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That is why when Rollo comes up with his own original thoughts you get the insane stupidity of telling men to engage in medical procedures instead of using dick discipline including only using a condom. Lol, I remember that. "Sterilize yourself because high-value men don't use condoms"...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 03:53 PM
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I just read through your linked comment. You made some great points IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 02:24 PM
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Have some compassion, jeez.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 11:12 PM
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Basically, OP accepts that evo-psych is correct about height No I don't. I accept that women do have a preference for men slightly taller than themselves, and that this is likely an evolved instinct. However, I absolutely do not accept the veracity of the just-so stories evolutionary psychologists love to throw around about how women prefer taller men because height signals dominance, protection, status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 09:59 PM
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I would argue that some evo-psych is fairly self-evident. An example would be how people’s attraction is heavily based on health and genetic fitness. However, I would agree that people go WAY too far with this stuff when it is not hard science. Yeh, I agree. If we're looking as something as simple as "body symmetry -> good health", then yeh, I have little issue with that. But anything more complex than that feels very dubious to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 08:21 PM
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Nobody is denying that evolution shaped our behavior. The issue is that there are severe methodological issues with evo-psych as a scientific discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 06:38 PM
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That was my last point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/25 04:07 PM
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Most people have very poor metacognition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 09:24 PM
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Really? Game of thrones - the show known for its moral nihilism and grim political infighting - is a classic "good verses evil" story?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:23 PM
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Can you not try to think a little big more deeply about this? Why was it a well-written story? What exactly drew you so strongly to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:18 PM
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I think that GoT was popular due to the mutli perspective timeline that appealed to bpth men and women. For instance, I didn't enjoy Rob's storyline. However, I loved Arya's and Jon's. I wethered through Ramsay to watch Sansa grow. It's constantly changing and developing. I'd argue that great art requires some form of moral component, or some form of nobility or heroism to aspire towards. Eg, LotR is full of noble characters, Hierarch Artanis from the Starcraft campaign is my role-model, Aloy fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 05:15 PM
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That's just another evo-psych just-so story.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:51 PM
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I think Susanna Viljanen on quora addresses this very well: Martin’s stories are basically rip-offs from real life history - namely the Wars of the Roses. It does not take too much imagination to realize Stark is York and Lannister is Lancaster, and a plethora of other recognizable real life characters is found there. Martin’s humans are basically the same as Tolkien’s Orcs - evil beyond redemption, amoral and devious, but can occassionally show courage, bravery, honour and other positive qualit…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 03:47 PM
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That's because of his intelligence and engineering skill - not his social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:02 PM
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He's literally got asperger's syndrome...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:21 PM
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Social fluency (charisma, composure, wit) is essential Elon Musk has entered the chat...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:21 PM
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It's not much of a self-own to say that I'm not the most attractive man alive lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 12:00 AM
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Even if that's true, so what? I remember I used to think that David Bowie was an amazing musician, but then after studying classical piano for years, his music just sounds meh compared to Chopin, Beethoven, Brahms, Bach, etc. And even among those composers, many of their pieces also sound meh to me after I heard Godowsky's passacaglia. I know I'm not the Godowsky's passacaglia of men, so if I don't want to be viewed as meh by a partner, then it makes perfect sense that I would value purity (ie, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 11:51 PM
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No clue - most straight men are horrendously bad at judging the attractiveness of other men. I feel like I often have the completely inverse view of what's attractive, since any visceral judgments of male attractiveness I have are purely aesthetic, and hence I regard softer and more feminine male faces (the ones you may see in a Renaissance painting) as the most attractive, whereas the more rugged and angular faces - which are supposedly the most attractive - just seem unaesthetic and ugly to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 09:02 PM
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If you can't see how the laws of logic I just stated imply the equivalence of those two statements, then you lack the cognitive capacity to have this conversation. I'm not wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 02:19 PM
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Here's what you need to learn: P implies Q = not P or Q not (P or Q) = not P and not Q (De Morgan's law) not (P and Q) = not P or not Q (De Morgan's law) not not P = P not (for all x: P) = there exists x: not P not (there exists x: P) = for all x: not P Once you do understand that, you'll be able to follow my reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:57 PM
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There was no logical error. You need to learn logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:20 PM
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Yes, though the ideal situation is to have a harem of bisexual women lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:21 PM
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I think the only solution is to be low in agreeableness and high in conscientiousness, from a personality pov. Since the low agreeableness will confer attraction, and then the high conscientiousness confers the pro-social behaviour needed to be a good partner. This is what Mikhaila Peterson went for, actually - her husband scored in the 0th percentile for compassion and extremely high for conscientiousness; so he's a nasty piece of work, but acts like a good husband out of a sense of duty, as op…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:10 PM
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I'm only bluepill because I don't believe in "game" and "holding frame" as solutions and if I tried those things, I'd be laughed out of the room with any women. That's such a mood lol. My underlying personality and cognitive style is just so far removed from the redpill archetype that I don't even bother trying, and instead I just be myself with the knowledge that it probably won't lead to much - if any - dating success.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 01:30 PM
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Yes, I am autistic. But more importantly, I have a master's degree in mathematics so can confirm that the way I'm dealing with these statements is completely correct. Google "contraposition".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:50 AM
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A few possibilities: Having high status in a domain which isn't closely tied to money, but which women still value (eg, being a good rugby player) Having near-psychopathic levels of charm and charisma Having a very masculine personality (low agreeableness and neuroticism) Dating fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:07 PM
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I like venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 04:57 PM
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The belief "there is no god" is a specific ontological truth claim. There is no claim regarding a “rule book” or that everything can be answered by scientific inquiry Notice my use of the word "typically".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:04 PM
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I think bluepill is basically "not-redpill" Then blackpill would be part of bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 01:58 PM
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thus they define anyone who isn't Red Pilled as being "blue pilled" This clearly isn't the definition used in this context, since otherwise blackpillers would be considered bluepillers. Definitions can morph beyond their original etymology. Your comment is like someone decrying the lack of useful religious ideology coming from atheism, or expecting a group made up of literally everyone who isn't Greek Orthodox to have a cohesive message they all agree on despite being made up of 1000 different r…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:09 AM
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None of the traits you listed are aspects of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:37 PM
