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I'm boring, mean, and rude - why won't anyone talk to me?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/11/20 06:30 PM
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No I would not: And it's 100% the woman in the relationship who is pushing for all of this to happen at each and every turn. Not a moment goes by where she isn't perfectly crafting this image for herself and her life. And the guy serves no other purpose than literally being her life sized Ken doll. Your post claims that the man is in some sense a rube (a rube with no other purpose than a prop in her life, even), which I disagree with in my case. I steer our relationship; we operate in my frame. …
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 01:54 PM
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Haha, okay, I'll be devil's advocate on this one. You forgot the caveat: unless you are NEET Chad. I am a happily married MGTOW sympathizer (in that I think it is probably the best option for most men in most circumstances). My wife and I do couples Halloween costumes, and have been known to dress in the same palette of colors when going out. Although no sports teams or perfectly matching stuff or anything... But - I like her, and it is fun. My wife works while I keep house, we have overlapping …
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 08:16 PM
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I love the ad at the bottom for another article: Meanwhile, these shallow men who refuse to date women over size 8 because they see them as ‘lazy’, ‘not good for my image’ and ‘sex hungry’. Hypocrisy, thy name is woman.
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 05:03 PM
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This article is crap. First of all, it doesn't even provide evidence for its claim that intelligent women marry less intelligent men, just a personal anecdote. Second, while he provides a good statistical explanation of why this might happen, it is not an example of regression to the mean. But he keeps calling it that anyway.
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 04:11 PM
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If the first word that occurs to you when trying to describe yourself is "bored," then you must be really fucking boring.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/11/20 03:50 PM
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I wouldn't say that I'm "garden variety," as I am almost certainly smarter than the average Chad, but I sure try not to do much work. I have basically gone from woman to woman my whole life letting them do most of the work while I keep house and fuck them into a stupor. The main thing is to make sure that you are prettier than them and that they don't want babies. And I was doing this before I found the pill. Now I have bigger muscles and better game - so unless something goes terribly wrong I s…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/11/20 12:44 PM
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Guys who have had experience with women are not relationship material for some reason... what could have happened to them? It sounds like she is looking for debt-free virgins without tattoos. One wonders why she doesn't include the 19-22 year olds she supposedly has so much respect for in her Tinder search window.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/10/20 10:15 PM
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My impression when I first arrived was that there were many men here who hated women. As the pill really sinks in though, it is more that you lose the ability to take most of them seriously. They are all posturing and projection, and have behaviors and reactions that are almost scripted once you learn how to draw them out. I still love my wife after the pill, but the dynamic is totally different... more like she is a beloved pet that I am training. Which might sound like "hate" if you haven't ha…
/r/TheRedPill25/09/20 12:59 PM
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It is not that they are lesbians, but women are wired up to find other women sexy. Because of humanity's extreme social interdependence, social savvy is of critical importance to women in their selection of a mate. Women have therefore evolved to test men for this skill, and to hang out and make themselves available to the men who pass the test. Of course, testing men for social fitness yourself takes time and energy, so evolution would favor any reasonably effective shortcuts also. The easiest …
/r/MGTOW09/09/20 08:37 PM
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This is is what I was going to say. Guys, OP's post is good advice for your interactions with ALL women. Being a wuss is never a good look; whether your girl has no patience for it or whether she puts up with it to some degree, it still lowers you in her eyes and is thus never to your benefit. I find it hilarious that someone wants to become a "high quality man" so that he can cry all over his woman. Being a high quality man means not burdening her with that garbage. Why do you want her to liste…
/r/TheRedPill24/08/20 05:11 AM
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I'll chime in as a guy who has basically done this for many years. I am married (before I found the pill), but other than that I am in my late 30s/early 40s and own nothing. I've intentionally kept myself poor and flexible. The big problem with this strategy is that you are always dependent on someone else for something. I mean, it can work, I get away with it because I have a huge amount of social capital and a large network of people I can count on. Also I am sexy enough to get women to work a…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/20 12:38 PM
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She wants to take "back what [she] said" because she hates this and has ruined their dynamic, but she can't because... she "doesn't want to seem like a hypocrite." Her relationship is less important to her than her image, and not worth risking having her feelings hurt. She could fix it in a second simply by taking responsibility for her actions, but women are by and large unable to accept blame for anything.
/r/MGTOW24/06/20 02:47 PM
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Men have evolved to love and protect women, which is hard to motivate yourself to do if you know too much about them. Ergo, men have evolved a tendency to look at women in a positive light and give them the benefit of the doubt by default. On the other hand, women have evolved to be suspicious and exploitative of men, so it is easier for them to believe bad things about men. They are also aware that they have a strong in-group bias amongst themselves, and project this onto men (the "Patriarchy")…
/r/askTRP21/06/20 10:50 AM
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It is not a trade though, because you cannot negotiate genuine attraction. To me, thinking of it as a trade is actually very blue pill... I wish it could be that way, but it just ain't. The more generous you are with your attention and time, the less she wants to fuck you - that is not a trade. I would love being able to pour my heart out and love a woman the way I used to before I went red and be rewarded with tons of nasty sex, but they simply aren't wired up like that. They force us to choose…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/20 01:38 PM
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Sure, social status is always debatable, but it's still something to be married even today. Yes, the import of this cannot be resolved through debate. But I honestly don't think it would matter to any but the most religious whether my wife and I are actually married or just shacking up permanently, based on my previous LTRs. If I/we show up somewhere looking shlubby, no one sees our ring(s) and gives us bonus "having our shit together" points; our families would have our partner's back even befo…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/20 09:30 AM
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Yeah, taking the pill will fuck you up. You are lucky to have found it this young, though. ​ She didn't press for a relationship. I'm the one who got attached shiet. This is your main problem. She knows that she isn't worthy of the treatment you give her, so she thinks you are a sucker bitch for doing it (she's right) and loses attraction. Choke down that pill and you will realize that many many interactions with women are just their subtle (or not so subtle) attempts to take advantage of you or…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/20 05:22 PM
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I feel like Redagogue already addressed this pretty well, but I'll go ahead and give you my perspective too since you took the time to lay out your argument so thoroughly. ​ *social benefits - status as being married. People (and employers) generally see you as more responsible, regardless of whether it is actually true. I don't think that this is a thing, maybe it was in ye olde days. At least I have never noticed this in my life; people usually judge you on how put together you and your life s…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/20 04:57 PM
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Trust me, as far as sexual attraction goes, they care nothing about your intellect beyond whether you are quick-witted enough to give them fun banter. If you aren't pretty and don't have game, she does not care about the results of your IQ test.
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 01:29 PM
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Why not just DINK without getting married? I'm a happily married guy, and I would never do it again or advise anyone to - there is no upside. Just don't do it.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/20 01:14 PM
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I was going to reply until I saw this one; this is the correct response. Wow, she has mastered the art of sitting in a classroom and parroting answers. Wow, she has hobbies. Like, who gives a shit about any of this? Are you looking to hire a well-rounded pharmacist with lots of extracurricular activities? Maybe if OP is super into skiing or horseback riding she would have ticked a box for him, but OP never even says what he is looking for in a woman. And half of the stuff she was saying about he…
/r/TheRedPill28/04/20 01:25 PM
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It can be done. I've been bouncing from chick to chick and letting them do the working for money bit (although I supplement our income sometimes with side hustles), while I fuck them into submission. I am now married, and the wife works while I am a "homemaker", i.e. pretty much do whatever I want all day. But I am an exceptional case, and living this way has definitely required sacrificing my economic independence to a degree.
/r/MGTOW26/04/20 01:27 PM
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Being honest about ETHOTs isn't what makes you unattractive to her, it is caring so much about what someone else does that is the turnoff. Also, I love how she admits she'd be a whore if she could, then immediately follows it up with the boilerplate shitty "nice guy" advice. Non-judgmental, accepting, and kind men get what they want because they deserve it, lol. So change your mind or at least shut the fuck up, and maybe someone will spare you a crumb of pussy... hilarious.
/r/MGTOW17/04/20 11:00 AM
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I am the rare happily married man. I've been married to my wife for over five years, and been in a relationship with her for more than ten years. During the large majority of this time I have been unemployed, while she works to pay the bills, cooks for me, and fucks on command. So it is not a guarantee she will leave if you don't have money, but: I'm a pretty man, my wife is not a classic beauty. She knows she would never be able to land a guy as sexy as me if something happened. I have massive …
/r/MGTOW17/04/20 10:35 AM
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"when you've been warned not to"? Warned by who, her? Lol. Look man, I'm married and not totally against relationships, but my inclination would be to get the hell out of there. But I am replying because it sounds like you are determined to stay. You need to change the power dynamic in your relationship if you want to do that, with red pill knowledge and techniques. It may be slow and you may still end up fucked, but it can work, so if you really think there is something to her maybe you should …
/r/MGTOW13/04/20 07:08 AM
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This post cracked me the hell up, thanks for that. I have had this feeling a million times with women, every one that I've ever been with. My favorite trick is when they rephrase what I said except replace a bunch of words to make it sound like I was being an asshole. Then when I say "I didn't say X, I said Y" they will accuse me of nitpicking. No bitch, I'm not nitpicking, you are lying. And now we aren't talking about that argument that you were just losing... Don't try. You will have better l…
/r/MGTOW13/04/20 06:39 AM
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Haha, no argument from me on that point. For many men, it will not be worth the effort. I am lucky in many ways and would still never marry again knowing what I know now. I was just trying to give actual advice on how to have as nice of a LTR as possible for the lurkers the OP referred to, instead of telling them misleading fairy tales about mythical beasts. Good women are not found through a vetting process (although that can give you better material to work with), they are created through tedi…
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 09:19 PM
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No such thing as unicorns, my man. Take it from me, they are all hoes, and I am a guy in a happy marriage with an unusually chill and devoted woman. Things like low partner count and good dad relationship definitely correlate with better women, but I'm not buying the Christian and conservative stuff. In my experience those girls are just as bad. My biggest advice for finding a good woman is to make sure that you are way prettier than she is, and set up a D/s dynamic with her as soon as possible.…
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 03:34 PM
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I am a huge nerd who had some physical hobbies before taking the pill, but I had never lifted. Starting to is one of the best decisions I have ever made. It improves your mood and health in ways you will not even understand until you try. You will just always be more comfortable and confident with a healthy physique. It teaches you about your body, nutrition, and the names and functions of muscle groups and nutrients. When the change becomes noticeable, you will find that people treat you with m…
/r/MGTOW13/03/20 02:59 PM
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I get what you are saying here, and agree that this is the ultimate goal of TRP. However, "just be your (best) self" is not actionable advice that will help anyone reach a goal. And you can take direct action to increase your chances of pulling pussy without being ruled by a need for external validation. It is like dressing well for a job interview - doing so doesn't mean one is ruled by money. It just means that one wants the best chance possible of getting more money. My conception of my "best…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/20 12:50 PM
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If you still give a shit what women think of you, then you haven't actually taken the pill. When you truly realize that bitches ain't shit, then you don't do anything for them.
/r/MGTOW12/03/20 05:22 PM
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This is good information. One of the things that really struck me upon first taking the pill is how much difference even just some small changes can make to how attractive women find you. Some specific tips I would add: You mentioned eye contact briefly, but I think that it is still usually underrated as a technique. Once you are physically attractive enough (LIFT) staring women down will make them melt, provided you do it with a smirk and a sexual twinkle in your eye. Practice by pretending you…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/20 03:54 PM
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Looking good for men is part of it, but this guy is mostly right in my pretty well-informed opinion. Women wear makeup even when they are going out to a friend's house with only a bunch of women in attendance. Women want to look good for other women. Enticing men into sex is easy for them without tricks, and enticing men into relationships is easy with sex. In an essay I posted on TRP a while back, I make the case that women have evolved to be fitness indicators for men. This is why preselection…
/r/MGTOW11/03/20 08:47 PM
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After my first relationship ended just after High School, long before the pill, I basically stopped all gift giving for traditional reasons, even to my family. I expect no gifts, and I give no gifts - unless I see something and am actually inspired to get it for someone in the moment. No one ever gives me shit about it. When I am in a relationship with a girl, we go out together and have a fun experience on important dates; I woo with shared experiences and memories, not bribes.
/r/MGTOW07/02/20 06:00 PM
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Well, I don't have any secrets if that is what you are hoping for, it is all pretty textbook red pill and PUA stuff: Started lifting and got muscular. Everyone is way shallower than you think they are, especially women. Improved posture and eye contact. Stand up straight, take up space, and every time you make eye contact hold it until she looks away first (unless you can't for logistical reasons, like driving or something). Sounds dumb, but it makes women like you more to a degree you cannot un…
