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I simply don't understand how if both parties are drunk and have sex, it's conventionally the woman who is talked about as being the victim of rape. If the guy was drunk how is he not a victim also, isn't he unable to give consent by law as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:52 AM
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I mean I'm just saying wouldn't it be accurate to posit in most cases where the man isn't awarded custody, he didn't really want custody in the first place? The caveat being maybe some men who want custody may not have the time, money, resources or education to see it through.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:18 AM
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Aren't there studies that show most men who proactively seek custody get it? I don't know just how extensive or how many hoops they have to jump through, but statistically men who set their mind to achieving custody succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 08:11 AM
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First of all, good points. Now forgive me for my little rant. His video is one of countless YT videos that are at best interesting viewing but with no real lasting relevance. That's kind of my problem is everyone - economists, doctors, health experts, homeopaths, ideologues and philosophers, are advertising their shit as revelatory of big secrets and truths when in reality it's some general truth mixed in with their own bullshit. Makes it shitty for the one video that actually has lasting value …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:55 AM
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Ok he's not a grifter and not stupid. My experience with these types of people is their content is thought provoking at best. There's little to no accuracy behind their predictions in that ultimately it's just kind of maybe an interesting video to watch if you are into the subject matter. Somewhat related, I always wondered what was the purpose of people throwing out dire economic predictions in articles and videos. Are they trying to warn people? Persuade gullible investors to dump or sell? Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:42 AM
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I'm going to say there's a chance that he's onto something, but the chance is not a big one. As is the case with all of these independent and alternative news documentaries and shit on YT where anyone can be a mass communicator, it's a lot of trash mixed in with some general points that have some merit for grifting or clicks. As in he's right about male dating struggles, he's wrong about some great revolution just like how armchair economists post videos about 1st world countries collapsing by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 07:33 AM
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Ideal height tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:27 AM
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That's a key point when people say things like "fat guys can be fit and attractive". Strong fat guys or fat guys on the fitter side look considerably better than regular or weak fat guys. The former are essentially men who work out consistently with good results but also don't say no to extra pizza or beer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 06:26 AM
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What copypasta is this,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 02:32 AM
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My grandparents can't stand each other and refuse to eat at the same table and sleep in the same bed. They just spend their days completely silent in a large-ish house. Hard to say if it's worth it to keep the family intact. I have the impression of you and your bf as like a Chinese-Korean Christian couple from well-to-do backgrounds. I would've assumed you're the Korean one as I've heard Chinese men being prized for surpassing the low bar of cooking or helping out with chores, but some things y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:44 AM
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Yea I know you aren't the type to say that I was jp lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:35 AM
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Whatever happened to "If men didn't exist women would dress even sexier"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:33 AM
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Anytime, you're one of the few people here without a perpetual stick up their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:16 AM
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Mine has wheatgrass and spinach also.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 01:03 AM
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This sounds demeaning but basically for these reasons I have doubts most people on this sub are UMC. There's this impression everyone here just has the time and luxury to live in the gym with their coconut water and kale smoothies and shitpost on PPD 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:55 AM
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I get the feeling a lot of people here just live in shit circumstances and the way they describe the opposite sex I wonder if they just are constantly surrounded by terrible people. Like talking about women racking up body counts in the 50s by age 30. Or somehow every man is a fat unkempt creep demanding a 10. Or how finding someone with a BMI under 25 is an unrealistic unicorn. This describes nothing but the trashiest of people or unfortunate living situations and area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:43 AM
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Just b/c you have options doesn't mean you don't care about the quality of people you date/fuck or their beliefs...I'm not saying I agree entirely but a lot of men think feminists are more likely to be entitled, cheat, or disregard the traditional feminine roles these men like. Even if you know you have the SMV to find someone else fairly quickly it's still a lot of investment in emotions, time, maybe money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:31 AM
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It's 60% for all women, but there's a lot of gray. Most of this 60% (40%) think feminism describes them somewhat well instead of very well. Given how ubiquitous feminist ideology is in the mainstream, to be optimistic this doesn't sound that bad. It just means a whole ton of women just toe the line but aren't especially dogmatic about anything. Then this number goes even lower if you choose certain areas over others eg avoiding big liberal cities. Then you still have the remaining 40% who don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:11 AM
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Then you should just say that instead of citing numbers. But I get it, everyone just wants to get a snarky comment in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:06 AM
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As long as you say the same to women who are surrounded by shitty men. Feel like it's a way of saying feminism is a good thing veiled in the form of "with these stats, good luck." In which case you should just argue for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:01 AM
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I hate "womp womp". Other examples of stupid unbearable reddit speak are use of the word "masterclass" to describe anything they think is good content and the "*checks notes*" thing to deliver a gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 10:16 PM
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A lot of models are like that. Eyes really far apart, large forehead, emaciated face to the point that it looks alien, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 02:41 AM
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Hmm difference in tastes then. B/c I'd consider her eyes to be unremarkable and a lot of the eyes on that sub to be much prettier. But I'm with you in that eyes alone aren't what catch me, it's how everything comes together.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:36 PM
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I get it. Even on good days when I'm having a lot of fun - or feeling very much at ease, I still feel very sleepy and tired by the early afternoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:35 PM
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It's not toxic if you just aren't attracted to it. It's natural for women to prefer masculine traits in men. Gender roles aren't a bad thing, and at the same time it doesn't necessarily mean there's anything wrong with you if you don't fit into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:21 PM
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I mean overall a lot of them are okay but i would say a lot of the eyes are pretty cute. I'm not really an eye person though actually, as long as they're good enough I'm happy, it's more about the rest of the face.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:19 PM
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A lot of them look cute/beautiful to me. Post some examples of what you would consider actually beautiful eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:18 PM
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Been an introvert my entire life. Emotional labor, well, if I need to talk to people might as well get paid for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:14 PM
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I have a very hypersocial job that puts me face-to-face with lots of people, maybe hundreds, on a daily basis. Some days I move around a lot, some days I don't, but I'm on my feet for hours at a time. I have no problem doing 1-2 hourlong physical workouts and I am not as tired after them as I am after just usually 4-5 hours of work. Is this normal? I just feel fucking drained like I could go to sleep forever and it's not even 1 pm. Eventually, I can still "power" through the rest of the day sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 11:09 PM
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Looks like a publicity stunt between two low-class people for clout.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:14 PM
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I've heard a lot of men say they don't like women who act masculine, who act entitled, loud or annoying, who exhibit the prescribed behavior of a girlboss. I don't think I've ever heard a man under the age of 40 say they want a quote unquote submissive woman, though I don't doubt they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 11:09 PM
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It was pure idiocy and choking in the moment. I was just trying to say literally anything to make conversation. Societal expectations and norms are one topic and it's happened many times in the past but it just so happened this one time was when the most ridiculous thing came out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 10:19 PM
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But if you say your looksmatch is an 8 everyone's going to read that you think you're an 8 which is the same either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:31 PM
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Probably my #1 most cringe socially shit thing I've ever said was when we were having a first date dinner and I was desperately looking for something to talk about so I literally said "I really dislike kids" as a way to just talk about social expectations of having a family as a conversation topic (LOL), not realizing it could easily be taken as being a creep moving too fast too soon. She just kind of stared open-mouthed and said "I...I don't know where this is coming from all of a sudden." The …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:29 PM
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Wouldn't rating your looksmatch just mean rating yourself? Why not just ask what you would rate yourself lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:26 PM
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People like speaking up about things and projects they will never watch or entertain b/c they are invested in their narratives. Most of the people who hated the casting of Little Mermaid which was an actual movie were never going to watch it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:17 PM
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They're not meant to be comparable, just highlighting the difference in critique. You know if she looked old and haggard they would get on her about that too despite possibility of CGI or whatever. Also, I think this is meant to be a play so I'm guessing it's just going to be live performances and never on screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:03 PM
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Everyone shitting on Francesca Amewudah-Rivers being cast as Juliet b/c of her looks but won't talk about why Tom Holland looks like he's 45 now and 20 years older than his costar?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:57 PM
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It's true so much of sexual arousal is mental though. Like if you had no idea it was a dude's mouth you would still be able to cum. One time I was jerking off to what I thought was a very beautiful woman and then toward the end I found out in like the sidebar she was trans - which completely turned me off but...physiologically at that point....it was past the point of no return and...too late x_x...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:39 PM
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Does that work for straight women with ugly men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:33 PM
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It's just an alternative media area that's prominent enough to gain a following. It's nothing much to do with the actual content again as it is that if you like it exclusively to mainstream stuff and you grew up in the west you probably have the personality profile of someone who has not adjusted well to convention. I would say comparatively overall anime and kpop are kind of more "infantile" or "safe" in their aesthetics and overall presentation so it probably caters to the socially underdevelo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:32 PM
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more like if only the guys in here loved getting their dicks sucked by men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:28 PM
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I dunno, I have a lot of gay friends and most if not all of them are in long-term relationships. That's not to say they don't have the inherent problems and stressors of everyone else in LTRs though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:23 PM
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Kinda related to why so many women get so sensitive or offended when ugly men hit on them like afraid it means they are in the same league as the ugly guy. They judge themselves by it and other women probably do too. Don't they know by now a lot of men are indiscriminate or don't even know what their own league is? And even if they knew, they wouldn't care. Men don't get women out of their league by not trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:11 PM
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Maybe it's proof that people who are attracted to men don't have nearly any of the issues or problems as people who are attracted to women. Straight women here aren't posting their struggles, they're just playing defense by rebuking straight men who post their struggles. Edit: Reminds me of a Bill Burr bit where a lesbian was rude to him for no reason, and he found understanding and realized why she was in such a shit mood and out of sorts was b/c she probably lives with another woman or has to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 06:01 PM
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My friend sold feet pics regularly to make it through nursing school. She was so matter-of-fact about it too when she told me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:35 PM
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This place is full of weebs which means they are likely socially underdeveloped and neurodivergent as hell which explains all the never touched grass delusional takes on life and dating. It's not because of the actual content in anime or kpop, it's b/c if you're into this then you probably didn't adjust well and turned to niche or alternative media for comfort. No racist, am half-asian and have plenty of experiences with non-asian people who tried to start convo or bond with me by citing random …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:32 PM
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A lot of people word this poorly or don't bother to parse the nuances but what they mean is the average woman is deemed physically attractive [enough] by many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 06:40 AM
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It's not entertaining to me at least. Multiple separate situations it's people coming to bitch and lament about their relationship woes but it's clear their SO is a complete piece of shit and we keep telling them to leave. Then they agree that they should leave but don't actually leave b/c they're afraid of being alone or whatever. Then they come back a couple months later with the same thing knowing we're just going to have to say the same thing in response b/c we've been over it 42380958 times…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 01:13 AM
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There's obviously no better way to learn than being in an actual relationship, but it's true you can also learn plenty just from being observant and around a lot of people in everyday life. I guess I believe that but at the same time it can also be very depressing. You don't have to be the target of mistreatment to be negatively impacted, if you become aware enough you notice all the microaggressions and bullshit people do to each other and it can discourage you from further forming close bonds …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:26 AM
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One of the most deluded takes I'd ever heard here was a woman saying Devito and the soccer player Cristiano Ronaldo would be on equal footing in terms of dating if both were in their prime. When I said how ridiculous it was that she herself probably didn't believe what she was arguing she said something like "Well Ronaldo would just be hanging out in bars full of dudes who watch soccer whereas Devito would be touring the country with way more fans including female fans." whaaaat The mental gymna…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:14 AM
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A lot of people are suggesting this place is full of UMC people who have the luxury to live in the gym. The amount of downvotes and pushback I get from even suggesting sustained weight loss is achievable or that 25% BF isn't good for a man says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:06 AM
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I'm gonna need to see a picture of this headturner or at least a description or public figure he resembles.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:50 AM
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There are a lot of hot girls on reddit. They're all weird though. Safe to say everyone on Reddit is weird. You can tell from places like incel subs/forums there isn't actually too much of a correlation between what someone says and feels and how they look. You're probably right in that the extroverted neurotypical types are less likely to be regular users and if they're socially successful the chances of them being goodlooking are higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 12:01 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:16 PM
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My friend is a tiny asian guy and ate 6 big macs once. I think they were having a bet that whoever eats the most the other ones pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:08 PM
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I read "he'd feel seek" in a russian accent. Voice typing ftw~
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 11:06 PM
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Damn. My record was 4 1/2 quarterpounders with cheese but that was a dare/contest type deal, not just a regular thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:44 PM
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Did automaticmeaning the bmi guy get banned
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:40 PM
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I don't see the confusion. I think OP had sex as part of the whole of attraction but wasn't focusing solely on it, but if you want to talk about just sex, ofc you can lose attraction to someone but it doesn't sound farfetched at all in the sense that if you were sexually attracted to them before you might still be now. Even if you broke up. People are sexually attracted to a lot of people besides their SOs if they were to ever admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:24 PM
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Miss what, the speculation in a study you turned into a foregone universal conclusion? You're either around some POS men or you're a POS yourself b/c you can't imagine still feeling things for an ex without sex involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:12 PM
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That's pretty dickish of you to say like you assume there's no way anyone or men could have this type of fondness without sex on the brain. At this point I have no reason to believe OP is being dishonest or miscommunicating. Edit: I also don't see why it's so hard to believe, to not even talk about relationships there are people I had a falling out with and am still able to appreciate memories or the good things about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:07 PM
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The blue-piller in me would say it's b/c women focus all their attention and affection on one man at a time so if she's no longer with him I could see why the feelings are not there, but we all know that's not necessarily true. Maybe women do more self-talk in convincing themselves how wrong their ex was for them and so they are unable to see their exes as anymore than nothing after that, who knows. My relationship with my exes have been cordial but predictably distant. It's almost like if you s…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:02 PM
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That doesn't explain the disparity in terms of how men are more likely to still feel attraction or fondness for their exes versus women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 10:01 PM
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If a woman is to have casual sex, she knows that she is risking more social scrutiny than a man would receive, and since it's purely sex it will be much more based on his physical attributes vs anything like personality or positive long-term traits like kindness - maybe some tingles re: vibes, status, dominance. If it's someone she's willing to risk her reputation or judgment - including her physical health or unwanted pregnancy - just to fuck him it's much more likely he is higher up on the loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 09:03 PM
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I just find relationships, much less marriage, very stressful. Life is stressful enough and then you have a whole 'nother person in the equation, a gigantic new variable that needs to be accounted for every day of your life thereon. Even when there's nothing wrong it feels like a huge burden. A lot if it may be due to just my inborn temperament and issues of distrust, paranoia etc. but I would need to sift and make it through all this before we even begin talking about the other person and how t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:36 PM
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She isn't. That's how stupid they are. And Taylor Hill is supposedly 1 out of 10,000. I mean she's pretty, maybe a little bit skinnier than the average hot girl if that's what you're into, but 1 in 10,000 please GTFO I'd take Glau or a lot of the 6s or 7s any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 08:02 PM
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lolk
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 07:16 AM
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Yeah I jumped the gun. I think I misinterpreted your comment as saying we were not comfortable in our sexuality and that if we were comfortable we wouldn't be responding or whatnot. Honestly it hasn't been directed at me often but it's just a pet peeve of mine for people to throw out insults that reinforce whatever people are supposedly against. Shows hypocrisy and eliminates credibility and I can't take them seriously onward. It is kinda true though, I actually make sexual suggestive jokes to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:50 AM
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Somehow talking about height privilege is equal to writing fanfic about Chad's throbbing cock. Are you listening to yourself? You can assume I'm gay. Like I said it makes zero difference lol. My gay friends are fucking great if I'm going to be likened to them it's a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:39 AM
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Not a boomer/x. I got no problem being called gay. I do however, think it's in pretty bad taste for people who are supposedly all about progressiveness and acceptance to make homophobic jokes (or prison rape jokes toward homophobic criminals) toward men they deem homophobic just to get them back. No matter what you actually believe, by putting those words out there you're just perpetuating problematic trains of thought in order to win edgelord points. Just like feminists who talk all day about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:23 AM
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I have tons of gay friends, literally zero problem being assumed or called gay lol. It's a tale as old as time for people to assume that - or make jokes/comments about - men who are hyper-aware of or talk a lot about looks or height privilege in other men are "in the closet" and "want Chad's dick more than women do". The reality is a lot of these men are on the spectrum, overthink things neurotically, and hyperfixate and overanalyze details and miss the forest for the trees. I fall into this pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 06:20 AM
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it's over for 6'1"cels
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:44 AM
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Herm herm gherh homophobic joke to derail point herhgh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:43 AM
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But it does. If he was 5'7" he'd be getting nobody. They may not be your #1 type but six foot plus guys with remotely decent bodies (which doesn't apply to him) and faces are basically gigachad. As you know mediocre tall white dudes have zero issues dating. As long as they aren't PPD autists.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:42 AM
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But they have a perfect starting point to just work on their body and grooming with bare minimum social skills. Men who are genuinely facially too ugly such that their height doesn't help are very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:35 AM
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So many dudes here 6'2" 6'3" complaining about this and that. Eat shit and GTFO, that's all I have to say lol. The world is yours you have no excuse. Edit: Inb4 "6'2 is manlet-tier in 2024".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 04:30 AM
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I would say male competition in the modern day has been fairly muted b/c physical violence is illegal and much more controlled. Traditionally, biologically, men compete by physically threatening or overpowering one another. Women do it more subtly by social exclusion, gossip, etc. Thus female competition is much more prevalent and acceptable as you won't go to jail for stabbing your friend in the back as long as it's metaphorical. This reflects my observations, although it's true none of this ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 05:56 PM
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Petty and disingenuous. Feminists complain incessantly about male apathy and lack of male accountability eg "men need to speak up and hold other men accountable, feminism requires men to succeed". The message being "there still isn't enough being done, not enough men speaking out". So no, the only way it's a "faulty" analogy is if we highlight the sheer difference between the feminist movement with all its backing on a global scale vs disgruntled men online almost universally panned in the mains…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:56 PM
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Do you say this to feminists who talk about men being apathetic or looking the other way with respect to women's rights with an entire left-leaning progressive media machine - and not pockets of men on the fringes online - at their back? "Nobody's looking the other way, look at how many people are talking about this! Including you, OP!"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 11:26 AM
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"All men are trash" "All men need to take accountability or hold other men accountable" "Yes all men" but then "Women aren't a monolith". This is a lapse in logic 5-year olds understand. Also, "Stop objectifying women" but also "Re: 80/20 rule - No woman wants a mid man, blame nature for giving us eyes"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:51 AM
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Honestly surprised he's come up empty at 6'5". He ain't ugly but his style in that picture is absolute shit and he's kind of pasty and potato-ey. Looks like he has plenty of room to improve and max out his stats too which is a luxury not all guys have. eg weight loss, tanning, cutting, lifting, style of dress and hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:41 PM
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You assumed I was being hypocritical by criticizing women who marry rich men but not vice versa. That was shown to not be the case. You then assumed I brought up rich men as an example. Not the case as shown. Now you decide to go back to "most men don't have houses and cars before marriage". How is this relevant at all, and even if it was how does it invalidate the OP re: dangers of marriage in the cases where a lot of assets ARE involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:43 PM
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It was clear you got nothing out of the OP except "what the fuck, men are usually never rich" even though it has nothing to do with the OP. Just a reflexive reaction and you took OP (by a female poster who usually defends women on this sub btw) as an attack on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:37 PM
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The OP is simply talking about the dangers of an imbalance of assets in marriage, which happens quite a bit. Whether it's the woman who's rich or the man who's rich (which happened more traditionally and still currently, but that's irrelevant), it doesn't matter, the dangers remain. Many people are going to continue to marry for money and/or assets are going to play a big role in reasons for marriage. I'm saying there was no need for you to just use this post as another opportunity to slam men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:13 PM
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Nice deflection but I'm not surprised. Thanks for the life advice I guess lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 01:57 PM
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Nice deflection, you're extremely disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 01:56 PM
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The rich man example was put forth in the OP even though she was speaking of these situations without gender specification - ie any time there is a significant imbalance in assets between the two parties. Also, if it was me who brought up "rich men" then why did the person I was responding to initially decide to make it about men not owning anything? Think you can comprehend all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:32 AM
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At least the accents are cool. A lot better than British ones. Although you might not think so if you're Aussie yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:22 AM
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Then the man isn't entitled to her shit. OP clearly inferred this isn't gender specific, but as typically is the case you guys are so caught up in Team Pinkpill Woman lol all you saw and focused on in this post was how to take a stab at men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:16 AM
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Even at my most desperate I would just use my hand. I never understood why men would just go for it because she's there and willing. People argue maybe I'm not down bad enough but I'm just as horny as any other dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 08:14 AM
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You miss the point, and anyway OP was specifically referring to any time there is a [significant] imbalance in wealth or assets and used the rich man as an example b/c traditionally these types of partnerships were and still are a thing. Also, these situations are not especially farfetched or solely for the uber-rich. If I ever get married I will definitely be much more established with portfolios and my own place before I cross that bridge. Many people nowadays aren't marrying at 25 like they u…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:57 AM
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Seems like the average man would have more to lose for the same reasons a rich man would be wary of marriage. What was it Chris Rock said, a rich man who loses half his shit is still rich. An average man might have to move back in with his parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 07:50 AM
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I think the hypocrisy is important to point out within the context of this entire sub which is for debating between the genders. The bigger picture, how the genders are currently treated in society, are always there and relevant if it's a PPD post.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:51 PM
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Yet one is freely accepted if not common and embraced by convention. You can recognize both are wrong while noting the hypocrisy in the way they are addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:40 PM
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I read something earlier on this week about how the problem is actually that people think you're always supposed to be happy aka toxic positivity - eg good vibes only, you deserve this, you deserve that, everyone's a winner, treat yourself. You're not going to be happy all the time even in an ideal life situation, nor are you meant to be. Humans are almost designed to go through periods of struggle and suffering to meet their needs. Then the psychological and emotional effects are exacerbated be…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:33 PM
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If you're autistic or very neurodivergent this is true. If not, masking clearly can be effective, and some people are just better at walking the walk, talking the talk, hiding what's inside. That's why there are so many women who justify their past bad mate choices by saying they had no idea the guy was such an asshole despite their conscious attempts to vet and use their intuition. Additionally, I just think a lot of people lack the ability to effectively read social cues and nuances and get th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:18 PM
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Yes, it’s a very stupid argument used be weirdos who have no accomplishments of their own and would rather piggyback off of what other men have done rather than showcase why they as individuals are of any value. It's socially acceptable in this day and age to criticize and complain about men as monoliths as evident in mainstream articles, editorials, columns, and campaigns, so why is it wrong to praise men as monoliths?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:01 PM
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I guess I also don't ever feel the need to purposely go to a college campus since I'm not in college anymore. My work takes me all across the city and also I am constantly surrounded by people in the 20-40 age range tho often skewing toward the younger end. Why don't you visit some social media pages of random attractive young women? Do their bfs mog you? Many do not. What did the poster in your screenshot say again? "Women like in-shape men" and her guy is 5'10 190? LOL. I don't need to touch g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:35 AM
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Well I'm going to be honest your case is either very rare i.e. you really seem to be just surrounded by severely deluded fat women and/or there's something about how you're coming across to people. It's still hard to believe that screenshot you put up earlier is a real interaction, but then again it was with someone on PPD and I don't think highly of a lot of people here. I may just have to say everything I've believed and observe may not apply in select parts of America eg a red state with high…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:27 AM
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Which means their social and emotional intelligence are REALLY bad. I always laugh when the occasional poster is like "I'm a 6'1 white guy with a good face and I can't get women to save my life. It's b/c they only want the top 1%" and it's either he's 1) not actually facially attractive - although it's not like this is absolutely necessary anyway or 2) he must have the most garbage social skills of peace. No remotely normal decent looking 6'1 white guy is struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:34 AM
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I agree women do like muscles. If you are 6' 160 and with low BF you'll have plenty of lean mass showing to spare. It's a lot different than 6' 160 and skinnyfat, which the OP further up isn't. In the past I've gotten a lot of "you're too skinnyyyy" from women who nevertheless still asked me out. I just have never seen being thin as a problem for me or most men bar extreme cases. Actual malnourished looking stick figures are fairly rare in America unless you're talking druggies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:59 AM
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If you're in a state (assuming you're American) where obesity isn't as prevalent, 6' 160 lbs will honestly be a preferred body type and even in places where obesity is high but there are a lot of delusional fat people out there who think a BMI of 25 is a stick figure. Ofc you'll find women who specifically shoot for muscular men who think 6' 160 is too small but...who cares, you have the majority of young women preferring leaner slighter builds.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 12:52 AM
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Nope, it's just that fat is so normalized fat people think they're normal and they view normal weight people as too skinny. There are literally men here who think 25% bodyfat is okay or even looks good JFL. I keep telling you but you won't believe me, go to any place where obesity isn't rampant, just visit any random ass cute chick's instagram in an area where people are fairly fit - try California, Hawaii, Utah, NY, Colorado, or even WA or OR. Not difficult to find women hooked up with guys les…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 11:32 PM
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People always use the extreme to argue their point. There are tall decent looking guys on this site who are having trouble finding nonfat women. Whenever men who struggle post their photos it's almost never an ugly guy. I'm not going to say they probably don't have personality issues, and/but it's clear I wasn't referring to very short men in the bottom percentiles of facial attractiveness. Just regular dudes for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/24 04:22 AM
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Maybe location matters, I just have a hard time believing a young man can't say he is okay with an average girl unless he includes fat girls. When you start getting into 30s, 40s and beyond, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 10:06 PM
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I see people criticize a lot of young men for not wanting a fat woman. I don't think they deserve the criticism as long as they aren't fat themselves. Just b/c they don't want a fat woman doesn't make them entitled or with unreasonable standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 10:01 PM
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Alright, but is it unreasonable for a man (or woman) to require that their partner not be ugly and not be fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:53 PM
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This right here, I absolutely don't get the point of wearing lifts - or lying about your height on OLD. They're going to find out eventually, usually sooner rather than later. It's like women lying about their weight but height is much easier to quantify and assess visually on sight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 06:34 AM
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Women are not worried about men threatening to opt out because there will always be enough men to commit. The high value ones, the blue-pilled ones who toe the line every day and will never change of varying SMV, and so on. If all men got on the MGTOW train women would definitely not be ok - it's clear most young women or women in their prime choose to be in relationships by default anywhere you look. But the fact is this won't ever even come close to happening, so it's a non-issue. It's like us…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:37 PM
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Celebrity expert/doctor type who shills unproven supplements and alternative science, at worst he gives misleading baseless info and harmful advice to people prioritizing their health and at best he wastes their time and money. My contempt for these asswipes supersedes any respect I would have just bc he's good with women. Also, if the word "biohacking" comes up in any of their content it's a major red flag to begin with. The cult following these motherfuckers have is similar to astrology and cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 08:02 PM
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Das why you give them the interval training version of personality. Be a dickwad sometimes and then a nice providing sensitive doormat other times. Keeps them guessing and intrigued. She won't ever be bored and somehow feel like she is getting the best of both worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 07:44 PM
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Not true unless you are irredeemably ugly - which is very very rare. Getting a good body will help any guy regardless of what he's starting with, and arguably helps guys who have less going for them initially the most. It's true height is also a big component and unfortunately sans surgery not changeable (still not absolutely necessary unless you're super short), but I always say you put an average face on a 6'2" jacked body you basically got gigachad. Average face on 5'7" whatever body, immedia…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 04:04 PM
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I agree with this. A lot of women I know have been initially interested in a guy for their looks but then ended up getting bored or disgusted very quickly because he turned out to be limp and indecisive. I would say physical strength was probably prized more in the past when it was more useful, necessary, and relevant. Women still like muscles visually though. You can't undo millennia of evolutionary programming, even if the guy isn't actually strong or doesn't need to be physically strong the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:55 PM
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I don't think I've ever been cockblocked by a woman, at least not that I know of. I've been cockblocked by men before. It's infuriating like you want to punch the guy in the face but you can't. Thankfully it didn't work but I just remember thinking the entire time "Hey when are you going to get the fuck out of here?"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:53 PM
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I think statistically speaking it's undisputed men cheat more, maybe OP was just asking why in many online spaces it's either mostly women confessing to cheating or content about women cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:39 AM
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Didn't the extended family dynamic already exist with earlier generations of established American groups (eg most white people as well as black people)? The rugged individualism and smaller family unit didn't really set in until the past 100 years or so. Stronger reliance on extended family structures and close-knit surrounding community is more of an immigrant thing when you have not settled in for that long relatively speaking and need the social support and network.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:36 AM
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I have a similar degree of pathological distrust for people, and in a long-term relationship context, for women. Part of me really believes I won't be okay with being with anyone again unless we meet anonymously online and talk for a long time and agree to meet and get married, and also I'm going to tell her I'm very ugly and completely broke and 50 years old. If she's still game based on only how much she likes my personality and jokes, then maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 08:20 PM
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The cock carousel thing is a myth, unless you're just talking about young people exploring and being careless but everyone does that. Manospherians have this idea of the average woman racking up over 40-50 body counts by the age of 30 when the typical "hoe phase" is like as you said 3 guys during a period of months or a year...if there is a hoe phase at all. There are obviously select populations where the people are outliers and promiscuous but it's not the norm. Average body count for a lifeti…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:46 AM
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Women have a more inborn tendency to conform because it's safe survival-wise. If other women think he's a worthy mate then she falls in line to think so as well because evolutionarily speaking he's more likely to be one. It all fits together and again conformity doesn't negate the idea of preselection. A lot of it is also subconscious. She chases the same man her friends do b/c there's something driving her to do it that's designed to ensure the highest probability of securing a high value man. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:33 AM
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I hear so much of two polar opposites. People now are complete sluts, hookup culture is out of control, American values in decay and degeneracy flourishing. But then also, people aren't having sex anymore and prefer to stay home on their phones and computers because they suck socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:25 AM
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the man has been vetted and approved by another woman so he must be desireable The older I get the more I realize this is not really the case, and that it is much more to do with the herd mentality seen in almost every other area of women’s selection. You can see it in random trends or styles that suddenly become “hot” to women, or male “sex symbols” who are objectively ugly but fawned over by women to the point of hysteria. These 2 sound similar if not the same and at the very least the 2nd doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 02:21 AM
