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Question For MenChadChasingB/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 11:00 PM
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Nothing. Nothing would make me overlook a criminal record.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:33 PM
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I plan on adopting multiple kids, hopefully 4-6.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:12 AM
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Marriage itself doesn't benefit anyone. Only a good partner does that regardless of their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:52 PM
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It would make me instantly not into that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:49 PM
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I would be extremely grossed out if a guy tried to make a 1st kiss into a make out session. You look desperate, sloppy, and lack restraint. No thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:48 PM

It's like a red piller that believes ALWALT and somehow their unicorn is special.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:13 PM
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The only questions I would ask would be if they're a virgin and what are their values towards sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 09:26 PM
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I have never dated outside of my social circle, but I have only ever dated one guy that I considered a friend before dating him. If I like a guy I don't try to befriend him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:32 PM

I don't trust men that have one and I am a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:03 PM
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Are you going to pretend that women on this sub aren't told that they don't have issues, only chase Chad, and should shut up and appreciate that they get any attention when they discuss their dating issues? Really? That's why his argument doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:03 PM
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Being allowed to complain isn't just about technically being allowed, its being allowed to complain without being severely judged within certain circles. "I'm angry that I can't voice my opinions without others being allowed the same right." Would you enjoy being told you're a bigoted asshole because you're complaining about something a man did to you? Probably not because it sucks. I handle my feelings and move on with my life. I only continue interactions with those that I accept and respect. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:49 PM
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I would say that you're blind if you don't think that bigotry is openly accepted and tolerated. Politicians in the US run on the platform of bigotry. Who is stopping it? Who is shutting them down? Who is not allowing them to spew hateful things 24 hours a day? Does everyone agree? No. Does everyone disagree? No, but they're certainly allowed to say it. There is no argument of men aren't allowed to complain when he's here complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:36 PM
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I've had disagreements with my father before when he wasn't giving me enough freedom. My dad doesn't raise his voice, become disrespectful, or ever become physically aggressive. My mom will step in and shut down the conversation if she feels that someone isn't being reasonable. I can't see this ever happening in my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:32 PM
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Absolutely not. I wouldn't wish him ill will, but he would never speak to me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:20 AM
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People validating or agreeing with your opinion has nothing to do with whether men are allowed to complain. No one is stopping you from complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:03 PM
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Do you understand that most people date others UNTIL they find the option that they want monogamy from? They don't go on a date and end up committed immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:21 PM
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I'm 23 and have acquaintances and family friends that are 30ish+ that I'll talk to or have lunch with occasionally. Do I have close friendships with anyone that age that isn't a relative? No, and I have never had any romantic interest in a guy more than 2-3 years older than myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:34 PM
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🤣 I would rather die a virgin that was never allowed to leave my parent's house.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:59 AM
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No, there's over 2 million people. I was always socializing from a very young age through school, sports, charity work, and church.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 10:21 AM
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I always dated within my social circles. I knew their exes, parents, and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 04:10 PM
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This is why I only dated virgins that were waiting for religious reasons and not all virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:49 PM
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It depends on the person. I only dated other virgins for religious reasons and it was a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 01:40 PM

Would l date a man because he says he will treat me this way? No, because words mean nothing. Will I continue seeing a man because be treats me that way? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 11:45 AM
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One is a crime of force committed against others by a specific individual and one is not. We should be promoting all individuals to care for their own mental health and to not insult others. You can't make anyone bond with them, like them, or pretend to feel something that they don't. That's an unfortunate reality. Indifference and a lack of attacks is all that people should expect from society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:24 PM
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😂 Please yell more about words you put into my mouth. I said you can't compare someone not taking action to save you or your own lack to being murdered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 08:02 PM
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You're comparing women being murdered to men not seeking mental health help and nobody else stepping in to save them from themselves? That seems like quite the leap in situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 07:19 PM
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It's illegal to charge for cases of surrogacy in many many cases for that reason and they aren't paid. Surrogacy and being paid are 2 different issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:52 PM
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Why would soliciting a surrogate be a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:31 PM
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I don't really see the point in consequences for either as long as is stays as I don't personally care for sluts/virgins and wouldn't date one. It's a different story when you begin calling for harm against any group of people because they make choices differently than your own. That should involve legal consequences. Otherwise It's meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:59 PM
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It happens. Where are men killed for being virgins? Where do men face anything more than a few rude comments for being virgins? They don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:23 PM
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People do not face consequences for calling women sluts and more or less than people do for virgon shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:05 PM
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Multiple women in the US are murdered in honor killings every year. How many men are murdered for being virgins?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:02 PM
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I am getting married in October. I never said I have a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 09:29 PM
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He said I don't care about slut shaming because I know I am not a slut. Guys are being "virgin shamed" for being seen as losers, not virgins. It wouldn't bother guys if they didn't believe the same about themselves. I live and interact in the secular world with many non religious friends. It only upsets people if you believe that crap. Promiscuous women don't get upset about slut shaming unless they have guilt about having so much sex. They think you're a loser for saying it and defining their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:36 PM
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Their looks and social skills. Their super relaxed demeanor. "Their vibe." That's what the vibe is about. They're out having a good time not necessarily looking for sex or girls, but if it happens then cool. They don't seem like a guy ready to explode, nervous, anxious, awkward, or uncomfortable with wherever the situation is headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:34 PM
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Clearly they do. They're horny, not desperate, and aren't accepting just any guy. He's the guy that pushes them from l'm horny to I am having sex rather than masturbating later.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:28 PM
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Women are usually looking for casual sex and then find the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:24 PM
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Being fun, safe, attractive to her, and putting her at ease will make her let her guard down. If she's looking for casual sex it'll be him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:20 PM
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I don't think it means anything for attraction. Body positivity was about being comfortable with yourself and not being ashamed. It's not you should find this desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:19 PM
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I know many guys that get casual sex constantly. They're all somewhat attractive, but they're also extremely socially competent. They know how to make people feel at ease, draw them in, and they're never awkward. They can read social cues and they're fun. They make women feel like they're safe with them and will have a good time. That's how they get laid. They're not ugly and they have proper social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:13 PM

What is that? It sounds like cavities.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:28 PM
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If it's not shameful then why do men call women sluts? It's the same thing. Men want women to feel bad for having sex on their terms. It doesn't make having sex shameful for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:54 PM
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Do you think women having sex is shameful? It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:51 PM
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You're assuming that it's seen as something shameful by others. I have never seen anyone but other men actually thinking it's a genuine problem rather than an insult to cut at someone. He said he's never been virgin shamed by men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:38 PM
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My boyfriend is also a virgin. He's 26 and everyone knows. He doesn't get virgin shamed because they know it would be pointless. He's proud of waiting for his faith and so am I. You believe that there's something wrong with being a virgin, but there's not, and no one knows if you are one or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:55 PM
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Men trying to sleep with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 04:06 PM
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I have been slut shamed a million times. I'm a virgin. Why do people say it? Because insults are meant to get under your skin. It's the same as the little dick energy or calling a guy a virgin. I've been virgin shamed too and called a prude. I don't care. It doesn't hurt my feelings in the slightest. No one knows your sexual history until you have sex with them or share that information.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:55 PM
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I'm going to say that he wanted it considering that he had been talking about it for years before he met me with exes and with his parents when he was single. When it was a possibility for us he was still not sure that he would want them. He was always leaning more against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:59 PM
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He knew that was an available option. He's not being forced to marry me. He wasn't asked to get a vasectomy. I was going to get my tubes tied instead and he said he wanted to get the surgery. He doesn't feel a need to have biological children and that's fine. It's a personal decision. I am not being forced to marry him either. We made the best decision for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:28 PM
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I can have kids, but I also have a blood cancer that could return at any time and I couldn't receive treatment if I were pregnant. He had this conversation with ex girlfriends and his parents years before he met me. It wasn't an emotional decision. The only reason that he hadn't done it was in case his future wife wanted to have children AND adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:30 PM
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Why is it weird? We both want kids. We don't believe that those kids need to be genetically related to us for them to be our kids. Do you have any idea how many children are up for adoption and need homes? He has amazing genetics. He's a university athlete. That has nothing to do with his decision. We always said we wanted to adopt and MAYBE have a child together naturally, but it wasn't a certainty. Not everyone feels a need to have biological kids. We want kids to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:15 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:20 PM
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No. He was on the fence about biological children before meeting me and has since decided against them. He always wanted to adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 04:24 PM
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It's a sugar a sugar baby without the sex. They can pay for that now.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:42 PM
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My future husband has had one because it would be a terrible idea for me to get pregnant and he didn't want me to have another surgery. He's been tested twice since then to make sure he's sterile. I feel perfectly comfortable with having unprotected sex once we get married. We plan to adopt when we're ready for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:38 PM
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There are insecure good looking men too. They usually have anxiety. I don't find them attractive. I need both in a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:25 PM
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Religious virgin men are looking for the same, not a harem. They have no use for that. Anyone can break commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:22 PM
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I have found him and we're getting married in October. It's hilarious that you assume there aren't good looking guys with options that also have standards and want the same. That's why you vet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 01:26 PM
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This post is why I would never have dated a guy that wasn't a virgin for religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:27 PM
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Indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:39 PM
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Engaged, but no, never chased a guy either. It's a username, not a life synopsis.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:39 PM
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My name was a joke, because Chad is any guy that she finds really attractive, not a meme.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 05:21 PM
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10ish guys without the internet? I met hundreds through school, university, church, work, and friends. That is my social circle. I never used online dating and never met a guy through the internet in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:45 PM

That short unattractive guy is trying to be with a mentally ill woman screwing other men and ignores him. He is his own problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 09:18 PM

What is the message of these stories? It's acceptable to be a guy that chases after people that don't want you and treat you like shit, but it's not okay for a woman? He's no different. That's not hypergamy or female nature. That's people thinking they can get a relationship with that person because they want them and think they belong together despite the other party not wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:36 PM
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Competitive swimmers do usually have wide shoulders and they do work out, but not like gym bros. They're going for very specific muscle groups and not for mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:46 PM
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Most women wouldn't turn down Chris Hemsworth if he were skinny fat. That's a terrible example, but yeah, there are plenty of women that aren't into guys that are that built.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:29 PM
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Swimmers don't do the same training in the gym as gym bros. They have specific exercises to improve their swimming and building specific muscles. That's why they look different. It's way more than body fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:52 PM
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If that were the case they wouldn't have different builds than the gym bros, but they do, even without steroids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:39 PM
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It's not about building muscle. It's defining your natural muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:31 PM
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I prefer guys that are consistently active with athletics as opposed to bodybuilders. It's not the same body. Swimmer's body is a thing for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:16 PM
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I don't think that most women like the look of bodybuilders and steroids. I personally don't, but I do find men that are fit from athletics very attractive. Lean and very toned.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 05:07 PM

No one has the right to put their hands on someone else unless they are being physically attacked. No one has the right to force you to stay in a situation where your emotional needs aren't being met or you feel disrespected. That shouldn't be changed because you want to be able to use force against others in any situation to get your desired results. Walk away and don't associate with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 01:12 PM

I find that out before dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:09 AM

Is it true that he used to be a federal agent? Nm, he said that he did it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 09:22 PM
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There's a difference between compromise and accommodating your partner at times and that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:54 PM
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No one likes a butt kisser or doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 07:37 PM

It's only a date. Schedule them for different days if the first responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:18 PM

Christian virgin waiting for marriage. He should live up to the values of our faith. That's an absolute requirement. Prefer average height or taller, 5'9. Education is important to me and he should have at least a 4 year degree. Be physically attractive to me. I prefer athletic men that play sports. 21-26 for age. I am very extroverted and engaged with a lot of charity work. I would prefer that he does the same, but he needs to have good social skills even if he doesn't do it too. My standards a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:07 AM

I value it, but not more or less than any of my other requirements. There's no possibility of making up for any of them. He's who l actually want or l'd rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:52 AM

Plus one? That could change everything. I'll get back to you on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:50 AM

I won't pretend to like you as a person or fake attraction for money. That's what sex workers do. You can find a sugar baby relationship if you want that situation, but it's not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:48 AM

No, not for any amount of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 10:00 PM
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I would expect a rental lease in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 11:33 AM
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Wanting people to have sex with you is equally as sinful as having sex according to the Bible. Those guys OP is talking about want to have sex and are upset that promiscuous women are judging their virginity and holding it against them. They are equally as sinful in the eyes of God. Being a virgin is only virtuous if you are waiting for marriage under religion. Being a virgin in itself means nothing good or bad. They're not judging virgin men choosing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 11:19 PM
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Or maybe you'd like to ignore those verses about lusting after a woman being equal to committing the sin of adultery, making those virgins the same as promiscuous women? That's not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:25 PM
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Do you count religious preachers in "mind their own business" as well? Literally open up your religious texts and read it. There is shaming written there of all sorts of behaviors, and oh no, there are even "fear tactics" used, like the mention of punishment! Can you tell me where in the new testament of the Bible it says should slut shame people, because I can tell you about 50 verses that say don't judge until you fix your own mess and love everyone. Are we just going to pretend that Mary Magd…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:19 PM
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Become religious and then mind their own business. Problem solved. They can get their equally virgin partner. Shaming people that they don't want for existing? No, just as I don't slut shame men that sleep around. Sexual shaming is sexual shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:50 PM
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Because these men are not religious. They're self proclaimed incels screaming that they should get a virgjn because they are one, but only because they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 08:40 PM

3 years ago he was still with his ex wife and happily married. He had no relationship with his dad and had sued him for millions of dollars after kicking him out at 16. He mentions September of last year as when he got sick and his colon ruptured. That's what? Most likely 2 years or so since they first separated? In 2 years all of that happened where he's goes from happily married, to divorced, to remarried, and now his dad is back and they're fine after 8 years of not speaking, kicked out, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:46 PM

I'm pretty sure that guy is a total larp.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 04:02 PM

Again, you're wanting to make up a story that suits your ideas. You have no idea what their relationship was like before or after their biological kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:37 PM

She was with that guy before she had kids and had been a single mother for several years before getting with Brad Pitt. You have no idea what she was like as a person or a gf. You want to make a story that suits your idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:32 PM

She adopted her kids before him and her surgery was so she wouldn't die like her mother after she showed the same gene for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:27 PM
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I love and value all of the men in my personal life. They wouldn't be close to me otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:44 PM
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As in I have met multiple Christian virgins that have met my other preferences to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:22 PM
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I am a virgin that was looking for a guy that shares my beliefs. We're getting married in October.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:12 PM
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It's roughly 176cms. I am that height and it's for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:10 PM
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Must be a Christian virgin waiting for marriage Age: less than 3 years difference of my own Education: at least a 4 year degree Body: athletic Attractice face Height: 5'9+ I don't care about income or race. My requirements have had no issue being met.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:56 PM
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I am so sorry that he lied to you. That's heartbreaking and of course it hurts. Honestly, I would leave in your position. His vows were not meant in good faith. You can't build a life together on a lie. I hope that you can work out what is right for your heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:04 PM
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I don't actively fear men, but I don't trust them or give them the benefit of the doubt either. I don't fear being robbed, but I don't wear visible diamond jewelry at 3am at a nightclub alone either. Trust is earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:56 AM
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Some things do indicate much less attraction, like what the OP describes. It's why I will only marry a virgin as a virgin too. I'm not accepting less than what I want. Would you stay with or want a man that makes you feel less valued in any way? I would hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 11:52 AM
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I am leaving if my partner isn't giving me what I need, for any aspect, in a relationship. There's no pouting or worry about what he did or didn't do for an ex. None of that matters to my relationship. No one is telling men to stay in relationships where their needs aren't met either. People are saying that no one is entitled to a behaviour because someone did it in the past. They are not the same thing and no woman is entitled to any sexual behaviour because her partner did it in the past eithe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:59 AM
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Social circles, school, work, church, or other hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 07:13 PM

It comes across like you're asking what will my presence buy from you in ADDITION to you providing the same things to me. This isn't a question that normal people ask, because it shows that you don't value the relationship as something that stands alone to be wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 02:12 PM

You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:58 PM

It's not "effortless", but that effort isn't work either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:41 PM

That doesn't seem to be the norm for ppd men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:01 PM

I hope that you can both reach a healthier place in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:51 PM

You're welcome!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:41 PM

Absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:41 PM

I think there are a lot of people that romanticize mental illness and codependency as "true love".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:38 PM

That's not part of a healthy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:55 PM

100% and that doesn't include the mental illnesses you see where people threaten suicide or have massive breakdowns and you're only dating. That's a massive red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:29 PM

Why would i want a GF that her happiness didn't hinge on the relationship? Seems indifferent. Remember that when she's unhappy with you. That's your fault too for not being enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:23 PM

Happy Mother's Day to all of the PPD moms!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:06 PM

Q4All: Would you be comfortable with a relationship where your partner's mental stability and happiness hinged on your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:04 PM
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Morals are important to me, but also for own life. Do people look down on others that also engage in the same behaviours as themselves? Probably not. Do you have any evidence that these girls chasing "bad boys" aren't the same types of people? I haven't seen any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 06:06 PM

I have the best dad in the entire world and he raised me to expect the best from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:12 PM
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JP also says that women are right if they're avoiding those men and that they're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:48 PM
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Sugar babies have to be paid, not taken on dates. Women don't pretend to date as sugar babies. It is always transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:25 PM
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Sugar babies are prostitutes, not gfs or dates, or relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:12 PM
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You do realize that if men stopped dating these women that "the problem" would solve itself. They're sugar babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:39 PM
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None of this matters because no one is forcing you to date them. These women telling women to use men for money are no different than red pillers saying use these women for sex and not commitment. There's people that suck on both sides. Don't date them. It's not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 01:26 PM
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hinges on women's ability to trust the man for whom she feels a mixture of fear and exhilaration towards. I am not dating a man that makes me feel any level of fear. That's how you end up with a restraining order against you. I wouldn't date a man that has this kink. The need to be dominant in a relationship tells me that you have no power in or over your own life. That's not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 10:57 AM
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I've dated co-workers multiple times. It depends on the policy at the business more than anything. Some places ban all workplace relationships or even flirting. Those rules should be respected if you don’t want to lose your job.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:49 PM
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Intellectual disabilities
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:08 PM
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It's mandatory for marrying me. He is not getting my family's assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:03 PM
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That's almost as unbelievable as the post earlier about attractive guys getting passed over for "homely looking assholes".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:14 AM
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Only celebrities and super models are now getting laid? That's shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:11 AM
2

When did physically attractive men begin getting treated as if they were invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 01:03 AM
1

I'm not shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:55 AM
4

Men could say no too and they choose not to do that. That's not inequality. Everyone has equal opportunity to ask out, accept, or refuse a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:10 AM
37

There's a story of a guy and I think he's from the UK. He's autistic and searched how to make friends. He was charged. No, it wasn't for "approaching". He did this twice to the same girl. He waited until she was in a secluded area, never said a word, and put his hands on her. She ran away both times and told him to stay away from her. That is not approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:58 PM
5

No, not really. I think if anything it comes from a fear of rejection or is a bad attempt at manipulation. Not in a "nice guy" secretly an ass kind of way, but she has no reason to not like me now kind of way. Neither of these are a niceness issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:48 PM
5

For being nice? No. For never having his own opinion, being passive, and always saying what he thinks I want to hear? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:32 PM
1

It's the men that can't get relationships or casual sex that mainly hate it. These are the same men that have to make a million reasons why it's everyone else's fault but their own too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:15 PM
1

I don't believe that it's only a small minority. I have seen many men say that if they can't have casual sex then women shouldn't be able to have casual sex, because it's not fair. Many men that have slept around also seem to feel an entitlement to a virgin wife, "because it's different". I don't think it matter what a woman chooses to do, because she's a bitch to someone either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:09 PM
5

Generally furious and jealous if they're not able to participate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:03 PM
-4

My brothers never struggled to have girls interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 02:29 PM

Any standard is legitimate. I only dated virgins waiting for marriage. Is your standard realistic? That's only your problem too if it's not and you can't find that partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 01:55 PM
5

Paranoia or weird behaviour. Those sites existing and women subscribing doesn't show any sort of rate that they're dating the same guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 03:23 PM
1

I feel for her, but this isn't a case of trying to have it all. She's upset because of a divorce settlement and that was her last realistic chance at pregnancy because of multiple factors. Can you have it all if one spouse decides they no longer want the same dream and leave? No, but I don't see men or women claiming that is having it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 10:11 AM
5

It's also wrong to choose a promiscuous woman and then justify cheating for your past failures. That's not her fault and you want to her to be punished with a cheater and possibly exposed to stds because you failed earlier? Hell no. Choose a non promiscuous woman. You can't get one? You're the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:40 PM
5

Yes, and my partner had to be a virgin intentionally waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:24 PM
6

A woman should choose to wait to not end up with an admitted sexual failure with no morals that chooses to cheat? I don't think so. You choose not to see a prostitute despite your "suffering". You choose to commit to promiscuous women too. You're looking for reasons to justify your behaviour. This is why l only dated virgins. I can't deal with hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:58 PM
8

Yes, but she doesn't want to feel like the woman you settled for and wants the same experiences. That doesn't mean she doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:45 PM
1

Maybe she's a gay man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 04:23 PM
3

Okay, best of luck to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 07:03 PM
2

because if I'm too upfront about my intentions, they will always say they don't know what they want now or in the future This is a polite way of saying no. Be upfront and take that as a no and a yes as a yes. If they say yes ask them to pick a day and time that works for them. It leaves it in their court. If they say they're busy it means no. If they eagerly plan a date it means yes. If a woman isn't equally participating and reciprocating in physical contact take it as a no and back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:56 PM
2

It might have not been you, but a past experience for her and she now believes that is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 06:50 PM
2

Many people don't want to be tied down in a relationship or to be in a relationship with someone they don't want. If you're saying that the top 20% are all sleeping around they would identify as single not in the other 40%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:57 PM

Are you talking about love or relationships? You can love someone that you know is a toxic POS and you can't be with them because of it. That doesn't change their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:49 PM
1

You make the first move with guys? I am definitely not afraid to make the first move. I've met many people that I was interested in initially. I also approached a few of them. If l was potentially interested in them l would ask them to hang out and do something with my group of friends to get to know them better or out for coffee/tea. I never tried to befriend them. There was interest or there wasn't. I don't do fake friendships, waiting for him to decide if he likes me to make a move, or using …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:08 PM
2

Even single single, not dating anyone, l don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:56 PM
2

First of all we've been together for longer than 9 months, we're engaged, and it's not for him. I don't want guys waiting around for some chance that's never going to happen. If I am interested in a guy l will tell him, not befriend him. I have friends many guy friends and they're not potential opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:44 PM
2

From what I read it was the same in America with something like 1/3 of brides already being pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:37 PM
5

Wouldn't those guys be in the 63% listed as single??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:23 PM
5

I don't befriend any guy that has shown interest in me. I don't have a need for friendships that aren't based in real friendship. Girls that keep guys on the back burner will do the same to you. Don't expect them to change for your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:06 PM
2

A lot of them are from bastard bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 05:51 PM
3