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Used to be that even red pillers would acknowledge that “blue pill” is basically anything that isn’t red pill and, as such, has no singular “ideology.” So the blue pill subsumes the black pill? Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:57 PM
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Is it because of their personality, or because of their social-skills? Generally, personality only matters once a relationship has already commenced and you're trying to maintain it. Actually forming a relationship is all about charm, charisma, social intuition, and so on, which are distinct from personality (as described by the big five triats).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:55 PM
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Bluepill ideology is just “people are complicated and there’s no rule book that explains everyone.” That’s it. So basically the bluepill says nothing? Useful...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:53 PM
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If Ted Bundy managed to have hordes of women lusting after him at his trial, I'm not sure it's possible to be too morally deficient to succeed in dating as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:41 PM
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All the virtue signalling from women you see is an obvious corollary to the contrapositive of the bluepill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 09:17 PM
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Unsuccessful men are more likely to devalue things like being a father due to the Sour Grape effect - basically, if you want something but believe you can't attain it, you often devalue it so as to ameliorate the pain of having an unmet desire. Hence, lots of men who would normally highly value things like being a great husband end up saying things like "Marriage is garbage. I'd rather just play video games and see escorts". It's a psychological defense mechanism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:46 PM
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Yeh, he's wrong about things like height being correlated woth low empathy. Though there is a negative correlation between facial masculinity and affective empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 08:34 PM
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I'm just waiting for Elon to release a One Piece version of Ani.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:45 PM
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And now it's probably an LLM lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:02 PM
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It may be; but if not, I'm not judging. The guy wanted to play with boobs - big deal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:46 PM
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I've never really had an issue with being vulnerable, mainly cus caring about being masculine seems dumb to me (though I've also never had a girlfriend so... lol). Also, I resonate a lot with the Chopin quote: "It is dreadful when something weighs on your mind, not to have a soul to unburden yourself to. You know what I mean. I tell my piano the things I used to tell you." In terms of manipulation though, I'm autistic so have awful theory of mind, which makes me very susceptible to manipulation.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 01:06 AM
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Yundi Li (winner of the international Chopin competition) was arrested for hiring a sex worker. Anyone who thinks he lacks value is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:12 PM
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The vast majority of women aren't that sexually attracted to men with feminine faces though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 02:24 AM
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Asperger's, overly-feminine face, overly-feminine personality. Women tend to just feel very comfortable having me as a friend, but never show romantic interest. Also, I'm not into domme women - I like hyper-feminine women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:35 AM
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This is just sounding like you're in denial about not actually being that attractive. Outside of multi-millionaires, no man who's genuinely extremely attractive would view spending hundreds on an escort as the more financially prudent choice than simply finding a tinder hookup or curating a tonne of "friends with benefits".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:49 PM
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So getting a tinder hookup is more effort than a whole day's worth of work for a chad? Since that's what the price of an escort would roughly correspond to for a guy with a reasonably well-paying job in the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:41 PM
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Good lord, use your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:40 PM
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That "chad" must be extremely wealthy if he believes spending hundreds on an escort is a better option than just finding another tinder hookup lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:58 PM
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I will acknowledge that I may be a unique case, since I'm in my early 20s, physically fit and have a very feminine face and personality which is easy to bond with. I imagine if I were some fat middle-aged man, things would have gone differently...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:52 PM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:42 PM
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The 69 girl definitely wasn't an act lol. There was a massive release of vaginal juices when she came - you can't fake that. You may also be surprised to hear that most escorts aren't callous sociopaths, and experience emotional bonding from affectionate physical touch the same way anyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:34 PM
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So Yundi Li has no value? He won the international Chopin competition and got arrested for hiring an escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:08 PM
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I've done it many times. The experiences are usually overwhelmingly positive. Some highlights: Having a girl keep looking deep in my eyes, blushing and giggling while giving me a body-to-body massage Getting smothered by a Brazillian-bikini-model-tier girl's ass cheeks to the point where she was concerned if I could breathe Having a girl ask me how I got so good at giving oral when I made her cum from 69 and laughing when I told her I watch a lot of lesbian porn Activating a girl's maternal inst…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 10:07 PM
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I don't like the "pretend to care about you" line. It makes it sound like escorts are just money-hungry sociopaths instead of people who may derive a sense of satisfaction from helping people. Did my supervisor for my master's dissertation merely pretend to care about me when he spent a whole morning giving me feedback on my final draft? If not, then why would you assume that escorts are incapable of caring about the lonely men they're offering intimacy? But that aside, I agree that for men who …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 09:58 PM
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You can go even further is you want to enter the mathematical realm: There are infinitely many rational numbers within the real numbers, yet the rationals have Lebesgue measure zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 06:44 PM
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Yes, and hence pointing to absolute numbers isn't a valid argument. Instead one must do an analysis in relative terms, as has been done repeatedly. I'm not stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 04:23 PM
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There are literally billions of men in the world. Even if only 1% of men managed what you claimed, you'd still see a huge number of men managing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:29 PM
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The degree of loneliness felt is independent of the amount of social contact one actually has. The best predictor of frequent feelings of loneliness is neuroticism, which women on average score higher in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:56 PM
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There's huge overlap between the traits in men which women find attractive and low emotional empathy and aggression. Facial masculinity is negatively correlated with agreeableness; dominance, emotional-aloofness and charm are associated with psychopathy; etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 08:22 PM
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A lot of redpillers seem to have a bizarre dismissal of art. I guess it's too feminine for them? I had another redpiller call me a snob for saying that JS Bach is a better musician than Cardi B.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:31 PM
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Chopin wasn't a loser with women Eh, he kinda was though, let's be honest. His affection for Maria Wodzińska was clearly pretty one-sided, and then his relationship with George Sand was... interesting. That's not to takeaway from his obvious genius as a musician though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:42 PM
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So what? Chopin was no Wagner or anything of true substance. Chopin's f minor ballade is widely regarded as the greatest romantic masterpiece ever written. What's that supposed to mean? I was however renowned in my trade before age 25. Chopin composed his Op. 2 variations at the age of 17, and Schumann's response to it was "Hats off gentlemen, a genius." And, unlike Chopin, I'm still alive past age 39 and I ain't raising some random queer woman's bastard children. So people with tubercolusis are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:37 PM
