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I’ve never seen men condemned for being successful. It's one of my observations of the "Hallmark Channel Movie". If a man is 'successful', usually portrayed as wealthy, or an attorney or 'business executive', they are almost certain inappropriate for entering into a relationship, and must be reformed, or reject their workaholic and money obsessed ways to be worthy of acceptance.
/r/MensRights10/12/20 08:55 AM
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My version of this: One of the greatest inequities is that we teach young girls and boys that women are for caring for children, and men aren't. This is profound, and influences girls to tend toward caretaker positions, even though they are lower paying, resulting in one of the major sources of the gender pay gap. So - are feminists willing to close that gap by demanding that elementary school teachers be at least 50% male? Or are they content with a female-dominated social influence on child ca…
/r/MensRights10/12/20 08:53 AM
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Certainly not the most import issue in a mans world, but had always thought there was something about that Elaine character that was kinda cringe worthy. I remember having this discussion with my wife. It was just slaps on my thigh, usually, but it broke the intimacy. I'm not supposed to be getting anything painful just for being close to my mate. Men are taught that their strength is higher than a women's, therefore to be careful. Women are not taught that they are capable of hurting with physi…
/r/MensRights04/11/20 11:04 PM
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Women may be psychically weaker than men are, but they can still hurt them pretty badly. I knew this one guy who was psychically abused by his girlfriend, and he got black eyes and bruises around his body. You have to consider the difference in physical ability. Women don't have nearly the strength that men do. So you have to make your response proportional to the threat. That said, it's OK to respond, especially if the woman is attempting things that could be very damaging (trying to injure you…
/r/MensRights02/11/20 11:57 PM
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I assume that she is referring to the relative lack of females in the European Commission itself, just a guess. I would ask her if it would be appropriate to restrict female students from entering programs to become elementary school teachers, instead forcing them into other careers? > though the STEM field is somewhat more male there are other fields, perhaps socially more important, where women are in clear majority, like education An underrated point. When an elementary school has 14 teachers…
/r/MensRights09/10/20 09:20 PM
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Much more rarely. My ex-wife was a key counterexample. Her Mom was a polio survivor, and so she grew up opening doors for her. It was wired in her, an automatic habit. When we started dating, it was a gentle in-joke for our relationship. But a woman opening doors for men is, to me, noticeably rare, compared to the opposite.
/r/MensRights04/10/20 12:06 AM
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The question I'd like to ask: Why don't they demand equality in elementary school education? One of their more legitimate arguments is that society is unequal in the way that men and women's work roles are presented. One would think that the feminist movement would love to see a big presence of men in 'child-oriented' roles, so that young girls would be less likely to see themselves as 'future child care-givers'.
/r/MensRights25/08/20 07:45 AM
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50% agree, 21% disagree, therefore another 29% neutral. Agrees are over twice as high as disagrees.
/r/MensRights04/08/20 09:38 PM
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Women that don't need a man's financial support aren't special. Women that can do minor car and home repairs aren't special. Women that aren't emotionally manipulative are not special. This is what a normal woman should be like. Technically correct, but presented in a toxic manner. Takes ordinary behavior and makes it sound accusative.
/r/MensRights11/07/20 01:36 AM
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Junior high/high school teacher. This is dead-on true. Boys do more "big damage", like clogging up a toilet or sink. But day to day laziness, like not picking up a dropped paper towel on the floor? Girls.
/r/MensRights11/06/20 06:14 PM
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[Atticus Finch has entered the chat.]
/r/MensRights30/05/20 06:32 PM
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https://www.ravishly.com/false-rape-accusations
/r/MensRights16/05/20 06:50 AM
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Got documentation of Step 1? That's the key.
/r/MensRights03/05/20 09:00 PM
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and most research was historically done on males. The best example I have where women have definitely been under-served.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 10:59 PM
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This is anecdotal, and I'm skeptical of this claim. About 80% of autism diagnoses are boys/men. https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html However, you are seeing what the general impact of how society treats men compared to how it treats women.
/r/MensRights11/03/20 08:21 PM
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Yeah here in the UK legally men can’t “rape” someone. I think this text should read "can't be 'raped' by someone." Just a guess.
/r/MensRights28/02/20 06:35 AM
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My memory is that this is California Law. My guess is that Five Guys' is pissed about this, too. They don't want to keep paying for new signage to cover up one-stall rooms that are absurdly restricted by sex/gender anyways. Don't blame the business first - blame the State for passing absurd laws. Remember, a lot of segregated businesses in the old South weren't happy with those laws: they didn't want the expense and bother of establishing different facilities for Blacks, either.
/r/MensRights11/01/20 12:35 AM
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Force them to tell you why 'postponing circumcision until the person can choose for themself' is an unreasonable request.
/r/MensRights10/01/20 09:57 PM
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It's really important that all school teachers are female. First, it means that they control education and the narrative. For example, they can discipline boys for 'rough play', and reward girls for better attention to detail. Second, it's helpful that a child's first message is that women take care of children. Because females being associated with caring for young children is critical to provide evidence that a patriarchy exists. After all, care for their own children is a major reason that wo…
/r/MensRights31/12/19 08:50 PM
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"Do you know how many girls are left out and bullied and sad?" Yes. I do. I used to teach high school and junior high. Girls bully girls in much more deep and damaging ways than boys bully other boys. We had an issue where a girl was in a social group, and for no reason, all her friends decided over the weekend to stop acknowledging her presence at school. She woke up, and basically turned into a new student, without the teacher support that most new students get. The psy-ops that teen girls dre…
/r/MensRights28/12/19 08:42 AM
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In my experience, a man without a jacket in cold weather usually gave it to their female companion.
/r/MensRights26/12/19 09:07 PM
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This is why you always assume the woman is lying over 18 without proof investigate. Fixed that for ya'.
/r/MensRights19/12/19 01:11 AM
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Boys natural play is considered violent, school discipline is commonly administered by a nearly all-female staff.
/r/MensRights13/12/19 07:57 AM
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In all fairness to Google, and they may not deserve it... The reason for this is more a function of news outlets refusing to use the word 'rape' in headlines and articles where a woman has sexual contact with a man without his consent, or a woman has sexual contact with someone who can't legally consent (i.e. "School Teacher seduces 13-year old boy").
/r/MensRights20/11/19 12:09 AM
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You are the woman/women that we're talking about!
/r/MensRights14/11/19 11:08 PM
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This is a great illustration of why feminism is going wrong. A man takes responsibility for a primarily female activity: "Well, it's about time - lazy bum." You will never hear: "Oh, what a great idea - I should round my daughters up this weekend and teach them how to check all the fluids in our cars."
/r/MensRights09/11/19 10:25 PM
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then what's the problem? The problem is that the feminist hypothesis is that women should get paid the same as men, regardless of their actual work performed. women get more time off work after choosing to have children That women do this is considered oppression by the patriarchy. No word yet on whether feminists should discourage women from becoming elementary school teachers, which indirectly teaches girls that women should perform more child care duties.
/r/MensRights01/11/19 06:29 PM
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My favorite is that workplace deaths and workplace injuries are over 90% male. Another good one is: "So you are unhappy that there are few women in STEM careers? Do you think we should give higher salaries and affirmative action to men who want to be teachers? Over 80% of elementary school teachers are female." Another one regarding school teachers: "Do you think that having most elementary school teachers as female teaches young girls that caring for children is 'women's work'?"
/r/MensRights31/10/19 07:19 PM
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Physical differences between men and women. What has been forgotten is that though men have more strength, that women are still strong enough to inflict plenty of damage.
/r/MensRights30/10/19 10:29 PM
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This is a satire account, apparently, but similar issues arise once in a while in conversation. For example, "1 in 4 women in college are raped experience sexual assault", where 'sexual assault' includes a wide array of events which may include incidental and unintentional contact that is perceived differently by the so-called 'victim'. The best response that I've found: "Don't minimize the real damage that rape causes, by lumping minor events together with a violent act of rape that is, by any …
/r/MensRights25/10/19 07:02 PM
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Would she be equally receptive to FGM? This is the correct answer. Nothing like the implication that a woman's natural body is inadequate.
/r/MensRights19/10/19 07:26 PM
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I first heard this in university (late 1980's, early 1990's). Logic in various forms, such as Rhetoric, Reasoning, etc., was considered rejectable because the deterministic nature of 'that kind of thinking' was inherently male in nature. If I were a professor in a college class now, any student offering this opinion would get points off for using any form of conditional statement. Language constructions like "If...then..." and words like "Therefore" and "Because", would be treated as grammatical…
/r/MensRights04/10/19 09:23 PM
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I can already see how women will complain that there are long lines at the bathroom, because fewer fixtures can fit in the same space, resulting in overall less capacity per unit of time. Women benefit by urinals because fewer men need the fixtures that women always have to use.
/r/MensRights02/10/19 06:46 AM
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The situation would be worse if you had been playing with your daughter. They start asking questions. Try playing with a kid that you aren't the parent of, like a niece or nephew. I had a friend, whose grandfather was dying/had just died. I was going to take the 7-year old nephew out for laser tag or something like that, help the adults get preparations together. Gotta find an adult female to go with me. I learned that in teacher training. Men don't go unescorted with other's children. I don't k…
/r/MensRights26/09/19 08:20 PM
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Annoying trade off: Dutch students at this university will have to waste time enduring scheduling difficulties, because finding professors to teach certain required classes will take longer. The student population should instead demand that the University drop the policy, insisting that student outcomes are more important than the artificial goals of the University.