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 09:43 PM
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Hard to offer specific advice without more detail. I found the pill while married, but my marriage was already better than most I think, at least based on what I've heard. True happiness comes from within - it is a choice that you have to keep making. If you are looking for relationships to provide you with happiness, then you will be disappointed. If you were already looking within to find happiness, then finding TRP wouldn't affect it. You are still clinging to blue pill notions about what a r…
/r/MGTOW04/02/20 08:46 PM
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From the perspective of not a woman this problem seems so easy to solve - just show and tell Mr. Wonderful how you like to get fucked. Of course, women have evolved not to help betas pass as alpha (because how else can you find the real alphas), so this wouldn't even occur to them.
/r/MGTOW03/02/20 03:52 PM
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Women use words and social cues for different things than men do. We are interested primarily in communicating, they are interested primarily in getting benefits by manipulating people. A man usually laughs because something is funny or talks to transfer information. A woman usually laughs or talks to manipulate the people around her. He thinks "That shit is hilarious." or "How do I best explain this?"; she thinks "Let's see if I can (make him my bitch | generate sexual interest)" or "How do I b…
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 06:26 PM
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Next time you see her, make sure to explain about how stay at home moms are just as bad.
/r/MGTOW30/01/20 06:03 PM
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They are inherent but were kept under wraps by the culture and practicalities of living in various ways. Women have been this way for a long time, and evolutionary forces are to blame, not society.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 06:58 PM
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Yes, after getting in shape my wife says to me that my new physique "makes [her] feel shallow," lol. Women will randomly touch me and give me free shit at the bar, etc. Hilarious how they are wired up to be so shallow but cannot see it in themselves; cannot admit it or address it in an effort to become a better person.
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 06:54 PM
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MGTOW isn't about hating women. I am a happily married man, and I still come on here to warn other men and get informed. There are bad women and good women, but all of you have the same bad instincts, much like how men have their own collection of bad instincts. Over time, as a group, you have gotten encouraged not to fight these instincts, and as a result most of you are a huge pain in the ass. A large proportion of you are now also greedy and dangerous. I've lived all over the U.S., and am han…
/r/MGTOW29/01/20 05:54 PM
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Are you muscular and/or good looking? Nothing turns them on more than being ignored or belittled by an attractive man, it is truly hilarious. Sometimes I wish I had found out how shallow and easily manipulated they are when I was younger, but really I'd probably have a zillion STDs or be dead by now. Now that I don't want to fuck anything in a skirt anymore it is fun to avoid/ignore them and watch them fall apart trying to get my attention while I brush off or insult them at every turn.
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 09:34 PM
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You're a pussy but it isn't your fault, brother, most of us have been there. You need to really internalize the red pill and realize that bitches ain't shit. Breakups won't hurt you if you truly stop judging yourself by women's standards and craving their validation. So you broke up because she turned out to be a shitty person? Great, she can fuck off, who needs a shitty person around. So she broke up with you? Her loss, there is plenty of nice pussy around if you want it, go find a friendly one…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 09:16 PM
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Hard work and improving yourself I can get behind. But do it for yourself in this life, not for some nebulous "legacy." You don't get to enjoy things after you die, and even Kobe will be nothing but a forgotten statistical footnote in only one or two hundred years.
/r/TheRedPill28/01/20 02:36 PM
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But I can’t rely on her for those things, to amp me up, to make me confident, to make me feel like a god damn man. No, you can't. If you are looking for this out of a romantic relationship with a woman you are looking in the wrong place. You will have to be the emotional strength no matter which woman you are with. ​ It’s only with the promise of what is to be that she continues. [...] I question severely whether or not she would stay if I said babe, I want to be the stay at home dad. Lets have …
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 02:24 PM
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The question at some point became, ‘what is the actual benefit of a relationship for me?’ Yes, this is the rub isn't it? Any commitment just works against you, so why? The main benefit for me is probably safer unprotected sex, but beyond that it is hard for me to come up with legitimate reasons. We are in pretty much identical places (wife making the money and fucking on command) but I do appreciate my wife for more than the money. She is a great cook and companion, we have overlapping tastes in…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 01:07 PM
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Hey man, been through that exact chain of thoughts myself. If it is any consolation - I am happily married and I still have thoughts like that sometimes. We all make mistakes, all we can do is keep grinding and trying to find joy wherever we can. Happiness is a choice, which I know sounds trite, but it becomes a more obvious truth to me everyday. If you are looking for advice, you should start by working on your health; exercise and eating right will give you something to focus on and also impro…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 11:58 AM
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I've pretty much been bouncing between women, fucking them silly for years while they bring home the bacon, for most of my adult life. I too ended up married before I found the pill (but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else). It has been very interesting to me that now when I have sex on tap and a pretty awesome wife, I still find myself here questioning things. The buttons are now so obvious that pushing them is getting boring, and just being committed to her holds me back in many ways. But I…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 11:38 AM
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Yes, I agree that the guy in the original post is correct about the effects of women's proclivities on societies. However, I disagree about the underlying evolutionary causes of the phenomenon being related to group selection in any way. I suspect it is just a side effect of women testing the fitness of individual men around them in the quest for alphas.
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 10:43 AM
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Sure, I understand that testing individual men for fitness can lead to various destructive outcomes for society (see my post linked in my original reply). My whole point was that I think that this is the actual mechanism pushing their evolution, rather than an effect introduced by group selection itself as alluded to in the original post. Again, I can see many reasons that a gene for testing individual men would be beneficial, but not any good ones for why undermining society as a whole would be…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 10:38 AM
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I don't come on here to write things that people will like; I come for discussion and in an attempt to find truth. I don't come to make anyone listen; I come to share. If you guys don't want to hear what I have to say because "NOBODY wants to hear someone say how good they have it," regardless of truth value, then it is you who is losing a perspective. Why would I lay out "how [I] had problems and how [I] fixed em," when that is unrelated to the topic of the post and to the point i was trying to…
/r/MGTOW28/01/20 10:24 AM
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I came here to say this. I have heard the theory about group selection that more beta tribes will eventually lose out to more alpha ones, but have never before heard it proposed that this mechanism could actually cause women to evolve to have a propensity to wreck societies. When you think about it though, how would this actually happen? Does wrecking the society actually lead to a reproductive benefit that women who don't do it are missing out on? If so, how? While it seems to me that there wou…
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 09:11 PM
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If, even for a second, you believe men are pure, rational beings, you're as delusioned as any religious person who has ever existed. Okay... good thing I don't believe that and never said anything like it. What I did say is that the red pill becoming common knowledge may make men "move toward becoming beings of pure reason" - obviously we will never get there, if such a state even exists. I was describing our possible trajectory, not our likely destination. Much like how I strive to move toward …
/r/TheRedPill27/01/20 08:40 PM
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Stop explaining yourself to internet strangers. No. ​ We don’t buy it and we see your situation for what it is. Best of luck either way No worries, just trying to give a more balanced perspective by sharing the experience of a man who is happily married. If you don't buy it, that's fine, but I doubt you will see much of anything for "what it is" if you discount the experiences of anyone you don't already agree with. Good luck to you as well, my friend!
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 08:06 PM
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I was playing devil's advocate as the post and all replies so far already laid out the negative side of the marriage argument pretty well. I could of course have opened with my frustrations, but since they weren't germane to the point I was trying to make (that not all married men are actually frogs in pots as claimed by OP), I am not sure why I would mention them. I even granted the OPs point in general in the last paragraph of my reply. Call it bragging if you like, but I was just presenting t…
/r/MGTOW27/01/20 08:01 PM
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I initially found the pill when I was frustrated with my wife and searched for what boils down to ten different versions of "are all women really like this?" My marriage has always been above average (although I didn't know this prior to finding TRP), but it has been getting better and better since. I find myself on MGTOW because I agree with you guys about almost everything, and often have my doubts about whether the annoyances of a woman are worth it even in my relationship. So I think for man…
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 11:59 PM
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It really isn't hard to "act" alpha if you truly believe women are emotional manipulators (i.e. if you have actually internalized the red pill) who are unworthy of your unearned respect or attention. It comes quite naturally. And what are the police, judges, or courts going to do to me? Take away my non-existent money? Give her custody of our imaginary children? I purposely have no assets; if anyone was going to be paying alimony after a divorce it would be her.
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 11:42 PM
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But you are here pontificating because of noble intentions, right? Even though I couldn't possibly be. I never said my wife wasn't a woman; I found the pill by basically searching for "is AWALT true?"; I find myself on MGTOW because I agree with you guys about almost everything, and often have my doubts about whether the annoyances of a woman are worth it even in my relationship. The juice is just still worth the squeeze to me as long as she upholds her end of the bargain.
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 11:35 PM
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Y'all can read my post history if you want; I am an open book. We've been together over 10 years, married over 5. She cannot fuck me up as I have no money and we have no kids - what exactly can she possibly do to me?
/r/MGTOW26/01/20 11:27 PM
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I am pretty good looking in my late thirties and I could pick up twenty-something college girls at the bar with ease. If you are decently tall, all you have to do is put on some muscle and learn how to tease bitches. Whatever you do though, don't have kids or get married, yikes (and this is coming from a happily married man). Even basic commitment makes women like you less overall, so it isn't worth the risk unless she is exceptional and you really hate condoms.
/r/MGTOW24/01/20 10:46 PM
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Yes, it is not a man/woman dichotomy really, it is an alpha/beta mindset one; Woujo has written some insightful things on this topic. Women fall more naturally into the beta role, but plenty of men end up there as well thanks to the current culture.
/r/MGTOW24/01/20 10:38 PM
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Yes, as is usual with women, she is projecting. She would take a man's service for granted and think less of him for it, so she assumes we would have the same reaction.
/r/MGTOW24/01/20 10:02 PM
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Now now, not all of us wuss out and get fucked in our marriages. My wife will drop to her knees for me when she gets home from working all day to make our money; then, after I pull it out of her mouth, she'll go make dinner. Tomorrow we are going spelunking together. I don't ask permission for shit, and my wife would ask my permission to spend anything more than like $10 of the money that she made. But, to be fair, I only know one other marriage that from the outside seems like it might be as go…
/r/MGTOW24/01/20 09:56 PM
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Warning is not the same as whining. Any benefits gained from improving other skills will be rendered null or coopted by others if one is not aware of the hidden dangers lurking all around. The first step and main priority for men to live fulfilling informed lives is always going to be getting them to look past the propaganda and their own biological proclivities which push them to regard women as lovely and worthy of devotion, protection, and support. To most men, quicksand is invisible and puma…
/r/MGTOW24/01/20 07:28 PM
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This sub is to help men trying to survive and forge their own path through the jungle of modern life. Why are there so many posts about snakes, pumas, and quicksand? Because that shit will kill you.
/r/MGTOW24/01/20 06:24 PM
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Interesting that you post this right after Dalrock pulls the plug on his blog, as this (women as the new god) is a theme he addresses over and over again. I believe you are right in the long run about the pill just becoming common knowledge, but I wonder how it will manifest. Will there be a Christian or Muslim revival? Will new secular religions spring up and take over the culture, like MGTOW or perhaps something science based? Or will men just slowly and independently move toward becoming bein…
/r/TheRedPill23/01/20 06:40 PM
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Or dick/excitement. I have never had any money but chicks love me because I'm hot, fun, fuck good, and have massive social capital. The point is that they only like what you can provide them, if you are not giving them some resource that they value then they do not give a shit about you.
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 06:45 PM
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Solace and comfort provided by a wife are ersatz and come at a cost. She may think she is supportive, she may want to be supportive, she may put on a brave face and do her duty in public, but rest assured - her lizard brain is in high alert every time she has to fulfill this role. Deep down all her instincts are going "Fuck, this guy is way more of a wuss than I thought, will I be able to count on him if something actually bad happens?" The more understanding she is and the more awesome you have…
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 05:26 PM
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I wouldn't say he absolves them, but he does try to make it clear that what we as men see as "shit behavior" is not the same thing that women see as "shit behavior". We have evolved different basic ethics as a result of having different evolutionary pressures on us. Both women and men have instincts to do things that are "immoral" from one perspective or another, and I think Rollo would agree that women are responsible for not controlling some aspects of their nature as much as they should if th…
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 04:42 PM
1

