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| – | Being able to have sex at any time is still a privilege.I mean, if it’s not something you’re partaking in.. it’s not really a privilege at all. If I got 1 billion pesos delivered to my door every day (let’s pretend there’s no way to convert the currency) is that a privilege? Not really, it’s a nuisance. I have to find a way to dispose of the currency or walk past it every day and it provides 0 benefit to me (unless I were to burn it I guess but let’s say I don’t have a fireplace). But let’s imagine I occasionally run into an institution that accepts … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 08:58 PM |
| – | Its very rare for a man to find a woman who genuinely likes him for who he is as a human being, instead of what he provides.nobody negotiates with their instincts to make themselves attracted to a person's looks because they took a lot of effort to achieve. And not all attraction is based on primal urges, just looking at someone's physical appearance and getting a boner lmao. If I think it's sexy when someone is smart, I am attracted when that intelligence is demonstrated. If I think discipline is sexy, I am attracted to when that is demonstrated, i.e. if someone is well-toned that is indicative of that. You're not "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 04:08 PM |
| – | Its very rare for a man to find a woman who genuinely likes him for who he is as a human being, instead of what he provides.Did you read my comment? It seems like you just reiterated your point. I explained the difference in my comment. It really depends on the motivation. If we're comparing the shallow appreciation of genetics to the shallow appreciation of physical goods then sure, it would be better to be appreciated for your genetics because anyone with money can provide that exact thing. But neither is good or the basis for a successful relationship. If comparing a shit sandwich to a shit sandwich with corn in i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 03:31 PM |
| – | Its very rare for a man to find a woman who genuinely likes him for who he is as a human being, instead of what he provides.Not really imo. I mean you’re born with your genetics, you did not put any effort into them. The only exception in terms of looks would be for exercise. If someone appreciates your body, that could come from a place of appreciating discipline, valuing the hard work you put into your appearance. It could also come from a shallow animalistic sense of attraction where you don’t care if someone is skinny because they’re anorexic or because they take good care of their body however. Monetary success … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/25 01:58 PM |
| 4 | Social Media Teaches Women They are Better Than MenDo you have a better source than… the dictionary? Lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 01:17 AM |
| 0 | I don't understand the obsession with the Just World Fallacy on this sub....huh? So if a society is biased in some way, and people are affected by that bias usually unconsciously, they must be overpowered by it Lord of the Rings style or else the bias doesn't exist? If society had a bias for chocolate cake, and over time activists said "hey it's okay to not only like chocolate cake we should also value other cakes" and so this bias has been reduced, therefore there is no bias if people aren't shoving their mouth full of cake 24 hours a day? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/25 01:32 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectificationAnd if a woman roleplays as a student who needs to have sex with her professor to pass a class, does that mean she wants to go back to school to get her masters? I guess the question is really whether playing out consensual power fantasies is actual objectification or just an enactment of it. One can act as if they view the other party as an object while truly believing otherwise. I don't believe women want their partners or others to genuinely hold that belief. At least not commonly. But I get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/25 11:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectificationIs every post on this sub "some women are/want X, therefore all women are/want X"? I don't think the average dedicated career woman is going to throw herself at the nearest man with a big wallet she can find | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/25 10:28 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women have no issue with the ''right;; objectificationWhat do you think "objectification" means? Do you think it means any and all sexual attention? I don't think women want even their husband to treat them like an object | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/25 10:27 PM |
| 24 | Q4W: Do you want a submissive man, or do you want to submit to your man?I fear for your romantic partners if you believe someone always has to get the “final say” and your relationships aren’t built on compromise. That’s what adults do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/25 09:42 PM |
| 2 | There is a double standard with how society tolerates women talking about men's bodies vs how society tolerates men talking about women's bodiesWhatever, that’s your experience but it’s not mine, and I don’t appreciate the insinuation that I must feel this way. Were you circumcised as an adult? Are you comparing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:54 AM |
| 3 | There is a double standard with how society tolerates women talking about men's bodies vs how society tolerates men talking about women's bodiesYap yap. I have lots of pleasure from sex and masturbation. You don’t need to demean other people’s sexual pleasure to make the point circumcision is a negative, I already agree with you and won’t be circumcising my son(s) if I have any. But the idea that I have “little pleasure” is wrong and rude. Trump’s a piece of shit, so I’m not gonna feel a lot less bad about anything that comes his way. Him being a man is just about the last thing anyone might describe as negative about him. There’s also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:50 AM |
| 2 | There is a double standard with how society tolerates women talking about men's bodies vs how society tolerates men talking about women's bodiesUhuh, well I’m having fantastic sex with my gf on the regular as a circumcised man so I disagree lmao. What kind of “jokes” are men and women making? Give an example of an acceptable penis joke and unacceptable vagina joke | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:30 AM |
