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double standardsCheesy_toe/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 02:42 PM
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It's very intentional. When women feel that their only role in this world is to be a housewife, feminists have always labeled it internalised misogyny. You'd naturally assume that when men feel shunned by society for opening up that it would be internalised misandry or misandry, but nope, they want to call it toxic masculinity. The reason for this is that they believe men have control over their lives whereas women don't (hyperagency vs hypoagency). It has also been pointed out on this subreddit…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/23 05:27 PM
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My main issue is how blurred the definition of incel has become since it's now synonymous with misogynist. To the point that some people view male virgins as misogynists and genuinely think that men who bring up their societal or legal issues are incels. Society has always insulted male virgins in some way; neckbeard, virgin living in mum's basement, incel, etc., it's not confusing to see why some men don't want to be in that category. The people over at r/foreveralone are not hateful and they v…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/23 01:33 PM
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Similarly, not all these laws are written or recommended by men or men alone. Most of us know that women are legally incapable of committing rape in the UK. People say that these laws were written by conservative men. I'm no conservative but this is complete bullshit. Tony Blair was prime minister when sexual offences were last reviewed in 2003. The review involved a mix of men and women and was led by three women. Membership of the Sex Offences Review Betty Moxon OBE (Home Office) Chair Su McLe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/23 01:09 PM
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You know how women say doctors don't take their concerns seriously? I've had similar experiences at my GP so I feel like it's just a waste of time going in unless it's serious. I think it's a result of lazy, overworked or incompetent doctors. Each surgery has a catchment area in the UK and I fall under one so it's not like I can register elsewhere unless I move houses.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/23 12:24 PM
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I wanted to say the same thing. I know that not all people on the mensrights subreddit are tradcons but there’s quite a few of them that are and they ruin the sub for me. They talk about men losing half their shit in divorces, which is not wrong but then they tell men to marry traditional women and provide for them. Feminists aren’t great but tradcons aren’t any better.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/23 06:16 PM
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Women's issues are never ending so I see it as cop out
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/23 02:31 AM
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It wasn't a false accusation by the victim but by social services. My girlfriend's sister had a piece of tissue shoved up her vagina by another girl at school. Doctors found out around 5 months later once they did a scan after recurring UTI's and constantly smelling bad. Social services got involved and investigated her father and brother because they suspected she was being sexually abused by one of them. Nothing happened beyond their investigation but I imagine that was scary for them. They ne…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/23 11:52 AM
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No problem :)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/23 09:35 PM
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I believe this is intentional. Men's mental health and "toxic masculinity" are the only issues they acknowledge and say they want to help fix. They do not want to acknowledge, bring attention to or actually fix the root causes responsible for mental health. For example, when discussing that male rape victims aren't taken seriously, they'll say female victims aren't either. I agree that many victims do not recieve justice but that is besides the point. It ignores non-gender neutral legislations o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/04/23 01:27 PM
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I could have written it better in hindsight but I meant that as a separate example, I just couldn’t recall the name of the guy who directed Dark Fate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/23 12:13 AM
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I’m glad r/saltierthancrait exists. I feel like the Star Wars subreddit has people from Disney on the mod team. The same goes for most subreddits for any franchise or TV show which is frustrating. Elizabeth Banks, the director of Terminator DF and a few others have said that men who dislike their movies, hate women. It’s completely asinine. The content they are producing are just garbage.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/23 08:36 PM
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I agree. With stuff like being made to penetrate, it seems to be the only data we have. Sadly we have nothing similar in the UK as CSEW aren't interested in covering 'sexual activity without consent'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/23 10:31 PM
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Thanks, I'll have a read through some of the links you posted there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/23 05:38 PM
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They give off a lot of confirmation bias vibes too. They've made up the worldview they want to believe so they manipulate data into fitting their narrative and pass it off as fact. Your spot on though, reminds of the that technical jargon video on YouTube. It's a technique that works on a lot of people. You can even make a long wall of text on Reddit and use clever sounding words, people assume you know what you're talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/23 03:06 PM
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Checked their forum expecting a huge number of members given how often they're discussed. A mere 20k registered users which, assuming those members are all male, are 0.0005% of the male population.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/23 02:44 PM
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It really sucks but they've been doing this for a while. It is a zero-sum game to them so they do not care. Here's an article regarding how domestic violence organisations have hidden male victims of domestic abuse to acquire funding for their organisations: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/72839546.pdf The article is from 2011 but this goes back a further few decades as they mention in the article. They talk about how DV groups and feminists have employed a "strategy of containment": The strateg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/23 02:23 PM
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It’s really frustrating how prevalent the myth about men not seeking help is. Clearly there is something wrong since 80% of their assessments were incorrect. Also, great point by Dr Barry. Therapy isn’t always going to magically make your problems go away. The root of the issue needs to be discussed and addressed. People are willing to acknowledge that male mental health is a problem but are hesitant or deny the issues that cause them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/04/23 05:56 PM
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There’s got to some reason behind it. I know women only organisations have had their funding pulled by some local authorities. Unless I’m mistaken, this doesn’t mean that each local authority has to fund gender neutral organisations but it that it should be based on need in their area. I wonder if categorising men as victims of “violence against women and girls” is related to fudging statistics so that women only organisations continue receiving funding. Could explain why there still seems to be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/23 03:59 PM