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What were their BMIs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:30 PM
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Ironically his face would look better if it wasn't so puffy or square, like actually less Chadlike and more sleek or streamlined. Also goes to show height and build are huge factors. Put his face on a skinny or chubby 5'7" guy and he's immediately invisible. Honestly since he's well styled, well above 6 feet and muscular his face is almost an afterthought i.e. women don't care as long as it's not ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:23 PM
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Good words, but also things would prob be different if the men knew the primary reason you were there. Also probably depends if the men are brash young men with their own dating struggles or just random men in the community - maybe some who are too poor or with other pressing problems to prioritize dating. It's not even about "why are you taking our women" or being possessive, it's more just knowing that a guy has moved to where you are just b/c he knows the men there are inferior competition to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 09:08 PM
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Since as someone mentioned Passport Bros is about going to a country where there is less/weaker competition, it would make sense that assuming the local men know the motivations behind this trend they would develop a hostility toward foreign single men or expats coming into their country. Is this a common sentiment, do they not care, are there not enough of these foreign men to matter? I can't imagine the local men taking it too kindly if they know you're there b/c you happen to be taller and ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:39 PM
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Same as how most women react toward MGTOW. Fine go do your thing, just don't feel the need to remind us every 5 minutes that you quit and aren't playing anymore it's annoying and nobody gives a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 08:11 PM
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yup
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:45 PM
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Poor trashy people have way more kids than educated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 07:40 PM
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I mean at least that means they are consistent. Would be weirder if men wanted virgins but also women with lots of relationship experience, as inferred by the guy you were responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 06:58 PM
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Agree social skills and social circle are of utmost importance if your goal is to have success meeting and dating women. Unfortunately good looks however especially help if you're a complete creep, because the creepy ass shit you do will either be interpreted positively, ignored, or hamstered away. It's actually with creepy shit that the looks halo becomes the most apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 05:31 PM
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She looks like asian sydney sweeney.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 10:19 PM
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If she's tall, thicc, athletic, topless with a cool accent, snug red tights and hits you with a spinning lariat, that isn't the girl you had your eye on all night. That's Zangief.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:50 PM
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No matter what a particular man does or how he spends his day, he has one thing in common with all other men - he spends it in a degrading manner. And he himself does not gain by it.* I feel like I'm gaining a lot of coffee and good food, day trips and gaming time. I still have to work, but most people do. I suppose I have to admit if I never planned on women in the future again I wouldn't be as regimented with things like skincare, finances or exercise, but those things are for myself too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:55 PM
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Women assess everything almost subconsciously through the lens of status. Money indicates and affords power, freedom, comfort, versatility, social dominance. 'Yeah well it's not the actual money' ....no shit. Also OP speaks in absolutes just like every other autist here, as if in a room the most attractive guy is a 9/10 working retail and the rich(er) guys are bridge trolls. A well-connected 6-7/10 with a nice portfolio and salary is beating out a 8-9 with a mediocre desk job every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 06:49 AM
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Any man? Really? That why our current society is filled with people who work their asses off and aren't remotely close to even being comfortable? That's enough PPD for today. I can't deal with this autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:12 PM
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You have to be super autistic to come to the first conclusion. I'm guessing that's why a lot of people here come to the first conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:06 PM
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Alright so, according to you you technically don't have "looks" unless you're the best looking. The premises people start with here are mind-boggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:05 PM
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99% of the time looks aren't set in stone. Why do people always see looks as either a 10/10 or a 5'2" guy born with severe facial deformities? Most men fall in the middle. It's not a level playing field and some need to work harder than others but there are very few men where if they became fit and practiced grooming and skincare, they wouldn't pass the looks thresholds of many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 11:01 PM
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Yeah, the amount of men who won't achieve at least "some" dating success after looksmaxxing due to being irredeemably ugly is very very small. The looksmaxxing process is nothing compared to the process to become financially stable or to improve social skills and intelligence if those are the reasons you're struggling in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:53 PM
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The bar is low as fuck so I'm not sure that says anything. Look at the most recent comment just now in this thread. People literally just seeing what they want to see, with the comprehension and vocabulary prowess of a 2nd grader, if I'm being optimistic. How anyone takes anything seriously here with such rampant shameless stupidity on tap is beyond me. And this is one of the better subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 10:46 PM
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Sometimes nothing is wrong, you're glad and thankful it happened, you have treasured lifelong memories, but things don't hit the same as they used to, you're bored and looking for something new and it's time to move on. Sometimes I wonder if the reason why many LTRS end on bad terms is b/c they didn't break up when they should have, probably from social pressures to stay together similar to your sentiments. For what it's worth I'm fairly traditional-minded in a sense too, so it's not like I am e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:40 PM
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...It does though? It's one of the most intense sustained aerobic exercises you can do without getting into anaerobic territory. People just don't do it b/c 1) they haven't thought of it it's so simple 2) they can't do it for very long and 3) it looks stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:29 PM
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In that case do you even need a rope? A while back whenever I needed a short but intense workout in a pinch I would just jump in place. Seemed to do the job, versus almost all other types of cardio, jumping in place or jump-roping accelerates your HR and winds you quickly without purposely pacing yourself but then it just seems like you're going too slow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 04:42 PM
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You put it more succinctly than I did. I need to work on brevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:48 PM
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Due to women being more sexually fluid I think maybe the ones who just lean hard into women are the ones least likely to be naturally attracted to masculinity, with height being one of the components of such. Once in a while a straight female friend will point a woman out like "That's my gay crush/I'd go gay for her" and it's often a woman that is attractive but with decidedly more masculine features and demeanor.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:46 PM
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Its literally scientifically proven that women can be friends with ppl they arent attracted to while men cant Ima need to see a source. Typical reddit just some random assertion with complete confidence based on absolutely nothing. I have many female friends, some attractive, some not. It doesn't affect how I treat them b/c I care about them as people. There will always be some type of potential tension, sexual tension, even some types of awkwardness for whatever reason with all sorts of friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 03:38 PM
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Cue that one response "If you can't get bitches with a yacht you realllly can't get bitches."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 06:49 AM
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People can be emotionally unavailable and still sensitive to rejection along with all other sorts of insecurities and self esteem issues. Sometimes the emotional availability is a defense mechanism that serves as protection from being hurt. Not saying it's healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:03 PM
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I don't agree with a lot of the men in this sub. But I will say, the reason why a lot of men are "telling women what they think and feel" is because they don't think women can be relied upon to tell the truth, either on purpose or not, about what they think or feel, esp in the context of dating. I imagine a lot of men have had bad luck or little success following the advice of their female friends or by listening to what women say they prefer in men, and so on. Most men on these types of subs ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:47 PM
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The wall doesn't mean women can't find men anymore. It's when they realize they don't have the same SMV and can't attract the same caliber of men as they could when they were younger. When they see a sharp drop in IOIs, favors and attention. This happens well before 50, although it varies when from woman to woman. As the narrative goes, this is distressing because a lot of women have a hard time being okay with dating a man later down the line who is of lesser value than who they were able to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 09:09 PM
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I did some research on this and supposedly your body can learn to maintain the same weight on a smaller (or larger) amount of food, but it's also not permanent. It's not entirely very fluid either as in you can "fix" it but it takes time. Honestly I think you should just take up regular cardio/interval training and weights. People say shit like "cardio is useless" "abs are made in the kitchen" and "but you burn 500 calories for an hour of cardio which can be undone with a piece of cake". Burning…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:12 PM
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So basically it's still true, just not at the same time. Billy Beta: She doesn't find me attractive and is just with me for my resources and bc I'm a doormat, but at least as long as she's with me she won't be fucking any other men she's actually wet for.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 08:04 PM
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Contrary to all the RP stigma and locker room talk, it's because you can actually move out of the friendzone. It's not impossible for her to see you in a different light over time or when circumstances change. I see it happen. But for the record, most guys in the friendzone aren't ever self-aware or socially competent enough to make themselves into men their female friends would find attractive or as potential romantic partners. They just hang around b/c they still think there is a chance - whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 10:52 PM
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If the woman is the one who initiated the breakup or was unhappy chances are she emotionally moved on a long time ago so it just seems like she recovered quickly right after. That's what I've noticed. Nobody just breaks up when they feel things aren't working out. There's a lot of talking and trying and failure that can go on for months or even years. Usually when the breakup finally happens people have been struggling, unhappy and frustrated for a long time and it's not surprising to know many …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 08:54 PM
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Even before the fact that bluepill doesn't ever say personality is all that matters, there are many aspects to personality that may or may not inspire visceral and romantic attraction. Being kind and caring are positive components of a good personality, but so are charisma, emotional intelligence, and in western culture, a competent easy type of extroversion. Many men who are friendzoned have no problem being caring or good listeners but lack some of the latter traits. Despite all this I never g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:53 PM
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That's another thing too. People with impressive academic and professional credentials or accolades so you would think they wouldn't have a problem with basic cognition or carrying on logical discussions. Nobody is free of bias but you would also think they wouldn't be as prone to it. But no. Not on this planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:35 AM
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I've just faced and dealt with too many people on a daily basis and ofc the internet is worse. Even if they aren't "mean" I'm just sick of the stupidity and incompetence. Like I often ask myself how the fuck did they get this far without just accidentally walking out into traffic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 06:20 AM
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Sometimes I can give this vibe off but it's not smugness, it's a reactive, aggressive insulting tone for reasons I can easily explain. It's b/c my temperament or the way I was brought up makes it so I am naturally quick to trust people or at least trust people have basic common sense and cognitive function. As you can imagine this approach has led me to a lot of eye-opening unwelcome revelations with how biased, delusional and group-think-oriented people are even when they sound normal. And we h…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 05:57 AM
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Seems to be an influx of stupid ass men lately but what else is new this place was never known for its geniuses. However I'm not sure if we have more female lurkers or everyone is just more blue-pilled, but usually the OPs that side with women or the interests of women here tend to have more upvotes, if that says anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 03:23 AM
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I agree and get it. This isn't even talking about marriage, I've been on dates or out with beautiful women and I'm just like I can't handle this. In a world where we are tempted ten to hundreds of times a day, I'll just save you the time and sabotage things right now so you don't have to figure out how to slowly and politely remove yourself from my life b/c you found Chad or other interesting guys who are for sure hitting you up nonstop. I realize this mentality is extremely unattractive to wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:07 AM
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Yeah but she is beautiful. If she wasn't she wouldn't appeal to him, probably at all. On her end, it's clear looks didn't play a major role in why she wanted him. Just to reiterate at her level, not a huge exaggeration in her extended sphere she can have any man she wants basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:52 AM
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What if she was average looking or below? Status is a bonus or less significant factor for men when they already are attracted to a celebrity for their looks. Like sure successful businessmen or surgeons don't want a girl who works at pizza hut even if she's really cute. But status alone attracts women unless he's really ugly...and even then, as in Beyonce's case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:46 AM
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Any top-tier model hot woman. At the very least, status would be a much lesser factor even though successful men at that level do care about the woman's level as well to an extent. Beyonce can't replace Jay-Z with any 10/10 male model because she's not wired to value the same thing. She could have armies of these dudes, every night, with a snap of her fingers, but she won't b/c Jay-Z is the man with the #1 status in her genre. If she finds another man, no doubt he'll be better looking but it'll …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 03:39 AM
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Maybe, maybe not, but if they are hateful I don't think most of these people are as unaware as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:28 PM
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You haven't come across misandric and misogynistic people out there who know they are such? You'll find plenty of asswipes in this sub alone who are proud of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 09:23 PM
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THAT'S the example she gave of a masculine shitty American woman? Like wanting an apple and having millions to choose from and then picking the orange by mistake. Would wife her up in a second if she was down and I wasn't mentally ill and pathologically distrustful. Physically she is also more my type but the Lebanese woman is undeniably pretty as well but in a different way. Her attitude and war-paint makeup style however are a turnoff. Would like to add men and women have always been pretty ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 12:46 AM
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Activity, diet, sleep, and change of environment helped me get off of them. If I had all those in place at the start I probably could've avoided them entirely. If someone's going to start taking them I'd want to try one or more of those things first. Yeah for sure. It's also how I eliminated migraines entirely. Well not entirely, I used to get them a few times a month and now it's like once a year after lifestyle changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:31 AM
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Bro I needed them and arguably still need them lol. I was on them for a year or so, didn't like it and stopped, decided I'd rather just rawdog anxiety and panic attacks. I've done better just by staying more active and engaged and eating better. I don't remember gaining weight probably b/c of my metabolism but I remember always feeling numb to the world, like everything was just a blah shade of grey. Kind of like depression, but I wasn't depressed. I did feel more calm and less anxious and antsy…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:18 AM
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That's fucked. I didn't know they allowed people before a certain age to even use them, but I suppose I never thought about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:07 AM
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As per a tweet: SSRIs are like performance-enhancing drugs for No Nut November. In all seriousness, the problem with SSRIs from experience specifically as a guy - no longer on them - is they reduce libido but don't eliminate it entirely. That means the urge still builds up over time but slower. And when you need to release, it almost becomes something like a tedious chore, whether you're alone or with someone, and both the experience and release is much less satisfying. The entire process is man…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 02:00 AM
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There are way too many stupid people who can't grasp much less appreciate good humor beyond lowest-common-denominator shit like fart jokes to say someone with any great sense of humor would have universal appeal, and this isn't even about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 05:25 PM
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"For you, the day Bison killed your father Bison busted a giant ketchup bottle over your head at Waffle House was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:53 AM
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Everyone is different but it's still trippy to think how at the same time many of us grew up living the same life going to the same types of places.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:42 AM
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I do too, trip to Denny's at 3am to placate the munchies. One cracked-out waitress tending 12 tables of drunk or high motherfuckers. The cook clearly about to quit singing loudly in Spanish in the kitchen. They don't have Waffle House where I'm at though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:36 AM
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I talked some shit about Waffle House here and got downvoted more than all the other problematic things I've said lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:34 AM
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ohh they gonna come for u now
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:28 AM
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https://www.dexerto.com/food/waffle-house-customers-throw-drinks-and-signs-at-employees-in-massive-brawl-2575976/ One of you was involved in this shit I know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 04:15 AM
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Then all other things are not created equal which I assumed to be the case with questions like these. Obviously it changes things if the artsy unemployed guy has great dick game, is into hobbies and genres she loves and relates to, has a sense of humor she appreciates, charisma, social status, or a great connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:17 AM
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Ya I dunno, they're not really my thing and some kpop idols look straight up underage, I'm always sus of dudes over the age of 20 who still like kpop chicks. What was that one woman some guy here was fawning over, Hanni, I googled her and was like wtf from her face alone you could've told me she was in 4th grade and I would've believed you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 01:12 AM
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The fact that she's 5'11" with long legs sells it for me. Don't ever say height or body don't make a difference, for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:55 AM
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I think she's really pretty. What is your idea of pretty? Mila Kunis, Zendaya, Selena Gomez, Olivia Rodrigo, Margot Robbie, Ana de Armas etc don't really do it for me. I do like Hailee Steinfeld and Kendall Jenner though as long as I'm just concentrating on how they look and not their personalities. Also Blake Lively when she was younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 12:41 AM
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Historically maybe men have always had a track record of overestimating their worth and/or treating women poorly in relationships despite being ugly(er) than her, but in the modern era there are also additional reasons. An ugly man might be even more encouraged not to worship a beautiful SO because he's taught simping for her will only make her more likely to be repulsed or leave. He feels pressure to act like the prize. I think there have been women here who relate from time to time that they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 11:04 PM
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There isn't anything necessarily wrong with them. In a way I kinda get it. From an objective standpoint the lizard brain interprets men like this as objectively capable of providing protection and security - physically big frame, conventionally safe socially acceptable appearance and aura. One of my asian female friends, she's friggin tiny, all of her exes and her current SO look like this lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:30 PM
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Just be big white and tall pill. Don't need money, handsome face, or game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:26 PM
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My take is when women say they "gave an ugly man a chance" or "settled for an ugly man" they didn't really settle b/c 1) the guy actually isn't ugly, he just doesn't look like a Chad so women have to give a reason for why they didn't attain a Chad and 2) there were other qualities about him that you liked/needed and thought were equally or more important. It's just a way for them to make themselves sound like they are virtuous or sacrificed something.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 10:25 PM
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If you go out of your way to look for a study that retroactively supports what you want to argue so you can plug it in the middle of your shitty internet warrior post, you're going to find it. There are so many supposedly "unbiased" legitimate studies with "sound methodology", "free of conflict of interest" out there that are worthless or full of shit it's not even funny. Sad thing I've learned is that alternative or obscure news and info is even less trustworthy than mainstream shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:10 PM
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There's absolutely zero incentive for even artsy women to choose the second guy especially when you said they both have the same politics, the only reason albeit a stupid one why anyone would choose him. Why some women might not want a country boy is almost entirely political or maybe religious which are both covered. There might be some concern about finances but you covered that also, the first guy makes good money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:00 AM
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plus dude is just crazy, who knows if he's going to keep up his end of the bargain or hold to all the specifications and standards of an exhibition match.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:08 AM
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It's not bad but up against a young fighter in his prime? Only with Tyson would I still be scared. Another redditor in another sub put it well...in this exceptional case Tyson being 57 isn't old enough to not be worried lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:56 AM
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Talking about how Tyson is 57 now so Jake Paul will have it easy. Maybe if it was anybody else other than Tyson I'd agree. But he's 57 not 87 and I'd still be terrified.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:42 AM
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You really got "It's better to live in a wartorn ghetto" out of all I said lol. Not wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:26 AM
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Yeah a friend of mine a while ago said "The problem is we're meant to be in a type of constant state of pursuing basic needs" which I think about a lot. The fact that these chemicals can be released instantly so easily b/c it is so easy to fulfill our needs is the reason for numbness and dissatisfaction. Because once you can easily get all that what comes after that is a higher level of fulfillment - a sense of value and worth relative to their society and communities - an elusive goal modern li…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:49 AM
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Oh I know I missed many things lol. I was thinking there's no way I can cover all the shit that's wrong with the world today but yeah you can add helicopter parenting to the list definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:36 AM
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It's not just about you. Did it ever occur to you it's b/c everyone else is suffering from the overuse of technology? The effect is broad and hurts entire populations. The women you approach are no less victims of the convenience of dating apps, social media addiction and the internet. They are less willing to be receptive to you b/c their social skills are shit and they are more likely to suffer from anxiety, BDD, etc, they are less willing to see you as a prospective partner b/c their standard…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:31 AM
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It's a loss of social capital, or at least that's what I learned in Psych. Way back when people used to have poker nights, bowling clubs, spend actual time with friends and more involvement in their communities. The technology we have is a double-edged sword, we're meant to use it as a tool - and it's an extremely powerful convenient one - but we've come to rely on it like a crutch because it's so addictive. Our social media interactions don't replace real-time interactions and quality time but …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 02:56 AM
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LOL again with this. You can for some. Not for all or many. Detecting autism isn't remotely the same as detecting lying or covert narcissistic shittiness and manipulative personalities. You can hide anything. I have issues up the ass living rent-free in my head and everyone IRL thinks I'm completely normal and well-adjusted, including many of my closest friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 07:05 AM
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I mean there's no reason to think she wasn't just speaking in a general sense, like "He's socially progressive just like me" or whatever. But this is just Exhibit #678,398,209 supporting how you just don't know with some people. Not just in dating, but in friendships, work relationships, family and acquaintances. Everything. There are fuckheads hiding in plain sight everywhere, and unless they choose to reveal it to you you won't ever know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:54 AM
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It's weird that the blackpillers aren't always right. /s In all honesty on the right people I find all types of eyes and features have their charm. I have a small nose that I've always thought lacks character and before I was exposed to narrow conventions I naturally thought people with larger distinct noses were cool looking. It didn't affect how I saw women either in terms of who I thought was cute/hot. I compare the people I find attractive now vs back then and I view the latter as more natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:24 AM
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Half-asian and I got big feminine eyes. Asian people love it, blackpillers in the west would call them gay prey eyes. Women overall tend to like them too so I'll take them as a consolation prize to hooded squinty alpha orbs. As far as I can see though the west for better or worse exoticizes more typical Asian eyes at least for women. Things for men might be getting a bit better but it's hard to tell. "White eyes" in general aren't really prized or special here b/c well, it's mostly white here an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:20 AM
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loads of times Heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 03:56 AM
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She looks 12 bruh. Are you a teenager. I keep forgetting how many people here aren't even 21 yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 02:02 AM
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No he actually started even younger which reinforces my point. One of my best friends has the same contrast and circumstances going on with him and his brother and piano. He has long fingers, his brother doesn't, despite them both having similar body types overall and both being pianists.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:48 AM
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I dunno if that has anything to do with it. I was classically trained and I have the long delicate pianist fingers but my brother's fingers are a lot stubbier despite having trained for the exact same amount of time. He has the Chad body and wide jaw to make up for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:39 AM
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A lot of women like to say they can sniff out misogyny while giving excuses for their bad decisions by saying a lot of shitty men act nice as I said which is hilarious. In your case, you somehow think these random ass men trademarked "nice guys" complaining about women are the poster boys of misogyny and fail to mention the other types who aren't only misogynistic but also cause severe physical and psychological harm and trauma to women. These are actually the men who lie, manipulate, rape, comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:23 AM
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Yeah lol google says average in america is 10.5
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 01:02 AM
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Which means you can't sniff out their trash personas. Wifebeaters, narcissists, sociopaths, and arrogant manipulative men in the context of a relationship are not nice no matter how nice they act and you can bet your ass they disrespect and look down on women. It's funny but not surprising your tone ultimately still defends these men as not as bad or misogynistic. Again I know, it's convenient to your narrative to just focus on how terrible the mediocre sexually unsuccessful men complaining abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:27 AM
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They can be. They can also be...oh I don't know, the aggressive loudmouths, sociopaths, narcissists and alcoholic beat-the-shit-out-of-you guys. However, you'd be hard-pressed to find many men in these groups struggling to find interested women. Many women find it comforting to separate the type you mentioned - disgruntled "nice" guy - from the rest; it's convenient to associate misogyny with these garden variety soft mediocre whatever men they innately find repulsive when justifying their prefe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:36 PM
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Yet at the same time women will say they can sense shitty men so that's why guys who struggle with women just need to stop being toxic. "We can smell your misogyny" and "Women don't choose abusive men knowingly" are two sentences the same women say in different conversations when it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:18 PM
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He's obviously just trolling at this point so who knows or cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:27 AM
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A lot of women and people constantly battle physically and psychologically with their weight so even if from an absolute standpoint it's not as immutable as height the struggle is bad enough that what I said is still relevant. Ofc if you asked me would I rather be fat or short, I would rather be fat. I can lose the weight, but I'm also not in the shoes of these fat people or what they are going through. Every woman wants to be thin but somehow most aren't, so that tells you something about how i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:24 AM
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I mean he either won't answer or he's going to lie. Or something to make it sound more believable or modest like "I used to be 27 BMI but after a lot of hard work I've made it down to 25, hoping for the best and striving for more progress."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:31 AM
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It's weird we make fun of fat ugly women or short ugly men for being mean or bitter. People overlook, mistreat, and talk down to these people their entire lives and we're surprised and indignant they have a few complexes. Why wouldn't a 5'3" man have a bone to pick with the world? Inb4 "I dated a guy who was 5'2" for years and I loved my short king." "My 5 foot friend is doing just fine and everyone loves him." With fat people it can also go the other way, we see the shitshow personalities and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:17 AM
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There are also no women (Stacys, I guess) who are universally attractive - to that degree - to men. Men are just much more likely to fuck anyone, so the chances of him saying no to any woman rated largely as over a 6 are slim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:10 AM
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What's the point of everyone demanding to know his BMI, there's nothing stopping him from lying anyway nor is it verifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 04:08 AM
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Right, but what I mean is you'd think more of these people would be considering these pills. Also statistically the less overweight people are more likely to have the means to pay for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:35 PM
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Oh it's fucking infuriating when you read about the enablers and people are sounding super distraught and upset for their 600 pound family member like maybe stop bringing home bags of cookies and ice cream every morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:31 PM
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But wouldn't it be popular for people who are just trying to lose those last stubborn 20-30 lbs? There are plenty of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:30 PM
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We're just going around in circles then. I tell you what I observe, you say "well those are just the lucky people." Ignoring the fact that I am around all types of people from all walks of life. I'm not only around goodlooking people, I'm not only around rich people or those with means and resources, I'm not only around people who display great social skills and extroversion. In the end we only have our experiences to go off and hopefully critical thinking. Oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:40 AM
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I think the idea is that she keeps getting used, even if unconsciously or unintentionally, as a placeholder until the men she's dating find the women they actually want to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:57 PM
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This is how you sound. The problem is real. So much that the West brings migrants to stop the decline of the population. This was your response. Do you know what an analogy is? Please identify the analogy in this response and explain it to me lmaoo.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 11:22 PM
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OnLy ThE RiCh ArE DaTiNg And that's how you sound. What level of delusion are you to not be aware the poor are the ones having the most kids out of everyone? Or that everyone I am around is rich? Been to Walmart, Target, or any other random ass grocery outlet or dept store lately? Don't see any couples there? Every guy in a couple is a Chad? Lol ok
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:56 PM
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cool
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:43 AM
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Assuming OP is the creator of the video, he talks about dating in general and not just OLD, that's why he says "not to mention the online apps" because by default he's speaking from either an IRL or general context.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:26 AM
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humans who are midwits You flatter them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:25 AM
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Are these the types of conversations only amongst the terminally online? Almost everyone I know IRL is in a relationship or situationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:08 AM
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You can tell with some men but not all men. Let's assume you have this superpower of 100% accuracy. That doesn't change the fact there are tons of women who suck at it....you know, like the women you say "I told you so" to. Many women can't b/c it's not obvious, maybe they lack social intelligence, and there are people very good at hiding it - although honestly it's not that hard to act like a 'normie'. This extends beyond the realm of dating. The worst most toxic people often don't make it appa…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:00 AM
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Well except what I'm saying also applies to just all people. It doesn't matter if you find them sexually attractive or not, I'm a straight guy and it's no more obvious if a guy is a bad person if he's remotely good at hiding it. I would say the person I hate the most in this world was a friend who preyed on my struggles in my teen years with manipulation and an utterly toxic crabs-in-a-bucket demeanor. Everything was great up to many years into the friendship. Like I said, I have many conflictin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:40 PM
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Lol if frickin only. If all shitty people were stupid and wore their shittiness on their sleeve you wouldn't have half the interpersonal problems and issues with abuse and manipulation and mental illness you see today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:16 PM
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Then you've interacted with some very stupid, socially incompetent misogynists. Unfortunately not all shitty men are stupid and socially inept.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:14 PM
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You can for some men, not for all men. And your miss rate is significant enough you have armies of women saying their men turned out to be assholes after they have already invested plenty in the relationship or gotten married even. There are few people aside from the actual mentally ill who like assholes, but it's never that cut and dry. For many women, asshole behavior is interpreted as having confidence, being ambitious and either socially or physically dominant. For those who consciously know…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 11:08 PM
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I'm sure there are some women who are turned off by misogyny even though for many it's not a dealbreaker if he has other qualities she prioritizes. Even so, many if not most men who struggle with dating aren't struggling b/c they wear misogyny on their sleeve. And whatever women on here say, no, they can't sniff out misogyny or sense that a guy holds toxic manosphere-esque ideals reliably a lot of the time. Evidence being women in the same spaces talking about how they weren't aware he was an as…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:45 PM
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Heh. You wouldn't think it if you spend a lot of time here. It's constantly "Ew dirty old men" "Men age worse than women akchually" "Ew age gap relationships" "Men peak at 20" I get a lot of these are femcels or older women with revenge fantasies or women who have traumatic pasts with creepy old dudes but I'm not sure where you get the idea women would be embarrassed lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:29 PM
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You spend enough time online you think everyone is polarized and heavily invested in their political beliefs. IRL most of us are just a bunch of assholes trying to live; politics may hold some significance in their daily lives and conversations but it's not their entire identity like the outspoken people you'll see on forums, reddit et al.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 10:03 PM
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I saw a group of women ( probably friends) who were getting along very well and I couldn't ignore the amount of emotional and physical connection they have, I heard the word " love you " used more times than in a hetero ROMANTIC movie . I mean anyone who has touched grass for more than a day knows this is all for show. Women post pictures of themselves hugging and kissing each other and leave comments like "y r u so hawt' 'okayy' 'i'm obsessed with u' to keep up appearances. Plenty of female fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 09:42 PM
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It's...not nearly as bad as I was expecting lol. Most of the women were actually dressed very conservatively esp for mardi gras.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:29 AM
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It's probably genetic or something due to having much less collagen than average. Most 30 year olds who never take care of their skin and have poor hydration don't look nearly as old as that and I'm guessing she's not big on tanning. She also looks overweight too which is all the more perplexing as extra weight usually makes your face less saggy and more full looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:25 AM
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That's why it's hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:48 PM
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Just needs to be less tight and more natural. You look really friendly in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:47 PM
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You look good, but why do you have the tight-lipped white person smile when you pass a stranger on the street loll
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:40 PM
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I had a friend who was given a dick pic as a last resort when she kept saying she wasn't interested and he said "Well....how about a dick pic then." Like the conversation is going terrible and the guy just threw a Hail Mary "Fuck it, here goes nothing." Ideally he imagines ok she's been feeling nothing but icks but then sees the dick and is like "Oh shit. Hmm."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:36 PM
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It's like how it is with looks. Normie conventional women have the most universal appeal on average and weirdos overall do less well, but the most striking and unforgettable women are weirdos b/c they are weird in the most attractive ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:33 PM
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I think its because they are technically considered less attractive than guys less good looking but taller and more athletic. They're like a tier below tall guys on the desirability scale That's why I say the taller but still decent looking guy would win out for women on the whole. There are cases like yourself b/c out of pragmatism you would take the shorter guy. Your body will be fine once it reaches healthy status (19-21 BMI) /s In all seriousness I can't with this sub lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:26 PM
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Okay but 5'11" is still tall for you. So it makes sense. You just aren't one of those short girls with a huge complex and need men to be 6 feet plus or else. Also the 6'3" guy is still goodlooking. A 7, so not just above average but comfortably so and a conventional looker.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:16 PM
