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Yeah. I fucking hate these kinds of rapid fire "debates" (really any kind of public debates in general) because they usually boil down to "who is the more charismatic or more experienced speaker" or "who can better recall information on the spot" rather than "who has the better argument or better data".
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/26 04:02 PM
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Women harm other women, like all the time. I'm sick to death of this romantacized myth of the universal, peace-loving sisterhood that all women share. Hah, yeah. It always makes me laugh a little whenever I see someone say "if women ruled the world we would have lasting peace/our problems would be solved/insert your own fantasy" and I think to myself "Ah yes, if only we had more women in power, like Margaret Thatcher, Marine Le Pen, Kim Yo Jong, Indira Gandhi or Isabel Perón. Lasting peace, yes.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 08:22 PM
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Most jobs, especially STEM and programming, have company/state sponsored women only “social spaces” (forgot what they are called specifically) where female employees, managers etc. come together to network, which means majority of the promotions will mostly go to women too. Remind anyone of the 70's and 80's when feminists called for men-only clubs to be either dismantled or accept women because they functioned as "old boys' networks" that barred women from corporate advancement? Time to start d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 04:03 PM
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I am not mad at you. And I don't care who started it. I only care who ends it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 01:52 AM
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Regardless of whether or not your data is accurate, I don't think we need this kind of "Gender A is better than Gender B at Thing C" rhetoric here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 12:42 AM
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I was going to say "pray that the daughter is a lesbian" but on second thought, I don't think the sort of bigot that this kind of upbringing will produce should be inflicted on lesbians either.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 12:37 AM
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Yeah. Or alternatively the kid will turn out like one of those militant turbo-atheists who discover that their ultra-conservative fundamentalist parents were full of shit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 12:29 AM
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What I mean is that you have normal bullying, where you make fun of, harass, or generally just demean another individual on the basis of stuff like them looking ugly, them being weak or nerdy. Stuff my middle school classmates would bully you for. Moral Bullying on the other hand is the same type of thing. You still demean, harass, ruthlessly mock and make fun of a person online, only when you get called out for being an asshole, you hide behind a supposed moral or systemic framework that "justi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/26 04:48 PM
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"4. Concept Creep" can also be seen in the "rhetorical ship of Theseus", in which valid but debatable substitutions are used to turn a minor thing into something far more severe, but crucially a direct substitution from the minor thing into the more severe thing would be seen as ludicrous. A hypothetical example would go something like: One or two people disagreed with me. I received critical messages. I am being harassed. One can see how "I received critical messages" is a valid but debatable s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/26 10:40 AM
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...when you find yourself diagnosing everyone who exhibits a normal behavior as mentally ill, it's time to pause and re-evaluate your framing. Yeah. I agree. I will say that splitting isn't just a BPD thing and even otherwise healthy people can split. But if I'm being perfectly honest, I'd rather file this under NVC jackal-type mentality instead of actual splitting, even if the two are very similar.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 06:36 PM
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What OP's girlfriend is doing feels awfully similar to "splitting". Devaluing men as a whole as "trash" but idealizing OP as "one of the good ones", at least until he does or says something "wrong" (or doesn't do or say something "right") or somehow crosses some arbitrary line, at which point he'll join the rest of us in the "trash" category. Or he'll doormat himself and walk on eggshells until the relationship ends. I guess there is also the rare possibility that she'll learn and grow out of it…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 05:43 PM
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while it’s also true that women are disproportionately affected by severe intimate partner violence and homicide by intimate partners. Which isn't actually true. Men are roughly 37% of those severely injured by an intimate partner, with studies hovering between 33% and 40%, with the occasional study that shows closer to 50%. Not exactly a "disproportionate" difference. Likewise with intimate partner homicide, 30% - 40% of IPH victims every year are men. If you believe women make up the vast majo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/26 03:27 PM
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I can't think of any works that explore male disposability, but I have had this thought bouncing around in my head that the Space Marines of Warhammer 40k serve as a kind of exploration of what "male instrumentalization" by a society looks like when taken to ludicrous extremes. I'd say there's four broad stages, the spess muhrines enter the picture in various ways at stage 3 and 4. Stage 1, you teach men and boys that it's honourable to give their life in service to a "higher cause"/the king/the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/06/26 10:52 PM
