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We all know the stat: 1 in 5 women will experience sexual assault in their lifetime. That’s true, it’s happened to me. It’s happened to many women I love. That 1 in 5 stat was proved false by the US department of Justice's own stats. It was a survey that was very flawed and biased. It was for college campuses and, ironically, they are the safest spaces for women. Due to that false stat, we had loads of title IX violations on campus. In brief, it allowed women to accuse men of sexual assault or r…
/r/MensRights23/06/25 10:35 PM
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Loneliness makes free?
/r/MensRights21/06/25 10:52 AM
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The only thing that will happen is men who have trouble getting women will just have another option to dull the pain. Looks at the increasing loneliness epidemic among young men There's going to be a lot of pain dulling in the future...
/r/MensRights21/06/25 03:54 AM
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A lot of the posters here are jaded. When they speak about unconditional love, they are confusing it with loyalty. No one really loves anyone unconditionally except maybe your parents. I know about moms whose sons went to prison but they swear he is a good boy. What they are talking about is 'does she have my back when the chips are down?'. They are also adding in the fact that they want their personalities and values to matter to the women they are with. But, unfortunately, women don't care as …
/r/MensRights10/06/25 09:44 PM
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You are taking what I said to an extreme. It is no secret women would rather their men have productive hobbies than video games. If the hobby gains status or wealth, women definitely prefer that because they prefer men who have more wealth and status than they do. You used the term gold digger first. You made assumptions about men not doing enough around the house (not being productive) while having their hobbies, which allegedly is what frustrates women. But if you need evidence of gold digging…
/r/MensRights24/05/25 12:32 AM
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I'm not saying it's antisemitic, I'm saying the rhetoric is similar "I am not saying it is racist, I am saying it is similar." You are trying to sneak in criticism as if I were anti-Semitic without actually saying I am because I didn't say anything anti-Semitic. So you want that label attached to what I said to discredit my point. You are being intellectually dishonest. I'm not married, but from actually talking to women, researching online and observing it in mine and my friends' very own house…
/r/MensRights23/05/25 05:03 PM
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It's very much giving anti-semitic rhetoric What? How does this become anti-Semitic? Please explain this. Has it occurred to you that if we see our partner playing video games or watching tv for HOURS while we don't have the time to engage in similar hobbies because we're so bogged down by housework and childcare (which we are still expected to do after 8 hours work). Why did you marry and have children with a lazy asshole? Y'all pick the worst men to marry and then shit on the guy's hobbies. wh…
/r/MensRights23/05/25 08:57 AM
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But the judge said it is not particularly easy to send a young woman to jail. That's where you see the bias. I don't think they want the stranglers to get away with it either. But men will go to jail for longer for the same crimes women commit. Strangling someone in a fit of rage is fucked up. Setting them alight for a comment is like premeditated evil. Both parties need to be kept well away from the public for a long time.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/05/25 07:41 AM
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in my experience it was mostly the attention i was giving to my hobbies Especially if the hobby is 'non-productive'. If it makes something that gains you status or money, keep going. Your labour pays off for her. If it's something where you sit and stare at something for a while, it makes them anxious. Like watching sport or playing a board game. They cannot conceive of a mind finding peace that way.
/r/MensRights20/05/25 10:06 PM
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That or there's a sudden surge in pregnancies.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/04/25 09:52 AM
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Could it explain all the pissed off banshees on social media?
/r/MensRights21/02/25 09:43 AM
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This is the point. Every time they get within spitting distance of the truth, but they cannot let go of the misandry. They cannot see it from men's perspective, so they automatically assume men are being malicious, dumb or being conned. No man wants to give up sex and relationships. But where women have become delusional, men have become disillusioned.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/02/25 10:49 AM
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The funny thing is trans men dont seem to be as anti male, maybe they see the prejudices men face and the lack of supports and empathy for someone who appears male. And gay men don't hate on women nearly as much as lesbians do on men.
/r/MensRights30/01/25 09:14 AM
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That's because everyone who quotes that line skips over the context. They don't quote the part where we need to maintain men as a minority. Imagine saying we need to keep black people at 10% of the overall population and the future, if any, is white. Would sound really shitty, right?
/r/MensRights09/11/24 12:05 AM
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Erm...Sally Miller Gearhart was the founder of gender studies in the US in the 70s. She was also the one who said that men should be kept at 10% of the general population. She was the one who said that if the future, if there is one, is female. The founder of gender studies was a feminist and a misandrist. What exactly would a woman like that teach young men and women about their interactions with each other? What impact would that have with future generations? You can see the divisive mess we a…
/r/MensRights08/11/24 05:35 AM
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But does anyone even watch the view aside from unemployed women? Their target audience? Would this argument work if there was a TV show about men asking if we even need women? Would it be okay to state this because the audience happened to be unemployed men? Constantly focusing on tweets and reddit posts made by hateful twats isn't. The issue is how misandry is often accepted in many different spaces. If men had shown equivalent hatred towards women it would be called out for sexism and the acco…
/r/MensRights04/11/24 11:53 PM
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The extreme ones have a voice that shapes public opinion about men. It's not easy to ignore when TV shows, academic institutions, social media and government hover between anti male bias to straight up misandry. Recently, a popular TV show The View, held a discussion on whether we even need men, even stating that men are useless. I doubt anyone would ignore statements of women being useless or anyone on social media feeling regret that a celebrity had a girl instead of a boy.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 10:00 PM
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"I want a man who is my EQUAL" "Paying 50/50 makes me feel embarrassed" So you want an equal partner but not when the cheque comes. This woman is delusional. She wants equality in theory but she wants a man superior to her in practice. No wonder she, and her friends, are all single in their 50s.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen23/09/24 10:10 PM
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Yes. And because women have so much control and power in the sexual marketplace, more of them can experience that novelty than men will. And men just have to accept the risk if they desire a partner. It won't be long before we read AITA posts saying shit like "AITA for insisting my wife stay with me for our anniversary rather than spend the night with her boyfriend?"
/r/MensRights21/09/24 10:25 AM
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I loved this part: "Now sex researchers are entertaining the possibility that women simply need variety and novelty of sexual experience more than men do,” Martin says. "Simply need" they say. Like it's not possible for women to speak to their partners to engage in novel sexual experiences. Nope, they must seek it outside of their relationships. And it is once again men's fault for not giving this to them.
/r/MensRights21/09/24 06:10 AM
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Ever wonder why fairy tales have evil step mothers and not evil step fathers?
/r/MensRights29/08/24 03:07 PM
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Don't forget the hints of alcoholism and having a thing for emotionally unstable men.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/05/24 07:29 AM
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often more hours than now We are far more productive (read: we work way more) and the work culture is way more toxic now compared to then. That Boomer generation is also an anomaly where we could have one person working and another at home. Today we need both people working to get by. Take note that a lot of people died off first for all that prosperity to happen.
/r/MensRights23/04/24 10:03 PM
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If the money was enough to raise a child in a healthy environment without significant or harmful lifestyle adjustments, then maybe? I am not saying everyone should be getting a million dollars, a free car and a 5 bedroom home to make babies. But from the moment you start school to your retirement, your existence is servitude for ever dwindling compensation. People cannot afford to buy homes because the cost of living is so high. Their student debt follows them well into their 30s. Houses get bou…
/r/MensRights23/04/24 10:01 PM
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whenever i try to talk to a woman thats in their early 20s people stare like I'm a creep even if the woman is feeling me. What are they going to do? Report you for dating an adult? Why are you allowing what others think to affect your life like this? You owe them nothing. Even if she was 18 and the two of you were happy, there isn't much you can do but enjoy your time together. Seriously, y'all gotta stop letting bitter older women police your thoughts. Go and have fun with the 21 year old.
/r/MensRights12/04/24 09:11 AM
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Body shaming is not an issue when women are the ones doing it..... I would extend it to body shaming is not an issue when a man is the target
/r/MensRights15/02/24 03:00 AM
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Feminists. Happy cake day!
/r/MensRights01/12/23 11:38 AM
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Whether they are aware of it or not, they don't want to make that difficult mental step to acknowledge that men need the kind of help that would require women to make a compromise. They don't want to help so much as recruit more members to their cause.
/r/MensRights01/12/23 08:35 AM
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but woman with depression needs to see a therapist and needs help immediately. Their favourite is post partum depression. That woman can abuse her partner, her child, be lazy and negligent, but it isn't her fault! They diagnose her like the medical experts we all know they are and absolve her from all responsibility. By contrast, a man who is having a tough time adjusting to parenthood should just man up, have greater empathy for his partner, offer HER more support and stop complaining. I know t…
/r/MensRights10/11/23 09:20 PM
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They don't have to. They can go to sperm banks. They can be as racist and elitist as they want and select the sperm of tall, white doctors to have children. Nevermind the fact it is a form of Eugenics, but the only way the government would have to force men and women to mate is if men stopped donating sperm.
/r/MensRights28/10/23 11:09 PM
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It won't happen. They will blame men even as the population and birth rates decline to new lows. They will be hanging around the Pearly Gates wondering why men didn't approach them more on Earth.
/r/MensRights28/10/23 05:54 AM
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This is the thing. The men want sex for two reasons. One, because it feels great. And two, because you know she is into you. Your efforts to court her are not wasted. If women were consistent in their approach men wouldn't have anything to complain about. I.e. they only fucked on the third date and weren't getting dicked down by someone else in the meantime. Or they all held out until you two were official. Men could not even begin to complain about women keeping some men for sex and some for pr…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/10/23 10:08 PM
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marriage is a financial contract intended to guarantee a man will provide financial support for his wife once she has her value reduced by giving up virginity, and the children that result. that's it, that's why it was created. Romanticising marriage is a more recent innovation. It was meant to solve multiple social problems. For example, what do you do when a cad wanders into the village, gets a bunch of teenage girls pregnant then wanders off? They didn't have access to the resources (food, wa…
/r/MensRights16/10/23 11:38 PM
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It's really funny reading articles from feminists whining about "where did the real men go" or "Swedish men are so boring they should be more like South American men" etc. There were some men who had the opinion that feminism is a giant shit test to see how much men are actually willing to put up with. Some women really enjoy that raw, primal masculinity some men have and it gets them off. So when men are laid back, relaxed and nice it gets them anxious and worried. What do they do? They bully a…
/r/MensRights14/10/23 07:06 PM
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It's too late. Men had been complaining about this for years and women didn't give a shit. It's a problem now when it happens to them. They aren't concerned about it backfiring when they divorce rape men. They don't think about it backfiring when they accuse men of all sorts of perversion (then wonder why no man will approach them). They aren't giving a shit about it backfiring when they are ready to end careers through false allegations. So when they get divorce raped, when they are lonely beca…
/r/MensRights14/10/23 06:54 PM
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When women follow their nature they score an upgrade. When men follow their nature they must pay child support to multiple women. Those women should pay their men alimony for abandoning them after risking life and limb to keep them safe.
/r/AntiFeminists11/09/23 12:37 AM
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That's on an individual level. Women expect men to adhere to their traditional gender roles almost universally while men have largely let go of gender role expectations of women. So what traditional gender roles can men expect of women in general without being considered sexist?
/r/MensRights31/08/23 12:44 PM
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What traditional roles can men expect from women without being called sexist?
/r/MensRights30/08/23 12:32 PM
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if we as society call women sluts and shame them for their body count do you really think we are not to blame for supporting passive behavior? Slut shaming isn't why women don't approach. They don't need to because men approach them more often. Men also have more testosterone, giving them a more active sex drive and desiring sex more. This means they also take more risks and are more likely to try to approach. Social convention also gives women an advantage. Traditional gender roles for women ar…
/r/MensRights30/08/23 09:46 AM
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Please leave the room so I can finish peacefully with my 1000w vibrator and wonder why you can't please me anymore. I bet this is like the equivalent of death grip. She uses a toy so much she loses sensitivity and her partner wonders why his marathon sessions of back breaking thrusting aren't working.
/r/MensRights28/08/23 01:49 PM
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Your value as a man is tied very much to how useful or appealing you are to women. If you are a virgin it implies you aren't good enough so your value drops. If you are able to find a partner, preselection implies you have value so women show more interest and society gives you a nod of approval. The only men able to escape this are very successful or gay men and even then there is an underlying usefulness for women in being a potential partner or ally in the fight against the patriarchy. Your a…
/r/MensRights27/08/23 12:05 AM
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There is a book you should check out called Men on Strike. It explains that men are bit by bit, checking out of society. They aren't going to college as much. They aren't working as hard because they aren't marrying and/or having as many kids. They aren't moving out from their parents' homes because they are choosing simpler lives. The book says the American dream for the average man in the US is dead. Men used to work hard for women's love and for their families. But now the cost is just too hi…
/r/MensRights23/08/23 02:09 PM
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OnlyFans debunked their assumption that men keep the porn industry alive. OnlyFans and Tumblr weren't even meant to be porn sites either. They were turned into one. Can you expand on this a bit? Especially about OF debunking that men keep the porn industry alive?
/r/MensRights13/08/23 01:29 PM
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Or a parent. Everyone who is progressive will tell you it's no one's business what she does for money or who she fucked. That society should not punish a former porn star for her past. But ask them if they want to be the child of a former pornstar whose friends discover this while they are in high school. Imagine being the daughter discovering her mom's double anal penetration gangbang video or trying to find out why her friends are always hanging around her place.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/08/23 01:03 PM
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You have to understand it isn't just that they see these men as weak or inferior to them. They are afraid of the truth. They are doubling down on their poor choices because it would make them look like idiots to admit the nicer guys would have done a better job. But nice guys are too respectful. They don't take what they want (they seek consent). They work hard and seek stability. These things are not attractive to a young woman who is looking for excitement. So she has to justify her desire for…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/08/23 03:11 PM
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They fear men hijacking the narrative. They want to maintain the status quo that women are oppressed by men, black people by white people and that's why they (women) deserve more privileges. Not saying white people don't owe black people something for the past. But even when someone has had a good relationship with different races, they (feminists pushing the victimhood narrative) will still look for some way that the white person in the group is more privileged and oppressing others simply for …
/r/MensRights02/08/23 04:49 AM
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I bet they would feel Stoked about him becoming a professional cricketer XD ... I'll see myself out
/r/MensRights27/07/23 05:44 AM
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To add to the parental rights and responsibilities, consider that a woman can rape a man or a minor, get pregnant, give birth and then force the tape victim to pay child support. The least the state can do is offer a man a choice. Do you want to be a father to this child or have parental responsibility? No? Cool, you never have access to the kid. When women have sex they consent only to the sex. But men also consent to parenting. If we are pro choice for women we should be for men as well. It is…
/r/MensRights26/07/23 09:20 AM
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there are literally more than 50% of men who go about their entire lives not even receiving empathy from women, let alone attention. But the second women are not getting the same attention they used to, solely because most women and feminists fucked it up, they are expecting men to step up and fix problems they created. This is the part that gets me. Women asking for men to give them attention and to ask them out is rich. Men complained for years about feeling lonely, being starved of affection,…
/r/MensRights26/07/23 06:17 AM
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are just going to end up really fucking lonely because of it. When men said this before women laughed at them as if it wasn't possible for women to lose out in an arena they dominate while young. But the numbers don't lie. There is a record number of single people in the US in relative and absolute terms. The birth rate is declining. There is growing sexlessness among the youth. Marriage is at an all time low. These are not signs of a society building communities. But good luck telling people th…
/r/MensRights26/07/23 05:42 AM
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Even utilitarians have some moral justification. This isn't utilitarianism. These women expect the majority of society to make compromises for them. If they were true utilitarians they would be fucking these incels for the greater good!
/r/MensRights22/07/23 05:23 AM
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It's because men who desire sex but are unattractive are seen as less than human by women. As if it is an insult to them to want to have sex with them while not being worthy. Coupled with the current cultural trend of never offending a woman, and you get people who think it is okay to harm incels. Any woman who thinks that is okay should be the one on the front lines facing any militarised angry incels (I do not condone them turning violent, but if women believe they should be exterminated then …
/r/MensRights22/07/23 05:20 AM
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It's because men who desire sex but are unattractive are seen as less than human by women. As if it is an insult to them to want to have sex with them while not being worthy. Coupled with the current cultural trend of never offending a woman, and you get people who think it is okay to harm incels. Any woman who thinks that is okay should be the one on the front lines facing any militarised angry incels (I do not condone them turning violent, but if women believe they should be exterminated then …
/r/MensRights22/07/23 05:20 AM
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Not arguing against a healthy lifestyle at all, but you can hardly blame the men for expressing at least some part of their sexuality in private. A lot of the guys checking out have also written women off altogether so they use porn as a replacement. It's an unhappy compromise because I guarantee you they would much rather have partners who loved and respected them. Porn is the symptom, not the cause. A lot of women would have us believe that porn is the reason men are no longer bothering with w…
/r/MensRights19/07/23 02:48 AM
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Instead, you're malding about women's liberation as if that's the source of your problems, despite correctly identifying traditional gender roles as restrictive. No, I am saying that it is hypocritical of women to expect men to have freed them from traditional gender roles while still holding men to theirs. I am saying that the freedom women enjoy didn't come without the participation of men. Actually wanting a submissive wife or a wealthy husband are both unhealthy expectations. But your logic …
/r/MensRights19/07/23 12:14 AM
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I don't think anyone has an issue with women doing well if it didn't come at the cost of men to an extent. Men freed women from the traditional gender roles. Women can be whatever they want and men don't get a say in it. It also doesn't affect men's attraction to women in general. Women still hold men to traditional gender roles. Men still need to adhere to standards that women set, which is pretty much 1960s style masculinity. Be taller. Earn more. Have masculine hobbies that are productive. Be…
/r/MensRights18/07/23 06:45 AM
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I said I sympathised with someone who was born with a physical disadvantage that made it difficult for them to attract a partner. I said that young men don't always grow up in the best environments. Mom and dad are working, they aren't doing so well financially, they eat poorly because they don't have time to cook healthy meals and they don't spend much time outside. As a result they get into unhealthy routines at home. They go to school, maybe get bullied or their friendship group becomes a bun…
/r/MensRights07/07/23 06:33 AM
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Put yourself first. You deserve it.
/r/MensRights07/07/23 02:37 AM
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Man this just sounds abusive and draining AF. Not from your side, but from hers. Like, why date or commit to someone who you have 0 respect for? And why stay in a relationship where your partner makes disparaging comments? I know some men believe that women cannot be nice to their men and shit test them constantly, so they have to show some degree of competence and fitness. They do this by creating dread or indirectly putting their women "in their place". And I have met enough women who admit to…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 08:55 PM
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She admits her weight is the problem then proceeds to ask "is THIS all that's left?". Yes. For you. And she touches on how hard and shitty it is for men for a moment before making it about her feels and how hard she has it being 300 pounds and unlovable. Anyone who has lost weight, man or woman, and noticed the change in how people behave can attest that yes, humans are pretty shallow and looks are important. If you are 300 pounds and complaining about being lonely, it means you want food more t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/06/23 04:46 AM
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When you say "the bummiest guys" that's from a guy's perspective. We could never understand why women go nuts for thugs, convicted felons and drug dealers. But women throw themselves at assholes with no future all the time. But maybe it is the same as when women judge men for porn or really slutty women. The women on porn are often gross but men are so horny they jerk it to a slut with implants. That same woman walks into your eyeline and you are going to be checking out her tits and curves even…
/r/MensRights22/06/23 04:15 AM
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I don't really care if an 18 year old dates a 45 year old. They are both old enough to know it's maybe not a good idea so as adults they must take responsibility. There are 45 year olds who shouldn't be dating other 45 year olds because age hasn't made them better human beings or partners. People date and break up due to incompatibility all the time. Let that 18 year old learn the hard way.
/r/MensRights22/06/23 04:05 AM
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They are raised to believe sex is something they offer men in return for more than sex. They are hypocrites when they say women are not vending machines where you put in nice coins and get out sex. But men aren't machines where you put in sex and get out commitment. Women also don't see a difference between a man's commitment and his willingness to spend money on them. I remember reading somewhere that young girls indirectly decide to become prostitutes from about the age of 12 because they real…
/r/MensRights22/06/23 04:01 AM
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were built by men bec. of patriarchy and that they didn't allow women to do anything This is actually not true. Women have always worked. Many owned property and businesses. But these were the elites of the world. Whenever you hear the word patriarchy, substitute it with the rich or those who had the means to invest, build and change the world. You really think no queens existed or female nobility that could get shit done? Whenever a noble with land would travel his wife would need to keep thing…
/r/MensRights01/06/23 10:20 PM
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It's a product of lower classes having poorer education and placing no value on the education they do receive. They aren't interested in a short term struggle for long term gain (mostly because they need financial problems sorted out today rather than in 10 years). This leads to the speech patterns you hear that are like shortcuts or a collection of slang phrases. It becomes a cultural phenomenon because it really does change the language and become something else entirely. If they actually had …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/05/23 10:49 PM
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Behind that feminism was capitalism. The Rockefeller Foundation bankrolled feminism in the 70s when women were demanding to enter the workforce and be paid the same as men. Women got the right to work the same jobs for the same pay, essentially doubling the workforce over night. Wages stagnated while the media promoted work as freedom (Arbeit Macht Frei) and blamed men for holding women back. Meanwhile, women's happiness has declined to a point lower than it was at the alleged height of sexism i…
/r/MensRights21/05/23 07:18 AM
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I am no fan of Piers Morgan because he never lets anyone with a different view actually speak. He keeps interrupting them before they can finish his point. And it's imperative that when you are intellectually jousting with someone who has different views that you let them share their views so you know what to focus on. That being said he has a point. If we can objectify men and no one has an issue with it, why can we not objectify women? The solution is to objectify no one or discuss what level …
/r/MensRights21/05/23 01:35 AM
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I wonder where we can download one that shows the wife doing enough yard work or technical home maintenance, like repairs or plumbing.
/r/MensRights18/05/23 10:02 PM
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I am "easy to please".
/r/MensRights06/05/23 03:50 AM
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You don't even have to go that far to notice the imbalance. When a male gamer goes online he gets insulted by opposing teams whether he does well or not. He has to cop abuse while competing. A woman gamer goes online and cops abuse and it's headline news because it is sexist. I saw a streamer on Reddit posting about how she got kicked off games for being a woman, and while this is undeniably sexist, we ignore how often we make space for women but not men. If women kicked a guy off an online game…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:51 AM
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You may get into a TERF war XD
/r/MensRights18/04/23 06:25 AM
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I think the other poster is saying that's no different to when American men go abroad. The women see an opportunity to leave their country and to go to the US. A passport bro might find a wife in the Philippines or in China but she might see a meal ticket. However, there is greater demand for women outside of the US (Eastern European, Asian) than there is for American women in general. American women also tend not to find Asian men as attractive and they have disdain for American men who reject …
/r/MensRights10/04/23 09:55 PM
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Even at home, many men have their spaces taken from them. Their hobbies gather dust in the attic or the garage. If they are lucky they get a "man cave", which is in a dark corner of the house, out of the way so as not to offend anyone. Nevermind that he pays rent or the mortgage. Nevermind that this is as much his home as everyone else's. There just seems to be a general disdain among women for anything that men enjoy. They see any male pursuits - that are not productive in a way a woman that al…
/r/MensRights09/04/23 03:58 PM
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Yeah but look at what he needed to prove he wasn't the abusive asshole. He needed to be famous, have money and have multiple forms of evidence and people still automatically assumed he was the problem. And it was proven Amber lied. The average Joe doesn't have money and an entire legal team around to save him. Especially when all a woman has to do is lie and everyone believes her by default.
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:15 AM
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The median percentage of men who severely assaulted a partner was 5.1%, compared to a median of 7.1% for severe assaults by the women in these studies. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women half again more women than men severely attacked a partner. We could shout this from the rooftops and feminists would deny it. They rely on manipulating public opinion by creating the "domestic violence is gendered" image, where you see posters of a man standing over a woman cower…
/r/MensRights05/04/23 09:13 AM
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Because they want to imply that men are more violent because they do more damage. As if someone being attacked is going to hold back if they fear for their life. As if they are all specially trained to know exactly how much force to use to stop someone without hurting them. As if they aren't human and scared.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/04/23 03:18 AM
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So if men defend themselves they can hurt the women attacking them far more?
/r/PussyPassDenied03/04/23 02:12 PM
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To the privileged, equality looks like oppression.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 09:12 AM
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An exception doesn't invalidate a trend
/r/MensRights30/03/23 03:34 AM
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So if hubby came out as bisexual and was getting railed by his boyfriend each week it would not be cheating?
/r/MensRights28/03/23 10:33 PM
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Can they not discuss an issue related to gender in instances like these? I am not saying the kids dying isn't a core problem here. But they are talking about the oft repeated talking point that only men do this. And no one says "Kids died. Stop with the victim mentality!" when they say men are the problem.
/r/MensRights28/03/23 03:46 AM
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You are probably going to see the spirit of the argument getting lost in the political climate. The spirit of the argument is that treating men like disposable arm candy, being unprincipled and untidy, and seeking instant gratification are not healthy habits to form. The political climate says women should not be nice to men or they must be getting something from men in return for niceness. They would scoff at men expecting more for being nice to women, which is another problem with the politica…
/r/MensRights23/03/23 11:44 PM
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There are crazies on either side. I don't think anyone wants to advocate for that sort of hatred. But what exactly can anyone do if some people want to isolate themselves and hate others? I will point out the difference here is that when women get together to hate men, they get political support, policy changes and privilege. When men get together to hate women they must do so in isolated groups, shunned by society and anyone with even an iota of compassion.
/r/MensRights23/03/23 11:04 PM
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I don't think the men even want to be that way. They want to trust women. They want women to like them. But their relationship with women has not been easy and trusting women is hard. It's also really difficult to not sound misogynist when a guy is bitter about legitimate issues and I am sure they want to believe women when they say they care. But they are scared of being lied to and to be taken advantage of by women and a misandrist society so they have their guard up. Women do this around men …
/r/MensRights23/03/23 09:35 PM
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A sprinkling of sex
/r/PussyPassDenied20/03/23 11:28 PM
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Rape requires penetration with said penis.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/03/23 11:27 PM
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Not to be mean but you have all this advice about the things a man must do but you didn't yourself tell the guy showing interest in you to back off. You had to wait on someone else to "get it". The onus seems to be on others to understand women's body language and lack of communication which is what is causing problems between men and women to begin with. If men must get enthusiastic consent and do all the work you mentioned to show interest, why can women not offer the same in return? Why must …
/r/MensRights20/03/23 11:05 PM
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They aren't asking specifically about rejection but dating advice that would help them be more successful. I remember in a relationship sub a couple years ago, someone did an experiment. They pretended to be a middle aged woman trying to get advice on how to date and sleep with younger men, like early 20s. "She" got a ton of affirmation, support and helpful advice. No one called her creepy for being older than the guys she wanted to date. The experimenter waited a bit. Then went onto the sub as …
/r/MensRights20/03/23 10:58 PM
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Doctor: "MrsInnieLicker, are you sexually active?" MrsInnieLicker: "No, I just lie there..."
/r/MensRights20/03/23 09:38 AM
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Could he force her to have kids against her will using her DNA, perhaps even in someone else's body? Especially now that they are divorced?
/r/MensRights19/03/23 03:11 AM
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r/lostredditors
/r/PussyPass18/03/23 03:32 PM
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Good looking, fit, no kids, apparently never married. At 34? I know a woman who fits this profile to a T. She had a long term boyfriend and broke up with him (or it ended) near 30. She had been living in Asia for a while and western women do NOT like local Asian men. She comes from a traditional, religious family. She took care of her skin, though you can see time is not going to be kind to her in a few years. She is in good shape and has an okay job. But for some reason she is already collectin…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/23 01:28 PM
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That's because finding a good man for marriage becomes so much harder. She either has to look at much older men (who may be divorced) or settle for men who are poorer. Their hypergamy will never be satisfied with the latter and parents don't want to let their daughters marry into poverty or a significant lifestyle reduction.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/03/23 01:09 PM
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If it's so much better then why don't the women volunteer to die in the war so the men can continue to live and "suffer"?
/r/MensRights08/03/23 11:23 PM
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Nothing is being done because the second you discuss the possibility of giving rape victims a choice in the matter the state will shut it down because they don't want to pay and women (feminists) will double down on their man hatred. They will claim men will cry false rape to get out of paying child support or that women will be left with no additional income to support their kids. It's money and misandry. The solution is to give men the option to consent to parenting. If they have a relationshi…
/r/MensRights07/03/23 09:15 AM
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Yeah but it's not like women are forming a loving bond with men whether they see them working in gruelling jobs or not. Marriage is in decline and there is a record number of single people. Most people using porn would probably prefer to have sex with someone so it's a substitute. Put another way, if you watch movies about sport and cannot enjoy a game in real life because it isn't like the movies, there is something wrong with you. Not with the film. You should be able to separate fantasy from …
/r/MensRights04/03/23 04:47 AM
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A woman can rape a man or a boy, get pregnant and get child support. The best interests of the child argument has no merit when the victim was a child. The state doesn't want to pay so it will make the rape victim pay. He will be called a deadbeat dad for not wanting anything to do with his rapist and the situation she put them in. If he fails to pay, he faces jail time. Feminists do not protest about this, which is an actual rape culture because it excuses the rape of men and boys at the hands …
/r/PussyPass03/03/23 11:19 PM
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The single older women tend to be fine because they still have choices. They would still pair up with someone if they met the right guy. Problem is that because so many women are offering the right guy easy sex he never has to settle on just one woman. I have yet to meet a single woman in her 30s still not quietly hoping for Mr Right, even if she was single by choice. Those single older men do not have the same privilege women do so they are kinda forced into loneliness. No one would want this.
/r/MensRights02/03/23 04:59 PM
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Yeah but the quieter, nicer guys outnumber the louder assholes. And women are often spoiled for choice in the men they have access to. Far more than men. Most men suffer numerous rejections before a woman says yes. They also take self esteem hits in the process that makes them lower the bar, especially due to loneliness. If the nice women chose the nice men we wouldn't have situations where men are scraping the bottom of the barrel to get affection nor would there be a bunch of single, jaded wom…
/r/MensRights02/03/23 10:11 AM
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That's the hypocrisy yes. Women don't want to be the taller ones, the ones earning more and supporting their partners...they don't want to do the dirty jobs at home such as maintenance and yard work. They don't want to be the first to investigate the noise that could be a home invader. This falls on men, who dare not suggest she take on a traditional role at home. Modern women want equal rights, more benefits and privilege, but no responsibility.
/r/MensRights01/03/23 11:41 PM
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You might be the exception to the rule. And if this is true, there aren't enough of you around to change this trend. Go ask bisexual women what it's like to date women https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4E8qEDi_xg Better yet, ask trans men (that YouTuber has a video about a trans man experiencing emotional isolation and discussing female privilege.) They will start complaining about shit most western women would dismiss when cis men talk about them. Then there is Norah Vincent. A special case. One o…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 11:02 PM
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So many criminals come from single parent (single mom) households that it is actually a societal issue. It's not about the parent who stayed. It's about the choice. Women can consent to sex without consenting to parenting. Men cannot do so. If they consent to sex they consent to parenting. So if a woman decides to keep the kid against his will, she is choosing for all three of them. She is choosing to raise this kid alone, probably in poverty, without caring about his input beyond a sperm donor.…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 10:52 PM
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Norah Vincent is a story we must keep telling. But she killed herself because she had terminal cancer iirc, not because being a man was too hard. She was a man for about 18 months before she stopped the experiment. That being said, she had loads of self reflection. For example, she says it's almost impossible to pluck up the courage, cross the floor and try to chat someone up without sounding like a cheeseball. Because women are in the privileged position of being choosers they very rarely exper…
/r/MensRights01/03/23 09:37 AM
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They won't. The corporations are massive and would make the government's life difficult. Hard work is also an ingrained cultural trait because it is seen as honorable. When you see someone asleep at their desk it is implied they worked so hard they fell asleep... But that would not be tolerated in the west. It is seen as a sign of laziness. Additionally, I have read and heard from people who worked in Japan that the workers are inefficient. Firstly, the language has layers of politeness and a lo…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 06:14 AM
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The law is also in women's favour to such an extent that women can rape men and boys, get pregnant and get child support. The best interests of the child argument falls apart when someone has to pay for the baby she raped a kid to have. The kid who was raped (have a look at the story of Nick Olivias) cannot even opt out when he couldn't consent. Feminists think that rape culture is one where men are getting away with raping women when it is actually one where the state can force men to pay their…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 04:44 AM
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They are called Otakus. They have checked out of society by refusing to study at university, get jobs and work themselves to death for a family they will never see. Without money, they are not seen as masculine enough or worthy for marriage. And they don't really care about marrying anyway. They pretty much stay at home with mom and dad. They maybe work online to earn enough to keep themselves going. They refuse to eat meat. Their families are too ashamed to talk about them so no one does anythi…
/r/MensRights26/02/23 04:05 AM
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Just identify as a woman when you park. What are they going to do? Be transphobic because of a parking space?
/r/PussyPass24/02/23 07:28 PM
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Virtue signalling. Do you have any idea what a tightrope a man would have to walk to appeal to her whims? He would need to dominate her in a way she wants without him having to tell her (I have heard some women say he needs to "put me in my place") and know when he shouldn't be dominant, again without any communication about when it is needed. Usually this translates to she gets all the money and lifestyle upgrades while he agrees to everything she wants, but he must do all the work during sex a…
/r/MensRights14/02/23 03:52 PM
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What they want is to restrain men's sexuality because they fear it.
/r/AntiFeminists14/02/23 02:52 PM
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Isn't it more sexist to imply women have no agency? Feminists are saying adult women simply lose all sense and can make no decisions for themselves when older men come by. And good luck enforcing the age of consent on women. That's oppression.
/r/AntiFeminists14/02/23 02:52 PM
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Ended up writing a book, but ended up with major depression out the saga and ended up killing herself. Didn't she have terminal cancer? But yes, she eventually discovered how hard it is to approach women without coming off as a "cheese all". And then she described how you will pluck up the courage, walk across the room, filled with insecurity, and in one word "no" all your hopes come crashing down. It made me realise that women don't really know what it's like on the other side. So much so that …
/r/MensRights13/02/23 01:04 PM
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I just wish that a good argument with evidence was enough to change minds. We'd have fixed many more problems through reason, using scientific evidence and not letting ideological bias influence studies of human behaviour and psychology.
/r/AntiFeminists12/02/23 01:53 AM
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Individual women are born into a context they didn't create. They then choose if they want to perpetuate the narrative or go against it. It's not your fault that others may perceive you in a way that benefits you. How you react to it is on you. A woman who is willing to work hard, wants an equal partnership, communicates like an adult and doesn't use sex as a tool to manipulate her partner DESPITE living in a society that would excuse her poorest behaviour is showing maturity. She isn't going to…
/r/AntiFeminists12/02/23 01:47 AM
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And take note in the comments how they still believe he offers nothing of value. He has a sense of humour and he navigated the criticism well. I think women get away with being immature in a way men are never allowed to. So there is no incentive for them to become women. Girls play with your feelings. Women get to the point. Girls want you to spoil them. Women treat you like a king (and you hopefully are treating her like a queen). Girls call you daddy. Women call you their man or partner. Girls…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/02/23 11:00 PM
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https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/#:~:text=The%20CDC%20reports%20that%2012.3,using%20the%20CDC's%20inflated%20statistics. The CDC uncovered that women rape as much as men. So any stat saying 99% of rapists are men is not true because "made to penetrate" or being forced to have sex by a woman is often not counted.
/r/MensRights08/02/23 09:35 PM
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A woman can rape a minor, get pregnant and get child support from the child she raped. The state allows this. This (and how women raping men is treated) tells us that there is indeed a rape culture. But one where it's acceptable if women harm men.
/r/MensRights07/02/23 08:34 AM
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Congratulations. You just checked out yourself.
/r/MensRights05/02/23 02:11 AM
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That issue about the domestic duties is really shitty. They make a big stink about cleaning up the home as if it is slavery. But they are silent when it is proven men do more physically demanding jobs, work longer hours and are generally only considered worthy of marriage if they earn more (much more) than women. They are also quiet on men doing all the dirty jobs at home: plumbing, electrical work, physical maintenance of the home such as repairs and painting, mowing the lawn, car maintenance s…
/r/MensRights01/02/23 11:28 PM
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A man only has value if he wins the approval of women. Women are the choosers and men are the approachers. By default this creates a power dynamic where women pick from available suitors because it is assumed they are more valuable, because they are sought after. A woman generally has a problem picking quality from quantity. A man generally has a problem with a lack of options. She is in demand, he is not. Not unless he does something that gains him social status. Therefore a man who is single, …
/r/MensRights31/01/23 10:10 AM
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Yeah but the implication is that companies and governments act as a filtering tool for women's sexuality. "Yes, fire him. He isn't hot enough for me and he asked me out on a date. I am so offended someone too unattractive approached me that I would rather his livelihood and reputation be destroyed than accept that unattractive people may sometimes show interest in me." Everyone would love it if only the hot people showed interest. Women get to weaponise their sexual selection system because offe…
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 12:18 AM
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Based on Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts, 45% of prime working age women (ages 25-44) will be single by 2030—the largest share in history—up from 41% in 2018. That's because single women spend more than any demographic. And what are they spending their money on? apparel and footwear, personal care, food away from home, and luxury and electric automobiles. Tyler Durden from Fight Club knew what he was talking about when he said advertising has got us chasing cars and cl…
/r/AntiFeminists20/01/23 12:10 AM
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Take whatever they complain about men that doesn't make sense and see it as projection. For example, the gender far more likely to have rape fantasies are women. And yet they accuse men of being rapists all the time. This would be like a guy calling all women sluts because he dreams of fucking around and imagines that all women do is hook up with strangers.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/23 08:20 AM
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That's the loophole. They cannot criticise the women for going after an older guy. So they target the men. Women hold men to a higher moral standard than they do themselves, thanks very much to a feminist and left leaning cultural narrative that men and boys are bad because they have penises and testosterone and rapey thoughts. So they have to be watched and told to be better humans. Meanwhile women can rape, have the most rape fantasies, can be sexist towards men, actively ignore times when wom…
/r/AntiFeminists16/01/23 12:04 AM
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And feminists are silent when those adult women can legally get child support from their rape victims. If you have a son going through puberty, he will be thousands in debt at 18 if an adult woman rapes him, gets pregnant then decides to keep the child. And yet, feminists aren't out protesting against the actual rape culture where women raping men and boys is seen as okay.