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You should be using a 8/10 5'7" guy instead From my observations the 7/10 6'3" guy would win easily, and honestly despite the answers here I think he would beat out the 8/10 5'11" guy too. Women give priority and reflexive notice to the tallest guy. If he's decent looking, which as a 7 he is, he's set. The difference in facial attractiveness is minimal when you take into account his extra height and frame which is part of looks anyway unless he's really fat or a beanpole. If the tall dude is onl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 06:54 PM
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He isn't even attracted to other men He’s tried giving friends blowjobs, tried anal sex a few times What
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 05:25 AM
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https://health.osu.edu/wellness/aging/does-metabolism-really-slow-down-with-age#:~:text=For%20years%2C%20the%20assumption%20has,reach%20the%20age%20of%2060. I don't know if I have high metabolism privilege or whatever but I've always felt....even conventionally speaking it's known your metabolism goes down by like up to 500 calories over several decades. That means at like 60 you may need to cut down on like a couple cookies or a large slice of pizza that you carelessly downed at 20. It just tel…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 11:33 PM
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I suppose it's hard, as a guy maybe, to imagine how someone could be objectively high on the looks scale while being an ick or sexual turnoff at the same time. At most it's high on the scale but not really my type/thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:38 PM
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Women also largely as a group think he's a 7+. That's what I mean, some women are talking about how men are clueless about what catches a woman's eye but really we have the same scale and standards given the same culture or environment...the only difference is women probably need more than a picture to feel sufficiently and viscerally attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:55 PM
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The quoted comment in the OP is mine. It's true women probably differentiate objective looks from personal attraction more than men, but men do it too. Angelina Jolie and Margot Robbie are two women I can see are objectively "goodlooking", but they don't inspire anything visceral in me. But still, I wouldn't say disparaging things about them or say "They look mean. Why does she have a weird expression on her face?/Nah they aren't attractive to me". I'd say "They are very beautiful but they don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:02 AM
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I can only speak for myself and what I've seen, but isn't it usually the woman who has more particular preferences in her lifestyle and routine? At least for me and I assume many other men it doesn't matter too much what we are doing specifically we're ok with whatever. Isn't it a thing where a couple has a day off and the guy just wants to lounge around and chill and the woman wants an entire day plan? Women do carry a lot of emotional labor but there are times when that labor was not necessari…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:08 AM
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Yeah but if you're a woman with options there are plenty of taller, richer men with better bodies and status around here. I realize a lot of it is pathological for me, the pandemic made things a lot worse b/c I had more time alone with my thoughts. A little caution is good but I got too deep into the shitty manosphere stuff in my leisure lol. I was already kind of an anxious on-edge guy before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:07 PM
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That's honestly mind blowing and again reminds me how different people's environments are even within the same country. For I want to say my entire adult life and much of my formative years it's been nothing but liberal ideology(s) blasting into my ear.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:35 AM
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What drug-fueled bullshit is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:28 AM
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Makes sense, I just feel like since the current political zeitgeist leans left and progressive you wouldn't be able to spend a few minutes online or exposed to any media for that matter without running into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:23 AM
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How is that possible. Reddit itself here is literally chock full of left-leaning men. Go to the politics sub. You wouldn't be able to get away from them if you tried.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:19 AM
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How is she right if you say men try harder than women and she says men do a bad job or aren't interested in making an effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:18 AM
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You've never seen male liberals? Do you live in a rural area in a deep red state? Assuming you're in the US. Sometimes I forget just how completely different another poster's environment is on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 09:14 AM
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Enjoy the food, the company, the woman. Hope for the best, and if you don't get it just be glad it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:27 AM
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Yeah that's why I am really learning/understanding why some women actually might be serious when they say they don't prefer a top-tier man long term. Just the sheer and constant pressure and paranoia, you can't escape it even if you genuinely believe she is a wonderful person b/c humans are flawed and fallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:22 AM
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I've been told by friends good face shit height (5'10) shit body (130 lbs) shit mental health (OCD, ADHD, anxiety/panic disorder, depression). If it's a woman with many options I don't even know how to deal with it. The few times I went out with a really attractive woman I ended up self-sabotaging. I would be constantly stressed that she'll find someone else or keep looking. I told my friends this and they bluntly told me I wasn't ready or man enough for her anyway thinking like that. I suppose …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:14 AM
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That's why I have trust issues. I've been approached by women which is surprising already, but there's no way these women also are not approaching other guys or constantly looking for bigger better options. It's hard to take anything long term seriously bc I feel I'm either a placeholder or they will branch swing shortly. I've gotten to the point where I assume or at least suspect any woman interested in me is desperate, bored, mentally ill or trying to get revenge on someone. I may need therapy…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:59 AM
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At the pool track or gym day in day out I see the same mediocre soft bodies come in and do the same thing, and these are the minority of people who are actually trying. Like what you're doing is obviously not working, change it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:27 AM
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There have been a lot of dumbass men here lately. Like even more than usual. I normally think the stupid women are worse but not this week.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:25 AM
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Living rent-free in my head is that one comment yesterday from that guy that was like "Everyone's BMI is getting higher b/c women are getting super fat but men are lifting" x)x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:23 AM
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My point is that there is probably something else going on for why you can't get more attractive women because you come across as weird and your personality is probably lacking. But I don't expect you to agree, it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:34 AM
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You come across as someone who is upset that you can't get more attractive women. You don't sound satisfied. That's a dating trouble or woe.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:09 AM
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Bro I'm not actually trying to insult you and I don't know what dating troubles you have but I can tell right away from your profile you probably come across as weird to people and probably women. First of all why do you have your height in your Reddit profile? And why would you word it that way? Just sayin. If you're a doctor, unless you were cursed with very unlucky genetics I can't see you having trouble with women if you're fit, groomed, and have good social skills and I'm guessing the latte…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:57 AM
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I hope you're not in psychiatry and if you are I hope you don't jump to conclusions as quickly with your clients.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 03:06 AM
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But here you were in another comment saying if you're a 5, at best if you're rich you can only get the attention of a 6. So a 6 is a big deal now? My point is if OP, like all other women, think looks are #1, why would she be okay with being with a 6? ESPECIALLY if she is also above average and the modern dating dynamic forces men to date down as they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:49 AM
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Google any top-tier woman. These women have their pick of men. Then check who their spouses are. The spouses are rarely on their level lookswise. Again, never said looks aren't important. What I said was, as per the OP, men lean on their money because their money makes them more attractive to women. If these men are short, or look weird, or have other disadvantages, all the more reason to do so. Don't come at me with this "oh but if they're really old and ugly though their money won't be enough.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:47 AM
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LOL. Looks are #1 to all women yet the woman OP you are responding to is with someone she originally considered a 6. Me thinks there were other things about him that sealed the deal. Make your bullshit make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:39 AM
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No old ugly billionaires are famous sex symbols - a category literally defined solely by physical traits - therefore I'm wrong. LOL Looks are #1, that's why Beyonce, a top-tier woman who can have armies of 10/10 models at her door at any time, is still with Jay-Z, a cheater at that. There are countless examples of top-tier women who can have any man they want, and the men they choose aren't model-tier. I know the idea that looks aren't #1 is hard for your blackpilled mind to grasp. Let's be hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:31 AM
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When did I say looks aren't important? The point is money and perception of power/resources increase a man's attractiveness, which is why men flaunt or "lean on it" especially if they lack in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:22 AM
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So what I'm saying is a lot of women - maybe not you - don't parse it consciously like that. She sees a powerful well connected man, she feels attracted, she's not going to be like "Well if it's just for one night I dunno b/c he's not that tall or handsome." She might reason to herself that it could be much more than that in the same way a lot of men have the confidence of a 10 when approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 02:03 AM
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If it was this cut and dry you wouldn't hear a lot of women say "I became more attracted to my bf/husband the more I got to know him even though I wasn't really attracted at first. Now he's the hottest guy in the world to me literally." Some of these women might be lying, some might be embellishing, but I hear it so often there is probably some truth to it. Looks is the first thing you see so if you ask a woman to assess immediately ofc it will just be based on looks. But most women desire a mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:57 AM
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You're using an extreme example of age gap which makes the scenario less likely. But ultimately many women don't separate a man's money from the rest of him when they unconsciously assess him. There are plenty of instances where the woman sleeps with the guy with very limited hope of relationship forming out of delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:49 AM
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Because having resources makes a man more attractive, even sexually attractive, at any age. It's a literal turn-on for many women, there is a lot of gray area when assessing a man, and it's not always a detached logical "at least he has money even if he's old and ugly" thing. In many cases you can't separate the way women see a man's money from the way she views how powerful and resourceful he is and his social proof. It's also not that relevant that women may consciously know it's just a ONS w/…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:43 AM
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There's a lot of clueless unsuccessful bluepillers out there who definitely aren't that way b/c they are sheltered or padded by success or privilege. Some people are just more likely to follow the herd or lack critical thinking. Hence the groups of people who criticize the incels or lookists and say looks don't matter, just shower and touch grass, but look like gamer goblins. Not defending incels either, fuck them too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:10 PM
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Learning how to carry on conversation and read social cues isn't advice only for extroverts. It's a life skill everyone needs even if it may come easier for extroverts. Even many if not most introverts, while requiring time alone to recharge, have people they enjoy being social and interactive with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 08:07 PM
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The twist is that these are more likely the people to criticize incels (like the inceltear sub) and the incel meetup will "look better" b/c they are the ones more likely to spend time obsessing over their looks. Also makes sense that people most likely to ridicule ideas of lookism are going to care less about their own looks as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 05:49 AM
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There are very few women this side of 40 preferring to stay single. It's clearly visible and obvious. That's going to be my default response to all of these types of threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:07 PM
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To be fair, in a different way and context, it can take a lot for some guy friends to open up about their feelings, but obviously this is a different dynamic, and they don't throw out the "why don't you ever communicate better" bullshit. It's not healthy either though, I've lost male friends b/c they didn't say shit and things were eating at them and then it just blew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:31 PM
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Me: Well I'm sorry, but why didn't you tell me this was bothering you? Her: I shouldn't have to say it, you should just know and pick up on these things. Also her multiple times in the past: Guys are so bad at communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:22 PM
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Men use porn to get off. The analogy isn't perfect here but a lot of women whether they admit it or not see the appeal in men spending a lot of money on them but wouldn't want the men they care about in their lives, their brothers, sons, friends etc. to be used in the same way or as an asexual wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:38 AM
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I might just have an untrained ear for rural accents. They all kind of sound similar to me even if I know there are going to be differences from region to region.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:37 AM
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Yeah I've noticed when people use generalizations to describe different regions they are describing more of the culture and life in the big(ger) cities. At least from what I've seen there is kind of more of a uniformity in America's smaller towns; something as superficial as a rural accent...you often see attributed to the southern states but it also seems strangely present and similar in rural areas in the west, midwest and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:13 AM
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When was the last time you found a pro-athlete or genius very attractive facewise compared to attractive people in the general population? From my own personal experiences I've at one point or another found many different types of features attractive so I'm more likely to think there is a huge environmental and social component. Re: the Fisherian runway this is probably more common in animals since in humans the most masculine dimorphic looking men are not necessarily the most preferred by women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:07 AM
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You're so fat when your beeper goes off people think you're backing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:26 PM
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I haven't been to the east coast since I was a kid. I guess I was referring more to the general overall culture of the people, social and work norms, lifestyle and such. The overall long-held belief ofc is life in the west moves a lot slower and isn't as fast paced hustle culture-esque, but I'm finding as time goes by it's all merging together.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 10:07 PM
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Aside from actual deformities and innate genetic disorders, facial attractiveness or lack thereof doesn't actually convey evolutionary health or fitness. My guess is we are programmed to be attracted more to healthy skin, symmetry, thick hair, etc because the polar opposite, extreme asymmetry, bad skin and hair, deformed features means something is wrong. But a 9/10 is not any more likely to be genetically "better" than a 5 or 6. It's true when you google people in the world historically or in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:56 PM
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like California vs NY, or US vs Asia lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 09:49 PM
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Just curious, aside from traditional gender-assigned tasks like cooking or meal preparation, what is it that boomer men are unable to do to take care of themselves should they hypothetically suddenly find themselves without a woman in old age?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:48 AM
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https://i.imgflip.com/8gyl6x.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 12:48 AM
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Reminds me of a joke (I think it was Chris Rock?) where your gf catches you cheating and you think the worst is when she dumps you, but it's really after she goes "nonono....let's try to work this out." x) I would never cheat but honestly if I ever got caught I would just immediately decide to dump myself out of the fears you mentioned lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:15 PM
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I'm glad there's another post on this topic. Truly a mystery, I don't know if we will ever find the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 10:40 PM
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Re: cheating that's b/c people think they can work things out and recover from it. Then comes a lot of trying and realizing it's harder to recover from than expected, and then eventually realizing they won't ever recover from it. Even if people technically for legal or logistical reasons decide to stay together things are permanently damaged, they won't ever feel entirely fulfilled again with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 09:40 PM
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The saddest part of many breakups from LTR is that one or both parties have been in conflict or unhappy for a LONG time, several months to several years. Nobody just feels like things aren't working and then initiates a separation from someone they've invested heavily in timewise, emotion-wise, resource-wise etc. They've likely complained, nagged, had multiple long conversations, agreed on steps or plans to improve things, and then proceeded to fail repeatedly or get little to no results regardl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:05 PM
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The same way a lot of women are looking for a wallet or provider. Not sure which group is worse or more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:58 PM
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I don't get it. I literally just said it's not so much defending the bad people as it is turning a blind eye or ignoring it. I'm sure there are women who defend or downplay female predators but I don't have examples offhand? For all this 'patriarchy hurts everyone' feminists spout, how much noise is focused on bad male behavior and how much is spent on bad female behavior or how men suffer? The best is those articles about how "false accusations are bad" but then you read and it's like "They're …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:42 PM
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Not if it runs counter to their narrative or sociopolitical axe. Honestly I wish what you're saying is true, but it's not which is why everyone is so angry and at each other's throats.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:26 PM
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I didn't say most women defend female predators...I said their criticism is muted, mild(er) or won't come out unless they have a reason to defend themselves or justify their beliefs. People are just not motivated to criticize their own in whatever identity politik-based competition they're in. Outspoken feminists focus on bad male behavior and largely ignore bad female behavior for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:22 PM
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I didn't say they were the same. But you're right it's a different level. I was more responding to how you said even the good men aren't good enough. A lot of these good men won't defend rapists but they don't necessarily speak up about them either for the reasons I described. The men defending Danny Masterson are just straight up bad men, there's no ambiguity there. Good for you for condemning female predators proactively, you're in the minority. Many if not most women won't. If you ask them th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 07:07 PM
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Well they don't say "the easiest way to break up with someone or sour a friendship is to move in with them" for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:58 PM
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It's a tale as old as time because people are invested in their sociopolitical identities. At the very least people are less likely to speak up whenever a member of their own group does something shitty. They may not "approve" of it but they also won't say anything or voice criticism b/c it doesn't benefit (or it hurts) their movement to do so. The same way many feminists won't criticize the man-haters or just stay silent, but when called out on it they'll say "oh those aren't real feminists" or…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:54 PM
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I kinda get that...keeping finances and living spaces separate is becoming popular. I'm feeling that more and more as well b/c I straight up don't trust people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:51 PM
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I think it's becoming increasingly appealing maybe for both men and women to keep their living spaces and finances separate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:50 PM
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just trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:38 PM
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As a woman, what is it about men (or older men) that makes them worth dating but not living with? I feel like it would be the reverse with this narrative...men are trash so live with them and use them for financial or provisional reasons but they aren't worth the romance. Edit: LOL downvotes, rly I say so much fucked up shit on here and the most harmless comments are the ones who trigger people x)x) Maybe I should say Waffle House is for trashy people again to rustle more jimmies which speaks vo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:17 PM
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Dude looks like fuckin Henry Cavill and does not have a recessed maxilla anyway. Like I said, it's just incels obsessing over stupid shit and seeing things that are not there. The guy in the picture likely has body dysmorphia and thinks his maxilla is recessed b/c it's not 10 cm farther out from his nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:02 PM
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I want to say more than half of people - and this might still be a huge understatement - who spend a lot of time online are mentally fucked. So yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:51 PM
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Basically lack of forward growth or a mouth area that looks like it's just too small and backward, exacerbating nasiolabial folds...which...unless it's really bad...actually just looks fine and normal. Incels and looksmaxxing autists fixate on individual traits and think a super forward grown square jaw is goat.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:50 PM
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She could've been a solid 8 despite her full-faced beard but her interpupillary distance and recessed maxilla brought her down to a 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:44 PM
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Absolutely. I don't get this bullshit of "women are happy staying single now b/c of trash men." LOL where? Unless the woman is over 45 or 50 (and even then?) most women are consistently in relationships or temporarily in between relationships save the occasional casual phases. Perhaps these types of women with major issues or exceptional situations are just overrepresented online. I literally thought of an exception the other day of a girl I work with who is single b/c she was lamenting about be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 05:41 PM
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I mean, I don't really see people reflexively telling women they are being illogical just b/c they are women unless their behavior is actually viewed as the result of faulty logic. Perhaps in some decisions with more nuance and where surrounding context isn't as clear I could maybe see men being given more benefit of the doubt depending on the situation, but not always. There are social mechanisms and norms in place in some circumstances that also assume the validity of the opinions and actions …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:43 PM
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My point ultimately is that the OP doesn't really say anything meaningful. Just because there is technically a reason or thought process behind every decision, emotion and action doesn't mean it's not foolish, silly, or due to a variety of factors not excluding mental instability, illness, deep-seated issues and trauma, and so on. So for purely exemplary purposes, dumping an otherwise perfect man for a minor flaw can involve reasoning and a train of thought. That doesn't mean it's not stupid or …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 10:18 PM
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You are technically being "rational" if you dump a rich charismatic goodlooking guy b/c you don't like the subtle way he chews b/c the chewing cognitively repulses you more than you can stand. You are also either very stupid and/or have problems upstairs to be at the point where you can't deal with a trait like that in the face of all his other qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:25 PM
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I agree it's fucking awful. There are a few twitch streamers my friends like and I can't stand watching alongside them for more than a minute. I can't describe these voices with words except maybe that they are the most punchable voices I've ever heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:01 PM
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I guess I never got the memo about not complaining. I'm complaining and bitching constantly online and offline. It's for the most part benefitted me IRL, obviously not so much here lol. I think men are rewarded for being vocal or aggressive about their grievances tbh. I feel like I do it in direct and honest ways though...I don't do shit like smile at people and then go write self-important yelp reviews or call customer service or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:56 PM
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I think men are fairly good about keeping the RP lingo they may come across or acquire online out of their daily vernacular and interactions. Honestly it's not that hard despite people saying it's not 100% possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:10 PM
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Several times higher, so you're suggesting 25% minimum? I'm not necessarily saying you are way off since I am not really educated on this topic, but do you have evidence or studies to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:35 PM
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Ironically it's the low-class incel basement dweller people who think those traits are so good. Maybe cheekbones to an extent but I don't see any of those other traits really getting traction even among "mainstream normie" or preppy women. I think maybe a square jaw is good on men but it's not fetishized or doesn't need to be gigachad for women to appreciate it. A lot of women actually seem actively repulsed by hunter eyes, and a long midface is just, I dunno, not looking like a child. The only …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:11 AM
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From what I've read the percentage of false accusations is similar to the percentage of false accusations for other crimes, which is in the range of 10%. There is a lot more social baggage, controversy, and gray area with this issue so framed as such 10% honestly seems like a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:36 AM
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I never understood how people get addicted to porn or masturbation. For many men, after you cum there's no primal urge anymore to seek satisfaction. You can keep going in order to satisfy a partner but that's different. I would just assume that's the default and norm. I guess some people have more addictive personalities or different brain chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:49 AM
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Honest question for smart science people. So is the urge to masturbate/ejaculate for men not a thing then? A man doesn't necessarily need another person there but sexual relief reduces stress, makes him relaxed again, more focused and at ease. There are times where if I don't bust a nut - driven by an actual tension-based feedback loop in the organs and/or psychological buildup - I can't think about anything else really. I'm also not addicted to sex, sexual thoughts, or porn. Once it's done it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:41 AM
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There are many people who are shitty on the inside but it's not readily apparent, and they qualify as assholes. But what we normally think of when we think of the word asshole is someone who is aggressively arrogant, demanding, with inappropriate disrespecful behavior, and honestly these guys are rarely struggling with women b/c their baseline extroversion and proactive approach usually guarantees at least some women will give them a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 04:02 AM
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Why do we keep getting disingenuous (or just absolutely clueless?) questions like this. It's clear as day the men you are referring to who don't like women dislike women b/c they want women to like them but they don't or perceive they don't and/or struggle with women. Waste of thread space, waste of time, come on. You think these men aren't justified in feeling this way fine but why act like you don't know why lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:33 PM
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What type of dessert though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:31 PM
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I can name several examples in my circles of women repeatedly going back to shitty men but almost none of the reverse. Never thought about why though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:53 PM
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Blackpill took over a lot of it, a lot of RP these days is just blackpill in RP clothing. You have these dating or mentoring channels with episodes on mewing and shit lol. It's crazy how blackpill trash has seeped into other categories and aspects of online life. I've even seen mewing episodes on some generic self-help or style/makeup channels.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:50 PM
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Just saying this to a stranger idc if you're bored at your point in life there are MANY better or more fitting places to waste your time. We're talking even objectively worthless or vapid places like TikTok or the TikTok sub. PPD is just going to jade you and fuck up your perceptions and biases bc/while your slate is fairly blank. You're going to look back and wonder wtf you were thinking and doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:36 PM
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LOL I never said anyone here was normal or well-adjusted, just not as bad as being insane and excessively mean-spirited. Talkin about well adjusted you're like 15, there isn't enough therapy in the world to fix the baggage on PPD and you're already on it 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:28 PM
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If she's a regular poster on twox that's not a good sign, even if as the world stands it's easier growing up as a woman in the postmodern west. A regular poster on twox is probably batshit insane. A regular PPD user is just a socially awkward weirdo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:23 PM
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Women: 'brb gonna fuck 50 ugly men to bring my n count back to zero"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:21 PM
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PPD son. Most things assumed equal, you take a man who spends a lot of time on a shitty sub and a woman who does the same, the woman is going to be more messed up. There are simply more men in sheer number on shitty subs and the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:14 PM
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With obvious exceptions, online spaces including Reddit and this sub attract a wide demographic of men and a narrower demographic of the weirdest women. It is a matter of degree though, the pool of men is bigger and more diverse but still leans toward the divergent and strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:02 PM
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Just can't get past the multi-pronged hypocrisy of being so socially and politically involved with how we raise girls, surgically and hyperfocusing on the messages we send them indirectly and directly, but with boys b/c it's convenient to the argument and feefees it's like "HoW DiD u NoT KnOw ThAt?"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:35 PM
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Inb4 resident PPD women be like "If you got eyes and ears and half a brain you know you need looks and dark triad it's not on us or society to tell you" x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:45 PM
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Alright but some women would do this too. They are just less likely to admit it. The bad boy trope exists for a reason. Maybe some women tell themselves he's not necessarily unambiguously bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:13 AM
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The one that got away eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 06:07 AM
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More than half Gen Z say their ideal relationship isnt monogamous. Do you have a source for this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:43 AM
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Okay can you give me some examples of guys here who say they just want 10s? Can't be that hard to find since you say it happens all the time. I'll settle for 3 in the past week, which is still nothing but hey. Also the guy you were responding to never said these guys don't exist or that you are projecting? Are you following this ok? He implied it's irrelevant bc the percentage of men who say this is so low.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:11 AM
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I don't think anyone here is a shallow dim-witted whore even though I'm sure they exist. My primary complaints with the people here, and basically Reddit, is more that they are cognitively slow or stupid - ok fine dimwitted, disingenuous bc they just want to vent and be right, mentally ill, or lack life experience but feel like their opinion is worth something anyway. So not much better I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 05:08 AM
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a bunch of guys who think they are all shallow, dim witted whores. Hey, we never said dim witted. Heh. heheha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:58 AM
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"Many", "most", enough that it's basically the norm and conventional opinion of the men here. If that's not sufficient I'd say it's clear you're just reaching to win an internet argument. As far as I can tell the guy you were responding to was saying that since it's just one guy (and probably not much more than that) there's no relevance or real implication, which I agree with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:50 AM
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If you were to be completely honest what is the general impression you get from men on this sub? B/c I read many guys every day here who say they just need someone they find cute and loyal. I can't imagine a guy saying they only want and require 10s without obviously being a troll or unanimously dismissed. Meanwhile, there is no shortage of women here who lean into if not gloat for the fact that women naturally gravitate toward only the top percentage of any population of men. "Blame nature" "It…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:31 AM
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The ones I see at a glance intermittently look very trashy. I think they were Fresh and Fit podcasts or something. I do not watch a lot of videos, most RP stuff I've heard is from reading. Also these women are paid by RP grifters anyway to appear on their show or on camera, which for better or worse is not reflective of what the run-of-the-mill men who follow RP are pulling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:41 AM
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Preselection. The most legit concept ever pushed/discussed thoroughly by RPers. Although they didn't discover it ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:40 AM
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Yeah RP men wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:37 AM
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I have this weird potential attachment to men who remind me of my dad despite being sexually straight. There's something about stoic masculine-coded guys that draws me in and makes me want to interact with them, see how they tick etc. It might be b/c my own dad (I love him, he's amazing in his own ways, he has just never been very interactive, expressive, or open) is someone I subconsciously want to connect with on a more emotional level. It also might be b/c I see similarities between these guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:40 PM
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Who's blaming anyone? I'm literally just continuing your train of thought. You said Well, “be more attractive and fun to be around” isn’t going to change anything, is it? Are you ok? Also I'm not RP. Just a fan of logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:37 PM
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Lol. How would it not change anything? It would motivate the guy to improve his looks and charisma (or at least try to) instead of staying complacent or clueless as to why he's struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:32 PM
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I would say it's not necessarily a red flag if women dislike other women with the traits of "pick mes". I would say it's a red flag if people use terms IRL on a regular basis like the actual word "pick me", or "Chad" or "Stacy" or "redpill" or "looksmax" or "glow up" because it shows high likelihood they are socially stunted and spend a lot of time online in these gender pilled spaces. There's also a big difference between knowing these terms from online experience and actually using them IRL. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 10:23 PM
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The amount of women who couldn't get a man (no Chad guarantee obvs) no matter how hard they tried is extremely low. Which means a good percentage of single women are voluntarily so. No matter how you look at it the numbers are small. I don't know what this bullshit is about how half of all women are going to be single by 2030 or whatever. I don't even believe the current estimate of 42%. Maybe I just live in an area where everyone is coupled up, lol. Single women seem rare af regardless of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:50 PM
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This again. I think many men don't have as much of a problem accepting things aren't fair in life, but more that they are just sick of being gaslit by society by being told their dating struggles are by default the result of something they aren't doing right. "Be kind, be more considerate, get a better job, change up your haircut". Meanwhile for women it's "men just don't know your worth, their loss, every woman is a 10"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:55 PM
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The fantasies movies sell reflect the fantasies sold IRL. Other examples include the typical components of the American dream, or in a more modern sense, films depicting women who "have it all", including a flourishing career and a successful home life. All very standard commonly upheld BP fare. Again I can guarantee you most BP men would not be content if they consciously believed the best they could get was a woman below their looksmatch as the norm; since they DON'T think that, they don't hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:45 PM
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Yeah no. BP definitely guarantees you "success" in dating with a woman you're attracted to and like as long as you are responsible, have a "good" personality, all your other shit together relatively and so on. There's absolutely no way it's conventional wisdom that average men can expect below average women as a general rule otherwise there would be way more discourse about it in the mainstream. The men who complain about this wouldn't automatically be labeled outliers or incels. If anything, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:29 PM
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Right. But it takes a shit-ton to get there, and also a shit-ton to maintain it. If they ever felt like they needed to lose the pounds it would just be natural and super easy just to put the fork down...like maybe 5 big meals a day instead of 8.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:23 AM
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Like how is a guy who's 6'8" 100 lbs overweight. Is he just literally eating nonstop? Honestly seems like it'd actually be extremely easy NOT to do that b/c it is annoying and burdensome.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:09 AM
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That's how much they were eating when they were active teenagers...considering they are less active and older, it still doesn't make sense that it can be that much of a contrast now we're talking like a 100 lb difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:01 AM
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How do super tall people get fat? I know a few guys from school who are now overweight and are like 6'7 - 6'10". I'm sure in h/s or college they had to eat ungodly amounts of food just to maintain their stick figures - so it's not like obesity ran in their genes. Even considering they are less active now with a slower metabolism it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:56 PM
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Somewhat fair lol. But the underlying assumption is these traits are static.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:27 PM
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You know what I agree. I just couldn't find a better single word at the time. Just something about how you come across, something broad and overarching that goes well beyond the specific things you do and say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:13 PM
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For what it's worth, "Just treat them like humans" definitely helped me in many ways in terms of interacting with girls/women when I was still like 17-18. When you're growing up interactions with the opp sex are obviously often awkward and you're nervous, worrying about doing and saying the right things. But what I did was try to think of it as just talking with women as if you were just talking to a close friend - like you were completely comfortable with whatever you said and whatever you did.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:07 PM
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He's unattractive, unemployed, and a creep. Not having a baby or baby mama isn't a quality, it's just not having a red flag the first guy has. You need to give him immaculate dick game and genius IQ or something and even then that wouldn't help since he has so much going against him already.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:00 PM
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Aside from the height and hair difference (which means the taller guy with hair wins by default) all the traits for both men are negative so it's kind of a no-brainer. For example where are the redeeming qualities for the 2nd guy to make the question challenging?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:44 PM
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Your comments are the definition of disingenuous. Or simply severely lacking awareness. You think these terminally online RP adherents complaining nonstop on these subs are succeeding with some women but are upset it's not all women? LOLOL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 09:39 PM