I got married in the middle of the 2010s, but I had no clue what the red pill actually was. I was aware of it, but thought it was basically "Most women are just interested in money or babies, so watch out." I never found it because I never had a reason to look, and I had been trying to reduce my time online for years anyway. I only got a reddit account after I took the pill. It seems obvious to you because you know about it, but think about guys who don't spend a lot of time online or who haven'…
/r/MGTOW16/01/20 04:19 PM
1

I think if it feels like you are faking, then you haven't really taken the pill. Once you know how women operate, treating them like inferior sluts comes naturally. Of course, they still may not be worth it, but I feel like a change to one's attitude in the direction of "alpha asshole" is a natural consequence of fully internalizing the pill.
/r/MGTOW13/01/20 08:58 PM
1

I'm not going to go into detail here, and I don't have kids, but I have managed to improve my marriage a lot with the red pill (although it sounds like you are starting off in a more difficult position than me). Reading Rollo and taking the pill can be a total mindfuck and might bum you out, but I would highly recommend you study up so you can make an educated decision about whether you want to try to improve your marriage or get out of it. If you want to talk to someone about the process and te…
/r/MGTOW11/01/20 02:40 PM
1

My marriage gets better all the time, but it has nothing to do with keeping her happy. You are indeed asking the wrong question and focusing on the wrong things. If you are serious about this, first familiarize yourself with the red pill (I can tell you haven't yet by your terrible question). My quick advice would be to think of her like a dog you are training, set boundaries and enforce them, keep her under your thumb and doing things for you, and constantly sexualize her. But I would still adv…
/r/MGTOW11/01/20 02:21 PM
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There is some truth to the fact that he has gotten repetitive over time as he walks down the same intellectual paths looking for things to point out that he missed the first time. And I've never read his actual books. But the essays on his site are what gave me the pill, and I am really not sure that I would have found it otherwise. Maybe IM or like Bonecracker or something could have gotten through to me if I had found them (which I wouldn't have), but Rollo's style appeals to me and I still th…
/r/TheRedPill11/01/20 01:10 PM
4