/r/MensRights24/09/19 06:52 PM
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A similar story swept through California at a very similar time, where the "McMartin family", owners of a preschool in the somewhat wealthy and quiet community of Manhattan Beach, was dragged through a massive court trial which lasted over five years. Although the trial resulted in 'not guilty' verdicts, the public perception destroyed the most-likely-innocent family members.
/r/MensRights04/09/19 06:53 AM
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However, law does account for this as penalties for murder are much higher. When it comes to how seriously we should treat domestic violence from both genders, it doesn't change the scenario at all. Nailed it here, in the view from my desk.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:44 AM
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psychological wounds are just as damaging to a person as physical wounds. I'm not sure if that helps the case, because male abuse and female abuse have the same psychological impact (or do they?) and the assumption I'm testing is that male's violence causes more damage than female's violence. This is not a point in favor of the men's argument.
/r/MensRights26/08/19 01:29 AM
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I'd like to ask one 'devil's advocate question'. Let's assume that women are equally likely or more likely than men to be violent against their partners. However, men are larger, and more muscular. How does this change the outcome of this issue? Even if women are more likely to be violent, but are they more likely to cause serious injury or death? EDIT: Downvote if you want, but this is a feminist belief. This is why they literally don't believe in female-on-male abuse. You need an answer to thi…
/r/MensRights26/08/19 12:18 AM
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Reminds me how Title IX is being used by men falsely accused of rape.
/r/MensRights22/08/19 08:27 PM
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I will know that feminists are serious about the issue of career equality when the demand the same restrictions on elementary school educators that they want to put on STEM. Feminists are right to be concerned that women are over-associated with child care. When 85% of teachers of young schoolchildren are female, that makes an impression on children that impacts their future career decision making. But while we hear plenty of feminism with regard to women being underrepresented in STEM, they are…
/r/MensRights15/08/19 06:41 PM
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I find it interesting how feminists are supposedly against traditional gender career roles, yet there seems to be no movement that discourages women to go into early childhood education. I could easily see this situation happening at a school district, hiring a 1st grade teacher, then bemoaning the lack of male applicants.
/r/MensRights08/08/19 11:16 PM
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It is inappropriate to blame Islam for Islamist-related terrorism. Nothing else needs to be said.
/r/MensRights05/08/19 06:09 PM
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This. I'm not going to suggest that an appropriate punishment is jail time, or something like that - there are circumstances regarding this action, including mental illness, that we don't know. But leaving a neonate on the side of a road, essentially to die, is not acceptable. "Not being angry" at the woman is one thing. Accepting this action as reasonable is quite another thing.
/r/MensRights01/08/19 11:06 PM
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Capitalism has huge problems that the government needs to regulate so that companies can't be more powerful than them and so they don't take advantage of the populace There is two parts to this. Government needs to work for individuals only. The massive result of government regulation under both parties has been screwing the rights of the people in favor of industry. This is usually framed as 'helping people by creating jobs'. Government power has become industry power. An increase in government…
/r/MensRights30/07/19 06:16 PM
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I can't stop thinking about how much they sound like trashy incels. Gotta love the 'economic swastika' by banan's name, too. Like after your feminist commune is formed, wise womenfolk are just going to start repairing their own roofs, stacking their own trucks, even taking out their own trash. Just like the typical anti-capitalist, acknowledging all the benefit they see, ignoring all the trade-offs and costs that they don't see.
/r/MensRights30/07/19 07:01 AM
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Why would feminists be happy? I don't know. Asking the wrong gender here. If feminism is about equality, where is the desire for women to assume this part of the workload?
/r/MensRights14/07/19 03:02 AM
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Feminists 100% wouldn’t care if you made a shirt like that. I'm not so sure about that. Feminists are surprisingly ignorant, if not cheerful, that over 90% of workplace deaths are male. I imagine that a response like this, to the shirt above, would be quickly branded as 'toxic masculinity', that men would dare to point out that they are not universally advantaged by gender roles. They certainly aren't receptive to the argument than beauty standards are more a product of women's comparisons to ot…
/r/MensRights13/07/19 03:27 AM
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Men do not have to: Be tall. Be trim. Be muscular. Be strong. Be wealthy. Have money. Have sex at any time. Work out. Love women. Listen to your bullshit.
/r/MensRights12/07/19 07:14 PM
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One even remarked “It’s funny cause you’re a guy.” Remember that the assumptions of 'toxic masculinity' are that men automatically consent to any sexual contact, because we are not-quite-human predators who 'always want it'. In reality, the desires of men and women are much more even, so this assumption is incorrect.
/r/MensRights12/07/19 06:35 PM
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Against the large array of feminist-related studies which assume 'toxic masculinity', it's not unreasonable. This holds feminism accountable in the 'court of opinion' that they prefer to fight in the most.
/r/MensRights05/07/19 08:11 PM
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As a male, I am possibly willing to accept this, if we all agree that this means that the patriarchy doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 06:54 PM
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This entire thread, at least when I viewed it, was a solid portrait of how the male experience is viewed. Comments were essentially all serious, and people seemed to 'get it', about how men are impacted by the changes in society.
/r/MensRights14/06/19 04:48 AM
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The view from my desk: This post notes the conflict between 'feminism' and LGBTQIA issues. There is an underlying assumption that these two groups of supporters are in harmony on their philosophies. They aren't. I don't know what the LGBTQIA communities view feminism, but there are definitely feminist groups that are not supportive of LGBTQIA ideas, particularly the concept of how feminism applies to trans-women, or gender fluid individuals.
/r/MensRights10/06/19 07:22 PM
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Let's all say it together. "This woman is a rapist. Just like Brock Turner is a rapist."
/r/MensRights06/06/19 11:43 PM
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There are particular considerations in this case that do not apply to the United States. These trains get packed to the point of being unable to move. Women are much more vulnerable under those circumstances. Male harassment of females is a problem in Japan. Though relatively few males harass females, it's a bigger problem than here, and the crowding makes enforcement more difficult. Male harassment is much more rare. This is a legitimate solution to a real problem, not an artificially generated…
/r/MensRights29/05/19 08:45 PM
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I assume Courts get a share of all money transferred from one individual to another in a hearing, Dramatically incorrect, in my experience. There are filing fees, but the court collects no money other than an initial filing fee. but I know for a fact that lawyers generally get a share of the money awarded to their client when money's involved. Source for family law? Family lawyers usually get an hourly fee. You may be thinking about lawyers who work on contingency. The typical case is one where …
/r/MensRights24/05/19 07:09 PM
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the family court steps in and assesses that it is more lucrative to transfer the man's wealth to the woman, thereby cutting for themselves a larger piece of the pie. I'm unclear. How does the court get more money from this? I feel like I'm misinterpreting what you've wrote?
/r/MensRights24/05/19 06:15 AM
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Most of these are responses to laws that require certain gendered restrooms. So there is no legal standing for such an action.
/r/MensRights19/05/19 01:27 AM
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You are a minority. Boys are often raised not to feel emotion, and suppress the desire to hug or be non-sexually intimate. It
/r/MensRights16/05/19 07:39 PM
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No. Women have issues with exceptionally tall and/or thin women in media and sales. Even though the vast majority of the market research shows that tall, thin, and young women images result in higher sales, particularly to women.
/r/MensRights05/05/19 04:22 AM
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Then look at general homelessness and its causes. You will have your answer. What is different about homeless than, for example, working poor, unemployed, etc. Then, you can examine the gender disparity of those groups. For example, a key cause of homelessness is drug abuse. What is different about drug abuse between men and women? Another cause is mental illness. Same question. Alternatively, look at other demographics. Veterans are overrepresented in the homeless population. So are people who …
/r/MensRights20/04/19 09:37 PM
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When the majority of homeless are male, there is not as much practical value in researching male homelessness. The research performed on 'general homelessness' is highly applicable to a 100% male population. However, it may fall short in recommending policy, and necessary services for the minority of females which are homeless. However, the whole issue that men are much more likely to be homeless is itself an issue that is relevant to study. What is different about the male experience that incre…
/r/MensRights20/04/19 09:29 PM
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It is joined by the notion that free speech is an expression of one’s power rather than a contribution to truth or toward a reasonable settlement. Wow. What a powerful phrasing of that thought.
/r/MensRights18/04/19 08:02 PM
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Got it. Don't care about the people protecting you from being raped by enemy soldiers.
/r/MensRights29/03/19 10:10 PM
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Because the pro-life mission is to eliminate abortions. And the goal of this advertisement is to encourage men to support their women, and encourage them to not abort their babies, as opposed to encouraging the mother to abort. It's well documented that men don't have equality in legal rights with regard to this issue. This advertisement addresses the practical control that they do have in the abortion decision. ​
/r/MensRights27/03/19 08:59 PM
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I'd like to ask Senator Rice about what is currently unequal about the 'ease' or 'safety' situation. Maybe we have already reached equality, in that the percentage of people who wanted to ride their bikes, and actually rode their bikes, was equal among both sexes or genders. ​
/r/MensRights13/03/19 09:37 PM
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A summer blockbuster can easily score $200 million worldwide, so I'm not surprised at all by this number. But do you have a source for this? This should be a post on this subreddit. It's disappointing to see the movie mired in politics. A woman in a historically man's role is an intriguing take on any story. But the abusive language contained in these links is really disappointing, and shows a lack of understanding of her market.
/r/MensRights10/03/19 06:10 AM
