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Again - the link between suffrage and voting rights was never - EVER - the law. I'm not saying it wasn't a popular sentiment for some people, especially as the draft became unpopular in the 1970s, but that's not what you said. You said that the law prior to women getting suffrage was that the right to vote was linked to conscription. It was not. Ever.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:53 PM
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The material point is that conscription and suffrage are unrelated issues. Arver doesn't say what you said it says. Women COULD be drafted - there was no law against it and SCOTUS never said otherwise - but Congress just never did it.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:43 PM
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Arver isn't a voting rights case. Your quote from Arver simply justifies conscription, not suffrage. The only way Arver could be seen to like suffrage to voting rights is f women weren't considered citizens, which they were. Minor v. Happersett holds that women are citizens: "Women, if born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction of the United States, have always been considered citizens of the United States, as much so before the adoption of the fourteenth amendment to the Constitution as si…
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:37 PM
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Oh I agree. I support conscription for women.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:33 PM
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you seem to have a very idealized idea of what life was like back in the 1910s.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:32 PM
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an anti-suffragette isn't a suffragette. And yes, many women WERE on their own to provide for their families. If you weren't independently wealthy or have a wealthy family, and your husband died or left, you were on your own. Those women STILL got paid much less.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:32 PM
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Oh and while I'm on a research kick on my lunch break - Pre-19th amendment, SCOTUS ruled that states could determine who could vote and that the right to vote was NOT a constitutionally protected "absolute right of citizenship." See Minor v. Happersett (1874). But it also has nothing to do with conscription. Again, this was overruled by constitutional amendment, and the current state of the law recognizes that the constitution essentially guarantees that all adult citizens have the right to vote…
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:19 PM
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That being said, both men and women should be conscripted if anyone is going to be conscripted at all.
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:10 PM
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The right to vote isn't contingent on whether you can be conscripted. First, not even every male can be conscripted. For example, you can age out of conscription, and there have always been exemptions and exceptions. And yet (white) men have always had the right to vote with few restrictions, even when there was NO draft. For example, there was a draft for the Civil War, but no draft again until WW1. There was the Selective Service Act of 1917, which was canceled in 1918, and then the Selective …
/r/MensRights09/08/17 07:09 PM
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I agree women should have been subject to the draft as well. But I don't think suffragettes would have been opposed to that, while everyone else would have been. Hell, women in certain parts of the military TODAY face backlash, can you imagine back then? Suffragettes were also fighting alongside the labor movement for workers' rights. Women may not have gone to war, but they did work in factories and hospitals during wartime, doing what was once considered "man's work," to help the country meet …
/r/MensRights09/08/17 06:47 PM
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The most important thing with Supreme Court cases is the precedent it sets. This sets an extremely broad precedent that laws differentiating between similarly situated men and women are unconstitutional. The ruling isn't just limited to this particular immigration statute. Challenges to similar existing statutes will become much more successful from now on. Going forward, every lawmaker in the country will have to take this into consideration when passing new legislation, and every judge in the …
/r/MensRights22/06/17 05:10 PM
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Thanks for your insight (and your service, of course!).
/r/MensRights06/03/17 08:44 PM
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Would be interesting to see the numbers, for sure. Anecdotally (which is not necessarily reflective of everyone's experience), I know about equal parts men and women vets/reserves and they all have their VA horror story, healthcare or otherwise. It sounds like the VA in general needs a boost in funds + a more efficient administration of benefits. It's really sad how veterans get treated by their own system when they leave active duty.
/r/MensRights06/03/17 04:16 PM
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I may be downvoted for this, but women are veterans, too, making this somewhat of an odd post for Men's Rights forum? Am I missing something?