I believe we are experiencing a Fisherian runaway scenario in which women are acting as the selectors and the fitness indicators of men simultaneously. This has led to a self-reenforcing cycle in which women are evolving to be ever more of a burden on men, as being more costly makes them better fitness indicators. I have outlined this theory in a post on TRP, and I would love more opinions and discussion about the idea. It can't be the culture alone that is doing it because: One would expect to …
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 10:17 PM
2

I have what I would consider an excellent marriage to a great woman. My wife provides me with additional money, cooks well, fucks/sucks on command, has good overlap in hobbies and media preferences with me, mostly does what I say without a bunch of bullshit, is an excellent adventure and travel companion, etc. She is a great sidekick. Honestly LTRs are worth it to me just because I hate condoms so damn much, and it is less risky to go raw when you are tested and monogamous. BUT I would still rec…
/r/MGTOW09/01/20 09:35 PM
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She has a kid with a beta so that he has to keep paying her after she starts fucking Chad again. That way she gets the bucks and the fucks.
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 09:40 PM
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Actually, I think they are biologically hardwired to act this way. I suspect women act as fitness indicators for men, which means their profligate waste is actually a feature from an evolutionary perspective, because it indicates that the man they are attached to must be very fit in order to sustain them. I outlined this theory in a post on the TRP sub a while back, if anyone is interested. I would love more opinions/discussion about the idea: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/bo8xdk/…
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 03:55 PM
1

Actually, I found season two rather interesting; I believe it is an intentional red pill parable. I'll explain, but spoilers: The guy is struggling to try to be morally good in order to get the girl that he perceives as good. Then he finds out that really she was secretly more evil than him the entire time (which initially disgusts him and makes him recoil from her), and he must choose between trying to live morally and getting with the girl he's been fixated on. So, I actually enjoyed it. Some …
/r/MGTOW08/01/20 02:16 PM
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The past is dead, brother. The only thing that has any bearing on your life is where you are right now and what you've learned and accumulated. The past is just the particular series of happenstances that led you to this point; perhaps if you made different choices you'd be better off, but perhaps you'd be worse off, or perhaps you'd be in the exact same situation via different means. All that matters is the present, how you got here is, quite literally, completely irrelevant. Worrying about the…
/r/MGTOW07/01/20 08:11 PM
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Yes, this is one of the harder aspects of the pill to come to terms with, but it really shouldn't be. Why do we expect women to provide us emotional support in the first place? They are the genetic selectors, trying to find the guy with the strongest genes both physically and emotionally. Any help that you need because you aren't already strong enough reflects badly on you because women are wired by evolution to be turned on by strength and disgusted by weakness. This desire for them to take car…
/r/TheRedPill07/01/20 06:54 PM
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"You can only see as far as your headlights, but you can make the whole trip that way."
/r/TheRedPill06/01/20 11:46 PM
4

Right? I tell the guy that if he builds a strong enough fortress it will take more than one missile to blow it up, and his response is "Cool, I guess I'll go ahead and shoot some missiles at my own base now!" My wife is a ridiculous outlier in how easygoing she is for a woman and even she would get impatient with a bunch of emo crap pretty quickly. There is no need to sabotage yourself by leaking feefees all over her, guys; make the effort and learn to master your emotions instead.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/20 09:37 PM
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I'm married (to just about the most chill woman ever), and you can get away with it sometimes, but you still never should. Being open is fine, and feeling down sometimes is fine, but you can't be open about anything that makes you look like a wuss or be down about anything that isn't a very big deal (or anything at all for very long) without losing some of her esteem. Basically, the more understanding she is and the more awesome you've been lately the more "wuss points" you get to accumulate bef…
/r/TheRedPill06/01/20 04:07 PM
2

If logic were the only thing driving our behavior perhaps you would be right - but it isn't and you aren't. There will always be men trying to achieve blue pill goals with red pill tools, and men who are "red pilled" but who don't really get it or believe it fully.
/r/MGTOW29/12/19 02:26 PM
40

Actually, that's the total N count at 17. You have to subtract her count at 16 (50) to come up with the count of how many she fucked while 17 (20). She also apparently lost her virginity at the tender age of 11, and had 13 sex partners by age 13. Hawt.
/r/MGTOW29/12/19 02:12 PM
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I've been running chick game pretty much my whole life, letting them work while I fuck them stupid and "keep house". I've been married over 5 years now (together over 10) and though I'd never recommend it, you can do it if you are attractive enough. It's probably better to avoid the relationship and just fuck though, unless you have a really good reason - they are still women, committing to them just makes it harder to keep them interested.
/r/MGTOW27/12/19 07:47 AM
1

Seems like a lot of work to deal with a "rotating cast of younger hotties", all with their own needs and expectations and risks involved. I'd rather do my own cooking tbh. Like Tom Leykis said, "my favorite cook is me". Well, you do you. Even if I GMOW I will still probably fuck, it really isn't that much effort for me. The point of doing it with a rotating cast instead of committing is that I wouldn't have to worry about their needs and expectations like I do in an LTR, I would just tell them t…
/r/MGTOW23/12/19 06:31 AM
1

Okay, I'll expand on this even though you're probably the only one who will see it. ​ Does she talk down to you and treat you disrespectfully? If she talked down or disrespected me verbally in any real way I would end the relationship immediately; I have no patience for disrespect or bad manners. ​ Why is it not worth it? The crux of it is that everything good you get from a woman in a relationship is more costly to you because of the fact that you are in a relationship. The main perk of being i…
/r/MGTOW22/12/19 02:08 PM
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My friend, I am a happily married man. My wife works (I don't), cooks for me on the regular, and fucks/sucks me on command. It is close to what I would have considered a dream relationship in my youth - and yet I find myself on MGTOW often, because it still feels like it isn't worth it sometimes. You are only interested because of your dick or your misguided desire for "love" (a.k.a. mother need). Women are incapable of providing that kind of love, and relationships aren't worth it just for puss…
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 03:53 PM
1

I'm married, been pilled about a year. It is easy to get mad, but try to keep in mind that many men (including your father) may not have known to warn you. They may have thought they were just unlucky, or been worried that you were not in a place to accept the truth. As for being mad at women... I've gone from being furious about my wife's behavior/motivations to accepting that it is just the way they are. My wife is great compared to most, but AWALT. I barely even want sex anymore now that I re…
/r/MGTOW21/12/19 03:10 PM
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Yes, it is hilarious to me that women argue against sex dolls by listing the things that they can do that the doll can't. It just doesn't occur to them that the doll's lack of features is made up for by its lack of drawbacks. There are so many problems with women that many of us would rather bond with a lump of plastic because at least it can't hurt us or steal from us. It is like the old saw about how you don't pay hookers for sex, you pay them to leave afterwards. Women have trouble understand…
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 05:57 PM
4

If she threw away your stuff without asking you, it is probably a shit test. If she threw away her stuff that you or she will need to replace, it is probably because she has evolved to be a black hole for resources. If she threw away stuff because it was out of style, it is probably because she feels compelled to get updated stuff to better fit in with the group or display cues of social dominance by better mimicking the style of women with high SMV.
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 08:38 AM
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I mean, I agree with the general idea that they don't commit, but they also want dick from hot guys in addition to money. This will get them to "commit" just as much as cash. I've basically been running chick game my whole life, fucking them retarded while they pay the bills and I "keep house". I'm married now (wouldn't recommend it, obviously) and my wife gets boned good, access to my social capital, and an interesting travel and conversational companion. No paycheck or financial support though…
/r/MGTOW20/12/19 08:24 AM
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This is correct, and it points the way to achieving the right mental state in which a break up won't bother you at all. Disentangle your ego from the opinions of women, truly realize that you are awesome and their feelings about you have absolutely nothing to do with your value as a person. If you actually internalize this belief, then all it means when you break up is that you need to find another friendly pussy to replace the old one. And you should have been ready for this anyway, it was just…
/r/TheRedPill19/12/19 05:54 PM
1

https://therationalmale.com/2019/09/03/selective-breeding/
/r/MGTOW18/12/19 09:21 PM
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So you are saying that if I have multiple things I'd like to get done without forgetting, I should make a list? Thanks for the hot tip...
/r/TheRedPill18/12/19 06:26 PM
2

She's sweet almost never responds to texts, she's cancelled at least 3 times she's old-fashioned has TONS of followers on social media all telling her how special she is, has got tattoos Sure, man. Doesn't sound at all like you are projecting your idea of a good match onto her and falling in love with a fantasy. Honestly, this post read like satire to me. And if simply realizing you are a delusional idiot isn't enough to snap you out of this, remember: whether you want her or not, this attitude …
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 07:42 PM
1