Exactly this!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:57 PM
11

This isn't historically true. Birth and marriage records exist. source Almost half of births in 1852, more than 40%, were conceived before marriage. More than 60% in Scotland.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 03:30 PM
1

I was tested for it, but for a friend. We weren't a match. I would have done it for anyone that I love. Now I can't because I was diagnosed with cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:08 PM
1

Extremely weird. It's my house. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 12:01 PM
1

We looked through several sites online for wedding vows. We're also writing a small piece ourselves, but all of the vows listed there are an important part of our Christian faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:12 PM
1

We consider them to be more accurately worded.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:47 PM
1

They're actually not custom vows. They're a set of traditional vows that mean the same things, but they're worded differently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:46 PM
1

He's stuck by my side through cancer. He's an amazing beautiful soul. I don't think there's any chance that he could ever do something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:52 PM
1

We're getting married in October. These are the vows that we have decided to use for our wedding. I believe in you, the person you will grow to be and the couple we will be together. With my whole heart, I take you as mine, acknowledging and accepting your faults and strengths, as you do mine. I promise to be faithful and supportive and to always make our family's love and happiness my priority. I vow to have the patience that love demands, to speak when words are needed and to share in the sile…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 06:03 PM
3

Becky's responsibility to her marriage and husband was tell him how she was feeling BEFORE it happened. Now she needs other people to hold her accountable? Hell no. So, imo, it’s less about expecting your partner to never choose things that hurt you, and more about whether they’ll recognize they’ve hurt you, own up to their mistakes, and make choices to assure that it never happens again. She didn't. She got caught. That's totally different. She took no accountability until it was forced upon he…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:32 PM
7

A man that helps without being asked is a sexy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 03:08 PM
1

They might believe that, but it's not true, and there's also "forsaking all others."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 02:52 PM
5

You said something important. or not caring about your partner enough to put their feelings before your own desires, which aren’t things that can be solved or forgiven. That is what they did in your example. Their unresolved trauma doesn't make their actions not a choice. They chose to put their own desire for validation from others or their own feelings of wanting to feel loved above their relationship/partner when they cheated. They didn't seek counseling and talk to their partner about how to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 02:50 PM
4

That's a decent income for that if you own a house and have no debt. If you have 3m in debt for a mortgage it's not great.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:54 PM

Boyfriend. He's priceless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:47 PM

Neither of us care.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:44 PM
4

What do you consider an income that can afford a "luxurious lifestyle"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:28 PM
1

That's covered under love, honour, and cherish. If you break that vow it's grounds for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 12:25 PM
2

He's a teen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:23 AM
1

Not being the most important doesn't make physical attraction any less of a requirement. Most women have multiple requirements for their partner, but physical attraction is definitely one of them if they're not asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 11:13 AM
2

It also says the exact same for men and a whole lot more. People love to pick and choose what they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:58 AM
2

Oh no, as far as I am concerned this type of man can burn in hell before he is ever allowed near me again. It is absolutely a fundamental character flaw that you can make all of these decisions to hurt your partner and then expect them to work past the trauma that YOU caused to accept you again. No thank you. You don't accidentally stumble into sex, physical assault, drug addiction, or anything else. The point of marriage is to promise to do everything you can to keep the love alive and to not g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 10:29 AM

You're a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:56 PM
2

You seem very nice. That's a very unexpected and nice change to see here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:34 PM
6

That is an extremely unfortunate circumstance and I empathize with you. I went through a fight with cancer recently and it really does make things complicated. I hope that you're receiving good care and are in the best place that you can be health wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:38 PM
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That's not really typical. You should continue to make new friends and connections throughout your life. Your circle would be smaller, but it shouldn't be nonexistent. You should have married friends and be invited to events and parties. It doesn't simply end.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:36 PM
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Uh in person is heavily dependent on having an existing network. You are 100% correct. Why don't these men have existing social networks? Where are their friends? Where are the people they go out with and meet new people through them? You have some kind of social issues if you don't have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:55 PM
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I asked you where these younger women are meeting guys if it's not on apps. You quoted the ratio and now say on apps and then say they're using them for validation and not meeting them. Where are these girls meeting the guys they're dating if it's not on these apps? Colleges have more women in them now than ever before. Most ladies are not interested in guys are not in college. So, when you go to a college that is 70/30 not like there are enough guys in the social circles. Your social circle sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:53 PM

But they were unattractive fat women. Do you have no sympathy for the 6'2 shredded male model that can only get fat unattractive women?? It's that bad out there!! 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:53 PM

Not even the numbers. He's complaining that even attractive guys are struggling to get dates or attention from attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:45 PM
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That applies to social media as well, where even a shredded 6’2” model gets only a hundred or so likes and comments and almost entirely from unattractive, overweight or trashy women. Meanwhile a barely above average woman throws some makeup on and racks up hundreds, even thousands of likes, heart reacts and comments from men and women alike gushing about how unbelievably beautiful they are. From OP on the this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:34 PM
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There are 0 other options! None! Zilch! You can't meet people out, through friends, at school, through church, sports, clubs, work, or anything else. It's an app or nothing! If you're fortunate enough to have a female give you attention she's ugly and overweight. You, the 6'2 male model, get nothing compared to the average woman with make up! Nothing!! The struggle is real! Acknowledge their struggle, Lift!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:29 PM
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Where are these young girls filled with options when not using apps or social circles? I am 23. Everyone l know dates from our social circles. People looking on apps generally want a ons or they have no one in their lives that would date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:08 PM
1

People using profiles of models and getting 3-4 likes a day when a women who is a 3-4 gets 3x4 times that. OLD is mostly men with some areas having up to 80+% of their user base being men. Of course the small amount of women are getting more attention compared to a larger pool of men. Most people aren't dating through apps. I would say that's the biggest struggle. They're dating through social circles and meeting people while out with them or through them. You're screwed if you're relying on app…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:12 PM
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demonstrably false as even attractive men with loads of personality struggle They don't. Attractive men do not struggle unless they're ND.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 01:00 PM
5

I can't judge anyone's reaction without knowing what the insecurity was about. Everyone should have boundaries, but not every feeling or thought needs support and engagement. Your friends would be right if you felt that her response was lacking after saying something like other girls don't stare at me and it makes me feel unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:34 PM
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I don't have a height standard, but I have never been attracted to a guy shorter than myself. They've ranged from 5'9-6'6. I don't find the 6'6 guy more attractive than the guy that's 5'9.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 12:22 PM
1

Does B reject him or his advances?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 11:19 AM
5

It's pretty weird how many people think that people can't be genuine friends despite someone being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:08 PM

They do, but they also involve talking about the things that trouble you in order to be worked on by both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:06 PM

Don't ignore them or hope they correct themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:03 PM

She doesn't need to lord it over you to feel that way. Feelings are not the same as actions, but her actions do include commenting negatively on men that earn less. She was apparently open about it concerning her brother in law. Stuff that makes me feel she's above me is when she tells me to clean my room like she's my mother or something, its like, dude, its my room. That's exactly what she's doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:00 PM

You need to decide if you're okay with that, but I wouldn't be okay with my partner ever feeling like they're above me. Her actions don't control her views either. She can be "the woman" to you and still view you as submissive or below her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:51 PM

What does keeping it to yourself mean? I would talk to my parents, grandparents, or pastors if I felt that I needed help with something in my relationship. Gossiping or casually talking about it with friends? Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:40 PM

She views men like a red pilled man view women, but you're now the woman. She sees herself as above men that make less. Make of that what you will, but I wouldn't tolerate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:37 PM

It's not a problem for anyone I know. We all hang out multiple times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:11 PM

I want to know how this comes up between friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:09 PM
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Not true. If they keep you alone, they also keep someone else alone. If there's a population of 5 guys and 5 girls, and one of the girls has impossible preferences, only 8 people will have partners, not 9. How is this my problem? Who said or thinks there's an obligation to have a partner at all? Relationships are not a participation trophy for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:52 AM
1

I agree with you,, but no one wants to be an unpaid "employee". If men really want to "lead and be the boss" they would have to provide that at a minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 07:09 AM
1

I hope you find him!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:12 PM
1

Being only friends is a weird concept for some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:38 PM
41

All preferences are fair when no one is forced to accept anyone they don't want. At worst your preferences keep you alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 09:37 PM
1

With that logic your gay/bi friends may be orbiters. Your being straight doesn't stop them from being attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:20 PM
1

I did when I said he needs to live up to our religious values.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:11 PM
3

Apparently many men on here think that's all men that have any female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 06:05 PM
12

Men in the comments. Her being in a relationship or not interested doesn't matter or make a difference. He's still an orbiter somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:56 PM
12

Doesn't matter if he's straight and not interested anymore so than a woman being in a relationship or not interested. No sexual attraction or interest means no regardless of the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:52 PM
1

If a man isn't paying 100% for EVERY thing and giving her money then no deal. People don't pay bills with their own money at their job and they don't work for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 05:47 PM
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Do men think that any gay or bi male friend is secretly waiting for the chance to date or have sex with them based on this same logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:45 PM
7

If he's trying to have sex then we have different values and are not compatible. That's the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:30 PM
11

It absolutely works that way. Either you think every single man is ugly or all men are secretly gay for that to be true. You know when someone is objectively attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:27 PM
1

Like if he was a virgin for religious reasons he probably wouldn't have too much relationship experience either We don't marry the first person we date. We date to find the right partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:26 PM
3

That means nothing to me. He has to be a virgin for religious reasons or there's no chance of any relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:23 PM
10

Many of my guy friends are physically attractive. That doesn't mean I find them sexually attractive or want them. It means they're objectively attractive people. Finding someone attractive doesn't equal wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:18 PM
7

Different people have different values. It's the same with men choosing partners. Some won't care about her body count and others will care. For me he has to be a virgin waiting for religious reasons. He can't be someone that has tried and failed and I don't want a partner that doesn't have experience with relationships in his mid 20's when I am looking for "the one".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 02:14 PM
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They're not waiting for a chance because they're not single and they know that there is none. That's not an orbiter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:53 PM
6

If works men should do. Men also shouldn't complain when their "employee" is sending out resumes and telling their company secrets at that point either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:41 PM
19

Almost all of my guy friends are in relationships and I make it very clear that I am not interested in anything else with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:18 PM
14

Obviously I want a man that I find attractive, but that doesn't equal Hollywood good looks. He has to share the same religious values as myself, genuinely want to live them, and enjoy church. I really love my church and being involved with it. I want a man that loves me as much as l love him and puts as much effort into our relationship. Has emotional intelligence, maturity, and stability. You need those things to maintain a relationship. Has great social skills, including being good with kids, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:03 PM
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None of mine are on this list and would cost too many points. Thankfully he still exists! 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 11:48 AM

Sorry, not true, but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 09:17 PM
3

It makes perfect sense if you think of women as property and sex as something they shouldn't want or "give" to men. It makes far less sense when they call women broken locks and yet still complain that a single woman only accepts 1-2% of keys. Seems like the locks work just fine or these pills wouldn't exist. They have also never heard of rekeying a lock.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 07:23 PM
1

The topic is deciding that women pick assholes because he sees those traits and he mentions them from beginning to end in his post. Those traits are not bad and do not define an asshole. His definition of nice is being respectful of boundaries, not vulgar, humble, mild mannered, and apparently quiet. Not a single one of those things has a thing to do with being nice. You can be a raging asshole and do all of those things too. What are these "assholes" actually doing? Discussing sex with people t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:56 PM
1

Yeah, the difference between being nice and the guys that he sees with women, or him flat out calling them assholes. None of these traits make someone a good person or an asshole and it's ridiculous to present them as an argument that they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:34 PM
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It has nothing to do with what I said. But if anything it is more protection your original fallacy to be honest. Being an asshole is not about being extroverted or confident. It IS how the OP described them, not me. It's not my fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 05:26 PM
8

Same to you!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 04:08 PM
5

I have several great male friends that are extremely attractive. Do they have quirks, habits, or differing views that would be deal breakers for me in a relationship that don't apply to a friendship? Yes. That's why they're friends and not a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:36 PM
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1 in 4 young women (aged 15-24 years) who have been in a relationship will have already experienced violence by an intimate partner by the time they reach their mid-twenties. Men need to change. I am one of those women. I have been on over 100 dates. I have been in 3 relationships and I am now engaged to a wonderful man. I am not going to blame those that didn't hurt me and never tried for the actions of one drunk asshole that decided to punch me. I am not going to blame the multiple men at that…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 01:49 PM

I have shy introverted friends of both genders. They're wonderful people and that's why we're friends. I tend to go out with my extroverted friends with group activities more. They're more comfortable with it, but I have no negative opinions of shy people. The only thing I will say is that interacting less in person with others makes it harder to meet potential partners and those types of people are less likely to advertise themselves on social media or dating sites. That is lowering their odds …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 12:35 PM
1

Extroverted, confident, or loud people are not assholes by default and more shy quiet people are not nice by default. Being an asshole has nothing to do with those things. It's behaviours related to the treatment of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:43 AM
1

It's not hard depending on your social circles. I grew up with more conservative religious circles and most of my friends have also made the choice to wait until marriage. I never used online dating or anything like that. I imagine it would be much more difficult trying to find someone like that by chance randomly in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:38 AM
2

OP is a guy asking, not a woman trying to avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 10:33 PM
10

I would tell her to live how she sees fit. She might want casual sex or to wait for marriage. The right guy for her, an actual high value male in her world, is going to be the one that doesn't judge her for it and they can develop a happy healthy relationship. I personally am waiting for marriage, but no man is ever going to be high value to me if he's slut shaming other women or trying to have sex. Women seeking casual sex aren't being pumped and dumped. If you're having sex at 3 dates it's sti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:29 PM
3

I think there's a lot of things happening here. What do the women you're referring to define as nice, respectful, or whatever? Do women say that that they value that trait above everything else? I can only give you my perspective on it. Do I want a genuinely good nice guy? Yes, I do. Is it the bare minimum? No, he has has to have other qualities. I, and most people, are not dating a person for being nice on its own. I understand that, but it doesn't justify the fact that guys who seem genuine wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:16 PM
1

I wouldn't care if he was bi, but l wouldn't be with a man that has a sexual history of any kind. Attraction is not controllable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 09:02 PM
1

The OP very clearly stated having no kids, but go off. No, someone shouldn't be responsible for more bills by default only because they received an education and earn far more. There's 0 reason that a couple without kids can't do 50/50 living within the lower partner's income, unless that person doesn't make enough to support themselves independently. I wouldn't be with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:13 AM
11

You either live within her means or you pay and don't complain. You're making the choice to be with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 10:27 PM
2

There's nothing you could do in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:39 PM
16

50/50 and live within the lower partners financial means.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 05:21 PM
0

He must have similar views on things that are important to me or there can't be any relationship. That's 100% a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:49 PM

I am waiting for marriage. What does that mean? It means waiting until after marriage rather than waiting for the guy I will marry. He also has to be intentionally waiting for marriage. To me, this is akin to going to an ice cream shop and asking for a sample. The store clerk gives you a sample and then you ask to buy it and he tells you it's not for sale. Except a more accurate analogy would be that there was a sign that said "No ice cream for sale here" on the front doors. If she only wants a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:42 PM
27

I'd move on with my life. Narcissists hate not being special.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:35 PM
4

A man has no obligation to stay or to leave you, but you will be left to deal with the baggage. Do you want a man that values you? Don't settle for less than that, because he doesn't respect you if he expects you to change your values for him. That makes their opinion irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:15 PM
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There is no consequence for either one except for shaming, which most definitely goes both ways. You can't expect one side to "be better" because you only want it to be one sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 08:31 PM
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A single mom that got knocked up twice and married a drug addict AFTER he started abusing her. #goals
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 02:22 PM
23

But what are some good modern female role models in your opinion? SPECIFICALLY in terms of relationships, not just "good human being", "accomplished writer" or "good mother" way. Michelle Obama
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:00 PM
15

"Good luck with your cats and your future inkwell. Why would any man give a crap about what you want when he has options??" If that man has desirable options he wouldn't be upset about your preferences excluding him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 10:16 AM
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Model a healthy relationship the same way that my parents and his parents have done for us. Keep him involved socially and physically with athletics. Encourage him to try new things and to not be afraid of failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:20 PM
3

Wolves don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:11 PM
4

Like the wolves you mentioned in another comment. Most wolves in a pack don't get a mate. The dominant pair breed, not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:10 PM

You can have whatever standards you want. I want a guy that's a virgin waiting for marriage. No, I don't care if a man thinks that I am supposed to admire his sleeping around. No, I don't care if a man wants to say that other women want him. Shut up, go get those girls, and leave me alone. You're free to chase women that value that experience, but you don't get to tell me that I need to feel the same. It goes the same for men too. Nobody is worth more or less because they had sex, but nobody has…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:06 PM
2

Would you look down on someone because of their family or if they don't want you to meet their family for several reasons? Would l look down on them? No, there wouldn't be a moral judgment of them because of their family dynamics. Would l date them? No, because I want children. I wouldn't intentionally Invite toxicity or cut off half of their family when it could be avoided.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:09 PM
2

Yes, there are fat men saying that. Fat men complain a lot about women not wanting them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:51 PM
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Most guys are fat there too. Seems unreasonable for them to want healthy weight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:46 PM
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He wants someone at least average looking. That knocks the lower half. He wants someone not promiscuous when the average n count is 7 for women. 70% of Americans are overweight and 40% are obese. Yes, he is most definitely not searching for the average. That doesn't include no children or a healthy diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:26 PM
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I wouldn't call 40% of people rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:59 PM
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Almost 56% of Europe is also overweight, so l think you might like overweight people and not realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:42 PM
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Average girl next door in the US is 5'4, 170lbs, and has an n count of 7. I hope that's average enough, because that is the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:39 PM
1

Hahaha, you lie all over the internet and then get butthurt that no one believes your bullshit. Okay? No, no one believed that you had a prenup and no one believes that you have a wife and kids either.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:20 PM
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Is this the same 16 year old wife that somehow magically signed a prenup with a weight clause in it? That wouldn't be legal. Minors can't sign prenups and parents can't sign for them. Either of your lawyers would have explained that to you if any of this shit that you say is real. Do you understand that? That's why her parents had to sign for her to get married. You just said that they had no problem signing them. She couldn't enter into a legal contract of marriage without them. They couldn't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 07:09 PM
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Of course the guy that thinks it's appropriate for grown ass men to have sex with children in school says "aBuSe". Yes, it's child abuse and her parents should have never allowed it. Did it take much to convince them to sign the papers?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 06:22 PM
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No one is asking you to change them, but understand that it's not average and you are now looking for an above average girl that probably also has higher standards. She's not going to change them either and has no reason to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:52 PM
15

That's going automatically be an above average woman. You want someone in the top 30% of weight in most countries
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:44 PM
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It's no different for guys. They're not talking about promiscuous women, women ugly, fat women, single moms, drug addicts, or unemployed losers when they say they can't find a woman. They can't find someone that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:52 PM

What kind of parents sign papers to let their 16 year old get married to a 27 year old? That is child abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:49 PM
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I'm 23 and he's 26. We're getting married in October, but we don't plan on adopting kids for at least 5 or 6 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 02:22 PM
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👋
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:01 PM
1

Here is a screenshot of the rest of the tweet that someone else pointed out he cut off to make her look bad. Her husband was on paternity leave to help her. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:55 PM
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Shaming a sexual history is the same behaviour from all sides. Men and women, in general, both do it and people are often hypocrites. I often see men complaining about not wanting a girl that slept around and then also complain about virgin shaming. It definitely goes both ways. I only dated virgins because I am one and wanted the same in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:24 PM
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Men are offended when women won't have sex with them too. Is anyone rightfully offended? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:50 PM
2

I think the way it was worded here is too open to interpretation: including the unnecessary ‘Exist’ makes it seem like bragging to some, while others understand it is hard to exist while breastfeeding The guy left out the entire second part of the tweet where she said marriage and parenting is a team effort and a real traditional marriage is not all on the woman to get those things done alone. They pick up the slack for each other. He very conveniently left that out as well as classifying her as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 12:24 PM
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But what does a a Red Pill man bring to the table? A non-traditional man that wants a traditional woman for one sided commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:31 AM
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Do you think men rightfully should feel offended if he has to have money before you date him? No, because no one is rightfully offended when any individual doesn't want them or has standards. It's their life to live. Are women rightfully offended when men won't date single moms, fat ugly women, or ones with a sexually promiscuous past?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 11:23 AM
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I'd rather be shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:05 PM
1

They're both gay and into it, but the handsome one is a bit of a man hater that's having some really disturbing fantasies about you while it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 08:02 PM
1