| 2 | There is a double standard with how society tolerates women talking about men's bodies vs how society tolerates men talking about women's bodiesI mean, idk what you’re talking about because men talk about pussy all the time. Is it specifically the word “vagina” they don’t use? As another commenter mentioned, women seem to want men to understand their reproductive system so they can be better sexual partners. You constantly hear talk about “finding the clitoris”. If a man made a video explaining this to other guys I’d bet he’d get applause rather than condemnation from women. So I don’t know where you’re getting this information from. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/25 05:21 AM |
| 1 | There is a double standard with how society tolerates women talking about men's bodies vs how society tolerates men talking about women's bodiesI mean you say it yourself about MGM versus FGM, one’s far worse quantitatively. I’d say the cultural effect at play there is just that it’s become normalized to where we don’t think about it. I’m circumcised, I won’t be circumcising my kids. Make it less normalized, protest, don’t continue the chain, if that’s what you think is right. As for women being allowed to say penis while men can’t say vagina, what’s the context? Like in casual conversation? In dirty talk? In songs? Who is getting upset… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/25 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"Sure but these women could go out into the street and open fire. No one would be able to tell who is going to shoot them or not until it happened. You’re telling me all these women have these violent tendencies, but none of them purchase a firearm and enact violence because they fear retaliation far in the future after men have caught on? There was a group chat uncovered recently of 70,000 men who shared tips on how to assault the women in their lives. Women can’t do that? Create a secret group … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"Really? You think women genuinely want to murder all men in cold blood when they say this? That if they were just stronger, then they’d start a campaign to do mass murder? Well if they did I’d condemn it because it’s actually a call to violence, but they’re not. I mean, if some women were committed they could easily go buy a gun and start shooting men in the streets saying “kill all men”, but that’s the kind of crap that comes out of male incels about women, not women about men to my knowledge. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/25 02:56 AM |
| 2 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"That doesn't mean they think being feminine is inferior, because men don't hate feminity in women. HAHAHAHAHA, this is hilarious. Of course men see femininity as inferior to masculinity. Being sexually attracted to femininity doesn't negate the blatantly obvious ways in which women are seen as less competent and unable to perform certain tasks by men. That means they think a man should rigidly conform to the male gender role. This doesn't prove that it is caused by misogyny. Really? Men berating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"I also don't disagree, but idk what this will look like in reality. The hanmer could be anything from putting 'Boy' back in 'Boy Scouts' to preventing women from voting Both of these things are the exact thing I'm criticizing, not what I think it should be. They both center on tearing down women to advantage men, going backwards in terms of equality rather than forward. Take a men's issue, mental health, advocate for men's mental health and removing the stigma of receiving treatment. EDIT: The b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 06:31 PM |
| 0 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"Feminism by definition means that men's issues have just as much weight to women as women's issues I don't see how this tracks at all. Feminism is simply a female-centered movement for equality. Let's say, as a complete hypothetical, that men truly had no specific problems other than having their razors cost $0.01 more, and women had 500 devastating specific problems that affect their day to day. A feminist, whose movement is about addressing those women's issues, can fight to address them witho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 06:01 PM |
| 4 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"...you've never seen anyone bullied for being gay? What rock are you living under? You've never seen someone call someone gay for acting effeminately? And yeah people in general make fun of people for seeking them out romantically if they're not in the same "league", this is not a specifically woman thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 05:47 PM |
| 2 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity"There is nothing objective in this universe that says this is just a branch of misogyny rather than a branch of misandry, it's something people frame it as for arbitrary and subjective reasons. What? Lmao. Do you really think homophobia being tied to misogyny is completely arbitrary? Being gay is associated with acting femininely. Men are derogatorily referred to by terms for gay men when they do anything feminine, because they believe emulating feminine characteristics makes them inferior in so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 05:45 PM |
| 3 | Feminists are the biggest propagators of "toxic masculinity""Believe women" If I said, "eat vegetables", does that mean you should eat vegetables for every single meal? No, it just means as a general principle it is good to eat vegetables when appropriate. "Believe women" means to take women seriously when they come forward with allegations because 9 times out of 10 every man in a 200 mile radius will immediately try to poke holes. "What was she wearing?" (rape can never be justified), "Why did she take so long to come forward?" (maybe because rape is tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/24 05:34 PM |
