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You didn't say what the third way to respond to a snarky comment is
/r/seduction10/04/20 11:39 PM
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/r/malefashionadvice Also, you can find blogs or instagrams that you think look good and emulate your favorite looks. The most important thing is finding clothes that fit properly.
/r/seduction29/08/19 08:04 PM
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Have you seen his video on the pick-up community? It might change your opinion of him
/r/seduction28/07/19 01:40 AM
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I assuming you mean ‘complimentary colors’ which is good general advice. ‘Matching colors’ i.e. shirt, belt and shoes the exact same color, is a very specific look that imho, usually makes you look like you’re putting a lot of effort into your style but have no idea what to do so you match your colors and end up looking like a cartoon character.
/r/seduction22/07/19 05:28 PM
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In other words, if you didn’t need advice you wouldn’t be looking for advice? Mind -> Blown
/r/seduction03/05/19 11:53 PM
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That wasn’t in a bar. Some guys might still get weirded out if that happened in a bar but most guys would go with it, because the environment is already geared towards drunken hookups.
/r/seduction08/04/19 08:05 PM
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I’m assuming that’s her not responding, not the guys. If it was the other way around, that would mean she’s replying to 100% of the guys that message her, which I find hard to believe.
/r/seduction08/04/19 01:36 AM
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The number one complaint I've heard from women that I've met off tinder is that all the guys they match with want to meet so quickly. It seems like you really have to take it on a case by case basis. Some might get bored or distracted if you don't ask them out soon enough and others will get turned off if you do because it seems needy and they don't "know you" well enough.
/r/seduction26/01/19 07:28 PM
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Idk man, real world convo doesn't always translate into text. I use a lot of dry humor and teasing in real life that comes across as strange or insulting if it's in text and not delivered with a wry smile.
/r/seduction24/01/19 04:41 PM
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21 and 29. Attractive but nothing mind blowing. Not sure why you're focusing on the boyfriend thing. Girls might say they want their first time to be with a boyfriend. But when it comes down to it, if they see having sex with a particular guy as a win for them, they're gonna do it, boyfriend or not.
/r/seduction21/01/19 07:48 PM
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Both of them I had met briefly in a bar and exchanged numbers then later met for a date. I believe they both conciously made a decision that they were going to have sex with me on the date if it led to that. One girl even asked if we could go back to my apartment. They were shy, wanted to lose their virginity, and waiting for a guy they were attracted to to make it happen for them.
/r/seduction21/01/19 04:52 PM
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While you want to tailor your approach to the type of girl, I wouldn't limit your expectations based on the type of girl. Girls like that are often sex deprived and have been waiting for a cool guy with a strong frame to lead the interaction towards sex. Shy Asian girls are also my thing. Sex on the first date usually happens, and I've even taken the virginity of two on the first date. Just escalate and calibrate like you would with any other girl.
/r/seduction20/01/19 10:33 PM
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Traveling to another country where you don't know anyone
/r/seduction12/12/18 11:21 PM
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What an inconvenience for her.
/r/seduction12/12/18 08:30 PM
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I've done this. Still had mad AA. Might work for some guys but it's not a magic pil.
/r/seduction12/12/18 03:17 AM
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You shouldn't care about what she thinks now. She turned you down, move on to the next. Also, dinner as a first date is intense and a big commitment, for her and you. Try for something lighter next time like coffee or drinks. I also wouldn't give ultimatums in an invitation like "get back to me by a particular time." It puts a lot of pressure on her and makes it sound like it's a big deal to you. Much better to say "I'm doing (some fun thing) on Tuesday, you should join me." Chalk it up as a lea…
/r/seduction10/12/18 05:08 PM
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In my experience they have been just as hot or hotter than tinder.
/r/seduction19/11/18 06:55 AM
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The reason it works is because it forces your profile to the top of her stack. If you just swipe right normally your profile will quickly get buried under all the guys that have swiped right on her after you. Girls don't go through hundreds of profiles in a day, they'll match with 10 to 20 guys and be done. So the only way she is gonna see your profile if you 'normal' swiped right is if she gets on the app right after you swiped.
