change continents. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:05 AM
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Those are some dodgy, racist, money-hungry women. Stay away from those even if you are white and rich. She is gonna raise the kids racist. And materialistic. I'd have trouble being friends with someone like that let alone partners because our key values clash.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 09:03 AM
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Erm are you trying to say only white men can be handsome (angry face) and that all women prefer white men? Sooooo not true. I mean I am white and quite looks blase in terms of not caring about height, eye colour, hair colour, body type, etc but have been attracted to South American men more often than other ethnicities for some reason. I am guessing language/culture since they were all very different looking. Some like Native American, some European some Afro Latino. It's not just me either. One…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 08:58 AM
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THIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 06:24 PM
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Yeah. Good point. People ought to reflect and think a bit more. I think it's also about upbringing and role-modeling to be fair. For example, one reason why I was always befuddled by gender roles and to a large extent by the concept of gender itself (not biological sex that's different) is because my grandparents who raised me, never stuck to them. Both of them cooked, both could do basic repairs around the house, they shared all their coats/jackets because my grandma had a more androgynous shap…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:04 PM
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Those roles are damaging, useless, toxic and restrictive. No need for them. Like none.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:03 PM
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Some SERIOUSLY weird men and women where you all live. Like wtf?????
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:57 PM
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Me too! As do a lot of people. Just like a lot of people like some kind of pizza.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:55 PM
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Most women probably don't care about this bizarre level of "masculinity" Since when are umbrellas and desserts feminine????? I see men eating cakes all the time. It's as common as eating soup. Umbrellas is something humans use when it's raining. Where oh where do you find these wacko women? What else do they consider feminine? Eating rice instead of potatoes or vice versa? (facepalm).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 06:54 PM
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Or they will go to sperm bank. It's 2025. Having sex or a partner are not necessary for passing on your DNA if it's so important to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 02:31 PM
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No weirder or more gross than one nighters or booty calls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:26 PM
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That's their prerogative. Women refuse sex with men for all kinds of reasons or no reason at all apart from not wanting sex at that time. Fully their prerogative
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:25 PM
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INDEED! Registering and updating it it essential for maximising health and safety and minimising human trafficking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:24 PM
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There are women lawmakers too. And lots of women who agree with prohibiting it due to whatever they think. Often religious but not always.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:22 PM
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Add Germany, the Netherlands, UK, Nordic countries and a good portion of France to the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:20 PM
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People like you deserve to be isolated from humanity for wanting to isolate someone who did nothing wrong. You don't have to agree with something or partake in it to be civil.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:15 PM
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You never know. Just a few decades ago cohabitation, having children while unmarried (even if coupled), divorce, step-families and same sex relationships were HIGHLY stigmatised. Waaaaay less now (some not at all). All we need is for the majority of people to stop stigmatising it and accept it as part of life. I personally have never stigmatised it and am glad that it is becoming legal in more and more places even though I don't partake in it in any form personally. People's own bodies people's …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:09 PM
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There are polyamoruos units aka polycules raising children as we speak. And I mean units not open/swinger married couples. There are usually 3-4 people living together committed in various dynamic i.e. triad, V, non-romantic nesting partners having a committed romantic partner each etc. It's not new and not unseen. I saw a couple of Youtube videos where the kids (mid teens) share their perspective. In a nutshell they don't give a darn. They are in a safe, supportive, loving home after all. Who p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:23 PM
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APPLAUSE! I can't believe how people could miss all those advantages. Even in pre-dating apps times there were Personals ads in major newspapers (usually last page). Should they have been banned lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:11 PM
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Exactly. And so do people who cannot have sex due to trauma, chronic medical conditions that make having sex painful/pretty much impossible. Some people are very sexual in their marriage but if their partner is unable to have sex at some point in the marriage they don't divorce. They stay married and use porn/toys or open their marriages. Lots of arranged marriages don't have the raw lust/desire/attraction (more like non-repulsion). I heard from non-asexuals on more than one occasion that they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:12 PM
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That's like little Max who lived near my friend. He was 9 when my friend told me about him and his setup. So it was obviously working. I have a feeling those setups are more common than they seem but the people in them are not open about it to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 12:05 PM