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I get the sentiment, but if something seems foreign to you, the best thing to do is to look for evidence supporting it. Minor disagreement here. The best thing to do is to look for evidence both for and against it. Anything else is a kind of confirmation bias and will throw you head first into a fictional world.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/26 08:21 PM
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In the vast majority of first world countries and most US states after conception has occurred men do not have the right to "escape" parenthood, even in rape cases (not even statutory), whereas women do (abortion, adoption, safe haven surrender).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/26 12:39 AM
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Women don't hate men. We LOVE gay men. It's not who you are. It's how you act, and don't act when the moment calls for it. She mentions the Epstein files and the global pedo ring and how "men have done nothing but move on ASAP". I genuinely wonder what people like her ACTUALLY want us to do in this case, or with any other rapists for that matter. Call them out? Sure, already doing it. No change. Call the cops if something happens? Sure. Again, no change. Go through the proper channels and prosec…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 04:05 PM
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(cite Straus and related Conflicts Tactics Scale studies using epidemiological sampling design) There's also Straus' and Graham-Kevan's commentary on Graham-Kevan's paper "Domestic Violence: Research and Implications for Batterer Programmes in Europe", Processes Explaining the Concealment and Distortion of Evidence on Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence. Thanks to feminists' focus on and lies about "patriarchal violence" or "male violence" they have us chasing ghosts and then we all wonder why I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 09:10 AM
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The questions are so asinine and yes.. I am taking the mickey here because obviously there's a context involved with the above questions.. Right, like there's obviously a difference between "asking repeatedly throughout the course of an evening because you got 'not right now' or some other non-committal answer" and "pestering someone for sex because you want them to cave in". The authors of this study seem to be picking the most uncharitable interpretation of each of their given scenarios and th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/04/26 05:35 AM
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You ask a female friend to serve as matchmaker, does that count as "having a female friend bring her to you"? Better avoid that from now on, just in case. Wouldn't want to force a woman to have sex with you, right? "Asked her repeatedly to have sex". Wait, did you just ask her to have sex with you a second time, thinking she may have changed her mind? Oh my god, help! Help! Police! Arrest this disgusting rapist!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/26 10:19 PM
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What makes you think an effort to make the Left more palatable to men (and therefore that much more appealing than the fascists) isn't a part of the fight against the fascist takeover? I also don't understand this idea that we can only focus on one issue at a time. That everything else is indefinitely on hold "because there are fascists in the White House". ETA: Edit: Ya'll got more smoke for AOC calling a nazi short than you do the actual nazi ripping fathers away from their children, brothers …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/26 04:55 PM
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Also all punishments will be reduced to a fine of $25.01 so that victims currently in any form of relationship with the perpetrator cannot use the harshness of the potential penalty as a reason to not report. Cash only. Make the penny useful again.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 08:22 PM
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She proceeds to tell me "So what if it's not rape? It's considered sexual assault. And I also think it's better for men for it not to be considered rape because it will cause them to freeze up and not press charges. It'll be better for mens mental health". By that logic rape should also be considered "only sexual assault" because then women won't freeze up and will be more likely to press charges, and it will be better for their mental health.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/03/26 07:14 PM
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It's a shame I can only upvote this once because holy shit, my thoughts exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 06:41 PM
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Your post made me wonder if there might be such a thing as "socio-essentialism" to go alongside bio-essentialism. What I mean by that is, if the bio-essentialist sees men being (on average) more violent, they treat it as a fact of biology and say "Men are more violent because of their biology". Whereas the "socio-essentialist" would see the same thing and treat it as a fact of socialization, "Men are more violent because of their male socialization". Neither of them considers non-gendered, non-b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 05:48 PM
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Yeah. Covert narcissism. You know, "Men are trash", "#Kill all men", "Men are violent predators", etc., the covert narcissist man who says that shit is sort of quietly saying "I’m not like other men. I see the truth about how horrible we are." and in doing so he implicitly centers and elevates himself above other men as "more self-aware", "more enlightened". It's also great for the covert narcissist because, instead of having to take responsibility for specific behaviors XYZ ("I sexually harass …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 02:46 PM