Pull the trigger. Neither of these are happening and the decision being made for you amounts to sexual assault. Would you rather be assaulted by a handsome guy or an ugly guy? Is that choice really going to make a difference for you as a straight man?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:51 PM
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I couldn't do either one. I would feel violated and probably throw up on either of them if they attempted to kiss me. If you want to put a gun to my head then go ahead and pull the trigger. I am not gay or attracted to ugly people. Just kill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 07:37 PM
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I have no issue if someone my age, 23, wants to date a 30 year old that they connected with naturally. It's not creepy. It's creepy when 30 year old men are telling me that they're in the same life stage, should be attractive to me, and I'm weird for not wanting them. No, keep it moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:58 PM
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It's fascinating that this is controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 01:37 AM
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We're both virgins, but I don't think it's strange. I think it's more strange that you don't know this person, but you know their sexual history, and are concerned about random Facebook likes. I could see concern if there was continous frequent contact between them, or flirting, but I wouldn't worry about random social media activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:49 PM
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Would you want to date that type of woman that is regularly at bars and out partying? That behaviour says something to me. It's not a moral or character judgment, but it's not compatible with my values or life. I wouldn't want someone like that even if they stopped.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:20 PM
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I'll get back to you on that one, but definitely not meth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:16 PM
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But you did. People have different behaviors from when they are single vs when they are dating. When you're single you only have to worry about your happiness. When you're in a relationship you have to also consider the happiness of your partner. Idk just me if my partner came and simply asked me to wear less revealing clothes, which is very reasonable, I'd do it because their happiness is more important to me than getting attention from random people I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 09:53 PM
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I like golf. If I have a wife and kids I absolutely would be open to playing less golf to spend time with my kids. Does that mean get rid of it altogether? Of course not. But that’s up for me and me wife to negotiate what that looks like. Not your wife and family. Your new gf says that you can only golf at these times for this long, because she expects that other time to be spent on her. Is that accept behaviour? Your gf says no motorcycle and expect you to stop. Acceptable?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:09 PM
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The idea of it being off limits at all is again nonsense. That is what OP is saying. It's reasonable to him and she would be willing to do it for his happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:03 PM
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Why are you dating and pursuing a relationship with someone that doesn't meet your expectations for dressing appropriately?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:58 PM
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Do you think it's reasonable to date and pursue someone that plays video games for 6 hours a day, become an official couple, and then tell that they can't play video games because you want that time spent on you? Is that an acceptable expectation for change? Because according to OP it is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:57 PM
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You mean things that you have to agree to and can't expect? Yes, those things. You have to agree to monogamy. You have to agree to commitment. Also who says 5 minutes ago? OP did when he said that it's because you're now in a relationship with them and it's reasonable to expect them to want to make you happy by changing that behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:48 PM
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Asking is not controlling. I never made that statement. Expecting her to dress differently, "because it's reasonable and she would want him to be happy", is controlling. No one said he can't ask, but he sure as hell can't expect only because they're in a relationship now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:45 PM
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No, you were fine with her behaviour when you met her dressing revealing and posting thirst traps. She was attractive and you pursued a relationship. Expecting her to now dress or act differently only because you're official is controlling. You were okay with it until that point and she didn't agree to this change is you're saying dress differently, because l have boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:28 PM
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She was dating other men too and you agreed to become monogamous in that relationship. You can also agree to keep seeing other people. She can agree to wear less revealing clothes and she can also say no, that's not acceptable. You can't tell someone what to do and expect them to do it because it's what YOU alone want and it was never a problem before.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:17 PM
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I would have no problem with a partner expecting someone to grow, mature etc appropriately. Is not that same l now expect you to stop doing the things that made you attractive to me and I enjoyed 5 mins ago because we are now "official".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:11 PM
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Changes on our own? Yes. We decided to spend more time together rather than with friends. That is completely unrelated to a boubdary. Changes that either of us asked for? There were none.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:26 PM
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Do you think the happiness of your partner is importnat Not if he wants to be in a relationship with someone that isn't me and who he dated and claimed to want. No, absolutely not. I don't date people that I don't want and my expectations and boundaries for their behaviour do not change because we both single or in a relationship together.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:24 PM
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I'm engaged to a man that loves me exactly the way I am now and still the same as the day we met. I feel the same about him and I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone that wasn't already what I wanted in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:19 PM
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Idk just me if my partner came and simply asked me to wear less revealing clothes, which is very reasonable, I'd do it because their happiness is more important to me than getting attention from random people I don't know. I have a boundary about not changing my behaviour that was acceptable and even attractive to you because you have developed an insecurity and nothing else has changed. That's a boundary and a break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:17 PM
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It is controlling when you expect someone different in a relationship. That's not a boundary. You wouldn't have been dating them of it were a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:13 PM
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You think it's a terrible idea for your partner to not expect you to be the person you chose and presented yourself to be with them? That's new. Why else did you select them? For what they could be? How much time are you willing to waste waiting to see if that turn into that person?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:06 PM
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What if you didn't know the person you were dating took meth before you started dating them. Are you controlling because you try to get them to stop? Full stop instant break up, because I don't date meth addicts. If something is unacceptable to me then it's 100% on me to find a compatible partner. It is not on the partner I chose to mould themselves into what I decided I now want from them. You didn't know these girls were dressing like that when you dated them and posting thirst traps??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:03 PM
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No, they shouldn't have the expectation of turning into someone else because they are with you. Behaviour is acceptable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:00 PM
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I don't want a relationship with a meth addict. I also don't date them or pursue them, ask them for commitment, and decide that meth is now a boundary.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:55 PM
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I think it depends on if they were doing it when they met you or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:43 PM
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I don't think most virgins would immediately assume underwhelming means bad at sex, but if it continued repeatedly then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:25 PM
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If she was never promiscuous, there is NO comparison (esp sleeping with half people in the same city) and you'll never wonder why sex is BAD I am a virgin. Being a virgin doesn't mean that I don't know if something feels good or not. We'd still know what bad sex is when something is unpleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 04:17 PM
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My very best friend happens to be a guy and there is literally nothing that I can't talk to him about. I do have friends that talk about sexual topics, but it's quite rare, even from the men. We have conversations about who we like and traits that we find attractive, but everyone tends to be respectful. I think it has much more to do with your lifestyle and individual values rather than gender. I wouldn't be friends or keep speaking to anyone that made me feel uncomfortable or disrespected.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:43 AM
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Choosing not to date or seek out relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:23 AM
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By that definition it's probably the majority of people that weren't waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 01:21 AM
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No, it's saying that she views all men that way. That girl didn't say I see my man's house as a reflection of me. She said a man's house is a reflection of the woman that he is with, not herself, but any woman in a relationship with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:27 PM
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Yes, because kids have a mind of their own. I have a lot of very nice things. Is it an attack on men or not if I say that your woman's purse collection is a reflection of your worth as a partner? The only thing a man's house is a reflection of is if he's a slob or too poor to hire a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:04 PM
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“A Man’s House is a Reflection of the woman he's with" is most certainly an attack on women that aren't homemakers. Is your parent's house spotless? Hope so, because it means your mom is otherwise trash to her. She could have said I feel it's my responsibility to take care of my man and our home, but she didn't. She made it about other women and that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:51 PM
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You can't be a pick me without putting down other women or feeling superior to them. No one calls a more traditional woman a pick me for doing those things. It's 100% that attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 06:27 PM
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How are these sites any worse or worse than r/whereareallthegoodmen ? As long as they aren't posting their names or contact information it's no different. Their allowed to post pics on there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 08:41 AM
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Anyway, if women were judgemental about it then it would matter Many men on this sub constantly say "it's different" when sexually conservative women have the same standards for a partner. Many women are judgmental about it. It matters to anyone that cares about it. They don't need to lower their standards. What they need to realize is that the people they want don't need to lower their standards and accept them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 09:45 AM
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My husband will be a virgin or there won't be a relationship. This premise is ridiculous outside of that. Your partner doesn't owe you something because they did something or tolerated it from an ex. People are allowed to have growing and have changing boundaries. Those boundaries are allowed to be applied to their spouse too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 11:57 AM
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I would leave him if he didn't meet my needs regardless of the reason. It's my responsibility to make certain that I choose a partner that meets my needs. He's clearly not the one in that situation. I wouldn't care about how he treated his ex or what he did for them if it doesn't matter to me. The only thing that matters in my relationship are the 2 people in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:44 AM
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It's not blaming them, but it is saying that it's their responsibility to handle the trauma. I didn't ask to have cancer at 22 years old. There was nothing fair about it either. I had to handle it either way. No one could do that for me. There was no point in being angry and bitter. I could have blamed things on God. What would living that way get me? How would it help me? That's how you have to face it. That bitterness and self hate, regardless of the source, only hurts you, and it keeps you fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:27 AM
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It could include therapy, but treating any mental illnesses, and working through past trauma. Not being bitter or resentful towards people. Working on your self esteem and self image.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:10 AM
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It only ups their odds if that is the thing that is turning others off despite being attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:23 PM
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Also, that's a clever distinction between creating attraction and removing obstacles to attraction. You're not removing an obstacle from creating attraction. You're removing the thing that is ending it for their side.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:12 PM
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Would you classify the classic PUA techniques like push-pull and negging as simply removing obstacles or are they examples of creating attraction? I don't think it works. The attraction was already there. Same for confidence. Some level of attraction was already there. I would recommend self improvement for yourself, because there's no guarantee that it will change anything else at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 09:09 PM
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You can not create attraction, but you can have obstacles that turn others off. A lack of social skills will turn off most people making their initial interest end almost immediately. They'd be able to date with that issue removed. That's not creating attraction. That's removing an obstacle. It's not contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:48 PM
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Figure out why they're single, and try to change it,, because most people aren't struggling to find partners whether they're women or men. Or get money and look for a gold digger. You can't create attraction or feelings if nothing is there for you. No amount of self improvement is going to give someone that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 08:24 PM
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Have you talked to her about why she seems to be feeling differently towards you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 06:09 PM
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I think of improving yourself as looking your best, improving your social skills, and working on your mental health. All 3 of those things are to YOUR benefit, but they may or may not attract help you attract a partner as well. Any self improvement should be about your benefit. There's nothing you can do or change that is going to guarantee attracting someone that wants you, but you should always want to be the best version of yourself whether single or in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 02:50 PM

conservative (male friends are a no go, high bodycount is disgusting etc all those things) Neither of these things are traits of "conservative" people. You shouldn't find people disgusting because they're not compatible with you. You simply don't date them. You also don't try to control people or live in constant jealousy. These are traits of jealous insecure people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:24 PM

It makes you normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 01:21 PM
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I mean, she can do all of that, but not in a relationship with me. So you agree with everyone that says she can do what she wants, but you shouldn't date her if she isn't on the same page as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:52 PM
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Women do not report that they will take a man because he's intelligent and ambitious. They want that in a man that they find attractive. Attraction is the bar you must meet first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:57 PM
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This is about men ( who you don't know) choosing to pursue younger women with low body counts ( who you also don't know) for relationships. This is about whether those men can realistically attain those women. There are statistics and studies for both height preferences and age gap relationships that are available. Less than 8% of relationships in western countries have an age gap of 10+ years. The countries with the largest average age gaps, being almost 15 years, are African Muslim countries. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 07:08 AM
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10 years of living, normal life lived experiences, working, and friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:27 PM
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That's not because they older as much as most of them are sexually experienced and they want that in a partner. There's no other real difference though. Women not finding you attractive isn't going to change if they're younger. There are going to be young virgins that want a sexually experienced guy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:14 PM
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I think it would be the same at any age for women. That's not going to be different with younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 12:06 PM
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This is the tough one, but I knew girls from overseas who came from more conservative cultures where it was the norm for older men to court younger women. One of those girls married a guy over 10 years her senior shortly after high school. His best bet may be to travel abroad either for a wife or to build experience and sort of reinvent himself in new environments. I don't disagree with this, but the fact remains that he's 40 and hasn't figured out what makes him undesirable. He has to figure th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 11:35 AM
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He wants her to be sexually conservative, never had casual sex, and physically desirable. He also doesn't want a woman settling for him because she's running out of options. He's screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 10:59 AM
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The market dictates your value, not you. It works that way for everyone. People get together because they are attracted to each other or whatever so what is attractive about a women that no one wanted that would make me want to date her? What would make any desirable woman want to date you? That's a genuine question, because it has to go both ways in order to have a relationship or sexual desire. You said you don't want a woman that is settling for you. That's understandable, but what do you bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:55 AM
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He's a 40 year old virgin. The only real shot he has is with a woman that no one wanted or a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:14 AM
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So only you are allowed to want what you want? No one said that. Want all you want, but it doesn't become a problem when you don't get it. I would rather have stayed single than to be with someone that didn't fit what I wanted, but you also wouldn't find me online complaining that I have options, but I want better. My choices are my own and not someone else's problem. You wanting a girl without experience doesn't become our problem. You have to face it that younger experienced women are the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 09:03 AM
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Yes they are the same age but they are at two different stages in life. Not to mention some men will be bitter because having no success until later on makes you look like a consolation prize (yes I know most people don't marry or stay with their first choice but that's different than having no success). I'm 23. I am not in the same stage of life of someone in their 30's because we are both virgins. I also don't want someone bitter or inexperienced with relationships either. I want a virgin. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 08:38 AM

It's not morally wrong to do that, no. If someone wants a serious relationship and doesn't want just sex, they should be upfront about what they want. Because it's reasonable to assume that the guy might just want sex. It's now reasonable to assume that she's having casual sex then too, even with a fwb. If it's reasonable to assume a guy only wants sex then why does disclosing any other that matter until he says he wants a relationship with her? You have different expectations for women. It's no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:20 PM

If you're not bf/gf then there's no relationship. You're "friends" that have no obligation to see each other or to share things that you don't want known. Would you expect any other female friend to disclose that to you? So you think the reasonable thing to do is to go on multiple dates with the guy, wait for him to ask the girl to be his GF, and then once they're officially BF and GF the woman says "Oh, btw, I've done 9 porn movies in my life, many of which had gangbang scenes. Thought you shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:12 PM

Do you think it's morally wrong for date women and have sex with them if they have no intention of having a long term relationship with them? If not then why does it matter? "I'll smash a hoe, but not commit to one." Do think it's morally wrong for a man to not disclose that past behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 08:09 PM

Before any relationship? No, not really. I would expect them to disclose it at that point, but not before then unless specifically asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:58 PM

I never dated men that I didn't know from social circles with a strong feel for their background. They were usually in my friend groups AND from church. I already know their histories and reputation and they know mine. Like, you probably care about knowing that a man you're interested in murdered someone in the past, but you'd probably not ask it. No one is admitting to that either, but you're a fool if you don't do a background check and allow yourself to be alone with that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:52 PM

I wouldn't date a guy that's not a virgin. What other people do is their private affairs until you have commitment. If it's important to you then ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:41 PM

I don't think any of that "needs" to be disclosed if you're not in a relationship, but I would also look at them and ask if they're still a virgin the moment they attempt to ask anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:37 PM
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I convinced my friends to do the thought experiment. Whenever you see a conventionally attractive woman. Keep all her traits but change her into a man. Then ask yourself what should be as sexually successful and would she be able to get away with the same behaviors? Right now from my perspective as a young black man you get compared to the worst types of men but you don't get their benefits. Every single type of bad man A woman describes that she went for or was dating is always a thug or correl…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:24 PM

It appears that the US Supreme Court has already ruled on the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:00 PM

Happy Easter, Passover, or Sunday to you all!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 02:56 PM
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Did or did the police not raid the underage sex shop? Facts do indeed matter, because it was govt administration task force of the govt and not the police. It's right there in the article. No police stopped the child prostitution or any of the prostitution and ALL of it is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:01 PM
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evidenced by governmental action to stop it and punish perpetrators Including multiple local police officers hat were responsible for stopping it and didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:24 PM