| 8 | It's pure BS that some Feminists make it a big deal when it comes to men trying to interact with women less because of false allegations.False allegations aren’t really an issue or something to fear when you’re not a rapist. This is nonsensical, do you mean allegations aren't an issue if you're not a rapist? Because false allegations would only be an issue if you weren't a rapist, or are a rapist and someone you didn't rape accuses you. But sure, if you properly understand consent your actual chances of an accusation aren't especially large | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 12:45 AM |
| 0 | Mainstream feminism is a hate movement - if you identify as a feminist and don't hate men, you are the fringe. I challenge you: Find me a single notable feminist who condemns feminist man-hatingProblem is on the internet you're going to find toxic shit in any movement. The internet actively pushes the most vile rhetoric to the top because it causes outrage and engagement. Really to say the internet is a good place to find the average view of people in any movement is problematic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 11:26 PM |
| 5 | Blue Pill "pandering" is a major problem that is overlooked.When people say "be yourself" they don't also say "go after an insta-baddie". They're not saying "you're perfect" AND "you're entitled to any woman you desire", they're saying find the person who's good for you. By trying to pretend to be someone you're not, you're going to end up with someone who isn't right for you, that you will continue to have to be fake around. This doesn't mean Bob shouldn't work on himself, but it should be for Bob, to make himself feel more confident (although he should… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/24 04:15 AM |
| 5 | "Bar for men is on the floor" - Is this a real statement or just a tongue in cheek phrase meant to aggravate men?This. I honestly have only seen it used in this context with men being praised for doing mundane tasks outside of their gendered role. The one that bothers me the most is referring to a father watching his own children as "babysitting", give me a break | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 05:57 PM |
| 9 | "Bar for men is on the floor" - Is this a real statement or just a tongue in cheek phrase meant to aggravate men?stripped of your roll as breadwinner Is this a pun or a typo? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 05:52 PM |
| – | Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and SocietyYou haven't really justified why any of these things are a direct result of MeToo. You're just saying "feminism changed with MeToo" (which you also haven't justified in any meaningful way) and things have become worse for women and feminists in some ways. It's like that argument that women are less happy than they were in the past, they have more rights now, therefore women are happier with less rights. You actually need to show one caused the other. I remember being 14, I remember being brainwa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 01:55 AM |
| – | Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and SocietyIt should be "take all women seriously" (or rather "people"). Often with these cases people immediately try to poke holes: "why didn't you come forward sooner", "what were you wearing?", "were you asking for it?" when rape is a deeply traumatic experience with complicated feelings attached which complicates coming forward and is never justified. I think as a society we can eliminate these kinds of questions and treat those coming forward with respect as the facts come out without assuming guilt … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 12:50 AM |
| – | Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and SocietyNo? Just "Believe women" doesn't imply all women, it just means as a general principle to believe them. "Donate to charity" doesn't mean "donate every penny to charity you have to charity", "show compassion for others" doesn't mean "show compassion to everyone, even serial killers". Like IcyTrapezium said I agree it's still poor wording but it's not the same, that's just not how language works | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity.Can you say that you are ignoring gender roles if you are conveniently rejecting aspects of the opposite gender role that you find bad and unappealing while at the same time placing those expectations on your partner (subconsciously or not) because they are essential for a functional relationship and someone has to do it? This is a false equivalency. You said, you're not progressive if you don't extensively embody the opposite archetype. I said switching the roles is still being beholden to them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity.So you're not progressive if you don't, instead of ignoring gender roles and living how you wish and not imposing expectations on your partner because of their gender, completely embody the opposite gender roles? A progressive wants to tear down gender roles and the restrictions they impose, not adopt the opposite ones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/24 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Do you expect to date a person with your political beliefs?I couldn’t date someone who doesn’t share my values. As a left leaning straight man in a blue state this was an easy feat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/24 05:28 PM |
| 1 | If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit holeLike I don’t want feminists or women to feel like they have to constantly talk about those things, women’s rights should be the focus. I’m just wondering if maybe they could promote positivity on something like international men’s day or Father’s Day, or bring up male suicide rates when discussing mental health, or what have you. The thing is I feel like feminists absolutely do criticize gender roles that harm both women and men, and the notion they don't is from the mischaracterization by Andre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 06:43 PM |
| 1 | If feminist pages and women in general talked more about different issues that men face, that would help get men out of the red pill / alt right / anti SJW rabbit holeI don't think it's really feminists job to cater to men's issues, it's simply not the purpose of that movement. That being said, I agree that these people mischaracterize feminists as dirty man-haters and offer solutions to problems men face. I think that's a niche that the left should capitalize on, but that it's something men on the left should be at the forefront of. I think dismantling toxic masculinity is a good start. The Andrew Tate types predictably brainwash their audience into thinking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/24 05:32 PM |
