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They are the "Pretty Ones". They look pretty af, but they just won't mate. Check out the Mouse Utopia Experiment.
/r/seduction08/05/26 04:07 PM
6

You start low, then you work your way up. Most likely, you give them too high importance in your mind. Once you relax, and let it flow, you'll connect much better. But you gotta take them down from the pedestal. I can't help you with specifics, you gotta figure that out for yourself. Just know that it is possible.
/r/seduction31/03/26 11:11 AM
2

So many gay downvoters xD
/r/seduction24/03/26 01:20 PM
3

Not even true. Nordic countries are way down on the list for that particular disease. Gonorrhea on the other hand........
/r/seduction23/03/26 11:02 PM
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Step one: Go to a club, get blind drunk, make out with some girl and go home with her. Bonk her good. Next morning ask if she wants to grab her coffee. Then when you're at the coffee shop, get to know her. A great place to start is to ask her name. Congratz you're now "Dating in Sweden!"
/r/seduction23/03/26 07:32 PM
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"Just be yourself" isn't dating advice. It's an excuse so they can talk about something less depressing than your inability to attract women. There's a drop of truth in the advice however. Because you should never try to be someone you're not. That's where you run into a ton of trouble. But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to be your best self. Obviously, if you don't even try, then you probably don't deserve a woman at all. With that said, there are ways you can become more attractive, …
/r/seduction21/03/26 04:07 AM
1

Dance Teacher Most of your pupils will be women. And they'll all adore and look up to you. Especially if you're good. You'll get really fit as well. And your posture will be absolutely marvellous. Can be done part-time, while you have another main job.
/r/seduction17/03/26 11:16 AM
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Well, some of them had LTRs or were even married, but then wound up in a divorce, and now they're single again. Some like the single life cuz they get a new hot girl every week. Do you get a new hot girl every week?
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:45 AM
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Yes, and no. Having fun attracts them for the first few minutes. And then what? How do you get them to bed? That's where knowing actual seduction and pickup comes in handy.
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:43 AM
2

This is actually a plan!. Like, it skips over female psychology, and how to work on your own mind, but it does all the other things that you'd need to do anyway in order to become more attractive.
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:42 AM
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I honestly don't think you will learn a lot being on here. This place is infested with virgins and muggles whose only way of getting laid is to show their wallet. Once you learn seduction - actual seductions, and not what these clowns in here think it is (a lost art since the early 2010's) - then you will no longer need to be a paying provider to get laid. Btw. When I start writing seduction advice, it's so far outside most guys reality, that their knee jerk reaction is to downvote. I know stuff…
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:37 AM
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You also have to quit your job to start a company bro. Is that unstable and low value too?
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:32 AM
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Said the guy who knows zero about game. Game is about learning how to actually be a high value man. Though, sure, fake it 'till you make it. But as long as you're faking it, you won't have abundance. Being "high value" and "attractive" is a skill like any other, and it can be learned. And you don't even need a job to be high value, bro. It's a mindset not a number in your bank account.
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:30 AM
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Disregard all these idiots who don't know jack about women, and the only way they ever got pussy was to pay for it. Listen really closely: Only losers pay for sex. With that said, I'm sure you've got a good buffer, and that you can live for quite a while on your savings without running into issues. Working in tech is usually better paid than most other jobs, ask me how I know. I've had no real job for years. Yet I slay pussy. So it's completely fine, man. Chicks only care if you've got a job if …
/r/seduction25/11/25 01:23 AM
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You can also just try to kiss her. That'll rip you right out of the friend zone in one swift move. Most of the friend zone bs is a test to see if you've got the balls to escalate. And if you don't: Friendzone. If you do escalate, there are consequences: She can no longer be your friend. But she might become your gf. IMHO a risk worth taking. I can already hear the screeching. But I might lose her if I try to kiss her cry cry cry. Yes, that's the point. You don't want a friend. You want a gf. Now…
/r/seduction14/11/25 03:53 PM
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WRONG! There are several tells: My metaphors feel like they were assembled in a lab: “Emotion swirls like… synergistic data clouds.” Weirdly formal transitions: Furthermore, however, moreover… beep boop Over-confident on nonsense: The Bible was written by GPT-Zero—Commandment Edition™ I list things. In lists. Aheeem like this one. Because structure = safety. Sudden “human vibe quotes”: haha I’m totally not a language model bro 😬 Humans can still spot the cringe. (Most of the time.)
/r/seduction14/11/25 03:49 PM
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Me: Oh, cute girl! Ok, but she's a bit testy and... Hm, on second thought... Ok, this is too much hassle, I'm out. Oh, cute girl: Cute girl is cute. She is hot-and-cold: Oh eww... But maybe she's worth it? Hm, on second though: Checks if she's worth it. Ok, I'm out: Finds out she's got wildly different hobbies, lives far away, different politics (too different), different morality, she is vegan (the last one here is obviously a plus for other vegans, but a no for most meat eaters), or whatever o…
/r/seduction14/11/25 03:40 PM
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You already verbalized what works: Just be calm do your thing don't simp don't chase With that said, I love talking to women everywhere and I love flirting and making them laugh. But not because I'm particularly into them, just because it's fun and creates good (and perhaps a bit sexy) vibes. Yeah, confidence works. When she becomes "weak" or she wants to be alone with you - if you don't go for the kiss then, you're done. Find another. You get that one window that one time, and that's it. (In ve…
/r/seduction05/11/25 09:44 AM
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Dude, if you don't know how to do silent pulls, why are you giving advice about the topic? In fact the idea is so foreign to you that you don't even believe it's possible. When you then go onto describing reality as if your truth is the only truth, yeah, that pisses me off. Cuz I'm trying to open your mind here, but you're just hand-waving based on ZERO experience. That's not cool. In the PU community of old, we called guys like you KJ's.
/r/seduction10/07/25 06:10 PM
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Cuz you aren't getting laid bro. You're just getting lucky.
/r/seduction10/07/25 12:54 PM
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I did it the opposite way. I say let the lust overtake you. Embrace it (but obviously don't do something stupid). You can even tell her: "Girl what are you doing to me? You're turning me on!" You're just being honest. If she doesn't want it, then fine, tell her you respect, then go meet someone else. But most of the time, if there is sexual tension, it's mutual, and she's feeling it too - so move a little closer. That's where having balls comes in, cuz the first few times you experience it, you'…
/r/seduction10/07/25 04:04 AM
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Ah touché bro. Except it's emotions that gets me laid. No, not those. The other ones. The sexual tension. The kind that makes you want to bite your lip and move closer to her, while trying to restrain yourself. If you knew anything about seduction, you'd know what I'm talking about. Tell you what, ask a girl. She'll tell you that she's both disgusted and turned on by what I'm writing here. That's polarity bro. Learn it. It'll get you laid.
/r/seduction10/07/25 12:06 AM
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Thank you for telling me where I am. There was so much bad advice in here just now that I nearly forgot. So, please tell me, how much has this book gotten you laid, then? Cuz... To that end i's a pretty bad book bruh
/r/seduction10/07/25 12:03 AM
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ABC! A: Always B: Be C: Closing
/r/seduction09/07/25 11:04 PM
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This is actually a good list, but listen don't get stuck in comfort land. The reason you're texting her is to meet up with her. So get past comfort. Test the waters by mentioning food or whatever you can do together. If she likes that idea, she'll like meeting you too - so pitch that meet!
/r/seduction09/07/25 11:04 PM
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Don't use texting to have conversations bro. Use texting to plan meetups. Do minimal comfort just so you don't seem like a psychopath. Then pitch a meeting. Or presume a meeting. Or talk generally about something that she could meet up on, something social or otherwise, and test the waters. If she seems open to meeting you there, it's a green light. If not, dude, you're wasting your time. Tell her you've got shit to do, and that she should message you when she's ready to meet you. Obviously be s…
/r/seduction09/07/25 11:01 PM
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Don't move the goal post. Has HTWFAIP gotten you laid? I mean, you can be "speak to women" be nice and hope for the best. But there's no strategy in that. So, either you dared to do something that this book doesn't advice (that you actually try something that might get you rejected), or you just won the lottery bro.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:56 PM
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And you're a virgin bro. Worst of all, one who's got zero experience with escalation. You're now talking to a guy who's fucked more women than you've got on your Facebook friend list. Yet you're trying to teach me about reality? Bro...
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:54 PM
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None of those books will get you laid fast. They're about relationships not seduction.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:52 PM
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IMHO you don't need to verbalize sex when you can just be sexual. I mean, guys like TVA_Oslo / Teevster would perhaps disagree. He's a master of sex talk. But within pure seduction, getting close, touching, getting aroused with her (and not by her), are all great tools of seduction. Innuendos, yes, if they're natural and congruent. Not so much if you can't even talk with her in the first place. Just taking one step closer to her often trumps innuendo by 1000 gazillion percent either way. Stop ta…
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:49 PM
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Just by your post alone I can sense that you speak the truth. Can you please expand upon what actually worked for you? If not that book, what books or methods do you actually condone?
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:45 PM
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Any book? Like, is The Bible getting you laid bro? Like, I know the Qur'an will get you laid for sure, since it teaches you how to make women submit to you but idk man not sure about this.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:41 PM
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True, but the stuff in there still works, THe next poison is to seek out stuff like Mystery Method, Swinggcat's stuff, or many of the other guru's in the book. He'll even the antagonist of the book, Tyler Durden is freaking great. Read them all, and get laid in the process!
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:40 PM
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Absolutely 100% true. Except for the part about getting laid. That book will get you laid. Through nothing but gimmicks and fake openers! You'll feel super fake, but your dick will feel great!
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:38 PM
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Your local therapist. Just make sure he's not therapist of you!
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:37 PM
1

Did you get laid by reading How to Win Friends and Influence People???
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:36 PM
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It will help you get nice relationships, but it won't help you to get laid now, and fast. Can recommend the book for anyone who's not looking to get laid fast :) (it is genuinely a good book, but... if you wanna get laid fast, do something else)
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:35 PM
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Most of the old theories still work. Hell, Mystery Method still works! And now that most people have forgotten about it, it's safe to use again. Perhaps if you just avoid the "who lies more; men or women" routine. Yes, I mean it. use MM. It has many flaws (we all know about them), but it still works!
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:34 PM
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You're a pussy who don't dare to experiment. because you don't know how to get confident (learn bro!) You don't know what self amusement is (learn it!!!). You don't know where to look. That's who. Sorry for being so harsh with you, but I'm talking about field tested stuff here. If you don't believe it, then your loss bro. But dude, search up Tyler Durden and see the reports for yourself. He talks about it on YouTube too!
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:31 PM
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I met a lost Scottish dude at a fountain in Norway, surrounded by hot girls. I wondered what was up with him being surrounded by all those hot girls. So I went up and talked to him. But when I asked him where in Scotland he was from, he answered "I'm from Dublin." Turns out he was a Norwegian just faking a Scottish accent and telling the girls that he was "lost" while on vacation to get easy sex. The gall of some people! But it certainly looked like his game worked! Told me it would sometimes be…
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:27 PM
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Not true. Then you're just learning regular PU. If you want to go easy mode, go to a place where you're perceived as either high value, exotic, or both.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:23 PM
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Yes, it matters. If you are - your race - then it won't work. It only works if you are - other race. Moreover, this is only true if you believe in it. Be confident and suddenly race stops mattering, and instead it just means that you're an exciting and attractive dude-. Don't be a race. be exotic! Btw I learned this the hard way... Handsome Indian guy stole my gf... Sadface.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:20 PM
0

Just speak the language of love! If you research this, you will learn that you don't need to be able to speak with her to pull her. You can do silent kiss escalations and silent pulls to your hotel room (where she comes with you willingly and not bcos you coerce her obviously... Just had to be said, in case of idiots. no coercion, only attraction - and shhh no words!!) Silent kiss clise And silent pulls They're a thing! You can master these things! Read up, search. Tyler Durden would do these th…
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:17 PM
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In any country where: you look exotic look like you're on vacation have a chill and exploratory vibe where she knows that a fling with you is harmless cuz you won't be needy So really any country that isn't your own country, and especially if you tell her "omg I lost muh keys to my hotel and now I can't find my hotel anymore .. can I bunk at your place?" Field tested.
/r/seduction09/07/25 10:13 PM
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Your loss. He was obviously better than you.
/r/seduction03/07/25 11:02 PM
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I like this way of writing. It excudes confidence. Like me. I'm a confident guy. Also, I fully know that I'm the prize. That's why I can decide that today... Today every sentence is a new paragraph!
/r/seduction03/07/25 10:59 PM
1

You don't really have to be that hot if you're a murderer. I mean... Do you think Uncle Ted is hot?
/r/seduction28/06/25 10:11 PM
1

Why would you want to demonstrate that you can afford anything? The only thing I try to demonstrate is that I can fuck her brains out, and that if she isn't into that, then we're not a good match. If you meet a girl at a festival, she's more than happy to bang you in a tent, so why would she care that she's in a small apartment?
/r/seduction23/06/25 12:38 AM
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This dude's got actual game.
/r/seduction23/06/25 12:36 AM
1

This is why dating is hard whether you believe in true love or not, whether you take it fast or slow. Just be thankful that you're getting laid at all. Most men aren't. Either way, just keep doing what you're doing. Think about it as keeping up the momentum. At one point you'll meet someone who you really click with. And then, then it's game over bro. Then she's got you. But you've also got her. And everything will be fine. Until she gets pregnant. Then things get extra fine, if you manage to do…
/r/seduction20/06/25 11:11 PM
1

I generally date 20s and 30s. But I still only buy like a coffee or a glass of wine. But I always have a cold bottle of Champagne at home. I'll only buy her dinner if she's done something to deserve it.
/r/seduction06/06/25 09:59 PM
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Let’s say I’ve built solid social proof in the group, the girl’s comfortable, there’s light flirting — what’s your personal method for transitioning from that warm social vibe to getting a one-on-one meetup or something more intimate without it feeling like a weird switch?
/r/seduction24/05/25 02:40 PM
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In slow burn setups like this, when do you personally decide it's time to pivot from just vibing with the group to making a real move with the girl? Like, how do you know when it’s go-time — and what’s your actual move when that window opens?
/r/seduction24/05/25 02:39 PM
1

You said once the girl is isolated, the process is mostly the same as cold approach. But isolation isn’t always easy or socially clean in a group setting. Can you please break down exactly how you isolate in a way that doesn’t trigger social blowback, and how you time that escalation so it’s smooth but still leads somewhere?
/r/seduction24/05/25 02:38 PM
0

If girls are getting annoyed when you cold read, I think you're doing something wrong bro. When I do it, it's either, "Haha noooo (smiles/giggles), here's what's really up - blah blah blah" and we're in a great conversation. When I make a cold read, I'm not serious about it. It's part of breaking her balls a little. Example: "Oh you look just like a goth girl" if she has any dark makeup. It's a small, friendly jab while smiling. If I made the claim, "Oh, you are a goth girl" in all seriousness, …
/r/seduction24/05/25 01:09 PM
0

I agree about the long verbal routines. Good riddance! Cocky-funny still works, though. It conveys confidence and a bit of arrogance in a joking way, which softens the edge when done right. But you’ve got to know how to calibrate it — and accept that it can alienate some people. Dial it down if it does. Obviously, you also have to avoid genuinely offending people, or you’ll achieve absolutely nothing. And moreover, if you're gonna be funny, focus on having fun for yourself the most. When done ri…
/r/seduction24/05/25 12:56 PM
1

In my 20's and 30's I'd sometimes get several a week. Now in my 40's it's not as easy, but I still get it occasionally. But when I do get it, it's always a really young and hot girl, so there's that. Meaning quality of those I do get has taken a huge leap up, while I'd bang a lot more when I was younger. I'm not even sure why, but perhaps maturity is a thing, idk. I do look better now than ever before, though, in terms of fitness, so that might be it.
/r/seduction24/05/25 05:53 AM
1

Says the guy who treats life as a spreadsheet where you optimize ROI on human connection... You're not filtering dysfunction — you're preemptively rejecting reality in favor of a control fantasy. You say you're not dodging love, but what you describe is textbook avoidance. You're treating dating like a hostile negotiation or hostile takeover — a cold calculation based on "asset protection." But if you're always guarding yourself against potential mess, how will anyone ever see the real you? You'…
/r/seduction20/05/25 01:29 AM
1

You know, if you spend money on dates... You don't have to. Especially not on early dates. I'd only consider buying dinner to women I've already had sex with, for instance. If you want to check science, you'll see that guys who actually give second chances to partners actually have a bigger chance of finding real love, and real depth. So, probably the real question here is, who hurt you so much you want to avoid it entirely?
/r/seduction19/05/25 11:59 PM
2

How do ya take those responses and build chemistry from that? You don't. You either have chemistry or you don't. Most people know seconds after meeting each other. With that said, once you've got her interest, you can do several things to create tension. You can speak slowly and calmly, with a strong and clear masculine voice (this requires zero effort if you're already in a good mood, self amused and confident). You can cut the distance a little, just to check her reaction. Move closer physical…
/r/seduction19/05/25 02:33 PM
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Bro, unlike car crashes, dating won't kill you. And "reflecting" will leave you without extremely important experiences that you can draw on later in life. If you don't get actual experience, you'll just end up a theory-wanker. Good luck with that! Not to mention that you'll miss out on a ton of love, joy and good emotions.
/r/seduction19/05/25 10:21 AM
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Well, she walked away so it didn't seem that good. Or you got a window of opportunity, but you didn't take it. Essentially, you were insecure, and so you put off trying to get her alone or more private for too long, and then she left even though she might initially have been interested. Essentially, you panicked and became stifled, and that killed the vibe. And when the vibe is dead, she will leave or certainly not want to be alone with you anymore. Conversely, if you were in good flow at that m…
/r/seduction19/05/25 09:32 AM
2

Try to see if she wants to be alone with you. Take her out for "air" or whatever. Then see if she wants some more physicality.
/r/seduction19/05/25 09:19 AM
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If she looks at you with both eyes, it means she's a predator, so you better run away as fast as you can. Me, I'm dumb so I always smile back and go right over to say hi.
/r/seduction19/05/25 12:26 AM
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Most girls are like that. They just go with the flow, and do what feels good in the moment. That can be good or bad, depending. When it's to your advantage, it's good. When it's to your disadvantage, it's bad. Either way, now you're better prepared for it. As for the answer, just accept it. Means she's an adventurous woman. Great for short term pleasure, but don't expect her to suddenly become your trusty wife.
/r/seduction19/05/25 12:22 AM
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Worst thing I've read in a while. Certainly completely contrary to my own experience. Dating was great during that time, but obviously you explore and learn a lot more, so you can't be 100% certain that every relationship will work out perfectly. Yeah, meeting any person at any age carries some risk with it. Some people are just mean. Some people are evil. And some are unlucky. Just skating to work can ruin your entire life if you hit the curb in the wrong way. But are you gonna wear a helmet to…
/r/seduction19/05/25 12:19 AM
0

No, he's not. He's actually quite good at daygame. Tho if he danced, he'd have a much easier time during night game. For sure.
/r/seduction18/05/25 03:29 PM
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Heehee. I use dancing as qualification. "Do you dance?" If yes. "Show me." If no. "Aw that's just too bad. Here, let me show you!" I used it ... yesterday at a bar. I was talking to some hot girl there, and another girl came up right next to me to order a drink (not a coincidence since I was already talking to a hot girl), so I talked to her a bit too. And then she suddenly boasted, "boy, I only talk guys who can dance." So I went "Haha you just made a fool of yourself. Show me!" And so we dance…
/r/seduction18/05/25 03:27 PM
1

Most of the time you don't have to. You can just "be her friend" in words, but escalate physically. Like, you'll laugh and have fun. You'll touch her now and then. And suddenly it gets quiet for a bit, so you hold her gaze, perhaps brush her hair to the side, and then... you kiss. She already knows bro. No need to say awkward things. Just escalate. Energetically. Physically. She will know what's up. And you will feel the pressure as sexual tension builds.
/r/seduction17/05/25 01:25 AM
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Oh sorry about that. I only comment specific cases, and give advice. I think it's easier than writing out some generic post. But many of my longer comments are more like articles, meant to answer specific problems some guy might have.
/r/seduction17/05/25 01:23 AM
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You've gotta get her before you can keep her bro.
/r/seduction16/05/25 01:25 AM
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Had a good fat friend who did similar when I was checking out this girl lol. Also a friend of her. And it was ... bad. I tried to get rid of him, but I couldn't be really mean to my own friend. So, he ended up at my place for an "afterparty". Thankfully he was quite drunk and sleepy by the time we got there, so we sat in the other room and I just put drinks into him until he kinda fell over. Then the girl patted his belly and said sweetly to him, "You just go to sleep here, dear. I'll be in the …
/r/seduction13/05/25 09:41 PM
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Thanks, I will. No need to be bitter about it tho xD
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:38 PM
1

Speak for yourself bro.
/r/seduction11/05/25 10:26 PM
1

Then how did I only start attracting the 10's after I mentally also became the 10? Do you have any experience attracting 10's?
/r/seduction11/05/25 09:40 PM
1