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We aren't cavemen anymore and have areas of competition which aren't mere physical brutality. Chopin was the quintessential soft "nice guy" (high agreeableness and neuroticism), and if anyone considers him a loser... I have no words.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:36 AM
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Nah, sorry bro, but RFK is genuinely repugnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:46 PM
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I have a masters in mathematics and took a measure-theoretic martingale theory course. Please don't try to lecture me on probability.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:59 PM
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Correlation doesn't imply causation. It's the masculinity that makes a difference, and being muscular just often comes along with that, since men with masculine temperaments are more motivated to build muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:01 PM
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Just looking at the current democrat vs republican party, it's pretty clear which is more pro-autism. With the republicans, a man with aspergers (Elon Musk) was very prominent on the campaign trail and in government, and was clearly valued highly by Trump; and then they brought in a bunch of young programmers for DOGE. The one exception is the vile RFK, though he's actually a democrat. And meanwhile the democrats decided to bully Elon Musk for making a clumsy-but-earnest "my heart goes out to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:09 PM
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There are advantages to low conscientiousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:57 PM
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I think high openness might have harmed my mental health. I remember as a teenager I read Crime and Punishment shortly before developing depression (though I think the primary culprit there was exam stress), and then reading Schopenhauer and getting obsessed with the Kyrie Eleison from Bach's b minor mass definitely didn't help matters... I think I also have quite a vivid imagination, which isn't great for anxiety. I'd say it's overall a positive though. I feel like my life would be pretty empty…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 02:00 PM
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Wasn't there a common meme that loads of men get jacked in the hopes of being attractive to women, but end up just getting attention from gay men? I'm not saying this to cope, since I already exercise a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:09 AM
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I meant high neuroticism and agreeableness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:37 AM
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When women claim to like feminine men they give examples like Timothée Chalamet, who actually has an almost comically masculine face.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:33 AM
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Openness to experience - very high Extroversion - low Agreeableness - mixed (very high compassion, low politeness) Conscientiousness - low Neuroticism - high
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:31 AM
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Asperger's Very feminine face Very feminine big five personality traits Average height Introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 01:07 AM
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I guess there's the issue that far more women are considered highly attractive than men are, so a woman could, for example, still be considered highly attractive even if she had a prominent jawline, and that would likely make the male version of herself highly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:57 PM
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You mean like an attractive man marries a hyper-feminine (so very attractive) woman, and then they end up having a son with hyper-feminine features? Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:50 PM
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There's a post containing the words "My handsome, successful male cousins are getting married to women I perceive as "average"." in the title that's been up for a day. stfu.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:49 PM
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Not exactly lol. And then there's Schubert and Brahms who both frequented brothels, and Beethoven may well have died a virgin...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:53 AM
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What if a woman just wants a man who can play a convincing f minor ballade?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 11:47 PM
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Tbf loads of surgeons are charming dark-triad types, which is apparently highly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 05:07 PM
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It definitely lasted way longer than 50 years. That was the norm in basically every christian society afaik.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:57 PM
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You should be embarrassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:52 AM
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Is it not blindingly obvious? The well-tempered clavier contains immensely beautiful counterpoint, highly sophisticated harmony, a huge breadth and depth of emotion and is one of most remarkable intellectual and creative achievements of humanity. Meanwhile WAP is just an unusually vulgar rap song. There comes a point where being "open-minded" is nothing more than having a complete absence of aesthetic sensitivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 09:12 PM
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It's not closed-minded to think that the well-tempered clavier is superior to WAP. It's simply a statement of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:15 AM
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I'm just a pianist so can't comment much on opera, though I do know Leck mich im Arsch by Mozart, and that's just a whole other world compared to a Sabrina Carpenter song in terms of musical value (dense 6-voice counterpoint and all).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:01 PM
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From Bach, Brahms and Chopin to this... how society has fallen lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:40 PM
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No, that doesn't follow at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:05 PM
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Ah yeh, just reach Buddhist enlightenment... lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:21 PM
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That's not sufficient. There will always be a painful grieving process associated with the loss of something one values, and people are wired to fear pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:57 AM
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Yeh, a woman who made porn with men is an immediate no for me, and a woman who just had sex with lots of men is a major turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:41 PM
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I'm straight and I'd marry Jade Baker. I couldn't care less about a woman's past as long as it's only with other women. Lesbian sex is just hot and doesn't threaten me in the slightest. If another dude was involved though... nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 04:12 PM
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Logic is the process of deductively reasoning from a set of axioms. If you don't say what your initial set of axioms are, then saying something's "logical" is meaningless. The claim that every vector space has a basis is only logical if we accept the axiom of choice. Just saying that every vector space has a basis is logical is nonsensical. If you're going to claim monogamy is logical, you need to specify what you actually value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:50 PM
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Can't women try going for men who are too autistic/socially-inept to convincingly dissimulate?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 11:43 AM
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I have a job, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 10:17 AM
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Really? Some of the most famous mathematicians and composers are too esoteric to you? Alright. Anyway... if the only motivation for men to achieve anything is to get laid, why would a man compose a 40-minute long piece of music on his death-bed dying from tuberculosis, or why would a man write down his mathematical ideas for others to read in the event of his death?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:34 PM
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If you could go through life doing whatever you wanted and still be guaranteed a wife and reproduction of your genes, there would be no motivation to achieve anything. What was Pergolesi's motivation to compose Stabat Mater in the final weeks of his life then, or Galois' motivation to write down his ideas the night before his duel? Absurd statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:18 PM
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Jordan Peterson put it well regarding the subtext of a romantic rejection: "While you may be adequate as a friend, there is no reason why your genes should propagate into the next generation".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:50 PM
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I mean more the men who say things like "It's a numbers game bro. Just ask her out; worst she can say is 'no'".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:08 PM