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"If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one you hit will always yelp." Hate that saying. As if making a sweeping generalization is like "throwing a single rock and hitting one dog in the pack", instead of what it actually is, "throwing a rock at every single dog in the pack". Way too many people don't seem to realize that the reason some people don't "yelp" when hit is either because they've been trained not to "yelp", gaslit into thinking they weren't even hit in the first place, or they …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/26 01:20 PM
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Really the greatest trick feminists have pulled is equating "feminism" with "gender equality", "women's rights" and "women". "What? You hate feminism? So you hate gender equality? You don't want women to have any rights, huh? Stop hating women, you sexist pig!"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 06:19 AM
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The sort of "feminism" that actively discriminates against men is seen in various organizations, from the UN (constantly pushing a one-sided view of domestic violence) to the National Organization for Women (actively fighting against shared parenting laws) and all the way down to the various DV shelters (denying men access to their services while also actively lobbying against men's shelters) around the globe. Meanwhile the sort of "feminism" that you seem to believe in is nowhere to be seen, al…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 05:55 AM
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totally NOT systematic at all... The "feminism" which works with patriarchy is not my cup of tea. I don't respect all feminists anyways. You may call me a pick me for that idc. Anyone here got "No True Scotsman" on their bingo card?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/25 05:19 AM
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Yep. Once you learn what self-sealing arguments, No True Scotsman and Motte and Bailey look like, you'll see them constantly. And at this point I'm starting to feel like a broken record with the amount of times I'm pointing them out. It's also interesting how many of the 10 warning signs of a cult can be seen in their group dynamics: Charismatic/Authoritarian Group/Leader: Demands absolute loyalty, is seen as infallible, and faces no real criticism. Isolation from Outsiders: Encourages members t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/25 04:26 PM
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A woman is not going to have sex with a man who splits the bill with her. The implication here being "a woman is going to have sex with a man who doesn't split the bill with her." How very progressive, Scott. "I tell my sons, when you’re in the company of women, you pay for everything. And if you can’t, you don’t go out." I wonder how people would react if he gave women similar advice, e.g. "I tell my daughters, when you're in the company of men, you make yourself attractive for him. And if you …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/12/25 06:11 PM
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Apart from it just being an insult to actual victims, false accusations clearly serve to delegitimize real victims stories. Even if you don’t care about the accused this still feels like you’re shooting yourself in the foot on some level. Right? If no one ever exaggerated or lied about what actually happened, if every rape accusation was always 100% true, you wouldn't need to investigate. Just throw the accused in jail and stuff their mouth and ears full of fines. But because every accusation is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 11:43 AM
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Toxic masculinity and patriarchy being only enforced by men is a myth. Yeah. You can often see this in action whenever that man vs bear thing or some other sweeping generalization comes up. If a man is upset by said generalization, it often draws a response of "self-report!" or "you must be one of the bad ones if you're upset by that". What it ends up being is a kind of "Emperor's New Clothes"-type self-sealing argument ("You must be one of the bad ones if you can't see that it has nothing to do…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/11/25 07:16 PM
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It's also weird how they always seem to give the bear the benefit of the doubt but not the random man. They'll say "I choose the bear because the bear doesn't want anything to do with me and just wants to be left alone" but somehow the man always seems to want something from them... The hell? Like if you're gonna do that, then shouldn't the question be "Would you rather be alone in a forest with a man who wants to harm you or a bear that wants to harm you? Or, would you rather be alone in a fore…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/25 05:13 PM
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It's also a supremely stupid defence. "I can't be racist because I have no power", "I can't be sexist because I have no power". Okay. So the only difference between you and a racist/sexist piece of shit is "lack of power"? Wow, what a truly wonderful person you are! I sure hope you gain power one day (or realize you already have some)! /s The fact some people genuinely think it's a good defence against an accusation of -ism... Celsius scale room temperature IQ.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/10/25 10:16 PM