| 1 | There’s too much casual misandry on the internetThere are 3 billion incels in the world? Crazy, I didn’t know that. /s No I’m obviously talking about incels and their association with violence against women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 09:14 PM |
| 1 | There’s too much casual misandry on the internetNot because he didn’t want to, not because he didn’t have violent tendencies towards women. That was very evident from his manifesto. He was just incredibly incompetent at realizing his own insane plan | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/24 09:12 PM |
| 0 | There’s too much casual misandry on the internetYou clearly have not heard of Elliot Rodger | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/24 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men?A.) I’m talking about general activism, which men’s rights activism often spends its time tearing down feminism rather than advocating for their own issues. B.) Why do these funds have to be taken away from women’s shelters? Why can’t you just advocate that “men need these institutions also”? C.) 86.9% of shelters of DomesticShelters.org have listed they accept men so the inequality here is that there aren’t male-only shelters, not that shelters that accept men don’t exist. This makes sense cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/24 12:25 PM |
| 0 | Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men?Every time I see someone talk about "biological predisposition" as a prophecy for the genders I roll my eyes back into my sockets | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 09:24 PM |
| 3 | Question for the men, who do you think is going to start men advocacy centers and fight on behalf of men?In general, I wish men's advocacy was more often from a place "Men have different problems than women", and not "Men actually have it harder than women and feminists are fighting for non-issues". It's not a contest, just do your own thing if you truly actually care about these men's issues and aren't just using them as a prop to "own" feminists with the "what about men?" line. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Men arent hated for having preferences. Its when theyre being creepy assholes about it.I was interpreting your comment, not quoting it. Anyone can see that since your comment is right there and can be read in 2 seconds, but I apologize I guess for lack of clarity. That’s what you’re saying, that anonymity makes it okay for you to be an asshole. That’s a dumb take The egg count abacus thing was a joke… hyperbole. Obviously. No one’s actually doing that, but they absolutely say crap about older women’s fertility like is literally stated in this post. Stuff like “she can’t afford to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Men arent hated for having preferences. Its when theyre being creepy assholes about it.I'm basing my comments on this post alone, and I've yet to see anything unreasonable. Maybe she is, maybe she isn't. I'm not gonna pore through her posts to find out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Men arent hated for having preferences. Its when theyre being creepy assholes about it.It's not black and white, men have valid preferences that make sense. The title of the post is: "Men aren't hated for having preferences. Its when they're being creepy assholes about it", the operative word being "when" indicating this isn't always the case. I don't see how anything about this post is saying "men always are creeps about preferences", but the loudest among us tend to. I mean, I don't even feel the need to state my preference, I just let it inform who I ask out like a normal perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Men arent hated for having preferences. Its when theyre being creepy assholes about it.She pretty well documents how exactly to not be creepy in stating preferences in this exact post so no clue what you're on about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Men arent hated for having preferences. Its when theyre being creepy assholes about it.That could just as easily be indicative of unreasonable preferences as it is of women being on the decline, so your statement doesn't really prove anything | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 10:19 PM |
| 7 | Men arent hated for having preferences. Its when theyre being creepy assholes about it.This is what you’re saying “The internet allows us to be assholes, so it's okay to be an asshole" This is such a weird take. Anonymity doesn't make it not creepy as hell to break out your abacus to calculate a woman's remaining egg count. Edit: clarity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 10:16 PM |
| 0 | Women who are against and mad at paternity test. Just....why?I can't speak so much to the secular reasoning behind these issues and I'm not particularly interested. I mean, I assume for the same reasons sans God. Adultery is still a serious accusation of breaking trust in an intimate relationship. Someone you love enough to commit to spending the rest of your lives together and you ask for something that indicates you're unsure if they've honored that promise? Whether or not you allow that person to go through with it and whether you stay with them, from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/24 09:50 PM |
| 1 | As a man with mental illness, you are worse off in the current datingmarket then a woman with the same issues.How tf are you gonna make this comment when the comment you just made that was being responded to was this: Could be just lower standards due to lack of options. It's "begrudgingly" because that's the literal hypothetical you created, that the person has a lack of options and settles for someone who's neurodivergent. Can you not follow your own line of reasoning? Lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/24 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Telling men and women to "not take rejection personally" is usually poor adviceWell the plastic surgery industry is a result of harsh beauty standards that simply are not accurate to everyone’s taste nor reality of how people look. It’s a way to sell people a perceived ideal look and tell them they’re not good enough for simply being natural looking. My gf has talked about getting a nose job and I have truthfully re-iterated over and over that I love her nose and think it’s beautiful. Of course there are people and traits that more people on average find attractive, but to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 10:54 AM |