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Hypothesis: given that viewers of Marvel Universe movies are dominantly male, that the movie will underperform at the box office.
/r/MensRights09/03/19 10:09 PM
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So we're OK with false accusers taking detective and prosecution time away from cases involving actual rape. So we're OK with rape victims being perceived as false accusers because it's acceptable for a rape accusation to be made on a non-rapist. I'm not. I believe rapes should be investigated as potential terrible crimes, that the justice system should be used to help crime victims and punish criminals, not be used as an attack on non-criminals for philosophical purposes.
/r/MensRights22/02/19 07:46 PM
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Are you suggesting that feminists support the guy who removed Hillary Clinton as a factor in the 2008 Presidential race? They would never do that.
/r/MensRights21/02/19 12:29 AM
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No. If you voted Obama-Biden over McCain and Sarah Palin, you are part of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights20/02/19 06:40 AM
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If you chose Joe Biden over Sarah Palin in 2008, you're part of the patriarchy.
/r/MensRights20/02/19 06:39 AM
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Facebook, 2016. A woman is the only qualification for political office! My question: How do you feel about Sarah Palin? I learned that Sarah Palin was 'not actually a woman', even though she had given birth a few times. Was surprised.
/r/MensRights14/02/19 12:44 AM
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I don't know, but attorneys are sometimes, um...creative in the reasons that they sue people.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 08:16 AM
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I can't find any law in South Carolina that requires this. Check laws where a woman can sue the doctor, or the man, for failing to disclose infertility. This may be a 'cover-your butt', rather than a 'follow-the-law'.
/r/MensRights09/02/19 02:56 AM
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For reference, 23% of children live in a home with just a single mother. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-192.html
/r/MensRights09/02/19 02:29 AM
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https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-192.html
/r/MensRights09/02/19 02:29 AM
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Link for reference: Let me know if OP's link is different. I am American, this article is Canadian https://www.bclocalnews.com/news/do-boys-need-more-male-teachers/ I'm not going to answer this question with a 'yes' or 'no'. I don't know the answer, I haven't seen any research. However, the question does provoke a lot of 'disconnects', to me. Random thoughts: Thought 1. We seem to think that females should have an equal proportion of certain job titles (engineer, business analyst, CEO, passenger…
/r/MensRights07/02/19 11:41 PM
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1 in 71 million men is not 46 million. More like two million. Still a big number, but we need to win a credibility war here. But still: a domestic abuse flyer that's pretty much 100% gender neutral? That's a good thing. EDIT: My edit - thanks /u/T1redOfSleep !!
/r/MensRights07/02/19 01:26 AM
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Hundreds of baby boys die from the "procedure" every year. Wow, I'm not supportive of the procedure, but this is much worse than I thought. I want your source on this.
/r/MensRights06/02/19 12:03 AM
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I'll buy that when I see a man wearing his female date's jacket, more than once a year.
/r/MensRights05/02/19 07:54 PM
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It's an application of Marx's theory on class struggle, but applied on a sex/gender basis instead of an wealth/income basis. It starts with an assumption that the proletariat (women) are oppressed by the bourgeoisie (men). It's somewhat of a stretch, but parts of gender theory really are Marxist applications.
/r/MensRights20/01/19 07:57 AM
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I'm not buying any feminist message about women's particular place in politics, until they embrace Sarah Palin. I'm just a sarcastic jerk. But she's a Mom, including parenting a special-needs child, and a governor of a challenging US State. That is supposedly enough, right?
/r/MensRights06/01/19 11:47 PM
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"Circumcision is not mutilation" Yeah, well, it's the permanent removal of a body part. I get that we live in a country where female circumcision is almost unheard of, so there's no 'societal concept' of what it means for a woman to be circumcised. It's easy to waive off because 'it just doesn't happen', though we know that it does, especially in other non-industrialized nations. So as an alternative, I compare it to something that people understand and are generally aware of as being cruel: Dec…
/r/MensRights26/11/18 05:39 AM
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Someone needs to give this lady a copy of To Kill A Mockingbird.
/r/MensRights21/11/18 09:47 PM
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I would date both of them back to antiquity. Ancient Greece and Rome had water-based waste removal. I'm not a literature scholar, by any means, but the earliest literature I know that discusses 'Male or Female issues' is Lysistrata, a play written by Greek author Aristophanes, around 400 BC. I recall much of the plot is a sex strike by women, in order to encourage men to end wars. I don't recall whether the obvious issue of men dying in these wars being a deterrent was ever mentioned.
/r/MensRights20/11/18 08:13 AM
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On one hand, toilets are a critical part of human development, particular in disease control. But seriously, if they truly do not recognize International Men's Day, as they do Women's Day, that's a big disappointment, and contradicts their supposed ideals of human rights and dignity.
/r/MensRights19/11/18 11:55 PM
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You asked the question...here's the answer: Under that thought process, women are, by definition, oppressed, and require compensation. Note my wording. This isn't something that is established by fact, it's simply assumed. Men cannot be oppressed, only women. That makes it different, in their theory.
/r/MensRights14/11/18 10:54 PM
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you're the one missing logic here. pretending theft is not theft because "it's not a good argument" and "it happens a lot" Hey, stop misrepresenting my words! How do expect people to support your argument against circumcision based on consent if you can't distinguish it from necessary surgery? You are failing at that task. How can you expect people to support your argument against circumcision based on the sale of tissue if you can't distinguish it from many other procedures that are perfectly a…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 10:18 PM
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you're advocating for a crime by pretending it's not one. Stop branding me as a circumcision supporter because I suggest arguments against circumcision that are more logically sound. Stop ignoring my posts to brand me as something I'm not. I humbly suggest that when arguing against circumcision, you not appear like it's a deeply emotional issue, or you will appear like a fanatic. I assume that you aren't some sort of troll attempting to brand people who are anti-circumcision as emotional, irrati…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 08:55 PM
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when you take things that do not belong to you without the other person's permission, it is theft. If you are using this as an argument against circumcision, I just wouldn't. I would start with "It's bad, and has no benefit." The issue of consent to a procedure is a bad argument, because it could be used against legitimate medical procedures, rendering the argument weak. The key which separates circumcision is unlike other medical procedures, it has no measurable benefit, but it still has measur…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 08:19 PM
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yet you've already formed an opinion that it's fine and normal because it "happens a lot" which is basically the same point that every pro-cutter makes about their own mutilation. No. I was interested because of the claim that there was exception attention to the foreskins. Now I find that they are bought and sold like any other body part, I realize that if I use this as an argument against circumcision, someone is going to turn off and think I'm just arguing against nothing, because selling bod…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 06:32 AM
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people willingly get their appendixes taken out THIS is the argument. but you're all "welp, he's already been mutilated. big deal if we make some more money off it." The problem is that the sale of parts is normal. Appendixes get sold. Lung tissue gets sold. 1000's of other parts get sold. It's not an issue. What makes circumcisions different has nothing to do with the disposition of the tissue. It has to do with an unnecessary and harmful procedure. Don't try to convince people with weak argume…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 01:03 AM
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No, I'm saying that when 1000's of body parts are bought and sold, the argument against selling body parts isn't an argument. The problem isn't the sale of the parts - that happens everywhere. We're not complaining about the sale of appendixes or blood vessels, because those procedures aren't a problem. Circumcisions are a problem. Sale of the parts is not.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 12:51 AM
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not sure why you are so obsessed with the numbers when the act itself is the problem. Numbers turn heads. It's difficult to get people to care about this issue. just go ask a hospital (and see how quickly you get tossed out) This is a fallacy: every industry has a right to keep their financial private. But seeing this on a list with hundreds of other body parts isn't really inspiring me that this is abnormal industry practice. It appears that this happens thousands of times per day, that the mon…
/r/MensRights18/10/18 12:35 AM
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OK, now we need to close the loop on this. Is there any way that we can figure out how much the hospitals were paid for this stuff? These tissue samples are heavily process, maintained, stored. What is the procurement cost? These amounts are being artificially multiplied, but I don't know if it's large or small.
/r/MensRights18/10/18 12:03 AM
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These are really low-quality information sources. I need information which is from neutral sources, for purposes of really understanding this issue. Are you aware of any industry sources that describe transactions? I have a feeling that the $100k number is extremely inflated, based upon the garbage multipliers that occur in the cosmetics industry, and not on the actual selling price of a foreskin. If we are to make arguments on this topic outside this forum, we need better information than what'…
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:59 PM
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basic stats don't fit the narrative and are therefore tools of the patriarchy. I was told this in college. In 1990. I think it was more like "Structures like logic and traditional forms of epistemology and 'knowing' (like the Scientific Method) are male-developed and don't necessarily apply to all learning." My reply was: "I want to know if a building designed by 'feminist engineering' will still stand. Because if it doesn't, I'm not livin' there."
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:38 PM
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Not doubting, but I need sources for this. I understand $300 for the procedure, but selling the parts for $1000 or more, each? That is astounding.
/r/MensRights17/10/18 11:25 PM
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I'm not seeing the problem here. Why shouldn't girls be able to follow the same curriculum as Boys?
/r/MensRights11/10/18 10:09 PM
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The title is technically correct, but it is almost click-bait compared to the level of depth that this team of academics achieved in their criticism of what they call 'grievance studies'. The portion of this project that has to do with Mein Kampf is relatively small compared to the actual scope of their project and findings.
/r/MensRights03/10/18 06:28 PM
2