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I would not do this sort of "research" with an Artificial Schizophrenic Dumbass, or really any kind of non-"casual fucking-around" type stuff. Because you now have to check every source it used to make sure it's not just hallucinating or misquoting. Otherwise you may as well just post the Navy SEAL copypasta, it will be just as valuable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/10/25 03:40 PM
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"Woke" would be my guess.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/10/25 10:38 PM
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Yeah, it's bully logic: Premise 1: It's okay to attack someone's immutable characteristics if you don't like them Premise 2: I don't like them because they hold political views I find reprehensible Conclusion: It is okay for me to attack their immutable characteristics Anyone who doesn't reject Premise 1 as at least morally invalid is a bully and has no moral high ground to call out anyone else doing the same to them or their friends and allies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/25 05:18 AM
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I always figured left wing ideology either is, or at the very least should be, about not having social rankings in place or not demonizing or othering people for their immutable characteristics. And yet that's exactly what so much of modern leftist ideology is: man bad, woman good, white bad, racial minority good, straight bad, LGBTQ+ good, now rise for your Intersectional God and Satan, lesbian, racial minority woman and straight, white man. And don't forget to collect your oppression points fr…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/25 12:23 PM
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Yeah, this reeks of narcissistic abuse. Recasting perfectly human mistakes as some uniquely male, toxic behavior, internalized blame, teaching the guy to deny his own perspective, the resulting self-policing, etc. etc. The fact that you think those things make you a problem is WHY we criticise feminist ideology, it's designed to inspire self hatred and undeserved guilt in men who are decent people. Yeah. It's times like these that we need to remember that gynocentrists (and also androcentrists, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/25 05:16 PM
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There's also heavy misuse of semicolons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/25 02:39 PM
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Yeah or No True Scotsman. People seem to have forgotten that one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 07:55 AM
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I know this is off-topic but: gits trying to take your diving licence from you Thanks to you I'm now imagining Saudi women desperately fighting against oppression to be allowed to SCUBA dive unassisted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 06:00 AM
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I guess the question is, if a majority of "feminist" organizations or organizations with major "feminist" influence (from the United Nations, the World Economic Forum and the National Organization for Women, to your local DV shelters and women's advocacy groups) and also the major "feminist" spaces online are dominated by misandrists but then you have these pockets of egalitarian "feminists" like yours scattered here and there, who are the "real" feminists? Is it the misandrists with all of the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/25 05:20 AM
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It would take a lot of time to look deeper into and asses their claims. I don't have the time/energy to look to deeply right now. I'll add to the pile. The part about "Women and Children First" where the author makes the claim that "men don't comply with WCF, the Titanic was an anomaly" has also been debunked here. TL;DR: Just because more men survive shipwrecks, doesn't mean men don't comply with WCF, doesn't mean men aren't chivalrous. For example, in one of the shipwrecks studied, the men com…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/25 10:15 AM
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Fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 03:17 AM
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Will do. For what it's worth, I wasn't exactly using ChatGPT to formulate the argument for me. I was just randomly thinking about things one day and thought of Popper and his observations regarding Freud and Einstein. And while I had the general gist of how Freud debated and applied his theories, I had a hard time finding what that would've sounded like in practice, and so I asked ChatGPT for an example of what it might have been like. That's all. Everything else is my own thoughts.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/25 03:05 AM
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This is self-sealing logic. "A good person doesn't get upset by the sweeping generalization of "all men", therefore if you get upset by it you must be a bad person". And then you mock alternative views to avoid engagement: Oh no, they are going to shit on me, the humanity! /s ETA: It's also a type of No True Scotsman. "No Secure/Good Person objects to sweeping generalizations" and then anyone who does object is dismissed as insecure or bad.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 09:05 PM
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Feminist: "All men are terrible" Man: "I don't like that" Feminist: "Well why are you taking it personally? If you were one of the good ones you wouldn't worry about it" Man: "Well if I'm one of the good ones it can't be all men now can it?" AKA a self-sealing argument. If you agree that all men are terrible, your agreement is proof that all men are terrible. If you disagree, that proves that you are a terrible man or a woman who has been brainwashed by men and your disagreement is therefore pro…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/25 07:46 PM