| 2 | Telling men and women to "not take rejection personally" is usually poor adviceTwo people often simply don't mesh. They have dissimilar interests, their senses of humor aren't complementary, or their life goals are incompatible. A single rejection is not inherently indicative of something being wrong with the person getting rejected, it could simply be some form of incompatibility between those two specific people. It does not mean every single romantic attempt they make will be unsuccessful because they didn't vibe with one person. The premise here is that because of that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friendsSo these women that confess to you they have these explicit sexual conversations about their partners with their friends AND THOSE SAME WOMEN ALSO say locker room talk that men have is chauvinist? That's the point I'm making. I understand you've heard from women that they have sexual talks, have you heard from the exact same women that they think locker room talk is bad? Since you guys clearly lack reading comprehension I'm saying you're lumping all women into one group and saying they're by hyp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 01:51 AM |
| 3 | Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friendsSure, again, how do you know it's the same women? To point out hypocrisy that's a pretty important thing to accomplish. Your experience has told you women have intimate discussions about their partners with explicit details, your experience has also told you women condemn locker room talks men have. What exactly leads you to believe those are the same women unless you're grouping all women into one big "women" bucket? That was my point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 09:49 PM |
| 7 | Women will talk about male "Locker room talk" then go on to write a novel about their sex life to their friendsIf you don't have studies... what basis do you have to even say this occurs and are the same people? Or is this just how you think all women behave, and you think all women also condemn locker room talk so you therefore think this is contradictory? How do you know the same women that condemn these are are the ones doing the same with their friends? You're clearly not in these female discussions and male discussions to be able to compare and contrast. Have you been invited into intimate female di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/24 09:12 PM |
| -6 | Do you think women are more bigoted then men?There's certainly less. But my guess is the bigotry I would be willing to call out on the left is vastly different than what you would, I'd guess acknowledging racism rather than turning a blind eye is what you're referring to | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 04:11 PM |
| -3 | Do you think women are more bigoted then men?Judging that women are much more likely to vote left, I'd say no. I think being understanding of oppression makes you more likely to extend that to other groups. So from a political standpoint, absolutely not. You may be right socially, I don't know, but it's not something I've ever noticed in my anecdotal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.Why on earth would you even begin to defend the OP and argue against your own gender? Because that's not what I'm doing. I'm attacking a bad argument. I don't see myself as "on the side of men" just because I'm a man, nor do I see myself "on the side of women". I see myself on the side of people who I agree with and make good arguments. As I pointed out, I don't fully agree with the post because I don't think misandry is justified. Just because I agree with OP's point that misandry is not the sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 03:53 PM |
| -4 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.Well I agree that misandry is a response to misogyny for the most part. And I generally have no issue with women hyperbolically stating "I hate men!" as a way to vent with over that discrimination. I also agree that it's justified for women to be more cautious around men they don't know due to the vast majority of women receiving harassment from men in public in some point in their lives and the power dynamic. I again agree that the actual negative effects of misandry are far less than misogyny … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 02:13 PM |
| -11 | Misandrist is justifiable. Misogyny isn’t.To preface, I don't fully agree with the post, but this is a really bad response. Aaa yes, it's okay for blacks to form and ethnostate and repress White because of their history oppression. Did you read this line in the post?: "That’s why it’s justifiable; a misandrist is not going to kill you for not giving her what she wants, rather she’s angry that you think you have complete authority over her." The difference is that a misandrist isn't going to inflict violence as a result of their feelings… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/24 01:39 PM |
| 2 | Calling men who you disagree with "Weird" is A Toxic FemininityOf all the insults, “weird” is comedically tame. So it’s hilarious how upset people are getting being called it. If you can’t handle being called “weird” of all things… the internet is not the place for you. And maybe nowhere in society | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 02:12 AM |