You should be welcomed at any church to watch and check it out. There's a ton of variation between then even from the same denomination.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:07 PM
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It's estimated that 1/4 to 1/2 of "prositutes" in Thailand are minors and their families sell many of them. A special government task force arresting a handful of people, including police officers, or shutting down a handful of clubs and ignoring the rest does not support it not being tolerated. Prostitution is illegal and not stopped. Do you really believe that they're checking ages for criminal activity? Why aren't all of these clubs shut down if it's not tolerated? Why are there police allowi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:58 PM
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The legal age to drink in Thailand is 20. The legal age to work in Thailand is 18. The legal age for consensual sex in Thailand is 18 The age of consent is 15. The age children can work is 15, but they have different working laws as most countries have them for minors. But, it's also true that these districts have no shortage of law enforcement and are not some fly-by-night operation holding girls hostage. There was a raid 2 weeks ago shutting down multiple businesses for offering underage child…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:27 AM
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Well, women aren't entitled to the relationship either. A claim l have never made. I don't think people are entitled to sex or relationships. Casual sex should always been seen as casual sex and a date is nothing more than a date. There can't be added expectations from someone wanting more than what the other party consented to in either case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 03:17 PM
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The same way men claim they get used for food dates. How does one get used by taking a girl out that he asked for dinner? It was his idea and he consented.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 02:41 PM
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I saw the post before you edited it. You said that you were currently 127lbs. You are clearly mentally unwell and that is much more important than your height issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:25 PM
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How does you having no issues help me ? I’m looking for advise You might want to go back and edit that eating disorder post again. You changed your weight by 11lbs to be the same as the one you listed here, but over there you forgot to adjust the height to 5'11...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:17 PM
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5'9, athletic, and never had an issue due to my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:09 PM
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You're acting like height is the end of it. How many of those women are also attractive or have a nice build? How many of those women are also dealing with racism for being black or weight issues? Many taller women also feel the same way I do too. You feel that way, not all taller women. It's more than height unless you're over 6'+.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:06 PM
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I've never had issues dating as a taller woman. Your experiences are the complete opposite of mine. I get compliments on my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:02 PM
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You literally said preteens and teens are looking for love, sex, and companionship. All in one sentence, so yes, you did say it and it's creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:05 PM
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You specifically mentioned preteens. No 10-12 year olds are in no way sexual and they are CHILDREN, not just minors, and it's creepy af to sexualize children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:59 PM
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No, most minors have friends, sports, and social lives. They do not sit at home crying into the void about being unloved because they experience platonic love. There are other ways of getting your emotional needs met besides a partner. Pills have nothing to do with the natural biological impulses of preteens and teenagers for love, sex and companionship. Don't sexualize children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:22 PM
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That doesn't absolve a parent from having to spend lots of money on the ER visits for a mentally unwell child that has had their sanity destroyed by the superficiality of a future dating market. Something is wrong with your parenting AND your child if your minor is obsessed with dating and into all of this pill stuff. Kids are not thinking about this stuff. Or did you mean adults that are responsible for their own lives that want to be seen as helpless children while also being seen as sexual ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:16 PM
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I think you need to narrow down "relationship". A friend with benefits is a relationship. Poly people are in relationships. What kind of relationship do you define as a relationship? Marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 08:33 PM
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I would tell them to see a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 07:03 PM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with people that sleep with whoever they want, but as a virgin I only want another virgin, no exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 06:50 PM
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Conservative/religious girls want conservative religious guys. Nothing in that statement says that they want a man that isn't still sexually attractive on top of it. Going to church, being a virgin, or having a conservative family background also doesn't mean a girl is religious or conservative herself. You're making assumptions based on circumstances. Being a sexually attractive guy that women want has nothing to do with how he behaves if he is conservative or religious himself. That man is att…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:25 PM
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They're not using them for attention or validation. They're using them to vent their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:17 PM
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Male attention from men they desire, not men they rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:11 PM
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If I say no then I mean no. There's no attraction or a serious compatibility flaw exists and neither of those are capable of being changed. Asking a 2nd time looks desperate and will make me completely avoid you. Asking a 3rd time will make me think that you're possibly a stalker. Asking after that will have the police telling you to never speak to me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 08:44 PM
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There’s a saying that goes “it takes money to make money” and a similar analogy holds for the dating market. Chad’s charm and poise often comes with experience from previous relationships. Things such as knowing how to approach, properly read a girl, escalating comfortably, good pickup lines, etc. come from having many relationships. Even if a virgin guy has a 6 pack and 6ft it doesn’t mean he has the other part down. That has nothing to do with sexual restraint. I don't want a guy that has had …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 05:12 PM
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I mean look at your own username. You yourself want a Chad . Almost certainly he won’t be a virgin, but you’ll still go for him once he shows interest. Chad doesn't mean he has a lack of sexual restraint. Chad means women want him. It has 0 to do with his beliefs or actions. I got him and he is a virgin like myself, because our faith is the most important part of our lives. I have rejected plenty of men for having had sex. I dated 1 exception, because he had been married and had no other experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 03:33 PM
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What they don’t tell you as much is that in order to get those types of women, you need to be traditional and religious yourself. How is that not common sense? That's as bad as "no one told me that people need to find me sexually attractive too."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:20 AM
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But she gets a man with sexual experience that could (maybe?) please another woman. He definitely isn't single because he couldn't keep another woman nor does he have commitment issues. Those unicorns are waiting by the field full waiting for her to walk by and be overcome by their alpha experience. Hold me back ladies, I might not be able to resist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:45 AM
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Do you care what other men do or how they feel? No, because you're not trying to get with them. Why would a woman care about your opinion when you're not the type of man that she wants? Do you think anyone cares if you, me, or anyone else ends up alone? No, and why should they? They're your standards alone to have in selecting a partner. There are many men that don't care despite what you tell yourself. Yes and your average man can't sleep around anyway because he's average so it sounds like a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:21 AM
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I was raised in the Christian church and wouldn't have dated a convert for that reason. I want someone that was raised with the same faith/views and followed them. It's also interesting how many non virgin men in the church want a wife that lives by the faith. Keep it moving, buddy. I'm happy that you found God, now go find a different woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:13 AM
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They have 0 reason not to do it because men have routinely been caving on their actual standards to not end up alone in this vicious dating climate we currently have. That's not her problem. Many people have no issue staying single rather than accepting someone they don't want. She has no reason not to live how she wants, especially for a man that she doesn't want. Nothing is a better predictor of future loyalty than a woman that can't be tempted by casual sex and has always preferred long term …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:09 AM
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You should go read the Quran. The father has to approve. He doesn't say yes or make the decision for her. Forced marriage actually goes against Islam, which is a part of my point. They want control, not religion. Religious women want men that share the same values.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:04 AM
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With all of the men talking about spinning plates and seeking casual sex? Absolutely not. No religion condones premarital sex of any kind. What they seek is the control of women through religion while thinking the rules don't apply to them too. That's not religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:57 PM
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It's a complete non starter. Men are upset that more women don't act like they want so they're willing to date them, but those women never wanted that type of man regardless of their n count. I am a virgin waiting for marriage. I would never be with a man that judged sexual history on anything other than religious values and I wouldn't be with a man that's not a virgin. I don't care how others live, because I don't want them and they don't want me. Women that want to sleep around have 0 reason n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 11:53 PM
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Women don’t need to justify or defend their sexual choices to anyone, because no one is being forced to date them. Men don’t need to justify their choices either. You have your personal opinions that can be applied to your future partner, but they don't apply to the girl that doesn't want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:56 PM
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It depends on the action and the person receiving it. It's not perceived by gender, but by the individual. That's why you see so many mixed signals. There are many people that won't like it and reject a person and those that won't care or mind it at all. It doesn't work the same for everyone, regardless of their gender. There's very little logic or consensus to it. Men want sex. Many men want casual sex. Many of those same men don't want a relationship with someone that has had casual sex. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:09 PM
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So I have to consider whether I'm being unrealistic or not What you have to consider is whether your morals and beliefs are more important than sex or a partner that you know you don't actually want. That's what it comes down to in the end. I would remain a virgin and single for life than to compromise on my religious beliefs or what I want in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:31 PM
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Are your moral standards high? Yes? Cool, but if they're beating the crap out of your psychological state by preventing you from existing in a stable state, sometimes you need to reconsider what's more important, or whether you've set yourself an impossible standard. Been there, done that, and stuck to them despite it. Why? Because they matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 01:04 PM
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I think I'm a moral person, I'd like to achieve success by moral means. Why are we even giving power to these idiots who can't even think clearly, straight and logically? Why are we letting them to sexual-select? Why are you chasing and complaining about women that you consider to be immoral and shallow instead of focusing on women that share your views and values? There's nothing logical about that behaviour. You're selecting them and then complaining about your choices. We might as well all be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 12:49 PM
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I'm going to use something you said here as an example to show you the difference. Interesting. Wouldn't a naturally flirty man (if attractive) get away with saying "Good morning beautiful?". Wouldn't a naturally flirty man be able to break the touch barrier easily (he just wouldn't use those terms)? I'm interested to hear your thoughts, could you explain more? What happens when you can't break the touch barrier, but you know she has a body count of 25? You can't break it because she's learned t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:38 PM
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To answer your first question, of course I would want a woman who wants me. But that's not mutually exclusive with the process of learning how to become more attractive to me so that she can get me. That girl would be doing the same thing. She's pretending to be someone different so that she can get with you for whatever reason. That's why I said it has to become natural behaviour that goes across your entire life. If you're pretending to be someone else it's manipulation. That's different than …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 02:25 PM
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Would you want to be with a woman that didn't genuinely enjoy doing things with you or felt that she had to act a certain way to get the results that she wanted from you or do you want a woman that wants you? The first is performing the social script too. That's why it comes down to being authentic and comfortable. Learning social skills is great, but it needs to become natural to you in a way that's not about manipulating a situation to get a specific result.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:51 PM
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If a man was socially competent and comfortable in all of those situations it wouldn't make a difference, because we all "learn" our social skills throughout life. It would be strange and very noticeable to only have them related to one area of his life. That case wouldn't be learned social skills, but more like reading a script. That script isn't going to help him make friends, be out in groups on the weekend, or spending the weekend with her family. What you are calling natural is someone that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:42 PM
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Someone that has learned game or techniques is not going to have the same outgoing nature or charm that goes along in the rest of their life outside of trying to meet women. I want someone that is naturally social and good with ALL of those situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 12:32 PM
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Most guys do not give advice to another men about women and which one to avoid. We let them figure it out themselves. That has nothing to do with did they know. Did they know better? That's a personal opinion, not a lack of awareness of their past actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:14 PM
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Do you really think that some random person in their school knows all of these details about their being exposed and their partner from the same school isn't aware too? They know this doctor married a stripper and the doctor doesn't know he married a sex worker? People in your condo complex somehow know details of your sex life and you don't have a reputation? Yes, these people know. They clearly don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 01:02 PM
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Not everyone cares about sexual history. Those people obviously don't care and it's their lives. Why does anyone else care about that if they're both happy and aware?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 12:42 PM
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Are these men ugly or suffering from some social deficit that prevents women from dating them like every other guy? Most men are dating, having sex, and getting relationships. Women are already interested in them if they're not ugly or suffering from social/mental issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:49 AM
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They are still only 2% of the population. By default it's extraordinarily rare, not easy. Many of those 2% are already married and many don't want to marry too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:40 AM
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When I say rich men I mean men who are plastic surgeons, judges, neurosurgeon's, business owners, or anyone whos earning around 300,000 usd a year 300k is the top 2% of men. How is that easy for women to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 03:35 AM
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You're a trip. You’re talking about a totally different topic. It's a different topic why her getting attention on social media is different than being out. You 24 hours ago. If a girl is getting just as much attention on social media as she is getting in the club that it’s literally the same thing It's literally the same thing according to you, but you can't answer for your inconsistencies. Also you yesterday: I’m saying because if a dude has a lot of friends and is exposed to lots of women he’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:44 PM
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Why are you deleting guys off of her social media and then asking why do guys get jealous of other dudes? You're clearly jealous and insecure about other men having the opportunity to talk to her and then asking me what's the issue. Why can't she have male friends on her social media? Why are you jealous of her relationships with them? Why are you worried about her screwing them or something if you're a high value hot millionaire and she's a 10? Why is it not a problem in person, but it is onlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:27 PM
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No one said married. I said you are inconsistent with your stories. You're deleting men off of her social media, but keeping men around in person that disrespect you the moment you walk away? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:19 PM
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I would say fake. One minute she's his girlfriend that allows him to control her social media and who she talks to and the next he's only dating, too young for commitment, and she's surrounded by jealous men putting him down. There's no consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 04:12 PM
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What are some things you’re willing to look over? Or some things that you know will likely cause discord in the home? Nothing. He's right for me or he's not. I wouldn't be with someone that had different beliefs or values, because I will never bend for mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 03:16 PM
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If she can post thirst traps then so can he. If she can like other pics of others then so can he. He or she can't do something completely different and call it the same. That's like he says hi to his female co-workers so that means she can sext with hers. They're not the same thing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:27 PM
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You only have experience with men who have gotten by but still nonetheless rely on relationships as a form of social networking That's not even close to the truth. We've known each other since we were children and grew up together in church. They're not relying on their relationships for a social circle. They were already there before and after each relationship. You're making assumptions. Are you the average guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:28 PM
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A man shouldn’t have to be in a relationship to be stable and have an active social life. No one said they have to be in a relationship to have a social life, but they're all in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:23 PM
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Those men are out multiple times a week. We're young, 22-25. I know their friend groups, because we're all friends. They're not remotely socially isolated and that doesn't include the church functions that we all attend together. We go out as groups, a few couples, guys nights, and girls nights. Those men have dated multiple women and are all in relationships. Not one of them has struggled to find a partner. I've known them all since we very young kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 10:05 PM
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Do you think in men in relationships with active social lives are struggling with dating and social isolation? Those are the complaints made here. They're happy well adjusted guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:49 PM
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They're all in relationships and we all go out together. They're not secretly struggling in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:09 PM
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Some women can only tolerate dating men who are content with how society is for men. Men don’t want to date women that hate them either or blame men for their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:35 PM
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I don't dislike men at all. There are very specific men that I don't like, but I can't say that I have ever met a man that lives like this either. It seems like most of the men here are extremely bitter and unhappy. I don't know any guys like that or guys that are struggling with their personal/social lives either. It's definitely opened my eyes a lot to a subsection of society that's pretty disturbing to me. It also makes me sad and more appreciative that I am fortunate enough to be surrounded …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:47 PM
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Don't keep toxicity in your life and focus on your own goals. A partner should fit into your life. Your life should not fit around them or their goals. Take care of your health, including your mental health, and be happy with whatever you're doing. Make time for what is important to you and that includes your social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 04:33 PM
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All of them. Maybe you have something to hide, but not me, and I expect my partner to be the same. I'm not marrying someone that doesn't live up to their religious values. Sorry, but the past matters for men and women. Your feelings don't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:20 PM
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That wouldn't be problem at all. My fiancé has met my exes and everyone else including current and past classmates because we're still friends. I've met his too. He can talk to any of the over 500 people on my Facebook. Why is this a problem if you're not hiding something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 12:07 PM
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No it doesn't. That means you're making her believe she's dating UP when in reality you may both be in the same league. This doesn't happen unless she's mentally ill. Leave your phone (unlocked) on the table with the fake bitches in your DM's. Never went through a guy's phone once. I don't want him if I can't trust him to handle it and act respectful at all times. Recount stories from work, which often involve another female coworker in the story. We don't see that as competition. It's a woman w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 07:18 PM
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Yes, I have dated them. We expect you to apologize when your gf sees it get out of hand and handle it, not tell us about it. A woman that knows she's got it will walk away, because you're trying to make her insecure and displaying disrespectful behaviour. Neither is attractive. This only works on woman that know they have actual competition from others and something to fear. That means you are dating down. Why are you dating down AND insecure about her leaving? That's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:42 PM
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This will backfire in a spectacular fashion if a woman knows her worth. Why are men dating women that can be easily replaced? Why would a good woman stay with a man that gives out his number and allows women to disrespect his relationship? Why would she tolerate a man that disrespects her openly by proudly telling her that other women want him either? Fear of losing you to another bitch Never once in my life have I felt threatened by another woman. Perceived preselection makes you more attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:35 PM
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A lack of self respect and self esteem that causes many girls to "try to fit in" with society. It's the same with men. I don't think that there's anything specific to a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:47 PM
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Additionally “stay single”. Are you making fun of me? Or are you staying that I am free to stay single if I want to based my personal views. No, I am literally saying stay single if you can't find who you want. No other relationship is worth it. If this is only referring to the context of purity culture and having a virgin, sure, then my comments don’t apply . It did.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:41 PM
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Because he's not against premarital sex. He's saying average men can't get it therefore women should be slutshamed and purity culture enforced so men can claim their virgins regardless of their beliefs. Where did I say any of the crap you spouted about how men should have to accept this or that? Stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:23 PM
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Their potential partners shouldn't have to settle either if that's not for them, because no one has to date anyone that they don't want. It has nothing to do with a sisterhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 05:21 PM
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Explain to me where I said anything like that. I said it does nothing for a woman waiting for marriage to accept less than a man that is also intentionally waiting for marriage. You are free to do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:54 PM
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It really depends on their beliefs of why they are waiting and what they personally want. It's not something you can apply broadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:30 PM
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You're free to disagree, but it's not wanted in my experience with my social circles of intentionally waiting women and we intentionally seek men also waiting for marriage too. Different experiences and desires for different people. Religious people looking for religious partners tend to want them to actually follow their faith. Never kissed and never had a relationship are not the same as a virgin until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 04:04 PM
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Doesn't matter what one person thinks, if the messaging being received by men is the way I described. Your perception doesn't speak for other men. Then perhaps somebody should tell the feminists who believe they should have ultimate freedom and no shame, yet constantly demonise men's sexuality merely for existing. Then it's a good job I don't run around shaming women for their sexuality, isn't it? Which view is it? Do your individual actions matter or what the other gender perceives as the mass …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:59 PM
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She gains a man who is sexually experienced who can help guide her in discovering her sexuality That's not something that many intentionally waiting women want and for those women they get nothing but a man that believes in double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:36 PM
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I think that is a good point to be made. I wouldn't date someone that I didn't have connections to and the ability to vet properly. I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:18 PM
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When I was single it was due to my high behavioural and moral standards for a compatible partner. I wouldn't be in a relationship only to not be alone and the type of men that I sought out aren't that common. He was worth the wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:14 PM
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Which is why the past matters and why you dig for it. People that have a history of lying continue to lie. People that have stable relationships and continue them when dating ends don't usually end up turning into someone completely different. I'm not listening to a man about what he says about past relationships. I am going to the source and getting their sides too and comparing common themes among them. People rarely change who they are, but you have to look for who they are rather than what t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 02:08 PM
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Why is it only oppressive and bitter when men do it, but virtuous and correct when women do it? So you're making up whataboutisms that I never said? Okay, carry on. Why would they feel inclined to encourage women to do whatever they feel like when they don't feel afforded the same acceptance or freedom themselves? When were women ever not slut shamed? Never. A lot of women have started treating men like they've been historically treated with double standards. Men find that to be a problem, but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:59 PM
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Oh but I don't need to be one, just need to appear like one. I wanted a religious guy that lives his faith. It's like saying that going to church on Sunday makes you appear to be religious. No, it makes you look like someone that goes to church on Sunday. You can't appear to be something that you're not living with good vetting. It will come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:26 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:17 PM
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Even if you do feel like this, you cannot openly say it IRL because it makes you look like a bitter loser... and nobody likes that. You are a bitter loser if you're saying you want sex, but since you can't have it no one should have it. This is why women need to be taught how to vet men better. Meet their family, friends, and their exes too. You need to question why you can't meet their exes. Do they hate them? All of them? Really? You haven't been able to maintain any friendships or civil relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:57 PM
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I am a virgin waiting for marriage and I would never date a guy with this attitude. This attitude doesn't convey values about sex or intimacy. This attitude says I want sex, because I am jealous, and if I can't have it then others shouldn't be allowed to either. You want to socially punish others and shame them for you not being able to achieve it. What do women waiting for marriage gain by ending up with a bitter man that sees them as nothing more than an unused hole rather than someone that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:35 AM
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100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:37 AM
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The truth is, if you allow that to happen in a relationship then you are letting your partner down If you lack the self awareness required to maintain that desire, then you don’t belong in adult relationships. I hope you're telling that to men too and that the spark and work to maintain a happy home and partnership is 2 sided. Sex isn't something that just happens because of hormonal desires in a relationship. That's what l hear from most women that lost their desire. Their partner wants sex, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:05 AM
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The flip side is a guy has to walk up ask out a girl who is taken/doesn't find him her type/just thinks he is ugly/wants to be single rejected.......in all of these situations the guy isn't choosing this outcome that's just the luck of the draw, can he do things to increase his odds? Of.course but it's still OUT of his hands at the end of the day It's 100% his choice in who he choosing to ask out.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:40 PM
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Single mom no, because there is blatant evidence that she through her own actions[excluding rape] chosen poorly/made bad decisions and that could negatively impact him. I can make up the same stuff too. I wouldn't date a guy that hasn't had a relationship because he clearly has a history of poorly made decisions in asking out women that weren't interested. That shows a lack of social skills and inability to guage interest/boundaries. That's based on evidence too if he's saying every woman has re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:33 PM
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Is a virgin guy that doesn't want to date a single mom or a promiscuous woman being shallow and unkind?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:23 PM
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It's not a personal judgment on him of any kind, but it's not someone I would date. That's not being unkind or shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:19 PM
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It doesn't create attraction for me at all. He could be attractive on his own, but his attitude towards money will be an instant turn off if he thinks it makes him more valuable as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 07:17 PM
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I don't think it's a red flag at 24, but I wouldn't be interested in someone without relationship experience. There's a lot of growing pains to learn through dating. I don't want to be with someone that expects me to tolerate all of the things that they didn't learn or experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 06:07 PM
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If men mainly want sex and nothing more why all of complaints about women sleeping with Chad? If you want casual sex you want the most attractive. You don't need to commit to anyone and neither do women, but many men certainly do complain about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:40 PM
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What expectations for a man do you have in regards to his behavior and actions should he be doing to expect this treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 10:57 PM
1

Your chart shows a recent decline in the last few years for sexless men and a rise for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 12:39 AM
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Why does anyone feel a need to justify it or randomly talk about it where it needs justification? Look for partners you want and move along when someone doesn't fit your lifestyle. I think feeling that you need to justify something indicates a level of shame. There's no need to shame anyone that chooses to live differently than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:24 PM
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The thing is. I'm not particularly remarkable. I have some stuff I guess it's objectively really nice to men: I have a really feminine face, small nose, pouty lips, a lot of neoteny, long healthy hair, petite, pear shaped. I think I come across as really warm and motherly even though I'm usually really shy, but I don't think I'm someone that would stand out. I'd get lost in a sea of people. Also directly from you: Anyone else thinks neoteny + thick eyebrows + really full pouty lips create a mass…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:18 AM
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How would you have ended up in a committed relationship with that person unless they had lied to you about their past? It's your responsibility to find these things about before getting into a relationship unless they lied.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:49 PM
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I think it's fine as long as you don't expect them to be promiscuous for you too or as long as promiscuous men don't get mad when virgins/conservative women reject them for the same reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:45 AM
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Meet their family, friends, and their exes. You need to have open talks about these things. If I am interested in a guy one of the first things that I will ask him is if he's a virgin and what are his views on sex. If they lie about that they will also lie about other topics. That's why l am waiting for marriage and have thoroughly vetted my future husband. It's not a secret if you're religious and waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 02:41 PM
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It is saddening to learn that women don't ascribe moral virtue to male virginity. It's not a sign of moral virtue on it's own. Do you consider incels virtuous? They're virgins, but complaining that they can't have sex due to others. Many virgin men try to have sex with anyone and fail due to a lack of social skills or not being attractive. Is that virtuous? No. Would you consider a woman virtuous that wanted to have sex with 100 men and only didn't because of parental restriction on her freedoms…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:31 AM
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I wouldn't date someone that old. I'm 23, not 28. He's 26 and we're both virgins by choice. I wouldn't date someone more than 2 years older. He's not quite 3 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 08:02 PM
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No, it wouldn't be worth it to me and would have wasted my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:56 PM
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No, and l only care if they are waiting for marriage due to religious values. Not having sex doesn't make someone a better or worse person. It doesn't change your opinions or heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:05 PM
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I don't find it cute. It's nothing more than a requirement. If he tried to have sex and failed he's not an option. It's more about values and restraint than virginity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:02 PM

Absolutely not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 04:19 PM
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Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:54 PM
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That's why I would only also be with a virgin choosing to wait for marriage. I don't believe in double standards and neither does my faith in regards to chastity until marriage. I want my partner to share the same values or there's 0 point in not going out and having sex with every hot guy I see. We want sex too!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:06 PM
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Your personal feelings on cheating don't dictate how or if it will hurt your partner. You can never control that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:32 PM
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Do you not realize that women get turned on by seeing really hot guys too? We do. That doesn't mean that you need to have sex with them. Being turned on isn't a choice for anyone, but acting on it is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:29 PM
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Thanks, we're getting married in the fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:09 PM
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Of course, because if she leaves you or accepts it then it's no longer cheating. Cheating is doing it without their consent. She can do the same to you and you have the same options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:07 PM
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I think anyone that cheats or knowingly sleeps with people in relationships is extremely low value as a potential partner regardless of their gender. What does it say about your thoughts on your partner if you're willing to stick your penis in random trash and risk the relationship? It doesn't say anything good. You don't value loyalty in a relationship or sexual fidelity and she has no reason to stay faithful to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:59 PM
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get your passport or settle for a feminist. These women are feminists if they're having sex with boyfriends or men casually in a conservative society. Submissive traditional women aren't spreading their legs. They most certainly aren't at clubs approaching men and hooking up. That's none of those things. 🤣 What you found are gold diggers that are willing to play the game. Rest assured that they also didn't sleep with every man that came along within 2 dates too. No, you men are super special uni…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:25 AM
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It might be nature's choice. Stuff doesn't work the same at that age and women can't be expected to have painful sex. That guy might be sad because he can't get it up too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:01 AM
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Are you really shocked that people in their 70's aren't having sex? Of course they weren't embarrassed about it. They're in their 70's and have been together for 54 years. Who do they need to impress?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:54 AM
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Most men aren't interested in older or fat women and will avoid them when possible. It would have very little change except for wasting swipes to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 09:02 PM
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I don't think there will be one. This is like asking how an influx of old obese ladies will change dating. It wouldn't. People that can't date might choose it, but no one that can date people they want is going to choose that over a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:05 PM
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Less people you aren't interested in to swipe through isn't going to be a negative. Don't dating apps have limited swipes too? That's going to be seen as a positive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 08:00 PM
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No, not if no one is selecting them. They're not actively dating. They're attempting to enter the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:50 PM
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How will masturbating a different way affect dating? It won't, but it will give the people that can't have partners something different to focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:46 PM
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But the logic is the same. The majority of people say yes or no on do I find them attractive and like them. Can I do better isn't a part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 06:17 PM
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No, I think that I am not attracted or we are not compatible. I rejected all men that aren't virgins. Does having sex make them worse than other men? No. Does having different religious views make them worse people? No, but they certainly aren't potential partners for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:51 PM
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When someone of the opposite gender rejects you; they are saying the unspoken part out loud. If l reject someone it means nothing more than I don't find you attractive or think that we would be compatible. I have rejected guys for many reasons, but not ever once was it I think I am better than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:33 PM
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Don't you have male friends that are better looking, more social, or more successful either? I don't see why their traits would make you feel insecure about yourself in a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:26 PM
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I never formed friendships with guys that interested me. There was interest or there wasn't. There was no in between. Each woman has different boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 05:10 PM
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If he obeys the "philosophy" of the red pill strictly will he be able to get tons of random hook ups with new women every weekend? No, random hook ups are based on physical attraction. It won't help if he's ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:26 PM
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Is it creepy? No. Would l ever accept a cold approach and say yes to a date or give out my number? Also no, but that never makes it creepy if they were respectful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 03:00 PM
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"Why is it unfair for ugly men to be called creepy for approaching women? Why do ugly men believe that women should be open to their advances?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:55 PM
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It doesn't become creepy because you don't find them attractive. It's not creepy to ask someone out politely and accept their answer. Stop calling people creepy when they're not being creepy. I absolutely hate being cold approached by anyone and l don't call it creepy when people are respectful. That's the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:50 PM

😂 Most taller women are not built like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:44 PM