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 11:48 PM
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Woman gets raped, man is an evil piece of shit who should be buried under the jail. Man gets raped, everyone laughs and he pays child support to his rapist for 18 years. Oh, and if an adult woman rapes your minor son, gets pregnant and decides to keep the kid? Guess what? He has to pay child support when he is 18 and he will be thousands in arrears. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-trauma/201902/when-male-rape-victims-are-accountable-child-support The best interests of the c…
/r/AntiFeminists15/01/23 07:48 AM
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I will agree with the women that riding all that D doesn't really do much to a vagina. A woman can marry her husband and fuck him 10 000 times and get the same number in km. Her vagina will be the same. Let's not hide any disgust about the number and the nature of her work in relation to her value as a long term partner. No one wants to marry the village bicycle. And they certainly don't want to buy (pay full price for) a repeatedly rented bike. Where I disagree with women is how a woman like th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/23 02:52 PM
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I bet you she isn't even thinking about lowering the bar to anything below wealthy, with preferences for tall, handsome and a forgiving attitude to her past. Jesus Christ...she isn't ugly but she cannot be seriously thinking of a husband after spending her youth avoiding being anyone's wife.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen14/01/23 02:46 PM
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For example, most men will tell you that sex has more to do with pleasing their partners than themselves. One of the most humiliating insults a man can receive is being a terrible lover. Men sometimes train their penises to last longer so their partners can enjoy sex more. They want women to enjoy and want sex with them. Even the guys that are dominating their partners BDSM style understand they are playing a role and aren't really trying to oppress their partners. There are quite a few men who …
/r/MensRights14/01/23 12:19 AM
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It is my opinion that women are still not equal to men. You are right. Women have more rights than men in the west. Even though you note women have lost a bit regarding Roe vs Wade, it was still more than men had. And women can go to another state to get an abortion where it is legal if they need to. I am not saying it is ideal, but it is there. No one should force a woman to have a kid against her will. However, we allow women so much freedom to force men to be parents against their will, we ev…
/r/AntiFeminists13/01/23 08:46 AM
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That wall of text telling me how I think 😂 the arrogance is so laughable Making this about you is pretty arrogant.
/r/AntiFeminists05/01/23 09:58 AM
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I don’t think women quiet mind being single, than being married to a man they don’t like. Sure. But that's an unwilling compromise. That's like saying you would rather eat nothing than eat shit. When in reality you don't want to be hungry. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ According to that stat about half of single people do still want to meet someone. The majority of people who have never married do still want to meet someone and settle down: T…
/r/AntiFeminists05/01/23 01:21 AM
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I think I wrote too much. No one wants to read a wall of text tearing into their point XD
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 12:36 PM
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Thanks!
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 12:35 PM
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It happened in Norway and Sweden (iirc) to such an extent the Scandinavian women wanted to pass laws to ban (mostly Vietnamese) women from entering the country. Why? The Scandinavian men were bringing back wives. They would travel, meet a gorgeous Asian woman, date, fuck like rabbits, then get married and return to Europe. The Scandinavian women - who are hardcore feminist, don't forget - were allegedly protecting these poor women from trafficking. Except these guys were coming back with marriag…
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 09:27 AM
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They call them beauty standards because they want men to believe they can be changed by an attitude adjustment. But imagine calling out their height preferences for unrealistic beauty standards despite the fact that weight can change...
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 09:15 AM
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There is a vast difference in cultures across Asia. The Chinese are particularly materialistic. However, most Filipinas I have met were quite nice and were quite friendly.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 07:54 AM
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Education isn't the issue, it's the attitude. But college educated women are among those most likely to initiate divorce. They are something like 9 times more likely to divorce than college educated men. Women already tend to initiate first but if a guy wants to stay married, dating an educated woman comes with strings attached. He is also probably going to have to cop the blame for the failure of the marriage. Women are hardly ever blamed for relationships failing.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 06:11 AM
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Single motherhood just keeps growing. And single moms are among the most desperate to marry. Amazing how they never thought of this before having sex with an uncommitted partner.
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 01:57 AM
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Thing is, all those single women in the US - or most of them - do still want a partner. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201709/how-many-americans-want-be-single-results-5-studies In that article they also state that the women who want to marry the most are single moms. There are a lot of single moms in the US. So men can either target women who want to marry - but have kids - or women who are childless but still support marriage. The trouble is that when you ask someone whe…
/r/AntiFeminists04/01/23 01:55 AM
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I always warn foreigners about this. Asia is a great place to get your rocks off if you are western and white (and even black Africans can have a good time, though they tend not to hold a positive view of darker skinned people). But marriage is a different ballgame altogether. You basically lose all control and are supposed to pay for a lifestyle she wants. Her family will run the house and you pick up the tab. If you think your culture worships money, it cannot even hold a candle to Chinese cul…
/r/AntiFeminists03/01/23 11:55 PM
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It would be great if "concern for children" also included the choices of the mother. A woman cheating is not thinking about the consequences nor the concern for any potential kids she may have. The concern for the child stops when someone pays. Not regarding the children's relationship with their actual father. It is rather hypocritical to claim concern for the kid, but then be okay with them not knowing their real dad. That child would grow up under a lie and if they ever discovered the truth t…
/r/MensRights03/01/23 12:41 AM
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So do we just leave the fatherless children to starve or die of exposure? They are strong, independent feminist women who were so empowered they cheated on their partners with no concern for the wellbeing of their relationship or future child. I’m not saying men who aren’t their fathers should be stuck with them, but we can’t just abandon these kids either. Women are very much allowed to abandon their kids. They have safe haven laws that allow them to drop unwanted kids off at certain places. Th…
/r/MensRights03/01/23 12:22 AM
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Simple. Swap the kids after they are born, especially for single moms. Then tell them "Motherhood is defined by society, not biology" and see how they feel about raising someone else's kids. Better yet, intentionally lie to them about it so when they discover it, they then have to go through the emotional turmoil of raising a child who isn't theirs and trying to right for justice against a system that doesn't care. Bonus betrayal if it was her husband's mistress's child. You will be sure to see …
/r/MensRights03/01/23 12:11 AM
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Most teachers are women and the ones struggling most at school and getting fewer degrees are boys. If your argument is that girls are being ignored by the teacher, it seems we should be helping boys first because they are being ignored way more. If you claim that a teacher is being lazy and not doing what they are supposed to then fixing the exam by lowering standards isn't the answer. It's getting those teachers - again, mostly women - interested in teaching math. Math teachers are not favourin…
/r/MensRights30/12/22 03:30 PM
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This is the biggest con. How exactly is it bad that you found compatibility through friendship? Additionally, you took the nice approach. You weren't being an asshole about it. How else do women prefer to find romantic partners? Without even knowing you can be friends? I am not saying women owe men sex and relationships for friendship. No. I am saying they shit on men for trying to be friends then falling for them when what they are really mad about is not getting all those freebies. Freebies wi…
/r/AntiFeminists29/12/22 11:34 PM
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and my ex wife raped me ffs But you're a man! You must have wanted it. Men can't be raped, silly. Only men rape! Ignore the CDC's surveyed stats showing that women rape men as much as men rape women. https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/#:~:text=The%20CDC%20reports%20that%2012.3,using%20the%20CDC's%20inflated%20statistics. You, a man, could never understand that women feel unsafe more than you so they need more protection than you. Check your male privilege! And stop mansplaining while you'…
/r/MensRights28/12/22 06:51 AM
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Wrong comparison. Him watching porn would be the same as her watching it. But actually taking pics of yourself and posting them online for others to see is different. You are choosing to share an intimate part of yourself with others without the consent of your partner. It's different if they are making porn together and sharing it. A better comparison would be if he took semi nude or sexually explicit pictures of himself and posted it online. He would have men and women commenting on his body a…
/r/AntiFeminists26/12/22 01:37 AM
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Of course women can be good leaders. The problem is when they claim they are superior to men, in one way or another. There is a myth among feminists that a world run by women will be havens of peace, art and culture where everyone will enjoy a high standard of living. In reality, every matriarchal society (that isn't built upon the back of male ingenuity, hard work, sacrifice and leadership) doesn't advance beyond the stone age. They have no resources to offer anyone and they live in mud huts. W…
/r/AntiFeminists23/12/22 11:21 AM
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If they can increase the price of sex when it is convenient for them, while offering it freely to attractive men when it is convenient for them, they will have the world they want. Men who they will never fuck will give them money for simply having a vagina while the two rich, tall, hot guys at school or work she actually wants to fuck will battle each other for her attention. This is a western feminist woman's wet dream. Also note how many of them have rape fantasies compared to women from more…
/r/AntiFeminists20/12/22 07:39 AM
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It's like they tried to back men into a corner into accepting them at their most selfish, where they never had to compromise for men's benefit while men always had to compromise for women's. Men leaving is seen as them cheating women out of an opportunity to have it all. They want men to be submissive everywhere, except the bedroom where he must know how to make her orgasm by dominating her enough and giving her the hour or more of foreplay she deserves. Then they divorce the guys when they beco…
/r/AntiFeminists20/12/22 07:36 AM
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Dude, SEX IS NOT A RESOURCE! You sure? Because it can be traded, sold and used as a tool to get things from others. Women treat it as a tool or resource when it is convenient for them. They can make money with it. Those content creators and pornstars use it to make a living. How are they able to do it with no resources? How are they able to divide up time with them for money without offering a product that comes from a resource? I would climb mountains, gift thousands of dollars generously, and …
/r/MensRights14/12/22 08:53 AM
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Women despise weak men. These men are the most undesirable of society. Problem is that every other marginalized group gets some sort of support from left leaning feminists. Even Islam, which oppresses women. They preach tolerance for different voices but silence incels because they fear them. Why? Because a closer look at their predicament might mean considering empathy for their position. Empathy means applying some action to help improve their situation and it would come at the cost of women. …
/r/MensRights13/12/22 10:45 PM
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You missed the point of it reinforcing the belief that men are lazy. You not wanting to fuck a deadbeat is fine but you ignored the wider context. It isn't framed as "partners lose attraction to lazy partners".
/r/MensRights13/12/22 11:20 AM
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Sure but the point is they apply it to one gender and the discrimination against men continues. It reinforces the perception that men are out having fun at work while women are taking up a second shift. I pointed out the double standard regarding how gender roles for men are still expected while they vanished for women and got downvoted to oblivion. A poster said they would not want to date a lazy man child but that parent-child dynamic is supposedly okay when men are the parent. Men must adhere…
/r/MensRights12/12/22 09:57 PM
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They don't need to have the affairs. But there was once a femcel subreddit that had to go private because men kept offering to date (and yes, have sex with) them. You cannot claim that no man wants you when you are still getting offers. And no, seeking validation from men only you find attractive doesn't count. You need to be involuntarily celibate, not picky. This would be like a guy complaining he is lonely because the skinny blondes with big boobs won't look his way, meanwhile he keeps turnin…
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 09:37 PM
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We could maybe sniff out the feminism if feminist women excused this and said that women should be excused for cheating or if women should have the right to mess around...maybe if they are even supporting a woman who committed paternity fraud. But this fake video is of infidelity. The mods need to clamp down on this shit.
/r/AntiFeminists12/12/22 10:19 AM
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Yeah it's just cheating women. Maybe they need a separate sub for it. Plus, she is waiting for a proposal but he is serving her divorce papers? How?
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 09:45 PM
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Most women I know (including myself) work at least 35+ hours week and we also do our fair share at home, so I don’t really get why you are so negative about western women? It's the attitude western women have that they believe they do more than men and that they do "unpaid labour" despite choosing to get married and have kids. Having a family means labour but men's labour is often ignored. Most men spend more time at work than most women. https://www.forbes.com/sites/karinagness/2016/06/30/new-r…
/r/AntiFeminists11/12/22 04:32 AM
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I don't think they were talking about fairness so much as willingness to work. I agree, the workload should be shared or you should have roles where each partner agrees to do what needs to be done to keep the home running. I am saying this because I also take care of my home and family because I believe that my wife should not feel overwhelmed. However, the point the other poster was making was to contrast this with many western women who believe a marriage is where men provide a lifestyle upgra…
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 02:39 PM
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This also happened in Norway, Sweden and Finland...the so-called feminist havens. The women there started panicking because their men kept bringing back wives from Thailand and Vietnam. They wanted to somehow stop them getting visas under the guise of sex trafficking but they were married to these men and there was nothing they could do. I have also had online exchanges with western women about this. They claim the men have Asian fetishes. They say the men cannot handle real women. They say the …
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 02:18 PM
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Cats are fine as pets. It's when they become your replacement children because no one ever measured up to your ridiculous demands and standards that there is a problem. People who die alone with their cat babies become food for their cat babies.
/r/AntiFeminists10/12/22 01:51 PM
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It's called the Duluth model. Dreamt up by feminists who believe men use physical violence to subdue women into domestic servitude. They claim it is a gendered problem. But most domestic violence is reciprocal: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07#:~:text=Large%20epidemiological%20studies%20have%20demonstrated,an%20excess%20of%20violent%20women. And when it isn't, women are overwhelmingly t…
/r/MensRights07/12/22 11:35 PM
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Attention. Women like this do it for attention.
/r/AntiFeminists07/12/22 09:35 PM
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It is far more acceptable to condemn a man to death than to offend women and their left leaning cronies.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 11:25 PM
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It never used to be is what people are saying. It is now. So men just don't bother approaching. This is despite women still believing men should approach. This could be solved by women approaching instead but they are cowards who fear rejection. Still, they expect men to overcome their fear of rejection and possibly being called out for harassment to know that they, the individual, want to be approached. So men just don't do it anymore. Much of approaching is done online and that's a barren wast…
/r/AntiFeminists06/12/22 10:59 PM
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Ugly women get offended when pretty women get all the attention. They then shame men for giving pretty women compliments because shaming women would be internalised misogyny and counter to the feminist movement. Slut shaming is not a good look even though they are very much jealous of the pretty women. They then get a foothold by claiming men are shallow, perverts, pedophiles etc so they can, ironically, drive conservative, sex negative attitudes into any discussions about courting. They eventua…
/r/AntiFeminists06/12/22 10:55 PM
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I am as anti feminist as they come and even I am scratching my head looking for how feminism did this. Just sounds like a cheating ho of a wife. If, however, she said that as women they are entitled to a few mistakes here and there because of equality thanks to feminism or feminist logic then sure. Or if she said women should be able to cheat and it should be treated differently to when men do it (I have seen that argument before) then we could maybe sniff out some feminism in the sexist attitud…
/r/AntiFeminists05/12/22 10:18 PM
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They will try to shame you. But fuck it, go do what you want to do. There are loads of east and south east Asian women who would gladly commit to men from the west. I remember reading an article years ago about a guy who dated a Japanese woman who was okay with traditional gender roles. She came from a poor village so when they met she scored a lifestyle upgrade. She stayed home and was amazed at how quickly she could get chores done. She had more free time than before and reckoned Western women…
/r/MensRights04/12/22 03:42 PM
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Women don't have a set floor or baselines of attractiveness...at least it isn't objective. It is relative. If almost every guy in the village is 5 foot 9, the 5 foot 10 guy gets the most attention. In comes a 6 foot tall guy and 5 foot 10 guy is done for. Men tend to have a range of attractiveness or a baseline for sex and dating. If you are a 4 with a good attitude he may throw you a bone. If you are chubby but cute and girly, there is still hope. Yes, the hot girl is always going to get more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 02:02 PM
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The red pill stance isn't simply an abolishment of those laws. It's that modern women will very proudly claim they don't need men, men are shit and men are to blame for their misery etc Then marry a guy out of desperation, be controlling, use sex as a tool or offer less of it as the marriage continues, rely on him for financial support and to maintain the lifestyle she wants, then initiate divorce when she isn't feeling the tingles anymore. This strong, independent woman who needs no man still n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 01:44 PM
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That's Jason Momoa off his steroid cycle. https://www.instyle.com/thmb/bamjPTSU60hJ_1thAcZU-nnqzLc=/750x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/061417-celeb-dad-bods-1-61adb38803c1433ebbacaac8b4ee6e97.jpg That's what an actual dad bod looks like...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:15 PM
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Do you not think she might also feel the same way? That you will have made moves on many women, and she is just the one who accepted. She doesn't have to say yes. Just as she doesn't have to fuck some guys she just met. If she genuinely feels she is settling why is she saying yes? Additionally, women are very picky and create this problem. A guy wouldn't have to ask out many women and wait for a yes if they didn't have high expectations. They cannot complain they are not special because he asked…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:42 PM
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What if it's not about the person but if you just wanted to have sex, feel a warm body or get some validation? Sometimes its just because that person is just there at the right time. Then why should a guy offer more than sex in return? If you are dating to find a boyfriend you may have to do more than offer sex for a relationship to happen. And if you do offer sex but want more, what else are you doing or not doing for a relationship to happen? How can a man take you seriously if yesterday you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:25 PM
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Don't forget that if you have health insurance it also funds treatment and contraceptives that are specific to women. Men already pay for this directly or indirectly. Women can help pay for this just as men are paying for services they will never use.
/r/AntiFeminists02/12/22 12:44 PM
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I didn’t read his points ngl I don't agree with his stance about his ideal society at all. But the rest of his points are actually solid and someone should be having a look to see if they can be argued against. If not then what's the point of the sub? Someone's argument can still be valid regardless of whether you like them or not. How can any counter argument be taken in good faith when no one is actually reading what they are arguing against?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 11:00 PM
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There are plenty of Asian women who would date a conservative man. They come from conservative homes themselves. If he travels to East and Southeast Asia he can find a wife who will probably support his ideals. If he doesn't like Asian women there may even be some Eastern European or Russian women who support his views and many of them don't like feminism much either. But you have not addressed any of OP's points. You tossed out an ad hominem and dropped the mic. What about the dating data? What…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/22 10:56 PM
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A few years ago I was in a conversation with a young man on Reddit who said he would never want a daughter so would insist his partner aborted if she was pregnant with a female fetus. He hadn't grasped that he legally couldn't insist on this although of course he could share his preference with his partner. I was horrified to realize this extent of ignorance existed. There was a meme going around once where a woman said she was going to the doctor to see if she was pregnant with a girl or gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 10:45 PM
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I've never understood why this is stated so often. The women here keep saying they would rather be alone than not be with Mr Perfect. Buuuuttt if they're not stupid they'll realize none of those men want them for more than a few dates and eventually they'll take whay they can get too. A lot of women (and men) are stupid when it comes to relationships. There is a record number of single people in absolute and relative terms due largely to women's pickiness in a market that offers them many, many …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:39 PM
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most guys are not nearly as good at sex as they think they are. Most women need FAR more and better foreplay than they get in order to make sex as enjoyable as it can be. I’m talking at least 30min or more of foreplay… starting at the top and working your way down, paying attention to all the important nooks and crannies along the way. Not just jumping straight to the button and hitting it on high speed. Then you get to the actual sex, which adds what? Another 10-30min depending? So we’re talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 03:53 AM
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Would women gladly give up the option of casual sex and/or be consistent in their treatment of the men they desire? What men are talking about is that she has a summer fling with some guy she barely knows, fucks him for a bit then when she gets back to real life she makes the guy who she says she likes wait for sex. That's a silly example but it gets the spirit of the argument across. Why is the same sex more valuable after waiting? Or is she worried about getting pumped and dumped?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 12:33 PM
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Do these men commenting in this sub look like they have solved their issues, shortcomings and traumas? Nope. They are exactly like the women on this sub who also haven't sorted out their issues, shortcomings and traumas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:46 PM
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You can project this shit all you want because what men want is hot, young and child free. I can guarantee you there are more men looking at the 27 year old and thinking about sex with someone in better shape and who looks good rather than getting off to manipulating her. Otherwise if the 27 year olds chased them down (which they do if the 40 year olds are rich enough) they would say no. Women are the ones who get off on manipulating men. They use sex to get men to give them what they want. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 11:44 PM
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Not if the obese girls fall into it, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 09:14 AM
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Men get the same confusing messages but regarding what women want in relationships. Yes the boys will talk about body parts and numbers and sex acts. But that's what gets them going. The thing is that we tend to treat men's sexuality as more deviant but women's as morally pure so men think they need to put women on a pedestal. They hide their sexuality from women not to offend them. They hide that their self esteem is built upon pleasing women and their greatest desire is to make her feel really…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:57 PM
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I don't think many men are arguing for sexual intimacy without other forms of it in relationships. Most men, especially young men, are romantic at heart. Men are the ones who wrote plays, painted and dedicated poetry to love and for the love of women. Gay men still wanted to be married and they do enjoy emotional intimacy with their partners as well. Is there a myth going around that men want no emotional intimacy with their wives and girlfriends? What they are saying is sex is really important …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 11:35 PM
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Lesbian bed death is a thing. And women are far more unhappy today than they were 60 years ago. https://www.nber.org/papers/w29893 They call it the female happiness paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:48 PM
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You didn't read their comment, but put in the effort to reply and say you aren't going to read it. Why not just not read it and not reply? Why partially ignore it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:46 PM
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Look, if you jizzed let me add one special ingredient to the sauce, you will have more female customers...and a few extra men too. I am doing this for the benefit of the cumpany.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 10:43 PM
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And now his first was drilled through her head.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/11/22 10:01 PM
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It's still a lot though.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:56 PM
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You're sharing an idea they support. Is your position undefendable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:05 AM
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Free will seems like it is for women then because we are ok with removing men's free will for the benefit of women. Not only must men be okay with signing up for the draft, but if they want sex but don't want kids we are ok with tossing them in jail for being too poor to pay for a woman's choice. Her free will trumps his. So much so that a woman can rape a man, get pregnant and still sue for child support and win! How can we be okay with the argument that women shouldn't have to fuck men they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 07:05 AM
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Again, men have stalker stories as well. They have crazy exes who destroy their cars and threaten to sabotage their lives. There was a video doing the rounds a while back of a man who caught his partner cheating and she wouldn't let him leave. He was smart and recorded it because she was crazy. She could cry rape or assault and no one would believe him. Men don't talk about this stuff like women do. They don't believe anyone will care enough to do anything about it and women's issues get way mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 03:33 PM
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If this were the case then all women's motivations for career advancement, complaints about a lack of women in STEM, a lack of female CEOs and not enough protection from the big, scary world are all entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:54 PM
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Sex involves more than just one person, you are not entitled to demanding sex from anybody. This isn't the argument, though. It's that a sex drive is so strong it isn't something someone can ignore and be entirely happy about. Sure, you shouldn't force your sexuality on anyone, but at the same time if we are going to expect society to function, we have to be aware of the standards of living we provide. If we go the other way and say your desires are your problem, then we kinda have to be dicks a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 02:50 PM
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Also with the unmarried single mothers raising non masculine men discussion I understand as women we choose who we have children with but I just think once you bring a child into this world as a father you should step up and raise them and as a mother you should do the same.Both should be held accountable if they fail to do so. Is like I always question yes there is single mothers doing both roles and that’s not good but why is the father not stepping up to do his role. You have to understand th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 05:36 AM
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I would counter this by saying that even when women just want sex they are met with a lot of positivity and are encouraged to express their sexuality. Even on kink subs men are directly or indirectly told to restrain themselves while women have no restrictions saying what they want or approaching who they want. Even if it is offensive to men it tends to be allowed. A man must simply obey if he wants sex from women. Imagine there was a wealth and money sub where women were told to keep their gold…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:10 AM
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Why does everyone who makes this argument always remove the context? Men don't want to commit to sluts. They will fuck them. But they don't want to marry them. "Nah, you were a slut at one point so fuck you" Again, context. Women change the rules when it is convenient for them. Yesterday she was a slut. Today she isn't. Men don't want to play that game so why bother? A woman with no principles cannot be trusted. For example, you will see single moms claiming they are traditional women who are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 12:29 PM
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They, whether Chad or non-Chad, all want to keep their options open, sow their wild oats and it’s only when their hairline starts to recede and their belly starts to soften that they try to lock down the women they’re with. The only men who are able to sow their wild oats to the extent you are describing are the minority of men who are very desirable to women. Most men would marry younger than older because their female peers are in their prime. They tend to get rejected in their youth a lot mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 09:41 AM
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The myth men are sold is that romance - or hard work to seduce her - will work. The truth is that if you have the looks and the status, that's romantic enough. All the other frills like fancy dates and gifts are just bonuses she can squeeze out of you whether she is into you or not. If she really wants you she won't care for all that. She will put in effort to see you and be with you. Or she will meet your romantic enthusiasm because she wants to show you she cares. Otherwise just be pragmatic. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:49 PM
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Why do women commit to men who cannot do things like clean up after themselves then complain about it? Go date or marry someone else who can or accept you will be cleaning up after him. If the flaws someone has are a deal-breaker maybe don't date them or marry them. If men are expected to accept women's imperfections - and never complain about them so they don't hurt women's feelings - why can women not accept men's flaws? So if you do commit to the guy you have to take the good with the bad if …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:16 PM
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Who expects men to change for women's benefit? Women mostly but men too. They complain all the time how men are not doing enough to seduce them, not giving them enough orgasms, not doing enough chores, or that men just aren't worth it because they would rather be alone than not get that 10/10 guy. All of this falls on men to "be better" for women with no expectation that women be better for men. The advice they get is that they must be willing to work hard and change to appeal to women. Feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:10 PM
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It is expected of men that they be willing to change for women's benefit. It is considered sexist to expect women to change for men's benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:09 PM
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There was an older guy on an AskReddit thread who, through years of asking and analysing finally got what women like about men's hands. Clean hands with trimmed nails that are big, hairy and accompanied by strong (veiny or muscular) forearms did the trick. But he said getting the answer from women was like getting blood from a stone. That being said, part of the reason you aren't getting an answer is because the parts of men women find attractive are about their utility and are signals of wealth…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:25 AM
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If men know what turns you on they can appeal to you more. It makes sense especially when women complain men don't put enough effort in. What's the point of saying men aren't doing enough to be sexually attractive to women but women are unable to say what exactly sexually attractive means?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:10 AM
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The top comment pointed out that maybe just his sister was a cunt not that all women were cunts.
/r/MensRights22/11/22 11:32 PM
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When you call a girl “baby” during sex are you actually thinking of an infant human being? HOPEFULLY, the answer is no. Women call men "baby" as well. Men do not call their women daddy or even mommy. Women enjoy a parent-child relationship when their men assume a parental style role. This means he is strong, protective and takes care of her like her father did (especially financially). Her partner becomes a replacement parental figure. No one really has an issue with it because women don't mind …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 11:30 PM
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Whenever the MRAs gather they get the fire alarm pulled on them. People who wanted to view The Red Pill documentary were threatened by angry feminists to such an extent they needed to increase security for the audience. OP missed the part where women's violence is excused a lot more. There were even popular hashtags on twitter like KillAllMen that would have been treated as hate speech had the genders been swapped. But the most hypocritical thing women can ask is "why aren't you men doing anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 01:35 PM
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Her: "What? Are you gay?" Him: "No, you're just too fat and ugly to make my dick hard."
/r/AntiFeminists21/11/22 11:40 PM
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You can shit on men all you want, but Dave Chappelle was right. You cannot piss off the alphabet people. He once got called in because a skit of his had him saying the word "faggot" a few times and they told him he cannot say it because he wasn't gay. But then he asked why he could say the N word with impunity and no one has an issue with it. Because he didn't consider himself one. It made them uncomfortable because they either had to acknowledge they saw him as one or they had to drop the censo…
/r/AntiFeminists21/11/22 11:38 PM
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Not just that but they told men not to bother them. Men listened and now they have a surprised Pikachu face. It's like every demand men gave into, women were more surprised that men either called their bluffs or that they got what they said they wanted. There were some theories among red pillers that feminism was a giant shit test. Women are waiting for men to say when they have had enough but they don't want to give in easily themselves. So they make it as hard as possible for men to share unfl…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 11:29 PM
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However, morbidly obese women tend to have higher N counts than thinner women. They have the highest N count of any group, getting laid more than average men. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6hxr9t/study_shows_morbidly_obese_women_have_the_same/ The fatter women enjoy the attention more than the thinner ones do. Morbidly obese men have the lowest N counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 10:50 PM
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Bafana means boy. This was a boy who ended his life because he didn't have faith in his country. Many South Africans have left already because they had no faith in what has become a failing state. Regular power cuts, rampant corruption and high crime do not make for pleasant reading but they are South Africa's legacy. Yes, rape of women is high. Yes, violent crime is high. But it's due to overwhelming neglect by a government that over promised and under delivered. Go look at the youth unemployme…
/r/MensRights21/11/22 09:35 AM
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They are desperate and lonely. They need to go outside and exercise. They need to socialise and learn how to make friends. And if push comes to shove, see a few prostitutes to scratch the itch. Once they get over the experience and know there is sex available to them if they have the money they will put themselves first, such as earning money for themselves rather than wasting it on dates and dead ends. Simping is a desperate man's last ditch attempt at impressing a woman for sex. He has nothing…
/r/AntiFeminists20/11/22 11:28 PM
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This is a poor analogy because a company knows full well it is exploiting your labour. Unless you acknowledge that these women know the men desire them and are taking advantage. At which point the analogy is brilliant. In which case we cannot take women's complaints about being lied to seriously because they were lying to the men as well about being aware of what they wanted and using it to extract benefits from them. I do believe that guys in this position should stop this behaviour because it …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:31 PM
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How can you say they are genuinely in love with the woman but then in the next sentence say want to establish friendship first. How can you be “genuinely in love” with someone you don’t know at all and have no relationship with? I dunno about you but if you call someone a friend it means you got to know them. Unless you call acquaintances friends, what you said doesn't make sense. and then all of the sudden it becomes sexual but really from his perspective the goal was sexual from the start, it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:25 PM
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It's creepy that they're pretending to be friends with someone. You can be respectful and not objectifying whist still making your interest in her clear. They are genuinely in love with these women. If it was just for a quick fuck they would give up soon and move on. They want to establish a friendship first for compatibility. Women don't see this. They cannot see a friendship going into romantic territory so they assume he is pretending. But for men it is possible. You can be friends with someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 10:46 AM
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Why do people always assume women are lying when we say we don't want a massive body builder guy who doesn't show emotions and lives to work? I have met many single guys who were borderline incels who were overweight or obese. I have yet to meet a bodybuilder who has struggled to get laid or find a date. There was one guy who couldn't stay in LTRs but he had mental issues and he still had a past fraught with promiscuity. It's not that men cannot believe you don't like that. But it doesn't quite …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:26 AM
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If it is subjective maybe advocating that others abandon the desire is a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 07:00 AM
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That could work for some loners but we have survived this far because of relationships. We need people. We need people to do things for us and we do things for them. Until a human is able to meet their needs and many of their wants on their own - and no, working for a company and shopping at a store still need others - we will always need people close to us to help us get by. This is why being a single mom is so hard and why it's a dumb idea to try to raise a kid on your own if you can avoid it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 06:58 AM
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In every interview the men sit around listening to the WNBA players whine, spout feminist rhetoric, and then the men just nod their head in agreement. It would be career suicide for them to disagree
/r/AntiFeminists19/11/22 01:30 PM
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This post is female projection. The average guy isn't so unappealing. He is just average. You women only rate men as a 0 or a 10 and then expect men to understand your pain when you cannot find a comfortable chair that is out of your price range. No. It is that women who are desperate for a relationship and want a family settle because their other options run out. There are women who won't settle. But the choice is not between an obese incel or loneliness. You are creating a false choice here. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:21 AM
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Adam: Hey Eve, I went clothing shopping! Here, fig leaves are in this season... What's for lunch? Eve: Apples Eve hides a Devilish grin
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 09:12 AM
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This is pretty much it. Women are attracted to assholes far more than they care to admit. They date and marry them and try to change them into the nicer men they reject anyway (any man who has been changed will probably get dumped). So when she thinks of her asshole ex, she is trying to shape her son into the man she wished he was. Her ex was brash, narcissistic, selfish and would break her self esteem through disrespectful and mean comments. So she figures if her son is respectful to the point …
/r/AntiFeminists18/11/22 11:38 PM
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Men can do whatever they want. I just don’t want a guy I’m with to This isn't the issue so much as women insisting men change their behaviour and tastes to suit women. You highlighted the issue nicely. Most times when women have issues with porn it's just plain insecurity. Most porn stars are B cup brunettes. But you wouldn't think that because of all the surgery around even among non pornstars. If porn is a deal-breaker, and women have every right to say it is, women need to be prepared for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 11:26 PM
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I think they just hate having to work or earn stuff. They hate their jobs and want cushier positions so they blame men for not giving them free promotions. They hate changing diapers and cleaning up after kids they chose to have so they blame men for not giving them less work to do. They hate maintaining their homes so they blame men for not doing enough dishes. They hate fucking their husbands so they blame men for not doing enough to appease them. At every point men must make what they want ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:36 PM
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I see this trash talk among incels a lot. They really feel terrible about themselves so they need to bring others down to feel better about their shituations. Older women do it to younger women directly and indirectly. They shame younger women by telling them to cover up around male relatives and coworkers. When they get called out for it by the sisterhood for being misogynists (and creepily implying they are making their brothers and cousins horny), they then shame the men for wanting younger, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:33 PM
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Here let me balance things out. He cocked cockily up the stairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:43 PM
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He went from Average Adam to Alpha Adam.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:41 PM
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They are insecure and secretly desire her. They have to do that or acknowledge there is something wrong with them (which is the hard option) and acknowledge she will never be into them. They have to find ways to make her look so bad she isn't a desirable option, like sour grapes. It's the same when women shit on tall, attractive men who state they want younger women who are in shape. They call them pedophiles or misogynists for wanting women who take care of themselves. It's all insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 11:39 PM
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I feel like a lot of younger, ideological, inexperienced people or people who haven't experienced some hardship believe that love can carry a relationship. This is despite evidence that losing a job, losing a child, having mental health issues or substance abuse can end relationships. Love as a feeling cannot compensate for those things. Love as an action, as a choice, can. Love is easy when you have the tingles and want to fuck your partner all day. It is hard - and more likely true - when time…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:50 PM
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The OKCupid study that gave us the "80% of men on there are below average" stat also revealed racial preferences among women. Women almost universally saw white men as more attractive than other races. The only women who differed were black women who desired black men. They were the closest thing to a second place. The least desirable were Asian men. While men tended to like a wider variety of women the most desirable were Asian women. The least desirable were black women. https://www.npr.org/se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 10:18 PM
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It also implies that even average women deserve better than average men. Women don't even have a moral leg to stand on here when abusers, thugs, drug dealers and violent men get laid way more than average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:40 PM
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Remember, he needs to be taller than her in heels.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:36 PM
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What “traditional values” do modern men adhere to exactly ? In Asian countries it is especially important for a man to have a good degree, preferably from ab Ivy league university, a high paying job, a house and ideally a car to be seen as marriage material. In order to do so he has to overcome incredibly high housing costs as his first step. If he is lucky his Asian wife understands and will actively contribute by also working herself to death for a corporation to afford the high living costs. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 11:08 PM
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So he picked some long dead woman who was severely mentally ill, labelled her as a feminist and is attributing the GLOBAL trend of falling birth rates to her. Is it obvious now how stupid this is I didn't label her a feminist. She was always recognised as a radical feminist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shulamith_Firestone How can you not know who the influencers in your movement are? I swear the Reddit casual feminists don't even know what they are supporting. I was not attributing falling g…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:55 PM
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Don't expect logical thinking from bitter misandrist females.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:39 PM
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You could flip the gender script on the US and see the consequences of feminism on men and see that it hasn't done better. There is rampant miaandry in the media, academia and among women in the US. There are light punishments for convicted female rapists and false accusations against men can destroy their lives. Blackmail porn is still a problem regardless of feminist interference. Women scam men online by pretending to be interested in them, then threaten to release videos and nudes to their f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:37 PM
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Would you be okay with your committed partner seeing their relationship and sex with you in the same way they see casual sex with people they barely know?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 09:24 PM
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As if the slave labour of men doesn't exist. There is ongoing modern day slavery of men in the Middle East. As if women who willingly choose to have families and kids should be paid for that choice.
/r/AntiFeminists16/11/22 10:41 AM
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Feminist activist Shulamite Firestone called the family structure a form of economic and political oppression. She wanted an end to the family unit as many feminists did. She battled schizophrenia for decades yet some feminists still look up to her radical ideals including artificial wombs. She died alone, possibly of starvation, at 67. Her body was undiscovered for days. Standing up for yourself is one thing. Sabotaging your family, community and culture for a movement made by white women for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 11:39 PM
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I read an interesting take that to control men for labour you get the women to control them with sex. This is why the media is full of sex but men are getting less of it. If you can convince women they are entitled to more before they offer sex it raises the bar for men who must now work even harder for it. This increases productivity especially as women's nature is hypergamous meaning they desire men who are superior to them, especially in earnings. So the woman who is your equal in every possi…
/r/AntiFeminists15/11/22 10:34 AM
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Then can we stop the moral posturing? Either we enforce equality here or we accept there are older guys fucking barely legal teens and women hoeing around before divorce raping their husbands. Then can we also accept that if men simped less, committed less and used prostitutes more they could get a bit more power back? And can we accept that women control the SMP to such an extent that they could get greater commitment from men if they too changed their behaviour? Because if we can stop all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:42 AM
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More men should wear revealing clothes to mock the double standards.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 11:38 PM
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Women also have more rape fantasies than men. Like way more. They project their own disgusting fantasies on men and use it to get attention.