| – | What’s the point of telling women they’re expired?25% of divorces are initiated by men, so that immediately rules out “men don’t leave relationships.” Second, 20-59% of divorces are the result of cheating, and married men tend to cheat more than women. Do you think that when a man cheats on a woman it isn’t causing the divorce just because the woman is initiating? Of course both men and women cheat, but my point is that just because the woman is filing the divorce doesn’t mean she’s necessarily the problem. Nor should the woman just have to put… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 02:44 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesI think you’re woefully ignorant of what women go through, I’d suggest talking to some. It’s quite common, here are some stats Here are some stats: * 50% of women have been groped or fondled in the last year * 77% have been followed by a man or group of men in the last year in a way that made them feel unsafe * 67% experienced harassment before 14, 87% before age 17 https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/news/faculty/street-harassment-statistics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 12:08 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesOf course the latter. Going up to a woman at a bar who you think looks good and saying “You look nice, can I buy you a drink?” is demonstrably different than approaching a woman on the street and saying “Nice ass, where do you live?” and saying “why don’t you crack a smile for me?” when you’ve been politely told to leave her alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 11:46 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesFreedom of expression doesn’t mean all expression is good. Harassing people is bad, I don’t think people should be harassing people, and wearing the clothing you want isn’t justification for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 11:05 PM |
| 7 | Why do other men support societal delusion?https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity There isn't significant difference in levels of obesity between men and women. Percentage Men Women Overweight 34.1 27.5 Obese 43.0 41.9 Total 75.1 69.4 As you can see there's even less women in both the overweight and obese categories than men. Where exactly is the "imbalance"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 04:36 PM |
| – | Sexism plays a much smaller role in the economic realities of women than people are willing to admit.that would mean extra things for women again. They don't accommodate men. It would be sexist to accommodate women actually. Then you'd be treating women different based on their sex. Which is actually sexism Do you know what "shared parenting" means? It would mean both men and women are involved. We're talking about restructuring society to accommodate men and women picking up the slack in parenting, not just expecting women to do it and leaving their careers in the dust. In this hypothetical sc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Red pill is about understanding women not shaming themWhat manual are you talking about? And are you really describing men are drivers and women as the car to be driven? And what are you talking about by saying the red pill is a manual for women but only has standards for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 06:44 PM |
| 2 | Red pill is about understanding women not shaming themOkay, what exactly does the red pill mean to you and can you confidently say that men don't do those things on the whole? And does the red pill define the same standards for both men and women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 05:10 PM |
| 0 | Feminisim will either help men or lose men-- there is no 2nd option.This is a false dichotomy. If women are oppressed and feminism fights for women, that is working in the positive direction to acquire equality, even if it doesn't solve every single gap in equality that exists. You're asking a hammer to screw in a screw, that's simply not the goal of the movement, but that doesn't mean equality isn't the goal. It also is just common sense that if women are disadvantaged in some ways compared to men and you work to dismantle those advantages, men are "harmed". Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 05:01 PM |
| 8 | Red pill is about understanding women not shaming themDo you really think the red pill movement frames men as equally selfish and acknowledges their own shortcomings? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 04:02 PM |
| 1 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activity(Reposting for the second time because I got modded for a link to my other comment and then forgot to change it the first time I reposted) I only rescinded because I misinterpreted OP's point. I thought OP was hypothesizing a "trans" neurological marker, not a "gender" marker. It's a minute distinction, but one I figured was worth clarifying because it changed my argument here a bit: What I thought OP's point Trans man "female" sex identifier + "trans" identifier Trans woman "male" sex identifie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 12:27 AM |
| 0 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityThat's actually not what it says. Brother what? I literally quoted from the article. Use ctrl+f if you don't believe me. Are you saying the quote I included isn't saying they found a cross-sex neurological marker for being trans? I barely paraphrased in the previous sentence. Secondly, it doesn't mention the topic of the previous comment as it is a larger analysis of female and male brains. Exactly... so we agree? My point was regarding when you were asked if you meant you respond to OP, if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 11:56 PM |
| 1 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityI'm actually going to rescind my previous reply slightly because it seems your hypothesis is that there is a separate gender and sex marker, not a "trans" marker. I still stand by potential bias potentially finding certain things and not properly quantifying trans sexual neurological differences, but I wanted to clarify I understood your actual hypothesis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 08:56 PM |
| 1 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityThis question is ill-posed. Fair, I meant are you arguing that their brain is closer to the sex their gender corresponds with or the sex they were born as? The question would be better posed as what brought up that discussion in the first place? What exactly was being argued against? and this would be determined according to a ML algorithm for identifying sex and another ML algorithm for identifying gender identity. I think this brings up an interesting issue with using ML classification as the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 08:45 PM |
| -1 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityI assumed the first link would just be about gay people, so I only clicked on the second link since you specifically prefaced it as calling into question the idea of the trans brain. The second link's study is titled: "Dump the 'dimorphism': Comprehensive synthesis of human brain studies reveals few male-female differences beyond size". It only mentioned transgender people twice in passing, and again seems to be more about calling into question sexual dimorphism in general than specifically the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 08:11 PM |