I'm 5'9 and I've never met a guy that said he finds my height unattractive. They like my long legs. I'm not built like a man. I am a tall woman. I wear high heels too and it's never been a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:42 PM
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speculatively Yes, because you can't know or assume their reasoning for not wanting those things. Your opinions are not their own. You have no idea who has examined the reasons of why they want what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:54 AM
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Some people simply also don't want to sleep with multiple people, have casual sex, and they would like a partner with similar values too. Caring about sexual pasts can come from an insecurity, but it doesn't make it the default reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:30 AM
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Or it goes against their religious values. Not everything is about insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 11:20 AM
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This post is funny. You went from most women to no woman would reject a man for his sexual history. It's an absolute deal breaker for many women. It's also not a deal breaker for many men. People are different and have different standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 09:48 AM
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Hey my girlfriend let me delete all the guys from her social media and she’s a 10 so you act like these women don’t exist. She’s from another country though so they tend to be more submissive and respectful in Thailand OP
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:46 PM
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In order to say how I'd compete against another woman I'd need to know more about what she brings to the table so I can compare it to what I bring. You can probably read that as their idea of "submissive, loyal, and feminine".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:40 PM
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Why would women compete for men that can't get the type of women that they want? That doesn't make sense. If you're an attractive as a partner you don't have issues getting what you want unless you're looking for something that you can't offer, like being ugly and wanting someone attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 06:29 PM
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They don't care. They want people, not happy healthy people. They're fine with poverty. "Don't have sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:50 AM
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You're not wrong, but it's because men don't get pregnant and it's bodily autonomy. Men have to accept that they can't choose for her under any circumstance and sex might lead to a child. They know that they have no consent in terms of pregnancy. It can never be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:41 PM
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That child couldn't exist if the father didn't have sex too. It takes both.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 06:27 PM
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But a single mom can drop a baby off at a fire station in many jurisdictions So can a legally listed father. The other parent can claim the baby through a simple police call.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:35 PM
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Men would have to want their kids for that to happen, but instead they're arguing for paper abortions to abandon them. I don't think we will see that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:47 PM
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No, you both made a choice to have sex and risk a child being born. Since her body is life support for 9 months she gets to decide if she wants an abortion. If it was the man that was pregnant instead it would be the same circumstances. You can't force her to have a medical procedure against her will or carry a child. They both have risks for her, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:59 PM
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Because a child has a right under the law to receive financial support from both parents. That's as far as his legal obligations need to go if he doesn't want a relationship. You can't be forced to raise a child, but you can be forced to pay child support regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:55 PM
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Because only one of them is pregnant. Only one of them is at risk from a pregnancy or abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:37 PM
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😂 You believe they're infants, but if you kill them early enough for your liking it's okay. The majority of abortions occur in the first trimester according to statistics and 2nd trimester abortions are because the fetus has severe medical problems that couldn't be found earlier. When exactly does it become wrong for a doctor to perform a medical procedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 11:04 AM
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An infant is an independent being, not a fetus or embryo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:56 AM
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Comparing child abandonment to a private medical procedure is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 10:22 AM
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Who is opposing men having birth control or making their own reproductive choices, which is the point of this post? No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 09:21 AM
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I never said that they were equivalent. I said men have unopposed access to birth control and sterilization of their own. I also said child abandonment, aka paper abortion, is not equivalent to a medical procedure that carries risks and consequences for the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:16 AM
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You can feel that way, but the rest of society that had no say in your child's birth also feels that they have no burden to support your child.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:09 AM
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Since men can't be pregnant or deal with the physical ramifications it won't ever be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:05 AM
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I would support it if that meant that men can not have any contact with the child, are charged with harassment, and are forced to pay all 18 years of child support if they do attempt to contact them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 12:22 AM
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Child support is not about being ready to be a father. Governments don't force any contact. They enforce a child's right to financial support. A father has that choice us protection or don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 11:28 PM
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You said men should be able to choose to not parent financially before 10 weeks. Abortion is about bodily autonomy, not abandonment or finances. They're not related. Children have a right to financial support from both parents. Why should men get rights that women don't have? She can't give your kid away or not pay support for it either without your consent. There's no autonomy issue happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:28 PM
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Men don’t get pregnant. It'll never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 10:04 PM
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To a child? Yes, once paternity is established. To tell a woman what she can do with her doctor? No, and he shouldn't have a say in that unless you want women to be able to force a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:37 PM
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That's wrong and so is men getting custody and rights to children of the children that they raped, but that also happens. That's not a gender issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:57 PM
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That is the argument for making abortion illegal, but abortion is about bodily autonomy. Pregnancy is not easy or always safe. Men don’t carry a pregnancy or carry any risk from it other the same financial ones put on the mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:47 PM
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Was the man raped? Did he not have a choice to not conceive said child? That was his right. Same argument people use against abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:26 PM
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Children that exist are entitled to support from both parents, regardless of custody. Paper abortion violates their rights and that's why it's illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:21 PM
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It is a legal imbalance. Abortion isn't a right or even legal many places and is an issue of bodily autonomy. Just as no woman can force you to have a vasectomy so she doesn't get pregnant. Birth control is an option to men, but so is for women, and yet you can use that against abortion being legal too. It is a little hypocritical that same pro-life argument is only selectively used against men. Who claimed that birth control and access to not being a parent was available to women but opposed fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 08:13 PM
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Abortion and birth control to prevent parenthood. Not criticizing this, but they do strongly oppose stuff such as paper abortion for men to give them same window of time for choice. Condoms and vasectomy exist too and no one is opposing them. Men have a choice. All birth control can fail. Abortions aren't legal everywhere either and both parents bear the same legal responsibility once a child is born.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:49 PM
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Can a father file for parental rights prior to the child being born? Yes Could a single father get legal rights before a mother chose to put the baby up for adoption on the day of birth? Yes. Could a single father get legal rights before a mother chose to put the baby up for adoption on the day of birth? Yes How can you take some one to court if you don’t know your a father? There are consequences to random sex and this can be one. Her lying and saying she's not pregnant or it's not yours isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:24 PM
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Now tell me how you can't take her to court and file for declaration of paternity and you have a case, but you don't. They are not named by default and I said that originally, because you do not have any responsibility to a child until a judge says so. No, she doesn't have to name you. That doesn't stop you from taking to court. Those men have no right to complain if they don't want to do that. It can be done before the birth, including paternity tests. The court adds the name to the birth recor…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 07:06 PM
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Fathers sign the birth certificate, file for a declaration of paternity in court, or they wait to be contacted and do nothing because they don't want the responsibility. Those are all choices. Proactive single dads can file before a baby is ever born. Look it up. Paternity tests can be safely done extremely early in pregnancy and the father can be named.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:40 PM
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Then he's not the legal father and it has nothing to do with paternity or having different rights. You can take her to court before a baby is born too and ask for a test and custody order. Most people don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:30 PM
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The dad can call the police and claim his child if the mother abandoned it if he is listed as the father. Safe haven laws apply to both parents in most places. There's no kidnapping charge, but the mom can get her kid back. Safe haven has nothing to do with child support still being owed. She can't give up a baby for adoption without either his consent or the court ordering it. The father can call the police and get his child back too if they've been abandoned. The rules are the same in most pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 05:42 PM
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Doesn't mean they're not happening or aren't a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 04:05 PM
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"The Bible says nothing against gay people" where merely 20-30 years ago Christianity as a whole was heavily criticized because books like Leviticus (and others) explicitly do just that, and Christians had no defense against it because its plainly there in black and white... backed up by over 1000 years of doctrine. So which is it? The Bible says nothing about being gay in itself. It says homosexual acts are to be punished by death. It also says the same about adultery in the same book. Adultery…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 01:16 PM
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You shouldn't love sin, but we're all sinners. You should love the person and reject the sin. You don't reject the people or start hating them because of your opinion of their sin. Like so many hating gay people and yet you never hear a word against straight people having premarital sex. Sexual immorality is sexual immorality. The Bible says nothing against gay people. It does define marriage and sexual activity outside of it is a sin for all. People use religion against one and God forgives for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 10:13 PM
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The Bible is quite clear that you are not to hate anyone, love them as your neighbours, and leave judgment of their sins to God.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:52 PM
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I plan on adopting multiple kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 09:38 PM
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Call the police and end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:44 PM
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My number is 0. I asked if they were a virgin and how they feel about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 06:53 PM
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These are my instant deal breakers. -Not being a Christian. -Not thinking as an actual Christian and hiding behind "religious values" to be a hateful bigoted person. -Not living as a Christian and expecting everyone else to overlook your "past mistakes" that you happily made. That includes any sexual or attempted sexual history. -Not taking care of your mind and body to maintain a healthy active lifestyle. -Lacking decent social skills and good manners/behaviours. -Someone selfish that doesn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:59 PM
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There's fill in material for beards, glue on stuff, and tattooing for patchy beards and hairline.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 01:22 AM
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Which you should be continuously doing in your relationship. You haven't stopped meeting people or lost your social skills to flirt. What exactly has been lost? If you don't want a relationship then don't have one, but the 2 arguments that you have made here about meeting people or flirting have nothing to stand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:42 PM
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You should be meeting new people in your life regardless of your relationship status unless you never go out or socialize. In that case it will have nothing to do with being in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:36 PM
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They're the same skill. Flirting is flirting and different women respond to different things. A woman is never going to give you 25 chances to try a different approach that you learned on someone else. You're really not losing anything if you have properly developed your social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:30 PM
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You're supposed to keep flirting and dating your partner throughout your relationship. Those shouldn't be lost skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:22 PM
2

I would feel weird about a hair piece if he didn't tell me about it. I think many guys would feel the same if they discovered their date was bald.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:18 PM
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All actors are wearing make up. I know many men that use concealers for acne. Men grow beards to cover a bad jawline or wear hates to cover balding. Some guys wear lifts in their shoes. Men also wear coloured contacts and hair pieces. Different people are going to have different feelings about it, but let's not pretend that it's not already happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:19 PM
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🤣 No, no sexual activity of any kind until marriage and I wouldn't date a guy that had sexual experience. Telling me that you have sexual demands regardless of the health of our relationship or how you make me feel would be an instant turn off. That's not even considering that you're already comparing me to your ex that hurt you. That would be a giant red flag and instant deal breaker even if he were a virgin too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 04:28 PM
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What good is a single high paying job that can be lost and not necessarily replaced? An education can't be fired or laid off. It's always going to be there to rely on in the future. I care about the investment in his future with his time and effort towards school. I don't need his income nor do I particularly want it, but I do need a man that put in the effort to solidify his future. Markets crash every day. I'd never look for a man to financially support me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:44 PM
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It's definitely separate for me as someone waiting for marriage. I've had other relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:25 PM
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I care that he has the degree. I don't care about the particular school that he attended as long as it has a solid educational reputation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 01:22 PM
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It's a 5. Everyone in my family has a degree. I care more about having the education than I do income or his career path.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 06:21 AM
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I do vet for sexual values. I am a virgin and will only date a virgin that is choosing to wait for religious reasons. It was talked about growing up. People should live how they want, but I am also free to seek a partner that shares my views. I don't look down on others or see them as being worth less, but we're not compatible in any way. You have to vet for things that have meaning to you personally and not what the world says that you should want. It doesn't matter if that's a open relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:18 AM
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I have no need for it. I'm a virgin and my fiancé has had a vasectomy so I could avoid another surgery. We plan to adopt multiple children instead of risking my health or the unnecessary risk of passing my condition on to a future child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 07:50 PM
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I was at plenty of parties, including for my church and at school. I am still a virgin and have never done anything beyond kissing a boyfriend. I don't think it has anything to do with going to parties. Yes, even frat parties. People that want to engage in casual sex will do so regardless of the environment and people that do not want it won't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:39 PM
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What do you consider a party phase? Going to university parties with friends? Drugs? Clubbing on weekends?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 11:03 PM
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Christian
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:32 PM
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I have turned them down. My religious beliefs are too important for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:11 PM
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I only want a virgin partner that shares my beliefs, but he has to have social skills too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:18 PM

Women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:16 PM
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You said I am confusing compatibility and equality and brought up doms and subs as a point as some strange counterpoint. They both choose actively to be in those roles and subs don't stay with people that they don't agree with or submit to things that they don't actually want to do. Their views have aligned and they actually have equal power. They can leave the moment that they disagree. That's an equal relationship. Inequality is not having an equal say in the relationship, which doesn't exist …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 08:17 PM
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If l had to pick it one it would be the virgin, but I wouldn't date a man without relationship experience. I need to know why he hasn't had a relationship before now and why he is suddenly capable of having one if he wanted one previously or why he suddenly wants one if he didn't before.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:34 PM
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It's not about an equal or unequal relationship. It's about wanting the same things as your partner. If you don't want what they want then it becomes an issue or authority that doesn't happen if you're genuinely compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:30 PM
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Compatibility is not having a need to dictate or control things, because you naturally align. That has nothing to do with equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 07:05 PM
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You don't sound "pilled" at all. You're looking for an equal relationship with someone that can be your best friend and is mentally stable to not seek attention from random people and make sound decisions with you. It would only become red pilled if you like and if she can't then I make the decisions. You can't make someone compatible with you by making decisions for them. They're still that person underneath it. To me the redpill seems less about finding a compatible partner than it is saying a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 06:33 PM
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Why are you worried about some girl you just met when you're about to spend a year in federal prison? Do you really think she's going to stay with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 11:55 PM
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It's a feeling of complete disgust that can't be pushed aside. What triggers it for me is being rude, terrible manners, bad hygiene, older men flirting with me, or attempting to be sexual in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 10:39 PM
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That being said, I think if you already went on a date with someone, and it didn't work out, I believe closure is important. I know from my end, I have been thanked for it. I personally always like to know if it was me who fucked up, or if it was just general incompatibility. That has always worked out horribly for me. I learned to answer strictly with I don't see us ever being more than friends. The real reasons were they were rude, terrible manners, and attempted to speak or act sexually despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 06:19 PM
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I would say the least painful way is for either party to just explain their position and (ideally) not be shallow and provide a realistic reason for the incompatibility, so that the "losing" party can improve on themselves if possible. Physical attraction is inherently shallow. It doesn't make someone a bad person to not be or to not find someone else attractive, but it also can't be controlled. Please don't ask for a reason when you're rejected. It's most likely not something in your control li…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 04:24 PM
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I'm flattered by your interest, but I don't feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 02:46 PM
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"Dang, he's hot!" That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 06:43 PM
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It can be easier if you're willing to settle, because everyone single in that age bracket realizes they're no prize. The average age of marriage for men in North America is roughly 32. If you're single at 40 It's because either no one wants you or you don't want to be tied down. The only way to be selected and not be actually desirable is to have money and be used for it, or to be with someone equally undesirable. Money is attractive, but it doesn't make the man attractive. You're pretty screwed…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:33 PM
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It's only different for women that think it's different. The opinion of men on the subject of how women should see it is irrelevant, as is the opinion of women on the subject of how men should see it. Your opinion has no bearing, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 05:16 PM
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That's not what I said at all. I never said him paying more or him helping at home makes her a prostitute. I said she's a prostitute if he's paying it all and then doing everything at home while she provides nothing but sex. Relationships cannot be one sided unless someone is being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:12 PM
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He met her as a prostitute and originally paid her for sex before asking her to move in. He's never been anything but a client.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 01:36 AM
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I covered that much earlier in another comment. Nevada only allows licensed brothels and only occuring in those brothels. All other forms of prostitution are considered illegal and punishable by arrest. The escorts themselves have to be registered with the office of the sheriff and undergo continuous health testing. There are several laws regarding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:10 AM
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They were married in Nevada and Nevada has a clause in their law saying it's void if the agreement was severely unfair (unconscionable) when it was signed; and before signing the agreement. Saying sex is required would fall under that since it would violate consent and bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/23 12:02 AM
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She lives in California. Here's a quick site saying that it absolutely can't be put in there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:31 PM
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I don’t think that they're incompetent, but I doubt anyone either wanted to tell her no or that she cared if she was told that it could void it. Lifestyle clauses are becoming more common and I have heard of some ridiculous ones, but they're definitely more likely to get it voided and have you look like a jerk that intentionally tried to screw over your spouse before you were even married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:28 PM
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It's not misogynistic to have a 50/50 relationship and a lot of men and women have them. Most people take care of each other in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:20 PM
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No, you can have a clause about cheating. That's perfectly legal, because it doesn't violate their consent to have sex with you or not. The other clause voids it because you are saying have sex with me or l have the right to legally punish you with this piece of paper and the court. That's going to be considered coercion or prostitution and both are illegal. You can definitely have an infidelity clause that has a financial penalty in the divorce if you can prove cheating. Cheating is 100% only t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:19 PM
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I wouldn't date a guy with a sexual past because it goes against my beliefs. It has nothing to do with jealousy or insecurity. I think maybe men believe that women are comparing them to past sexual experiences and I don't think that's actually happening a lot. I don't know if men are doing that with their experiences with women so it's assumed that it's happening? I've never heard women comparing guys sexually. I think it comes down to why would they be with me with if they want someone else? Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 11:00 PM
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Yes, but this entire thread was sparked by saying you can put sexual demands in a prenup. You can, but it also voids the prenup and is not enforceable by a court. Any divorce for any normal reason would result in a prenup being enforced as long as it doesn't violate any standing laws. You can divorce for a lack of sex, but you can't stipulate that you give me this much sex or these acts or I can financially punish you and divorce over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:31 PM
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That's true, but a sexual clause for a demand for sex can't be a part of it. It would void that. The terms of the prenup would apply to other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:12 PM
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That's completely separate than they stopped having sex with me. They wouldn't be considered married.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:10 PM
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Sexual behaviour isn't the same as illegal behaviour. Contracting sex or trying to force it both count as illegal and cannot be enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:09 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 10:06 PM
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Close to mid 20's religious virgins, just got engaged, not under 6 months. I bought him several things including sweatshirts, hats, gift card for the apple store, favourite snacks, and some little knickknacks. He probably spent roughly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 09:41 PM
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Okay, so how long can you date before you have to marry her since wasting time isn't a social construct? A year? 2 years? How many women do you get to have casual sex with considering wasting time, risking pregnancy, spreading stds, and sleeping around in general go against "good cooperation" between the genders? You're fine with waiting until marriage to prevent those things right? Tell me how time is alloted and respected in this worldview. Forced marriage still happens all over the world. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 08:04 PM
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That depends on who they marry. It's usually a 50/50 split. Don't marry a housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:57 PM
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Casual sex was still a thing and dating multiple people goes back to the 1920's. Dating in itself wasn't really a thing for a very long time as fathers decided who got their daughters. No, it doesn't have anything to do with instincts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:52 PM
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2-3 dates is your personal guideline and it's fine to want the same in a partner. That's why you have adult conversations about expectations and agree to them. People can have whatever expectations they want. I could see 20 guys for 1st dates. I know within 2-3 dates if I want to keep seeing them for more too. No one is entitled to anything, but it's ridiculous to blame a gender for something that both sides frequently do. People that have causal sex should always be aware that it's only casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:26 PM
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That's fine, but it's still the expectation of exclusivity without any type of relationship. You can have whatever standards you want. I expect a man to wait until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:08 PM
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You can divorce her, but you can't require something that requires consent from another party. You agree to remain or leave. It's still a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 07:00 PM
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Can you contract a relationship? Yes, arranged marriage. Can you force a spouse to have sex? No, marital rape still exists. Can you divorce them for a lack of sex? Absolutely. Can you legally punish a person fot it? No. Your prenup is automatically voided legally if you attempt to violate standing law. Can your lawyers put it in and allow you to both sign it? Yes, they can still do that. You agreeing to it doesn't change the law and law is what matters in a court. Then, legally, the money that g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:32 PM
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I would agree if they're in a loveless marriage where she's contributing nothing at home. I disagree if she’s taking care of the house, cooking, raising kids, but not working outside of the house. He's financially providing in exchange for those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 05:00 PM
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I didn't say only. Sex isn't a gift and women don't see it that way. It's a problem if men see sex as a gift or something that they should be getting. Sex should be occurring as a natural result of desire and a happy home. Most relationships are not prostitution or men doing everything. All relationships are conditional and they have to be, but you choose the conditions that you allow yourself to live under and no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:35 PM
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They're aware. That's why they only have sex with guys that they want. It's a mutual act, not something one gives or receives in a relationship. Again, it doesn't sound like you have ever seen a healthy normal relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:30 PM
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I spent $300 on my boyfriend for the day. We're both virgins. It doesn't sound like you have ever seen a healthy or normal relationship where both parties care. Sex isn't a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:28 PM
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I have never heard of it and any man that's not a loser isn't going to tolerate it. How common is it really? How many men do you know that are paying all of the bills and then coming home to do everything for her and himself while she does nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:20 PM
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If you want a prostitute then go for it. ATM > men with demands? It depends on what you want from life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:18 PM
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Men that do all of the housework, cooking, and pay the bills are also unicorns. Making less money and contributing a lesser amount as agreed upon is not the same as not contributing. How many prostitutes have heard of financially contributing to their clients? 0. Any one sided relationship is rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:16 PM
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He doesn't say, but he does say roommate and fwb, not gf or exclusive and she might still be working. I doubt OP knows that answer. She might even be working out of his house while he's at work. Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:13 PM
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Rent free isn't not helping around the house, cooking, and cleaning either. How many guys have girlfriends that live there and do nothing and he expects to do everything for her on top of no rent? That's not common. Let's not pretend that they're the same. Money is being exchanged in this situation when he pays for everything, has no relationship with this girl, and she has sex with him for that rent, utilities, food, and his cleaning services on her behalf. She's a tenant that pays with sex. OP…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 04:06 PM
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Women also give their time, gifts, and even pay for things for boyfriends. Most men are not out there doing the cleaning, cooking, and paying the bills. It's shared. That's no form of prostitution at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:56 PM
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They're not ready for that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:45 PM
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Transactions don't equal prostitution. Transactions to get sex equal prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:36 PM
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in a sense a wife is also a prostitute to a point if we use this definition Prostitutes don't work to pay your bills or take care of you. They don't have your kids or feed you. They don't do anything except have sex. That is their job. Wives don't even have to have sex to get your money. They're entitled to half of it. No, they are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 03:25 PM
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Nevada is the only U.S. state where prostitution is legally permitted in some form. Prostitution is legal in all but seven of Nevada's 17 counties, although only six allow it in every municipality. Seven counties have at least one active brothel, which mainly operate in isolated, rural areas. The state's most populated counties, Clark (which contains Las Vegas) and Washoe (which contains Reno), are among those that do not permit prostitution. It is also illegal in Nevada's capital, Carson City, …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:53 PM
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Because you can't contract sex, just like prostitution is still a crime even if both consent to it. Someone always has the right to revoke consent to sex too, even during it, and it's considered rape to keep going. Sex is an act that requires active continous present consent. You can contract a maid service and can put it in there that one party is responsible for cleaning, but not illegal acts like prostitution or rape. It legally becomes prostitution or coercive the moment your marriage hinges…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:36 PM
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It's okay to have hard standards too and to say no to anyone that doesn't meet them. It's your life and you have to live with the consequences good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:17 PM
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She's not living there for free. That's payment for the sex. She's a prostitute that he has hired in exchange for those things rather than cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 02:05 PM
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You can have whatever standards you want and so can other people. The only time the "It's different" argument is brought up is when the other person uses those same standards against you. No, it's not different and you can both feel the same way and not date each other. You're not compatible. That's 100% okay and there's nothing to argue about. It's no different than any other standard. Many men want younger woman, because youth is attractive, and they have less baggage and experience from life.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:58 PM
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I've seen men complain about the very same things. It's not a gender thing. "I expect a girl I am interested in to only date me until we decide if we want a relationship or not." Those men are demanding exclusivity over a single date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:47 PM
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Maybe it's some sort of denial to paying a sex worker for their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:38 PM
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You can put anything in a prenup, but a judge will most likely throw that it. You can't contract sex in most places, because prostitution is illegal and forced sex is rape. It's not legally enforceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:23 PM
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She's not an fwb. She's a prostitute that he's housing and fully financially supporting in exchange for sex. Fwbs have sex for fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:07 PM
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You look older. That's when you're working full time, guys start thinning, you're usually not as physically active, you develop fine lines and gray hair too. Those things beginning happening after 25. You start showing the stress of adult life in your looks. It's not attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:30 AM
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Maybe for you, but not for me. I can't be turned on by a guy that I don't also like. That's why it's sexual attraction and not only physical attractive. You can be an attractive jerk, but you won't ever be seen as an option for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:22 AM
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It's more than physical, but that's when people begin showing signs of aging. Most people have found their partners by then as well. Older men also tend to have a lot of baggage and different levels of life experience. I don't find any of that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 01:12 AM
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Chad is any guy that a particular woman find sexually attractive. I find probably half of the men my age to be attractive. I've never found any older guy sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:51 AM
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I don't find older men physically attractive. I am 23 now and wouldn't date older than 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/23 12:09 AM
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I would have an issue with a person that has a bad ongoing relationship. It's a sign of dysfunction that they're actively engaging with by choice. I would prefer someone with a close and healthy relationship with their family, but I wouldn't take issue with someone that cut out unhealthy abusive parents. What I find more odd are the people that don't have a good/close relationship with family and they really never have a reason for it. "We're not like that." That's a person that l wouldn't date,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 04:14 PM
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Women already approach men that interest them. Some will directly ask them out and others openly flirt or let it be known that they're open to them making a move. This is common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 08:33 PM
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I don't mind the height, but the weight conversion gives me feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/23 06:20 PM
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They're equally repulsive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 08:03 PM
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I went to class in my pyjamas! 10/10 recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 04:05 PM
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Flirting with someone is demanding an answer. They flirt back or they don't. That's your answer. Saying you want to get to know someone means you want to get to know someone and see if you would want more. It's not saying date me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:06 PM
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That's not doing that. It's saying I don't know you yet, but I find you attractive. It's less forward that flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:31 PM
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If you want a traditional relationship then you need to fill those traditional roles yourself. Just like you can't sleep with half of the town and expect a man to take care of you financially while you're at home. That's how it's always been.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:21 PM
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What exactly do you think your new acquaintances are expressing when you suggest that they flirt with you? Perhaps you should add a time line to that flirting unless you really mean to say keep your mouth shut unless I make it known that I like you. You're saying flirt with me, but also that you don't want to hear if they're interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:14 PM
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I don’t think any man expects this or not enough men to be relevant. Men don’t have the luxury of being delusional. Hard enough to get a date in the first place. How many times do you see on this sub that if she's not having sex by date # he's out? It's very common. If she’s interacting with a broke, mentally ill man then his looks are probably high and she’s ignoring other factors. She's not. They're on here complaining about hypergamy and women won't settle for average. Average doesn't pay the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:09 PM
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Not every woman is open to being cold approached or having men she doesn't know flirting with her. I am one of those women that would instantly not be interested in him. People like different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 05:05 PM
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You can do both at the same time. "I'm interested in getting to know you and seeing where this goes or if there's more than friendship." That's honest and makes your intentions known allowing you to get to know each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:50 PM
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You are the one living in a Disney fantasy. People like who they like and they date them. There is no we're perfect and complete each other. That's not real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:19 PM
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I was friend with a girl over Internet and i was pretty much a perfect match for her and she rejected me just because of distance and because she had someone else in mind. You were not a perfect match. She didn't feel the same and she wanted a different guy and type of relationship. You weren't any type of match.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:17 PM
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This works in reverse too. Men want traditional relationships where they lead and make decisions while expecting her to defer to his judgment, be low n count, and take care of the house and family. Meanwhile many of them are broke, mentally ill, and can't fill those traditional male roles that gave that authority to be trusted by a woman to support them and make good decisions. They expect a woman with a career to walk in the door and treat him like he's the second coming of Jesus. There's delus…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 03:51 PM
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I haven't used dating apps, but I don't see them differently than in real life. I wouldn't be comfortable going out with them immediately anymore than I would be if some guy cold approached me. I don't know this man and would want to get to know him before that happened. If I was interested in meeting him quickly I would invite him to a group outing with my friends rather than a proper date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 01:58 PM
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I listed that as a red one! But maybe a guy not looking for commitment? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:26 PM
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Move along to the next and leave them to their opinions. That's all that can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:41 PM
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Okay, you're saying that's what men hear you say. That's a relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:24 PM
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There are good and bad people. Both of those type can be good partners or bad partners depending on what someone is seeking. A good person isn't necessarily a good partner for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:11 PM
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Some of these sound toxic for any person, like not being able to respect a person based on their income or never feeling grateful or satisfied when others do things for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 08:06 PM
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No! I will only accept answers of aliens, AI technology, or nuclear war. There are no other options!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:32 PM
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Why is the world going to end?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:28 PM
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Most of my flags could go either way depending on who you ask. I am a virgin and staying that way until marriage. l have extremely high behavioural expectations. l don't ask for anything in a partner that l don't offer myself. l can't have children, but I would love to adopt some one day. I have daddy issues. You haven't met him, but trust me, he is an issue for any man that wants to date me. We have a great relationship and are very close. I am very religious and live by the teachings of my fai…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:20 PM
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I'll stay single. I don't want a killer or a guy that comes across as creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:09 PM
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Thank you! I am 99% certain that I found him. I wish you the best finding your partner too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:31 PM
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It's the most important thing for me, but they have to be a real Christian and not using religion as a cover to hate others or trying to control them. If you're not that then you're not an option. After that it's if I find you attractive. If that works then it moves on to personality and compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:26 PM
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Yes, because it's the values behind it that matter to me. I want a partner that shares the same values and has lived up to them. You're as good as your word. What are you telling me about your beliefs if you haven't lived up to them yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:20 PM
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I've never struggled to find a relationship with attractive men that feel the same through church and social circles. I would absolutely stay a virgin before settling into a life with someone that I don't want. It wouldn't be fair to either of us and would cause resentment. Everyone on here constantly claims that attractive men either can't or won't control themselves sexually, but it's not the truth. Having options doesn't mean exercising them, especially for men that genuinely want the same th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 02:08 PM
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I won't have sex before marriage and l make that clear before dating. If he moved for anything sexual I would immediately stop seeing him, because it's not negotiable. I like normal men that aren't control freaks and still manage to have their own opinions, but he has to be attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 01:56 PM
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If it's not my body then it's not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 10:46 AM
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I have never met a pro choice virgin, not saying they don't exist but I've never seen it. We do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:42 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/wk9ys9/women_really_dislike_autistic_men/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button He's autistic, but good job trying to call someone out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:20 PM
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Yes, he is autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:15 PM
14