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"Stop being a baby" has definitely been directed toward men, if anything I've heard it said more toward men probably b/c of expectations for men to be all grown up and have their shit together at all times. Regardless from what I've seen it's a pretty non-gender specific jab/insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:17 PM
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It's conventional concepts that hurt both men and women - infantilizing women or "women are basically children" and then also expecting men to have all their shit together, man up, all that bs etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:16 PM
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Alright, but in this case the wall is then like 50 or late 40s, not 30 like a lot of men are saying. Also I'm not sure reduced sex drive alone means it's easier to be happier alone or in a sexless relationship/marriage. Especially with women it's more complex and for everyone there is the inherent want to be desired, cherished, and valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:02 PM
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They know you won't be responsive to an ad initially. You probably won't even watch the entire ad most of the time. But over many many times, the product name becomes engrained and just part of your awareness, you are much more likely then to just buy or choose that product when you need what they are advertising, especially if it's not something you are especially nitpicky about but are also new to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:53 AM
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I'm often confused between whether women just get more desperate and hate being single as they get older vs women do much better single than men. Honestly, the only single women I know - not many - are temporarily between relationships or going through kind of a casual phase, so I can't say. The amount of voluntarily long-term single women from what I can see are extremely rare. Are these studies done on [much] older women? I'm not going to say either way but I would posit since there are less s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:39 AM
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Obviously men don't want to be used and abused like an ATM, but me thinks the men who advertise hard on their provider abilities and status aren't the same ones complaining when a woman selects him for it, assuming she has similar goals in a mutually loyal long-term relationship. Just like how women who take pride in their appearance and advertise their looks to men don't want to be valued just for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:29 AM
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Maybe I misunderstood OP. But if you think overall the statement has merit, why do you think it's ableist and sexist if it's just acknowledging reality and biology from a general standpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:25 AM
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Questions like these are a testament to how commonplace online dating is - or how many people don't actually get out much. I can't imagine this happening organically IRL bar extreme cases. She's already decided he's attractive enough, likeable enough, interesting enough, interacted with him to the point where she's willing to fuck him. Then the pants come off and she's like "eww not as big as I would like" and throws it all away. Again, maybe in extreme cases, but what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:32 AM
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Yup. Before they were banned they were basically the flagship sub for pinkpill lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:27 AM
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Female version of redpill, basically how to vet for and land a high value man for commitment. The adherents are like their male counterparts, but I'd argue they are worse because their numbers are smaller and there are percentagewise more shitty ones, thinking they deserve 10s when they are bitter and offer nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:54 PM
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There are literally women on twoxchromosomes and in other hive-minded communities admitting they shit-test men - and justifying it. Not every woman, but enough women to explain why enough men believe women test them as a rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:39 AM
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It's just another example of how trash women copy trash men, like femcels coming up with the pinkpill from blackpill/redpill and incel male communities. They even incorporate corresponding or analogous cringe lingo like "moids" vs "foids", "scrotes" vs "roasties" "sis" vs "bro" and such. Like come up with your own shit at least man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:21 AM
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These guys manufacture the wildest narratives Can you explain what the OP said that was so "wild"? Plenty of people - almost a majority even in certain demographics - use dating apps to some degree, and while it's not as common as it was even a decade ago, many people still approach in public especially in the bar and club scenes. Granted, for as long as time we gauge how safe it will be before letting strangers further in, not simply that only the persistent ones are getting in and they are all…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:18 PM
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It's also why when all these young celebs or socialites get procedures done like buccal fat removal or whatever to look like a "model" they suddenly look like they are in their 40s. Google Kylie Jenner's resemblance to Cillian lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:33 PM
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The face gets more masculine as you age, male or female due to fat and collagen loss and bone remodeling. If there's sagging it makes the face look more bottom heavy. Excluding weight as a variable, everything gets sharper, more defined, and the face deflates like a balloon. That's why they say men "age better". Looking more masculine is already a default way for many men to "look better". To be fair, plenty of men moreso than women just stop giving a shit and let themselves go early on. Sure th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:19 PM
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I’m a 7/10 in looks with 9 lifestyle, so I can get 8s, casual sex with 5s. Really hot 9s with no baggage are usually out of my league. That's where niche game comes in. You find a 9 who thinks you're also a 9 or an 8 at least b/c she's into your type. Maybe even moreso if she has low self esteem but you did say no baggage lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:31 AM
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Y-You think that these men on PPD are trying to apply RP concepts to neg these women on PPD in hopes these PPD women are going to let them hit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:30 AM
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They did a study that basically concluded a goodlooking face doesn't constitute better health or stronger genes. Google professional athletes with the most gifted one in a million genes for talent and athleticism and you'll see the point. There's Tom Brady, Cristiano Ronaldo, and who else really? Crickets.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:30 AM
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Not sure if I wasn't clear. There's attractive enough to date. Many if not most men with some effort can achieve this. Then there's attractive enough that he could be an asshole with red flags out the ass and many women would still give him 2nd, 3rd chances. This is a higher threshold than the first. Requires maybe more effort and also lucky genetics. I'm not even talking about the difference between ONS or LTR. Hence the immortalized retort: "You're not hot enough to be this (insert negative pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:53 PM
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There's two of them. One is being enough to be dateable. That bar is lower. Then there's the being goodlooking enough that if you're a dick it's fine. The takeaway is the first bar isn't actually that high but not if you want to be an asshole with free reign.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:19 PM
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LOL difference between close guy friends and close woman friends. There are dudes I've been meaning to catch up with for years who live 20 minutes away. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:06 PM
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From what I've seen her tweets seem very mild and occasional compared to a lot of other anti-trans noise you see everywhere, even if these other sources might not be as famous as Rowling.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:08 AM
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fuck yeah. Tall glass of wholesome next door water. I mean she looks wholesome. If she turns out to be dirty, even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 12:01 AM
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I naturally look like one of those emo dudes already but I'm more talking about just the music. Don't care about the fashion and I've never worn makeup. Very angsty whiny therapy for man-children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:55 PM
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Shailene Woodley or Karen Gillan.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:53 PM
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That doesn't seem to be a weird choice she's very cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:53 PM
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Margot is objectively attractive but for some reason does nothing for me. Taylor is also objectively attractive has something there I really like - maybe something soft and sultry - despite being very indifferent to her music or hype. Maybe some of us men like the bad girls or the toxic drama queens on a primal level more than we'd like to admit. Also I love tall women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:34 PM
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Overreaction on the part of the liberal progressive SJW crowd is par for the course and/but so Jk Rowling tweets relatively conservative stances on gender once in a while and is somehow propped up as the TERF poster queen? Have these people actually encountered real TERFs online? Or any other anti-trans social media posts? Do they care as long as it furthers their narrative b/c she's high profile and popular? Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:21 PM
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It was when I wanted women the most lol. For some reason after high school after I glowed up and became more social and got more attention I became more detached and began the slow descent into being a jaded asshole. But that goes for most of life too. When I realize how to succeed at something it's time for the next chapter already.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:04 PM
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Explains the signs on the gym walls that specify rules for sporting events that are more for the parents. Like 'It's just a fucking game, it's all in fun don't be an asshole" "Sorry, your kid just ain't that good." and "There will be no professional recruiters or scouts here so eat a dick and relax. Thank you parental figures P.S. go fuck yourselves."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:56 PM
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The saddest most infuriating thing in life is most guys absolutely suck or are new with women when they want women the most, and by the time many of them figure everything out they're already jaded and numb.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:54 PM
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So again it's possible for someone to be voluntarily single long term and happy. My original comment was just to explain why a lot of people might find it hard to believe. Despite all the positives and progress one might have achieved in their newfound single life, there's the very real possibility that the reasons and history for choosing perpetual singlehood continue to haunt and eat at them. It seems like what you're describing in the 2nd paragraph isn't someone who has sworn off men/women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:55 PM
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Definitely some people "thrive" more in singlehood than others. I think my point was mainly that nobody by default chooses to be single indefinitely at the start, except for neurodivergent outliers it's a conscious decision that usually comes from heartbreak, trauma, frustration or failed attempts, with the latter applying regardless of whose fault it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:45 PM
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I think she's very pretty but her face is a bit too skinny. Edit: Ok and I guess for some reason it's kinda weird how her teeth stick out in some pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:43 PM
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Absolutely. But just b/c she'd be more miserable or unhappy with a guy she can't stand doesn't mean she's necessarily not miserable or unhappy now. For someone's inner logic to go "Men/women are trash, I'd rather be single", there's an implied constant sense of discontent and resentment from day to day there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:33 PM
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Unhappily taken < Unhappily single < Happily single < Happily taken
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:52 PM
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I would literally rather listen to nothing but mid 2000s emo music for the rest of my life than fuck a tradcon. Since mid 2000s emo music absolutely slaps, this says nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:45 PM
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There are obviously people who choose to be single long-term and are happy. But the reason why it's hard to believe is b/c for many, validation, attention, affection, and intimacy from the opposite sex is an inherent want and need even if it's not on the level of food, water and shelter. With this train of thought, the logic continues that a person who has decided to be single, won't have this need met but also that there were past circumstances or trauma that led to this decision to begin with.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:39 PM
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i feel like half of this subreddit is chronically online and it's concerning A severe underestimation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:35 AM
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If he’s still a douchbag he may get laid but he won’t get a LTR. If he does it won’t last. The sheer amount of women repeatedly going back to their abusive partners beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:33 AM
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She also stated in one of her comments she was told she was "the prettiest girl in high school" and that she's self-proclaimed attractive. Given this there is some severe delusion or lying going on if she's getting ZERO attention from dudes IRL unless she just got really fat and let herself go after h/s and even then you know that doesn't stop men with this epidemic of thirst we got.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 01:25 AM
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Right. But you still wouldn't say "I literally get zero attention from men". I constantly overestimate the integrity and communication skills of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:17 PM
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Female entitlement aside....that wasn't the point? How you say you get zero attention from men to sound modest and defensive and then say you got several hundred likes on OLD? JFL
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:13 PM
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Quote from some random female redditor ranting about her dating woes: " I do not have an inflated ego I literally get zero attention from men. You all assume things that are just wrong. Yes, I got an app and got several hundred likes, but none of those guys I found remotely attractive. At all. " LOLLL what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:02 PM
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damn I mean yeah alright then, would you cum on my gf too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:44 PM
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Legit the magnums are the only ones that go on without a hitch...other brands it's much harder like putting on that annoying mattress cover and hitting all the corners. Not really a flex though from a straight man as you say...most women don't care about size as long as it's big enough. You need that immaculate dick game to seal the deal no matter your length or girth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:40 PM
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And the profile character is distinctive enough that I remember who the user is even when the name is blocked out smh
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:33 PM
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That's b/c PPD is a magic place that turns men into Chads. Just trust me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:03 PM
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Do women not complain about RP and male-only spaces? Oh right, because these spaces support ideas harmful toward women but the women-only spaces do no such thing. Par for the course of double standards. If a woman is picky, good for her never settle. If a man is picky, he should stay in his lane or check his biases and misogyny. If a woman complains it's legitimate b/c patriarchy. If a man complains, stop complaining and be a man, nobody's forcing you to read FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:34 PM
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Just a natural inborn temperament. At work it's deadlines or rushing to get something done by a certain time, but even after work or during free time the brain is still stuck in that go mode. Always been neurotic and full of excess adrenaline but I don't want to resort to benzos or SSRIs b/c those make me feel dead and numb which I think is worse. Consciously relaxing muscles and posture has helped, but the pots of coffee per day aren't helping but I'm not willing to give that up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:46 PM
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I spent my last relationship constantly feeling stressed and under pressure due to my mental state. I liked her a lot, but maybe not enough to put myself through that type of duress for the foreseeable future. I can't imagine liking anyone that much, so I probably just need to get my shit right before I pursue anything long term again. One of my most toxic unproductive shitty traits is automatically assuming anyone who's into me has major issues themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 09:40 PM
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I saw some tiktok reel from a woman that went something like "Men think women dress sexy for them, but they don't know that if men didn't exist we'd dress even sexier." The comments were a bunch of misandric femcels or lesbians going "fAcTs" and "wHeRe'S tHe LiE?". As if common logic and sense wouldn't dictate the reason being social norms or not wanting to seem perverted or attract perverted men and degenerates.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:22 PM
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worcestershire?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:15 PM
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That's the scariest part about dating much less marriage. A million things can go wrong, and even when things don't go wrong it can still be bleh and awful because it can feel like a chore day in and day out. People always like to say relationships are hard and suffering by default, you just need to find someone you like so much you're willing to go through that for them again, but honestly I'm not sure such a person exists at least as far as my current state of mind stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:13 PM
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From what I've seen AITA is where a lot of problematic women like to frequent just b/c they probably enjoy reading and talking about the drama in other people's lives. A lot of these posters overlap with other high-profile anti-male female subs like twox.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:39 AM
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Par for the course dismissiveness to assume they aren't real problems men face but that it's a fetish for them to sound manly on a reddit sub. 60% of the time every time I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:20 AM
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Yeah that's fine, I'm saying there's a reason men are defending themselves at least on this sub. You say people are more likely to be understanding if it's avoiding single parents but I'm saying that's not the case here.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:09 AM
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You said no one's complaining and I'm saying there are people complaining who aren't just single mothers frustrated with dating. People on this sub regularly post that men should be okay with dating single mothers or overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 03:36 AM
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There are posts here regularly from women saying average men can't complain and are shooting out of their league i.e. beggars can't be choosers if they want a woman who isn't a single mother or overweight. Combined with "it's just mother nature, sorry" when talking about how women don't find most men attractive and want the top men. Nature alone is hardly a good argument for what's okay and not okay in a civilized society - everyone wants the best they can get, but even if it somehow was, it's i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:25 AM
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I'm always surprised at the sheer number of worthless studies out there with inherent biases, conflicts of interest eg funding, insufficient sample sizes, with worthless conclusions and manufactured implications, that were nevertheless conducted correctly and thoroughly using the right methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:36 PM
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Completely agree. CICO is just too simple a concept to sell books and potions.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:32 PM
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Will the keto diet sugar-is-poison crowd ever learn to stfu? Every single low-carb proselytizer I've seen is ironically a chubby or fat shitshow alongside their huckster snake oil salesmen prophets writing their books who are usually no prize themselves. It's either that or they are just emaciated because of restricted eating. Sugar ages skin? Then why do you look absolutely haggard as fuck like a prune corpse in your book photo touched up to show you looking your very best? The followers are bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 09:15 PM
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If you have to put the right good high quality food in front of her for her to eat when you can put out an applebee's dinner roll in front of a man and he'll pounce on it whereas the woman will immediately push it away, the man is hungrier and wants to eat more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:08 PM
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Thought you were for sure British due to your liberal use of the word "lads". In the UK they spell words like colour, labour, behaviour, endeavour, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 07:49 AM
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I read the entire OP in a very British accent. But you spelled behavior and endeavor without the 'u' so I'm confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:37 AM
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sure thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:44 AM
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To be honest women like that do exist but I'd say the majority of women actually don't pursue casual sex with men at all at least on a regular basis. Whether they "could" is another matter, but fact is most don't. Any sex they have outside of a relationship context is usually during dating with a few men at most when they are trying to lock a man down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 04:09 AM
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The person who will eat any sandwich at any time anywhere and will take what he can get. That would be men. You can't argue that the person demanding a Michelin 5-star full course meal or nothing is hungrier. Edit: To further the point, the 'beggars can't be choosers' concept even applies to Chad, who, with some minimal effort, can fuck high SMV women, but yet the trope goes that he is content with fucking average women as long as he's fucking and b/c it's easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:47 AM
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That still means men are hungrier but women just can eat more b/c of a bigger stomach lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:32 AM
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LOL and how is that? The OP is about the delusion of women having equal sex drives to men as an absolute statement pushed by people here to further whatever arguments they have. Doesn't matter if a piece of bread does it for men so it's "easier" to manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:31 AM
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It's closer to 95%. The most "rewarding" conversations I've had here are just bullshit banter with zero stakes and when we're not talking about anything important. This sub is literally best when you're just needing to waste time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:26 AM
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Your comment doesn't make any sense. How does how easily men alleviate or satisfy the drive have absolutely any relevance the social context of the OP and the PPD sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:24 AM
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Sex drive is like hunger. Metaphorically a man will take any half-eaten loaf of dry bread. Women require fine dining under the right circumstances. If you won't eat unless it's fine dining with the right decor, you aren't as hungry as the guy who will take any old piece of bread at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:01 AM
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BPers and mainstream society increasingly love to say men and women are the same it's just the socialization that makes all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:43 AM
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Some surveys of 86 countries showed that happiness tends to decrease for people that have children and are under 40, while people over 40 tend to have increased happiness. So basically your happiness goes up or returns when you no longer have to take care of your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:41 AM
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Honestly this is legit. I'm straight but from a sheer aesthetic standpoint, like looking at nice cars or paintings, I find men, when they put in effort, "better looking". Everything is just more structurally impressive and the faces don't need contour or makeup to display definition. A few years ago a couple female friends said something similar but at the time I still didn't really grasp what they meant. Ultimately though it's only the female form that gets me hard or ignites "sexual" interest.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:16 AM
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A lot of people are understandably struggling these days financially, and one of my friends who is a nurse casually dropped that she had been making ends meet (and a lil more to afford her lifestyle) by selling feet pics. Because I was going out of my way to not be judgmental I just said "huh, interesting" lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:17 PM
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I think it's just interesting (but not that surprising I guess) that out of all the things like facial attractiveness, status, finances, intelligence, humor etc it's the height that is the most shared common trait by far when the woman has the most options, or maybe even in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:13 AM
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Women's eyes immediately gravitate to the tallest man in a group. He will always be considered first. It's an innate and primally driven priority. She may not necessarily end up picking him if he has other things about him she can't deal with, or if one of the other guys is a lot better looking or has great charisma and status, but the advantage will always be there. A tall guy can lean on his tallness until his flaws become non-negotiable, a short guy will forever need to prove himself with his…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:03 AM
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I'm too lazy to watch the video can someone ELI5 why it's not a good thing to have less people objectively? Or is it something like the system needs increasing amounts of taxpayers and drones to stay growing and running.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:50 AM
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Agree improving your looks is comparatively the easiest and shortest path to upping your dating success. Most people don't actually know what personality is and equate having a "good" personality with just being nice or not an asshole, thus the "personality doesn't matter" trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:44 AM
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It's also very much like a liberal progressive hipster thing. I think comedian Chris DeStefano did a couple bits on this, remarking on how he sees 40-year olds in skinny jeans riding literal scooters to work eating ice cream cones.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:44 AM
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As far as I've observed many women active on instagram or social media, like the ones who take the time to carve out a pristine online image, are also very socially active IRL...so I don't know how it's hiding behind an electronic presence b/c they are in no way an exception or minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:32 AM
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Because many people are incredibly simple-minded and lack discernment, so looks is the easiest thing to suss out as the problem. Most people with bad social skills do not even have the emotional intelligence to realize they have bad social skills - they think they're just fine - much less improve upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:28 AM
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In line with OP, I'm talking about being entitled and sensitive to the point of regarding the most minor of things as dealbreakers; feeling easily "offended" and "uncomfortable" about stupid bullshit when the person is otherwise great/fine eg being 5'10 instead of 6', having a slightly higher pitched voice than normal, an unconventional gait or the way they chew. Our current culture supports this and "the ick" being a trendy thing to just blurt out and say whenever wherever is just a more recent…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:50 PM
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I'm 14 and I agree this is very deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:32 PM
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"The ick" is just one of the newer cringe ways increasingly soft people exercise (heh, but not physically ofc) their entitlement to the highest standards and in not wanting to feel uncomfortable or offended in the slightest ways. "Eww, ________ gives me the ick" while sipping on their iced coffee living in the best time to be a human ever in a postmodern country.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 08:15 PM
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It is cringe, but it's not indicative of them being gay or sexually attracted to men. It's simply an autistic-tier fixation a lot of these men have. Obligatory "not that there's anything wrong with being gay".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:13 PM
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Because in this day and age of social media and feminism (eg women outearning men) a man is more likely to worry about his looks because looks is increasingly tied with status; finances and physical strength are no longer as necessary. They are still part of the pie women look for but they comprise a smaller percentage now. Combine this with the idea that even average looking women have it easier than attractive men in dating and there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:57 PM
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I mean the point is it's disgusting. But what about the money? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:20 PM
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Your textbook "men are awful women are wonderful" response is not even worth getting into. If you got this far no amount of logic is going to change your mind anyway *welp And I've been wrong for giving people the benefit of the doubt...many times. Probably more women, but that's b/c I'm around more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:18 PM
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But you do know what it says...x)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:41 PM
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LOL there are actually people here who think 300 lbs + is common. I feel sorry for where they live if that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:40 PM
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I guess I should specify this isn't like mostly muscle mass so it's not from bulking or lifting although 100 lbs of lm would be absolutely insane. It's just conventional fat gain and I suppose you can keep it anyway you like, which is by overeating and not moving, like how it happens to most people aside from those with rare hormonal disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:30 PM
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I mean the thing is a lot of people actually gain that much just from going through shit in life without getting paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:28 PM
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2 years isn't as long as it sounds tho. The beginning of the pandemic was 4 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:14 PM
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Would you gain 100 pounds and stay there for 2 years for $5 million?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:11 PM
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I mean it's just like women and makeup. Even men who know many women look completely mediocre or subpar without it it doesn't stop them from simping and thirsting. The lizard brain does what it does...hence the "Is he really hot/do I really like him or is he just tall" trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:10 PM
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Heh. Maybe go deep into Walmart country or the south they are everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:46 AM
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6'6 people are not everywhere, it's literally less than 1% of people, just like people who weigh 300 lbs. But hey, maybe it's more common where you live lol if you're saying shit like "it's not THAT big".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:21 AM
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Literally like saying 6'6" isn't that tall because 7'6" people exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:07 AM
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Just a dismissive self-serving answer basically "Well that's b/c men are more violent." Par for the course here. Problematic biases aside, did you miss the part about how women are much more likely to be associated with a wide array of positive personality traits, not simply being less likely to be a threat? Or that even after men are deemed "safe", they still need to prove themselves because there aren't any positive assumptions on their behalf?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:59 AM
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It's more than that. Women in general are given more of the benefit of the doubt, assumed to be free of, or at least have less, bad traits, be less of a potential threat, less suspicious, and have more positive attributes and associations. As a dude I can be guilty of making these assumptions myself due to social conditioning. Attraction often has nothing to do with it, as I find myself automatically feeling endeared to middle-aged or elderly women as well and automatically think of them as nurt…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:12 AM
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I suspect if he didn't have as defined jawline and square/rectangular lots of his "attractive" qualities would vanish For a lot of men having a defined square jaw is literally the only trait they need to pass as being facially attractive to most women. If you take away this you can argue most "handsome" men would be mediocre at best. Same with height, although I think Elordi is facially better than the average man. You make a 6'3" guy who's a hit with women into a 5'8" guy, most likely he'll be …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:58 AM
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Jacob Elordi is the tall chad version of Timothee Chalamet lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:56 AM
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If you're attractive and intelligent and struggle with dating you 100% do not have personality or charm. You most certainly have terrible social skills and problems reading social cues and seem weird or offputting. Maybe you're one of those people who has the type of borderline autistic analytical intelligence at the expense of the emotional kind such that you are unable to see how you are failing socially. There is not a single socially competent attractive man out there who has trouble with wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:19 AM
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I don't disagree with all RP, but basically young men gravitate toward Tate and RP figures b/c nobody is offering any other guidance worth a damn. You want men to ditch Tate for someone who's not an alleged human trafficker? Give them something - literally anything - besides lazy trash mainstream BP advice like "find a hobby" or "keep a positive attitude and be kind and you'll find the one". Young men aren't stupid. They have eyes and ears. They see what works and what doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:07 AM
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Re: the ideological divide between the sexes. There's no need to even get into modern dating dynamics. Mainstream politics, manifested in all its headlines, buzzwords, the kind young people are most likely to pay attention to, clearly does not care about men and so much of it is women's issues and criticizing men. Why are we surprised that young men feel this way and care less and women care more? It's absolute common sense. Like pushing a box off a table and being shocked that it falls. Article…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:29 PM
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I mean I can see that being the case for certain small parts of LA but in terms of the entire giant metropolis as a whole I can't imagine all the normal guys especially struggling more than anyone else. Again, at least as far as I know and from what I've heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:34 PM
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I would assume careers in entertainment, which would attract the more extroverted types.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:56 AM
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I thought car culture brings people out and together but maybe I've just watched too much Fast and Furious. Also I assumed traffic is bad b/c LA is full of extroverts who go out constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:35 AM
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Not really related to PPD but just curious, why aren't there many third places? What is it about LA that's different from other cities aside from it being bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:27 AM
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Do normal guys not have girlfriends in LA?/Is the guy in every couple above average?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:13 AM
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You should watch animal fights.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:42 AM
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I mean tbf I've been saying mental illness is the primary and most likely reason for both men and women who constantly complain about the opp sex here. It's the reason why you have guys saying "I'm 6'2 and a 7/10 and it's still not good enough for women, b/c women only want the top 1%". It's obvious people are not okay here and in need of meds and I can't imagine most of these people not being complete spergs when trying to date IRL. It's basically Reddit really. Although it's pointless to say t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:38 AM
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LOL the look on my bro's face when he asks me how the football season is coming along and I say I switched to capybara UFC.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:08 AM
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A lot of my friends are the typical loud bros obsessed with fantasy (or real life) baseball or football. Just b/c I needed something new, I tried to take them up as hobbies in terms of just studying or analyzing the game and have had a hard time not falling asleep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 02:02 AM
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I mean why do I even post here. B/c I used to have a life and I have zero life now b/c nothing gets me pumped or excited anymore lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:52 AM
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Women who hate men and say they can't find a man, men aren't shit b/c they all want Stacy and insist they are cute, feminine, loyal, funny. There is literally ZERO chance you are actually all of those things and don't have men waiting to simp and wife you up. Unless: You have a major irredeemable red flag like coming across as straight up batshit insane. Mental illness that makes you extremely dysfunctional in daily life that it's creeping people out or putting them off big time. Honestly, even …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:43 AM
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Don't you have a normal BMI? No need to be skinny or look like you're on meth. You're getting married in a couple years and starting a family, unlike the rest of us mentally ill fucks you actually have a future, who the fuck cares how you look anymore anyway as long as your man is still attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:39 AM
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Except for #4 being a devoted family man, none of the bullet points you listed are examples of masculinity, it's just him being a good person. Just goes to show "positive" and "toxic masculinity" manifested are just men social progressives have decided they like or dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:28 AM
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Reminds me once again of that link I brought up a while ago of the two 17 year olds looking a whole ass 40. I don't even know how to explain that. You can drink like a fish and smoke like a chimney and you still shouldn't be looking like that before you're even out of h/s. I know people close to 30 now who actually drink and smoke a lot who look much younger. Sunscreen not even an issue since nobody gaf about sunscreen before 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:23 AM
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That's why I say the reason why so many people here unanimously agree you look best at 20 and it's downhill from there is because they just live in very trashy areas where people's bodies go to shit after 23 due to failure or inability to give fucks from dead-end jobs and an otherwise shitty life. I think you can definitely still take care of yourself but the harder the life circumstances the greater likelihood you won't prioritize health or wellness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:18 AM
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I still remember feminists calling men complaining about Barbie losers who couldn't get laid. But down with toxic masculinity amirite x)x)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:19 AM
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it's Robert
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 12:15 AM
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I also don't care, but for purposes of discussion if the Oscars are used for political reasons wouldn't Robbie or Gerwig have been nominated for sure?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:41 PM
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I don't doubt it goes both ways. The reason why I responded to you initially is b/c your implication is that it's one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:32 PM
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Seriously. With all the left-wing progressive politics inserted into countless high-profile and high-budget films and shows for the past 10 plus years, something like Ryan Gosling getting nominated for Barbie instead of Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig is all it takes for the mobs to scream "We need feminism". Edit: Oh shit someone just posted something random about this shit right below me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:30 PM
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The point is there is an overall attitude and arrogance perceived by men from women that bleeds into everything women say and do when interacting with men. There is a very small if no difference between this and some comparatively small number of random insults thrown by incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:19 PM
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I would argue a lot of men do feel these women are putting men down, if not directly, at least in the form of thinking they are too good for most men, rejecting them in dating, and just arrogance. I'm not going to say I agree with all of it but this is literally what a lot of guys feel modern women are thinking. I don't feel that a direct insult is that different from disparaging comments made to her friends about a man who tried to date or approach her in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:21 PM
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Do women not also complain about men being delusional about their own value? The unemployed fat neckbeard living on momma's couch saying a supermodel's nose is too big or that a woman will die alone b/c she's too focused on career. Is that not a trope? Wanting the other sex to be "accountable" and have self awareness is a sentiment shared by both sexes b/c frankly a lot of people are delusional thanks to the "everyone is a winner" thing we got going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:23 PM
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This is the right answer. People are more likely to associate with those who play the same sports, enjoy the same hobbies, listen to the same music and gravitate toward the associated lifestyle and aesthetic, and reside in the same neighborhood with the same socioeconomic class. All these common threads also mean they are more likely to look, dress, and style themselves the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:02 AM