| 0 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityI guess I don't really understand the context of your discussion then, because are you simply arguing against trans brains being more aligned to gender identity than birth sex? Different studies would most likely be using different brain metrics to classify which could lead to different findings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:51 PM |
| -1 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityBut the study you list as "debunking the trans brain" seems to be more in contradiction to OP's point than the trans brain idea. Transgender people are only mentioned twice, it's more about denying sexual dimorphism entirely. Which unless you disagree with the findings of the more recent article OP posted, it seems to disprove your argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:47 PM |
| -1 | New Stanford Study finds huge differences between male and female brain activityThis is incorrect. In this study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8955456/ they ran a machine learning with 90% predictive accuracy on the MRI images of trans brains and found that they were closer to cis male brains on average although slightly shifted towards cis female brains. I mean, that very study still concludes that the "slight shift" was significant and highly unlikely to occur naturally in brains that had influence from male hormones. So it still indicates a observable neu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:37 PM |
| 3 | Women suffer from the same information silo issue as dictators. And this is why they genuinely pontificate ungrounded advice.What big words does OP use? Lol, maybe you need to invest in a dictionary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 01:26 AM |
| 4 | Question for women - why do women shame men for having standards? What is the actual reason for this?May be a me thing but I've always disliked the word "petite", sounds creepy af. But the concoction of descriptors you've got going on is especially creepy. I wouldn't go as far as to say "pedo" but if my friend said that combination of words I'd make fun of him for sure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 12:21 AM |
| 21 | Why do men care if older single women are lonely?I think there’s a similar thing going on to when people shame others for getting an abortion when they’re infertile. They want something they can’t have, and project that insecurity onto people that don’t want that thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 05:26 PM |
| 4 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.I mean, I addressed that particular point. I don't think a woman who refuses to do housework but expects the man to provide is justified because it's an unequal responsibility in the relationship. Same with a man who expects a woman to do all the housework but can't provide enough for them to be comfortable. If both work, then I think household duties should be egalitarian, it would not be justified then to force duties onto the woman in the name of tradition since the man isn't picking up that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 05:20 PM |
| 5 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.I don't really understand the point of absolutism when it comes to this. If someone wants to adopt some parts but not all of a traditional lifestyle... so? I mean you might have trouble finding someone who is fine with that depending on what aspects you want to drop, it seems like you would want all or nothing which is fine but I don't think everyone needs to do that. I think the only issue arises when your means contradict your desires. A broke man cannot reasonably provide for a stay at home w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:40 PM |
| 25 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenFirst of all, you’re not describing “female selfishness” when you’re saying women prefer their partners to have good traits over bad. So they’re hypocrites bc they want men to be confident and care about them but not beat them and cheat on them? Gosh that’s sure unreasonable to expect in a partner (sarcasm)! If women are shaming men for not possessing certain masculine traits, that’s an issue. A man cries and opens up and the woman calls him a pussy? That’s toxic. A man loses his job and she cal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:36 PM |
| -1 | Women will defend women no matter whatWomen shame other women all the time, not really sure what you’re talking about to say they always defend other women. I think using this one post as an example to generalize doesn’t really track. This isn’t abhorrent behavior on the woman’s part either, so she didn’t have a preference against casual sex and then changed her mind? People aren’t entitled to others’ bodies and people are allowed to change their preferences. I’d need more info. Did she lie? For example bc she didn’t want to have se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:17 PM |
| 1 | The problem with modern marriage is that there are 0 repercussions for cheatingPrenups are frequently thrown out by judges This is the second person I've heard claim this, do you have a source? I've been googling for a while and have yet to find anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 02:05 AM |
| – | As a Man, the saying that "todays women are delusional in terms off standards" is not true. In the first time in 2000 Years, women can choose a Partner based on attraction and love only. This is a good thing.From all of the "alpha male" standards, I'm a loser. I don't work out, I'm not aggressive or overly confident, I'm not tall, I'm not incredibly handsome. I found a girlfriend on Tinder in about 3 months, first date I went on with someone on there. We've been together almost three years now. I simply was "myself". I can guarantee the majority of these men whining about standards are insufferable asses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/24 11:10 PM |
| 1 | If you, as a straight man, could get sex as easily as a gay man…Maybe when I was single, but I’m pretty satisfied in my relationship now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:19 AM |
