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Why does it matter if it's from a position of good faith? Just say what's true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:12 PM
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There's a reason this evolutionarily still exists in women, that's that it helped them pass on their genes. How would noticing attractive men help women pass on their genes? Do they see those men and get the urge to fuck their unattractive husband or do they get the urge to fuck the attractive men? Imo it's the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:09 PM
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Look up Ovulatory Shift Hypothesis, there's a lot of paper that prove how true it is, very few that disprove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:09 PM
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Cause they would hate for what the cel people say about women to be right, so they go to the absolute opposite side and make themselves look crazy in the process lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:06 PM
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No they just fuck them behind their backs Edit: There is literally data on Ovulatory Shift that women go through. Where women like fatherly men who are more likely to take of their children when not ovulating but then when ovulation starts they find masculine men that are less likely to commit, more attractive. Cheating is hardwired from evolution in a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:45 PM
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Exactly most of our shit is hardwired and we do all the explaining after our hardwired brain has already made the decision. There's only an illusion of free will, but it is important for the sanity of a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:44 PM

Also PPD women: "Men are twice as likely to be single as women in their 20s cause those women date older men"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:04 PM
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Money and Status may get you short term interest, even that is with the caveat that your money/status is vastly more than the competition's good looks (as another commenter said 6'6 stud's 5'9 manager is not outranking him though Messi might), but it will not guarantee long term interest as the mysticalness of a high status man fades pretty quick, then you will just be an unattractive dude to her and it will be at most a betabuxxx type relationship. The good looking guy has to do no such thing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 03:16 PM
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Not really it was pretty easy. R/romancebooks has a whole website for it romance.io, you can just search for books by "alpha male" tag lol. And surprise surprise that is the most popular tag for the heroes. That plus "rich hero" so yeah pretty spot on. Edit: alright looked a bit more into it and you are right most novels don't specific measurements of the heroes outside of sometimes describing the exact height. Which is almost always 6'0+. That's also what the research said: https://girlpowergir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:15 PM
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Women like men around their age or older, that's just common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:10 PM
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Also look at the data, what's the percentage of those singles who are single by choice and not looking to date right now. Shows that ~50% of men are single and looking to date. As opposed to the whole ~60% of single men. Still a huge number. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ Look at men who are sexually active (and as in recently, not just lost their virginity ten years ago).More than 70% on the COVID GSS data and more than 80% …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:15 AM
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Good for you now you wanna see how many alpha males I can find in the same amount of time, it's probably gonna be atleast 100x more lol. As I said women's media heavily based around alpha male characters who are almost always conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:48 AM
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I am a guy in my early 20s, I doubt those women care very much for me either. Young men and old women are the least desirable of their respective sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:46 AM
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Small percentage? Lady look at the stats, ~60% of men in their 20s are single while only ~30% of women in their 20s are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 07:39 AM
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Not a lot if women say, most of the time I have heard similar stuff from women it's been in subs like TwoX or FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:16 AM
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He's a master debater
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:13 AM
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Oh don't worry about that, there are always ways find that stuff out. Not to mention high n-count women have a certain vibe about them. It's like one of the other guys said, it's the ickiness of a high n-count woman. Also a lot of men know if a women is single in her 30s, it's likely that she has a high n-count regardless of what they say their actual count is because you may think this plan of going through your 20s is very unique, but it's really not a lot of women do this. So much so the pill…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 05:10 AM
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I wonder why that is? Maybe because the undesirable men, as they get older, get enough money that some women are willing to overlook their unattractiveness or because by that point women have engaged in enough relationships with men they found desirable, but who didn't commit that they are willing to give the undesirable guy a chance as long as he commits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:52 AM
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Great, good for you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:30 AM
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Alrighty then, non-muscular men(so fat men or skinny men), not very tall men, ugly men. Give some examples of any one of these
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 01:29 AM
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Nothing wrong with women rejecting guys. It's just all the post rejection gaslighting that me( and some guys I know) dont like. Like if women only like a small subset of men just be honest about it don't hide behind shitty, handwavy advice like "it's your personality". If you really think there's nothing wrong with women rejecting men, just be more honest about the reason behind the rejection. Then atleast men will know what kinds of women they are dealing with and so won't be lead on as easily.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:35 PM
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Where's the study or survey in the first link? There are just saying a bunch of stuff without anything to back it up. For the next survey you linked, did you know they put out some new data and it showed the gap between the number of men and women in their 20s who are in relationships has widened, ~30% of women are single while ~60% of men are single. Imo that just shows how many undesirable men there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:08 PM
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Ahh outside of course. The mystical place where apparently everything someone says is proven wrong. I do go outside on a daily basis I have shit to do. I am outside right now in fact. Still doesn't show me how I am wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:47 PM
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Eh I wonder about that. I am in university and women my age are very open to casual sex with guys they find attractive. Plus feminism has been promoting casual sex and sex positive value for women for a while now, I doubt most women are unwilling to engage in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:20 PM
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There are fewer women on there cause most women get what they want pretty quick and just leave. The only ones remaining are the lower to mid tier guys that never picked and a few top-tier guys that were unlucky. Women just keep getting on and off the app as they need to. Why else does it so that 50% of people below 30 use dating apps? That's a lot of women too you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:09 PM