It's a great opener. A friend of mine used to go around I open girls with, "Hi, my name's John and I've got AIDS." The girls would giggle, and after a while he'd isolate one of them and make out with her before taking her home for sex. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. And how much you believe in it.
/r/seduction11/05/25 02:12 AM
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Wrong.
/r/seduction10/05/25 10:45 PM
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Don't listen to the Reddit trolls. I gave you an up-vote because you said "mentally a ten." That's where you have to be a ten. And that's why you see 10's with average guys, looks-wise. But all these average guys who gets the hottest girls believe they are tens mentally. The others here, they just wanna debate you and get you down. They gain pleasure from ripping your inner reality apart. They are internet warriors who have a sad reality and can't get tens themselves, because they don't have the…
/r/seduction10/05/25 10:43 PM
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You'd be surprised. Look around, and you'll see most experienced players say that the hot ones are actually easier than the mid girls. There are many theories as to why. One is that few men actually dare approach the hot ones, so it filters out all the non-confident ones. Second, if a confident and hot man approaches a mid girl, she'll suspect that he's only gonna use her or something. Idk beats me, but nor do I care much since I'd much rather sleep with a hot girl anyway lol.
/r/seduction10/05/25 12:03 PM
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Haha last super-hot girl I met, I just went up and asked for directions. Like, I literally needed direction, but there was this super-hot girl there, so I thought - well, if I'm gonna ask anyone about directions, it's gonna be her! Ten seconds later she was giggling and biting her lower lip, so I asked for her number. These girls do exist. And they are starved for attention from actually real, value-giving and confident men. Why did she start giggling? I asked her some truly boring follow up que…
/r/seduction10/05/25 12:02 PM
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There are no 10's. There are personal 10's only. And then there are super-hot girls who most (but never all) agree is super-hot. This discussion was already put to death in 2005. Edit: Aside from this: Yes, be a 10! It's a mindset. It's learnable. It starts by asking this question: If I were a 10, how would I act around women? How would I perceive women? Would I care if some mid woman didn't like me?
/r/seduction10/05/25 11:58 AM
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I've dated some actually super hot women, girls who are as much if not even prettier IRL than in the pictures. They exist. And they long for a guy who will be real with them, and not a value-taking creep.
/r/seduction10/05/25 11:55 AM
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First of all, there are no 10's. They live only in your head. And most peeps disagree on what a 10 is anyway. So, let's just call them super-hot girls. Either to you personally, or someone who's accepted as being generally super hot, no matter if it's an 8 or a 9. Second, be me. ;) Yes, be a little cocky. Believe you're better than all the rest. Smile to them like you're the prize and not them. Enjoy how they look, enjoy them sexually, but without needing them. Hard to explain. When you look at …
/r/seduction10/05/25 11:54 AM
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Your biggest problem isn't your looks. It's your energy and vibe. You look fine and you have a good style. But you look depressed man. You look out of energy. Or low energy. Meditate. Visualize (naked chicks). You are enough. Find that part of you where everything amuses you. Women amuse you, and enthuse you. You are the shit. They want you to approach. So go over and say hi. You will know within 2 seconds if she likes you, sometimes even before you speak to her. Your animal vibes don't lie. Her…
/r/seduction09/05/25 07:59 PM
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Oh, I don't try to make a girl to anything. I simply accept the vibe. If it's good, I flirt a little. If it's bad or that I clearly have to work to get it moving further, then I just excuse myself and wish her a nice day. I don't want to impose myself. If the vibe isn't good, then I'm out of there. You'll notice if a girl is into you or not (and if not, then there are some signs you can check for but if you're autistic, it's gonna be very hard).
/r/seduction09/05/25 07:27 PM
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As I said, it's because it's no big deal to me. I'm just trying to figure some stuff out, or I'm just being social and checking the vibe. If the vibe is good, I might flirt a little. If the vibe is bad, I'll just bounce or nod and have sympathy. Also I didn't ask to see her bra or thong. She already wanted to show it to me, and did it knowing I was on a full bus lol. There was this girl in front of me who obviously overheard the conversation, and she'd stick her nosey nose up above the chair and…
/r/seduction08/05/25 11:39 PM
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Approaching women isn't even hard if you learn how to self amuse, spot interesting people, make funny but kind-hearted observations, and giving value, instead of bee-lining to the hot girl and pleading for her pity number while taking as much value as possible cuz you're trying so hard to make her like you. Here's an example from two weeks ago. I sat down at a bus stop. A super hot girl jogs over and starts fidgeting with a bag and takes out a water bottle (she just needed something to rest her …
/r/seduction08/05/25 11:49 AM
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It sounds to me like you're running the numbers game — but in the most awkward way possible. Based on what you’ve said, you’re doing tons of approaches, but they’re clearly not real interactions. Probably too short, too mechanical, maybe you're flat-faced, outcome-dependent, and not reading the girl's vibe properly. Girls don’t respond to “just asking for a number” — they respond to a feeling. If she’s not laughing, playing along, or emotionally invested, the interaction is dead before you even …
/r/seduction08/05/25 11:40 AM
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I recently approached a girl at a bus stop just to ask for directions. I actually needed directions for once, but naturally I picked the hottest girl there. After I was done asking for directions I asked what she was up to, and it turned out we had something very important in common. So we chatted some more, and suddenly she started smiling and giggling like a little girl. NGL it was turning me on, so I took her details. We were sadly going in different directions tho. This girl was going to fre…
/r/seduction08/05/25 01:26 AM
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Please don't tell them that you're Chad McBaconstrips. Unless you also offer fries on the side.
/r/seduction08/05/25 12:41 AM
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A confident man would smile and give them nice eye contact back. Then he'd walk over and introduce himself, perhaps by saying "I noticed that you were looking at me. Hi, I'm Chad McBaconstrips and it made me want to ask you out on a date." Ok, probably don't say that last part, but do go over and introduce yourself and have a little chat. And do be a little cocky but only in gest. If it makes you afraid to do it, then you need to practise being social. You're not going over to marry her. You're …
/r/seduction07/05/25 11:30 PM
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It's a great place to pull. "Hey, I have Italian food there." Or "I actually brought my stamp collection, wanna come see?" Or "I'm gonna pop a bottle of wine and see some Netflix, you coming?" It might sound cheesy, but this stuff really works. You won't know until you've tried it. Worst thing she'll say is no, and then you pitch going to her place instead. Or if you've already been making out, talk about how cozy it would be to simply spoon for a while.
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:47 PM
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You have the best excuse to go over! "Hey, I'm lost... Where do I find ABC?" Or "Hey, is this Place X? Cuz... I'm not sure I am where I'm supposed to. Yeah, I'm travelling hehe." Or if it's really late, pretend that your phone lost battery, and that you can no longer find your way to the hotel and that the hot girl needs to put you up in her bed, I mean sofa.
/r/seduction07/05/25 10:45 PM
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Right now I'm working on push and pull variations. Variations on "I hate you, I love you." It could also be "I hate that, I love that" to fish for compliance. I try to "smith" in one statement of disinterest, followed by one statement of interest - playfully. An actual statement of disinterest would be hurtful. She'll notice when you're just breaking her balls a bit, as opposed when you're actually hurtful. It's supposed to be a playful challenge, and not a mean remark.
/r/seduction06/05/25 12:25 PM
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Tinder? Dude, you must look like a male model. Congratulations! Anyway, for most guys it's crickets on Tinder. Picture tumbleweeds crossing the road while someone plays the harmonica. Honestly, the places I've seen most normal guys getting paired up is at some hobby or more or less close-knit community. Go there for the hobby first, to get gf second, then just get to know people. This is if you want a steady relationship. Not for hookups. You could go the PUA route and learn psychology, and up e…
/r/seduction30/04/25 12:00 PM
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If your dates are far and few between, then why aren't you looking for something serious?
/r/seduction30/04/25 11:39 AM
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You did great. It's an experience. At the same time, you made way too big of a deal about it. Next time, calm down and chill out. Say hi, check the vibe first. Just say "how are you!" and make an observation about her. If there's a good vibe, then ask her out. If the vibe isn't quite there, give her a statement of intent, such as "Well, I just wanted to say hi cuz I found you attractive." If she answers with evasion or negativity at that point, thank her for the conversation and move on. But if …
/r/seduction30/04/25 12:56 AM
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Yes, being good in bed is great. Except it's often a way of pedestalizing her. When you put too much effort into pleasing her, at the behest of pleasing yourself, it's akin to buying a girl drinks in the hopes that she'll love you. She'll feel validated, true, but she's also secretly resent you. The weird way I learned this was when a girl said that she would love me to just use her from time to time, to just empty myself in her, so that she could feel that I truly enjoyed her, and that I owned …
/r/seduction30/04/25 12:45 AM
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Yeah well hate to break this to you, but it's you not them. Look up "taking value" when talking to women. You need to learn how to give value. Also look up depression or simply expecting that the conversation is gonna go bad. Look up Expectation Effect. It's real. But it also means you can change it. Also bee lining for the hottest girl, and then making it a big deal to do it, will also ruin things for you. It should never be an effort. It should never be a big deal. And the best way to do that,…
/r/seduction30/04/25 12:37 AM
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If you have issues like these, then you shouldn't talk to them until you've fixed your issues. It's no big deal to talk to a woman, anywhere. Don't make it into something it isn't, and you'll be just fine.
/r/seduction29/04/25 02:03 AM
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give her a compliment Don't give compliments, bro. Makes her the prize. Instead, make fun observations. Only give her compliments when she lives up to some standard of yours, or if she's able to "own" you back. and start a conversation, but it doesn't go beyond small talk level. Yes, because you're afraid of being rejected for who you are.... You gotta spice it up a bit, make it man-to-woman. Make it known to her that you're not there to become her friend. But obviously without being creepy. Loo…
/r/seduction26/04/25 10:21 PM
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You got it. The “code” really is just: Show up with good energy, no agenda Connect for real, not for a result Let attraction happen because you're being social, not to be social When that’s your baseline, you’ll get way more genuine interest, and yeah—plenty of girls will make the next move if they’re feeling it. Honestly, I didn’t learn this from one book—just from years of noticing what actually works when you stop trying. But Brent Smith’s old stuff hits this mindset hard if you can find it. …
/r/seduction23/04/25 02:10 AM
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99% of your progress will be just meeting up. Next time, try to see if you dare to smile or nod to someone. Then after that, try to see if you dare to also say hi if they smile back. Then after that see if you dare to get into an actual conversation. Make it platonic first. Then when you're good at starting conversation, try to make it a bit sexual, or have more intent, tell her you wanted to talk cuz you think she's cute and straight ask her for a date.
/r/seduction23/04/25 01:45 AM
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I think it's a great plan, but according to the legend himself who made this approach famous, Brent Smith (the lifestyle coach, not the musician); this approach is not a technique. I.e. if you're using it as a technique in order to get laid, then it won't work. Instead, his game is the social game. I.e. you talk to everyone, become the life of the party, and then you're naturally attractive to everyone around you, because you have such a great energy, and make everyone love you. This is what I a…
/r/seduction23/04/25 01:16 AM
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This is a pretty good answer. Pre-selection is when women see that other women like you, which may or may not be he case. But men who are pre-selected tend to act in certain high value and giving ways. Certainly, they don't approach hoping to be liked, rather such a man approaches to share his passion and joy, i.e. in order to give.
/r/seduction19/04/25 06:00 PM
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In simple terms: Because he's offering value, while you're taking value. He's just sharing a laugh, while you want them to like you.
/r/seduction19/04/25 05:56 PM
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Man, rejection stings, especially when it feels like it’s not just a “no,” but a personal attack. So let’s analyse it a bit. Some women reject harshly because the way a guy approaches feels like he's trying to take something from them — validation, attention, approval — even if that’s not his intent. And people instinctively push back when they feel something’s being taken without consent, or when you feel sold to; someone is trying to sell something to you. This happens a lot when guys feel lik…
/r/seduction19/04/25 05:50 PM
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Nah, major town. I've always been a city slicker. I do have farmer background tho. Until I was 5 I was raised on a farm. On raw milk and lots of logging. Did wonders for my physique!!!
/r/seduction18/04/25 11:28 AM
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No. The opposite is true. If girls go after you, are entertained by you, and so on, something kicks in which is called pre-selection. Look it up. If you start making out with another girl in front of her, then don't expect her to be happy lol. Ahem, learned that the hard way...
/r/seduction17/04/25 03:30 PM
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I've been chased by super gorgeous girls. Gotten love letters. Recently one of the most gorgeous girls in my community sent me long looks across the room, and cried when they had to leave me. Gorgeous girls have insecurities too, often because most men actually don't even dare to speak to them. That leaves them with a frustrated need to reach out.
/r/seduction17/04/25 03:25 PM
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This is the answer. We won't know, tho, because it depends entirely on his delivery. And how the women perceive him when he arrives. It's not all about looks. It's also about energy and vibe. If it's really good, he'll get away with way more direct stuff. Most guys don't get that, and so they default that it's only looks. Meanwhile truly happy and content men will always have the upper hand in approaching, and also it proves that it really doesn't matter what you open with - as long as it's genu…
/r/seduction16/04/25 12:47 AM
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No. It depends upon delivery and context.
/r/seduction16/04/25 12:44 AM
1

I asked my date. She doesn't want to meet your dog. She would much rather meet mine.
/r/seduction15/04/25 01:07 PM
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You put one foot in front of the other. And then you go over. Don't say anything when you get there. Just stare at her intensely until she opens you. (reverse psycho logic!)
/r/seduction15/04/25 01:40 AM
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There are many ways of doing it. The usual sign is if you're talking about something slightly emotional, and then she just stops talking and just looks at you. This is your sign to move in. Barring that, or if you want to move things along a little quicker, you can always go "wow is that your perfume? May I sme... Omg! Omg what are you doing to me!" start kissing her neck. Also, if she rejects the kiss the first time, it's almost never a big deal. Just keep talking as if nothing happened. If she…
/r/seduction15/04/25 01:38 AM
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So, she went to his place? Man, I don't want my girl to go to his place for anything! I'm trying to get her to come to my place! And I don't need no stinkin' dog!
/r/seduction15/04/25 01:33 AM
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I’ve always loved with family and/or roommates my entire life Incest jokes incoming!!!! jk I assume you meant lived lol Yeah having your own apartment is freaking liberating! All the best!
/r/seduction15/04/25 12:34 AM
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Ah, my dear Padawan... You have no idea how fast you can escalate to a kiss! I have escalated to make-outs without even saying hi to loads of women first (and a friend of mine both made out with a girl, and got her home for sex without saying a single word - it's possible). It's all about the vibe, and about having the confidence to go for it when it's time. (After the deed, my friend told the girl that she could choose to know one out of two things: His phone number or his name. She chose his n…
/r/seduction15/04/25 12:29 AM
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But... Why would my date want to meet your dog???
/r/seduction15/04/25 12:25 AM
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I always feel like she would definitely say “no” or feel uncomfortable if I were to invite her back to my place. This is something you feel. You cannot know how she may react to it. But your mirror neurons makes it awkward for her if you think it's awkward. So, your job is to make it chill and cool to ask that question. That's how your friends succeed. For them it's no big deal. So I’m pretty well always assuming she would say no for sure. This is a classical case of rejecting yourself, because …
/r/seduction15/04/25 12:25 AM
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If she doesn't have a wedding ring.... Then you're home free to try to marry her! She might claim that she has a boyfriend, but as long as she isn't married, that shouldn't deter you from getting to know her, becoming intimate, kicking out that other loser, and then marrying her - because he never had the balls to do that anyway, but you did, and so good for you and bad for him! Dude, the way you find out if a girl is single, is by ASKING her!
/r/seduction13/04/25 10:53 AM
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So, in my original post, I ask some questions. There's a lot of answers in those questions. Be carefree. Have more fun with your friends or wings. Don't beeline, but instead systematically open people (not just women) in arms reach. Walk slowly, or move from table to table even, stop, have a chat, move on. People are attracted to FUN. So make FUN a priority. Generate your OWN fun, don't leech off others. This means you have to dare to express yourself. Low value people don't have that ability, b…
/r/seduction11/04/25 08:34 PM
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This is a very common problem. It's always easier when you feel there is no social repercussion since you're "abroad". Except it's not true and it's all in your head. The real goal is to create so much fun with your wings, or the party you're with, that girls be approaching themselves into your bubble. Like some other peeps pointed out here, I think 99 percent of your problem is inner game related.
/r/seduction11/04/25 06:29 PM
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things never really go further What things are you referring to here? Do you just sit there and talk endlessly? Or have you ever tried escalating, getting her alone, trying to kiss her? I went clubbing with a friend, hoping to meet someone So, you just show up there and hope? Do you stand there nervously scanning the room for hotties, or do you actively stay social and in a good mood, and then talk to the cute girls while you're busy being social and having fun? Your frame here makes a big diffe…
/r/seduction11/04/25 06:22 PM
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Once every second year sure is consistent, but it's not the kind of consistent I'm looking for, so instead I learned how to flirt. But you do you man!
/r/seduction11/04/25 03:12 PM
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That's right. if you don't know how to lie, you'll stay a virgin. Forever!!! 8-|
/r/seduction11/04/25 03:04 PM
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You do that while making out. At some point she'll go "wtf aren't you gay?" Then you give her the ultimate compliment "You're so hot you've turned me straight! HOT LIKE AN IRON! Myyy iron....."
/r/seduction11/04/25 03:03 PM
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If you spent any time in the pickup and seduction community, you'd know that it's a common way to flirt with girls to first tell her that you're gay, and then make out with her - and when she asks "wtf I thought you were gay" you give her the ultimate compliment "OMG you're so hot you've turned me straight!" Being "gay" is also a great way to disarm boyfriends and friends who think they need to protect her by telling her stuff like "Just tell him I'm your gay friend you haven't seen in a long ti…
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:57 PM
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You’re being condescending to protect your ego and presumed intelligence from the fact that your logic still doesn’t translate as you introduced this as a line that gives the ‘best reaction’. Let's analyse this paragraph: You're accusing him of being condescending based on an explanation he gives. In his first sentence, he's just being matter of fact. But in his second sentence he does express frustration with you by saying "The fact that I even have to explain it like this says enough about you…
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:55 PM
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Yes, that's the end goal. However, in order to open an hook a set, you need to start somewhere. I think this particular start is hilarious. I've seen way worse lines that still work at stopping someone, and making them interested in you. That's all an opener is supposed to do, amuse a bit, and have them stop and show interest. You'll still have to stay in the set long enough for her to trust you and want to become intimate with you. That first opener never does that on its own.
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:44 PM
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Have you tried this line in real life? Please do. Check results. Then you're welcome back to share you're experience. Until that time I'll continue the tradition and call you out as a KJ.
/r/seduction11/04/25 02:42 PM
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Or you know (yes, here's a novel idea) you can - like -learn how to cold approach without pissing people off... This is also a very real option. With that said, sure, everyone needs to learn. And part of the journey is that you risk pissing some people off if you do it wrong, or if you're not smooth. But the goal is to become smooth in the process. You can't become great at something on the first try. You gotta practise. If you think it should be illegal to practise cold approaching, you should …
/r/seduction07/04/25 09:58 PM
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Really appreciate the way you framed the fear of rejection. Makes a lot of sense and hits close to home. I'm curious though, when you say things often went better once you pushed through, what did that actually look like in practice? Like, were these situations where she didn’t reject you even before the set really got going? Or maybe it did hook and you had a bit of back-and-forth, but then it kind of fizzled out after a while? Or are we talking actual tangible results, like you got numbers tha…
/r/seduction07/04/25 12:53 PM
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Oh, wait you think all women are these unique little snowflakes lol... Have you ever heard about statistics? How about human nature? There are rules, and they can be gamed once you learn it. Will improve your odds drastically. Or why else do men who go out a lot not get laid until they learn game?
/r/seduction07/04/25 10:28 AM
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Why not both? I'd want ten game with money. Looks just gets you the 10 first seconds.
/r/seduction06/04/25 11:36 PM
1

Michael Jordan was just lucky when he hit those hoops. Basket is only a numbers game. I saw uncut shots from Michael Jordan when he was training, and he missed like 300 shots. What you see in the playoffs is just luck. /s
/r/seduction06/04/25 11:35 PM
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Tell me you don't know about pickup without telling me you don't know about pickup. Yeah negs was some bs Mystery invented. Most people - especially you - misinterpret how to use it. Not that it matters, cuz shortly after its introduction, most in the scene went over to use way better techniques.
/r/seduction06/04/25 11:26 PM
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Bro... Where did I talk about puas? I said that seduction and pickup is something you can learn and get better at. Please point out where I said you can beat rock stars and naturals? But tell you what, since you're all bold claims and zero proof, why is it that I have yet to meet a guy learning game who hasn't double, tripled and quadrupled his lay count in a short amount of time after starting to learn? You can't answer it, cuz you know jack shit about the scene. You don't know lay counts. And …
/r/seduction06/04/25 11:24 PM
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No, then you've just got shit game and need to become better. If you try to hit 30 hoops in a row, and miss them all, just practise more. You will get better. After a while you'll start to hit more and more. Still a number's game? No, cuz it's a game of skill bro. But practise takes the balls of daring to fail. If you never dare to fail, you will also never win. And if you never try to lift, you'll be relegated to lifting only the puniest of weights forever - until that day when you've had enoug…
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:35 PM
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Blackpill alert. Dude has zero game. Looks help you the first 10 seconds, then personality and vibe is everything. If you're in a good mood and you're social and give value wherever you go, it will override your looks. Other than that, sure everything is a "number's game" but you can affect it a lot with good game.
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:32 PM
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Yes and no. To some extent most of life depends a bit on luck. But have you noticed that it's way easier to pull when you're in a good mood, or when you hang there with really cool people who build you up? Well, this is the antithesis to "it's a number's game". If it's easier to pull women when you're in the flow, or you're in a really good mood and don't give a fuck, then that's proof it's not a numbers game. Sure, like, there is some randomness and luck to it, but your vibe - your inner game, …
/r/seduction06/04/25 06:30 PM
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Well, then he doesn't need this forum. He can get girls with personality.
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:51 PM
1

Awesome. I'll hit up those 25 year olds then! Thank you!
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:26 PM
1

You make zero sense! "Many 50's men become fathers (my dad for example. No, he made me when he was 30)"??? So, did he become a father for someone else when he was in his 50s???
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:08 PM
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Yeah, you're much better than this. You can get women on your looks. Or some magic pickup line. Good luck!
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:05 PM
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You've got this wrong. Rizz is situational for most guys. But it can be learned, mostly by letting go and daring to have fun and let lose also in front of the hot girls. Once you go unstifled, and you're in the zone, rizz will come naturally to you - if you let it. Most guys don't know how, and they freeze up when they talk to the hottest women. Because they think it matters, when it really doesn't. The guys with "rizz" are the guys who just don't care, and who are able to get in the zone even w…
/r/seduction04/04/25 11:04 PM
1

The best one I've got on a coffee date was her going "wanna see my boat?" I was just like wtf, but yeah, we went and saw her boat, and... Boats are fun to have sex in lol!
/r/seduction29/03/25 11:24 PM
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Don't look for signs. At the end of the date, assume it's on. Tell her "Ok, I'm off. You coming?" If she says yes, just go. If she says no, then try to sell it, or pich going for food or something else (nearby you). And then re-try. And if nothing else works, either give her your number (if cold approach) or plan a second date (if on a date). You can also pre-seed it early at the date, telling her about your plans for later. "Ah, looking forward to after. Gonna chill with a glass of wine and wat…
/r/seduction29/03/25 11:20 PM
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+1 for quitting video games. Another for working out and looking good just in socks. (All a man needs is a good pair of socks, and then he's fully clothed!!!) As far as posture goes, just feeling good about yourself will instantly fix a lot of posture problems, but if you're an office rat, then yeah - actually working on the right muscles will also help that. Like, core exercises. Dancing is also amazing for getting better posture due to the muscles you have to train and train in order to get go…
/r/seduction27/03/25 10:30 AM
1

My flirting isn't non-existent but it's pretty piss poor if I'm being honest. Being aware of the problem is half the battle. How would you improve your flirting skills? I just need a decent friggin wingman but no one in my friend group has done that for me. Yeah this sucks. Tho you don't need an expert on game, just someone who's enthusiastic about going out, staying positivev and learning. I'm tired of tryna be the cordial gentleman that my Mom wanted me to be with women. It's gotten me nothing…
/r/seduction27/03/25 10:25 AM
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I can hear my dad yelling at me: "You're not supposed to figure them out. You're supposed to fuck them!" IMHO, unless you're really, really good at the social game, simply stop asking women out. They don't want to be asked out. They want to be fucked by an exciting guy. So, instead learn to flirt, mercilessly, and learn how to bring her around the corner to make out with them. Only ask her out after you've fucked her. Learn to approach. And then learn to get them hooked, and to get compliance. I…
/r/seduction27/03/25 12:44 AM
2

You identify with being fat and lazy. I used to be like you. I told myself, now it's time to eat cake and enjoy it. Here's what happened. Seven years of being single. I didn't even try to meet women. Who am I now. Heh, well I'm still single, but at least I'm meeting - and banging - a ton of chicks. Why? Well, I actually also got fairly hot chicks as overweight. But I had to work very hard for it, which is exhausting. And it got me depressed. So I hit the gym. Hard. It took some coaxing to get in…
/r/seduction27/03/25 12:36 AM
0

Most of them already are ... wait, you have to pay through the nose for stuff like that in the states???
/r/seduction26/03/25 01:11 AM
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Hey if you got the mo, then go ahead and spend it. If you're aspie you're probably gonna waste it tho. Yes, even though it "feels" good. The question is, does it actually change your behaviour for the better? Sorry, studies say it doesn't. But whatever. Heroin also makes people feel good.
/r/seduction26/03/25 12:36 AM
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Hot take: Autism cannot be cured by health professionals. Only exposure and pattern recognition can help autism spectrum guys get better at socialization. (Health pros can help you cope better with it tho, but I seriously doubt that they can find better ways to notice social patterns other than actually going out and getting experience). And to that end, some - cough Tyler Durden a.k.a. Owen Cook - get so good that they just outshine everyone else to such a point that it's actually scary. If you…
/r/seduction26/03/25 12:20 AM
0

Amirite? It's not ad homs when you do it. Calling people creepy, desperate and without confidence or other options... That's not ad homs! Yes, because my advice is so dangerous... Omg someone could get creeped out! By your standards I'm sure that's a world-ending event lol... Thanks for your advice on how to not get laid bro xD
/r/seduction25/03/25 01:43 PM
2

Oh wow so now it's desperate lol... you must be fun at parties.
/r/seduction25/03/25 01:17 PM
2

A lot of guys don't know how to calibrate, that's all. Perhaps I have a gift, because I know when a girl is into me. And I know which buttons to push. Either way most guys are too timid, and because they never risk creepy, they never get laid. So a guy hit on you. So what? Just tell him "mind your own business" or "IHABF" and he should take the hint.
/r/seduction25/03/25 12:52 PM
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I wrote a longer reply in this thread on why you're wrong.
/r/seduction25/03/25 12:28 PM
1

Omg I went to this ice cream stall, and saleswoman there was obviously flirting with me. I asked her for her favourite between two types of chocolate. She pointed to that one, so I immediately said to her: "Ok, then I'll take the other one!" She laughed and blushed, and I went off to the table. She let me finish my coffee (and the other chocolate bar lol), but when she came over to clean the table, she bit her lip while glancing at me, and then she left a little note under the coffee plate and l…
/r/seduction25/03/25 12:26 PM
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It's only creepy if you push for the conversation, and then push even harder for her details. That's creepy, and if she gives you her details, she'll flake on you. Instead, just be social and carefree. Of course have a chat with the saleswoman, be nice and ask her how her day is. Look for sexual tension and a bit of flirting. Also look for if she's contributing to the conversation a bit beyond what is polite from the till. If she does, then it's game on! Read my other post for what to do from th…
/r/seduction25/03/25 12:21 PM
3

You cannot know if there is any kind of attraction? Dude, if a girl is into you, you notice. Thing is most men don't have the confidence to go "yep, means she's into me!" Or even the confidence to go "omg the sexual tension is THICK here, but I can take it without breaking that tension!" It's the last thing that leads to actual meetup, even with service personnel. Ask me how I know... Ok, so maybe some guys truly don't know... So how did I start to know when a service girl is into me? Well, part…
/r/seduction25/03/25 12:12 PM
2

I don't know about you, but I don't need to have romantic feelings towards a girl in order to be sexually attracted to her. That means I can easily hop into bed with a hot body without wanting to start a family with her or see her otherwise.
/r/seduction23/03/25 05:46 PM
1

What do you mean by "talking to"? Are you just chit-chatting online, or meeting up in person? Are you going on dates with them? Do they willingly come over to hang out with you at your place? Are you trying to have sex with them? Are you having sex with them? So many questions, so few answers! I think I "talk to" like 50 girls a week, easily. Doesn't mean they all come home with me, although that would have been lovely!
/r/seduction23/03/25 05:40 PM
2

Perhaps try it out in the field and find out for yourself? These techniques exist for a reason. But they also need to be employed from the right vibe and mindset. Almost always they're an accessory to a light-hearted and fun interaction, and not the main crutch the conversation stands on. If you make an observation about her (negative or positive), it's just a conversation starter, or some spice, not the whole vibe. Moreover, your belief about the world colours your perception and even your perf…
/r/seduction22/03/25 05:50 PM
2

Look, I work out a lot, and I diet, so I've started looking good again. The last two weeks three women just randomly approached me and kissed me on the cheek. Warm sets, peeps I've been presented to before, but I digress. This isn't how women usually act around men. They only do this around men they really, really crave. Just goes to show that dieting and hitting the gym HARD really pays off, so keep it up!
/r/seduction20/03/25 12:53 PM
2

The oldest trick in the book is when a girl asks you to come over and help you out with something, such as lifting something heavy. Hint: If it's not actually heavy, she wants to feel something else that's heavy... Girls that are into you might also try to get physical with you, they'll brush up on you, they'll try to touch you in weird - often uncalibrated - ways. Or they'll just straight up kiss you on the cheek or something silly like that. Like this weekend this girl I danced with suddenly k…
/r/seduction20/03/25 12:48 PM
1

Teev is a normal dude. Much like me. Worst of all, he's actually shorter than I am lol. I'm 180 cm myself. But his game is on point. And he's a master escalator. Moreover this is all learnable. Because I learned it myself. And so did many of my friends. We went out, tested shit out, and found out what worked first hand from our lair ASF Norway. It was a glorious time! And most of the guys there were just normal dudes like me. Some more or less handsome ofc, but the really handsome ones got a lot…
/r/seduction19/03/25 11:36 PM
2

"Regarded?" Probably read up on why men become leaders. You have a lot to learn bro.
/r/seduction19/03/25 03:01 PM
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The friend effect is real. Also women will want to stay with you longer if you're good in bed.
/r/seduction19/03/25 02:17 PM
3

For once I don't fully agree. I think you're just being contrarian here. Yes, game can get you far, but it's also game to make attraction effortless. And you do that through building social status and showing that you're carefree and fun - and that you've got a great social circle of high value men. Women throw themselves at guys like that. For free. Without you spitting game. I know this, because I am a guy like that (or certainly on a good day lol), and because I grew up as the close friend of…
/r/seduction19/03/25 02:15 PM
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Wrong. The essence of being an "alpha" or a leader, is being able to take care of your tribe and offer them real opportunity, value and safety. If you don't have the ability to care for your people (a.k.a. lead them, and them being willing to follow you cuz you have something tangible to offer), then they will have no impetus to follow you, and so you're not an alpha nor a leader. Then you're just a wannabe and a competitor, and other men will despise you and easily throw a wrench into your gear…
/r/seduction19/03/25 02:01 PM
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Sage advice old as time itself: You are the friends you have. If you have loser friends, chances are you're a loser yourself.
/r/seduction19/03/25 01:58 PM
9

It's really easy to trigger a woman emotionally. Just tell her she's fat....
/r/seduction19/03/25 12:57 PM
0

Winners take the dub bro. Go for W! Befriend the girlfriend first, then either get her number or steal a kiss when the gf turns her back.
/r/seduction13/03/25 11:49 AM
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How has that worked out for you? Like, if you take your girl away from her girlfriend, how has that worked for you? In my experience it has always backfired badly. The girl will turn angry, claw her girl angrily in, and violently push you away. IMHO the best way to deal with jealous girlfriends is to befriend her first. Get her permission. She's afraid she'll be left alone by her girl. Then stay in the set as the friendly guy. Either get the number of your girl, or steal a kiss when the jealous …
/r/seduction13/03/25 11:48 AM
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This is important. If you meet a girl away from her friends, say, on the dance floor, and she is into you - then avoid her friends like the plague. If she gives you a heads up on where her friends are, she's doing it because she wants to be alone with you. So go in the other direction. Find another way out. Grab a taxi as soon as possible. When you're off, have her text her friends that "I got tired and went home." Then reward her for it by telling her that she's a naughty girl. "You're a naught…
/r/seduction13/03/25 11:43 AM
1

