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| – | Friendzoning guys is an extremely painful experienceWhy do you feel so entitled to a man's care and consideration while demonizing what a man might want in return? "value you for your soul" -- are you fucking stupid? Do you think a guy is dressing up as Winnie the Pooh and prancing around to cheer up one of his guy friends? This boils down to -- that guy used an ineffective strategy and you exploited his attention and are now acting like a victim because he wanted something from you. You feel entitled to getting preferential treatment because you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 11:10 PM |
| – | There is no real evidence men struggle more in getting sex/relationshipsYour source indicates that young men are much much more single that women. Men do not beat women in that regard until roughly age 50-64. Would it not be fair to say that, when relationships are most important psychologically due to cultural norms regarding marriage and actually being able to have kids at a reasonable age, women have a huge advantage? I would trade being more likely to be single at 65+ for being more likely to be in a relationship pre-65. It's simply more important to be in a rel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/26 01:01 PM |
| – | I feel like straight dating is flawedIt's only difficult for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 03:58 AM |
| 2 | It's generally not as good to socialize as a man than as a woman.I'm not really sure what you want me to say, you basically have me figured out. I don't really think I'm socially weird though, just a little feminine-coded in some ways. More agreeable than confrontational, a little flamboyant or "zesty" in the way that I express humor and enthusiasm, etc. at least that's the way I would interpret myself. I live by myself in a small town because I had to move here for work and I pretty much just do work - gym - home. I have no idea where to meet women or where … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 08:38 PM |
| 1 | It's generally not as good to socialize as a man than as a woman.both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 07:03 PM |
| 1 | It's generally not as good to socialize as a man than as a woman.Why wouldn't somebody want to be "the princess"? You're implying that wanting to be in that role is a bad thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 06:24 PM |
| 3 | It's generally not as good to socialize as a man than as a woman.I don't get your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 05:46 PM |
| – | What is the appeal of being each gender socially and romantically? Pros and cons?What good does it do men to have it easier after most of the dating, early career, and formative experiences are over? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 05:55 PM |
| -4 | lusting after a body =/= unconditional lovealso what women consider to be an attractive personality in men is disgusting. it would make me sick to act that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/25 12:10 AM |
| -1 | lusting after a body =/= unconditional lovenobody is even going to go on a first date with a guy if he looks ugly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/25 12:10 AM |
| 1 | I am sick of hearing about being stuck in the FRIENDZONE from menI think the difference is that if you're just friends with a woman she could respect you or like you as a person and she might not, but if you're in the friendzone with a woman she probably doesn't value you much as a friend. I've been in the friendzone before and the women usually just used me for attention and were hot and cold with me. Once someone knows you like them and they don't like you they are disrespectful. Completely different dynamic than girls I'm just friends with and it's mutuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 05:10 PM |
| 2 | I am sick of hearing about being stuck in the FRIENDZONE from menBeing in the friendzone is not the same as being friends with a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/25 01:25 AM |
| 2 | One of the biggest reasons for the discrepancy of sexualization and the argument over approach and effort is the 'education of sexiness'. Many men overlook this and simply believe women are genetically "blessed to be more attractive than men"; and that women put in no effort at all to make a move.genuinely, whats the point of living as a low value man then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 05:30 AM |
| 3 | One of the biggest reasons for the discrepancy of sexualization and the argument over approach and effort is the 'education of sexiness'. Many men overlook this and simply believe women are genetically "blessed to be more attractive than men"; and that women put in no effort at all to make a move.Do you think the differences in attractive men vs unattractive men are mostly innate, a mix of innate and changeable, or mostly changeable? If a low value man can become a high value man through effort, what would that process look like to you? If it's impossible, what kind of advice would you have for a low value man considering they are in that disadvantaged third gender category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/25 11:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP works because it operates on this premise; “Philosophy is just when you find the hidden generalisable truths, amongst the specific experiences you’ve had in life.” ~ N. RavikantWho is trying to help us then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 12:57 AM |
| 5 | CMV: TRP works because it operates on this premise; “Philosophy is just when you find the hidden generalisable truths, amongst the specific experiences you’ve had in life.” ~ N. RavikantSo what is a loser man supposed to do then? Lay down and rot? I don't think you can blame people for at least trying to philosophize and come up with a solution to their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 12:43 AM |
| -1 | What is wrong with modern menwhat's so bad about wanting to be treated like a woman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 01:24 PM |