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What about Soylent. Is that a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:50 PM
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I have never understood gold-diggers unless their current life is just absolute third-world or trailer park tier shit. Marrying someone for looks or sex is shallow but at least you're getting to enjoy the looks and the sex. You marry a guy you aren't attracted to at all who's loaded....yeah you got the big house, the car, the vacations, nice things. But your vacations are spent traveling with him. When you enjoy fine dining he's sitting at the table with you. You sleep in the big nice house, in …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:41 PM
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It's quite unusual for friends to think you're likeable. The fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:36 PM
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Links? There are lots of studies that compare the looks ratings of couples, worldwide? LOL. At least be better at lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:25 PM
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Or maybe we live in different areas with different demographics. Ironically I see beautiful women with less attractive men among richer or higher-class people. In any case I don't expect people like you to examine your own thoughts under a critical lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:24 PM
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Not harsh at all. I just call it like I see it. I am equally critical of men here if warranted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:22 PM
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"Maybe you're gay since your observations don't align with mine." smh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:27 PM
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I see it all the time, has nothing to do with my own experience. Dude is just clearly better looking. And usually tall. I don't know if it's the majority though, but it's not rare in any sense. Usually it's an okay looking woman slightly overweight with a man who's tall, decent looking, and not fat, if not in shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 12:06 PM
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Except couples where the man is more attractive, sometimes significantly so, are not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:58 AM
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Active flirting, passive flirting. It's basically just normal now when the boo thang isn't around. Like how women go "When I'm really into a guy, every other guy is invisible to me". Here's the thing, if this special guy tunnel vision lasts all of the first 2 weeks out of a whole ass textbook mediocre relationship it doesn't really count lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:48 AM
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Redpill opinion: Persona matters a lot. Bluepill opinion: Personality matters a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:38 PM
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I mean tbf clubs and bars naturally attract certain types of people with certain personalities, looking for certain things, but as I said I observe this behavior in other public and private spaces as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 07:32 PM
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OP describes my experiences except instead of an office it's nightlife. But outside of work I also notice it everywhere in public settings. If only this was restricted to specific circles of garbage people, but it's so normalized, rampant, and widespread. It also doesn't need to be actual cheating. It's the petting, flirtation, giggles when the husbands/bfs or wives/gfs aren't around. Makes you wonder, is there any value in long-term commitment anymore anyway? Furthermore most people, even when …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 04:37 PM
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yeah....I don't know wtf people are on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:22 AM
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Incels and femcels, and maybe people who aren't as shitty but equally mentally ill with BDD on these subs, both sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:17 AM
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Or more like..you're somehow expecting dudes willing to consistently pay money to watch you finger yourself on stream are likely to be functional well-adjusted men with a clean bill of mental health?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 10:30 PM
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So in your opinion are the downsides of artificial wombs the same as those with adoption and surrogacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 03:50 PM
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Status wins hands down. But in this day and age with social media and as you say young people being basic, looks is the primary form of status for those with nothing else going for them, whether it be career, accomplishments, skills, fame, money, etc. Women see a goodlooking guy and think he is high status b/c he probably takes good IG pictures and the women live on IG.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:39 AM
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B/c if you're fit you'll be an automatically more appealing choice b/c of all the fat guys around, unless you're really ugly. There are very few men who are irredeemably ugly after lifting, leaning up and grooming. Yeah I get there are fat guys with decent faces. Usually unless the guy is really goodlooking the fit guys still win out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 05:34 AM
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If it's always been that way, it's always been a problem. Since I'm not immortal and don't exist across time, I haven't increasingly thought about these types of things until recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 04:37 AM
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If society is at a point (or always has been) where people need children to incentivize cooperating with the opposite sex - if for example men need to force themselves to marry and cooperate with women - to endure the pains of marriage and impending divorce and misery - so they can have the children they have always wanted, we have much bigger problems we should be addressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 01:00 AM
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The correlation between "incels" and those who both want and are good parent material is extremely low. Depends on your definition of incel. If you're talking about the trolls and undermedicated edgelords who frequent 4chan, then I agree. If you extend it to all men who seriously struggle with dating - mostly due to social skills or autism - or have reservations about women or marriage, that's different b/c it's a much bigger group with more subdemographics. The latter mostly being not incels Su…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 11:52 PM
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It will remedy the men who really want children but can't get a woman or don't want to deal with women or a wife. If you're a forever alone incel who can't improve his dating success to save his life there's an argument saying you should be able to have a kid if you want as long as you have the best of intentions. Plenty of ill-prepared unfit assholes having kids these days already b/c they got nothing else going on in life or they want the tax breaks, nobody calls them selfish; in fact signific…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 10:25 PM
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I'm a neurotic socially anxious twink loser, pale, dark emo hair, good face structure but nothing to fill it out, who needs to gain at least 20 lbs to look respectable, yet I've had women out of my league ask me out, the archetypical blonde Stacies or whatever. That's what I mean when I say prettier women can be more insecure or less picky. Or they have niches. A lot of women go for skinny awkward-looking men for some reason due to trends, or they have complexes and insecurities about their own …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:51 PM
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I read that as dat fat ass. I may need help. A lot of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 11:58 PM
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I still don't get how this happens. Look at how defined the cleft in his chin is and how he has like no padding anywhere on his face. I know most or many 17 year olds are probably at their leanest, but their faces still have babyfat that doesn't really start going away until like mid20s. Not to mention plenty of teenagers go tanning like crazy still and who before 20 actually gives a shit about being diligent with sunscreen? So what's the deal lol I have no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:26 AM
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You haven't provided much for us to have gone in circles aside from pressing why people dislike RP then if it's mainly about social skills. I explained why I think RP has so many detractors and it didn't seem to satisfy you but you didn't really elaborate. Hope you get more answers to your liking with the other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:38 AM
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RP is about men improving their social skills but it's honestly a very difficult thing to do for many men esp those who self-select by proactively looking for dating strategies and advice. A lot of people with authority in RP circles sell it as much more straightforward than it really is, as if you can just remember to do certain things at certain times like putting everything into a neat equation to get the answer/result you want. I guess in the end you can say, if most of RP doesn't account fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:30 AM
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You would think so. I think there are mainly two types of people who dislike or disagree with RP: Many women and most of the mainstream, b/c RP instruction is often detached and objectifying and disrupts the "all women are sugar and spice" narrative. At the same time you have plenty of bad eggs who are actually shitty misogynistic opportunists who take up the RP brand, men who encourage lying to women or pumping and dumping. Obviously this isn't going to be received well. Success with women is o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:16 AM
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A lot of RP advice the way I've perceived it is just a re-packaged way of training men to improve and practice social skills, reading social cues and dynamic, and maximizing versatility in interactions. And/or essentially learning how to be a salesman - where the product is oneself - presenting a type of easy extroversion in the context of approaching and dating. There are a lot of specific RP concepts I think are overdone or tweaked to a degree that is very cringe-inducing and counterproductive…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 02:00 AM
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My impression of a lot of self-identified RP men here is they are actually more like men who lean toward nihilism or a type of blackpill; they feel it's useless b/c of women's entitlement, standards, and whatnot. Not going to say none of their grievances are valid or that they are always wrong - they aren't and there's a lot to be upset about, but at its core RP promotes and instructs upon behavioral changes and factors in one's control to increase one's success with women. The focus is on perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:51 AM
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My point to reiterate wasn't that this place isn't a shitshow but that other places on reddit are even worse. So that's why I don't call this place "the bubble" as there are much worse and bigger bubbles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:52 AM
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Yea but those dudes literally could pass for 45. And a hard 45 at that. At least the one on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:25 PM
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A lot if it is genetics. I have 40 year old relatives who look like they're still in college. Some of them are the bro-ey outdoorsy type who never wear sunscreen. Granted staying in shape and continuing to play sports helped them a lot. Meanwhile, you got people who eat right, get all their antioxidants and look like full-blown moms by the time they hit 23. I'm saying this even as I know for some reason the general public has very low standards and throws things around like "Do you even age?" an…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:17 PM
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PPD is toxic b/c people in general are stupid and toxic - yet it's actually one of the "less bad" places aside from neutral subs about random hobbies. Put up next to the many other gender-specific, political, or even health-related subs out there, as sad as this sounds PPD seems comparatively healthy and reasonable. Mainly b/c most subs just naturally facilitate groupthink led by the most outspoken and batshit insane. At least this place is a debate sub with active mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 08:58 PM
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"I like you anyway" somehow sounds preferable and more genuine than "You're one of the good ones". While it's not ideal that the biases and generalizations still prevail at least the latter doesn't imply some fantasy of a unicorn while reaffirming said biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:57 PM
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And you know the statements about all ____________ being trash are ridiculous and lack merit right. If you ever find someone you like and harbor generalizations about the group they're a part of ("You're one of the good ones") you have to sort that shit out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:22 PM
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Does subconscious judgment not affect how we behave and treat others? Or perhaps potentially turn into conscious judgment? The woman doesn't need to say it out loud to the guy's face that he's a bad person, I don't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:58 PM
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Man if you look up strawman in the dictionary they should just do a screenshot of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:56 PM
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Pretty disingenuous to say women who are creeped out by certain men aren't at least subconsciously judging them on a moral level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:52 PM
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Alright but you know there's an actual pinkpill right, it's the female unoriginal and derivative equivalent of the shittiest and most delusional part of red and blackpill. Basically both sides of the same coin, misogynist incels and misandrist femcels.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 05:49 PM
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'I agree women are entitled hypergamists, but why are you still mad. Just learn to be happy alone or move abroad bro'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 10:53 AM
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Also how tf would that even work. 1) If he can't cum while fucking her why would he want to be with her - esp in the context of just beginning to date - and 2) guys can nut from their imagination alone in minutes, why would there be a need to fake anything? We're not talking about a guy with gradual ED or waning drive years into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:35 AM
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How many 6'4 hot rich guys do you see? Versus how many men are in relationships. Even 10/10 high status women who could have any man they want, don't have partners who hit all those boxes. So obviously there's more to the story and what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 01:08 AM
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Wiggle room as in if you're not 6'4" you can make up for it in other ways to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:56 AM
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You don't care is different from you'd rather he not. I believe for the vast majority of women they'd choose the latter but it's just one of those things that's impossible not to settle on to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:49 PM
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Just get that blue and white container of Cerave moisturizing cream. Basically dirt cheap for the amount you get and all things considered probably the most effective for most people. Consistently rated high if not the highest among derms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:44 PM
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100%. But 99% know it's unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 08:29 PM
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And a man's personality is more important than his net worth or height, but here we are. It's a no-brainer that anything shallow will lose its luster and fail to stand the test of time if a relationship is to be long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:51 PM
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With porn there are all types of women depicted. As far as I've seen, admittedly little, of romance novels or literotica it's always one type of man. Re: realism are there stories out there of women getting their panties soaked from sexual tension built up over days because of squirrely Bob from accounts receivable or Travis the pudgy line cook killing it at the pancake house? Once again, the point is to get off, literotica is not different or even more realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:45 PM
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....Who cares? If the ultimate point is sexual satisfaction, it doesn't matter. The fact is women need more than just a picture of a hot dude to orgasm and men conversely don't need much more than a picture of a hot woman. Women are not "better" for using literotica instead of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 09:10 PM
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Guilty here. But there's also certain types of men I don't respect as well. Has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with the behavior and mindset of people in these categories.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 08:58 PM
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I've had women try to sell me the idea that literotica or smut is somehow deeper and not as bad as porn because it's not "visual" and involves character development, when in reality it's just that women need the social and emotional context to get turned on, they are literally just trying to get off just like men watching porn. There isn't anything more to it. And the guy is yes, always described as a roguish tall muscular gigachad with long flowing hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:25 PM
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It doesn't seem like you are actually attracted to men, either that or your dislike of men is making you considering going for women, so forgive me if I trust my straight normal friends' opinions over yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:55 AM
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Oh you mean Ronaldo. I was like who the fuck is CR7 x) Messi is obviously GOAT but he just looks like an average guy. My friend said she was attracted to Beckham until he opened his mouth and she couldn't believe he sounded like that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:59 AM
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Was eating dinner with a couple friends who tend to be very shallow. One of them was on her phone talking about Kylian Mbappe (spelling?) and how she thought he was cute, and the other one goes "Yeah he is, he's like ugly cute. He's not handsome but somehow it works." Then I said no dude is actually goodlooking, there's no such thing as ugly cute. Just admit your own standards are very narrow, limited and faulty, doesn't matter if he's not white or doesn't have blue eyes and wavy hair. I think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 05:48 AM
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There's not a lot of incentive for men to be a muscular, take charge, aggressively social networker and responsible for all sorts of shit or protection either. It just so happens the opposite sex is largely very attracted to it naturally. The men who aren't naturally that way have to decide whether they want to change themselves depending on how okay they are with their dating results.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:56 PM
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Most women in their 20s are in long term relationships. They are actually the demographic most likely to be in long term relationships versus older women. You're just regurgitating textbook manosphere monologue with zero life experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:08 PM
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This right here. Almost everyone who can't find someone b/c of their overly high standards also blames the opposite sex or has major issues with the opposite sex. What the OP describes, someone who has overly high standards but is somehow content with a healthy frame of mind, is a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 02:04 PM
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I would say status matters to all women. If anything it might matter even more to younger women b/c they are more easily impressed with fame and the idea that a lot of people (or other women) are into the guy also. Younger people are more likely to just follow the herd and aren't as comfortable with going against the grain (eg dating a guy that her friends object to). Ofc if you are attractive with no status, you might do just fine as long as you aren't socially incompetent, but that's beside th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 10:29 PM
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It's not fetish content. I'm not going to say this video represents conventional behavior and what is acceptable but there's no need to complicate what's obvious. It's a bunch of thirsty simps pedestalizing an extremely mid basic twitch girl with the typical twitchgirl voice I would rather be punched repeatedly in the face than listen to for more than a minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:10 PM
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Assuming most of the men you know are around your age, do you live in a more rural or conservative area? B/c I know people aren't getting married before 25 in most bigger cities in the west. Edit: But yeah LTRs are fairly common in both men and women even in the early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:58 PM
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Here's another question though. If you aren't okay with your man having a motorized vagina do you think it's fair that women have vibrators or dildoes? Something like upwards of 80% of women own at least one, so is the main difference being it's an object made to look like the entire woman instead of just the genitalia?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:11 AM
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See b/c you're talking about what you would do now. If you were old enough to be like 50 now I'm sure 30 years ago at 20 you'd say the same thing about any guy who watches porn. Now we got women saying they are fully okay and understanding with their man watching porn as long as he doesn't cheat with a real woman. We really just don't know what things will be like later on down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:08 AM
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Yeah I mean, the state of things ain't good for sure lol. Never argued that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 06:01 AM
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Bro I don't know. A lot of things change, 20-30 years ago I don't think anybody expected all guys to have a porn folder in plain view on their desktop either. Never say never.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:56 AM
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This would again be counteracted by sexbot usage becoming increasingly accepted. Like how even mentioning porn or masturbation amongst even close friends used to be unthinkable, and now coworkers just throw it out randomly when joking around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:52 AM
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Right, so maybe I'm in the minority when I say the addition of AI, a personality, things like carrying on conversation etc aren't a big deal. Maybe many men would be much more open to it, again assuming the stigma goes away and the price goes down. If they ever became mainstream I can't imagine each one costing 20k. They're 20k only b/c they are still an extreme novelty, but you're probably right in that if it happens it's still quite a ways away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:50 AM
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Ok well I don't know, but if I were to buy a sex toy, a flexible doll would be sufficient. As fucked up as this sounds the doll wouldn't need to talk or anything. It would need to look like an attractive naked woman though, but walk and talk is not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:41 AM
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I meant the appeal for me wouldn't be really different. But clearly a lot of men think otherwise, along with the fact that the tech would become less taboo and more affordable in the coming years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:39 AM
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As far as I know they are still very niche, which is why I was thinking further down the line. Once again porn was once a lot more taboo as well and now men freely talk about masturbating to it. I would expect sexbots or dolls to be much more popular among men simply b/c sex is much more easily appreciated by men even when there is zero emotion involved and it's just purely mechanical. But apparently that's not always the case as 1) dildos and vibrators are popular among women and 2) there seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:35 AM
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It wouldn't be that different is what I'm saying I guess. The mechanical detached sex appeal part of it I get, maybe b/c many men don't need any idea of a personality to get off. I don't feel like I would really appreciate the extra AI technology. I would also understand if you just wanted a robot to do chores, but I think there's already shit like that for sale anyway. Just an entire line of differently purposed Roombas maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:27 AM
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If I were ever interested in buying a sex robot I'm pretty sure I could do without all the extra AI and personality and affection, knowing full-well it's not real. But I guess for many the brain can acclimatize itself to delusion and false reality. After all there are men paying for girlfriend experiences when they somehow know the woman is being paid to pretend to like you; something different than just getting your rocks off with passionless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:22 AM
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Google says about 3k. Obviously tech is limited I'm guessing but this will go down, and in the future any bot with default up-to-date tech will be around 3k equivalently (like smartphones, tvs, computers)? Admittedly not my field of expertise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:30 AM
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The stigma will decrease and become more acceptable over time, just like how masturbating and porn use has basically become not only acceptable but expected among men (and women); jerking off to porn is freely talked about in public arenas to the surprise (and criticism) of almost no one. Bringing up masturbation as a topic with your friends used to be unthinkable, now people send mere acquaintances memes about fapping in all types of contexts. As for cost, I feel like again the future long-term…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:19 AM
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I don't think a lot of men would be that picky. I imagine many would be okay with just partially functioning sexbots that don't look "too creepy" and are just waiting for the price to go down. Don't life size dolls that talk already exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:12 AM
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Sex is important but i think it's part of the bigger piece which is attention. Many women have agreed they have a primal need for attention, and men have a primal need for respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:43 AM
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In the same way dating preferences don't just come out of nowhere or solely from within and are never completely one's own choice, but nobody here is ready for that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:35 AM
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Just like porn, the effect of sexbots isn't just going to be taking men who are already losers out of the dating game. This is a very oversimplified view that people of both sides like to argue around - either "fuck you incels" or "fuck you women now you will truly be useless." Plenty of relationships are destroyed or at least hampered by porn-watching, and plenty of men who don't struggle in dating will also be curious about sexbots as well. Basically imagine all the negative aspects and effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:33 AM
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And you somehow think calling out a guy who is promoting sexbottery as bad at sex is some kind of gotcha? Goes without saying a huge portion of the target market will be men who are bad at sex, probably b/c they have problems getting it and haven't had any opportunity to practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 03:24 AM
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I wouldn't say your status needs to be exceptionally high to trump looks. You just need more status and game than the other dude and he can't be THAT much better looking than you lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:57 AM
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This is why it's hilarious when people talk about how they are surprised Pete Davidson consistently pulls and dates the highest tier women. Dude is literally top percentile in height, he's white, relatively young, has top percentile money, status and fame due to being funny, also has a solid extroverted, charismatic and kind persona. Literally the only thing he isn't top-tier in is his facial attractiveness, and if we're honest he's probably better than average considering the norm of a fat blan…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 02:54 AM
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We'll just agree to disagree. I would say you have a point about Bill looking pretty feminine and that it doesn't always translate to the female gaze due to male projection, but I seriously am having a hard time seeing anything masculine in Alex's face aside from "yeah he's obviously a guy". Everything about his face just screams vanilla. Edit: Also Alex was by far the preferred vampire in True Blood to Stephen Moyer, with a lot of people calling Moyer ugly even. To me Moyer's face look(ed) a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:43 AM
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I wouldn't think so. He has a better more developed lower third, more cheekbone projection overall. Along with the hallmarks of feminine features that work on men, large eyes and full lips. I feel like Alex's features are all just small and plain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:57 AM
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Looksmaxxing is also much easier than personality or moneymaxxing. As they say, don't chase women, chase money and the women will chase you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:30 AM
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Because if he was 5'8 and not famous he would absolutely be just another cute guy out of many cute guys - maybe of the skinny hipster messenger bag toting variety, you'd walk by in any metropolitan city. And not even one you would remember at the end of the day. But there's no way I would expect you to separate just his face from his fame, stature, and everything he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:11 AM
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I don't think Harry Styles is all that personally, but at least with him I kinda get it. He just has better features. I assumed you think Skarsgard is pretty b/c you said you like pretty faces in response to my comment lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 01:02 AM
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My standards aren't high at all. I see better looking men all the time. They aren't as tall or as famous as him with his pedigree though. It's a classic case of people overrating him b/c they have little discernment or b/c of his halos. Ask most non-white people. And his brother Bill looks absolutely better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:58 AM
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Except there are men with much prettier faces of all heights. I see guys who look like him without his height or fame multiple times a day, if not an hour. At least a few who work at the Whole Foods down the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:55 AM
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Even in his prime, just looking at his face he looks like a decent looking skinny kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:52 AM
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For what my opinion is worth as a straight dude, I agree. And I don't think his so-called Steve Buscemi eyes are bad at all and if anything make him look unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:46 AM
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Relative to other species, that's true. But it still matters in subtle amounts. My point still stands, Skarsgard isn't pretty or facially aesthetic enough that if he was 5'8" he would still be a stunner or even the best looking guy in a classroom, much less if he wasn't a movie star. I do know a few men in real life who do fit that bill though. One of them really hit the lottery and is well over 6 feet but the others are like 5'8" to 5'11"ish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:44 AM
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I agree. Just goes to further my point. Face matters but only a fraction of the degree most people (usually blackpillers) think online.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 12:21 AM
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Daily reminder to the "it's all about the face" pillers: height, status, and phenotype are insane halos. Perfect example is Alexander Skarsgard. Face is fine, probably cute and handsome even despite not having much dimorphism. He's almost universally regarded as a unanimously prized gigachad 10 in celebrity terms because he's famous, swedish and 6'4" with a decent lean lithe body. Fangirls almost universally swooned over him in True Blood and said Stephen Moyer's character was ugly or boring whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 11:52 PM
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The reason men do this is in reaction to the much much larger and more mainstream and acceptable practice - to consistently tell men who struggle with dating that they are struggling because they are hateful and disrespectful and to dance around the other reasons because it's convenient and the finger-pointers don't want to look like hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 10:03 PM
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I would say this to anyone but you seem especially vulnerable and unstable so here goes: Take everything you read online - from men or women - with a huge chunk of salt. Honestly from the all the absolutely delusional and mentally ill shit - the sheer amount of massively upvoted garbage takes from morons who are 100% confident in what they type - I see on Reddit, this sub is actually not nearly as bad, which says a lot. I would avoid internet activity as much as possible and seek therapy and int…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 09:01 PM
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That is b/c status and preselection matter an incredible amount to women. Even from the spot of anonymity behind a computer or phone screen, many women don't actually feel or express any attraction unless the guy is already established in his fame or works and widely appreciated by other people - read: esp other women. That's also why between all the Chris Hemsworth and Jason Momoa posts you get obscure no-name men on there who are very attractive but get comparatively very few responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:09 PM
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Are you a woman? Your face is average? If you aren't fat and put in minimal effort into your grooming and dress you should have literally zero problems meeting men. The only caveats are 1) your personality is batshit insane or you have severe mental issues and 2) you only care about the top men. Even these traits or being overweight don't stop many women from finding men since there are COUNTLESS women out there with these problems who do just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 08:00 PM
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But the majority of incels ARE misogynistic. Based on what? Are you defining incels as men who have no success in dating or sex, or the men who post regularly on incel shithole forums? Also to reiterate, this doesn't counter the fact that plenty of toxic shitheads have absolutely zero problem dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:06 PM
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The amount of men who would be irredeemably unattractive and undatable even after getting in shape and fixing their hair, skin and style - alongside hobbies and social skills - is very low. The easiest and most unfortunate way for men to fall into this category is to be very short - because it's not their fault and there's nothing they can do about it. The amount of women who fall into this irredeemable category is even lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 09:57 PM
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I think there is a useful gray area when telling men the reality of things if they ask about why they aren't successful with women. We don't want to encourage manipulative behavior but also shouldn't be saying essentially that they are struggling because they aren't nice enough, or suggest perhaps they are being too toxic - conveniently ignoring the fact that toxicity can actually be very effective. The reality is a lot of men chronically single are incompetent socially. Men just feel lied to as…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:38 AM
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The “pros” you mention are only applicable to women with very low self esteem or mental health issues That's many if not most women these days, so this is hardly a limitation, Similar to shitty women purposely using their looks on men. Many men are too weak-willed and starved to not let it affect them or turn it down in the face of glaring red flags. But I agree it's manipulative and therefore wrong. Doesn't mean it won't work or isn't objectively an effective strategy - the elephant in the room…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 03:15 AM
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What makes you think I have a solution lol. World's fucked. Exercise usually helps but it's rarely enough for the mentally fucked up terminally online men you're referring to. This isn't even getting into the men who overdo it and their exercise, workout and glowup goals actually end up being a net negative on their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:53 PM
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The amount of fit, disciplined men online with extreme BDD and mental health in the gutter beg to differ. If only mental health was solved with post-exercise endorphins and gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:44 PM
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and then see how many donuts he can hang off of it. Anything less than 3 1/2 it's a no go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:43 PM
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Both men and women have their phases where they just want to go out and have fun, but from observation the vast majority of women at any given point in their lives having sex with men who aren't their SOs are usually doing so b/c they are in the process of finding a boyfriend or husband. I feel like you read too much into what I wrote. If anything it justifies women having casual sex because for the most part they usually aren't doing it just because they are whoring it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:30 PM
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The equivalent of the spinster cat lady...the capybara bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:23 PM
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Specifically I don't think the situation you describe is that common. More likely you'll get some women in a certain phase in life, having casual sex with men they find readily physically attractive - but with ultimately the goal of snagging one in a relationship; At the same time she'll entertain less realistic options, orbiters or men she doesn't find attractive as backup plans - as in not necessarily turn them down explicitly, still respond once in a while, take the attention etc. It's a much…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:21 PM
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ikr
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:18 PM
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A very small minority of men rape women and now all men are responsible. At least the blame toward women isn't in the form of multiple campaigns on national and international levels? Literally any criticism toward women is shouted down as incel whining in every single mainstream sphere imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 06:15 PM
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You shouldn't trust people in general. I defend men often here b/c on a dating sub that's the perspective I'll take but unless a man is my friend I don't give a fuck about him. The argument(s) are strictly abstract or objective as a mental exercise. In all honesty I'm probably the male version of those women who seem to defend women constantly but IRL don't trust women or hate women equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 07:33 AM
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Yeah no, bluepilled men are still fucking everywhere. At the gym I'll overhear even the bro'iest of guys talking about how so-and-so is a good person despite struggling with dating success, that he just needs to be patient and good things will happen. 'Das my boi fr fr bro he a good dude he don't deserve what happened but fr good things happen to those who wait bro how many more sets u got left'
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 05:46 AM
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Jacob Elordi is what you'd get if Timothee Chalamet ate a gigachad mario mushroom lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 10:15 PM
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So many women have told me they wouldn't even know what to do if a man approached them and that approaching is "weird" like it's some alien thing to them. Socially retarded is correct. The pandemic didn't help. This hurt men much more ultimately because social skills and proof are much more important for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 05:24 PM
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If high value top tier women want them then that makes rich men high value. And it goes without saying, if he's a complete goblin or 85 years old it makes things different sure, but assuming he's at least average elsewhere a rich man is no doubt high value. It's irrelevant that it's the money that sells him. All factors that contribute to the visceral attraction women feel for a man are shallow whether it be looks, money, status, intelligence, or power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:43 AM
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Which is why femcels aren't a thing at all. They just refuse to date the guys willing to commit to them. Aside from a miniscule percentage of the population who is just very unlucky physically, there is no issue finding sex. And no issue finding relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:39 AM
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My personal theory is that if someone isn’t married or has had a baby by 35 it’s a good sign that they likely never will. You must be 12 years old or something. To someone your age 35 is downright ancient.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:06 AM
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There will always be a man desperate enough to commit. But for women, not getting the men they want to commit might as well be the same as having no men willing to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 12:16 AM
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Misandry has always been popular and seen as 'harmless', esp back before feminism did its thing eg men or husbands seen as useless bumbling idiots. Women were objectified and men had individuality but it was fine to take a crack at them or all of manhood. Now that the tides have turned this misandry should no longer be as okay anymore but it has remained acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:02 PM
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Makes sense, but as far as I know no fault divorce is still allowed basically everywhere right? You said something about how they shouldn't have gotten rid of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:56 AM
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Isn't no-fault divorce a big reason why modern marriage carries little weight? You can just separate for no valid reason if you feel like it e.g. the trope of women standing to gain from breaking the contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 03:22 AM
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I think feminists and redpillers come in many shades of gray, but the most polarized thinkers are more likely to be the outspoken and prolific online posters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:49 AM
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Not really pertinent to the OP but was talking to this girl earlier from a parasocial circle (? lol) and she just casually brings up that she's getting a divorce. She didn't sound unhappy or crushed, she was actually cheerful, but I know masking is a thing. Weird since she's said nothing but great things about their marriage and also she's like 20 and has been married less than a year. Just one more time people prove to me that wedding vows just aren't taken as seriously as they used to be - for…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:59 PM
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Looksmaxxed by working out, styling my hair, face leaned out, skin cleared up, worked on my social skills by just forcing myself to interact with people. I feel like I read people pretty well but I might read too much into things, but it's this skill that makes me seem to be able to say and behave in ways that people approve of or appreciate. I noticed the difference in how people and women treated me now vs when I didn't ever comb my hair, mumbled constantly, acted cringe, dressed in oversized …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 10:21 PM