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Yes, if you mean online dating has given women more chances to share top tier men. But that's what feminism is promoting, telling women to take part in casual sex, be independent of men and stuff. Women don't need men for traditional stuff anymore like protection, resources etc so why would they not just have casual relations with the most top tier man they find when they wanna get off? And by the time they want to settle down only the less attractive men are left for them. True, that's why I sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 01:05 PM
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Well we'll see then imo the tides have changed a lot. Assisted suicide has nothing to do with dating. This is a bizarre and illogical take How else is it possible to reduce the number of undesirable men by their own volition?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:57 PM
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I mean I can list a bunch of romance novels with just tall, rich, fit, handsome alpha male characters just by searching "alpha male" on R/romancebooks. Search for a nonconventionally attractive male love interest and you get at most a few dad bods, a handful of "short" guys(they are usually 5'10-5'11), some scarred guys etc most attractive in a whole bunch of other categories though. There was even someone who collected data from a bunch of novels and found that the number of male love interests…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 12:51 PM
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Your survey results are from the past. Do you think this is how it will be in the future? Because a lot has changed since then with feminism promoting casual sex for women, tellimg women are more happy single and childless, with predictions showing 40% of women opting out of dating, do you really think this how it will be in the future? Imo no, it will not be. In the future, a lot of the women will just engage in casual sex with the men they actually find attractive when they feel the need to, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:05 AM
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Online dating surveys atleast shows that the way men ranked was much more on the bell curve. While women only found 20% men above average, which is very much not how the bell curve goes. I am a guy that doesn't like casual sex so (for me atleast) attraction goes the same way you mentioned yours goes. Except I find most women I see in my age range cute enough. Which is different from the women I have talked to, they only find a handful of guys cute enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:44 AM
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I am just gonna say look at media that is made for women. They've always had tall, muscular, handsome, rich, high status men in them. Online dating has just given women more access to the men they actually find attractive and so don't have to settle for average men until much, much later in life, if they have to at all. Women's empowerment has also given women more of a voice so they are more upfront on what they like in a man, so we are hearing more about what women actually like in men. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:33 AM
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And online dating is becoming more and more important so a lot of women can tell the difference. 50%-55% of under 30s are on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:18 AM
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Well in the past most lower tier men just died in wars, conflicts, from working or some other causes. So they didn't really have to care about all this stuff. Not to mention women in the past didn't have much of a say on what they really thought of most men, they do now so we can see that women don't find most men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 08:15 AM
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Single women can easily get their physical needs met(for intimacy, sex, validation ir whatever) but an average man can only get them met in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:54 AM
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You said "Even an average height mam can be tall". Average height is 5'9 for men, for it to be tall to a woman the woman would have to be 5'1, very few women are of that size, especially when compared to the number of men that are 5'9. And again that preference for 8 inches was just on average, there would be many women that liked taller men. Shorter women especially like reallt taller men to feel safe, protected and also sometimes to show the man off Not mention 6'0+ is the cutoff for being tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:48 AM
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Well I am assuming you are woman, so I understand why you have no problem being single. You likely have been validated by enough people to not really care about them all that mucg. But for an incel to accept being single is to give up on ever receiving validation. They've probably never been validated cause unattractive, so giving up on dating means he will never have a relationship (cause women don't approach men, especially ugly men like incels), no relationship means no chance of validation f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:35 AM
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Also rough for men cause only like 15% of them are considered tall lol. But its might be true that the non rich celebrity men just settle for the women with as she ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:21 AM
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Most women are not being hunted down by wild animals, and have a lot of weapons to protect themselves. But they still want tall, strong men because it makes them feel safe. It's just how we evolved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:17 AM
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Nope. Here's a paper: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020 That shows that most women like an 8 inch height difference. Which is higher than the average height difference between men and women. So women mostly like above average height men. Most women are 5'3-5'4 so 5'11+ is the most well liked height. Not to mention that was just the average there's probably a lot of women that prefer larger height differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 05:12 AM
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What are you talking about? I see no mention of that anywhere in the page, could you quote in complete. All I see is this Online dating is more common among younger adults than among older people. About half of those under 30 (53%) report having ever used a dating site or app, compared with 37% of those ages 30 to 49, 20% of those 50 to 64 and 13% of those 65 and older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:35 AM
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Alright we've shown our stuff, you are now just nitpicking, there will be no end to this. So how about you show use some data that most dating ISN'T happening online
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:53 PM
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Men in general? No clue. But a handful of guys I know and myself have had crushes on women we weren't very physically attracted to, but they were absolutely amazing people. Don't know if that's what you meant by sexual interest so, sorry if I misinterpreted
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:34 PM
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Lying? Depends on the context, if it's solely for the benefits of another person and doesn't harm another person then I'd lie. But the other stuff? Definitely not. How you see yourself is much more important to me than anything the outside world can offer(atleast as yet). Doing those things would make me see myself in a much worse light, so I would not do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:27 PM
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Try mixing some kosher salt it goes well with most dishes in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:55 PM
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All those things are true. Just don't hold false hope than women will approach you, they most probably wont
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:51 PM