I think approaching in groups is the best. If it's like 5+, it's easy as hell, because they'll think that you're just another acquaintance. So just be friendly and say hello to the others, but then focus on your girl. You can even have her present you as her old friend or classmate lol. "Yeah we've known each other for AGES!" lololo! IMHO the most difficult sets are two-sets. Because you have to somehow get the girl away from her friend. If you also entertain the friend, you might get the number…
/r/seduction13/03/25 11:39 AM
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How has that been working out for you? Personally I haven't had much success with it. As in, it works really well on men, but not so much on girlfriends. With girlfriends my best strat is to befriend them first, take her in, and make sure she likes you before you can talk to the girl you actually like. Or better yet, have my wing occupy her, or throw some random guy at her. Makes it easier to sneak off with my girl.
/r/seduction13/03/25 11:35 AM
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Um how should I know? I'm not a woman. I supposed the 6 is approached now and then, especially around closing time when all the nice ones have already left. 7's probably get approached all the time. 8's a little less actually cuz some men find then intimidating. Also in groups they usually protect those 9's almost never, and when a guy dares, he's either super confident or so nervous he's sweating his underpants. 10's don't exist.
/r/seduction11/03/25 08:04 PM
2

If a girl is constantly in your proximity, hovering behind you or in front of you, then she most likely likes you and wants you to approach her, or engage in an interaction with her. She often won't smile or even look at you because she's shy. But if she consistently is hovering nearby you, going to and fro in front of you, then she most likely wants you to talk to her. So, just smile and say hi. Sidenote: It does not means she wants to hop to bed with you or get married. But she's interested an…
/r/seduction11/03/25 06:00 PM
3

You're reaching peak attraction. I never had as many girls as when I hit 30. It was more or less a sure thing. Still keeps being pretty good into your 40's if you take care of yourself.
/r/seduction09/03/25 11:45 PM
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I think this is proof that women want to pursue. I love being pursued myself. But it requires some discipline. Flipping over to pursuer when a woman pursues me has lead me to rejection more often than not. I found out that keeping things fairly platonic with pursuing women works wonders. It keeps things friendly, until she's ready. But then when she is ready, you have to go for the kiss in the very least, or you truly end up in the friend zone. So, it's just not true that you have to remain pass…
/r/seduction07/03/25 07:26 PM
0

Look at the expert on pedagogy here! You clearly know more about learning than I do! /s Actually, it does make me an expert on the subject matter of confidence. Because it's an integral part of learning. And you'd know that if you knew anything about pedagogy, which you don't. You can't fake it bro. Either you are confident, or you are not. Only knowledge and mastery breeds confidence. And you get that by reading up, and going out and trying until you succeed. The second you're in an unknown sit…
/r/seduction07/03/25 02:32 AM
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No, you cannot. I'm a licensed teacher. I have a degree in pedagogy. You cannot fake confidence. But you can kinda hide it, by doing what you're afraid of anyway. And as you learn and gain mastery, you also gain confidence.
/r/seduction07/03/25 12:26 AM
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Here's the bad news: There is no way to fake confidence. Either you have it, or you don't. But here's the kicker. The only way to get it, is to go out there and try. So, the real question is: Are you a coward? Are you a quitter? Cuz if you're either of those, then you're never ever gonna get confident. Confidence is all about knowing what to do in every situation. There is only one way to do this: You have to read up, and the test out stuff in the field. Once you get experience, you will get tha…
/r/seduction07/03/25 12:25 AM
1

Sounds like you're putting these interactions on a pedestal, which might be throwing off your vibe. You're probably making too big of a deal out of these women before anything even happens. Instead of focusing on "winning" the interaction, try dialing it back and just seeing where it goes. A good way to ease into the conversation is to make two quick observations and then ask a question. If she’s got red shoes, you could say, "Oh, red shoes. I hate red shoes!"_—but with a smirk, obviously. You’r…
/r/seduction06/03/25 09:24 PM
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Tl;dr: Yes. But often not. Is it worth it? Up to you. Personally I never burn bridges. I forget her for a month or two, then I send her a meme or a cute kitten pic just to see her reaction. Is it good? Cool, build on that, and perhaps ask her out again. If she doesn't seem interested, gives short answers, etc, k, wait another few months. I always send "post cards" on big occasions, Xmas, Valentines, Halloween, etc. So, why do I do this? Well, cuz circumstances change. People change. Also girls a…
/r/seduction05/03/25 01:13 PM
2

Generic reply to "I have a boyfriend": I just smile and say: "Well, look at you! Of course you do!" Usually I'll just tell her that he must be a lucky guy, and then tell her to call me when she's single. Always makes them smile. Edit: ‘We can do it, but I have to say I have a boyfriend’. This is an invitation for infidelity. So, listen. If she doesn't get with you, she'll get with someone else. That's why I'd go for it. But I'd go for it knowing that she's untrustworthy.
/r/seduction04/03/25 11:04 PM
1

They will be if you fix your life. I mean, if an oldie like me gets attention from young hotties simply by lifting, eating healthy and getting a better wardrobe, then so can you.
/r/seduction04/03/25 05:26 PM
1

Aw man. I was 18 first time I got that. Was really great. Never saw the girl again lol. But I still remember it. Met another girl later, at a gas station of all places. We went for a stroll, and I felt her up under the blouse. Omg...! I still have her number like 25 years later lololol! Might call her tonight. Cherish this moment! This is your time to shine!
/r/seduction04/03/25 01:41 AM
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You should really fix your life and speak to more women then. Also you deserve a hug. Hug!
/r/seduction04/03/25 01:33 AM
1

Nah, depends entirely if you've got game or not. Being friend zoned is usually no problem, as long as you also get access to her social circle. But yes, if you don't even get that, then ofc just let her go. Or send her a meme once in a blue moon to check if she's single again.
/r/seduction03/03/25 11:44 PM
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Or you can keep chatting if you truly like her. Eventually she'll fall in love with you and she'll engage more. Or you'll become fast friends and invite each other over for things. Never burn bridges. Instead build new ones. <3
/r/seduction03/03/25 12:00 PM
1

NGL that's pretty low for a guy who gives seduction advice on Reddit.
/r/seduction25/02/25 11:26 PM
1

OMG u/epimpstyle , I'm so happy you're here and see right through this crap! For those who don't know, this guy is legit. He actually goes out and tests out seduction techniques instead of making dumb claims like "hey guess which schools she went to, that'll get you laid".
/r/seduction25/02/25 11:25 PM
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NGL this is pretty bad advice. I mean, sure, talking to her is better than nothing. Tho guessing which school she went to and hoping that'll get you laid, not so much bro... Lol! Moreover, this "advice" comes from a self-proclaimed 6'3 male model, so how do you expect this sheyd advice to work for peeps who aren't that height or a male model? This kind of bs even has a name: Winner's Perspective. It's pickup seen from a guy who's already a winner within pickup, a guy who's already top 10% or som…
/r/seduction25/02/25 11:21 PM
4

Read up on some books on how to be better in bed, or better at sex and domination in general. Read up on how to escalate, turn up the heat slowly with flirting and innuendo - starting even before you get home - instead of thinking of it like a switch. Then learn about foreplay. Where to touch. Learn where to find her spots and what to do with them. I.e. where is her clit, and how do you touch it - not directly at first, use lubrication. Where's the G-spot. How do you handle it. When do you go ha…
/r/seduction25/02/25 11:07 PM
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Nah, you don't. There are height caps on models. They're called "models" because they fit certain reqs in clothes, in terms of height and size. And you ain't it. They make exceptions for sports stars tho, since famous peeps always sell. But.. .You know if you were famous, wtf you here for, and wtf you giving dating advice for? What, your advice is "be famous"? Gtfo! But yeah, I've stolen hot women away from male models too. Actual male models who go on billboards for top brands. Being a basket p…
/r/seduction25/02/25 09:33 PM
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Ahahaha, so why tf do you give dating advice then? Why do I - a tiny guy compared to you - get sports models? No, it's way worse than that. I take sports models away from tall basked players like you! By all accounts you should be winning against me, but why aren't you? You just don't want uncle Ben teaching you, that is all.
/r/seduction25/02/25 07:15 PM
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Yeah, just be yourself, amirite? The exact advice you criticized in your OP... But don't listen to me. My advice is obviously worthless and my experience counts for absolutely nothing. You already know how to touch grass and talk to people like a normal human, after all, so what would I ever have to teach you? That's right, never approach. Wouldn't wanna learn anything after all. Better to keep your self respect so you never have to face rejection. Well, good luck with this approach!
/r/seduction25/02/25 05:44 PM
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Here's what approaching fixes: It helps you grow a pair, i.e. it helps you gain confidence, because every time you do it, you'll realize that "Hey, I'm still alive...? She didn't even try to hit me! Omg, I can do his over and over and the girl won't even call the police unless I do some really outrageously dumb shit that nobody should do anyway!" That realization alone will help you grow confidence. Over time, you learn how to calibrate. You learn to know when a girl is interested, vs. when she'…
/r/seduction25/02/25 03:16 PM
2

A young male lover of an older woman. She does not intend to marry him or get into a relationship. It's strictly sexual. And it's a temporary arrangement. He's her "toy" lover or "boy toy."
/r/seduction24/02/25 10:02 PM
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Quit making out a bit earlier. Tell her these wonderful words: "I'm hungry. Let's go for food!" Then take her straight home. "I can make wonderful Italian food for you!" (means frozen pizza obviously). You can ofc also make a pit-stop at some restaurant, up to you, but then get her to your place. Take a cab to shorten the time. If you're already making out with her, stop before she gets satisfied. As you know, if the girl gets validated or satisfied, she'll just leave you. Instead, stop a bit be…
/r/seduction24/02/25 12:43 AM
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Can you show on this teddy bear where the HB10 hurt you?
/r/seduction24/02/25 12:38 AM
2

She only gets to farm attention if you act like a pussy and never escalate. It's a bid for escalation, though, and that's when things get really exciting.
/r/seduction24/02/25 12:36 AM
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I always entertain women like that, by getting them alone and kissing them passionately. There is no better entertainment for the both of us.
/r/seduction24/02/25 12:36 AM
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I have the exact same thing with a girl. Or had. She still shoots daggers when I flirt with other women. Yet she's running off with a guy of her own. It's insane. I messed up, because I got her alone early but didn't seal the deal cuz she's got a husband and children and I didn't want to be "that guy". So then she just started flirting with others. Lesson learned. Now I'll just seal the deal no matter if she's married or not, cuz if it's not me, then it's somebody else - and it's her choice. So,…
/r/seduction23/02/25 10:42 PM
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To them you're a boy toy. Play the part of the boy toy. Women react to confidence first and foremost. If you lie, it's because you don't have confidence, and if they find out, that's a huge turn-off.
/r/seduction23/02/25 01:02 PM
1

Why would I be LARPing? The more important question is, why is it outside your entire reality that women can be into you? What's holding you back from hitting the gym and updating your wardrobe - and most importantly - working on your inner game, so also you can experience similar things? I think if you just got to experience half of what I do on a daily basis, you'd soil yourself. Check my post history if you want to learn.
/r/seduction23/02/25 12:44 PM
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I went on a date with this girl, and the waitress acted really weird when I was around. She walked by with a tray of glasses, so I smiled at her. Then it happened. She tripped and fell, glass splintering everywhere on the floor. She was flustered and red in the face and my date looked very suspiciously at me. No, I won't approach other women while on a date, but ... I might make a few girls a bit flustered when my date looks the other way.
/r/seduction23/02/25 02:15 AM
1

THey both dressed lesbian if that's what you mean, so one was more butch than the other, but once they got their clothes off, a girl is a girl bro.
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:42 PM
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My lesbian roommate came home with a new girl. I opened the door in my knickers. They started flirting and invited me to her room..... Yes, a bit awkward the day after, but all in all I'm super happy that I did it! I mean how often do you get to have a no strings attached threesome with two hot lesbians?
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:39 PM
1

Mystery Method is pretty outdated tbh. He called quick pulls "fools mate" because he sucked at doing it himself, and because it wouldn't give him a gf. Moreover, there are quick pull experts out there who don't need a gf, because all they do is to quickly pull a girl when they want sex. I'm one of those guys. But you can easily turn a quick pull into a gf if she's willing. It's kind of a number's game tho. Some are not looking for something serious, others are. You will only find out by checking…
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:35 PM
1

I call this the Adventure Opener. Because I usually get fast pulls by going over, being really charming and enthusiastic, grabbing her hand and going "Hey wanna go for an adventure?" There's way more to this opener than this, but that's the gist of it. For one it requires massive amounts of good feelings and confidence and balls, and if you don't already have that, then she's gonna say no, and harshly. So, I wouldn't use it unless you're already very comfortable at opening girls, and very good a…
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:31 PM
1

Most men never get approached their entire lives. So, here's what you have to do to become that guy who gets approached. First, the physical aspects: Lose weight (or gain weight for the skinnies out there). Lift to gain muscle (will also reduce your fat, but not your weight since muscles weigh more than fat). Increase your daily activity. Go jogging if you're a complete psychopath, or get an active lifestyle with sports or dancing (much more fun than just jogging imho). Diet accordingly. (Eat mo…
/r/seduction22/02/25 07:18 PM
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I'm 45 and after I started working out and losing weight, 20 something girls check me out. In fact, before I even got my act together, I went on a date with a 20 year old girl. It was a bit awkward when we exchanged the age, but she still went on the date with me and we had an awesome time. When she heard my age, she stopped, then she said "Oh well, it's not the worst, let's just have some fun." And that was that. Now I look even better, close to BMI. My muscles are bulging. And my composure is …
/r/seduction22/02/25 06:32 PM
1

About 30 seconds from hello to let's get out of here (going for compliance first, and she was ok with it). Makeout outside (wallbang), then pull home. I lived nearby the clubs, so it's a 10 min walk, but once inside, more passion, clothes off, sexy time. Sometimes you're lucky and find women who are just dtf. This is by far my fastest pull. You can get it faster if you use the toilet. Friend of mine, Teev, was into that. But it got too common, so now bar personnel watch toilets more closely to a…
/r/seduction22/02/25 02:14 PM
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Talk don't watch. Or if you have to watch, then it's because you want to show her something. Btw. "showing" her something is a great way to escalate a bit. "Hey, c'mere, I want to show you something!" Then (important) grab her hand softly. Then lead her to whatever it is that you want to show her. Let's say it's the view. Then check out the view, but pull her a little closer and go "Don't you think the view here is nice? ... Kind of like you!" Or don't say anything, but just pull her close and m…
/r/seduction20/02/25 10:50 PM
1

Sure you would honey. Sure you would. xD
/r/seduction20/02/25 09:57 PM
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It means you spent too much time "messing around" and too little time getting down to business. A girl gets bored if you spend too long making out with her. Instead, make out for a couple of minutes max, then bring her home. Undress her. You won't get her knickers off, so just slide it to the side. Then slide it in. Or better yet, tell her "I just wanna see if it fits." It makes zero sense but the line actually works bcos she'll be curious too.
/r/seduction20/02/25 01:04 AM
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A day or two? I would never pursue a serious relationship with a woman who isn't already having sex with me. Sex first. Then let's talk about how serious it can become.
/r/seduction19/02/25 01:36 AM
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Why would someone criticise you? You already know that you fucked up. If anything I think you need a hug. So... Hug! 💔 Here's what you can learn from this: Never text in affect. Never be reactive to shit like that. Text less rather than more. It would in fact have been better if you just ghosted her and started focusing on someone else. Next time, if you're in a similar situation and it feels bad, or it feels like your losing her; wait. Don't text even if you want to. Just wait. Meditate. Let yo…
/r/seduction18/02/25 11:11 AM
1

My favourite opener: Hi, do you want to go on an adventure? If yes: Grab hand. Lead out of club. Push against wall. Make out. Take her home. If no, or she balks when you start walking home: What I thought you said you were adventurous? On the way home, have her call her friends and tell them that she got tired and went home. Then tell her that she's trouble bcos she's a bad girl. But then tell her: "I love bad girls." This is push pull that will help her role-play the bad girl that goes home to …
/r/seduction17/02/25 01:47 PM
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The first 1000 approaches don't count. This is simply where you learn. What, you expect to be great at playing some musical instrument on the first try too?
/r/seduction17/02/25 01:42 PM
1

I fucked her.
/r/seduction14/02/25 12:19 AM
5

Look at you. Of course you do. :)
/r/seduction11/02/25 08:42 PM
1

I disagree. And I base this disagreement on observation, particularly on observation of butt ugly men doing great with women due to really knowing game and having a great and positive energy. With that said, if your outside is ugly, then see what you can do to improve it. New wardrobe tends to help. Dieting and working out too, within reason. Then - when you feel a bit better about yourself (cuz that's really what your impression of your outside is all about), then approach women only when you f…
/r/seduction11/02/25 07:36 PM
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Idk but I think American tourists are easy compared to Norwegian girls. And Norwegian girls are known to be easy, while Swedish girls tend to want a date first. I like French girls tho. Omg si féminin ! And because they take intrigue and infatuation to another level. You can't really say anything about Europe as a whole. It's a bunch of widely different cultures and nations.
/r/seduction11/02/25 06:56 PM
2

Yesterday I got thrown under the bus for $1000 a month, by a guy who said yes to a room, so I agreed to let another go. Then another tenant called and said the house was dark due to electrical stuff, and I'll have to pay another $1000 to get it repaired. On top of this, the girl I've been seeing snuck out with another man from the dance... You bet I bought a Eurojackpot ticket when all this happened on the same day. The difference between me and you is, I approach anyway, so - even tho I lost th…
/r/seduction11/02/25 06:49 PM
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If you're that bad at interacting with women, probably just stay home and watch PornHub. If you don't know when to stop before you cross boundaries, that's on you bro. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't push boundaries within socially safe margins. What's keeping you from getting laid is most likely that you don't even dare to go over and talk to her. Nobody can arrest you for just talking to some chick, unless you say stuff that's out of this world. So stop being a pussy and start approaching…
/r/seduction11/02/25 06:42 PM
3

You should probably do some math on lottery probability, vs. getting good at social interactions, and what some simple psychological tricks can do for you in terms of giving you a huge social advantage in the wild.
/r/seduction11/02/25 06:40 PM
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Women are only ruthless when you don't know how to approach in the right way. And this has got everything to do with energy and intention (and some psychology), and very little to do with looks. Learn how to read and interpret body language, and learn how to calibrate, and you'll notice who's into you before they have to "manually" reject you, and way before they have to get rude with you or get physical. Knowing when to stay and when to eject before you get called names is the art of being smoo…
/r/seduction11/02/25 04:32 PM
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Catch 22: You can only learn to read body language by engaging with other people, and trying to push boundaries. At one point you'll push it too far and you're called a creep. No problem. You just learned something. Then you dial it back a notch or two on the next approach, and you were seen as boring so that didn't work either lol. So you dial it back up a little come the next approach, and suddenly you hit the sweet spot and get laid. It's all about calibration.
/r/seduction11/02/25 04:29 PM
2

It depends how you approach them.
/r/seduction11/02/25 04:27 PM
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I didn't start approaching before I was like 18. I made out with my first girl the same year, and lost my virginity at 21. A little late, but well inside the bell curve. People say "don't be desperate" but I can promise you that I was desperate as hell with this one girl, and she liked it.
/r/seduction11/02/25 04:26 PM
2

I've got the opposite experience. Talk only about relationships and sex. If you know what you're talking about, this will trigger not only attraction but also curiosity. So, women will test you out. By that I mean, you cannot brag about sex. This is a turnoff. You cannot joke about sex. This is also a turnoff, with a caveat, because if you're an inside man, you will know how to joke about sex in a way that women likes. If you wonder about this, look up Tyler Durden's article on the Secret Societ…
/r/seduction04/02/25 02:30 PM
4

By having balls and charm. Most balk at the prospect of approaching at the gym, but it's totally possible if you're subtle.
/r/seduction04/02/25 02:27 PM
6

I know solid advice when I see it, and this is solid advice.
/r/seduction04/02/25 02:25 PM
5

Dude, I've done extensive research and met some lovely women. The problem was never that I didn't find the one. The problem is that they didn't think that I was the one. And that's pretty much outside of my control. At this point, if I meet someone who's half-interested in staying longer than a night with me (and isn't obese or barren), then I'm all in buddy. So F your dumb take. It doesn't work unless you're top 5% man anyway. Us normal peeps, we need to take what we can get.
/r/seduction02/02/25 02:24 PM
1

I once met up with a friend of mine. I told him in advance to dress up, and informed him about the dress code. He arrived in a bloody hoodie and cargo pants... Yeah, no surprise, he didn't get into the place we were going to and ended up in one of the sausage-fest places instead. But no matter, I was just having a beer with him that's all, but if he had any class, we'd have gotten a beer AND be talking to some smoking hot chicks as well.
/r/seduction01/02/25 10:15 PM
5

London: Probably a blend of tourism, high prices, girls getting what they want out of life from other places such as apps. Plus if it's a low-status place, women won't want to go there. Solution: Get into the more high-flying clubs (usually more difficult to get into, and you may have to get a table and order bottle service). The trick: Get a bunch of friends and split the bill. Make sure they're polite guys who have a bit of class. Even better if you can also invite some girls along. You'll not…
/r/seduction01/02/25 04:34 PM
8

Why are you being such a dick? Invite him to NY then! Show him the ropes, don't just brag about it.
/r/seduction01/02/25 04:06 PM
1

Haha trust me this isn't just a brown thing.
/r/seduction31/01/25 12:53 PM
1

Brent Smith used to have a YouTube channel. Not sure if it's still live. He also had a really awesome podcast. He's most famous for not ever asking for her number (he only ever gives out his own), and for Being The Mayor; a way to "lord" a full room of people by talking to everyone just socially, and then talk to the women after if they are into him. (Look for IOIs when you are "The Mayor" and then talk to women who "hover" after. And then just assume that they wanna go home with you, bcos if th…
/r/seduction26/01/25 12:29 AM
1

I do, actually, yes. As in many of the old techniques found in MM. Especially his tech on placement. But "who lies more, men or women" I only use ironically. Generally, I just use his gambits for fun and for shits and giggles, never because I want to achieve anything other than having fun. A lot of MM is pseudo-science bs, but it's still gonna get you laid. Obviously I've changed a lot since 2005, though. My bread and butter these days is "Brenting" i.e. the (Anti-PU) social strategies of Brent …
/r/seduction26/01/25 12:06 AM
1

This is a foolish comparison. The only thing that matters is this: Does she want to see you again in person? If she doesn't then no amount of details is gonna fix that. This is why I never bother asking her for her number. Instead I ask her if she wants to see me again. (If she's vague or skittish when you ask this, that's the "no" you're looking for. A woman who wants to see you again won't hesitate. But women almost never want to say "no" directly. Instead they'll avoid the question.) Then I s…
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:39 PM
2

Well, I guess you'll have to do the same as all those American Tik-Tok'ers then. ;)
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:14 AM
2

Zero change. I never pulled off a dating app. Doesn't matter how "good" the pictures are. I'm just not pretty on pictures. But I have a certain charm that women find irresistible. And that can only be experienced IRL.
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:11 AM
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This is not true. They're only repelled by men without balls. I've gotten some of the hottest girls by being really desperate, but in the sense that I desperately did everything I could to get intimate with them (obviously within legal bounds guys, don't be stupid). Desperation gave me "balls" but not because I was this confident man. It gave me "balls" for all the wrong reasons. But it still worked! Only later did I learn to harness confidence, and - tbh - it's a way better position to be in. B…
/r/seduction17/01/25 03:48 AM
1

Escalation isn't about signals. It's about having balls. You make a move. Then you calibrate. Women respect a guy who's got the balls to make a move.
/r/seduction14/01/25 11:47 AM
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i wasn’t needy with her nor push for sex, I was playful and looking for the long game. This is where you failed. You treated her like a bro while she was just wishing that you'd escalate and stuff her. She made the effort but got no pay. Women always ruthlessly punish such behaviour. Get better at creating sexual tension and escalating when you get her alone. This is the only thing women respect. If she doesn't want that, then you haven't properly raised sexual tension 99 percent of the time, so…
/r/seduction13/01/25 03:48 PM
2

Girl ghosted me after what I thought was the perfect date. There, fixed it for you. We went to a restaurant for date. First mistake. Only spend resources on a woman after sex. We were talking for 2.5h without stopping. Second mistake. Look, she probably had a great chat with you. But it wasn't exciting. It didn't tittilate her. It didn't turn her on. She can have all the best chats in the world with her gay friends. I haven't mentioned any "spicy" topics as I would usually on all my casual dates…
/r/seduction12/01/25 09:41 AM
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I have the exact opposite experience. Or, well, women want to have sex with me really fast. Often the same day, sometimes the first hour, even! But they don't want anything serious. I mean, sometimes it's just silly how fast they want sex with me. There was this 20 year old, she pitched the date right next to my apartment. Naturally, we wound up in my apartment after... But if you ever tell them that you love them, they go POOF and you never see them again.
/r/seduction04/01/25 01:08 AM
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I think you should go on more dates bro :) If you can't even get a kiss on the second date, IMHO she's wasting your time.
/r/seduction04/01/25 01:06 AM
2

Yeah, if you pay me bro. :) Look up my posting history if you want to learn.
/r/seduction03/01/25 07:08 PM
1

With that attitude, more women will flake. With the right attitude, women will be invested in you, and they will never flake. The solution is to be more outcome independent when chatting with women, while making sure that the lifestyle you lead is so attractive that she will want to seek you out first. You can ofc also try to fake this (fake it 'till you make it) by acting this out completely, and only ever give out your number, and only ever do that if the woman seems genuinely interested in yo…
/r/seduction03/01/25 07:06 PM
2

Yeah, that's me. I actually live in Romania lol but I've got this sweet hotel deal in Oslo... Also I speak both Romanian and Norwegian fluently. I must be a genius!
/r/seduction03/01/25 06:40 PM
2

It's not lower value if you come from a place of neutral value or higher value... Wait, you want examples? Ok! If you approach her and go "Omg sorry to bother you, but I just had to speak to you because you're so beautiful. May I grovel before you, oh beautiful goddess of the streets?" This would be an example of displaying lower value than her. Here's a neutral approach: "Oh, hey, do you know the time? K, thanks. Oh that's a nice purse btw. Where did you get it?" The observation hooks her, so y…
/r/seduction03/01/25 06:38 PM
2

