CatholicChanner Archive

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–	Why do men push for 50/50 relationship when women find most men unattractive? It's never going to be completely 50/50 in any given relationship across a variety of metrics, there are always some things one partner does better than the other partner. For me I lack some things presently and in the past but have made up for it in terms of emotional labor/support to my women and sometimes being more of the breadwinner and they have lacked some things but made up for it in other ways. The best you can hope for is that relatively equal once everything is taken into account so y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 06:04 AM
1	Men being okay with women who are insecure or have low self esteem is not due to them being easier to push around, this is false and plain misandry, at the same time women dont date the male counterparts, not because of righteousness or virtue, but because they find those men unattractive Not all men, I deeply value the above personally, I can't stand the average bland normie woman even if she was a 10/10 looks wise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/24 10:36 PM
1	Q4M: What's your feelings towards women? Yep the search is hard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 09:04 AM
3	Q4M: What's your feelings towards women? More or less how I feel at this point, there are genuinely sweethearts out there, unfortunately most of them seem to be taken. I just want my kind weirdo nerdy wife so I can fuck off and never play this dating game again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 05:47 AM
2	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? Sure, but if I held the mindset of that girl you mentioned instead of the one I have where I am at least willing to try and not judge based on my bad experiences with two women, I would be locking myself out of the vast majority of modern women who could be good for me in many other ways or possibly finding out that when done -properly-, it is actually enjoyable because sex with different people is different. Can I also get some feedback on the how you(I'm assuming you are the one with this issu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 12:34 AM
1	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? It may not be painful but it can be literally disgusting to the point you want to vomit and you don't want to do it again. 95% of women would not be empathetic about this however and tell you to get over it (maybe with some tips about how the women can be more hygenic) rather than them being understanding and foregoing it for life-I know, I've read the threads on AskWomen, etc, funny how the standard reverses when you gender flip it though. RE that situation is different than the most usual situ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 12:20 AM
2	Q4Men: Would you be mad if your friend didn’t let you stay overnight at his house after a bad experience with a house guest that overstayed? If not, then why be bitter if a woman has boundaries that she may not have had in the past? At some point you have to not compare your lifetime partner against people in the past and judge them on their own merits even if it is scary. If I compared a potential future wife against my two ex girlfriends there are some things I would just never do e.g.giving her oral sex just because I had very bad experiences with two women is that remotely fair that she would NEVER get to enjoy that our entire 50+ year marital relationship because it was bad with those two women, even if that is somethi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 11:48 PM
–	"The average man is attracted to the average women, but the average women isn't attracted to the average man." Honestly I feel the same, we're treated as effectively disposable and the women often move on very fast even if you were with them and sacrificed for years or even decades, the switch happens (usually when you're going through a hard time yourself), and all the previous shit you did and endured for her does not matter at all, you're cast aside and they usually find someone new within months. I'm doing a lot of self-improvement but even as I am now I have had offers for sex et al and I just feel …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 06:43 AM
6	Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating. It's not even that I think, they could still get plenty of nonwhite men e.g. Indian, SEA, EA especially the Americanized ones if they gave them the chance, but a lot don't see those men as options so it does not count, it's just that when they have actual competition and aren't treated like a pretty princess like they usually are even by white men who they would never date, they get angry, it's more so about entitlement than anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 01:18 AM
7	Nothing makes many western women more angry than women in other countries, especially non-western countries, having happy relationships with men that those western women think they shouldn't be dating. I have actually seen this OP but not so much "passport broing" but if they are getting ignored for a woman from one of these countries, e.g. I remember some article by an average looking white girl in Japan(far from an impoverished country and where many women make more than a lot of men) who was absolutely seething that average and below-average white men were getting very good looking comparatively speaking Japanese girls while ignoring her along with Japanese men ignoring her as well. I see t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 01:04 AM
13	Women marry guys who they deem as losers In general there are going to be roughly two responses to your thread, give or take some variations. (1) is that these men have some qualities that are not apparent on the surface from your outside perspective, maybe he is amazing in bed compared to the more conventionally attractive boys, funnier, or shines in some way that makes her genuinely prefer and be happy with him over her other former options, or maybe he is or non-conventional type, or some of the above. (2) She is actually just settl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 09:45 AM
1	For better or worse!? However in the scenario, should a couple have children and both are accessing the workforce and one party wishes to end a marriage the default is unlikely to be a traditional marriage but a variation of semi separation but cohabitation due to mutual financial necessity. Direct access to income and employment skills has always been a challenge to traditional roles. This already happened during Covid and to some degree still happens today. It would just increase a lot and over time I think women a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 08:52 AM
0	I think wealthy men do actually care about how much money a woman has It's actually fairly common for a rich man's wife or favorite woman to not be spectacular looking or young and be valued for other qualities. SBF's favorite was Caroline Ellison when he could have been pulling 10/10 models with his cash daily>! because she is apparently incredibly enthusiastic with no limits and insane in bed especially on amphetamines!<and she was neither particularly young or a conventional looker. If you read Bezos's cringey leaked texts he values that woman for that reason a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 04:53 AM
1	For better or worse!? I think it would be very difficult to avoid if were strict on the no welfare/no child support rule, some high earning women would be fine but a lot of average and below average earning women would be SOL in such a scenario since they would have to care for a child all alone without the benefits of welfare or support from the male unless women collectively banded together and voluntarily pooled money for the communal care, but that would just be welfare in the form of charity or otherwise guilted…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 03:14 AM
–	Men have good oportunities as they age,if youre doing the grind. I remember my mother and grandmother being extremely blunt telling me that this is what most women looked for (eg high paying job, nice car, good apartment etc), I rebelled thinking there was no way this could be true being naive, instead they were just trying to warn me. As I get older I see more and more that they were right about the transactional nature for a lot of women. Not all, I think, but the number is rather shocking and you would not believe it were you not a man who has been through…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 03:03 AM
–	Men have good oportunities as they age,if youre doing the grind. I see plenty of them in the Catholic sphere until around 22-25 or so if you are going by traditionally handsome without work, but I can see a lot getting locked down before then. Still lots of decent looking and decent earning religious men even in their 30s to early 40s, no one wants them really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:57 AM
1	For better or worse!? I'm not discussing the reality of his scenario, he set it up in the framework that it all changes and is -never- going to return. There will be initial chaos but people will adjust over time in his theoretical scenario where we can -never- go back.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:53 AM
1	For better or worse!? OP didn't just say welfare and divorce, he mentioned no abortion or child support either, when combined with no welfare and no divorce that leaves a pregnant woman and her relatives effectively SOL if he chooses to leave/she chooses to leave or gets pregnant outside of wedlock, the burden then becomes all on her unless she convinces him to stay or she gets her relatives to collar him one way or the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:49 AM
–	Men have good oportunities as they age,if youre doing the grind. Yeah you got him young before he got locked down, lel, I guess collar your man young if you want that type easily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:45 AM
–	Men have good oportunities as they age,if youre doing the grind. These men aren't really abundant to the average woman, if you want a fit, good work ethic, handsome, moral religious young man you are competing with fit, religious, traditional religious women who usually lock them down extremely early and mate guard them heavily. That's not to say you cannot find a religious, moral man and then help him along to eventually become fit with a good work ethic, but it does not seem women want to put in the work required there, so by the time that man gets everythi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:27 AM
–	Men have good oportunities as they age,if youre doing the grind. It isn't their sole ambition to get their "dick wet" as you put it, 80% of men aren't even dating looking for casual sex specifically according to polls, but a relationship. The problem is despite this age of "equality" men by and by are still expected to adhere to all the traditional roles and make as much or more money than women and a host of other things to even have a chance at this, and many men are realizing the juice is not worth the squeeze in the returns they get, you see it in terms s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 02:05 AM
1	For better or worse!? A lot of women here will argue that society would simply completely collapse due to a complete destruction of birth rates, but that was not the case when none of the above existed, and is still not the case in countries where none of the above are really a thing. If you removed all welfare that would subsidize single mothers in addition to the above you would see people going back to more traditional society where people tended to marry off younger/sex was discouraged because it would then be on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 01:51 AM
–	Men have good oportunities as they age,if youre doing the grind. Do what all the women on this sub say they love doing here which is live without being tied down to a member of the opposite sex and all their problems and do the bare minimum to survive so you are not milked for tax money either. That is already beginning to cause problems and will cause more in the future, but apparently it's "not their problem" to fix this issue so we might as well do what we want too. <image>	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/04/24 01:32 AM
3	What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like? IMHO Islam is a terrible religion made up by a man at best and satanic at worst and I don’t think the Church inherently serves women, but a lot of people don’t follow the teachings where it is supposed to be relatively equal. I’m fairly confident the Church will do fine but needs to be careful this century. Men get screwed over in Islam as well it’s just less obvious to westerners, plenty of bitter MENA men either trapped in marriages they hate or incels and they still have to follow all the Isl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 11:02 PM
3	What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like? I’m out but I’ll look at that video later. It is bad particularly for Catholic men because it’s generally seen as a net negative for women who aren’t particularly faithful or neutral at best and Catholic women don’t really seem to be holding out for Catholic men as a lot of them happily marry atheist or agnostic men who see their modesty and generally lower promiscuity as a plus as long as they meet other standards and they tend to gravitate hard towards the traditional masculine male type where…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 10:27 PM