I vote for "Femanipulating"
/r/MensRights08/09/18 01:51 AM
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I've never heard a major Christian denomination speak about it either way. Have you? I'm curious.
/r/MensRights04/09/18 01:11 AM
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I've never heard a major Christian denomination speak about it either way. Have you? I'm curious.
/r/MensRights04/09/18 01:01 AM
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Only a guess: circumcision is ancient Jewish ritual. It passed down through Christianity. US Christian congregations are more likely to have strict interpretations of the Bible, so if the Bible said so, then it gets done. So it's basically a religious tradition.
/r/MensRights03/09/18 10:12 PM
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Can't disagree with this. As a statistician, you have my upvote for a reasonable use of the phrase 'time-weighted'. ​ ​
/r/MensRights31/08/18 06:33 AM
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For most women who use this quote, their "best" is everyone else's "average". View from my desk: most women who use this quote, their "best" is pretty close to everyone else's "best", but their "worst" is way, way worse than everyone else's "worst". ​ ​
/r/MensRights31/08/18 05:45 AM
2

I would suggest all men in this situation spontaneously showing up at a police station or local help center asking for help at the same time. When denied, just sit on the floor in an orderly line, waiting to be served by the government they pay taxes to. Alternatively, I would show up at a female facility and claim to be in transition.
/r/MensRights19/08/18 07:36 AM
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I would be completely accepting of Sarah Jeong if she just owned up to it. Come out and say that this is your agenda, or come out and say that you play a bombastic jackhole on Twitter. But now, she (and the New York Times) are trying to cleanse this, like this is just a normal journalist, not someone whose views are literally violent words toward other human beings.
/r/MensRights03/08/18 12:23 AM
2