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I feel like people often underestimate the detrimental impact rejection can have on a man's mental health. Any man with a susceptibility to depression should be exceedingly careful about when he chooses to adopt the possibility of rejection IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:48 PM
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Yes - it's called the central limit theorem. If you can't understand that, then that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:54 PM
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Wtf does "completed stats and probability mean"? You mean you finished a stats degree? Or you passed high-school probability theory? Or you took a measure-theoretic martingale theory course? I hope you don't mean you "completed" the entirety of probability theory, since you definitely (or rather, almost surely) did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 05:42 PM
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It is hereditary. There's no point in arguing about this. Just read a probability theory textbook.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:54 PM
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I dropped stats after the first year of my maths degree but my novice understanding is that polygenic traits like personality will approximate a normal distribution due to the central limit theorem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:33 PM
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It's simple: When people talk about personality, what they're usually referring to is social skills/cognitive empathy, which is distinct from the big five traits. The best description of it I know of is Simon Baron-Cohen's empathising-systematising theory. People who are systematisers are great at understanding rule-based systems like pure mathematics or Bach fugues, but struggle to understand the ill-defined and nebulous intuition-based social world. Conversely, people who are empathisers have …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:24 PM
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Is this meant to be a "gotcha"? Cus you won't find me defending the porn industry any time soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:48 PM
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You seem to have forgotten what your original argument was.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:49 PM
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Yeh, from what I understand it's specifically cognitive empathy which autistic people struggle with - not affective empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:43 PM
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I think Baron-Cohen just means there's a tradeoff between being good at and interested in understanding systems and being good at and interested in understanding people, and autistic people are hyper-proficient and hyper-interested in understanding systems and so are disabled in their ability to understand people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:28 PM
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What do you think sex is supposed to be? A way to show love and affection towards another person and form strong bonds. Not just a way to use someone's body for your pleasure and then discard them afterwards like a psychopath.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:09 PM
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With casual sex there is at least desire from both parties. If the desire is only for the other person's coropeal form then that's not any more humane. The prostitute just wants to pay rent and eat. Not necessarily true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:48 PM
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I don't think it's eugenic to refer to autism as a disability. I like Simon Baron-Cohen's perspective, where he views it as a difference which confers both strengths and disability. I'm autistic as well fwiw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:44 PM
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A big reason is that some men assume that sex with escorts is necessarily devoid of genuine emotional intimacy and connection, and believe that emotionless sex is inhumane.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:25 PM
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This is true. I remember in uni I knew an overweight autistic woman who said the longest she ever went in-between boyfriends was 2 weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 12:00 PM
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Brian Bi on quora put it well: So, who are the true incels, the ones who actually try to ask out women and never succeed, who have tried to improve themselves but simply cannot make themselves good enough to be able to get dates, and who are not fixated only on the most attractive women? They mostly fall into two categories. People who are so ugly that they could reasonably be considered deformed—and autistic people. Autistic men might try to approach women, but end up coming off as creepy or we…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:19 AM
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Yeh, I'm autistic and if it weren't for escorts being cheap and legal in the UK I'd almost certainly be an incel. I find that autism isn't that big of a disability when interacting with other men who just want to talk about video games or maths problems, but when it comes to women it's a death sentence lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:17 AM
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Math and CS autists are the most insufferable Wow, casual ableism towards autistic people. What a nice person you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:43 PM
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There's a strong relationship between degree level and income for STEM degrees - not for humanities degrees, which is what most women seem to go for. And math olympiads require exceptional intelligence, creativity and dedication to do well in, which is why they're held in such high esteem. Disciplines like sociology don't have the same sort of IQ-filter so even becoming a full-time academic within sociology isn't all that impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:25 PM
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I remember watching a talk at google by an IQ researcher who said that you need an IQ of at least 120 to pass linear algebra (a first-year course in a standard maths degree in the UK).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:16 PM
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Nah, sociology doesn't require a particularly high IQ to get a PhD in. The average math major probably has at least a 10 IQ point advantage over the average sociology PhD student.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:13 PM
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Tbf degrees aren't a great proxy for success. Eg a woman who got a good score in USAMO or the Putnam is far more impressive to me than a woman who got a PhD in sociology, and the former could easily end up more successful just by getting picked-up by a FANG company before she even finished undergrad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:08 PM
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This is moronic. You know full well there's a difference between having a visceral liking to something and begrudgingly accepting something due to the lack of any better alternative. I'm sure that if a woman was given the choice between being with a morbidly-obese pensioner or having the world destroyed by nuclear war she'd accept the pensioner, but that doesn't mean she's attracted to him. Learn to reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:35 PM
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Clinical psychologists have a duty of care and a responsibility to not cause undue distress when speaking to vulnerable groups in public. Telling a population of men with high rates of depression and suicidality that they're not good enough and that women are right to want nothing to do with them is a blatant breech of the ethical code which clinicians are expected to abide by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:24 PM
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If you're speaking to a vulnerable population with high rates of depression and suicidality - especially when you have the authority and duty of care of a clinical psychologist - you should not be saying "you're not good enough and people are right to want nothing to do with you" for obvious reasons. There's a reason he lost his license.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:52 PM
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Just because you'd be willing to drink swamp water as a last resort doesn't mean you actually like (or are attracted to) swamp water.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:20 AM
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I wasn't making any normative claims, though if I were to make one I'd say that if we want to avoid population collapse from the low birth-rates in the west then we either need polygyny or for women to drastically lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:43 AM
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If a university requires someone to get an A in maths to enroll, and a student gets rejected due to getting a B instead, then the full explanation for why he didn't get in was because he didn't get an A and because the university required an A. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:13 PM
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Many people don't like it for good reason, as it's hugely overly-simplistic. You obviously shouldn't tell someone in North Korea to "put their house in order before they criticize the world", as Peterson loves to say. Plus he said himself that blaming yourself for all of your problems can lead to depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:05 PM
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Me: Suppose for a contradiction that the square root of 2 is rational. You: Where's your source for that? You need peer-reviewed studies. This is garbage. *facepalm*