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 11:36 PM
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It's still crossing a boundary. He doesn't know until she accepts it if she will be okay with it. Unless she says beforehand "please kiss me now" he is crossing a boundary and taking a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:59 PM
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He would be called a misogynist body shamer in a heartbeat One guy using an app called PlentyOfFish stated he wanted a woman who wasn't fat because he was in good shape too. His profile got slammed on social media. https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1914962/man-causes-outrage-with-brutal-message-explaining-why-he-doesnt-date-women-who-are-over-30-and-overweight/ I know that is a tabloid but mainstream media outlet is shitting on women in the same way nor are they putting their faces in it. We also …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:57 PM
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In their minds women working for or pleasing men is wrong. But men working for or pleasing women is right. Men having access to visual stimulation that appeals to their sexuality is wrong but her porn use in the form of novels like 50 Shades of Gray (a bestseller despite how poorly written and rapey it was) is right. They are attempting to position female sexuality as morally superior. And that men need to change for women's benefit because their suffering is somehow worse than men's, even thoug…
/r/AntiFeminists14/11/22 09:49 PM
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So the guy doesn't leave. If he realised just how little she wanted it he may leave. A woman is okay with a sexless commitment if she continues to benefit from his provision and protection. If it gets bad they can let him have a little sex to maintain things and keep him quiet. Very few men actually marry their sexual equal. They mostly marry a woman with the mindset and temperament of a girl, who wants a daddy husband to take care of her so she can get the lifestyle she wants. A man who does th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:58 PM
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I saw a study that couples in an LTR who don't cohabitate tend to have more sex. Comfort kills passion and desire in women. Men spend their lives avoiding long term commitment for as long as they can because of how serious it is. So when they commit they are in it for the long haul. Women hop in and out of commitments more frequently, called serial monogamy. They sometimes have a string of short term relationships without much LTR experience and then wonder why their marriages fail. They don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:44 PM
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The women get deadbedroomed because they get obese. The men get deadbedroomed because women just don't enjoy sex as much as men. Bettina Arndt wrote a book about this. She asked couples to keep sex diaries and write down their approaches, sex, rejections and motivations. While women wrote their men off as pests the men wondered if their wives still loved them. Women don't care enough about men's needs to take it seriously and will find excuses not to get intimate. But they still expect his finan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:38 PM
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Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:33 PM
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Gay dudes have poop to deal with and they are still willing to take it in the ass. Or they give oral when they aren't in the mood for a colon cleanse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:32 PM
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People seem to forget that lesbian sex goes on fooooreeeever. It's orgasm after orgasm and it completely knackers you out. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! So they do it once then wait a couple months? Lesbian bed death cannot be explained by long sex sessions. These women stop fucking for weeks or months at a time. They meet today, tomorrow they have moved in together, by day three the sex is dead and by day 4 they want a divorce. This is after all the higher rates of domestic violence. They beat each…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:28 PM
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Feminist rhetoric about deconstructing masculinity. Why deconstruct masculinity but not start with femininity? Feminist rhetoric about how all men should be held accountable for the poor behaviour of a few. This includes insinuating that "boys will be boys" means allowing men to rape. The actual rape culture we have excuses women, not men, when they rape. On that note, "teach boys not to rape". Young men have to go to consent classes when they go to university, which shames them and holds them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 10:57 PM
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Unfortunately women's dating preferences are far more shallow. What you are describing is a microcosm on PPD. In public and mainstream social media, and even on dating sites, it's acceptable for a woman to say she wants a tall, wealthy, attractive man and get support for it. When men say they want thinner and younger women they get called body shaming pedophiles. Women can have whatever preferences they want. Doesn't mean they can get them. Men generally don't have as many ridiculous requirement…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:57 PM
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They are rare and are taken. How would they count? If a red pilled guy beds one then she isn't a good person because she cheats. If she doesn't cheat, is a wonderful person, is attractive and is single, she either has ridiculous standards or is choosing not to date. A red pilled guy might get sex from her but based upon OP selecting only good traits (to the point of a flat character) she is supposedly a good LTR prospect. Casual sex would disqualify her. If he is lucky she may want to date him a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 12:38 PM
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Egalitarianism offers the same without a lot of the anti male rhetoric, policies and laws. Feminists created the Duluth model that means a man must be removed from the home during a domestic violence case. Imagine a man's wife attacks him and he calls the cops. He gets put in cuffs and taken away. They also came up with the false one-in-four/five rape stat that changed policies at universities. That led to men being expelled without due process on an accusation alone. As a result universities ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 11:28 AM
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In South Africa, mixed race (coloured) moms regularly tell their children to marry people with fair skin and straight hair. It is the legacy of Apartheid. Back in the day (half a century ago) if you had light skin and straight hair you could be classified as white and live a better life than coloured (mixed race) people, black people, or Asian people. Black people were on the bottom rung. They were meant to do all the menial labour while white people would become managers. A way out was for colo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 03:03 AM
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While the advice is solid, the impact of sexlessness is a broader issue. People are not meeting and creating families and communities. It can lead to a cultural collapse. Anthropologist JD Unwin wrote about this in Sex and Culture. A culture that doesn't control sexuality and is sexually liberal eventually collapses. He studied something like 10 000 of them. So we need to have an honest conversation about what we owe each other for the benefit of the society we live in. Women complained about no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:06 AM
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Slow your roll tide there, buddy. If family doesn't care if you are having a good time or not, who will?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 01:20 PM
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What you get is an overrepresentation of late 20s/early 30s men wanting to sow their oats while similar aged women are frustrated that the men around them aren't very serious about dating. Men react to the market because women have so much control. Women who are frustrated at 30 that the men won't settle down are feeling what men in their early 20s felt. If they want to fix this then women need to date seriously while younger and insist on commitment before sex. There are enough slutty women aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 11:38 PM
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"Anycock'lldo!"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 10:54 PM
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She is actually funny. The self deprecating humour and hints of awareness are there. She seems aware of what's happening with women realising that they aren't in their prime in their 30s and must compromise. Still picky with a long list of requirements she isn't ready to completely let go of though. The successful yet chronically single women in their 30s are in an awkward position of their own making. At least someone is smart enough to use it as comedy material because it can indirectly raise …
/r/MensRights08/11/22 03:23 PM
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You are avoiding the question. What are the chances this could happen to someone, realistically speaking? Because if you are suggesting cheating is a way to get what you want without risk because you fear your abusive partner, all it says is that you make poor choices, especially in who you commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 12:06 PM
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In its rawest form it is predatory. A successful man who is smart will do his utmost to avoid them. Henry Cavill at 39 doesn't even let his 18 year old girlfriend know about his personal life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 05:09 AM
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Can you convince women of this then? Because whenever men even suggest women need to change for men's benefit (despite women demanding and getting men to do the same) women say no. Do you believe men and women owe each other something that either party is obligated to adhere to? Because the cultural narrative at present is that women don't owe men anything, including decency, but men owe women more than they can repay. And finally, what value does a thousand mile journey have to the people who s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 11:53 PM
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The main reason so many men are bitter is because they want to love and be loved, but cannot have that. They feel women are locking them out of a fun, enjoyable experience that everyone should have in their lives. The anger you see comes from a deep sadness. They were lied to. Women treated them like dirt when they were nice. Assholes got laid well before they did. Every one of those red pillers would give their left nut to live the bluepill fantasy. But they got blamed for shit they could not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 01:12 PM
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How is a woman's perceived fear a man's problem though? Women aren't going to do right by men by, say, lowering their standards or treating them nicer. What exactly are men supposed to do when women fear them? Furthermore, women and bluepillers are quick to point out that women are not a monolith. Otherwise it is fair to hold all women responsible for the poor behaviour of a few. If men are expected to modify their behaviour because women are more neurotic, then should women not modify theirs fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/22 10:08 AM
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Women know what they want. They just lie about it to not seem shallow. Men get told the lies and are convinced by moms, aunts, teachers and female friends that women want a nice, respectful guy who won't pressure them for sex. He needs to have good manners and be generous (buy flower, pay for dates, buy gifts etc). He needs to be honest and a hard worker. This man has virtue. Women tell him this so he doesn't end up like their father, Chad, who she fell in love with but who pumped and dumped her…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 11:32 PM
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I took on some RP principles. Eventually landed more than a few dates. Met my wife. Got better paying work. But I wouldn't have gotten this far without taking pussy off the pedestal and working on myself. Losing weight, putting on muscle and having a DGAF attitude work way better than trying to be principled or virtuous. Women don't get turned on by nice. Almost all men can attest to getting more interest from women the less they cared but getting rejected the nicer they were. Only really hot gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 12:35 PM
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The small house, the car...they cost way more today relatively speaking compared to then. If minimum wage actually kept up with inflation (and increased productivity) it would be about $21/$22 today. That would mean like $43000 a year for a full time minimum wage worker. https://themreport.com/daily-dose/02-02-2021/pressing-housing-matters-in-the-1960s-and-today the median house of 1960 would cost just $104,619 in 2020 dollars, far below the actual cost of $240,500, meaning housing costs have in…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:38 AM
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You have to have a discussion about this. Be willing to leave if it is a big enough deal. Yes, there are people who fear the consequences of leaving. Yes, there are women who hold their families for ransom by threatening to deny him his kids, forcing him to choose between sex and his family. Yes there are shitty people out there who do this. But you should know who you are making a commitment to before you marry them. You should have a discussion about what to do when sex is off the table. Also,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 04:10 PM
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Or is it another case of a law specifically targeting men? And would it still be considered stealthing if a woman lied about being on a contraceptive? Keep in mind it is still perfectly legal for a woman to get child support because she raped someone and got pregnant, including if she raped a minor. There needs to be equally harsh punishment for this.
/r/AntiFeminists05/11/22 01:33 PM
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They are not saying that. They are saying that they acknowledge men stopping working would be a problem for them. I am of the opinion that men should be able to choose who their labour benefits. So if they don't want to work dangerous or very demanding jobs they shouldn't do them. But when women or men start to realise the cost of men checking out we should be encouraging this. They need to spread the message that shitting on men is a bad idea and removing incentives for their inclusion in socie…
/r/MensRights03/11/22 10:19 AM
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You gotta love all the comments where women say it isn't about the money or they would not date a man who thinks this way. As if a guy who is unambitious, earns less and doesn't want to work more, wants to do more chores and would rather be a house husband relying on her pay cheque is even remotely attractive for marriage. Even in the most equal countries, run by feminists, where women have loads of choices, they still work less and work fewer dangerous jobs than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:13 AM
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after 2000 years of house chores as backpay, lets talk After thousands of years of manual labour to build society, hunting dangerous animals, braving the ocean for exploration, working dangerous and physically demanding jobs, and dying in wars to defend your home... let's talk about equality. I doubt any woman would gladly give up domestic duty to take up arms or face a home invader. Even in the most equal countries that are run by feminist women, women work less than men do. Go look at the gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 10:09 AM
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That's true. But I think the point is about who has a problem with it and whose responsibility is it to fix it. OP is saying that men generally have no excuse. They are scrutinised far more harshly than women. They are called lazy or entitled a lot and they get blamed for their poor sex lives when it cannot exist without a partner's yes. Women are almost never criticised to the same extent. No man could call her lazy, fat or entitled and say those are the reasons sex isn't happening. Imagine a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 04:19 AM
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The problem that OP highlighted was about the honeymoon stage of the relationship. She is DTF in the first year or two and after that sex fades. LTRs or long lasting marriages do see a decline in sex over time. In order to figure this out, men and women would need to date for 2 years or more just to get a proper handle on who has more brake or accelerator energy. Or women would have to be really self aware and honest, then tell their new partners sex is going to fizzle out after a year or so. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 11:25 PM
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The Just World Fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:39 PM
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But women find hair and cloth attractive in the way that men find women attractive. Do women write poetry about men's hair? Do they collect pictures of beautiful men with their hair flowing in the breeze? Do they look at male hair and have to rub one out? Clothes are not an inherent physical trait. They can be changed and manipulated easily. Women collect pictures of beautiful clothes, watch runway shows, including popular brands they aren't really a fan off, write articles and commentary pieces…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:10 AM
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Clothes and hairstyle are one thing. But women generally don't even find male bodies as intoxicatingly attractive as men do women's bodies. Men have traditionally practically worshipped women's inherent beauty, not just how they dress themselves up. Women's curves, breasts, hips, thighs, ass...even feet get men going. Not to mention facial symmetry, smiles, eyes. Men have dedicated art and poetry to the female form and femininity. Would women collect pictures of beautiful men, watch porn (includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 11:05 PM
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Why are you even in a relationship if this happens? Why do you not care enough about your partner's needs to find a way forward? (Why do you expect them to care about your issues if you cannot care for theirs?). Why can you not have an honest discussion about this and say "let's start with a massage. How about we do this that I like them we do that, which you like?"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:56 PM
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It's honorable not to lie. But do you think the majority of people who are sexually successful have never used it as a means to get a relationship or have sex? Do you think women would give up lying about their past sexual encounters, be more honest when taking pictures or use less make up, and refuse implants and other cosmetic surgery to lead the charge of honesty?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:42 PM
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Is this a thing? Yes. Just like death grip, a woman can get so used to her vibrator that when she has regular sex she may find orgasming difficult. Just like death grip, she needs to pay off the chronic masturbation to enjoy sex at a regular sensitivity again. It’s not because we’re “bad at sex” or “not communicating” it’s because ejaculation js stupidly straightforward by comparison. I’d change it if I could but I can’t. My point was that even when women are bad at sex they never get shamed lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:33 AM
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Intentional ambiguity with ill intent is the same as blatant lying, just with an additional dusting of smarmy cowardice. Shaming language aside, women manipulate and lie to men all the time. When men call them out on it, the men get blamed for being dumb enough to fall for the ruse. So what if he fucks a woman too dumb to know what's actually happening? Women lead men on and use sex as a tool all the time. Unless women in general can agree to be ethical when they seek out relationships, it is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:34 PM
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For some reason, if you tell a date you're looking for a relationship she automatically thinks you want one with her. I mean, dates do eventually lead to relationships so of course she is going to think she is a candidate. Why else would you be dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 10:25 PM
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Morbidly obese women have higher N counts than average men. He may find some luck there but it seems like there are enough men offering these women some dick for them to say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 09:29 PM
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I disagree about porn. To me it's obvious it's addictive and such addiction can cause problems. Still, porn industry brings in a lot of money so I do not see that stopping for a while. Then you would have to advocate for the abolition of all addictive substances. Porn, marijuana, alcohol, social media such as Instagram, video games, sugar and anything close to gambling. You could even get addicted to exercise, water or food. Most people are able to regulate their consumption of many of these but…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:51 AM
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The replication crisis should give you a clue. Most anti porn advocates are sex negative conservatives and misandrist feminists who hate male sexuality. They are two sides of the same coin. They label even moderate porn use as an addiction because they are insecure about men finding slender, younger and more sexually available women attractive. https://time.com/107228/women-misogyny-twitter-study-demos/ Depending on the source, they say women slut shame as much as men or slightly more (the artic…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 04:42 AM
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The issue is that the majority of men don't take women down and do what they want with them. But women treat all men this way. It would be the equivalent of listening to a gangster, who happens to be black, saying he has robbed people, then everyone starts clutching their purses tighter around all black people. At some point you have to acknowledge that you can take it too far. There are women who freak out when they are sharing public space with men, or who want men to change seats on planes to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 09:47 AM
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They are not advocating for an exchange. They are saying women cannot love men the way men love women. They are saying women love opportunistically while men love from a position of principle or virtue. They are advocating that men place themselves first but that is a different matter. The reason I said you could turn it around is because if your claim is that men cannot love women because they lie to them to get sex, then women lying about love and sexual interest to gain favour, resources and …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 04:05 PM
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Women are capable of love. But, broadly speaking, when men love women they do so with the same care and protection that women love children. A woman in love will show loyalty and respect. She will desire sex with her partner and she will enjoy it. Women are just not as easy to please as men so they continue to place conditions on love which men don't place. For example, women tend to need more foreplay before sex to enjoy it more whereas men are generally not asking for a 10 minute back rub foll…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:44 PM
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You can turn that argument around. You can confirm OP's assertion that women lie to men and hurt them to get money or even commitment from them. Such as paternity fraud, using sex to control or manipulate their partner or when they exchange sex for something else other than sex or love.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 11:26 PM
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In my 30s as well, why? I am sure there are wonderful people in their 30s. But they have a tough market to deal with at that point. Go read the r/datingoverthirty sub for some stories about what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:48 PM
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Marrying at 30, you are still okay. Waiting until 30 to find someone is risky because half the eligible market is married already. If you get married at 30 it means you found someone and have been dating at least a year or two so you were in a LTR. But waiting until you are 30 to find a life partner means you will be making things difficult for yourself. There is also the argument to be made that if you are a catch, someone would have snagged you by then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:46 PM
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You are doing exactly what OP says women do. You are an exception, claim women in general (or enough) don't care, but shorter men in general struggle to date. This is exactly how the misinformation gains traction. You don't even provide stronger evidence to back up the claim that height does not matter. Sure, there will be women who have a preference, but saying that guys who are shorter than 6 feet will struggle with dating is bs. https://twitter.com/persiancapital/status/1501202280120729603?la…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 09:39 PM
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The implication is that she could have found someone who fit both bills in her 20s when there were more suitors on the market. When you turn 30 half of your eligible peers are probably already married. The ones who are still single are either undesirable or are choosing to stay single, which isn't great if you want a partner. A lot of men discover they are in more demand at 30 and take advantage of this to be more picky or have more easily available sex. For women this does not bode well. The me…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:50 PM
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I know some women who are chronically single in their 30s. A couple are overweight or obese. Some just cannot find someone who meets their expectations. I knew one who, on the surface, didn't seem to have much wrong with her. She was in good shape, was not bad looking and should have been up to her ass in offers from men. Yet she fits the cats and wine stereotype. She even calls her cats her babies. She had a LTR in her 20s then it ended around 30. She has been single for a couple years but it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 09:45 PM
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Yeah but most women are at least somewhat attractive to most men. Attractive people in general get more attention. The difference is the threshold for attention. For a man, a chubby average girl dressing up a bit is still going to get his attention as well as a prettier, more slender woman. For a woman, you gotta be a tall male model CEO surgeon to get the same level of attention from her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 01:20 AM
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There were also some high quality posts. I remember a red pill leaning one that is among the top posts of all time tossing loads of evidence at bluepillers who denied some of the assertions from RP. That and similar ones pretty much ended the bluepill. BP also did themselves no favours by making claims then hiding behind the mockery defence. Unfortunately that meant no one could take them seriously. Some BPers even said that this made it really tough to defend their position and they couldn't co…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 09:23 AM
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You had me going for the first part, but the second half kind of threw me. What...what implication? (I love that show)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:58 PM
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How do you select for women who ask men out? You need to be the active person selecting... that's initiating. Do you always just hang around them waiting for a date? Drop loads of hints like women do?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:55 PM
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Simple. Drop dollars on a date you don't expect to go anywhere. Then you deserve not getting rejected XD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:54 PM
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As long as she takes the first turn that makes sense. Would still weed out the guys who don't like women having money. Otherwise if her turn is always the second date she can claim to "equally" take turns but have like a million first dates. She would never pay for a date under those conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:52 PM
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The problem is that even average women do not find average men hot. But an average man will find an average woman attractive. Women are so selective that even good looking men get overlooked and rejected far more than good looking women. There is also something to be said about men learning that their virtues and utility are most important while women learn their beauty is most important. Women do not ask for male beauty nor do they worship it nearly as much as men worship women's beauty. Men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 11:46 PM
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Would this include equal in height, physical body strength and willingness to investigate a potential home invasion in the middle of the night?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 03:42 PM
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Maybe the men being inadequate or just awful is why women are initiating divorces? Why are these women willingly marrying inadequate or awful men? We cannot say that all of them started off as good partners then changed within a few years. So unless these women are terrible at learning about the people they are making major commitments to (which is a huge character flaw as well), they are perhaps as inadequate and awful as their partners. The difference is that when men commit they take the comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:10 PM
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They end it before it gets to marriage. They also don't get into relationships before they get too serious. Those are very different from initiating divorce. Once men decide to commit they tend to stay that way. They take their commitments more seriously than women do or else gay men would be leading the divorce rate. If, however, they aren't interested in marriage they are going to bang as many dudes as they can for as long as they can...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 02:03 PM
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I once saw a post on an angry women/feminist sub (probably twox) where the women actually complained that their work experience doesn't count for shit in making them more attractive for men. This is projection. Women want men with good resumés. Men just want women to take care of themselves and be kind. This is incidentally how men project. They think that being kind and nice to women will make them more attractive and it doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:52 PM
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But yeah, I sometimes just think of it as impressive vs unimpressive. The context is important here. A man has to work hard to get sex because women are so selective. So when women are critical or insulting of men and their sexuality (or lack of sexual success) they are indirectly stating he could not meet women's high standards. He is not worthy. A man who is worthy is far more impressive, as you say. The other aspect is when women complain men don't want to commit to sluts. Or "why should the …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:48 PM
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The have the write stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:39 PM
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The point is that they aren't dating for long term anyway. Red pill guys aren't looking to marry. Unless they find a unicorn among women who is attractive and not full of shit, they are just going to keep leading them on for as long as the woman will allow it. So why care if it doesn't work long term? They aren't going to get married anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:55 PM
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Do the homie Do the homie Do the homie Do the homie
/r/MensRights18/10/22 12:03 PM
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On the one hand I get what you are saying. If he puts in effort at least it's a sign he might want more than just sex. However, on the other hand, he might be a bit bolder than other desperate men and lie just to get laid. I think what OP is saying is that there is a greater chance for success if women approach because men are not seeing the reward as worth the risk, or that the risk is really great. He hits on her, she cries sexual harassment and shames him, his social life takes a hit as well …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 10:06 PM
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They will just call the guy gay for rejecting them like they always do.
/r/MensRights16/10/22 03:40 PM
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The women say it's because the paperwork and admin falls on them so they usually will do the filing. Anyone have a counter to this?
/r/MensRights16/10/22 09:55 AM
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But they do pay for it. They always pay. Whether it is prostitution or paying for dates, gifts, engagement rings or supporting wives in their marriages, women have always put a price on sex. And what is wrong with the validation you receive from being accepted by someone you feel attracted to? Or are people supposed to fuck their partners with zero emotional attachment to the fact that they are accepted, desired and loved by someone they feel the same way about?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 01:03 PM
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But remove those women altogether and meeting your friends or reading a book isn't enough. If you or anyone were guaranteed the wealth, success, sex and any other desires in life, of course they wouldn't be a big deal. Until they vanish.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:45 PM
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Yeah but if the roles were flipped, women wouldn't exactly enjoy having a higher, more active sex drive that they could almost never take for a spin, so to speak. They already cannot keep their hands off a stripper or performer. They would be downright miserable to be (sex) starved in a land where hamburgers are aplenty, but the price placed on one is discouragingly high. At least having the attention gives you an opportunity to filter through what's available. Most women end up with partners at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 10:43 PM
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So screw his bodily autonomy if he goes to jail for failure to pay (or being too poor to pay) for kids he didn't want? Screw his health if his wages are garnished and he must live in his car and skip meals? This still comes down to women having more power here to abuse this. What "makes sense" about a woman being able to force someone into parenthood, including through rape (and raping a minor)? Why should her body and health choices impact someone else? She can still choose to be a mom beyond s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 09:53 PM
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Let the racist white women complain about men opting for Asian women. Let them be as bitter as they want. Go sleep with a younger, more slender, nicer woman and smile whenever a miserable old cunt starts hurling insults due to her insecurities. They cannot tell you what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:35 PM
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Of course. But if I am a strong, independent woman why would I need someone else to finance my personal choice? And if a man is expected to be careful by using a condom why shouldn't I protect myself with birth control? Or at least make sure I have sex in a committed relationship where we have discussed the possibility of kids. Or only have sex if he is using a condom. Because if birth control fails, if I were a woman I could at least get an abortion. Most of them happen early on that you take s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:57 PM
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The problem here is the opportunity for abuse. A woman has so much power here she can even rape a man or a minor, sue for child support and win. What this means is that she can lie about birth control or even take advantage of her partner in an inebriated state. If this is how little power they would have in this situation I doubt anyone would choose to have fewer choices. Condoms can break and vasectomies are not perfect. You should check in every three years to see if the vasectomy is still go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 09:41 PM
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The female imperative is to remove as much responsibility from women and place the burden of being a better human being in the hands of men. Men must adhere to higher standards of morality and conduct than women or else they are considered a problem to society. There was a post on PPD years ago where someone did an experiment on an advice sub. They asked, as an older woman, what they could do to have more sex with younger men. They received nothing but support. They later asked the same question…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:28 PM
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It's cheaper to go to South East Asia and pick up a wife there. Norwegian men love Vietnamese and Thai women so much the Norwegian women were panicking and tried to get laws in place to stop the men from bringing them back under the guise of protecting them from sex trafficking. Heaven forbid a man doesn't want a fat, bossy, entitled, difficult to please feminist, single mom for a wife!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:13 AM
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but this post is oozing with rage and hatred and disgust Disgust for sure. Rage and hatred? I am not calling for the extermination of these women. you need to calm down and not get so upset. You can't tell me what to do! I will have you know my doctor advised me to get a little upset and to not stay calm whenever I want. Calling this person a bitch is so over the top and excessive I will let the imaginary lady know you defended her honor. what did she do to you? She didn't do the imaginary dishe…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 10:08 AM
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30+ year old overweight single mom. "my kids come first!" Is broke and/or in severe debt. past relationships were all "abusive". tired of the games. is a "straight shooter" i.e. opinionated has a picture of her ass or tits hanging out but is "not looking for hookups" "if you can't handle me at my worst...." conservative and/or religious/born again Christian is also an ardent feminist when she feels like it. What she wants in a man: someone with a good job (money and status) someone who doesn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:07 PM
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That poor kid is going to grow up hating himself. If he is lucky they will realise what they are doing to him and maybe rethink their misandry. Imagine a gay couple complaining they didn't get a boy. There would be far more anger.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 02:06 PM
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You know, I thought the red pill guys were joking when they said this shit was coming...