You don't get to be retroactively angry for things that you happily accepted because someone else was treated differently. You didn't have their relationship and people are not interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:23 PM
19

Aww! What a sweet story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 10:11 PM
17

I wouldn't be dating him if I wanted to be treated like a princess so I would have no reason to care as long as he wasn't abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:55 PM
28

I wouldn't date a guy that didn't treat me how I expect to be treated. Why would I care about how he treated an ex if it was his choice at the time? A woman that cares about those things isn't going to be dating him for it to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:35 PM
28

I understand some men, but the last time I checked you weren't a hivemind either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 06:59 PM
5

If I am waiting for my spouse then I am waiting for a guy that l actually want. He has to be a virgin and the guy that I want. Otherwise I have no interest in being with him at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:55 AM
7

Even virgins want spouses they find attractive. I'd rather be a virgin for life otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:39 AM
7

I wouldn't have sex with an arranged husband that I didn't want. Either you're supporting rape or you're not. You don't want to have sex because of a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:01 AM
2

See a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:58 PM
2

Because most people choose not to wait and it's fine, like you said. The only problem is when guys in that 90% demand a virgin. I'm not dating someone that had sex. They're not a bad person, but we don't share the same values. I'm 23 and my bf is 26. People that choose to wait still wait and it's totally fine to make either choice. I would rather remain single for life than choose someone that doesn't feel the same as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:25 PM
5

People that want to have premarital sex have it and should be allowed to have it. You can find a partner if you're a virgin and want to date someone with your values. You're screwed if you're trying to have sex with anything that walks and then want a partner that's waiting for marriage. My guy friends have never had any issue finding virgin women at church or in our social circles. We're all consciously choosing to wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:11 PM
8

Many people choose not to have sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 10:52 PM
2

Absolutely not for multiple reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 06:00 PM
1

I don't think anyone explains why they're not interested, but I would certainly tell them that I don't find them physically attractive if they asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 04:26 PM
1

Go read the truerateme rating guides. Your personal attraction is subjective. What percentage of the population has model tier symmetry and looks is not and apparently its less than 1%. Objective attractiveness is about facial harmony and symmetry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:53 PM
1

It unfortunate, but the guys that are acting with malice have the same actions. It's better to be completely direct as early as possible with your intentions if you're not exceptionally good at reading social cues and subtlety flirting, because 99.9% of the time it's not going to be that this is a fairytale and they feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:45 PM
4

I don't think it's possible for mutual feelings to ever get to that point without other signs being there from both parties. If you find yourself wanting more or developing a crush it's best to mention it early. Call it out if you think someone is flirting with you in a joking way that's again appropriate for your current relationship. "If you keep flirting with me like that I'm going to think that you want to be more than my friend." Most of these instances don't involve flirting or anything li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:25 PM
7

Guys should never be confessing romantic feelings to friends. I've gotten a little crush on you and would like to know if you'd want to see if there's more between us isn't confessing feelings. Telling your friend that you're in love with them is and it's completely inappropriate if you're not in a romantic relationship with that person. The feelings aren't too strong too soon. They're completely inappropriate for the relationship that you currently have between you. You are saying I no longer v…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:06 PM
3

An objective 8 is model tier and they don't make up 20%. They don't make up even 2% of the population. Looks are not evenly distributed. The vast majority of people are between a 4-6.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:54 PM
2

You can get yourself rated to know for certain on r/truerateme
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:36 AM
15

An 8 is a literal model and well above average. A 9 is a supermodel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 01:17 AM
1

I don't think women are doing it to be polite like the OP says. It's not polite nor rude, but simply factual to say I'm not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:04 AM
14

It's more having feelings that aren't appropriate to the relationship that you currently have with them. You can't know someone is soul mate or that they're perfect based on limited things that you see in a friendship. You have to be making an image in your head of how they would react to certain things and that's not reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:48 PM
18

No!! I have had a guy that was a friend for years randomly tell me that he was love with me and I was his soul mate. They are most definitely not the same. Keep your feelings out of it. Maybe we could grab dinner as a date vs maybe we can grab dinner as a date and you can live up to this fake relationship that I am having in my head. Those are not the same. Friends are not in love with their friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:33 PM
33

That's a tough question, but a lot depends on how you do it. Some men ambush a woman friend and confess their feelings. That's a terrible approach and extremely creepy. That will end a friendship almost instantly if she doesn't feel the same. I would like to see where a date goes is very different from I am in love with you and you're my soulmate. You can develop feelings during a friendship and then have a conversation if it's appropriate. Are they single? Are they open to a relationship? At th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:22 PM
1

Too many people say let's hang out and then call it a date in their head. That's not a date. You can't date someone without them knowing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 10:02 PM
1

You were hanging out as friends and they assumed you were dating? That's super awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 09:06 PM
2

I have an entire day of "pick a card" choices to give him presents and we eating at home.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:09 PM
11

Your friends think that you specifically are bad with women. I have single guy friends that I jump on the chance of introducing them to people. I also know several men, acquaintances, that would cause me to have instant amnesia if they asked if knew any single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 08:00 PM
1

Dating to me is going on dates, but it's not being in a relationship with that person. My dating life at uni was filled with many dates. It's not an official boyfriend. That's dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 07:27 PM
2

I say exactly what I wrote. I am flattered by your interest, but I don't feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 06:53 PM
14

I am flattered if it was done in a respectful way. I am not flattered if you're rude or sexual, but it's nice when a guy expresses polite interest and it takes a lot of courage to express that to someone and risk rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 11:30 PM
8

My boyfriend reads it with me and laughs at some of the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:30 PM
2

I ask my parents, grandparents, and friends for advice. I don't generally ask people that don't know my situation. Asking for perspective is slightly different, but I probably wouldn't do that online either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 10:14 PM
42

I am always upfront when rejecting someone. I'm flattered by your interest, but I don't feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 09:46 PM
5

I don't think that makes a difference to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 07:22 PM
8

I wonder what word the use to describe the gender of their older, married, mother who birthed them. Is she also a subhuman who doesn't get the title of "woman" in their eyes? Female
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:58 PM
2

It can be said to the degree of attractive men are getting casual sex with attractive women. That's what most guys are complaining about on here. Chad gets this and Chad gets that. Why would anyone expect differently? "Game" and money are not going to make you physically or sexually attractive. Attractive people end up together.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 06:55 PM
7

I have seen pregnant people dating men that aren't the father. I've seen men dating women with newborns and help care for the child. I know there are men that absolutely want nothing to do with those girls, but l have never seen or heard of any single girls that didn't have options because they had children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:26 PM
1

Of course. I have the same requirements for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 05:13 PM
8

I would pay for my own massage and question my relationship. I don't date controlling insecure people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:59 PM

I think it was small talk. Maybe she thinks you would like kids one day and was suggesting you going that route.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:07 PM
1

Of course I like men. My best friend is a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 06:57 PM
1

Guys approached me after class or at church. I don't mind people making conversation in those situations, but I wouldn't care for a random stranger to approach me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 07:27 PM
1

What woman do you see saying it doesn't matter if I find him unattractive as long as he has these other traits? Being nice and other traits aren't enough and every person is going to decide if physical attraction outweighs other traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 06:47 PM
8

People can choose to judge whatever they want. I personally consider it all. I don't expect anyone to be forthcoming with their past, but if I expect an honest answer to continue seeing you. Lying is a deal breaker. My potential partner has always been free to judge any aspect of my life. People being hypocritical with their standards doesn't really matter if they're honest, because their partner has to accept them as well. I'm a virgin and several men have been upset when I rejected them for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:44 PM
1

For women who aren’t necessarily into these things. Do you feel this image has any effect on you or how you date Absolutely none. We're in different dating worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 04:54 PM
1

Ultimate expression for them doesn't mean the highlight or best thing about their relationship. It means it's something that they would never share with someone else because they don't have that bond with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 10:02 PM
1

Wanting sex and material things does not equal love. That's not the same as expressing love through sex or gifts. If your husband bought you a tennis bracelet because he wants to give you a gift of love and appreciation you don't think to yourself that he thinks you're a gold digger or can be bought. It's a gift. Some people feel the same way about sex. Seeing sex as something sacred that belongs to a marriage as something you only share with that person is not "wanting sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 09:40 PM
2

I don't get jealous and I am not insecure. I will set you free to do better if you insinuate that you can do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 06:27 PM
1

I do charity work constantly. I work with people that I don't like on a personal level, but I still care about what happens to them and their well being. I want them to succeed in life and be happy regardless of my personal feelings towards them. The ultimate expression of love is going to come down to the individual. Can it be sex? Yes, for 2 people that hold it in that regard and both wait for their future spouse and see it that way. Can it be showing that you care? Yes, for someone that isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:46 PM
1

I still care about people that I don't like as people. That's not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 05:37 PM
1

The incompatible part is the tit for tat aspect. You're not fitting with them naturally and it's not unreasonable to want a partner that has the same values and standards as yourself without what is essentially paying them through favours to act like someone they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 03:00 PM
4

I like stereotypically attractive men that are average height or taller with an athletic body, not bodybuilders, for physical looks. Personality is someone kind, empathetic, sporty, active, likes to be busy, and has Christian that beliefs and adheres to their faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 05:36 PM
1

Too often in this sub and elsewhere I see people who view cleanliness as if their partner not meeting their expectations is fucking up, or that they deserve an award for doing the dishes, doing the laundry, folding the clothes more than their partner when they are simply pushing their higher standards onto someone who loves them for nothing and then blaming them for not stepping up. They are not compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 03:57 PM
0

I believe that people that experience fomo never wanted only one partner and felt that they had no other choice in it. They're different groups. Like the men that tried to sleep around and got rejected demanding a virgin. They're different from people rejecting sex due to personal beliefs and only wanting to experience sex in a marriage. Edit: That conversation would lead to an instant divorce with my future husband. We would no longer be compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 02:25 PM
2

Show me a case where he wasn't the father, never claimed the child, denied the child to the court, and was assigned paternity and child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:20 PM
1

Only if he doesn't contest paternity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:15 PM
1

If he has a baby with another woman he's paying alimony to his ex and child support to the mom. Anyone can leave at any time and possibly get alimony. Most men aren't out earning their partner significantly. Alimony also depends on the length of the major, the level of dependence, and if you live in a place with no fault divorce. It's only ordered permanently for long term marriages and the spouse receiving it can't become financially independent. It's usually only for a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 03:38 AM
3

That's a risk any time a person allows a stay at home spouse or marries someone that earns significantly less regardless of gender and divorces. Stay at home parents are also extremely rare. Both of those are choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 03:27 AM
2

He can leave her. He wouldn't have to pay child support as long as he didn't claim the child at birth. She could also choose an abortion and there's no child. A cheating husband can't make those decisions for his mistress. There's no primary custody before a divorce and there's rarely child support for 50/50 custody. Just as a woman can leave because she doesn't want his child in her house or her money spent on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:57 AM
2

The child born of a cheating husband always gets child support. You are taking money from your wife in that situation. It's less marital income. If a cheating wife gets an abortion there's no child to support. Only she can control if she gets an abortion. A husband that knows also has no financial obligation and the child would get support from their father. The cheating is still equally as bad, but the financial conditions would be very different for each side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 01:46 AM
2

B
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:35 PM
15

They want the best "deal" for themselves and their daughters. They don't want an educated woman that doesn't need to rely on him and could easily leave him. They also don't want their daughters to be trapped and stuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:34 PM
12

I think the cheating is equally bad for both. Assuming they both know the only difference is that a wife can choose to get an abortion and end the pregnancy. The husband can not have a say if his mistress gets and abortion and child support isn't voluntary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:59 PM
1

I wouldn't care if a guy had dated 10 men. I wouldn't be with a man that's not a virgin waiting for marriage. It's the personal restraint and compatible views that matter, not the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:11 PM
2

They're a good conversationalist, always at ease, interesting, make other people feel at ease, and have the ability to draw others to them. They're comfortable and open.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:02 PM
1

I keep a specific distance with men on various topics so that the boundaries are always clear on where we stand. I don't want this "emotional closeness" to be confused for interest from him or for my partner looking at it and being uncomfortable. If I can't talk about it with my dad and my brothers then I can't talk about it with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:14 PM
3

They still see you as a guy and it's a girls outing. That's different than a mixed friend meet up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:39 PM
4

Those men can go see sex workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 04:24 PM
15

This already exists. Most girls don't want to act like prostitutes for money, especially without a ring if they're not attracted to that man. Men that can get better options and dump women already do it. "Normalizing it" isn't going to make more men attractive. If you can't do it now then it's never happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:23 PM
13

There's nothing stopping them from doing it now. No amount of social conditioning is going to make more older men sexually attractive for something casual to younger women, just as there's no one forcing men to date women that slept around and want to settle down later.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 03:07 PM
-1

It's extremely important to be able to cultivate and maintain good friendships. You don't need a lot of them, but you do need to have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:45 PM
3

Desirable partners don't need to be millionaires, be home owners, or have graduate degrees to be wanted. They most likely had long term partners before they had success. 30 is now the average age that men get married and not when they are finally beginning to look for a partner. Options are extremely limited at that point and women are going to question why you haven't been sought out as a partner or been able to keep one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:38 AM
4

American statistics 8% of people are millionaires and 13% have graduate degrees. Those include men and women. "A few men" are gaining significant value in the dating market, very few. That doesn't suddenly make them more sexually attractive. It makes them targets for gold diggers and divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:07 AM
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I think older men and women are both somewhat delusional. I am in my early 20's and would never consider dating an "older man", not even a 30 year old. 25 is my limit. There's no benefit to me dating older. You're not more attractive and you have emotional baggage the same as women. You either have slept around and couldn't get the woman you wanted or you were unattractive as a partner. Neither of those are appealing. You need to consider that you haven't been chosen and are older than average. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 07:20 PM
9

I take it all into account. Any woman that loves her guy and finds him sexually attractive sees him as her Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:19 PM
4

I won't have sex until marriage, but the first guy has several obvious deal breakers starting with the drug use. That would be enough for an automatic no without his other issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:14 PM
2

Religious values
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:04 PM
14

I would choose to stay a virgin for life and be friends with number 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:50 PM
9

Maybe 23-25. I would want to know why you haven't had a relationship through school or university if you wanted one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:34 AM
7

No. I'm in the 20-25 range and wouldn't date a guy older than 25. Those guys aren't physically attractive to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:29 AM
1

Your love for your animals inspires me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 04:14 PM
2

🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 02:50 PM
3

Merry Christmas!! I hope you all have a wonderful blessed day! 🎄
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 01:39 PM

I'm not even 25 and have cancer. Her illness and death have nothing to do with her career. Her passing while pregnant had nothing to do with her career. None of this is related. What's the point? If she did it sooner she would have had kids to orphan and miss their mom? That's fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 01:44 AM
3

We're both virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/22 10:44 PM
1

I do tell people about my less welcoming characteristics. I am very religious and I expect my partner to live up to the same moral standards. I have no issue walking away from any person that chooses to live differently. My beliefs will always come before any relationship. I am intentionally seeking someone like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 05:56 PM
49

No one should be shamed for their consensual legal sex life between 2 adults. You can't call women whores for having sex and then get pissed off that they can also talk shit about you too for your sexual choices. You're both the problem and everyone needs to mind their own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 12:09 PM
2

I think it's weird unless they have children together. The only man I call daddy is my actual daddy. No daddy issues here. It would be a complete turn off if someone asked me to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 10:37 PM
8

"I'm flattered, but I am not interested."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 11:06 PM
16

I don't think that they have one. It's like asking what effect does prostitution have on dating. It's a small minority of women doing those things and most of them are probably in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 09:16 PM
7

What do you have to offer your equal? Yourself and nothing else. There's nothing extraordinarily impressive about you as a person that stands out. It all comes down to finding that person attractive enough, connecting, and being compatible. It's feelings and people don't like or want to hear that, because you can't make them happen. You don't live with a career or achievements. You live with a person and how they make you feel outside of those things. Those other things are the baseline. They ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 12:24 PM
1

He said I considered myself too good to endure his trauma. Relationships shouldn't involve trauma. That's abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 02:26 PM
0

Your idea of a bad boy, if it's him, is someone that speaks up against bullying and protects people he cares about when needed. He doesn't smoke, rebel, have a criminal record, fight for fun, escalate situations, get drunk, or act out. He's extremely respectful of everyone until they force him not to be that person. He cares a great deal about how his reputation and standing are perceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 11:26 AM
2

I love my church boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 12:25 AM
1

There are many men that don't want children or are open to adopting instead. Don't stress over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 10:00 PM
8

I have dated 1 single parent. We had to go on dates during the day because he had 0 free nights for dating. You have to make concessions if you're dating a parent. I wouldn't do it again for many reasons, but none of them are related to the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 05:43 PM
1

I dress very similarly to the first 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 06:52 PM

Kissing has been written in history for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 10:54 PM
2

These men don't get it. THEY are the ones impressed by men having sex. It's not an accomplishment. Most people figure it out as teens. The ones I see the most complaints from about n count are men that slept around or are self admitted incels that failed to get laid and now want a woman that chose not to do it. Most people don't like hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 02:31 PM
2

I complain about it and I'm a virgin. Many of these men seem to believe that they can try to have sex with everything and then demand someone that has restraint or believes that sex should only be had in a marriage. I want someone that shares my beliefs. There are multiple men on here demanding virgins while they have slept with 5+ people. They're free to seek it. I even wish them luck to find it, but I don't know of any intentionally waiting women that are going to accept that behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 01:42 PM
5

Your argument makes it worse for women that care about sexual history. A man with a high n count has made effort to have causal sex that they claim ruins women, dumpster dived, or paid for it. Men saying, "No, it's different.", is not going to change our minds either. I can't respect, want, or be with a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 11:31 AM
1

The gap is the highest in the 60's-70's and has dropped for men and women in proportion throughout time since WW2, except for Vietnam and that's reflected. It falls off significantly for both men and women after WW2 ended. It's no higher or lower in proportion to women than at any other time and men of marriage age weren't known for dropping dead then or now. We are discussing 1950 where there was no war and no rise in accidental deaths listed and no major discrepancy in death between men and wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:17 PM
2

You can look at the mortality rates for yourself. They have only declined over time, but not at a rate any different from women in the same time frame. Turns out they weren't dying off in droves. From 1950 to 1990 the death rate fell off by 1/3 and it's attributed to cardiovascular disease, which hasn't ever been common in men 20-30 of marrying age. There is a handy little graph in there that shows mortality due to accidental death and injury that you might find interesting. The rate is also pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:50 PM
2

Here you go. Provided directly by the US census. Only 20% of women didn't marry in 1950. Looks like about 27% of men didn't marry. That was the highest rate of marriage that the US had since with a significant spike at that time. Here is an added bonus showing the marriage rate of US for 118 years. Turns out that you were wrong. That marrying young and for life thing that most people did only lasted for a decade, despite strict monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:27 PM
2

I'd like to see that stat but did you also know how common workplace fatalities war casualties etc were back then? At least that amount were busy dying in coal mines factory accidents and on foreign shores while women sat at their warm home bitching about how unfair it was that they didn't get to fuck chad. The men in the census were very much alive. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:11 PM
6

This was your perfect time in American history where divorce didn't happen and young people were married for life. Not a damn thing was different. The same amount of men were alone and sexless with strict monogamy. Is strict monogamy somehow unfair too and we need to get into forced marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:09 PM
2

Here's your US census data. The only thing that has changed is marriage rates if you married young and didn't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:02 PM
4

Really strange that you consider people being abused and forced to be with others on the same level as not being chosen as a partner when it comes to unfairness. You being single doesn't hurt other people or impede their rights. You forcing others does impede on tbem. Oh here we go again with women being homophovic and hateful and suggesting homosexuality is a choice when it suits their disgust for icky average men. Most men are in relationships, not a small minority. Not attracted is not attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:57 PM
8