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:41 PM
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If I'm claiming someone believes something then posting a video of him saying that thing is clearly a source corroborating his believing that thing. You don't seem to grasp the concept of a proof by contradiction - the whole of my post was to prove that both of his beliefs can't be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:34 PM
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Well, we're obviously not meant to take it completely literally. For one it's a continuous distribution being used to describe something discrete.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:17 PM
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But if women's evaluation is dependent on the social-landscape then they aren't automatically correct, as Peterson claimed - a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:11 PM
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He says here that women find 4.5% of men "acceptably attractive": https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VVUPPwru6Tc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:54 PM
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He says it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A6HEAKc88g and here: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VVUPPwru6Tc And I'm not arguing about whether or not he's correct in his individual claims - merely that his beliefs are self-contradictory.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 02:48 PM
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That seems pretty obvious. Non-stop rejection will engender a Pavlovian animosity towards women, and non-stop acceptance will have the opposite effect. Fairly basic psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:52 AM
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Pretty much only psychopathic types want genuinely casual sex with no emotional intimacy. Maybe those are the types women tend to go after since they're often super charming? I dunno lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:03 PM
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Didn't German young women overwhelmingly vote for a far-left communist party while the AfD was super popular with young men? That's got to be an interesting dynamic lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:02 PM
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Do you feel comfy speaking openly about it with your guy friends? Gal friends? Family? I've occasionally mentioned it with some close friends, though - like most people - my sex life is the last thing I want to discuss with my family lol. Does it feel safe in terms of STI? Everything's protected so it's safe enough for me I guess. I've long felt that a big problem these days is people stuffing all emotional needs into the "sex bucket" and therefore not investing well in friendships etc. When you…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 11:18 AM
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No hypothetical is needed - that's basically what the UK is like (outside of things like brothels, sex work is legal; and £80 for half an hour is standard). And it definitely does drastically reduce my motivation for trying to date lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:02 PM
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Hans Asperger noted the exact opposite in his patients. Maybe it's different for the de novo mutation forms or autism, but the for the cases caused by many small-effect genes, they definitely aren't "ugly af". Also, Lana Rhoades is autistic, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:11 PM
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There is no "rise of autism". Autism has always existed to roughly the same degree (outside of places like Silicon Valley where there's assortative mating for autistic traits) - people are just better at spotting it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:28 PM
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You realize most women in abusive relationship dont know he was abusive in the past right? You realize most abusers don’t have facial tattoos, right? And are you expecting felon to reveal theyre felons? There's now a (lamentably) socially-accepted form of an abusive relationship in the form of "BDSM".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 01:53 PM
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That's definitely my experience as a male autist. I find that if I'm talking to another male, if we have some shared interest in something systematic like world of tanks, starcraft, programming or mathematics I'll usually fair pretty well in the conversation. Meanwhile with most women (or empathiser-types in general) it's far harder for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 04:33 PM
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I saw this nasty comment on this post: Ok, which is it? Half the time autistic men staunchly maintain that autism is just a difference in brain wiring (neurodivergence), and get really pissed at anyone who dares to suggest that it's actually a disability. The other half the time, when autistic men are socially rejected for acting like rude, selfish children who can't read a room, they want to cry "ableism"... de facto stating that autism IS in fact a disability, and implying that others rejectin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:31 PM
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Or the hyper-successful tech billionaires like Elon Musk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:15 PM
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Autists are masculine in the sense of having the extreme of the male proclivity to systematize (hence why so many of them work in STEM). I don't think they're more masculine in any other sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 01:13 PM
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That's definitely not the universal experience lol. I find 10 minutes of masking to be more draining than a 30-minute high-APM Starcraft game, and I'm still obviously socially inept when I do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 09:20 PM
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I'm just following Baron-Cohen's parlance, where he defines cognitive empathy merely as the ability to recognize and understand others' mental states. It doesn't matter if that recognition/understanding is borne out of intuition or rigorous analysis, though the former will amost always be more effective than the latter (if a rigorous and exhaustive system could be developed for cognitive empathy, I'm guessing it would be far more complex than the proof of the classification of finite simple grou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 07:21 PM
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I'm not convinced it's entirely down to environment. Autism is basically an extreme of the male tendency to systematize, so it would make sense that more males than females are born with an autistic brain. Autism has a very strong genetic component and can be detected in new-born babies (if a baby looks at a geometric pattern for far longer than at a human face, it's highly likely that the baby is autistic).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:09 PM
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This is a non-sequitur. Autistic women can find it easier to enter a relationship for reasons besides social skills while still being better at masking (which they on average are).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:04 PM
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Some are just wonderful human beings like Simon Baron-Cohen is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:22 PM
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I'm sure autistic women do experience similar forms of ableism. I was just talking about this specific case since it's an example I've seen repeatedly and have enough personal experience with to analyze in detail. I didn't mean to be dismissive of autistic women's struggles - sorry if it came off that way. The only thing I'd disagree with is referring to autism as a disorder. I agree with Simon Baron-Cohen that autism is just a different type of brain which has unique strengths and weaknesses, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:52 PM
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Well yeh; men will fuck anything after all lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:36 PM
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I think the big issue is that autistic people are hyper-systematizers so try to understand everything through the lens of an abstract system. Unfortunately though, relationships can't be systematized so any system they learn will always be at best highly inaccurate. Reminds me of a Quora answer to a question like "how do people who spend all their time studying math and physics learn about sex?" where the guy answered with "axiomatically, of course!" and started giving definitions and theorems l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:34 PM
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You have poor reading comprehension if you think that's what I was arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:18 PM
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They do have the problem of being too naive to easily spot predators though. That can be a MAJOR problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 10:15 PM
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Where the hell did I ever claim I wanted that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:57 PM
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No, personality and social skills are largely independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:57 PM
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I think it's fair for a lot of autistic men to give up trying to navigate the social world, given how confusing and stressful they find it and how likely they are to be discriminated against for their disability (not good for mental health). But yeh, that understandable aversion to the social world can definitely morph into unhealthy sentiments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:56 PM