/r/MensRights08/10/22 03:05 PM
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If RP men aren't worried about relationships then why are they worried about dating sluts??? He is getting what he wants without offering the commitment needed for a LTR to happen. He is doing this because he doesn't feel committing to sluts is a good idea but he still wants sex. They are not dating for marriage in mind. This is the core issue I find with RP is that these guys actually are looking for relationships, they're just acting like they're not. I think what you are seeing is a deep, pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:34 AM
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This has got to do with dynamics between men and women. Women generally are the ones who decide sex happens. Men are the ones who generally approach women for sex. Men initiate and escalate. Women say yay or nay. If he doesn't respect her consent it is a crime. How often do women seek sex in the same way? Not often. They are usually in the position of choosing while men have to make the approach (and are often rejected). It isn't about self control in this instance but rather about a mating ritu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 12:18 AM
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I've seen SO many guys here claim that if a woman doesn't sleep with you immediately, then she's not truly attracted to you, regardless of their own n count. That's because of the environment everyone operates in now. If it was a conservative one where women waited until marriage to have sex, men would probably not be saying that if she isn't fucking immediately she isn't into you. The context is important. The reason men don't want to wait is because women don't want to. Women are the gatekeepe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:13 PM
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It comes out eventually. Someone with a slutty past has friends that may let slip their history, past partners may enter the picture, her family may out her in one way or another. They may do this in all innocence, such as saying she was a bit of a wild child or a party animal and she went to trance parties. It may be less innocent such as ex boyfriends still hanging around her social media or who keep in touch. If he is lucky the information comes out sooner rather than later and he can decide …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 04:03 PM
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Also add to this that, as he gets older, he should be very careful around female teachers. Women can rape men and minors, get pregnant then sue for child support and win! Imagine your son being thousands in debt by the time he is 18, risking jail time for failure to pay and having a child he is in no way ready for. This would cause a lot of emotional turmoil and set him back decades. They will not be able to cope well with this at all. We are very wary of male teachers and that their students ca…
/r/MensRights06/10/22 04:42 AM
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it’s men that don’t want to align with women.. Bullshit. There are far more male feminists than female men's rights activists. Men have not just been in your corner by supporting your choices they removed any expectations of gender roles. They white knight for you and they die protecting you. Men have been aligning with women to the point of self harm. Women don't care enough about men to align themselves with their issues. And when they do, they want it through a female friendly, feminist lens …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:03 AM
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Women love to remind men they are not a monolith but men are always held accountable for the poor behaviour of other men. I am not my brother's keeper. If he is a dick and she cannot figure out who the dicks are versus the nice ones then that is on them. It is not my responsibility to step in and stop another man like the Gillette ad. We never see women stepping in to spare men from abusive or manipulative women. Women go so far as to hold the men of today accountable for the terrible actions of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:49 AM
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If you can get the guy you want and he is a minority of the eligible population then you are okay. But let's have a look at the numbers, shall we? Half of the eligible population is married come 30. The US has a record number of single people in relative and absolute terms. Go look it up. Most of those single people do desire marriage or a LTR. They still hold out for the dream. Now go look at the height requirements ladies set as a filter on Bumble, the laundry list of requirements some women p…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:21 PM
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Go ahead and date Chad if you can get him. I didn't say women should or shouldn't do it. All I am saying is if you get pumped and dumped or ignored by the people you find attractive...maybe you are aiming a little high. How is that striking such a nerve?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:07 PM
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Because they love their strawman here. I haven't seen a guy here shaming women for not lowering their standards. It would mean a guy saying "ladies you should date uglier men. You should be ashamed of yourself for wanting Chad." Or something like that. Instead, men point out that women have ridiculous standards and when they complain they cannot find decent men (in the top 10%) some men are going to point out their poor logic. There are a lot of single moms in their 30s on dating apps and the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:01 PM
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You can burn that strawman to keep you warm if you need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:46 PM
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They seem to conflate the reality with shame. This is why some RP men say consequences are like oppression to women and feels before reals. No one is shaming women for not lowering their standards. They are pointing out women's ridiculous expectations and the consequences it has on them and the SMP. If they feel any shame (which is doubtful considering a woman will almost always believe she deserves better than what she can realistically get) it's because they are getting caught out. Not because…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:36 PM
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If the housework is stopping you from having sex then you are the problem. Hire a cleaner. You are both working so you can afford the expense if it means you can have intimacy with your partner. As my wife put it "Don't let some dirty dishes be what destroys your relationship." It's too easy for women to make excuses for not taking responsibility for the sex lives. They have double standards in their relationships. They expect a man to be superior to them in height, earnings and status. They exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:01 AM
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Comfort is antithesis to desire. Women go off sex far easier than men do in relationships, in general. Sex therapist Bettina Arndt asked 98 couples to maintain sex diaries in 2009. She found that while it was easy for women to simply label his behaviour as being sex obsessed, men who were not getting sex were still very much in love with their wives. They wanted to feel desired and often questioned if their wives still loved them. Among the issues is a lack of communication and responsibility ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:08 AM
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But how would women react to men saying they prefer DDs? Even if a dude could not tell the difference between a C cup or D cup, wouldn't they be perceived as shallow for staying this preference? https://www.ladbible.com/now/weird-theres-been-a-big-survey-on-breast-sizes-and-the-results-are-in-20170304 According to that survey C cup was actually preferred overall so I guess the breast size is not as much of an issue considering so few women have breasts larger than a D cup (iirc less than 1%). Yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 11:52 PM
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None of you seem to expose yourselves to gay spaces I tried once. But the gay guys kept trying to expose themselves too. Snicker In all seriousness they do tend to be happier overall IF they exist in a liberal or more open society. I know a few gay Americans and Africans and they seemed quite happy and even teased their straight friends because of their complaints about women. They would tell the straight men that they were very glad they were not straight and that a prostate orgasm was some nex…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 10:07 PM
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It's not like women don't get mad when men have preferences. A woman can want a tall, wealthy, good looking man, publicly declare it and get support (Yasss queen!). And dare a man tell her she is being unrealistic... A man says he wants a woman who is slender and younger and he will get crucified. Those are the double standards. Women may have preferences but men's are somehow oppressive to women. It's only on this sub that women have selective amnesia regarding this. Women in England once compl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 01:06 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:56 PM
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So we are going to overlook history where queen's were more likely to send men to their deaths than kings. Or whenever white women felt like it they could accuse black men of sexual harassment and rape like Emmet Till. But you have changed goalposts. This was about selfishness, not oppression. Women could be selfish by being lazy, divorcing their partners and taking half of everything or the houses they worked for. They can be selfish by sending their partners off to face danger instead of woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:35 PM
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It is favoritism if others are not offered the same. Women see nice treatment (that they think men get, but men don't) as equality. In reality it is a massive privilege to, say, get lesser sentencing for the same crimes and have media and academia at your service whenever women struggle at something. Trans men are usually aghast at the actual treatment they receive from society because the favoritism is gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 11:07 PM
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Lots of women don't care what men want or feel and never have. They care about themselves and their needs. Proof: History and this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:59 PM
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You would think religious folks would be more cognisant of this fact. But here they are talking about sleeping with someone before marriage who doesn't share the same values...and they are still trying to squeeze in some sort of pro choice slant that benefits the woman first. Adoption is not a solution to this problem. It's having kids with someone you know wants them and will be there to support you and your family.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:14 AM
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I don't think this is the issue. There is hypocrisy among women with regards to this that is. Even if a woman agrees to sleep with a man who has different values to her she has the power to force him to be a dad or not. So she could say she is anti child support and won't ask him for a dime, if she later changes her mind he has no say. Many posters are saying he should have no right to see his kid after. They would then need to change the law to allow him to be able to change his mind if he want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 10:10 AM
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They view those women as selfish for not being "thankful" for what they have. No. This isn't the issue. It is that women insist men have more privilege then invalidate men's experiences. For example, there was a post here a while back where women were asked if they believed the average man could have sex just once a month with a month with a different woman. They have been ignoring the data about growing sexlessness among men and men's actual experiences here regarding loneliness, rejection and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 09:51 PM
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I’ve done more for men than all of them men on this sub combined. I am sure you have but damn if this doesn't come off as virtue signalling. You can still show misandry in your ideals despite having shown care in another way. I used to be a reporter for a paper, run by a feminist, covering a lot of feminist and leftist stories. I spoke to and gave voices to women who were victims of violence and rape. These reports helped shelters to raise funds and organisations to help the marginalized. They r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 10:44 AM
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The high number of women who write letters to violent criminals (have kids with them) and serial killers gives you a clue as to how attractive violent men are to women. What OP is perhaps touching on is that women have loads of power in the SMP. They are pursued. They are the choosers. As the choosers they must bear much of the responsibility of who they end up with. Men do have choices but they are far more limited and they respond more opportunistically to the market. It's just sad that the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/22 10:50 PM
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I think a lot of men grow up believing that pleasing women is morally right and any actions (or preferences they have) that women don't like is wrong. It takes a while for them to undo the programming. But you are essentially correct. There is no reason to seek women's validation regarding N counts. If she seems like she is a slut or you discover she had a promiscuous past, you don't have to date her. Just slut shame her and move on XD
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/22 11:30 PM
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But this is a debate sub and women come in here either asking or complaining about men having preferences. So when they say things like the past doesn't matter or they firmly believe a slut can make a decent wife, someone has to show them that - outside of opinion and preferences - there are good reasons why committing to someone with a high N count is a bad idea. Yes it is a preference but isn't backing up an argument on a debate sub with logic and facts a good thing? It could also change some …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/22 10:22 PM
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A woman doesn't love a man for being a man, not in the same way men love women for being women. A man can be kind, patient, smart and be pleasant to chat to. Those don't matter if he is short, poor, or obese. A poor, dark skinned Asian man is going to fair far worse than his female counterparts. Tall, handsome, rich, high status men are always going to be in demand. From the OKCupid study we also see men rating women on a more even distribution. This means there is a broader number of women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 11:29 AM
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Obviously no one should be telling you that you are lying. But thing is they see the filters on apps like Bumble where women can select their preferred height for a man. There is a huge chasm in preference between 5'9" (average height) and 6 feet tall, which is like 15% of the population excluding taken men or men who are much older. So many women want those men that it becomes difficult for some men to accept that women who don't want that exist. The data says women desire those men first. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 07:38 AM
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That's a societal issue that MEN need to address and solve. That's why the red pill came along. I can't get in the head of those guys, only other men understand this slavery to the little head. If only it was sex. But there are compounding factors here. In order for a man to be attractive enough to attract a partner he has to distinguish himself from the crowd. Let me give you an example. I know a young woman who has mental health issues. She is unemployed, overweight and spends her days living …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 12:07 PM
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And don't forget they deny the friendzone exists. And if it does it is his fault. They hate being held to account so much they would rather shit on the guy for "trying to get sex by pretending to be a nice friend" than own up to the fact that they benefit from stringing the guy along. The women know their guy friends desire them. They take advantage by using them for emotional support (and favours) while feeling free to fuck the hot assholes who won't commit. Women here just want to maximize the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 10:46 PM
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Communists don't even believe in Satan...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:48 AM
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They had loads of fulfillment before the male only spaces were closed, before when being a man didn't mean growing up apologizing for your existence, and when labour actually gave you more than enough to provide for a family. Go read Dr Helen Smith's Men on Strike and watch The Red Pill documentary. I am not saying we should return to the good old days of female oppression but men need purpose. They are checking out of society because women don't want them and they get blamed for all sorts of is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/22 03:46 AM
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The problem is when it gets in the way. She hints but is too cowardly to talk to the guy and so she lets the opportunity slip. There was a chance to change things by simply talking a bit more and she simply did nothing. And women generally have better luck when they approach than when men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:33 PM
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I don't think it's how much money they make so much as how many women signed up to do it. And there are more signing up every day to try to pay rent by baring more skin. The founders and creators offer a platform. No woman is forced to sign up. Yet they flood online spaces where a lot of young men gather. Twitch was supposed to be about gaming and how it's gaming with your tits out. There are minors on Reddit who will get nudes in their inboxes from OF creators. Women were pissed about random di…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:56 PM
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I don't think it's how much money they make so much as how many women signed up to do it. And there are more signing up every day to try to pay rent by baring more skin. The founders and creators offer a platform. No woman is forced to sign up. Yet they flood online spaces where a lot of young men gather. Twitch was supposed to be about gaming and how it's gaming with your tits out. There are minors on Reddit who will get nudes in their inboxes from OF creators. Women were pissed about random di…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 11:41 PM
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men allowing women in a legal sense Men allowed women to abandon their gender roles. A man who insists women be homemakers is seen as an oppressive asshole. A man cannot say he supports women wanting to work but then tells his wife her job is to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Allowing women to define what womanhood means outside of the influence of men exists beyond the legal realm. You need men in general to agree not to interfere with the process. She can be short, fat, tall, blonde,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:13 PM
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The solution is for the left to go back to its original position. It used to advocate for the voiceless and champion the cause of the marginalized. If it won the hearts and minds of men in the manosphere and called out the hypocrisy among its feminist ranks they could pull back some level of egalitarianism. It would mean telling women to not expect men to adhere to gender roles in the same way men do not expect them from women (and anyone who does gets called a sexist asshole). Most men would pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 04:01 PM
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They didn't ban it. They let states decide on the matter. But that isn't even anti-women. It is pro profit! They need more cheap labour and are very afraid of the unionising talk going on. The wealthy business owners of today need desperate, poor people tomorrow. If they can increase the chances of that happening by allowing states to cop the blame (and so wash their hands of it at the federal level) then they can ensure a more concentrated supply of poor people in some areas who can be exploite…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:23 AM
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Wow. Some introspection. This is new. Well...thank you for the awareness! Men don't want to oppress or rape anyone. You should look up the CDC stat on female on male rape. It will be eye opening to see how many women get away with it and how often men are raped by women. Women have more rape fantasies than men and I suspect some of that is projected onto men. Go ask men what they prefer (years ago someone did) and they will tell you getting a yes (consent) from a woman is like heroine. A woman's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 10:18 AM
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They want men to support them but take abuse at the same time. They claim the moral high ground but they are creating a monster. You cannot keep taking from someone in the name of justice and expect them and future generations to comply. This shit is a breeding ground for hostility and war. Then when something happens they are like "see? We told you they're bad!" If you treat someone like a criminal don't be surprised if they commit a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 09:58 AM
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Back in the day grandad could support a family of 6 on one salary without grandma needing to work. He bought a house, a car and took them on vacation. The net detriment works both ways today. A man must earn 60% above the national average to be considered marriage material: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/dating/marriage-rates-decline-reason-economically-attractive-men-jobs-income-a9098956.html What happened was women entered the job market en masse. This reduced the cost of labour and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:41 PM
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It’s not that men have it much tougher to find love Skipping dinner because you don’t like any of your options feels better than skipping dinner because you can’t afford any food. These two points contradict each other. Men do find it harder to find love. They are more likely to be single and sexless than women. But what you said is on point. Women who are legit femcels are not happy being single either. If men could get the sex they wanted while being single (and feel as though they have potent…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:27 PM
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Well there doesn’t seem to be any effort made to stop the men who are “winning” from sleeping around Because it doesn't work. We had religion telling everyone to keep it in their pants and women still fucked them on the sly. We ditched religion because it was oppressive and it just made an open secret even more open. Rich, powerful men always had wives, mistresses and concubines. The majority of men didn't procreate nearly as much. Then we promoted monogamy to keep the masses happy and women got…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:02 PM
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Republicans at least have a fundamental belief that work and productivity are the foundations of a functioning society. That society still needs to be able to provide for everyone to even be considered functioning. Your socialist democracies in Europe have ensured a minimum wage that allows a cashier at McDonald's to afford a place to stay. That is functional. The fact that Americans cannot afford homes in their own country means something is wrong. A society in which people of normal abilities …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:31 PM
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Americans need unions. Labour is so intricately tied to marriage and birth rates that it's a wonder people miss it. Women don't like marrying and supporting unemployed men. Back in the day grandpa could buy a house, a car and support 4 kids on his salary alone. The reason the Boomers exist is because of the economic boom. More money = more kids. People are not marrying because it financially hurts to have someone depend on your very tiny pay cheque. They aren't marrying because men don't earn en…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:13 PM
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This post is the epitome of the race to the bottom. It's similar to enjoy the decline but somehow trying to normalise social isolation. No advantage to the things that kept us going for hundreds of thousands of years? The communities that raised our children, the people who built our society...they all came from families that supported them. Humans won't go extinct because some westerners aren't fucking and making babies. The middle Easterners and Africans are going to make up for the population…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 03:00 PM
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you dont need to support anything you dont want to. but if you believe something is immoral, its your duty to defend that belief and fight for a better society The onus is almost always on men to be better than women and fix things. Women became sexually liberated thanks to men agreeing to let gender roles for them go. So why can't women do the right thing and stop being hoes when they are the gatekeepers of sex? Women did not agree to relieve men of their gender roles. The sexual liberation cam…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 11:58 AM
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Men don't have that kind of power in the SMP. Go look at what is happening on Twitch and to an extent here on Reddit. Wherever lonely young men gather, women come along selling sex. However, you are right. If men collectively refused to, say, have sex before marriage it would somewhat help. The problem is that most men are not benefiting from women being hoes. Only a small percentage of hot men are. It's not like the sexless virgin incels having less sex is going to help. And among men who have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 09:52 AM
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They aren't exploiting the women. I have lived and travelled in Asia. Those men are a meal ticket to those women. Western men are sought after for their status and greater earning potential. They are also far, far nicer than the locals. They tend not to beat their women as much as Chinese men do. They are less likely to keep mistresses aside. They aren't working all the time leaving her to figure out the home and the kids, like in Japan. They don't expect women to be homemakers. If she can secur…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:40 AM
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If women are raising the bar on the type of men they desire thanks largely to social media telling them to live their best lives, why shouldn't men raise the bar for sex? At least sexual acts are things you can explore. But growing a few inches, earning double your salary and being high status are far harder than learning how to take dick differently. And it isn't like gay men have a problem with it to the same extent. They watch porn and have loads of kinky sex. So the blame shouldn't solely li…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:31 AM
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It's insecurity. They fear their men are fantasizing about other women and so they try to tighten control over men's sexuality. If it was just a matter of they don't get why people enjoy it, then it is like saying your taste in music is terrible. It's one thing to not like hip hop. It's another to go tell hip hop lovers their music is the reason violent crime exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 03:24 AM
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There has been a marked shift in the number of single people in the US, though. In absolute and relative terms. This includes people who are unmarried but living together, and who may be raising kids together. So while dating as you have described it hasn't changed (because hot people tend to cum first), dating for everyone else has gotten progressively worse as the market has been flooded by more and more desperate singletons. Most of those single people still would want to marry if they could …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 02:55 AM
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I'm Christian BP and support waiting until marriage, so you're taking that matter up with the wrong person. Bully for you. But that doesn't change the principle. You can be an exception but it's still hypocritical to expect more than sex in return for sex if you maintain a bluepill outlook. I disagree with the OP in the sense that OP's argument comes across as invalidating the feeling of "being used" because the woman also benefited from the exchange. That feeling cannot simply be reduced to "yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 04:17 PM
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In your example the person who felt used wanted more out of the deal than just a concert. Yes, feelings were hurt. But you are not disagreeing with what OP wrote. If you expect more than sex in exchange for sex, and you have a bluepill outlook, you are being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 11:33 PM
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I am not supporting OP's overall point but men have been doing that too. OP missed a trick here. The issue is that women were allowed to leave the Ukraine when the war broke out but men were not. If they cared for equality they would have stayed with their men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/22 09:09 AM
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But where do you draw the line on "fully informed" when every feminist - from the nice ones to the shitty ones - claim to represent the real thing? Because anonymous internet feminists tell outsiders they are wrong, not each other. And if they do no one sees it nearly as much as when the manhating ones start spouting their vile - and they get support! Even if the moderate ones hate the extreme ones they almost never relent and tell men "Sorry, guys. You were right. This movement is full of misan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:33 PM
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All those teachers getting a slap on the wrist for "relationships" with their students.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:20 PM
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Yet to hear about these subsets. Alpha fucks/Beta bucks. She keeps the beta around for provision. She has kids with the alpha because he is attractive. This is how you get the absolute worst men having kids everywhere but a decent guy is struggling to find a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 11:09 PM
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What? They spend their lives chasing sex. How can it be as mundane as brushing your teeth? They have an entire movement dedicated to getting women's attention to get sex. They may not care for the woman but they do care for the sex. Many of them are heart broken romantics. They do still want a connection they just don't believe women can give them one
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 02:08 PM
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I know a woman who has no job, is overweight, lives at home (may as well be mom's basement), plays video games and smokes weed all day, and bitches that life is unfair. She has had several opportunities offered to her to study, exercise and improve her life. Her social life has gone down the drain. This woman went online to play video games and found a boyfriend by simply showing up. The guy has a Bsc degree with loads of earning potential. He struggled to get a girlfriend until he found her. Sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:54 PM
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They didn't say all women though. You said that. This is an example of a strawman. You claimed they said something they didn't. You would know from looking at the word average it doesn't mean all. It cannot mean all. It may mean majority. It might even be a subset of the overall population. But they never said all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:21 PM
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You are asking too much of your audience if you expect them to be as equally informed as you. For example, I don't doubt that there are quite a few conservatives who aren't racists that support Trump. But you aren't going to see many feminists agreeing with them on principle. Even if they claim their position is sound. The biggest problem feminism has is feminists. You aren't going to convince someone that the dictionary definition is doing it any justice when the actions of feminists tend to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/22 12:17 PM
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Men desire a wider variety of women. Women claim to be less shallow than men but the opposite is true. Yes a man will notice a hot woman who enters the room. But he isn't going to turn down the lesser attractive women if sex (or more depending on the type of person she is) is on the table. Women notice the hottest guy in the room and write off anyone else. Women claim they aren't like this. Or if they acknowledge they are, they say men would do the same but they have no idea how men's sexuality …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 03:19 PM
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Take Twitch as an example. It is meant for gamers to watch streams of games where they get to enjoy their hobby. What happened? Knowing the gamer population comprises lonely young men, OnlyFans content creators (digital prostitutes) infiltrated and sold sex while pretending to be interested in the hobby to get the attention of the viewership and profit from them. Even if no man tried to be a pimp or traffic anyone, women would still want to sell sex for easy money.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 03:01 PM
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I've worked with a lot of men and I be never met the type that would seemingly rape women. When there is a case of a woman accusing a powerful man of trying to take advantage of her, I'm likely by default to look for reports that show evidence it actually happened, unless there is none. If there are accusations from multiple women then I think the probability they are lying could be smaller if they reported it to the police, who could investigate it rather than potentially ruin the reputation (a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:56 PM
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It's very difficult to support any view of equality that doesn't make it hard for everyone. Even women would have to give something up for a truly egalitarian society.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/22 01:27 PM
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So cheesy pick up lines work? I better tell all those short guys over there their problem is a lack of cringe worthy humour...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:06 AM
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Men have given women the freedom to define what womanhood means to them by abandoning any expectations of gender roles. A woman has the freedom to be the primary earner, take the initiative, be a leader and demand what she wants. This will not ruin her chances of finding a partner and any man who tells her to be more feminine or submissive is a misogynist asshole who wants to oppress women. Women have not offered men the same room to ditch their gender roles and still be seen as attractive. Sugg…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:04 AM
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But a relationship with a Chad wasn’t the end all be all that this sub thinks it is. I don't think this is what is being argued here. Chad, in a woman's mind, is tall and athletic and good looking and wealthy AND relationship material. What a lot of men are saying is she would be okay with sleeping with him and trying to snag him if he is everything but relationship material. The guy was probably not a great boyfriend or great boyfriend material from the start but she still went after him. In ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 11:24 PM
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I think the point is that he had greater success with women in general than a guy who wasn't a racist Nazi asshole. You can be a total piece of shit, but be good looking, and women will fall over themselves for you. You can say the same for men but men tend to like a greater variety of women. There is BBW porn, for example. But for all the moral high ground women believe they have (they claim to value virtue) at the end of the day being physically attractive is your best bet at getting a date of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/22 03:35 PM
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You need to show us who the real ones and fake ones are, oh anonymous internet feminist. You may have the best intentions in the world, but "real" feminists love to defend feminism and wash their hands of the incident while it does nothing for the relationship between men and women. In other words, you actually inadvertently excuse the behaviour because it's not your problem when it isn't a feminist. But feminists are happy to make it men's problem when women are harmed by men. Do more than defe…
/r/MensRights25/08/22 08:43 AM
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And it sucks that there are people out there crying rape where none happened, making a mockery of actual rape victims.
/r/PussyPass25/08/22 03:46 AM
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It wouldn't be so bad if the consequences were not so severe. Someone's life could be ruined. Lying is a crime when others suffer loss, such as due to fraud or someone lying about who they are. Perjury is a crime. If you are going to accuse someone of a crime and it is discovered you did it with malicious intent (with zero evidence), not to actually bring a criminal to justice, you should get some sort of punishment. I am a believer in restorative justice. The girls could have been made to help …
/r/PussyPass25/08/22 03:44 AM
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cough hack hack! "Bro, you got Covid or something?" "Nah, man. It's this new Vagine virus going around..."
/r/PussyPassDenied25/08/22 03:32 AM
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A lot of men simply are their own problem. No one disputes this. A lot of men could do more to be more attractive. They could exercise, dress better and learn to flirt. This is why RP exists. But we also need to acknowledge when it isn't their fault, such as when they have been lied to. Why would women make advances to the men that never smell good, are neither self-sufficient nor self-confident, have no ambition, don't make her feel safe or cared for, supplicate out of weakness/lash out from in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:29 PM
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Why do I have to? Regardless of how I look, I'm not obligated to date or have sex with anyone I don't find attractive. I'd opt for being alone. You are welcome to be alone. But don't lie. Don't say the men are the problem when you are as well. Don't argue that men's experiences are not true when you note that even unattractive women don't want unattractive men. Admit that women are pricing themselves out of the market and it is their fault they are alone because they are unwilling to compromise.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:19 AM
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You were the one that brought leagues up now you are backing away from the idea. That's being intellectually dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:12 AM
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There was a trans man I read about who experienced this. He said that he experienced a form of emotional neglect for the first time in his life and if he had grown up like this it would have driven him insane. When he was a woman, he was able to open up more and share a deeper bond with the men and women around him. But now when he talks to women there is this aloofness about, a coldness...a barrier. And he understands because as a woman he was guarded around strange men. However, he said if he …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 12:11 AM
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You can't, sure. But you can compromise because setting the bar too high prices you out of the market. If all men wanted hot supermodels and would rather die alone than be with anyone who isn't, someone might pick up on the hypocrisy if the men were not hot themselves. They may also note that this would have dire consequences for the future of their society as no kids are being born. Or people can admit when they are being hypocrites so we don't have to take their views into account.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:56 PM
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But they don't say this. They feign concern by virtue signalling, deny that men have a problem to begin with or they make the argument that OP said that the expectation is they lower their standards. There was a poster not too long ago who asked how the SMP would change if women were honest with men. A lot of men are already realising the truth and are just not bothering to go the extra mile for women. Women don't want to lose the benefits that simps or simping offers them. They also want to pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 11:51 PM
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No. The women here are somehow the exception to the rule in the same way. Men say "these are our experiences" Women: "It didn't happen that way." Women will deny leading men on in the friendzone. They will say they would never use sex as a tool. And they have no problem with men being under 6 foot tall (as long as he is taller than her). This is despite several men saying they have been friendzoned, many of them seeing how sex is offered easily to some men while others must wait, and the most so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 11:42 PM
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A 30 year virgin is an undesirable LTR partner not because they're a virgin, but due to the reasons of their virginity. I think many men would argue that if you flipped the genders, many single women in their 30s who have had many partners but never married would be undesirable for reasons due to their situation being what it is. However, they get a lot of flak for being critical of women in these positions, such as single moms. Women also insult men by calling them virgins but calling a woman a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:23 PM
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I don't know why men think women want marriage proposals so badly. What?! Have you been living under a rock? Women generally expect the men they are dating (as in seriously dating) to propose. It's a sign of long term commitment. Go ask women who they would prefer proposes (and why it isn't them).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:06 PM
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No one is forcing her to take more or less dick. There are women in relationships who happily sleep with the same man frequently. A year long relationship with a guy isn't that terrible, is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 04:00 PM
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Let me see if I got this right: When she calls you daddy, you bust a nut?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:57 PM
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Studies suggest that women find "benevolent sexists" most attractive. It makes sense. We tend to like people who are secure enough not to fear us, and who actually like us as we are. Benevolent sexism is usually some form of chivalry based on the kind of gender norms most women claim they don't like. Men give women protection and love and get traditional gender roles from women in return. Benevolent sexists believe women are more nurturing, kind and compassionate...despite studies showing how vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:55 PM
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The biggest issue is that wives pick up too much weight over the years. Men are forgiving and do enjoy women's curves. But women are often willingly blind to their weight as they age. They blame giving birth despite many moms able to lose the weight afterwards. They blame men for being shallow and not loving them despite not taking care of themselves, but they wouldn't be happy with their men picking up too much weight either. Many of the women who complain about being dead bedroomed have probab…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 03:33 PM
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It kills me that many of these people didn't even take a closer look at what they did before posting their pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:21 AM
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Go to r/instagramreality Social media is filled with insecure people editing themselves into the ideal bodies they don't have. Even men and women who really have nothing to complain about will still adjust their proportions to unrealistic degrees. They also do not state that they edit the pics or that they have been for surgery. Young men and women may never know the truth and think they need to look like that, leading to greater insecurity among the youth. This shit isn't new, though. Models ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 12:20 AM
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i mean, if a child half my size "attacked" me I would simply stop them, walk away, or end the situation. This is why abuse requires a power differential. Why remove the power women wield here? That kid can allege you abused her. There was a video of a man trying to leave his home and his partner standing in the doorway. If he touched her he was fucked. If he never shot the video it was his word against hers and people are going to believe the woman. That "child" has so much power but we only foc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:07 AM
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The majority of relationships were reciprocal and men were more likely to seriously injure the woman. The poster said men are more likely to seriously injure women as the study YOU pointed out said, they weren't wrong on that. No one is excusing men's violence. You are attacking a strawman. The study was to show that the prevalence for violence among women was much higher than people think. Only when the relationship was one sided violence, then it was likely to be a woman 70% of the time. So wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 12:01 AM
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Feminists did it with the help of men. They needed men in government and in society to agree to listen to their issues and to ditch gender roles. Men agreed and support women to this day. Would women support men in the same way if they organised?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:37 PM
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Feminism got bankrolled by the Rockefellers in the 1970s. This is what really set them on the path we see today. Capitalists knew that doubling the labour supply would make wages more competitive. Men supported women when they asked for help. Women will not support men when they need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:36 PM
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You aren't going to convince a website comprising mostly Americans that the issues of another culture matter. I could point out the toxicity of Tiger Moms from China and the damage it does to kids and their partners. But that isn't going to change anything for you, though. Chris Brown got a load of shit for what he did to Rihanna. So he did not get away with it nor was there a court case where loads of men were defending him. She didn't need multiple sources proving she wasn't the abuser. She ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:33 PM
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I always see this pointed out when topics like this come about. But does it justify the abuse men receive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:24 PM
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Additionally, the far more common brand of abuse women are likely to engage in is not nearly as spectacular as the violent but even more uncommon men who leave literal bruises on their victims. Slow your role there. Women do, in fact, commit acts of physical violence against their partners. Most domestic violence is reciprocal. in a study of 14 000 young US couples aged 18-28 years, found that 24% of relationships had some violence and half of those were reciprocally violent. In 70% of the non-r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/22 04:22 PM
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I mean if the people here are sensitive then causing a ruckus at school over a joke is even more so. The broader issue is the unfair responses to poor behaviour by men and women or boys and girls. The original comment mentioned how content about poor behaviour from girls is moderated while shitting on boys is okay. There is a discrepancy there. So clearly not everyone is welcome.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 03:18 PM
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They know most people are average. They just don't see any value in being average. Many of them are as average as you get and realised that the work required to attract and keep a woman was disproportionate to the work she or Chad would have to put in to attract and keep a partner. So they figured that, since Chad at least gets laid more often, it is better to be like him. As an alpha he is the more attractive option. Women flock to him and offer him sex far easier than average men. And this is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:53 PM
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Yeah but it's not true. It reduces a very complex situation down to trivial levels. Have a closer look. Everyone is afraid of both scenarios. Men are afraid of being killed and don't you think women are afraid of being embarrassed too? The claim is that women fear being killed more but that is just neuroticism because men are generally murder victims more than women. So you would think this would mean men fear other men more than they fear women but this neuroticism doesn't stop men from interac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:30 AM
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The youth today are having less sex, casual or otherwise, than previous generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:28 PM
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Oof. The rare self burn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 04:27 PM
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It's called being a condescending dick or know-it-all. Women took offence because they thought this never happened to men. But women do it to men all the time. They don't trust men around the kids (they call it babysitting) or shit on them for not doing chores "their" way. Maybe we should say women are ovaryacting when they feel offended and want their feelings prioritized over everyone else's even though they aren't any more special than the next person.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 11:32 PM
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Sure but even 20% makes the odds slim considering women are likely going to filter for age, earnings, race and availability. That doesn't include looks and personality. But why is the average male height, which is still taller than the average female height, not good enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:29 PM
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Why isnt any of this talked about more? Because it's like trying to talk about the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia without sounding like a pedophile yourself. Women don't like it when they are shamed for their sexuality. But men's is free game. Even though the least savoury aspects of a woman's sexuality is promiscuity it is still a choice on her part to be a slut. But men dare not be critical because it is sexist. They cannot comment on her body or weight. Even the worst kinds of…
/r/MensRights23/07/22 01:28 PM
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Go look at the average height women set on Bumble for their filters. The numbers pick up significantly from 6 feet onwards. https://mobile.twitter.com/persiancapital/status/1501202280120729603 90% of women are looking for 6% of men. On height alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:28 PM
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Above average men continue to have sex. It's the average and below average men who are struggling because average and below average women don't want them. However, there is indeed a discrepancy in the expectations men and women place on each other. Most men have dropped the expected gender roles for women. Women can be anything they want to be and if you, a man, try to define what a Real Woman is, you are a misogynist. Women have not extended the same courtesy to men. They still expect men to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:46 AM
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Who wouldn't be weirded out by past actions? You discover your boyfriend experimented at college with other men. He was not on top...could you maintain attraction to him? Your girlfriend used to sell nudes online years ago. They never saw her face but what if she messed up? What if people begin to figure out those were her nudes? How would that affect her and your relationship? Your partner did drugs for a while back in the day. They were heavy into the party lifestyle and were constantly high. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:49 PM
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It is mostly young men who are unsuccessful. The point is supposed to be that they use that anger to change so they have the advantage and don't feel left out. They are also reacting to women's preferences and finding the best ways to be sexually attractive to them. The circular logic argument works if you remove the context. Women say they want men who will commit then fuck men without committing. Men who offer commitment get friendzoned. The solution here is to be the kind of man she wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 01:15 PM
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I mean…in your social circle aren’t you constantly meeting new people? I always have a friend who brings another friend form a different social circle and then we click. Like how small is your social group that your not meeting new people? So other people are doing the work of introducing people to you? Yes, many men do not have huge social circles. Men just aren't in demand in social situations like women are. I mean, bars and clubs draw men in by advertising to women that drinks are cheaper fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 08:53 AM
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Could they get a little consideration from women? Or could women also acknowledge that life is unfair in ways they don't like? Because when women complain things are unfair and men are to blame, men are expected to change and fix it for women's benefit. Are women ever expected to change for men's benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:22 PM
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Boys are falling behind in school. Get them more help and support. Get more male teachers into classrooms to act as role models. This means having quota or hiring targets for men in schools much like STEM companies have to meet. This will improve the self esteems of the boys. Get these boys into sport. Barring extremes, almost anyone can kick a ball. They compete and learn to deal with loss and team dynamics. Valuable life skills. Thanks to sport, they get exercise and look better. They feel mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 05:19 PM
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Also, a lot of men these days simply are weird and inappropriate in their advances. There are lots of reasons for this, but a major one is a lack of proper social instruction and strong, positive, masculine figures to look up to in younger years. Then the solutions people provide just aren't going to work, are they? The reason there aren't more male role models around is because there are plenty of men who didn't have much of a choice in being a parent beyond sex. And unless consent to sex is co…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:58 PM
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Social circle - who's friends are constantly and regularly introducing them to single women? That never sounded realistic to me. In reality social circle is extremely low volume and largely based on luck. I had an argument here with someone about this. The solution many women believe can work is to have female friends and not to have them with the intention of trying to have a girlfriend. So the solution to getting a girlfriend is to make friends with women without the intention of having a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 04:44 PM
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Because 1) ideal versions of what women want are not what they will always be attracted to in real life This doesn't help anyone. Men or women. It just means men cannot trust what women say they want. The numbers say women do desire the idealised version. 40% of men between 18 and 29 are single and are the statistic mostly with the growing sexlessness. if our hypothetical man does what you describe, he will certainly never find companionship. There are things far worse than death or failure, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 01:59 AM
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Physical attractiveness is one advantage, but if those people keep thinking it's the only advantage, or the only way to meet people... I can see why they are stuck. There are entire industries built around people who are attractive. You can have a shit personality, but be hot and still get a date. It is great if you have both but if someone had to put their money on which trait matters more, looks would win.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:17 PM
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There are a record number of singles in the US in relative and absolute terms. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Something like a third of all adults are single. The demographics most like to be single are on the younger and older side. If you are between the ages of 18 and 29, there is a 40% chance you are single. Among men, those younger than 30 are by far the most likely to be single: About half of men in this age group (51%) are single. Rough…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:13 PM
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I have a university degree and thankfully no debt. It gave me good opportunities but where I come from it is rare. Most people are too poor to earn one. In the US at least boys are falling behind in education in a way that would be unacceptable were it happening to girls. Women earn more degrees than men and it isn't a worry that this could be harming their chances. It is seen as women's superiority. This is important because an environment that prioritizes girls is not going to convince more bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 05:02 PM
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Nobody said they necessarily deserve it, but it’s often a consequence of their own actions. I mean this is the Just World Fallacy. Boys are falling behind girls in school and no one really cares. Boys are far more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD and be seen as problems, usually in a school environment that has few men around to even be role models. Many young boys come from single parent homes where they grow up in poverty. They may never see a male role model until high school. This kid is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 04:56 PM
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Whenever people talk about this problem there seems to be a Just World Fallacy in the mix. As in these men did something to deserve the loneliness and self esteem issues that come with the socioeconomic issues they have. A young man today must have status to be seen as a potential partner. Preferably a good job and a degree. He must earn more than average to make up for any shortcomings including height. That degree is going to cost him years in debt. Student debt is a mental as well as financia…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:29 PM
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When an equal number of men take responsibility for the children they create that will work. They are forced to even if they don't want to. On multiple levels. A woman can rape a minor or an adult and get pregnant. She keeps the kid and he is on the hook for child support. He never consented to being a parent. He never consented to the sex. The law says he must be responsible for the kid, at least financially. If he doesn't he goes to jail. Let's say he did have consensual sex. But he never cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 03:54 AM
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If he is hot enough she won't make him wait for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:51 AM
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Unfortunately there is no way to correct the messy shit fest, that is modern dating There are ways. But because women won't like them they aren't even considered. For example, men have agreed to ditch gender roles for women. Any man who expects his wife to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen is probably going to be seen as backwards. Women, meanwhile, can pick and choose which gender roles they like and they will not be seen as less attractive because of it. Women have not agreed to offer me…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:31 AM
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but I’m not sure women smiling and saying thank you helps a man who truly wants to be affirmed by women in a “desired” way. That's a bit specific to relationships. Who doesn't want to feel desired? How would a woman react to feeling less feminine and undesired? These feelings can come from multiple sources such as other women insulting her looks or her partner being less intimate. What is more validating as a human being to be desired by other human beings you desire? Many young men have very ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:24 AM
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A lot of relationships start out as fuck buddies. If she isn't willing to fuck you without commitment from the start, she doesn't see you as attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:05 AM
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They're the ones setteling for women that they hate and aren't attracted to. They're the ones going to bed thinking of and mourning over the attractive women that they could be with. And they're projecting hat hatred and regret onto the poor sack of shit women that were dumb enough to believe that these men actually liked or wanted them. Projection about projection? You are arguing against a strawman. There is a huge difference between don't be a slut and be a virgin. There is a huge difference …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:09 PM
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Past partners can cause problems in present relationships. Usually it's because someone is still in contact with an ex. But if you are average Jane and things went south with Ms America before he was with you, you are going to have a twinge of insecurity popping up and you are going to wonder if he would still rather be with her than with you. As for whether it is a recipe for success. Sure. People shouldn't be jealous or insecure. But good luck finding someone who has the emotional maturity and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:55 PM
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Lost a lot of weight in my 20s. Something like going from obese to a bit overweight but with muscle. It was like night and day. There is a tipping point where women either make it very obvious they like being around you or they openly flirt. I very quickly (well, quicker than before) got a girlfriend who later became my wife. I like to believe she would have still wanted me at my heaviest but I made a point of not going back there and kept the weight off. Before then I had resigned myself to bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:43 PM
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Yeah. If the ladies are low value themselves, since when are they entitled to more than low value males?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:06 AM
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So there is no middle ground? It's all or nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:05 AM
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Sure but how does it lead to an honest discussion about the issues? Men built RP around the fact that there are men out there who tend to get more sex and they are often the worst kinds of men. They acknowledge there are terrible men out there however, they cannot force women to like nicer men. So many nice guys got friendzoned and they wanted an answer to their romantic woes that RP gained support. RP also made men acknowledge their shortcomings and develop healthier habits. This requires intro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:49 AM
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All those single people in the US - men and women - are looking for love. They are not happy being alone. Surely there has to be a better way than a race to the bottom? Do you really consider it a victory for a society that has provided for you to implode despite there being people in it that could form families and communities, and support each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:15 PM
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I have said it before. There are solutions to these problems but women would be unwilling to compromise even if it is to their benefit Women complain about casual sex sucking or fuccbois not committing. Solution? Be consistent and accept the consequences of your choices. If you offer sex soon after meeting the guy, don't be mad if he doesn't offer more than sex in return. Alternatively, and to your benefit, get commitment first. This way you get a boyfriend you like to fuck and no man has to won…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:12 PM
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As Dave Chapelle said, if she has a right to kill my unborn child, the least I should be able to do is abandon them.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 02:04 PM
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That's why women are unhappier today compared to 70 years ago when it was much easier to live off one salary. Then feminists convinced women that serving a corporation for a salary was freedom, but serving your family was oppression. Now you need two salaries just to get by. Better to not have kids if that's the case. Wonder how many women would be okay with giving up the option of having kids to keep working...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:17 AM
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And fight off the home invaders...and mow the lawn...and change the oil...and clean the car...and sort out the electronics....and get rid of any animals and bugs that make their way in....and do home maintenance like cleaning out gutters and painting...and maintain the tool shed...and build anything that is DIY in the house like the crib...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 06:15 AM
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So they had to navigate a social environment they hated so they wouldn't be lonely and poor? ... So all those single moms out there are not only lonely and poor, now they don't have a husband around either. There are a record number of single people around and the birth rate is declining. It seems like women found themselves on the same path they were trying to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:45 AM
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Just don't do it then. No one is forcing you to be married. You can be a single mom for as long as you want. What men are saying is don't then complain about being single or complain about your poor dating options. That would be hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:41 AM
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There is no guarantee she regretted it. If women regret casual sex so much they would be married before their late 20s. So many leave marriage until the absolute last that they become single in their 30s, at the worst time to be single. At 30, half of the eligible population is off the market. If women had their 32 minutes of regret at 21 and then decided to find a good man at, say, 24 it wouldn't be so bad. But many of them are in their 30s, are overweight, are single moms and they reek of desp…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:40 AM
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This “ridiculous bar” means most of the time: have a stable job, move out of your parents house, have an education etc The problem is a lot of men aren’t even doing these basic things and they’re falling behind their female peers. Simply flipping the genders doesn't work. Women do not experience dating as men. When women do, as OP and I showed with examples, they are shocked to see the reality. With regards to your point about education, a job and moving out, have a look at the reality: https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:28 AM
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Billions of women have died in childbirth and billions suffered life-altering labor injuries to bring humans into the world. Really? More women than have ever existed have died giving childbirth? Men sure do, because men are thousands of times more likely to engage in risky behavior while women take measures to avoid risk and remain in the home because of familial duties or cultural expectations. I mean, y'all are welcome to be the bullet sponges and labour horses. Men gave you ladies opportunit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 04:13 AM
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The thing is men don't see each other as a group like women do. They measure the merits of each man according to his behaviour. They don't see other men and immediately think "my brothers!". Maybe women do this more often and while there are benefits to the support, the downside is that women tend to excuse or overlook each others' poor behaviour. This is why men will show strong evidence that part of the reason men are struggling is due to women's behaviour, and they will still ignore or deflec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 03:58 AM
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OP is calling out a serious bias against men, one that should work the way you're saying, but in practice does not. Which is why it's a bias. Emotional labour didn't even start out as a man or woman thing. Retail workers and others in the service industry used the term to describe situations where they had to grin and be nice even when customers were being shitty. Having to pretend or fake it means that it becomes emotionally exhausting to deal with people all day. Women using the term implies t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 01:33 PM
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What's wrong with being a cat lady aka an older single woman? Sure there are older women who are unhappy being single but there's also those older women who are content with being single. Women also seem to be more content with being older and single than men do, and that aside, since women do in fact have an abundance of dating options, they don't become involuntary single or incels like men do, so becoming a cat lady, I'd argue is for the vast majority of women,a choice. The number of women on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:37 PM
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Come on. Men have died protecting women. They gave women rights without them having to shed any blood. The freedom that Americans have they had to fight for. This is common in many countries. If they want a regime change they have to be willing to die for them. Women today have more rights than men and are generally more favoured by the law. Men are victims of violence from men and women. They get harmed and murdered far more than women do. Women don't give a damn either. But this isn't the poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:00 PM
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Once backed into a corner the truth comes out. They genuinely don't care. They know they are in a privileged position. They are also unhappier today than they were 60 years ago and more of them are going to become cat ladies than previous generations. They will still say they don't care then whine on datingoverthirty about how "dating has changed" or their dating profiles will have a laundry list of requirements. Norah Vincent spent 18 months as a man and when she dated she thought she would hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 09:22 AM
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It’s not that hard to find a partner that you’re attracted to and get along well with but these men are really torn up about it. This does run counter to what women have said here before that getting sex was easy but finding a hot guy who is also boyfriend material is not. The record number of singles in the US (combined with the high number of people still looking for The One) says it isn't that easy unless you are in the upper crust in terms of looks and status. For men it's pretty harsh if yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 08:07 AM
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What kind of men do you think get more casual sex from women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 07:48 AM
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There seems to be a lot of confusion among women here about the difference between a sausage party vs a night out with the boys. Organising a ladies night is not the same as getting to a party and discovering there are just women there. The intention is to invite only women. Just as a night out with the boys could be you and some friends having a drink, playing games or going to watch a basketball game. What OP is talking about is men socialising and trying to meet people only to discover that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:39 AM
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...the dehumidifier?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 03:30 AM
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Pussy doesn't get super wet easily unless you eat a girl out for 15mins. Good god. Does she have a dehumidifier in her cooch or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 05:55 AM
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weaponized incompetence. Y'all marry an incompetent guy then wanna complain that he is using it like a weapon against you? If you have been falling for that trick for years that's on you. Did you check to see if he could load a dishwasher before saying yes to his proposal? Did you discuss how to balance chores and expectations around different parts of home maintenance? Or did you marry a lying idiot thinking he will change then surprise Pikachu faced yourselves when the bulk of the work fell on…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:15 AM
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Calling emotional support for a vulnerable partner therapy isn't conducive to a healthy relationship. Or would it be okay if men offered women no emotional support? No ear to listen to her problems, no comforting words or thoughtful gestures to help her through? I am not sure what it is women expect of men here. Are men supposed to be robots that have no feelings, just listen, provide and sit quietly in a corner until called upon?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:07 AM
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Women don’t have or were never thought emotional capacity for a men to be able to share what they feel. Ever wonder why gay men are so happy? They finally get to be who they want to be. Open and free. They can really express themselves and be honest about what they are feeling. This doesn't cost them attraction because their partners still desire them. They can be as masculine or as feminine or anything in-between as they want and it won't harm their chances of finding love...or at least a sex p…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:21 PM
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Wow this is insightful. I think the indictment on female nature is spot on. Quite a few men have said that when women ask them to share their feelings, they don't mean negative feelings or vulnerability. Women don't say this explicitly so men share and it backfires because emotional honesty from their partner is scary. It might mean she may have to change something and in a culture where women can do no wrong, there surely must be something sexist in a woman being placed in a position to change …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 10:10 PM
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and this post is highlighting how many men only stay with their wives while their useful. Watch the wives bail when hubby loses his job. It's a fact of life that if you are no longer useful to anyone you may not be attractive to anyone. Men make their value through productivity and protection. Women do it through sex primarily but also through feminine traits such as kindness and being nurturing. If you remove those things the other person has a difficult choice ahead. Are we saying it's right t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 01:02 PM
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Guys don’t go after just any girl. I don't think this was ever the claim. It was that, overall, women tend to have it easier in dating than men. Morbidly obese women have the same N counts as average men. Your tales of rejection are no different from most men. But that doesn't mean women as a whole don't have it easier. We have evidence from loads of data from dating apps telling us that men rate most women as attractive while women don't think much of most men. Men tend to be the ones initiatin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 04:17 AM
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Since joining the sub, my N-count has increased drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:20 AM
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Kid: Mom, why does dad keep calling it the Summer of 69? It was 2013! Mom: Don't ask silly questions... Kid: And didn't you two only meet like a year after that? Mom:...well...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:19 AM
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for eating Christians Was ..erm....was foreskin like a delicacy back then or...?