Haha yup. Even if you aren't trying to fuck them, your interactions with women will be improved a lot if you really take and understand the pill. His first mistake was "sorry," taking the blame for something that wasn't his fault. Then she reads the next message like "I'm such a friendless loser that I will be all alone for Christmas, so funny." She's thinking "Why am I even talking to this pathetic wimp? Gross." I'm not trying to knock you either OP, you are probably a cool guy who has a spine …
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 06:07 PM
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This is the same "logic" that is behind the idea that if you don't harass women, you don't need to worry about #MeToo. Where "logic" means "irrational belief that women never deceive people."
/r/MGTOW16/12/19 05:45 PM
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especially the feeling of transcendent connection during sex I do not think that they experience this. I actually remember the exact moment when whatever psychic tendon I had connecting sex to emotion in my mind was severed irrevocably. My wife made some comment about how men were gross for always thinking of sex to which I replied something like, "Yes, it is really disgusting how we want to experience the ultimate emotional and physical closeness with another person as often as possible." She t…
/r/MGTOW13/12/19 08:37 PM
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Yeah, I hate this argument too. Water comes out of the tap, clean proteins (even precooked) and frozen vegetables at a grocery store are orders of magnitude cheaper than fast food, and just as quick to pop in the microwave. Unless you live in a food desert, if you aren't eating right it is because you are lazy or picky - not poor.
/r/TheRedPill06/12/19 05:55 PM
2

I am married to a woman who works while I keep house. She cooks, and is good at it. She is attractive to me, fucks and sucks on command, and gets dripping wet for me almost every time. Thanks to TRP, I basically have a "perfect" relationship by any reasonable measure. And yet, here I am on MGTOW anyway, still seriously wondering if it is really worth it. If I left my wife I could make more money, see my family more, fuck a rotating cast of hot young bitches, etc. Now that I know better how my wi…
/r/MGTOW05/12/19 05:40 PM
4

I agree that lifting kicks ass and reduces stress. But it does this the way all exercise does - by giving you a positive activity to focus on instead which requires concentration, by loosening up tight muscles you've been clenching, and by flooding your body with different hormones and endorphins which improve your mood. There is no need to fill people's heads with woowoo garbage like this stuff: You may not like it, but emotions need to be released. Emotions embed themselves in our body like an…
/r/TheRedPill05/12/19 04:32 PM
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I got as far as: I was sharing my feelings And then I had the same reaction.
/r/TheRedPill23/11/19 09:58 PM
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Wouldn’t you rather have something that you know you earned than something that was just given to you? Word. This is something I noticed people were missing even right after I took the pill. The gut reaction of most men seems to be that women's standards are a bad thing, unfair, or even evil. This is from my first post here: It is pretty interesting to me how many of you men are shocked by some of the revelations of TRP, even to the point of offense and misogyny. So there is no such thing as unc…
/r/TheRedPill23/11/19 02:52 PM
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Well, it is a few things. First, I was lucky in the genetic lottery and am a sexy looking dude with a fat dick. I find my wife very attractive, but she isn't a classic beauty that every guy is going to be into. Her family is much poorer than mine. I also have a huge amount of social capital, and am well known and respected in the groups we interact with. The main point is that she knows she won't be able to do better - so the best plan is to always try to be the most awesome guy you can be.
/r/MGTOW23/11/19 02:38 PM
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But when it comes to dating I have just can’t do it. I’m too nervous but I’m not nervous with escorts. Even though I understand redpill but my my bluepill condition is too strong I don’t how to break it. Maybe you intellectually "understand" TRP (though I have my doubts), but if you really believed it was true then this would not be an issue for you. Bitches ain't shit. Choke down that pill and treat them the way they deserve to be treated. Trust me - they love it.
/r/TheRedPill22/11/19 08:56 PM
1

Every couple I know in a LTR that are still happy have this power dynamic, including my wife and I. I am convinced it is the only way to keep both parties engaged over the long haul, but I hear it is becoming harder to find women that are actually willing to submit to a man. I can only speak from personal experience, but here are my tips for LTR success, OP: Have a much higher SMV than her. Vet well. In my case I decided pre-pill to make sure I was not a professional success until after I found …
/r/MGTOW22/11/19 05:33 PM
5

Sex is about you. Knowing that you can score. Knowing that you are desirable to certain women and skilled enough to make sex happen. It’s not even really about what the woman you’re having sex with thinks about you. If "knowing that you are desirable" is part of it then it is about what she thinks. She must desire you for you to know you are desirable. It’s about you knowing what you are capable of. It’s about you knowing that you can meet your own sexual needs and that you are desirable. For me…
/r/TheRedPill22/11/19 08:22 AM
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I swear, the more I get used to the pill, the more my marriage feels like this. Guys, operant conditioning is your friend. Reward her with compliments and attention when she does good, and punish by taking that shit away when she does bad; including taking away the whole relationship if she does something really bad (like seriously ask to go to Europe without you). It is all just different ways of saying "setting boundaries and enforcing them with the appropriate severity". Women are made, not b…
/r/TheRedPill14/11/19 06:21 PM
2

You sound torn, so I will give what is becoming my standard devil's advocate response. I don't hate women, am married since before taking the pill, love my wife (cooks, total whore for me, works while I keep house). Nonetheless: - These guys are basically right about women. - Don't ever get married. I wouldn't do it again as it is an unnecessary legal burden. If you want to do something insane like have children, do it somewhere where you won't automatically be considered married or otherwise ge…
/r/MGTOW13/11/19 07:15 PM
1

Please provide some actual data that workout+visualization achieves greater results than just workout. The fact that you got great results by doing X, Y, and Z does not prove that X, Y, and Z are all required inputs for those great results. Because really, this post is ridiculous. You cannot alter physical reality with your thoughts alone. Perhaps this technique helps you personally focus or improve your form, but all that matters is that you do the exercise and do it correctly. You cannot contr…
/r/TheRedPill13/11/19 05:10 PM
1

Yes, I am conflicted about my situation, have you never been unsure of what your next best move would be? My wife has been nothing but good to me, and it would seem selfish and fucked up to me to go back on my vows and blow up her life unless I am quite sure I know what I want. The comment about the money I could make if I went MOW is because I live in an area where I cannot leverage my skills (too rural). You could be similarly confused about why I don't just visit my family with all my free ti…
/r/MGTOW06/11/19 03:37 PM
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I was married when I took the red pill, and I still am. My wife is great. She works, cooks, and fucks me whenever I want. I am a house husband and basically just clean up and do whatever I want. It is close to what a teenage version of myself would have considered a dream relationship. And yet... here I am on MGTOW. Love just doesn't mean the same thing to me anymore. I remember reading that saying "You can love women, or you can understand them" soon after I found the pill, and being sure that …
/r/MGTOW05/11/19 10:23 PM
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Honestly I think the 1-10 scale is pretty subjective and silly; I've always been a pass/fail guy on looks myself. Can she boner me up? If so, we are fine in that department. I've always been much more concerned with finding a non-idiot with a polite submissive attitude, as these attributes are much more rare and valuable than "fuckable" to me.
/r/TheRedPill05/11/19 10:03 PM
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Women go nuts for a guy who unapologetically tells the truth and has some balls. Yup. A year ago when I first took the pill I remember reading about negs and thinking "Oh, I do enough of this just by being honest." I have always been brutally honest to women and it works great. I remember one time I was hanging out with this chick at a party, and at a lull in our conversation she asked me what I was thinking about. With no filter and no hesitation I gave her the honest answer: "Raping your face.…
/r/TheRedPill05/11/19 12:26 PM
6

Military, police, and the justice system cannot be privatized. And there are many other situations in which the private market can also be ineffective and counterproductive for various reasons, such as providing schooling, medical care, and infrastructure for people in areas not densely populated enough to support a competitive market. A cogent argument can be made for putting services of that type under government purview as well. Taxes are a necessary evil.
/r/MGTOW04/11/19 09:39 PM
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I feel that redpill is still true, but on the other hand what hurts me the most is not only loosing her, but knowing that if redpill is true I will never be able to have an honest relation. Its impossible to live long time with someone and not to lose frame ever, its impossible to spinn plates for ever...its impossible to be always a rock, to be always able to walks away...I am human and I cant pretend to be what I am not for such a long time, neither do I want to. The red pill is the truth, and…
/r/TheRedPill03/11/19 01:22 PM
5

Perhaps you were suspicious from day one about marriage, but try to remember that everyone has different genetics and experiences, and is born into a different culture. What seems obvious to you may be almost impossible for another man to realize given his particular circumstances, through no fault of his own. these are the exact same people who before getting married come to guys like us, calling us incels and telling us we should men up while flaunting their amazing unicorn NAWALT They are not…
/r/MGTOW01/11/19 03:28 PM
5