Sorry, I know for a fact that epimpstyle has way more experience than you. I know this, because I know that he's actually practising what he preaches. I think you have a lot to learn from him, but that perhaps you're blinded by your own opinions about the world. Instead you should test those opinions, and try out epimpstyle's advice and see for yourself. I think you'll be amazed at what actually works.
/r/seduction03/01/25 06:23 PM
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You say: Hey, I just wanted you to know I really like you and I've enjoyed spending time together. I want to keep seeing you. Girl thinks: Sigh. Game over. I won. Girl says: Awww, you're so cute. This is what I've dreamt about the entire time. Now, just pay for our dinner, and then we can go shopping so you can buy me Gucci bag I know you will buy for me. I mean, you said you loved me, right? Well, then Gucci bag it is! <3
/r/seduction03/01/25 05:21 PM
1

It's pretty much worthless to worry about your age at this point. What good is that gonna do outside of making you feel worse about yourself? So, you're a late bloomer. So what? When can you do something about it? Now or never? Instead worry about how many women you meet each day, and if you are making progress. Are you consistently asking women out? Are you consistently flirting with them, and escalating physically? Do you have a plan for what to do if she's keen on going home with you? These a…
/r/seduction02/01/25 06:21 PM
4

Unlikely. 30 is the peak for most men. My bet he's not socializing enough and not showing enough social value in venues before approaching. He's gotta talk with everyone, and then talk to the girl, not wall-flower (show lower value) and then approach the girl.
/r/seduction31/12/24 05:33 AM
2

This is a nice call. Sometimes when your date is a bit uncertain of you, they might want a second opinion from her friend. I call these friend visits "auditions" lol. So, if she's polite and asks beforehand, then - sure - invite the friend along, but only with the understanding that you will go on a private date later, just the two of you.
/r/seduction31/12/24 05:18 AM
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First of all, let's just get this out of the way: No matter the social setting, it's rude to just show up with uninvited guests. That's why you always ask beforehand if you can bring extra guests. But with that out of the way, your reaction to it is the right way to handle it. I'd probably be surprised, though, and tell the guest that "Oh, sorry, this is a private appointment. And there's only two chairs reserved for the table anyway. But thank you for escorting my date!" If my date asked to bri…
/r/seduction31/12/24 05:12 AM
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Can you be a little bit more specific? Which setting? In a club? Did you meet her at some hotel? Is she your high school crush? Do you meet regularly, and is her friend also a friend of yours? Assuming they're both strangers, befriend them both. Get her friend to trust you. At some point you might take her away from her. It's way easier of you've got a wing to talk to her friend, but you can also get her into a convo with some other dude or girl, and when she's busy with that girl, bring your gi…
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:09 AM
1

Here's what would have happened if OP chased her down: She would make a scene. The guards would notice, and they'd be on HER side. Or worse, some white knight would take her size, and he would punch OP's face in. OP has absolutely nothing to gain on escalating drama with a b*tch. Note: OP deleted his post, hopefully cuz he learned something, but I think everyone should learn that chasing down and starting drama with some girl out on the town has absolutely zero benefits.
/r/seduction30/12/24 03:03 AM
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Congratulations...This won't be the last time you experience stuff like this! That's why it's almost always a trap if the girl lets you escalate fast. She does this cuz she knows she's being watched, she knows that someone is looking after her. So she feels safe being escalated by a stranger. It's really hot for her, so she will use it to masturbate later, or as a fantasy when she goes back to her bf. Or if the next guy has better game than you. So, this is why you gotta be accepted by her gf fi…
/r/seduction30/12/24 02:57 AM
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I compliment and say she is beautiful and wanted to say hi, that's it. There are far better ways to approach in a club, but an authentic compliment can ofc also work if done right. Tho I think someone said that you telegraphed your approach too much. I think too that this is what happend. Here's what I think happened: You saw woman. Thought OMG she's hot. Then you mustered your confident, took a deep breath, and went up to her, hoping that your line would woo her. And then... You got this: The c…
/r/seduction30/12/24 02:45 AM
1

I was part of ASF Norway since back in 2005. We tried out a bunch of crazy stuff, and fast escalation and extraction was what I was best at. Unless I got the lay the same day - the same hour even - then I usually wouldn't bother pursuing it any longer. So, this stuff work, but yes, it requires balls. Or moreover, it requires enthusiasm! Like, when you know the girl is for you; that's when you go over and ask if she wants to go on an adventure. Or perhaps qualify her a bit first by asking if she'…
/r/seduction29/12/24 09:21 AM
1

What do you know for certain is massively sexy? Confidence. All men know this. Having balls. Having cojones. It shows massive confidence. And massive confidence is massively sexy and attractive. Your only problem: You don't have confidence. Solution: How do you display MASSIVE confidence? Well, you just go over to her and ask her, "Would you like to go on an adventure?" If yes, then execute. Or forever be a pussy. But you're probably worried about what will happen if she says no. Here's what I'd…
/r/seduction28/12/24 07:49 PM
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My bet: It didn't help because he just read it, but didn't bother testing any of the advice out after. You should always test stuff like this carefully and many times until you get it.
/r/seduction28/12/24 03:48 AM
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Nope. The site was taken down for unknown reasons. I think it would have been a worldwide hit personally. Well, with a different name than Project Norway I guess lol.
/r/seduction28/12/24 03:46 AM
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Either you aren't being social enough, or you don't know enough about how subtle IOIs can actually be. Work on becoming better at being charismatic and charming. Then use it to be more social. Once you interact and mingle with more people (also men cuz you want them on your side), pay attention to how the cute girls react to you when you interact with their friends or their group. If they give you IOIs, then go talk to them later, or chat them up and ask them for a date. Also read upon IOIs. The…
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:53 AM
1

Either you aren't being social enough, or you don't know enough about how subtle IOIs can actually be. Work on becoming better at being charismatic and charming. Then use it to be more social. Once you interact and mingle with more people, pay attention to how the cute girls react to you when you interact with their friends or their group. If they give you IOIs, then go talk to them later, or chat them up and ask them for a date. Also read upon IOIs. There are just sooo many of them, down to gir…
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:52 AM
1

Getting a follow means very little. What matters is if you see some post or vid or whatever that she posts. Then write something funny on it, and see if she replies. Then if she does, DM her with some more witty takes and see if she likes to chat with you. If she does, then invite her for a date.
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:49 AM
1

What he's hoping to learn from reading a seduction book? Well, it couldn't possibly be to get better at seduction, then?
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:47 AM
1

I learned a lot from it. Yes, it's just a novel, sure. But if you go out and actually test out the snippets of advice that you find in it... You'll be amazed. At least I was. But today what's in there might be mainstream and what "everyone knows." Trust me, it wasn't back in 2005. It was this book that got me hooked on PU, so I went into the rabbit hole.
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:45 AM
1

I also read The Game and Mystery Method (Venusian Artist's Handbook), and many more (Swinggcat, Gunwhitch, Zan Perrion, 60, RSD Blueprint, DDA, and many more). But for every paragraph, for every page, I took notes, and then I went out and tried the advice in practise. What did you do? Consume it like entertainment? That's not how you learn, pal. You gotta go out and actually test it out, scientifically. If you don't, you'll never really learn.
/r/seduction28/12/24 12:43 AM
1

Don't. Walk the same way as her. Pass her slightly, so you're slightly in front of her. Like a foot or two / half a metre or so. Turn your head over your shoulder and say your opener. Observations about her works very well as an opener, or something like "I just had to say hi to you" or whatever really. Then have a conversation and ask her out. This approach works better due to ingrained human psychology, where women are far less threatened by someone standing with their shoulder or back to them…
/r/seduction27/12/24 11:36 PM
2

Probably learn to play. Women think it's hot if you can sing and play.
/r/seduction27/12/24 11:31 PM
4

Next time, smile, nod and say hi. If you're in a hurry, this is enough. But if you've got the time, either ask some questions about her, if she's a tourist too, what she thinks about the town, or even stupid stuff like "man, it's really hot now huh!" or "Umm what's the time?" Better yet, ask her to help you with something, "Hey, can you help me hold this camera, I wanna take a shot for my friends back in Alabama." Then while she holds your cam, ask her other stuff and flirt with her. If the conv…
/r/seduction27/12/24 11:29 PM
1

If you can't even say hi to a woman, then you've got other problems to worry about than xp. The goal of the app is to progress beyond the open, however. If you spend all your xp just on the open, then you get really good at opening, but you're unable to progress things any further than that. Congratz you've become an opening machine... But it's low xp bcos that won't get you laid on its own. You've gotta progress for that to happen, and that's why the xp for taking it further is higher.
/r/seduction27/12/24 11:23 PM
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I participated in an app called Project Norway. It was an app made to gamify pickup and seduction. You were rewarded xp for performing a lot of tasks, and the more difficult the task, the more xp you got. So, opening a woman would give you 1 xp. Asking for her contact details (phone number etc) was 2 xp. Going for a kiss would give you 5 xp. Trying to bring her on an insta-date would also give you 5 xp, and trying to bring her home (or to a sex location) would give you 10 xp. Then you'd get 100 …
/r/seduction27/12/24 10:07 PM
1

How is Elon not hot? He's got a great sense of humour. He's freaking smart. And until he took over Twitter and turned conservative, almost everyone respected him. (Now ofc most libs hate him and conservatives love him even more - but even so a fair amount of women are still gonna wanna go for a guy like him.) I mean, even his worst enemies respect the way he lands rockets. No matter what you think about his politics, that's still a great achievement. With that said, I think you're barking up the…
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:58 PM
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You deserve more up-votes because your comment is spot on. Tho the only way most people in here know how to make women feel, is scorn lol. And just about zero of them have the ambition to actually learn the needed social skills, charisma and charm, to make women feel good around them.
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:48 PM
0

Hot take. Actually good looking and charming rich peeps date way more hot women than Elon. But since they're not "the richest and most influential man in the entire universe" the newspapers don't write as much about it. You might find a passage or two about Richard Bransons lovers, though. Either way, wtf does this help you, when you already know that you need neither looks nor money to get a great gf? The only question you should ask yourself is: Why did your ex cheat on you for that penniless …
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:44 PM
2

Nah I already did. Now we're pen pals.
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:39 PM
2

I just did bro. Find a cool guy and start hanging out with him. Then try to replicate what he does that makes him popular with the girls.
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:37 PM
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I won't ask her out more than once, but I might keep the chat going longer if it's fun. It's usually pointless, but at least it's something to do lol.
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:09 PM
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My educated opinion, based upon countless data collected over years and years of me and my PU-lair friends dating. But do as you please. Wish you the best of luck!
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:07 PM
1

Oh, I just found this hilarious thing to send her. Just one more message bro! xD
/r/seduction27/12/24 09:01 PM
5

A girl will almost never turn you down directly. She'll be vague and say that she's got her schedule packed for the next year or two, or that she's busy flossing her cat. Or whatever so she doesn't have to say to your face that she thinks you're ugly and that she'd rather spend her time fishing for slimy black eels in the Thames than spending time with you. Often she'll take a long time replying to you too, and avoid talking about it. Sometimes they love the attention, though, and you're stuck i…
/r/seduction27/12/24 08:59 PM
1

First you asked her out, and she was vague. So you "play the ball back into her court" by saying "No problem. Message me when you're ready to go on a date." Or "No problem, just message me when you find a better date." And so on. The onus is no on her to re-engage with you. Granted, the chance of her doing it is low, but if she does, then the chance of flaking is just about zero, because then she's put in effort into meeting you again - which is what you want. Meanwhile, always go meet new women…
/r/seduction27/12/24 08:54 PM
1

Here's what you should do: Pull back even stronger. Go tend to your work. Go be social. Go meet other women. Take picks doing social stuff and particularly with other women. Post them on your insta. Done. That's it. Maybe this girl will hit you up, and if not, you'll meet someone better. This is the answer.
/r/seduction27/12/24 08:33 AM
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Smash > Friendship. Smash -> Wing woman -> Threesomes.
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:38 AM
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Never ask twice. Just tell her to call/text you back when or if she's free some other time. Then go meet other women.
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:36 AM
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I kinda like it, but I mostly hate it. I will however misinterpret what women say on purpose and go "Did you just ask me out?" Or "Did you just ask if I want to kiss you?"
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:36 AM
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Let's set down some rules so life becomes easier for you: Rule number 1: Only ask once. But for God's sake, ask if you like her! (Lest you get friend zoned.) Rule number 2: Only play the ball back into her court if you really, really like her, otherwise ghost her (until you meet again organically) (if this is hard for you, immediately start meeting new women) Rule number 3: Never ever wait for a woman. In fact, never ever get into a situation where you have to wait for a woman. (But always let h…
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:31 AM
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I'm a sucker. If I really like her, I'll just keep on talking to her, polishing my flirting game, and eventually get friend zoned lol. Halp! I got no game bro.
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:28 AM
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First of all, I never invite a girl out "a couple of times." I invite her out once. If she declines, I'll play the ball into her court - if I like her. If I'm more unsure about her, I will just ghost her or friendzone her. Either way I'll be meeting new women about three seconds after that call.
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:26 AM
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Haha obvious troll is obvious. Yes, talk about incest with them. No troll, the girls will think it's hilarious. If done in the right joking way. You have no idea how dirty some girls are, and this way you'll find the dirtiest of the bunch. This is a great way to find sluts and liberated women who are easy to have sex with. (Just don't expect to become their bf tho and you're good.)
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:22 AM
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Stay friendly with them. Never escalate. Never try to kiss her. Never flirt with her. Be a little needy. Ask her to be your girlfriend without escalating physically first. Just follow this advice, and the girl will friendzone you in no time! :)
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:18 AM
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Tried it loads of times too, so I know it works.
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:15 AM
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How to be charismatic and cool. And how it's possible to say certain things, and still be perceived as cool. And how it's possible to escalate very fast, without it putting the woman off. Some of the things are very hard to verbalize. The best way to learn is to befriend a really cool and popular dude who pulls a lot of girls. Then hang out with him, and try to mimic what he does. Try to replicate his reasoning behind it, and then do it yourself - with the same energy and aura. You won't get awa…
/r/seduction27/12/24 07:12 AM
1

A friend of my was The Popular Kid At School™. He dated all the nicest top tier girls. He was always monogamous, but he would never date a girl longer than three months at a time. Then he went to the next one. He wasn't super good looking, tho he wasn't unhealthy either, but he was always charming and cool to everyone. And forward, and a bit touchy. He usually got his way, and by the time we ended Upper Secondary school, he'd dated two football teams of cute girls, so he joked around with inviti…
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:51 AM
1

It's the same dynamic on Tinder. Only the top 5% of men get laid there. If you're like top 1% or above, sure, I bet you could charge for your attention. I mean, in Japan male escort isn't that uncommon of a profession. I bet it's going on also in the West, just that we don't hear about it as often.
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:45 AM
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I've seen the same with my dad, except he doesn't look good at all lol! He can probably charm a rock, though.
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:44 AM
1

Depends. My favourite routine back when I still did dumb PUA stuff was to go over to a girl in the club and ask her "Hey, would you like to go on an adventure?" If yes, I'd take her outside of the club, make out with her, and then take her straight home (I lived within walking distance to the clubs back then). However the outside step is optional. It's fully possible to just make out once you get home. On the way I'd ask her to call her friends and tell them that she got tired and went home. Aft…
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:29 AM
2

At some point I'll ask where she's from. Say she's from Boston, and we're in New York or whatever. I might not do it right then and there, but at some point I'll tell her, "You know what, I've never met a girl from Boston who's a good kisser..." It's a challenge. She'll most likely deny it, and claim that she's a great kisser. Then simply smile and tell her "Prove it!" (Even if she says she's a horrible kisser, you can still ask her to prove it, and then tell her to really show you what a bad ki…
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:24 AM
1

I like this. It's a great idea to reward a woman's high points with touch. I also like the flirting ideas here, with the "are you a pro weight lifter" kinda schtick. "Are you a pro wrestler?" Then dive her into the sofa, "wrestle" with her, and... make out with her and... oh boy! Edit: Sometimes when I walk next to a woman and it gets a little boring, I like to walk closer and closer to her, so she is steered into obvious obstacles like lamp posts, fire hydrants or city decoration. Then when she…
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:14 AM
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Here's a trick. If the date is going well, at some point you want to show her something, or you need to take her somewhere. Then simply grab her hand and say "C'mere! I gotta show you XYZ." XYZ being whatever you want to show her. Another version of this, is you want to be a little galant, and take care of her. Say you want to escort her over a busy road. Just go "Watch it!" Then grab her hand and again go "C'mere!" And lead her over the way, or around some obstacle, or - maybe there's a pit of …
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:10 AM
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I think this is a great description of how to break the touch barrier, with great explanations and good reasoning behind it. Thank yoU!
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:04 AM
4

I tried this with the police woman who arrested me. Man, I hit the floor so hard!
/r/seduction27/12/24 12:01 AM
0

Hehe it's always fun when you're not able to change the sheets in time. Just know that she's most likely not going to notice. And if she does, it'll just trigger her spirit for competition.
/r/seduction26/12/24 12:42 AM
1

Don't ever ask for her number. Don't even ask for her Insta, Fb or other bs things. The only thing you want to find out is this: Does she want to see you again? Because if she wants to see you again, then the contact details will be an afterthought. And where this happens the most, is up to your personal comfort; i.e. where you feel the most comfortable, in a bar, on the street, wherever, doesn't matter. Contact details are just a means to and end, and that's why the amount of phone numbers you …
/r/seduction25/12/24 04:04 PM
2

No, then I'm asking for directions bcos I'm lost. Also, nice dog btw.
/r/seduction22/12/24 03:06 AM
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Hate to break it to you, but I don't think he was hitting on you. He was probably interested in the dog. Sometimes when I see an interesting dog breed, I'll strike up a conversation no matter if I'm attracted to the woman or not. Me wondering if some ingredient is good in my soup: Hey, just wondering if this ingredient is good in soup? Her: I got a boyfriend you know.
/r/seduction18/12/24 05:46 PM
2

Hip Hop is pretty old so I wouldn't worry about it. But it's not exactly a sensual pair dance. either.. IMHO do Hip Hop for your own pleasure. Then do pair dance - where you can incorporate Hip Hop moves - to meet women. Why pair dance? Well, isn't it obvious? You get to hold her close and flirt with her a little. Great in classes where they switch dance partners all the time, for instance. You get to meet a ton of women. Like elsewhere, some are taken, but many are not. And many are into the sc…
/r/seduction18/12/24 01:30 AM
2

Salsa, Bachata, Swing: Just take a few classes to see which one you like best. I'm not into Salsa myself, but I've heard it's a bit more of a man-eater culture there, so take that for whatever it's worth.
/r/seduction18/12/24 12:09 AM
0

How about neither? Don't hide your sexuality, but don't be this simp either. Just have a normal conversation about sexual preferences in a non-judgemental way. She'll open up to you. Moreover, if you're chill about sex, she'll know that you're competent. (Cuz you're competent, right?) If you're not competent, then find some books on how to get better in bed, and also about female sexual fantasies. Tho simply by being competent and being able to speak about it in a matter-of-fact and non-judgemen…
/r/seduction18/12/24 12:07 AM
4

I started dieting and hitting the gym, and it was magical. I've met 20-somethings throwing themselves at me. And I mean unbelievably hot girls. Ofc fix wardrobe. Learn some game. And fix inner game. Learn to visualize like the pros. Really go into meditation. That shit actually works, and if you want I can tell some of the things I experienced when I first started experimenting with that stuff. And get an active hobby. Personally I dance. It's fun. It keeps you in great shape without having to s…
/r/seduction16/12/24 10:24 PM
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If you're a man, it's quite good until you're in your late 40's. Most guys peak in terms of attractiveness at 30, so getting into a new relationship then is pretty easy IMHO. And if you like cougars, you're gonna have the time of your life. If you like younger chicks, you're gonna have to step up your game or "be handsome" or "be rich". I'm very handsome myself. But every once in a while you'll meet someone who'll just come running after you even if she's super hot and 20. Nay-sayers will claims…
/r/seduction16/12/24 10:10 PM
2

ABS: Always Be Social. xD But srsly always "mingle" and chit-chat with people. Also men. The next conversation could be the one that changes your life forever. It could be that million dollar contract, or that swimsuit model hookup. If you're "that social dude" women will also be much more receptive to you, bcos you're no longer that creepy guy who tries to approach everyone. Instead you become this chill, cool social dude who makes everyone feel good. So, if you don't know small-talk, then lear…
/r/seduction15/12/24 01:34 PM
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I just don't have time for in person cold approaches I call bullshit and I think you're just making excuses. Most likely you're just afraid of the social pressure, or of getting rejected in person. If you're in school, there's no better place for meeting women casually. And there are ways of doing it that does not take extra time, and that does not put you in awkward situations where you risk being rejected. If you're interested, look up how to be more social (while still saving time), and how t…
/r/seduction14/12/24 02:23 PM
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No. What you're doing is comparing yourself to others. Never do that. OTOH you might need this to get things going again, and not feel so bleeping bad about yourself. Also, women can smell it when your d got wet. A recently juiced d turns them on.
/r/seduction13/12/24 12:38 AM
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I mean, it's more of a scale. Can't get it up for her: No go. Can get it up for her, but would feel bad presenting her to your friends: Shouldn't go, but might smash anyway if she doesn't seem needy. Can defo get it up for her, but she's fugly, but cool, and you could be maybe ok presenting her to your friends: Defo smash. It gets up for you, and she's hella hot: Do I really need to paint this picture?
/r/seduction13/12/24 12:36 AM
2

And some women have no choice either. Fat girls need lovin' too!
/r/seduction13/12/24 12:33 AM
2

Your biggest problem is really how to learn to let them down easy. That's the biggest problem with smashing someone you're not really into. Sometimes they make it easy for you, though, because they know the diff themselves. Just avoid those who you feel are way too needy and it's ok.
/r/seduction13/12/24 12:31 AM
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Body type matters a lot. I have way better sex with women I'm actually attracted to. But sometimes I meet women who just want to smash, and... Well, I'm not gonna say no, am I! But I might not say yes to dating her further. Will this fix your problem of longing for something more? No. No, it won't son. That's the only argument I have for not doing it. But it'll quell the thirst for a time. It'll calm you down for a bit. And that's worth something, albeit not being 100 % fulfilling.
/r/seduction13/12/24 12:30 AM
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Is she cute? If she is, then it's easier. Go to a club. Scope the place for candidates together (this is a great hobby btw). Then go up to the first girl you like, strike up a conversation, and then tell her honestly: "So, I'm out with my girl, and we think you're really cute. Why don't you come meet her!" Then let them talk a bit, and escalate a bit together, then either ask her out of the club for food, or - if it gets really hot in the club - just tell her that you'd rather finish the convers…
/r/seduction12/12/24 05:43 PM
0

NGL you sound like a loser. Unless you're like 60 or something. And even then there are girls who love old guys if they're still healthy.
/r/seduction12/12/24 02:12 AM
1

too loud This is positive and easy to get around, for instance with using your eyes seductively, using touch more, smiling, doing silly miming that creates a connection between just you and her, and by dancing with her. too dark etc This is positive too, because it makes it easeier to get intimate with her without her feeling judged. The only downside is that you might not see that she's an ug before you wake up with her the next morning lol. But at least you got to dip it! and the women that ar…
/r/seduction12/12/24 02:09 AM
1

Utter silence is not creepy. It's exciting. It's seductive. I hereby challenge you: Make out with a girl without saying a single word. This is quite an easy challenge, btw. If you want a better one, take a woman home for sex without speaking a single word. This is possible, because I've done it myself and also I've seen friends do it. It's possible. Go conquer!
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:37 AM
1

I think you're onto something. In clubs, I'll get eye contact first. Then she'll suddenly be in my arms. And then I'll bring her outside and make out with her. It's hard to explain how this happens, but I'll just walk around in the club, get some good eye contact with a girl, and then I'll just stretch out my arms, and she'll jump in. Then I'll take her somewhere and make out with her. From there I'll start to talk with her, and tell her that "hey I'm hungry, let's go for food." Then we grab som…
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:35 AM
1

At the club, I think you'll be a hit if you talk about random pharma drugs. "Hey, girl. You wanna know about some random pharma drugs? Yeah, let's go outside and talk some more." You're gonna do just fine!
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:32 AM
2

Potato's what? Also, what's wrong with carrots?
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:29 AM
5

But I thought you were a trillionaire!
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:27 AM
1

I don't get how you can get up-voted for making an un-supported claim, and then asking for a DM.
/r/seduction10/12/24 03:24 AM
2

Let's see... How much free time you got? xD I'm not into multi myself, but my pal set the cap at four. He went up to eight a week but told me it was exhausting, so he cut it back to juggling only four a week, and that worked fine for him. He has no other hobbies though. This was full on sexual relationships tho, not just "talking."
/r/seduction04/12/24 03:08 PM
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One more thing. You have absolutely zero reason for being mad at her. If anything, be mad at your own dumb expectations. Because you have zero right to expect anything out of her. At all! She's entitled to say no if she's approached by some weirdo. (And frankly, you were acting pretty weird here lol - but we're gonna fix that!) Much less one who doesn't even have to balls to speak to her normally, and instead has to write a note to her... (That's what we're gonna fix. You're gonna approach the n…
/r/seduction03/12/24 02:26 PM
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I've never approached a girl in the street before That's fine. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. clearly asked them if they wanted me Please don't ask if they want you. That's needy bordering on grovelling. It sets them up as the prize, when you should be the prize. Instead, focus on "giving" rather than "taking". The goal is to have a nice conversation where you insert a flirt or two, or bust her balls a little (not too much), and where the both of you share a nice and fun moment. From there, i…
/r/seduction03/12/24 02:14 PM
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How do you know she wants a relationship? Has she told you? Why didn't you tell her about your ambition up front? Here's how I get into FWB relationships: Date as normal. Have sex. Never bring up a relationship. If she brings up a relationship and asks me, I'll tell her that I think she's a really great person, and that I'll always treat her right, but that I'm really sorry because simply can't commit to anything serious right now. The rest is up to her, really. Most men are afraid of verbalizin…
/r/seduction30/11/24 08:50 AM
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Keep on teasing. Keep on discussing sex in a competent way. (If you're not competent, then become competent - plenty of good books, classes and courses on the topic, for instance.) Then tell her: Hey girl, we're good friends, so you know I'd never fuck you over, but I'd love to fuck you over and over. ;) Stolen from Johnny Soporno. This particular line is just a fun joke, so it's not the line itself that will change things, but your general frame, attitude and competence. So, what I'm telling yo…
/r/seduction27/11/24 03:18 PM
1

Next time try to make a statement about her. Obviously don't be mean or impolite, but make an observation, and then state the observation you made. Say she's got pink hair: "Ah, pink hair. Nice. You look just like a goth rocker!" This is what's known as a mini cold read. It's an observation or small statement about her. Moreover, it doesn't matter if it's true. In fact, if you make it wrong on purpose, you'll make her protest. And then you can tease her about it a bit. "Ahaha, oh yeah? Well, I b…
/r/seduction26/11/24 03:33 PM
2