/r/MensRights05/07/22 12:08 AM
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Hehe it was for effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 12:05 AM
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One thing the government to this day has not looked into is the effect of the dop system that farmers used for many years. A dop is a drink. Wine farmers needed cheap labour so they offered to pay part of your salary in wine. This got a bunch of farm workers addicted. They would work for alcohol. How many women were pregnant, poor and drinking alcohol that we don't know about? This would lead to widespread FASD. We are, however, talking about generations of this. At the fall of Apartheid the ANC…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:22 PM
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Women's bodies change after they have children so it isn't good to fixate on the porn culture body type stuff because it's all bullshit. So don't have children. And most women who use the "our bodies change" argument don't want to exercise and diet anyway. Even if your body changes you can still stay in shape. You don't have to be overweight after becoming a mom. There are many women who have given birth and returned to a healthy weight. Fyi the average pornstar is a brunette with B cups. Not th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 04:10 AM
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What do nice arms look like? Nicely proportioned or a bit developed in the gym? At least im consistent Not in terms of height. The average Man is 5 9" in the US. On height alone he would be above average if he met your requirements. For the women it is the same. Women average 5 4" in the US. You like 'em tall, eh? Out of interest, why do you want potential male partners to be taller than potential female partners? Does height add to his masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:53 AM
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I remember reading a study where they asked men and women what they think their gender's ideal body type is. Then they asked what the ideal body type for the opposite would be. Men believed that they needed to be more muscular than what women actually found most attractive. Women believed they needed to be thinner than what men found most attractive. Most men I know like women with curves. There are some who like slender and petite women but men tend to have a variety of tastes. That same dude i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:48 AM
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It's because nice guys are almost never hot enough. The women know they are orbiting them, hoping for a chance. So they use them by implying (it's about the implication) that doing favours for them will lead to something more. They never state it out right and they may offer compliments and the illusion of intimacy. But if you are in love with her and she ain't fucking you, it means you are not her first or top choice. What you notice when these women settle down is a combination of desperation …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 02:54 PM
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But if she has a willing partner, should she deny him something he is eager to offer in return? And even if the context is that women's pleasure didn't matter before, how does that help a man now who is actively trying to improve his sex life? Men are generally already blamed for women failing to enjoy sex. It's not men's fault women need loads of foreplay just to get in the mood. Are women not at least somewhat responsible for their sexual pleasure?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 05:06 AM
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I mean, do you like the idea of him shacking up with your mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:04 AM
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Unmarried couples who cohabitate have a 50/50 breakup rate. Women still do a lot of paperwork and housework in those relationships. The gender that has traditionally wanted to marry first are the first ones who want out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 04:02 AM
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Each other. We're family. ... With benefits ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 03:33 AM
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They aren't meant to be anything but an echo chamber. They were started in response to the nice guys sub, which itself is a sexist echo chamber. Most of Reddit is filled with echo chambers of people hating on other groups for some reason or another, and feeling superior about the position they support. If you don't like them, don't go browse their content. Stay in echo chambers you like, like everyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:29 PM
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If he is so hot, why not fuck him sooner rather than later? Why does the sex you offer the casual dude mean nothing but it means something to a guy you apparently value more? It is the same sex. It doesn't somehow become better if you wait longer. All it means is that you are using it as a tool. You are gauging interest using your vagina. Men don't want women who use sex as a tool. They want women who show genuine desire. If the guy just wants sex, making him wait isn't going to turn him into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 02:07 PM
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It depends whether you respect consent or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 07:02 AM
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About 3 or 4 today so far. You are going for a record!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:50 AM
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I would appreciate dinner and a show first before you put things, like words, in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:49 AM
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I love this. It gets to the core of the issue so quickly. I really wish more women would see this. A 6 foot tall guy who earns 40k a year, who is not obese, who is between the ages of 20 and 40 and is NOT married...and this is excluding disabilities, mental health issues and looks...the chances are... 2.1%
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:33 AM
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i guess if threatens dont work maybe playing the victim works I wonder how many more of these I will see from you...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:30 AM
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I think you’re coming from a place of hurt and rejection Look, I am married. I have a family. But I know quite a few guys who have been through hell. Who have given up because why bother. I don't have a horse in the race. But I don't think it is healthy for a culture or society to ostracise half of the demographic through a narrative that they are borderline evil or they should be held responsible for all the evil in the world. in my opinion it’s incredibly misandristic to imply all the serious …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 03:29 AM
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You have it the other way around, women’s standards have not risen. Men have just become less dateable, a lot of men are already anti social but now they have the technology to completely socially isolate themselves through video games and pornography. They start when they are preteens and don’t stop when they’re adults, women are not involved. What is attractive about a man who is unemployed or makes minimum wage who lives with his parents? I would argue that they have done this in response to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 04:37 PM
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men they actually like The problem is, as you noted, the people they actually like happen to be the top 10% of men. This creates problems for everyone, including women. Imagine if men only wanted hot bikini models. Women and men of all shapes, sizes and looks would be sitting without dates despite there being enough people to pair up with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:20 AM
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This is accurate. Even women who have done social experiments as men become misogynists when they see what it's like on the other side. Trans men and Norah Vincent (who spent 18 months as a man) have experiences in real life of the other side and they don't like it. Vincent said being a woman was more of a privilege when she was done. The challenge for young men is socialising. It's hard enough during times of plague (thanks Covid) but they cannot approach at work, at the gym, at the grocery sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:16 AM
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The irony is they simultaneously think their dating experiences are mainstream and average. They do have the data to back them up, though. Someone posted a study of a dude who swiped right on 8000 profiles and it landed him like 3 dates. He was 6 foot 3 with a degree and probably from a upper middle class background. Also take note that OP has painted women into a corner here. If indeed you are representative of the mainstream (MANY women here have said before that Reddit is not real life) then …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 11:58 AM
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There is no wage gap. So women shouldn't complain about it anyway. They choose lower paying jobs. It is illegal to pay someone less for the same work. There would be lawsuits all over the place if this happened. No economist takes the wage gap seriously either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 12:48 AM
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Men can also rape women which is way more prevalent than the reverse Not true. https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/ Women are raping men as much as men are raping women. You bring up minors yet you don't even bring up the point that it's a majority of men that do that. And they are treated as the filthy scum they are. They are tossed in jail and some are even killed in jail for harming kids. Women rape kids and they get a slap on the wrist or the media calls it a relationship... You act li…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 05:04 PM
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There was a study posted here about it a while ago. It is about how morbidly obese women have the same N counts as average men. It also mentions that thinner women are more selective so they have lower partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 04:45 PM
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The thinner and more attractive a woman is, the lower her N count. They don't just give it up to any old shmoe. Women with the highest N counts tend to be morbidly obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:54 PM
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They have a lot of men who desire them so they can choose to date some of them. Or do you think women would fuck any man who shows interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:45 PM
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"oh man, you should see how much money I DON'T have. Omg you would not believe how NOT wealthy I am!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:44 PM
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Yeah but a woman can rape a man or even a minor, get pregnant, sue for child support and win. This is the lack of equality men are talking about. Do you think the women were just sitting back enjoying life with the men off to war while London was being carpet bombed. Armies also defended the home front. Not all of the men left. The Battle of Britain was a large scale air force battle between Nazi Germany and England in British air space. Men were the ones doing all the fighting. No one is saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:22 PM
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So you think it's realistic to expect your husband to go 20 years without sex? Not like women aren't dead bedrooming their husbands anyway. But I never said married people shouldn't have sex or kids. You can practice safe sex to reduce the chances of pregnancy and discuss beforehand what is supposed to happen if a pregnancy occurs. Getting pregnant also doesn't mean the kid is unwanted. Using abortion as an argument against unwanted kids when there are other methods around isn't a point in its f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:59 AM
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its quite the opposite:if you prefer conservative values,you can move to Mormon and amish communities,but you cant threaten the society or force woman to marriage using the decrease of birth rate,and like Latin America,i think it will become normal that woman raise the kids by themselves than ending with toxic average joe If only those single moms weren't living in poverty because they fucked an asshole who wouldn't commit. If the average Joe is toxic, I wonder how bad the men were the women fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 11:17 AM
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here we comes "if i dont have kids the birth rate gonna be zero the society gonna collapse tomorrow",a lot of immigrants wanna work in north America and the couples in Mormon and Amish communities usually have more kids,you cant threaten society with this old ghost story anymore,its a joke at best Oh no! You have uncovered the truth! Quickly my Muslim brethren! Subdue the women and subvert their rights! They are walking around uncovered and it is haram!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 06:07 AM
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The children born to women who wanted to abort them will grow up abused and unloved. We as a society don't have the resources to adequately take care of all the children that already exist. Throwing more children into the mix isn't going to solve anything. It's simple. Women can make sure they don't get pregnant by practicing safe sex, making sure they are committed to a partner (such as marriage) before having sex or making babies, or abstaining. Abortions should be a last resort. It shouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 02:23 AM
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There is another metric that OP didn't mention, which is a declining birth rate. It is very difficult to pin it on one or two variables. But societal booms and collapse go hand in hand with their population. An example would be Nigeria's expected population growth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Nigeria See that population pyramid? That's a sign that a lot of kids are going to be born and they will have to be productive to survive. If only the government weren't so corrupt...but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:38 AM
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Nuclear family is great if one person can bring in enough to pay for a house, food, clothes, education and some recreation. Not so great if both parents are working and cannot spend time with their kids. If this is the case you need more than the nuclear family to get by. Grandma and grandpa or other family should be living with you or living nearby to help out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:20 AM
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Men spend their lives proving themselves worthy of a woman's love. Cheating is a sign he isn't worthy but she continued to lie about it. He wasn't enough for her. That's going to hurt his self esteem especially after the work he put in for the relationship to happen in the first place. He is probably going to be lonely afterwards and wonder why he wasn't good enough. It will poke at his insecurities and just reinforce every rejection that no, he isn't good enough. Then there is the fact that he …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 01:07 AM
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I have never seen a guy, even you, recognize that not all women are in this position. I showed you an example of a woman who was able to attract a partner despite having some physical deformities and data showing that morbidly obese women have the N counts that average men do. Even unattractive women are in a better position than most men. There was even a femcel subreddit that existed for women who couldn't attract men to vent their frustrations. They went private. Why? Because they got flooded…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 12:07 PM
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However, it gets tiring seeing criticisms of the female gender just based on a subgroup of women that doesn't necessarily apply to every woman. It's like, men don't acknowledge there is a diversity in females personalities and experiences just because that's not what they obsess over. This is projection from women. Women only notice top tier men and so assume men only want the hottest women. https://quillette.com/2019/03/12/attraction-inequality-and-the-dating-economy/#:~:text=Yet%20another%20st…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 08:00 AM
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They are trying to discuss trends they notice or have studies on. The way the women are here you could ask them if they find 6foot+ tall men the most attractive and most of them would say they are married to a 3foot tall stay at home dad who hasn't worked before in his life. Okay, I jest, but there is either some virtue signalling going on or we just somehow got all the exceptions to the rule here. Maybe whenever men ask a question they should ask women to see if they have seen any women behavin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 02:47 AM
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Why then do they insist on arguing as if they represent women, but when criticised claim they are not a monolith? You are correct though. A lot of middle and upper middle class married women here who are arguing against single men. They are quite privileged.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 01:17 AM
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From being borderline obese to becoming a more normal weight, it was like night and day. Firstly, the work in the gym was just outstanding for relieving stress and building confidence. I never had as many options from genuinely gorgeous women before, both younger and older. Eventually I met my wife and while I did pick up some weight later on, she still stuck around. What losing the weight did was make me look younger/my age. Imagine someone in their early 20s looking like they are in their 40s.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 04:16 PM
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Women that don't get a partner are just called crazy cat ladies. You don't see them murdering random guys on the streets for not getting their pussy stuffed. No, they just cry rape and ruin a dude's life instead. Yet somehow men think they are entitled to empathy just because they can't get their dick wet and get called incels. This is like saying crazy cat women are pissed off that they aren't getting enough dick. Maybe it could be because they are lonely and wish they had someone around who lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:43 PM
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You are not going to get much acknowledgement from the women here about this. They still believe men are the privileged sex or that they must be doing something wrong to be alone. Men here have offered countless examples of women's shallowness from online dating challenges men have, to Chadfishing experiments and even instances where women were shocked to discover how tough it was when they experimented dating as a man. Trans men and bisexual men and women also chimed in to give an overall impre…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:33 PM
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It's a poor response that doesn't take into account men's experience of dating. Men cannot just show up and organically meet someone. That's all it takes for women. He has to consider context, read body language, escalate in a way that makes her feel comfortable and be the kind of romantic she wants. And let's not forget that women generally cannot agree on where and when the best time and place is to approach. At work? Bad idea. At the gym? She just wants to workout and not be bothered. At her …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:18 PM
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But would it kill the women to admit they liked the apples? These answers are usually filled with virtue signalling and idealism. You could ask the women here if they expect their partners to pay for the date and you would get 90% plus saying they would never dare to let him pay or they would go Dutch. So either they are special exceptions to the rule or they are lying because admitting they enjoy a man taking them out and paying may make them look shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:07 PM
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They can but take note that sexlessness among average men has increased to the point that it has tripled in the last decade. Add to that the fact that morbidly obese women have the same partner counts as average men, and that women rate 80% of the men on online dating apps as below average, and it paints a grim picture of the dating prospects of most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 11:30 AM
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The side effects of psych meds are less likely to be harmful to a woman’s health than a toxic partner or multiple pregnancies. So if it’s true that half of women reporting they’re happier single are on antidepressants, I still don’t see an issue with it. If only they could change their taste in men... And happier single than with shitty men doesn't mean they are ecstatic about the thought of dying alone. Almost everyone wants someone to love and to love them in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:23 AM
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marry a crazy cat man Skibadubbadidndoedoodoodooo... Oh, wait a moment. You said catman. Whoops. My bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:21 AM
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I think they feel aggrieved that a woman could attract multiple potential partners without even having to do half the work while they have to put in extreme effort to get the same. It isn't fair, sure. But that doesn't mean the effort doesn't come with benefits, such as more sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:16 AM
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The issue we run into is when men seem to blame women for them being single. I don't think it's fair to blame someone else for your relationship struggles. It's not like women don't do this shit too plus we have seen how average men just cannot get a win with the women around them such as through online dating where women rate 80% of the men below average. Women do need to take some responsibility here for causing a very competitive SMP. Even when you look at what the ideal man for marriage is, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 10:01 AM
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I dunno. I feel like men are really sad about their realities around relationships and dating. MGTOW is a logical response to a culture that expects them to be producers at the cost of their humanity and individualism. But it's an unhappy compromise. They want women to love them. They want to be husbands and fathers. But they don't fit into the mold of being tall, rich, handsome and preferably white, which is in high demand. Why shouldn't they vent their frustrations? What else is there to talk …
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:09 AM
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You could say that about anything. I could coerce you into giving me a lift to the airport or to give me a bite of your donut. You still have to say yes or no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 03:54 AM
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Because men don’t want to allow things to happen at the pace women are comfortable with. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. Men do not "allow" things to happen at a pace women are comfortable with. Women allow things to happen at a pace they are comfortable with. Women choose when sex happens, not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:12 PM
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Sure and I agree. But he is trying to figure out how to get there. He knows he is doing something wrong but cannot figure it all out on his own. So why the snide remarks and insults? He is asking for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 05:11 PM
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Why did “Married…with Chidren” resonate with so many men? Look at Al Bundy's life. He had a wife that couldn't cook, clean or discipline the kids while he sold shoes for a living. He slaved away dealing with shitty customers in a sometimes humiliating environment (you think everyone had nice smelling feet?) only to come home to a place where he was disrespected and couldn't really relax. His kids hated him. And they were losers. His wife was demanding, annoying and lazy. He wished for a better l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:46 PM
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This is because men frame it in an exploitative way. How? He is in the correct context for trying to escalate romance. It's a date. It means he has to say and do the right things that make someone feel at ease and want to spend more time with him. He isn't getting things right and he is trying to figure out what's wrong. Why is this exploitative? Why is him asking for help a problem? Men get it. Women want it to be natural and things to "just happen". But that's not the dating experience men hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 04:20 PM
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Thing is if women get a place to vent about how shitty men are, why can men not have the same to vent about how shitty women are? The difference is women can do so publicly and gain support. Men can only complain about women in anonymous internet forums or with close friends. We need to be consistent here. Either no one can vent or everyone can. And if everyone can vent, why not have a dedicated space for that so they can keep it away from others who are not interested in it?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 04:09 PM
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I'll take "women projecting their desire to manipulate others, especially men, onto men" for $1000.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:41 PM
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Hardly. What women see is his new girlfriend (after the divorce his wife likely initiated) is younger than his ex so they assume he left her for a younger women. Most divorced guys don't do this. Most of them don't even initiate the divorce!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:40 PM
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I had an argument with someone about this recently. They were smug about men getting less sex because women are going to be more cautious. I said if they don't want to be pregnant they should use contraceptives or abstain. That's the advice men were given by women for years. So why should it be different for women? I was accused of being insensitive. So I said it's difficult for men to sympathise when women were defending making men parents without their consent. Now that they face the reality, …
/r/MensRights26/06/22 02:50 PM
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I don’t think you have the capacity to continue this conversation given your confusion throughout the thread - have a nice day! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! I can't believe you were triggered by consent. OMG.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:15 AM
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She’s saying she’s sad that your wife has to deal with your evident total lack of empathy Lack of empathy? Wow...I flipped the genders on her and suddenly it's a lack of empathy. Where was the empathy for men who were made parents without their consent? If the same words seem to lack empathy with the genders reversed - and y'all have a problem with it - that's called hypocrisy and sexism. and reading comprehension, apparently. Of course you would resort to insults. Got anything else? Because if …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 06:14 AM
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thats why woman should have high standards for casual and ltr Sure but what does that have to do with making sure you get your partner's consent to be a parent before you have a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:45 AM
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now this comment just makes me sad. genuinely hope she is happy and fulfilled, and has the tools to navigate through your rubbish. you win some, you lose some. Wait, you are actually sad that a woman cares about consent and not just getting pregnant without a care for what her partner thinks? The hell is wrong with you? This shit is some rubbish someone needs tools to navigate. And don't pretend like you care about someone you have never met before. Go take your virtue signalling elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:42 AM
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it dramatically cuts down on dating options. It was very hard to find a man willing to wait 3 months for sex. Men have been saying this for years. Women being promiscuous hurts the options of women who aren't. Men got called sexist, especially if they said they didn't want to commit to hoes. I agree with you that you shouldn't have uncommitted sex if the consequences are so severe. But broadly speaking, it is very difficult for men to sympathise with women's position when women have been very sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 03:35 AM
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You don't HAVE to have sex, you know. If the fear of pregnancy is that great and you only seem to be dating assholes who don't want to use condoms (and it looks like your poor decision making is going to head you straight down the path of single motherhood) then stop fucking! Stop having sex and you won't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 03:52 PM
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Sure but you aren't going to get someone to date you if they don't at least find you fuckable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:33 PM
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don’t worry, you’re not at any risk of becoming a father without your consent bro Good thing the wife respects consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:32 PM
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Lotta women here mad when men don't want to raise kids they didn't consent to. Just take birth control or abstain. iT's nOt a bAsiC neED. foolproof!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 12:04 PM
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If you hear people whining and moaning about other stuff, that isn't feminism, it's some other social anger at some other bullshit they've possibly experienced but is unrelated to feminism. I have to ask why we should believe you and not the others who are louder, angrier and supportive of misandry. On Twitter the hashtag KillAllMen received so much support. It would not have been as successful if it was KillAllWomen. You are an anonymous internet feminist with nothing but good intentions. I can…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:51 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6hxr9t/study_shows_morbidly_obese_women_have_the_same/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Morbidly obese women have the same partner count as average men. Fat women are generally not too fat for men. Fat men are too fat for women. Morbidly obese men have the lowest partner counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:35 AM
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Women can do it publicly and gain support. In private with your friends is one thing. But good luck convincing the world that women are as shitty at sex. The prevailing narrative is it's all men's fault. This is despite gay men knowing how to get men off and having far, far more sex than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:59 AM
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men complain about bad sex all the time? that's why starfish is a thing. To the same extent as women complain about bad sex? Come on. You know a woman could publicly declare men bad at sex and get support. He is only complaining about starfish on an anonymous internet forum not after a terrible hookup. plus all the body shaming. Outside of anonymous internet debate forums dedicated to discussing things like this, do men tell women they are too fat to fuck in public? Do they reject a potential ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 01:57 AM
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You can give the world's worse handjob and a man will still come. That and the dude will grin and bear terrible foreplay because he perhaps hasn't had any sex in a while. He would much rather have it than not have it because getting to PIV sex can make up for a shitty handjob or blowjob. And men tend not to make it a habit to complain about bad sex. They don't want to insult their sex partners. Women don't give a fuck and will tell their friends you're shit in bed because you couldn't figure out…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:24 PM
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That's a poor argument because women know each others anatomy better. And as another poster said, gay men are doing great with each other. Men don't suck at foreplay. Let's also not forget that lesbian bed death sets in and they stop fucking whereas gay men tend to keep going at it. When you compare your average lesbian couple to your average gay couple, the gay men are generally happier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 03:18 PM
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Being "people" doesn't make them any more likely to fuck a guy. Being "people" means she is more than likely selfish, shallow and unwilling to settle down until she begins running out of options. Being "people" means she is subject to the forces of the SMP. I jest about the people part but the point stands. If it were that easy all the guys in the friendzone would be fucking. All the assholes who are violent, who are criminals or who are narcissists would not be getting laid at all. And yet they…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 02:41 PM
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You see this with domestic violence or when women are in danger. Women are equal... but they need special protection because they are weaker.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 08:44 AM
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Yeah I don’t thanks for explaining basic biology to me You are most welcome. It's really a shame that people don't know about this stuff. Im confused do y’all want women to have sex with you or not I'm confused. Is sex such a risk to women that it is better for them to abstain from it or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 07:13 AM
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It's because women are not on the other side competing. The right man comes along for them because they are more passive in the SMP. When women do compete is when there is a higher quality man about and they find it is difficult to keep his attention. That's when you see the bitchiness, the passive aggression and backhanded compliments come out. But even then they won't initiate. They want him to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/22 05:12 AM
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That is also an option. Abstinence is a way to avoid pregnancies and STDs. You don't have to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 11:55 PM
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No. It's to be realistic about her expectations. You not only removed all nuance here you are being less than generous about the interpretation of the argument. You have a situation where average men and women - who could partner up and make each other happy - are lonely and miserable. This is like saying you shouldn't have to lower your standards for desiring gourmet steak dinners when you can only afford a burger. Have a look at the height requirements women set on Bumble. The most desirable m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:36 AM
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In the absence of being to gauge a guys personality, via humour, chemistry, charisma, manners, smell and other things you need to be face to face for, the average guy is absolutely not appealing. Then why bother with dating apps? Why complain about men approaching in real life? Why make it near impossible for a guy to be appealing in the way you like? Why ghost when he is trying to make conversation? Why not try to take the time to chat or look at a bio to see if there is something you can work …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:01 PM
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Of course. But why do they complain when men they want overlook them? They can just be alone and not try to look for a partner like when they go on Tinder seeking a tall, fit, rich guy to take care of her and her kids. There are men and women who could meet, date and be happy if they were more realistic about their options. It's one thing if everyone was happy being single but the men are committing suicide and women are more unhappy than they were 6 decades ago. The birthrate is declining at a …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:49 PM
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Whenever men ask women if looks matter they say no. Wanting a tall guy is one thing, and you are right it is shallow. But it's one part of a complete package that they want. The height is one thing they can latch onto but they aren't saying they also want rich, handsome and white...which they usually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:40 PM
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Go ask the women here if they want to be approached in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:37 PM
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I get you and that's fine. But men tend to desire a wider variety of women. They are far less shallow. Women also are not honest about their desires. They claim the reason men are not getting laid has more to do with their attitudes and lack of effort rather than looks. A tall, athletic white guy with a symmetrical face and square jaw is going to get laid a lot. Everyone knows this. But where problems occur is when average men are not good enough for average women. These women would rather be pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 06:51 AM
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It's not just him. Even when women try this (as men) they hit a brick wall: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZTIbHIsIYw Her self esteem was destroyed and it wasn't even her profile!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 01:14 AM
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What's really shitty is just how much online dating has become part of the dating experience. It's no longer a niche way to meet. It's the main way for people to meet, have sex and perhaps even date. You cannot approach women in public, at work, at the gym, at the store...you have to hope for a friend network that can introduce you to some women. If you are lucky enough to have one. Maybe you could try a hobby and even then women complain despite them being the ones to suggest hobby groups as wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:33 AM
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You haven't heard of Norah Vincent. In her book Self Made Man, she lives as a man for 18 months. She dates women too (and becomes a bit of a misogynist as a result). Her conclusion? She prefers being a woman and considers it more of a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:29 AM
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Don't forget the Chadfishing experiments people have run to show the other side: https://www.boredpanda.com/social-experiment-guy-created-fake-tinder-profile-hot-model-pictures-germanlifter/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic Some messages and responses: Him: Can you just sit on my face so I can eat my way into your heart? Her: what are you doing tonight? Him: Jerking off to your pics. Her: Let's hang... Another one Him: I want to cum all over your beautiful face and make …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:27 AM
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but you might want to look around more for something that suites you This contradicts the position that an entire gender is bad at sex. If the men you fuck are terrible at sex why not take your own advice and find someone that suits you? You could have told OP this instead of telling men to go do more work. I dont remember the last time I heard one guy talk about a book on sex they read. You think a guy is going to tell you that he read about the alphabet trick on the clit in a sex book he bough…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/22 12:11 AM
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It is, because it's neither,realy. Uh huh... Well, keep guessing. I am sure you will figure it out someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 02:01 PM
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men wont put in the work Says the gender that just lies there and judges without being able to last nearly as long if they were the ones required to do the thrusting. Talk about an entitled attitude. they just want to be told every step of the way instead of looking or reading or trying on their own. Men have looked and read. But when they try and fail they get judged harshly. You ladies not only expect men to 'get it' without giving a hint, but you expect these men to then go looking for advice…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:42 PM
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That's great for you. But your position still places a burden on the other person to just "get it". We hear from women that they are not a monolith and they are all different. Different strokes work for different folks so while he might be a great lover to woman A, he might not do it for woman B. If he makes mistakes he is judged far more harshly than a woman who makes mistakes. Your position is the equivalent of a man saying women are rubbish when it comes to an intellectually stimulating conve…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:34 PM
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Never! And you can't make me!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:01 PM
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I didn't realise it was that difficult to figure out...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:01 PM
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Ooh, an air of moral superiority mixed into the sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:00 PM
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Having kids is more disruptive to a woman’s life in general. Then don't have kids. There are plenty of people who have decided to live child free lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:30 AM
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My fucking god its not a pissing contest Of course not. Because if it was, you ladies would lose XD
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:28 AM
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A bit of junk in the trunk, you say?
/r/PussyPassDenied20/06/22 04:26 AM
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So are women your concern in this statement? Concern how, exactly? The sentence about sex screams you don’t understand who women are 😂🤣. Don't have to care about understanding them if you still get sex. Most women have zero issue getting sex that’s not a concern in the least. That’s a male issue. Of course. But there are more single people in the US than ever before. Both in absolute and relative terms. Most women do desire marriage and to have kids. Getting sex isn't the issue. Finding a husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 03:30 AM
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This should be obvious but a lot of people find themselves single in their mid 30s and are desperate. Some are recently divorced. Others do have problems. You will find some women begrudgingly compromising and dating these men or thinking they hit the jackpot when a decent guy in his 30s comes along. And they get pumped and dumped anyway. Women created this situation by not dating and committing to decent men at a younger age. They wait until their options are practically gone before they want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:05 AM
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They don't care about it so much as they discuss the consequences of the poor choices people make in the SMP. Many of them don't want to be redpilled. They still want to believe the fairy tale. But it's either appeal to what women want and have choices or stick to blue pilled beliefs and be lonely. They know many women are going to die alone. They know many men will too. The low birth rate is a sign of a cultural decline. They don't want this but until women change their minds on what a good man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:01 AM
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I think people of both sexes overvalue having a general broad appeal to the highest number of the opposite sex as opposed to having an very intense appeal to the much smaller number of people who would actually be a great partner for you. It's because the one person who you are most compatible with is not going to magically fall into your lap. People would also get very lonely waiting for The One to appear. And sometimes they just aren't meeting a baseline of physical attraction to find someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 04:49 AM
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Burden of performance implies their value as a man is tied to their achievements. It also means women are not going to want him unless he is productive, especially with money. Women do not have the same burden. A woman's value is not tied to a pay cheque and she doesn't have to be the one performing to attract a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/22 04:34 PM
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My opinion, OP, is that women do like sex but they are lazy AF. Men must initiate and do all the work to get approval. All women have to do is lay there while he licks and thrusts. And heaven forbid he doesn't do it exactly how she wants (with minimal communication on her part) or else his performance is under scrutiny. Women wouldn't last 5 minutes having to do the work men must do for them to orgasm... But because it takes so much effort for women to get in the mood, and because it isn't alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:28 PM
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What did you do or stop doing which caused it. When you work that out you might start having happy relationships again. If only women would open their mouths (for more than sex) and communicate their needs like adults then men won't have to play guessing games with where they may have gone wrong...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:19 PM
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Most of them are not necessarily false but unprovable. In other words, there is no way to prove (beyond a shadow of doubt) it happened. This means we cannot trust either party so no one goes to jail. This is where feminists claim most rapists walk free. But without evidence it's really just he said, she said bullshit. If there are rapists walking free, there are also false accusers getting away with it. What we need to do, though, is punish those proven false with the same jail time a rape convi…
/r/PussyPassDenied17/06/22 08:43 AM
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Most women are attractive enough for a man to have sex with. Morbidly obese women have N counts that are the same as average men. Hotter and more slender women have lower N counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:38 PM
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You are being ideological here. Everyone would love that sort of world but in the real world women use sex as a tool and only offer it to men they deem worthy. Otherwise issues of consent would never be a problem. Consent means you "get" a yes. You are allowed to have sex with someone. You have their permission. You receive intimacy and pleasure. You may receive love and a relationship too if all goes well. But just as you get a hug or kiss from a partner who gives it to you, so do you get sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 11:37 PM
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That's not what the rule is. It's that 20% of the men are getting 80% of the sex. That doesn't mean all the women are hooking up all the time. It means that top tier men tend to get sex a lot easier from more women. In a group of 10 men and 10 women, the top 2 men may sleep with most of the women at least once. They get an N count of 7 or 8. Each of those women only fucked the guy once. They then get a boyfriend and check out of the market or wait for another hot dude to make his way in. The nex…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 09:01 AM
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No sweety modern civilization matters more then all of us, or you would have no say and i would be fighting tooth and nail to survive. So we have gold-diggers to thank for modern civilization?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:44 AM
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Yes, money isn’t lazy, sexually selfish/naggy or inconsistent Oh dear. A woman who attracts only sexually selfish, naggy or inconsistent men should be vetting better or she should not be sexually selfish, naggy or inconsistent herself. But I guess working for hours to make a corporation rich is an adequate substitute for a loving partner and a family, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:42 AM
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You are basically saying they aren't behaving in a way that you find acceptable. So their views are only valid when they express them in a way that you agree with. I.e. you are determining whether they are being gay in the right way. I said, what OP is complaining about is completely opposite from the complaints that I hear from wow Sure but you took it further than that and questioned whether they were even a woman. Do you think any woman who holds a view that is different from other wlw would …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:39 AM
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Sex and intimacy are...erm...intimately tied together. He gets the intimacy through sex. He gets it from her attention. He just wants her to find him worthy of her attention and he is willing to pay for it too. It's sad. But that's how bad it gets for some men. Women generally look at this behaviour as if he were some evil, scheming predator. In reality he is a lonely, desperate man who just wants an average woman to desire him and to spend time with and he does not know how to do that any other…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 04:38 PM
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A golden shower
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:11 PM
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Let's not forget that these are straight men. Of course they would be disgusted by the attention of straight men. Gay men, on the other hand, have huge N counts for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:36 PM
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It's still better to have options where the chances of meeting someone exist than having no one where it is near impossible to meet someone. According to PPD census data (someone asking some questions about demographics) most of the women here are in relationships while most men are not. These women have someone. The men are probably lonely by comparison. I doubt these women would trade their options - which led to their relationships - for zero options or loneliness. In a broader sense, I doubt…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:35 PM
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Thing is, most domestic violence in heterosexual couples is reciprocal. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07 But of the non reciprocal types, where one partner is beating another, women are the majority of perpetrators: In 70% of the non-reciprocally violent relationships women were the perpetrators of violence This makes it difficult to assume that the lesbians were mostly victims of men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 02:26 PM
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Having more options and being disgusted with those options is very different from having zero options and being desperate. There is also the fact that straight men would generally be disgusted by the approaches of other men. Look at gay men for a better comparison. They would take more men up on the offer and many have ridiculous N counts. I knew a couple of gay dudes who were in orgies. One even described how he didn't even know the names of the guys he was giving head to. He just loved it so m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:48 AM
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I see. So they can complain about women but they shouldn't make inaccurate generalisations. Only accurate ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:38 AM
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Literally didn't tell anyone to "do" anything. Where did I accuse you of that? If I see the majority of wlw saying the opposite of what OP says, then YES, I'm going to question the validity of the outlining experience that doesn't sound like or look like anything that I've heard from most wlw. I have heard more women and men complaining about dating women, than men and women who date men. I question the validity of your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 06:36 AM
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Certainly doesn't sound like anyone who has had any connection or attachment to the queer community, let alone the lesbian, bi, wlw, and pan section of the community. Really? So a community that prides itself on inclusion is having trouble with a different perspective? Very hetero/male perspective. For someone whose been in the lifestyle since they were 13, they seem utterly clueless and detached from wlw dating. So they must be bisexual in a way that conforms to your view. And here I thought th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:38 AM
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Dudes, the reason we don’t date/marry/reproduce with you is because we do have jobs Here is the truth men! Money matters more than you ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:33 AM
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Because the the majority those posts come from bitter guys who are unsuccessful at dating and they make that very clear. Talking about their dating woes makes them misogynists? Then every time women complain about men and their dating woes, they are being sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 03:27 AM
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Guys are like ten time more easier to please There was a bi dude who shared his experience on this many moons ago on this sub. He said dating a woman is like an elaborate game of chess where you keep trying to figure out what she wants or what will make her happy...with very little guidance. Dating a man is like having a team player in your corner. There are not as many games and they tend to be more direct about what they want. I also saw someone posting elsewhere on Reddit about giving up on w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:59 AM
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Here is one about a woman who tries to be a guy on Tinder: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RCsiNSA7sgs She used her friend's pictures. She tried initiating conversation. She thought she could get a few dates but her self esteem was destroyed within like a week. She couldn't believe how hard it was and she considered the guy reasonably attractive. There is also the book Self-Made Man by Norah Vincent. Go read it when you get a chance (the link is to a transcript of an interview, not the book itself…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/22 12:21 AM
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Because traditionally consent had nothing to do with it. It has always been based on who the child's parents are. Millions of women were forced to support the children of rape but all of a sudden, when it is men, there's an uproar. JFC...no one is supporting the rape of girls and women. What is wrong with you? Are you that afraid of men and boys having a moral point here? You would be justifying the rape of minors because it's just too damn hard to acknowledge that women are at fault and the sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:20 PM
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Happens to little girls too -- getting raped, pressured into having the kid, police do nothing about the rape because "he said she said", and the rapist comes back and gets custody and forces his victim to pay child support. What law allows a man to force his victim to pay child support? She can abort or use safe haven laws to avoid being a parent if she so chooses. How can the guy just come back and "get custody"? And I don't know about your understanding of age of consent, but if it was discov…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 11:10 PM
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Men earn more and occupy more power and leadership roles ACROSS ALL ORGANIZATIONS AND INCOME LEVELS than women. Does this justify the rape of minors and forcing them to pay for kids they were unable to consent to? Does this apex fallacy you are on justify poor behaviour and moral bankruptcy on the part of women? And if it does, why would anyone want women in power when they she shown they are unable to be better actors? Finally, women are the majority voters in the US. They are also the majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:40 PM
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What's worse is she is justifying the rape of minors because some rich white guy has power. Fucking hell. Imagine the outrage if men were telling women that little girls should be forced to give birth to their rape babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:29 PM
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but to protect the child. Nick Olivas was a kid when he was raped. The state doesn't recognize a 14 year old as an adult. He couldn't consent! Where was the best interest argument for him? He was a child! Where was his protection?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:28 PM
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Its rare for men to be raped Unfortunately, this is not true. https://time.com/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers/ In other words, if being made to penetrate someone was counted as rape—and why shouldn’t it be?—then the headlines could have focused on a truly sensational CDC finding: that women rape men as often as men rape women. It's nowhere near as rare as you think. But no one takes it seriously. It's even rarer for minors to be raped. Sure but should we have no laws to make things equal? Even grown m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:26 PM
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Overall, across all income levels and all organizations, men occupy the vast majority of power and leadership roles and own far more money and wealth than women, again across all income levels, even when incorporating the homeless population. Men also die younger, are the majority of homeless, are the majority victims of violence (including domestic violence where most non reciprocal perpetrators are women), they do more dangerous jobs and work longer hours than women... If you blindly look at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:23 PM
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So, I'm interested. How much child support does a minor child pay? Isn't it usually a percentage of his income? He would owe a set amount when he turns 18. Nick Olivas, who was raped by an adult woman when he was 14, owed something like $50k when he turned 18 because she chose to keep the child that resulted from that rape. Also, child support isn't based on whose fault it is, it's based on who is the child's parent. Best interests of the child kinda vanish when that child is a boy. Best interes…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:12 PM
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Wouldn't matter. She needs affirmative consent. Until she gets that, she is on her own. So it is in her best interest to get it as soon as she knows she is pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:07 PM
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If her keeping the baby is dependent on a man she isn't committed or married to saying yes, she may have to raise that kid on her own. She still needs to get consent from him one way or another. She cannot wait until the kid is born and be like "oops, didn't know...tee-hee!". She would still have to ask him if he wants to be involved or not regardless if that kid is going to be born or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 02:06 PM
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If a person is ideological, they tend to believe that things should work a certain way but they don't in reality. They base these beliefs on ideals they have from the values they grew up with or were taught. Some ideological beliefs include: men and women can be "just friends" without anyone catching feelings. It is possible but the conditions required to do so are very specific, such as them not being attractive/attracted to each other, their partners not being jealous or no one having ulterior…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 07:15 AM
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I mean, morbidly obese women have the N counts of average men. Men do lower their standards. Women don't lower theirs. Women seem to think men only want hot models when women are the ones who only desire the top 20% of men. They are projecting. The reason there are so many single people in the SMP is because women do not want to date down, but they are outearning young men around them. Men are also wary of women because their poor behaviour tends to be excused and they never accept any responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:28 AM
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Most women are overweight, entitled and are balls deep in debt. Many are single moms who are poor because of poor decisions. Most women believe themselves to be worth more than the men around them but wouldn't dream of self improvement or to be chaste enough to attract high quality men. If you cannot find a partner, if no man is good enough for you, if it seems like there are only trashy or unattractive men around who don't do it for you, if no man is willing to commit (especially the ones you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 12:24 AM
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This is very ideological. In reality women get to insult men and their sexuality with impunity. Misandry like this is hardly ever addressed in public, in the media or social media. It's an easy way to discredit someone without actually engaging in the discussion. But good luck trying to insult a woman and her sexuality. Calling her a slut in a bid to discredit her isn't going to work. They are not equal. It's the same with mansplaining. It's called being a condescending jerk. There are many wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:16 AM
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A dude shorter and less attractive than the imaginary guy you picture being successful at this is going to try this and fail spectacularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:03 PM
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Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 11:01 PM
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Triggered much? Hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 07:30 AM
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You get told by one dude so every dude must think you are asexual and so every man wouldn't understand the comment... This reminds me of the woman who cut her hair because one creepy guy told her he liked her long hair. She changed something about herself - something she liked - as a knee jerk reaction to one person's opinion. Some serious issues there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:14 AM
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It all blew up eventually and her life was ruined. She hates me for it. I'd love to have her again. 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:11 AM
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...you would still hit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:10 AM
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Fairy nuff but women are catching up to men in terms of infidelity (13% vs men's 20% but it is self reported). Their opportunities for cheating increased when they entered the workplace en masse. I know ppd men love to assert that most men are loyal and loving and it’s just the big mean women not giving them a chance to show it but in reality any man can pump and dump or cheat. When the men here said women were cheating and lying about their past the men were told to stop being insecure and not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:09 AM
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Very few people are actually ugly to me. I'm an average guy, and I see most women my age and it's not their faces that would make me "pass". 9/10 times it's weight. Yeah unless she has something seriously messed up with her, most women can doll themselves up a bit and they are pretty enough that a dude would approach. The largest issue (scuse the pun) is weight. If she is slender it's okay. A little thick, sure. A tad overweight (and it's all in the right areas)? Hubba Hubba! Grossly overweight …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 04:03 AM
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Yeah this shit was controversial when women rated 80% of men as unattractive online.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/22 03:56 AM
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many men will go their entire lives where the gentlest thing they experienced was their mother brushing their hair as a child. I think, more than anything, men wish women would understand this. They know they are creepy and weird. They know their sexuality inconveniences women. They know they are the scum of the Earth in women's eyes. They have already agreed that being an asshole to women is a bad thing. But deep down they wish to feel that gentleness from someone who desires and loves them. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 04:42 PM
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That's because the violence women commit against men is not seen as gendered even when it would be were the genders swapped. Most domestic violence is committed by women. Men are overwhelmingly the victims of violence in general. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07 The bureau wouldn't link it for shit because violence caused by women isn't seen as a form of radicalisation. It's publicly an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:16 AM
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And it never happens to the female spaces? Feminist subs became man hating cesspools as well and they get away with it way more. Let's not forget that FDS started off as a toxic male hating space and it took ages to get quarantined. There is a problem with many subs that don't enforce strict rules. If they don't clamp down on the extreme views immediately they will eventually become dens of villainy and scum. It's like the Nazi bar in town. You have a bar. You don't discriminate. Anyone can buy …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:13 AM
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The problem here is that men not making enough is blamed for marriage rates declining: https://theprint.in/opinion/unmarried-women-us-face-shortage-of-economically-attractive-male-partners/299404/ There are also a record number of singles in the US in absolute and relative terms. So while SOME women are okay (still a minority) with being the primary earner, a man's earning potential is still a major factor in deciding if he is worthy of marriage. The ideal man must earn like 60% above the nation…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 03:40 PM
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It’s called growing up, stepping up and becoming the adult male. Ah, the old man up shame that reinforces gender stereotypes. I wonder how many women would take kindly to men telling them not to be sluts, to be more ladylike and to give up their jobs to raise the kids... Prior generations seemed to get it but modern men (not all) seem to not get the hustle. And here we thought those prior generations of men were oppressing you lot. What with the less pay for equal work, the expectation to be a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 02:21 PM
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This is bullshit. Approaching doesn't mean she walks in and drops her panties, bends over and says "fuck me!". She can approach by just talking to the guy and getting to know him Also, women tend to get better results when they approach. They don't have to approach for sex off the bat. Do women really think that an approach means an approach for sex? When women do approach, do they only do so for sex? Do they never want to start by just having a conversation to see how things go?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:52 PM
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I never said you did. I am asking it because your argument is about everyone wanting to feel special, which removes a lot of nuance. Among them is the power women have in the SMP as well as how their choices affect their partners. So when women want to feel special it places greater burden on men than for women to make men feel special. He not only has to give up pursuing other women, he somehow has to know how to approach, to be her type, be attractive enough and tick enough boxes for a yes. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 01:47 PM
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Dude, you're in fucking reddit in an incel subreddit shitting on someone who thinks rape is wrong. Do you think i give a quarter of a fuck what you think? Then why are you here? Or are you getting off on calling other people rapists? That's pretty rapey in and of itself...