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You are under the exactly the right impression. That's almost how it works with the two coparenting pairs that I know. Except for that they do approximately 30% mum time, 30% dad time and 30% family time. By family time I mean go for day trips or weekends. Such as a trip to the funfair or the zoo. Or a hiking weekend. Longer holidays such as a week in Spain they do separately. One of my student's parents divorced when she was 3 and her brother was 1 (amicably I suppose) and continued with the ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:29 AM
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THIS!!!!! (Applause)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:49 PM
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Erm that's a bit simplistic. Less children is not the only cause plus it's not the doom some people think it is. With more mechanisation there will be less need for many people. We have self-checkouts, my place isbtrialing driverless trains and buses (there is already one driverless train line running from 2005.). Btw people can have children via IVF, AI, sperm/egg donation, surrogacy or intra uterine injections. Intercourse is not the only way. Some people don't want children and that's OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:27 PM
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Society isn't collapsing just changing. Nuclear family is not the only way to have a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:05 PM
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Polyamorous people certainly can. It disgusts you and you cannot imagine it because you are wired for monogamy. Just like you can't understand being aroused by a woman if you are hetero. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:02 PM
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True. There is a HUGE stigma to being divorced in India, especially in rural or more religious communities. It can turn you into a total social outcast.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:55 PM
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People can have good sex even with erection problems. There are realistic dildos (some can ve custom made to measure) vibrators, other toys, etc. There is oral and manual sex. There is BDSM, top-bottom dynamics, etc. Saying only intercourse is sex is kind of close minded and very ableist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:48 PM
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True point. Like what if their spouse develops a chronic illness/disability that leaves them unable to have sex at all? I am active in disability spaces both online and offline and although not all disabilities hinder people's libido or ability to have sex SOME definitely do. One lady with fibromyalgia suffers severe joint mobility problems and chronic pain so she takes medication. The problem is that the only medication and dosage that helps her to be semi-independent and lessens her pain a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:23 PM
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Well then you don't have to do it. I was just trying to be helpful by giving some possibilities/options. If you believe conventional marriage is the best option or the best for you go down that route. Mind you, on a quite a substantial chance you get divorced you'd still be coparenting so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 05:56 PM
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True. To be fair some want their own blood same as women do AND put in the work. It is one of the biggest myths that men only want children because their wives persuade them. If you don't want children out of your own will don't have them or allow anyone to persuade you. It's not a temporary favour. One is a parent forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:51 PM
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Same thing that happens if your boyfriend/husband or girlfriend/wife leaves you. It depends if their name is on the birth certificate. If yes, then they pay child support, if not then they don't. It doesn't depend on whether the parents were a couple beforehand.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:45 PM
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You don't necessarily need to be rich to have lovers/casual relationships. I know plenty of what some people would call "mid" men (I am a "mid" woman myself) with casual relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:29 PM
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Applause! Someone gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:24 PM
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No, you wouldn't live with her. Or be a couple in any sense such as having joint finances, dates, etc. It would be like being amicably separated with a 50-50 custody. You would still be single. You could still a girlfriend/fwb when the children are with the other parent. It doesn't mean you become a monk lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:20 PM
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It can be. Like those two women. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-february-21-2017-1.3991287/how-two-friends-fought-to-be-legal-co-mommas-to-a-7-year-old-boy-and-won-1.3991307 But there is also a man and a woman forming a partnership exclusively for raising children (not living together). Like amicably separated minus the getting together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:14 PM
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You would be surprised at the amount of heterosexuals on platonic parenting sites. It is certainly not just for asexual people. Not all heterosexuals are the same. Some don't find the idea of a long-term, cohabiting relationship appealing, others don't want one anymore due to having a long string of bad luck or a very traumatic experience. Some have a profession requiring frequent travel or a lot of time/energy so do not have enough time to dedicate to both a romantic partner and children. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:05 PM
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Libfem here. I personally support polyamory and all forms of legal-age, consensual relationships and family structures. Love is love is love and family is family is family. ALL safe, supportive and loving families are great in my book. I am queer not as in gay/bi but as in screw arbitrary structures and preconceptions of what love and family should look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:27 PM
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You were under the right impression. Yes, it would be like 50-50 custody for amicably separated parents. I know someone doing it and that's what they are doing at the moment. I mean they take a day trip with the kids together sometimes or eat together in a restaurant once a week but mostly it's what you described. Most people think that it's some kind of self-arranged married where you live together and all without the feelings. It's NOT. Agree about living close by until the kid is 18 or so but…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:41 PM
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