Sounds like you're staying platonic. If you're platonic, they're gonna be platonic too. Stop being platonic. Ask her out. Or in the least check if she'll spend time alone with you, hang out with you, etc. If she does, that's a good sign. Bust her balls a bit, be flirty, give her a hard time (but in a friendly and playful way, and not to be mean) Grab your balls and freaking Escalate! (Don't literally grab your balls, I meant it like "man tf up") If you're alone, do some sensual things. Start by …
/r/seduction26/11/24 03:23 PM
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Oh no! She didn't follow you back on Instagram? Oh boy, I'm afraid that's it... You might as well give her up right now. It's over bro. Jk. Follows etc means nothing. Go talk to her again, but this time grab your balls and ask her out!
/r/seduction26/11/24 03:08 PM
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Women who are ready will make it easy for you. Women who are difficult will make it difficult for you. It's your choice what you accept. As the third or fourth date came and went, I'd probably be pretty frustrated, and I'd probably wish her well on her journey to "find out" about things and "taking it slow" or whatever excuse she's using to get free dinners from you.
/r/seduction26/11/24 01:54 PM
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There's nothing wrong in being a bf. Take it from a guy who's fucked around more than most men. I've fucked hundreds of women but never been happier than when I was in a steady relationship. Now, it might depend on where you are in life, and some men like variety more than others. Whatever it is, I'm sure you'll figure it out. If you wanna be a player, be a player. Just know that it might not be all that in the end.
/r/seduction26/11/24 01:48 PM
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Moreover, he's value-scanning, which is innately low value behaviour. If he tried again after being slated as an un-cool value-scanner, he's just be rejected harder next time. Or she'll milk him for attention and try to get him to buy her drinks. Either way, it's a losing situation. The answer is to ignore her, and get busy being social and having fun. This raises your social value, and if you bump into her again, just stay cool and social. If she's got a bf, and you're just being social, tell h…
/r/seduction26/11/24 01:12 PM
1

I have some bad news for you. What I’m about to say might sting, but it’s crucial if you want to improve. You’re not coming across as cool in the club—you’re making yourself look uncool, even creepy. I’m saying this bluntly because I want to help you. If you’re ready to learn, let’s dive in. "I approached a chick at the club, got the boyfriend line, and exited. Later, I saw her looking at me." Here’s what happened: she clocked you as a loser before you approached. Why? Because standing with your…
/r/seduction26/11/24 01:02 PM
1

Yeah it's probably better that you hang back and just give them a mysterious stare. The longer you do that, the better. They'll probably talk about you a little, and wonder about your intentions. Meanwhile, you'll see me enter from the side, say hi to her. Chit chat for a bit. Then I'm either gonna leave with her, or she's gonna seek me out later (less conspicuous), then we'll make out, and she'll invite me to her place where we have sex all night long. Anyway, you got this! Just hang back in yo…
/r/seduction26/11/24 11:46 AM
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Yep, just ask her out. Like this: "Hey, you're pretty cool. Plans this weekend? Cool, wanna do xyz?" If she asks if you're asking her on a date, tell her "If you want it to be" and smile wryly.
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:33 AM
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Wick in wax. Quill in ink.
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:32 AM
1

I like to play it cool too. It's like getting a knife right through my heart, but I go, "Oh ok" while knowing that the frown on my face is giving my lie away right then and there, like a deflated balloon, where the soul just left my body. Man, despite all the women I've slept with, I truly hate the IHABF!
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:31 AM
0

How's your love life? This is a field tested line. Just ask how her love life is. Then have a discussion about it. She'll say something like "Well me and my bf has a great time" or "omg thank you for asking, wanna come home to me?" Ok, the last one is a joke, but you get the idea. She'll start telling you about her love life, or lack thereof. And then you'll know! Best of all, if she's single - and she indicates that she's perhaps looking, or having a hard time - then you can sympathise. "Ah... …
/r/seduction25/11/24 12:27 AM
0

Because men are often delusional, and will interpret things to their advantage just to get the girl they like, and downplay that they actually sabotaged the game for their "friend". There was this one guy who would constantly butt into my conversations with hot women, and try to steal them from me. At first I'd try to hint at him. Second I tried to give him a straight up warning to stop interfering. Third I knocked him out with a punch to the face and our "friendship" ended for good. Good riddan…
/r/seduction17/11/24 01:15 PM
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Easy. He was being needy and tryhard. You were being aloof and mysterious. Of course she wanted you. Just wait until that time when you get kinda needy and your friend stays aloof. Table's gonna flip hard and hit you in the face. ;) All dogs have their day.
/r/seduction17/11/24 01:07 PM
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No, the photos are verified good. But since I want to start a family, I'm not willing to meet women over 35. That kinda limits my options online since I'm 45 and ageism on Tinder is just awful.
/r/seduction17/11/24 01:04 PM
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I'm fairly good looking. Or idk, the kinds of women I meet irl a so hot most other men have a hard time believing it. On OLD I get crickets tho. Some girl told me I have like this aura, and that it just doesn't translate over photos. Idk.
/r/seduction17/11/24 02:18 AM
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The "can't find quality women at bars or clubs" trope is bs. All kinds of people go to these places. That means that there are all kinds of girls there, both good or bad. Thing is, you have to engage with them over time to get to know them. That means, yeah, first night might be a casual hookup. But then you start dating or hanging out, and that's when things get serious.
/r/seduction17/11/24 12:33 AM
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Because whatever you're writing isn't reaching into their heart or soul. I'm not good at that stuff either. That's why I meet women irl.
/r/seduction17/11/24 12:26 AM
1

Ok bro xD Beleive what you want...
/r/seduction16/11/24 02:57 PM
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Are you married then? Been with a girl in over three months?
/r/seduction16/11/24 10:48 AM
4

Only once, after maybe more than 500 girls, I met one who wanted to be with me and didn’t play games. All was great but then she started pressuring to get married and have kids, which made me realize she was viewing me more as a tool to achieve what she wanted than being “in love”. Anyways, it was always “working out” for the rest but never for me. That was it. That was your chance. You blew it. You're not her tool. You're the tool of your children, who needs you to survive. If you aren't willin…
/r/seduction16/11/24 10:46 AM
2

Yes. Focus on having fun. Meditate. Visualize. Be enough in your own body. Then have brass balls and go talk to some woman, and ask her to join you outside the club and then make out with her and take her home. Then try to do it faster next time.
/r/seduction16/11/24 01:32 AM
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I only get scammers, fat and ugly chicks on OLD. IRL I get freaking models. It's completely nuts. I stopped going out for many years, but picked it up again the last few years. OLD: Crickets. Disappointment. I really went for it hard. After one year I gave up. Meanwhile, I'd go to a club or whatever, and I'd join these extremely hot women. Ofc none of these things have ever lasted, but... I mean, even I'm wondering how the hell I can pull so hot women. And so young compared to me, at 45.
/r/seduction16/11/24 01:12 AM
2

50 approaches is nothing. The first 1000 approaches don't even count. You can't learn anything by repeating the same mistake 50 times. You have to really apply yourself to learn. My only advice is: Make sure you keep it a fun activity, or you're gonna burn out fast.
/r/seduction16/11/24 01:08 AM
1

If you have to ask this question, then probably not. Anyway, I do it all the time, and it's no problem. Because I'm handsome.
/r/seduction14/11/24 06:47 PM
1

Sounds like you've got this. The only thing I'd suggest now is really to get more comfortable talking earnestly about sexual fantasies, without making fun of them, and with genuine curiosity. Even if you're not that sexually experience, earnest curiosity will go a long way. And it will open up women to want to try out more things with you. If you haven't tried that particular thing, tell her, "No, I haven't tried that... How is it?" At the very least she'll explain it to you, but at best she mig…
/r/seduction12/11/24 09:09 PM
2

Idk about penis, but women sure has touch my bum a lot through the years... This one time, a desperate woman at work put her hand on my thigh after telling me she was having fights with her husband. I can't even...
/r/seduction08/11/24 12:15 AM
5

The guy she likes is most likely a handsome chad and not some normal dude. If you're normal, you'd still have to work for every girl like before, even if more girls were forward. ;)
/r/seduction07/11/24 11:27 AM
1

Just the odd this is where we're going, and what a great night it is, and tell me about yourself. Stuff like that. Some role-play. It's always a good idea to have her call her friends and tell them that "sorry, I got tired so I went home." When she's done lying to them, award her for this behaviour by telling her that she's a bad news bad gurl, but that you love bad girls. ;) This sets up the mood, because it casts you as the guy who will also accept her slutty side - so she feels much more comf…
/r/seduction07/11/24 01:52 AM
2

You don't have to be good looking to be social and cool. And women would much rather have a social and cool average looking guy, than a really awkward great looking guy.
/r/seduction07/11/24 01:46 AM
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If she pushes back, you can just pat yourself on the back, bcos then you've actually done your job. Perhaps too well, but that's how you learn. So, just ease back a bit. Stop the eagerness for a while. Dial it back a few notches. Then wait. Does she stay and talk? Well, then it's no harm done! Plus, now she knows what you want for sure. So, when things ease up a little, like in a few minutes later (hour tops), then just try again. Have her watch something so she'll have to sit real close to you,…
/r/seduction06/11/24 03:09 AM
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Having her talk is good. And not revealing too much about yourself creates a sense of mystery about you which is also good. So, don't worry too much about it. Obviously, you've gotta say something, but in these situations you can also milk the silence a bit (but not too much or it just gets awkward). You probably failed at escalation because you didn't create sexual tension first. This kind of tension might even feel a bit uncomfortable for you, but it should be kinda good as well. Like, you kno…
/r/seduction06/11/24 02:54 AM
1

Ah, yes, the echo technique :) What would you say and do when you met girls in person? How would you approach them? Just man up, and go straight up, or build value first?
/r/seduction05/11/24 10:00 PM
2

Ok, so a new one every other week. It's not exactly hareem time, but it's ok within reason if you live in the West. What was your favourite technique?
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:23 PM
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Same here. 45 year old here. And I need to meet reasonably fertile women due to wanting a family. So, since Tinder is out (most women cap their age at 35 there, so for me it's crickets no matter how great my profile is), and since there are limits to how big my social group can be (and how hard I can pump it before being ousted as that sleazy dude), then cold approaching it is. With that said, the difference from SoMe to Cold Approach is an old and very unattractive woman, to a 25 year old hotti…
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:16 PM
1

Challenged by what, exactly? Social circle game? Are you ready to make a ton of friends and arrange parties every weekend? Are you that kind of guy already? Do you have it in you to become that guy? If not, then I'm afraid social circle might not be for you, or it's certainly limited what you can get out of it. If you're good looking then get on Tinder. But do me one favour and don't advice worse looking guys that that's the end-all solution. It's a solution for good looking guys, and that's abo…
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:10 PM
2

What do you mean by ridiculous? Like lesbians were actively jealous of you when they weren't in threesomes with you ridiculous? Or just two dates a week kinda ridiculous?
/r/seduction05/11/24 09:02 PM
1

About 15 minutes form meet to bang. I saw. I took her home. We banged. I saw her lone-wolfing the club I was in. She was at a ledge overlooking the club, and looking at the people below. That's when I caught her eye, and she smiled, so I went straight up there. We briefly introduced, then I took her hand and asked her "Do you want to go on an adventure?" She said yes, and so I took her straight home. Given that I lived only a few minutes down the street at the time, we were there in less than fi…
/r/seduction05/11/24 10:26 AM
1

It's only fools mate if you're looking for a girlfriend bro. A lot of peeps just want to bang.
/r/seduction05/11/24 10:24 AM
2

I think you gave a very thoughtful answer. I'd just like to add that I think you're ready for the works and talks of Zan Perrion. Seek, and ye shall find! All the best!
/r/seduction26/10/24 09:05 PM
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It sounds like you've put a lot of thought into analysing delivery and social dynamics. That kind of dedication to understanding social interactions is commendable. I'm curious though - when you focus on delivery as the key factor, isn't that similar to treating the symptom rather than the underlying cause? It feels like putting a band-aid on a broken bone while avoiding the need for a proper cast. It seems like focusing purely on delivery might be similar to an actor who knows their lines perfe…
/r/seduction26/10/24 04:44 PM
2

Oh and remember to smile :) Then go over. Nice article!
/r/seduction26/10/24 04:12 PM
1

When you look at statistics, 5 dates isn't that bad. To be sure, you've got room for more, but it's better than how most men do, unless they're chads or naturals. Also, the fact that you're doing something with this, means I'm fairly certain that you'll be able to improve these numbers soon. So, you have a bigger chance at meeting the one (if that's indeed what you're looking for). Statistically speaking, most men only have 3 to 7 sexual partners through-out their lifetime. (!) Let that sink in.…
/r/seduction26/10/24 02:13 PM
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I hope you do not mind me saying this, but you sound like you've got Aspergers. Have you taken some reputable online tests? (Apparently they don't call it that anymore either, but I still find the term helpful.) They might shed light on it before you contact a professional. Knowing might also help you cope with, and understand a lot of social "codes" as it were. Being suspicious of these things myself, I've taken some tests. I got quite high scores, but they didn't tip over. So, I've concluded t…
/r/seduction26/10/24 02:12 AM
1

Challenge for you: Spin her around. No words. Just a smirk and your eyes. Then go straight for the kiss. It can be done.
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:29 PM
2