moderate people can’t stand him. For example, Stephen colbert, TIL
/r/MensRights26/07/18 12:20 AM
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This is great, an entire generation of men raised to not help women, unless women come asking for it? This is an interesting counterpoint to "When something bad happens, we don't want a solution, we just want acknowledgement!"
/r/MensRights25/07/18 08:28 PM
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I actually do feel discriminated against by her comments. Well, you now have a basis for your lawsuit.
/r/MensRights07/06/18 01:03 AM
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But it harms boys to the benefit of girls do no feminist will dare challenge this. My snarky reply: "Then I suppose you are content with women dominating the lower-level childhood education. I'm surprised - figured a feminist would be unhappy about this."
/r/MensRights07/05/18 10:29 PM
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The one that feminists really need to understand is how toxic their domination of primary education is. When teachers of young children are overwhelmingly female, it sends a powerful message about gender roles. And that message is that females are the 'child care gender'. The movement to increase the percentage of women in STEM fields was active when I was a math/science teacher in 1996: before the use of "STEM" to denote these fields. Where is the movement to discourage females from becoming el…
/r/MensRights07/05/18 06:59 PM
1

Are we aware that Oedipus was fiction, and Freud has long been determined to be obsolete?
/r/MensRights02/05/18 07:02 PM
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No all socialists are either. Worth mentioning that much of the philosophical grounding of feminism is Marxist theory, but applied to other demographic groups instead of economic classes.
/r/MensRights01/05/18 11:13 PM
3

School systems can be stupid. Their dress code rules often outlaw clothing that is appropriate. Occasionally, dress codes can even make unnecessary headaches for poor and minority students. Schools systems can be notorious for creating rules without thinking them through, because they are not as educated as attorneys. However, schools are also notorious for following rules in obvious contradictions with common sense. I recall that studies show that women actually dress differently (tighter, show…
/r/MensRights03/04/18 06:53 PM
1