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Yea sure man, why didn't I think of that. The key is to make sure she actually wants to be with me too when we start, that way there is no risk of the relationship going sour! /s Anyway it's been real thx for the pep talk dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:26 PM
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I do tend to have a fear of women that supercedes my actual experiences. I think overall women have been generally good to me but that was only after I got my shit together in college. I can't seem to have forgotten what they were like before, and also I'm hypersensitive to social cues so I see what people are like to each other IRL in addition to working jobs that put me in contact with tons of people every day. It doesn't necessarily have to be happening to me for it to make me jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:21 PM
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There's a clear difference in the bond I feel between a woman I'm just seeing casually versus a woman I'm committed to. In any case, I've never lost a lot of money or child custody in a divorce. I've never been mandated to pay a certain amount every month to a woman I hate now, or been forced to move out of my place into a shittier one b/c I can no longer afford it. I don't need to have been in those reeds to know that I won't want to experience any of it. Your "just move on" tough guy mentality…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:12 PM
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Dudes who pull easily may also want commitment somewhere down the line, and when this commitment goes sour the complications are potentially extensive and hard hitting financially, legally, socially, emotionally, logistically. It's not about finding another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:04 PM
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I mean clearly it's better to be a sexually successful man. But I think this type of fear or caution these men feel when they come to understand women is fairly widespread. Also some people just don't like taking risks, almost to a pathological degree. But yes I would agree to your points.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:56 PM
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Heh. Dare I say user flair checks out amazingly. But in all seriousness it's ironic b/c most men watch porn whether they are in relationships or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:52 PM
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Edit: Although I feel if a woman is also just giving men glances and purposely raising the pitch of their voice or giving light touches to male peers and telling themselves it's harmless since there's no sex involved, that doesn't bode well for the relationship either. And as bad as actual sexual cheating is, the latter is extremely [much more] common. I don't know if it's just nature being shitty, or if it's a sign of the times and how unhappy and unsatisfied everyone is or what.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:50 PM
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So it does seem like this is a lot of women's interpretation of male psychology as well. If he jerks it to porn or fucks another woman it's b/c of fleeting and expected horniness whereas emotional cheating singles a deeper type of betrayal where he gives another woman the intimate or romantic connection meant for her. Your 2nd paragraph does make good sense,
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:44 PM
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Right. But if you ask a group of men you wouldn't get anyone saying emotional cheating is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:42 PM
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Absolutely I do lol. And yeah almost everyone else here.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:40 PM
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Is this b/c men view sexual cheating as the ultimate betrayal vs women, who feel emotional cheating is actually worse? I've actually surprisingly heard this from a lot of women. Even if they disagree, they say things like "But I get it why some women would think that though."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:34 PM
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Then why not continue to just keep playing the field instead of committing? If the relationship fails you can attain another but you still lost a lot of time and resources - esp if your goal is to start a family or an entire family is affected - and probably experienced heartbreak and harm to mental health. If it's a divorce we're talking a lot of financial, legal and social costs. Being able to quickly get another woman was never the issue. Edit: I think both successful and unsuccessful men hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:30 PM
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There was discussion earlier about sexually successful men being paranoid b/c their experiences have made them fear if they commit to a woman she'll cheat on him as well. Yet statistically speaking if you combine all the age demographics together, overall men cheat more than women. However, does it make a difference or even things out that cheating usually is defined as sex - and subtle behavioral changes and flirtation or conversation don't count? Or that among ages below 30, when women have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:25 PM
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Hand holding is probably at least half a step further...but if things like regular flirtation and suggestive remarks constitute cheating - and you have a point there - then it's a helluva lotta women. Enough women to make men afraid as I say, to commit to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:19 PM
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I would love to know how they rationalize this in their brain that it’s ok to do They tell themselves - and maybe others if pressed - that it's just harmless flirtation. Or that it's nothing...that you've misinterpreted simple kindness and being nice for something more. Over time they begin to believe it themselves. The key is, if it's just being nice and harmless and absolutely nothing, why does their behavior change completely when their SO is actually around? No more light touches, googly eye…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:15 PM
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I would love to know how they rationalize this in their brain that it’s ok to do They tell themselves - and maybe others if pressed - that it's just harmless flirtation. Or that it's nothing...that you've misinterpreted simple kindness and being nice for something more. Over time they begin to believe it themselves. The key is, if it's just being nice and harmless and absolutely nothing, why does their behavior change completely when their SO is actually around? As you say, I don't necessarily d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 03:15 PM
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I'm curious what is the rationale or appeal to these men. If you're going to be manipulative, why specifically target women who are taken. Seems like it would be extra work and obstacles because it's just more [big] reasons why the man wouldn't succeed. I'm sure a lot of it is deep psychological trauma-related shit I don't understand like why abused people continue to return to or seek out even new abusive partners. Like you said, maybe these guys have a MO that works well with women in shit sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 02:03 AM
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Couldn't you also say that women don't have the chance to showcase their personality either until a guy decides to approach her? Seems like there is a looks threshold for both sides but due to the established initial dynamic in dating it's the woman (eg guy walks over 'hey how u doin' lol) who has the final say of whether things are to proceed further.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 01:57 AM
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These guys are obviously gutter trash, but ultimately it's on the woman to realize what the man is trying to do and respond accordingly. The guy can try to destroy the relationship all he wants but he absolutely cannot unless the woman ultimately lets it happen, even if it's a gradual process. I'd say the same thing if it was a woman trying to actively destroy a relationship by trying to get with a married man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:54 PM
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Did I word that incorrectly, I mean if the man was the one who was married and he cheated on his wife with say a woman coworker, I'd blame him more than the coworker as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:51 PM
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For whatever reason if you ask me if I like feminine women I'll say of course, because I do like femininity overall. But in practice the most hyperfeminine features or women are never my first choice eg too soft looking or lacking muscle tone. I remember a while back it was all the rage for a lot of conservative alt-right manospherians to gas up Kristin Kreuk. Absolutely no appeal there, she looks like an alien child, but it's what a lot of these men go for it seems...at least at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:48 PM
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Continuing on with the scumbag men who fuck women already in relationships or marriages. Obviously both parties are shitty people. But wouldn't it make sense to blame the person in the relationship even more? They are the ones directly breaking the vow of trust. They weigh what they currently have, all their investment, memories, established rapport and everything they've built with their SO, and decide to throw it away or that at least it's less important than this new dick of opportunity they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 08:45 PM
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It's widely known women prefer some element of femininity in a guy's face like maybe large expressive eyes, full lips, smooth skin etc. but for the straight men are there any masculine features that make you more sexually or visually attracted to some women? The first one for me would be a little bit of definition or angularity in the face, but with women in general I still say some fullness and sufficient facial fat is obviously preferred. But the second supposedly weirder one is broad shoulder…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:40 PM
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I'm seriously wondering where a lot of people here live if the average plain Jane is a 300 lb woman on a scooter. Are you in the rural south or...? Like if that was where I lived I might be complaining constantly too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:34 PM
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No sympathy for scumbag homewreckers...but it takes two to tango always =) One scumbag wrecks 10 homes, that's 1 scumbag and 10 unfaithful shitty women. Also guilt has nothing to do with it. It's the pragmatic experience-based caution and fear, if women are so quick to cheat given the right technique or approach, women are untrustworthy as long term partners - again, according to their train of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 06:24 PM
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For the record I think there are marked behavioral differences between men and women although there's something to be said for everyone being the 'same' at their core with the same needs and wants, just different superficial avenues of behavior to achieve their goals. But men are also brought up to believe women are different and 'better' so ideally while they come around to realize things with time in the real world, it's not surprising that young men who lack relative life experience are taken…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:22 AM
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I think the particular difference in this context is that the cynicism and disgust breeds within men who enjoy sexual and romantic success with many women. But frankly these men just have a lucky front row seat, I think this type of female behavior is readily observable from anywhere in the stands eg men who aren't as lucky or men who struggle just by watching how people act. No doubt women may have similar observational experiences when watching men. People know nobody's perfect, but they reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:04 PM
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It's not necessarily an unwillingness to take the high road, but that due to these men's experiences and observations the high road is no longer perceived as safe even if they decided to take it. There might be some tunnel vision going on esp if men are just targeting promiscuous women, but many of these men can't see women in the same way anymore, find them overly shallow, fickle and untrustworthy. That's the real damage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:06 PM
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When many men become successful with women, they often become jaded, even depressed after realizing how cut and dry it is with what works on most women. And the problem isn't that they can't just find one woman to commit to or can't stop being a fuckboy, it's that they don't feel they are able to trust women anymore as committed SOs or respect women as people. They know how readily women cheat or flirt with other men when their husbands or bfs aren't around because they played that role countles…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 09:01 PM
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Because social status, standing, and proof are actual ignitors of genuine attraction in women when appraising men. Again just look at the men women gather to rave and gush over. Random no-name models no matter how goodlooking rarely get any attention or comments in the ladyboners sub, a place allegedly for eye candy. It's always the famous men, even if a little old and wrinkly or dweeby looking, with established fanbases, bodies of work, talents, even notoriety.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:36 AM
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That's because preselection only works when it comes to men attracting women and when women see other women liking and enjoying the company of the same man. A man's social standing and proof matters a lot more to women not only logically but viscerally and reflexively, than vice versa. Preselection is the most legit thing the redpill has ever pushed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 01:25 AM
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Money is strongly associated with power, opportunity, comfort, freedom and so on. The way the modern world works, there's little difference in how money and power are interpreted and received IRL in most cases. It's like arguing weight and mass are different but still dealing with things on planet earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:10 PM
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Right. But there are omega supps as well ofc. Just makes me wonder, obviously a lot of people or nutritional authorities will tell you it's best to eat whole foods, but is the bulk of nutritional and health needs truly easily covered just by spending less than 50 bucks on a collection of supplements that can last you months? Even if it may not be the "best" way to go about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:01 PM
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I eat eggs a lot of the time b/c I just like them. The health benefits and protein are almost a bonus even if I know there are more efficient manmade sources out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:45 PM
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Inspired by egg comment earlier. I said eating egg yolk along with the egg white is worth the higher fat content b/c of the vitamin A and D, extra B vitamins, folate choline etc etc but I wonder if it's just better to take supplements, which is what I've been doing anyway. The popular conventional answer is that getting your vitamins from whole natural occurring foods is ideal but I wonder just how much difference it makes. Things like A, B vitamins and folate are obviously incredibly cheap and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:40 PM
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Yeah but the yolk also has Vitamin A, D, B vitamins, folate, choline etc and gives health benefits the egg white doesn't have; the yolk also tastes the best lol. There's arguably much less point in eating eggs if you are just eating whites because you can easily get just protein elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:37 PM
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As far as natural foods go, it's still one of the best most bioavailable sources of protein for how few calories it is. It's proportionally even more fat, yes, but I don't think that's relevant. I'm pretty indifferent to fat although I know healthy fats are important - I think keto or low-carb proselytizers are insufferable - but palatability speaking I would rather eat eggs than chicken breasts. I remember at one point trying to eat 2-3 bags of white chicken meat a day and realized I'd have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:30 PM
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Because they are proportion to their caloric content as far as natural whole foods go. Obviously they won't be as high compared to the protein powders we have now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:18 PM
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No prob. And yeah I've done a lot of lurking. Glad I got out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:26 AM
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I'd say it's more miss than hit. One of the problems with Reddit isn't necessarily that everyone is stupid (although stupidity is also a problem), it's that it encourages polarized and hiveminded thinking and is obviously worse in certain subs - again the gender-centered or political ones. There are entire subs where the majority of the userbase is just fucking awful. Unpopular comments are buried so you don't get any diverse discourse and toxicity is often upvoted and made the norm. The comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:14 AM
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Seriously, is this your response? Literally everything you write has "I am 14 and this is very deep" vibes. Please stay on Reddit the world is better for it if your ideas don't leave here lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:06 AM
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You may get some intelligent arguments here and there, but there is also a shit-ton of garbage and bias to the point where there's no way I could say it's a "good" platform for discussion - like calling a table clean when it's at least half dirty. Some subs are a LOT "dirtier" than others eg the political and gender-based ones, the edgelord meme ones. I would just say that it is a platform that allows one to conveniently engage in discourse and interact with different communities on any number o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 12:24 AM
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I'll be honest, aside from just wasting time or some mental masturbation entertaining ideas or very basic hobby-related questions, I have really yet to find a genuinely useful, insightful post on Reddit. At best it's just "yea sure that's fair" and at worst, well, I don't need to draw a picture. The best I get out of this place is random banter. I really don't know why you think Reddit is somehow the place where great minds exert their influence in molding conventional thought. High IQ? I take i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:42 PM
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It's very sad a lot of people here are taking what's going on on reddit to be what's going on in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:37 PM
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Yeah nobody exists in a bubble obviously. But the way you said it was like the reddit hivemind is the hub of conventional thought in the world or something, which it (thankfully) is not. Reddit isn't real life, b/c it takes specific types of people to post on these subs regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:29 PM
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Just trying to understand how this all started, Reddit is around 18 years and I think it's the nest of our collective hivemind. No, I am actually pretty thankful opinions on reddit are not reflective of real life. Reddit selects for the neurotic, divergent, socially incompetent, undermedicated, unstable, and obsessive. And you can include me under neurotic and obsessive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 08:15 PM
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Misread, thought he said 50-65%. You seem nice lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 07:01 PM
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Of course they are naturally attracted. People in the league above are by definition better looking or richer. Absolute no-brainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:36 PM
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> wonder if this is why up to like 50% of 65+ women are apparently single So I keep hearing this but this must only apply to women over 50 or something. How many remotely normal ass women under 30 are single aside from the ones just clearly out for a good time?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:34 PM
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It's pretty frickin obvious too. The eyes widen and exude fire and warmth. I can only imagine what it's like for men with actually good/better bodies. I am told constantly that my face is good but my body is shit lol. They'll also ask to touch abs or arms but abs on a skinny guy doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 05:04 PM
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Yeah women keep saying they like feminine men and I absolutely don't see it. At best they'll date long-term a kind of a feminine guy and be ok with it b/c he has other qualities but I've never seen the type of rabid enthusiasm (eg swooning, giggling, fawning) like when seen with a traditional tall athletic masculine dude they just met or see in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:59 PM
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One of the biggest lies and delulu here is when women say they don't care about muscles, mUsCleS R GrOsS or muscles don't matter. Women catch glimpses and stare at my arms constantly, it's the only decent part of my otherwise shit skinny body. Maybe b/c they are just surprised cos it don't match, I dunno lolol. But even then when straight women are being honest (eg female friends) they almost universally agree they love it. When out with women friends if there's ever a time they giggle and whisp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 04:50 PM
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So what do you make of all this modern research about straight women preferring at least some femininity in their men, physically and personality-wise? On the one hand I can kind of see the validity but on the other hand I've been blackpilled by way too many women - female friends who basically took me aside to tell me what women who aren't ashamed of their sexuality actually like, which is the dominant masculine archetype. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but I'm looking for accurate…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/23 06:03 AM
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Right, it's nice to have the woman express how attracted they are to us and it enhances the mood but it's not in any way a requirement to turn us on. Male sexuality isn't reactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:23 AM
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No, the absolute undeniable worst is when an educated intelligent altruistic 25 year old who just landed a job helping the environment dies right before impregnating his wife because he was planning to start an entire family and teach his children how to be responsible contributing members of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:47 AM
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Yeah so? I said as much in my comment. Edit: Ah the twink thing. Well yeah, it's just what I look like, a lot of people think I'm gay. But I'm not, and even if you don't believe me, there's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay so.......I'm not insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:37 AM
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No, they just have a myriad of mental problems not limited to autism, body dysmorphia, OCD, disordered eating and anxiety. I used to be obsessed with looksmaxxing as well and analyzing the faces of models..the remark about "heheh looks like you're a closeted gay and more obsessed with these Chads than women are" is useless in that it's straight up untrue, homophobic and also not even an insult. A lot of these men have even remarked how much easier it is to attract men and joked about wishing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:33 AM
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Agree
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 10:38 PM
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It's not rocket science. I doubt most players and fuckboys sleep around b/c it's a consolation prize to a committed relationship out of their reach. That's simply what they want, not to mention "keeping a harem" is much harder for men than finding a gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:21 PM
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Risky words for 2023 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:20 PM
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LOL the feared and mighty sigma male. For men who wanted to be alpha but realized they'll never be alpha so they can invent a category that makes them too cool to be alpha that meshes well with their socially isolated status and lives. EvEn ThE AlPhA FeArS Me I LiVe In ThE ShAdOwS
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:08 PM
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Which means he loses, and alphas don't lose [much], so he's not alpha...assuming you care about that sort of ranking system that applies more to wolves (but not really even).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 09:03 PM
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My understanding of alpha is different than a lot of ideas people in the manosphere seem to have. Alpha men in their absolutely polarized ideal definition are pillars of their communities, respected and liked by everyone (including other men) because they have the power, resources, competence to play an important role in the glue that holds everything together. A family in the village is in trouble, the alpha guy steps in through his available channels to help out. They don't do dickhead things …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:55 PM
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Probably. Many of these feminists are radfems or TERFs who just aggressively hate anything that is male or originally male. I always break out the popcorn when they fight with the intersectional lib-fem SJW woke variety. Better entertainment than many movies nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:41 PM
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So do you notice this lack of social skills in many more men than you do with women? In your OP you bring up the context of "stimulating a woman's mind" which makes me wonder if you expect (or don't) expect women to do the same to men. In the end men are not only the ones expected to demonstrate social proof but also because of this I think social skill prowess or detriment would also be more apparent and noticeable in men than women as a result.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:39 AM
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Covid lockdowns stunted the social skills development and/or prowess of both men and women, especially younger people just coming into their 20s. The difference is social incompetence hurts men a lot more in dating than it does women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:51 AM
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In the same way a man being short is not a red flag, women don't feel threatened or caution, they just straight up aren't attracted to short men, in the same way inexperience or ugliness is also a turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:23 AM
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Too many men place their self worth in the crumbling idea of masculinity and women. Along with your own standards as an example, it's not so much that the idea of masculinity is crumbling or that these men are misguided in placing their worth there, it's that it's become harder pragmatically, realistically, for men to exercise masculinity in the modern day setting due to higher cost of living, stagnating wages and women outearning their male peers, social media and physical standards perhaps, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 04:46 AM
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It's completely different when female radical feminists - furiously denouncing gender norms and with a stake against the causes of 4th wave intersectional feminists such as trans-rights - latch on to some masculine traits and conservative talking points versus a garden variety man in the modern day who identifies as a feminist. It's certainly "possible" for a masculine conservative man to be openly feminist. It's just rare b/c again, modern mainstream feminism constantly challenges conservative …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:44 PM
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Which..promotes fat women. In marketing you can't do one and avoid the other. That's why for example a conservative consumer base might get upset if their favorite restaurant chain starts to put up rainbow flags in their establishments. You can argue that the company is just trying to expand their market to make more money, but that doesn't mean they also aren't sending a message that certain lifestyles are acceptable or should be embraced - something their base vehemently opposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:26 PM
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I can't think of anyone but conservative YouTuber Brett Cooper came to mind as a consideration. In the modern era her views are considered bigoted, (insert group here) -phobic or whatever but she seems wholesome with a good head on her shoulders and exercises fairness when approaching issues. Obviously I don't expect anyone left of center to agree since the norm is so far-left nowadays. She isn't 'perfect' and hasn't done anything 'amazing' but she ticks off all my boxes for being good friend ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:20 PM
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A man can be a feminist and masculine or conservative, they're not contradictory. Yes, but I think in this day and age, there's a difference between someone who happens to agree with some feminist talking points versus a man who outright goes out of his way to tell people he is a feminist. It's these types of men who are less likely to display traditional masculine traits and conservative beliefs because such a core part of modern feminism and the political climate is challenging traditional gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:05 PM
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Bro I don't even want to look after children like they are children. They are slow, inexperienced, potentially spoiled, a burden, entitled and immune to logic. and society mandates us, somewhat understandably, to help and cater to them. It isn't their fault really, but just b/c individuals - if we are to just assume the OP premise of women being like children, have these traits it doesn't make me or others want or feel any obligation to give them extra time, lenience and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:49 PM
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Maybe some people just have trouble compartmentalizing but I often feel the extreme in the opposite direction where the physical and sexual desireability of someone has little to nothing to do with how I see them as people or how much I enjoy their company. There may be some sexual tension or latent desire with my hot friends but I don't behave toward or treat them in a way such that ultimately I'll be able to fuck them. There's all types of tension and awkwardness and suppressed issues between …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:43 PM
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Your argument only works if ethics and trust don't matter. If they do matter, none of your argument is relevant. Life isn't fair, but again if you're fine with people being pieces of shit to compensate for being at a disadvantage, well at least you aren't a hypocrite is the best I can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 07:27 AM
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As long as you support cheating for men at any point in their lives they are not in their prime or past their prime. Otherwise, pretty sure cheating is looked down upon as a general rule b/c it's a betrayal of trust and nothing else matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:47 AM
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Women believe in astrology but say men are immature for playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 05:09 AM
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Women don't like random men hitting on them, but they also wouldn't like "women only" dance clubs because they still like the idea or possibility of HVM hitting on them. In the same way women doll up because of the possible attention and validation of desireable men. "We wear makeup/go clubbing for ourselves" will always be a lie. In actuality even validation from mediocre or undesireable men is "welcome" as long as the women don't have to deal with them directly. They like the fact that these b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:34 AM
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I'm from California. My geography and knowledge of other states sucks. But out of all the people I know who moved out west Ohio comes up a lot which seems random. People say it's b/c Ohio sucks and everyone wants to leave but you can say that about a lot of states, so I don't know why so many people are from there, and not say like Texas, New Mexico, Utah or Oklahoma or anywhere in the South or the great plains area. Arizona is another random state where people leave a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:17 AM
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I'm not in the midwest but my mom used to just add cheese to everything to make it better. Presumably still does. My friend is from the midwest and I asked her what she had for thanksgiving and she was listing off all this shit and I said "No green bean casserole?" and she goes "I mean ofc we had that yeah" so I just assume it's a staple there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:11 AM
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Picking a fight with a girl at the bonfire party one night who looked wrong at your guy and the next morning you wake up and you're competing with Lydia for best green bean casserole. That's my impression of 25 vs 26 in the midwest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:03 AM
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What do you mean by getting information out of people. There are some guys who women just genuinely like being around b/c they're good socially and make everyone feel involved and comfortable. Doesn't mean they are necessarily arrogant d-bags, although that type also doesn't seem to struggle romantically. In any case I guess maybe you're just different from a lot of women. Like the mysterious goth girl in the corner casting spells on people and hissing. As a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 05:36 AM
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I think there is a significant difference in how women process two different things: Just knowing or hearing that a guy sleeps around and is unfaithful. and Seeing a guy who visibly has a lot of women competing for his attention or clearly enjoying his company. The funny thing is most healthy rational-minded women will be turned off by the former but when they are in a situation described in the latter, it's a different story entirely and the 2nd guy will ignite interest in many other surroundin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:48 AM
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Preselection is the most legit thing Redpillers ever talk about, and I think they get a lot of things wrong. There are few things that attract women faster than seeing or knowing that a man already has a lot of other women into him (or a long history of success with women).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:21 AM
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Are you like the alterna April O'Neil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:10 AM
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If you read between the lines, purge week really isn't all that different from what all the dysfunctional motherfuckers already say here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:09 AM
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Same with bodycount. A man with a high bodycount is a high value stud. A woman with a high bodycount is the opposite. I'm not going to say this is entirely okay, but different standards and expectations for men and women exist for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:07 AM
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jus sayin maybe this year to save you from tears give your fart to someone special
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 02:00 AM
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gonna need a bigger anchor for that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:55 AM
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"I've won...but at what cost?"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:47 AM
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That's something about women I've just accepted but still can't get. Ultimately we're just wired differently, female sexuality is less raw physical and visual and more mental and emotional associations. A large dick attached to a man she cares about or is invested in is magnificent and to be worshipped. That exact same dick attached to either a stranger or a guy she hates is the most repulsive thing in the world. Aside from being a dude, it's additionally difficult to understand b/c I think thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:34 AM
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Reminds me of the sad guy meme where she says "The big ones hurt, yours is perfect.."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:31 AM
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That last part was ridiculous yeah. But you can't expect anyone to care about the inequality of anything if they are benefitting from it period, including when feminists lecture men about any advantages men have. End thread. And yeah this applies to all types of inequality and marginalization. Telling someone "well that's about poverty and bodily autonomy and longevity and social programs and this is just about dating" isn't going to convince anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:45 PM
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It's similar to how men assume bitter unpleasant women either are perpetually single and own a lot of cats or will own a lot of cats and be perpetually single. But you can trust women who love to lecture men about the ills of toxic masculinity and how sexual prowess isn't a measure of worth, will turn around and call the men they dislike loser virgins with small dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:36 PM
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I agree with all this. Why do people simplify it down to "Well only the shitty unsuccessful men no one wants need sexbots so who cares". It's the epitome of near-sighted and limited ability to think and cognitively process these types of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:23 AM
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Maybe. But I don't see very many single women at all. Granted most women I know are under 35. Doesn't seem like either way, women are having trouble finding a guy they like nor do they have qualms settling if they can't do the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:13 AM
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Well I mean I assume the single rate for younger women gets lower as you lower the age, with the converse happening to men. The highest percentage of single people is young men under 30 and older (like over 65) women. 30-49 probably is just more of a middle-ground cross-section without insufficient or excessive age being too much of a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:11 AM
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There was a stat mentioned from a linked article that said by 2030 (that's only 6 years away) 45% of women aged 25-44 will be single. I just don't see it happening. I know a lot of people and I can't think of a woman in that rough age range who isn't in a relationship. If they aren't, they are temporarily in between relationships. I feel like women who are perpetually single and under 40 have some unique shit going on. But maybe my observations and circles aren't a good representative...but here…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 01:00 AM
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As a result, they ignore dozens, hundreds, thousands of good men for not meeting that standard. Conversely, the men who do meet that standard are fundamentally less likely to be good men What's hard to understand there?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:35 AM
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I'm a guy, but my tastes have changed multiple times due to pop culture. I also grew up sheltered. The women I would not have looked at twice are close to my ideal now and a lot if it has to do with media and environmental exposure. Sometimes I wonder if my preferences were the most "real" or "genuine" when I was growing up with minimal access to internet or TV but that doesn't really exist in a vacuum either. I remember being very confused about the people or celebs my peers would drool over an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:15 AM
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My contempt is mainly directed toward liberals who are unable to stfu about supporting the homeless with their multiple-pronged social justice campaigns and virtue signaling, but through their individual actions it's clear they don't live up to their prescriptions of empathy and kindness. And oh yeah, also show that they actually, don't really, like the homeless in contrast to what they preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:07 AM
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Bluepill is mainstream wisdom and advice. Almost all mainstream dating advice tells men struggling to fix their personality, be less toxic, get their finances and responsibilities together. If bluepill didn't think any of this worked, this wouldn't be the majority of their dating advice content - or they are lying, but it's still their advice. Redpill came about in response to bluepill mainstream advice b/c men felt the things they were told every day since birth were not working, not vice versa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 12:00 AM
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That's not just world fallacy b/c you still need money and stability. There's nothing inherently just about wealth. Anyway, money and status absolutely can change things b/c women (and men) can feel their attraction change for someone based on those things. It's not either/or. Most people aren't either a hell yeah or repulsive. You mentioned autism in another post being a dealbreaker which is true, but you only mentioned physical attractiveness as the sole factor to begin with. To reiterate, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:54 PM
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Isn't the guy you are specifically talking about lacking in physical attractiveness? The implication is that mediocre to subpar looks can't be compensated with anything else, which you yourself don't even seem to believe. You aren't bluepill, you just label yourself as such b/c you don't like what the RP and BP men say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:28 PM
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As a blue-pilled woman, you should know relationships where a man's main draw is his financial stability and status (and sure, throw in a decent personality) are extremely commonplace even if he isn't that great looking. Again, we're not talking about prostitution or the girlfriend experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:21 PM
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The men are still getting sex and often times a relationship if not marriage and family. I'm not talking about prostitutes. Unless the man is a complete chump he's not just paying for dinner and getting nothing in return. So money changes the game. A lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:17 PM
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In blue-pill (conventional mainstream wisdom) you can win any woman over if you're nice and kind and caring and have a stable job. Since you seem to think women are agreeing to go out for dinner with mediocre to ugly men and then leaving to fuck Chad right after that's very much a red-pill if not blackpill sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:09 PM
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You're bluepill? In the bluepill world men with money get sex (and marriage) from women even if they are just desired for money. In the end the mating game is shallow whether you're desired for looks, money or status, their want for you is conditional on one of those things. Just like with $, the women who choose their men strictly based on looks or status are going to be the ones constantly checking out other men for looks and status and either they'll leave or the relationship will go to shit …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:51 PM
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Probably because the cardinal guideposts for traditional masculinity and femininity represent bullet points that, if followed to the letter, come across as extreme, burdensome and offputting. In practice they have value when followed as a general rule. I believe humans are also unique in that, unlike many other animals, the most extreme markers of femininity and masculinity are not necessarily regarded as the most attractive. In many other organisms for example, the most masculine traits are equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:40 PM
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A real man to them is someone who is attractive, able to keep the chemistry and sex alive and sizzling, while also catering to her needs and whims, while not knowing that it's this catering and ease of control and predictability that leads to loss of attraction and boredom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 06:32 PM
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The incel community(s) seem to worship squinty hunter eyes but out of all the guys I've seen women IRL drool or giggle over collectively I don't think any of the men, often tall, built goodlooking and well-dressed, have had them. It's almost always a softer looking dude with larger almost feminine eyes but usually good bone structure otherwise. The few women I've asked have said they find the deepset hooded eyes to be unfriendly or hostile looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 10:57 PM
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Women often report dressing sexy, and wearing makeup for themselves. Not for attention. Does there exist a single sane person who believes this? Do a lot of women dress sexy and don full warpaint only to stay inside? Are they posting photos on their insta to zero followers?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 08:10 PM
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There is a slight but significant difference. Women aren't necessarily told to settle for men they don't find attractive, but are told to lower their standards b/c they are too entitled and their standards have become artificially high due to OLD, social media and so on. E.g. a 6/10 woman refusing to consider men under a 7 b/c she gets sexual attention from 8+ Chads who ultimately won't wife her up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 07:41 PM
