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If that’s truly the case, then it’s up to that man to create a life for himself that gets him sex. No one’s going to buy into this being a need when a lack of it doesn’t kill, but just turns those men into angry, bitter losers who bitch about it on the internet. Ok well I guess it's alright to ban abortion then. If you don't want to have a baby, just don't have sex. Sex isn't important, after all, so why can't women stop? How people treat you is largely dependent on what you have to offer them. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:59 AM
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Sure. I could be fucking a 10/10 in an hour or three if I wanted. But I'd have to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:56 AM
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Market forces prevent most men from being secure in their relationship as we know we are extremely replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:35 AM
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No one was talking about relationships. Casual sex is the true measurement of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:05 AM
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Working out does not make you taller, unfortunately, and height is a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:01 AM
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Could you please try reading my post again? Sex is not all that matters. However: Sex is important for mental health, especially as a man. How people treat you is largely dependent upon your physical appearance. There is a reason tall people statistically are more successful in their careers, for example. Being sexually unattractive means that you do not have access to non-paid sex and people treat you badly. Why would that not result in mental health problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:01 AM
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The market requires it. Most men have zero to no romantic options, so, it is tolerate it or be alone. It does not excuse the behavior of women, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 03:47 AM
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Men do not have to villify women when posts like this do it perfectly well already.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:39 AM
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Either way, it is extremely unlikely. Fortunately, I do not try to find women as it is largely a waste of time for someone who is not the top percentile of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:17 AM
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Bro just find a one out of a million woman that doesn't care about it. Thanks for the advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:09 AM
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Just spend years working out, making yourself be social, getting a career, getting hobbies, taking 18 showers a day so people think you are worthy of their presence bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:04 AM
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It is normal for men, yes, since most men are sexually unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:03 AM
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Men continue to self-inflict their own problems the longer they try to put on the tough guy act because they’re scared that actually seeking help or changing their ways will be seen as effeminate by women Fixed that for you. Also, it's true. Also, it doesn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 02:02 AM
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Nope. All women benefit from the women are wonderful effect. Besides that, it is fairly easy for a woman to become reasonably sexually attractive. All she has to do is not eat too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 01:02 AM
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Have you ever been sexually harassed regularly just because you’re a female existing? No, I am a man so I just get non-sexually harassed or attacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:57 AM
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Are you seriously asking what is bad about having your actions judged negatively simply because of your appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:56 AM
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If you have the genetics required to be sexually attractive such as being 6 feet or taller, have a specific facial shape and all that, then yes, get jacked and be a dick. If not, then it is best to simply not try as it is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:55 AM
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If already in a partnership issues of attractiveness should be off the table. No? Ugly people (most men) are treated badly simply for being ugly, even outside of dating/sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:50 AM
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Ahh okay so the basis for all of your interactions with women revolves around sex. Yes, but that is not what I was saying. People treat sexually unattractive people, especially men, worse than they do sexually attractive people. They do this even outside of the dating/sexual realms, too. That is not likely to have a good effect on someone's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:46 AM
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Very correct. It's amazing how quickly most of life's problems go away when you can have non-transactional relationships with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:41 AM
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How does talking about something make a man more sexually attractive to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:38 AM
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Treatment for male mental illness generally doesn't work. It works for women because most of their problems are self-inflicted and/or in their own head. Therapy does not make a man more sexually attractive which is the root cause to most of a man's life problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:27 AM
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Apologies. I just saw that the quote was from someone else's comment. My bad. You are still not altruistic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 02:15 AM
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None. Which is my entire point. It is a result of success or failure, not the cause of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:14 AM
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I know what a belief is. Generally, low confidence comes from observation. For example, I am not confident that I can draw a very good picture. I know this because I have tried and failed many times without much improvement. My low confidence is based on evidence and is entirely reasonable. It works the other way around, too. I am very good at my job. I know this because other people tell me so, I continually get enormous salary increases every few years, and people tend to come to me in order t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 01:02 AM
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A belief or conviction that an outcome will be favorable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:54 AM
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who or what exactly gives you confidence? Success or mental illness. Why does a man feel more confident when he is dressed in an expensive suit? Because people respond better to someone when they look like they have money. and eating hi is success. ???? You can say it is only success if I have sex wjth her. The only way to judge your sexual attractiveness to women as a man is by your access to casual sex. If you can't get it, then you are not sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:43 AM