/r/seduction19/11/18 06:53 AM
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she seemed so perfect in regards of grades and looks. Are you an anime character?
/r/seduction07/11/18 11:30 AM
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Is this what this sub has become?
/r/seduction06/11/18 12:53 PM
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There needs to be benifits to a fwb. Sounds like she'd be open to getting back in a relationship, but if she wanted no strings attached sex that would have happened when you made your move.
/r/seduction23/09/18 05:59 PM
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More like top 10%. And it's not that hard to get there if you put in some effort. There's numerous guides out there for improving your profile.
/r/seduction23/09/18 05:42 PM
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You have an examples of subtle screening questions? I always try to flip it around so I'm the one being pursued but sometimes it's hard to reframe the convo.
/r/seduction23/09/18 05:39 PM
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No need to reinforce that frame. Guys can be a prize on tinder too.
/r/seduction12/09/18 02:20 AM
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The video made it seem like the women on tinder are damsels in distress waiting for a Prince Charming to come rescue them. That's not an accurate depiction since women will "next" guys for offenses much more minor than wanting a quick fuck. Not saying women are bitches, they're just acting according to their position in the market the same as men are. When they've got an endless stream of suitors theyre going be very selective.
/r/seduction06/09/18 12:17 AM
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He makes it seem as though women are just waiting to have a meaningful conversation and have a guy ask them out on a proper date. But speaking as one of those top 10% guys(on tinder at least) who does do that, women are just as dismissive and ready to move on to the next guy in their queue. Women will ghost on a convo just as quickly as men with even the slightest issue e.g. he's not putting in enough effort, he's putting in too much effort, he asked a boring question, he asked her out too fast,…
/r/seduction05/09/18 09:20 PM
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I've hooked up with girls on tinder I'm sure I would not have slept with if I approached them irl. Two different avenues to the same destination my friend.
/r/seduction05/09/18 04:20 AM
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That's how peaks work
/r/seduction16/08/18 04:42 AM
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Women hardly go anywhere to meet men. By your logic we should only talk to women at bars on a Friday/Saturday night.
/r/seduction10/06/18 01:42 PM
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You really need to ask women. Men are notoriously bad at judging what photos women will find attractive. That being said, I would ditch the second one. If it takes more than a second to determine who you are in a photo then it's a bad photo.
/r/seduction12/04/18 12:43 AM
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Hinge put out a blog post that said the average number of messages exchanged before the conversation moved off the app was 15(total). If you're trying to move off app before that point the girl might feel uncomfortable and they'll just ghost you rather than saying no.
/r/seduction10/04/18 10:49 PM
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I used to consistently get matches on tinder a few years ago but now matches are almost non-existent. I'm using a nearly identical profile as back then too. The only differences I can see for my situation is that I'm older now, (30) but my target demographic hasn't changed (18-26). So maybe I've aged out of potential matches ranges. I've also moved from a medium sized city to a large city. You would think that would help but my matches have gone way down. I do extremely well on Hinge and OKC wit…
/r/seduction08/04/18 03:56 PM
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Some girls have a 'no sex on the first date' rule. Either that or she was on her period.
/r/seduction04/04/18 12:28 AM
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Don't text her. If she doesn't respond, You can hit her up a week later, act like nothing happend and invite her over for a bottle of wine/movie. But act like you're gonna be drinking it/ watching it anyway and you're inviting her to join. There's no point in nexting her if she still might be interested, you just don't want to seem needy.