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Youth = beauty is true to an extent even though it's not like the incels here who like to call 20 year olds "post-wall" because they don't look like children anymore. With the right effort most women can look decent well into their 40s even if the peak is 20s or early 30s. That being said, maybe don't blame men as the motherfuckers running all these delusional makeup, glowup, vindicta rating sites and channels etc are....women or at least largely women. Must be nice to play the "it's the RP men'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 05:31 AM
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The fact that it's something so universally practiced changes things. You can certainly blame each and every individual person for being insecure but the argument becomes weaker if not pointless when you have such a huge sociological and environmental component involved; as it goes without saying this just doesn't apply to use of makeup. It's almost like saying wearing shoes is a sign of being soft and weak b/c people aren't able to tough it out. Certainly shoes have made us reliant on shoes and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 03:30 AM
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Desantis isn't going to be the GOP candidate so I guess we'll never know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:43 AM
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Just watched the last GOP debate. Why does DeSantis have the posture, fidgeting mannerisms and expressions of a sullen 5 year old, and Vivek is nothing if not entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:38 AM
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That percentage seems low. But also I can't imagine it being any lower or different historically...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:29 AM
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Fathers have always been cast as buffoons. It's just that nothing has changed as misandry from 4th wave feminism has increased and men are toxic and guilty til proven innocent. Before, this type of "harmless" misandry was something a lot more men could accept although tbf feminism was also a lot more necessary before b/c of the way women were treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 11:52 PM
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In the past a type of "harmless" misandry was accepted. As feminism was still in its early stages, women were still treated as 2nd class citizens and confined to certain spaces with men having most of the control, making the most money, in their provider roles etc. This type of misandry, alongside chivalry, the archetype of the bumbling stupid man or father for example, was kind of a concession and accepted by most people, including men with no complaints. While women were pedestalized they were…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:12 AM
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Dumb around your crush? Maybe if you're 15? I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 07:27 PM
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OP reminds me of the "Are women capable of love?" threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:37 AM
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15-20% bodyfat, good muscle tone, cardiovascular fitness, lean but not too defined or ripped. 20-25% is fine too but not my first preference. As with all things, preferences are the result of both environmental and biological factors. My own preferences shifted many times, overall from thin to not as thin back to thin again but still okay with not as thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 08:33 AM
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I used to prefer skinny, now I still prefer skinny or athletic, but am open to slightly curvier like 20-25%.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:32 PM
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Strawman post of the day by OP, nothing else to see here. While this sub does seem to be basically incel-lite central, the vast majority of men who complain here aren't complaining b/c they aren't the top, they are complaining b/c they believe the women in their league don't want them in favor of the top man. Honestly curious, can you cite even a single example of a comment here that is evidence of your grievance(s)?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 07:02 PM
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That's what 'the west' usually means. Not necessarily in the western hemisphere (eg latin american countries) but basically most modern white or mostly white countries. It's 50% on average in Europe as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:28 AM
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I know a lot of goodlooking men who land that first date but can't keep things going because they are shitty socially and have other baggage. That tells me looks are required to get in the door but not remotely enough for any type of solid relationship. I also don't think the threshold again is that high. Chad only? Again, have people been outside? All of this just tells me that looks matter but is clearly not #1.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:35 PM
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The looks threshold is not Chad level by any means, just take a look around. Minimal test scores are also required to get into many academic programs, if you think this translates to test scores being #1 there's no point in further conversation. If looks was the primary thing women looked for Beyonce - a very rich conventionally attractive woman with unlimited options - would not still be with Jay-Z.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:12 PM
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I"m a guy who mostly defends men and traditional values. That being said there are plenty of deluded seriously mental people on this sub male or female and I just call it like I see it. Honestly not just on reddit, or even online, but I've come to realize just how many people in the world are not fucking ok. I've stopped responding to people who seem too far gone. My reasoning is if they were open to basic logical responses they wouldn't have gotten to where they are in the first place, so I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:05 PM
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Needing to pass a looks threshold initially is not the same thing as looks being #1. If a woman agrees to go on a first date with a man b/c he's decent looking enough despite not quite being her type, but sticks with him b/c of his personality and humor, that means his personality and humor are #1. I don't know why people are unable to parse this. Obviously there is a looks threshold b/c obviously there needs to be some physical attraction. But a looks threshold does not mean Chad only. There ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:57 PM
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Fat people are a huge chunk if not majority of the postmodern population and most people shower and have basic hygiene, and have at least the drive and ethic to hold down jobs, some high paying prestigious and helpful to society. Understandable if you aren't attracted to them but let's not start attributing other bad traits to them just bc you're put off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:54 PM
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Leaving someone b/c you connect with someone better and b/c you lack connection with your current SO isn't hypergamy, it's just called leaving. Hypergamy specifically refers to consistently seeking someone of higher social standing, and what determines social standing shifts over time and throughout history depending upon location as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:57 PM
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Yeah, but to most women better doesn't necessarily mean better looking. Everyone wants a "better looking' partner but in the minds of women consciously or unconsciously it's an emphasis on social standing, status, the quality of life he can provide. This sub talks about hypergamy primarily in the context of looks which is inaccurate and misleading.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:44 PM
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People talk about hypergamy primarily with respect to looks when actual hypergamy as it exists among humans (specifically women) is more about social standing and status. The official dictionary definitions actually don't even mention looks. It's just that in the modern era of tiktok and social media photos, looks has become heavily tied with status and standing. Beyonce is in an optimal position to exercise her hypergamy more than 99.99% of women and hypergamy is the reason why Beyonce won't le…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:38 PM
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I think official definitions of hypergamy emphasize social standing, status and associated factors like education (and increasingly looks in this day and age) or money. Even though everyone technically of course wants "the best they can get", biologically female attraction is definitely more focused on status or standing. You ask a man whether he prefers his woman to be well off, educated, connected and widely respected, he'll say sure, but it's not a priority that registers consistently and str…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:28 PM
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I knew a couple girls whose current boyfriends look so much like their exes (and the exes before that) it's frightening, including dress style, hairstyle, facial features, race (a different race from the women implying racial preference or fetish). I feel like if I were the current boyfriends I would feel very uncomfortable and a giant red flag...like I'm being replaced by just another clone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:18 PM
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I'm sure these men you describe exist, but I honestly don't recall any man here inferring this level of entitlement. More often than not it's that they complain they can't get the woman they feel is their equal. They might be deluded as to their own value, they might not be, but it's a different discussion there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:01 PM
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I remember an article that discussed this though a long time ago and there were some of the profile pictures displayed that were rated "unattractive" or "below average" by women. Sure maybe they were not the best quality pictures but they looked like young healthy regular dudes, some even decent looking. Makes me wonder if perhaps women didn't necessarily think they were "ugly" but just that there wasn't anything there to necessarily pique their interest. I can tend to veer toward the blackpill …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:56 PM
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I'll take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:49 PM
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Are you basing this off of one batshit insane mentally compromised poster on this sub (out of many)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:42 PM
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Ok point taken....but ultimately the gist prevails....getting sex is way way easier for women even if obviously looks matters for both sexes. Even cream of the crop hot guys need to try a little and they don't have it as easy as most women who look remotely decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:30 PM
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Eeeesh. I am conflicted facewise vis a vis weight gain b/c I have a defined jawline (prob due to being skinny) women tend to compliment but I also hear things about women liking softer faces. Ultimately I decided overall not to worry about it, being a twig needs to be fixed above all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:27 PM
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Not saying it's right, but there is a very obvious and commonplace explanation for this and it's because it's hard for men to get a lot of sex, or at least a lot harder. Women are offered sex like water, literally zero effort needed except basic hygiene and health.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:13 PM
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Our society has long been fucked up concerning sex in general. Movies with blood and murder in them are rated as low as fine for children but once an F-word or boob is present it's suddenly only for people over 17. Deeply-rooted religious influences aside it's prob b/c most of us are a far leap from committing egregious acts of violence even with desensitization but everyone eventually has to deal with sexual maturation, urges, intercourse etc. and everyone is not even a stone's throw away from …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:10 PM
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He must be pretty naturally athletic (or lifts/works out) and that's still 2 in taller...the vast majority of dudes 5'10" 180...even if they have some muscle you're probably looking at some significant extra fat and prob a spare tire. I have the opp problem I'm 5'10" only 130 my twink ass needs to bulk up at least 10-20 lbs but it's been an uphill battle for the past few years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:00 PM
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And they lie about it too, b/c it's clear with any amount of observation they settle and settle hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:48 PM
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I have had a history of anxiety, BDD, and OCD, with fixations on various things. Doesn't negate a thing I said and actually reinforces it, but congrats on the gotcha. Ultimately my point is to take everything you read online with a huge chunk of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:46 PM
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Seems like most people here are still fat just not as fat on average. 5'10" 180 lbs (for men) usually means carrying major extra chub unless you're putting in major time and effort in the gym based purely on gaining mass. Inb4 but BMI isn't an accurate assessment of muh health.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:37 PM
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I mean....I would agree if makeup wasn't already just vastly normalized to the point that every woman is expected to use it to some degree. The social prescription and norm aspects change everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:33 PM
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It's pretty clear people on this sub, and basically reddit or forum posters, tend to be: socially stunted shut-ins, often terminally online teenagers lacking any life experience, or those with the mental maturity of teenagers, again, stunted cognitive and mental growth mentally ill, in need of medication if not currently on medication some or all of the above
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 05:31 PM
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I mean take the terms "male gaze" and "female gaze". Which one has a largely negative connotation whenever it's mentioned and which one has a positive one? No need to elaborate further after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 03:07 AM
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Why does your OP shit on men for not having enough money but not women, assume kids are an entirely great deal and aren't a burden for men, and pretend the only shitty parents are fathers?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:25 AM
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You say this as if most people have kids for primarily selfless altruistic reasons with the future of humanity in mind. The fact that affluence and education are negatively correlated with having children makes this all the more laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:24 AM
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If they have no experience they shouldn't be talking as if they have experience. A very big problem in this world is people have very strong outspoken opinions about things they know nothing about. Not knowing isn't a crime, it's carrying on like you know. The resulting stupidity hurts yourself and other people around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:16 AM
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A lot of people are shitty and irresponsible. It doesn't go against what I said. Ofc at 20 you're going to be more reckless and irresponsible, you're going to make bad decisions and moral lapses. As you get older you realize you can't afford the consequences of your mistakes and carelessness, unless you're trashy, then you don't. This isn't the same as the cock carousel thing RP talks about. Women still want LTR from 20, doesn't matter if they are bad at it at 20. If they pick a shitty guy and c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:07 AM
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Whether women cheat or not (I agree they do, just like men), my initial point is women aren't riding some type of cock carousel with Chads until they are ready to settle down and then settle for a beta they aren't attracted to. Most women well before 27 are already in long-term relationships. If they're going to cheat, they will cheat after "settling down' too. The fact that some women cheat doesn't contradict the fact that they seek long-term relationships from the age of 20 if not earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:52 AM
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So you're admitting you don't need to be Chad or the top 20%, or are you saying women will only officially take the top 20% and when things are going bad and she gets bored she'll fuck below that? Doesn't sound like the narrative men are pushing here when they complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:47 AM
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Ah the convenient "but she's fucking Chad on the side" card no matter what anyone who disagrees says. Welp can't say I didn't walk right into that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:26 AM
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What this sub is is a lot of people either men or women who are very neurotic and have zero life experience and social skills. The men are bitter and say "90% of women want the top 10% of men" and the women, equally deluded with their own problems and hang-ups, wanting to lash out, are like "Ya, so what, too bad." The reality is neither group is qualified to really talk about dating issues objectively in any sense that is informative or valuable. This sub just serves as a metaphorical stress bal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:22 AM
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Then why are so many women under 27 in committed relationships? Shouldn't they still be in their cock carousel phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:20 AM
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Yeah, because it was sarcasm. Just b/c there isn't an exact male equivalent of Karen doesn't mean society doesn't already have a myriad of condescending male tropes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:05 AM
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The monarchy aka the bluepill aka mainstream society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:15 AM
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Are there not many other stock tropes and ways men are commonly ridiculed and criticized in the mainstream? Like being stupid, being clumsy, being sexist, being a meathead, having a small dick, being creepy, being a potential rapist or stalker? I guess they just don't all have names. Maybe Barney, Steve, Eugene, Hector, Travis and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:12 AM
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No doubt there will be plenty of people who judge them, but these women have such notoriety, fame, and are conventionally attractive enough I doubt from an absolute numbers standpoint they will ever have trouble finding men. Riley Reid is another example. She's run through in like what, the hundreds? Still lines of men willing to wife her up and she actually is wifed up to the surprise of no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:00 AM
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I mean, as long as these women are fine with just casual sex and don't blame men or get frustrated if these amazing Chad options refuse to commit to her - which is often the case - I don't have a problem with your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:42 PM
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No. Women do prefer taller men. But after they are "tall enough" - for some women it's 5'10, for some women it's 6'0, they don't gain extra points for being taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 07:41 PM
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It's a woke progressive thing, people use it to be inclusive. I personally won't ever stop using just gf or bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:08 AM
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If you somehow interpreted my comment as shit-talk, it's your own projection, insecurity and need to feel validated. Women prefer tall men, just like how they like muscles. There's still a limit for many. You're a special kind of deluded if you think most women somehow don't find 7'0" to be a problem b/c muh hEiGhT.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 05:28 PM
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Would rather cry in a ferrari than a honda accord xD
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 02:46 AM
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It's much more nuanced than this. Obviously women want a man with a spine, but they also are naturally drawn to arrogant asshole behavior because it hints at a man with a spine and confidence; behavior seen as overly nice is also interpreted as either being at least non-indicative of a spine or being a pushover, even if the man isn't a pushover. Being overly nice is also seen as boring - even if the man actually has a spine and has all his shit together and does all the right things. It's all ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:48 AM
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Yeahhh i dunno about that. Most of the women I know want tall men and most of these women would also say they want at least 5'10", but anything above 6'3" is already too tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:32 AM
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SoCal like the beach and $100 for a pair of faded ripped shorts or SoCal like Methlehem?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:35 PM
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If he's super short, 140 is not rail thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:57 PM
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If she's 6'5".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:56 PM
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Yeah I doubt this. The whole "You're just intimidated by a smart independent successful woman" thing is bullshit. Men aren't intimidated, they just don't care [as much] about intelligence or career or accomplishments. Well actually the only fear they might feel is if the woman thinks she's too good for him and cheats later on due to hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:23 PM
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Feminist ideology is inseparable from the current modern political zeitgeist and advocates for equality and attacks gender norms, while ignoring that men are still in effect required - by feminist women as well - to conform to the traditional norms feminism says are problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:14 PM
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The guys here are not representative of the general population of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:11 PM
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Are you swiping on only the top 10% of men on dating apps who have the most incentive and ability to just sleep around? If not, you people must live in some trashy ass areas the way you describe the men around you. Most of the men I know are just regular dudes who want a good woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 10:03 PM
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Losing patience and empathy aren't flaws I'd say. People say a lot of dumb shit. I think it might manifest into a flaw or transgression perhaps like not having the patience so just saying something inflammatory out of frustration and then moving on, which I've done. But yeah in the grand scheme of things, sorry not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:45 AM
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Nice try, Williamwyattd.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:41 AM
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This place is more like the natural order of things. So basically, men and women both being shitty but without a force to keep men out women just don't feel comfortable being as forthcoming with their shittiness. This is not me saying women aren't as bad, more like women just don't feel as free to whine as men do here. My observation on reddit is that there are more male whiners and nasty men but the nasty women are especially nasty and the most toxic. It might very well be that online spaces ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:32 AM
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Assuming baseline social skills, low inhibition game is the most legit game there is. Full stop frfr no cap as the cool people say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:22 AM
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Yeah the OP made a disclaimer like "This is not good advice. There's a good chance you will irreversibly fuck up your life or die. But you'll get laid."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:15 AM
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I mean hilarious but also true. Reminds me of that OP a little while ago where the guy talked about how drugs is the quickest way to social circles full of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:05 AM
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Do you believe women give a wider variety of answers other than "Looks matter, sorry you were too stupid to realize that" "Women are picky and not open to interaction b/c men are more likely to be ugly or violent, that's life, sorry" and "Not all women"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 01:02 AM
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Not sure if you've heard of it but something similar would be a good idea for a new I Think You Should Leave skit. Guy just goes around being weird in the most random of contexts and places. Like a controversial debate sub full of heated members and a regular poster just randomly tries to sell drugs, plug his Etsy account or ask for Minecraft tips in the middle of angry arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:58 AM
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I'd also mention those who repeatedly argue in bad faith or are clearly compromised by their own tunnel vision. Basically when that happens I try to be better about simply disengaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:53 AM
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I considered this very real possibility, that maybe women just don't have any real grievances with dating and the opp sex b/c their lives are so easy. But again a quick review of reddit and other subs will reveal the contrary. It's not like this sub is restricted to just talking about getting matches on OLD. Even if men have it objectively harder in dating - and I believe they do - that wouldn't stop women from complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:50 AM
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LOL I'm better about that now. I just make it a point to not respond or block people I think are shitty or crazy. There's no point in arguing with severely mentally ill people. They won't hear you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:47 AM
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What are some things people here can admit about themselves as flaws in terms of how they debate or conduct themselves on PPD? I can say I honestly try to keep everything genuine and exercise logic, but I also have the tendency to entertain arguments from random angles and sides. Even if it's not something I feel very strongly about, I end up committing to it anyway. For example on the whole I'd say I am sympathetic to the dating struggles of men but I also find myself arguing with men about min…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:37 AM
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From subs like twoxchromosomes, femaledatingstrategy and reddit in general we know many women online have plenty of nasty things to say or complain about men. But on this sub, it seems like the dynamic is mostly men initiating the complaints and women responding, either with their own perspective and opinions, gaslighting, or telling men why they shouldn't be complaining. Is it because on a sub that's designed for both men and women, women feel less comfortable or willing to start official discu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 12:33 AM
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Do you think villainizing and demonizing men, as well as promoting women at the expense and neglect of men (or more importantly, young boys) through campaigns, programs, support groups...etc. are good cultural solutions to these problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:19 PM
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The current prevailing cultural zeitgeist promotes body positivity, health at any size, all sizes and body types - and only female body types - as beautiful supports female empowerment, girl boss life and aura, supports female assertiveness and gender-bending (eg it's acceptable if not great for women to act with more traditionally masculine traits), criticizes gender norms while allowing women only to adhere to traditional gender dating preferences villainizes men for all types of things, also …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 09:04 PM
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"I can fix him" "I can make the bad guys good for a weekend" - Taylor Swift
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:55 PM
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The lenience in society toward women extend well beyond the "feminine, thin, agreeable young" women. You're too wrapped up in your feminist talking points to see this though, but honestly it's not surprising as it's been something you've told yourself for ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 08:47 PM
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Except....society has been doing all this for as long as time and many, if not most women still want and have children. So no it's not "ofc any woman who reads this won't reproduce."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 06:28 PM
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I find the soccer player type to be the most popular preferred body type among women young or older. Although it might be b/c the Hemsworth type is so rare it's not even a topic worthy of discussion among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:43 PM
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There's talk of skinny men being unattractive and I have a theory that what a lot of people say is skinny here just means not clearly fat as per american standards. Like they have the body and appearance of someone who isn't necessarily a landwhale but also has no other appeal like being athletic, muscular, nor the sculpted look of actually lean men. IRL men who are actually skinny (but not methhead skinny) usually have an easier time dating provided it's from being physically active and not in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:02 PM
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Par for the course then
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:44 PM
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Still extends to how society views children as a whole. Again, value, lenience, coddling just for being and existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 04:16 PM
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Women wanting to be loved for who they are and not being seen as sex objects (being appreciated for their looks) or glorified dishwashers is, I'm pretty sure, an even bigger thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:40 PM
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Not the same at all. Women and children provide value simply by existing as deemed by most of the world. A child is loved by a mother for being her child; for many women, he could be a complete piece of shit with all sorts of problems and she will still love him deeply. Ditto re: the reflexive and pervasive "women are wonderful" and coddling in our gynocentric society. Sure a woman needs baseline upkeep and effort to maintain appearances but overall is given much more lenience. Men have to perfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 03:34 PM
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..........lol I was kind of agreeing with you to an extent til you started with that mewing bullshit. It's 2023 not 2014. As you say, face structure is genetic. Everyone has observed guys who mouthbreathe and eat soft shitty ass food all their lives still grow up to have Chad faces. Then you have people with proper posture and eating real food still with garbage recessed features. In any case, my observations extend to celebrities but mainly come from the people I know IRL. Pretty women have sof…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 05:50 AM
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Then it's the women's fault for not realizing that what they can get for one night isn't what they can lock down for marriage. Don't blame OLD, you know people would be quick to blame men for being stupid for believing the lies they're told growing up. It's either "there's no lies" or "if you got eyes you shoulda seen thru them".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:37 AM
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Yeah you know the thing is there seems to be this knee-jerk aversion to anything that paints men as being at a disadvantage. The fact that a lot of women aren't satisfied from one-night stands or situationships going nowhere doesn't mean they still don't have it easier than men in dating. It's like telling a guy who struggles to find breadcrumbs that full-course meals get old b/c you're left wanting long term. Constant casual sex and ONS for men isn't ultimately satisfying either, but nobody see…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 01:27 AM
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With the rising cost of living I wonder just how many people now make enough on their own to provide for themselves, male or female. Marrying for the necessity of money and financial stability might make a comeback if it hasn't already.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:40 PM
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Am I going crazy, was this thread not up a couple weeks ago and then a couple weeks ago before that with the exact same wording?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:36 PM
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But wouldn't they be cursing their daughters with a tall height potentially? According to some women here they struggle as well (....but...probably not lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:21 PM
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I agree. I wasn't arguing for or against it though, just an explanation. But people do like to cite biology and nature whenever it's convenient for them. When it comes to the things about biology they don't like, they clam up or talk about how it needs to be changed and controlled, or that socialization is the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:16 PM
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This discussion never goes anywhere, but tbf that applies to a lot of topics here. You will never ever get the women here to admit men are the victims of any societal transgression. It's gaslighting or it's "Yeah that's the way it is, blame biology" - unless it's something that hurts them, then it's not okay the way it is, now we need rules to constrain our biology lol - or "It's your fault you fell for the lies, anyone with a brain could see through them." Even when these women bring up things …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:53 AM
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I feel like there's some gray middle ground. Women in general do overall prefer white men, and looks do matter, but the looks threshold isn't as high as everyone makes it seem. I see plenty of men who would've been called beta gayface "it's over" cucks on PSL forums with cute girlfriends. These men would've been rated 4 on these rating sites if not lower but somehow are in happy relationships. That's when PSL guys start hamstering and say "she's betabuxxing him and fucking chad on the side." I'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:51 PM
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...You don't think someone who refuses to give anyone but their perfect ideal over a 6.5 out of 10 is going to have unrealistic standards or a skewed approach to dating IRL? Just LOL if you don't think these PSL standards don't have any eurocentricism or racism behind it. I lurked those shitholes for years. Inb4 bbbut we got black n asian ppl on muh truerateme charts!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 10:27 PM
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There are specific types of incels with BDD who fixate on blackpill and looksmaxxing. A good representation of this demographic was represented on former shithole discussion boards like Puahate, Sluthate, or Looksmax, with the Truerate sub and other associated subs like Vindicta being a more modern example. These people rate with a very narrow standard of beauty in mind and autistically fixate on individual traits down to the millimeter which compounds upon this eg ethnic non-white, minus 2, sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:51 PM
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It isn't what they say. It's social inhibition that comes more naturally to some people. It's guys who seamlessly move from one group to another like it's the most intuitive thing in the world; it doesn't actually matter as much what they are talking about even though obviously wit and humor help. You can spit a wealth of truth, knowledge and the best jokes but if you do it awkwardly it will have the opposite intended effect. For these people, they struggle because they lack the ability to conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 05:55 AM
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Depends on your example of a pretty man. Most women have told me they're drawn to a combination of masculine and feminine features and it shows in the men they select. The 'pretty boys' that are all the rage still actually look very masculine with defined features. I've never seen an actual soft-featured man being admired or popular. But in any case, point being this is uniquely human as in nature the most sexually dimorphic male usually wins or passes his genes along first so it has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:09 AM
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I see bluepill as just mainstream advice. Basically mainstream dating advice for men is worse than nothing b/c it wastes men's time and makes them frustrated and more open to shitty grifters eager to capitalize on said frustration and loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:06 AM
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It happens a lot to the point where it's safe to say close to half of all organisms are the result of a female mating with a male who wasn't her choice. Frankly it's more like the male with the most dimorphic traits (biggest horns, size, strength) was likely to overpower other males and the female; as controversial as it is to say perhaps the female might have chosen that male anyway due to the manliest looking male being most likely to win. However, again in humans women don't necessarily think…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 03:01 AM
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Which is why the bluepill fails so hard. It's a bunch of platitudes that 'make perfect sense' like "talk to her like a regular person" "treat her with respect" "listen" but there's no concrete or tangible instruction behind them that men can actually practice and follow to see results. Redpill has many toxic elements but they pull men in b/c there is actually something there to latch onto. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 02:54 AM
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Honestly I've always wondered if it was just me noticing those types of things. I remember seeing pictures of people being absolutely sure they were siblings b/c they looked so much alike but they were actually dating or married. I know couples looking more and more like each other over time is a thing but some of these relationships weren't even that old, so maybe there is something to people unconsciously seeking out people who look like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 01:47 AM
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This isn't controversial anymore. Most of the women on here freely admit this and are proud of it, like "It's your fault as men if you were too slow to realize this we need our menz hot and manly, we women suFfErEd for years iTz PaYbAcK TyMe"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:58 AM
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I've recalled studies that said goodlooking men don't really pass their good looks to their sons and women are more likely to look like their fathers. Pretty confusing and depressing stuff lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:34 AM
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I'm sure these examples exist. I just think maybe in general people don't process male and female looks and attractiveness the same, which is probably obvious. There used to be what I thought was a 10/10 guy - validated and confirmed by my many drooling female coworkers - who would come into my work at night and one time he brought his sister who was basically also a carbon copy of him, but that robust jaw and hunter eyes that made him look like a mogging machine just made her look like a manly …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:01 AM
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I think just regular attractive is fairly common with fairly normal to well-developed features and ratios. The big thing that both ugly and very attractive people have in common is some form of deviation, striking impressions that either give an oooh or an ewww. For either social and/or biological reasons, certain exaggerations are seen as attractive and others aren't such as larger than average eyes, fuller lips, prominent jaw (in men) or cheek structure, vs big ears, forehead, or noses, respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:58 PM
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It's just what I've noticed. Although it's probably more common you'll just get a family of decent to goodlooking people. Maybe I'm just singling out those who seem exceptionally (even slightly more) goodlooking and then you look at their opp sex siblings and they just seem very ordinary. I don't perceive this contrast with same sex siblings though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:49 PM
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I've noticed a lot with both celebrities and people I've seen IRL, goodlooking people often don't have siblings of the opposite sex who are equally goodlooking (or at all). For example, take a goodlooking guy and his sister probably doesn't have the same appeal, and vice versa. I'm guessing it's because a guy is goodlooking b/c of the same features (masculine, robust, angularity) that make his sister look kinda off or manly. Conversely with a lot of attractive women with brothers, you'll see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:46 PM
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I've noticed a lot with both celebrities and people I've seen IRL, goodlooking people often don't have siblings of the opposite sex who are equally goodlooking (or at all). For example, take a goodlooking guy and his sister probably doesn't have the same appeal, and vice versa. I'm guessing it's because a guy is goodlooking b/c of the same features (masculine, robust, angularity) that make his sister look kinda off or manly. Conversely with a lot of attractive women with brothers, you'll see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 10:07 PM
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Well except a father's genes also affect how their daughters look. If you're talking about many generations of controlled sexual selection, both sons and daughters are "victims" of such. The daughters of ugly fathers have an equal chance of inheriting his ugliness so women are not better off in the looks dept. There are even studies showing a father's looks influence the looks of the daughters more than the sons, and that goodlooking fathers have limited benefit to the looks of their sons. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 09:59 PM
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It's interesting then that in humans women are deemed the "pretty" sex when in much of the animal kingdom (and amongst humans as well to a degree) it's the men who need to flash their colors and getup to impress. Goes to show just how much socialization matters with our species; sexual dimorphism doesn't necessarily translate to more attraction (eg overly hooded brows and mean eyes, very square faces, large muscles and body hair), although in general I think straight women do prefer their men to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 05:32 PM
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Let me specify then. In traditional m/a a lot of times the more skilled you become the more the values instilled along with the training process resonate and take hold, e.g. humility, discipline. In MMA these values are foregone. Whether MMA is more effective than trad m/a is moot. With relevance to the OP my point was women would prefer a caring kind man capable of violence over an unpredictable brute, but will still take the brute over a man not capable of violence at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:53 PM
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You're so pressed for what? Go golf? How old are you lol But yea man we get it you're really cool and badass, hope you kill it at your jiujitsu class after work Monday
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:42 PM
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LOL I was talking about martial artists in more of a traditional sense b/c it teaches the values I mentioned along with physical skill and technique. I'm aware of what most MMA people are like, doesn't negate what I said at all. You can obviously be very proficient at violence and still be a dickwad. Glad you were able to get that out of your system lol you had to thump your chest somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:14 PM
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"Treat women like they are human" is just a vast oversimplification like all of the other dating advice out there. In the past I've had a couple female friends say something like "Women love you because you talk to them like they are real people". What they really observe but can't discern is the importance of social skills, comfortably moving from topic to topic in conversation and talking to people in ways that seem genuine and natural. I read body language and other subtle hints and respond a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 04:04 PM
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I'd say some might think that men are more romantic than women b/c men traditionally and probably still currently are either naturally or pressured to be the initiators and actors in the dating and mating dynamic, similar to showing off plumage or elaborate dances to impress.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:48 PM