11	What would addressing structural inequality in dating actually look like? I feel like this is more of a historical anomaly transition period where certain people just get screwed until a new, more equitable normal is established. I kind of see it in the Catholic dating scene where a lot of the older Catholic women still expect the man to be able to provide her dream trad SAHM lifestyle like her father was able to provide her mother, but the younger ones who grew up with higher housing prices and more terrible wages are much more practical at least in the US. I don't t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 11:07 AM
1	Women aren't happier being single than men as the studies claim. They're never truly single to begin with Lack of access to men silly, a lot were in their apartments, at home with family, or were afraid to go out or date during that time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 10:16 AM
1	Women aren't happier being single than men as the studies claim. They're never truly single to begin with Would be really interesting to see a continuation after Covid lockdowns ended tbh, that may have equalized something temporarily but it's probably back to men being more sexless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 10:06 AM
2	Women aren't happier being single than men as the studies claim. They're never truly single to begin with You're telling me in all this woman's travels across the globe where she is supposedly meeting a ton of men she has not found a singular man who could be somehow useful?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 08:46 AM
4	Women aren't happier being single than men as the studies claim. They're never truly single to begin with Okay it should not take you long to find it then, I'll wait, I'm really interested in this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 08:44 AM
8	Women aren't happier being single than men as the studies claim. They're never truly single to begin with There are more sexless women than sexless men. Please give a citation because I don't see that either from anecdotal experience or from studies of <40 men. Once a ton of men die off in their 50s and 60s maybe. I browse a few dating communities and see men single or sexless for years while watching women even with low effort posts get picked up in literal days and the ones who do not are usually holding out for something in particular or are actually certifiably mental, at least in the USA.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 08:13 AM
4	Women aren't happier being single than men as the studies claim. They're never truly single to begin with What is this ROI you are speaking of exactly? What would a man have to do in order to be considered worthy of your time, or be?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/04/24 08:10 AM
–	Why do some women seem to refuse facts to remain miserable? Can you illuminate me?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 11:11 AM
–	Why do some women seem to refuse facts to remain miserable? I've talked to some supposed "femcels" on here and elsewhere just kind of to see if they were really were, they would go on and out about how they were the ugliest women in the world and how no man would date them. In reality most were actually pretty cute in my opinion, some beautiful, average, etc, or at least dateable and had some fun nerdy interests. But they would reject reality hard if you point all that out and then get angry with you and turn on you when you were just stating your honest…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 11:07 AM
9	Q4Men: Would you accept a woman with a “promiscuous past” if all the men she hooked up with were very unattractive? This.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 11:27 PM
–	What is it about women that makes it easier for them to move on/move on faster, and for "smaller" reasons than men? Imho the ability of women to fuck with men's heads with mental manipulation games is at least equal to her gaining three feet in height and 100 pounds of muscle if it were a physical battle.I have seen the strongest, most intelligent men emotionally destroyed, afraid, and defeated by something like a 5'0 woman. Some even killed themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 01:46 AM
1	What is it about women that makes it easier for them to move on/move on faster, and for "smaller" reasons than men? Maybe some women, but definitely not all women do that or are even remotely clear that things need to be worked on or they will break up, sometimes it's just small subtle hints that she is displeased and she acts fine and loving the next day and goes on about how she loves you et al, then breaks up with you later because you didn't magically read her mind that these small hints of not being perfectly happy from time to time are actually giant red flag warning signs with the alarm screeching out …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 01:43 AM
1	What is it about women that makes it easier for them to move on/move on faster, and for "smaller" reasons than men? That's not a good idea, it will just traumatize him further than he already is, you run into these types of women and they have close to zero capacity to have the introspection to even admit intellectually what they did was wrong, let alone remotely feel any actual remorse for the man, they are always right in their minds in the end. He just needs to move on, be careful, and hopefully an actually genuine woman into him (if ever) can maybe undo some of the damage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 01:34 AM
1	What is it about women that makes it easier for them to move on/move on faster, and for "smaller" reasons than men? Had the same experience twice, one with a gf of 2.5 years and then one with a best friend who I thought I knew for TEN YEARS to pull that on me once I dated her for another 2 years. The flip switches and they become cruel asf and the latter betrayal basically destroyed my ability to trust in women for three years, tried dating but I was just so on edge and afraid of that shit I just couldn't bring myself to be emotionally stable or present enough. Now I'm very careful and guarded and think I can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 01:23 AM
9	What is it about women that makes it easier for them to move on/move on faster, and for "smaller" reasons than men? There are a lot more women than the women here would like to admit who have little to no empathy or tolerance for a man's weakness or opening up about his problems which leads to men being pathologically afraid to open up these days because we have all experienced a woman like that and it is so traumatizing to finally open up and then be treated like shit that we almost never do it again or trust a woman like that again. The number one thing I look for these days is genuine empathy over pretty m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 01:06 AM
0	Why the traditional way was better for both genders I don't know about this being a history major, more than a few women were not attracted to their husbands at first but genuinely came to love them over time if you read their diaries and ended up happy. Ofc the opposite happened too where they were just miserable and made the life of the man a living nightmarish hell while belittling him and undermining him at every turn (don't ever marry a Russian woman unless she genuinely loves you). There were also women who really did love men who would pro…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 12:57 AM
–	Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare] Similar experience as you, yeah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 10:56 PM
–	Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare] Yep	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 10:53 PM
–	Men are still expected to be the breadwinners in an age where young women out-earn young men [Resubmitted for wrong flare] Agreed	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 10:52 PM
2	What’s considered being single by choice? Ah okay, gotcha, it's just I see women even using just Reddit somewhat seriously get snapped up like that if they stick with it. One of them I see posted the most low effort profile of all time on one of the subs with literally one sentence about herself and already found someone she wanted to date within 3 days.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:40 AM
6	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating I feel like income only helps up to a certain point if your goal is genuine love. There's some doctor guy on here clearing what he said was close to a million a year or something and he still can't pull more than mid women in his words and is always posting about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:27 AM
4	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating I meant for income lol, you can't "do" height.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:23 AM
1	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating What do you do to be in the top 2% of all adults and top 1% of men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 04:07 AM
5	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Not really but you are okay to have that opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/24 02:21 AM
1	What’s considered being single by choice? You did not meet one potential quality man on any of these? At all? Not a single one? Shit, I am a guy and it is horrible for us and I usually find at least a few every six months or so-whether they respond is another thing since men get ignored but not one messaged you?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:34 PM
1	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Do you just not believe in scientific statistical surveys? They work for almost everything pretty well. It's not going to go away anytime soon imho. Looking at it, it's just going to get worse through at least 2030.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:32 PM
7	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Know that if you do succeed you beat the odds and can be proud brother.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:24 PM
2	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating You're just gonna have to go for volume which sucks hard as a man but what most of us are forced to these days until you find a woman okay with you being short and black, or bank on reactive attraction where you make a move and a girl who might not have been interested starts being interested because you made the move (it happens). Get used to rejection and ghosting now as a young man because that's the bull we have to put up with and no trust me there is no real reasoning behind it, girls go fu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:19 PM
12	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Nah you still got lucky, fat women's standards don't magically change just because they are fat. Plenty of fat women rejecting average looking and chubby/fat guys all the time. They're not interested in their looksmatch or tier necessarily.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:08 PM
-1	What’s considered being single by choice? Have you legitimately tried dating websites?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:05 PM
2	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Yeah I've heard it sucks for short, non-masculine black men. Maybe Latinas?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 11:01 PM
4	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating I find black women, especially nerdier black women, are the most open to deviations from the masculine norm and are very nice.Latinas I don't have experience with but anecdotally I see them dating fairly small men decently often. Tbh you have no idea how much I wish I could change my apparent genetically hardcoded preference for white and some Asian women to black women, it would make my life 100x easier.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:50 PM
6	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating It's not impossible per say just disproportionately difficult especially if he is going for White/Asian women. Indian, SEA, non-hyper masculine/tall Black/even East Asian men will likely agree. Hispanics seem to do a bit better for some reason at least where I live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:44 PM
7	What’s considered being single by choice? She's effectively single by choice, yes. I'm finding it hard to believe as a woman she did not meet a single quality man from 20-30 unless she deliberately decided to turn them down, lived as a nun(and even nuns get men interested in them unless they are cloistered), or has ridiculous standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:40 PM
2	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Okay if statistics mean nothing to you even though we use them for everything in life including important financial and government decisions and this should be no different. And no I am seeing it espoused more and more, they aren't as explicit and don't say it around women especially in public but that doesn't mean it isn't being thought and talked about much more than it used to be. Back in 2015 it was legitimately a fringe group online you had to look pretty hard to find. Now shit like incel h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:32 PM