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I never argued that personality can't be a basis of liking someone - just that personality is barely relevant in the initial stages of dating, or at least is dwarfed by social skills in significance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:51 PM
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Big booty latina.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 07:03 PM
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Have you never heard of Chopin? One of the greatest artists of all time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:01 PM
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I really hate this conformist bs. Let men become whatever their personality beckons them towards. Being a sensitive Chopin-lover is just as valid as being a soldier.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 10:32 PM
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I think a distinction needs to be made between personality and social skills. Personality is scientifically understood through the big five (openness to experience, extroversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness and neuroticism). Social skills are one's capacity to read social situations and enact an appropriate response. Personality is generally very hard to change. Other than increasing openness by one standard deviation by taking psychedelics, or ramping up neuroticism by experiencing somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:52 PM
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I really hate how people constantly conflate personality with social skills. Getting into a relationship is far more about social skills than personality (hence why charming narcissists and psychopaths find forming relationships easy). Personality only becomes super relevant once the relationship has already been formed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:16 PM
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Ignore him - he's nasty. Loads of good people have never been in a relationship (eg autistic men). You're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 01:47 PM
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I don't know about most men but I only watch lesbian or solo female. I just have no desire to see a naked man. Seems a little gay ngl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 03:25 PM
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Wtf? Autism has nothing to do with being cold or being bad to people. You just sound like a prick tbh, independent of whether or not you're autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:06 PM
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I never said anything about verifiability. I think when Baron-Cohen talks about systematising he really means rigorous deductive reasoning within a rule-based environment. In terms of philosophy, although both analytic and continental philosophers may develop "systems", it would mostly be the analytic philosophers whom Baron-Cohen would term systematisers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:24 AM
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I don't think sociology or psychology are examples of systematic subjects in this context. They're not rigorous enough and don't follow rigid rules like pure mathematics or programming do (you can't give epsilon-delta proofs of a sociological concept or study the representation theory of friendships like you can with Lie algebras lol). And Baron-Cohen was referring to cognitive empathy when talking about empathising here. I'm also more (emotionally) empathetic than I'd like so agree with you abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:48 AM
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As a diagnosed autistic man: every autistic woman I've ever met was a systematiser.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:18 AM
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I wasn't talking about the "D" designation in my last comment. Psychologists really are thick lmao (don't care if that's mean - if you want to be prejudicial then I'll be prejudicial back).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:58 PM
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In my post I was talking just about being sexually attractive, and not necessarily about how good of a romantic partner an autistic man would be. Though speaking personally, I have a hard time trusting empathisers since they're usually skilled at dissimulation and manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:25 PM
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Baron-Cohen spoke at length about the brain differences in autism and it in no way invalidates his theory. It really is remarkable hubris to be so confident in discrediting one of the leading autism researchers because of your master's degree. I also got a first in my master's and wrote a thesis on low-dimensional topology, though you won't see me boldly dismissing Grigori Perelman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:13 PM
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I'm a real autist. I'm odd, awkward and have an IQ in the 99.9th percentile. So...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:33 PM
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Women can have masculine traits. I have a fairly feminine personality (high agreeableness and neuroticism) despite being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:31 PM
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Well, if you put it like that, then yeh. But being good at systematising can also produce The art of fugue by JS Bach, the Linux kernel and Poincaré duality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:07 PM
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what do you mean by "despite us knowing it's a neurological disorder"? Simon Baron-Cohen strongly disagrees with it being referred to as a disorder. No offence, but I treat most of psychology with a lot of incredulity, especially psychology which is wrought with value-judgments which are more ideological than scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:30 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:48 PM
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When I say empathising I'm referring to cognitive empathy (the ability to intuit what someone else is thinking and feeling) as opposed to affective empathy (the ability to emotionally resonate with an emotional state which was already identified in someone else). Autistic people tend to have poor cognitive empathy and in-tact or superior affective empathy. I'm autistic as well for what it's worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:46 PM
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Simon Baron-Cohen studies autism and supports the theory. And although I don't know if Jordan Peterson researched autism, he supports the theory as well (I don't care if he made a fool of himself debating Zizek or whatnot; he has actual expertise in psychology).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:43 PM
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All the autistic women I've known have been systematisers. Your second paragraph makes some sense to me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:38 PM
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I am slightly autistic lol. But there's usually a trade-off between having good social skills and being good at systematising (eg mathematics, programming, music theory).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:35 PM
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Umm, that sounds more like sociopathy than aspergers. Autistic people generally have in-tact affective empathy and have no issue with caring about other people or forming emotional bonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:33 PM
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I answered that in my post - it's the extreme form of the masculine preference for systematising over empathising.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:26 PM
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Yeh, I call BS on that. Baron-Cohen's theory makes far too much sense, and the characterization of autism as a disorder when it confers advantages in systematization is nothing more than prejudice masquerading as science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:24 PM
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As an autistic person who has a deep love for pure mathematics and who was surrounded by an unusually high number of other autistic people during my maths degree, I feel very confident in saying that Simon Baron-Cohen is correct. And in my post I argued that if the relationship between sexually dimorphic traits and attractiveness were to be applicable in this case, then a man's social skills would be inversely correlated with a man's attractiveness. Being adept at romance and flirting is differe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:19 PM
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Just google "male suicide rate after divorce". There are tonnes of articles supporting the claim. And loneliness is a subjective feeling which is independent of the amount of social interaction one actually experiences. A man in an unhappy marriage is likely far lonelier than a single guy who spends every evening alone practicing guitar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:47 PM
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Modern airliners are perfectly capable of flying with only one engine. Meanwhile the suicide rate for men skyrockets post-divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:16 PM
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Go and listen to Chris Bumstead talk about how 90%+ of his followers are men and how uncomfortable it is to constantly have grown men call him "daddy". Being physically unfit makes you less intelligent, so as someone who loves studying pure mathematics, I naturally care a great deal about being fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:05 PM
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Nah, I'm in very good physical shape. I'm just not delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:16 PM