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Confidence without success is also known as delusion. So, no, confidence is provided by the market. If it rewards you, then you naturally become confident in what you do. If it does not, then why would you be confident?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:36 AM
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I could very easily see this turn into women complaining about men joining shared hobby groups to approach/harass tthem. You're too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:58 PM
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Your definition of a "nice guy" is: Nice guys do things because they want something in return and are weak and manipulative. In our hypothetical situation, you did something because you wanted something in return (IE: You feel good about yourself). You did not do it out of altruism. Thus, you are no different than these alleged "nice guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:57 PM
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You got a return. You did not do the act out of altruism. You did it because it makes you feel good. Have you considered not being manipulative with other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:50 PM
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Yes, and the vast majority of men have few to zero romantic and sexual options.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:49 PM
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Irrelevant. As I said before, being direct is socially unacceptable but hot people can get away with it. Beyond that, everyone is trying to manipulate everyone else. That is the reason autists have such difficulty with social interactions: no one is straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:15 PM
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And I bet you get a nice feeling from it, too. Thus, a return.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:14 PM
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never approach. Wrong. Almost all women approach men. The difference is they only approach the same small percentage of men that women find sexually attractive. If she isn't approaching you, she does not want you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:46 PM
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A weird thing happens when you finally get the balls and start doing that. Yes. If you're ugly: the police get involved. If you're hot: you get laid. That does not change that it is socially unacceptable to do so, it is just that hot people get leeway on that sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:24 PM
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Confidence is a result of success, not a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:21 PM
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Almost all relationships between men and women are because the man is paying in some way. VERY few men get access to women without payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:19 PM
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Except some are sneaky and go about it in manipulative way I think you mean everyone does that. For example, it is socially unacceptable for a man to tell a woman he is talking to her just because he wants to fuck her. It is also socially unacceptable for a woman to tell a man she married him for his money and stability. Everyone does this. Generally, it is socially unacceptable to be straightforward.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:17 PM
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Everyone does things because they want something in return. That is called a human interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:48 PM
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If you want to do it without paying, yes, you do. (I know because I'm objectively a 6 or 7, I've been told) and for me fucking with no strings attached is easy. If you can get casual sex easily, then no, you're not a 6 or a 7. Congratulations on being attractive. Most of us do not get that privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:41 AM
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Dating has nothing to do with sexual attraction. If you want to look at what women find sexually attractive, look at the men they have sex with immediately, no strings attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 09:40 AM
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It's called Tinder or social media like Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:59 PM
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You don’t need to be a 10/10 to have your basic needs met by a partner. Of course not. But you do need to be a 10/10 (or close to it) if you want to get those basic needs met without having to pay the woman in some way. That’s a given but then you factor in how subjective attraction is where 2 women can look at a guy who’s a 6/10 where 1 isn’t attracted to him and the other is you realize how extremely silly sulking over the idea of a handsome man is. Teehee women are so unique Becky likes tall,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:57 PM
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Because I have two eyes. Women have 100% control over their sexual urges. Haha no. Women have zero control of their sexual urges when Chad is around and if you had ever spent any time around an attractive man, you would realize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:18 AM
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Again, you have not been around attractive men before. Women are just as thirsty as men but only for a certain tiny percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 08:06 AM
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Sorry, if you think this you have never been around attractive men before.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 07:59 AM
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Yeah and we think that the person who asks the other out should be the one to pay which totally isn't a self-serving position, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:53 AM
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Since you are unable to do so, here is what I wrote: It's great that women have finally admitted that all they really care about in a man is how he looks while his personality doesn't mean anything whatsoever. As I said, it is great that you all have finally admitted what we knew already. Could you please tell me what in that statement is whining? Please do so or concede that you were incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:27 AM
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You made it personal to yourself when you whined that personality should get casual sex. Please cite where I wrote this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:19 AM
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Oh ok thanks for the update I will let this guy know that he was not murdered with impunity
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:19 AM
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Err, no. All I was simply pointing out is that men here (and everywhere else) have been gaslit for years by women saying "Oh no teehee we only care about your personality teehee." Again, please try rereading what I have written. If I wanted to insult you, well, you've done a great job of insulting yourself in this comment chain so why would I even bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:06 AM