23	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Same as a 6'2 white guy preparing for grad school atm. It's over for short ethnic men, at least in the West, unless he is willing to play on legendary mode.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:18 PM
5	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating Look harder tbh. It is quite common if you know a lot of younger men. I see more young men without gfs than men with them and I live near two major metropolitan areas. Not uncommon for them to go months or years without a gf. I believe there are also studies confirming more young women are in relationships than men by a large amount too. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/amp/	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 10:11 PM
36	The only reason why men and women aren't understanding each other is cause both of them are in different phases in dating I just don't think any woman like under 50 unless she is a rare genuine femcel or close to one really understands what it is like for men in dating, at least average to below average men, with how few options or no options men get. Like how it is perfectly reasonable for such men to get no options for months or years unless he goes through an inordinate amount of effort and expense and such is normal, we're not talking not great options, like no options. Which is why a lot of their advice is gen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 09:48 PM
–	Men adapt to women's needs therefore women are the problem It is partly our problem because we don't as a group say enough is enough, fuck off to them nearly as much as we should, although I get the feeling that is beginning to change a bit especially with younger men. This applies to the West ofc, other countries may be different. Presently it is more of a subtle rebellion where men just don't do committed relationships or just decide to opt out entirely or just aren't really aggressive or care that much eg Japan's herbivore man problem but getting wor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 09:19 PM
4	I think the reason I don’t want to date short men is because they were the first guys to reject me I thank God every single time I read shit about short men I am not short. I go out of my way to be nicer to short men and try to help them, the daily living nightmare they live in means all tall and average men need to be looking out for their short brothers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 10:53 PM
6	I think the reason I don’t want to date short men is because they were the first guys to reject me Lmao I know right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 09:23 PM
1	What is your experience chatting with women? I don't disagree, except when #1 has an actual emergency or something, but she will usually find the time to send a quick text.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 05:00 PM
4	How would an IQ score on your ID card affect dating or society in general? This, smartest guy I ever knew had a 165 IQ verified and went to MIT acing all his classes, made a lot of money even. He's still an incel at 33 because he didn't have height + looks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 04:58 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. If I provide a link people will 100% shit all over her and she still uses her Reddit account, I'm not gonna do that to the woman after she was honest. She says she "loves" her husband in her posts and seems okay with her choice and has a kid with him if you are wondering how she feels, and says his other qualities are great and he is stable, but I'm pretty sure her husband of decades doesn't know he's considered economy class here and won't ever compare...	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 03:04 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. I wouldn't fucking rate her as economy class for life woman even if I did. If she was enthusiastic because she actually loved me and was willing to learn even if she was a virgin I am 100% sure she would end up being my best overall lover. The issue is with the woman in the picture is her husband IS enthusiastic, he DID learn, she "loves" him but she STILL rates him economy class overall after decades of marriage compared to some random guy in her past.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 02:51 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. That doesn't mean I compare my partners like this chick does in bed, I elaborated on it more in other posts. I'm also far from a manwhore and can count the number of people on half of one hand so she's not competing with a bordello here even if I did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 02:37 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. <image> The "I'm not in that place anymore" excuse always makes me react like pic when I see it come up over and over in relationship advice with it 98% of the time being the guy and you can tell he is dying inside but everyone says cope deal with it. A few will tell him the truth to just leave and find a woman who is actually into him but they usually get dogpiled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 01:51 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. Your experience mirrors a lot of the "Chad" types tbh. They are unable to trust women for LTRs and are actually not really happy about this at all deep down/lowkey depressed but have just seen too much to ever do it/have become too pathologically paranoid to do so. In many ways they are more bitter than many actual incels because the incel can maybe still hold out the tiniest bit of hope a woman will love and be loyal to him, but a lot of men who have been around a lot are unable to do that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 01:14 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. I actually had one GF when I was a virgin who had around five or so partners and probably like 3 women in addition and it was genuinely fine because she was super into me, made it clear and actually wanted it a ton more than I did even, and outright mentioned I was the best for her after some period of time without prompting and I caught her saying to her friend I was as well eavesdropping on it when she didn't know I was there. So maybe it's not only date a virgin or w/e and you have to find a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:56 PM
2	Do you ever cry in front of your girlfriend/wife (current or previous)? One was fine and comforted me and did not seem to really hold it against me but when I showed weakness in another area she started to do the thing women do where they slow fade you and then break up with you. Another I showed weakness one time and then proceeded to do a slow 7 month withdrawal with nothing I could do about it and I was naive enough to think she was different because I had known her for so long. I'm done putting up acts now about my problems, if women don't like it as the guy sai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:42 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. I don't want to say the sub because I don't want her hunted down for her honest and extremely illuminating opinion, but it is a women's sub and many women were posting similar things admitting their husbands were not the best in bed and never could be compared to guys from their past, especially if they had slept around a lot before marriage. They mention being with them for other things, sure, but man... I wouldn't care as much about money or vacations man, but telling you straight up you will …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:35 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. Read the actual post that I posted instead of making up bullshit that was never said. She admitted he was doing everything right that she told him and had regular orgasms, but could just never compare to the past men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:29 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. Okay but many women freely admit that their husband of decades can be doing everything right and still not compare to some random douchebag in the past for various reasons, just see my other excerpt in this thread, she calls her husband economy class and serviceable while comparing her past lovers to being first class and great. It's completely fine to not want that for your own marriage to someone you are dedicating your life to and to walk away, Jesus Christ, that's not just an insecurity it's…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:18 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. Already getting -heavy- downvotes on the comment simply for posting this by people who refuse to see the truth that more than a few people people do think like this. And no, it's not a troll account, I didn't want her bothered so I blocked out her name but it's a genuine woman with multiple years of Reddit history and she talks about her kid and many other things. I had hoped it was bait...but it isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:12 PM
–	Women settle down with and seriously date lesser men, but still hold toxic men from their past in a higher regard. <image> This is why I am afraid of dating women who had a promiscuous past tbh. This is not the only woman who posted feeling this way...I don't want to be seen as "economy class" in the bedroom... Edit for more clarity: She does "love" him. She says she is happy and his a kid with him even. But she still affirms he's economy class and will likely be, even after decades of marriage.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 12:04 PM
–	Would love to hear different explanations for the difference in answers Look at Men's sub, everyone including women are allowed to post their opinions even if a lot of men disagree with it. Look at Women's sub, [deleted] and censored harder than the Chinese internet. Haha...	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 11:30 AM
0	Women are standoffish to men far more frequently than vice versa If you are young do not do this. I know it really sucks for young guys these days but you can get the shitty experience needed to mature and filter out bad women even if it is painful, and maybe still find someone who is good for you before they are snatched up. The options only seem to get worse as you get older as a man, yes you get more successful in the things women want (eg career success, more money) etc but it gets harder and harder to determine if she actually loves you because of those …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 10:10 AM
30	Women are standoffish to men far more frequently than vice versa Just be a telepathic mind reader and know where and when exactly an individual woman wants to be approached and if she considers you attractive enough to not be creeped out or feel in danger by it. I see many Catholic women whining about this online and IRL about men never approaching anymore at church/functions, then many of them saying they are creeped out if a man approaches them at church or at such functions, then when people suggest they approach men they say no they don't want to do that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 09:38 AM
4	Even if dating apps were majority women, they results would still be the same Maybe, but it would still be a lot better than the 4:1(on more niche sites/communities)-12:1 (in more general ones) ratio we have now and since for average men volume is key it would help a lot. Feels like a gladiator arena match in OLD.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 06:50 AM
1	Older man/younger woman relationships are ideal Good on you, you supported her and vice versa, lucky man. This is the type that works imho, committed to each other and not just using each other for resources or sex or weird game bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 06:43 AM
2	Older man/younger woman relationships are ideal That's an attractive secular young women oriented perspective, I'm not seeing the majority of young men out there absolutely slaying in their early 20s and having all their fun, I see more doing that in their late twenties to early thirties making up for the time they missed out on when younger and ignored now that they are more desirable tbh. Nor are a lot of average and below average women out there slaying and having casual sex all the time or those who hold different moral standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 06:41 AM
1	For men - things you can't control are what is most attractive whereas things you can control are of minor value You can change looks via weight loss a lot but if you're not the type the woman is at least theoretically open to it's over and for people who lose weight you will always wonder what will happen if you get sick or something or depressed and gain the weight back they will just dump you without warning. You can do some changes to personality via perspective and learning but there's a limit before you feel like you're putting on an act. Actually short and not meme short (5'5 and lower instead of st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/24 06:31 AM
2	The idea of men wanting traditional pure wives is false in reality There's nothing wrong with a man wanting the traditional wife or a pure wife especially if he actually practices a religion and keeps such values. I would advise as someone who actually practices a religion there are many considerations to take into account and it's not just one thing or simply the fact she is no longer a virgin nor are there explicit gender roles prescribed in my religion in the sense the man must be the sole provider, wife must stay at home. Of course under my faith no one is …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/04/24 10:28 PM