/r/PussyPassDenied09/06/22 12:21 PM
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Don't drink too much or guys will rape you. That's what you're saying? Kinda a fucked up world. I mean, if a guy gets wasted and then gets robbed, the robbers are clearly the assholes. But it happens often enough that making yourself a target is a bad idea. If you walk down a dark alleyway and someone mugs you, especially after it happened to others, people are going to wonder why you did it. Yes, criminals shouldn't be out there doing bad shit to people. But you should also take personal respon…
/r/PussyPassDenied09/06/22 12:18 PM
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EVERYONE wants to feel special, that’s why men here are so adamantly worried that women put out quickly for Chad but make other men wait. Men want a woman who is a slut for them and a prude to others…aka men want to feel special too. It’s human nature and we all want to feel irreplaceable regardless of gender. True but I think OP was talking about choice. In the SMP women have a lot of power and choice. They are often single by choice (until that choice vanishes due to age) and are not the ones …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:43 AM
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women are just as miserable as them and are all being relentlessly used by “Chad”. There was a post here recently that showed that more women considered themselves in a relationship while more men did not. The conclusion was that the men were cheating and these women were sharing the same men (without their knowledge). Additionally, women's happiness has declined greatly over the years. It is even worse than it was in the 1950s/1960s. About 1/4 of women in the US are on some sort of medication f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/22 12:27 AM
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they don’t care who a woman is. They don’t care about her interests, her education, her career, her hobbies, her sociopolitical beliefs, or her goals in life; they care about how she looks. For sex, yes. But women do this to themselves. They offer sex then somehow expect the dude to magically know she has a deep appreciation for art and history when all she did was dress scanty and rub her booty up against a stranger in a bar. But men here and elsewhere have said several times they want someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:28 PM
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And every man who had made a cold approach is a pick up artist? A cold approach is not necessarily trying to get her number while she is walking down the street. It can be trying to make conversation in a book store when you notice she shows interest in the same books you like. It is finding yourself waiting for a bus and smiling at a stranger then seeing if they smile back to initiate a conversation. It is going to some social event and chatting about your favourite hobbies. Women make it seem …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:27 AM
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If the majority of women are saying they don’t want to be approached does that mean most men are unattractive or most men are trying to punch above their weight and are selecting women that are way out of their league? Or women are complaining because they feel entitled to attention only from men who are hot enough and are pissed off that this isn't happening. What's more likely? That she is super hot and cannot walk down the road without stopping traffic? Or she actually thinks she is hotter th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:20 AM
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When men begin routinely approaching ugly women, we can have an honest discussion about “shallow” behavior. Fyi, morbidly obese women have the same partner counts as average men. They have higher sex partner counts than women who weigh less. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6hxr9t/study_shows_morbidly_obese_women_have_the_same/ Men are not just approaching gorgeous models. They tend to have a wider (scuse the pun) taste in women than women do men. So men do "routinely approach …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 12:14 AM
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When books became popular and kids started reading them, parents were freaking out their teens would become stupid. Today we wish kids would read more!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/22 01:11 AM
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There was nothing of substance to counter. It was all mental imagery bullshit angry men like to fed themselves when women seek equality and power. Amazing how mental imagery triggered you into insulting someone instead of engaging in a discussion about the ideas. You cannot be taken seriously if your knee jerk reaction is to freak out every time someone disagrees with your beliefs. I never said equality was bad. I never said women shouldn't do what they want to do. You read all that bullshit int…
/r/PussyPassDenied07/06/22 01:09 AM
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Lmao how to tell everyone you're an insecure cuck who needs to be in a relationship with a blow-up doll, cause anything with intelligence is a threat to you. I love the insecure argument. And the ad hominem attacks. It means you have nothing of actual substance to counter argue with. But please, continue to believe your validation actually matters.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/06/22 12:32 PM
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You hear more about women's rights to work than workers rights to more time off, a better minimum wage and affordable healthcare. The corporations and media especially support this narrative that staying home is slavery because they need the workers. They want women to produce and consume because it nets them bigger profits. It's why women got the right to work the same jobs men do but still have no parental leave. There is big money in feminism promoting a corporate life (a corporate lifestyle)…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/06/22 08:51 AM
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Horseshit. Men here attack gay and bi women mercilessly, and every woman who has admitted being overweight or over 40 is regularly ridiculed and skewered. Dismissed as a non-person. On a debate forum. Filled with people who have issues with each other. Go take a look at mainstream media and society in general. It is acceptable for a woman to shit on men even with little experience dating. Her dating life is not up for discussion and if she went out in public to denounce men as scum for treating …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:27 AM
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Even if a vagina is meant to take a penis, it still will get injuries from rape because rape victims often don't get adequate lubrication in the vagina and vaginas don't stretch or tent to accommodate penises if they don't want the sex. This leads to tearing, bleeding, and abrasions. Vaginas need natural lube that comes from preparation. If vaginas aren't prepared, they need lube products. No one is saying this isn't true. But sodomy is a poor comparison because it implies rape only happening wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 12:18 AM
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No one brings up the potential for women to trick sexual partners more than men who aren’t having sex or partners. It’s like worrying about an avalanche in the middle of Illinois. This! Right here! This is what I was talking about. Here is an example of a man's value being tied to the approval from women. A woman could be a lesbian, manhater or be so unattractive she has no experience with men, and yet her complaints about men would be taken seriously. This would include men's poor behaviour in …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 11:16 PM
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There is far more socially accepted, public misandry spouted in mainstream media, social media, academia and government that it becomes difficult for a boy or a man to avoid. Even if the women he knows aren't like that, there are plenty who either quietly accept the misandry or agree with it. Even the nicest woman will ask "why are men like this?" when one asshole (or the assholes she chooses to date) treats her like dirt. This question is rhetorical but it places other men on the defensive and/…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 03:33 PM
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There is greater depth here. When men are supposed to speak out and seek help they find it difficult to come by. It is not socially acceptable to shit on women. Women are free to talk as much trash as they like about men. A man who complains about his poor romantic life will be called entitled and told to shut up mostly because women feel threatened by the potential conclusions one could draw from his, and others', experiences. These include women being shallow, offering sex easily to some by ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 02:47 PM
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I think the other poster is saying that sodomy is a poor analogy because a vagina is meant to take a penis. An anus needs a lot of lube and preparation. A more apt comparison would be a false rape, a scam or robbery that happens when women do approach men. I know of quite a few cases where women would lead men somewhere and they would get jumped by others. This may not be rape but they would get beaten and robbed. Still a form of assault (battery, actually). So OP should have asked men if they w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 01:37 PM
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But let’s make the women as shifty and undesirable as men who catcall and harass women, shall we? Greasy, ugly, unpredictable and aggressive ogres. So if the dude is hot, it's okay for him to sexually harass or try to rape you? Then you have just defined rape as being forced to have sex with someone you find unattractive, not as a form of assault. If women's complaints about being catcalled and sexually assaulted come down to "he wasn't hot enough" then women are just shallow. And unfortunately …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/22 05:18 AM
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I would LOVE to value men because they provide emotional support or are good companions or are good lovers. Unfortunately I haven't met any men like this. Whenever men complain that they are really nice, amazing men who just cannot find decent women, women tell them to lower their standards. Women tell them they are not vending machines where you insert nice coins and get sex out. Women love to reduce the argument about love and companionship to sex to trivialise men's position. If you cannot ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 05:19 AM
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You have attained cumlightenment!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:49 AM
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There is very little effort put into finding out what women like and making it available. Which is why you would think they would throw a couple of chubby dad bods into the videos if women really wanted them, right? I just watch lesbians cause it’s as close as it’ll get to anything women actually like Which is fine. But women have opportunities to make porn that targets women. They aren't doing it because they generally don't have as active a sex drive as men do. Women will read 50 Shades of Gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/22 03:48 AM
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Dad bods (according to women) are mostly athletic or slightly muscular guys with a bit of chub. Not a skinny guy with a belly or with a BMI of 29. There is BBW porn. There is no BBM porn that women consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:24 PM
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It gets worse! An adult woman can rape a minor, get pregnant, sue for child support and win! Go look at the cases of Hermesmann Vs Sayer and Nick Olivas. In the latter case he was too young to consent. She raped him. She raped a kid. The court says it is in the best interests of the child but not when it's a boy who was raped. It would be called barbaric if a man raped a 15 year old girl, forced her to keep the baby then demanded payment. Olives was thousands in debt in owed child support when h…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen03/06/22 01:18 PM
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69% of the men here are single compared to 37% of the women. I wonder what the posts would have looked like were the reverse true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 03:40 AM
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What’s wrong with that? In the short term, nothing. But there isn't an endless supply of men that women. Women seem like compromising is a dirty word. The long term problems are that they will find it harder to date. The men who are available then stay single longer. Both parties are frustrated. This is not good for anyone if this spreads and becomes a cultural phenomenon. In fact, there are more single people in the US today than ever before, proportionally speaking. Young women outearn young m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:29 PM
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Would you have been ok supporting him for the rest of your life like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:48 PM
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Ask why. Women don't ask why in a genuine sense when men feel threatened by their declaration they don't need them by, for example, saying they are earning their own money. The money isn't the issue. It's being stripped of your role as a provider and then having to figure out how to appeal to a woman. And women are not forthcoming with what they need. Many simply have ridiculous expectations. If it's at the expense of their sex life, I understand why. If men are demanding or begging women to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 11:46 PM
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Not here. They have a serious aversion to it. And any porn use is seen as porn addiction. They are convinced porn use inside of a relationship is tantamount to cheating!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:40 PM
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Yeah men have begun to notice this. Women complain about men objectifying them but women are far harsher by comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:39 PM
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Would you still be with him if he lost his job or you had to support him? Or do you need his pay cheque to afford the lifestyle you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 03:38 PM
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It's because women don't really make room for men any other way. They don't say they need men for anything. They brag about not needing them at all. The one thing a man could be - a provider - is now a dying role as women make their own money (and many price themselves out of the market). This is the exact same as women who have a knee jerk reaction to discussions about men's use of porn. They also feel threatened because it reduces their relevancy. If women said that they wanted men for other t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 02:06 PM
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Ah, modern leftists and feminists, as well as older, bitter women would have you believe it's on him and he is taking advantage of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:53 AM
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On average, men control vastly more wealth and power than women. Apex fallacy. They are also more likely to be homeless, they die younger (on average), and their issues are largely ignored. The great majority of men are comfortable using that power imbalance to try to take advantage of women. No. They want women to want them back. Women are the ones who play games and make sex difficult to get. If tomorrow women said - and meant - kind, respectable men were attractive, they would be falling over…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:52 AM
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Imagine your hormones around your period and how your emotions are running wild. You could be extra horny, extra sensitive or moody. You may find yourself taking it out on others. Generally speaking people are quite understanding. You don't necessarily want to be mean to someone but you are extra grumpy. Imagine that sort of impulsive drive set to Always On in the background. It's not difficult to control it. You just sometimes let it out on a surface level by, say, admiring someone's body and l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 12:05 AM
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I think this needs a deeper discussion. Some men cannot control this and can be taken advantage of. There is enough of a trend of this that we should be teaching our boys to be more aware of when this happens. But it would be the equivalent of telling a teen girl to cover up a bit because there are men who could take advantage of her. The conversation there would insist that men not stare, chance their luck or be creepy. But if a woman leads a man on and uses him, even destroying his life in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 11:54 PM
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Universities allowed women to accuse men without proof. These men were then expelled. They were not allowed to face their accuser. They were denied due process. Eventually, some men found lawyers and sued the universities. They were forced to pay out millions because they violated their rights to a fair "trial". These women could do this anonymously and fuck up a potential career. This started because of the false 1-in-5 study that feminists kept going on about. It made universities change polic…
/r/PussyPassDenied29/05/22 11:43 PM
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Good. Then you and your ilk should stay out of politics.
/r/MensRights28/05/22 03:39 PM
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Many men aren't really too concerned with treating their casual sex partners with respect, or valuing them as humans. There is a solution! Don't fuck someone you don't know. Women can make smarter choices and date men who do respect them and care for them. They can stop fucking narcissists (who are like their kryptonite), assholes and even criminals. They can make sure to only sleep with men who use protection. They can insist on commitment before sex. But good luck convincing women that giving …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:54 PM
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Go ask trans men and female bodybuilders what the testosterone did to their sex drives. Women do have a lower libido than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 01:19 PM
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They need purpose. They need to feel part of a community. They need to socialise. They need mental health support. I saw a statistic that something like 80 or 90% of men who committed suicide actually looked for help before ending it. Something about how we offer them support isn't working. The expectations we place on these men has just become too much. They work too much. They are lonely for too long and expected to just be okay with it. They are rejected by society because they don't fit into…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:27 PM
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This is like saying not all poor black people commit crimes. Of course they can use the argument that they didn't do it, so it makes no sense why others would. Some people do not handle it as well as others. Some people are more resilient than others. Some have mental health issues. Claiming that you didn't do it because you didn't have support means you have the mental and emotional tools and awareness to get by without it, no matter how much you need the support. These guys do not. It's simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:04 PM
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"The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth." - African proverb. Broadly speaking, women tend to receive more support. They can go online and look for help, and someone will sympathise with their position. They can complain about men, relationships, their family and they can get some validation. They can do it on social media and someone will try to provide support. This is excluding support from friends and family, who women can rely upon for help, traditi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:11 PM
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This makes no sense. This “demographic” does not do mass shootings anywhere else. Men are not “uniquely oppressed” in America. Those two points don't seem to support each other. If they are happening within your environment and culture - and not elsewhere - then there is a problem with the way you are treating them. Mental health experts have spoken about these issues for years. Dr Helen Smith wrote a book called Men On Strike in 2013 where she discussed how the US has become so anti-male that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:44 PM
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This is pretty much the first generation where men actually have to make women like them if they want them to stick around. Bullshit. Women have always been free to divorce. They have also always worked. They didn't need men. They chose to be married. They desired marriage more than men because they would have men working for them. Then when they realised families took work they protested and they are now more miserable than women were 6 decades ago. Men already have to prove themselves to women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:46 PM
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Men are not necessarily referring to casual hookups. But rather that you were so turned on and desired them so much, you couldn't wait to sleep with them. If that dude became your husband, then great. But if hubby was the one you made wait for the same sex others got fairly easily, it means you view them differently and in a way men do not appreciate. The guy that is waiting wants you to want him as much and show it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:23 PM
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Sure but I don't think anyone would be thrilled to discover they weren't being treated as well as their partners exes. How many women would be okay with a penny pincher for a husband who previously spoiled his ex girlfriend? Or what if he planned really nice dates and holidays, but you are the one always doing it now? In both instances you may have initially been okay with the arrangement. Because this is how you know them now. But would you be able to continue to see them the same when you disc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 11:21 PM
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. I honestly was all over my boyfriend because I knew our connection right away. The problem is if this doesn't happen with the next guy. This is what messes with men. If you desired the previous guy SO much you had to have him on day 1, but the next guy has to wait...then he is going to wonder if she is as into him. This isn't placing the onus on you specifically, but rather to point out the argument men are making about this issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 12:46 PM
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Sure there is. They can reproach it in other men. Friends dont let friends be fuccbois. Consistent so cial sanctions—that's one of the main ways society progresses over time. This doesn't argue against what the previous poster said. Would it be acceptable for, say, black people to hold other black people to account for crimes they commit? Would it not be seen as racist if white people told them to keep themselves in check? In other words, there is a feature of blackness that causes crime so blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:49 PM
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Not saying they are right. But a little grass does help with the anxiety 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 11:30 PM
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This doesn't exactly disprove anything. Red Pillers maintain that women who are promiscuous make for terrible LTR options. And you are missing the point. Men are saying be consistent. Being principled is actually a good trait to have. Furthermore, using fidelity is a poor argument because of how often people cheat anyway. You also have not taken into account the willingness unattached people have for less committed sex. And why would you NOT want to be with the type of person whom you cannot res…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 08:57 AM
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Y'all love to remove the nuance here. If she did it once, got hurt, learned her lesson and never did it again, then sure. But what happens is she spends her best years being very sexually active, relatively soon after meeting and dating the hot, exciting guys. Then when she is 30, the last fumes of her youth burning out, is when she decides the next guy must wait. All this does is increase the cost of sex for someone whose most valuable physical traits in the SMP are disappearing. This isn't abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:49 AM
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It's no different to women wanting attractive men to give up all their other options and devote their time and resources to them. The reason 50 Shades of Gray was so popular was that the main character was so very bland and average that the average woman could insert herself into the situation or at the very least identify with her. It is the average woman's wet dream to have a filthy rich, tall, white guy so enamored with them that they become the sole focus of their attention. And money. Defin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:58 PM
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They file for divorce. Get some money or some property. They maybe get the kids. They claim they were abused. They get sympathy and support. He gets into debt as he fights to see his kids. If he is lucky he gets a fair split. However, he will still try to fix things and she can use this against him to get even more from him. He agrees to whatever including the house and maybe even alimony (this is becoming rarer unless she gave up her career). I am not saying these women are happy. But whether s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:42 PM
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I mean you guys speak of women giving their sexual best to their boyfriends and husbands, but it's really about being submissive enough to take it up the ass and gag on a dick like a pornstar. Maybe that's adventurous for a lot of you, but that's just vanilla with stale sprinkles if you ask me. Here are some ways a woman can bring her sexual best without gagging on a dick... sensual blowjobs where she edges her partner and denies him an orgasm until he is at his limit before busting an earth sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 02:31 PM
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Women here have made it clear that how he treated previous partners doesn't matter. Only if he treats her right. They don't care about "sexual best" as much as ambition generosity and earning potential in marriage. Money matters more to women than does sex. Otherwise they wouldn't go off sex, leaving so many men sex starved. A woman is perfectly happy to enjoy the benefits of a marriage - security, commitment, financial support - without offering sex in return. She may even complain her husband …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 12:05 PM
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The thing about that situation, is those women have loveless marriages and unhappy lives. I wonder why, though... Quite often they initiate divorce because they feel their husbands are checked out of the relationship. If this were true, it wouldn't be surprising considering the death of intimacy in a marriage would lead to someone checking out. However, when you hear from many men, the divorce papers came seemingly out of nowhere. They thought everything was fine. So they didn't check out as far…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 11:54 AM
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Dear women: if you find the fat girl hot, you can date her. No one is stopping you.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/05/22 11:31 AM
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In a woman's mind her vagina is a resource. The more scarce she makes it, the more valuable it is. So if she claims she rejected 100 guys, it implies she is valuable enough to have that many men want her, and by rejecting all of them, she is displaying higher value due to scarcity. Sexual liberation allowed women better control of the gates to increase, or decrease, the cost of sex as they saw fit. They called it empowerment. But when men reacted to this unregulated market, they (women) complain…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/05/22 01:42 AM
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I think you will see even more single people as women cannot find men wealthy enough for them. Women's misery will continue to increase. Especially as they see more "happy" Instagram and social media couples. Men will continue to be lonely and not much will change for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 01:23 AM
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Young women are outearning young men. Once they reach their mid 30s men start earning more as women choose to stay home with the kids. The married men are also generally going to work harder for promotions. A man is his most productive from his mid 30s to about 50. That and women tend to choose higher earners for marriage so men continue to work hard to get into relationships and to keep them. Few women are okay with him choosing to be the stay at home parent and many women are okay with being t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:55 AM
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To be blunt, men don’t seem to try that hard. They do try hard for women they find attractive, are kind and are pleasant to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:34 PM
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You don't have to have kids, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:19 PM
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No. You have the lifestyle already. If you need him to supply the lifestyle, as in those are the conditions for romance to happen, then you need his money. Needing his money is different to needing him. You are, of course, entitled to whatever standards you want. But the second you mention things like expensive taste, you are going to cop criticism for shallowness just as a man who desires only hot, slender women would be called shallow. If his personality matters, why does the money matter if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 11:18 PM
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It’s not shallow at all. I have expensive tastes. it’s wanting that lifestyle too Yeah, this is shallow. It does not make it better that you can do it for yourself, but you need him to supply the expensive lifestyle you want. Why not just marry someone based off their personality? You are able to supply the lifestyle already. So why does his pay cheque matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:10 PM
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No, that is exactly what YOU did. You literally said (and I quoted then and will quote again) "There are quite a few men who are pro choice and in women's corner when it comes to abortion". You're literally saying that pro-abortion is pro-woman and that's bullshit. But abortion has always been positioned as a woman's right. Not a man's. It has always been spoken about among women and feminists as a woman's bodily autonomy and her choice. They, on several occasions, have told men to stay out of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 11:33 PM
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So in both cases it is seen acceptable to keep the other affected party out of the loop. Feminists were very noisy about consent. But men's consent can be freely violated because to hold women accountable for their poor decisions is oppression. I guess equality does look like tyranny to the privileged.
/r/MensRights18/05/22 02:27 PM
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I am not putting a spin on it. I agree that abortion is killing your baby. Let's not sugar coat it and argue about when life begins or doesn't. We are okay with sending men to die in wars. But even so, women have killed more kids (unborn) than any war has killed men. I am still pro choice because it would be cruel to raise a kid in poverty, as most single moms are poor. Wealthy single moms can still ride it out but they are a tiny minority of a minority. So let the poor kill their babies. I have…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:58 AM
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I agree here. But whenever women enter this discussion they think men want to take their choices away or are threatening their choices all the while ignoring the fact that they remove men's choices in this. If they fear having their choices taken from them because someone else gets to decide whether they are a parent or not, they should at least have some sympathy for men's position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:53 AM
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For men who consent to sex, how are they consenting to parenting? If this is the case then women should be denied abortions if they get pregnant. Is consent to sex consent to parenting? Is it only consent to parenting when it's a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:51 AM
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That's not fair to them. Paying more taxes is not fair to the billionaires who exploit their workers and pay them so little it can never address the social issues higher wages and education could? The rich used to pay 90% of the taxes a century and more ago. That money was used for infrastructure development that allowed more economic opportunities and growth. This argument is a red herring. I wasn't saying the solution to single motherhood was to tax billionaires. I was saying to relieve the st…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:49 AM
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Men know they will be forced to pay, yet they don't 'think twice' about ejaculating in fertile women. I am not arguing in favour of men doing this. I am saying make the laws equal. As much as men are ejaculating into fertile women, fertile women are accepting sperm from men who are not committed. This causes problems for them and their kids. Both people are stupid. However, one of them can choose, after an ejaculation, to terminate the pregnancy. This extra choice is out of a man's hands. If con…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 12:46 AM
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Wouldn't NOT cheating and deceiving someone into parenthood be an important value? And I would think anyone who holds the view that humans are 99.9% genetically similar would be happy to adopt kids and would be okay spending their resources on an affair partner's children as well. All the while staying married to this person so they don't break up the family. Do you really believe women would be ok raising the affair partner's kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:37 PM
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The issue is the betrayal. Otherwise we would see more people who have this point of view adopting kids because they need love. It's not fair to put someone in that situation. They didn't consent to it. Then expecting them to love the kids when they aren't his... that's asking a lot after discovering his wife cheated. He may not hate the kids but they will always be a reminder that his wife desired someone else more and lumped him (not the real dad) with the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:34 PM
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I think the only argument at that point would be that the child is innocent and deserves to be taken care of. This is her responsibility. She chose to have the child. She had all the power here. She is a strong, independent woman who don't need no man. She can put that strong independence to work and earn enough to provide for her and her child. Is a man only good enough when he can pay for her choices? That doesn't seem fair and he shouldn't be punished because of a decision she made, while hid…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:23 PM
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The rest of society picks up the tab anyway because most of the children that are born to single moms are born to poor moms. These men are too poor to pay. The kids grow up and have a greater chance of becoming criminals or single moms, further burdening the state. If women knew men could not be forced to pay it may make them think twice and actually lower the number of single moms around, reducing the impact on the state. Furthermore, if the US only taxed those damn billionaires a bit more, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 04:03 PM
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Sure but men have not had a choice in the matter and women keep insisting men be willing to pick up the tab for a kid they didn't want while still having the choice or power to decide whether that kid even gets to live or not. In the US, women have so much power in terms of reproductive rights that they can rape a minor, get pregnant, sue for child support and win. That kid will be thousands in debt when he is 18. There was a precedent setting case of this in the early 90s called Hermesmann Vs S…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:59 PM
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Generally speaking, it's about choice. Or the illusion of it. If you can have access to sex and relationships at almost any time you desire, you can remove yourself and feel as though there is always a time when you can hop back in. If you have had sex, relationships and offers from others, you can stay single with the comfort of knowing it is there when you want it again. This is great if you are a young woman. Not so if you are a young man or much older woman. If you have never really had sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 11:20 PM
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I don't see how this is Pussy Pass Denied. You shouldn't get too close to female coworkers. The ONLY thing that may save him is if the women were receptive and then changed their minds about it. That's a different story and would be hypocritical of them. But broadly speaking, it's better to keep things as platonic/professional as possible.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/05/22 11:55 PM
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Bullshit. There have been many threads where men highlighted what they desired in a partner. What you and other women are seeing is a reaction to the fact that women only value men for looks and money. Tall, wealthy, fit white guys (and violent thugs, drug dealers and criminals) are at the front of the line. Women offer them easy ass so red pillers figured it's better to be like those men and have options than be lonely. Women have a lot of power in the SMP. If they selected for men based on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 02:21 AM
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it was the worst pussy I have ever tasted. What a way to describe a Tinder hookup. Imagine this was a review. "False advertising. Plus, the worst pussy you ever tasted. 0/10. Would not hook up with again. Avoid like the plague." XD
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:57 PM
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It is very difficult for men to separate their value from how much approval they get from women. A man who is successful with women is generally attractive. That's going to add to his self esteem and improve his self image. This man will also probably have options for partners and being lonely or sexually frustrated is less likely to affect him. These things do weigh on the minds and hearts of less attractive men. Women have also not let men have a choice regarding traditional gender roles in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:54 PM
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That's where all the guys got to do her for free. Hubby gets the privilege of paying for the same (nay, less) sex that hundreds of men just had to show up for!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 02:44 PM
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I think OP is missing the fact that many men go through multiple rejections and it does eat away at their self esteems a bit. After rejection number 100 he could be feeling emotionally exhausted and vent his frustration. The same pattern keeps playing over and over. Why are other men more successful? Why do I always end up as the friend? Why am I ignored by the women around me? Included in the frustration is him trying to make sense of this because the women in his life will generally regard him…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 11:42 PM
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It's also not true. Men are assaulted, mugged and murdered at far higher rates than women. Women are more neurotic about it and expect everything to cater to them because of their feels. If the world cared about men's feelings that much there would never be any incels!