Right now, those who politically motivated are very sensitive to racism. This isn't bad on face value, though I'm concerned that the movement will lead to policy based on race, when other policies (in a separate post, sex education is discussed) might be more effective at relieving poverty, and for a larger and more diverse population than just African Americans. And finally, I still do not understand what you meant by the "anthropic principle." After a brief read, this was brought up in my Epis…
/r/MensRights27/03/18 06:39 AM
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What crypto is backed by gold None. Buy a piece of gold. If you don't have that kind of money, buy some silver. What countries accept citizenship for a few thousand USD? A few thousand? None. If you've got some reasonable fraction of a million, I would research Malaysia first.
/r/MensRights25/03/18 08:19 PM
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You might as well put white european doctors and white americans on the same scale as proof that whiteness has no effect. I couldn't agree more to this. That's because Whiteness isn't the problem, at least it's far from the top factor. And treating 'Whiteness' as a problem instead of the myriad of other factors isn't helpful. It's similar to the wage gap issue: the average woman has 80% of the earnings of the average man. Attributing that to discrimination, when 18% of the 20% difference can be …
/r/MensRights25/03/18 07:17 PM
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Apologies on that last part. It's the internet, never know what kind of animal you're dealing with. But if I'm going to assume you're not a racist, please do me the courtesy of not assuming I'm an idiot. Understood! Next beer is on me! Comparing immigrants to a native population is ridiculous. One is a self selected group, the other is not. Come on now. OK, you've got something here, but what is the mechanism that leads to better economic outcomes? The original question was about 'toxic Whitenes…
/r/MensRights22/03/18 07:49 PM
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Your implication that this is a measure of personal capability alone is patently absurd. I'm not implying that. It's a very general measure. My point is that the issue is more complex than "Toxic Whiteness". That is all. I work as an economist, and man, oh, man, is this issue complex. Success can come from any number of factors, with luck probably being the most essential of them. As you have suggested, this statement is incorrect, unless you are counting race as 'luck'. There are well-studied f…
/r/MensRights22/03/18 07:23 PM
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Imagine, someone uses the word “toxic blackness” to describe-issues in the black community. They don't. They use the phrase 'toxic whiteness'. However, I note that the average White economically outperforms the average Black American, however, the average African immigrant to the USA economically outperforms the average Black American, so it's likely not Whiteness that is toxic.
/r/MensRights22/03/18 06:22 PM
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In the workplace, men get paid more because of a variety of factors: they work longer hours, do more dangerous work, work more consistently in their careers, and train in more valuable subjects. In this case, women are more valuable to the bar owners as clients. If you accept the premise that a gender or sex can earn more based on the laws of supply and demand, don't complain when it works against one gender in a different situation.
/r/MensRights07/02/18 07:28 PM
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What's interesting is the professor's premise that the pay gap works through the 'glass ceiling'. That concept, by definition, only applies to executives in a company. So the professor is unintentionally noting that very little of the pay gap applies to the majority of people. Of course, if confronted with this information, there would probably be another reason given. And if confronted with the contradiction, she would apply that the rules of logic are masculine, and therefore do not apply to f…
/r/MensRights23/01/18 09:35 PM
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This is when you ask her whether she thinks Bob Ewell really fell on his knife.
/r/MensRights11/01/18 04:24 AM
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This is lawyer time. Sounds like her budget claims need to be contested. I don't know how it works, but the lawyer should subpoena or request discovery on EX's bank statements, and show where her money goes.
/r/MensRights22/12/17 11:55 PM
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Why is that even downvoted? Because feelings are more important than facts. This is the same as people confusing the scientifically shown health risks from obesity, with the feelings-based accusation of 'fat shaming'.
/r/MensRights22/12/17 11:51 PM
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My thought of the day. There is concern that college educated women are not often in high paying fields in technology, science, and finance. There is no concern that college educated women dominate elementary education, which is one of the lowest-paying fields for college graduates. Women's dominance in elementary education is so lopsided that there is a public perception that men are unable to properly care for children. Teachers are the pretty much the first profession (outside of their parent…
/r/MensRights17/10/17 07:56 AM
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that's gender based pricing. The problem here is that there is a legal conflict. There is no legal prohibition against gender-based pricing, especially when business owners want to attract customers from both genders. I think the original citation is something akin to a bar or nightclub that gave free/cheap cover charges to women in order to encourage a balanced-gendered crowd. The conflict in my mind is that individuals should also have the right to run their business the way they want. And any…
/r/MensRights04/10/17 12:26 AM
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Yes, but what customers are receiving is access to equipment. And if that's the same, the argument isn't quite as strong.
/r/MensRights03/10/17 07:31 AM
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View from my desk: There are better issues to promote than this. Men's health issues, on-the-job death and injury rates, child custody issues, and domestic violence. I would switch gyms, and let the owners know why. But if they have a designated women's only area, is it discriminatory to not have one for men as well? Yes, it is, but legally, men are not a 'protected class' under the law. In addition, a private company may have the right to design a gym this way, because they are private company.…
/r/MensRights02/10/17 07:50 PM
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Because the feminist machine benefits in two ways: They can lobby for policies that put pressure on male-dominated jobs, but not female ones. They can keep using the message that women are "forced" into childcare careers, and cry patriarchy when that system sends a message to younger boys and girls about their future career expectations.
/r/MensRights28/08/17 05:48 PM
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What is the source of this quote? Who is the person in the picture?
/r/MensRights18/07/17 05:53 PM
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My guess is that this fills a government agency requirement. In the USA, the term is "protected class". It's basically anyone whose nominal outcome is better than others, for any reason. Women are a protected class for purposes of elementary school education and nursing, despite being dominate in those areas. The use of the phrase "aboriginal people" suggests that this isn't the USA, however. I would not hold this against the company, but rather the government.
/r/MensRights09/07/17 09:04 PM
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Can someone provide sources for these? My statistics have similar conclusions, but the numbers are different. For example: on-the-job death rate is 11-12x higher. Another example (the source I really want!) is that young childless women out-earn men by 8%.
/r/MensRights04/07/17 05:21 PM
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She talks about how her American students don't really hit the books, but want to be led by the hand. In China, if you fail, that's just part of the churn, since there's always someone else who will keep pushing where you let off. My 'experience' is from a Business School Professor in China. He used to tell his students that "China has the world's smartest trees!" because all his students used to study by reading the book aloud to a tree. The emphasis, even in college, but from almost infancy, i…
/r/MensRights06/06/17 06:35 PM
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So you mean focused as in "does it lead to gainful employment later-on"? Yes. University education costs resources and time. It should have a payback. If not, it's a luxury, and should be considered as such. From your earlier comment: I guess it also helps that both ETHZ and EPFL are like 90% STEM oriented. If this is even close to typical of Swiss universities, then your colleges are very focused. Over the last 50 years in the US, the number of college students has increased, but the percentage…
/r/MensRights03/06/17 08:14 PM
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Having colleges responsible for the loan is a great idea but they will argue that detracts from their core educational mission. Aren't they already in a way? I'm not seeing it. In the for-profit world, I'm seeing admissions departments that act like sales departments. In the typical university world, I'm seeing state funding for more and more students, coupled and supported by increased student loans, but not returning on that supposed investment. Students could low cost but choosing academics o…
/r/MensRights03/06/17 08:06 PM
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That's what bankruptcy used to be for. It was hard to get a loan because lenders wanted assurances. Right! But lending money to college students is highly risky! It's why credit cards for college students have 25% interest rates! So to keep interest rates artificially low, student loans are deeply 'secured'. They can't be discharged in bankruptcy, and if they go into default, they are paid by things like tax return refunds. If China can send millions of people to college cheaply, soon. Ummmm, no…
/r/MensRights03/06/17 07:55 PM
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Won't that show unfairly discriminate against the true outliers from whom the actual major awarded has little to do with their chosen career after graduation No. The statistics are pretty clear that some will do better than others. There are some majors which are almost certainly good values, and some where, to be frank, the degree isn't valuable enough to pay the student loan. It's perfectly reasonable to say that you need to have a B+ average in order to qualify for support. You don't like tha…
/r/MensRights03/06/17 06:38 AM
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Of course there are. So maybe we shouldn't allow student loans unless they meet certain criteria, GPA, or something? This is a trollish question, but I'm serious, too. Should we protect students from racking up loans in programs where the career prospects aren't very good? I have a completely different idea on how this would be done.
/r/MensRights03/06/17 05:34 AM
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focused - you have a lot fewer people receiving degrees using taxpayer funds, unless those degrees are more marketable. The US higher-ed system is criticized for offering degree programs in subjects which don't really increase future earnings for graduates. The chief examples are usually Liberal Arts for non-teachers. Getting a degree in Literature, Art, History or a Foreign Language doesn't usually have good career prospects unless a graduate is going to become a teacher. Further, a degree in P…
/r/MensRights03/06/17 05:07 AM
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I'm only going to guess, but education in Switzerland is probably more focused - you have a lot fewer people receiving degrees using taxpayer funds, unless those degrees are more marketable. Just a guess...
/r/MensRights03/06/17 12:38 AM
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On workplace injuries/deaths: This one really stuck with me when I read about it. Just as maternal deaths have been greatly reduced in recent years, we need to invest so much more in occupational health and safety research for men at risk in there workplaces. Thank you for acknowledging the problem, but your solution is not what I'd prefer. "Investing in health and safety" is a noble cause, but it also has the side effect of "making jobs too expensive, or just illegal". Too many controls on how …
/r/MensRights22/05/17 05:47 AM
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Correct, that's what I'm highlighting here. The original article is about lifestyles post-divorce.
/r/MensRights14/02/17 07:22 PM
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Surely their earning potential is somewhat reliant on their partner being the one to stay at home and run their private affairs. Yep. This is another reason why the argument for similar lifestyle falls short: Neither spouse is entitled to the same living standard, because the expenses of the split household are greater, and the income may be less as well.
/r/MensRights14/02/17 07:19 PM
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Not when they make 50% of what their husband makes, and the husband has their own personal bank account post-divorce.
/r/MensRights14/02/17 05:31 AM
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If women argue they are accustomed to a lifestyle what makes that argument less valid for the man, assuming he was the bread winner? It isn't less valid of an argument. However, in practice, the man is the one making much more money, and having control over that money. Therefore, women have the advantage in this discussion, as the argument that the women is more vulnerable is much more easy to make. However, that's why the whole concept of Men's Rights is important: because those rules don't alw…
/r/MensRights14/02/17 01:30 AM
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Simple economics: things are cheaper as a couple. Most notably housing - two people can share a house quite efficiently compared to each person having their own home. It naturally follows that after a divorce, the resulting two parties cannot each afford the same quality/size of house that they had been living in before.
/r/MensRights14/02/17 01:27 AM
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I recall that the largest factor is marriage. If you match up men vs. never married women, the wage gap pretty much disappears, replaced by other important things like industry, educational background, specialization, etc.
/r/MensRights03/02/17 07:34 AM
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That last sentence was the best example of a mic drop that I've ever seen.
/r/MensRights29/01/17 06:32 AM
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In all seriousness, that only works for a first job. That's less important then some people think, because after 5 years, your first job isn't really meaningful any more. But in some ways, it's much more important than you think, because joining the economic system is critical to future income. If you are poor and like in a predominantly black area, you don't have a 'friend of your Dad's who hires a couple of kids every summer'. But for a job requiring a university degree? The sarcasm is noted, …
/r/MensRights11/12/16 10:33 PM
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I got this, too. But I also got the "keep the door open if there's a girl in your room" speech, too. I first thought this was a crazy Christian rule. Now I understand it as a two-fold issue: one is to protect yourself from a false accusation, and the other is that sexual communication is very much nonverbal. Later on, I got a similar speech when I was in teacher training: never be alone with a student in a closed room. The issue of protection, especially with a male teacher, is real.
/r/MensRights06/12/16 01:54 AM
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One Econ professor, on day 1 of class, saw I was a dual major with theater and asked, "Why, are you planning to be a politician?" Too funny. Dead-on true, but funny.
/r/MensRights30/11/16 01:48 AM
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Looks like I'm the best of both worlds. I have a guess: Those intolerant economics types definitely appreciate your Theatre degree. But the students and professors in the theatre department aren't as tolerant of your economics knowledge.
/r/MensRights29/11/16 10:44 PM
4