3	Seems you're just as likely to lose a lady for taking things slowly than you are for moving too fast Thank you Gutz-san, it's just rough out there if you value monogamy and waiting for marriage (ideally)/not rushing for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 08:37 PM
5	Seems you're just as likely to lose a lady for taking things slowly than you are for moving too fast I don't think sex is inherently dirty, I do believe in saving it for people I love however, that has always been me and not just religious teaching.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 12:11 PM
3	Seems you're just as likely to lose a lady for taking things slowly than you are for moving too fast How am I supposed to figure this out however? Do I just ask? I feel like some women would get turned off by me asking this, but then again maybe they are not the right women for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 12:08 PM
11	Seems you're just as likely to lose a lady for taking things slowly than you are for moving too fast Lmao I guess it's truly over for Christian men in dating from some of these comments if I have to move sexually on her in the first one or two dates or she thinks I'm passive or not into her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 10:10 AM
4	Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances? I guess I could also get more women/higher chance of a gf and certainly more sex if I sociopathmaxxxed and engaged in lying/manipulation/emotional abuse like some men do. But that would be lowering myself and putting on some kind of act so I'm disinclined to do it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/04/24 12:40 AM
16	Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances? I am not concerned with the lack of women in my life, I am concerned with the lack of quality women in my life. If I really wanted to I could probably dumpster dive and/or go hard with volume to find people for sex but I just don't give a shit about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 10:13 PM
2	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? Your modern woman would be okay to date for me with no real problems assuming she held similar morals so yeah it does vary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:52 AM
10	Society looks the other way a lot more with women's toxic behavior in heterosexual relationships than with men's I have had one gf who was fine with me crying and I didn't get any blowback and another who was demonstrably less affectionate once I showed any kind of weakness so yes, it happens.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:49 AM
3	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? A lot of the religious ones still divorce and get all the above here with little blowback unless she is extremely hardcore religious which trust me is a very small number. And there's a growing secular trad lifestyle like I said above where they are not even religious and still expect the man to do what I said, that's the American experience anyway. This may be different in other areas of the world or other countries but our modrn trad women here are far from doormats.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:42 AM
6	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? I'm describing the American experience yeah, both secular and religious "trad wife". You absolutely have a ton of pressure on you as a man if you go for that due to our COLA and many traditional men work themselves sometimes to actual death here to provide that lifestyle. Your wife has you by the balls in such a relationship and if she doesn't like you can leave and you will be paying child support and alimony and also most likely lose your house and you get to continue to work to death without …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:32 AM
-2	What is a traditional women in your view and is it feasible in modern times? Just no lmao, I interact with a lot of genuine trad women in my Catholic dating sphere and most of them do not want to work at all and expect the man to provide especially after kids. They would not tolerate even porn at all and you would most likely get divorced if you cheated, if you are lucky you may get one chance for forgiveness. Beating is also a no. Men are expected to handle things like repairs et al and also contribute to some chores still as well. They also tend to expect you to be ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 09:14 AM
2	In your opinion, what are your thoughts on NYC dating scene, is it as bad as they say? Just be born with great bone structure to be attractive. Average bone structure bros...it's over...	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 04:28 AM
3	In your opinion, what are your thoughts on NYC dating scene, is it as bad as they say? How about SEA/East Asian/Indian men? I'm white but I acknowledge and do think they have it harder in America.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 04:01 AM
2	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke 175k(split the difference) is not simply decent buddy you are in the top 3% of men for your age bracket. It's fine for you to hold your standards and your goal to make as much money as possible and the traditional provider role but for us not hitting that level of income or who want to do things other then make money it's a bit different. Not hating, just providing perspective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 03:26 AM
1	In your opinion, what are your thoughts on NYC dating scene, is it as bad as they say? I don't think most men will tell you it is easy to go out there spinning plates and getting all the casual sex with women you would actually be okay showing to the public. Even TRP acknowledges you have to do a lot of BS as a man to pull that off and looking at the men who have done that many of them now lowkey will never trust women for LTRs again and I don't know if I would classify them as "happy". Women who tell you it is easy have literally no idea what dating is like for an average man in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 03:13 AM
6	In your opinion, what are your thoughts on NYC dating scene, is it as bad as they say? Don't even try to compare yourself to the average woman man it will break your mind, their experience is much different from us. You have to be very attractive or rich to pull it off and/or willing to dumpster dive your standards/morals for validation or sex. Even the most attractive men get slaughtered in sheer numbers by the most attractive women unless he is also rich.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 02:30 AM
10	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke I saw one of my dad's tradcon coworkers get married to a Mormon SAHM, man worked himself to the bone in Big Law to provide. Died of a stress related heart attack at 40 in front of me while I was interning there, was fine one minute, just collapsed dead the next, no chance to save him. He was pulling 90+ hour weeks because his wife wanted that lifestyle in a HCOLA area. I will never ever forget that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 02:24 AM
2	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke Lol and I know plenty of those men who hit both and are single for a long period of time or are actual incels even if they hit 1%. It's not enough to just be tall and make good money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 02:20 AM
3	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke This is what I have seen, yeah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 01:00 AM
8	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke It does seem many conflate the Christian lifestyle with the tradcon lifestyle of manly man sole provider in an era where everything is priced for two incomes yeah. I almost instantly throw those types out of my dating category unless I really like her and she explains that means something other than finances like a spiritual provider or something. I'm not going to kms trying to conform to traditional male expectations of being the sole provider when society has changed to make that not really fe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 12:29 AM
1	AWDTG Oh Jesus Christ I just looked into this, as if dating for men was not hard enough lmao.	/r/MensRights	02/04/24 12:07 AM
16	I'm tired of female experts on men. I genuinely think it is very difficult or impossible these days to understand the other gender's lived life experiences because it's just in such a different category like even how things are viewed and even on the individual level it is different. I only offer the male perspective on things and don't pretend to know what women are feeling. Communication is critical.	/r/MensRights	01/04/24 11:55 PM
9	Relationship expert says men shouldn't date if they're broke I'm so tired these days...so tired...I see this type of "advice" all the time in the Catholic/Christian dating sphere, where you think materialism would matter less, not more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 11:28 PM
8	If you're subscribed to OF or SC you don't deserve a Girlfriend Thank God I know myself and in my lowest moments would never fall hard enough to pay for an Only Fans and I don't care about Snap. I don't watch porn anymore but paying for it, let alone paying one girl for it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 06:14 PM
1	Man doesn't know His Place in Her Life: Enter the Wall > She would never tell you what your place is in her life. Some days she will flirt with you, some days she would send lewd selfies, and other days she acts like you are just a friend. She tries to leave you guessing about your place in her life. I would not put up with this BS for a moment these days, I like a clear line between friend and romantic interest, I'm not playing these retarded games.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:05 PM
2	I am tired of the rhetoric that "the friendzone" "isn't real" and the lack of acknowledgment that both sexes can be toxic in that scenario Sure, but at the same time it definitely does happen that a man who is not attracted to a girl initially can indeed fall in love with her over time and then actually find her physically extremely attractive. I would know, it is happened to me. I don't know if the effect can work to the extant where it would turn someone he actually literally finds disgustingly tier ugly, but definitely it can be a huge thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:00 PM
2	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. Yeah and those latter two are pretty obvious to men who just sit and watch even without datasets, albeit I would be cautious drawing inferences between wealth and actual love(hard to quantify) because a disturbingly large amount of women are happy to stay married to a man they feel just sort of eh about for his resources. That's why historically a lot of the wealthy men either stealthed hard with that until marriage or came up with some other more subtle or extreme ways of vetting or stuck with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:47 AM
2	I am tired of the rhetoric that "the friendzone" "isn't real" and the lack of acknowledgment that both sexes can be toxic in that scenario I agree that is possible for emotionally mature and experienced men to do but many men are either not that type or have not achieved that level of self-actualization on their dating years because that tends to happen with age for men later than it does for women and by the time it does many of those men have already found their gfs and wives and are loyal to them anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:40 AM
6	I am tired of the rhetoric that "the friendzone" "isn't real" and the lack of acknowledgment that both sexes can be toxic in that scenario You're not a bad person and historically people did not totally lash out and demonize people for this, more than a few couples were friends, or even best friends, for years before dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 10:20 AM
88	I am tired of the rhetoric that "the friendzone" "isn't real" and the lack of acknowledgment that both sexes can be toxic in that scenario One of the saddest things that happens is when someone genuinely becomes a friend and then falls in love over time due to personality etc, but then the person accuses them of only ever wanting to get in their pants and were never a real friend to begin with. I get there are a lot of people who are shitty and manipulative but there are genuine people where that happens and then they get so much hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 04:28 AM
6	Would girl who only sleeps with guys, who make her work for it, be treated the same as a girl who just sleeps around in general? Yes, some men really subscribe to ignorance is bliss or they are self-aware enough to know they would obsess about it way too much if they knew. Some men absolutely do want to know to make compatibility assessments eg a man who has chosen to be sexually conservative will likely ask and want to know so he can pair up with a woman who shares his values. Some want to make sure the woman is okay doing what he wants to explore in bed. And other reasons. What very few men want is lurid unprompted deta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 04:00 AM