Strict monogamy? You mean when divorce wasn't allowed even in cases of abuse, marital rape wasn't a crime, and women had to get married in order to financially survive? That's not strict monogamy. That's property. Maybe you're talking about the time when women didn't have a choice and their fathers made that choice for them? You're definitely not talking about any time where women had a choice to not be married and to be single, because that would be unfair to your one man for every woman. Sex a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:28 PM
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People aren't "a piece" to get from others. There's nothing unfair about being single or never having sex, because it requires consent from the other person to have a partner. That is perfectly fair. Not fucking you isn't you being treated unfairly. My bf buying me a present isn't somehow being unfair to women that don't get presents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 08:01 PM
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Then see a sex worker. This shit is insane comparing feelings of rejection to being the victim of a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 10:58 PM
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Of course. It's not unfair for anyone to not date a person that they don't want. I am waiting for marriage and expect the same in my partner. Is it unfair for sexually active people to want a virgin? No, but it's hypocritical if you want a virgin because you judge people that act like yourself to be unworthy as partners. That makes you equally unworthy. Unfair and hypocritical aren't the same thing. There's nothing unfair about dating because it's a choice to do it and the other person has to al…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 03:13 PM
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Since PPD women mostly claim to want to be in a loving relationship, doesn't the actions of the majority of women (easy access to casual sex) contradict (difficult access to marriage) your words? I only date men that are intending to wait until marriage, but people are allowed to want different things. The goal is to find someone with your shared beliefs. The only "issue" that I have come across is men that aren't virgins getting mad when virgin women don't want them. I kept it moving and focuse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 12:53 PM
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Not all women engage in those behaviours and they are only hypocrites if they do it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:27 PM
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Read the rest of my post. I wouldn't date a cross dresser. I wouldn't date a non virgin. None of that is because of hypocrisy. Women are only hypocrites if they themselves engage in those behaviours with other women and refuse to date men that do the same. Other women aren't hypocrites for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:20 PM
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I would date a bi man, but I wouldn't date any man that has engaged in any sexual activity with either gender. Dancing isn't a sexual activity. Cross dressing isn't a gay thing, but I wouldn't date a man that wants to dress like a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:16 PM
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Rude or disrespectful Blames their flaws/lack of success/not being liked on other people/society Lacks accountability for their mistakes Comes from a bad family or has a bad relationship with their family Doesn't have direction or ambition in life or isn't taking active steps to reach goals Doesn't want to adopt children Shows hypocritical behaviours Liars Doesn't value their physical/mental health and doesn't take steps to care for both Doesn't have healthy friendships with both men and women D…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 11:49 AM
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You're claiming your 9 year anniversary is before her 25th birthday. 24-9 is 15, not 16. Was she 16 when you got married or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/22 01:22 AM
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Women are more likely to say a bad relationship or not being happy is worse than being single. People that base their self esteem on their ability to get a partner are naturally going to be less content while single. I think men are more afraid of being alone because they don't build deeper friendships and support networks. Men on this sub say a lot about dead bedrooms being a reason to leave, but women shouldn't leave unless there's abuse and some times they will add cheating. That comes across…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 07:03 PM
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Tell the other person when you appreciate things they’ve done. Even if it’s something mundane and you think they surely know sometimes they don’t if you don’t express it This is so important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:53 PM
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The OP said safety and security is a reason for men to want to be intimate. It's clearly not the reason if you don't want to have sex with men that make you feel that way. Why would women be expected to feel that way based on that alone? You need a lot more than those feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 04:51 PM
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You mean that you require more than safety and security? You require sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:44 PM
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Do you want to have sex with men in those same situations?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:21 PM
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Does a claim make it true? No. I wouldn't date someone that watches porn. Porn disgusts me. I don't hate them or think that they hate women. I don't date men that aren't virgins either. I feel a visceral disgust when men approach me for sex. I still don't hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:18 PM
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Accept that you can't change people and that you won't be compatible with most of them. Stop worrying and complaining about the people you don't want and spend your time actively seeking the people that do fit your desires and standards. People are not obligated or willing to change so that you're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:10 PM
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Do men that only want low n count/virgins hate women? Guess so. That's nice logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:05 PM
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That has nothing to do with hate. Do guys that want thin women hate fat women if they're grossed out if they approach them? No. Do straight men hate gay men if they feel disgusted by being asked out? No. Do they hate being asked out by them? Yes, but that doesn't mean they hate the people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 03:04 PM
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Repulsed or insulted still isn't hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:17 PM
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some men are unlovable and will never overcome their Autism and Asperger, and women clearly hate those men (less than 5% of autist men get married), so I'm glad they have that. Not having sex or a relationship with them is not equivalent to hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:53 PM
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Honesty is appreciated, but I wouldn't date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 07:04 PM
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Is your partner calling them their work spouse or are you defining a close work friendship as that and asking if people would be okay with that friendship? Those are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 11:35 AM
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Religious values. I want a practicing Christian that actually follows their faith and isn't a hateful bigot that uses religion to cover shitty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:06 PM
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I don't date guys that aren't virgins and they have to be intentionally waiting for marriage, no incels. The never had a relationship is going to depend on a lot of things. University aged? That's still quite normal. Never had a relationship at 30+? That's going to raise some warning flags. Why hasn't he had one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:04 PM
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What kind of inexperience are we talking about? A virgin? Never had a serious relationship? Never been on a date? Never spoke to a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 06:01 PM
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The flu vaccine is awful. It made me sick too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 05:44 PM
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321 matches for his Tinder data in less than 2 years and 167 conversations from it. I wouldn't call that no attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:13 PM
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That doesn't happen when men like this think they're average and most men must feel this way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:04 PM
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That's why the women in this thread are going off on him. He's sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 04:02 PM
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At what age do you think the harassment stops for most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:59 PM
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Be glad you missed the part about having the threat of your bodily autonomy being taken away is worth it to feel desired and attracted. Apprarently assault victims should feel desired and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:52 PM
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Here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:47 PM
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He said about women being "felt up" by random men and that would be positive. No, that's sexual assault and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/22 03:43 PM