/r/seduction02/04/18 10:56 PM
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6 since the new year. All new girls. Would have been 7 but I refused to have sex with one without using a condom. Most of them have been from online. One from a club. I don't cold approach as much as I'd like but I've got a solid dating profile and closing has become relatively straightforward if I can get them to meet. I've been living with my parents recently so I've had to figure out how to get girls to invite me back to their place. It's another hurdle to cross but surprisingly hasn't been t…
/r/seduction29/03/18 07:01 AM
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I've used Tantan with a lot of success. The great thing about it is it's very easy to get matches with really attractive girls. That being said, it is much more of a grind than using dating apps in other countries. At least half of the girls on there have no intention of ever actually meeting anyone in person. they just want to chat. You're gonna have to weed them out and that takes time. The ones that will meet you are still gonna need some convincing, especially since youre a foreigner. Im a w…
/r/seduction17/03/18 08:34 PM
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I don't see how saying that implies you've just freed up time in your schedule.
/r/seduction28/02/18 10:59 PM
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are you doing something cool later? I would not text a girl this. It makes you sound like you've got nothing going on and your asking if she's doing something fun so you can latch on.
/r/seduction28/02/18 02:29 PM
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Agreed. Looking presentable, e.g. fitness/fashion, should be seen as basic necessities for pickup. When I see people complain about 'good looking guys' doing approaches all I hear is: "it's always guys that put effort into their appearance doing approaches, why do I never see guys that put in zero effort doing approaches??" Guys that are good at this learned early on that making yourself look good goes a long way.
/r/seduction22/02/18 05:28 PM
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Eh, most girls under 25 never talk on the phone to anyone, it's all text. You might say that calling will 'set you apart' but a lot of girls will be anxious about talking and not answer. Also when you meet a girl online you have to start with texting. So you're gonna have to deal with it one way or another.
/r/seduction07/02/18 01:25 AM
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Attractive girls have more options and thus higher standards. You probably don't meet her standards to be considered attractive.
/r/seduction03/02/18 05:57 PM
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You don't need confirmation beforehand to go talk to her. Sack up and approach. You'll find out soon enough.
/r/seduction03/02/18 05:46 PM
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I don't recommend telling a girl (or anyone for that matter) that she looks sad, even if its true. People don't like it when someone points out they look like they're having a bad time, especially a random stranger.
/r/seduction16/01/18 04:53 AM
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Asking straight for her number in a club? Definitely not. Exchanging contacts is something you do after establishing a report with a girl. It's never something you should start with, especially not in a club.
/r/seduction14/01/18 07:07 AM
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I've had the same experience. I've had girls that I met online, that we're into me, ghost me after becoming facebook friends. Unless your Facebook page is curated to make you look good, ala a dating profile, your Facebook will probably make you look worse than what you've already presented to her. They're gonna see unflattering pics of you, photos of you with exes, you with other girls, or lack thereof. No good can come of it.
/r/seduction05/01/18 08:21 PM
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conundrum? I think you mean ultimatum.
/r/seduction04/01/18 08:20 AM
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TLDW Bars, Events, Coffee Shops, Yoga Classes
/r/seduction06/12/17 04:19 AM
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You might want to mention the city.
/r/seduction27/11/17 06:09 PM
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Why do you think it would be different than approaching non-sorority girls?
/r/seduction19/10/17 07:02 PM
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Don't. Just don't. I guarantee you it will not be worth it.
/r/seduction10/09/17 02:47 AM
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He kinda went off the deep end with that last point.
/r/seduction06/09/17 10:15 PM
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The top middle image, with hands at her waist, is NOT confident body language. It's defensive body language. People will automatically go into this position when they feel threatened. It's similar to an arms crossed position but more aggressive. Using that stance will not make you appear confident, but insecure.
/r/seduction21/08/17 09:39 PM
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"Just be yourself!" Why do people upvote this trash. It's advice that sounds profound but is utterly worthless.
/r/seduction07/06/17 12:08 PM
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Craigslist
/r/seduction13/12/16 06:08 PM
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$600??? You can get some taken for way less. I found a girl that was trying to fill out her professional portfolio. 1 hour shoot for $50.
/r/seduction12/12/16 09:34 PM
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Seddit and the pick up community in general IS cynical about the traditional romantic view of dating that most people outside the community still hold.
/r/seduction05/12/16 12:14 AM
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Yeah, you're just wasting their time and leading them on. Nothing wrong with that right?