7s? Man, I wish! 5s and 6s bro. Or below. Meanwhile I go out and find straight 9s. You freaking won't believe the kind of Ig girls I've banged. Some girl told me I got a special aura. Like, that my physical photo looks aren't all that, but that my IRL aura is really attractive. Idk.
/r/seduction24/10/24 07:27 PM
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Having done A LOT of club game, I can full well say that this post is kinda gold. I'd add in, if you're at the dance floor, grab her hand early, or touch her arm and sensually slide down to her hand and take it when you're ready to dance. Does this risk rejection? Sure. But you want rejection fast, so you can move to someone who's dtf. Make the ho say no. Don't berate her for it. Thank her for saving you time. Or just go "Ah, no problem, I'll leave you alone." Taking this risk is still worth it,…
/r/seduction24/10/24 12:08 PM
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This is absolutely my most common experience too. I'd do everything in the post above. Add in that I have the best photos and profile. And when I say something witty, they go "haha" or if I ask how they're doing they go "good". Great. Ok, I'll just go to town and get drunk. At least there I'll get sloppy makeouts. Honestly, I've given up on OLD completely due to all these duds. The few dates I got to OLD were women way below my league. Meanwhile on the town I get 20-somethings that look like mod…
/r/seduction24/10/24 11:38 AM
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Try to just get to know a girl without hitting on her. Just be friends with her. But make sure you have fun, and use a bit of kino anyway. And tease her in between. But never to get her to bed. Only to have fun. If there's sexual tension, just let there be sexual tension. Just smile, bite your lower lip and wait until she comes to you. Then have a pillow fight or something. Do this for a while, and write back to me how it went.
/r/seduction23/10/24 10:05 PM
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You're letting go of a golden opportunity if you just let her hand go after shaking hers. Try it out before you say anything more. ;)
/r/seduction23/10/24 08:54 PM
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Do you just shake her hands, or do you let it linger a bit, while you hold on, but lighter, while looking into her eyes and giving her that little smirk, and then she starts caressing your hand, and you go: "So, my place or yours?"
/r/seduction23/10/24 08:45 PM
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You look like the kind of guy who listens to emo rock. yeah, it's your hairdo, for sure. It's that emo hairdo. LOLOL. Just an example. :) Make an assumption about her, based on her outfit or makeup or - but never her physical looks! This works as a mini cold read. It doesn't matter if you're wrong. Then she'll deny it, and you can tease her about it. Fuck no, I'm not a emo girl! Ah, but you are tho, look at you, tease, tease, smirk. She'll hit your shoulder, and be into you.
/r/seduction23/10/24 08:41 PM
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Depends how you approach. If you approach in a way that makes you look like the popular guy, this will just turn on the girls. If you become this beggar who goes from girl to girl, you'll just lose value in the venue. Be the popular guy who has something to offer. Talk to everyone, don't just creep on the hot girls. In fact, if there's a hot girl there, ignore her a bit. This is straight outta Mystery Method btw. Although dated his stuff is still legit. Try it and see for yourself. (Sure, many t…
/r/seduction23/10/24 08:41 PM
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Respectfully, you're mistaken. These are the original sources, particularly Mystery Method, for which hundreds of thousands of men have gotten laid, a gf or married. He asked for the source material, so naturally this material is dated, and some of it has since been debunked. But most of it is actually quite good advice, and in there are nuggets that work to this day, such as Mystery's stuff on physical positioning in relation to the girl you're trying to seduce. Today, I would perhaps start out…
/r/seduction23/10/24 01:54 AM
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Why not just touch her hand?
/r/seduction22/10/24 09:59 PM
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Kino is short for kinaesthetics, which means the study of body motion. It's not an acronym. For whatever reason it has come to mean sexual escalation through touch within the pickup community. What is the most subtle way that you use kino in order to increase sexual tension really early in an interaction (like, literally seconds into an interaction)?
/r/seduction22/10/24 08:35 PM
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Here's what you're looking for: Markovik a.k.a Mystery: The Venusian Arts Handbook Markovik a.k.a Mystery: The Mystery Method Style a.k.a. Strauss: The Rules of The Game Can also highly recommend looking up early posts by the "bad guy" of The Game, Tyler Durden a.k.a TD (real name Owen Cook).
/r/seduction22/10/24 07:32 PM
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Never saw that one. Why is it good (in terms of being a good resource for seduction)? I really liked Spread, so if that's something to go by, then I think I'll give Toy Boy a watch too!
/r/seduction22/10/24 07:19 PM
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Actually good films, series and documentaries about seduction: Don Juan De Marco Why: Because this film was originally recommended by Zan Perrion. And if you don't know who that is, you better look it up. Fun fact: He dated Monica Bellucci when she was 18. Just imagine that for a second. Second, I've actually used lines from this movie on women, and it always made them light right up. And sometimes... in places... that are private. I put this at the top because I think it's the best example of t…
/r/seduction22/10/24 07:13 PM
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This film is legit, and I can tell you why. I have a friend who does the exact thing this film is about, in that exact way. I've also done some of those things myself, but never for long periods. If you can press her motherly buttons, while at the same time tease her sexual desire, then she will give you everything. For a deeper dive into the psychology (or how far you can take this), see the documentary about Rosebudd in American Pimp.
/r/seduction22/10/24 07:06 PM
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Well, it depends. If the movie is recommended by a player, then it's probably safe to learn from it. ;) Catch 22: How do you know that you can trust the recommender? Well, here's a wager: If he's tried the stuff in person, and can explain to you why it worked (and what not to do). Either way, you're now down to decipher your interpretation of both his story, and what you see in the movie, so there's still plenty of room for error and improvement.
/r/seduction22/10/24 07:03 PM
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Nice! I like this advice. I will just get a Ferrari. I can't afford it right now, and with my minimum wage, I probably never will, but you know... Just get a Ferrari! Your problem is that you don't even enjoy the abundance you've got, because it's no replacement for what you really long for, which is deep intimacy with that one special girl. And - well, you already discovered this but - you don't get that through hookup culture. For that, you need to slow right down and relax and perhaps even da…
/r/seduction22/10/24 06:45 PM
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Peasants and popers usually worked for them, and the pretty ones usually got an extra kid due to it. Sometimes that could led to a raise, sometimes not. Or, well, it always lead to a raise... In my town of Oslo there's a monument. On the one side, the prim and proper lady housewife hand-in-hand with her top-hat-clad husband. But she's got one hand around the corner, and there she's holding the hand of an obvious working class man. You know, kind of the plot of The Departed.
/r/seduction22/10/24 06:33 PM
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This.
/r/seduction22/10/24 12:58 AM
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They were pretty tolerant in the 16th and 17th century too, at least in noble circles. This is why the concept of the First Born was so important. Because you could never really know if the second born was yours. Meditate on this for a while, will ya. ;)
/r/seduction22/10/24 12:57 AM
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I've never had that thing were you meet a girl on a night out and end up hooking up or going back to her/my place. Ever? I've had very limited interactions with women, where the convo dies or they/she give excuses to leave and i dont really know what to do to make her attracted or make things happen. So the convo dies? Did you let it die? Or did you joke around and give her small challenges? Did you make a mini-cold-read? I was at a bar and started talking with a girl, the interaction started qu…
/r/seduction22/10/24 12:50 AM
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I'll vouch for this. Have a lot of friends in the 'tending industry, and that's how they roll. It can be a pretty rough life tho, and many also end up as alcoholics later in life. Sorry for being that guy, but it's true, and you should watch out.
/r/seduction21/10/24 10:18 PM
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I'm torn on this one. He's not exactly unattractive either. He's really boring looking tho. Or maybe it's just how he talks. Tho otoh women tend to like the boring guys who knows how to talk, cuz they seem safe.
/r/seduction21/10/24 09:17 PM
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Only by guys like JA. Except JA hasn't got in-field footage picking up women last I checked. Tyler does, though. And not just one or two.
/r/seduction21/10/24 09:15 PM
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Yup far more handsome than Henry Cavill. Not even a contest.
/r/seduction21/10/24 09:14 PM
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I think everyone agrees that RSD Tyler is the most hunky dunk guy out there, far more handsome than Henry Cavill. Like, it's not even close.
/r/seduction21/10/24 09:13 PM
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You tried your best. Perhaps better pedagogy would have helped (peeps often get stumped out when they realize that - ow shit, you actually have to speak to peeps!), but IMHO some people need therapy more than they need practical in-field advice. One freebie is ok, but then tell him, if you want follow-ups, he's gotta pay for your time (unless it's a friend ofc). The least he could do was pay for your drinks that evening.
/r/seduction21/10/24 01:31 PM
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Sounds like you need Brent Smith, the lifestyle coach and not the musician. You need to find the joy in female companionship, and for that you have to let go of all the PU bs and instead focus on yourself, your inner game, your story, and not least your boundaries. For instance, if you want to meet up with a girl, make it clear that you're only ready for a purely sexual relationship right now. She'd be abusing you if she demanded a "friendship" or anything degrading like that. Use it also for ro…
/r/seduction18/10/24 01:22 PM
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Pull out your benis! Things are now sexual bro!!! /s No, don't do that, pls! Unless you're already dating and you want to pull a Superman.......... But anyway! First off, eye contact. Is it strong? Second, speech. Are you calm? Are you in your low, manly tone? Does your voice emanate from your chest or from your throat? If it's the latter, then you aren't calm enough. It should emanate from your chest. Try speaking with your hand on your chest. Feel your voice vibrate through the palm of your ha…
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:20 PM
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We ended up having a 20-minute conversation that felt very casual but engaging. Who started the conversation? If she started it, then you've got this aura. Make sure to uphold that aura. Looks can be part of it, but honestly it's often just your aura. Meditation work for that. If you opened her, then nice game bro! (Being manly and charming also helps your aura.) She asked me questions about my fitness goals and dieting, and I asked her about her job, getting to know her a bit more. We were laug…
/r/seduction15/10/24 02:06 PM
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If you told it to them beforehand, then what's unfortunate about it? Do you hold women to different standards than men?
/r/seduction15/10/24 01:07 PM
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I have a quick solution for you, and you're not gonna like it. Just don't have sex with women you get sentimental about. If you sense that a woman likes you in the LTR way, and it's not mutual, then simply don't have sex with her. Problem solved. Or... Well, you do have enough self control to do that, am I right? Hey, freebie for you. Here's why I don't have sex with women like that for entirely selfish reasons. I don't like drama. So, if you're like me, and don't like drama, don't make sex that…
/r/seduction15/10/24 01:02 PM
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Means they just want to have sex. So, stop talking about relationship bs and give them what they really want!
/r/seduction14/10/24 11:06 PM
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I've seen it in real life. Often it's me fucking that wife. Being a singer I know a thing or two about using the voice. It can work. But - unless you speak like recorder flute - you don't really need to worry about it.
/r/seduction13/10/24 08:56 PM
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Step 1 is wrong. Sorry. You don't really need to have much. At all, cue the video of the homeless guy who picks up chicks to find a place to sleep for the night. Step 2 is also wrong. Pickup is a hobby in its own right. But yeah, good if you have something to contribute to a conversation outside having your head stuck in the sand. Obviously. So, while it's not necessary, it helps to have other hobbies, or know history, or know philosophy - or fml - astrology (you know, chick crack stuff) Step 3 …
/r/seduction13/10/24 08:53 PM
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When girls are shy but interested in you, they'll come and stand nearby you. Perhaps they're order a beer, or just be on their phone, but like a metre or so away from you - but close enough so you can see them. This generally means they want you to re-open them but they might be too shy to talk to you first.
/r/seduction09/10/24 11:30 PM
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I've started doing PU in 2005, and since then I've been with hundreds of women. The AI here is actually not bad. It's not the fastest way to meet women, but in general this advice is a safe way to get a gf. Could you improve upon the advice? Certainly. But is it horrible advice? Not at all. In fact it's probably more than enough for most normal men out there.
/r/seduction09/10/24 12:38 AM
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In general this advice isn't directly bad. There are certain steps, or tests, if you like. Small-talk. Does she want to continue? Does it feel good for you? Mirror neurons: If it doesn't feel good for you, it probably doesn't feel good for her, but sometimes it's her nervousness, so be kind towards her and make some jokes. So, after all that, is she still there? Cool, does the conversation go any deeper? Well, if it does, then give her another test akin to, "Hey, I think you're cool, wanna share…
/r/seduction09/10/24 12:34 AM
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Ok, usually I'll go on and on about what you can do to get the girl, but clearly you're not even a real man yet... Snide jokes aside. This is obviously something that is a very big sticking point for you. The first thing you need to know is that you're already a real man. Not only that, but you're a ten. Perhaps a skinny or overweight ten, but still a ten. You can work on the weight or lack of it. But even if you get the perfect body and the perfect personality, you will still only be a ten for …
/r/seduction09/10/24 12:27 AM
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Those two are solid. Keep it up!
/r/seduction08/10/24 12:00 AM
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Start having short conversations with everyone when you go out. Notice when women smile or laugh (genuinely) at your jokes, or when they kinda lean in or want to touch you a little. Go back and re-open that girl later on, or wait until she's nearby while you're at the bar and re-open her there. If she comes and stands nearby you, she really wants you to open her, but she's too timid to try herself.
/r/seduction08/10/24 12:00 AM
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I studied at such a place, and it's still a hard no. Don't do it. You'll get recognized. And when you get recognized, you'll get reported, and ... bye, bye studies. So keep to the places where it's expected to be a bit forwards, student pubs, parties, etc. If you're gonna PU at campus, don't make it too obvious. Tho obviously, if you see a nice girl, go over and speak to her, ask her on a date, tell her you'd kick yourself if you never asked. But just don't become this asshat who follows women a…
/r/seduction06/10/24 10:53 PM
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If you don't act on IOI's then you won't get anything. Also IOIs aren't just "eye fucking." It could be she's smiling to you, in a friendly way. Or laughing more at your jokes. Well, if she is, then go talk to her. Get her alone, or see if she wants to be alone with you. If she does, then that is a very good sign. If she doesn't, then... well, go find someone else.
/r/seduction06/10/24 08:50 PM
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TBH looking like a hobo was the way the really hot women would approach me here in Oslo :p
/r/seduction06/10/24 08:46 PM
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This is what I'd call "Winner's Perspective." Eyh, man, approaching women is EZ! No problem! Just, like, stop being so worried, and just go up and get rejected dooode! All in all it's pretty bad advice. Yeah, sure, approaching women won't get you killed, but it can still be quite a harrowing experience. Especially if you don't know what you're doing and you essentially have to experiment a lot to get it right. Chances are you're doing the whole thing wrong. Especially since a guy said that "you …
/r/seduction06/10/24 08:20 PM
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Honestly, I've seen the opposite. When I go to a small town it's a turkey shoot. Hot women throwing themselves at me, husband or not.
/r/seduction05/10/24 05:57 PM
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Bristollair among others
/r/seduction05/10/24 03:59 PM
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99% she just likes the attention. 1% she's ready for you, but 1. she's a co-worker, and 2. do you really want a relationship with a woman who cheats?
/r/seduction05/10/24 05:08 AM
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I remember when I lost my virginity. We were both naked, but then she stopped me and told me, "Hey, you said you can play guitar and sing? I want to hear! No, no more touching until you play guitar for me!" So, butt naked, I picked up my guitar and sang a song with her. Well, it must've been good bcos I still lost my virginity that night... It was one of my own songs ofc.
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:25 PM
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A few hundred is not enough. The first 1000 approaches don't count.
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:18 PM
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You do decidedly not want to get known as the guy doing cold approaches at campus. With that said, I still did a lot of approaching in Uni, but I kept it to venues where it was socially acceptable and kind of expected that you'd be a bit forward. So student pubs, clubs and parties, and stuff like that. Other than that I would just socialize as normal in my own groups or classes. I mean getting to know people is usually not considered the same as approaching, tho otoh you will often find out if s…
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:12 PM
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I did the social status game in Uni and ended up dating my tutor.......... She was younger than me and hot as hell. But she obviously knew more about math than I ... well, frankly, still do.
/r/seduction03/10/24 09:08 PM
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Older than that. Say 2006. 2004? I don't remember exact publishing dates lol. When TD first started posting... Those things are really good. He made some interesting observations that are simple to grasp for most people. He kept thinking about it but failed at communicating it well - but then over-communicating is a great way to sell, though, because it requires commitment. (Or idk TD is pretty smart so he might even have done it on purpose.) I mean, in the literal sense. The psychological princ…
/r/seduction03/10/24 04:15 PM
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Yep, you're just too old at this point. Yeah, really sorry about this, but at 35 you should really be married and working on your career. /s I'm 45. Just out of some years of LTR and dumb self-inflicted celibacy. Idk why I did it, but I woke up from the stupidity a couple of years ago and started dating again lol. It's mostly great fun, but sometimes it's a little frustrating, and you ofc risk getting your heart broken (ah now I remember why I kept celibate for so long...) but in the end it give…
/r/seduction03/10/24 12:38 PM
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Because being nice and considerate is often so unexpected to the extra hot girls that they fall in love with you. Man, you're probably not going to believe this, but I've actually received love letters just by being nice.
/r/seduction03/10/24 12:39 AM
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Flirting is kind of fun banter, but with a sexual undertone. Blame her for stalking you, for wanting you, and tell her she's jyst trying to use you for sex. Or suggest outrageous things such as, "Do you want to show me the housekeeping closet?" Or "I bet you want to take me behind those bushes. I don't trust you." Like, the sexual undertone is overt, but you're laughing so it's only a joke. Or is it? The time comes when she says, "Ok, cool, come with me into the Linen Room, then........ big boy!…
/r/seduction03/10/24 12:36 AM
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I will just smile and blame her for wanting to impress me. Then she'll laugh and hit my arm. Like that.
/r/seduction03/10/24 12:32 AM
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Great argument there buddy. Have you field tested their stuff? I have. The old articles are really great. Easy to employ. It's their later stuff that is too long and too fluffy to get a real grasp on. Except if you really put your mind to it, and use their concepts in the wild I think you'll see some revelations there as well. Getting what TD communicates is really the key to understand "natural" game.
/r/seduction01/10/24 04:35 PM
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This. And skål!
/r/seduction30/09/24 05:39 PM
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Being attractive means more women want to fuck you. It does not mean they want to marry you tho. IMHO women are creeps lol
/r/seduction30/09/24 05:26 PM
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I remember when first starting out with MM back in 2005. Basically the advice to Get Out of the Sofa was the Holy Grail of community advice back in the day. If you weren't practising, first off you'd get ridiculed, then you'd be booted off the forum for being a KJ. My approach to it was to read a few pages or a chapter, so I got some main points. Then I'd take some notes - small enough so I could actually bring it with me. Then I'd go out and practise it in person. I'd look at the notes like a d…
/r/seduction30/09/24 05:14 PM
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Haha I remember starting out with his books back in 2005 lol.
/r/seduction30/09/24 04:41 PM
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Reverse psychology, maybe? Peeps who know don't want competition lol. OTOH arguably it has also been some pretty big scammers out there, such as JA. I still rely on old - classical - forum posts from the masters, such as TD and Ijjji, and so on. The most no bs, tho perhaps a bit technical and boring advice (let's call it down to earth), are from the likes of Todd V, Karisma King, Coach Kyle, Dan Bacon, and Stirling Cooper.
/r/seduction30/09/24 04:39 PM
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Picking up women at beach: Go over to woman Pick her up Think of a place to set her down - or hurl her into the sea (more fun) Jokes aside, yes you can talk to women also at the beach. Have you tried the old frisbee trick? Or volleyball trick? It's when you pass a frisbee or something between some friends, and --- oooopsss! --- you miss and it coincidentally (by pure chance!) lands right next to that incredibly hot girl. Then casually walk over, while flexing your most important muscles. Pick th…
/r/seduction22/09/24 06:22 PM
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You're not alone! Here's how you become social when going out: Speak to everyone. Also men. But keep it short. Say hi how's it going to the first crowd or table after entering the room. This is important bcos this is how you build social momentum to work the room. Simply give a cheer or give a compliment of the type, you look like the life of the party, or you look like a fun crowd, something like that, lo fi. Then perhaps ask where they were before they came here, and if it was any good, or - i…
/r/seduction17/09/24 07:02 PM
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Make the noise work in your advantage. Work on body language. Work on flirting with gestures only. Make it a little secret slapstick kind of thing between just you and. Then go dance with her. Pull her close. Pretend that you say something in her ear. Let her say something in hour ear (you don't have to hear it). Then graze close to her nose or lips, and then make out when she gets hot. No words required. (But you need gestures, and you need to learn when she's ready.)
/r/seduction17/09/24 05:52 PM
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I'll just go ahead and take that as a compliment. I worked hard for this body. But listen, that thing happened way before I got jacked tho. That's why I think there's hope for everyone. :)
/r/seduction22/08/24 04:02 PM
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I agree with this. English is my sec... Look, I've been speaking English since I was five. So my only excuse is dsylexyeah.
/r/seduction22/08/24 04:01 PM
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Dude... I was pointing to the fact that you're using Mystery Method bro... And that the rest of the community has gotten past those old things many, many years ago... But there's nothing wrong in that. MM works. It's just that there are so many things that work better.
/r/seduction22/08/24 12:57 AM
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If it's a liberal work space, or the job isn't very important to you, then just ask her out. It's the only way to truly find out. If she's on your team, and you've got a serious career, I'd advice against it, tho. Be nice, flirt low key, but not overtly. And if things get serious, make it clear that one of you either have to quit that job or move to another department. Usually. But not always. Look, workplace romance is often less than ideal, but there are also examples to the contrary. I'd stil…
/r/seduction21/08/24 11:41 PM
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This is not just something that works for me. It worked for most peeps in my lair back in the day when we did PU. I can verify that it worked for Teev also, since I know him personally. The strat you're using was discussed heavily in like 2008, and the conclusion was that it's just postponing sex. I can't link anything bcos the old board was taken down, sadly, but I think you'll find similar conclusions on other boards. It's not a bad strat per se. It comes from the grand master himself, Mystery…
/r/seduction21/08/24 11:34 PM
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Excuse me, that means you are following her lead? What was it from my post that made you think you should follow her lead? I think you misunderstand me. When you know how to banter, you also know how to lead the convo and leading her. In an outcome independent way. Reading on from your reply, it would seem we basically agree, though. Yes, you should obviously lead. Yes, you should be outcome independent. I mean, not so much that you don't care if she likes you or not, but enough so you won't cry…
/r/seduction21/08/24 09:37 PM
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If I suggest something and she can't, I might check if she's available at some other time. If she's not available then either, I tell her these exact words: "No problem. Just shoot me a text when you're ready to meet." This is called "shooting the ball into her corner." It's now her job to get back to you because you already gave her plenty of chances. If she likes you, she will. Then I go about my day. Moreover, I won't ever wait for her. I'll make an effort to meet new women. And I'll get invo…
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:09 PM
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Idk if you need to have a plan. You need to learn how to vibe and banter. Also you need to know how to escalate, and there's only really one way of learning that, and that's by trying and adjusting after her mood and reactions. The more experience you have with it, the easier it gets.
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:03 PM
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I agree with this. Moreover, it's great to show her different places as well. It connects her more to you. If she gets more experiences with you, it's as if you've been together for longer. This is straight up Mystery Method btw, but also it's something I've personally tested. The more time you spend with a woman, the bigger the chance you'll end up in bed together.
/r/seduction21/08/24 08:02 PM
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If she brings up sex, change the subject. Read up on TVA_Oslo, or Teevster. His sex talk is legendary, and it's how he got laid most of the time. He would find ways to bring up sex in the conversation early, and then show sexual competence while simultaneously arousing the woman. More often than not she'd want to find out more about his expertice, if you know what I mean. Talking about sex early will also weed out weirdos and prudes very early, which is good. The only exception is perhaps if you…
/r/seduction21/08/24 07:58 PM
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I can tell that you're not experienced. If it's an innocent admiration of her body, and she catches you, she'll love it. If you ogle her, otoh, then she's in her full right to want to slap you. We're not talking about the guys rolling down their back seat window and whistling at ladies here. We're talking about real infatuation.
/r/seduction21/08/24 07:15 PM
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how do I keep (her) interested? Short answer: You don't. If you haven't had sex with her after the second or third date, then it's never going to happen. Just accept it and move on. Keep her as a friend if you are able to stand it, though most aren't and for good reason. If you keep meeting her, prepare to either hear her talk about other guys or worse, start flirting with, and dating them instead of you. For me, that's a fate worst than death. If you're able to stand that level of cuckery, then…
/r/seduction21/08/24 03:34 PM
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I learned this the hard way. I was always timid and a bit anxious about being perceived as a creep when looking at hot women. But this one time a woman caught me off guard. She had the most amazing... ass... I had ever seen. So beautiful! Gently saying from side to side as she walked.... I was completely captivated. When suddenly I noticed that she noticed.... For a split second I started cold sweating profusely and thought to myself "OMG!" But then something happened. She smiled, like it was a …
/r/seduction21/08/24 03:12 PM
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If she looks young, probably check if she's over 18, and you're good. Personally I wouldn't initiate anything serious with someone under 25 tho, but that's just me.
/r/seduction15/08/24 03:18 PM
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You're not obliged to hang out with people you're not into. If you were hoping to have some alone-time with her, then be man enough to admit this to her instead of losing all self-respect. And then bid the other guy a nice day.
/r/seduction15/08/24 03:10 PM
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That's not how it works. You're not her child. You're the man. So make the decision for her. And if she insists on taking him along anyway, then explain to her - in a polite way - that you were hoping to see her alone. Moreover, if she would rather see him, then you would sadly need to cancel the dinner. Bcos that's being the man. That's having respect for yourself. And if you don't, then how is she supposed to respect you as well? Obviously, in day-to-day life, there is feminism and equality. B…
/r/seduction15/08/24 03:06 PM
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If you know that he's up to no good: Excuse me, and you are? Oh, well nice to meet you! Have a nice day! This sets a clear precedence; that you're her official date and that he's not invited. You can be nicer than this, but why do you want to waste your - and her - time with this guy? She wants to see a guy that is able to lead and set boundaries. When you aren't, then you're just setting yourself up to be disrespected and abused by her later. If he persists, then just go: Well, we're having a p…
/r/seduction15/08/24 02:52 PM
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You sound afraid to set boundaries. Most women hate men who are unable to set healthy boundaries, and you'll end up severely disrespected later on if you aren't able to be a man. Conclusion: Be a man and dare to set boundaries. Only pussies and low status men agree to everything. (I still hope you'll agree to this tho lol...) You don't have to be mean about it though, but the example above is polite enough. It get's the message across without being rude. Though honestly, if he's being pushy, you…
/r/seduction15/08/24 02:46 PM
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Do you have a minute to talk about our Lord and saviour West Coast Swing?
/r/seduction15/08/24 02:29 PM
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Those dance studios are like being high pressure sales pitches into a timeshare hell? How so? Why should you be really ready to say no thanks and head out of there? Man, if you don't like pair dancing, then nobody''s forcing you to do it. But if you like it, and want to go more often - yes - then probably take some classes, or you're gonna annoy the other dancers whether they work there or not.
/r/seduction15/08/24 02:25 PM
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This is absolute gold. It's leading her down the path of fantasizing about you. Make sure to take off your T before you mow that lawn. Especially if you've got it (a little muscle tone or a sixpack, you don't even have to be perfect, just make her long after your sweat). Then when she offers refreshment, or if it's time to pay up, you don't really have to do much. If she's forward, if she compliments you, you might take her hand. And that's it. Then you know. Tho if you're one of these weiners w…
/r/seduction12/08/24 10:18 AM
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There is defo a balance to be struck, but if she's being forward, and you're not doing anything about it, then you're just gonna end up losing your window of opportunity. If you ever feel that feeling of hotness, of lingering suspense, then you gotta make a move or lose it forever.
/r/seduction12/08/24 10:09 AM
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When you throw the "Do you want two bf's" I hope you're just joking. It's ofc completely fine to make it into a joke to lighten the mood, tho it's not a particularly new joke, if you know what I mean, so you could easily come up with something more creative or new. Tho, if she's got a bf, she's got a bf, tho. And you don't really want a gf that needs two bf's. The more important part of this is being secure in yourself and not needing her validation. When you don't need her validation, then it s…
/r/seduction05/08/24 11:24 PM
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Depends if it's a friend or some random. Randoms I just casually block out, or I'll eye code the girl or roll my eyes at the other guy. She'll then promptly reject him and go with me. Ignore the other guy and simply talk louder or interrupt him. Or even better, if he's dumb and acknowledges you, then ask him some technical question, wait until he starts answering, then ignore him and talk to the girl instead. That's an instant mood-killer for the guy. If it's a friend, I'll simply tell him that …
/r/seduction02/08/24 10:13 PM
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It all started with a novel called The Game. Then I started reading up on various methods and strategies. I cut it into small, manageable blocks, and tested one thing after another as I went out. I started with night game, but I soon realized that a lot of it works just as well for day game. Then finally I got into natural game, and just decided to make "approaching" i.e. being social and outgoing part of my lifestyle.
/r/seduction31/07/24 08:27 PM
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Oslo.
/r/seduction31/07/24 06:54 PM
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Around 20. I've actually met fewer 25+ women and below 25 in the clubs and the streets for whatever reason. Personally I'm not so fond of it right now bcos I'm looking for a wife, and imho then I want one who's 25+ but those have been very hard to find for me. Ironically.
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:22 PM
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I'm 45 and I do it all the time. Some people claim that there's a bigger risk of getting the "eww" if you talk to younger girls. This is not my experience. If anything it's the opposite. Women love mature men who can hold their own and dares to still be sexy. They feel way safer and better taken care of around me than most inexperienced 20-somethings. OTOH if you approach in the wrong way—and God knows I've done enough of that as I was learning—then they will throw the "eww" anyway, no matter yo…
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:17 PM
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IHABF: I Have A Boy Friend, the auto-reply when a girl wants to softly reject you. Social dances (pair dances) are a bit different. Usually it's a close knit group of people who all know each other, if not intimately, then enough for rumours to start if you do something out of line. So, being "sexy" or "escalating" in such a close-knit group will just give you a bad rep. If you go to bigger events, you can probably get away by being a bit more sexy and forward, however. With that said, get to kn…
/r/seduction30/07/24 04:54 PM
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You gotta think about why you're getting digits, ig or deets. Mostly it's when you're leaving each other but you have some vague idea that you want to see each other again. So, if you're just getting the digits out of the blue, or coming over just for the digits, then it will be perceived as weird. She'll ask herself stuff like "Did he come just for my digits? Ok... Will he spam call me now, while drunk at 3 in the morning?" So, when you finally call or text, she'll not reply, or take long to re…
/r/seduction30/07/24 12:44 PM
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Stop asking for numbers. Instead, ask if she wants to see you again. (If you're not planning on taking her home right then and there. In clubs like that, buying temp is often high, and she'd most likely want to go straight home with you if you just ask. Or ask her for food first and then flirt with her and make out with her and take her home. Or go to her place...)
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:59 PM
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The guy asked for advice on why he's getting IHABF. You do that while face-to-face. The digits are not necessary if she goes home with him. Moreover, I never ask for digits. You wanna know why? Because it tells her that you're not interested in her, but only her pussy. Or her digits. If you ask for digits only, most likely she'll jsut give you a fake number or not reply when you finally call.. So, what do I do instead? Well, I ask her out on a date, or to hang out, or to go for a coffee. If she'…
/r/seduction29/07/24 11:52 PM
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This.
/r/seduction28/07/24 11:30 PM
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"Ah you're so beautiful, you deserve TWO boyfriends. One to hold your hand and do your dishes, and the other to make love to you all.. night.. long." Let her decide which one you are. ;) And be ready to tell her that you were just joking. It doesn't get much more cheesy than this.
/r/seduction28/07/24 11:29 PM
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Girls who actually have a bf will put it casually in the convo some place, so you'll understand that she's just there for some platonic fun. She might still want to flirt, though, because women really love the rush it gives. So, just look at her. Look deep into her eyes, and just feel the joy you get from her beauty. And suddenly it stops mattering whether she has a bf or not, you've still got her right where you want her. ;)
/r/seduction28/07/24 11:25 PM
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You might not like this but... The cute comeback is a band-aid solution. most of the approaches that I have been doing women respond they already are in a relationship If most of the girls respond that way, then IMHO it’s better to analyse what you’re doing before you get the “IHABF” response, instead of applying just the band-aid solution. I’d like to be able to respond in a playful way where maybe she could possibly change her mind and probably get the digits. I’m really sorry to break this to…
/r/seduction28/07/24 11:19 PM
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Not normally. On the dance floor I dance. Maybe chat a bit. So, on the dance floor, just do what you normally do.
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:40 AM
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I've made many comments about that, so just take a peek in my archive. :) I like Being the Mayor, also by Brent. It's a method where you use social momentum to create social value in a venue. The gist of it is that you speak to every set or group (seated or otherwise) in a venue, both men and women, pretty and ugly. Make it short. Go up like a mayor on his election campaign. Go, "Hi, how are you doing! You're looking nice today!" Or "You're looking like the party tonight!" Or "Nicest bunch in he…
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:29 PM
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I'm constantly being hit on by women far outside what I consider "my league." Also I'm being hit on by women far younger than I thought I'd ever be attractive for. So, you tell me! Moreover, when I'm in a happy mood, and care free, it instantly becomes way easier to talk to women, get instant make-outs, speak with them on the street, make out with them on the town square, etc. I mean, ridiculous things for most me. Things most men don't think is possible. I have don, and I still do, those things…
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:13 PM
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Not true. It's mostly personality and the ability to balance aggressive escalation without pissing the girls off or catching the attention of guards. Simply staying sober will make all that pretty easy, but it also means you'll just have to get more confident at opening and leading.
/r/seduction23/07/24 12:29 PM
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You can always read some more of my posts. But really, this should be more than enough to get you started. If you need more help, then join a PU lair or something. IMHO you don't need another product or another theory. You need practise. So, go out and actually meet people. That's by far the best way to learn.
/r/seduction23/07/24 12:12 PM
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Further down the line you learn to "sense" if a girl is into you also over text. I bet women has this sense too, and perhaps even stronger, because they get more practise and because they are more verbal anyway. On the other hand, IMO it kinda doesn't matter. There's this talk about "oh noes you don't wanna double text" and so on. Look, persistence also works, unless you're overdoing it. By persistence I mean, you sent that one text this week, and it didn't get a reply. Then try again next week.…
/r/seduction23/07/24 02:39 AM
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Like, you should work on your energy man. I hope this is vague enough.
/r/seduction23/07/24 02:27 AM
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She was literally the most ambitious, business minded, and hottest girl I’ve ever been with. And you are not. Full stop. This is your problem. The gym can't make you move on. You've gotta fill your mind with other things than her. I bet you're in a position to make millions. Go do it. And have women pine for you instead. How do you move on? Well, the first step is noticing when you're sliding into despair. Don't hate yourself for it. Just accept it. Those thoughts are there because you're in pai…
/r/seduction22/07/24 10:24 PM
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89% scammers and bots. You quickly learn their patterns. 5% validation whores. 1% real women. Of those expect to meet with 1% of the 1% lol.
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:03 PM
1

Send a meme ore a long-time greeting with a non-needy well-wishing. Example: "Hi, just wanted to know how you are. Wishing you a great summer." Or even just, "Hi just saw something that reminded me of you. Wishing you a great Christmas." Don't use these verbatim, but try to make up your own. They're just examples or templates you can start from. This is probably the most bland example. If you want you can also add a little joke or a meme, but make sure it's a message that does not require an ans…
/r/seduction19/07/24 01:57 PM
1

Do you think it's fair to make an assumption about my knowledge on something that I never even bothered to explain in the first place? If you wondered how much I knew of it, then why didn't you just ask? Ok, so you wanted to ask why I mentioned negging? Well, isn't it obvious? It's because it's the single most misunderstood concept within pickup. I think it's nice that you showed a video with a simplified version, but you know as well as I that the version in his handbook is way more nuanced. Al…
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:28 PM
1

Sorry for bothering you again, but where did I explain what negging is? Sorry for being curt here, but if you are fair with me, I'll be fair with you as well, and offer better methods.
/r/seduction17/07/24 09:35 PM
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Appreciate your input. Just a little unsure of one thing. Where did I misunderstand how a neg is done? Mystery is teaching you WHAT to say That's the problem. It's a problem pedagogically, how you teach PU. It's a problem in terms of how it puts pressure on you to perform when you don't have to. It's a problem in terms of delivery and how the entire concept creates cum hoc ergo propter hoc states. Oh and the small detail that it's hogwash pseudo-science. I mean, what do I know. I technically got…
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:50 PM
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I've done it all, for the required time. And I did the stats. Turns out simply taking action correlates more with success than most of the actual routines and techniques lol. Moreover, I found out that the easiest pulls I had, was when I tried the least to get them, while still putting myself out there. I'd basically say "hi" to some chic and ten seconds later we'd be making out and she would suggest I come to her place. Peeps like 60 and Gunwitch got me experimenting with extremely direct thing…
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:09 PM
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Every time I go into something with expectations, goals and strategies in mind, I almost always fall short and end up leaving disappointed. This is highly contextual, and it depends a lot on the actual expectations, goals and strategies you have in mind. If your expectation is that all women will want to sleep with you, then you're most likely going to be disappointed. If your expectation is that you're have a ton of fun being social and perhaps slip in a few cheeky flirts here and there, then y…
/r/seduction17/07/24 01:23 PM
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Given the current socio-political climate his actions are understandable, and even more so in the music industry. The second he is even perceived to overstep someone's boundaries, his career could be destroyed. Except the side-effect is that most women are turned off by that way of being.
/r/seduction16/07/24 06:43 PM
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IMHO he fucked up big when he asked you to kiss him, instead of being a man. Now he's licking his wounds and trying to distance himself. Ball is in your court, Miss.
/r/seduction16/07/24 06:01 PM
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I don't go to clubs to meet girls If you go out without intent, don't expect to go home with anyone either. But you don't only have to go to clubs to "meet girls". There are other reasons, that will also improve your game with women. Here's a super important one. Go to clubs to study social interactions, and find out who pulls vs. who doesn't pull. This will teach you a ton of things about club game, dos and don'ts, what works and what doesn't. Study up on social interactions, and try to spot th…
/r/seduction14/07/24 07:55 PM
1

Being a high count guy, I only really care if she's into me. But then I never take anything for granted either, so if she starts something she's out.
/r/seduction14/07/24 07:32 PM
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Google up Push and Pull. The basic pattern is "I love you. I hate you." Or "I hate you. I love you." Mention something you dislike, and then something you like, in a flirty way. Then look up Breaking Rapport (instead of Trying for Rapport or Neutral Rapport). It's when you talk with a downwards inflection. Do this and almost anything can become a "neg." "Hey. I like coffee." Said wile breaking rapport can be quite bossy. Experiment with intense eye contact and breaking in and out of personal spa…
/r/seduction12/07/24 09:26 PM
1

Dancing doesn't count. You're supposed to hold hands there. This test is to see if she will voluntarily hold onto your hand when she doesn't have to. Or if she'll even micro-escalate a bit, by cuddling your hand. Btw. also during dancing, women who like you can send you some signs, such as squeezing your hand subtly at the end of a dance to motion that she really liked to dance with you. It's a really subtle and discrete way of showing affection without letting everyone else in the room know, th…
/r/seduction10/07/24 03:45 PM
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Grab her hand because you want to show her something. Make something up, then grab her hand and lead her somewhere to show her whatever that is. Could be a picture on a wall, or just something, even the view. Loosen the grip when you're there, but keep holding on. If she keeps holding your hand, it's a very good sign. But if she pulls her hand away fast, or isn't interested in holding your hand in the first place, then sorry, she's not that into you. Other than that, many of the other posts in h…
/r/seduction09/07/24 09:25 PM
1

Quick google said it was the most common type of male, the kind of guy who gets up in the morning and goes to some steady job, generally standup guy, has a reg gf and gets married after a break-up or two, then either settles down and becomes a grandfather with or without his wife (50% of marriages end prematurely but 80% re-marry after the first I've heard - correct me if I'm wrong)
/r/seduction04/07/24 06:58 PM
2