/r/MensRights06/03/17 03:06 PM
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1 - never even touched "predatory male gaze" which is a fairly controversial theory even in feminist academia. 2- Repeat after me: the act of discussing women and gender issues, etc. in an academic setting does not equal feminism, either. 3 - If it's true that half the french population didn't take an active role in the revolution, isn't it fair to ask why? and what they were up to instead? And should we limit academic discussion to "standard curriculum?" I think we shouldn't. 4 - Re: Gothic Nov…
/r/MensRights16/02/17 03:00 PM
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Yep. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/jail-time-unpaid-child-support.html
/r/MensRights16/02/17 02:43 AM
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nothing wrong with that :) sometimes you just need a good vent.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 10:45 PM
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I agree with your gist but want to make some factual corrections. 1) There are a crap ton of kids just waiting to be adopted. The supply is either much greater than the demand or it's too difficult or expensive to adopt (or maybe a mixture of both). So "just put the kid up for adoption" isn't necessarily always (or even usually) a real option. 2) you can't just "surrender" your kid in most cases. In the rare instances where you are able to voluntarily terminate your parental rights, the child wi…
/r/MensRights15/02/17 10:42 PM
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It's almost like women are full human beings capable of the same atrocities, violence, and corruption as men.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 09:19 PM
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It really does boil down to "assumption of the risk." Even with precautions, sometimes shit happens. And if the parents don't provide for the unintended child, society will have to. Hard to imagine society willingly taking on that cost just so men don't have to support their "oops" kid for 18 years. That being said, I am aware of at least a few credible instances where women allegedly lied to men about being on an effective birth control, resulting in pregnancy. I know in reality that shit would…
/r/MensRights15/02/17 09:01 PM
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What you are describing is eugenics. It was a huge movement in the United States in the late 19th/early 20th century. You should research it - it ended up being a disaster. What started with good intentions, like what you describe, ended up in mass forced sterilization of "undesirables," many of whom didn't actually have anything wrong with them, but they didn't fit society's perception of who should have children (specifically, the eugenics movement is infamous for being openly racial in its ap…
/r/MensRights15/02/17 08:47 PM
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I mean - women are half the population. Sorry that you have to deal with opinions that annoy you, but isn't it better to learn and understand about other perspectives so at the very least you know how to approach it critically when you see it out in the wild? Also - Gothic novels are famous for exploring gender dynamics. That's a huge part of their history and appeal. It's not just horror and spooks and castles. French Revolution: One class session in an entire semester discussing what half the …
/r/MensRights15/02/17 08:21 PM
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commenting to concur wholeheartedly, and to add that in my experience attractive people get tipped better in general and society's stereotypical "attractive male" isn't missing buttons. Also, consider the fact that a lot of adult men have hairy chests, while most women don't. If you're serving me food, I don't want your chest pubes seeing the light of day anywhere near me. lol.
/r/MensRights15/02/17 08:14 PM
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oh totally agree.
/r/MensRights19/01/17 04:26 PM
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It's 50 minutes per day, amounting to less than 6 hours a week, which I can easily believe, especially in families with children.
/r/MensRights18/01/17 11:13 PM
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Men have more successful suicides. Women have suicidal thoughts more often than men. Women are more likely to use poison, which is a slower process than using a gun, which is what men are more likely to use. Men are more likely to have ready access to a gun than women are, which may explain this difference in choice. A slower suicide increases chances of intervention.
/r/MensRights18/01/17 11:05 PM
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Up until the later mid-20th century in the US, safe hormonal birth control was either not legal or readily available, abortion was not legal, or it was heavily restricted, and marital rape was legal in the United States - with some states not changing their rape laws until 1993 (1993!!!). What this means is that there is a not insignificant likelihood that some women, even in the "progressive" United States, have been forced to reproduce by their spouse or intimate partner. Also, to address Swor…
/r/MensRights18/01/17 10:44 PM
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I'm a woman (guess that's obvious from the username) and a feminist and I subscribe to Mens Rights because I don't believe it's necessarily antagonistic to feminism. (Maybe I should be called an egalitarian?). A lot of the time, Mens Rights issues are just the flip side of the coin of what we think of as "feminist" issues. I think it's important to bring men into the discussion of gender and how gender shapes our perceptions, lives, and outcomes. I also believe that gender is only one factor in …
/r/MensRights12/01/17 04:28 PM
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Feminist who is also interested in mens rights issues. (maybe a better word for me would be an equalist? an egalitarian? IDK). Just subscribed to this subreddit. Thank you!
/r/MensRights12/01/17 04:12 PM
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I mean, you hear on a fairly regular basis about women being killed, assaulted, injured, or put in a scary situation by their dates, esp. with online dating. Does that happen to men? (not rhetorical question, genuine question). I know there are a lot of psycho women out there, but do men feel powerless to leave if they want to leave? I don't think this is so much a sexist thing to help women screw over men who are just trying to find love, as a response to a genuine fear/need that women have to …
/r/MensRights12/01/17 04:02 PM
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