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Again, I am not sure you've actually read anything I posted. All I said is that men actually DO fuck obese women, since you claimed that they do not. Additionally, you are the one trying to make this a personal argument because you clearly have no other arguments to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 12:00 AM
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I see you are desperately trying to argue why women should sleep with you. I see that you cannot read. You are the one who stated men don't fuck fat women when they clearly do. That's all I am saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:54 PM
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Yeah, and Bernie Madoff went to jail too, but rich people still tend to avoid punishments for their crimes even when there are exceptions. The point is that American cops will show up and are very likely to murder who they think is at fault (As well as any bystanders or animals, too, of course). That is almost certainly going to be the man. Such as that incident last year, I believe, where a guy was being attacked by his wife, who was wielding a knife. Cops show up and blow him away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:46 PM
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If so, and if you won't find an inherent disgust for him if that happens, then you are a very rare species. For most men, we've got to work since we're sexually repulsive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:45 PM
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Again, men fuck obese women. That is why I could have hundreds of dates set up tonight if I went, snapped some pictures of a local hambeast at Walmart, then put them up on Tinder. Will she get as many offers as a supermodel? Of course not. Will she get vastly more than all but the most attractive men? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:28 PM
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And you may want to check the data too on how American cops are shooting and what the deciding demographic factor is there. Yes, the deciding demographic is largely what gender you happen to be more than anything else. But my fave is this — if I make a lot more money than her she isn’t entitled to my emotional support. LOL can’t make this shit up y’all I thought no one is entitled to anything from anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:27 PM
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30% of wives now outearn their husbands So, most men outearn their wives. Thanks for agreeing with me! Mmkay. Any lawyers like /u/purplish_possum want to weigh in here? It has nothing to do with a lawyer. What it has to do with is the fact that: Women are believed to be victims by default. American cops are encouraged to shoot people for any or no reason whatsoever. But why should you expect emotional support from a partner while not offering the same? Because if she married me, it's almost cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:45 PM
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Except, again, a fat girl can go on Tinder and be fucking dudes within ten minutes, at most. I question your relationship with reality if you do not understand this basic fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:43 PM
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they’d fuck obese women, but they don’t Wat? Yes, they do. Are you an insane person?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:58 PM
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Libfem women prefer the kind of man who’s more likely to prefer educated, employed women. No, they don't. They prefer the same men all other women prefer. Imagine my shock when I, as a young, pretty liberal guy, brought up to expect that women would appreciate the fact that I didn't believe in gender roles (for them or myself), discovered that women certainly still expect you to adhere to those roles even if they are "progressive" or "liberal" themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:34 PM
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No he didn’t. He married in a state that says all of your assets from the day you marry are community property and owned 50/50 And since women do not marry men who do not make considerably more than them, he has far more to lose than she. Let's also not forget that women have the ability to have their husbands imprisoned or murdered by the state at any time simply by ringing up the local police department, if she does not like what he is doing. , and that men prefer to be the higher earner. I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:31 PM
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No, she might struggle to get Chad but, unfortunately for women, almost all women struggle to get Chad. She almost certainly has hundreds if not more suitors at any one time, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:28 PM
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It's great that women have finally admitted that all they really care about in a man is how he looks while his personality doesn't mean anything whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:42 PM
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You'd be wrong again! Men have even less leverage over a woman in marriage. After all, he's signed and, at least in the U.S., agreed to Uncle Sam that he has to provide for the woman no matter what she does. So, how would he ever enforce anything on her? Conversely, how could he ever avoid what she enforces on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:40 PM
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Yeah, they really do. A man who demonstrates weakness is not getting a woman, whether for a night or for a lifetime, for example. Women are very strict about the gender roles they enforce on men, which is why I find it hard to believe that women and feminists want to eliminate them, since they seem to keep those roles where they benefit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:35 PM
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Except it's not. For instance, almost all women prefer a man over six feet tall. That is not subjective. Women prefer stronger men. That is also not subjective. Women prefer men with more masculine facial features. Also not subjective. Attractiveness, at least male attractiveness to women is fairly uniform. You seem to be confusing women's sexual attraction versus their attraction to possible providers which is entirely different. Women do not want the provider. If they could get his stuff witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:34 PM
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It is a colloquial way of saying "the sort of guy who is attractive to almost all women" who certainly does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:30 PM
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No, women are largely exempted from the consequences of shirking gender roles. But the point is that most men do not have the option to explore like women do. Most men have to take the few opportunities they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:13 PM
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Women do not have to do that to find a man. Men do have to fit into gender roles to find a woman, unless they are in the top tier of physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:06 PM
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There’s without a doubt tons of other women who don’t believe in them Lol no. Especially if you aren't Chad. As someone whose original targeted dating demographic was liberal, well-educated women, they are exactly the same as conservative women when it comes to gender roles in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:04 PM
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Most, not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:03 PM