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Those would be women that are in the fitness scene themselves who are attracted to the status of being muscular as opposed to the the physical form in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:15 PM
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Nah. You need to be tall and have broad shoulders as well. The incel to gymcel pipeline is real lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:12 PM
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Well, it's pretty different to women's fitness channels which are flooded with thirsty men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:15 AM
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https://youtu.be/-BF51_IyHqI?si=nyFScv3kmjpC7lT2
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:01 AM
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Yeh, I think not being fat and emaciated (so in good physical health) makes a big difference, though loads of men seem to think that getting jacked is an elixir for becoming attractive to women, when in reality--ask anyone in the bodybuilding scene--they'll just end up getting loads of attention from other men and have a lot of women assume they're gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:51 AM
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I thought it's common knowledge that being super muscular only attracts gay men lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:36 AM
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I think cognitive empathy is actually far higher in women since high cognitive empathy is related to being more interested in people than things and the average woman is more interested in people than 85% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:25 AM
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Yes. On average they have higher levels of cognitive and affective empathy. It's not a massive difference though (something like 60-40 for trait agreeableness).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 07:14 PM
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https://youtu.be/-BF51_IyHqI?si=7Ig3W8MComAnW-0Q kinda true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:48 PM
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TL;DR. The only thing men need to remember IMO is the saying "holding onto anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:52 PM
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My analysis was correct. If you can't comprehend it then I suggest you study logic. This video seems decent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjv0CCzHok
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:56 PM
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No, the statement he made was "(men are not getting drafted) or (women should get drafted)"="women should get drafted" which is not equivalent to "((men should get drafted) and (women should get drafted)) or ((men shouldn't get drafted) and (women shouldn't get drafted))" which would be the statement of support for gender equality in the draft. Eg, maybe men shouldn't get drafted but women should. Then the first statement would be true but the second would be false.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 11:40 PM
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You posed an "if-then" statement - ie, "P implies Q" which is logically equivalent to "not P or Q". Since P is true (men are forced to stay and fight) the only way for the statment you made to be true would be for Q to be true; ie, women should be forced to fight, get pregnant etc. Logic 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:11 PM
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No; nobody should have their rights stripped from them and be forced to die as cattle in war (or be forced to be pregnant or whatever). This is why I have no sympathy for Zelensky whatsoever - I'm not sure what Ukrainian men are even fighting for if their country seems to care so little about freedom and liberty.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 04:44 PM
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I wouldn't call autism an undesirable trait. It's a great trait if you want to work in STEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:43 PM
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My understanding is that charm and charisma are vitally important for attracting women, both of which require well-developed social skills which autistic people struggle with. Autistic people are also at the hyper-masculine end of the interest in things vs interest in people spectrum which makes holding conversations with the typical woman who prefers to talk about people far more challenging. Eg I remember Elon Musk saying that one of his dates was one long monologue on electric cars and most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:51 PM
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There are many intellectuals who can see the level of intellect that is required doesn’t determine a humans worthiness Agreed. nor does it really even matter when it comes to making money There's a reason for why the world's richest person has an IQ well above 160. Do you know how many people watched that fight last night? And do you know how many of them don’t even knows or cares who Galileo is? lol If people would rather descend to the lowest rungs of vulgarity and watch people beat eachother …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:38 AM
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You might consider that those women love what they do and aren’t being forced to participate in an extraordinarily well-paying job that also provides their family with lots of financial stability. I doubt their family will appreciate having to worry about and look after them when they develop dementia and poor mental health from CTE. Looking after ourselves is a moral imperative IMO, since otherwise we're burdening others to deal with our poor constitution. Learning to grow your ability to witne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 02:02 PM
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Oh, I didn't know he was a rapist. Now I'm glad Jake Paul beat him up lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:48 PM
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It's a strong correlate of psychopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:16 PM
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MILFs have bigger boobies
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:30 PM
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And get a better thesaurus lol. I hate to break it to you, but the reality is that I just have a large vocabulary due to having a high IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 10:15 AM
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Actually I added it after you commented xd
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 12:09 AM
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I don't think it's fair to ask that about Bach given he was a devout Lutheran
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 10:29 PM
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Let's try to keep the decorum please. But my argument was that the sort of psychopathic behaviour that's exhibited in boxing matches is contemptible regardless of how attractive some women may find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:54 PM
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I'm a straight man so no lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:38 PM
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I know. All psychopaths are disagreeable though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 06:11 PM
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I definitely don't think aggression just means willingness to confront opposition (I'd say that's more courage). And it's pretty obvious that most of them aren't particularly aggressive, though the example I feel most confident in using is Glenn Gould who made a radio programme about how he detests competitive sport and clearly had the hyper-empathy which many autistic people struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 05:31 PM
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Having been exposed to the work of genuine geniuses through things like studying pure mathematics or playing classical piano I can confidently say that the level of intellect and creativity required to box is laughable compared to that of folks like Galois and Gauss. And then cooperation with regards to a "sport" which has knocking your opponent out unconscious as a win condition... L.O.L.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:54 PM
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Umm, I'm unfortunately inordinately high in affective empathy (wish I weren't cus it causes a lot of suffering) and I've given up on finding a relationship lol (though there is the confounding variable that I'm mildly autistic).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:47 PM
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Yes. I can't watch boxing without feeling physically ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:42 PM
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Based is-ought distinction take xd
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:33 PM
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Not true. Psychopaths are excitement-seeking, callous and competitive so naturally love fighting. Tests for psychopathy or low agreeableness often include questions like "I enjoy a good fight".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:32 PM
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I agree that men (and women) should be able to stand up for themselves (with aggression if need be); I just don't think that aggression is an intrinsically admirable trait and it certainly doesn't make men more worthy or some BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:56 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:52 PM
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Have a listen to Kissin's recording of Busoni's transcription of Bach's Chaconne and I think you'll agree with me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 02:41 PM