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Hell, I think the left needs to understand what the essence of evil is according to Tolkien: imposing one's will on others. Sauron isn't evil just because he wears imposing armor, nor because he wants people to worship him as a god-king and enact his designs for the world. Simply wanting that isn't evil on its own. No, he's evil because he doesn't give you a choice in the matter. You will worship him, you will enact his designs. He will make sure of it, whether by threat of force or through his …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 10:49 PM
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I wonder if that's why the alt-right pipeline exists: They didn't reason themselves into their leftist positions, they got there through emotion. And so if someone from the right can somehow crack that emotional armor with their logic, they will then find themselves in a position that they did reason themselves into and now see their former leftist positions as emotional rather than rational. Persuading them back to the left would then require reason and logic from the left but if all they keep …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 09:40 PM
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Yeah these people are Straw Man Boxers. They looooove crafting and defeating straw man after straw man but almost never do they actually engage with steel man arguments. Maybe if Democrats lose more elections, they'll finally start learning some Logic 101. Sincerely doubt it though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/25 09:21 AM
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Sometimes I wonder if we should take the way we often talk to women about how dangerous the streets are at night and apply a proportional level of danger to the way we talk to men. Ya know, if we say to our girls "it's so dangerous to walk around at night all alone, you have to be REALLY careful. And don't go to the dangerous parts of town if at all possible, ok?" but if our boys are roughly two or three times more likely to be attacked by a stranger, should we then tell them "Son, I heard you'r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/25 10:10 PM
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(Bah, guy I was replying to deleted their comment before I could reply. Ah well, I'll post mine anyway.) As long as people like Moscow's Temu Hitler exist, national self-defense based on antimilitarism IS building a better world. Outright pacifism only invites war when you're constantly under threat of invasion by some Dollar Store Stalin. I will say though, it's weird that we think that, instead of panic building an army when an invasion is already in progress, we need to prepare men for war we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/25 06:01 AM
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Hell, if The Patriarchy actually exists/existed and actually benefits/benefited men, why were coverture and debtors' prison ever a thing? Under coverture a married woman cannot be held liable for any debt she incurs, that is her husband's debt to pay. And if he couldn't pay it, he could be imprisoned, and from there he could be forced into prison labour. Doesn't sound very empowering, except for whoever reaps the benefits of said prison labour. Or press gangs. If The Patriarchy is/was a system d…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/06/25 03:51 PM
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never backs up any of her claims with any evidence. Yeah. Like the claim she makes that: “The first act of violence that patriarchy demands of males is not violence toward women. Instead patriarchy demands of all males that they engage in acts of psychic self-mutilation, that they kill off the emotional parts of themselves. If an individual is not successful in emotionally crippling himself, he can count on patriarchal men to enact rituals of power that will assault his self-esteem.” If you've e…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/25 02:22 PM
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I wonder what makes them think a man who won't listen to a woman will actually listen to a man and not just a) retort with a whispered "fucking soyboy" or "[insert your favorite insult here]", or b) do what my former coworker did and go completely silent for a day and next day carry on as if nothing happened. This, too, fits almost perfectly with the concept of threat narrative. If men have all of the agency and authority and women have none, then men can do what women can't: make the misogynist…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/04/25 07:30 AM
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Surrogates*
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 03:25 AM
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To add to this, all of the “men’s problems are the result of patriarchy which is a system that was created by men to benefit men and therefore woman are powerless to help men- they need to ask the other dudes for help” is a BIG reason why it was so hard for me to even feel like I had any role in men’s problems, any responsibility, or could affect it in any way. I think you might find Alison Tieman's videos on threat narratives interesting. I believe the Patriarchy Theory is little more than the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/25 03:23 AM
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Personally I find the casual manner of grouping all men together for hate purposes, whilst simultaneously not taking kindly to generalising women one of the weidest takes on gender politics. Whenever I see this I always remember a particular piece of critical analysis of Lord of the Rings (as part of a much larger analysis of Mass Effect): In Fellowship, domineering power over others isn’t just a tool that evil uses, it is the very essence and nature of evil itself. In Fellowship, Gandalf even r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/25 05:59 PM
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