I am not really MGTOW, still happily married, but red pilled. I believe that a healthy relationship is possible, though the odds of actually finding one are getting more vanishingly rare by the day. So I am not opposed to the idea of relationships generally if entered into with extreme caution. But you made the right call here. Relationships are hard enough as it is, but long distance never works. I've tried it (with my high school sweetheart, who fucked around on me and lied), I know many peopl…
/r/MGTOW30/10/19 12:39 PM
1

Regardless of whether or not it was invented specifically for that purpose, that effect is the primary reason that the most popular extant religions are what they are. Monogamy unleashes the productive capacity of the beta male by giving him "guaranteed" paternity, thus religions/civilizations that enforce this standard will produce and innovate more and out compete alternative social structures. We are surrounded by religions that promote monogamy because they won they evolutionary war of cultu…
/r/MGTOW26/10/19 05:16 AM
1

When the researchers analyzed the data further, matching single women's assumed desired qualities in a spouse against actual available men, they found even more disheartening news. Older women would have an especially hard time finding an acceptable mate. The same was true for minority women, especially if they were African American, and for highly educated women. Does this mean older women and minorities are pickier? Oh wait, it can't mean that, because they didn't ask women what they wanted, t…
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 08:22 PM
4

I wonder if some of them just want the type of love that is impossible with a woman, but they are not really gay... so they capitulate to the feminine (beta) role to have a "heterosexual" relationship with a man. I mean, I remember wishing that I was gay as a teenager so I could just fuck someone who wanted to play video games with me all day, lol. Hell, it still sounds appealing.
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 05:13 PM
3

My mom knows that I will never have children and has given me many thousands of dollars when I have been in rough spots over the years. I don't know that she'd like, take a bullet for me, but she has my back generally. If I needed help right now I am confident that I could get a place to stay or money from many family members, cousins, uncles, siblings, parents, and even ex-step-family members. Obviously not every family is like this, but there is a reason why people bemoan the death of true fam…
/r/MGTOW25/10/19 04:37 PM
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True story. I kept thinking someone would reward you based on what you did, but it is bullshit all the way down. If you want to survive in that environment, you have to learn to get over "unfairness" and just work by the book while looking out for your own interests - not the interests of the collective. Scheming and charm are more effective than like, trying to actually achieve goals or whatever. The only "jobs" I've had that rewarded effort and ability consistently were, hilariously, criminal …
/r/MGTOW23/10/19 06:59 AM
2

One of the creepiest parts of taking the pill for me was this shit. Once I learned how to tell when they wanted me and started lifting, I noticed I was getting sexual interest not just from middle-aged women, but from kids and old grannies. So gross, just stay the hell away from me, please. It is now easy for me to see how weaker or more naive men get in trouble though; if an underage girl isolates you, they can fuck you over in 50 different ways.
/r/MGTOW18/10/19 04:50 PM
4

It is a combination of evolutionary factors: They are weaker and unable to defend themselves physically, so they try to avoid blame or responsibility of any kind as that is their best strategy for avoiding negative consequences. They cannot tell you what they want from you (even if they know), because if they told you then they would never be able to know if your genes really measure up or whether you are just trying to trick her into thinking you are actually awesome. Cooperating to make you be…
/r/MGTOW08/10/19 07:41 PM
2

Also keep in mind that humans likely used to exist in a state of soft polygamy, which would result in groups of women who are both working together for the good of their family/man/children and simultaneously competing over the attention and resources of the man they shared. All female relationships include some kind of competitive dynamic. Additionally, I think that women have evolved to be de facto fitness indicators for men (which explains the power of pre-selection). Women evolved to constan…
/r/MGTOW19/09/19 08:35 PM
2

I am not MGTOW (yet), as I have been married since before I took the pill. My marriage has only improved and I still do not regret doing it in the first place, although I would never marry again knowing what I know now. Here are characteristics of my marriage now that I don't think I would be willing to compromise on in a relationship going forward, whether with my wife or another woman: Some kind of D/s relationship where I have ultimate decision making authority and unlimited exclusive sexual …
/r/MGTOW19/09/19 06:46 PM
2

To clarify, I am not saying that the ends justify the means. I am saying that pretty much everyone prefers the means and the ends in this case. Most people have just been too brainwashed to admit this to themselves.
/r/MGTOW10/09/19 07:38 PM
2

I will chime in here; as a happily married man, I am often able to play devil's advocate. I would say that an LTR is possible, but I would be wary of taking on the legal obligations and having children if you make any money. Why not just have kids without getting married? I married for love (which is... a completely different concept to me now, lol) before I took the pill and we do not intend to have kids, plus she makes all the money. I would never get married again though. ​ I dont want my LTR…
/r/MGTOW06/09/19 09:06 PM
1

Haha, love? It seems quite funny to me post-pill as I don't even experience that emotion the same way anymore. Been together over ten years, married for five, and I do not regret it... yet. She still fucks me all the time, makes most of the money, and cooks; and we have great overlap in personality and taste in media. But I would never do it again or advise anyone else to knowing what I know now.
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 04:30 PM
2

But what stood out as valid is fear of public spaces due to being defenseless. That my fellow men is a legitimate issue for women. They don't know if the stranger they meet is a rapist or not, so they are legitimately scared most of the time. Not really. I don't know whether a stranger I meet is a mugger with a gun in their pocket or not, and yet I walk down the street without pissing my pants and shaking like a leaf everywhere I go. Also, what are the chances of a woman being raped, or injured …
/r/MGTOW14/06/19 03:29 PM
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This is the first post I've ever upvoted. Stay on topic, stay open-minded, and don't be pussies. Let's figure some more shit out and come up with better techniques by breaking each others' balls in a civilized fashion.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/19 08:29 PM
1

Not that women can't be duplicitous, because they obviously often are, but I think you are giving them too much credit for being self-aware. I don't think most of them 'pretend' to be monogamous, I think they really want to be monogamous - just with the awesomest dude ever. Hypergamy is ideally monogamous, they would simply trade up to a better guy to be monogamous with all the time. I don't think they pretend to have a low sex drive, they just want to fuck when they want to fuck and don't reall…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/19 04:58 PM
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This is a good post; I really prefer posts about theory and human nature at this point, since I think we've probably reached peak "how to" and further breakthroughs will require deeper understandings of male/female dynamics and new heuristics. I also feel like most people criticizing you in the comments are misunderstanding your points or how you are using some terms. It is important to point out that women's basic programming isn't really evil, it just seems that way because we are wired up wit…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/19 03:34 PM
3

My rule always was that I would do it as long as they would still put it in their mouths after.
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 09:10 PM
9

This is the right response. When you really internalize the pill you realize that they are just much more likely than men to be shallow garbage people who are caught up in superficial appearances and petty games. I don't look at women as objects, but as people with the potential to be well-rounded and awesome who were too distracted by culture and their emotions to achieve anywhere near their full potential. I mostly pity them these days.
/r/MGTOW06/06/19 06:31 PM
2

I have a theory that women have actually faced a lot of evolutionary pressure to become resource sinks: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/bo8xdk/mind_of_a_feather/ The post didn't get a lot of traction, but this perspective really explains a lot, IMO.
/r/MGTOW31/05/19 02:51 PM
5

These posts are spot on. I've always had a glib tongue, and being into comedy and thinking of friendly conversations as 'riffing' or 'doing a bit' is pretty much my default setting. Wait a beat, then try to make it punchy and clever. It is also good advice to avoid hot button issues unless you are intentionally trying to troll people or blow up a conversation. I like throwing grenades into the middle of a discussion because I find it amusing, but if you are trying to win friends or make sure eve…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/19 09:46 PM
4

I am happily married, and I was just over in that other pro-marriage post (since deleted) defending the idea that a man can stay happy and maintain control in a marriage. But I married before I took the pill, and I would never do it again, nor would I ever advise any other man to do it. There is simply no upside.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/19 12:17 PM
1

Haha, love? Funny to think about now because I don't even experience that emotion the same way anymore post-pill, but I married long before I came by this knowledge. But this post and your original comment that I replied to were not about arguments for or against getting married, they were about whether it is possible to stay happy and maintain control in a marriage.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/19 11:36 AM
1