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It’s refreshing to see a report that doesn’t victim blame for once
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/04/23 05:58 PM
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Toxic masculinity is often used to victim blame. For example, the wildly held belief that toxic masculinity is responsible for male suicide due to bottling up emotions. There are studies which show that the vast majority of suicidal men did seek help but either didn’t get it or didn’t find it useful. If we simply say it’s due to toxic masculinity, nothing will get solved. Men bottle up their emotions because of how others react to it. It’s something that they usually learn from a young age. I he…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/23 07:01 PM
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It’s ruined a lot of TV/Movie discussion subreddits for me. If you’ve ever seen an analysis by The Take on YouTube you’ll know what I mean.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/03/23 12:39 AM
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Excellent post, I’ve not thought of it that way before. They employ a lot of tactics that abusers themselves use like gaslighting and manipulation. The reality they’ve painted is often easy to expose because it’s based on lies and omissions. The bad thing is that most men are oblivious to it or don’t question it. Similar to how some religions work.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/23 03:51 PM
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I find the whole “women did it themselves” idea silly. They have had government funding as well as media campaigns to help them. How did they get those funds? Domestic violence groups have historically framed DV as a women’s issue. They still do it in the UK by associating male victims of DV with “violence against women and girls”.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/23 03:41 PM
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Men are raised to not hit women so they’ll be hesitant even if it’s self defence and know that they are more likely to get in trouble with the law. So I’d argue that there is a power imbalance. Feminists only see the world in black and white, men (the patriarchy) are the oppressors and women are the victims. Talking about Love Island and domestic abuse, the subreddit still pays tribute to Caroline Flack on the death of her anniversary. For those who don’t know, she was receiving flack in the med…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/23 04:06 PM
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The good ones ones only seem to pop up when their ideology is called out, otherwise they seem to stay pretty silent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 07:10 PM
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It's sad that they go there to push their ideas on men seeking help than to actually offer any help. Thank you for creating that subreddit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/23 03:52 PM
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I wanted to become one whilst studying at uni but changed my mind. The salary is around £30k which may sound good at first but you will be working outside your paid hours, marking work, preparing lessons, etc. so you're really working between 10-12 hours a day and possibly on weekends as well. So for me, the salary wasn't enough. Plus I noticed that my male secondary school teachers had cameras in their rooms, which I later assumed was to protect themselves from accusations. I'd rather not put m…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/23 03:44 PM
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When men receive sexism, it’s their “toxic masculine gender role” that oppresses them - in other words, they oppress themselves. But when women receive sexism, they are just simply victims to misogyny. This goes back to what you wrote earlier; the belief that any discrimination men face is actually a result of misogyny. If they began using terms like misandry or internalised-misandry then they cannot claim the men’s issues root from misogyny. They seem adamant on denying misandry exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/02/23 03:39 PM
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It’s not but a lot of people genuinely believe it isn’t as bad, some will go as far to say he actually enjoyed it. It also helps obfuscate actual statistics. Domestic violence groups did a similar thing with perpetrators of domestic abuse to obtain government funding for their organisations. Women’s Aid recently petitioned to maintain government funding of women only organisations but it failed to gain traction.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/23 12:52 PM
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Thanks. It's a big reason I'm grateful that this community exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 08:22 PM
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One of the women I spoke to, Cailey, had been repeatedly raped by an older woman for years, starting before she turned 16. She spoke to a close friend of hers who worked in the police force, and who advised her against reporting her rape. She told Cailey: “This is a minefield. If it was a man we might be able to get somewhere but prosecution is unlikely because it’s a woman – you’re talking about 1% prosecution rates or something.” This is seriously appalling
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 08:19 PM
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Yes, it is due to both sides that we're in this mess. Conservatives don't take female perpetrators seriously and feminists like to pretend female perpetrators are extremely uncommon so they're irrelevant.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 05:41 PM
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Also, we should remember that there are also female victims of women who are not counted as rape under the law. You are absolutely right. I had planned to include this fact but forgot to do so once I began typing everything up.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 05:34 PM
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I see that UK rape legislations have been discussed on this subreddit before, I just wanted to make a post that goes more in depth and covers everything that I could think of.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/23 02:49 PM
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I would say I'm only left wing based it's on paper values but mainstream left is another story so I don't fit in. That doesn't mean I'm now a right winger. I often see tradcons over on mensrights advocating for traditional gender roles, not men. I get that it's a neutral sub but it makes me glad that this sub exists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/23 01:39 PM
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The CDC stats for “made to penetrate” is what initially made me question the statistics in the UK. What’s crazy is that women’s rights groups fought against gender neutral rape laws in India and I think Israel as well.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/23 12:01 AM
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Yes. Where I live women cannot be guilty of rape other than in exceptionally rare circumstances. From what I can tell, this only happens when they played a significant role in planning and aiding a man to commit rape. Naturally, this means that 99% of rapists are men according to The Office for National Statistics.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 05:40 PM
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I did my bachelor's degree in chemistry and in my final year I had to do an additional unrelated module of my choice. None of them interested me so I chose health and wellbeing at random. It was taught by psychology lecturers who based a lot of their ideas from feminist theories. Most of my class thought it was a load of bull to be fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/23 05:32 PM
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