/r/PussyPassDenied11/05/22 02:34 PM
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Ha! Thanks but no one has the patience to read all that. One paragraph isn't enough to cover all the context because there is so much nuance they love to remove when talking about this. For example, they present incels as somehow inherently evil and that's why they are incels. Then you have to point out that no one wants to be involuntarily celibate and they are angry because of all the rejection and factors beyond their control. Then they tell the incels to fuck each other and continue to do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:45 PM
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Media and education. Up to the balls in tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 04:35 AM
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this effectively is saying that your empathy towards your fellow man is reciprocal Most humans don't care about people suffering elsewhere. They tend to have to have gone through the same thing to develop empathy. Furthermore, how we have developed things like trust and trade is through reciprocating. I provide X service you pay me Y in exchange. When dealing with strangers, reciprocation is how we develop trust. Think about dating. If your date makes you pay all the time, never texts but expect…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 12:23 AM
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It uses reports from men who say they were coerced or forced. They also asked women and found that men slightly outnumber women who said they were forced to have sex against their will. If this is a problem, we have to assume women's rape and sexual assault claims are problematic as well. They say so towards the end of the article. Either take the men's as seriously - because every woman somehow knows a woman who has been assaulted or raped - or be more honest about representing the data as unve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 11:32 AM
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Yes. There should be a limit to tolerance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:53 AM
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Nick Olivas. He was 14. She was in her 30s iirc. The one that set the precedent was Hermesmann Vs Sayer in the 90s. The state refuses to pay so these kids are usually thousands in debt when they turn 18. Failure to pay can result in jail time. Everyone is talking about Roe Vs Wade. And it is terrible when the state doesn't care. But it's still seen as barbaric to force women into parenthood while no one cares if the rape victim is a man or boy. At least women had (and in some stats still have) p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 08:43 AM
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Same thing happens to bars. One guy with a Nazi tattoo comes in and starts drinking. You tolerate that shit because he hasn't harmed anyone. He invites his friends. Other customers start leaving because they don't want to be around Nazis. Before you know it, your bar becomes the Nazi bar and you either have to lose your money due to ideology or keep serving the worst kind of people so you can pay your bills. Without someone drawing the line somewhere most ideological communities eventually becom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 04:25 AM
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I would say it is a step in the right direction but still far from where it needs to be. Flip the genders. She can cry rape, have an abortion (where legal), or use a safe haven law to give up parenting. She could use emergency contraceptives as well such as the morning after pill. Or she could wear a copper IUD to make sure none of this even gets that far in case he is a stealthy asshole. She could still accuse him of rape for stealthing and get him into trouble. This makes sense. Reverse the fl…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/05/22 03:40 AM
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So why can't average looking be his type? If he really likes her that should be a good sign and he says he knows her. He is lamenting the fact that she doesn't see that the hotter guys don't want to commit but the average guys are not good enough despite showing more interest than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 11:06 PM
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The dude never said he was throwing her a bone. We cannot delude ourselves into thinking he would somehow have sober beer goggles for her. He likes her despite the fact that she looks average. She probably won't even date him. This is actual proof an average looking woman makes him excited and there's a problem with it because he either has to lie that she is the most beautiful woman in the world or he has to ignore her looks and focus only on her personality. Why can't he acknowledge she is ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 02:31 PM
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Even some women don't know how to get to the orgasm part and they expect their partners to figure it out. Now consider the penis is formed from a clitoris. Try to imagine how much easier an orgasm would happen when you had that much clitoris to play with. Science has shown time and again women do not have the sex drives men do. This is not misogyny. couldn't be that men's ENDLESS need for sex is a behavior that leads to violence and hunger. And women endless need for more money and lifestyle upg…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:10 AM
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PPD seems to think that women are just defective men No. They point out that women tend to use sex like a tool or resource, that women want as much control over it as possible to the detriment of men and that women sabotage relationships because they treat sex as a tool. When women genuinely desire their partners they don't have ulterior motives behind wanting to fuck him. It's when they begin to trade it in exchange for other benefits that men notice this and call women out on what essentially …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 09:04 AM
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There were some posts in the past where people were encouraged to share pics. Most of the men were indeed very average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:44 PM
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And fat women who believe they are attractive are somehow offensive No, they are deluded and they are starting to spread lies about fat being healthy in order to convince themselves and others they are as attractive as someone fitter. because apparently average women should think less of ourselves and be having sex with whoever approaches us. That's not OP's argument nor men's at all. They are saying that women's claims that men overvalue themselves is not true when men, especially average men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:35 PM
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These hypothetical women view you as nothing more than a masturbation tool. They don’t really care for you as a person. Hmmm I really don't see the downside here...if I view her as a masturbation tool it is mutual. At least half of them don’t care about making you orgasm, it’s all about them (you’re a masturbation tool after all). Women shame men for orgasming too soon. Women are the ones who struggle to orgasm but expect men to do all the work and somehow know how to make them cum. Furthermore,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:43 AM
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I think you are confusing the men who desire and get loads of it with the men who are jealous and want more of it. The former tend to be okay with fucking slutty girls. The latter are tired of being left out of the party. The shame part is that she so easily offers sex to men without considering her relationship value. So for sure he will fuck her. But is he gonna wife her up? Probably not. Women see this as a threat and call it shaming when men are saying that opening your legs for Chad on the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:36 AM
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Chad not being for you doesn't remove his status as a desirable man. Are you not able to look at this from outside your perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 04:12 PM
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Because women apply ridiculous standards to both meaning men must work their asses off to get them. It's the slut Vs stud dynamic. Sex is hard for men to get. Getting sex means you are hot stuff as a man. Sex is super easy for women to get. All she has to do is show up and say yes and a cock will be ready. Earning all that sex takes hard work for men, which is admirable. They have to have the money, the height, the looks, the lifestyle. A woman getting sex is not impressive. She doesn't have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:30 PM
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The most desirable men are desirable for a reason. Preselection means if some women want him, others desire him more. Women find taken men more attractive than single men. A man who is hooking up is attractive enough to do it. You claim he is gross and ran through, but someone keeps opening their legs for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:24 PM
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How you can have meaningless sex Ask the transmen and women on testosterone. It clicks once the hormones kick in. When you are hungry, nay, starving, you would eat just about anything. All that matters is getting some nourishment, even if it's a tiny morsel. The sex doesn't have to be more than an urge that needs to be satisfied. Women don't get this because they don't have hormones screaming at them all hours of the day telling them to have sex. At best they get it around period time and usuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 03:22 PM
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Good lord. It's as if mental health, poverty, and substance abuse do not exist. The commune utopia these people think are possible still require someone to do the work. Which means compensating them fairly. Which means some will have more than others. I am by no means saying capitalism is the answer but the underlying issue isn't everyone trying to live a pacifist hippy lifestyle. It's that we need to provide for everyone while still rewarding hard work. A commune utopia will turn into medieval …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 12:09 AM
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You would expect them to champion this cause further than, say, manspreading and lying about domestic violence and rape numbers. What exactly is the plan to liberate everyone from the Patriarchy? Who will enact this plan? What will a non patriarchal society look like? What heavy lifting are women prepared to do for men without expecting anything in return? On that last point consider that men in general have tended to protect, support, provide for and help women, especially those in trouble. Men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:23 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/apr/29/prehistoric-women-were-hunters-and-artists-not-just-mothers-book-reveals The thousand years of oppression feminists like to push is bullshit. Women always had important roles. Many were able to hold positions of power and even ran nations. Many were artists and hunters. In Greece, they could divorce and keep their possessions while men had to cough up spousal support after they split. Many nations held men to a higher standard of responsibility and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:18 PM
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It's not just a strawman, it is a straw mountain. As in, they are making a mountain out of a molehill to discredit your argument. If they can make your point seem ridiculous to the point of absurdity no one will support you. Not saying there isn't any value in tackling a slippery slope but they fear being wrong because it would mean they were being the assholes and they are convinced the other side are the assholes. Imagine a feminist saying sorry to men or women acknowledging that men need equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:56 PM
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Yeah imagine being more cautious about being raped or murdered than about paying for a meal 🤪do you people even listen to yourselves Since you are all about stats, statistically speaking men are far more likely to be victims of assault or murder. And according to the CDC, women rape men as much as men rape women. Statistically, women do more household work than men, thereby forcing women to make sacrifices in their career. Statistically, men work more hours, do more dangerous jobs and women just…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 03:41 AM
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trying to make a blanket statement is difficult. On the one hand this is difficult because happy or at least content couples and families do exist. On the other hand there are also enough horror stories around for people to notice a pattern. It is not unreasonable to tell a man to avoid women like in OP's story but I bet that chubby, 5 foot 8 dude wasn't exactly swimming in vagene before he met his now wife. This is part of the 80/20 rule OP is talking about. I bet what that dude wants more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 02:17 AM
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She will be a hit among the scat lovers.
/r/PussyPassDenied30/04/22 12:35 AM
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Male fertility never drops to the same degree. A man can have babies into old age. But the issue with female fertility is when women realise the biological clock is ticking. That is them noticing the wall approaching. Of course men hit a wall. But the things that are attractive to women - money and status - are able to get men access to younger, more fertile women. These things are also more external factors built upon the man's work or status he was born with. In other words, a man can make him…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/22 02:20 PM
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They need to use it and stop blaming women for their bad behavior. They aren't blaming women for men's bad behaviour. They are blaming women for incentivising it by fucking the worst kinds of men. That dude is still an asshole but she could have chosen a better man to fuck instead. There is your agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 12:22 PM
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So Amber taking a pic of her poop and sending it to him, and admitting to attacking Depp does not count as evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 11:50 PM
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What evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 03:16 PM
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Would you make the same arguments in Cosby's defense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 02:19 PM
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Switch the genders and imagine how a guy who claimed he wasn't punching her just hitting her, hurled emotional abuse at her, shat in her bed and cut off a piece of a finger would be treated even if she was a piece of shit human too. For evidence look at Cardi B who drugged and robbed men at a time when Cosby was sent to jail for drugging and raping women. Even if it wasn't as severe you would think there would be some woke people trying to cancel her for her behaviour, but double standards. Amy …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:37 PM
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recent meta-analysis found that a woman’s perpetration of violence was the strongest predictor of her being a victim of partner violence. When you look deeper you discover that not only is it not men simply beating up their women, it is women starting shit then crying abuse when their men defend themselves. Additionally, these studies (and another from Cambridge) revealed that women are 70% of the perpetrators of non reciprocal (where one partner beats on another who doesn't fight back) domestic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:23 PM
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as if it isn't well known in lesbian circles that violent men have turned many-a-woman. So they were not born lesbian? They were made to desire women? Those women in the LGBTQ community just couldn't get good enough dick from a nice enough guy, huh? /S Most domestic violence is reciprocal. Also from the Cambridge study: In 70% of the non-reciprocally violent relationships women were the perpetrators of violence. So if most of it is reciprocal, and most of the non reciprocal (where one partner be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 12:19 PM
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but I think many people are there to simply appreciate the jaw-dropping beauty that is the female body, and maybe store up some imagery for the spank bank. Thank you. I feel validated. I don't need sex anymore ever XD The strip club is a terrible example because people who go there are still going to want to have sex with someone after they leave. There are also lots of examples of women who hate that they are deadbedroomed and want their partners to have sex with them. It is a need that cannot …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:49 AM
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Have you considered you're confusing emotional needs with sexual needs. I am sure that the men who have sexual needs also have emotional needs. Making it seem as though it is one OR the other invalidates a very difficult experience for lonely men. Of course they want love and companionship. Of course they desire someone who can fulfill their emotional needs. But fulfilling one does not necessarily fulfill the other. Otherwise men and women would marry and be okay with their partner having their …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/22 01:45 AM
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I think the rule of everything is you can get away with anything and still be popular with women if you're rich and handsome enough. Nelson Mandela was a womaniser/serial cheater. No one had an issue with it. He was tall, the leader of his tribe and eventually became the president of South Africa. If you have enough power and status, women will find your philandering charming.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 01:13 PM
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https://trauma.blog.yorku.ca/2018/05/when-male-rape-victims-are-held-accountable-for-child-support/ When Shane Seyer was 12, he was sexually exploited by his 16-year-old babysitter Colleen Hermesmann. She became pregnant with Seyer’s child in 1989 and was charged with statutory rape shortly afterward. Instead of being convicted of rape, Hermesmann was declared a juvenile offender under the non-sexual offence of “contributing to child misconduct.” Seyer was subsequently court-ordered to pay child…
/r/PussyPass23/04/22 11:45 AM
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The women do it too. Some are convinced they are as horny or desire sex as much as men but men just fail at controlling their urges. Female body builders and trans men realise the effect of testosterone and realise that sex becomes almost a need at that point. Norah Vincent explained it from a woman's perspective. She pretended to be a man for 18 months, befriended some men from a bowling club and they eventually went to a strip club. She saw that male sexuality was more like an urge...she could…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 03:32 AM
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She will magically appear and shit on their beds instead!
/r/MensRights21/04/22 11:23 PM
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"Rich love life" does not mean "ton of different partners". It's disturbing to me how many men on here seem to think it does. I mean, if you have many partners who desire you and who you can love, then you have a rich love life. You are defining it as disturbing but to someone who has zero options, the guy who has a different date every other week has a rich love life. Men who are saying this are not saying it from a position of abundance. A rich love life can be represented in different ways. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:42 PM
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It's similar to when women try very hard to imply sex isn't all that. Like why don't men just fuck each other (you will see that as a counter argument here from time to time when men and women talk about sex and who is owed what). It's like the rich telling you money isn't everything. When you don't have it, it's going to be on your mind a lot. Same with sex and intimacy. Women also suffer if they don't get their intimacy needs met (such as being pumped and dumped and angry that men won't commit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 11:32 PM
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So of course the money goes towards the raising of the child. There is no guarantee this happens. On another note, you do realise a woman could rape your boy, get pregnant and sue for child support, right? There has to be an option for some consent here. A woman shouldn't have the kind of power to cause that much harm to someone. Child support is a way for the state to avoid paying for the kids of those single moms. Single motherhood is increasing. It has nothing to do with the wellbeing of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:11 PM
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Losers will say anything to avoid personal responsibility. And they will make excuses for others not taking responsibility. Like claiming the law sucks for rape victims so if a woman rapes a boy and gets pregnant, meh, too bad, eh? Why even bother protecting rape victims in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:08 PM
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You are not addressing their point. You are arguing in bad faith and shifting the goal posts. There are clearly examples of the law being biased and you are ignoring it because it does not favour your narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:06 PM
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The law allows for women to get child support from men and minors they raped. They can rape a boy, get pregnant, and get child support. There needs to be a better balance when women can force people into being parents against their will. If someone forced little girls to do so, it would be seen as barbaric. Additionally, whenever this topic comes up, women insist that men take responsibility in a way they don't have to. It's from a position of privilege. Women have the power to decide if that ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/22 04:04 PM
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This is an example of women misunderstanding how men work. She thinks that by projecting the things she finds attractive in a partner (money and status), she is entitled to the same. She brags about being a busy, wealthy medical resident, mentions her looks a bit then says nothing of her attitude, though we can infer a lot from what she is writing. For someone so intelligent, she cannot figure out why men don't want to be with someone who puts their career first. If she is supposedly so attracti…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen16/04/22 11:46 PM
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men on this sub tend to only focus on sex. it’s like an obsession for them because they see having sex and creating “lineups” as prizes. Intimacy is like having a dinner date with dessert. For lonely men, the starving men, the food thrown out with the trash might be good enough. What you are saying is that they are focused on the eating part and not the ambience of the restaurant, the pleasant conversation, the flirting etc. But that's only if you can afford the restaurant. A starving person is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:54 PM
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She probably wanted to show his pic to someone else to ridicule him or to play the victim card.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 11:08 AM
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First of all who the hell were all these men cheating with? Prostitutes and single women. That's what I thought. Married women made such a stink about their men cheating and the men were quiet about their women cheating. I guess the impression was men were assholes for even looking at other women. When you believed that only men cheated the world was fair and just wasn’t it? No...I never said that. I became a feminist when I was young and equally shat upon asshole men. Then I became redpilled wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:34 AM
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Where does OP mention anyone being pushed or forced? We are talking about how he should feel knowing she changed her mind with her current partner and didn't even talk about it with him. This is going to damage the relationship. It's a shitty thing for her to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:44 PM
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Wait so she can’t decide she hates doing anal? You really don't find the timing suspicious? She enjoyed it for years with others but refuses now without even discussing it. Let's use another example. You want to try something a little more exciting and physically straining than sitting at home and playing video games. You ask your partner to try hiking with you. They refuse. They say they are not interested. A few weeks later you discover pics of them smiling and happy with previous hikers on a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 11:43 PM
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She's trash for lying to him and withholding intimacy she willingly had with others before. These are not traits of a decent human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:51 AM
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Heaven help the man if he has been married a few years, built a life, had kids... Now he has to think about throwing all that away because she lied. Or suffer in silence to keep his family together. I knew a guy like this. For the first year or so of marriage, he and the wife had sex often. She gets pregnant and soon the sex stops. He comes from a religious background and divorce is like the last resort. Sex dries up and his wife gives birth to their daughter. He is essentially deadbedroomed. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:49 AM
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The strangest thing for me was the cheating. She will answer a call from her boyfriend or husband after fucking you and pretend she is out at the store or something. Or you get angry calls a week or so later when he discovers she has been fucking around and she never told you she had a partner. That last part was mind-blowing to me because, in my youth, I genuinely believed men were the ones doing all the cheating. I then kicked it up a notch and decided I was going to flirt with a married woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:25 PM
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Nagger. We're talking about naggers, right?
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/22 11:08 PM
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And I read your comment in dave chapples white gut voice. Now that would be an interesting alter ego...
/r/PussyPassDenied13/04/22 11:07 PM
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This is part of the entitlement women don't see. They shit on men for not getting it but they give very few signals clearly showing their interest and never approach. A man takes the risk and then he gets shot down in the most condescending manner "we are not even in the same solar system!" If women were the ones getting rejected like this they would be getting sympathy and support for it. Hell, when some of them do approach and a guy rejects them they accuse him of being gay! Their fragile egos…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:34 PM
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Those are, ironically, some of the most desired men. Men in uniform, surgeons...but telling women to avoid them isn't going to work. Women love narcissists too so you are not going to convince them to try a nicer man when nice doesn't turn them on. She lists it as the top profession for men to avoid in a partner. A SAHM would only be a profession if she had to study for it or was moving up in a company for it. Who knew that women pulling their weight financially would actually be a good thing? /…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:14 PM
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men absolutely adore it when a woman looks up to him, even if it’s all an act. But is it unreasonable to expect a woman to enjoy the company of her equal? There is some chaos in the SMP because average women do not want average men. She can still admire her very average partner for, say, being masculine, being kind, being supportive, chasing away the bugs that sneak in, making nice food or doing well at a pub quiz night. It doesn't have to be top 20% or nothing. Are women incapable of compromise…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 02:58 PM
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Make it fair. Make money any way you can. Pump and dump your way through hordes of women as young as is legal. If it means ignoring morality so be it. Women do not play fair so you shouldn't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:25 AM
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Heck, I have even talked with 25 to 30 years old girls who are in college or postgraduate students, and their average hobbies tend to be “sleeping, watching social media and going out”. As is tradition, women seek out men who are superior to them. The average woman is as uninteresting and easy to manipulate. But boy do men get it for not being more socially aware, intelligent and richer than their female counterparts. When a woman gets conned and manipulated, she gets sympathy, support and the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 04:42 AM
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Oh yes! Funny, great in bed, loves video games, attentive partner, caring, loves kids, in okay shape... I would dick me down for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 02:56 PM
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Good luck being the one to convince women that fucking strangers is empowering. Feminists have tried it for years and most women hate it because they want relationships. But hey, if you do it, more sluts to pump and dump, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 03:29 PM
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Men what is your view on this relationship dynamic? It's your choice. As long as you feel you are getting good return on what you provide then that's all that matters. I think most women actually like the idea of the setup but are afraid it will mean less freedom for them. Most modern men aren't into controlling their wives and in actual fact, the wives control the husbands, generally speaking. Traditional relationships wants are vilified in feminist spaces. Why? What happened? Am I wrong in my …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 04:49 AM
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A single mom who wants to control men's sexuality using the church for moral justification due to her own past insecurities. She is nuts. And a hypocrite. Even if she's a single mom after a divorce, divorce is very much against Christian morals (unless there are extreme circumstances). If she is a single mom due to premarital sex, she cannot complain about men who want to have fun too. Coaching someone out of porn and sex addiction? Is she a therapist? Because women like this will claim a health…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/04/22 04:17 AM
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Especially if they have little sisters. They instill in their boys it is their duty to protect them (far more than if they had a little brother). It creates the impression that your job as a man is to protect women and girls. It also leads to the false assumption that being willing to provide that protection is an attractive trait. You are doing your duty as a man by being willing to be her protector, so to speak. It is actually more a secondary benefit that is useful when something goes bump in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:35 PM
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i mean i even find myself treaing my female dog better than the male ones at times. No wonder men get accused of having a thing for bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/22 03:19 PM
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The 80/20 rule says the top 20% of men are having sex with most of the women. Not that X amount of men are fathers. This would be a disingenuous strawman. What's worse, you chose fatherhood as evidence that men are getting into relationships and getting laid. You just have to have sex once to get someone pregnant. Bust one nut and you can have a kid in 9 months. This is different to someone being attractive enough to have sex with multiple different partners. According to the census data, 74.7 m…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 12:35 PM
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They did what women do and only then does someone complain about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 11:36 AM
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but there would never be enough hookers to go around. You don't spend all day with her. She can see three clients in a day easily. There are new hookers "born" (turn 18/women who choose to do it) every day. Many of them can work for years. Some, like the retired Fokkens twins, for decades. If they stay in shape and appeal to men's sexuality, they will be in high demand for a long time. Hookers want more clients for more money. If men abandoned relationships and just wanted to pay for a lay, more…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:33 AM
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While a relationship definitely has value, for many men it is a constant performance and not a friendship. What men want and what they get are often different things and they have to compromise to a far greater extent than women have to, to be in a relationship. Bisexual men talk about how dating a man feels like having a team member in your corner. There is a lot more cooperation. But dating women often feels like an elaborate game of chess. You have to constantly prove yourself and have little…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:19 AM
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Was he fucking his mom? Was her love romantic? .... Did he break his arms or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:05 AM
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Did I really need to add /s to the end of my post? r/whoosh How ironic you didn't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 03:00 AM
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You are not listening. This is not something women will ever understand nor are willing to. The fear is there and it isn't going away. If women are not going to get men's position (men are lonely, more likely to be hurt, more likely to die, more likely to commit suicide), using logic and reason to show that women's fear is largely a result of their neuroses isn't going to cut it. You could make the world 100% crime free and safe, and women would still have this fear. It doesn't matter how much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:32 AM
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Individualism plays a big part in this. When you lived in a community or village of people you didn't have to be everything to a partner. You also never had to raise the kids in a nuclear family, which would take a lot of the strain from child rearing away. Grandma, grandpa, uncles, aunts, cousins...they were all there for the kids. This meant parents could spend a little more time taking care of themselves, being productive and being social. It meant there were more people who could be there fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 10:39 AM
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Because as we all know, if you're repulsed by the mere thought of something, you'll immediately like it as soon as you allow someone to pressure you into it. Strawman. Being open to try new things doesn't mean he is proposing you try something repulsive. It may mean a different position, more foreplay or even roleplay. Do women hate sex so much they would not try new things? Why get married if you don't want to try new things with your partner? Do you always eat the same food, in the same place?…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:08 AM
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You mean she can bring herself to orgasm with a partner reliably, without needing to bring her vibrator along?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 12:00 AM
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Sure but why does their experimenting have to come at the cost of others' happiness, social stability and even relationship satisfaction? Women know men don't like hoes. So they hoe around but lie or keep it quiet. Men find out and start playing women's game. They feign commitment and then get sex sooner. Women are then angry they either have to settle for men they deem beneath them or that they have been messed around, but this all started with them. They can fix this tomorrow if they wanted be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 02:06 PM
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Well of course - you're only okay with shitting on people if they do something you disagree with, after all. All they said was "hard pass" in disagreement to you. You're shitting on someone whose values and views you disagree with. Don't be a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 01:53 PM
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The treatment for sex aversion is a complete stop to sex while the averse partner learns to tolerate and then enjoy non-sexual touch from their partner again. There’s no way to achieve that while continuing to engage in the behavior causing the aversion. So, once again, the partner who does not want sex continues to get that while the partner who does want it is left frustrated. In either case someone is left not getting what they want. The sex averse person having to "tolerate" their partner ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/22 03:57 AM
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It still places the onus on the one with the higher libido to fix, which is usually the man. If the low libido partner was as enthusiastic about finding a solution as the high libido one was at wanting sex, you would have a point. Usually, though, the low libido partner coasts along, leaving the ball in the other's court. This is why I said if he is trying, she should be willing to try to. Sexual frequency is part of it, unfortunately. If there are some underlying issues, it requires that she be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:20 PM
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I mean men have to know that after a woman’s vagina or stomach gets ripped open by a child that maybe she won’t want to have sex for a while. Six weeks is what doctors recommend. I have a kid. I asked the wife to wait as long as she was comfortable. Two months later we were back at it. A year is just too long. She spent less time being pregnant. But she didn't stop there. The kid was in kindergarten and they were struggling with this problem. And all the guys that cheat on their wife who just be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:15 PM
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Either due to their partners having small dicks or a weak dick game. Many men absolutely bare responsibility for their womens dissatisfaction… So it's all men's fault. These women cannot communicate their needs like adults or choose better partners. These women cannot do more than lay there while someone else does all the work then complain he isn't good enough. Women are never responsible for their own orgasms and require a man to to the work for them. Women have no agency when it comes to sex.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:56 AM
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Experience builds confidence. Many women here countered arguments like this by saying they can have a lot of sex in a committed relationship. You can still have a very active sex life and gain a lot of experience with only a few partners under your belt. A lot of casual sex is also very bad and many women do not climax. This is a poor way to gain experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:46 AM
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OP is asking why men get blamed for both and the answer is because women are sexist. This is exactly the problem. She can blame him with impunity and it's all his fault sex sucks or they have a dead bedroom. It's never because she gained too much weight, is lazy in bed, is unenthusiastic, unwilling to try new things, uses sex as a tool or is too lazy to initiate. It's never because she has no idea how her body works, cannot communicate her needs well or has desensitized her clit from spending ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 11:43 AM
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Therefore, when a man DOES happen to be an exceptional lover, a woman with a fair amount of sexual experience, much of which is likely to be bad, is going to appreciate him more, because he will compare well, in contrast to many of her unsatisfying sexual memories. But is it necessary to have fucked all those guys in the past to enjoy good sex with a committed partner now? You are arguing about reference. As in they can compare. But that isn't necessary to enjoy a fulfilling sex life. She doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 04:37 AM
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The issue men take with this is that the women who claim to want good men, the women who are not bad (or seem to be at least dateable) are off fucking those guys who are slaying. This means the dude who is a relationship prospect is often away from all the fun hedonism at the start. People are getting married later. Half of the eligible population is off the market at about 30. What are those men and women doing for a decade and a bit? Were they sitting on their hands? Were they taking 5 or 6 ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/22 03:16 AM
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That sub is full of ideological teen girls who fear that any man having a say is going to lead to them being raped and oppressed by the patriarchy.
/r/PussyPass01/04/22 11:51 AM
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But in my opinion, most of the reasons why men struggle is the lack of social skills. I would say it is about 40% social skills, 60% looks. A handsome man who is awkward is still going to get attention and women will romanticise his shyness and make it seem more masculine (stoicism, for example) than what it is. A fat, short, man with bad skin and teeth can be as confident as he wants, he is not going to attract as many women as the shy but handsome guy. The rest you mentioned about looks is spo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:34 AM
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So basically you’re saying there’s only average and “Chad?” What a joke 🤣 You are not leaving room for nuance here. You claimed most of the RP men are above average. Above average men do get hit on and they get laid, usually by average women. A man who is a 6 is probably banging a bunch of 4s. A 7 is nailing a 6 or 5 easily. It is the average man struggling to get the attention. RP teaches these men how to improve. If they were above average they wouldn't be struggling to get female attention. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/22 04:23 AM
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If anything I would say the vast majority of men who take to RP forums are above average and simply frustrated at their minimal success compared to women of equal caliber. I am as Red Pilled as they come, but no way in hell are RP men above average. They are at best very average to below average. RP was designed for men who had a chance, but who were messing up due to poor information. They were fed blue pill and feminist rhetoric about love and relationships as they were growing up and it was a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 11:58 PM
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So you cannot teach him not to hit people or maybe buy him toys that are not guns? These women are idiots.
/r/MensRights30/03/22 12:45 PM
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I think it's harder than that, though. Women gain understanding and support by default. Men have to really be paragons of virtue, exceedingly good looking/high status or have absolutely nothing to lose for their views to come close to counting. A woman can claim she fears men, she can say that men have used or abused her, she can say men are shallow, insecure, unattractive...anything to avoid the reality that women are shallow. Women do not handle the criticism well and have shut down male space…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 11:40 AM
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I don't see why they shouldn't be angry or bitter. But the question is, what do we or do they do about it? I cannot imagine what someone who is losing or has lost everything would be able to care about. Or someone who is poor, marginalised or lonely. Why shouldn't they start a revolt? What point is a society that doesn't help them or care for them? We are happy to tell people that no one owes them anything all the while telling them they dare not do anything despite their desperation. If we don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:58 AM
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Some women secretly enjoy the victimhood narrative because it gets them sympathy and attention. They don't see the contradiction in being strong and independent, yet victims of circumstances ostensibly beyond their control. Barring extremes, a pregnant woman in the west is pregnant by choice no matter what she says.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/03/22 03:36 AM
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Using R Kelly is not a fair representation when the man has money and social power. This is the apex fallacy the other poster was talking about. There really is no hypocrisy. If men who are harassed by women made a big enough stink they’d get the same reaction if they timed it right. So the issue is about timing and not the behaviour itself? Is there no value in noting the media's response to this considering it is supposed to uphold values the culture finds acceptable? I.e. is it more okay for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:48 PM
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Most of time nothing happens. When has a male reporter publicly stated that a head of state gave them an erection? Can we acknowledge though the differences between legal systems They are getting 60% less jail time in the same legal system. What are you talking about? Lol... male reporters do this too. When do male reporters walk into female locker rooms and stand around them while they are half naked while reporting live on air? Have you really seen this happen? As often as women in the male lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:45 PM
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If someone had a ton of ONS they have little experience being committed to someone long enough to really be there when the going gets tough. Yes, exceptions exist. But someone who has been in a relationship for a year or more, or they simply refused short term gratification over more long term gains, is going to be seen as better relationship material. Why? Impulse control! Someone with a lot of casual sex under their belt may get bored with a long term commitment. They are used to chasing the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:20 PM
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This isn't a reliable way to look at it. A woman who belittled and emotionally abused her past boyfriends isn't going to suddenly become a wonderful, kind and patient girlfriend. A man who was lazy and lived on his ex's dime isn't guaranteed to suddenly become hardworking with his new partner. A man who was stingy and was a penny pincher is not necessarily going to be generous after his divorce. The past is a good predictor of the future and while exceptions do exist, they are not reliable indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:34 PM
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Additionally, there is the issue of when hypergamy applies. When she is young and pretty and in shape, she hops from cock to cock on a whim because so many are available. She can fuck as many men as she wants. She may not be as slutty as her friends but she has had a string of short term situationships... Then she gets close to 30 and all of a sudden things like his financial situation, life goals, personality matter. Of course, he should also be tall, good looking and great in bed (but only whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:21 PM
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people are judgemental of others based on their weight. This is true. Even fat people don't want to fuck other fat people. Everything he complained about, unattractive women have complained about as well. However, unattractive women can still get more attention from men than unattractive men can from women. No one is saying that women don't experience this so much as they are saying there is a huge difference in how unattractive men vs women get treated. At least an unattractive woman can get so…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:38 AM
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It's like a baseline requirement for average men. If you are tall and super attractive you can get away with being less confident. If you are average, not having the confidence is going to hurt your chances a lot more than if you had superior genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 06:33 AM
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No, instead they spew the same old "imagine it was a man saying this" line, when women act like coomers. Well, we don't have to imagine, men do say stuff like this all the time. You are missing the point. Imagine the outcome of a man saying the same. You claiming it's creepy is all well and good. But think of how the public and the media would have dealt with a man saying a head of state turned him on. There would be public shame and he may lose his job. This is the hypocrisy men are talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:40 AM
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Thing is, women tend to place the onus on men to fix the decaying bedroom. Even you mentioned the men are like children. Why marry him? And you also mentioned that once your partner, who suffered depression, put in a bit more effort your sex drive came back. You resented him when he was suffering a mental illness. You also had a child (did you have a support network outside of hubby who could help babysit for an hour here or there? Could part of his depression have been due to the missing intima…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:01 PM
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Now, now. No need to ovaryact!
/r/PussyPassDenied24/03/22 12:54 PM
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The CC rider's legs go open and shut. Open and shut. Open and shut. The CC rider's legs go open and shut. All around the town!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:40 AM
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declining sex drive that happens to everyone (yes, everyone) with age. Some people cannot handle it emotionally and start taking it out on their spouse, cheating with younger partners, etc, anything to prove they’ve still got it. Others just stop wanting sex as much or at all. Unfortunately, men's does not decline as much as women's on average. Men tend to still want their wives for years after the wives have gone off sex. Sex therapist (and clinical psychologist) Bettina Arndt ran a little expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/22 11:38 AM
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Shaking his spear, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:46 PM
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This is because men are constantly trying to prove themselves worthy to women. They do not treat themselves as the prize. Women are almost never in the same desperate position as many men. It's also more socially acceptable to shit on men and to take women's complaints seriously. This is why women can smugly proclaim men will fuck a sandwich but forget their forays with cucumbers, carrots, cushions and coke bottles... Women do this to place themselves above men so only the best need apply. If me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 05:21 PM
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A culture of entitlement due to a history of oppression culminating in a group wide mentality of victimhood. It means they believe they can do what they want because the world owes them. It's a form of emotional immaturity because they haven't grasped the reality that life just isn't fair to most people and they aren't more special than others. Is it fair that black people were oppressed? No. But the least you can do now, as an individual, is not commit a crime because you think it will somehow …
/r/PussyPassDenied23/03/22 01:59 PM
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I love how she describes a man who doesn't want to earn more, who is happy being a journalist in his town, lazy. Like she has ambitions of spending his money. It's 2022. Go earn your own goddamn money. Ambition is only sexy to women because it affords them the lifestyle they want. A man who doesn't want to earn more or seek promotion makes her insecure because she fears a loss of social status. So instead of taking responsibility, she shames her man. She won't divorce him. But boy will she shame…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 01:32 PM
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It's not pathetic. Using other people's suffering for attention or personal gain is fucking disgusting. Women get harmed in another country, far away from your cozy little suburb and it's all men's fault where you live. Somehow the men who had nothing to do with it must be held accountable. If that's the case, men volunteering, protecting and building shit for others' benefit should get other men free beers and blowjobs. What's really sickening is that I come from a country where rape and murder…
/r/PussyPassDenied23/03/22 08:50 AM
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She actually got laid! She tried online dating and got a few matches. But she says she became a bit of a misogynist because she realised how shitty it is to date women, because men have to put on a performance while women get away with being very self centered. She thought she knew what women wanted and was very much shocked to discover that most women wanted masculine men, not a man with a woman's mind. She noted that men were suffering and they needed women's help. But women don't care enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 07:52 AM
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Mass debaters. Chronic mass debaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:52 AM
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I would like to call bullshit on this! Norah Vincent made it about 18 months before her mental health had taken a hammering. She eventually declared being a woman was more of a privilege. A woman from England made it about an evening before she demanded special treatment and not actual equality. In fact, the Special Snowflake got the company to change its policy to discriminate against vulnerable men due to the Twitter backlash. And let's not forget that simply because women in other countries s…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:44 AM
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Because they are more sexually available and open to more exciting sex than most other women. I guarantee you most men will take a nice, equally attractive, stable woman if she would fuck his brains out the same way. Also, many men are desperate and will take the sexual attention of a crazy woman over nothing. She's hot AND she wants to deepthroat you? By the time you cum to your senses, she has her hooks in you. If women only knew how lonely men got they would understand why someone who is attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 02:30 PM
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Go ahead and tell me this is too high a standard. You never mentioned any other aspects of masculinity or other traits except "don't be lazy", which would mean most men would appeal to you. So if you are single, then that means there is more to it. It depends how you define masculinity. And women very often get to tell men what masculinity is, while men would be called sexist for telling women what femininity is. If being masculine means being taller than you, being in the kind of shape athletes…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:07 AM
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Since when? If men question women's past they are called insecure and sexist. Men are the ones that have the weight of moral responsibility on them. They are traditionally the ones who are told not to harm women when women can harm men with impunity. Women are complaining because men are rejecting them based on their past and they want the benefits of being whores and then getting high quality husbands when they are done having fun. Men having standards threatens women and makes them feel insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/22 03:02 AM
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After they inflate it, they can stroke it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:14 AM
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PPD men are better looking than I thought lol. The women here would have you believe they are struggling because they are overweight and unattractive. In reality they are very average men operating in a very shallow market.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 08:13 AM
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I think this is more due to opportunity or supply than actual desire. There are far more heterosexual men around than bisexual or lesbian women. And the men are far more okay with her bisexuality than, say, lesbians.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:33 PM
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As I mentioned before it is a symptom. But the breakdown of the family unit is among a contributing factor to a societal collapse. Capitalism is to blame. It funded feminism, a movement based in Marxism, in the 70s to increase the labour supply and lower wages. This led to women revolting against their husbands so they could work for a faceless corporation instead of their families. Work made them free, eh? The problem is that with it came hookup culture as a replacement for the intimacy that hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:19 PM
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Read Sex and Relationships by JD Unwin for a macroscopic view. There is a link between a culture that is sexually liberal and its eventual decline. Life is good for a short while until it isn't. All you need is for the millennials to retire poor and there to be fewer Gen Z kids to fund the pensions for you to have serious issues. There are some values we could have kept while progressing this far, such as unionising, stable communities and delayed gratification, which would have led to a more pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 11:04 PM
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I think the sluts are a symptom not a cause. It's a symptom of hedonism. JD Unwin wrote a book called Sex and Culture where he examined thousands of societies throughout history. He found a link between the sexual liberation of a culture or society and it's eventual decline. Delayed sexual gratification, monogamy/marriage and a society that was more conservative tended to grow and become more successful. The more available sex was the less the men worked, the less educated people became, the mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 10:59 PM
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We will never love you, but we will always love fun. Ah, the truth behind the stat that women initiate 70% of divorces, but unmarried couples have a 50/50 breakup rate....