If you didn't have money or want kids, she wouldn't have married you in the first place, ipso facto. And yet, here I sit, married. That's delusional, re-read the comment. There's a real possibility you could end up in a 400 sq ft studio apartment staring at 4 blank walls contemplating suicide because you miss your former life so much. This sub reports on the atrocities committed in family court every day, have you not been paying attention? I will never be in a studio apartment contemplating sui…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/19 11:31 AM
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Okay, I am going to play devil's advocate here. I am happily married like OP (been with this woman over 10 years, married less than 5), and although I would never do it again knowing what I know now, I do think you are making a lot of assumptions. If her power over you derives from her control over your kids and money, you can avoid giving her the power simply by not having those things. Try to find a woman who doesn't want kids and who doesn't mind being the main breadwinner. If I got a divorce…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 10:01 PM
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Thanks; I thought it was clever, but you never really know for sure. This is the third time I've gotten that response to a comment - but I'll try to actually post this one in a more fleshed out form later this week if I have time.
/r/TheRedPill22/05/19 10:09 PM
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A crummy dating scene for women is par for the getting-older course. Yet despite being aware of this, the author spent her 20s: falling over casual acquaintances ready to pick each other up at the first sign of a smile Instead of trying to build an actual relationship with someone. Now that she wants what a man can provide her more than ever, she resents the effort it takes to find a decent one, and even actively makes herself less attractive because she is lazy: Women in their thirties, especia…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/19 06:18 PM
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I was thinking about making a post similar to this, but using an analogy. One thing I find myself interested in as a man is understanding and exploiting systems. A hobby of mine related to this is board games. Now, all I do when I play these games is try to grasp the consequences of the rules such that I can play the game in a way to maximize my chance of winning. However, if I ever achieve my goal, I immediately lose interest in the game. This is because the interest lies not in understanding t…
/r/TheRedPill22/05/19 05:06 PM
1

Here is my best guess: reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/bo8xdk/mind_of_a_feather/
/r/MGTOW20/05/19 07:42 PM
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peacocking is not a PUA tatic Yes, it is. Take five seconds and search the net for "peacocking PUA" instead of talking out of your ass. it is a genetic trait present cross species and mainly related to reproduction or fighting over dominance No it isn't. What the heck are you even talking about? Outside of PUA, the only thing 'to peacock' means as a verb is to show off or display yourself. And regardless of which peacocking we are talking about, it has nothing to do with my post - I merely used …
/r/TheRedPill20/05/19 03:13 PM
1

Shit load of countries still go through war even today. So strength is faaar from being not needed. What does this have to do with whether or not muscles make you more likely to survive and/or reproduce? And how much do bigger muscles help in modern war anyway? Strength is still needed for certain things, yes. And as I said, it probably still even gives you a tiny survival advantage. But the idea that it is evolutionarily important in modern times (outside of pre-existing female preference) is p…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/19 10:16 PM
2

I could not find any references to "absolute queen syndrome", but I assume you are referring to "princess syndrome" which is basically the idea that women are spoiled in modern society which I wouldn't disagree with. I would also say that cultural exposure to the richest and most attractive people gives them an inflated sense of what they can expect, which further exacerbates the problem. But I would seriously question the idea that these cultural trends have had time to alter women's core natur…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/19 10:55 AM
2

The first sentence here is a summary of the process I described in the middle block of text in the original post. For the second sentence I will give some examples, starting with the traditional one of the peacock's tail. The reason that a big beautiful peacock tail signals fitness is that the male must be strong enough to have the excess resources to support building a tail, and the excess skill and strength to evade predators while dragging the cumbersome thing around. So the male pays a price…
/r/TheRedPill15/05/19 10:12 AM
1

What does this post have to do with jealousy? I mentioned it once in an offhand remark about possible effects on male traits and half the comments are about it. Also, what points am I making that are the result of modern society? I would argue that the way we organize ourselves socially in modern times gives less opportunity for these dynamics to operate than they did in the past. Much like how there is little direct evolutionary pressure for men to get big muscles now, but women still select fo…
/r/TheRedPill14/05/19 01:44 PM
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This comment has absolutely nothing to do with my post. You are referring to a single paragraph where I make the claim that our tendency as men to feel jealousy and possessiveness evolved in part because of the theory I am presenting here. Obviously you shouldn't let these emotions (or any others) rule you, but this post has fuck all to do with advice - as I mentioned in the disclaimer. So I'm not sure why you are presenting advice about how to swallow the pill, how to act alpha, how to squelch …
/r/TheRedPill14/05/19 01:38 PM
1

Tech just makes it easier. Although, I actually just made a post today on TRP that argues in part that they have been becoming more greedy over time due to evolutionary pressure.
/r/MGTOW14/05/19 05:11 AM
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This is not really related to peacocking as a PUA tactic, if that is what you are referring to. Wearing some flash does not get the visceral reaction that dread and preselection achieve. I am suggesting a deeper evolutionary relationship that is self-reinforcing over long time scales.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/19 01:53 AM
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This is a good post, and a concept that is very important. I am not sure why people are jumping on you because of your "war'" analogy. It is a figurative war, one that can be waged with playfulness as a weapon even - but that does not mean it isn't a conflict. It's like how if I have a friendly debate with someone I can "attack their position" or "shoot down their arguments", but still be smiling and jovial the entire time. This kind of social conflict/war doesn't have to be some kind of defensi…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/19 04:31 PM
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Word. This is just free will vs. determinism, though. I assume free will exists to a certain extent because of my internal experience deciding things, but this could be cognitive smoke and mirrors hiding an inevitable process and reaction. Regardless, I choose to draw this line at behavioral choices. In all but the most basic reflexes, one has to cognitively choose their behavior (or experiences the illusion of this), so I try to judge people based on what they do. Perhaps they are psychological…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 08:02 PM
4

How much mental energy did I expend over the course of my life to try to rise above this inclination in myself? Learning to be a good person entails actively trying to not be shallow because you realize that it is shitty to treat people differently because of superficial characteristics beyond their control. Before the pill, I thought that all thinking people who weren't assholes felt this way. As you say, not only are women not trying to fight this instinct in themselves - but to a large extent…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 07:35 PM
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This is mostly true, yes. But there are some unusual circumstances in my case, so I don't think you should read anything into my particular experience. The main thing is that I was pretty alpha before I even took the pill, so my wife didn't have to deal with a Jekyll and Hyde thing to a huge extent. I am more sarcastic and tease more (But I was already merciless, now I am insufferable), I am more even tempered, and I lift, but I don't think much else about my outward personality has changed in a…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 07:15 PM
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I am not sure what it was exactly before lifting; I have active hobbies so I was at least pretty trim and fit at the time I started, maybe 180 lbs? I weighed myself a minute ago just for you, and am around 190. Just over 6' tall. I am also lucky enough to have an attractive face. I wouldn't say I am ripped. My arms and pecs look great in a tight t-shirt, although my abs are ghostly (but would probably break through if I stopped bulking). Still, my stomach looks flat and good enough in a shirt th…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 06:50 PM
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I was skeptical at first, as I am about everything. I have always been able to attract women pretty well, but did not understand why exactly. I do now. Not only did taking the pill explain about a thousand incidents with women in my past (I am still remembering things sometimes and internally going "Ohhhhhhh, that's what she was on about"), but being red pill aware and lifting weights the past few months has driven the point home so much that it is almost scary. As I said, I've always gotten att…
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 10:31 AM
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The thing that helped me not buy more smokes when I was trying to quit was feeling like a sucker. Make yourself really think about how you are taking the money that you have already sold a part of your life to earn, and giving it to unscrupulous fucks for the privilege of being poisoned. The idea of being that much of a sap was enough to keep me from buying until I could slowly quit bumming them from friends. ​ And make no mistake, it is killing you. I bought a couple of packs for the first time…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/19 03:37 PM
3

Why is this sub about how to best survive in the jungle filled with posts about snakes, pumas, and quicksand? ​ Because that shit will kill you.
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 10:23 PM
1

Why is it disrespectful for you to appreciate beauty in your wife's presence? You do not control her emotions, and if she becomes insecure or upset because you look at women, that is because she is jumping to conclusions about your intent - which actually is disrespectful, unlike your behavior. You're a man and you enjoy looking at pretty girls, so look at pretty girls if you want. ​ I am also married, by the way, and if you are worried about making sure your wife doesn't feel insecure or upset …
/r/MGTOW16/04/19 06:16 PM
13

Is this hard? Literally every woman I've ever been with long enough to explore this has been into it. Even the ones I've only been with once/briefly loved being spanked, held down by the throat, pushed against walls, having their head pushed down roughly so my cock would bottom out against the backs of their mouths, etc. I am sitting here unable to think of even one counterexample from my personal experience...
/r/TheRedPill05/04/19 05:24 PM
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I've been married to the same woman since before I found the pill. I literally go with her to the doctor and watch her have her IUD inserted every time (even before TRP, lol, I've always been paranoid about what women are after). My previous relationships have all been with women who at least claimed they didn't want kids and would abort in an emergency, although I was more trusting about birth control in the past. I was always more worried about STDs; make sure she gets tested for them, but eve…
/r/TheRedPill25/03/19 06:50 PM
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I've basically been running lady game my entire life. Letting them earn the money while I just move in and bone the shit out of them for years. Way less effort for the sex, and you don't have to work either. One benefit you skipped - it is safer and easier to fuck bareback in a committed relationship. I hate condoms so much.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/19 03:43 PM
1

My wife works and I take care of house chores, which most of the time means I do whatever I want. I don't work (as I said in this quote from my original comment, you dumbass) so she can't use me as an ATM because I intentionally don't have shit. I don't have a house, or a car, or any income that she could get alimony from. She makes the money, and when she gets home from work she cooks me dinner and sucks my cock. She'd be paying me alimony if we divorced, lol. It is possible she has cheated on …
/r/MGTOW25/03/19 03:33 PM
4