/r/seduction12/11/16 12:20 AM
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You know you can just hit 'save'
/r/seduction10/11/16 10:04 PM
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I've got a similar problem, I'm still looking for best way to deal way to deal with, but I haven't posted anything because I was afraid it would come across as humble bragging. I can tell you what's worked and what hasn't. I'm an airline pilot. I'm 29 but I look like I'm 24. Often when i tell girls what I do, they think I'm lying. A couple times it's even gotten to the point where they think I'm full of shit and want me to prove it to them, which is really annoying because I didn't even want to …
/r/seduction20/08/16 05:50 PM
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The word you are looking for is "desperation"
/r/seduction06/06/16 08:55 PM
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If you're not willing to improve why are you even on here
/r/seduction30/05/16 12:33 AM
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/u/Plascma is telling you to improve yourself and you'll be able to get laid without paying for it. Your response sounds like you think you don't need to improve because you already have all the qualities that make men attractive but women still aren't interested. Clearly that doesn't make any sense so you're coming across as delusional. Hence the down votes.
/r/seduction29/05/16 11:59 PM
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I think you can can see why your claim is hard to believe. If you really had all the qualities that women are attracted to you wouldn't have any issues with women in the first place. It comes across like youre not willing to accept any responsibility for your difficulty with dating.
/r/seduction29/05/16 11:25 PM
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There are attractive girls out there. But your profile better be exceptional if you want to match with them. OPs tip are good, but it's 95% in your photos.
/r/seduction06/05/16 11:23 PM
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This will help
/r/seduction12/03/16 04:44 PM
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You do that ten or twenty times in a row?
/r/seduction22/02/16 01:12 AM
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You're afraid of showing interest because it opens you up to rejection. When you have more success you'll gain confidence and that fear will go away. Until then you'll have to embrace that fact that rejection is part of the game.
/r/seduction20/02/16 07:27 PM
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At parties people just care about how fun you are. Your connection to the girl hosting won't be that important if you are adding value to the party. So if you want to just go to have fun, I say go for it. But if you goal is to lay the girl that invited you, going to her party is a terrible way to do it. There will be way to many distractions/judgement from her friends/competition that will make it very difficult. For example, do you think you will be able to isolate her at a party she is hosting…
/r/seduction09/02/16 07:23 PM
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I'm curious what you actually do when you meet if you're not doing any date like things. In my experience girls will start to feel "used" after a couple times if you just keep inviting them over at night to bang.
/r/seduction09/02/16 01:07 AM
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I absolutely agree. But telling someone to just do what they want is not very useful advice.
/r/seduction09/02/16 01:03 AM
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Of course, because you want to hook up with her. Unfortunately most people will interpret it as you having nothing better to do on a Friday night than go to a party where you don't know anyone and were invited to by a girl you barely know. Its not the best signal to send.
/r/seduction08/02/16 08:06 PM
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Why are straight girls groping you if you're a woman?
/r/seduction31/01/16 08:00 PM
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I'm surprised that you've gotten good results with super like. Have you actually met many girls that you super liked? It seems like Super Like increases your chances of matching, but the girls are making their decision of whether they would actually meet you in real life based on your profile. So you can end up with girls that you matched with but will never meet, because they were "just giving you a shot" based on the Super Like even though they wouldn't be interested otherwise. Of course there…
/r/seduction31/01/16 04:27 PM
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there wasn't really a need to hold hands or kiss from either sides. This is how you become friends with a girl. If you want something sexual with her you need to show that, the sooner the better. That means physical contact and verbally stating your intent. You should really be doing this from the start. If you've already gone on two dates and you haven't done anything sexual she is going to assume you are a shy beta and will not see you sexually. It's hard to change from a friend vibe to a sexu…
/r/seduction10/01/16 08:32 PM
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You will need to manage their expectations about how much they will be seeing you. I've found that seeing a girl every other week is about the most you can stretch it and still maintain a sexual relationship. If it's less often than that they will start to look for someone else. Texting and phone conversations help maintain a connection with out actually taking that much of your time.