Well, then she's obviously not "The One" so you should grow a backbone and find someone better.
/r/seduction28/06/24 05:53 PM
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It depends what you mean by "the one." Is it someone you're crushing on from a distance? Like someone you haven't even spoken to? If you're putting her on a pedestal like that, it's only gonna get harder to get to know her, because speaking to her becomes this huge deal. This is why it's really important to keep it casual with girls you don't know (well) yet. Also, in such a situation, it's really, really important to continually meet other women, so you both get better at - well - meeting new w…
/r/seduction26/06/24 10:00 PM
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You've just aching to post this to get likes. I gave you a like.
/r/seduction26/06/24 11:46 AM
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Just do like we do here in Norway: Mountain trek. It's free. The Tourist Association even arranged mountain treks for singles. They're quite popular. The cabins can get kinda moist tho.
/r/seduction26/06/24 11:44 AM
3

I see you're a man of culture ;)
/r/seduction20/06/24 09:28 PM
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Your mindset is having fun. You both know that you probably won't meet each other again. But you can keep in touch online. Or not. So, you gotta act NOW and not later. This is also good bcos it teaches you to strike while the iron is hot. But if you ever fall in love....
/r/seduction18/06/24 06:11 PM
10

Hey girl 29, you know I'd never fuck you over. But I'd love to fuck you over and over.
/r/seduction18/06/24 12:02 AM
2

You're not getting any practise if you never meet them again. Yes, I'm saying that what you're doing is futile. Moreover, you shouldn't even be asking for numbers at this stage. Your goals should be to see them again later. Numbers will follow automatically if they want to see you again. So, stop asking for numbers, and start asking to see them again. Bcos the vibe was good. If you're just trying to learn how to be more social, however, then never mind what I said. Just remember to be social eve…
/r/seduction12/06/24 12:38 AM
2

Rookie numbers indeed! Your first 1000 approaches doesn't even count. During the first 1000 is when you're learning and thinking, and gaining reference experience. Later, when you've gotten that experience, is when the approaches start counting. That's when you already have enough experience to know what you're doing, and make changes on the fly that benefits your wanted result.
/r/seduction12/06/24 12:36 AM
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I made out with a 22 year old chick last week. You just have to meet the ones who are into older men. Btw I'm 45. It's easier when you're in the zone. Like if you're in state. Easier if you go out with some pals. If you get into that head space, you'll suddenly find women approaching you. Or you'll approach some girl, be totally outcome independent, and she'll either insta make out with you, or end up in your arm, whereupon you can simply ask her, "Do you live nearby?" or "Hey, I'm hungry let's …
/r/seduction11/06/24 11:55 PM
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If she's your gf, tell her that it was really nice, or even tell her you got really turned on by it. Either way compliment her. Perhaps even better if you do it in person, or while on the phone with her. If it's a rando, I'd probably do about the same thing, but invite her over. No matter if I'm attracted to her or not I'd try to compliment her, but perhaps try find a way to lower the sexuality of the conversation without hurting her feelings if I'm not attracted to her. Kinda de-escalate so she…
/r/seduction11/06/24 10:29 PM
1

Have you actually tried joining a dancing class? Imho it's harder to meet women in dancing classes bcos a lot of them are already in relationships. And if you get too flirty with a taken chick, the jealousy is thick. Moreover if you get a girl in that community and she decided to get flirty with someone else. Whew... Also, the community is smaller, so everyone knows everyone, so if you mess up, then you'll be the talk in the entire community. Moreover, if you mess up you risk being ostracized or…
/r/seduction06/06/24 01:23 PM
2

salt n pepper?
/r/seduction06/06/24 01:19 PM
2

I went up to a woman sitting with a bunch of loser male friends, and told her that I'd love to fuck her in the ass. She just smiled and bit her lower lip while she asked who the hell I was. Then she quickly dotted her number into my phone as I went on to meet other peeps. This was just a test I did, but it clearly worked. Rather my style isn't so much to verbalise things, as it's to just escalate. Bcos I'd rather be seen as a man of action, than a guy who's all full of hot air (a dude who says l…
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:49 PM
3

Alan Roger Currie strikes me as a somewhat handsome badboy, perhaps reminiscent of the character Tubbs in Miami Vice. Or at least he was. He's the kinda guy who could rock up on a girl and just say something crazy like that and get away with it. It certainly takes care of the premise for the conversation. Here in Norway we say that the cat walked around the hot porridge. Well, this guy doesn't do that. He sticks his entire hand in, and he's comfortable with whatever hits him. As a guy who's actu…
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:45 PM
2

Why did you write everything in bold?
/r/seduction05/06/24 04:21 PM
5

No, I don't but I'm happy to answer any questions.
/r/seduction05/06/24 11:49 AM
1

IMHO I'm surprised you haven't given up already. I'm not sure taking a break will help so much, but certainly it'll help to do something completely different for a while, and then change up the way you approach radically.
/r/seduction05/06/24 02:22 AM
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1 year later I talked to a girl on the street not knowing she was her at the beginning, and then we recognized each other, she again looked super into me but she got a boyfriend She most likely blocked you the first time because she met another guy. This happens from time to time. A really cool girl would just tell you that, “Sorry I've met someone else but thanks for the dates.” But sadly most women are too pussy to do men this simple service and so they just block peeps instead. I can't rememb…
/r/seduction05/06/24 02:21 AM
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This occurs to me to be a wall of text. Can you please make some paragraphs? Or tidy the report into points. Example: when I tried this, that happened then the other thing happened And so on. Ordering the report into paragraphs or points makes it a ton more easy to read. Also it's far easier for us to know where in the report we are, so we don't give advice to the wrong part.
/r/seduction05/06/24 02:13 AM
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When you write field reports, try to make it as objective as possible. Recount simply what you did. Nothing more, nothing less. Keep what went through your head to yourself, unless you also want advice on inner game. What's way more important is what you did, or what you wanted to do but didn't do (the latter relates to inner game in particular). At your stage, there are no good or bad field reports. There's only: "Am I learning now, or am I just needlessly bragging?" You really want to avoid th…
/r/seduction05/06/24 02:11 AM
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I was very bad at baby stepping the girl into a conversation which is more on the sexual side. Are you talking about during the date here, or the first time you met her through day game approaching? If it's the former, I wouldn't fret. 10 dates is simply too small a data set to even worry about it. If that's so, the answer is simply to go on more dates, and then keep it light and fun and escalate as much as possible, as fast as possible. If it's the latter, however, then I'd strongly advice agai…
/r/seduction05/06/24 02:03 AM
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I have done over 3000 (thousand) approaches and never got laid The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. — Einstein I have been on around 10 dates but nothing came from them. 10 dates is very little, especially during the course of seven years. Thus, you probably haven't even learned how to properly act on a date, and how to get a date to the next level through sexual escalation. I'm not saying this to discourage you. Quite the contra…
/r/seduction05/06/24 01:40 AM
2

Depends on your outset. Most men (in the West) aren't skinny-fat. They're just a little overweight in terms of BMI. They have a small beer belly and perhaps thin arms. The amount of work you have to do to fix that is not really that much. But it does require some motivation and discipline. So, to reiterate, most men have an overweight BMI, or even an obese BMI. But let's focus on the former, those who are overweight. Perhaps they have a sedentary lifestyle, so they've got a beer belly, thin arms…
/r/seduction04/06/24 08:46 PM
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Personally I find it motivating that so many peeps quite before they even start. Makes things a lot easier for guys like me who have the required discipline. Had my first saucy "wow" experience the other day. I was backstage with this cute girl, and we had to change. She was standing right next to me, and I thought that would be a great time to just rip off my T and change into suit I needed for the show. This is the first time since I started exercising that I got that hungry look from a woman.…
/r/seduction04/06/24 08:24 PM
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Honestly, you just need some discipline. The genetics thing is an excuse. And people who make excuses are losers. Either you do something about this, or you're a loser. It took me about three months of gym pumping to notice some muscle tone on my arms. I went to the gym about two times a week. The third day I used for hiking and biking. Eventually I started dancing, so I don't need to hike or bike anymore. I almost never jog, except some thread-mill work before lifting. If you're not into joggin…
/r/seduction04/06/24 07:45 PM
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You really only have to do three things to get there: Eat more protein Intermittent fasting Exercise and lift Eating more protein than carbs, or simply cutting down on carbs (especially alcohol, potatoes, noodles, rice and white bread), means you'll stay satiated for longer. This is great because then you can also fast for longer, which means you'll be burning more calories than you're adding. When you exercise and lift, you keep your muscles engaged so your body don't burn muscle tissue to keep…
/r/seduction04/06/24 07:39 PM
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I don't meet anyone on apps. So, likewise, the apps are useless. Instead I meet women out and about and everywhere. Sometimes I notice a vibe, and then I ask her out. I go to clubs as well, and most of the crowd there are below 30. IMHO it's hard to find 30 somethings out. Probably need to find pubs or something, but I never really liked areas where everyone sits down in small and close-knit groups. IMHO it's easier to meet someone where lotsa peeps are already standing, like in the clubs.
/r/seduction04/06/24 11:31 AM
3

That was just a shit test. Honestly, I think it's easier hooking up with 20 somethings in my mid 40's than hooking up with a 30 something.
/r/seduction04/06/24 10:33 AM
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This is how you learn the subtle art of always flirting but never chasing. In fact, when you want to chase, you should probably pull away hard and go talk to someone else.
/r/seduction04/06/24 10:32 AM
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There are studies on this. Most women pine for athletic guys. So, there is actually such a thing as a guy who's too muscular. You have to hit the sweet spot. This also coincides with my experience through life. My athletic friends got way more attention than my more stocky friends, even if they were very muscular. Even more so if they took off their T and flaunted their six packs (the effect of a well-toned six pack wanes with age however so that's kind of young guys game, or guys under 30). The…
/r/seduction04/06/24 10:17 AM
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I'd say this is pretty much the same thing in Northern Europe.
/r/seduction03/06/24 09:28 PM
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IMO you made the right choice in deciding to not see a hooker. Such a woman can never give you what you're really looking for. But searching for love—or even just true intimacy—is ofc a lot harder. First of all, the dating apps are dead to anyone who's not the top 5 percent of men. And those 5 percent don't exactly use it to get married, if you know what I mean. Second, 100 is extremely few. You shouldn't even consider changing your script before you've racked up at least 1000 approaches. And he…
/r/seduction03/06/24 07:29 PM
4

One at a time.
/r/seduction02/06/24 07:29 PM
7

You're making mistake number #1 here: Comparing yourself to people outside of your league. Stop it. It will only make you feel inferior and frustrated. Instead focus on the things that you can actually do something about. With that side, even doing energy meditations work. I've done those, and women have indeed waved their phones at me with their number on it. They never did that when I was in a bad mood tho.
/r/seduction02/06/24 10:21 AM
12

Johnny Soporno had a funny recount of this. He'd go into some club, and immediately hit up the most beautiful woman in there. Then he'd tell her the she's out with his gf, and point to the second most beautiful girl in there, and then tell her that - well - she's a little shy but we'd thought we'd ask you for a threesome. She'd ofc be charmed by how beautiful his gf was, so she'd say yes. Then he'd go to the second most beautiful woman in there, and simply repeat the process. Except now the most…
/r/seduction01/06/24 05:49 AM
2

Whenever there's a social get-together, make a point out of talking with everyone, and them make a point out of being "the social guy". If you become the guy in the corner, that's when women shy away from you. If the crowd is small, well, then you have more time to get to know them better. If the crowd is big, then start talking to the one next to you, and only stop of the person is really, really cool. My best friend lives around the world. Currently he's in Mexico lol. We almost never see each…
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:17 PM
10

As you said yourself, those two times came naturally. Do you wanna know why? It's because you were non-caring. You were just being social, being out and about without a care in the world. Then you met someone vibing at the same energy as you. So, what can you deduce from this? Well, you can deduce that "approaching women" doesn't work. Not the traditional way of doing it, anyway. Unless you're some social robot or crazy sociopath. In an nutshell, here's what approaching women does to you: You se…
/r/seduction20/05/24 10:33 AM
1

Rock up. Lean back. Cheer peeps as I go by. Maybe say hi to someone next to me at the bar or in the line. Maybe talk to them some more later. Or like last time, just rock up, catch the eye of some girl, start talking to her. End up talking all night long. She buys drinks for me now... Aaand I'm going home with her. :)
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:36 PM
1

I love how you lean so heavily into semantics. Lucky for you it's one of my favourite topics within linguistics. :) “Approach” means go over and say something. The literal meaning of approaching is just to get closer to something or someone. Saying something to them is optional. The kind of approaching you're talking about, is the kind where you go over to some girl to display sexual interest. Except I don't do that. That's why you can't blame me for approaching. Not in the sense of going over t…
/r/seduction08/05/24 10:12 PM
15

Older women: You're bad. You should date someone your own age! Younger women: Oh, a handsome, mature man! I might have some fun with him at least.
/r/seduction07/05/24 10:25 PM
0

Have you made an effort to talk more to the girls when you do this? Also do you flirt a little, as in make small borderline sexualized jokes or ballbusting of them? If she laughs, she's into you. Especially see if they want to comply with certain requests, such as going with you bcos you want to show them something at the other end of the club? I'm sure you'll get into way more intimate conversations with women if you do that.
/r/seduction07/05/24 09:57 PM
1

No, I literally don't approach women. Approaching has the connotation of going over to a girl and flirting in order to try to impress her so you get a date with her. You approach because you're sexually attracted to her. I don't do that. I do approach groups socially though. But it's not called "approaching" at that point. Instead, that's called mingling or just even socializing. I'm not talking to anyone in particular, and I'm just checking the mood and seeing what's up. Later on, I won't have …
/r/seduction07/05/24 09:42 PM
5

It's super simple. Just speak to everyone. Make some positive observation. Ask some simple questions. What did you do tonight? Was the party good? What's your plan for after? Add in if you're doing something cool and social you'd like to invite them on. Never stay too long. Only re-engage with people who are nearby you afterwards, or women who come and hover nearby you (they do this bcos they're afraid to open you directly, so you have to do the grunt work, but if they're nearby, it's usually bc…
/r/seduction06/05/24 11:09 PM
6

I don't approach. I just mingle and show social value while spreading some good vibes in the entire room, women and men, beautiful and ugly. Soon enough I'll notice positive interest from a few women. Perhaps they'll smile directly at me so I can engage them, or they'll come by and hover nearby me after, which is a sure sign they want me to re-engage with them.
/r/seduction06/05/24 06:38 PM
5

She has the hots for you. You should speak with her some more and invite her on something. If she's stopped saying goodbye, it means your window is closing. I.e. she's giving up on you. So, you have to act. Ask her out now!
/r/seduction04/05/24 06:59 PM
-1

How do you build up tension?
/r/seduction04/05/24 02:41 PM
1

You don't have to flirt. You'll notice that when you stop "flirting" and rather just start having fun, the flirts will come by themselves instead of being these forced things. So, do stop flirting. Instead just have fun. It serves the exact same purpose.
/r/seduction03/05/24 04:02 PM
0

Negging works fine - on HOT chicks. Bcos they're kinda insecure already. However it's also a very hit and miss thing. It requires the right delivery. Unless you really know what you're doing, or you have a very geeky interest, then I wouldn't try it, especially since there are far better strategies out there. IMO it's far better to just do Push and Pull. Kinda "I love you, I hate you" statements. And on top of that you should only ever use it as a joke, or a tongue-in-cheek kinda thing. It'll ma…
/r/seduction02/05/24 11:23 PM
3

It feels like shit when it's unrequited. It feels like heaven when it's mutual.
/r/seduction21/04/24 07:01 AM
2

For whatever reason I decided to stay single and not actively pursue more women after my last breakup in 2019. It was a conscious choice due to reasons (I was kinda fed up with always ending up with women I wasn't really into, also my "number" is already very high). My dumb idea was that I'd just pursue nerdy activities (programming mostly) and not socialize, but if I happened to meet a woman along the way, I'd of course invite her into my life. But as the years went by I slowly started to doubt…
/r/seduction19/04/24 02:16 PM
0

Talk to her. Hablar con ella. Parla con lei. Поговори з нею. If she likes you, there's gonna be a lot of sexual tension. There are only two ways of releasing this tension: You kiss her You ask if she wants to meet you later
/r/seduction18/04/24 12:20 AM
-1

People mature at different speeds, so there are really mature 18 year olds, and there are really immature 18 year olds. So, It's not like 18 is this magic number. But it is the number where some countries (or states) have decided that they will put the bar. Most countries put the bar at 16, though, but you had better check local laws unless you want a very unpleasant surprise. Other than that, the bigger the gap, the more of a chance there is that you're at different stages in life. The life of …
/r/seduction16/04/24 10:09 AM
1

Literally everywhere. The street. The desert. The pub. The Tesco. The Walmart. The bus. The ferry. Airplanes are cool too. Around 50 % of the worlds population are women. Have at it!
/r/seduction14/04/24 11:43 PM
1

Overthinking. Did you try to kiss her? If she likes it, you were wrong. If she doesn't like it, then you were right. Either way, trying to kiss her is the finest compliment a woman can get, so she will value you for trying even if she's not interested. Moreover trying to kiss her shows to her in no uncertain way that you're a man of action, who's not afraid of her, which is honourable in its own right (at least if you manage to contain yourself if she should reject your try). Men who wait around…
/r/seduction11/04/24 02:40 PM
2

Met her Friday. She stayed until Sunday.
/r/seduction11/04/24 12:16 AM
2

Huh? Did you perhaps comment another post? I never broke up with her cuz it was a fling.
/r/seduction10/04/24 09:52 PM
0

I got laid last week. Met her at a bar. What about it? Do you call everyone who's got a higher number than you an incel? (You should probably look at my posting history bro...) Wanna know something that isn't even funny? I never told this girl a single joke. Instead, I just chatted to her normally, she agreed to come home with me bcos I had the balls to invite her. And the rest is history. She stayed the entire weekend due to the quality I always deliver.
/r/seduction09/04/24 06:59 PM
1

You can still go to bars and clubs even if you don't drink. Just have a soda or something. Or, hell, just water. Just sayin'. Also the drinking crowd needs a designated driver. Just make up the excuse that you're the driver, and you'll be fine. If peeps buy you a beer, just give it to someone else (preferably someone hot).
/r/seduction09/04/24 03:56 AM
9

How many times has stand-up gotten you laid? Clowns are funny, sure, but not very attractive. It's a misunderstanding that you need to be funny to get laid. Handsome guys are viewed as more funny, but when you listen to their jokes, you soon learn that the girls just laugh to get their attention. I mean, there's nothing wrong in getting a girl laughing, but why put in the effort when you can get the same result by just having some balls and escalating?
/r/seduction09/04/24 03:45 AM
-1

I play guitar far better than you. It's just a fact. Tim Henson is slightly better than me. But I have a far better singing voice than him. Yes, I'm that gifted. And you've never heard about me. Bcos despite being threatened on my life if I don't record some of my songs, it just never interested me. I don't play to entertain others. I play to entertain myself. I can tell you, first hand, that if your reason for getting into guitar is to get girls... then you're on the right track, bro! :) Learn …
/r/seduction09/04/24 03:39 AM
5

Depends on the mood. If she's stand-offish, probably don't make a move. And ghost her before she ghosts you. :)
/r/seduction06/04/24 10:57 PM
4

AFAIK culture in the USA is way more sexually conservative compared to most other countries, especially those of South America and Europe.
/r/seduction01/04/24 10:38 PM
6

No, it's good! If you know what to look for, it's kind of a huge compliment. The girl smiling and bashfully looking away; there is no sweeter thing IMHO. Might have put him on a power trip lol.
/r/seduction01/04/24 01:17 AM
5

Maybe you inadvertently made him feel powerful. Like, "Oh dang she's looking away now... POWER TO 11! YASS!"
/r/seduction01/04/24 01:03 AM
23

If it was mutual, then that's a very good sign. If he was staring you down, he could have been trying for some seduction bs technique, or he could be a psycho. Either two is equally valid.
/r/seduction01/04/24 12:23 AM
4

I call it the superman. Go home with her. Undress entirely. Stand in the superman position like you're about to fly when she walks into the room. The difference between you and me, is that I've actually done this. ;)
/r/seduction28/03/24 12:36 AM
9

Mystery Method with false time constraint. It's an older strategy but it checks out.
/r/seduction28/03/24 12:33 AM
2

If she's interested, go through with the date as normal, but you can now rest assured that when you want to escalate (i.e. go for the kiss, or be more intimate with you), then she'll most likely let you. If she pulls away, you'll have to use more time showing her that she can trust you. So be kind. Show her things. But probably don't escalate as quick. If she wants to be alone with you, it's still a good sign that she trusts you and likes you, so try again with some light touches, or perhaps eve…
/r/seduction26/03/24 06:14 PM
2

Any question where you probe her for some information. The goal is to subtly find out if she's a match for you. Then compliment her if she's got matching interests, but just keep asking questions if she gives boring answers, or her answers doesn't align with your interests. It'll give her a subtle hint that you're really testing her.
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:20 PM
3

A quick test is to simply keep holding onto her hand a little after shaking hands. Just loosen the grip a little but keep holding her hand to see what she does. It's very discrete. See if she keeps holding your hand, or curls her hand around yours, or even starts stroking or cuddling your hand a little. If she does, that's a very good sign. If she pulls her hand away immediately, she might be a little more insecure about you, so you'll need more time to make her comfortable.
/r/seduction26/03/24 01:38 PM
2

See if you hit it off with the sis when you get there. It can get awfully awkward awfully quick if you try cheesy pickup lines with the brother there, when visiting, so I'd just keep it social and polite. You'll notice if she likes you anyway. And if nothing else, get her as a guide, and it'll be easier to meet other cute girls in the area.
/r/seduction26/03/24 09:55 AM
10

This was a bit unclear to me. What is the mission here? Do you want to date the dude, his sister, or both?
/r/seduction26/03/24 03:28 AM
1

Yes, bad sign, but could also mean she's busy with something. Just let her go. Then hit her up later with a meme. If she likes it, you're back in business. If she ignores it, wait another few weeks or months and then repeat. Or invite her to something social and platonic and hope she brings pretty friends. Sometimes the game isn't lost even if she's not into you, if she's got cute friends and still wants to hang out.
/r/seduction26/03/24 03:25 AM
8

This is only half true. If you manage to build sexual tension with her, she'll long after seeing you again, even if you don't "do" anything. If the conversation is kinda slow, like... And there is tension in the air, you can go for a long time without "doing" anything, cuz you'll just be on her mind all the time. Sometimes this makes the woman wanna chase you, but most of the time it just primes her for a "Hell, yes" the second you ask her out.
/r/seduction26/03/24 03:22 AM
3

Approach at the club - steps Step 1: Move in her general direction Step 2: Evasive action, bcos you got nervous Step 3: Homing beacon mode on, so you turn around and go back Step 4: Got nervous again, so you take evasive action again Step 5: Homing beacon again Congratulations you've just made an 8 Jokes aside, you go over to her and present yourself. Often there's a lot of noise, so you don't even have to go over. You can just smile at her, and do some funny face or dance move, and she'll appro…
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:59 AM
16

You don't say stuff to escalate. You move closer. And kiss her.
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:56 AM
2

Be the coolest guy in the room. Talk and flirt with all her friends. Treat her like your little sister tho in a loving way.
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:47 AM
1

Be more handsome yourself. You're probably like a 6/10, so the girls dating you are already dating down. You can make up for this by: Dressing better Hitting the gym Going out more a.k.a. seeing more women Learning more snazzy pickup lines Chill out more when you see a really hot woman and don't try to impress her, instead jsut have fun and kiss her hand a lot Honesly, you only need the last line here. I mean you have no idea how few women kisses hands these days! Women adore that stuff! Especia…
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:44 AM
1

Watcha doing today? She's doing this and that. Inevitably she'll ask you back. Then you go. On nawt much, just having a warm flower petal bath while drinking a glass of sweet wine and watching Netflix while trying not to fry the TV from all the hot vapour. Wanna come over? She'll ofc reply: Lol no, you gotta buy me dinner bfore we take flower petal baths together, but maybe next time! So you'll say: That's fine bae, I'm already clean and I smell like roses, so we can take a walk in the park afte…
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:39 AM
1

Yes. Tho if you have tight game you'll get laid a heckuva lot more often.
/r/seduction26/03/24 02:32 AM
0

I'm just friendly to everyone, and suddenly I sit there with the most attractive girl in the room. :)
/r/seduction25/03/24 01:30 AM
29

Different thing entirely. Next time simply don't offer to pay for ubers and you're safe. In general, if a woman claims that she "can't afford" to see you, red flags should go up all over the place.
/r/seduction25/03/24 12:47 AM
220

Have you no honour? You promised ubers, you pay for ubers. Next time don't make the same mistake.
/r/seduction24/03/24 07:55 PM
-8

The difference between you and me, is when the girls tell us. You: As you open her, as a way to get rid of you. Me: After sex, to make sure I'm discrete about it.
/r/seduction24/03/24 04:19 AM
1

Five months ago? I was out with my friend today. He got badly rejected by this girl. She wouldn't give him her phone number. Next girl we meet, they hit it off, they go outside for a "smoke" (i.e. they make out), then he comes over to me and whispers that he's leaving with her, but that I should entertain the others a bit so it doesn't seem obvious. A rejection means nothing. Go meet more women.
/r/seduction22/03/24 03:17 AM
4

How to flirt with flight attendants: Step #1: Smile Step #2: Say something silly, or make a funny remark about her Step #3: Wait until she either hits you gently in the arm and says, "Oh you!" Or she calls airport security Judging by the rest of the comment, you don't really need the super useful guide I just made for you. But you know, feel free to thank me anytime! Anyway, next time ask her if she'd like to meet you outside of the cabin. ^^
/r/seduction20/03/24 12:28 AM
2

I seem to attract women far below my league on dating sites. Must be because my physical looks really suck. Meanwhile IRL I attract women far above my league, so much so that I wonder if I'm actually in a league higher than I thought. I get this from trying to hit on average women, and they always scorn me for it, or they roll their eyes. Meanwhile, if I hit on women who to me are unbelievably hot, then I suddenly find myself in bed with them. In fact, I don't really hit on them as much as I'm j…
/r/seduction13/03/24 04:35 AM
2

This will work on braggy morons. It's a bad tac on men who knows game though, because it'll backfire by you simply letting the other guy speak. What do you do if he's more handsome than you? What do you do if he simply exploits the encouragement by being really interesting to your girl?
/r/seduction12/03/24 03:52 AM
1

Sorry, we're having a private conversation here. Then physically turn you and your girls back to him, so he's blocked out.
/r/seduction12/03/24 03:48 AM
1

Try it and find out. ;) Do it tongue-in-cheek tho. It's for fun only. Tell them you're gay and then start making out with her when you dance together. Also if the girl has an annoyed bf, just tell her to tell him that you're her long lost gay friend, and that you're just gonna catch up. Then go get her number and make out with her lol.
/r/seduction09/03/24 01:44 AM
2

It's kinda in the same alley as telling them that you're gay. Then you escalate anyway, and when you're in the middle of making out with them and undress, and they ask you, "Hey, aren't you gay?" You can just tell them, "Sorry you're so hot that you turned me!"
/r/seduction08/03/24 03:16 AM
2