Another angle: If this happened in the United States, there would be medical bills to pay. Ms Walpole would have a civil suit on her hands, and would be liable for damages including medical bills, and compensation from any scarring. But since the medical care was all 'free' under NHS, the 'damage' caused by Walpole is reduced. Perhaps NHS could sue her for damages?
/r/MensRights15/09/16 12:58 AM
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'cis' is the Latin root, meaning is 'from this side', so basically the 'opposite of trans'. I have never heard it spoken. The root comes from the 'k' sound, not the 's' sound, which would confuse it with the latin root 'to cut', which is found in words like 'precision' and 'decide', not to mention 'scissors'. I still associate 'cis' with mathematical notation where it connects imaginary numbers in polar coordinates.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 08:48 PM
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It's an attempt to label and dehumanize. One one level, it's a Shibboleth, used to identify those who do and do not use this language. If you don't use this language, you are worthy of ridicule, not a real human being. It's also an attempt to put a non-disadvantaged group on an opposite of a 'euphemism treadmill'. Formal, non-insulting words that describe people with negative attributes will tend to become insulting. My favorite examples are 'crippled' and 'retarded', both of which were the stan…
/r/MensRights11/09/16 06:19 PM
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Like the 3rd wave, but with incredible volumes of government funding.
/r/MensRights11/09/16 06:18 PM
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No, but the Men's community has an opportunity to educate women as to their privilege, and encourage common ground as to how this type of behavior may appear beneficial, but is actually harmful.
/r/MensRights01/08/16 08:35 PM
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Not entirely sad. Despite college men's sports (especially non-income producing ones) having much higher participation than women's sports, tons of men's sports were cut in order to budget an equal amount of women's sports. These 'men only' services were cut in the interest of 'equality'. So I think that 'women's only' services being cut in the interest of 'equality' are just fine.
/r/MensRights01/08/16 07:35 PM
2