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Shame. There's nothing I care more about than the unfalsifiable claims of a stranger on the internet who knows next to nothing about me, whom I'll probably never meet in person and about whom I know next to nothing. I'm truly devastated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 10:34 PM
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Lawyers are farily intelligent tbf. Just nowhere hear the brightest and they're not at all creative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 06:16 PM
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Jeez, I hope for the sake of your own mental health that you aren't equally unkind and judgmental towards yourself...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 01:08 PM
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LOL, the difference in pickiness between men and women is really quite something. I feel like the algorithm for most men is: if (woman is not fat): if (woman is fairly psychologically healthy): relationship or sex else: possible sex else: reject (reddit removed my indents, rip)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 03:09 PM
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So men who are high in neuroticism are basically screwed? These standards are brutal lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:37 PM
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Not just better. A lot of the time the 145 IQ person will be able to solve problems which the 115 IQ people will never manage to solve no matter how much time they have. eg I saw a talk at google with a guy saying that you need an IQ of at least 120 to understand linear algebra.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 11:29 AM
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Well, exceptional intelligence gave humanity the microprocessor, the Chopin ballades, Gothic cathedrals, the classification of finite simple groups, etc etc etc...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:11 AM
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It almost feels dysgenic for it not to be attractive. Like, he's a top 0.001% man intellectually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:48 PM
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Even given his exceptional status within pure mathematics? That's rough lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 09:11 PM
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Ah. Well, a ring is already an algebraic structure so I think adding "algebraic" is redundant. I see your point tho lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:45 PM
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What type of ring theory isn't algebraic? xd
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:39 PM
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Yeh, I imagine that if he weren't autistic and decided to pursue quantitative finance instead of academia he'd be pretty attractive lol - the qualities which would then confer attractiveness wouldn't be intrinsic to high intelligence though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:01 PM
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LOL, if one of the greatest living mathematicians isn't that attractive, then high IQ definitely doesn't increase attractiveness to any significant degree 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:48 PM
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Yeh, the crucial part seems to be competency in areas which women actually give a damn about LOL. There definitely aren't many women who care a great deal about how good a man is at Riemannian geometry vs being a good lawyer, banker or athlete... Out of curiosity, how attractive would you say this guy is? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuECLebqtU
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 01:27 PM
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Well you seem like a lovely compassionate person. Keep it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 08:29 PM
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You're imposing a social interaction on her so it is an imposition of will. And there are loads of men who appear unconfrontational at first but subsequently don't take no for an answer. That's what women could be preparing for when approached by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:28 PM
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Oh boy, a Nietzsche fan. Let me guess, you skimmed through "beyond good and evil" and now view yourself as some sort of ubermensch. Yawn. I'm a man btw...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:04 PM
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That's quite the leap in logic. Meet people online or through friends or in walking clubs or whatnot. Don't impose your will on a woman who just wants to go about her day in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:29 PM
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Maybe just prioritize other people's wellbeing over catering to your hedonistic whims?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:21 PM
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The main issue I have is that it just seems incredibly selfish. Tonnes of women get intimidated by being approached by a random man, and putting your wants over the possibility of causing discomfort to someone completely innocent just seems abhorrent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:17 PM
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She definitely seems abnormally low in compassion, I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:10 PM
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You should look up the opinions the great pianist Glenn Gould had on competitive sport lmao. Intelligent and compassionate people do tend to be more averse to rugby (plus any intelligent rugby players probably won't be that way for much longer after all the head trauma lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:02 PM
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I think a big factor is that many men see how much of an uphill battle getting a girlfriend would be and so just give up hope and trying in an effort to find psychological peace (hope can be painful); this would then exacerbate the preexisting asymmetry by bringing many men from having a low probability of finding a partner to having no chance. Talking from personal experience, I genuinely believe that getting a PhD in pure mathematics would be easier than getting a girlfriend (I've already prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:19 PM
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Women only care about intelligence insofar as it has the potential to confer status and resources. Women would find a 120 IQ law student far more attractive than a 160 IQ phd student in algebraic topology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:43 PM
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Given the nature of this thread, I'd assume we're referring more to high IQ when talking about nerds; and men outnumber women like 5:1 for IQs over 145 if I remember correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:25 PM
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The number of women who would be turned-on by a man's command of homological algebra is so tiny as to be effectively zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:23 PM
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Refuse to go for nerd girls? My classes are like 90% male lol - there aren't very many nerd girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:08 PM
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I'm not sure about that lol. I'm a master's student in pure mathematics and my class-mates and I (IQs probably all over 140) do just as well with women as the red pill would predict lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:48 PM
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So cringe. Please stop trying to gatekeep the definition of what a man is based on what women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 04:24 PM
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I never said I agreed with it; just speculated on how women may perceive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 11:42 AM
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If one considers psychopathy to be abnormal and unhealthy, then according to science.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:00 AM
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Because it's dangerous and emblematic of the most debased aspects of human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:31 AM
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Umm, actually I was sardonically mocking you...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:27 AM
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There's also a very strong relationship between psychopathy and sexual sadism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:20 AM
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Woah, looks like Henri Poincaré has entered the chat! Brilliant observation!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:18 AM
1

Probably because they interpret the immediate power the man has over their lives as him being generally powerful and dominant which they find arousing. I find the thought of doing it vile; but women are attracted to dark-triad men, so what can you do...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:16 AM
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They don't hate nice guys for being fake; they hate nice guys because they aren't attracted to agreeable men, and will then commit the no true Scotsman fallacy to uphold the pretense that they don't spurn nice and kind men in favour of dark-triad-laden men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:06 AM
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Bluepill is to relationships what naive set theory is to mathematics Redpill is to relationships what Russell's paradox is to mathematics Purplepill is to relationships what ZFC is to mathematics
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:16 PM
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