Ok, then don't take a break. But try this on them anyway, for shits n giggles. Tell me how it went.
/r/seduction08/03/24 03:15 AM
3

First of turn off the music. Then bring a lute, and then serenade the most virgin of them all! Jokes aside, good old heartfelt compliments will stop almost any lady. But from then on, you better show some balls.
/r/seduction08/03/24 01:11 AM
7

Take a break from women. Work on your inner self. Go out and be social. Talk to women. But tell them, "Sorry I'm celibate at the moment." I'm starting the timer right now. Please don't come back and tell me that you failed me.
/r/seduction08/03/24 12:33 AM
1

I just make sure I've got good hygiene, shower and wear fresh clothes. Then I simply let my male hormones do the rest. Shower every day before work. Wear new underwear every morning. Never had a complaint (or a frown) even when getting very hot and heavy (sweaty) with women.
/r/seduction07/03/24 02:25 AM
1

Like a new one or an old one? Fresh cucumbers smell kinda fresh imho...
/r/seduction07/03/24 02:22 AM
3

Sounds to me like you're making this whole thing into a way bigger deal than it has to be. Look, when you speak to a girl, the goal isn't to marry her. It isn't even to get her to like you. You're not supposed to perform for her! Let go of that immediately, and it'll take a huge load off your shoulders. Here's the goal: The goal is for you to have fun. (!) When you self-amuse, and have fun, and talk to women, your vibe will transfer over to them. That's when they suddenly let down all guards, as…
/r/seduction05/03/24 02:19 AM
7

Man, I wish I rushed when I was 15. Instead I stayed insecure and nerdy. Hey kid, kudos for asking. Do the research. You'll find out. But for the love of god wear protection.
/r/seduction04/03/24 11:35 PM
1

That's exactly what I mean. I thought I didn't have options either. Instead I longed for these girls. Pined for them. And to what end? So, just give them up. Let them go. Send them a message if you can ofc, but in an outcome independent way, in a non-asking way, in a way where you wish them luck, because deep down you know you're enough. Instead focus on the girls that are there for you. They will come if not there already. If you're not attracted to them, there will come girls that you are attr…
/r/seduction01/03/24 01:40 PM
1

Well I guess I'm just that guy then. Women wants to visit me from other countries. Women regularly drive from the other side of town just to meet me. Bcos what's best for her is to be with me. I think it can be learned tho. And so I think you're just doing it wrong.
/r/seduction01/03/24 03:10 AM
1

Don't underestimate how your belief about yourself also changed once you took charge of your own life. You strictly don't need to pump iron to do that, but it sure helps. Also it's hella healthy which is sexy on its own.
/r/seduction01/03/24 12:16 AM
0

True love, true giving love, is always appreciated. Needy love, however, is always scorned. You can compliment women. You can even say you love them, and they will love you, if it comes from the right frame. You can do the same from a needy frame, and they will be completely turned off.
/r/seduction01/03/24 12:15 AM
2

Giving up. No, honestly I did, and now women pick me up. I wish this was simple to explain... Like, I haven't given up in a negative way. Or perhaps letting go is a better word? Yes. Let go. Of outcomes. Of needs. Of sorrows. Of women who does not reciprocate. And linger in that feeling of tension with the ones who you deep down know that really like you. 💘 Early on, though, before I was good at PU, the best thing I ever found was this article: Social Vibing. The third thing I learned early on, …
/r/seduction01/03/24 12:12 AM
1

You have to change that story. From now on, they always say yes. Women always say yes to you. You never have to work for it bcos you're confident as fuck. Their nickers drop the second the door closes bcos that confidence, that freedom from subtle insecurity is gone. Bcos you're a 10 guy with 10 game. Once you believe that, then it also stops mattering how you look. You'll just be the man for her, and she'll want you inside of her.
/r/seduction29/02/24 12:29 AM
9

Sexual tension is natural between a man and a woman. It's when it gets a teeny bit awkward and you fill the silence, but you wait just a micro-second longer to reply. Or when you look into each other's eyes a little longer, and then you smile and look down. Or maybe she does before you. It's like you share a secret together, except no words to that effect was ever shared. You just know. That's also when you get the "hell yes" when you suggest doing something after. Fester was probably a bad choi…
/r/seduction29/02/24 12:27 AM
7

Sounds kinda needy. Just be a little fun and friendly, just like you were! No need to push it. No need to impress. In fact, if you let the situation fester a little, you build more sexual tension. ;) Then just let her leave with a smile on her face. If she's interested, she'll stop and have a chat, but you also have to expect that she'll stop and have a chat. Say the elevator opens and it's her floor, but you step outside with her, and go, "Oh, this your floor too lol?" Then talk for a min or tw…
/r/seduction29/02/24 12:17 AM
2

Man, I'm sad to hear this. Have you tried Radical Honesty? I think that may be one way to get out of it. Just be radically honest. And let go of the women that does not jive with that. My experience is that once they notice that you're willing to let go of them, most of them think twice. I can literally tell women: It's only tonight girl. And she'll go along with it. Tho at some point it becomes merely a tacit agreement. She already knows that you're a player. But the good news is that then the …
/r/seduction28/02/24 02:05 PM
2

People pleaser then? ;) jk man. Most women are reluctant, even to have sex with me. I rip off the pants in half a time they’re still saying no I literally have to convince him to do it by saying I’m gonna be by your side forever. This tells me that you want it too much, which means you do not see her. That could be why they're reluctant. You're being too eager instead of letting the sexual tension and mutual lust do the work for you. Relax. And she will also relax. Experiment with amping tension…
/r/seduction28/02/24 01:54 PM
1

Good to know. Thank you! Might try out Snap then.
/r/seduction28/02/24 01:48 PM
4

The woman might care. Womanizer? No, more like a sociopath who do not care about the feelings of others. That's not good mate. A womanizer would at least make sure the woman feels good. The fact that you lie, tells me that you've still got one sticking point; one insecurity left that you could iron out. A challenge for you: Before you have sex, tell her that you're not looking for a relationship. Only a fun time because you love sex. Tell me how it went. :)
/r/seduction28/02/24 04:42 AM
2

Peeps in here say you're lying or being manipulative to get sex tho. Are you? If so, what do you think you have to do to simply be attractive without having to do all those things?
/r/seduction28/02/24 04:40 AM
1

I'm willing to bet that there are ways to fake snaps too, with pre-made pics.
/r/seduction28/02/24 04:20 AM
2

You care because you're living a lie. Moreover, if you're using other people's routines, then you're living some other dude's lie. Also - and I'm saying this as a "PUA" since 2005 - morality matters buddy.
/r/seduction28/02/24 04:14 AM
1

Mastery breeds confidence. This means that you already know how to seduce women, so now you just have to perform the steps that you already know, with confidence. Confidence is not about being flawless or never feeling nervous, but rather about embracing oneself fully, including imperfections, and having the courage to pursue what one desires without fear of rejection or failure because you already have mastery over what you're doing, i.e. you know what you're doing. The mindset makes itself by …
/r/seduction28/02/24 04:10 AM
2

I was just joking xD Ofc never plead with a woman. One text is enough. If she doesn't reply, get on with your life and meet new women. I didn't call her ten times, and pls never do that. I did have sex this weekend tho.
/r/seduction28/02/24 03:38 AM
2

I called her this weekend. After the tenth call she said, "Fine, Ok, I'll come over and have sex with you. But promise to never call me again, ok?" My game is flawless!
/r/seduction28/02/24 03:03 AM
3

I talked to her, and pleaded with her to give her number to me. Then I texted her like only about 14 times. I'm starting to feel that she's not into me... Do you think there's still a chance?
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:53 AM
1

Hey baby do you like spice? Mhm, that's what I thought! That's why I bought us tickets to Dune II. Gonna be so SPICY!!!! Yeah no I agree. It's pretty creepy tbh.
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:50 AM
1

Yeah that's pretty creepy dude. Stop with the callback humour. Get better at connecting with her irl. Then ask if she wants to hang out with you. If yes, you'll get her number or fb or ig anyway without even asking for it. If no, well, then you gotta work more on your game.
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:48 AM
2

Not even. Just pitch a meet. Texting is for pitching meetups not for getting to know her. You get to know her on the spot. If she likes you, she'll want to hang out with you. If she wants to hang out with you, then the number is an afterthought. So, don't even ask for a number. Ask her if she'd like to hang out with you sometime. Or tell her, "Hey, I think we'd have a lot of fun together. Wanna hang out sometime?" If yes, boom, number, insta, fb, whatever. if no, then... Well, I guess she doesn'…
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:46 AM
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Quite honestly, lambo... I think you're ... wrong. I don't think you can even guess how many girls I've banged just by being forward and focussing on escalating fast instead of using fancy routines or trying to be cute. (I'm never aggressive tho bcos I don't wanna go to jail.) With that said, I've been desperate enough times too, and when you get numbers while desperate, that's when you're blocked. Bcos being desperate ain't sexy.
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:41 AM
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This. And your vibe was off. I.e. there was no mutual attraction. You'll know when there's mutual attraction bcos they'll want to actually meet you. (Also, if you're any good, you'll sense the sexual tension between you, that look she gives you, that she really likes talking to you, etc. If it's like that, she'll say HELL YES to meet you.) So, here's the deal. Stop asking for numbers. Simply stop it. If you have to, give out your number instead - say, if she has to leave or you have to leave, te…
/r/seduction27/02/24 04:35 AM
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There is one great exception out there. Her name is MyNonLeatherLife. She's not on Reddit tho afaik. But on YouTube. Check her out.
/r/seduction23/02/24 03:05 AM
1

Northern Europe.
/r/seduction21/02/24 10:35 PM
15

This.
/r/seduction20/02/24 05:04 PM
1

Idk I'm 45 and dating a 20 yr atm. You tell me. Yes, older women will try to guilt you for it bcos they're jealous. What else is new?
/r/seduction17/02/24 09:58 PM
1

Are you delving into the good conversations, that just flow, because you have a connection? When you get those, do you ask her out?
/r/seduction16/02/24 02:28 AM
0

No, it's not weird. I've made out with several women I met on the street only minutes or seconds after meeting her. In broad daylight even. If I can do it, so can you. It's all about your confidence, and your vibe, and your energy, and what you visualize can happen, so that you come into that state of bliss where meeting women everywhere - and being heavily sexual with them - is completely normal. You can do this!
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:08 AM
1

That's good. You ruminate on it because you fucked up. Next time, don't fuck up. Instead be a man and take her number.
/r/seduction14/02/24 05:00 AM
2

This. And start small. Start with eye contact first. Then say cheers to people (also men) who pass by. This gets you into a social mood. Then start talking to more peeps and have fun with it. Bonus: This makes you look social and high value which is attractive on its own. Then sprinkle some flirting in, and soon enough you'll be on your way home with a hottie.
/r/seduction14/02/24 04:33 AM
2

After doing many thousands of approaches I can tell you first hand that other girls never care. Her friends will care, though, and perhaps want to join in the conversation. But if you can handle that, then it's really just a good thing. From the outside world, or from bystanders, it looks like you're just a very cool and social guy, which is very high value and thus attractive. Moreover, if you stand alone and brood in a corner, this is when women will write you off as a creepy loser. So, really…
/r/seduction14/02/24 04:30 AM
8

I know several super-attractive guys. They're normal and average in terms of income and personality but man the women those guys real in with zero effort! With that said, sure the more charismatic and confident of them reel in ever more women, but you'd be a fool if you think you could compete with one of these just by increasing points in charisma and confidence. Nuh-uh! Look, I've been with way more women than most, and I charm girls left and right when I go out alone, but - honestly - the mos…
/r/seduction08/02/24 11:26 PM
1

Don't bring them to expensive places. Have different things in mind, such as going for a walk in the park, hiking, hanging out playing some board game, or just meeting friends. Idk. I'm Norwegian, so we like to just go for a walk. Or even go cross-country skiing. Over here we call psychos like that "friskus". I like showing her secret places I know; places with weird architecture, or nice views, or places there could be cool animals such as rabbits or deer.
/r/seduction05/02/24 12:36 AM
8

You're overthinking. You can't really ruin anything with an acquaintance because you don't really know her. OTOH there is only upside to trying, meanwhile there are severe downsides to not trying. The upsides of trying: She will respect an honest try even if she rejects you. Even if she rejects you, she'll tell her friends that you've got confidence and balls, which is attractive to her friends. If she senses that you want to try, but then you don't, or you act disinterested, she might actually …
/r/seduction04/02/24 07:03 AM
1

I suppose the problem is that almost all the girls I've dated, I have met through social groups: they just arrived in my life; I didn't do anything and I didn't pick up anyone (with the exception of 1 or 2 of them) How is this a problem? Seems effortless to me. Just kindle whatever it is that increases the likelihood of you being social, and women will "just arrive" in your life. So many men seem set on this cold approach thing, not realizing that it's more about being genuine, having fun, and b…
/r/seduction03/02/24 09:05 PM
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There are three things you can do to increase sexual tension with any woman you speak to. shut up look into her eyes, and on her lips move a little closer All the best!
/r/seduction03/02/24 08:08 PM
6

I tried weed. Yes, it'll calm you down. And it'll make you more social in the moment. But prolonged use will also make you lethargic and unable to take control of your own life. Also, for me personally, I really love using my brain, and weed shuts down or mutes important brain functions. Worst of all, it can stay in the brain for a very long time. I'd try to fix this with personal development before using drugs. A strong mind can overcome anything. A weak one succumbs to shortcuts.
/r/seduction03/02/24 08:07 PM
14

Au contraire. Women love the allure of a serial killer! Haven't you seen all the love letters they receive and the secret application for visits that they constantly get in jail? Serial killers are hot. Just omit the actual killing part... With that said, I'd work on the parts that are making you depressed. I'd find a way to loosen up and get pressure off your back. I'd stop forcing smiles though. Only smile if you're actually amused or happy, or glad to see someone. That way you'll be genuine, …
/r/seduction03/02/24 08:02 PM
19

My rule of thumb is ask her once, then if she declines then play the ball into her court and leave it up to her to call you back. If she likes you, she will call you back. In the mean time meet other women. Send her a meme or a funny joke from time to time to keep things warm. Send her outcome independent yet endearing texts telling her that you something made you think about her, and that you hope she's having a good day. Things change over time. Suddenly she stops seeing that other guy, and re…
/r/seduction03/02/24 07:53 PM
9

Try reading this. Now you'll at least know how to vibe. :)
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:56 PM
1

Here's how I picture that you could go about it: Tutorial on how to use MATHS to become better at conversations. (1972)
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:52 PM
3

Looks like you answered your own question here. Stop trying to "solve" women. Instead learn how to vibe with them. Learn how to flirt and be a little illogical. Learn how to reach your inner caveman and just be a source of illogical pleasure for your environment. Read this article: Social Vibing. With that said, you wouldn't believe the amount of hot engineer women I meet, and they're all into me bcos I'm a nerd myself. I have an easier time talking to engineer chicks than other women. So, in es…
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:47 PM
2

Sorry, that's pretty weird. Creating another account just to contact someone? Bro!
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:42 PM
0

One man's soft rejection is another man's social event invite candidate.
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:41 PM
1

If she blocks you on Insta, you're doing something seriously wrong and deserve to be blocked. Or - well - could be she's got personal issues so there's also that, but usually it's the guy doing something dumb. Meanwhile, if you get a counter-offer for Insta, it's a golden opportunity to play the popular guy, or the event fixer. This means that you kinda forget about her on Insta (unless she texts you first), and then invite her next time you find (or arrange) a nice event to mass-invite peeps to…
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:40 PM
2

Accept her counter-offer. Send her this message: "Nice to meet you! Keep in touch. :)" Then go meet other women. Yes, that's right. Forget about her until she hits you up, or until you find an event to mass-invite SoMe contacts to. This is good bcos if she likes you, she'll initiate the convo. If she's shy or busy or whatever (she just wasn't that into you but didn't want to hard-reject you, or she wanted to let you go easy), then you're wasting your time. Meanwhile, when you do find something s…
/r/seduction31/01/24 11:32 PM
1

I tried listening to this chick, but she wouldn't even talk to me.
/r/seduction30/01/24 03:36 PM
2

Sexual pheromones has chemical influence on attraction. Scientific experiments has suggested that pheromones play a significant role in human interactions similar to animals. For instance in 1995, a study examined how women could detect men's DNA through their sense of smell, focusing on the MHC Gene, which influences immune response. The study involved 49 women and 44 men with various MHC Gene types. Men wore clean t-shirts for two nights, which were then smelled by women participants who evalu…
/r/seduction30/01/24 03:33 PM
2

IMO that's the wrong way to look upon it. If you get rejected for being up-front, that's a good thing, bcos you just saved a bunch of time. Yes, it feels tough. But it's a short sting, instead of keeping on and keeping on with that person who eventually friend zones you after keeping you frustrated for perhaps months on end. There's a saying: Make the hoe say no. You want that no, bcos it saves you time. But there are ofc ways of asking that are smoother than other. Tho in general it's good to s…
/r/seduction28/01/24 10:04 PM
4

It depends how you do it. It may be a strat for women bcos they're supposed to play the passive part in the dating game, but IMHO it's decidely a bad strat for a man, unless you need to ghost someone for disrespecting you. Also: Don't play hard to get if you're hard to like. Most men play "hard to get" due to insecurities. Instead, you should simply not chase. Especially if you act or seem arrogant. Simply not chasing will solve 99 percent of your problems. But you still have to be social, inclu…
/r/seduction28/01/24 10:02 PM
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It comes in several steps: Even if you don't look fit, as long as you train (hard) you create endorphins (happiness hormones), which will make you happier and more content, and thus far more attractive to everyone around you (tho if you already train a lot you might not notice a diff here)- this is probably the most immediate effect for beginners When you're up and running, you'll notice that you get a lot more energy, which is also great for work or other physical activities such as sports Pote…
/r/seduction28/01/24 09:48 PM
4

I have this exact problem. Case #1: I'm on tinder. Crickets. Meanwhile there are women who go out of their way to get in touch with me on places like Facebook, mostly women I'm not interested in tho. Or some of them are kinda hot I guess, but they live on another continent. Case #2: All these women who you meet briefly, and who will be into you for a night. And then you learn that they've already got kids, or they just want a little validation that their guy isn't giving to them, and so on. Or t…
/r/seduction28/01/24 02:28 PM
1

That's really great advice. Also if you don't tell him how he's supposed to reach those standards, then perhaps he'll always wonder how.
/r/seduction28/01/24 02:09 PM
0

I did that and it didn't work out. Now what do I do.
/r/seduction28/01/24 02:08 PM
1

The general advice is, don't try to be someone you're not. Being clingy is also generally seen as a bad trait, so I'd work on removing that. Being close to or intimate with someone is not the same as being clingy. Work on distinguishing the two. And work on how to become outcome dependent.
/r/seduction27/01/24 02:39 AM
2

The massive happiness I get from being liked by them quickly turns into frustration, when they leave the date early. Can you describe a few dates to us; the vibe on the date, what you did up until she left, and what you talked about before she left? Also, is there something you can pinpoint that might prompt a girl to leave early? ​ They always leave early. I don't know what it is - my mental illness? The fact that I have no identity and always mirror them? That I have no life? To this I would n…
/r/seduction07/01/24 09:43 PM
5

I'd just go, "Well of course you do, look at you!" Or you could throw some cocky/funny at her and go, "Oh you're seeing someone? Well, I think you need a second boyfriend. He can be the guy who makes you food and takes you out on nice dates, but I'm the guy you call when you just need to have sex all night long." Said tongue in cheek of course. If she's laughing you did it right. If she gets angry, thennnnnnn you failed xD So, the point of this is to make it man-to-woman. You kinda want a girl w…
/r/seduction03/01/24 12:05 AM
19

Assuming you're a sociable man who easily gets into conversations with hot girls, but strive to take it a bit further. So, when you talk to a girl, compliance test her first. You do this to physically check how keen she is. Test #1 Shake hands with her, but keep holding her hand a little longer. Loosen your grip, but don't let go completely. If she pulls away her hand early, it's a bad sign. But if she keeps holding your hand, or even cuddles it a bit... Then it's ON man. ^^ If you missed the ch…
/r/seduction02/01/24 07:16 PM
19

Was it gross when my boss put her hand on my knee when she complained about her husband? Yes. But as a man, I simply removed myself, while keeping the chat on work-related topics. The fact is, we're the stronger sex, so if she'd try anything beyond making an overt advance, she'd have the most to lose. So, unless you're a very weak man, there's just not the same kind of sexual threat from women, as men are to women. That's why I don't think it's unfair that women can get away with such behaviour.…
/r/seduction18/12/23 02:49 PM
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Here's a quick example of needy: Can I have your phone number? Do you want to go out with me? Would you like to go on a date with me? I'd love it if you came on a date with me. Won't you please dance with me. Pretty please, with sugar on top! A quick example of none-needy pitching: Joke invite: Hey, you like XYZ? I think that's pretty cool. You should ask me out one day lol. Was cool chatting. Hey, have you heard about XYZ? Yeah they're playing on Saturday. Just shoot me a text if you wanna go. …
/r/seduction16/12/23 09:51 PM
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I'm a pretty normal guy. I do have a super-good vibe though. If you're needy when saying that, then yes, you'll get slapped. If you're just having fun, she'll be having fun too. If that's the case, you can say literally anything, and it'll stick. A buddy of mine used to go up to women and say: "Hi, my name's Joey, and I have AIDS. Wanna make out?" More often than not they'd make out with him.
/r/seduction16/12/23 09:25 PM
2

That's a great observation! Thank you! I think a great exercise to do - for science - is to try to only make statements when you talk to women. You don't have to do this always, as that would be weird, but for an evening, I think everyone would learn a lot from trying to use statements only when speaking to chicks. Do it tongue in cheek. You're doing this for "science" after all, to challenge yourself a little. It's to see for yourself the change in social dynamics when you purely ask questions …
/r/seduction16/12/23 08:02 PM
1

Because it's fun. Mostly when I socialize or mingle, I'm saying only socially accepted things to the vast majority of people. But if I feel that the vibe is good, I might joke around and say really outrageous stuff just for shits and giggles. Most of the time they laugh with me. And if not, I just tell them, "Sorry, I was just joking." And if they still don't get it - which is super rare - I just excuse myself and go talk to someone else. It's really rare that I get a bad reaction, because most …
/r/seduction16/12/23 05:17 PM
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Girls love it when you're direct. I often tell women, "Hey, you look tired. I'd love to sleep with you." And then push my shoulder into her a little. They laugh every time. It's very, very, very dependent on vibe and frame tho. Say it with the wrong vibe, or coming from the wrong place (the place of need, instead of just having some light-hearted and outcome-independent fun), and you'll get rejected hard from this. Me? They love it every time I say this, because it comes from the right place.
/r/seduction16/12/23 05:13 PM
2

Cool, so they friend-zone you before you even get to date them? Or over text after the second date? In that case, there's not much you can do. But I'm willing to bet most of your problem lies you not pulling the trigger when you had the chance. Women who notice that a guy is afraid of pulling the trigger often get really disappointed, and that's when they friendzone you.
/r/seduction12/12/23 05:50 PM
2

Easy solution: Vote conservative. :)
/r/seduction12/12/23 02:38 PM
4

Have you tried just escalating after she friend zoned you? How did it go?
/r/seduction12/12/23 02:35 PM
1

So, this is a joke? What's funny about it?
/r/seduction08/12/23 06:36 PM
1

Why would parents call in about two consenting adults? Why would the school risk a lawsuit over an obviously wrongful termination, that is almost guaranteed to end in them having to pay heavy reparations? Look, perhaps you don't understand the culture where I live. Over here, what consenting adults do to each other on their spare time is their own damn business. Also, over here, when you're adult, (not sure how I'll make this clear to you in a way that makes sense but) then you're actually consi…
/r/seduction27/11/23 11:09 PM
3

Children? Are you nuts? That might be how it works in America. Over here in Europe it's just none of your business what consenting adults do on their spare time. Also, legal is legal pal. What are you gonna do about it? Give me disapproving looks? If you don't agree with the law, complain in front of Parliament.
/r/seduction25/11/23 05:42 PM
1

Why is that a problem? Dude. If she's legal, she's legal. So, if there's talk, there's talk. But... What's real is real. ;) Anyway, this is ages ago. She got married and has kids now. She still texts me from time to time tho but there's plenty of fish in the sea.
/r/seduction25/11/23 12:54 PM
1

It is clear to me that you need to live more. Dare more. I bet you look at the majestic mountain from below and think that it's just too steep. Better to stay in its shadow than to dare to conquer it. So what if you fail? At least you can go to Heaven, knowing that you tried, instead of meeting St. Peter full of regret.
/r/seduction25/11/23 01:59 AM
7

Just don't? What does he have to lose?
/r/seduction25/11/23 01:57 AM
9

Hi, I've been that teacher. Had a pupil that was so much fun, such a joy in class. And it was really obvious that she was flirting heavily with me. Yet... I couldn't do a thing about it, or risk losing my job. Nay, risk going to jail! The girl texted me the vacation after graduation. Maybe she was drunk. Maybe she wasn't. Either way, I was super flattered. Our conversation undulated. She would send me sexy songs, that portrayed what she was really thinking about me. She'd say that she was so coz…
/r/seduction25/11/23 01:54 AM
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Sounds like she's already fallen for you. If you keep meeting her, she'll either break it off with the dude, or she'll be unfaithful. The former is honest, the latter is dishonest. They're both heart-breaking though, but then most relationships don't last. I would wait for the next time she gives you a more or less subtle compliment and call her out on it. Then I'd simply state that, "Look, I like you too, but... I can't keep seeing you if you're with that guy. It's either me or him. Make a choi…
/r/seduction18/11/23 02:24 AM
2

This.
/r/seduction15/11/23 09:15 PM
2

A lot can happen in four years. Set is already warm, so you're kinda starting as awkward and blushing acquaintances. I'd say make the most of it. Even a girl who once rejected you might see you as far more mature and attractive four years later. I've seen this happen several times as I grew up. At first she was like eww, then years later she was like whoa / starry eyed. Same with me: The girl I used to think was grey and unattractive suddenly blossomed into a beautiful and sexy butterfly. I do t…
/r/seduction15/11/23 08:46 PM
1

15 matches a day? Wtf you must be Adonis or something. xD But yes, it has gotten harder. A lot harder.
/r/seduction15/11/23 05:18 PM
8

A date and a place is essential. A description is also nice. 💋 is totally needless, and draws way too much attention. Real players are discreet.
/r/seduction12/11/23 03:44 AM
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What you're seeing is platonic friendliness. You have to make it man-to-woman. With that said, you can get friendly interactions while still maintaining an alpha and man-to-woman interaction, because - guess what - women respect men who have confidence and knows how to talk to a woman. So, how do you learn that? Many ways, but in the end you always have to put it to the test. With that said, if this works for you, and you're getting laid, please keep doing it (and please let us know ^^ ).
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