10	Would girl who only sleeps with guys, who make her work for it, be treated the same as a girl who just sleeps around in general? Men, as a very wide general rule, are just more wary of higher ncount women for a variety of reasons from biological to social to religious to moral and that's an okay standard to have especially if the man doesn't sleep around himself. Men are allowed to value different things in dating than women. There are also some men who genuinely naturally don't care and other men who can be socialized into not caring as much or at all over time. As per your question there is a minority of men who see tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 02:53 AM
2	It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriends Yes you do in the modern first world with responsibilities and family concerns. I need to be reachable by people wherever I am so I cannot just have a landline.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 02:46 AM
6	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. I haven't really seen a correlation between appearance and standards like that tbh. Either a woman is okay dating short or she is not okay dating short just like she is okay dating fat or not. There are some beautiful women married to short men and would date them and ugly women who would not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 02:43 AM
3	Toxic women have little incentive to change because some men are just suckers for them. > All it takes is one bad experience with a truly toxic woman ending poorly to hopefully change their behavior. Took two for me and meeting a lot in OLD but I'm very much someone who has to learn his lesson by experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 01:43 AM
18	What about women with great relationship with their dad? How bad Is being compared to them ( and lose )? Good relationship with her dad and you are compared to her dad=she likes you a lot. Bad relationship with her dad and you are compared to her dad=it's over. Simplified but what I have found out to be true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 01:39 AM
3	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. Have you seriously considered moving to Asia or something where the women are shorter and so are the men? Or at least dating someone from there who does not have the Western height standards? A lot of the shorter guys I know have done this and have found success.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:51 AM
6	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. There are some dating height chart scientific studies I've seen where like 5'8/5'9 is the cutoff so you are not wrong since that is just about where 50 percent of American women will still date you. 5'5 and below I don't even want to post the percentage because I'm afraid some men reading this will actually kill themselves if they knew how bleak it was. Below 5'5 seriously consider moving to Asia and/or some Latin American countries where the average height is lower, it's over in the West for yo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:43 AM
2	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. I've had a surprising amount of 18-20 year old women interested in my early 30s and I don't really genuinely consider myself attractive at the moment. But I'm not a casual sex guy, like at all. The 24ish+ women I am interested in with compatible morals/personality/phenotype (and I'm not super strict here I'm okay with chubby and even bigger women) are relatively hard to find or taken. RE your earlier standards comments they exist but they are rare and many men are willing to drop tons of physica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:33 AM
8	Men’s standards are just as problematic as women’s. > A promiscuous man isn’t gong to find a virtuous woman. Yes he can, you see it all the time in Christian dating, man has had an extremely bad promiscuous past, woman is a virgin or near it, she accepts it and moves on. Maybe not the wisest idea because those types of men are more likely to cheat statistically, but they accept it. The other way is more rare. > Older men who prefer younger women are setting themselves up for failure. I've seen a lot of comparative age gaps (actual) relationships …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 12:20 AM
7	Men's standards are never as low as they claim https://youtu.be/0mFKEDXgehg?feature=shared I'm not so sure, some women seem into this or don't give a shit. A lot of women find Tony Soprano hot, even fat older Tony.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 11:09 PM
4	Has a Redpill concept ever protected or broken your heart in dating? So far, this hasn't happened. My fwbs inevitably always push for something more, but every time I've let one through, when they find out about my emotional wounds, the dynamic shifts to a friendly one instead of a romantic and flirty one like before. Fuck that's sad I don't know what to say. Imho I personally wouldn't engage with those types of women but as long as you're genuinely okay with that. This used to bother me but since compartmentalizing my relationships, it doesn't anymore. All my ne…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 11:05 PM
4	It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriends That's not an option. You don't need a girlfriend or sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 10:55 PM
9	It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriends I can't do anything about global manufacturing decisions which basically every phone company does or sources parts from. I can decide not to use people for practice or sex however.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 10:45 PM
2	It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriends I'll take the bait because I'm interested in where this will lead, but no, I don't. Older Android.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 10:18 PM
7	It's a good idea for men to get practice girlfriends I refuse to use people, it's a standard I will die on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 10:09 PM
6	Has a Redpill concept ever protected or broken your heart in dating? Grim and looking into the abysspilled. I get there are things you can improve to do better appearance wise, working on shyness etc, definitely approaching as a man, learning to stand on your own and be independent, but honestly I'd rather say fuck it to the whole thing and become a literal monk then having to change who I am at my core and play some stupid performance or manipulation game especially like dread game lol or whatever resources et al I can provide. I hope you're doing okay emotional…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 09:38 PM
1	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? Thanks for the answers, lots of good insight, one final question though, you seem to be hooking up with a lot of women, aren't you afraid of pregnancy or std risks (especially since a lot can spread even with a condom)? Or are there precautions you take to avoid this? I've known more than a fair few Chads who were at the top of their game and then suddenly they got multiple girls pregnant and it was gg. One of em was a former coworker and was just 19, no kids when I started working, was telling …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 12:26 PM
2	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? I do have more questions for you. Are you like genuinely enjoying this sex you are having with these cheating women? Do you feel guilt about doing it? Is it just the satisfaction of lust? Does it ever get tiring for you? Do you ever feel disgusted by it? If I were you I might just get sick of how shitty people are lol.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 10:43 AM
3	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? Happens when you look into the abyss in anything too much really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 10:31 AM
5	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? Yeah you're not the only one who feels like that, I've known genuine Chads who played the field a lot and are either absolutely miserable and jaded or bordering on schizo tier paranoid, it's not an uncommon experience for very attractive men. They are terrified of long term relationships even if they want to be in them deep down. Kinda horseshoe theory in a way between them and actual true incels(although I suppose if they end up distrusting and disliking women enough to not even engage they are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 07:01 AM
3	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? Yeah but that's not going to happen for us normal or below average guys so we have to play the stupid hunting game until they love us for other reasons. We may luck out and have one or two women genuinely interested in us approach. I'll never be a 200 IQ STEMlord coder fluent in 12 programming languages making 1.5 million a year and cashing out 50 million from my crypto or AI IPO and it is dumb for me to try to go through life acting like I could reach that realistically. If I work really hard i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 06:21 AM
8	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? Nah they still strike out a fair amount too. Not as much as us regular men but it happens. And a lot of them have permanent trust issues from their success for various reasons so the grass is not always greener. This world is just kind of shitty to be honest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 05:37 AM
16	Don't lots of rejections hurt your self esteem? It used to a lot in my 20s. I've just stopped caring once I realized how even top Chad rich men still get shot down 30% of the time according to OKC and other studies because standards vary so wildly and as an average man it's just gonna be a lot worse. I hate dating as a man in [current year] because you can never relax until the exclusivity talk and there are always other men circling around like vultures these days. It used to be you just competed with Billy and Bob the other local guys now e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/24 05:02 AM
23	I don’t see a single comment defending short men when they get body shamed in the comment section. I'll always stand by my short king brothers even though I'm tall and reject any woman who puts it on their dating profile.	/r/MensRights	27/03/24 12:25 PM
8	So uh... how about that fertility crisis huh? Just fucking pay young people enough, have affordable housing (instead of like Canada where they import 1.5 million a year and only build 200k new housing units), and don't make them work insane hours, your fertility crisis will be solved and you won't have to replace your people with random foreigners and destroy your identity, culture, or in the worst case scenario have them actively fight against both and bomb you from time to time (Europe). Sorry your real estate and stock speculation does j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 07:58 AM
30	What does "insecure" even means? I don't buy into the modern belief that people have to be 100% secure in themselves all the time or that's some kind of character flaw. Everyone has insecurities, the problem is when it goes into severe neurosis for no reason. I'm sure the gf and the women would have a different tune if the man was laughing and making "jokes" about how he would like to get with a hot younger pornstar with a huge rack. Anyway for me personally I would not be super happy because that's an issue of mine, insecurity…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 07:51 AM
5	What is happening to men? I am concerned Men try and do the same but are relentlessly shit on when they try with MRAs dismissed, demonized, and mocked, seen it many, many times both online and even IRL with them mocked for not being real men and "manning up" as they say. Some supposedly neutral subs here let you bring in feminist content but if you try to bring up anything MRA you catch a permaban. I won't state them publicly because their mods are a bit crazy and will ban me if I name them and I still want to participate in them but t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 07:59 PM
3	The "quiet" male revolution. This is not my actual position and solution and the like lol I'm Catholic and my thought proposal here goes against those teachings in many ways. It's not -my- version of a utopia in ideal land but it is one I could see happening if you take things to the extreme and wanted total men's liberation and total equality. It's not necessarily a financial burden to women, it simply applies equal stuff to them (albeit the man still gets screwed if he wants the kid and she does not in this situation as t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 02:28 PM
4	The "quiet" male revolution. I'm not even sure if being a provider being the only way to get into a relationship is that much of the reason but the toxic Japanese family dynamics after marriage for a lot of them where all your money goes to your wife and you get a small allowance and (for many Japanese men) basically no sex after children and a ton of controlling behavior. Many Japanese men describe their marriages as them being slaves for a Yakuza boss.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:47 PM
8	The "quiet" male revolution. Huh, you learn something new every day. I guess with something like that and some haptic feedback tech that is being experimented with it could simulate things decently enough. I don't know about the precise timescale but it's food for thought.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:42 PM