| – | Why does society only entertain the idea of choice when it's comes to women??This is a false equivalency, it's just not what bodily autonomy is. It's regarding medical issues involving your body... not anything that tangentially has to do with your body. "Oh I'm being forced by the government to go to court, I have to use my legs to walk to court so that's in violation of my bodily autonomy." If you want to argue it's wrong that's another thing, but it is not a bodily autonomy issue. It's not "forcing you to work" either when it's related to income in the same way that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 02:03 AM |
| 1 | ''You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A MythAnd there it is, I figured you were religious since that's their favorite argument. There is no way to define morality objectively without some book that claims it's objective (although even within it the insane plethora of interpretation renders any individual interpretation far from objective), but that doesn't mean morality cannot be derived from logic. It's not "my feelings", it's people's feelings, in other words their emotional and physical well-being. So when you put these impossible stan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/24 12:40 AM |
| 2 | ''You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A MythSee, exactly. When you force people to become Socrates to argue about anything you’re derailing the discussion away from productive thought and towards an abstract philosophical one. There are two main types of harm: physical (pain and physical damage) and emotional (negative emotions and trauma). Harm would be causing these in another person as a direct result of your actions, with the level of harm being proportional to the level of negative effect caused. We compare harms all the time, which … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 04:17 PM |
| 2 | ''You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A MythSo you just read my comment, ignored it, and repeated his point? Smart. Idfk what you mean by Nazi party, if you mean Republicans then as much as I hate those idiots I’d say it’s an exaggeration. If you mean literally Nazis, young people aren’t so stupid that they vote for Nazis, and even if they did no third party has ever been elected president, much less a Nazi. The point is that emotional/sexual and political maturity are apples and oranges, so your feeble attempt to simply frame my argument… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 03:50 PM |
| 3 | ''You're a Creep Because The Brain Doesn't Develop Until 25'' Is A MythThis is such an intellectually dishonest discussion tactic meant to shut down any objections out the gate. There are many moral frameworks but forcing someone to get fundamental is not productive. You measure morality in harms, let’s start there. Firstly, there are many levels of maturity applicable to making calls on different situations. You would say a 12 year old is mature enough to stay home alone, but not to learn how to drive. There’s not a single cutoff where “at this point you’re mature… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/24 05:05 AM |
| 2 | Men who regularly do the dumping are high value.This is a rare instance of something that's so hilariously insane and wrong I have no idea to respond lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/24 07:53 PM |
| 3 | “women live life on easy mode” = men enabling women to live life ‘on easy mode’women are less likely to be assaulted in general https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvv.pdf When it comes to by their partner, women are more likely to be the victims of simple, aggravated, and sexual assault by a large margin. So it seems like many men are not doing a great job of protecting their women if they're the perpetrator. Even then, who are they protecting them from? Other men. I think the idea of men protecting women in a physical sense is hardly "enabling" them or making them "weak"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/24 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Women justify their biases against men all the time, but men are condemned for doing the samehttps://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvv.pdf I didn't say anything about murder. 90% of rape victims are female, they're also much more likely to be victims of simple and aggravated assault. Just because men get murdered more doesn't mean life is all peaches and cream for them. https://www.ilr.cornell.edu/news/faculty/street-harassment-statistics And even if they don't become victims, it doesn't mean women don't have reason to feel unsafe in public. Here's a list of stats from the above link: Six… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 10:50 PM |
| 1 | Women justify their biases against men all the time, but men are condemned for doing the sameYes but the amount of harassment the women experience on the daily where they’re in fear of their lives makes it far from some fantasy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Men are seen as more creepy doing the same actions as women. Let's debateI’ll be honest I’ve never heard of the first or third example, but yeah the 4th one is disgusting. There’s this idea that men aren’t supposed to take care of their kids, and so assumptions are made when they do. I heard this one Reddit story where a father took a parenting class and the women all called him a ped0 for changing his own daughter’s diaper. Could be a fake story but it’s definitely a thing that occurs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 05:20 AM |
| 3 | Women justify their biases against men all the time, but men are condemned for doing the sameI think it’s telling that you as a man assume it’s a hypothetical extreme example since you haven’t lived life as a woman and experienced it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Women justify their biases against men all the time, but men are condemned for doing the sameTo tackle your first example on the men side, women have reason to believe that. Women are frequently harassed and assaulted in public. It’s not about saying “all men will assault women alone at night”, but rather that it’s best to be cautious because it could result in their death or rape otherwise. 99% of rapists are male, and 1/5 of women reported experiencing attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. I know several women personally who were raped. Compare that to your biases towards wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 05:10 AM |
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