Trump lies more often than she does...he just gets away with it. You are right here... and nobody grills him on it really, But terribly wrong here. Trump is regularly getting his butt kicked in the media. However, Clinton is not. Nobody from the media is attacking her on the Clinton Foundation, nobody is attacking her about taking money from Goldman Sachs, nobody is attacking her pattern of misinformation from Benghazi, nobody is attacking her for her careless handling of e-mails. There is evide…
/r/MensRights25/07/16 08:06 PM
3

First off, you are in a 'social problems' class. The title of this class suggests that it is designed to frame existing hard data into 'problems' that require 'action'. You aren't studying different sociological perspectives between men and women with respect to career - the class is to take that information and present it as a 'problem', even though its not a problem. If you want to do research, start with the actual BLS report and a basic level critique It's also worth pointing out that women …
/r/MensRights04/03/16 11:02 PM
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And there's even more who would recognize the inequality, but insist that nothing be done about it because "women have it worse overall." The SJW element of feminism is that Women are, by nature of the patriarchy, treated unequally inferior to men. To admit that there are parts of society where women are treated fairly or preferentially is, a priori unacceptable and contrary to the philosophy. Feminism wants to avoid such comparisons for a few reasons. One that I can think of is that if there we…
/r/MensRights13/06/15 10:44 PM
5

I'll bite: A realist is what a pessimist calls an optimist? If it doesn't work, please stop at 5 downvotes...
/r/MensRights13/06/15 10:35 PM
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Generally men's issues are not socially acceptable to talk about Not to mention that culturally, men are generally discouraged to talk about emotional and social issues. There is an expectation to 'suck it up', 'be a man', and behave as if emotions don't exist.
/r/MensRights05/05/15 09:16 PM
3

I can't agree more. This should be the Men's Rights focus. Not bad testing. To clarify: the disparate impact from bad DNA testing is not because of the DNA testing, but because of other issues rampant within the system.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 09:45 PM
2

Recognizing the injustice here, I'm not seeing a particular anti-male angle here. The reason that there is a disparate impact on males is because males commit more crime than females. We could talk about male/female death sentencing rates here, or other disparities in the justice system, but this doesn't feel like one of them to me.
/r/MensRights20/04/15 06:49 PM
1

The view from my desk: most hair stylists and barbers do just that. I live in a racially diverse area, and all four major racial groups have their own places, too. Businesses specialize in their own things, and are owned people with their own preferences. Discrimination is an important part of everyone's life. And individuals have the right to their beliefs, and should bear the responsibility for the outcomes of their beliefs.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 03:28 PM
3

I personally wouldn't sue. Business owners have a right to be jerks, and have a right to lose business in exchange for being jerks.
/r/MensRights02/04/15 12:38 AM
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If we're going to accept microaggression as a legitimate concept, I think this fits the description, with room to spare.
/r/MensRights01/04/15 10:39 PM
14

My guess: Neither lesbian, unless one can be identified as more assertive. All drunk homosexual males would be charged.
/r/MensRights13/02/15 02:02 AM
2

I work as a financial analyst, and I'm not getting it, either. What is the difference between "Pay", "Wages", and "Earnings" in this context? Would there be a gap in one but not the other?
/r/MensRights22/12/14 07:30 PM
3

You say not all rape cases are made up? And stay the hell away from my M&Ms.
/r/MensRights06/11/14 01:31 AM
1

The ones that I can respond to most quickly. Usually items which I have put some thought into in the past.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 05:05 PM
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Finding the low-hanging fruit. On "Lie #2". Chivalry is descended from recognizing women as equals, deferring to them despite having biological advantages in stature and strength. As a framework for gentlemanly conduct, chivalry is about equality, not condescension. It's not about men placing themselves as dominant, it's about leveling the playing field in ways there may be inherent, unavoidable inequality. On "Lie #3". The settlement of lawsuits is directly related to the anticipated outcome of…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 01:06 AM
1

Exactly. In my communication strategy, I use the same principle. They have an easy, poorly researched fact that is 'true', but over-simplified. I respond with one that is true, but over-simplified. Here are my two favorites. The on-the-job death rate for men is 10 times higher than for women. That's why men deserve more. Women choose lower paying careers, less math and science, less specialization.
/r/MensRights21/05/14 06:38 PM
1

My guess? The wage gap doesn't reverse itself. No matter what job, whether you are a geological engineer or paper pusher, women get pretty darn much the same pay for the same work. And the AAUW doesn't want to admit that. Just because something is 'unexplained', doesn't mean it fits anyone's agenda. Obama's repetition of the 77% gap myth (on all workers, not just the AAUW's college grad study) shows how pervasive this problem is. My quick and dirty reply is: "The on-the-job death rate for me is …
/r/MensRights21/05/14 06:28 PM
6

First, note that the AAUW is a liberal/progressive organization whose existence depends, in part, on a narrative of women's discrimination with respect to college educated women. Here's my breakdown: They claim that women earn 82% of what men do, a difference of 18%, based on college graduates working full time, one year after graduation. First off, they note that when controlling for major, the difference, the difference drops to 11%. In addition men work an average of 45 hours per week, vs. 43…
/r/MensRights20/05/14 10:30 PM
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