2	The "quiet" male revolution. I will admit that is true and something to think about in these debates. Seems like celibacy and this route are the only surefire ways to go for a man to truly be safe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:37 PM
0	The "quiet" male revolution. I guess this is a potential solution but this is sounds like a major pain in the ass and probably expensive to do via IVF vs just a more effective form of male BC though. I suppose if you have the money and the patience then yeah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:30 PM
8	The "quiet" male revolution. I don't see us 100% lifelike human robot waifus walking around in just ten years barring massive advances in processing power, battery life, and other material sciences nor VR advancing to the point it is indistinguishable from real life aka the Matrix unless neuralink tier technology has insane fast breakthroughs. I do think you will see pretty decent looking VR gfs with advanced AI something like a much more advanced version of Artificial Academy/Koikatsu, maybe affordable in 4k+ resolution to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:25 PM
1	The "quiet" male revolution. True but it puts men and women at the same level, both would still have to be aware of STDs but under the above reforms both have equal ability to prevent pregnancy and if it occurs either parent could choose whether or not to be a parent, albeit if it was accidental and the man wanted to be a parent and the woman did not the man would still not have a choice but there's no easy way around that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:19 PM
14	The "quiet" male revolution. I've already seen isolated cases of men just waifumaxxxing over the years with lucid dreaming and other things and this is going to get much worse with the development of AI and potential lifelike human robot bodies. I wonder how things are going to be in 100 years tbh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkcKaNqfykg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DqQvq94MI0	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:07 PM
7	The "quiet" male revolution. OP was asking about possible technological advances that could help liberate and level the playing field for men, not just currently available advances. I'm saying if technology advanced to the point where men had the same level of effective reversible condomless BC as women do things would be much more equal. And equating vasectomies to that is a definite no due to the significant chance will not be successful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:01 PM
5	The "quiet" male revolution. Did you actually read what I said? Vasectomies are not always completely reversible unlike removing an IUD or removing an implant for women. The failure rate can go from 10%-40% and gets riskier the longer it has been and odds for an actual pregnancy can go down even lower. A vasectomy is not a gotcha on this issue at all. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/15459-vasectomy-reversal	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 11:51 AM
4	The "quiet" male revolution. Not always reversible if the man decides he does want to have children and the effectiveness goes down with time. Edited my post to clarify it being completely reversible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 11:40 AM
8	The "quiet" male revolution. Easy to use/no thought 99% effective completely reversible affordable condomless male birth control + the ability for a man to have a "financial abortion" if he does not consent to parenthood but the woman does along with mandatory paternity tests at birth. The ability for men to 100% control whether they are a father and no ability to obfuscate whether or not a child is actually his would be a game changer for men's liberation, especially coupled with more fair family courts regarding child cus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 11:29 AM
9	CMV: Forcing people who don't want children/marriage to do it anyways doesn't always make a better society ? There's nothing anti-Catholic about building more housing and providing younger people better jobs and hours so that they can form families(actually very encouraged since Catholicism is very pro-family) even if it means the ultra rich grow their wealth slightly less faster than they are. Catholic economic doctrine is Distributism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism not this horrific form of robber barron capitalism. Even redistribution of wealth to fair levels isn't off the table to s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 08:13 AM
5	CMV: Forcing people who don't want children/marriage to do it anyways doesn't always make a better society And that is a perfectly fine stance to have depending on the degree, no one has to absorb millions upon millions of immigrants just because. There's a limit before it becomes severely detrimental to everyone. Limited immigration for actually hard to fill positions the country literally cannot support on its own is fine eg Botswana isn't going to make enough medical schools anytime soon so letting doctors in is fine or once all the in country candidates are taken/are actually not suited. You don'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 02:39 AM
0	All your dating problems come down to one thing.... What about having standards? Fear of a substandard partner you know who won't work out you? That doesn't seem bad unless taken to extremes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 02:26 AM
0	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. In addition I know about him and Eva Braun I studied his history. He definitely had sex and some women but I don't think he was out there slaying pussy or anything like that, people would have mentioned it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 02:21 AM
0	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. Like I said in my other comment it won't be labeled as an incel rebellion but it will effectively be one and be supported by them. It will likely be some conservative and/or religious movement to restrict women's sexuality and reinforce monogamy and possibly arranged marriages. There's never going to be a crusade to murder or restrict women openly with that being stated as the cause because I agree people would not go for it. But there are certainly a lot of reactionaries who would be okay with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 02:13 AM
-1	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. Incel Hitler does not necessarily have to be an incel himself, he just has to be supported by enough incels and able to organize them. If the incel problem gets widespread enough and you have a ton of young men who no longer give a shit about anything someone will come along and offer them a solution and they will take it. Hitler was not an incel but he was far from a lady's man and was able to tap into the frustrations of disaffected young men. Like I said in my other comment it won't specifica…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 01:38 AM
1	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. It won't be framed specifically as an incel rebellion it will just be a lot of frustrated sexless and hopeless young men following some guy who may or may not be an incel himself. The early Nazi party and party members were composed of societal rejects and conventionally unsuccessful men. He will just promise them women and power and they will latch onto him because they feel society has failed them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 01:33 AM
18	Males who are frequently the dumpers usually have standards and a high self-esteem. Yeah in general but I don't think you need particularly high standards or self-esteem to drop a woman who is a cheater or batshit insane so not in all cases. I do have standards but I don't think they are all that high and my self-esteem is far from great but there's some blatantly disrespectful or insane bs I just could never put up with even if I'm in a severe depressive period eg her trying to stab me with a knife etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:18 AM
0	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. I think men would figure out a way to incentivize the birth of women if things got too bad otherwise the incel problem becomes an incel rebellion every 20 years if the sex ratio gets even more skewed. Usually the constraint is resources for the countries that go heavily into sex-selective abortion is sons are more heavily relied upon to do things like provide etc al.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:12 AM
3	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. Tbf the article says immature sperm and it is not clear whether the could fertilize an egg and similar things done in mice resulted in major genetic issues. Maybe one day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/03/24 12:05 AM
7	Humans will eventually become a male-only species. Men simp way too much for women in general in order for this to happen. Maybe if some kind of incel Hitler took over the world but even in their power fantasies they still keep women around just in communal harems.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 11:59 PM
28	CMV: Forcing people who don't want children/marriage to do it anyways doesn't always make a better society Or instead of these fascistic/dystopian proposals I see pedalled all the time we just build more fucking housing to drop the costs along with paying young people better with better jobs and hours so they have time and money to date and form families. This would require the green line to not go up as fast and Boomers wouldn't be able to sell homes they bought in 1977 for 30k for 1.5 million but it could maybe save us from societal collapse. Or just fuck those young people especially young men I g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 11:48 PM
87	"Whats going on with emerging white males between the ages of 18-30? They are sleeping all day, gaming all night, hiding from their parents and the world, smoking weed. They don't want to grow up." "I've been thinking...It's good to be in something from the ground floor, I came too late for that, I know, but lately I've been getting the feeling that I came in at the end, that the best is over." -Tony Soprano Where are the vast majority of young men getting in at the ground floor or even in at all these days? Housing is unaffordable, there's no guarantee of a job even if you go into debt and school for it and even then it may not pay well, and dating is brutal for the average man.	/r/MensRights	20/03/24 10:06 AM
3	Do men derive their self-esteem and emotional state from women Just gonna drop by and say based horo avatar and good taste my friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 08:48 AM
11	Do men derive their self-esteem and emotional state from women I would say yes to that these days eg the phrase happy wife, happy life. If your wife is being mean/ignoring you or not having sex with you your life as a man is generally going to suck regardless of how well things are going for you otherwise. Men also (anecdotally?) seem to get completely emotionally destroyed by and fear divorces more than women (fear of divorce is almost pathological among men now for both financial and emotional reasons), although interestingly men remarry at a much higher …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 08:40 AM
7	Do men derive their self-esteem and emotional state from women Like I said in my last post that inspired you to make this thread it's not entirely about women but also money as well likely due to psychoconditioning since we are young, e.g. if you don't make a good amount of money and/or sleep with a lot of women you suck. I will say probably it leans a bit more towards women though because you have a lot of high earning men who are absolutely miserable despite making >90% incomes because they can't get women. Some men are able to truly break free from this …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 08:21 AM
1	Men only have importance to women as providers. Nah I'm not complaining about that since I am actually Christian and can live with that standard, more of a warning for a lot of the secular types who think they will get their low n-count/virgin Christian gf but -also- get sex before marriage. The thing I am actually complaining about in my original comment is that a lot of modern Christian women still expect the man to still provide 100% despite society shifting to two incomes required for a lot of things. Edited my post though to mention secu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 08:14 AM
3	Men only have importance to women as providers. Yeah more and more I realize that men and women are coming at things from completely different lived experiences a lot of the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 07:48 AM
2	Men only have importance to women as providers. Idk if there is a similar thing for women but at least in America and a lot of countries men are like psychologically conditioned from birth to derive self-confidence and worth from either making money, being successful with women, or ideally both. The two top insults for men are "virgin" and "loser/he works a shitty job" because they cut so deeply at our insecurities. If he does not fit either of these things he probably hates himself deep down until he develops a sense of self-worth independen…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 07:33 AM