| 6 | Men embrace redpill because mainstream advice is dogshitwhat makes you say that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/25 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.Well it's an open question. What, if not love (because that ship sailed the moment we started talking about changing my nature), does a woman have to offer me in exchange for embarking on this process of changing my nature to become more masculine outside of sex? You're the one that posted that you want to see men become more masculine. I don't see what's in it for me honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.Well I see you've made some posts encouraging men to embrace masculinity targeted at my type of person to who that doesn't come naturally so I'm curious to see what you will say. But like why should I change my nature to attract a woman? Like if I can't be loved for who I am what good is a woman to me. At that stage there is no love it's just a transaction. But let's say I do decide to try to at least put on an act and become successful in that way. Well why shouldn't I just use women for sex an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.Well why should I do anything for a society that won't value me? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 05:25 PM |
| 4 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.It might also be that the massive increase in social freedoms that women have makes it unbearable for men with more naturally feminine dispositions to repress and be more masculine. The unfortunate issue is that women have a lot of natural leeway in how they express themselves personality wise and it really does not affect their ability to attract a partner. On the other hand, men seem to be constrained to a pretty restrictive box and if they leave that box they are considered untouchable by wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 04:56 PM |
| 0 | Most dating advice given to men tries to turn them into something they're not.Artistic types historically are more likely to be eccentric and thus aren't a good example for normal people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Narrow masculinity narratives are harming both men and women in modern relationshipsIt's everybody. Men are more direct in enforcing this stuff on other men through bullying and clear status hierarchies, but women enforce toxic masculinity on men through who they choose to date. The punishment for not being masculine for men is not having any status among men or the ability to date women. And masculine values are often kind of shallow in a sense insofar as they are focused on power. For example, a highly intelligent nerd type might not be considered masculine because they aren'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Narrow masculinity narratives are harming both men and women in modern relationshipsThe expectation to be those things is in my opinion the toxic part. If somebody is naturally resilient for example that should be valued. But when society tells men they have to be resilient and can't show signs of emotionality, that's toxic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/25 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Is it really worth it to try to get women?It depends on how much the woman wants the security. | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/25 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Is it really worth it to try to get women?There are plenty of beta type men that fall into early marriages with women that don't necessarily have much attraction for them but like the security and comfort. The men still get plenty of joy out of the arrangement because the delusion that the love is mutual is there. That's why I say it's too late for that because I know too much. I would never be deluded to trust what a woman says to me if her body language and actions told me otherwise. I have no expectation that the universe is going to… | /r/TheRedPill | 26/02/25 03:27 AM |
| 11 | "Bar for men is in hell, most women just want a guy who treats them like a human being" is a hilarious lie.I can't really understand this perspective. I think there are some people that can be single for a long time and find value in other things, but I'm not wired that way. I might be able to enjoy the mundanity of normal life and what I do but the feeling of being unwanted seeps into everything I do and turns those actions into drudgery. I don't really enjoy the process of creating things because it feels pointless. Like I could write the most compelling essay on xyz and my life would not meaningfu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 09:56 PM |
| 18 | "Bar for men is in hell, most women just want a guy who treats them like a human being" is a hilarious lie.Every woman has basically the same taste. And it's psychotic to have self-confidence if nobody wants you. I haven't had a girlfriend in my entire life and I'm 25. Why would I delude myself into thinking I'm worth anything given the fact that the world tells me plainly that I am worthless? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/25 08:48 PM |
| -2 | Men improving themselves wont fix the dating market, women need to lower their standards.Being interesting in the shallow way women see being interesting is pretty hard yeah. Appealing to the female gaze sucks as bad or worse than appealing to the male gaze. Most people aren't 'interesting' in a shallow sense but men have to broadly perform for and entertain women. I would personally much rather be a prize and have to obsess over my looks rather than have to try to perform a role I don't like and still be broadly unwanted which is the experience of a lot of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/25 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Men improving themselves wont fix the dating market, women need to lower their standards.Well. I'm 25 and most guys here are below 30. Of course we aren't gonna want to date women that are way older than us. The years that the sexual marketplace is the most relevant is 18-30 or maybe 18-35 because most people pair off around those times. The fact that women get valued more in their prime is more relevant than any 'advantages' men might have in the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/25 05:47 PM |
| 2 | Men's advantages vs women's advantagesNo woman can like a guy like me, so the only alternative to faking it is to die alone. If I was a woman I could be quiet and sensitive or bubbly and affectionate and either way guys and lesbians alike are both into that. Wallflower guys are literal garbage in the eyes of society, and bubbly non-cocky guys are not far behind them. The only thing that gives me any hope at all is maybe if I could get really lean maybe I could get a big enough halo effect that I could get an average girl to like me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 01:22 AM |