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 04:08 PM
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Rising costs of living. More empty homes than homeless on the street. Unaffordable housing. Less land ownership, more feudalism style rental properties owned by the wealthy. Birthrate decline. Culture that places profit over people. Culture whose influence is shrinking. An overall decline in happiness. A society that destroys its environment and makes its surroundings uninhabitable. Increased loneliness. Rising number of singletons who are still searching for The One. Fewer families. Smaller com…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:57 PM
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A lot of women will say they “don’t owe you anything” If she knows it is a date the least she can do is offer her attention, especially if she is not paying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 02:24 PM
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Once you start down that road that men and women should be equal except when the shooting starts, you start to abandon principles of equality and start looking for reasons for privilege. I.e. we should deny women some jobs because they are physically unable to do them like men. For example, for women to be firefighters, they have to lower the bar for physical fitness and strength. They do not lower it for men, which is a form of discrimination. It also means women are a burden on the team as men…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 11:17 PM
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because that's the role they've been forced into. No. Women are free to ask men out. They can initiate if they so choose. They just don't want to. Yes, they don't have to. But nothing is stopping them from being more proactive. This is part of the problem. Women can take control of a critical part of dating and not feel like victims of circumstance. But they don't want to. Men are the ones forced into taking a more proactive role. They are the ones who should be thought of as victims of circumst…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:24 PM
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Nah they have a problem with it even if other men waited. I think we are missing the context here. That women pretend they are more chaste than they are, thus lying to the men they are making wait. Of course there will be men who hate waiting. The overarching argument is that making some wait while others get sex with less commitment means she values sex more with partner X and commitment more from Y. The guy who offers commitment also wants sex sooner. It's still on the women to say yay or nay …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:47 AM
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Trying to force you is very different from consenting to sex with some men sooner rather than later.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 10:40 AM
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I know, right? Why bother having a family when you can labour for an uncaring corporation and die alone and childless?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:32 AM
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Nudge nudge, wink wink
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:30 AM
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If men didn't want children, they wouldn't be trying to convince women to become traditional again and have kids ans be housewives. Tradcon men are like a minority. Don't take the arguments by them here as representative of men everywhere. There are far more couples today choosing to be child free. There are more single people in the US than ever before and the birthrate is declining. Men are not trying to convince women to have kids. Women are still the ones who overwhelmingly want children. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 11:29 AM
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Men don't have that option and will be forced to die without children. Women want kids more than men do. Women dont lose no matter how you slice it. Of course. They are going to pick up the slack in doing all the shitty jobs men will refuse to do, they will become the protectors and major tax contributors when men keep checking out of protector and provider roles and women are going to be the new workhorses of society, working for a faceless corporation instead of their families. The new generat…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:42 AM
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I don't know what they are complaining about. There are a lot of single women who cannot find men who earn more than they do and would rather stay single. So, let them. If they cannot find men who are good enough then it's better for these guys to have a string of short term relationships than provide for women who are strong and independent and don't need no man. Or they can spend their money on the occasional escort and get actual bang for their buck. Relationships with entitled women and men …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 03:24 AM
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Feminist physics sounds retarded, but exclusion in the scientific community based on ethnicity or gender is very real, which is what the authors seek to raise awareness of and combat. Then feminist physics is a poor term for it. They could rather run a program to get more people into Stem rather than slapping on a label onto something that has little to do with gender. It seems like they are looking for relevance because they have saturated other areas of academia. Why not call it Diversity in P…
/r/PussyPassDenied10/03/22 09:30 PM
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And the men taller than you that you found attractive did not want kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 05:51 AM
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Glad you enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 11:19 PM
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This doesn't necessarily mean that one sex is more shallow than the other. As per usual, there is a wide distribution among each sex. I would argue that if only a small percentage of the population appeals to you because of looks/height and you cannot get excited at the thought of anyone being less than that, you are more shallow. A man who can only get turned on by a slender blonde with big boobs is more shallow than a man who desires women with different body types/physical features. He cares …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:44 PM
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Crimes, especially violent crimes, have been on the decline since the 80s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_drop Women generally are the majority perpetrators of intimate partner violence: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Half of instances of intimate partner violence …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 10:31 PM
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The tragedy of getting into really good shape is that women start to utterly repulse you as you see then for who they are. The most misogynistic men you will ever meet are those who have been very sexually/romantically successful with them. Those white knights and feminist men who respect women get far less sex and relationships from women compared to abusive assholes. But even nicer men who are successful say the same shit. Women cheat on their partners a lot more than people think. They will l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:43 PM
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If I find him attractive Have you ever found men shorter or physically smaller than you attractive? Have you ever dated them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:13 PM
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Especially to the ones who refuse to acknowledge women's role in creating the mess that is the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 01:31 PM
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You are the exception. When questioned about why they need men taller than them, women will say they don't need him to protect them for real. They say they want to feel protected. If you don't need to feel protected would you be okay with a man who is shorter or physically smaller than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 09:03 AM
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Common denominator here is shitty dudes. And a woman attracted to shitty dudes. Don't remove her agency here. She has plenty of opportunities thrown her way including from men who are not trash. The very least she could do is take accountability here. If she keeps falling for the same types of men who treat her poorly, she is as much the common denominator. The issue is that she finds them hot. And there are few short, ugly guys who can get away with treating women poorly vs tall, good looking o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:31 PM
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If she's so strong and independent she can buy dinner. She is welcome to try the physical labor too. No one is stopping women from entering physically demanding jobs. Don’t gotta make it your personality. But being a woman who is too weak to pay is okay if it's her personality. a man has no excuse earning less than a woman in almost any category. A woman has no excuse earning less than a man in any category.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:35 AM
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It's not some hidden secrete code, no paywall, no unorthodox language. Yeah, no one likes discovering hidden secretes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:51 AM
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It’s so much easier for men to make money How? Just go prove that you’re useful for once. By feeding a freeloader?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 08:49 AM
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Is consent to sex consent to parenting for women? If not, why is it for men? If you apply this logic you will see that offering women abortions but forcing men to be parents against their will means you are not pro choice. It means you are pro female privilege. Why do women need men's money to have kids? They can get jobs and support their own families if they choose. Also, we should change the laws because they violate men's consent to such an extent, women can rape men, get pregnant and get ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 09:42 PM
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They try to explain it that many lesbians are in relationships with men before they realise they like vagina and that explains most of the violence. Except straight and gay men have lower instances of it. The violence increases when women are involved. Furthermore, women are the number 1 perpetrators of non-reciprocal intimate partner violence. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally viol…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/03/22 09:41 PM
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They are arguing in bad faith and grasping at straws. Ignore them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:34 PM
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Oof, I think you may get Penilised for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:33 PM
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It’s just like the definition of homophobia - the fear of men treating you like you treat women. So please explain this then? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-60075906 A woman calls the AA asking for roadside assistance. She gets mad that they treat men and women the same. She tweets that she is more vulnerable as a woman and should take top priority. There is huge backlash and the company is forced to change its policy to discriminate against men. How in the fuck does getting priority in em…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 02:31 PM
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We just don’t need to prioritize their obsession over our own desires anymore For sure. You also don't have to have a functioning relationship if you cannot compromise for your partner's benefit sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:18 PM
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The minority of women who seek out casual sex with only the most attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:16 PM
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The worst part is that it isn't even harassment but the fear of potential harassment that has driven away any and all hope for humans to interact in a way that we always have. Men and women have always and will always seek each other out for sex and relationships. But sex negative women (feminists) in particular have spread fear to such an extent it has caged and controlled male sexuality. Meanwhile, women are hardly ever held accountable to the same extent. I once saw a YouTube video featuring …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:08 PM
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Your argument can be used the other way around. It's very easy for women to ignore the instances where men have had issues after opening up. If you go up this comment chain your question after the guy mentioned opening up about trauma was about how long they were together. You gave this comment more attention than the dude telling you what you claimed you wanted to hear. Or are you going to try to nitpick it into sterility in bad faith? You want men to believe you (women) when you say they hurt …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 08:51 AM
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I suppose it’s a evolutional advantage so that women secure the offspring of emotionally intelligent men who have the capacity to be truly intimate. Ah, the "evolutional" advantage of being part of the growing statistic of single motherhood must be pretty awesome. Sure, she got pumped and dumped. Sure, there was no substantial difference between her having gotten pregnant by a one night stand or a fuck buddy. But boy could he turn her on! He pumped and dumped her even though women swear they get…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:32 AM
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There is 0 benefit to having sex with random men. You ladies keep saying this and yet you keep throwing easy ass at Chad. Would women in general be willing to give up access to casual sex if they were guaranteed commitment from a decent (read: human who is every bit flawed as they are) mam? Would women gladly stay chaste until they found a committed boyfriend? Would they let apps that encourage casual sex like Tinder die in the process? Good luck telling women to stop being hoes. So many of them…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 03:23 AM
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My question is, why don’t men cultivate relationships? I try as much as I can to help my parents and siblings It's difficult because they do make friends as they grow up. But they need a social circle to start somewhere. In other words, people must not find them weird or gross. The men we are talking about can be average to below average in looks and may have personalities that others find off putting. They are just different. They may be introverts. When no one shows interest it becomes hard to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/22 02:27 AM
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Those women want to soothe their short egos by dating men 6 foot tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 10:29 AM
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It's hypocritical. If you don't want to be generalised and held accountable for the actions of others, don't do the same yourself. And mostly importantly, call out members of your group who are behaving poorly. Men did that when they called out the assholes. They not only blame them but they also blame women for falling for their shit. They were then labelled as Nice Guys and ignored and mocked. When do women call out women's poor behaviour? When do they agree with men on their (women's) poor be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:48 AM
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wtf. Now we're supposed to be chad chasers? This is a sharp departure from the previous narrative. No, it is that women claim they love their men then qualify it with "but...". If men openly said their wives were not as attractive as their exes or previous women they fucked but married them for stability, they (wives) would be mad as hell. I mean, a lot of women feel insecure about their men getting off to porn specifically because they can see other women who are younger and hotter than they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:39 PM
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It is the same when men in general are held accountable for the behaviour of a few. A few criminals around? All men are rapists and need to attend mandatory consent classes. Some powerful men exist who run the world? All men are responsible for the patriarchy and enforce it by simply existing. It's not like this is a one sided thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 09:32 PM
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This is my point. The followers say one thing but do another. Claiming it is a religion of peace or love is a falsehood. Similarly, claiming that everyone should be feminist by definition is a fallacy and is just not true. You can be moral without needing religion. You can be for equality without needing feminism.
/r/MensRights03/03/22 09:17 PM
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It's easy. Most men should declare themselves non binary and identify as women. When the military forces them to fight they claim Ukraine is anti LGBTQ. This will place the liberals in a difficult position. Do they support the hot, white mid 30s dude with charisma they see on social media talking about how hard life is? Do they continue to swoon when he talks about fighting back? Do they abandon their principles and fellow left leaning support structures to fight for men who now declare themselv…
/r/MensRights03/03/22 11:31 AM
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Yepp. By definition, everyone should be a feminist. But like a lot of titles these days for people, It’s been tainted. Do not appeal to definition. This is an argumentative fallacy. Because if you are nice to your neighbours and want everyone to live in peace, by definition you could be a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist or any number of belief systems that preach peace and good will. No one should have to be a feminist or anything. You can be an egalitarian if you want genuine equality.
/r/MensRights03/03/22 11:26 AM
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if the roles were reversed I’d bet both of my kidneys that there wouldn’t be a documentary of this and more importantly that this could never happen with opposite genders in the first place. There were news inserts about men scammed online by women and other men. They make the guy send a video of himself jerking off and threaten to send the video to everyone on his contacts including his wife, if they don't pay up. They spend some time researching their targets, such as whether he is married, ha…
/r/PussyPassDenied03/03/22 09:39 AM
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The funny thing is, if women do that, they're shamed by red pill guys for riding the cock carussel. Only in the pillosphere does this happen. Women shame men more on social media and in mainstream media for having standards and for not settling down (Peter Pan syndrome). Women have the space to shit on men for not wanting to settle down and get sympathy for their situations! However, women turn trying everything out into a lifestyle that can only be sustained as long as they are desirable. Once …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 12:00 AM
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That's how actually nature works but we stayed monogamous for something. It's not really practical to have 20 wives, since you'll have to provide and give attention to all of them. It's tiring as fuck lol We stayed monogamous for social stability. Without a firm commitment to one partner, those young women in the village could be popping out anyone's kids. Those kids will need resources. One man could provide resources to multiple wives and kids if he was rich. But this would cause more issues a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 11:27 PM
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The majority of alone men (FA men) and the minority of alone women (FA women) really don't enjoy their lives. And this is key here. There are more men than women feeling alone or lonely. Women can still find someone who shows enough interest to keep them from being alone. They can feign the choice of being alone if there is still the choice of being with an undesirable man. There is still the option to be with someone. With men there is often no one. There is no hope they can upload some pics on…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 10:05 AM
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So you'd apply that argument to men too? If they dont want children they should not have sex? The argument at present is very much that women should not give up sex if they don't want to but men should be willing to. I.e. men are already told they should abstain if they don't want a kid but consent to sex is not consent to parenting for women. If women are okay with abstaining to avoid pregnancy then so should men. But currently the my body, my choice argument works mostly in women's favour but …
/r/MensRights28/02/22 10:43 PM
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If you men can decide they do not want to support the child the woman will either work gor two or she will have to abort. Essentially it would gravely influence the decision making. As long as the gouvernment wouldnt come up with resources one parent would provide to compensate for the father it would pracrically force her to abort or carry the work of 2. So when it forces women to do things they don't want to do, it's a problem. But when it forces men to do things they don't want to do, it isn'…
/r/MensRights28/02/22 02:29 PM
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You have to roll her in flour and aim for the wet spot.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen26/02/22 11:24 AM
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they want to do deviant and violent things that their female partners would never do Women practically run their BDSM communities. They are also more likely to search for violent porn and 50 Shades of Gay was a best seller. Women have more rape fantasies more often than men do. Most men are not interested in violent or taboo sex. They enjoy consent and want to feel desired. Most are going to a hooker because just getting sex is an uphill battle when they can pay someone for it. Women project vio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:03 AM
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Restricting us to that role is why MRP thinks we have to be confined to the shitty first mate role while they get to captain their life the way they want. No one is restricting you to shit. You cannot negotiate attraction. Unless you are okay with dating someone more submissive, shorter and unemployed who you will have to provide for, the second you require any sort of traditional role from a man you are being a hypocrite. Everyone is entitled to their preferences. But you must compromise if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 09:42 PM
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No no. It's because it's a "toxic work environment" that specifically discriminates against them and allows men to walk around, swinging their dicks, dumping a load on those poor, innocent women as they try to prove themselves through hard work and determination. Apparently none of those men earned their degrees fair and square. None of those men were overlooked for promotions. None of those men had their ideas shot down. None of those men had to work overtime to meet deadlines. None of those me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:27 PM
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it's male serving only. Then what's the point of trying to attract a partner if you won't appeal to what they want?! Why not just go to a feminist sub and bitch about men there and avoid dating? If you want a husband you have to be wife material and that means learning how to be the kind of woman a good man will want. What kind of entitlement is this where you don't want to do or be what men want but expect them to do and be what you want? They tell him to make more money, become more powerful, …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:49 PM
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If you had been born with a vagina, you would be on FDS. For a dating strategy sub you would think there would be more success stories depicting how the strategy worked. The fact that women even need the advice to avoid assholes tells us that RP is right about women being unable to make healthy, mature choices about the men they desire. Women swear high and low they would never bother with RP men yet there is a whole sub telling them not to avoid men who won't commit or who just use them for sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:43 PM
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It's amazing how quick women are to shit on men for not wanting to take on an uphill battle that could put them in serious financial debt. Yet they would argue society itself is not doing enough for women and girls, and that there should be fewer obstacles in their way to their paths of success. When the obstacles are in men's way they are somehow supposed to be better at negotiating a system that discriminates against them, and work harder than a woman lying about how her ex abused her and thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:43 PM
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But you said "better boyfriend too". A dude who isn't committing to you cannot be a better boyfriend than someone who is willing to commit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:01 AM
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I used to accidentally speak over my coworkers of both genders all the time. Women don't acknowledge it when men do this to other men because it only matters when it happens to them. But I had plenty of people - men and women - speaking over me at school, at work and in social interactions. I don't blame their gender for it, though, nor claim that it is because I am a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 10:00 AM
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If only the women in gender studies, complaining about a lack of women in STEM, joined STEM degrees instead...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 09:56 AM
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It depends on the country. Dual citizenship between commonwealth nations? No issue. China and other nations? Big no no. If you are under 18 you can have dual passports as some Chinese parents give birth in the US to make it easier for their kids to go to school there. At 18 they must choose one. Either China or the US. Many of the Olympic athletes China had represent them were born and schooled in the US then picked their Chinese citizenship. The CFO of Huawei Meng Wangzhou, who was arrested and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:25 PM
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There are 41 women CEO's in the Fortune 500 - you are trying to tell me that this is not because of gender. Fewer women than men care for these positions. Women also have a preference for male managers. What do you do when there are more men available and only a handful of women? It leads to the same people circling around the companies getting poached. You want this to change? Women need to be ready to do what those men did. Work 80+ hour weeks. Give up on relationships and family. Have a few d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:47 PM
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This is not unique to women. Men get this from men and women too. It's called being a condescending asshole. Women think it is unique to them because they expect better treatment from men that not even men get from other people. There is also an element of solipsism. Many men feel like no one listens to them. Many have had their ideas stolen. But because we don't care to listen to these men (due to issues like status and attractiveness, and women generally get more attention) we overlook instanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:37 PM
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better boyfriend too if I'm being honest. Uh huh... Only issue women will have with this kind of guy is that he has options and is thus gonna be harder to pin down So he is good boyfriend material...but he fucks around. Something about this seems contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:15 AM
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China is, unfortunately, going to have massive issues with much of it's aging population retiring in a decade or so. They do not have enough young people to replace the workforce they will lose nor to pay the taxes for the pensions they need to pay out. Many of the wealthier folk in the cities have a plan B on the west coast of the US. They have another passport (which is against the law), want their kids to study in the US, Australia, New Zealand or Canada and they are taking their money out to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:13 PM
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The problem is that this implies women care about things like virtue, personality traits and social etiquette. But the men who get the most sex are not men who tend to treat women with respect or kindness. Women care more about looks/height, social status and many find men who are risk takers (your bad boys, thugs and criminals) and narcissists irresistible. The school bully has a girlfriend. His victim is socially isolated and contemplating suicide. A CEO could earn 1000 times more than his low…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:37 PM
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No. It's that it should not affect attraction. Women complain that being a high earner or smart hurts their dating prospects and that their work accomplishments should count in their favour. In reality it is that no man available to her is good enough and she still wants someone superior to her. If her changing or choosing her gender roles should not affect attraction, this means a man who, say, wants to be a home maker should not be struggling for love among women who are happy to work. The poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:40 PM
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It's pretty clearly stated that as a society we need to rethink masculinity. If it's done primarily for men's benefit, then sure. We did this for women so they could benefit by having more choices, including being openly misandrist with very little backlash. Women can pick and choose which parts of their gender role they want to hang onto or to ditch. If men can do the same and still be attractive as options to women - ideally without men shaming men for outdated views like women have done to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:05 PM
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Much obliged!
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 11:15 PM
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"our boys are killing themselves!" "Wait, let's make this about girls because they attempt it more and continue to ignore the plight of boys" What you did is the empathy gap in action. It ignores the suffering of boys and places the focus on girls. It doesn't matter if the method they use is more or less successful. What matters is we are not providing them enough support. I am not saying take anything away from girls. Helping them when they need it is important too. But would it kill you or any…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:38 AM
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It isn't pointless. If you are still sexually desirable you still have hope. Then the issue is how do you keep a guy. That's on your personality, values and goals. Regarding the park benches and chicken... it's not like women haven't stuck strange things in them either or rubbed up against things when masturbating. TV remotes, carrots, cucumbers, sofa arms, pillows, hair brush handles, electric tooth brushes, massage chairs, vibrating phones, even live animals... It's easy to create the impressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:25 AM
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Sure but you cannot expect to get a date if you don't put some effort in. The incels can claim looks don't matter but looks matter enough to women that they would reject men for being too short, too fat or too greasy looking. Or are you saying an obese woman can succeed in the dating market if she ignores her looks altogether and hopes some idealistic guy is going to overlook her physical state and commit to her regardless? How does her equivalent (a man who is overweight and ignores his looks) …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:18 AM
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At about age 12 many girls realise they can leverage their sexuality in one way or another for favours from boys. They begin taking steps towards becoming prostitutes. Some realise that it's a bad idea when the boys start expecting more in return. Others go completely down the rabbit hole and realise that having a boyfriend means you never have to work hard at anything. These women have a guy paying for everything. They have men who live to please them. And even if she isn't as entitled it is ve…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 04:22 AM
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Sorry but I cannot let such injustice stand. You are making a mockery of this situation in the worst way and I must challenge your view. Kal-El is a strong, independent man who believes in truth and justice. He experiences the weight of his decision-making by having to consider those around him when he fights or shakes someone's hand. He has to regulate his strength and is otherwise living in a world made of cardboard. One muscle twitch could topple a building and kill hundreds. He spends hours …
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 04:13 AM
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So when the men wanted to commit, she was having fun. The men during her 20s were probably not good enough and she would have argued they were the problem. She would not bear any responsibility because the men were probably all slut shaming incels. Now she wants to settle down and the men around her want to have fun. Now that it is inconvenient for her, it is once again the men to blame. She has to see it this way and she must blame dating for changing or else she would have to do some introspec…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/02/22 03:53 AM
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why is it cheating to make sexual content but not to watch sexual content? You don't interact with the people recorded on the video. You watch them fuck, nut and then go about your day. An OnlyFans digital prostitute sells her content to men, but may also interact and chat to them. She may sext them and even if it is acting, no woman would buy that excuse from a man who is interacting with his fans who pay for his content. The equivalent of a girlfriend having an OnlyFans is a boyfriend who has …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:48 AM
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The taxpayers pay when the children of single moms go on to do poorly at public school, commit crimes and need state assistance to get food or housing. If the women who were choosing to be single moms were wealthy and had support networks, then sure. But it's not like the men who are in this position are well off either. Most of the men tossed in jail for failing to pay are poor. They cannot afford to pay. So either the state has to provide assistance (tax the rich to fund social services people…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:50 AM
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Sure but the law is so skewed that a woman can rape a minor, get pregnant and have him on the hook for child support. There was a precedent setting case in 1993 (iirc) called Hermesman Vs Sayer. It happened to a couple of other boys as well. The case of Nick Olivas is interesting because there was a huge age gap there. She rapes him, forces him to be a dad against his will. We would be aghast if a man forced a girl or a woman to be a parent against their will. We could never use the reasoning th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 05:46 AM
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You are making the same argument incels and blackpillers make. Why bother trying, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:31 AM
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Being a 4 still makes you desirable. Obese, unattractive women still get pregnant from men. They still get attention. What I am saying is play to your strengths and if all you do is take care of your body someone will show interest. The other side of it is money. If you have enough you can get some cosmetic things done like fixing a deviated septum, straightening and whitening teeth or getting a dermatologist to help with bad skin. To give you an indication of what make up can do, have a look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 12:30 AM
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Make up. Get your make up on point. Dress to your body's strengths. Even if all you can do is get thicker thighs, do those damn squats and wear your shorts. Be feminine and girly. Grow your hair out if possible and keep it neat and clean. Be friendly with the men you like. You might not be able to compete with curvier or prettier women but you will be a hell of a lot better off than those obese women with greasy hair and terrible skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:19 PM
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Women should be crystal clear about their expectations then because the stats say women still want men who earn more than they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:29 PM
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I'm not even reading this wall of text. Female leaders in modern times, not like queens from 500 years ago, have been found to be better leaders than male ones. I literally posted modern examples of female leaders being shitty. You are arguing in bad faith. JFC If you want your points to be taken seriously you need to engage with the material and look at the counter arguments. I provided sources and you ignored it because of your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:40 AM
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This is why it is hypocritical when women say men need to be the ones to change things. Women needed men's help in an environment that was anti women. Now when men need help in an environment that is anti men they won't even speak up about the issues. They continue to blame men and tell them to do something about it, but every action men take for men's benefit is sexist if it doesn't benefit women first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:25 PM
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I read that article. It is amazing how when they are the ones shitting on men they don't realise the men have feelings until the shoe is on the other foot. What the trans man will eventually realise is men realised it's a damned if you do, slightly less damned if you don't. A man telling a woman off for being misandrist is going to paint a target on his back. He may even be seen as a threat and she could go to the police and claim he harassed her. And, it was a private conversation on the phone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:22 PM
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I think for the most part, the women in relationships figured it out. However there is a growing number of single people in the US and there is a record number of them already. What men are seeing is that they are not good enough for your average woman and that approaching her anywhere outside of online dating or maybe a social circle is creepy and rapey. What this means is that there is a lot of fear around men showing their interest and they already have it in the backs of their minds that she…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:12 PM
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women shouldn't look for a compromise Just note the hypocrisy here. Men should be willing to compromise for women's benefit by changing so they are more attractive to women and even seek out ways to fix relationship problems. Women are never encouraged to change for men's benefit, not to the same extent. We are happy to tell men struggling in the dating market to chang their entitled, toxic attitudes, to lose weight, get a haircut and learn how to engage with women. RP exists partially because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:23 PM
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All you gotta do is say yes if he asks you out on a date. In the meantime he has to price himself by being taller, earn more, plan clever dates and be willing to protect you if the need arises. If the bar was so low you would be okay with dating someone shorter than you and being the one to protect him in an emergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:18 PM
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So you would be okay with misogyny in other forms of media if its main purpose was to entertain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:09 PM
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Caring about whether they do it or not versus actually listening to it and enjoying it are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 03:08 PM
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Can we just make a sticky? They have to want to fuck you first, though...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:49 PM
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They also seem to think they deserve better treatment than they get because they believe men get what they want. It's the apex fallacy. The men who clean the toilets, lift heavy objects in the warehouse and who get bullied by superiors are invisible to these women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:32 PM
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What? Female leaders were far more likely to go to war than their male counterparts throughout history! And you are saying no female leader has ever been corrupt or harmed others using the power they wield? In India they studied the effects of female political leadership: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/693679 women leaders are neither more nor less effective local politicians than men. Okay so acting like women would mean things stay the same. What about the rest of the world? Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:31 PM
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So none of those are women's fault? Women have no agency? Where are all those strong independent women to take responsibility for the poor decisions that other women made?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:54 PM
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Hey if we were to go down this road, the ladies would need to take a long hard look at themselves for being the majority perpetrators of domestic violence, especially non reciprocal intimate partner violence. Women would also need to acknowledge their tendency to create a breeding ground of criminals by becoming single moms in poverty. Those men who go on to rob others are probably from the home of a single mom. Let's not forget that when it comes to war, women roll over and spread their legs fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 12:52 PM
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I’ve got a degree in childhood education. Shock! So do I! Hello fellow educator. Boys continuously rate theirselves higher than girls in every self-esteem category - from rating their physical appearance, to intelligence, to their talent and abilities. Do they compare themselves to girls or simply give themselves a rating in those surveys? Girls are introspective to a detrimental degree. Have you seen the suicide rates among young boys? Also, women go onto social media and lash out all the time …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 09:13 AM
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Check your facts. Men are far more likely to be the victims of violence. Women are more likely to be helped than men in general. And men do get abducted, kidnapped, tortured and murdered. Look at what happened to the boys that Boko Haram slaughtered. They went into a school, told the girls to go home and burned the boys alive. Their message wasn't getting across because no one cares about black boys so they kidnapped some girls and the US and Canada respond with campaigns to "Bring back our girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:45 PM
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You're just mad and refusing to put yourself in the shoes of a woman who is an easy target for rape or robbery if stuck on her own in the middle of nowhere. This is ironic considering the point of this is about putting yourself in the shoes of others. But women deserve protection more because men are somehow capable of handling violence better? Men are the targets of violence more than women are. They are more vulnerable to harm. Just because you feel vulnerable doesn't mean you get to violate p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:34 PM
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Women go much deeper and more introspective with themselves after rejection than men do. Bullshit. Plenty rejected women take it out on the men. They call them gay, they insult them or they even attack them for not wanting to have sex. And RP exists because men needed introspection. They learned they needed to change. No woman changes for men's benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:32 PM
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It's not innate. Men also fear rejection. They just have to pursue because women won't. No one likes being told they are not good enough. Men do feel it when women say no. The only way a man could not is if he started to dehumanise women and not care about their opinions. This can happen after enough rejections and, incidentally, is how ideas like RP come about. Enough men begin talking about how women are rejecting them and similar themes emerge: height, facial structure, status etc. If men wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:31 PM
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Maybe the high suicide rate is a clue that it's more than just an outside force? Otherwise we would have to acknowledge we are failing men as a society due to the number of suicides among them. If we care enough to campaign for trans people who need help and we believe toxic social attitudes are to blame, we need to be as vigilant regarding what we do to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:11 PM
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You expect women to fight for male comfort but you probably have never helped those with less than you. We aren’t your mommy, it’s time you realise that This wouldn't be so bad if men had not agreed to help you first. Without men you do not have your society, infrastructure and education. Men made way for women so women could enter the workforce, get an education and empower themselves. Men agreed to drop the gender roles so women could choose what they wanted to do. You would expect women would…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:06 PM
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Bruce Jenner turns into a woman and wins woman of the year. Norah Vincent lives life as a man and has to check herself into a mental institution. You want to see more evidence of female privilege, check out the story about the AA in England: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60075906 A woman gets stuck on the roadside. She calls the AA and gets annoyed at them for not prioritising her. She claims she is not seeing equality as in lone men and women drivers are treated the same. The AA points…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:59 PM
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It's not really from a bad place If only they never created the society for cutting up men SCUM. If only one of the founders of gender studies, Sally Miller Gearhart, never said we should maintain men at 10% of the population. If only an assistant dean at Vassar, Catherine Coming, had never said men falsely accused of rape could benefit from the experience, implying they could learn from being potential rapists. If only Twitter hashtags calling for the demise of all men or calling all men rapist…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:50 PM
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She said she became a bit of a misogynist in one interview. She thought she knew what women wanted, a man who thought like a woman. But they actually want masculine men. What made me chuckle was when she says she plucks up the courage to walk across the bar, try to talk to someone and with one word "no" all her hopes are crushed. Yeah, that's how it works. She says no and too bad. You move onto the next one. It was as if women didn't believe there was a human being on the other side capable of f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 02:28 PM
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What oppression has a lonely incel caused a woman who can have a partner? Many of these women have lives that are not too bad. They have privilege incels could only dream of: they can find sex partners easily, they have had relationships and they have social lives. They have support on so many levels that their complaints are taken far more seriously. How is an incel oppressing someone with more privilege than them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:16 AM
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This. "Just be yourself" works as long as you strive to be a better version of yourself. If you see "being yourself" as "not improving" that's on you. But the advice is not "be the best version of yourself". It is be yourself. It does not say you must change. It doesn't mention improvement. And we exist in a culture that tells you that you shouldn't have to change for others. If the advice can be interpreted in different ways and leads to poor results then it is shoddy advice. If you must add nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:35 PM
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Once they discover nuts, they have to bust them!
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/22 11:26 PM
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Have an upvote. It is a knee jerk reaction to white women claiming they deserve more privilege because not being the CEO of a multi billion dollar corporation is the same level of oppression as poor black women (whom they have never met) being abused and oppressed somewhere else, like Africa or the Middle East. They are profiting off the suffering of others.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/22 11:25 PM
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"Your argument is wrong because some women have holes you can't fuck". Amazing how quickly hypocrites resort to sexism and objectification of women when they want to discredit someone's argument.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/22 11:21 PM
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Extra salty.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/02/22 11:18 PM
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I think the other poster is saying that it is far more acceptable for women to be demanding of and critical of men in general. They can do so in mainstream media, in school and in government. These same women who claim men are the reason the world sucks will have boyfriends and husbands. Additionally, there is a lot of hatred among women (feminists) for white men because they have all this money and power. But guess who are the most sought after men? Rich, powerful white men. The anger towards t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:59 PM
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Intersectionality did not come about because feminists cared about how race/race, socioeconomic status, culture, and sexual orientation play a role in stigmatism and discrimination. It came about because white privileged women were being criticized for being racist and dominating discussions about inequality. They are happy to cheer on black single moms from a distance then hop back into their SUVs and return to the leafy suburbs where they can continue to benefit from complaining about how hard…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:33 PM
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This is a key take away. If they are black or Asian it is ok to hate them for being born unattractive to women. But we are apparently all so woke these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:21 PM
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Yeah but when you ask women they have endless horror stories about shitty men they have fucked or dated. They say it's easy to get laid but not to get commitment from the hot guys. They are tired of being pumped and dumped. Many of them enter their 30s looking for a decent guy but none are to be found. So the problem is on both sides. The difference is time. Young women have no foresight and think things will be awesome for as long as they want. Then their biological clocks start ticking... Lowe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:21 AM
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It happens when you have to eat shit from others on a daily basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:49 AM
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It's purposeful ignorance to dismiss a basic human desire. We have lived in communities, partnered up, had babies and relied on each other for hundreds of thousands of years. But yeah, who the fuck needs love, companionship, interaction, stimulation, a family, a community...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:46 AM
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It's simple. It places the responsibility on the shoulders of the incel. It is the Just World Fallacy. The incel is an incel because he did something wrong rather than because women are shallow. It makes it easier for women and bluepillers to deal with it. They can file it away as misogyny and any suffering they experience is justified. The thing that is hypocritical about this is many women are supposedly progressive who would not only scoff at a man for rejecting a woman who is too fat, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:42 AM
4

Probably even less. If you look at how often gay men go at it casually, there aren't as many women messaging men randomly to fuck (for free) in some alley or behind some bushes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:45 PM
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Women have orbiters simping on them, desperate to please them. Those guys would give their left nut to do what it takes to pleasure the women they are offering commitment and dedication to. The men women fuck casually generally are not going to care. And if they are good in bed why would they stick around when you are hole number 69, no different to the others? This is the point the others are making. Women have said here several times that the reason they don't have casual sex is because it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:37 PM
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How do your determine a man is a capable lover without actually fucking him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 09:33 PM
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If women want men to seek affirmative consent by being polite and honest with their communication regarding sex... The least women can do is be polite in return when rejecting an advance.
/r/MensRights13/02/22 04:16 AM
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I think these answers are a bit if a cop out. It ignores the impact of academia and the mainstream media on shaming men into a corner while gleefully deconstructing masculinity. Ideally, yes, no one owes anyone anything. But then you have to consider the attitudes of people demanding from those who they believe owe them one, and have support. Black people today feel white people owe them better treatment just as women feel men owe them better treatment. In both instances there has been governmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:03 PM
1

Abortion debates are rare because they usually aren't productive They usually aren't reproductive either...
/r/MensRights12/02/22 01:23 PM
2

Even without your additions, that list is fucking massive. Holy shit. And all the virtue signalling women who allasudden want a sweet homebody...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:38 AM
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I don't see that on the list. Well spotted!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 08:37 AM
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Some men in the comments here make it sound like a woman should be being approached by men every time she goes out, and if she's not, it means she's not attractive. It's more that women complained so much about being approached they backed off. Now online dating has taken over to the point that it's the number one way that people meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:09 AM
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But people take "be yourself" too far. Be yourself just means... If the advice leads to these sorts of conclusions where everyone can interpret it 100 different ways, it is shitty advice. We know that it's alluding to authenticity. But that is not the same as being attractive, which is what people need in order to be romantically successful. No one told boys to go to the gym, be assertive and to be masculine. They told them to be nice, be non threatening and to use feminine strategies (use your …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:28 PM
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What if he said "well you posted a photo where you were not wearing deliberately baggy clothes... and I could see you had a build so yiu sre just being a tease!"? Quite being a hypocrite. So there is still an element of personal responsibility here. Sure, someone should not be a creep here but common sense dictates you shouldn't make it easy for creeps either. Being attractive means you will attract attention. It is like walking around wearing jewelry and flashing your cash because you finally m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:48 PM
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Fat women have a bar among themselves. But these women are not trying to fuck each other. They are within the female social matrix, which places the most attractive women at the top. The fat women are trying to access the same validation without having to do anything. They want to do what more attractive women do and get complimented by peers in the female social matrix to feel good about themselves. Additionally, women compliment less attractive women because the compliment giver can signal the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:40 AM
12

As if it were that simple. Female solipsism strikes again!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:38 PM
12

Thing is, women value other women's opinions more because impressing a woman is much, much harder than impressing a man. A woman can look very average and a man would still be interested. But if you put in some effort and another woman says you look nice it will be an ego boost. That doesn't mean the men are lying. It's just that the bar women have for attractive is much higher. The downside is that women can be really mean if you don't meet their standards. Men do enjoy the validation from men …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 09:37 PM
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Again, just think outside of the dating realm and it's not remotely hard to see where women do not have it easy. But this is not what the sub or discussions are about. Women don't have to have children if they don't want to and men didn't give them their periods. Men know that periods suck and they never exclude women based on having periods. They may joke about it but they tend to be okay with it if she is extra grumpy because of them. No man lacks empathy because a woman has periods. They lose…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:38 AM
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I might get a raise When you get to work there will be two raises waiting for you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 03:11 PM
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We have laws to protect property first and people second
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:32 PM
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If she is ugly and no one is giving her attention...welcome to a man's world! She now has the privilege to earn the affection of her potential partners. This means developing a personality, losing weight, being more pleasant, dressing more feminine, doing her hair and make up, approaching men for dates, and potentially getting surgery. It sucks that she has to work for love but that's what men must do. Being invisible is one thing. But we have no issue telling men to do better by working on them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 10:06 PM
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Bro rappers sing about gold diggers on the radio. Where do you think you learned all this obscure bullshit if it’s just so hard to talk about? Sure but there is nuance here. They are not declaring all women gold diggers. We are talking about female nature. If they rapped that all women are gold digging whores then went and tweeted about it or went to a talkshow saying women just want money - and got mainstream support from men and women - then you would have a point. To contrast this, imagine Be…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 09:50 PM
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If they have to keep that kinda talk to a bar for it to be acceptable then it is not reflective of a societal belief. If they could take those same talking points to media, academia or politics and gain widespread support then you have an argument. But good luck claiming women are hypergamous and only want men who are superior to them in mainstream media or even social media without some sort of backlash and shame. A woman can publicly declare men as losers or state they would fuck a sandwich an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:37 AM
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So all he has to do is earn more than the average man to attract the average woman. Is that easier than the average woman eating a bit less every day to lose some weight? And there is BBW porn but no BBM porn. I guess those men going nuts over curvy women with huge asses do not count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:34 AM
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Regarding your domestic violence numbers, that study is over 20 years old. Here is a more recent one: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/domestic-violence-is-most-commonly-reciprocal/C5432B0C6F8F61B49A4E2B60B931FA07#:~:text=In%20recent%20years%20researchers%20have,an%20excess%20of%20violent%20women. This one is from 2007 but states similar stuff: https://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/pn.42.15.0031a About half of domestic violence cases are reciproc…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:31 AM
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All the women saying they don't care are either married or imagine they will find someone in the future. The US has hit a record in the number of single people it's ever had before, proportionally speaking. There are now quite a few women who imagined they would be married wondering where their husbands are. I know a few like that already. The divorce rate is still pretty high meaning many of those women will be divorced come their 30s. Most of them will initiate despite claiming they want marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 11:14 AM
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