Personality is necessary for maintaining a relationship, I never said that isn't true. But looks are what start the relationship in the first place, without that you are fucked, and not in the good way. To explain to you in an analogical manner, why would you care about running a marathon when you can even jog? Unattractive men have to get into an environment where they can show their personality, and then get lucky and find a girl that doesn't care about their ugliness. While all attractive men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:50 PM
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Yeah those are not gonna be enough to make women approach. Lots of fit, properly dressed and groomed guys don't get approached. You need to be attractive, tall, as wel as those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:41 PM
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Yeah I don't think that's gonna cut it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:56 PM
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Not the guy you were talking to but here's the best source I have: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=Online%20dating%20is%20more%20common,of%20those%2065%20and%20older. About half of those under 30 (53%) report having ever used a dating site or app, compared with 37% of those ages 30 to 49, 20% of those 50 to 64 and 13% of those 65 and older. I am under 30, so it's pretty fucking important for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:55 PM
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Men dont overcomplicate it, it's just much simpler for women. Plenty of studies have shown that women date men are their level: money, looks, height, status and personality wise. Links?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:52 PM

What bonuses were they? Cause South Korea's whole system is pretty fucked up from what I have read. Hyper competitive, very little down time from work. Small bonuses will do nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:49 PM
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Exactly this is what I was talking there are many work arounds when it comes to autism, some work for some people, others for others. But ugliness and shortness has no work around, you are just plain unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:26 PM
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Alright I am not very well informed on autism, but I have seen people say they are varying degrees and forms of it, some of which require just a bit adjustment to be just like any other person, some probably dont. There is only really one form of shortness and ugliness, and not much you can do adjust it. So obviously former is the better. Now you mention leadership and big roles, there is data that short men are less likely to be in leadership as well. There was some data that showed a large per…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:22 PM

Alright at worst(if you really know nothing about how to behave neurotypically) then autism just counteracts the looks when the actual interaction with the women happens. That is still better than the disadvantage given by being unattractive, short for which you have no way to make up because once you have been found unattractive you don't really get to show your neurotypical-ness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:15 AM

Alright scratch that point then. Still plenty of ways to make up for it. There are no ways to make up for short height or a bad face structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:31 AM
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There was a time I didn't care about what women generally liked, I just wanted to find the one woman who didn't care that I was unattractive. Didn't find any so yeah I have become a bit bitter. I am guessing a few other guys have had similar experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:30 AM
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Then I don't know whats up with you man but I have just seen a few guys get asked out, 3 were for sure not neurotypical, one I am a bit iffy about. On the other hand a lot of short, unattractive guys are single. So I prefer one over the other
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:28 AM

Women do ask men out, but as I said it's only the top tier guys. The reward has to be worth the effort for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:46 AM
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Yeah that "advice" is not gonna help most men. Only top tier guys can pull that off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:27 AM
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Not have any children lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:14 AM

Still you have a lot of chances of finding another autistic woman so doesn't recognize weirdness as much, a woman who ignores weirdness because you're attractive, is knowledgeable enough about autism to give you chance and many other such women. Finding a woman that is attracted to short and ugly men is much, much harder. Not to mention you can learn to behave more neurotypically, to learn social cues and how to flirt etc. A short ugly man can't change his height or face.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:10 AM
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They'll probably ignore each other for a while, until one of the incels gets horny enough and goes snooping around in the femcel camp, gets caught(probably killed as well) which will cause incels to fight femcels. Femcels would probably lose unless they had someone with the evil genius of the Home Alone boy so they could make a lot of traps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 06:00 AM
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A lot of incels have pretty low standards, and some femcel are pretty attractive. So I think that'll still happen honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:56 AM

How original and daring
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:50 AM

All the incels and all the femcels? Incels would far outnumber the femcels and so would probably do some not so good things to them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:46 AM

As a short guy, I would rather be the tall, attractive, autistic guy. I think you underestimate how much women like men they are actually attracted to, they'll probably just ask him out or be direct about them liking him if he has trouble picking up cues. Edit: Doesn't it make sense to other? Looks are what makes the first impression, personality and/or behavior comes secondary. If you pass the looks part, the personality part usually becomes easier(there is research that attractive people are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:42 AM
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