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The more trained you are, the more you acquire humility and awareness of your own limits and also less of the need or want to use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:39 PM
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Most martial artists worth talking about aren't "violent men" but they are capable of it. That's the main thing women unconsciously care about. They would rather the man have the capacity to temper the violence and be an upstanding citizen but if not they'll still take it over a man who is weak and can't do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:54 AM
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It's not an excuse, it's biological. Women naturally are attracted to physically capable men who can provide security and protection. The lizard brain persists even in modern times when physical strength is not as necessary. The fact that he might physically hurt them is a deterrent, yes, but apparently not enough to counteract the attraction. A physically capable and protective man who is kind and caring is obviously preferable to a man capable of violence and brutality with a risk of domestic …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:51 AM
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As you say these men are the majority of the population esp if you're going to buy into the beta thing. Don't be surprised about the complaining if the majority of men are being affected and wanting change. Your "sorry it's survival of the fittest" hardlining only goes as far until it's inconvenient to you or your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:51 PM
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Probably. Ideally they'll wisen up over time. But if it happens to a handful of guys, it's their fault. If it happens to many guys that it's an endemic problem (which it is), then maybe it's still their fault but there are things on a broader level going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:42 PM
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Um no. Plenty of guys grow up without ideal mother figures - or if their mothers were actually good people they didn't necessarily fall into perfect feminine boxes. They still end up pedestalizing women because the 'sugar and spice and everything nice' 'women are angels who can do no wrong' indoctrination from mainstream culture is strong. Just has to be reiterated the amount of time and influence you spend and receive in the household really pales in comparison to your peers and everything else…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 02:40 PM
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Just LOL for the 1098557th time at this "women have moved on and are happy single". Find me a woman under 40 who's voluntarily single long term. Out of tons of women I've known there are like zero under 30, a couple under 40 who are single mothers too busy to date. Over 50 and jaded is one thing, most women before then want relationships, with many settling. Maybe it's hard to find a woman who's perpetually single b/c they're weirdo shut-ins I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 01:57 AM
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My favorite is purple-haired libfems against radfems and terfs. I always bring out the popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 01:12 AM
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Honestly, a public speaking course or an improv class might be more equipped to deal with that particular issue Absolutely, a gigantic part of talking to women, hitting on women, wooing women etc is knowing how to talk to people, to everyone. It's a form of sales or self marketing. Effective salespeople are trained (or talented) to the point of automatically coming across as genuine rather than forced, glide effortlessly from interaction to interaction and control the dynamic of the room; their …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 08:03 PM
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The term privilege as this sociopolitical progressive buzzword becomes worthless when you realize everyone is born with advantages and disadvantages. Our society seems to deem certain advantages more worthy of condemnation and mention over others and then slaps on the privilege label. Good luck getting an ugly short poor neurodivergent man to give a fuck when you've just been yelling white male privilege at him for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:35 PM
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It cannot be overstated. The fact that RP grifters or incel forum shitholes are actually a place of comfort, acceptance and wisdom is a testament to just how absolutely worthless and dismissive blue-pill and mainstream advice is to men. When you are raising boys with nobody or gaslighting nanny figures they're going to look to the problematic douchenozzles down the street because at least they make them feel valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 06:27 PM
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Well that's the thing. A lot of men grow up with bad social skills due to minimal social interaction or in poor environments, often with limited parental figures or role models. There's no beating around the bush, western society is degenerate, but that's another conversation. With the internet being ubiquitous they fall into these rabbit holes and vicious mental and emotional cycles...society neglects and gaslights men for sure but also, social incompetence hurts men so much more than it hurts …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:52 PM
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This is great and all, but for men with bad social skills or on the spectrum - ie many if not most of the men who spend a lot of time online complaining about dating - it's difficult if not downright impossible not to come across as offputting when approaching women with romantic or sexual intent. You can memorize all the lines and advice you want but for most of these men the only way they'll get better is by consistently talking to more people, and failing...and even that is not a guarantee b/…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:27 PM
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Double standards are valid in these discussions in many cases b/c men and women are different. Men and women want different things in women and men, respectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 05:23 PM
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I think there is a difference between "Yeeesh he's unattractive" and "He doesn't catch my eye but I mean, maybe if there's chemistry or he has other things". A lot of women will agree to a date if it's the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:52 AM
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Let's put looks aside for a second. What are other ways women value men? For their status, their money, what lifestyle or resources they can offer, the illusion and social association of protection etc...somehow that's even more shallow than looks. At least looks is part of the person, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:45 AM
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This thread is about looks. There's all this talk about an average looking guy not being really average and thus irrelevant if he can attract women based on charisma or social skills. Isn't that the entire point? If you can max out in other areas and do well even if you aren't born with the right height, race or face then blackpill points are moot. If you're going to say an average looking charismatic socially competent guy has a major advantage over an average looking autistic socially stunted …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 04:23 AM
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I mean looking like your parents (one or both) is a given for a lot of people. I don't think that's exactly what OP meant. There's also gross studies out there that say people actually unconsciously seek out people who resemble them or their parents both in personality and looks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:47 AM
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Uh hypergamy is a thing but I'm sure a goodlooking 5'11 bodybuilder can find a fit attractive young woman fairly easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 03:29 AM
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If over half the population is overweight and a significant percentage clinically obese (in america anyway), how can fat people be invisible or undateable? Most people are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:10 PM
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Most people who are fat stay fat or get fatter with age. Until they get to that point where old age makes you lose weight b/c you're less likely to feel hungry or remember to eat, but that's a ways up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:08 PM
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Ya Walmart, prob b/c the two live in the same trashy area with the same culture. Guy is likely to be skinny or at least not fat b/c of meth and woman is fat b/c of eating like shit, not exercising and being lazy and entitled etc or being hip deep in shit with kids w/ no father. Neither are doing well. The same type of guy is also just equally or more likely to be fat just like the woman though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 05:59 PM
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This was question for men and I am a man for the foreseeable future.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 04:27 AM
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You need to be decent enough. You do not need to be "hot af". The sheer amount of men in relationships proves this, and we're talking about relationships where the woman is still young, can pay her own way, and has no need for betabuxxing that early. Young women are usually never single regardless of their financial circumstances and there are only so many chads to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 11:21 PM
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This would be one thing if the guy was mega rich and famous with insane status and she was desperate for money and financial stability. Often this isn't the case, so what perks would be worth it if you have to sleep in the same bed every night and spend your life with a guy you feel nothing for at best? You have the money to travel and you can pay bills now but when you travel you are traveling and sightseeing with the asexual or repulsive man you decided to commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 08:40 PM
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Fasle. It is known plane janes and ulgy women have it beeter then average and ugly men. You are blnded by your female privelage as well as recent third wave femenism if you are saying stuff like this. Did you type this with a rotting potato? wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:48 PM
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Yeah there's a threshold like we've agreed on. I don't believe that OKCupid study with limited context saying women find most men unattractive reflects where the bar is. Women find a very small % of men hot enough to just say hell yes and the rest are invisible at first. Out of these "invisible" remaining men, if they take steps to try to initiate it's a maybe for those who are cute enough, which is a much lower standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:34 PM
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So much for chinmogging. Lol back in the day when dudes in high school movies looked like a hard 35. This might still be the case, but it's been awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:28 PM
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Women's standards are higher in terms of just being drawn to a man on sight b/c of his looks. But they have more leeway in feeling more attraction if there are other things about him she sees later about his personality. I will say the current culture with so many more options - and our pathological ADD as a collective always wanting to click in case of missing the next best thing - does make dating more complicated and difficult. Like for example a personality may be able to increase attraction…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 07:15 PM
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I don't think it's black and white like that. There's hot enough to fuck on sight (for some women) and then there's cute enough but you need to know more. You hear a lot of women say they didn't become attracted to their boyfriends or husbands until later, or "Actually I thought he was kind of ugly at first". I believe the subsequent attraction that emerged later is real b/c I can tell they really love their SOs. Although I get why a lot of men wouldn't feel the greatest about that. Ideally it f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:15 PM
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My take on the "most men are below average" thing is that basically there aren't many men women will immediately date or fuck based on looks alone. I've had a lot of women tell me that most men or even all men are just invisible by default - I assume unless they are absolutely exceptional, which is probably why they say female sexuality and attraction is reactive (to men doing various things to show their value). From convos there are literally a significant amount of women who would pass on Hen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 06:05 PM
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There is absolutely a looks threshold to clear but I don't think the bar is that high. Obviously if you are very goodlooking you will kill it on OLD, but I've seen a lot of profiles of men who do well and men who don't. The main difference is photo selection in terms of subject matter and context. Guys who get a lot of matches and do well have high quality pictures of them that project a wholesome extroversion; the pictures show they have a healthy social life and a variety of different hobbies …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:51 PM
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I mean looks are temporary - you can maintain to a point but generally you look worse as you age, yet there's this overall belief that it's better to be wanted for your looks than your money. Everything is potentially temporary, but with money at least there's this idea that if you're smart you can grow it long term ergo you will only get more money with time. But either way, looks or finances, modern relationships to a degree will always be shallow and transactional-based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:28 PM
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"I wouldn’t have had the guts to compliment a guy when I was younger, but at this age I don't care anymore" what do they mean by this? What part of this is confusing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 05:22 PM
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We're naturally drawn to healthy. That means fit, maybe a bit on the thin side, or some extra pudge might be okay depending on how it's carried. Straight up fat or too undernourished and skinny is unattractive and none of this would be controversial at all if we were talking about men. Obviously there are exceptions like people with fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 07:38 PM
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I mean I'm fine with just concluding I just won't ever get it. But I can identify all the traumatic shit I went through as a child or teenager and know what was healthy and okay and what wasn't, and then also recognize the same elements and threats when they appear in present day life and that I need to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:28 PM
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I understand about the underaged girls being trafficked. I guess my lengthy comment was more just about people with abusive pasts who continue to return to (or go on to date new) abusive partners or in turn abuse others or their own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:23 PM
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I don't follow current events very well. Why are there threats there? Isn't that far away from Israel and Palestine?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:22 PM
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Misogynistic and fatphobic aren't the incriminating insults people think they are considering the sheer amount of misogynistic men who do crazy well with women and that the state of our obesity epidemic makes it good to be afraid of fatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:19 PM
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Where the hell can you get a candy bar for $1?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:17 PM
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The answer I keep getting is that people who are abused somehow have internalized abusive behavior as normal. I have a hard time getting this since you would think after going through shit you would be especially sensitive and set on surrounding yourself with individuals who don't have any abusive tendencies. I feel like anyone with relative cognitive competence would realize this by the late teen years as in the case of abusive households. Repeating the cycle makes no sense to me, but I've been…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:13 PM
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Ok cool lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 11:08 PM
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Top-tier women I've noticed are always with guys who are tall first and foremost, often bearded, they definitely look white and conventional but aren't necessarily that goodlooking - ofc some are, it's just not a requirement it seems. These men are also charismatic, often friendly, they start and navigate conversations readily and easily with others which is a sign of social proof. They probably come from a good background and are well-connected. All of this makes sense and harkens back to what …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:42 PM
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I live and work in an area where a lot of people are fit and looks-conscious. I guess I never thought about it too much but while there are also a lot of fat people around, I just assumed the fit can date each other and the fat do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:46 PM
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Maybe it is a location thing. I work and live in an area with a lot of relatively fit and looks-conscious people and I always just assume the fit people can date other fit people. There are also a lot of fat people too but it's about 50/50 once you get out of the nightlife neighborhoods. Edit: I would think actually it's harder to find single women but thin women are relatively common here under 30. For better or worse thanks to hypergamy it doesn't seem like being taken matters as women branch …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:46 PM
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Again with the "at least you aren't worried about getting murdered" card. Man that must be so convenient. Somehow being worried about being taken advantage of for sex is understandable for women but when a man worries about being taken advantage of for money or provider status he 'lacks confidence' and 'isn't ready'. It also isn't simply fear of being used. If the attraction isn't genuine or sufficient, it does not bode well for the future of any relationship if she is settling. Edit: Also, do w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:36 PM
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Would you tell women who look for warning signs and worry about being taken advantage of for sex that maybe they aren't ready to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:20 PM
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Fear and our behaviors in reaction to it don't always make sense. We like a sense of control and we dislike the unfamiliar. That's why women have their guard up with strangers and don't really think about how statistically they are more likely to be hurt by men they know or are even close to, simply due to the sheer amount of time and exposure spent with and to these men and the social contexts that potentially facilitate rape or SA. That's why a lot of people get into their cars every morning w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:15 PM
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Man I really don't know where you guys live that everyone around you is some fat slovenly abusive fuck trying to get into your pants or if u a man dated land whales who laughed in your face after you paid for dinner and then said it wasn't goin to work out and then she got into a car with a chad out on parole turning in his job app to pizza hut. It would explain all the mentally ill hateful unhinged people on here. I'm not saying it's your fault...just...damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:14 AM
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When you're privileged, equality feels like oppression. Edit; Oh shit, somebody already said that below me lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:06 AM
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Some things are just red flags to men even if on an individual basis there's a fairly normal reason for it b/c the possibility still exists that it means something bad. I could list many things that turn women off or make her worry that aren't the man's fault
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 12:42 AM
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I think that's the main fear of men nowadays. It's not the waiting for sex. It's wondering if she made other men wait lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:50 PM
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The oversimplification works in the vast majority of cases as you say, so it is indeed very self-explanatory. Yet the vast majority of people are either at least out of shape if not straight up fat. Unless you are one of those rare exceptions or have extremely rigid, specific goals, there's no need to delve into the minutiae you described.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:27 PM
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If women were realistic about their paranoia they would be much more wary of the men in their lives whom they actually like, such as their brothers, uncles, close friends, boyfriends, husbands etc because statistically that's who's most likely to assault or murder them if it happens. The average rapist is your bestie Josh, not weird strangers hitting on you and not the creepy looking guy on the subway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:10 PM
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Eating lean = complex carbs, get your protein, healthy fats, fruits and veggies No need to eliminate completely but moderate refined carbs and sugar Aside from people with abnormal preexisting conditions it escapes me how it can be more convoluted than this. Self-proclaimed gurus and modern day snake oil salesmen dressed up as professionals will try to sell you all sorts of bullshit in the fitness industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:46 PM
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The amount of goodlooking guys I see who threw away over half their appeal to women over time through shitty eating, sedentary living and apathy is insane. Like they start off great in their early 20s and then just slowly slide downward. Biological aging has nothing to do with it as the metabolism and changes are not nearly drastic enough before 40 to make a real difference. People complain about getting fat but it's clear from their life choices not getting fat isn't a priority, but getting tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:42 PM
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Top post? This video is old as shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:38 PM
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This doesn't point to how difficult it is to stay lean, but more how degenerate our values and lifestyles have become. It's not hard to make it to the gym 3-4 solid times a week if we moderated our tiktok and netflix use and happy-hour meetups but people can't seem to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:14 PM
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If you've been lifting for 15 years and still aren't lean it's b/c you simply aren't doing the additional self-explanatory things required. Staying lean means a decent diet and maybe a few sessions of interval training or cardio a week, that's it. Lifting helps because extra lean mass is metabolically active and consumes more calories, but the assistance is complementary and peripheral. I don't know what this delusion is of staying lean being an unrealistic standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:13 PM
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.....what? LMAO It is cute they let you have internet access from the psych ward. I don't entertain convo with crazy though, hope you make progress and they let you out soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:06 PM
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Why the hell would I be butthurt that some crazy woman likes cats? You have many screws loose lolz. Hope you have health insurance for meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 10:00 PM
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Stop confirming what everyone already knows, that the amount you are obsessed with cats is positively correlated with mental illness lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:51 PM
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I didn't even really get teasing. In high school maybe but not in environments with grown ass men. Even guys who are prone to the macho teasing dynamic have the awareness and decency to only establish and entertain it with dudes who are okay with or enjoy it, and lay off those who aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 09:35 PM
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LOL Person: You know cats don't give a fuck about you and will start eating your corpse an hour after you die right? Catlady: Yea, I know. And?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:46 PM
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Uhh were these studies conducted in frat houses? I'm not sure what dickwads you guys have been around. Remotely normal ass men don't haze or give shit to other men. Contrary to my online d-bag persona I've never had trouble getting along with other men bar very isolated exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 06:06 PM
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Whatever, sure thing. Not the big deal you're makin it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:03 PM
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The general direction and back and forth of the thread (as well as this comment chain) is one side saying women are essentially whores having lots of casual sex and the other side is saying no. I'm just assuming the sentiments on both ends were consistent as you were responding to someone who was asserting the "no" side. To reiterate what I've observed, women mostly go from one long-term relationship to another, and any sex when single is often while dating to get into another long-term relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:20 AM
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I feel like there is a difference between sex b/c you're in a phase having fun without any strings attached vs having sex while dating people with the goal of an LTR. Most women don't fuck hordes of men before deciding on the one they want to commit to, but maybe a few at most. Stats say average # of sex partners in a lifetime for both men and women is 4-8.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 02:04 AM
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Looking around it seems like most women are in committed relationships. There aren't enough single women, esp women under 35, to make your claim have the impact you intended even if every woman not in an LTR (seriously, where are they?) was having casual sex. What you might mean is that most women (and a lot of men) may have had casual sex a couple times or there was a period in which they were feeling more wild and sowing their oats. But this doesn't last that long, and not everyone is having t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:43 PM
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I don't doubt people straight up lie on here but I honestly don't see any men with those standards saying they're fat with kids wanting thin women with no kids. You might get the guy over 30 who argues it's not an issue dating women in their 20s and if he's broke he's not going to volunteer that info either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:18 PM
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Society. And also a lotta women yes. You okay bruh?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:15 PM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:12 PM
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Okay but I'm guessing, to give these men the benefit of the doubt, most of them who want women under 30, who aren't fat, don't have kids, and aren't sluts also fit the same description. I'm sure there are exceptions with some huge hypocrites, but I honestly don't think that's the case for the most part. The broke part maybe lol...but then again a lotta people are broke in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 06:33 AM
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It's a challenge not b/c their standards are high. It's a challenge b/c there's a lot wrong with these people mentally. The women here too. Or maybe it's the location? I gotta say again, going by how some of you talk it's like you're surrounded by fat disgusting members of the opposite sex day in and day out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 05:17 AM
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Not here, I think b/c people just avoid touchy topics of how race is involved with dating preferences. Also, intersectional representation is beyond the scope of a sub like this, which is understandable. People, both men and women, debate about the validity of standards placed upon each gender all...the...time here and then go to another thread to say "the market decides your worth, sorry". I just think that's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 04:08 AM
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Attraction isn't an issue to be "solved" per se, but plenty of societal and environmental factors influence attraction. In relation to bigger and broader issues, that is literally why people push for more and better representation for different demographics in media, movies, politics, everything. Black women and Asian men aren't deemed the least attractive b/c they are inherently so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:55 AM
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As long as you feel that way about everything else. A lot of people selectively complain and push the issues they think are important to bring about change and then say "that's life" to other things that don't matter [as much] to them (that matter to others).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:37 AM
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I mean I don't live in Walmart country, but where I'm from finding a young woman who isn't a slutty landwhale is still very much in the cards for most relatively well-adjusted men under 30. I honestly think most people complaining here are just extremely socially stunted or live in shitholes judging by how they describe the opposite sex in everyday interactions. Not necessarily things they can control so I'm not quick to blame in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:17 AM
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There are a lot of women here who claim they are sick of men b/c there are so many shitty men and they are happier single b/c men aren't worth it. Is it b/c their standards are too high also? This selective criticism of what constitutes a valid complaint aside, you imply in your OP that you actually think 'under 30, no kids not fat not a slut' is a high standard, so I don't what trailer park you live in or around.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 03:10 AM
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Once again threads like this make me thankful every day that redditors don't reflect real life and are too stupid and deluded even compared to humanity as a whole. Only in places like this is it implied that a guy in his 20s has standards that are "too high" b/c he wants a woman who is under 30, not overweight, doesn't have kids, and hasn't been the town bicycle. Just LOLLLL
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:23 AM
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Why is America synonymous with fatness lol. We aren't even in the top 10, we're like #14 or some shit. Edit: Closer look seems to reveal a lot of the top 10 countries are small obscure islands most of us haven't heard of much less could locate, suggesting maybe a genetic component with pacific islanders. Aside from Samoa or Polynesia we're #1 out of all countries the general population knows exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:39 AM
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Yes, but it's not analogous. Women become radfems b/c of shitty men eg misogynists, wife/gf beaters, rapists. RP men are created b/c women inadvertently communicate to men the type of men they will fuck by fucking those men, which runs contrary to what they say. Men will increasingly become the epitome of what works. If being a pandering limp noodle doormat got men sex you would see all men become simps overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:18 AM
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You're mentally ill. Up your meds or stay mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:14 AM
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agree to disagree honey lol you sound so pressed for what
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 12:04 AM
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Doesn't match my observations and I know a lot of people and women. Most of the women I know are under 40 though. If they're under 40 I'm guessing they are just fucking weird if they are perpetually single, voluntary or not. But like I said, I don't know any. Even all the weird ones are consistently in relationships. It's obvious to me women want to be in an LTR even if it means settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:59 PM
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LOL where are these women who are voluntarily alone? Single women are rare enough, I haven't come across a woman under like 55 who decided she was going to stay single in my entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:25 PM
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It's hard to find single women - although if she likes you, it won't matter b/c branch swinging is commonplace even though no one likes to talk about it. Almost every woman under 30 or 40 is in a relationship I know with the exception of a couple, who are merely between relationships. These women saying "we're happy alone" are either over 45 or divergent shut-ins or both.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 11:23 PM
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"personality" means being funny and engaging, and knowing how to talk to women in a seductive attractive way That's called game, whether it's natural, learned, or faked. That's why the redpill appeals to men, b/c everyday mainstream (bluepill) sources (common media, parents, teachers, friends, community leaders) don't talk about any of that. It's all about being caring respectful nice and all that shit that only matters after she already likes you for other reasons everyone on here likes to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:27 PM
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Where is that meme with the guy sweating and not knowing which button to push. Women be like fuckkkk I dunno what to admit to, "We're all just the plates Chad is spinning" or "We're dating older men"? xdxdxd Lose-lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:23 PM
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Also, the definition of toxic masculinity has become so diluted to most it basically has come to mean any type of behavior or views from men challenging the progressive narrative. Similar with the terms incel or neckbeard, if you go to the justneckbeardthings sub more than half the posts aren't even neckbeards (or incels, even though incels shouldn't be equated with neckbeards in the first place). It's just posts of men being assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 04:08 AM
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I think it's more that society tells men to get rid of toxic masculinity along with all these other progressive prescriptions and then these men see guys who embody all these traditional and 'archaic' 'flaws' get the women, often - or sometimes especially - with the women screaming at them the loudest with this aforementioned advice and narrative. Then when men complain society either gaslights them or says 'tough shit' 'I mean biology is biology, what did you expect? Being a good person doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:54 AM
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Except the vast majority of incels on these forums who finally post their pictures - after months or years of complaining about being subhuman - have looked anywhere from normal to actually goodlooking. Which makes sense since they have body dysmorphia and are obsessed with looksmaxxing. The problem is their social skills are straight trash and they are mentally ill, many are on the spectrum, no way around it. The reflexive response from them is that only the goodlooking incels post their photos…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:29 AM
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Heh
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:26 AM
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Thx for the link. I know the article doesn't directly imply endorsement for the palestinian demonstrators in the photo, but alongside the subject matter which explains how Palestine should be supported I just gotta reiterate you can't be surprised when people get upset when there are signs that say "retaliation is justified". In this sense the message can be interpreted as actually pro-Hamas - since the acts were committed by Hamas - and not simply pro-Palestinian people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 03:24 AM
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I glanced at the posts and literally can't tell the difference between AllPillDebate and those OG incel forum shitholes of yesteryear like lookism or puahate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:24 PM
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LOL to reddit mods: "Perhaps I was too harsh on you."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:13 PM
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Is it just me and god knows this sub has issues but is AllPillDebate just much more degenerate? Is it mostly 13-year old blackpillers or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 11:07 PM
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All the demonstrations on campuses and in public areas crowding my social media feeds aren't new? Actually...they are. I never said the issues themselves are not a new thing...ofc there have always been those who have committed their life and time to expressing their views about Israel and Palestine, that's not who I'm referring to. I wasn't framing anything, that's literally just saying what happened. It is again a bad look when all these extra demonstrators come out in support of Palestine whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:44 PM
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Hamas was voted in by the Palestinian people. I don't know what the approval rating is or if there even is such a thing. But I've also heard the election was almost two decades ago so a lot of people were either not even alive or not of voting age when it happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:38 PM
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In case you don't know, other organisations like the PFLP and Fatah exist. I didn't know. That's why I asked. It seems like these pro-palestinian demonstrations and noise coming from these people are extremely reactive. Why weren't they on college campuses last month? It's a bad look when they come out of the woodwork now that Israel is retaliating due to unthinkable rape and slaughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 10:25 PM
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For leftists to believe clashing over the issues they highlight are merely "petty disagreements" they sure are aggressive and volatile in accusing and condemning those who disagree with them as fascists.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:57 PM
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I understand you can support someone or their cause even if they have beliefs or tendencies you disagree with. Like for example supporting help and leniency for the homeless while acknowledging they can be disruptive or a danger. But I don't think I've ever heard a progressive left-wing supporter of Palestine actually address the EXTREMELY stark dissonance between the views of Hamas and their own values, which judging from the noise these woke people generate highly cherish. In one breath, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 09:40 PM
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I meant for the selection process. A lot of women only use the apps and either wouldn't know what to say if a guy approached them IRL and/or won't ever frequent places with the expectation of meeting strangers or having the mindset of being approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 08:56 PM
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Behaviors on instagram or YT are more representative, reddit has a lot of weirdos with fringe views trying to convince people their views are representative. Instagram also has a lot of amplified behavior like men oversimping and women gassing up other women. Nevertheless, social media not being real-life holds truth. But, you can say that with the ubiquity of social media and the internet, along with the fact that so many of the younger generations are socially stunted with overreliance on apps…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:12 PM
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They're straight, although the consensus is that women are probably more sexually fluid and open than men. From what they've elaborated I think many straight women just don't grow up really focusing or assessing the looks of men and are instead fixated on the very much ubiquitous pressures to fit the female mold of beauty and fashion. Some of these women also may tend to be more of the introverted or socially awkward type so they weren't as comfortable with their sexuality until later, if at all…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:23 PM
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Married people give crappy dating advice ftfy Not just this sub, basically everywhere. People seriously lack observational competence and skills of perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:12 PM
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I feel like people really see attractiveness as an all or nothing here. There's straight up ugly which means the woman can't ever bring herself to feel attracted to him, and then there's just meh but with these men women definitely can develop attraction by appreciating his other traits over time. I see this a lot with many couples. Revolutionary thing to say here, but humans who are fairly young strong and healthy are meant to look attractive to others even if they didn't win the genetic lotter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 04:05 PM
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If things like confidence, ambition, power can inspire real sexual desire, I don't see why money can't esp if it's associated with power or status. Tho I agree desire from something like looks is "better", attraction is inherently shallow and relationships short or long term are transactional. If you're looking for anything long term a woman who wants you just for your looks isn't that much better than a woman who wants you for your paycheck. You know she's on the constant lookout for more or di…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:13 AM
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Money absolutely gets guys laid, wtf. She'll fuck him just b/c of the money, but that still means she'll fuck him. If money didn't get men sex there would be much fewer men trying to get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:49 AM
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I've kind of pursued further convo with a few [straight] female friends who have just thrown things around like "women are so much more attractive than men". When I ask them to name reasons why they'll just say things like 'Oh I dunno, just you know, women take time to do their hair, makeup, they care much more about style of clothing and how everything fits together and matches, etc." When I say none of that has anything to do with pure looks, they just say "I mean to me all of that contributes…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:28 AM
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That's b/c you aren't on the level of autistic truerateme-ists, where a "true 7/10" is one in a million. The people on those subs are terrified of breaking norms and giving a 6 to someone they find very attractive lest they get warned or banned for overrating lolz.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:19 AM
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So OP is probably an autistic or mentally ill trans-woman who lacks life experience. Honestly no hate, but just keep in mind where the OP is coming from and why the post sounds the way it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:51 AM
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If the sex or gender of someone is the most glaring and important thing maybe you shouldn't be friends, you're right. For me it's just a matter of people I connect well with, who happen to be men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:07 AM
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Being goodlooking will help for sure and if you have a good face you won't struggle with dating even if you're like 5'8", I'm just saying height (and status) seems to be the main draw with women who can have anyone they want, in addition to the height filter being the most commonly used on OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 12:10 AM
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I feel like if having a goodlooking face was the most important, you wouldn't see height and body/frame as the most common qualities among men with the top women. These women can have their pick of the litter and still prioritize height and frame over face i.e. not all of the guys are goodlooking, but all the guys are tall. You can tack on status and connections there as well as prized traits. I honestly can't remember seeing a smokeshow with a man under 5'10" no matter how handsome he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:19 PM
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"Women are sick of trash men and are increasingly content staying single" is something said by women over 40, which might have some merit, or by neurodivergent younger women who live in a bubble at home or online. Because as observations go it's pretty damn hard to find a woman under 30 who is voluntarily, perpetually single unless she is socially stunted with severe issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:38 PM
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Game matters the most. All the evidence you need is men with better game leaving goodlooking guys with no game in the dust - provided the first guy isn't ugly and looks decent "enough". People like to think it's some gotcha by presenting examples of goodlooking men initially having an easier time automatically getting their foot in the door. Like no shit. The issue is that game is very hard to master or fake. You either have to have the persona naturally or you need to convey it naturally - some…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 01:23 PM
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