/r/seduction11/12/15 04:23 PM
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have an update?
/r/seduction06/12/15 03:21 AM
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I switched it for a picture taken at a work baseball game surrounded by 4-5 attractive girls and 2 other dudes. This is a terrible first picture. No girl wants to try to figure out which one is you out of the picture. It needs to be obvious who you are, at least in the first picture. Ideally it should be only you, but having 2-3 other women in the picture is acceptable, assuming you look platonic. Do not have multiple men in the first picture.
/r/seduction18/11/15 08:17 PM
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Honestly, unless you are extremely outgoing and confident I would absolutely avoid a scenario like this. You don't really know the girl that well and will have to explain that to her friends and win them over in spite of that. It doesn't sound like you will be her "date" so you will be expected to work the room on your own, without a solid introduction. And since your connection isn't that strong it will appear that you don't have any of your own friends to hang out on a Friday night. Not a good…
/r/seduction06/11/15 10:33 PM
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To be honest, you should not be analyzing this in the first place. There could be a hundred reasons why she said that. You are better off assuming attraction with her while pursuing other options at the same time.
/r/seduction25/10/15 11:55 PM
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It does depend on the situation. If she has other guys pursuing her that she thinks are equally or more attractive than you, she will forget about you pretty fast. But if you are the best prospect she has had in a while she won't soon forget you. Not much different than guys honestly. You probably thought about the last 10 that gave you an IOI for weeks after. But how long did you think about that 5 that did the same?
/r/seduction25/10/15 11:42 PM
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Its very difficult to build attraction through text. A generic text is unlikely to work in that regard. If you can't think of anything with call-back humor I wouldn't text anything. Just wait to set up a meet when its appropriate. If she likes you she will still be happy to see a text from you after a week of silence (maybe even more so than if you texted her during that time). If she doesn't like you a witty text is unlikely to change that.
/r/seduction25/10/15 10:54 PM
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If I can't think of something witty, which is usually the case, I just text them to set up a time to meet. You already know the girl so you shouldn't need to warm her up to the idea via text. Using text as a conversation is usually just setting yourself up for failure. Its really had to build attraction and very easy to say something that is off putting. I usually just go with "Hey, i'm going to (do something/grab a drink somewhere). Come join me." Any callback humor or reference to something yo…
/r/seduction25/10/15 10:43 PM
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I would absolutely not text that to a girl.
/r/seduction25/10/15 10:31 PM
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I find it easy to be easy to not be boring but I find it hard to convince the girl that I'm "normal" at the same time as I'm saying something unusual. It seems like I can say something boring and be normal or say something out of the ordinary and appear um, "not normal." Any advice on what kind of things that you say that are intriguing but not so out there? It seems like I have to choose one or the other, especially when her profile doesn't leave much to go off of.
/r/seduction08/08/15 01:27 AM
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Mixed signals usually indicate mixed feelings.
/r/seduction23/04/15 11:55 PM
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What kind of fucked up high school has a vote on who would be "least likely to ever get a girlfriend?"
/r/seduction16/04/15 06:38 AM
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Sorry if I didn't explain myself well. My intention wasn't to say "this is how it should go." If you don't succeed that probably means she wasn't convinced, not that you never had a chance. I wouldn't treat these girls any differently than girls that are okay with going on a clearly "romantic date." I would treat everyone as an opportunity to better myself even if they don't work out. It doesn't always work out, but it that one case it did for me. I wanted to show you that just because a girl sa…
/r/seduction18/02/15 04:38 AM
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This happens to me occasionally. If you've made you're intentions clear (that you want a sexual relationship), and she still wants to hang out with you, she is giving you another opportunity to make it work but she isn't sure about you yet. Girls will play the platonic relationship card so that they can manage expectations. If you guys hang out and you can't demonstrate you're a sex worthy guy, it gives her an easy out and she can reject your advances without any guilt. Same thing happened to me…
/r/seduction17/02/15 06:36 PM
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