1	Men only have importance to women as providers. Not grounds for a Catholic divorce if it was known to her before marriage and she accepted he was going to struggle with not doing it but she's still not going to be happy with it if she practices. If you hid your addiction and then she finds your porn folders you're not going to have a fun time however.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 07:26 AM
3	Men only have importance to women as providers. I think a fair amount of religious men would actually be okay with that in their own relationship as long as she had not slept around a lot or only in LTRs before. A lot/most of them are idealists who see it as something special to be shared with someone they love so they get skeeved out hard at a history of casual sex or high partner count since that is anathema to their own sincerely held views and own dating histories. Ofc there are men who were formerly promiscuous and other religious men wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 07:22 AM
11	Men only have importance to women as providers. Don't forget no sex at all during the dating period which can last for years if she is actually 100% practicing and no she is not ever going to be fine with you using porn either secular guys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 07:08 AM
3	Men only have importance to women as providers. You'd be surprised how many religious men are hoping for a more equal relationship these days but are kind of in a shitty catch-22 because a lot of the women who likely share their values around not sleeping around as much/at all before marriage and/or having faith overlap with those who want the traditional male provider while only wanting to work part-time which has become extremely stressful in a time when homes and education and healthcare all seem priced for a two-income family unless the m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 07:06 AM
5	In today's age, do people truly believe that a man's "resources" are really that important? Ah, then you're wondering if your resources might be able to help attract a woman who genuinely loves you who is out of your league and may even be several leagues above you (ofc depending on what you find attractive). The answer in my opinion is yes and no. The fact of the matter is the competition for those women gets more intense the more beautiful you are looking for to the point where there's always a bigger fish than you resource wise unless you are literally Musk or Bezos themselves so mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 06:55 AM
5	Men only have importance to women as providers. Try being a Christian man in 2024 where some women literally and openly tell you to your face that your main/only worth is being a provider and if you do not make [x] amount of money you are a failure as a man, certain Christian dating subreddits have had some wild takes by the women there over the years. You don't even get to enter the ring for a date unless you make a certain amount to fund their dream trad wife lifestyle. Just a reminder for some people who are looking for their trad wives on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 06:33 AM
2	What are your thoughts on the fact that so many people glow up later in life? To be fair a lot of high school people are complete assholes to both men and women though and I think RP men might have a hard time relating because they were completely invisible to women, like, you had guys who actually liked you even if it was for sex. Many RP men had and still have no one who ever liked them even for sex, not even a homely girl, and not for a lack of trying either from what I remember of those types who later turned out redpillish after HS. One was an incredibly smart guy wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 06:22 AM
2	What are your thoughts on the fact that so many people glow up later in life? Sort of unrelated but you would be surprised how many men are actually quite okay with awkward non-conventionally attractive girls who don't even glow up. I would have 100% dated Caroline Ellison and would still date her now if it was not for the fact that I don't think I could get over the polycule "ick" as that is very against my morals and also the fact random cryptobros could break into my house and kill me for being involved with her for the next 50 years along with her whole criminal empir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 06:00 AM
1	Do you think weaponised incompetence around housework exists? If not, why not? If so, where do you think it comes from? Definitely believe that women think so but I think sometimes people are just being lazy on that particular day and/or their standards are not as high as the other person's. I'll sweep the floor in the kitchen for example but I have a hard time reaching the exacting standards of the women in my family who love everything to be 100% spick and span and perfect. I'm not trying to be an asshole about it or anything but I just don't instantly "get" it as they would say. Other days I will admit I am be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 05:46 AM
–	In today's age, do people truly believe that a man's "resources" are really that important? Are you like particularly unsatisfied with the women at your own looks level OP from your comments? You say you attract plenty of fairly educated women who are your looksmatch so what is the problem? Not every man can bat out of his league and you are already extremely well set up as a hospitalist in Texas. Women aren't everything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 05:21 AM
1	Red pillers are delusional beyond helping, and none of their statements make sense Not necessarily some women target such men just for sex or emotional validation as many can attest especially those with certain mental illnesses or personality disorders. We men let our guards down thinking we have met a woman who actually likes us for us and then get destroyed...	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 12:45 AM
2	Red pillers are delusional beyond helping, and none of their statements make sense Datemaxxing/shotgun strategy is indeed a thing it's what leads to a lot of success for a fair deal of men by sheer volume alone, it's just tiring AF, you need to be on multiple apps, multiple websites, Reddit, etc or do it IRL and it is often a ton of time and sometimes money. They don't give af if they strike out 1,000 times if they get one success. Not distancemaxxing screws you depending on the area you are in, small town and don't distancemaxx you are out of options soon, NYC or LA less so. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 12:34 AM
2	Red pillers are delusional beyond helping, and none of their statements make sense Then you have to do what I said and hardcore datemaxxx/distancemaxxx and/or be realistic with your standards to increase the numbers of potential women for you because that increases the chance one will like you for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 12:23 AM
2	Red pillers are delusional beyond helping, and none of their statements make sense For men who aren't the most conventionally attractive you sort of have to be realistic about your physical standards and/or go hard into datemaxxxing for love. Since your success rate is naturally lower you will have to accept it is going to take a higher volume of women to get a match for you which is harder the higher standards you have or if you limit yourself distance wise so you either decrease standards, increase range, or both. Self improvement can help a bit so you don't have to do that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/03/24 12:16 AM
–	Obesity and general slovenliness of the population are large factors in why people are struggling It would probably help a bit but I'm unsure if this is a panacea even in places with comparatively little obesity people are having these same problems. Maybe the standards would just shift upwards where a guy who would be a 7 now ends up a 5 when everyone isn't fat. Basically no one in Japan, China, or Korea is fat but that hasn't helped the abysmal dating prospects for men and in many cases it is even worse. Shit stagnant salaries + a lack of free time and economic mobility seems to be the rea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 11:57 PM
2	Disregarding appearance, modern dating dynamics naturally select for emotionally unavailable men You're overthinking it, I didn't sit here with a master plan to not reply to him and only to you, I saw your comment and was like hmm maybe I should be educational.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 07:51 PM
–	Why are women who violate their man's boundaries not hated the same way men who violate their woman's boundaries are? The OP is too vague on details on what was shared for me to really say, she could have thought it "was a little" but to him it could have brought up trauma and was very disrespectful if he's a certain type of person. I personally probably would not have thrown away a 5 year relationship over this because she actually seemed remorseful about it but what have you. There's actually a whole plot in the Sopranos about something like this with Uncle Junior and his lady friend, she commented positively…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 09:44 AM
–	What's your dating unpopular opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you down voted? Yeah I guess it comes down to "if they can get away with it", was just trying to say historically most did not get away with it even if it was legal it was still pretty rare outside of aristocratic circles due to other societal restrictions enforced by other men. Even in aristocratic circles the bar for a man say in his 40s was around 16-18, rarely lower, e.g. Julia (Caesar's daughter) and Pompey at 17 and 47. That being said if you read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Secret_Life_(memoir)) by …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 05:11 AM
–	What's your dating unpopular opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you down voted? I'm not so sure about that having done research on this for college (in Western Europe at least, a little bit in Eastern Europe), it was pretty rare for people who weren't nobility to marry before 15-16 (and most higher than that) and usually the age gap was not a man in his thirties but a man in his early to late twenties if there was one at all. In MENA an Israelite woman could marry as early as 13 but it was usually more like 15 and a man who was not married by 20 was basically considered the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 04:52 AM
–	What's your dating unpopular opinion? Something you truly believe, but would get you down voted? The Sexual Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the sex having of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering. The continued development of this revolution will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities, it will probably lead to greater…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 04:14 AM
2	Disregarding appearance, modern dating dynamics naturally select for emotionally unavailable men I didn't say that I said Chads usually get approached by women so much it is in a different league and they even get tired of it. Had a literal male model fairly confident acquaintance show me his OKC he made like two weeks back in around 2018 before when we were talking about dating and he had 450+ messages from women initiating alone. They're just in a different league and that's okay, he's a nice guy too and even starred in some minor TV roles due to his looks. Looks like a younger slimmer Ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 03:52 AM
9	The best and most healthy relationships in the real world usually involve women who are crazier for their male partner than the other way around. Nah actually it's fairly easy to get that with BPD women half the time (the caring about you more than vice versa). Amazing enthusiastic spontaneous pornstar tier sex, treating you like a king, willing to do anything for you 50% of the time... the other 50% literally thinking you are evil, frigid as the North Pole, and tons of other shit. -dated a BPD woman before.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 03:36 AM
31	The best and most healthy relationships in the real world usually involve women who are crazier for their male partner than the other way around. I'm uncomfortable speaking about that since I am not a woman and can't pretend to know the reverse but you definitely feel it as a man if you are not the #1 in her life. Treats you quite differently very quickly any man with relationship experience will know what I am talking about and the worst thing is once you lose that spot it is basically impossible to bring it back. Even if you are #1 a lot of the time you have to constantly work to keep that up and can't relax or show weakness. Fuck me I …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 02:51 AM
3	Question: If a woman asks for a divorce over emotional needs, is it okay to divorce over physical needs? It's even worse when the reverse happens and they say just dump the man giving him no clear warning to lose weight too and everyone agrees, the double standard is wild.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/24 12:00 AM