| 4 | Men's advantages vs women's advantagesI have literally had women gush about how kind I was during dates and then ghost me after. The only girl I've ever dated that I was actually attracted to and that I was really hopeful we went on like three dates and then she decided she wasn't ready for a relationship after that and then got in an abusive relationship after. I wish it wasn't like that but it seems like it is to me. If I'm my natural kind sensitive self I will get passed over, but funny enough when I try to be as big of an extrav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Men's advantages vs women's advantagesI don't necessarily mean an uphill battle in my case in the date moreso than before. I've asked dozens of girls out (maybe over 40). Been on like 4 dates total in my life. And these weren't women without problems. And even these girls obviously were not really that into me from the start. I got ghosted after. My big problem is I can't get women to be attracted to me in the first place, and can't even get a date with an average girl without a ton of baggage and red flags. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Men's advantages vs women's advantagesSure all of that is true but hear me out. As a man if you aren't one of the rare gifted men that are attractive enough to skate by on looks, everything in dating will be an uphill battle your entire life. Men have to spend their youth trying to build up value and if you're unlucky genetically or not a hard worker you are just socially worthless. I'm 25 and I literally have never had a GF. The amount of social abundance that women have even after the "wall" is far beyond anything I've ever had. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 10:18 PM |
| 5 | Men's advantages vs women's advantagesI'm a 25 year old man and I don't understand this perspective at all. Like in what way can women not push themselves that men can? Maybe men get rewarded more for making money, maybe. But both sexes benefit equally from going to the gym. Maybe women even benefit more because women that go to the gym seriously are so rare and men are more visual. If you can help me understand your perspective that would actually be great because tbh I feel like I rolled the objectively worse sex to be at birth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 09:20 PM |
| – | Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think.Don't say it's "not a big issue" like you did in your previous post though. It's a gigantic issue for people in this position. People kill themselves for having this issue. I'm assuming you don't struggle in that way, so you see it as not a big deal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 06:57 PM |
| – | Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think."accepting" that makes me want to give up on life. There's no point to living for me without a partner/family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 06:49 PM |
| – | Immaturity is a bigger problem with guys than they think.Okay, and not experiencing something that almost everybody else gets to experience is a good reason to be upset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/24 06:26 PM |
| – | How has body count discourse affected women?Why should high value men, particularly late bloomers that worked for their sexual leverage, not abuse their leverage, but women can? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 12:25 AM |
| – | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt doesn't seem to me like anybody ever has, so why would that change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadAs a 23 year old male virgin, it's depressing to think that nobody is ever going to actually want me. Almost all women and apparently some men can inspire actual desire in the opposite sex. If I can't do that, then why should I enter into what is basically a provider role, where women don't seem to treat men that enter into that role with much actual love or respect, let alone desire. I just really don't see much to hope for in terms of a dignified life at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Men aging like fine wine is a myth and women "hitting the wall" is overstatedWhat's the point of living as one of these men then? If they are just going to be losers for the rest of their lives anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/23 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Friendly reminder that there is no such thing as a femcelBecause she is punching down in this scenario. It might not be functionally different but their positions confer different psychological and status connotations. It's also the case that the femcel can at least have the validation of having opposite sex attention and can benefit from female platonic relationships having more touch and intimacy that male relationships. For instance, straight women can cuddle with other women with no drawback in a way that men, especially incels, simply can't. Wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Why are women blamed for “hypergamy”, or more accurately greater female reproductive success?Yeah I see where you're coming from but that kinda paints a dark picture imo. Like why would anybody prefer being a man in any social/relationship context? Not a rhetorical question. Like if the one allowed outlet for men to get physical affection and support is in a relationship with a woman... but it's not realistic or masculine to want to be desired or appreciated from your partner. I mean maybe the people that want to be women have a point. Am I crazy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/23 12:06 AM |
| 5 | Why are women blamed for “hypergamy”, or more accurately greater female reproductive success?Why is that feminine behavior? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 09:09 AM |
| 3 | Why are women blamed for “hypergamy”, or more accurately greater female reproductive success?what's so strange about wanting to be adored and doted on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/23 05:15 AM |
| 0 | "Self-improvement" makes you jaded even if it works for dating.But you would agree that those people that do it for dating wouldn't feel good about the result? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 06:01 AM |