Religion doesn't place emphasis on one gender. It's all sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 07:32 PM
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Then we need more context about this conversation happening at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:11 PM
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it makes me think is that he's planning to move her away from her friends and family and then abuse and extort her youth and fertility Or they could mean less going out and partying? Less time spent trying to find someone? Maybe they want to chill at home with their partner and have a literal quieter life?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:06 PM
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If you're that age and chronically single you either have commitment issues, outrageous standards, or you weren't worth keeping. None of those are appealing to young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 01:24 PM
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It's not their business if you're just dating, not exclusive, and not sexual. That isn't what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:16 PM
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So to clarify, if you are dating a person it’s matters to know right? You can ask how someone values you or if they engage in casual sex. Are they looking for something committed and serious or are they looking to date around and see where it takes them. That's completely different than you should be obligated to bring me tax forms because we met a few times and finances matter in long term relationships. That's not appropriate for the relationship you have currently by dating. You date to estab…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 07:09 PM
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You can always find a transactional relationship, but most men on this sub are very against it. I am happy to see someone admit that it's usually transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:39 PM
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"It's information needed to know if they want to pursue that person." That's before sex, before any relationship, and could be deemed before even a first date. That's weird. It should not come up before you're either physical, exclusive,,or there is at least some interest in pursuing more. He also said not just sex, but dating other people. Imagine asking someone for coffee and they then ask if you're having coffee with other girls. You would look crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:38 PM
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I know several girls at uni that date older men for money. They are more than happy to buy bags, pay car payments, and finance a girls trips. They don't get laid either, but they are willing to pay for the chance at it. It's sad, but there aren't being forced to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:28 PM
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This guy is talking about before even getting to have sex or an exclusive relationship. He said it should be discussed so they can decide if they want to date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 06:17 PM
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It's about whether you have a relationship with the person that warrants it. You could open your online dating with hi, are you sexually active with any person even though we may never get to that point? Are you going to discuss sex before having sex, at an appropriate time? Yes. Are you expected to before then? No, because you have no relationship with them. Read your OP. It should be discussed in any relationship. Dating is not any kind of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 04:50 PM
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If me not having a relationship with the other person is the justification used then I don’t have to disclose anything right? Like whether I have a drug addiction, std or if I’m already married with kids. I mean we aren’t in a relationship so why do you need to know You actually don't have to disclose any of those things and people don't unless asked. No one said you can't ask. Can you send me your taxes before coffee so I can make sure you're the type of man financially I want to date? I mean y…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:56 PM
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When you have a relationship or sex you can discuss sex. No, you are not entitled to sexual information because someone agreed to coffee or dinner. That is not a relationship of any kind. You're free to ask whatever you want, but no one needs to tell you that they are having coffee with other people of having sex. You have no relationship with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:44 PM
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You don't have to care about any opinion except of the type of partner that you want. Do you and live freely. Do everybody is that's your prerogative. Stay a virgin until marriage if that's your desire. The rest of the people will never matter because you don't want them or they don't want you. Some people can't accept that others don't need to live the way that want in order to be available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:37 PM
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If you have a sexual relationship with that person then yes, their sex life becomes your business and you walk away if they choose not to share that info. If you're not in an established relationship and not having sex then it's not your business.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 01:32 PM
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Every cheater started as virgin. Plenty of people that married as virgins cheat too. Many virgins cheat on their partner to lose it to someone else. Virginity doesn't mean anything except that they didn't have sex before you. You can lose your virginity and cheat the next day. No, the child is not guaranteed to be yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:50 AM
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Reality: People that had options will always have age appropriate options as long as they take care of themselves. People that never had options while young may have the opportunity to get with someone that still considers them undesirable by comparison for a transactional relationship. It's not going to change if you have not become desirable as a person without the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:35 PM
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I was raised that there's nothing above marriage and family. I go to church every week, live by my religion. I don't have sex. I would divorce in a heartbeat if I wasn't happy and hated my husband. The woman still has to want the husband for that to work, not any random man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 03:25 PM
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My parents gave me the same advice. Sex can't and won't make anyone love, like, or respect you. You need to love, like, and respect yourself. You can have sex on a first date if you want to have sex and expect nothing else. Don't use sex as a tool to try to lock down a man. Don't take his sexual interest as anything more than being horny. Sex is only sex and it's okay to do what is right for you. Stick to your own beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 12:06 PM
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It's absolutely 100% okay. Mark can leave and find what he wants from someone else if that's not it. He's not being forced to date or marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 10:21 AM
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You're saying that men are indeed chasing women that aren't really showing interest and then blaming those specific women for being how they were when you asked them out? Yes, that is how it tends to work out. Plenty of women have no issue showing genuine interest when they are actually interested in the man, but many will date for dinner, just as men will date for for sex and neither actually wants to be in a relationship with that person. Dating shouldn't be work for either one. It's natural i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:58 PM
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The spark is not charisma. The spark is personal chemistry between you. You can really like someone and not feel any sexual chemistry or desire. Charisma is nothing more than people being drawn to you and feeling comfortable. It's not sexual or romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 08:11 PM
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There should be equal engagement on both sides. It sounds like there was no chemistry or a lack of real interest for some of these dates. That's not something that you can really create by action. If you're not getting that the answer isn't to try harder. The answer is to keep dating people until you find it and it doesn't feel like there's a weight involved because you genuinely want to learn these things and they feel the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:37 PM
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Absolutely. You are judged by your personal life. Do you not think you would judged if you were dating a drunk, a druggie, a cheater, chronically single, gay, or anything else? Those judgements can hurt your social standing and your career. You can't expect people to ignore it. They're not going to come out and say it, but they will find other reasons to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:08 PM
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Did Usain Bolt ask for those genetics? No. There's nothing unfair about it. Unequal outcome doesn't equal unfair opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:36 PM
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Some of us don't believe in or want casual sex and want a partner that feels the same. That's our choice to make too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:30 PM
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They have the same opportunity to ask and to reject others. That is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:29 PM
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It's not the same, but either is saying men that intentionally lie and omit is the same as being a qualified donor. Those men wouldn't be accepted with proper screening that many banks say they are doing with actual exams and not just forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:48 PM
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So if you told the truth you would be excluded. This isn't about people lying. This is about whether they would qualify as people to donate as is and they wouldn't with autism, not meeting the bank's height requirement, or having a mental illness. The question isn't what can they get away with or is the bank following it's own rules. They should be ruled out. Many sites also list an exam with a professional, not just a screening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:34 PM
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Those are federal requirements are the minimum. It doesn't mean that most does require physical and mental screening and most list it right on their website.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:28 PM
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Do you realize that there is a female equivalent of this behaviour that men claim is unfair and unacceptable? It's making you wait for sex. Men don't have to give women commitment and women don't have to give men sex even if they fucked the last 8 guys within 10 minutes of saying hello. Neither or you are forced to be with that person and that is why it's completely fair on both sides. You can have whatever standards, double standards, bigoted, misandrist/misogynistic views you want and you neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:19 PM
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No. I think it's hypocritical to judge others for behaviour that you're seeking and engaging in, but not unfair. There's no requirement not to judge people or to only judge them by certain metrics. People consent to and seek casual sex constantly. It's also not unfair of someone like me to reject anyone that's not a virgin for the same reasons. You can chase whatever you want. Hypocrisy is a bad look, but it's totally fair in dating. Anyone can have whatever standards they choose and those women…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:56 PM
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Everyone starts off as a virgin and ugly people get relationships too. Unless you're deformed it has to be more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:45 PM
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I really don't have any meaningful advice for anyone in that situation. Your results are not going to magically change if you can't fix the source of your rejection. Do you know why you're being rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:42 PM
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My personal belief is that sex belongs in a marriage. If you're not seeking marriage then do whatever. I don't want a guy that had sex with other women. I don't want someone that chased after it without marriage either. That tells me you don't value your faith, your future, marriage, or sex. There's no reason for me to see any value in you as a life partner. At this point in my life sex is something only to be shared with my future husband and that is an even exchange. Casual sex can make relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:40 PM
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Maybe you should look it up for yourself. They most definitely do and have been doing so for a few years. Allow me to help you out. https://www.sbivf.com/how-to-choose-a-sperm-donor/ https://www.nwcryobank.com/donor-screening/ Would you like more? I can give you thousands more. You are required to be in good medical health and yes, they check. These processes take months now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:59 PM
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Not being attracted isn't a choice either. No, it's not unfair. They have the opportunity to pursue and reject equally. Outcome is not the same as fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:46 PM
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It's not a red flag to be a virgin at any age. It is a red flag to try to get a partner for years and have no success. There's usually a very obvious reason why that's happening. They could be deformed, have a lack of social understanding due to autism, or have a severe mental illness that causes them to isolate themselves. The reason behind there lack of a partner needs to change if results are expected to change. Sex workers exist for those in unchangeable situations, but that is pretty much i…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:41 PM
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Fair is opportunity, not outcome. You are free to reject whoever and everyone else is free to reject you as well. That is perfectly fair. There's nothing unfair about not being able to get a person you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:36 PM
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Isn't that why anyone asks someone else out?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:52 PM
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What is deliberate dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:49 PM
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https://www.northamerican.com/infographics/where-they-grew-up Most don't move away from the area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:00 PM
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There's a difference between never leaving their home area and moving multiple times to different areas where friendships are not geographically possible to maintain in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:58 AM
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Because most people don't continously change areas. They put down roots and build lives. They hold jobs, have relationships, and often live within driving distance of family. Today many people live with their parents. People choose to let go of relationships that are no longer important to them. It's that simple. It's not that deep. They found better fits for their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:48 AM
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That could be true, but it doesn't apply to people around you. It's not normal to not maintain friendships. Most people don't move away after they begin working. Most people stay within the same general area and most people keep up those friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:38 AM
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I have friends in their late 20's with kids that I regularly hang out with and invite them over too. We have shared lives outside of their kids and spouse. That is what defines a friendship. It's not existing in the same space. If people are cutting you off and replacing you with others it's because you and what you offer are now less important than those they keep around them. There's no other way around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 11:19 AM
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It's not the same as regularly hanging out in person, but I still get introduced to people through them quite regularly online through their social media and in person on visits. Some of those people have then come to my place for visits as well to spend time together. That's not as common, but it happens, because people always make an effort for what is valuable to them. That's how all relationships work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:55 AM
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We visit each other in those places. Yes, that is normal to do with close friends, even if it means flying across the country. You still see them, because they are important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:51 AM
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I have that life experience with people that are married and are my friends. People with kids that are my friends. Friends that graduated and moved away. Older friends too. It's my experience and their own, because I have the friendships. Every person I know has these relationships, because it is the norm, and our shared experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:46 AM
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My parents are older than you. The parents of my friends are older than you. Your personal experience as a single person doesn't make it the social norm. You haven't progressed as your peers have done and they moved on to relationships with others that have also progressed. That doesn't mean people don't maintain real connections despite life changes. I have friends that are married and have kids too. They absolutely make the effort to maintain their relationships with the people they want surro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:39 AM
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Even when you're good friends, sometimes people move on with life. You are no longer fitting into their life. They have moved on to friends that mean more at the stage where they are at. That is not the same as fizzled out. It's intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:34 AM
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Your social circle only shrinks if people are intentionally not maintaining relationships with you. People make the effort to keep up with their friends to talk and hang out when possible. Being surrounded by people that mainly only talk to for clubs, work, school, or anywhere is not having friends. Those are acquaintances. Real friendships keep up because both sides want to maintain it and enjoy the company of the other person. That doesn't change because someone moved, got a job, or something …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:29 AM
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Your pool is only as small as your social circle and the people that like you. People like introducing people they think would get on well together for much more than dating. Everyone I know that uses online dating uses it for hook ups to keep it out of social circles and away from their reputation in these groups, both men and women. I know several couples that met online. They met looking for something casual and it turned into something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:14 AM
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You should be able to keep your friendships active. My parents have tons of lifelong friends from school. Their friends are the same. I don't know any people that don't have long lasting friendships. The ones that fizzle out are acquaintances. There's church where l have known 75% several years, actually know them and am involved in their lives outside of church too. Friends, family, and co-workers introducing you to others are doing so based on social proof and reputation too. They're not tryin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 10:05 AM
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It's much easier when you don't date outside of your social circle. You know their views. You know who is desperate. You know who has tried to hook up with others. People talk about that in private discussion. You know which women are crying because they tried to use sex to get commitment. We all know which guys are trying to get with any and every girl. What you don't know is who is willing to lie to get what they want. A man can sleep with 100 prostitutes and lie about it. A girl can sleep wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:32 AM
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Every emotionally stable person likes a partner that wants them, but doesn't need to be with them. No one likes desperation, except desperate people. Sexual restraint is also seen as a positive characteristic in both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:56 PM
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Desperation is never attractive either. You look like those women that throw sex at guys trying to get more from them. It's equally unattractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:47 PM
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We can only hope that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 06:16 PM
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A man that is willing to put his dick in anything to say that he had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 04:40 PM
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It's not the height that's the deal breaker. He's fat, has bad eyesight, and poor interpersonal skills if he has never managed to have a relationship. It's most likely autism if everyone says he is respectful and nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:39 PM
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But no woman would ever have to choose between 2 undesirable options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:28 PM
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Sperm banks are very selective. https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/9-reasons-your-sperm-isnt-good-enough-to-donate-w209421/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:26 PM
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He wouldn't pass their physical requirements alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 02:13 PM
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Neither of those options would ever be accepted as a donor. There's physical and psychological screening. I wouldn't have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 01:38 PM
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I am turned off by overly muscular men like body builders. I am attracted to fit men with definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 10:11 AM
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I date men of the same character and he always approves if them. I had an excellent role model of what a man should be as a person, partner, and father. He lives up to his morals and he doesn't make excuses or slack.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 08:38 PM
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Call high n women disgusting and proceed to have sex with them. Say women only care about looks, bitch about attractive women not wanting them. Talk about abused women not caring about character like men and then chase crazy women. Cry about divorce rape and marry women without educations and jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 07:25 PM
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Do you care to tell me how he also has no friends due to women and their list of requirements? The entire world isn't the problem when you're trying and failing. Choosing to not date is completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:47 PM
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You put a personal conversation out there and are pissed at the results. You called me a racist when my dating preference has nothing to do with a race of people. You then said you really thought I was a nice person and I used your own words to show that wasn't true. That was 100% your choice. You brought up the private chat. You brought up your family in this sub. You brought up the nail polish in this sub. You brought up me calling her a liar. YOU did all of that and now what to be mad that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:25 PM
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Now excuse me while I go find your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:18 PM
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I never once said I wouldn't date someone of that race, which would be racism. I said I won't date anyone from that place because of the society, which is not racism. I date men of that race raised in other societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:17 PM
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Not if you're not discussing race. Race is a thing like black, white, asian, hispanic, or middle eastern. If I say I won't date an American because they are crazy about guns and politics who am I being racist against? A country is not a race.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:13 PM
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You brought it up, again. You also said that on the board multiple times. You can't bring up something and then get mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:11 PM
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Not dating people from a specific place and not excluding a race is not racist or the same thing. It would be racist if I said I won't date someone of that race and don't find them attractive. Not liking a specific mindset is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:10 PM
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Conservative girls that think sex is for marriage and think wearing red nail polish is the mark of a whore are not talking about masturbating daily and how they want to fuck you. Sorry, it's not happening. Talking about that shit is also a sign of a "whore".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:08 PM
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The truth about what I said. You opened that door when you lied about be being a racist saying I won't date a race of people. No, that's not true. I won't date anyone of any race from that particular country. It has nothing to do with race at all. If you want to make up shit and bring up a private conversation to get at people then expect it to be done to you. Don't swing if you can't take a hit. You brought up "racism" for no reason, from a private conversation, to attack me. You brought it on …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:04 PM
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Oh yeah, sure. You thought I was a nice person when you said you never liked me and talked to me because you were bored. Yeah, definitely. I didn't post anything said in confidence until you did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:01 PM
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What i said about your jealousy, ick, and insecurity is all shit that you have repeatedly posted on this sub and even in the last 24 hours. No, I did not say a word from private chat until you opened that door. Don't attack people, make up shit, and then cry it's mean for someone to state the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:00 PM
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I am a virgin waiting for marriage. If I changed my mind and didn't want marriage I would have no issue with casual sex, but it's what I want. Most people are sexually active.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:58 PM
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I never said that once. I think anyone having sex is potentially screwing up their lives, but that's their choice. You're arguing claims I never made.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:48 PM
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It's funny you are trying to claim I'm personally attacking you because you tried to make this conversation about my preferences and about how I'm a hypocrite. So that's not a personal attack? You made up some shit and called me a racist. I pointed out that your behaviour is hypocritical. One is a personal attack and one is not. Say what you want. I don't care. You don't know shit about my life, things are patched up with my sister, she came over, we watched movies together. We're on great terms…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:47 PM
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That goes in reverse too. If men didn't have sex or date promiscuous women they wouldn't exist, but apparently it's not a problem for most people. It's not up to anyone to be what the collective wants. It is up to you to be the person that the type of partner you're seeking wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:37 PM
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You have extremely hypocritical and racist reasons for rejecting people and you know what they are, but I don't want to make things personal so I won't go there. It's not racist to date men of my race and not date those men from a specific country because of the culture they were raised within. You are still dating the race of people. You don't know what racism means. I would highly suggest you not make up shit again to attempt to personally attack me, because I am more than willing to put out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:33 PM
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You need to accept that if it's okay for you then it's okay for others too, which most do. It's the people that think they can do one and get the other that are going to have a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:27 PM
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You don't get to call something feminism because people have different opinions or because words have definitions. You can't have a conversation without devolving into this shit and it's really sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:23 PM
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Except for men like OP. He's had casual sex with multiple women and things he can only demand a virgin without being judged. He says things like I would date and fuck her, but not marry her. I get to be picky in who I marry. Yeah, so does everyone else. Stop whining about being judged when your hypocritical self is doing the same thing. It's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:21 PM
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I'm saying, women who criticise men for caring about sexual history, but then they themselves care about sexual history, are hypocrites. Yes, and you do the same when you judge women for having those preferences and say they shouldn't do it. That makes you the same. It is not hypocritical to want something that you do not have yourself. Do you agree with that or not? It most certainly can be hypocritical. The hypocrisy comes from the judgment of thinking they are bad, sluts, less than, not this …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:17 PM
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Yeah sure, if you don't want that person because you believe that they view sex differently or because you don't think that they can connect with others. That's different than calling people a whore or judging the sex itself. It's normal to want someone with similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:05 PM
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Not wanting to date a man that has no relationship experience isn't shaming him. Do you understand that it's not chastising him in any way? It's only shaming or chastising him if you're calling him or men like him names, telling him that he's a loser, and making judgments about him based on it. It's not shaming or chastising women to want a virgin partner either, but it is chastising and shaming women when you say things about them or to them about how having sex made them this, or that, or unwo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 01:03 PM
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This whole post is you bitching about their preferences and now you're back to claiming it's not hypocrisy when you act the exact same way. Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:52 PM
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If they are the same women then yes, like yourself, wanting a virgin while you have had casual sex with multiple women. You are the same exact person and you're also the same one yelling it's not hypocrisy. Most people aren't out there doing that, but those that do are hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:48 PM
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They are both free to make those assumptions. It's not wrong or right for either one. It's their opinion. No one has to agree and no one has to date any type of person that they don't want, but not dating someone that has no relationship experience isn't the same as not dating someone for being a virgin. The only thing that girl said is to avoid men that care about it. Okay and?? It's only hypocrisy is those particular women judge men by their sexual experience, not the hypocrisy of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:44 PM
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That it's hypocritical for a woman to care about sexual history if she doesn't want a man to care. That's completely different than not wanting to date someone that has never had a gf and lacks those things. Women don't in general care about sexual history unless they are virgins too or are looking for a higher chance of decent casual sex. Intentionally celibate men aren't being rejected for being virgins unless the woman wants sex in their relationship before marriage. There is no hypocrisy in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:31 PM
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I read it and pointed out that most women don't care about sexual history. They care that you can't get anyone due to personal issues. Now tell me who is saying that any man has to date a high n woman or anyone that they don't want to be with? Not a single person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:06 PM
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Who said you can't reject them? No one. You don't have to date anyone. You can have your opinions and they can have theirs, but it's stupid as hell when you argue that you can have an opinion and they shouldn't. You're doing the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 12:01 PM
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A person that has never been able to have a relationship at 30 most likely has serious social issues due to autism or a serious mental illness. They probably don't have friends either. Not wanting to be with someone that lacks interpersonal skills is not hypocrisy. That person, man or woman, hasn't figured out what nearly everyone else on the planet has manages to do. Most guys admit that they wouldn't date a woman in that position for the same reasons. It's not hypocrisy. Most women have no iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 11:57 AM
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Yes, watch what they do. They aren't making posts on ppd talking about it's not hypocrisy to want behaviours that you don't offer as if they're trying to convince someone to agree with them. They would be out there with that girl. Thank you for pointing that out, because these men aren't out there with those girls. I guess they weren't lying when they said they didn't want it after all. Exceptions make the rule. Religious women are not in general dating men that don't follow the rules or these g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 10:18 PM
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Couldn't be me and I know that none of my friends would accept that either. We want the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:46 PM
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It's a lack of religious values. Why date a guy from church if he doesn't actually follow the religion? That's not what we want. You can believe what you want, but people following their faith that want a religious partnership aren't settling for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:37 PM
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Most of my friends are also virgins waiting for marriage and a man having had sex, or trying to have had sex, is an instant deal breaker. There's a difference between chaste and still a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 09:25 PM
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They want traditional men. Traditional is a lot more than a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:14 PM
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Which he agreed to pay her for when she quit working and you can't fire someone for not wanting to be with you. That's why. Your parenting arrangement for your children is separate from the marriage. You chose for her to stay home in the best interest of your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:45 PM
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She is the time that she has them and the judge sees that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:20 PM
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You are continuing to pay her as she works by taking care of the children, that's it, because you agreed that is her job and you can't fire someone for choosing to not be with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:13 PM
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"Your honour l see my wife as a prostitute that brought nothing to the marriage." She was half of the marriage and entitled to half of the marital assets. You agree to that when you stay married to someone not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:45 PM
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Most women are excluded from what men consider high value because they are fat, have slept around, and many other things. Men settling is different than those women being desired. Those women don't become higher value because some guy in the same position accepted them. Most people are not high value by default, because it's above average. Average is average and doesn't come with additional value by default because it's the easiest to find. Being below average by those metrics that people want m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:01 PM
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What pay?? The shit that you also claim that she shouldn't get half of because she didn't work for it and should have had a job if she wanted half of the marital assets? Do you think the court will be satisfied with room and board during the marriage as payment for raising the kids, giving up her savings potential, and taking care of the house and doing all of the chores? That's what you call divorce rape. That a woman gets half of the marital assets that she contributed to in the marriage. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:57 PM
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Child support is to pay for their needs when for the time that they are not in your care. Spousal support is to pay for the time they worked for you at home until they find a new job.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:49 PM
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Show me the stats saying that quoted info is wrong. I showed you the info. You don't get to choose what you want to believe based on assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:48 PM
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They didn't quit raising your kids and that is the job of a sahp. That's what you have been supporting them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:46 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/advisor/legal/divorce/how-does-alimony-work/ Alimony is typically ordered to last no longer than one 1/3 of the length of the marriage. The typical marriage last 8 years. You do the math.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:45 PM
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You can't fire someone for breaking up with you or not fucking you. You have made that her job and agreed to compensate her for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:36 PM
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Alimony is almost always temporary for a few months to a year or 2 to allow the lower income party to get on their feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:35 PM
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It is when the judge says it's his problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:32 PM
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She isn't screwing him over if he hired her to be a stay at home mother and raise the kids. He has made that her job and he will be legally forced to pay her until the court decides that she can find work to support herself by other means.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:31 PM
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Responsibilities to each other END when you get married. What is this supposed to mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:27 PM
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People being willing to fuck you or settle for you doesn't make you desirable as a partner. No one is out there calling prostitutes, single moms, or obese ugly women high value women because someone accepted them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:20 PM
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Are they women that wouldn't be what people really want in a relationship? Absolutely. They are as many women as there are men in the that situation. I don't think they are less than as people, but they aren't desirable as a partner for many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:00 PM
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That's a conversation you can have before dating to weed out people that are looking to have someone buy them a free dinner or those with in compatible relationship expectations. I feel the only caveat to wanting someone to pay half is for them to have a say in where you're going and the expected budget, because it's their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 11:53 AM
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Maybe they did, but that doesn't have to involve a legal commitment to make that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:25 PM
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I don't think you should get married because you had sex and a pregnancy happened. That kid isn't going to keep you married or make things work. The irresponsibility and having those sexual views would be the red flag for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:47 PM
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Her consent matters and if she doesn't want to have sex with you then it's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:13 PM
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I will add must be a virgin intentionally abstaining until marriage. Must be kind and charitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:11 PM
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Do you believe that we don't care about attraction? Younger girls are not marrying you unless they have free access the the lifestyle the money can provide. Not money in a bank. It's most definitely transactional and many older guys give money to younger girls without the commitment and kids for that same status. What money isn't getting you is genuinely attraction or feelings. Unless you're talking extreme money you won't be punching farther out of your league than your someone your level at th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:08 PM
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Yes, it's rape. That is what men mean by being sexually aggressive. They don't consider that rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 07:50 PM
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Is this rape? It's a dm conversation. https://ibb.co/1mXVzSk https://ibb.co/ydn2Jhf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 02:24 PM
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It's from a guy on this sub I spoke to privately.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:59 PM
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He is the one that claimed there is no implicit threat if it's not stated or he's not being physically violent. "Physically aggressive in a sexy way, like pinning her up against a wall." "How hard did she push me away when I kissed her?" "Men need to lead and keep trying." He's talking about physically escalating after being told no, "to close the deal". There's no situation besides where a couple is laughing and openly joking where that is not seen as threatening behaviour. He thinks that's acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:37 PM
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Thank you for inadvertently admitting it. You can't be forceful and not be seen as a threat. If someone is threatened and has sex because of it then it's rape. If you don't take no for an answer it's rape. If she repeatedly says no and you do not respect it you are now a threat. I am happy that we got here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:29 PM
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I didn't say anything like that. I said people are not objects, they aren't owned, and that's why you can't treat them like that. Your wallet can't do anything about it, because it's not a person. If I find a lost wallet on the street it's not a crime to keep it. It's not stolen property. I didn't take it from you. I have the option to return it. If I steal your wallet from your pocket or property then it's theft and a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 01:27 PM
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You can spend your own money and wear flashy things in public. Why is it a problem if I start spending your money too? You didn't have a problem when you gave your friend money, but now I am that bad guy?? That's why. Why do men treat themselves like wallets and objectify themselves if they don't want me spend their money??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:37 PM
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Objects don't get to consent to who owns them or how they are treated. A wallet is a wallet to everyone. Who owns the wallet is a separate issue entirely to the purpose of a wallet. You don't own other people. They have to consent to their actions and communications with you. That's why you can't treat people like objects. Which I'm sure most guys are already doing anyways so what was your point again They are consenting to that. They aren't consenting to identity theft and can leave the situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:32 PM
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"A little bit of force" already has nuance and it was in the quote. No amount of force in sexual consent is considered okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 12:13 PM
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That's the point, but apparently only intent matters. No longer saying no now means yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:46 AM
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Please directly answer this question for people. Is it rape when they have stated that they do not want to have sex with you and you have to use any kind of force to get it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:33 AM
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You're not giving money to them. They are taking it from you, because you are a wallet. That is your sole purpose as an object. You get no say or consent as a wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:32 AM
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It's not nuanced when someone is telling you no and pushing you away. This isn't some teehee, stop being bad thing. She meant it. He asked how hard did she push him. He has her pinned against the wall. "A pushy salesman pisses off customers, but a salesnan that doesn't push doesn't make sales. That's different then a sale at gunpoint." If your partner is pissed off that is rape, not consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:25 AM
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He even asked how forcefully is she trying to push him away while saying no. I don't mean some cute playful teehee you're so bad shit. I mean she said no and pushed you away. He said men need to keep pushing. Does she need to scream and fight you for it to not be rape? Is that rape or not if she feels that you won't take her no for an answer is afraid of what will happen even if you have not expressed what you consider to be a threat and feel that you are being "sexy" and using the "predator/pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:19 AM
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It's consent and invalidation of their humanity to only see them as a hole for sex that can be possessed. You understand that finances are important for a relationship too, but being seen as a wallet without feelings or needs or your own is dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:10 AM
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I didn't say that. I asked why men don't want to be treated like a wallet. That has nothing to do with sex. Give her your money. Being treated like a wallet doesn't get you a woman. Why don't men want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 11:03 AM
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It's physical force, "but in sexy way, not rapey, like him pinning you against a wall."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:38 AM
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I knew that you were being sarcastic, but wants an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:33 AM
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Of course. You can't violate an object's consent. It's their purpose. Wallets hold money for your use. They don't have a say in being used. You have a say in whether or not I use your wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:28 AM
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He compared it to being a pushy salesman. "Pushy salesmen make their customers pissed off. A salesman that isn't pushy doesn't make sales." He doesn't get that pushing past no is rape even if she doesn't fight you off. "Women are often passive during sex. Men need to lead." Can you explain to him when that moment becomes rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:19 AM
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Imagine the horror of people having feelings, or even worse, rights to say yes or no!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:16 AM
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Why do men have a problem being treated like a wallet?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:10 AM
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The context is pushing past a date that has said no. "In situations in which there is no implicit threat of violence or really any sort of threat, then being a little forceful or pushy is at worst just annoying, and I don't think just being annoying is enough to qualify as rape." Q4A: Is being forceful ever not rape if it's being used because someone does not want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/22 10:04 AM
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It was she or he.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 07:17 PM
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You would be okay marrying a woman that you know doesn't love you before marriage and that it would be fake? She doesn't change until after marriage. You marry her and she becomes a slave of some sort, but she still doesn't love you and you knew that from the beginning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:20 PM
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But it's totally different than someone trying to be a good spouse. That is a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 03:16 PM
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I wouldn't marry either of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:43 PM
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Yes, she's not allowed to divorce and she will always pretend to be completely in love no matter how you treat her. But guys were saying that was perfect and real love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:37 PM
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They couldn't complain and couldn't ever act like you're less than perfect even if you cheat or abuse them. They also can't leave in those conditions. That goes well beyond the duties of a spouse to be their best.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 02:36 PM
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She might be irrational and insecure. You can say that. She can even admit it. That's not someone or anyone telling her that she can't still only want that. You can have any preference you want, but when you give your opinion others are also going to state theirs too. They're not the same thing. No one has to justify their preferences or date anyone that they don't like for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/22 10:40 AM
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You strongly disagree with a point l never made. You need to be attractive to them, regardless of their standards. Most people end up within their own range.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:18 PM
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There are some women like that, but not all, and there are also a lot of men like that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 11:05 PM
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You don't think the average woman can take the full size of an average male penis? That's over 5 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:58 PM
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https://m.newhealthadvisor.org/How-Deep-Is-the-Average-Vagina.html It can be 7inches too. Vaginas are like a penis, all different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:56 PM
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That is a woman that's not aroused, they lengthen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:51 PM
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If men are always hunting women then she's bombarded with options. She doesn't need a bar for it. Her requirements are probably not a 10/10 too as supermodel level looking people are quite rare. Women also go after men they find attractive as your example shows. He also doesn't need a bar and has no need to be thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:44 PM
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Men are the same. Being willing to have sex with or date down doesn't mean that men actually find them attractive. That's a choice people make for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:42 PM
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She shows her knees?? 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:34 PM
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I like both options. It depends on the the person and if it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:31 PM
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No one wants to date someone they don't find attractive. A man a woman genuinely finds attractive is Chad to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:24 PM
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Why would a 10/10 woman be thirsty if 10/10 men are out there taking what they can get? She doesn't have to do that because the type of man she wants is always available to her for sex. This is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:21 PM
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He's obsessed with his own looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:18 PM
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I've seen 2 versions. 20% of men are getting 80% of the sex and women are only interested in 20% of men while men are interested in 80% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:09 PM
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Some women don't mind and do not want a man involved in at all. They usually adopt, use a sperm bank, or get pregnant intentionally from a hook up and never inform the dad. That's not the case for most single mothers. Most were in relationships at the time she got pregnant and some times for years after that before the break up/divorce. Single mothers usually have the fathers in their lives too, just not living together. Some even have 50/50 custody, but studies show that most men never file for…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 10:02 PM
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How hot is this guy walking into the bar if he's getting a 10/10's number and your post is about women are picky and not horny? That doesn't add up to getting all 4 women to say yes unless he's extremely good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 09:51 PM
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Race, trying to get laid, being used in a different way, or basically anything that says I don't like you as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 08:10 PM
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Only if they're extremely insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 06:57 PM
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The spelling is orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/22 05:45 PM
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The safety argument actually says that women wouldn't have relationships and keep it casual. Women are being assaulted by romantic partners in higher numbers, not sexual ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 08:01 PM
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Speaking behaviourally what about women who want men making more than them? That's entirely under their control. That hypocritical? I already said that's hypocrisy. What about women who are indecisive and like men to make decisions and lead? Hypocrites? It certainly could be if they are only open to that type of relationship despite not being that. On the other hand they're providing the missing half to a partner that wants someone to be submissive. They in general go together vs any other situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 06:07 PM
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Oh please, women that sleep with 500 guys still have morals and I never implied otherwise. They do have different morals than my own and actually align with those promiscuous men. It doesn't make sense for a man that values random sex that strongly to want a woman that's more sexually reserved than others and it doesn't make sense for a virgin to commit to man that has sex like it's a sport. Also women don’t have lower libidos you’re right but they do have different libidos and are turned off wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:56 PM
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Let's take your take at face value. Why would any man want any woman that clearly has a lower libido and doesn't have sex when higher libido women are there, having sex with them, and yet they refuse to date them? Women don't have severely lower libido. What i have is morals that I expect someone else to live up to as well. I have restraint and expect it from a partner too. I am not saving myself to have sex with some dude that thinks it's going to lower my value as a person. You can't make this…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:42 PM
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Those women are hypocrites too if they want something that is behavioural that they themselves can't offer. You can control your actions. You didn't get an education? Don't expect a partner that worked hard for years at uni to look at you. You're insecure and can't speak to men? Don't expect them to tolerate your insecurity because you didn't get therapy to fix yourself. On the other hand men are taller than average by default so that's not really a hypocrisy. Very tall men liking short women or…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 05:36 PM
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It is hypocritical when they're still sleeping with them. They don't want her because she's too disgusting for dating or "the ick", but then want women like us to be okay with a guy that has sex with what they consider disgusting to see them as a husband. Who in the hell wants that for a husband?? You tell them that and they say, but "it's different". No, it's not different to any virgin that is intentionally waiting for the right one. You have almost guaranteed nexted yourself if that's importa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:22 PM
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I think it's more so that they're angry that they see women that had sex as gross, unworthy, and don't want them, but they still expect those women to have sex with them. That's a little strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:01 PM
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I don't get angry about it, but I would never date a man like that. We don't have the same morals or views on sex. Those same men say that it shouldn't matter if you like them. That's what upsets me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:58 PM
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33539803/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:31 PM
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No, the baby would die and many aggressive cancers kill in weeks and require immediate chemo. She's probably going to die in that case and a dying fetus in her body is not going to help her physically or mentally. That's why they do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:29 PM
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It can happen at 20 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:28 PM
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The treatment when medicine doesn't work is to deliver her of the baby via birth or abortion. Babies don't survive at 20 weeks and will most likely have severe disabilities. Many people see it better to abort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:16 PM
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They do the abortion first. It doesn't die from the drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 03:14 PM
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Like with aggressive cancers that need immediate treatment. Those usually result in a therapeutic abortion because the mother can not survive without treatment and the baby cannot survive treatment. Yes, they absolutely happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:57 PM
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You've clearly never heard of preeclampsia. The mother can die if her condition cannot be controlled with medication. The only solution is to deliver the baby, alive or dead. The mother is always chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:56 PM
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Oh right, the law exists for no reason. Yes, those abortions happen, because of blood pressure, because of serious illness, because of many reasons, including mental health. You can't get an elective abortion at 39 weeks, but one can and will be performed to save the mother at any stage of pregnancy. The law is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:41 PM
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In Victoria, a landmark Supreme Court ruling in 1969 ('the Menhennitt ruling') established that an abortion will be lawful if the accused held an honest belief on reasonable grounds that the abortion was both 'necessary' and 'proportionate.' 'Necessity' in this context means that the abortion was necessary to preserve the pregnant woman from a serious danger to her life or to her physical or mental health, beyond the normal dangers of pregnancy and childbirth, that would result if the pregnancy …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:32 PM
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It is legal in the cases where there's a threat to her life or there's serious abnormalities. I am fine with that. That's the law and the Bible doesn't speak against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:23 PM
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The Bible also says to live under the laws of the ruling authority. If abortion is legal then it's legal. If the Bible doesn't speak against it then it's not my place either. What I do know is that the Bible speaks very clearly for judging them and so I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:18 PM
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There is absolutely no reference to when the soul enters the body in that quote or that a fetus has one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:15 PM
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Are you a person in Heaven? No, you're a soul. Are you a person as an egg and sperm? No. Are you a person at fertilization before pregnancy occurs? No. You become a person when you have the breathe of life. You're a body before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:13 PM
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If He knows your soul before He formed you then it's not the definition of being alive as a person. Maybe you need to read it again. He knew you before He formed your body in the womb. Thus says the Lord God to these bones: “Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live. I will put sinews on you and bring flesh upon you, cover you with skin and put breath in you; and you shall live. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.” God said that you are alive after being formed and hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:10 PM
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You have to see a fetus as a fully equal human life, which the Bible does not. You can make all of the arguments that you want, but it's a problem that you can't show me a single verse where the definition of life has changed to God. It's on you if you want to say that God made a mistake to not change that. My morality is based on my faith, not your beliefs. That's between myself and God.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 02:04 PM
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Thus says the Lord God to these bones: “Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live. I will put sinews on you and bring flesh upon you, cover you with skin and put breath in you; and you shall live. Then you shall know that I am the Lord.” You live when breath enters you. That is as clear as can be, because the soul and the body are not the same. The Bible does not see it as murder and you can't show any verse that says it sees it as murder. It doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:53 PM
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That's in the old testament too where abortion is fine. God knowing your soul doesn't mean he views the unborn as people. God knew you before he formed you. God also has all the days of man numbered and knows how it ends before they begin. He doesn't stop them from being aborted or miscarried. He knows and still, nothing was spoken against it. Your soul and body are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:38 PM
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Did you forget that Jesus was a Jew, aware of the laws and practices, and spoke out against those he thought were immoral? Not a word on abortion. There's no religious condemnation on it except from men, not God, Jesus, or any prophets.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:29 PM
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In the old testament priests were doing them as a test to see if a woman cheated. If she lost the baby from the aborticants she cheated. There is nothing even in the new testament that says abortion is wrong of that the unborn are the same as children born alive. There was plenty of time to state that and it wasn't, meanwhile abortion existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:23 PM
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I am going off of the Bible, not morality. The Bible does not see a fetus as an equal person and says it's better to die from an untimely birth in the womb than to live a miserable unholy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:18 PM
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Read the Bible passage I quoted. Priests gave miscarriages to women that "cheated". The fact that it worked was seen as a sign of her guilt. The church took no issue with killing a fetus if it belonged to another man. My faith says nothing against abortion and I don't see it as murder when life equals breathe. The Bible also supports the death penalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 01:12 PM
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It's not my choice what someone else does with their life. That's their choice and body that has to endure pregnancy and the risks associated with it. If I were having sex and got pregnant I would have to have one because of my medical treatment. It's not a cut and dry issue. If it's a sin then it's theirs and between them and God, like everything else. There's only one sin that isn't forgivable and it's not abortion or even murder. It's not my place to judge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:49 PM
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Yes, because aborticants also caused physical damage to the woman leaving her infertile. They were given poisonous plants and God would supposedly spare the innocent. That's the bitter water. Abortion has been around since the beginning of civilizations and there was never a problem with it until more recently. It's strange that you don't see the abortion being done by the church as a stance on it. The church doesn't think aborting "bastard" children is a wrong doing. It blames the mother for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 12:39 PM
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