9	Disregarding appearance, modern dating dynamics naturally select for emotionally unavailable men They aren't necessarily because a true Chad doesn't have to ask out 100 women to get one success because his success rate is much higher than normal and he actually even gets approached by women themselves to the point where some of them actually get tired of it. Womanizers who actually have to approach literally 100 women for one success may have more success than the average man sexually but they are often dumpster diving for sex with what they affectionately call "slampigs". https://www.amazo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 11:52 PM
10	To the men who complain about loneliness Here queen you dropped this https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTK57Y9TUkCChwmTEC1ZArLi2U43jwuKN08Y6WZ5Y5tXw&s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 08:19 AM
12	To the men who complain about loneliness I honestly think if you date too much these days as a man without a break from all the BS you've described you will actually become permanently jaded, it's almost like radioactive you have a healthy limit you can do in a period per time where you can still be okay but the more you go over it the higher chance you will get "love cancer" or something like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 08:14 AM
20	To the men who complain about loneliness Incredibly based and truthpilled my king, also, praise be to the Omnissiah.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/03/24 08:08 AM
8	In the Redpill, the general idea is that women want the "alpha" guy or the best of the best, both financially and biologically. It's also pretty known that men are not born equal. Same applies to men, some of the women Tiger Woods slept with were leagues below his wife. I'm not sure cheating is always correlated with physical attractiveness or even mostly with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 11:15 PM
12	Do you care if there's an age gap in dating? It's not the age for me but the nature of the relationship. If an older man is genuinely with a marriage mindset is pursuing a younger woman because he actually does enjoy her as a person and treats her with respect there is not as much of an issue, it does happen from time to time from what I have seen, fairly rare but it does happen. But like a lot of women will mention here a lot of the time it is not really equal and can be abusive and he may use her as a sex toy. More rarely but becoming mo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 11:09 PM
1	Most women are too concerned about themselves and what they can get from men to be able to love. Oh I wasn't saying it was necessarily better in ye olden times, a lot of the "trad" roles men were forced into made them miserable, stressed out alcoholics since they had to provide at all costs by themselves. There probably were an equal if not larger amount of unempathetic women in the past. Just saying men need to screen harder for empathy and a lot do not and then wonder why they get screwed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 01:08 PM
16	There are many benefits to having kids early and people who wait as long as possible are shooting themselves in the foot. This is where income inequality is fucking everyone over. You can't have so much hoovered to the extreme top and old without screwing over the young and everyone not in the top, there is only so much pie. And laws roadblocking things that would help eg if we relaxed zoning more houses could be built for cheap lowering prices but that makes old people who bought their house in 1975 for 30k mad because they might not be able to sell it for a million now. The Japanese gave it right there at least, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 10:53 AM
-1	Most women are too concerned about themselves and what they can get from men to be able to love. I don't know about "most", but there does seem to be a distressingly large amount who have little genuine empathy towards men in general and many times even their actual partners coming from the male perspective. Men need to be aware and screen for this more than we do in dating since I would argue a lack of empathy is probably the worst thing one could have in a gf. I would rather take an overweight literal former whore who has banged 500 men who was genuinely empathetic and made real attempts …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 08:15 AM
1	a female perspective on "the life story of carol" It was a combination of things really so I'm not sure, lel I'm Catholic so polite in an ideal world people would find a religion conducive to long term mating success which traditionally suggested waiting until marriage for both sexes and discouraged promiscuity instead of glorifying it. Not necessarily the whole radical purity culture thing but where sleeping around a lot is discouraged and some of the Chads actually get drawn towards religion funnily enough I have seen a lot of good looking pr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/24 02:46 AM
1	a female perspective on "the life story of carol" In ye olden times there were social mechanisms to actually handle such behavior that worked at least some of the time, eg religion, designated prostitute women who everyone agreed were fair game more or less, more community and familial mate guarding for the "normal" women, even laws against it. There were still some guys who had enough resources or guile to get around it but it was more difficult. In a way this was keeping a decent "stock" of marriageable women around for men who weren't Chad h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/03/24 09:43 PM
0	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? It's real albeit the pregnancy numbers may be lower trying to extort him for money. Evidently you don't need amazing looks to rack up a big bodycount as a man just have zero morals, be (relatively) exotic + rich for the area and bam.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 12:49 PM
7	The best way for men to weed out superficial women who are using them is to get separate orders on dates. I mean I probably would not go to an expensive restaurant as a first date but depending on my mood during the week I could see going to like a decent Italian place if I wanted pasta or something, because even if the first date goes to shit, at least I can enjoy my pasta even if I have to take it home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 06:06 AM
9	Does the "friend zone" mainly consist of males? If so, why? I concur with the observation that men, especially inexperienced men or men without an abundance of choice, fall into this more probably due to a lack of options and men not really being able to open up to other men and instead confiding in their close female friends which can lead to feelings of attachment and intimacy over time in much the same way I think women repeatedly having sex with one FWB and no one else over time. It does happen with women but women usually have more options so if the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 05:56 AM
3	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this To be fair a lot of Russian, Chinese, and even Iranian young men have totally been shafted and have given up as well which is 100% going to fuck them over since they are now refusing to reproduce since no one cares about them flourishing or not either. The ones who are going to win demographically are the Africans, Latinos, Indians, SEA, Arabs, and the more religious ones, none of which are known for being very progressive on women's rights. This won't impact the poster immediately so he won't c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:57 AM
5	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this I never said anything about, only that you were stupid to think if you lock 90% of men out of sex forever that such a system would be sustainable since it would be overthrown by the sexless men, good luck with your women dominated reverse harem paradise that has totally existed in history though let's see how it works out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:47 AM
4	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? It's probably a lot lower and we'll never really know but he was dating a lot of primarily young, healthy women since African demographics skew that way and they can be pretty fertile. He managed to dodge HIV which is pretty impressive albeit he was screwing around in areas with lower 5%-10% rates of it rather than around the horn of Africa where it is crazy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:40 AM
0	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this I'm not the one who made the stupid claim, you were, go touch grass and get an education preferably in history while you are at it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:33 AM
5	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this > Believe it or not, people don't owe you sex, so if 90 percent of the male population can't get laid. Oh well. Liberal democracy would cease to exist because guess what happens when you have large amounts of angry disenfranchised sexless men told they will never get laid ever and to just deal with it chuds, people have overthrown democracies through military force for far less and this proves just how delusional your statement is and gl fighting 9:1 odds against men who have nothing to lose any…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:27 AM
1	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? I mean it is possible for fat uggos to abuse women like Boogie 4988 and his """girlfriend""" but she's uh...not very well mentally... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCafmKHun_8	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:15 AM
8	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this > Regardless, even if you were right, there's nothing inherently wrong with women only choosing 10 percent of men. The fact that someone can actually say and believe this is proof we live in a society where no one actually gives a shit about men where you would just casually condemn 90% of men to sexlessness forever and see nothing wrong with this for a stable society. Okay then me and the 90% of boys will just decide to opt out of taxation, military defense, work, and everything else since we a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 04:03 AM
9	If men want more casual sex from women why do you support/vote for policies that will discourage this https://www.datingfrustrating.com/is-he-just-interested-in-sex-or-something-more One and not the best will have to try to find more when I get home and am not on my phone	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 03:52 AM
13	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? I think with all things being equal is what he meant. An ugly rich man can bang a lot more women than a poor gigachad man simply because of his resources, no average man can compete with Chinese/Monoglian/Arab emperors and their thousand+ consorts for example, except maybe that one average French sex tourist who blew all his 550k savings going from African village to African village solely to have sex, he ended up with a body count of over 1200.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 02:34 AM
11	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? So all the women rulers throughout history who have started bloody wars and sent men to die for them eg Catherine/Cleopatra were just innocent and totally with no coercion at all convinced men to go die for their ambitions? That women have never ever widely supported any war in history and have pushed for the complete abolishment of male conscription around the world? That's great to know I can go rip up my selective service card now without any penalties whatsoever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 02:15 AM
9	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? It is mostly men who fight and die in wars and for 98% of the world is the only gender actually forced to take up combat roles against their will. Blaming solely men for wars is entirely discounting women's agency in encouraging and backing them throughout history especially since the right to vote became a thing. I don't see a widespread movement among women to suddenly support conscription of women in the name of equality but they will damn well support wars where men go to die eg the War on T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 02:10 AM
19	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Suicide rates, violent deaths especially in wars that men are forced to fight with no choice in the matter via conscription, higher sentences for the same crimes, increasingly an educational system not designed for male learning or even participation, being seen as completely disposable, expression of emotions not really being encouraged or even allowed, almost automatically assumed guilty in any domestic/SA allegation or in some countries like Spain with recent laws automatically found guilty u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 01:36 AM
6	Which gender do you think treats the other gender worse, on average, in modern western society, and why? Just take the look like Leonidas from 300 pill and you will have no problem getting women, tehee lazy men it's so easy. God what a toxic sub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/03/24 12:54 AM
4	Is it true that most people cannot lower their standards biologically? This is part of it, maybe not the whole story but deffo a factor.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/03/24 11:55 PM