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The problem is that if you are a man, being raised to think that gender roles don't matter is not a good thing because women are absolutely going to impose gender roles on you, if you ever want to have any success with them. Gender roles are only dying for women. Men are still held to extremely strict roles, primarily by women. You have more of an open mind to explore and experiment to learn what you want and need in a partner as well as what you can provide a partner to meet their needs. This i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:31 PM
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Money, resources, etc. Most women don't get to marry Chad and since women find only Chad sexually attractive, it then follows that most women marry men they do not find sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:27 PM
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surely she also has sexual needs she needs to get taken care of. Yes, by the man she finds sexually attractive but was not able to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:09 PM
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things that have nothing to do with the real person underneath a pretty face Because, ultimately, none of those things matter to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:02 PM
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If at this point you do not realize that women find almost all men sexually unattractive despite it being proven over and over, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:59 PM
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I was reading a wonderful post on FDS lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:58 PM
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I would assume it's the same for women. Unfortunately, you would be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:23 AM
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I’m specifically talking about expectations of how someone behaves in response to your actions. And expecting someone to treat you with basic human dignity is, indeed, expecting them to behave in a certain way in response to your actions. I hope you never criticize someone for treating you badly. That would be awfully entitled of you. People do things altruistically No, they don't. Even things done altruistically are done because the person gets a sense of fulfillment out of it. The moment someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:29 AM
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If you expect people to behave with human decency, that is, again, entitlement. then that translates into actions being done with the motivation to solicit a response from the other person. And there is nothing wrong with that. No one does anything for 100% altruistic reasons and the constant gaslighting by women on the subject really explains a lot about the simmering rage that men have for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:21 AM
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If it's one-sided, you are still, then, entitled for expecting something in return, by your definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:20 AM
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Except many things which people have tried to improve are considerably worse for men than women, yet these initiatives are largely opposed by women. Thus, women want things to be considerably worse for men. That is not apathy. That's hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:44 AM
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So you are blaming victims for being exploited by others? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:43 AM
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No, they absolutely do hate men they do not find sexually attractive. To prove it, go and suggest somewhere that we as a society should do something to improve the lives of men as a group and see the reactions you get from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:40 PM
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Yes. They are just ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:05 PM
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People who do good things and accept bad treatment for it with no expectation of anything else are either dumb or saints. This is especially true since people largely see kindness in men as weakness and then will take advantage of said man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 09:57 PM
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To a woman, yes, average is repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:30 PM
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No, the 1/10 guy can get women but, like the 6/10, he'll have to pay and she'll never find him sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:30 PM
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Female attraction, for the most part, is a binary state. It does not matter if you are a 1/10 or a 6/10, because they find you equally repulsive. The only granularity their attraction has is once you've broken the Chad Barrier. Some Chads are more attractive than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:19 PM
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Women do not want men who make less money than them. You act like this is a choice for anyone but Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:18 PM
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So, why say that women don't need or want men's money when they clearly do?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 09:12 PM
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If women did not need men's money, why do women place so much importance on finding a man who has more money than themselves? Women may not need men's money, but they absolutely want it, hence what the previous person's comment was talking about. In the west, most couples combine their assets And guess who generally contributes more money to that because women largely will not consider men who make less money than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:36 PM
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No, they would just Chad chase even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:31 PM
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No, he should be able to maintain his Hollywood super hero movie physique naturally without having to really diet. That's what women look for and expect now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:29 PM
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Yet for some reason, a man's money is VERY important to women when it comes time to marry. I wonder why that is if they don't actually need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:25 PM
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PS: She's lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 07:39 AM
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Males
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 03:48 AM
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Sorry, but everything you have said just sounds like a case of sour grapes. "Chad pumped and dumped me and never called me back after I slept with him within ten minutes of meeting him. Well, I never wanted to commit to him in the first place!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:55 AM
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Then I ask you, again, if women do not consider them high value, why do women simp over them and give them what they want for free? Women generally don't GET to give them commitment, not that they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:49 AM
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No, they are high-value men because women give them what they value freely, which is not something that most other men get. This is because all women want the same men and thus are forced to compete with each other for their attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:36 AM