| – | Women get respected less, men are wanted less.I'm glad that your 20s were that way. I just don't think that its possible for me for a multitude of reasons. Most of those involve me having lived (originally forced into, but yeah, now its my fault) a very sheltered, isolated youth and being mentally ill. I really don't believe that I could ever have a good romantic life even if I did a complete 180 on my personality and went outside constantly. I do try to get outside as much as I can, and put my most extroverted side forward. It's exhausting… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:50 AM |
| – | "Men who date younger women can't get women their own age".I mean what should a man do I'm that situation as a 30's man, worked to become very successful and attractive, maybe didn't get any sexual recognition at all when they were younger. If I was put in that position in a decade, I'd rather be with a younger woman I think. I do tend to agree big age gaps seem more obviously transactional than most relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 06:41 AM |
| 1 | Women get respected less, men are wanted less.I've heard it both ways from both trans men and trans women on whether they preferred the way they were treated presenting as both sexes. This really isn't a gotcha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 01:47 AM |
| 0 | Women get respected less, men are wanted less.Male romantic feelings go beyond just wanting women as a hole. Some men do just want women as holes though, yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 01:04 AM |
| -1 | Women get respected less, men are wanted less.Being seen as smart or capable doesn't mean much to me at all. I've been in the position of being seen as a leader a lot, but not really seen as somebody that people want to be around a lot. That kind of respect seems really cheap to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 12:52 AM |
| 2 | What is your ideal relationship dynamic/partner?Bubbly and lighthearted, at least friendly and not overly cynical. I'd love to meet a girl that lived a similar childhood to me, being raised on the internet as a shut-in, so we're on equal terms. There would be much less pressure on me to mask as well. I think it would be so romantic to meet somebody that wants to grow with me, and enjoy new experiences, from that position of being socially stunted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Describe the physical characteristics of your ideal partner for sex and relationships.Face: Pale, medium-length black hair, "cute" features, slightly crooked teeth are endearing as well. Body: Moderately wide hips and a nice butt, athletic with some muscle or petite are both nice, breasts should be not too big and not too saggy. Ideal partner for sex and relationships is the same person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 01:26 AM |
| 1 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.Don't people need a dream to be motivated to work towards? Like. I know people are already calling me a pussy here and telling me I'm not man enough and whatnot but I'll level with you. I think about killing myself every single day. There is no material thing in the world that I give a shit about. I don't care about toys, or tech, or cars, or houses or whatever. There's nowhere I want to go really, not much I want to do. The way I have gotten myself to go just a little bit longer is thinking tha… | /r/TheRedPill | 25/12/22 04:35 PM |
| 1 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.Can somebody help me get my head straight on this, and maybe help me figure out what kind of future would be worth working towards? TRP tells you what women wantIt often stops there and fails to say the obvious, which is that very often women shouldn't get what they want.It also often fails to highlight the next part, which is that women don't mind "not getting what they want" as much as you do. So: be normal. Do what seems like a good idea. I can't get a gf in the first place. I also don't thin… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 09:54 PM |
| 5 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.What's wrong with wanting something you missed out on? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 09:15 PM |
| 1 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.Well how do I stop being a bitch if I am one? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 08:33 PM |
| 12 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.How is the value game fun? I don't see it that way at all. I'd like nothing more than to be free from it and have some baseline level of value. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 12:13 PM |
| 1 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.What's the point of getting with women if you don't get to be in love? | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 10:44 AM |
| 9 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.I don't care about my field or being successful at it. I also don't care about money outside of getting to retire. I don't have any grand ambitions in the 'real world'. Getting to have the happy family life that I didn't get to have as a kid is my actual dream. I can't have that without a woman. Maybe I could try to gaslight myself into making myself care about some other goal... but I just don't. If I gave up on finding a woman and having that life, I'd just be a NEET. That's really where I'm a… | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 02:22 AM |
| 5 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.The simplest way to put it is that I'm resentful that I can't just be a "beta" and still be loved and respected. I don't want to be used for my resources by somebody that doesn't love or respect me. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 01:58 AM |
| 1 | I feel like following RP advice will make me a monster.I don't want to be an acquired taste for somebody because what they really want hurt them. I want to be what somebody actually wants. | /r/TheRedPill | 10/12/22 01:56 AM |
| 1 | "Ugly" men are just not putting enough effort while having very high expectations.Probably for most guys you’re right but genuinely not for me. I can appreciate girls that do have a high effort attractive look, but the girls that I actually crush on aren’t like that. The most attractive girl to me that I know has crooked teeth, disheveled hair, acne, etc. you can’t exactly call her low effort because she is very fit, but the reason she’s so attractive to me is that every time I see her around campus, she’s always laughing and goofing around and I love that energy. Then again … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 06:51 PM |
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