"My morning[s] are no worse tha[n] they once were when I showered warm." "If you were to shower cold for a year and were then to take a warm show[er] it would feel Amazing." Pick one. How could it feel amazing if a cold shower is no worse? Does a cold shower feel amazing if you go a year taking all warm showers?
/r/TheRedPill24/03/19 12:57 PM
7

Yes, I understand the rationale for it, I just don't think it makes sense. Frame != teaching yourself to be uncomfortable for no reason. Frame is knowing what's what and not letting fools push you around. Lifting is being uncomfortable for a reason (fitness), working is being uncomfortable for a reason (money), talking to women is being uncomfortable for a reason (pussy). Taking a cold shower everyday is being uncomfortable for no reason other than to get used to being uncomfortable. Why do I wa…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/19 12:52 PM
1

A woman can lie and take my freedom even if I never touched her. I have no desire to live as a hermit and never interact with society again, which is what I would have to do to insulate myself from the danger of false accusations. I would actually argue that my marriage helps protect me in this respect; we have history and the presumption of consent. Also, the fact that we are known and loved by each others' family and friends would make a false claim like this much harder to swallow for all of …
/r/MGTOW24/03/19 12:35 PM
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I don't get the whole cold shower thing, seriously. Do you wake up and give yourself a sack tap everyday to become indifferent in the face of pain? What is the point of torturing yourself for zero gain? I know I can handle a cold shower already, I don't have to prove this to myself by making every morning for the rest of my life worse than it could be. It's like telling people to learn how to live on a budget by throwing some money away every morning when they wake up.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/19 12:12 PM
3

"Even at 3mos old, girls care significantly more about the other party's feelings. The purpose of this study is "who is higher in empathy"? The results are very clear." I think it is pretty funny that this is how these results are interpreted. Which behavior is actually higher empathy? Avoiding the discomfort of confrontation by glossing over the problems with the lemonade, thus dooming the confederate to the embarrassment of serving swill to her friends later. Dealing with the small awkwardness…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 03:57 PM
1

English has no distinction (that I can find) between long-term and short-term happiness. So, people conflate the two. He said, making the distinction using English. Language doesn't constrain thought; English speakers are obviously perfectly capable of understanding the difference between these concepts and do so all the time.
/r/TheRedPill15/02/19 03:01 PM
2

Yeah, and also, what does her face do? Why do we care what they look like... we should only be interested in how small, wet, and toothless their mouths are, right?
/r/MGTOW14/02/19 05:30 PM
4

Well, I wouldn't get married again knowing what I know now, but... My wife works and I take care of house chores, which most of the time means I do whatever I want. We are fucking even more since I took the pill, almost whenever I want she will do whatever I want. She does all the cooking. I don't know if it will last forever, of course, but I can divorce painlessly. I have nothing, and neither of us wants kids - I literally go with her to the doctor and watch her get her IUD inserted, lol. I re…
/r/MGTOW14/02/19 04:48 PM
1

Dude, I know this is a cliche, but you can only play the hand you are holding. No one gets to choose. Are you bitter that you aren't superhuman? Are you annoyed that you'll never get to be a herd of cows? Are you ecstatic that you aren't a worm or a retarded cripple? You just are what you are man, and the past is past. Unless you have a time machine there is literally no reason to concern yourself with it other than learning lessons from it that you can actually apply to your current situation. …
/r/MGTOW01/02/19 10:20 PM
1

I can also see your point, but you could make this point about any attempt to change one's habits and personality to get along better in the world. Any change you make to yourself starts with you being conscious of how you've been acting, and then monitoring yourself consciously until the change becomes an unconscious part of you. That's just how learning works. If you want more pussy, why not change yourself to increase your chances? If you want better credit, why not start trying to pay your b…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 08:56 PM
7

I can't speak for the whole sub (and I am relatively new to TRP also), but this: It just seems like they are shoe-horning themselves into acting and thinking in a way that women want them to. They seem to play it off like they are in control and are being 'Alpha.' I disagree. The idea of trying to fundamentally change who and how you are with the singular goal of winning over women seems very simpy to me. Is some bullshit. TRP didn't give me a plan for fundamentally changing who I am to score ch…
/r/MGTOW30/01/19 08:16 PM
1

I agree, this is essentially the point I was making in the post: ASMR is just another niche internet market being dominated by pretty lady videos. What I am commenting on is the idea that this fact somehow means ASMR is itself a sexual or femininity driven sensation, which is an assumption I see made over and over again by people who do not experience it. But everything is pretty lady videos, for reasons we are well aware of - so why do people make this assumption? The fact that ASMR exists, and…
/r/TheRedPill18/01/19 09:12 PM
1

Well, I can get it from massages, and sexual feelings do not destroy it for me. When I used to masturbate I would often include ASMR, although I would look for ASMRy porn rather than porny ASMR. These days I only use it to go to sleep, and enjoy it when it happens randomly.
/r/TheRedPill18/01/19 08:36 PM
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If there is any greater testament to the death of femininity- and the dire need for more genuine femininity in the world- look no further than the rise of YouTube ASMR- virtual femininity like pornography is virtual sex. I agree with most of what you say here, but your conception of ASMR is way off. As someone who experiences the sensation very strongly, I can tell you that ASMR has nothing to do with femininity, gender, or sex. I can get ASMR from pretty ladies, or from ugly men like Bob Ross a…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/19 04:23 PM
1

I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say here. I am not suggesting that the man should attempt to avoid the blame; indeed, I agree with you that doing so is usually a bad idea, and may even be impossible as far as she is concerned. I was just trying to get across the idea that interpreting women's behavior through the schema 'she is chiefly concerned with avoiding all the blame' can also offer some insight into the dynamics of an LTR.
/r/TheRedPill08/01/19 05:20 PM
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Despite the sometimes kludgy writing, I think this post is getting at something that is quite insightful. A lot of red pill wisdom can simply be boiled down to women having a huge aversion to taking the blame for things. Or perhaps it is more useful to think of it this way - women are turned on by not having to exercise their own agency, and off by having to. It is like her mind is programmed to avoid responsibility at all costs, and resent the source of any amount of it, because having any degr…
/r/TheRedPill08/01/19 12:01 AM
4

It is interesting to me that you made this analogy, as disillusionment over Santa Claus is a part of what led me to become semi-RPed when I was a child. In the part of my first post that explains my background I say: I thought a long time that night but did not remember my train of thought, or even really anything after I left the stairs, until TRP. The train of thought I referred to here prominently included Santa. A short time before the events described, I had learned from my cousins that San…
/r/TheRedPill21/12/18 05:11 PM
23

I know at least 17 let him piss on them. Were you doing an exit poll? This story smacks of bullshit. ​
/r/TheRedPill19/12/18 10:40 PM
15

You are a custom homebrew install of outdated survival software. You are a self-perpetuating skein of wave patterns. You are not your thoughts, beliefs, or behavioral responses. These can and should be altered over the course of your life. If you were these things there would be no such thing as learning, training, changing your mind, being mistaken or misunderstood, etc. You are not the stuff of which you are made. You grow and change forms, and all the atoms in your body can be and are replace…
/r/MarriedRedPill13/12/18 07:01 PM
2

One of the first things that occurred to me about my past when I took the pill a couple months ago was that I had had opportunities to bang at least two of my educators when younger but had not realized it. Given my experience with academic flirting, I would guess that things would not be as one-sided as this just-so story indicates, as in hindsight I can see certain behaviors of mine that contributed to the situation. For instance, part of the way I was rebellious in school was by intentionally…
/r/TheRedPill10/12/18 06:57 PM
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So it strikes me as funny when she thinks that she can have equal access to something that she doesn't even help to make. A good example is the credit card I give her. It's for emergencies, or to go grocery shopping with. And yet I find every month that she's bought makeup or clothes and other frivolous shit. Yeah, I find it hilarious when people steal from me too. Take the fucking credit card away; get your own damn groceries if you have to. What does she do for you that makes you want to stay …
/r/askTRP15/11/18 06:51 PM
1

Where do I mention any standards I have for anything in this post? I don't even reference "beta" or BP - what the hell are you talking about?
/r/TheRedPill09/11/18 05:29 PM
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I don't know if I would say that my libido is down, and I have no idea what my testosterone levels are. I would say that my mind doesn't default to sex the way it used to... like I don't find myself fantasizing as much, but if a woman puts the idea in my head I'm as ready to go as ever. When I first wrote this (around October 11) I was new to TRP and was jacked up and horny all the time I think partly because I was noticing all the IOIs from the women around me for the first time. I wanted to fu…
/r/TheRedPill08/11/18 09:52 PM
1

Read Popper, Pinker, Dawkins. For fiction try 'Confederacy of Dunces' or 'The Thought Gang'.
/r/askTRP21/10/18 07:48 PM
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