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Because what he wants from them happens to be the same as what they want from him. Generally, no. What they want from him is commitment (See West Elm Caleb). What he wants from them is sex. They give him what he wants immediately because they know they are infinitely replaceable if they do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:30 AM
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If Chad was abundant, then why would women offer him what he wants immediately upon meeting him, rather than making him work for it like they do other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:10 AM
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Except Chad can replace a woman far easier than she can replace him, thus, he is the rarer and more valuable party in the transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 02:05 AM
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So, ultimately, the misogyny isn't the problem. The problem is not being hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:51 AM
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No, I am applying how a market works. Women offer what these men value to them for free, thus, it implies that these men have something women value even more. If these men were not "high value" then they would be incels, not fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:45 AM
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Yes, they are. That's why women simp over them and offer them no-strings attached sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:25 AM
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Why can hot guys say tons of misogynistic stuff to women yet still have plenty of access to sex? Hmm, it might be because the misogyny isn't really what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 01:15 AM
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It's not going to work because the reason men want sex is not because society says they should but because they are men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:45 PM
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Then why are women so enthusiastic about getting used as a free hooker by a certain subset of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 09:45 PM
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Correct. Unfortunately, women are now the moral arbiter of our society. Since we consider women to be inherently moral creatures, it must be that anyone that female sexuality selects against is inherently immoral. Otherwise, it might suggest that a part of inherently moral creatures like women might be amoral which breaks the entire premise that people refuse to abandon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:05 AM
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The problem is that this just shifts the financial obligation to the tax payer Currently, yes. There is an easy way to fix that, however, by removing any sort of taxpayer benefits provided to single mothers or children. Problem solved. They are going to go hungry? Not my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 07:14 PM
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You made the claim that there are only two choices: the parent(s) pay or the taxpayer pays. That isn't true. As you said, we can let them starve. Isn't that the only moral choice? After all, how is it moral to force taxpayers to support the bad decisions of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:59 PM
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Someone's going to pay for that child. It's either the parents or the taxpayer. No? We could just say no one will pay for the child if the parent(s) cannot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 04:45 PM
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You did not answer my question. How does allowing men to opt out of parental obligations affect the bodily autonomy of women? In this example, women are allowed to keep or terminate a pregnancy as they desire. Please answer the question or concede the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:49 PM
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How does allowing men to opt out of parental obligations involve the bodily autonomy of women in any way, shape, or form? Also, how is forcing men to labor in order to pay women for children they did not want not violating the bodily autonomy of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:38 PM
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Women cannot get pregnant either, if they choose not to have sex. So, again, please answer the question: She chose to have unprotected sex, knowing that it could result in pregnancy, so, why should she be allowed to opt out? After all, you applied the same logic to men with this statement: men make their choice when they decide not to use a condom while having sex. let’s not act like men aren’t well aware of the risk of doing so; it is pretty much beat into every teenage boys head. As you said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:27 PM
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men don’t get rights pertaining to abortion because they will NEVER have an abortion! No one is asking for men to be allowed to have a biological abortion. Could you please read what I've written again? What I am asking is for men to be given the choice to opt out of the obligations of parenthood. Women have the choice to do this, even if the actual mechanics of such a thing are different because of biology. women bear the health and social burdens of pregnancy And men often bear the financial b…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 08:16 PM
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We're not talking about carrying a child. We're talking about choice. Please answer the question or concede that you are incorrect: Why should a woman that has made the choice to have unprotected sex, accepting those risks, be given methods to unilaterally opt-out of parenthood when a man cannot? Why are women allowed to choose whether to become an obligated parent after choosing to have unprotected sex when men are not? Why does the logic that women should get this choice only work for women an…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 07:40 PM
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If she didn't want a child, why did she accept the risk and make the choice to have unprotected sex? Why didn't she just not have sex if she did not want to become a parent? Since she made the voluntary choice to have sex, why should she be allowed to unilaterally opt out of the obligations of parenthood while men are not allowed to do the same? Ideally, neither side would have to be a parent if they did not want to. Currently, only men can be forced into involuntary parenthood. Since most peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:54 PM
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Yes, it is what I am saying. She had sex and therefore accepted the risk that she could become pregnant and have a child. Since you hold men to that logic, I assume you would not be self-serving and refuse to apply it to women as well. If she didn't want to get pregnant and become a mother, why did she have sex? Why not just make the choice to not have sex? Remember, all of this is her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 12:30 AM
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men make their choice when they decide not to use a condom while having sex. As do women. Thus, it follows that there is no need for women to be allowed to avoid the consequences of their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:10 PM
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